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Speaker 2: Imposter syndrome definition Okay, dang, I thought she was gonna

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Speaker 3: you're gonna take a sabbatical because you're pregnant at the

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Speaker 3: beginning of your Uh, I'm not promotion probation.

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Speaker 1: Yes, probationary period.

444
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Speaker 3: You gotta know, you got to go in knowing that

445
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Speaker 3: the odds are stacked against me. What do I need

446
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Speaker 3: to do to beat these odds? And having a baby

447
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Speaker 3: at the time of going through a ninety day crobation

448
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Speaker 3: is absolutely instill well.

449
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Speaker 1: And then taking those full six months.

450
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Speaker 3: And then and then picking choosing someone.

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Speaker 1: Who so so that's another that's another thing.

452
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Speaker 2: She could have made the suggestion you didn't get to

453
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Speaker 2: choose your replacement in a.

454
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Speaker 3: Course, because I'm sure she would have picked a homegirl.

455
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Speaker 2: A homegirl wouldn't have gotten from some also had a relationship,

456
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Speaker 2: they had already sat in the powers that be behind

457
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Speaker 2: probably already knew who.

458
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Speaker 3: They were pushing Lauren of like, come on, this makes sense.

459
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Speaker 1: And then that's another thing.

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Speaker 2: Let's be very clear for anyone in corporate who may

461
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Speaker 2: think that there's a hiring freeze.

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Speaker 1: If a company needs to, they will always create a position.

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Speaker 5: So can we go with this with the corporate definition,

464
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Speaker 5: because Rocky mentioned intentionality and with creative there's definitely that competition,

465
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Speaker 5: but then adding the whole corporate element.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So corporate culture is a system that refers

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Speaker 2: to the beliefs and behaviors created by the founders, management,

468
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Speaker 2: and employees of a company, influencing how they act and

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Speaker 2: who they hire.

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Speaker 1: It then trickles down to.

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Speaker 2: The employees as a set of unspoken expectations that employees

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Speaker 2: then learn to follow.

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Speaker 1: And so maybe that's where the frustration came from.

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Speaker 2: She maybe thought that she held more power with her

475
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Speaker 2: position than what she really did, and I think that,

476
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Speaker 2: but I think that sometimes we feel that in our positions,

477
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Speaker 2: like in terms of project management, like well, if I

478
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Speaker 2: got this role, I should be able to do X,

479
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Speaker 2: Y Z, element op and no, you can go and

480
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Speaker 2: get called into HR real quick.

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Speaker 3: She just got her crash course unfortunately, Live on Air.

482
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Speaker 1: Did you like the Live on Air?

483
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Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it. I think it was a masterclass

484
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 3: at what we're discussing now you get to see it

485
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Speaker 3: from all different standpoints, from Lauren standpoint, from her standpoint

486
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Speaker 3: of being entitled and just not knowing corporate structure. Just

487
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Speaker 3: even how Charlamagne handled it. I know a lot of

488
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Speaker 3: people were thinking, oh, he was trying to make jokes

489
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Speaker 3: and trying to make life. It is still a business.

490
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Speaker 3: The ratings still need to like, so people forget about

491
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Speaker 3: that part Like this is supposed to be an entertaining

492
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Speaker 3: morning show. Two women bickering back and forth at land hold.

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Speaker 1: On, two black women, two black women.

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Speaker 2: And I'll say that was my other part about this

495
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Speaker 2: that I really didn't like in terms of And now

496
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Speaker 2: I'm about to get into the Black community and us

497
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Speaker 2: as content creators specifically and even entrepreneurs, we for whatever reason,

498
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Speaker 2: still live in this scarcity space where we don't believe

499
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Speaker 2: that there's enough to go around. There's never enough room

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Speaker 2: at the table to add anyone else. And so for me,

501
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Speaker 2: the problem with another MC being added to me, as

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Speaker 2: long as your pay didn't deep, I didn't understand.

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Speaker 1: It, Like I didn't even lose your position. They're adding one.

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Speaker 3: You can less work, same pay. Do your girl read

505
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: those reports because I didn't like doing it anyway, And

506
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna come in here and be the messy jet.

507
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Speaker 3: They didn't bring her in to be the comedian. They

508
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Speaker 3: brought her in to be a producer. Yes, report reader,

509
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Speaker 3: let her do that.

510
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Speaker 1: But the ego, yeah, ego to watch.

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Speaker 6: This, you wake up.

512
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Speaker 8: She fed the baby, put some coffee in her body,

513
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Speaker 8: She opens the phone.

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and she's festering this and then guess what she

516
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Speaker 2: came in and they just.

517
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Speaker 6: So she goes on live. I'm sick of this ship.

518
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Speaker 6: They don't have my bag. They do this, she took.

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Speaker 3: Apparently they've had conversations behind the sees well, but now

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Speaker 3: she's answering to the people answering. She admitted that she

521
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Speaker 3: feels the same way.

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Speaker 2: So to me, here's the thing. I I'm everything under

523
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Speaker 2: the sun. I have comments about everything.

524
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Speaker 1: Y'all could think I'm wrong, y'all can think I'm right.

525
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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: But because I'm someone who speaks on so much, maybe

527
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Speaker 2: when the weight of those comments get to me, I

528
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Speaker 2: call my therapist, right, because how can I really sit

529
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Speaker 2: here and be the pot calling the kettle black all

530
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Speaker 2: the time publicly? Like girl, you literally have just with

531
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Speaker 2: the mess where you talk shit about people.

