1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: H ah beautiful. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to software radio, special operations, military 3 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys in the community, 4 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Army Ranger and Green Beret Jack Murphy Lasagna. Don't get 5 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: any on your Marine Scouts Sniper Jason Delgado is just 6 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: something we believe it. I associate that with taste, but 7 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: I like freaking chocolate chi may Why is it flavor? Boring? 8 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: The whole Lively board And now here's your co host 9 00:00:50,320 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: and producer of this operation, Ian Scott l soft rep 10 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: dot Com on Time on Target. The last time you 11 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: were on was the Jack Divine episode, which got a 12 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: tremendous response. I got like a bunch of tweets and 13 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: um emails saying that they've thought it was one of 14 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: the best episodes we've ever done, and I would agree. 15 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: Fascinating guy. Yeah, by far, probably one of the most intricate. 16 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: I guess, one of the one of the most intricate 17 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: guests we have. You know, like as far as you 18 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: know his hand or his um participation within a lot 19 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: of significant events within c I a history, so many 20 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: significant events. Yeah, just to think of all that history, 21 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: they're from the sixties up to now. Uh, you don't 22 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: meet people like that every day, so hopefully we've been 23 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the studio. It's soundable, awesome. Yeah, I really dug that. So, 24 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, for those who don't know the reason you 25 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: weren't here last episode, I know, your daughter or some 26 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: health issues going on. It's what's it's just a concern, 27 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: you know. We're just waiting for lab work, you know, 28 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: and nothing big. It's just you know, something awry, something 29 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: out of the out of the ordinary, and you know, 30 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: being the holiday season, we gotta wait a few days 31 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: before we get the lab results back. So that's you 32 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: got us on edge a bit. So as long as 33 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: she's okay, No, she's chilling. She looks like, you know, 34 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with her whatsoever, you know. But it's 35 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: not normal to us, you know. So and I'm not 36 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: gonna ask any more than that. Man. Yeah, not personal 37 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: life stuff. But I just want to mention it. It's 38 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: people are invested in us, just as people I feel 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: like they you know, sometimes I forget if it's like 40 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: this is what they listen to when their commute to work. Yeah, 41 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: and maybe they're going through something similar. Yeah, yeah, I know. 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: I totally get it. So you know, any parent out 43 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: there knows when you know something happens to a child 44 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: or you know something strange is going on, you know, 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: you kind of start running a running wild you know, 46 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: in the mind, and you know, you start thinking about 47 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: all these different diagnosis and stuff like that. So it's 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: it's nuts. So yeah, it's hard not to be paranoid. 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: You know, I realized sometimes invested people are and just 50 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: you as a radio personality when or a podcast host. Um, 51 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm no longer doing Appetite for Distortion my 52 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: side podcast, because I have have a bunch of other projects 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I talked about how early January I 54 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: stepped away from doing a bunch of shows. It was 55 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: going through a very serious depression and have been back 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: to myself for a very long time now. Um, but 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: I got all these tweets about like, oh, I relate 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: to the same thing, and like you forget these people 59 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: feel like they know you, which is cool, and I 60 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: could totally relate to me and just being like a 61 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Howard Stern fan. I just saw Artie Lang's most recent 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: arrest for all these bags of heroin and it's like shit, 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it's hard to break. You know, it's 64 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: heartbreaking something so talented, it's so but you know, it's 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: like that downward spiral when some people just get caught 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: up in that and they're using those substances to kind 67 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: of like desensitize themselves to this tremendous you know, pain 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: or whatever they're holding, you know, and it's it's it's 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: hard when you admire the individual going through this and 70 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: you have to sit back on the sidelines and watch 71 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: because you know what, you can bring a horse to water, 72 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: but you can't force him to drink right. And you 73 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: can try to get you know, your best friend or 74 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: your your your loved one, your family member, all this help, 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: but the truth is if they don't want them, they 76 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: don't want to help themselves. You just gotta sit back 77 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: and watch him. You know. It's crazy, it's painful, and 78 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: I get it, man, and people want to relate to 79 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And that's why it's cool when 80 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: we have people like Nick Irving, who was really um 81 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: candid about getting through all that in the most recent podcast. 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: I felt like, I think that's you know, in part 83 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: of what we do as far as you know, special ops, 84 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, news and stuff like that. I think we 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: bring more of reality to our audience because we have 86 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: guys like freaking Steve Ralston, you know, and and wow, 87 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: this is one of the realist dudes I've ever met 88 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: in my life. And people hear his story and how 89 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: resilient he is, and you know how he continues to 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: wake up and strive to be better daily considering all 91 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: that stuff he's been through. If he can get through 92 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: that ship, or you know, Nick could get through the 93 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: ship he's going through, you know, vice versa. Wow, man, 94 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: like anyone could do anything, you just gotta you know 95 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: that sometimes you just need that little push that and 96 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: sometimes the stories is what does it for our audience. 97 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm cool man, if you take it 98 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: as that, I appreciate that more than you're coming on 99 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: here and just trying to you know, have a good 100 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: laugh or so yeah. Yeah, and inspires people to get 101 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: off their ass and and make something themselves. Um alright, 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: So first thing I was gonna mention Jack Murphy's show. 103 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: This isn't like a paid live read or anything. I 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: just want to mention it because I figure our audience 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: wants to hear about it. Um is test was Death 106 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: Ray a Murder de Classified and the premiers January second, 107 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: at ten pm on the Discovery Channel. I think that's 108 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: ten pm Eastern. Check your local listings, of course. But 109 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: Jack will be back in January. That's what he's been 110 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: up to, recording on Long Island, recording everywhere, and I'm 111 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: just like to see it. Man, It's cool to see 112 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: him just doing something way different than what he does 113 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 1: here when we're doing big things. Well, when people already Tesla, 114 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: they're like, what does this have to do with Special Forces? 115 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: And the answer, but exactly doesn't have to, you know 116 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, Okay, there's so many journalists 117 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: with like a military background. You know, just because you 118 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: know they have a military background, doesn't mean they have 119 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: to stay within that you know area, that field, you know, 120 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: the brandchild do other things. And Jack is super intellectual, dude, man, 121 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, I agree, Like Terry Shepherd has 122 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: done so much TV and and some people know Terry 123 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Shepherd more from Shark Week than from being in Special Forces, 124 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: and you know, and that's what we gotta explained. Um, 125 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: all right, So if Curtis Albert's coming on, uh, really 126 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: awesome article written about him by Luke Ryan. So I'm 127 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: excited to get into that. Um, we have some emails. 128 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: We're getting to him in a little bit, so i'll 129 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: see what we can get to. We don't get to, 130 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: we'll do in the outro. But every now and again 131 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: i'll mention, like a quick correction or someone who takes 132 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: issue with something that we said, that type of thing. 133 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: And I was treating common and especially with me because 134 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I don't know it happens to me. 135 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: So I remember you've mentioned it a couple of times 136 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: on the show, the whole fossil fuels thing, and I 137 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: remember saying to you it was like, I don't know 138 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: enough about this, but I'm not sure if you're completely correct. Um. 139 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: So Michelle B, who actually comments on a lot of 140 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: our articles on softwarep dot com, UM wrote a comment, 141 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: and to be honest, I think that's a long comment. 142 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: She seems to know this subject way better than both 143 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: of us. Oh damn, what is that thing? So, just 144 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: judging by reading this, she seems to know our alright. 145 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: So sounds like an excellent book. Which she's talking about, 146 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: Scott Houston, because this is the ore the episode you 147 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: mentioned it on That's one of my favorite things about 148 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: this site is the interviews you guys do that let 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: us know some of the background of so many interesting 150 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: authors of their books. Jason. Unfortunately, oil isn't a renewable 151 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: resource on a human time scale yet. Yes, it is continually, 152 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: continually being made, but it takes a few hundred thousand 153 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: years to bake under ideal conditions, and most of the 154 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: really good stuff comes from the cre Cretaceous. Hopefully I'm 155 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: saying that right. I think post Jurassic Park around one 156 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: ish million years ago, back when the temperatures were under 157 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: four degrees celsius warmer or four degrees celsius warmer, and 158 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: there were plenty There was plenty of CEO two in 159 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: the atmosphere, and there was much more abundant plant and 160 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: marine life that breathed deeply of that CEO two, and 161 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: after a happy life, was quickly buried in an anox 162 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: annoxius environments instead of decaying and releasing their CEO two 163 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: back into the atmosphere. Not a coincidence. But that said, 164 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: there's enough of it in sufficient sufficient quantities, and our 165 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: technology keeps advanced and quickly enough to access new reservoirs 166 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: that we are unlikely to run out in our lifetime, 167 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: despite the dire predictions of the nineteen seventies and nineteen 168 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: eighties two thousands, which yeah, we're all familiar with that. 169 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: Hopefully in the meantime, green technology will have sufficient time 170 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: to make great strides forward because it still falls far, 171 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: far short of the benefits that fossil fuels provide. And 172 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: bless those wonderful truckers and all they do to bring 173 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: us bundles of happiness and joy and uh so many 174 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: different forms. So I guess that's the explanation. That was awesome, 175 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Michelle. That was serious, and I'm sure our 176 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: readers would appreciate a little insight on to one of 177 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: the subjects we cover or talk about here at least. 