1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. One of the big stories in the NFL today, 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: The Browns could be signing Jadeveon Clowney right now. He's 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: in for another visit and everybody's all a gog all, 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: look at this. You put him opposite Miles Garrett. You're 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: thinking super Bowl. And while I like a lot of 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: things the Browns did, I just keep thinking of Jadeveon 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Clowney kind of like I kind of like I think 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: about Sammy Watkins. Is that boy he came into the 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: league with such great publicity, you know, the big hit 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: in the outback ball, and he's been good throughout his career. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: But I look at him and I go, I don't 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: know that he'd really be on the market like this. 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: If he was that much sought after, someone would give 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: him a lot of money. And while he's been okay, 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't see him as the big mover and shaker like, 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: oh now suddenly super Bowl Browns if they signed Jadeveon Clowney. 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Literally one hit wonder right right when I and we 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: think of one hit wonders, I out of music. But 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: you know it's like if you went back to the 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Bowl game where he had the ferocious hit against what 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: was the little Michigan running back. That was the Michigan 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: wasn't that boy? Car's last last game was that That 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: was the team that lost to app State and lost 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: to Oregon. Anyway, I believe Taylor thelong. I'll played him 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: most of the game. There's just one play where he 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: got through. He's he's one of these uber talented guys. 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: Obviously the knee injury early on in Houston hurt him, 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: but he's just you know, I mean, look, he priced 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: himself out of that free agent market last year, and 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, got a flyer what would tend to see 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: and I'd be interesting to see what the actual dollars are. 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: But he's gonna go around and chase, you know, short term, 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: as much money as he can possibly get. And he's 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: forever going to be a talent that's probably forever going 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: to have a job, but never live up to the 37 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: building because he's not that guy. You know, He's just 38 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: he's not. So Look, Melvin Ingram was a better player 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: at South Carolina. Everybody in South Carolina knows it. He 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: was a better talent at South Carolina, and Melvin Ingram's 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: better player, and Melvin Ingram's a better pro than Jedevion Cloudy. 42 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: That's why it makes more money. It's a case of 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: where once a guy does something that's so memorable, you 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: think that that's the guy you're getting, you know, like 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: like for everybody thought, oh, Cam Newton's gonna be great 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: with the Patriots last year. And look at this video 47 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: of Cam Newton from twenty fourteen, right, look at this 48 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: play Cam Newton about Oh if this is the Cam 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Newton the Patriots are getting. And I'm like, this is 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: six years ago. This is six years ago, Like, I 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: haven't time, he can't throw football. Look at this guy, no, no, 52 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. And that's a hard thing. Like 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: that's it's a hard thing for people to understand. Like 54 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: Cam Newton was available for a minimum contract for a reason, right, 55 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Cam Newton signed a backup quarterback and not even a 56 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: good backup quarterback contract. Marcus Mariota's contract last year was 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: better than Cam Newton's contract this year as a backup quarterback. 58 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that Marcus Mariota at his peak 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: whenever that was in the NFL. When the Titans went 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: to the playoffs was as good as Cam Newton. But again, 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: like you said, that was six years ago. Cam Newton's 62 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: had two shoulder surgeries, He's had, you know, multiple leg surgeries. 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: He's not the same athlete, although still a very good athlete. 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing is, like Kim n can't throw. 65 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: He threw for less than one hundred yards? Was it 66 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: three times? Four times? Five times? Last year? Like it 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: was crazy. He can't throw a football. And I don't 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: think that. I don't think the Patriots think that running 69 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: it back with Cam Newton is the is the plan. 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: At some point they're gonna have to get a starting 71 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: quarterback and we'll see whether it's the draft or it's 72 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Garoppolo or what their plan is. But yeah, and I 73 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: think Jadevion Clowny is much much the same, you know. 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: So we'll see that. You know, the Browns want to 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: meet with him, we'll see if they sign him. But 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: what does that mean? And for the Browns, like they 77 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: are in the kind of luxury item sort of deal, 78 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: like if you can get Jadeveon Clowney on the cheap 79 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: and he wants to come and reinvigorate his career alongside 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: a nasty defensive line. God bless him. But you know 81 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: there was a reason that the Seahawks never bit at 82 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: the twenty Remember he was doing the twenty million, No 83 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: eighteen million or seventeen million, he was doing. Here's the 84 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: real estate analogy, and this will happen to people this summer. 85 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: They'll chase the market. Right. The market in many areas 86 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: is way way up. Right, So you're like, wait, my 87 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: neighbor just sold his house for five hundred thousand dollars, Like, 88 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Like, I'm gonna listen to my 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: house for five hundred and fifty thousand dollars this summer 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: because his way up. And meanwhile, like, well that guy 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: has like a pool and a casita and he's got 92 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: it's all redone and it's perfect. And you're like, all right, 93 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: well my house is a little bit bigger square footage 94 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: and you could we have a pool and it's fine. 95 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: It's like, look, the market's insane. And then you end 96 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: up overpricing your house. Everybody passes on it, it sits 97 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: on the market, you readjust the price, and now you 98 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: end up getting way less than you. Meanwhile, your wife 99 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: ends up going out and going like well, we're gonna 100 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: sell our house for five hundred fifty thousand dollars. I 101 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: can buy as seven or fifty thousand dollars house because 102 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna have this much profit. And you get locked 103 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: in and you get a contingency buy and now you'll 104 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: just take whatever for your house. You end up selling 105 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: them for way less. That's what happens with jibe at 106 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: Debbie Clowney. He chased the market last year. He got 107 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: way less than he thought, probably could have gotten more originally, 108 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: and now you know, the pickings are pretty slim. This 109 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: is gonna It's interesting how much JJ Watt got early, 110 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: because I think the guys that sign now are gonna 111 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: get far less. And then once the draft comes, anybody 112 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: who's left in the free agent market is gonna get 113 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: pennies because everybody gets excited about their draft picks and things. 