532
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Speaker 3: Right, that's how you got on talking shit about people.

533
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Speaker 1: And mind you not only people communities, because that's how

534
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Speaker 1: the community, the trans communities, all communities, all communities.

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Speaker 3: I also have a personal situation with her because she

536
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Speaker 3: jumped down my throat because I felt that she was

537
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Speaker 3: disrespecting the black community. I think it was the neighborhood talk. Okay,

538
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Speaker 3: she was sticking up for Jojo Se was. She was

539
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Speaker 3: saying that Jojo Sea was dresses fine. She was like,

540
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Speaker 3: y'all bitches be letting your sixteen year old daughters come

541
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Speaker 3: out with bluey shorts. So I commented back, like, sis,

542
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Speaker 3: this is a blog that it's predominantly black. I think

543
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Speaker 3: you might not want to use the first thing she said,

544
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Speaker 3: almost a site bitch y'a don't like you anyway, hold

545
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Speaker 3: on now, hold on now. But with that being said,

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Speaker 3: the commentary now has absolutely nothing to do with that,

547
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Speaker 3: because I've seen her several times, was never on site,

548
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Speaker 3: so clearly that is not an issue.

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Speaker 1: I think though.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing with us as well, and I

551
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: know we've talked about it, even within the rat beef

552
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Speaker 2: element of it all, like there's just so many things

553
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: getting personal when really, at the end of the day,

554
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: we're all cultural commentators. We all are here to interact.

555
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Speaker 3: That goes back to emotional intelligence, and I get it.

556
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: I was alive. I'm still a fire cracker, but I'm

557
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: not really thinking thinking in those terms, like for real.

558
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Speaker 1: First off.

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Speaker 3: Them, we got part like, what are we talking about here, y'all?

560
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Speaker 3: We have way too much money to lose.

561
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Speaker 1: We have responsibilities, you have two children, how to look

562
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Speaker 1: after I have.

563
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Speaker 3: A cat baby? You know I have a cat.

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Speaker 2: So then I want to get back into again, maybe

565
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Speaker 2: taking us away from breakfast club and going into the

566
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Speaker 2: corporate element of.

567
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Speaker 1: It all in terms of entitlement.

568
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Speaker 2: And how I kind of started and prefaced this all

569
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Speaker 2: was don't hate the player, hate the game.

570
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: We are all pawn.

571
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Speaker 2: Pieces in whatever element we decide to be in. Right,

572
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: if you applied for a job, you are actively signing

573
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Speaker 2: on to be a subordinate to someone else that has power,

574
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Speaker 2: that can tell you what to do and what not

575
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Speaker 2: to do. And that's just what it is. If you

576
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Speaker 2: want to make the rules, make your own game, become

577
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, be someone that. But it's funny because I

578
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: just sat on the women in panel conversation and everyone's

579
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: giving these flowery ass bits of advice, and I said, listen,

580
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real to y'all.

581
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Speaker 1: Send in the audience. A lot of y'all are workers.

582
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: You're not bosses. You probably don't have the ability to

583
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Speaker 2: create your own ip or to do this, And so

584
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways in which we don't hold

585
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Speaker 2: the mirror up and look at what we're really capable

586
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 2: of what art are, our strengths are, what our weaknesses are,

587
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: what our skills are, and what really makes sense for

588
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 2: us to just live life and be fucking happy, right

589
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: and so in terms, and.

590
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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with being a worker. She hates workers.

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Speaker 1: I can't say delivery.

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Speaker 3: Corporate nine to five entrepreneur. Yeah, listen, when you got

593
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: to work for a dollar, some a ship show everywhere you.

594
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: Go, and we got to work for a dollar because

595
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Speaker 2: the thirty six dollars, God damn, god damn. Let me

596
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Speaker 2: see where else do we want to take this? Are

597
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: we have we unfolded all the layers of that before

598
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Speaker 2: we want to take it.

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Speaker 5: Into kind of I think the topics okay, for y'all,

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Speaker 5: this is interesting, the corporate jobs, this is entrepreneurs.

601
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Speaker 4: What made y'all? What made each of you guys leave?

602
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Speaker 5: I got fired, but you could have went back, your

603
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Speaker 5: choice to go back or not.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't on no college capital. Well he ain't getting

605
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Speaker 2: taken back either. Wait, you got fired four?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

607
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Speaker 3: Well I got fired several times. But my last firing

608
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Speaker 3: which led me to call in Mona Scott like, hey, Mona,

609
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Speaker 3: I think I'm ready. I was working in finance. It's

610
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Speaker 3: an investment banker series seven, series eight, nine, ten sixty three. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

611
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Speaker 3: it's a lot. But I was doing finance by day

612
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Speaker 3: in radio at night, so I had a show on

613
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Speaker 3: serious sexem and I was talking my shit tattoos out

614
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Speaker 3: in the corporate world. That world. They had no idea

615
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Speaker 3: I even had tattoos. I was the girl with the

616
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Speaker 3: suit and the stockings and the button up shirt. I

617
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Speaker 3: was that girl by day and by night I was

618
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Speaker 3: rocky thunder. So I got caught up in leaving my

619
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Speaker 3: computer open on a YouTube video that had me talking

620
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Speaker 3: major shit, and the next day I'd come into work

621
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Speaker 3: and they're looking at me like, who are you masked woman?

622
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Speaker 3: And then wow, that was it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the interesting thing now.