178 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: And now I just learned. Now you know, I ain't 179 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: gonna be talking crap no more. Well, you know, And 180 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: it's one of those things. I we have another email 181 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: that kind of criticizes me, and I'll get into that 182 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: and you, I'll read anything as long as you're not 183 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: an asshole that which I feel these people were. Um, 184 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: But if I don't know the answer to something, I'm 185 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: not going to pretend like I know more than you, 186 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: because I the CEO two stuff. All that I could 187 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: say is what I do know is climate change is 188 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: a real thing. It's absolutely happening. What I'm not completely 189 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: sold on is, for one, how much of it is 190 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: due to human impact? We I don't think we really know. 191 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: And also what changes in policy would really make a difference, 192 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: because when I hear about cap and trade and all 193 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: that stuff, I mean just logically, I think to myself, 194 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: all right, we might go on to these um regulations, 195 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: but as China is India, who is a far bigger 196 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: population than us, and if we start, you know, burning 197 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: west carbon into the atmosphere, is it really going to 198 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: make that much of a difference when you have India 199 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: and China probably doing whatever the all they want. That's 200 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: just my fake on it. Yeah, And we get criticized 201 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: so much for you know, our standard e p A standards, 202 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: but I think we have like the highest EPA standards 203 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: you know the world. Honestly, you go to other countries, 204 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, granted you have some that are you know, 205 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: super awesome, like you know, whatever, Germany, you know, Canada. 206 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: The criticism I always here is like that we didn't 207 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: sign onto the Kyoto Protocol. But what what what what's in? 208 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: What's in that though? What are out what? What? What 209 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: are our obligations to that? And is it beneficial to us? 210 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Because we're doing the best 211 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: we can over here. And I know it's a global issue, 212 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: but if we have to sign on to an agreement 213 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: yet we're the only ones, you know, fulfilling our end 214 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: of the agreement and no one else is, then that's 215 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: just a waste, like, you know, unless someone could guarantee 216 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: that these other countries like India, which have the highest, 217 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, the highest rates of pollution you know, in 218 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: the world. That's a lot of people over there, you know, 219 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: and if they're not going to hold their end of 220 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: the bargain up, why should we? So, you know, why 221 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: you even get involved in something like that. Let's just 222 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: worry about what we can, you know. Yeah, it goes 223 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: to that saying, of course that it is a global issue. 224 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: And I think for like Americans a lot of time, 225 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: it's out of sight, out of mind thing. I mean, 226 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: you see all this stuff, some of the stuff that 227 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: pops up on Facebook, but like you think to yourself, 228 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, we were cycled, we do all this great stuff. 229 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: But then you realize some of the stuff we were 230 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: cycle is sent to these poorer countries where they're not 231 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: really recycling it. And you see like rivers and streams 232 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: filled with gatorade bottles, well that's also that's also their 233 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: their trash as well, you know, but it's just a 234 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: shame to see, man. And honestly it's you know, in 235 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: like Afghanistan, I've seen or even in Iraq, I've pricing 236 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: it more over there. We tried putting stuff darting ah, 237 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: my last deploy so crazy. We tried starting some type 238 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: of sanitation program over there where we were putting fifty 239 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: gallon drums on the corner. And then we like got 240 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: this like team of Iraqis to have a bunch of 241 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: trucks and you know, get them to like work like 242 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, you know, sanitation department a sanitation great idea, right, 243 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: especially if you're higher of like, oh man, we're gonna 244 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: take care of this trash issue. And what they were 245 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: thinking was, Okay, if we had a place for them 246 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: to deposit their trash, thank you. Um, if we had 247 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: a place for them to deposit their trash, maybe there 248 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: wouldn't be as much trash on the side of the 249 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: street where they can conceal you know, I E. D 250 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: s and stuff like that, but they started using the 251 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: trash cans to hide E s. Jeez. Yeah, what I 252 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say is the whole thing just kind of 253 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: makes me sad because it's like, I don't know, just 254 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: on on a level of us being humans with this earth, 255 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: like we're giving this one planet to live on, and 256 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: it's like, why did why don't we have to fuck 257 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: it out? It's it's crazy. I wish that there was 258 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: there were easy solutions, but not every not everyone is 259 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: is socially a where like that. You know, like other 260 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: there's other countries out there where they're just so into themselves, 261 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: into their direct immediate family, their tribe there. They don't 262 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: think globally. You know a lot of us in America 263 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: don't either. That's fine, but but our government does, you understand, 264 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: So many of us can walk around aimlessly, but our 265 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: government is you know, at least talking about it, whether 266 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: it's the right thing or not. Whatever they put forth 267 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: as far as you know, passing bills when it when 268 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, concerning you know, emissions and all this stuff. 269 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: You know, they're doing that we can be we can 270 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: be mindless about it. But you go to other countries, 271 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: they're not doing that. I know what I would agree, 272 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: but you know, and this will be an issue that 273 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: we'll get into after the interview. But it was mentioned 274 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: how like climate change is not brought up in in 275 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: what Trump has been talking about in terms of new 276 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: strategy um and Trump has also been on the record 277 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: saying a lot of like really crazy pseudo science ship 278 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: about climate change. Like I am not someone who believes 279 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: we need to curb our curb our our entire lifestyle 280 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: to combat this problem. However, it is a problem because 281 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: it is happening. And when I hear it's causing effect. 282 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: But when I hear the current presidents say that it's 283 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: conspiracy made by the Chinese, like, it's a little because 284 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't care about none of that. 285 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: But you know, all I know is it's causing effect. 286 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: We're putting something out there. Obviously there's gonna be repercussions 287 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: to what we're doing, especially when it comes to the 288 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: emission and stuff like that. We're smart now, we have 289 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: enough scientific evidence to suggest that in mass quantities. Of course, 290 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: we're going to start degrading you know, our our O 291 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: zone or you know whatever. And so whether we can 292 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, actually hone down a number and consider it 293 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: significant or not, that's I'm completely on the same end, 294 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't think we can 295 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: do that, but we know we're doing something to it. 296 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: And the climate has been changing before there was ever humans, 297 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: before there was ever a car. Yeah, there was the 298 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: ice age. So I'm I'm actually in agreement with you. 299 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm not for all these policies like cap and trade, However, 300 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: I think it should go without saying, like I would 301 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: like to see a president who could at least take 302 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: this issue seriously and and and but look what they do. 303 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: But look what they do politically. The problem is what 304 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: they do politically is is they throw money at the problem, 305 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: and sometimes that that destabilizes our own economy in the 306 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: time and for the time being, not not for the future. 307 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: My my issue is not that it's it's a rhetoric issue, 308 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying. But rhetoric or not. The 309 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: only thing a president could really do in the span 310 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: of four years, considering he has resistance on the hill, 311 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: the only thing he could really do is just signed 312 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: into legislation and move money around. Yeah, but so this 313 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: is my issue. The president is a figurehead, so what 314 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna say is going to resonate. And it's the 315 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: same way as people criticize Barack Obama. What I'm talking about. 316 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: Let me just finish this. People criticize Barack Obama for 317 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: not using the words as Wama terrorism, and they said, 318 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: why don't you call it what it is? So on 319 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: the same on the same level with this current president, 320 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: why can't you say climate change is a real issue, 321 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: it's happening, and maybe you have a different stance on 322 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: how to agree with and how The biggest problem with 323 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: this guy is, you know, since day one is his 324 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: speeches is a rhetoric. That's it called things like you 325 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: see it like, I don't totally write it off. I 326 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: completely get why people were mad at Barack Obama when 327 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: the Nadallasan situation happened and he called it workplace violence. 328 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Is that a change in policy? No, But his rhetoric matters. 