114 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: That's the answer youth inexpense after the first round, they're 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: all inexpensive anyway. They'd rather take their chance with an 116 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: unproven guy they can coach than a proven guy that 117 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: wants too much money for far too long. Jason Smith, 118 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb been for Dan and the dan Atts today 119 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: Twitter at how about a Fresca Doug at Gottlieb show. 120 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: All right, now you mentioned the draft, and you mentioned 121 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots, and here they are sitting at fifteen and 122 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: trying to get quarterbacks. We talk quarterbacks with Albert Brier 123 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. I got I got a great 124 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: NFL draft hot take for you. Ready, go, here's here's 125 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: you forget about top four. You are going to see 126 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks go one through five in the NFL Draft when 127 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: it's all said and done. It's gonna be like a 128 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: boy band. Trevor Zach all right, you're gonna get Mac, 129 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: then you're gonna get Justin, and then you're gonna get Trade. 130 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: Get the boy band is gonna go one through five 131 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. Right Now, here's why. 132 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: When you look at the draft right now, the first 133 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: four pen the Falcons are sitting at number four, going, hey, 134 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: we're open for business. And granted, trying to get the 135 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: Bengals to trade their pick is going to be a 136 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: big deal, but teams are going to be desperate enough 137 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: to get up there because all the teams that need quarterbacks, 138 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: we know who the top four going to be in 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: some order, right, you know, the Jaguar is gonna take 140 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, the Jets are gonna take Zach Wilson most likely, 141 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: the Niners are gonna take Mac Jones thanks to Chris 142 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: Simms in his relationship with Kyle Shanahan. Then the Falcons 143 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: will either hey, we can draft Matt Ryan's successor, or 144 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: more likely move out because someone will want to move up. 145 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: The Broncos and really need a quarterback, they most likely 146 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: will try to move up because nine to four is 147 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: not that big a deal, and then you'll see it 148 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: team like the Patriots get up to five for Trey Lance. 149 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Because it's almost like you have to look at the 150 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: draft as if, all right, the first pick of the 151 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: draft is really going to be at five, right, because 152 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: though those quarterbacks are gonna go one through four in 153 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: some order. So now you're talking about the first pick 154 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: of the draft really being at five, and there's one 155 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: quarterback there that everybody seems to generally love, and that's 156 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. Anybody else you are trying to look for 157 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: value in the second round or third round. So when 158 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: you think of the draft that way, it's almost like 159 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: if you're picking fifth, you have the first pick in 160 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: the draft because there's a guy there that people are 161 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: gonna want to get. And do you really think that 162 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: Trey Lance is gonna go much past that? He's not, 163 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: And so a team that's gonna want to get him 164 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: is gonna move up to five and get it. So 165 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna see those quarterbacks go one through five, and 166 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: then you're gonna see the skill position guys, Davante Smith's bottle, 167 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: all those guys. Then they'll all start coming off the board. 168 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: It's fascinating, and it's because the magic to drafting the 169 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: quarterback is not just in the idea of their talent 170 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: and solving your problems. The magic is because of the 171 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: money they make. Now the second and third and fourth year, 172 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: you can build an entire team around them, right, so 173 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: that even if they're not the guy, you can go 174 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: and play the game again. You can go and pick 175 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: up a free agent, try and rehabilitate a guy like Okay, 176 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: here's a question, Colts or Bears. Who has been better 177 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: the last three years? What's a better run organization? What's 178 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: a better team? I would say right now it's the Colts, 179 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: I would say for the past three years, because the 180 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: Bears have been to the playoffs. I would say the 181 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Bears right now, I'd rather be the Colts. But I 182 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: would say the Bears have been what if I told you, Okay, 183 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: so did the Mitchell Trubisky experiment work. It worked to 184 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: an extent where they were able to succeed and get 185 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. But this is it works better on 186 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't know sports. Would you stop, just stop? 187 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: You're supposed to answer the classic sports guy, the Bears 188 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: suck an idiot. No, no, no no, got a great one 189 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: for you. Do it for you? No, look, they have 190 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: the same hey wait wait, they had the same record. 191 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: They boat in the playoffs. I actually I don't think 192 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: the Colts have won their division. I know the Bears 193 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: have won their division once. Okay and oh yeah, by 194 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: the way, the Colts have won a playoff game the Bears, 195 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: if not for the double doink, we'll go to a 196 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: playoff game. They're they're the same. And if you want 197 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: to sit there and go like, well, you know, the 198 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: Cults are better off now because they have Carson Wentz. 199 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Like maybe I think Carson Wentz could still be really, 200 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: really good, but he was really bad last year. Granted 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: the head Now he's got a great offensive line, I 202 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: think a better offensive coach. I get it, But like 203 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: it's really interesting that and why did it happen? Because 204 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: mitche Tchubisky doesn't make any money, so you can go 205 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: and go out and trade for Khalil Mack and you 206 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: got a superstar. And they've been able to they have 207 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: really good pieces on defense because the quarterback doesn't make 208 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: much money. Now he went any good and now he's 209 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: a backup, and again you start to figure out what 210 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: the next step is. But if the object is to 211 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: have be a good football team, you've got to have 212 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: a whole team. You're not gonna do it with a 213 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: guy like even the Cowboys. The Cowboys have I don't 214 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: think Dak's worth the money that he's paid, but he's 215 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: a good quarterback, like Mark Cooper is a good wide 216 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: receiver zego. It's a good running back. The offensive line 217 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: is good. It's not as good as the reputation. They've 218 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: been banged up, but it's still very good. Why aren't 219 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: they any good? Well? Offensive line issues at times, right, 220 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: and oh yeah, by the way, the defense stinks. And 221 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: as you know, no matter how don't care about how 222 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: he points. The offense is one. They didn't score early 223 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: in games last year. Like they're like, well, they didn't 224 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: win because Dak was hurt. They weren't winning when Dak 225 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: was healthy. Just so aware. But the point is they 226 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: don't have an overall good football team. They have really 227 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: good pieces, and you win having a really good football team. 228 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: That's generally like, why are the Niners awesome in the 229 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? The quarterbacks Jimmy Garoppol, who's okay? They they 230 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: drafted well, they drafted high. Garoppolo got hurt the year before, 231 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: so they got Nick Bosa at two was the best 232 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: player in the Super Bowl. I mean, that's that's the truth. 