624
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Speaker 2: Like even I remember when I when I first started potting,

625
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Speaker 2: I was still I was in my actual last year

626
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Speaker 2: of college, but I was like Goldman Sax and I

627
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Speaker 2: remember telling them, I know, they thought a bitch was

628
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: burning because I had a doctor's.

629
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Speaker 1: Appointment every week. But certain days I had to leave

630
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Speaker 1: because I had to go to injurine room and record r.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

632
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: I said, I had a doctor's appointment.

633
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: I got, I got, I got, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, And let's be very clear, the privilege of being

635
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Speaker 1: a mom the kids is a goddamn excuse all the time.

636
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: Well, no, they didn't care about no kids in corporate.

637
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: They don't care about kids in corporate. They don't care

638
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: about I remember one time I told him that my

639
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: washing machine was overflowing at home. No, no, no, I

640
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: had to use that because I ran out of my

641
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: kid is sick or I got to pick up my kids.

642
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: So now it's the washing machine. Really. It was one

643
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: on six in Park and they needed a judge for

644
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: free sel Friday, and I was like, I'll be there.

645
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: Excuse me, my washing machine is overflooding in the apartment downstairs.

646
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: I just ran out of excuse. I think I got

647
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Speaker 3: fired like seven times before. Actually I'm done.

648
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess that's the thing too, right, excuses,

649
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: You really can't make them like jobs. These corporate bubbles

650
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: not only will have you and I so as I

651
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: want to bring up another thing that got me into

652
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: thick water. This was during my uh see the thing

653
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: is run. We were talking about being a business owner

654
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: and having compassion for loss. So we know that there's bereavements,

655
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: there's grieving periods and things like that. And as a

656
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: business owner now I shared my thoughts on maybe how

657
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: long I feel like you should have of course now

658
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: because I'm a human first, because apparently other corporations are human,

659
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: I have to People were telling me I should allow

660
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Speaker 2: someone as long as they need paid. No, okay, but

661
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: your job may not be here when you get back,

662
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: and that was the must go on because the show in.

663
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: Any umbrella element must go on. And that's the problem.

664
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 3: I know.

665
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: We view each other as human beings first. Unfortunately, when

666
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: you be I'm a part of a machine. You're a

667
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: part of the machine. The human element of us dissipates. Unfortunately. However,

668
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: now is a business owner, you can your business will crumble,

669
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: the machine will be broken if you sit here and

670
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: then look at all of your pieces or employees as

671
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: human beings and allow them grace.

672
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: Which is why I be like I.

673
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: Hate when grace come because everyone accepts these elements of grace,

674
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: Like I think limits, there's limits to grace. Grace can go.

675
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: Now in terms of grace, I want to go into

676
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: that too. From a personality standpoint, a podcaster standpoint, hating

677
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: the person you work for, while also maybe hating some

678
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: of the people you work with and navigating through it.

679
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: I say that because.

680
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: A lot of people boom from TLC, Backstreet Boys, even

681
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 2: the era of the girl group, boy band era, they

682
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: were all friends. Now we're seeing behind the music, and

683
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: they all hated hat in our lives.

684
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: No again, Corporate people viewing this.

685
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: Entertainment space is something completely different is just outlandish because

686
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: they expect all of us to be friends, all of them.

687
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: We're just happy. We got to dress like ourselves, talk

688
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: like I solve what's the problem we're making money talking

689
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 3: shit on the mic.

690
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, because.

691
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: We are still dealing with not the machine, but the

692
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: human element. And they remove that like someone could say

693
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: something or I could just not like someone. I don't

694
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: like it.

695
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: I just don't like you. I don't like the way

696
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: you talk, I don't like to walk, I don't like

697
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: the way you smell. I mean I have.

698
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: That, Okay, So then and what element?

699
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 7: Then?

700
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: How do we draw the bridge between people seeing us

701
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: as human? So I say that to say, how do

702
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: we correlate that us staying somewhere hating our boss is

703
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: the same way as us showing up on a pod,

704
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: maybe not liking the person we're sitting by, or having

705
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: a guest on that we really don't like. Like, there's

706
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: all of those elements. I mean, you've written books for

707
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: people that you know, you like or don't like, or

708
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: who knows. I know you travel with you know a

709
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: lot of people. Yes, when you outside, you may or

710
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: may not like them all, but you coexist. That element

711
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: is lost upon us in entertainment. Where do you feel like?

712
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: I don't think it will ever happen. I think no,

713
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: it's an experience that you need it. You need to

714
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 3: walk the walk to know it. You can't just because

715
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: from the outside looking in, everything looks glamorous. It's like

716
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: you're doing whatever it is that you want. How can

717
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: you have an issue with this? But it's not that

718
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 3: there's layers of personalities that just don't mesh.

719
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: Well, what's the hardest part about showing up as yourself

720
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: in front of people?

721
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: The hardest part about I don't really have that issue anymore, No,

722
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: because I'll.

723
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: Be seeing I get no comments now on X on Twitter. Yeah,

724
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: you don't have like there's there's no issue. Well, then

725
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: how do you knock out the noise the same way

726
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: we said, maybe Jess couldn't I answered me, I go

727
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: to therapy. How do you block out the noise of

728
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: negative opinions about you as a person?

729
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: Oh, sometimes it gets it gets nasty.

730
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Aka, oh I don't go on there and uh they

731
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: get no play on this gume house.