329 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I think the president's rhetoric matters. So no matter it's 330 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: climate change of its terrorism, I don't care, you know. So, 331 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so I thought that was an interesting one. Uh, 332 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a short intro, but we do 333 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: have emails to get to, we do have news to 334 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: get to. But first let's get to Curtis Alberts. So 335 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: joining us for the first time on Software Radio Curtis Alberts, 336 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: which was suggested to me by Luke Ryan. And if 337 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: you're a reader of the site, you may have seen 338 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: Luke's article about Curtick Curtis which is called the American 339 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Dream and a foster kid turned Ranger. It's a really 340 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: fascinating article. I mean, it's short, but that's why it's 341 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: cool that we'll be able to go more in depth 342 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: and and get to hear your whole story. Um, the 343 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: first thing I was wondering. Luke is a fellow Army 344 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: ranger now copy editor and writer on the site. Did 345 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: you serve with Luke? I didn't, Unfortunately, I think Luke. 346 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: I think Luke joined battalion maybe like a year or 347 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: two after I left, I want to say, but I'm 348 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: not sure, but yeah, but I did. Unfortunately I didn't 349 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: get to serve with Luke. I would have loved to, 350 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: but I didn't. Yeah, And and I loved what he 351 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: wrote about you. So I'm excited to to hear all 352 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: about it before we get into your whole story, which 353 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: is fascinating. And it's like Jason and I were talking 354 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: prior about resilience, and I think your story is definitely 355 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: one of resilience. But when did you join the army? 356 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: I joined the Army in two thousand four, so it 357 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: was obviously a long time ago and you're still serving. No. Well, 358 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: actually I got out well when I left the Ranger 359 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: regime and I I left him like two thousand and seven, 360 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: December January two seven, and then I re enlisted eleven 361 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: days later up until um twenty yeah, and then that's 362 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: when I officially got out, So like a few years ago, 363 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: like four or five years ago, I got out. Very cool. 364 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: So the first thing to get into, of course, is 365 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: just your story in general. And like I said, Luke's 366 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: article is only a few paragraphs long, and reading it, 367 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: my feeling was there has to be way more to this. 368 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: So it's cool to be able to have you on 369 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: with no time constraints. So I'll let you have the 370 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: floor on just uh growing up and having a really 371 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: rough childhood and letting the audience know all about that background, 372 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: all right, thank you so much. UM. So, I mean 373 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a little bit difficult for me, 374 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: of course to talk about UM. And I'll try really 375 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: to stay on topic here because I you know, sometimes 376 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: I I go off on a tangent. Well that's the 377 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: great thing about the podcast though we don't have time limits. 378 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: We don't have you know, this isn't like doing in 379 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: one of these media appearances like you've done Jason on 380 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: Fox News or something where it's so short, like I'd 381 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: love to hear the full story. Oh thank god. Okay, 382 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I first want to start out by saying, um, 383 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, when people think of of of of of 384 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: abuse or torture or being um, pretty much psychologically pummeled. Um, 385 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: it's hard for them to to really put that in 386 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: perspective unless they've actually lived it. Okay. So for so 387 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: from my point of view, everything that I tell you 388 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: guys tonight, and everything that I tell your listeners is 389 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: is a little bit it's traumatic for me, and and 390 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I can provide enough detail to where 391 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: you can, you know, sort of put yourself in my shoes. UM. 392 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: So it all starts out I was born in southeast Minneapolis, 393 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, if you don't know, that's in Minnesota. And 394 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: my you know, biological mother, I don't call her by 395 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: her name. Um. And there's a reason for that, a 396 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: personal reason, and we'll probably discuss it later. But my 397 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: biological mother was addicted to crack, right. She she was 398 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: addicted to alcohol. She spent days to almost weeks at 399 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: a time just outside partying with the can I swear 400 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: in the show right with the douce bag she called 401 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: her friends, right, and then me and my sister and 402 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: my brother. At the time, I was six years old, 403 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: my sister was four, and my brother was eight, you know, 404 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: so we're generally two years apart. Um. She would lock 405 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: us in this apartment, this two bedroom apartment in southeast Minneapolis, 406 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: alone for days, two weeks at a time while she 407 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: went out and she parted. When she came back. That 408 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: was the time that me and my sister my brother 409 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: could actually venture outside of the apartment, you know, like 410 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: there would be days or weeks where we would never 411 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: even see the sun. Um. And you know, looking back 412 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: right now, I kind of think, well, you know, our 413 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: biological or my biological mother wanted to protect us from 414 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, the violence that was going on in the neighborhood. Um, 415 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: and that's why she locked us in there. But but anyway, 416 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: after she came back and she, you know, she unlocked 417 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: the door, we were able to go outside and and 418 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, dig through the garbage cans and the dumpsters 419 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: for food. I remember. I remember going to my neighbor's house, 420 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: or our neighbor's house and looking in their trash can 421 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: and finding, you know, a half eaten McDonald's cheeseburgers and 422 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: thinking nothing of it because I was so hungry. I 423 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: just took this, you know, this really huge bite out 424 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: of it, and you know, I could feel something crawling 425 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: around in my mouth, and I could smell that the 426 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: burger didn't actually smell like you know, your typical McDonald's cheeseburger. 427 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: And I opened up, opened it up, and sure enough, 428 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, it was soaked with maggots. When I when 429 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: I say soaked with maggots, there were They were like 430 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: at least a hundred maggots in there, you know, but 431 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: I didn't care. That's how hungry I was. And so 432 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: after a few years of living like this, Um, it 433 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: was me, you know that called the police and I said, 434 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, well, our mom's not feeding us. And then 435 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: you know, like I honestly don't remember how long it took, 436 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: but like a few minutes later, an hour later, you know, 437 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: the Minneapolis police came over. And at that point, you know, 438 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: our my biological mom was sleeping, because that's typically how 439 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: it was. You know, she'd be out for a few 440 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: days or a week, and then she would come back 441 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: stoned or you know, high, and then she would just 442 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: go to sleep for a couple of days. Um, she 443 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't even say hi to us, by the way, acknowledge us. 444 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: And so when you know, the police came in, they 445 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: went immediately to well, they saw us first, and then 446 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: they went immediately to her room and they you know, 447 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: they noticed crack paraphernalia and you know, um other other 448 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: types of drivers kind of laying around, and they were 449 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, they tried to wake her, and then when 450 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: they finally woke her, you know, she tried to run 451 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: out of the apartment, right, she tried to escape, and 452 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: so you know, they obviously they caught her and they 453 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: arrested her and they put her in the cop car 454 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: and then me, my sister, and my brother were taken 455 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: to the Minneapolis UM Health and Welfare UH section of 456 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: the Minneapolis Police Department. And then that's when they were like, well, 457 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: if those kids would have stayed in there for another week, 458 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: they would have been dead, you know. And and when 459 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: I read all of these records back now, I'm just like, wow, 460 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: that's that's crazy, you know, like I we could have 461 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: died if we would have stayed there for a week 462 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: because we were so malneverished. And and then you know, 463 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: after that portion, um, me and my sister and my 464 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: brother were introduced into foster care. And and people probably 465 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: right now like if I say this, and I am 466 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: just being honest, Okay, so I'm I'm I'm a black man, right, 467 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: And everybody has this idea that racism is more or 468 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: less you know, if you're like, you know, like a 469 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: white person, or someone else comes up to you and 470 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: they call you, you know, a nigger or something like that. 471 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: You know, like like we we all defined racism by 472 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 1: the skin color, somebody saying something negative because of your 473 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: skin color. Right. But I was introduced into pretty much, 474 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: well primarily black foster homes, So like nt nine percent 475 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: of all my foster homes were black, and me and 476 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: my sister face the most brutal racism that you could 477 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: possibly imagine. I mean, we were. I mean, I can't 478 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: even began to like explain to you the abuse. I 479 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: mean it was. It was every type of abuse you 480 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: could think of, you know, Um, it was sexual, it 481 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: was it was physical, it was emotional. Right, So we 482 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: went through almost a decade and a half of abuse 483 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: of foster care. And you know, we we never had 484 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: people tell us that, hey, I love you, I care 485 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: about you. You're important to me. You know, we never 486 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: had that. So it's so that's what I mean. We 487 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: just a backtrack though, when you were saying, you know 488 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: that you've experienced racism through that, I'm the only thing 489 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm confused with you. You were saying you brought into 490 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: black foster homes and you're black yourself. So who what 491 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: was the racism aspect? Well, I mean, the way I 492 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: could kind of frame the scenarios is like, like, when 493 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: we think about racism, what do we normally think about, 494 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean besides lynching, I mean, because this isn't the 495 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: Jim crowl era. But but but right now, in the 496 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: twenty one century, we think about racism as being um, 497 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, name calling, right, name calling. Um. You know, 498 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: maybe you don't um, maybe you don't get rights or 499 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: maybe you know certain privileges aren't open to you primarily 500 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: because of your skin color. Right, But let's focus on 501 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: the name calling. For example, like in my foster homes, Um, 502 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: the foster parents always referred to us as niggers. It 503 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: was completely irrelevant whether or not they were black or not. Okay, 504 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: so most of them were black. But when they called 505 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: us niggers, like, they didn't say, oh, well, I'm black too, 506 