233 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: But they had a stud stellar roster that can carry you, 234 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: and they will coached. So I think that the common 235 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: misconception is that it's just about the quarterback. The quarterback 236 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: if the quarterback is good and young and solid and 237 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: works awesome, but it also allows you to pay a 238 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: guy eight or nine million, whereas the teams with the 239 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: superstar or even the lesser those they're paying thirty forty million. 240 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: All that money gets spread around and you build a 241 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: better roster. That's why I think you have a chance 242 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: to be right. I don't think it'll be the top five, 243 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: but you have a chance to be very very right 244 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: on this one. I've thought that same thought, but you 245 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: can get the patent on it. It doesn't matter because 246 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: Ryan pay stinks and I can't believe we're bringing back 247 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and we gotta go out on social media 248 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: and tell him he's our number one guy. We had 249 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: to have this big press conference and this big whole tournament, 250 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: like like we're a rock band going on tour, going 251 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's our guy. This stinks. I hate football? Was that? 252 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: Was that better? That was very good? Was that better? 253 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: Are you good at what you do? That's very good? 254 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: That's Jason Smith, by the way, thank you. You can 255 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: listen to him and Mike Harmon every evening right here 256 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: on VoxForge Radio, hundreds of affiliate stationwide. You know, I've 257 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: been working. I've had a seal impression for a long time. 258 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of where iahoax and in New Yorker. 259 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: That's what's going on. You know. The reason I think 260 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: is because it's kind of like the philosophy of if 261 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: you pick thirty third in the NFL draft, right you 262 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: have that first pick of the second round, that's really valuable, 263 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: right because after the dust settles, it's Boy, I can't 264 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: believe Player X is there. I we didn't know that 265 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: he would still be there. Boy, moving up to the 266 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: top of the second round really isn't that big a deal. 267 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: So hey, let's get up there and get that second. Meanwhile, 268 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: it's the thirty third overall pick. The same thing I 269 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: think applies here is that, boy, here's the fifth pick. 270 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: But when you have five quarterbacks, people want where else 271 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: are you going to get a guy? Right? Like, if 272 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: you if you're Denver right now, if you're in New England, 273 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? You know, unless unless you 274 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: you make a move up to get one of these guys. 275 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: You're talking about a season where okay, we're just gonna 276 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: kind of throw guys out there and see if we 277 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: can get by and trying to win this year. And 278 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: that's a really tough message to sell and to say 279 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: that this is where we're all ready to go. And 280 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: all the things we tried to do well, we couldn't 281 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: really accomplish them. So we're gonna go with Cam Newton, 282 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna draft a guy in the third 283 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: round and try to bring them along, or if you're 284 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: the Broncos, it's, well, well, Drew Luck, maybe we'll be 285 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: good that we'll give him another chance, and come on, 286 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: you can't do that. When when we get closer to 287 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: the draft, the the intensity of the heightening expectations always 288 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: take over to where a guy could be a pretty 289 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: good player now, but by the time you get to 290 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: the draft, he's someone everybody has to have. And the 291 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are rising, right, you know. I mean it's of 292 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: all the positions, you know, we don't see the teams saying, hey, 293 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: we we gotta we gotta get DeVante Smith. I mean, 294 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: this guy's a Heisman Trophy winners. Ah, maybe he goes 295 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: at fifteen or fourteen. The quarterbacks of the Risers. And 296 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to that, you get to that that 297 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: phonetic feeding frenzy. When you get to the draft, teams 298 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: are going to move up Denver I expect to move 299 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: up any day and say, okay, the Falcons are open 300 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: for business. We're the only team that needs a quarterback. 301 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: We're not moving up that much. This is what we're 302 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna do. And then it's going to be a creative 303 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: team like well, the you know, the Bengals trade with 304 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Sure, I'm sure they will do something like that. 305 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: Or you know that's where Bill Belichick knows, I have 306 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: to go up and get my guy. Or there's a 307 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: couple of the teams that could say, all right, we 308 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: gotta go up because Trey Lance we didn't think he'd 309 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: be there, or we thought maybe he'd be there, but 310 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: now there's no way because the first four picks are 311 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: going to be quarterbacks. Now, if you want him, you 312 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: got to get up that high to get him. Would 313 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: the fifteen Patriots, I look, Denver has to have a quarterback, 314 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, I know some people there have been told 315 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: some of that they're they're done with the Drew Lock thing. 316 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: There's lots of there's just lots of little things and 317 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: he's not that good that they're they're done with the 318 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: Drew Lock things. So the question is outside of Denver, 319 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: I guess would New England, like New England has always 320 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: been rumored to like, Oh man, I heard they really 321 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: want Lamar Jackson. Oh man, I really heard they want 322 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Remember remember Lamar Jackson was like New England they that 323 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: I would I think Justin Fields feels like their type 324 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of guy. If if Cam Newton's gonna be the starter 325 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: to start the year, right, and then they're like, hey, 326 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: how about we get somebody who plays like him Newton 327 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: only can actually throw a football. Then we do the 328 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: Justin Justin Fields thing eventually. So yeah, I'm with you. 329 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: I think there's a chance. But I also think there's 330 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: a chance that just kind of organically, guys start going like, 331 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: am I'm not gonna do that. We'll take Penny Sewell, 332 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: we'll take um, what's what's the X Men character who 333 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: played tight end for Florida? Oh, Kyle Pits. Yeah, Kyle Pits. 334 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: He's not a real him being, by the way's an 335 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: X Men Like you're not six six, two hundred and 336 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: forty pounds running a four four Like, come on, he's 337 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: at the what's the X Men? Caved with, what's that 338 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: mansion they live in? Called? Like, it's the Professor Xavier 339 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: School for Gifted Youngsters. That's that's actually I believe that's 340 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: where he went to high school. Okay, I believe that's 341 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: where Kyle Pits went to high school. Like he's an 342 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: X Men character, Like there's no other explanation for some 343 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: of these guys. Um, So I think there's also the 344 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: chance that, like in the old days, like a guy 345 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: actually falls to falls to ten, right, falls to fifteen, 346 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: and you know you gobble him up man, Like, look, 347 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers fell too at twenty four. Like that just 348 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, crazy that that It wasn't just that San 349 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Francisco misevaluated and took and took Alex Smith, a good 350 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: quarterback ahead of one of the or maybe the best 351 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: I've ever seen play the position. It's that oney. Two 352 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: other teams also said like, yeah, we're good, like really okay. 353 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know if Aaron Rodgers would be Aaron 354 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: Rodgers if he didn't sit and continue to refine his 355 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: game in Green Bay, which is reasonable thought. But I 356 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: don't think what you're saying is crazy. I just don't 357 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: think it'll have because it hasn't happened yet. I like 358 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: your X Men take with Kyle Pitts. I dig that. 359 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of like that he would 360 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: be a really great superhero sure, totally greatly. Yes, yeah 361 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: see he's He's where I think the Cowboys need to 362 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: do it, because right we had that report at the 363 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: end of last week that Jerry Jones was was loving 364 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts and was all in on him, and and 365 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 1: the reports came out, Oh, but the Cowboys, their defense 366 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: is terrible, and you gotta draft to you know, you 367 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: gotta get Patrick Sartan the second or something like that. 368 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, if you take Kyle Pitts, you turn 369 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: that offense into an unstoppable offense. You have playmakers everywhere, right, 370 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: you have Dak coming back, You have Michael Gallup, you 371 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: have Marie Cooper, you go by the way, Ceedee Lamb 372 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: had a terrific rookie year. You know, your offensive line, 373 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: as long as they're healthy, they'll be really good. As 374 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: Eekiel Elliott. You have playmakers everywhere and a guy that 375 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: that how are you going to stop him in the 376 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: middle of the field. The guy he could be the 377 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: next Tony Gonzalez or Antonio Gates. I would much rather 378 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: have that guy and say good luck stopping our offense 379 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, we got a really good you know, 380 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: we got a really good back, right, and that's going 381 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: to help our defense. Now, you could coach up the 382 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: defense and draft later, and all you gotta do is 383 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: bring the defense up from bottom five to you know, 384 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: maybe you know, like like eighteen or nineteenth best in 385 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: the National Footballing Do you have an offense like that, 386 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: you would be absolutely unstoppable. There's nobody that could match 387 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: the playmakers the Cowboys would have. So you said, you know, 388 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: dropping down at ten, if Kyle Pitts is there at ten, 389 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: absolutely Cowboys should go get him. Yeah, I mean, did 390 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: you know they're their offensive line was ranked at twenty 391 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: seventh worst in the league. I know they had injury, 392 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: They're they're not the same as as a reputation, So 393 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean that that's the big thing. UMC Collins is 394 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: still very good, Martin Tyron Smith, Tyrn's just not like 395 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 1: three years ago he was the best in the sport. 396 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: But this is a little bit like that. He's not 397 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: where Cam Newton is. But they're not the same. I 398 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: agree that like the Kyle Pits to be hard, that 399 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: would be the most Dallas Cowboys pick. Ever, Right, we 400 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: need defense, so we'll go get the most freaky tight 401 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: end week and five. Right, we need defense, so let's go. 402 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: You know, like this would be two years in a 403 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: row and oh yeah, but like there wasn't anything bad 404 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: about their offense talent wise last year, Right, tell me 405 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: something bad about their their offense. I mean, yeah, the 406 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: running backs overpaid. Okay, the wide receivers overpaid. Okay, they 407 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: have plenty of talent, they still weren't great. Like remember 408 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: they had to come back against the Falcons to pull 409 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: off a miracle victory. And the Falcons stunk last year, 410 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: especially in the defensive side of the ball, and the 411 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't score early. So I understand what you're saying. 412 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: But and here's the other part. If you're going to 413 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: rebuild their defense, and I know that most of free 414 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: agent money has been spent on the defense, I understand 415 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: they've changed schemes to one that fits the personnel better. 416 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: But you know, you tell me a team that's won 417 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl without a top ten defense, they don't exist. 418 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 419 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am 420 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio WAP. Clearly, 421 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: over the weekend in the NBA, there was one big 422 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: marquee game that everybody wants to break down and it's 423 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: either the greatest thing in the world and it's really 424 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: awful for the other team. But we saw the Lakers 425 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: No Superstars beat the Nets one and a half Superstars 426 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: with Kyrie Irving getting tossed, and suddenly things are looking 427 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: okay for LA. Right. We got the news late last 428 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: night that Anthony Davis is going to come back in 429 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: two weeks, and Lebron it's probably three weeks away. So 430 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: here are the Lakers. They're kind of holding steady in 431 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: the West, and while they're dropping slowly, it's not sinking 432 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: like a stone like they could have been. They're sitting 433 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: in the fifth spot right now, it's still a couple 434 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: of games ahead of the Blazers. Doug, are you buying 435 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: that things are going to be okay now for LA, 436 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: now that hey, they've been able to win a few 437 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: games even without both them, and then hey, a couple 438 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: of weeks, three weeks, they should be back at full strength. 439 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: What is they'll be okaming? They will avoid the playing 440 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: games from seven through ten in the first round of 441 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yes, I think they Yes, that's if that's 442 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: your definition of okay. Does that mean they'll be the 443 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: favorite to come out of the West. I think they'll 444 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: be the favorite because I think it'll be easy to go, Like, 445 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: my default is to bet on Lebron. James but I 446 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis and two superstars combining. But I think 447 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: it's a it's a dangerous bet to take it. It 448 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: feels like a sucker bet, Like, look, this is the 449 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: real this is the difference a team the East where 450 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: he played and the West, and no one like it's comical. 