732
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they go for the gusto. They really try

733
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: to kill you, like they completely make up narratives that

734
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: don't even exist, Like you really know me, Like I

735
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: don't have a problem with somebody talking about things that

736
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 3: I put online, Go ahead, pick that apart. But these

737
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: motherfuckers go into my life like my family. You don't know,

738
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: someone made up this entire story I had a daughter

739
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: and I abandoned her to travel a daughter since when

740
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: they get my age wrong, they get my finances wrong,

741
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: they get all things wrong, and then there's an entire blog,

742
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: an entire forum and thread based on these in line.

743
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: So it does get to me sometimes, but it doesn't

744
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: keep me from showing up as much.

745
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: All of the bad things that could be said about people.

746
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: I guess this is what gets to me. How do

747
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: you not let it get to you that they believe

748
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: they know you because you exist online because you share your.

749
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: Opinions like, there are people that will be like, like,

750
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you. It was so bad, So

751
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: this weekend, I'm just gonna go ahead and share. I

752
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 1: sat next to.

753
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: This motherfucker and I'm gonna call him a motherfucker because

754
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: I didn't like the energy. So he's someone who has

755
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: been who was brought to do something for horrible decisions

756
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: years ago. When I say years ago, like seven years ago.

757
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: So we sit down and we talk and he's he

758
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: has his opinions, so he's.

759
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: Villainized on next as well.

760
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I'm villainized too, and he was

761
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: like yes, because you're nasty and I said nasty. He

762
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you was nasty to me when we met,

763
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: and I was like, I said, I'm never nasty to

764
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: people out the gate. So I literally looked at him

765
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: and I was like, if I was nasty to you,

766
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: what'd you do?

767
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 6: Right?

768
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: What you do?

769
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: Within a millisecond, he sat there and was like, I

770
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: posted a video about fat phobia, and you went on

771
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: your platform and responded, and because I'm skinny, said I

772
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: couldn't speak to fat phobia, but you don't know about

773
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 2: my body dysmorphia, and literally the energy was that he

774
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: took offense to something that I said in response to

775
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: him speaking on something because I didn't know him, and

776
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: I was like, sucks for him. I still felt the

777
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: same way, nigga, you're skinny. Why are you talking about

778
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: fat phobia?

779
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: Period? So I looked at him and I was like.

780
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Your issue with body dysmorphia is your relationship with yourself.

781
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 2: Fat phobia is someone's experience with society. Two different things.

782
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: But also, I don't know you. I saw a skinny

783
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: nigga talking about fat phobia. You're not a voice for

784
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: anyone who's dealt with fat phobia.

785
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: And skinny man he and he literally went.

786
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: Into well I had gained some pounds in my family,

787
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, I don't know you when

788
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: I spoke to something that I saw on the internet,

789
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: and if you came at me with this energy that

790
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: you're giving me right now, you absolutely received what I

791
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: gave you. But the bartender saw it getting hot, and

792
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: the bartender tried to interject, and he immediately told the bartender.

793
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: Uh, uh, you don't know her. I know her because

794
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: I've been following her for years.

795
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: That's doing the most. That's a little psychotic to.

796
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: Where the bartender apologized when he left, but it literally

797
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: was like you know me because you've been following me.

798
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: Right, Like that's a smidge a slip of even my.

799
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: Opinion being on Jess, on other women where I think

800
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: they're on platforms where they're not, they're kind of pointless there.

801
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: Like my opinion on a woman.

802
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: Now, it seemed as I'm not a girl's girl yet

803
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: I have friendships for fifteen plus years. There has to

804
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: be a separation with me realizing like what the reality

805
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: is and I'm kind.

806
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: Of girl's girls thing being a girl's girl.

807
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: What does it mean people?

808
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: Packaged girls girls? Meaning oh, if she's if it's a girl,

809
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: if she has a regina that you automatically are down, good, right, bad, wrong, indifferent,

810
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: you're down, you're rolling. That's not to me, that's not

811
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 3: a girl's girl.

812
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was a girl's girl.

813
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: I funk with women who are we have a relatable

814
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: we have the same sense of opinions in some regard,

815
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: I'm not just gonna deal with a bitch because she

816
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: she got nasty energy, she's lame, she talks shit all day.

817
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: But because she's a girl, I'm riding with her. That's

818
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: not how that shit works. I agree.

819
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: I think that we need to maybe dismantle this girl's

820
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: girl ideology because let's be very clear, there's the housewives

821
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 2: and then there's the baddies.

822
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Right, we're not all the same. There's a huge there's

823
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: a huge and.

824
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that I have to hate you and

825
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: you're not my cup of tea.

826
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: Period.

827
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: You stay on that side of the fence and I'll

828
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: be on this side.

829
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: But also, wait a second, do y'all have a saying

830
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: like that?

831
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: I know there's bro code, but do y'all talk about

832
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: men's men or like my guy's guy, a guy's guy.

833
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: You get the head nod, I mean head.

834
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 2: That's a privilege of y'all. Like, there's a way that

835
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: y'all are able to each other. There's a way that

836
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: y'all can joke with each other.

837
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: See, yeah, there's the way.

838
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: We always have some kind of rule book to exist.

839
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: In their ability to hold an opinion.

840
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: Stand on it, not like someone and not be called

841
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: a hater as soon as a woman. Again, maybe let's

842
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: also dismantle the patriarchy has a fucking opinion in a

843
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: voice and demands to be heard.

844
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: He issue it's on the side. It's like, nah, I

845
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: should be able to walk past and be like cool head,

846
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: not don't fuck with you again.

847
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: We all have an opinion, we all have an asshole.