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: so by default I'm also a nigger. Right, And it 507 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: wasn't that, but but they always made it seem like 508 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: me and my sister and my brother were you know, 509 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: subhuman more or less like subterranean. You know. They would 510 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: always tell us things like, oh, you're black, so therefore 511 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: you're a nigger, so therefore I'm going to treat you 512 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: like you're a piece of ship. Do you know what 513 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean? I mean, it's it's I I mean, I 514 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: you know, I guess it can go back to someone 515 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: who was victimized, you know, then victimizing another person, you know, 516 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: because they probably guessing that they probably experienced racism through 517 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: the hands of someone else. You know if if that's 518 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: just how they looked down at people that were of 519 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: the same skin color, I mean differ, I mean, but yeah, yeah, 520 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: but I'm also I'm also a white guy, you know 521 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, you guys are both minorities. Yeah, I 522 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: mean to go from one, like you said it, to 523 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: go from one terrible situation into a situation where, you know, 524 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: a very minimum, you know, they only had one individual 525 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: mistreating them in the previous situation, and then now in 526 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: the new situation, you've got multiple individuals on a consistent 527 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, barrage of verbal abuse. And it's crazy, you know, 528 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: to even like think about it, like it's like out 529 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: of the frying pan into the fire kind of thing. Well, 530 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: exactly fired a frying pan, I guess in this situation. Yeah, 531 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: but it's but it was a consistent I mean, it 532 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: wasn't just the N word. I mean, it was it 533 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: was just ultimately the way they treated you. They they 534 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: somehow rationalized that this idea that you are a nigger 535 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: primarily because of your skin color, but well additionally it's 536 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: also because of your history. You come from a broken home, right, 537 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: and they didn't just use your history to to to 538 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: I mean to be racist towards you, it's more well, 539 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, because of your history and because of who 540 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: you are, you're going to end up like this, Like 541 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to put any energy into raising you. 542 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to show you how life should be 543 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, lived or or I don't. I'm not going 544 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: to show you how to do things and how to 545 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: sort of you know, you think it was their version 546 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: of tough love, just absolutely not. If tough love means 547 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: being socially isolated for weeks, two months at a time, 548 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: if it means being denied hygiene products, if it means 549 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: being whipped right for for for stupid reasons like looking 550 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: out of the window. Me and my sister were never 551 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: allowed to look out of the window. We were never 552 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: allowed to eat actual food. You know, Like if if that, 553 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: if that's their version of tough love, then I'm confused. 554 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: That's what we're missing. We were missing that extra part, 555 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, because you just know it's cool now we 556 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: get it, you know, and you know what I experienced, 557 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: like coming up, you know, some of my friends would 558 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: be a forced kids. You know, they'll just you know, 559 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: get to hang out every now and then and they'll 560 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: tell the stories and what I gathered. A majority of 561 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: the individuals I get into the foster parenting program. I 562 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: mean they're significant gains there. You know, you get paid 563 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: I guess from uh, you know whatever, the municipality or 564 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: the local government or whatever. You get paid somewhere for 565 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, each child you foster, So it becomes like 566 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, a salary almost, you know. In course, the 567 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: truth is you're you're really not giving these kids with 568 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: their basic needs. You're just collecting that check and telling 569 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: them to fend on themselves, you know, of course, But 570 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: do you also know that the more problems, the more 571 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: psychological or you know, like the more disability that child has, 572 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: the more money the foster parents get aweso. Right. So, 573 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: so in my situation, and I'm sure it's with other 574 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: people too, right, But in my situation, the foster parents 575 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 1: kept engineering reasons why we were so we had so 576 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: many problems. They kept making them up right, and the 577 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: social workers would say, oh, okay, they have more problems, 578 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: We're going to give you more resources and more money 579 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: to take care of that right now. And I'll give 580 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: you a perfect example, perfect example. So our foster mothers, 581 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: they didn't believe in buying us anything, right, So like, 582 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: for example, socks, like socks, it's pretty easy. Socks aren't 583 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: really expensive. But our father, our foster parents didn't want 584 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: to buy us socks. So when I was at school 585 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: and I was going to gym class, and you know, 586 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: I took off my shoes and my gym teacher was like, hey, Curtis, 587 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, why do you have holes in your socks? 588 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: You know? And I was I was embarrassed, obviously, and 589 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: I tried to explain to him why okay, and my 590 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: gym teacher would then go ahead and go to my 591 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: my my social worker and ask, well, you know, Curtis 592 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: or you know, he would have an inquiry and then 593 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: he would ask. He would be like, well, Curtis comes 594 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: to school and he always has holes in his socks. 595 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: He's you know, it's been a whole year and he 596 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: hasn't had socks without holes. And then the social worker 597 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: would say, well, let me ask his foster mother, right 598 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: she he or she would ask my foster mother, and 599 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: my foster mother would say, well, the reason Curtis has 600 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: holes in his socks is because he eats holes in 601 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: his socks. That that's exactly what she said. He nibbles 602 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: holes in his socks. And now the foster the social 603 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: workers would be like, oh, that's interesting. It sounds like 604 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: Curtis needs more medication, he needs more therapy. Right. They 605 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't investigate, They wouldn't investigate. How bizarre, uh, you know whatever. 606 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: So the foster parents said, how bizarre that sounded. They 607 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: would then go back and tell the teacher, well, you know, 608 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: Curtis has psychological issues of which we are currently dealing with. 609 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: We're going through a process of behavior modification. You know, 610 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: eventually he'll be normal. And then the teacher will be like, oh, okay, 611 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: but but but this is the exact scenarial for so 612 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: many different things. That's exactly what happened. So when you 613 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: say that that's how they were handling it. Did they 614 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: have you on on a bunch of drugs that you 615 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: didn't need to be using? Absolutely? I mean it was 616 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: it was. There was always increase. There wasn't always there 617 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: was always an increase of a dosage of something. It 618 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: was either paxel or some other um um like anti 619 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: anxiety medication. Like because it was always like I would 620 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: tell the social workers what was really going on. I 621 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: would say, well, look um, you know we're We're not 622 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm not stealing food for example, that was a big thing. Right, 623 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: So the question is can you can you still food 624 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: in your own home? Can you guys answer that, I'm 625 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: gonna say now, I mean logically no, you can't write correct. 626 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: But in my foster home, because me and my sister 627 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: weren't eating so much, right, they weren't feeding us so much. 628 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, we had to go 629 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: and sort of scavenge for food. Right, So the you know, 630 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: the foster mom would say, she would tell the social workers, well, 631 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're stilling food. I don't understand I 632 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: feed them, right, So those are the creek the key words. 633 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: We feed them, but yet they still food. So then 634 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: when the social workers are asking, well, the you know, 635 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: the you know these the kids say that they're they're 636 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: always hungry and they're not getting enough food. Then the 637 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: foster parents will say, we feed them, right, But the 638 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: social workers don't ask how much and how often? Right, So, 639 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: so the truth is kind of the truth is there, 640 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: and there's no reason for them to investigate more. So, 641 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: then when the foster parents say, well, they still food, 642 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: the social workers have no other choice but to say, well, okay, 643 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: this is awkward behavior. You're we're gonna go ahead and 644 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: increase you know, his paxe dosage or whatnot. We're going 645 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: to try a different medication. We might increase the therapy 646 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: sessions from one, you know, one time a week to 647 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: two and see how that goes. But nothing ever gets better, right, 648 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's I would I would also think it's 649 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: it would get worse if you're on drugs that you 650 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: really don't need to be on. That's exactly how it 651 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: was there. There. You get to a point eventually where 652 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: you're you're you're constantly being i would say drugged, and 653 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: you're constantly going through, like you know, therapy sessions that 654 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: you don't really need. That you just ultimately give up. 655 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: There's there's no reason, there's no reason for you to 656 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: continue because you lost, and you acknowledge that you lost. Um, 657 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: because no one's going to help you. No one wants 658 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: to help you. You understand that the situation that you're 659 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: in is is untenable. UM. It doesn't matter what you 660 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: say or how often you tell the truth, it's going 661 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: to go against you. So the only the only option 662 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: really is to shut down and just take it and 663 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: just hope one day that like you know, you can 664 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: you can get out of it alive, or you can 665 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, sort of move on, if that makes sense. 