451 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: The Lebron sycophants who won't admit that the East was 452 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: an easy path, like, oh, well, look what Lebron did 453 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: that one year when he had nobody around him and 454 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: Booby Gibson like he was great. He had what twenty 455 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: five straight points against the Pistons. But like, there's all 456 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: kinds of outlier one year wonders out of the East, right, 457 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: Alan Iverson did it a year. The Orlando Magic with 458 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: Dwight Howard did it for a year, Like you gotta 459 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: go through it. There's always why because the East has 460 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: been bad. And then when he's in Miami, he took 461 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: the best player from the Raptors, and the best player 462 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: from the Heat, the best player from the Calves who 463 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: were the best team in the East, and then eventually 464 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: they took the second or third best player and the 465 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: best shooter in the league from the Celtics and they 466 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: formed a superteam and of course they dominated the East 467 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: that was not only never really that good, but also 468 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: they pulled out the chairs from other teams that work good. 469 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Now you're in the West and I don't know if 470 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: Utah is purely better or if it's tough matchup for them. 471 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, Denver can't really defend although man, they scored 472 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: what they when I gave up about thirty one to 473 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: three run yesterday to the Celtics and they scored eight 474 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. But I think they're a 475 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: tough matchup. I think Utah is a tough matchup. I 476 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: think Portland, if they're healthy, is a tough matchup. I 477 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: think what the Lakers run the risk of is the 478 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: attrition of the West. It doesn't mean that Portland can 479 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: beat him four times. But if Portland beats him twice 480 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: two or three times, right, three times, and it goes 481 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: to seven. Let's say they beat him twice, he goes six, 482 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: he goes six, six, and Alison, you face Utah in 483 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: the finals, you're worn down and I don't know what. 484 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: No one knows what. Anthony Davis is going to look like. 485 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: He was out for a long time. He's not the 486 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: fitness guy that Lebron is, right, and as tremendous as 487 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: Lebron is, he's every year, he's not going to be 488 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: the same guy capable of carrying you. And we don't 489 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: know what Dennis Shrewder looks like in a big time 490 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: playoff matchup. Do I think on paper they should be 491 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: really good and they should be great defensively with Andre Drummond. Absolutely, 492 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: But again that's on paper, and I wonder about the 493 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: offense and how it looks with so many pieces that 494 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: haven't played that much together and haven't played together for 495 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: a couple of months. See, I look at the flip 496 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: side of this and say, as long as they can 497 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: stay in sixth, right, that's what I think Laker fans 498 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: and do Look, hey, if we can stay in six 499 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: and avoid that one game where hey, we happen to 500 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: play against Stephan he scores fifty five and we lose 501 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: and we're out, you know you want to avoid that. 502 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: But if you can stay in six, I don't know 503 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: that it matters where you finish in the Western Conference 504 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: because one through six they're all gonna be really good. 505 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: It matters a lot of the East because look, the 506 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: top three teams, and then as everybody else, right, the 507 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: Sixers and the Nets. The Bucks have been playing really well, 508 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, they've been seeming to have figured things out 509 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: a bit, and then you get to drop off to 510 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: the Hawks and the Heat and the Hornets and the Celtics, 511 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: and then you know, but in the West, it's you 512 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: don't really need to finish high because say, okay, oh, 513 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: we want to avoid you know, you want to finish first, 514 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: you want to avoid you know, we want teams two 515 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: three to play each other. I don't know that it 516 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: matters where you finish, because you're gonna play somebody who's 517 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: good anywhere, and no one's really going to have a 518 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: pass well once you get outside of Okay, the teams 519 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: that are playing in for seven and eight, one through 520 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: six can be pretty much interchangeable once you at the playoffs, 521 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: because you know, for the Lakers, you can say, all right, 522 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: have they been as good as the Jazz this year? No, 523 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: the Jazz look like they're coming, and boy, they're terrific. 524 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: But the Lakers playoff experience and having Lebron and a 525 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: D is going to be the great equalizer. I don't 526 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: know that it really matters where you so as long 527 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: as you do finish in the top six, I think 528 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: for any of these teams, Okay, it's gonna be a 529 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: tough road. We're gonna have a couple of really tough rounds. 530 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: It's gonna be that war of attrition. But you know, 531 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: trying to finish higher and going, boy, we got to 532 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: get higher in the conference. I don't know that that's 533 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: worth it, and I don't I need to do that. No, 534 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to matchups. But I don't think 535 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: they want to play that that. They don't want to 536 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: be that playing game like that, like that is you 537 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: don't want the randomness of one game. You know, you 538 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: just don't like that's that's a that's a big, big, big, big, big, big, 539 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: big big thing in the NBA. You don't want to 540 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: be that. You don't want that one play on game. 541 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Because we've seen in college basketball, like a Abileean Christian 542 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: can pull off an upset on one given night, things 543 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: that go bump in the night, you're gonna lose a game. 544 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: Um So I generally and and like, as of right now, 545 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: there's no real home court advantage. Now by the time 546 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: we get to the playoffs, will everything be fully opened up. 547 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: Will that will Utah be able to have all their fans. 548 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: It's a possibility, will Denver and be able to have 549 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: all their fans. It's possibility Portland, It's not likely because 550 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: it's Oregon. A possibility, So I don't and I and 551 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: there's also a mentality now in the NBA, we're like, look, 552 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: home court advantage, but one game we all we had 553 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: to do is win one road game and that thing 554 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: flips on them. Still you won game seven at home? 555 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: You just do and the Lakers probably aren't going to 556 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: get that when they play the better teams. Jason Smith 557 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: and Doug Gollie been for Dana the Dan Nets, all right, 558 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: So now the flip side of this is the Nets, right, 559 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: they come to this weekend, they lose a game where 560 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: they had both superstars. Kyrie Irving gets thrown out, so 561 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: does Dennis Shrewder. Kyrie Irving's not playing tonight for personal reasons. 562 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: And you know, you see this and I say to myself, 563 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: are the Big three ever going to play a game together? 