848
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: Like to me, I just I just.

849
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: Don't understand why when it comes to women in this

850
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: space creatively, we get the labels of being everything bad.

851
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: And if we.

852
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 5: Say, men are distrusting of like your opinions, right, Like,

853
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: if I give an opinion, they're going to debate me

854
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 5: on the opinion. If you give an opinion, they're going

855
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 5: to be like, what's what's behind that?

856
00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

857
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 5: So they won't just honor your take straight up, They're

858
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 5: gonna think, like, especially if you say somebody's name, then

859
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 5: they're gonna be like, oh, well, it must be something

860
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 5: that we don't know about.

861
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: And that's why she's saying.

862
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: I hate that for us.

863
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 8: They don't value objectivity, right, It's like it's always discourse,

864
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 8: and discourse means your hater.

865
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: It's weird though, because at the same time, our entire

866
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: community thrives on discourse. Hello, we thrive on thrive in terms.

867
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 4: Of its gas.

868
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: It's what's she said she absolutely loved the breakfast club.

869
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: It's why we have the idea of gang wars and

870
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: why people can monetize so much off of speaking about

871
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: what violence collectively.

872
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: Let's be very clear.

873
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: It's some conditioning there. Yeah, for sure, there's there's elements

874
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 3: of conditioning.

875
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 7: We can't agree to disagree and then walk away.

876
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: Let's be very clear.

877
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 8: That when you tweeted that you said that Homegirl said

878
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 8: that it's on site.

879
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 6: Why did they have to be on site a little bit?

880
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: I see you.

881
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 6: Let's have a conversation.

882
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: That would be great. You would need you have to

883
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: have those types of communication skills.

884
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 6: How do we get to.

885
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 8: How did we get to sitting at a table, you

886
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 8: saying whatever you know, sharing your and this might just

887
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 8: start a drink at you.

888
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's excessive. I don't think that really happens in

889
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: real life though, if there's no cameras involved reality TV.

890
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I could never had that.

891
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: As many people call me hater or hate on me,

892
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: I've never had that experience in real life. People come

893
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: up to me and like, oh my god, I love

894
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: you all. You're so spiritual, because I think people with

895
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: sinse actually see that your people could be multi layered,

896
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 3: multi faceted, and they don't just take a screen cap

897
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: of Okay, she tweeted this about this person, she's just

898
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: a bitch across the board. Right, People with actual sense,

899
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: they see along the timeline, you give a little bit

900
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 3: of there is to give a little bit of that.

901
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: But these people who are just like you're a complete hater.

902
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: I've seen. I've actually run into people that I've seen

903
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: in my comments like all this business. I hope they

904
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: drag on the next episode and I see, oh girl,

905
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: now I really fuck with you.

906
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: But you know what's waiting too. We have friends and

907
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: we don't like everything they do.

908
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: No, I tell them, why in a public setting can

909
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: I not have an opinion on somebody I like and

910
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: say something that I dislike?

911
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: Right?

912
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like it's it's immediately that

913
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: we're a hater. We don't.

914
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 3: The crazy thing is that they all do it too.

915
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 3: We're just highlighted. Yes, we're just on a different platform.

916
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: Now, I want to go.

917
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: Back to why we thrive on discourse just a little bit.

918
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: And when I say that, you asked how I would

919
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: Let's say, Kendrick Lamar got a number one off of

920
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: thriving on discourse.

921
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: Let's be very clear. Hip hop was saved through discourse. Absolutely,

922
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: we had a whole like eas versus it.

923
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: Isn't necessary evil at times.

924
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Unfortunately within our community.

925
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: Right and if we look at it from the standpoint

926
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 2: of podcasting, one of our biggest episodes today that still

927
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: gets being brought up for horrible decisions was having a

928
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: therapist on to mend the discourse between Weezy and I.

929
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: At a point of our acceleration, you had also the

930
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: same therapist on. But you've handled discourse as well on

931
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: the mic. We're seeing it now with the podcast with

932
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: one hundred eleven mics.

933
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: But it's become like a part of.

934
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 9: And that's what one hundred eleven mics. That's the issue.

935
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 9: What too many personalities that creates a discourse?

936
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: No, because for my pot there's only two so.

937
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: And discourse with the audience with just one mic, so

938
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: discourse with myself.

939
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 7: We can't have a podcast with five women, six women?

940
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: Oh wait, is this what we're doing? Are we juster?

941
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 9: Okay, hold on, we have a podcast. We have a

942
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 9: podca five women, five women.

943
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: Here's my here's my issue with that. Last here's my

944
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: issue with that being phrases a question. Yes, look at

945
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: the mail podcasts that had three that couldn't make it

946
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: or two or in and ounced like. At the end

947
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: of the day, men and women both have egos. We're

948
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: both existing in a landscape where now as well, if

949
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: we're talking about us within blackness, a lot of us

950
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: don't come from generational wealth or parents who are entrepreneurs,

951
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: So a lot of us are throwing spaghetti at the

952
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: goddamn wall and seeing what fits. And unfortunately, when you

953
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: create partnerships with friends or with other black and brown individuals,

954
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: we all have this idea.

955
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: Of what a business looks like being ran. We all

956
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: have an idea of that.

957
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: But also, unfortunately, because we strive and seeing what we see,

958
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 2: we idolize the criminals, we idolize the rappers, we autolize

959
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: the wealth of it all. We also autolize ego, and

960
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: that's the problem. We idolize showing up with pride like

961
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it's all on our chest.