666 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: So at what point did this start to turn around 667 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: for you? Because in the article we hear about you know, 668 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: someone being there for you and then you eventually going 669 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: on to join the army. Well, eventually I found Jan, 670 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: and I mean it was after my The article doesn't 671 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: really mention, um, how many times I was homeless, but 672 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: I was homeless twice and after the second time, um, 673 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: I managed to find you know, Jan, who who pretty 674 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: much help me sort of get back on my feet, 675 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: you know, help me find a reason to sort of 676 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: move forward and to live, because I'm pretty sure when 677 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't well I felt when I was in homeless 678 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: and after coming out of foster care, I felt like, 679 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, the like the strongest feeling of forlorn you 680 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: could possibly feel. I felt so hopeless, and you know, 681 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: she brought me back on track, you know, by sort 682 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: of showing me, um, how things could be, you know, 683 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: how the world and some respects really was, by showing 684 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: me some amount of emotion, some amount of love, you know, 685 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: and and and and she cared for me. And so 686 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: that's that's when I was like, you know what I'm 687 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna join the military, the military of the Army. 688 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: I've wanted to do it for so long and now 689 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: I have sort of that support, that support structure to 690 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: move forward in that. Um. So, so was Jen a 691 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: foster parent. No, she wasn't. She was just pretty much 692 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: someone who found me on the street. Got you Wow. 693 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing people out there. Um, you know, 694 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: that's just can you elaborate when she just found you 695 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: on the street? Well, like, I'm sorry, I'm just I'm 696 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: just curious. No, no, no, Well I was homeless and 697 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: she was kind of walking by and she said, hey, 698 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: I see you there. You look homeless. Is there anything 699 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: I can do for you? And I kind of jokingly said, well, 700 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: is there any way I can you know, you can 701 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: give me a house and she laughed and then like 702 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: from there she was like, no, but you can come 703 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: and stay with me. And then yeah, I was like, okay, 704 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: this is unreal. Um, are you sure? And then she 705 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: was like you know, she seriously said yeah, sure, why not? 706 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: And then from that moment that I lived with her 707 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: we baked cookies together, we like when shopping together. It 708 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 1: was really incredible. Yeah, I was just gonna say, um, 709 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: it's amazing that that there's people who do that, because, 710 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, walking around New York City where I am 711 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: with Jason, like she homeless people all the time, this 712 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: opioid epidemic and rowin and all that. It's it's just 713 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: all over the place. And I would like to think 714 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: of myself as like a good caring person. But am 715 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: I going to bring any of them into my home? No? 716 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, so I think it's amazing that there's someone 717 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: that would do that for you, because it seems like 718 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: this one person made such an impact that that you're 719 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: that's the reason you're talking to us right now, and 720 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: you're doing great things. Yeah. And I always ask myself 721 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: that question. I mean, you know, we we always in society, 722 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: like how do we define ourselves as a society? I mean, 723 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: like I I I always when I allan, whenever I 724 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: see homeless people on the street or people that don't 725 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: have the means to succeed, you know, I always try 726 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: to force myself to not stereotype them, you know, because 727 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: they could have gone through god knows what to get 728 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: where they are, you know what I mean. And so 729 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: I think it's really really important to just automatically help people, 730 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: Like if you can't offer them a home because you 731 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: feel unsafe, and give them something man get you know, hope. 732 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: If you can give a person hope, you could change 733 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: their entire life. Doesn't have to be money, it doesn't 734 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: have to be you know, um like anything materialistic, but 735 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: just just hope. I hope that tomorrow could be better. 736 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: That's that's really all I needed. And that's yeah. And 737 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: so how did this lead to you joining the army? 738 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: And and I want to hear that whole story. So 739 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: joining the army for me was you know, I had 740 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: a strong interest in joining the military, but initially it 741 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: wasn't because I wanted to fight for my country. Um. 742 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: When I when I started out, I was like, well, 743 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, if I get deployed, I could be killed. 744 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: To be let's I'm going to be completely honest that 745 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to happen. I was more I had. 746 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: I was at a point in my life where I 747 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: was like, well, this sucks. I can't continue anymore. I'm alone. 748 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, I don't understand what God or whatever, what 749 00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: other you know, religious entity wanted from me. I didn't understand, 750 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: and so death was pretty much where I was until 751 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: I got to basic training. So I joined the army 752 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: gradually because it's something that I saw as a means 753 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: to some form of recognizable death. Does that make sense? 754 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: What you wanted to go out in a blaze of 755 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: glory because you already wanted to get it over it? 756 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: So like you said, you joined it as a means 757 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: to an end, but you also wanted something to your 758 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: name before you go well yeing, that's German, that's German 759 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: ying and nine um yes, kind of like it was 760 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: more basically like I didn't really care about like a 761 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: blaze of glory. I just wanted to to end, you know, 762 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: I wanted my life to end because I didn't necessarily 763 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: see the point. Right. So like after you get out 764 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: of abuse, fast care in your home and like you 765 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: have like one person that sort of gives you hope, 766 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: you're sort of fighting between sort of two I guess 767 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: really two realities. Reality A is okay, I'd rather just 768 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: go ahead and just die so then I don't have 769 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: to fight anymore. And then reality B, yes, I can 770 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: continue fighting on for something. For example, Jan, I can 771 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, use her as as a way to sort 772 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: of move forward and have something to fight for. So 773 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of where I was. But but gradually, UM, 774 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: as I started to move towards the range of regiment, 775 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: I started to realize, UM, how important I was, you know, 776 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: like I guess it started. It was more about UM 777 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: sort of seeing I guess where I should be and 778 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: thinking about, Okay, that's important. I should move towards to that. 779 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: I should try to put energy into being positive and 780 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: being focused and trying to find things that would that 781 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: would make me feel more I don't know, more relevant. 782 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't make sense to UM. And then 783 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: and then joining the regiment like joining the ranger battalion, 784 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: I like, for the first six months, I was kind 785 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: of like, well, I don't know, this sucks. You know, 786 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: when I was a strong ranger. For the first six months, 787 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: I was the strongest ranger you would ever see. But 788 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: I always tried to keep myself away from the team, 789 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, the squad. I'd never really talked to anybody. 790 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: I kept myself pretty much alone in my barracks room. 791 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: Um M, and I don't I hope that why not 792 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: going on a tangent by why why did you why 793 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: why do you felt ostracized or you felt to ostracize yourself? 794 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: Like why did you do that? Well, the biggest thing 795 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: was trying to figure out how I could be close 796 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: to the team without exposing what was going on in 797 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: my actual life, like you know, in reality, like because 798 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: it was airborne school where I found out that my 799 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: sister was raped, right, and and getting into battalion. Like, 800 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: first off, when I was an Airborne school and I 801 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: found out that my sister was raped, I got into 802 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: a fight with a with a Marine captain, right, so 803 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: he was he was sitting behind me, or not sitting 804 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: behind me. We were doing push ups and he was like, 805 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: come on, Hammer, you can do it. And I turned 806 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: around and I said, you know, fuck you cocksucker, you know, 807 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: and and then he was like, you know, he was 808 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: like he got all pists and stuff, you know, and 809 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: like the Marines usually do. And then um, you know, 810 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: he talked to stars in Airborne and I was sitting 811 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: in the office at Parade Rest, you know, pretty much 812 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: being you know, yelled at and stuff, and and you know, 813 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,959 Speaker 1: I was like, crap, you know, like I can't say 814 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: anything because you know, I'm thinking about my sister being 815 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: raped and whatnot. And that was all in my mind 816 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: until I went to um, you know, ranger or rip 817 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: hold and then I had a tough time there and 818 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: then even you know, I remember like, um, I was 819 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: on this on the range. When I finally got to RIP, 820 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: I was on the range and Stargant straight with her 821 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: right and you guys know Sargeant straight like you know, 822 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 1: and I was I was sitting there on the range 823 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: and I could see him watching me, and you know, 824 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't focus, you know, I couldn't focus 825 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: with this, you know, the shooting. And then I had 826 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: my sister being raped, and I was really trying to 827 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: like concentrate on what I was doing as a potential ranger. 828 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: And then you know, I I didn't take a knee 829 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: when I reloaded, and Stargeant straight came over. It's like 830 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: what the funk hammer? What the fund are you doing? 831 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: You know, and then he smoked me there on the 832 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: range and then um, I remember doing um, you know 833 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: RIP graduation. He was like, you know, in front of 834 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: the entire RIP class, he was like, you know, I 835 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: don't think hammer should graduate. And then and then at 836 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: that point I was like, man, you know, I really 837 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: have to bring this in focus. Um. And so you know, 838 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: at that point I tried to fight that's overwhelming, UM. 839 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: Need to to to worry about my sister and to 840 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,720 Speaker 1: make sure that she was okay with you know, making 841 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: sure that I, you know, I was an effective ranger. 