564 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's ever really going? Or is there some 565 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of schedule we don't know about what the Nets 566 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: where they go, Okay, we just got to have two 567 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: guys every game because you know, you know, Katie needs 568 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: some time off and Kyrie needs some time off. So 569 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get two guys every single game 570 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 1: all the way through till the end. Yeah. Look, I 571 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be a problem when they get back. 572 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: Do I think they'll there's still some chemistry stuff because 573 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: they haven't played together that much. I do. I do, 574 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: And obviously everybody is like, can they guard anybody? But 575 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: they'll they'll be Okay, that'll that's a that dog will 576 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: hunt and and unlike the Lakers, I think there's a 577 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: playoff series or two that the Nets can use to 578 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: continue to build their chemistry. So I'm with you. It's like, dude, 579 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: when are you guys going to actually play a basketball 580 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: game on the same basketball team. Wouldn't that be just 581 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: the most amazing thing? But um, yeah, it hasn't happened yet. Yeah, 582 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: because I don't know that their next big game isn't 583 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: going to be until the Eastern Conference finals, right, because 584 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: as the season goes on, no matter who they have, right, 585 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: we've seen their regular season good, Right, that's the Nets. 586 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: They have proven they are regular season or where they 587 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: can show up every two nights and just steamroll team 588 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: and score one hundred and thirty points. Whether they have 589 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: Harden and Kyrie, whether they have Katie, whether they have 590 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: just one star. You know, they figured that part out. 591 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: So I look at they're probably going to finish first 592 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: in the East because you know, they'll win more games 593 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: than the Sixers. You know, the six have been playing 594 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: really well, but the Nets have really been coming on 595 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: a little bit stronger. So I expect them to have it. 596 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I mean, they're not going 597 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: to have any trouble until you get to the East finals, 598 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: so as much issues they have to figure out, and defensively, 599 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: there's going to be a big thing once you get 600 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: to that round in the playoffs, but I don't know 601 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: they're going to really sweat until that point. So they 602 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: as much as hey, you really want them to play 603 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: a little bit together, they kind of have all that 604 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: time because that's when I say, Okay, that's when I 605 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: can really start paying attention to Hey, Ken the Nets achieved, 606 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: we get to the Eastern Conference finals, and now it 607 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: gets serious for them. Yea, No, I'm I think I 608 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: think how you're looking at it is a very again, 609 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: your brain is funk is firing on all cylinders this morning, 610 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: and we're finding ways to completely agree with one another. 611 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's a different a different landscape east versus West, 612 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: and a different kind of kind of build. Other questions 613 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: about Nash and you know what they'll do in playoff? 614 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: Crun Yes, yes, And we have no idea Kyrie Irving, 615 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: like Kyrie Irving is just as likely to not play 616 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: a playoff, Like he's just one of these guys like hmm, 617 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: not feeling tonight, I'm not gonna play guys right, Like 618 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: it's the he's it's the Kyrie thing is fascinating because 619 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: he's incredibly talented, Like I'm remarkably talented, and I think 620 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: he wants to take on this persona of some sort 621 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: of artiste of the game of basketball, where you know, like, look, 622 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: I can just explain away like I'm an artist, and 623 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: people go like, okay, right, Like if I walk outside 624 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: of my house and I'm wearing plaid pants and a 625 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: striped shirt and you know, horned room glasses and hat, 626 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, and and bright orange sneakers, you know, they 627 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: would think it was a goof, right. But if I 628 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: said hey, I'm an artist and be like, Okay, well 629 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: he's an artist, right, that's Kyrie. But it's not out 630 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: of the realm of possibility that Kyrie irving. It's Game 631 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: six of the playoffs, and he's like, yeah, I just 632 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't feel connected. I don't. I don't feel connected 633 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: with this is my horoscope said, today is not a 634 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: good day. So I'm gonna I'm gonna think about it. 635 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna meditate about it, and I may show up 636 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: for the game or I may not show up for 637 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: the game, and you're just you'd be sitting there in 638 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: the locker room going like, is he coming? Is he coming? 639 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: Is he coming? I don't know? Does he come? He 640 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: text you, hedn't texts me. He doesn't. He doesn't use 641 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: his phone when he sees his shaman, like I don't. 642 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: That's an element to it, which like James Harden's only 643 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: one in the playoff got to the finals once. When 644 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: he's in Oklahoma City. I love how he's playing, but 645 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean I'm playing defense. Kyrie doesn't take defensive assignments properly. 646 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant looks like the real deal, but does he 647 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: get frustrated with those other guys did do they have 648 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: enough defense kind of around him? All those things, But 649 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: to me, the number one question is not them playing together. 650 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: It's it's Kyrie gonna feel like playing, feel and feel 651 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: connected with the universe on the proper days in the playoffs, 652 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: and that we have no answer for no. And that's 653 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: the maddening part about him. That's absolutely maddening about him 654 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: is is you can see how crazy talented he is 655 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: and how we how we how he can take over 656 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: games still with you know, with a team with three superstars, 657 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: and then you find it, Ah, he's not gonna play, 658 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: He's gonna take a few days off, He's gonna do this. 659 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: It's wow, you know, can can It's almost like having 660 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: a player who's talented but is injured a lot, because 661 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: you never know when is he going to be around 662 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: for the playoffs? Right like Dallas went all in on 663 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: Christops Porzingis, and Porzingis is talented, he's a good number 664 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: two to Luca Dontswich, but you never know if he's 665 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: gonna be around because he's gonna because he could get 666 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: injured all the time. Because that's what happens to him. 667 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: It's almost like the same thing with Kyrie. You have 668 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 1: to look at it as boy, he's terrific, but we 669 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: don't know when we're gonna have him, and it's it's 670 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: really hard to say, Okay, I feel good about where 671 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna be and making these plans going forward knowing 672 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: that he could be great for us. He could also 673 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: say I can't play in Game six. I mean that 674 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: that is a maddening deal that you make when you 675 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: have Kyrie Irving on your team. Fox Sports Radio has 676 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 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Yeah, he's an amazing, amazing player, and it's 696 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where and I don't I 697 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: think we've evolved on it some, but we have a 698 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: tendency to think that a disease like Parkinson's only strikes 699 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: like the feeble, right like the Montgomery Burns is of 700 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: the world, or old people like my grandpa had Alzheimer's, 701 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: and Parkinson's right like here, it is as healthy and 702 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: physically gifted a human being as any on the face 703 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: of the earth, and it can bring him to his knees. 