962
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: We here out we got to win everything, which is

963
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: why opinions are hard. Everybody want to be fucking right

964
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: in the room, nobody want to be wrong. So really

965
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: it's it's the ego element of what we see. Why

966
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: maybe you get fired, why maybe you can't exist within it,

967
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: maybeotiate contract or, or or why a nigga has to

968
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: hire everyone under him and no longer has partners in

969
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: a podspace, you.

970
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

971
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: Like ego sets up how you feel like you have

972
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: to run an infrastructure. But it's also the dismantling of one,

973
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 2: which is why it's not a man or woman thing.

974
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: I think ego all of.

975
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 5: Us have it absolutely to go with that though. So Rocky,

976
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 5: you had a good comment you said, where's the fun

977
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 5: in that?

978
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 6: Right?

979
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 4: Because over the discourse and everything.

980
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: So there's the idea of friends getting together to do shows,

981
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 5: but Mandy just said, you have to put some corporate

982
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 5: element around it.

983
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: So if you want to make money.

984
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 5: So for both of y'all, King and Mandy, y'all both

985
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 5: decided to keep making money through a partnership, right, So

986
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 5: what were the things that you had to overcome? There's

987
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 5: some corporate elements to that? Did you have to keep going? Right,

988
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 5: because if you're not gonna play the game, you're just

989
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 5: like fuck it, I'm just gonna leave and go.

990
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: But y'all a step y'all kept making bread off of it.

991
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 2: And outside of this, I do want to piggyback because

992
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: I want to throw this to Rocky right after your

993
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: ability to be a solo goddamn soldier and not a

994
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: line we got damn nobody, And if that's by design

995
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: because of your traumas with whatever partnerships or things you've

996
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: had in the past. Now for me and a king,

997
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: a king is the reason decisions decisions is where it is.

998
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: If y'all listen to one of the first episodes I

999
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: share with y'all the history on that he came into

1000
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 2: a studio, thought we were stars, brought us to Chris Morrow,

1001
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: Chris Marrow brought us to Charlemagne, and here we are.

1002
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: I think there's just a respect and love for what

1003
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: we do.

1004
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: And we met in a work setting, so we didn't

1005
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: Our friendship has grown through working with each other and

1006
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: respecting each other right, So there's not like the personal

1007
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: elements of anything intimate, anything where there's family involved. I

1008
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: think when you add all of those, you know, layers

1009
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: of friendships and family and all of those expectations, it

1010
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: mondis up what your business expectations from someone is.

1011
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: So I think that's why we're able to exist.

1012
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree, and I think our backgrounds are similar.

1013
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 8: Where early on I had a corporate job. You know,

1014
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 8: people know that while I was doing but I just

1015
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 8: didn't have my laptop open.

1016
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: And but you want to tho it's crazy. What's crazy

1017
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: is we're partnering in this way, y'all. See I got

1018
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 2: a guess or not a co host right here. That's

1019
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: for a reason I'll never partner in that way again. Yeah,

1020
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: because in terms of again learning business, you go into

1021
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: a business, you both start the business, so it's a

1022
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty profit split, and then one person is

1023
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: doing ninety percent of the work and this person is

1024
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 2: still receiving fifty percent of profice splits. And in terms

1025
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: of changing that down the line, oh baby wants to

1026
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: you buy, you got to buy someone out. And then

1027
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: by that you have to uh figure out how much

1028
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: the business is worth you and then say the b

1029
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: This is where the couple.

1030
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: Ends you And some niggas don't want to be brought out.

1031
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: They want to continue being a part of a business.

1032
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: Right when it comes to doing the bare minimum, though,

1033
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: doing the bare minimum, which is why success look like

1034
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: ending something that I was no longer going to continue

1035
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: doing for you, from going corporate to now doing elements

1036
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: where you're writing books New York Times bestseller.

1037
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: You're doing all these things collaborations.

1038
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: What keeps you right now just collaborating and not partnering?

1039
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: Or would you partner?

1040
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: I don't think I would partner. I'm the type of

1041
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 3: person that definitely needs like an accountability partner, someone who

1042
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: can show up, someone who can kind of wrangle me,

1043
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: because again, adhd very neuro divers. Some days I'm on

1044
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: a thousands, some days I'm not. But no, I don't

1045
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: think I would partners as a co host, And to

1046
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 3: what you said, I don't think that I would be

1047
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 3: able to co host with just another woman as well.

1048
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 3: Wait wait, that's why you sat with them three niggas.

1049
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: I can't believe you said him three. I got one.

1050
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 3: You sat with the one that I ain't gonna name

1051
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: because he only wasn't in the studio because he's a brokie.

1052
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: He complained about the price.

1053
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 7: YouTube video coming up.

1054
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck you want to hate, and

1055
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: that's why y'all only had two ISOs for every ISO

1056
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: over there.

1057
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he must not have been able to afford.

1058
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: You know, it's a.

1059
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 3: Little pricey Okay, the other guy, you get what you

1060
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: paid for.

1061
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: You get what you paid for. I saw two ISOs,

1062
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: I said, nigga, that's four of y'all.

1063
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Y'all should have at least.

1064
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: Right.

1065
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: Oh damn, y'all sharing an eye. So sorry, I'm being

1066
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: petty now. And you know I could say I'm sorry,

1067
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: but I'm not. He ain't got nothing positive to say

1068
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: about any goddamn body. And then the other guy, she

1069
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: impo like, so you sitting with men? That makes sense

1070
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: for you?