842 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it's I'd say it all the time when 843 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: when you when you have aspirations for you know, special 844 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,720 Speaker 1: forces or you know, specialized units, it's it's hard because 845 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 1: you can't really dedicate that much of your own personal time, 846 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: of your time to your personal matters because it just 847 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: of course a wires so much, so much studying, so 848 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 1: much actual you know, field work and training. It takes, 849 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's truly a few years, a couple of 850 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: years of training to get to a point where you're operating, 851 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: you know, afficionately. So you have to your your your 852 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: personal life really takes a back seat. And it's tough 853 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: because that your example is a very very strong example 854 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 1: of what I've been saying, and you have to put 855 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: something in atrocity like that, something is so horrible in 856 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: the back of your mind just to freaking of course, 857 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: get through what you have to get through. And you know, 858 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: and that in part takes a toll. You know, you 859 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: feel kind of crappy about that too, you know, of course, 860 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: absolutely no, you're you're absolutely right, and you know, like 861 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 1: there were so many times where I wanted to tell 862 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,720 Speaker 1: my you know, my team leader or my squad leader 863 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,919 Speaker 1: or you know, even the platoons are and hey start 864 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: and look, you know, this is what is going on. 865 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: I can't handle it. But you're you're always looking at 866 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: like at least when I was in battalion, I was 867 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: always looking at my team, you know, like I always said, 868 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: you know, I want to be the best fucking ranger 869 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: I could be. There's no reason why I need to 870 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: be in a weekend state because of what's happening to 871 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: me on the civilian side. You know, Okay, it's my sister, 872 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: but these guys are trusting me with their lies. I 873 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: need to be you know, ball. Also, the law is 874 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: effective there there's you know, otherwise I shouldn't be here. 875 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: Do you think having all that responsibility and needing to 876 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: be on top of all this in order to be 877 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: effective was was like a good thing for you because 878 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: I think in society today, we emphasize, you know, talking 879 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: about your feelings, talking about things that are going on 880 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: in your life, and it seems like for you being 881 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: able to put that on the back burner in order 882 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: to become an effective ranger may have saved your life 883 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: on on some level. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's 884 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: something that I mean that should be pretty clear. Like 885 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're at the time, look, okay, so 886 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,439 Speaker 1: like the State of Minnesota was worried that I would 887 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: come up and I would kill the guy. That's how 888 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: that's that's how classified the information was for what you're 889 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: talking about the guy that the State of Minnesota was 890 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: so afraid that they hit all of that information from me, right, 891 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: and so understanding too. I mean, especially if they see 892 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: that you're a guy who's you know, becoming a special operator, 893 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, special operations in the military, they would think 894 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: like this, this is a trained killer on some level. Yeah, 895 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: and so they were afraid, okay, and so like, but 896 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: when you're in the range of regiment, you're like when 897 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: I said that, I was like a strong ranger for 898 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: like the first six or seven months. Um, that pretty 899 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: much forced me to think about what I needed to 900 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: do here in the in the battalion, because I didn't 901 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: want to be one of those rangers that was like 902 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,919 Speaker 1: you know that that kind of like sort of did 903 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 1: his job. Like you know, I knew these guys dependent 904 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: on me. You know, I needed to be effective with 905 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: the team and the squad. So it was hard for 906 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: me to to take my sister out of the equation. 907 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: But I realized the importance of me doing that. It's 908 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's hard, but you you have 909 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: to you have to look at it like this. You know, yes, 910 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: my sister was raped. Okay, I'm pissed as funk about that, 911 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 1: but I'm here with the team. They need me in 912 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: Afghanistan and Iraq. These guys need me. I mean, let's 913 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: be honest. That's why you made it. You made it 914 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: because you were able to, you know, make that distinction. 915 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: And that's that's what that's what is looked for in 916 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: a candidate. You know that you're able to focus on 917 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 1: the job and the mission at hand and leave all 918 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: the other ship in the in the back, you know, 919 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: and and that's why you made it. And I would 920 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: also attach to that that it was heart, Like a 921 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: ranger has to have heart, if like I I mean, 922 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: I've seen oh man, I've seen so many rangers that 923 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: don't have heart. You know, you gotta you. I don't know, 924 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: Like it's it's so it should be so easy to explain, 925 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: but it's it's it's about commitment, you know. It's about 926 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: really looking at what you need to do what you 927 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: have and just working with it and and and loving 928 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: what you do, loving who you are. I think, to 929 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: put things in a perspective for me, I'm thinking, since 930 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: you were a child, you're the one who called the 931 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: police to get your siblings and yourself out of the 932 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: initial situation. And then it sounds like you were the 933 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: one who was initiating the inquiries or you know, trying 934 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 1: to initiate investigations into your forster parents once again, trying 935 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: to you know, find a better situation for you and 936 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: your siblings. It sounds like to me you've been the 937 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: one kind of caring after your siblings. So at this 938 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: point to make that decision was really to say I 939 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: gotta let go. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, definitely, you 940 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: can definitely put it like that. I mean, that was 941 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 1: hard and inside, that's just that just a test to 942 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: how hard your your commitment was or your transition was. 943 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: That's difficult, but it was still a priority. I mean 944 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: I never I never forgot about that. I never forgot 945 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: what I needed to do for my sister. Um, but 946 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: I understood that what my sister was going through. Um, 947 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: why I'll important my job here right because there are 948 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: other there are people's lives on you know, basically in 949 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: my hands. Like if I'm if I'm a weak part 950 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: of a you know, a team flowing into an objective, 951 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: you know, then we might lose a guy. So I 952 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: had that sort of trumped everything that I was worried about. 953 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it was. It was freaking hard. 954 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: It was my squad leader, team leader and freaking platoons 955 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: are and will tell you, um, you know for me, 956 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: it was it was it was really it was a 957 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: struggle to be on so post RASP and you know, 958 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: now being an army ranger, what are some of the 959 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: things that you got to do? What deployments, uh and 960 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: and all that. Al Right, So I went to let's say, 961 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: my first appointment was Afghanistan. Um, Afghanistan was a little 962 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: bit interesting. Um, but I would I don't know, like, 963 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: and then I went to Iraq. I was in missoulira 964 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: I do want to hear why why afghan understand it 965 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: was interesting? Well, Afghanistan was interesting because I don't know. 966 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a point at which um I 967 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 1: wasn't online simply because during our rotary wing training at 968 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: Fort Campbell, um I failed to engage a target. And 969 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: like that kind of feeds into, UH, the whole thing 970 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 1: with my sister. I don't want to talk about that. 971 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: That's like one of the most difficult parts. UM. You know, 972 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: I get it. It's up to you. I just you know, 973 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 1: when I hear you laugh and say that it was interesting, 974 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: it's it's hard not to. You know, if you're hearing 975 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,959 Speaker 1: reasoning behind me, you're you're open up, open up about 976 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: whatever it is that you want. I mean, you know, 977 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: we love hearing your story, and I feel like you've 978 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: already opened up about a lot of things that most 979 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: people wouldn't and that's kind of the beauty of doing this. 980 00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 1: You know. If you listen to like our recent interview 981 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: with UH Steve Ralston, who was a Navy seal, he 982 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: opens up about some pretty crazy shit, and I think 983 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: it's therapeutic for a lot of guys. Alright, So I 984 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: mean then I then I'll talk more or less like 985 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: to talk about Iraq UM. So Iraq was probably one 986 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: of the most difficult deployments. I mean, I've only had 987 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: two deployments in the Range regiment UM, but Iraq for 988 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: me was was difficult because like we like we were 989 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: in a country for like four or five weeks, and 990 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: we we had this regular Army like I think they 991 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: were a regular regular like striker mechanized unit that like 992 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: that is they were in country for like two years. 993 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: And my I think it was the team. You know, 994 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: it might have been the squad we were supposed to 995 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: like go and sort of get familiarized with Missoul, you know, 996 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 1: like where all the potential i e. D. Places were, 997 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: and and you know we're the you know, we're the 998 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: most common likely ambush points were. And we went with 999 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 1: this regular army striker unit and we we got to 1000 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, like for whatever reason, the medic of 1001 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: that unit was a fifty cow gunner. Now I don't 1002 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: understand it, but okay, and uh, I guess like someone 1003 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: threw something at him or he saw like a weapon 1004 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: or something like that or he saw a potential ambush site. 1005 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 1: And so we like the strikers came to a stop. 1006 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: They were like three strikers, and we got out and 1007 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: I was pulling I was pulling security down this alleyway. 