704 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: It can strike anybody. Yeah, no, it's And I've just 705 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: been struck by the number of people they learned of 706 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: me doing the book and the book coming out. I 707 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: mean I I just every everyone that I know in 708 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: one way or another has been touched by this disease, 709 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 1: either someone in their family, I mean my my father 710 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: in law. Um it um. It is far more prevalent 711 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: than you than you realize. And but in the case 712 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: of Brian and certainly others, um yeah, the the young 713 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: onset and taking away um a phenomenal athlete. Uh. You know, 714 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: the two things that it that it attacks obviously is 715 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: your physical abilities and but it also uh creates depression, 716 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: and so it takes away your personality and your gregariousness. 717 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: And those are two huge parts, are two huge parts 718 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: of who Brian is and his identity, and he's had 719 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: to learn how to uh still survive and thrive with 720 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: with a disease that wants to take away the two 721 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: biggest parts of it. Rick given away copies of his 722 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: book and enter for a chance to win at good Reads. So, Rick, 723 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: when you autographed the copy, will you autograph the copy 724 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: and also have insight? Will you say, hey, you know, 725 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: hey Jason, thanks for buying the book. By the way, 726 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: the Knicks look great for a playoff spot like will 727 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: you will you do personalized inscriptions or I uh for 728 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: for you. Yes, we'll have to negotiate exactly what that 729 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: inscription says. I got something else in mind for you, 730 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, no, happy to personalize it for you 731 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: for you. Jason, Yes, Doug. Every time when I Rick 732 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: on my show at night, he's always there's going to 733 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: be some kind of crazy asked Knicks question. I'm just 734 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: ready for it would be some kind of and I'm 735 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: just gonna be ready for it because it's gonna happen. 736 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 1: So so Doug, he does this. They have this commercial 737 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: about being careful crossing train with train crossing. Yeah, to 738 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: be careful. I feel like that is a public service announcement, 739 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: especially for me. Right before I come on the show. 740 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: Watch out, there's going to be a fast moving vehicle 741 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: and you could get blindsided by it. Yeah. Look, I 742 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do the Knicks. I'm not going to 743 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: do the Jets, and I'm not going to do Syracuse. 744 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: So right, those are those are Jason's three three pitches. 745 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: He throws them all very very well. He locates him 746 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: quite quite well right time in the count. Um, I 747 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: do want to talk about like the Lakers. Um, So look, 748 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: we we both heard, we both know people in that 749 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: organization kind of weird. I know, they go and beat 750 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: the Nets with their backups Kyrie and gets thrown out 751 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: Soda Soda shrewder. It looks like they're all going to 752 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: be back healthy and play before the end of the season. 753 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: But what are they really gonna beat? Like? What what 754 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: does this team like when it's whole. You know, what's 755 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: fascinating to me is that we we have the Nets 756 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: and the Lakers since me, they both have uh, they 757 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: are opposites, but they have the same issue, which is 758 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: that they are they are particularly did on one side 759 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: of the ball, but they are um a little bit 760 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: of nimick on the other. For the For the Nets, 761 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: obviously it's an amazing offense, amazing offensive players, but defensively, 762 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: if we're talking about a team that's championship caliber, uh, 763 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: they're not good enough defensively historically where it tells us 764 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: they're not good enough defensively, and historically the Lakers are 765 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: not good enough offensively and that's where um. As we 766 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: see Andre Drummond play um and kind of the weirdness. 767 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people have made a big 768 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: deal about how he dominated the Nets. In some ways 769 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: he did but there were there were a lot of 770 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: plays where I go, that's not going to fly in 771 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: a playoff series, Like you can't get away with that 772 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: turnover or that move or trying to put the ball 773 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: on the floor from from that place if you're if 774 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: you're that big man, and so you know, I think 775 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: I get the general impression that people are just anticipating 776 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: a Lakers nets Final and unless something happens for them 777 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: on their respective weak side of the ball, I don't 778 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: see them getting there. And again, I'm just going based 779 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: on history, you have to be more of a balanced 780 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: team between offense and defense to win a championship than 781 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: either of those teams have demonstrated to this point. No, Rick, 782 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Lakers, well, how do you 783 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: slot them in the Western Conference? Now, lady? Are they 784 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: still the teammate when they're healthy? I can expect it? 785 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: Or is this where, hey, really, you know, when you 786 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs, there's two or three teams that 787 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: they're probably going to have real difficulty beating. Yeah, I look, 788 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: I believe that even with Andre Drummond, they're still going 789 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: to have an issue with size. And obviously we see 790 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: a couple of teams out there, and there's no accident 791 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: that Denver loaded up on side. There's no accident that 792 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: that Utah didn't make any moves and believes that they 793 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: can win with what they have. There's no accident that 794 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: the Clippers added a DeMarcus Cousins. Um. You know, the 795 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: teams have recognized that if we're going to beat the Lakers, 796 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: this is this is one of the elements that we 797 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: that we have to have. And one are the things 798 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: that made the Lakers so potent last year is that 799 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: they could play both big and small. Yeah, you know 800 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: that they were. They were very versatile. I don't feel 801 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: they're as versatile this year. Now. If you're asking me 802 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: which between the what the Lakers have and the Nets have, 803 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go with the team that is uh, 804 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: that is defensively oriented. I just believe in the postseason 805 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: that's going to get you, that's going to get you further. Um. 806 