1071
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: And then I do want to ask you a question

1072
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: because it wouldn't be right if I don't ask this question.

1073
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: So then do you want Mel's position?

1074
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. She that makes me feel like the audience

1075
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: is gonna be like, oh, she's gone. Yeah, well to

1076
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: that point, and the comment is, don't you guys think

1077
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: it would be smarter for me to be nice and

1078
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: complimentary to the motherfucker then be going on and bashing

1079
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: his head into every goddamn day.

1080
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: No, because Joe, Joe thrives off discourse.

1081
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: And that and that was that was the element that

1082
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: kept us as friends for a really long time.

1083
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, all he's looking for is a woman that

1084
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 2: could form sentences too, So you would be a good

1085
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: fit there.

1086
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, no, I don't. I don't have respect

1087
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: for everyone in that room as far as they're there

1088
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: mic and their verbal game. So I don't think that

1089
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: would work out.

1090
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: Okay, So, but if you were to finally create, because

1091
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: we're waiting for it, waiting for it, it wouldn't be

1092
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: with another woman.

1093
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: Look, yeah, hey, King has been on my ass for

1094
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 3: about ten years.

1095
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: I love another strong voice on a mic, so that

1096
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Speaker 1: I'm not the only.

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Speaker 7: Villain I think.

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Speaker 8: Maybe I think the void, the void of not having

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Speaker 8: your perspective voice.

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Speaker 6: Maybe that's an issue.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, like a person like Mandy and myself,

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Speaker 3: we're very unique and very rare where we can talk

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Speaker 3: our ship. But we could be objective haters in a way.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm not a hater at all.

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Speaker 1: I have I have objective opinions.

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Speaker 3: I'm an objective hater. I don't hate it. I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: a child of the hater.

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Speaker 2: Can we get real quick only because we haven't done yet?

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Speaker 2: What is the definition of a hater? Why don't sitting here.

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Speaker 3: An urban dictionary for that.

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Speaker 2: A hater is a person who greatly dislikes a specified

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Speaker 2: person or thing, a negative or critical person.

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Speaker 1: I don't say nothing wrong with that. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you don't see nothing wrong with being a hater.

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Speaker 3: I'm the biggest hater, shout out to Kendrick Lamar. I'm

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Speaker 3: we're in the same way. I don't see nothing wrong

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Speaker 3: with that. Should bring another definition? Bring another one up?

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Speaker 1: Look, she said, keep wa wait, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: chat AI with it.

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Speaker 2: A hater is someone who consistently expresses negative, critical, or

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Speaker 2: dismissive opinions about a person, group, or thing, often without

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Speaker 2: constructive reasoning.

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Speaker 3: That that that get.

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Speaker 1: Haters haters see. This is the other part.

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Speaker 2: Haters tend to criticize out of jealousy or bias, rather

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Speaker 2: than objective analysis, which is why you said you're an

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00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: objective hater. The term is commonly used in pop culture

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Speaker 2: to describe people who dislike or undermine other's success, creativity,

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Speaker 2: or achievement. See this definition definition. I hate this definition. Ever,

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Speaker 2: rough this definition when.

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Speaker 1: I say, when I say selective ignorance, it's an oxy

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Speaker 1: boy kind of you know, you pick and choose you

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Speaker 1: saying that objectiveative that's the name your pod, Objective Haters Club.

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Speaker 3: Well, actually that comes from star Star Troy Terraine Star

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Speaker 3: from Starbuck Wildy actually had a book called Objective Hater.

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Speaker 2: When I say, you align with everybody that got hat

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Speaker 2: like everybody evil.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's the Godfather for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Where this?

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Speaker 3: I remember when I was first getting in the game,

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Speaker 3: I was I was adored and I was loved in

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Speaker 3: the industry, and I remember your I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you want me to say your name, but your old

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Speaker 3: uh co host?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I believe her name not too Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: we ain't get no play out here.

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Speaker 3: When her first single came out, I thought I thought

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Speaker 3: she was a great singer. The first time I ever

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Speaker 3: heard her sing was she did New York with jay

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Speaker 3: Z right, and I was like, oh, ship, who is this?

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00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 3: And then her single dropped a few months after that

1152
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Speaker 3: or so, I don't know. Timeline gets blurred and I

1153
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: was on lying like oh, this shit is trash. It's

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00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 3: a horrible way to roll out for the girl. I

1155
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 3: think she's a great singer. This is not the way

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00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 3: to go. And I remember I got a call from

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00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 3: Lenny Ass like, Yo, what are you doing, and I

1158
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: was like, what do you mean? What am I doing?

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00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,479
Speaker 3: I'm stating my opinion. I think the girl is super dope.

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Speaker 3: She can sing her ass off. This is not the record.

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00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 3: And he's like, you not have to pick a side.

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00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: Do you want to be invited to the party. Do

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00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 3: you want to be in house or do you want

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00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: to be out the house, And he referenced Wendy Williams,

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00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 3: like Wendy doesn't come out and party with the masses

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00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: because she talks her shit. You have to And I

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00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 3: was like, god, damn, I can't be a friend of

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Speaker 3: the show, a friend of the industry or friend and

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Speaker 3: have my opinion. But you just can't.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the part that people don't know about me.

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00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: So I get invited everywhere, Yeah, I literally because I

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Speaker 2: don't hate people. I'm objective in my criticism. I have

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Speaker 2: constructive reasoning. I get invited to all the parties.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you guys, see how me and Mandy do

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Speaker 3: our thing? Is there a major difference in how we

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00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,479
Speaker 3: do our thing? Am I really that wrong?