1008 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: Well I actually wasn't really much of an alleyway. It 1009 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: was pretty it was pretty big for an alley way. 1010 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,479 Speaker 1: But and um, I was sitting there on a knee, 1011 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,799 Speaker 1: and you know, my my eye pro was starting to 1012 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,240 Speaker 1: sweat and like you know, like my my my gloves 1013 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: started to etch my hands, and you know, I was 1014 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: a little bit nervous, and I was pulling security really hard. 1015 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: And like I saw this little girl she had been 1016 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: like eight years old, and it was a little bit dusty, 1017 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: and she started walking towards me, you know. And like 1018 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: before we got to well not actually not before, but 1019 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: when we were in Iraq, we had this you know, 1020 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: a couple of days where you get the briefings about 1021 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: what the fox is going on, and and you know, 1022 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about how you know, the kids were like 1023 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: throwing grenades, like you know when you go over and 1024 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: under a pass and like you know, the kids are 1025 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: dropping grenades in the hats or something like that. Or 1026 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: they're just walking up to you, you know, asking for 1027 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: water or m r e s and you know, then 1028 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: suddenly they blow up. Well, we got these briefs, and 1029 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: I was really nervous because I surely thought that would 1030 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 1: happen to me, because I was one of those guys 1031 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: that you know, I love kids, you know, coming from 1032 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: my background, I've I've always been you know, pro you know, 1033 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: pro kids, and so this, you know, this this she, 1034 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, she had black hair. She you know, she 1035 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: was wearing like a thick jacket or you know, I 1036 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what it was, but it was 1037 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 1: pretty thick. And she was walking towards me with you know, 1038 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: her right hand covering her face, and as like great, 1039 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,959 Speaker 1: you know, and she was like at least in front 1040 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: of me, and you know, I clicked my in for 1041 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, to from you know, from safe to semi, 1042 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: and I was so I was so scared. I was 1043 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: so nervous, you know, my hand was shaking, you know, 1044 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: but I wanted to make sure that my team was safe. 1045 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: And then I had this girl walking even closer, you know, 1046 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 1: and I saw a little tear come out of her 1047 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: eye and then you know, and then like I was, 1048 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, I was about the shoot her, right, I 1049 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: was about the shoot her because you know, SLP dictates 1050 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: that I should have shot her a long time ago, right, 1051 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: she should have never gotten that close to me. But 1052 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: when she got like within six or seven feet of me, 1053 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: when I was about to fire, a hand, um, like 1054 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: a woman or a man's hand from behind because I 1055 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: couldn't see, Like there was like a wall in front 1056 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: of me, and like this hand came out from behind 1057 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: this wall and it grabbed her and pulled her inside, 1058 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, and then like then my sector was free again. 1059 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh man, that's that's crazy, you know, 1060 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: Like I I you know, I never got over that, 1061 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: to be honest, Um, I mean, of course nothing happened, um, 1062 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: but it was. It was It was probably one of 1063 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: the most traumatic traumatic things I've ever experienced. UM. I 1064 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: also remember like a last exit vowel, um before Iraq. 1065 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: Actually no, actually this was yeah, this was before IRAQ. 1066 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: There's a last exit vowel and UM, me and this 1067 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: new guy we're going into the shootouse and like you know, 1068 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: I was the sawgunner or whatnot, and he stepped in 1069 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,439 Speaker 1: front of me just as I was about to blow 1070 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: away these targets, and our team leader, it was Sergeant 1071 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: Carlson at the time, you know, he he grabbed him 1072 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: and he pulled them back just as I fired, and 1073 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: I was like, God, damn, this is this is real. 1074 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: This is you know, I don't think I could do 1075 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,479 Speaker 1: this job anymore. It's no joke, man, it is no joke. 1076 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: It absolutely is not. And I mean they were there 1077 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: were times in Iraq where I just, you know, I 1078 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: felt maybe this, this, this job as a ranger wasn't 1079 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: for me because I couldn't. You know, you look around, 1080 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: you see your squad, and you see your team, and 1081 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: you see other platoons, and you know, those guys are 1082 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: all tough motherfucker's, you know, like and then when you 1083 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: hit an I D or you know, you you get 1084 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: contact for the first time. You know, on the one hand, 1085 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: you're you're really really trying hard to be a hard ass, 1086 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 1: and then on the other hand, you're, you know, you're 1087 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: you're pretty much an emotional ball. You're you know what 1088 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean. I wouldn't say that you're you're scared, but 1089 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: you're just yourself. You're nervous of failure. Would I would 1090 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: say it's you're self aware. You know that you have 1091 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: to shoot. You know that eventually you're gonna have to 1092 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: peek over that burm that's getting exactly. You know eventually 1093 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to look into windows while bullets are 1094 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: past your face. But you also know that you're fucking scared. 1095 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 1: It's self awareness, that's all it is. And you have 1096 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 1: to muster down, deep down and side pull that shipped 1097 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: out and do what you gotta do. And that's the 1098 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: crazy part, and that's the hard but yeah, that is, 1099 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: but that is also the very hard part. And that 1100 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: is the hardest part that I ever You know that 1101 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: that I felt, at least because it wasn't. I was 1102 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: always really worried about just doing something wrong. You know, 1103 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: I knew what my job was, I knew how to 1104 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: clear I knew you know how to do this ship. 1105 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: But but you're always so you're always so scared. I 1106 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: mean everyone, everyone goes to that, especially in those situations. 1107 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: I've been scared numerous amount of times. The difference is 1108 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: is it just the training, you know, the condition response 1109 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: to these situations. You know how much meticulous attention you're 1110 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: paying to the things you're doing, because once you start 1111 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: ingraining that into your system. Your your fight or fly 1112 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: becomes fight and fight, you know what I mean. It 1113 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: becomes you know, I have to do what I have 1114 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: to do in this situation. Naturally you go into it 1115 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,919 Speaker 1: and that's where training comes in. But there's no there's 1116 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 1: no two ways about it. Everyone is fucking scared, but 1117 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: you have to you have to act. That's what we're 1118 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: there for, you know. You gotta learn how to push 1119 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: that ship down. And that's why a lot of our 1120 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: training is fucking relacious. A lot about training brings you 1121 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: to that point and back several times, of course, you know, 1122 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: so that when you're there, you recognize that, Okay, I'm 1123 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: just bugging right now. I need to do what I 1124 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: gotta do. Yeah, no, that's that's absolutely right, you know. 1125 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 1: But you know, again, like when you're at least when 1126 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: I was in those scenarios, and it was more like 1127 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess I felt overwhelmingly like I 1128 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: felt my sister, you know. And so like when you're 1129 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: in a combat situation Iraq or Afghanistan, or you're in 1130 01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 1: a situation where your team depends on you, then there's 1131 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 1: there's more pressure. I would say, like I felt so 1132 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with pressure, you know, like I don't know, I mean, 1133 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 1: that's maybe that's what's hard too, is to even think 1134 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: about the situation, you know, not just just keep harping 1135 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: on it, but to think about the situation and yet 1136 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: know what you as an individual are capable of, and 1137 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: having to have that self awareness to refrain from doing that, 1138 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: because it's fucking whether anybody wants to sit back and 1139 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: think about it and say it'll be right, And honestly, 1140 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 1: if you did it, I'm sure you probably would get 1141 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: somewhat of a slap on the fucking wrist, you know, 1142 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: at that time, but you still know it's wrong and 1143 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: you have to eat that. But then you know you 1144 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: could easily fucking end this guy's life, you know. So 1145 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: it's something you struggle with, especially going through what you're 1146 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: going through. Then when you go to another fucking country, 1147 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 1: like you said, you're you're so willing to fucking smoke 1148 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 1: a kid, and you would have been justified. But then 1149 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: over here in this fucking country, someone will directly disrespect 1150 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 1: you and put your fucking family in harm's way, and 1151 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: yet you can't react the same way. That it is 1152 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 1: that that that that line that that that that line 1153 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,479 Speaker 1: is crazy. That's what I didn't completely understand about US law. 1154 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: And I know we're probably going off on a candidate, 1155 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: but no, I mean people think about this, especially US 1156 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: veterans that have been you know, fucking hooking and jobbing, 1157 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 1: and you know, I have killed people for much less. 1158 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 1: We struggle with that. Over here, someone could bug you, 1159 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, and you know you might see that kid 1160 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 1: on the street to three days later and like, this 1161 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 1: is the motherfucker that mugged me, And yet you will 1162 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 1: go to jail for premeditated murder if you killed him 1163 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 1: right then and there. But I you know, people have 1164 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: asked me on Facebook, like, you know, I have a 1165 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: lot of well I don't have a lot of black friends. 