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: I think we saw a little bit of that with 807 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: the Nets in this game. And it's hard to take 808 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: anything away from it. It's a regular season game. Both 809 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 1: teams were missing a lot of players, but the game's 810 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: going to generally get slower and more physical and you're 811 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna be allowed to play that way. And that's my 812 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: biggest question with the Nets is, uh, you know, can 813 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: can they handle it when the pace slows and the 814 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: game gets more physical and with the with the Lakers, 815 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: my only hesitation is like, I'm I can't one. I 816 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: pointed to that one team last year that I thought 817 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: was going to be able to take them down, and 818 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: that was the Clippers, and uh, and obviously got singed 819 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: by by taking that. You know, do I look at 820 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: that one team and say they're the team that can 821 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: knock them off? I believe the Clippers are a better team. 822 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: I believe that they are motivated from last year. So 823 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: push came to job, I would say, uh, yeah, I 824 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: think this is a different Clippers team now. May I 825 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: may get burned again by by saying that, but when 826 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: I look at the way they're playing, particularly now, I 827 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: think more than anything, even compared to last year, they 828 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: are taking a pride in how they play defense. Kawhi 829 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: Leonard in particular, is taking pride in getting back to 830 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: being the defensive player that we think he can be. 831 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: And I love the way the ball is moving and 832 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: I only think that Rajon Rondo is going to help 833 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: help that when the ball gets stuck with Kauai, and 834 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: Kauai thinks I'm the offensive engine with this team. They 835 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: are not at their best, but they've been playing a 836 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: different way. And that's why. You know, whether it's Denver, 837 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: it's Utah. Here's the other thing. The Lakers are not 838 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: going to be coming from a position of strength. There's 839 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: a very good chance that they're going to have to 840 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: work their way up through the play in games, and 841 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 1: that's going to take just a little bit more out 842 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: of them than we saw last year. So obviously I 843 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: still think they're the team to beat, but I think 844 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: they are more beatable this year than they were last year. No, no, listen, 845 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: And here's what's interesting about You know, everybody wants to 846 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: point to the Clippers collapse yet last year, and I 847 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: do think that quarantine the bubble had a bunch to 848 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: do with it. I don't think they were a perfect team, 849 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: but was also the first year of that team together. 850 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: Does anybody do we not remember what the Lakers look 851 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: like at the end of Lebron's first year. Let me 852 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: refresh your memory. Okay, Magic Johnson quit before the last 853 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: game the season, but that wasn't even the worst part 854 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 1: of the year. The worst part was that Lebron quit 855 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 1: on the team well before that, right, remember, he was out, 856 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: he was hurt after they won on Christmas Day, and 857 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 1: then he came in with a glass of wine, which 858 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: everyone thought was a horrible look and horrible idea except 859 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 1: lebron sycophants. And then he wanted the whole team traded 860 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: so he could get Anthony Davis, so they all quit 861 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: on him, and then there's the awful visual. Like, my 862 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: point is that, yes, it looked bad at the end 863 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: of the year for the Clippers to not even get 864 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: a chance to play the Lakers, but that's what sometimes 865 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: these first year super teams, it's really hard to get 866 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: everybody on the same page. Especially it's not just the 867 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: way the Clippers went about it. It's true anywhere Lebron 868 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: didn't win his first year in Miami, his first year 869 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: back in Cleveland, his first year in LA stands reason 870 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: that the Clippers and the Clippers made some adjustments. I 871 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: love the Rondo trade, even though I'm not a huge 872 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: Rondo guy. Everybody with the Lakers last year was like, 873 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: that's a really good move. He's exactly what they need 874 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: and that's not what we need them having. So I'm 875 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: with you on it. Let me get to the confounding 876 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: team of all confounding teams. Last night was amazing for 877 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: the Celtics. They go on a thirty one to three 878 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: run against the Nuggets. Do we have any idea who 879 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: what the Celtics are? No? Look, I mean, I don't 880 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: think they're last night's team. I don't think this means 881 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: that there's suddenly a title contender. I believe that there 882 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: is a certain degree of pride there and it's probably 883 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: more a reflection of the Nuggets and they're Achilles Heel 884 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, Yoki's uh sometimes their matchups 885 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: that when he doesn't have it going, they completely come apart. 886 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 1: And his numbers were still really good. But there's still 887 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: an element with the Nuggets, with the Michael Porter junior 888 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 1: balance um. And I feel like there's two personalities there, 889 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: and I know what personality almost the personnel and the 890 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: personality and Mike Malone's personality I don't. I like Tom 891 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 1: Thibodeaux and Mike Malone. I think are of the same 892 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: ilk and they want the same type of player, and 893 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: Mike Malone wants the grinders. He wants the Jimmy Butler types, 894 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: and yet you got some key players on the Denver 895 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: Nuggets teams that are not grinders. Michael Michael Porter Junior 896 00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: is not a grinder, and you know what, and Kitch 897 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: has become one more so than before. But even he 898 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: is kind of a finesse big and so I feel 899 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: like that dynamic is the tricky park here when it 900 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: comes to the Nuggets, and they're what they're capable of 901 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: and where they go. And I look, I mean, it's 902 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: been a bad year. It's been a disappointing year for 903 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: the Celtics, and every once in a while they're going 904 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: to rear their head and say enough is enough. But 905 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's sustainable because their best players 906 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: are not are not leaders, and they don't have enough physicality. 907 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: So you know, every now and then a team's going 908 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: to get fed up with what they've done. But it's 909 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: not sustainable, and that's what I see with the Celtics. 910 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, that is at Rick Buker, 911 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: Fox Sports One analyst and insider. His new book, Rebound 912 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: with Brian Grant, available right now. Check him out on 913 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: Twitter for a chance to win a one of ten 914 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: autograph copies of the book as well. Rick as always buddy, 915 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 1: great stuff man. We'll talk to you soon, my pleasure. Guys, 916 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 917 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 918 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app