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Speaker 1: You don't get invited to the parties all the parties,

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Speaker 1: but people are like me.

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00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 8: But y'all love her because when she's all hugs, and

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00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 8: that she don't carry herself in a position where she's

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00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 8: giving off that weird energy.

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Speaker 1: From Luckily, I've been doing this for eight years.

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00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 7: Coachre critic. We watched the ship we screwed.

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00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: I don't like upbringing. I share why I think this way?

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00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: What has triggered my opinion to be this?

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00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: And is there bias? Am I not human?

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: There may be bias in some of my takes, but

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00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: my opinions and how I date and how I view

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Speaker 2: music and the things I.

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Speaker 6: Like music movies.

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00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 7: You watch a movie, I don't like that.

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00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 6: I don't like how they ended the script.

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Speaker 3: You can say things without being a hater, right, yeah,

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00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: Well my days of parting is long gone. Like so

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00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: that's not even That's.

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00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: Why I just saw you in Miami.

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00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: Show you all your lions eight day birthday celebrate and

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00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: you parted all eight days. So we're not gonna sit

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Speaker 3: on here. So what I don't do is well, I

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00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 3: won't be at last laugh. I'm not gonna be at

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00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: last land Wall. She said, no, no, brother, Right, I'm

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00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: gonna do the yachts. I'm gonna do the private parties.

1203
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: The boat out for Sachi mansions, so you don't have

1204
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: levels the levels.

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: This is uh, what is what is it when you

1206
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: buy somebody? This is proximity privilege, proxicy proximity privilege.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just happened to have the same birthday as

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Speaker 3: exployd Money may Weather.

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Speaker 1: He crossed out his name and put birthday.

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Speaker 3: We have the same exact birthday. So that's great proximity there.

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Speaker 1: Now, I like to leave off with a thought. This

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Speaker 1: could be to the audience.

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: This could be to Jess, This could be to the

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00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: pod sphere, this could be to anybody where in terms

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Speaker 2: of the conversation, all of the conversations, all the layers

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Speaker 2: we have today, would you say, would be something you

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00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: lead them off with kind of like how it started?

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Speaker 2: Don't hate the player, hate the game?

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Speaker 1: What? What kind of what would you leave off with saying.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you got me there? I would say, uh, uh,

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Speaker 3: ship you could.

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Speaker 2: It could be It could be you talking to someone

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00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: who might be at a job who thinks that they're

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00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: owed something. It could be someone working at a job

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00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: who really might be struggling with going into work because.

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00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: They hate their boss. Like what little tidbit, what little gym?

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Speaker 3: I would just say, you gotta watch it back. You

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00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: gotta watch your front. Don't let your left hand know

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00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: what your right hand is doing.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen. Now I want to ask you

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00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: guys as well.

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00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: Is the corporate culture game to blame or is it

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: the player and not navigating it correctly. I always want

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: to know y'all's thoughts. Drop it in the comments below.

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00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: Rocky tell everybody where they can follow you.

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00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: Hear you delve into all of your tail things.

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Speaker 3: It's on Instagram. It's Rocky for Real kind of get all,

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01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: and it's Rocky Thunder and.

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Speaker 1: The really very twenty.

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01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 3: Very you know the thing. Once you get verified, they

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01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 3: won't allow you. They allow you to change the name

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01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 3: one time and then that's it said.

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Speaker 1: Just pay for that girl. You can change whatever you

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: want if you got there.

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Speaker 3: Podcast will be coming soon.

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01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: It's given CARDI b I'm annoyed. I've been coming for

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01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: three years now, bitch. We're we're all.

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01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: Three publishing deals with Simon and Schuster speak so I she's.

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01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: Busy, busy, my same publisher with you and the others,

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01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: just the researchers.

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01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: I'm feeling the vibe and I'm back.

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01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 6: Don't overthink you.

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01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: Do not overthink. I thought you was good.

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01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: The recent one was thank you.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to write that down because it was like,

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Speaker 2: don't do the right hand, left hand, pindrun.

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Speaker 3: Don't turn around, there we go. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was given the electric slide, the new one, you

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01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: know the step I look God damness.

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Speaker 2: If y'all are watching this on radio, listen, I'm half white,

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: no rhythm.

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01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: You only got to see that dance. If you are

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Speaker 1: watching us.

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Speaker 2: Full video is available on Patreon, go to patreon dot

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Speaker 2: com backslash Selective Ignorance, y'all already know where to find

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Speaker 2: us if you want to see here and debate our

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01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: takes on today's episode. Again, make sure you reach out

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01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: to us everywhere. You could drop comments under the page

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Speaker 2: on Instagram that's at Selective Underscore Ignorance or me full

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Speaker 2: core pumps everywhere. I'm sure once these clips get cut up,

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Speaker 2: y'all gonna respond in the clips.

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Speaker 1: To thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: You can hate it or you can love it. Either way,

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01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: are you choosing to be selectively ignorant or.

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01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: Are you choosing to be educated? See you next week.

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Speaker 4: That's a wrap.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for tuning in the Selective Ignorance of Mandy B

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Speaker 5: Selective Ignorance. It's executive produced by Mandy B and it's

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Speaker 5: a full Court Media studio production with lead producers Jason Rondriguez,

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Speaker 5: That's me.

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Speaker 4: And Aaron A. King.

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