1166 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 1: It's so sad to say, but it's true. But you 1167 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: know a lot of people have asked me like why 1168 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 1: is it that that you know, in the United States, 1169 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 1: like you can't really defend yourself, you know, like you well, 1170 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: it's because it's a civilized society, you know what I mean, 1171 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: it'll deconstruct you know, if people were able to, you know, 1172 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: do the whole eye for an eye thing. I get it. 1173 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 1: And where we're going is war That's what I'm saying, Like, 1174 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 1: I get it, you get it. I hope you get it. 1175 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: But there is no such thing as civilized society. What 1176 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: is civilized? Well, we set the standard, you know what 1177 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean. And you've been to other countries, you know 1178 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. You live in a civilized country. You 1179 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: live in Germany, that places. But when but when we 1180 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: say civilized, okay, there are a lot of countries that 1181 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 1: don't have you know, are super high death rate in 1182 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: terms of gun violence in the United States. Now, I 1183 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 1: I love guns, oh trust me, I love guns. But 1184 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is the United States has 1185 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 1: the highest incarceration rate in the world, right and we 1186 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: have to ask ourselves, is that civilized? Okay? Yeah, pretty much? 1187 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 1: The people in jail, in prison, we can justify that, 1188 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: except for, of course, you know, the massive people incarcerated 1189 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: for non violent drug offenses. And that adds to it. 1190 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: And and we're talking to put addicts in a you know, 1191 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 1: in a change. You know, it's like we're talking on 1192 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: this podcast us about rapes, about violent situations. You know, 1193 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: those are the people who deserve to be put in 1194 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: a page, not you know, many times, like a black 1195 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: kid in a bad neighborhood selling a bag of marijuana 1196 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: or in some cases some guy who's addicted to whatever 1197 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: it is, heroin crack. Like, I don't see the reason 1198 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 1: that those people should be in jails. And that's like 1199 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 1: a whole another issue of the private press prison system 1200 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 1: that there's you know, a financial incentive to keep these 1201 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: people in jail. Of course, but is that civilized well 1202 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: that that you know, that that that's up for discussion 1203 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 1: or argument, you know, I think that's all of the topic, 1204 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: you know. But of course, I mean, we're okay, we're safe, 1205 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We can't we can't bring 1206 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 1: that back with us. You know. It's a totally different 1207 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 1: situation that war is is, war is out of control. 1208 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 1: War is you're literally committing to killing each other until 1209 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: someone wins. And then when that person or that that 1210 01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: entity wins, you know, then he becomes the lawmaker or 1211 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: he becomes the head chief, you know, so my, my my, 1212 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: but everything in between. There's there's no really no rules 1213 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: to it. It's life and death. I mean, there's no 1214 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 1: there's really not a lot of honor. And do you 1215 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, when you look at it, it's 1216 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: we're out here and we're gonna kill each other. That's 1217 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 1: the point. And then when you get out of that 1218 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 1: situation into the real world, the distinction between the two 1219 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: universes are totally totally different. You have to learn how 1220 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: to leave that alone. And I try. And what I'm 1221 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: saying is, I don't even ask those questions to myself 1222 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 1: anymore because those questions drove me mad. So I just 1223 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: stay away from that. I don't know if that's a 1224 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 1: good thing to do or not, but that's what I do. 1225 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't even ask why anymore. I would say it's 1226 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: important to I mean, I guess it's it's it's very 1227 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: very relevant to figure out what your position is on war, 1228 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 1: to understand it. It's important to understand it, Like I 1229 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: don't think that when like for example, when when when 1230 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 1: you know pick it, you know, through fifteen thousand Confederate soldiers, 1231 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, against the Union Center at Gettysburg. He he 1232 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 1: sat there and said, oh, war is bad, you know. 1233 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's important to really sort of 1234 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: understand why you as an individual are currently at war. 1235 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: No political reasons, no religious reasons. Why why do you 1236 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: think personally that you are? You know, how can you 1237 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: justify where you are and what you're doing. And so 1238 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,720 Speaker 1: I've managed to do that. I've managed to sort of 1239 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 1: justify why I was in Afghanistan and why I was 1240 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 1: in Iraq because ultimately it came down to protecting the 1241 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: American people. I didn't concern myself with how I was 1242 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: protecting the American people. The fact is my leaders said 1243 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 1: that I should be here, everyone from my my team 1244 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: leader to the President of the the United States, so that 1245 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 1: me being here protects the American people. So I don't 1246 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: argue with that. If I wanted to argue with that, 1247 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be in the military. I would be a politician, right, 1248 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 1: So there has to be I mean, I know people 1249 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 1: probably won't agree with that, but there has to be 1250 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: you have to sort of justify it to yourself and 1251 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 1: anybody else the way that also you're protecting the American people. 1252 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: That I always go back to is like, if it's 1253 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 1: not for people like you joining or people like Jason joining, 1254 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 1: then we would have to have conscription. It would have 1255 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 1: to be like Israel, where you know at a certain 1256 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,160 Speaker 1: age you'd have to go in. So I do think 1257 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 1: when civilians are very critical about UH people who joined 1258 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 1: the military, you know, not not the reasons were there 1259 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 1: or the war, but the people who go there. It's like, 1260 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for you guys, then you know, the 1261 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 1: foreign policy that we have is not going to go 1262 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 1: away anytime soon. So of course, of course, and then 1263 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: and then the other thing is, you know, um, for example, 1264 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: obviously I live in Germany, right, and so I always 1265 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I always run into Germans who are like, well, we 1266 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 1: don't want foreigners in our country, you know, and I'm 1267 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 1: and I'm always asking myself when I always ask them, 1268 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, so you know, what's a foreigner? You know? 1269 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 1: And they're like you and I'm kind of like, I 1270 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: laugh at that, because you know, they consider themselves patriots, right, 1271 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 1: And so the idea of a patriot is, well, I 1272 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: can sit in my house and and and wave the 1273 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,440 Speaker 1: German flag and and and watch the German soccer games. 1274 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 1: But that's that's where my patriotism ends. I don't have 1275 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 1: to join the German military. I don't have to you know, 1276 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 1: be a firefire fire fire or a police officer. And 1277 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the mindset that a lot of 1278 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: Americans have. Oh I'm a patriot because I sit at 1279 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: my house with at least three or four guns, and 1280 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 1: I waved the American flag, and I tell foreigners they 1281 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 1: can't live in my country. But that's ridiculous. You've never 1282 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 1: sacrificed anything for the United States of America. You've not 1283 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 1: you've you've not been a firefire firefire, you've not been 1284 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 1: a public servant, You've not thought in war against America's enemies. 1285 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 1: So how can you honestly call yourself a patriot? Well, 1286 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I own a gun and I I wave a flag. 1287 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:01,559 Speaker 1: That's not patriotism. That's the illusion of page ratism, you 1288 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's it's oh, that's frustrating. 1289 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 1: But do you understand. Yeah, no, I personally get it, 1290 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, even as a civilian. I I agree with you. 1291 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 1: It's funny what you're saying about German though, in the 1292 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 1: attitude towards foreigners, because I think we're often told in 1293 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: America by like a certain segment, we have to be 1294 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,600 Speaker 1: more like Europe. They're more accepting we have all this 1295 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: racism here, and I think according to a lot of 1296 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: people in Europe that's not really the case. And in 1297 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: America is probably one of the most, if not the 1298 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: most diverse place to live in the most tolerant. Well. 1299 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 1: I yes, Um, I've lived in Europe for like five 1300 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: years now, and I've traveled to quite a few Western 1301 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: and European or Eastern European countries, and what I can 1302 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:52,440 Speaker 1: tell you is racism in the United States is pretty 1303 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: It's like the god of racism worldwide. I hate to 1304 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 1: say that, but it's true. Like in Europe, it's people 1305 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 1: are more us racist based on where they think you 1306 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 1: come from. Like if you're for example, obviously I'm black 1307 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,799 Speaker 1: and I'm living in Europe, Germans treat me far differently 1308 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,880 Speaker 1: than they would treat a black person from Africa. You know. 1309 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: It's it's more if they look at you and they say, well, 1310 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 1: he's only he or she is only in Europe because 1311 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: they need a better life than they're prone to trade 1312 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,879 Speaker 1: treat you, you know, sort of in a racist manner there. 1313 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 1: They're they're going to treat you like, you know, you're 1314 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 1: a low life or your subterranean um. You know. But 1315 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 1: like I said, if you're American, they treat you far differently. 1316 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 1: And and like I said, it's all dependent on where 1317 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 1: you come from. You can come from um, you know, 1318 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 1: Italy or Greece and and people in Western Europe will 1319 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 1: treat you like like like your ship, you know. I mean, 1320 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily all based on skin color. But I 1321 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,679 Speaker 1: think you told me you experienced something similar in Japan, right, Jason, 1322 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 1: with like racist issues. Yeah. It was just walked into 1323 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: a bar and Okinawa, and it was the first time 1324 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: I was told that, you know, this is a Japanese 1325 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,759 Speaker 1: only bar. I was like, I've never felt that before. 1326 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 1: That was crazy. I can't be here because of who 1327 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 1: I am. That's crazy. Yeah, that nuts. Yeah, in Japan, 1328 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, holy crap. I didn't know they were 1329 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 1: like that over here. It's like he said, it's just 1330 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 1: I was a foreigner and they didn't want to say 1331 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,879 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't. They weren't. We weren't very popular 1332 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 1: in Okinawa. We still are, of course. So let's hear 1333 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: about you leaving the military and and what you're up 1334 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 1: to now. Alright, So when I got out of the military, um, 1335 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 1: and what made you decide to leave the military, Well, 1336 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 1: my sister, Um, there was a I was wondering that too. 1337 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: I want to hear if you ever made contact again. Yeah, Um, 1338 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 1: I decided to leave. Um battalion like two months earlier. UM, 1339 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 1: and then I went back to Minnesota and I started 1340 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 1: a lawsuit against the foster parents, the the social workers, 1341 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,320 Speaker 1: the foster agency, and the and a farmer. Well the 1342 01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 1: insurance company. Yeah, I was piste, trust me like I 1343 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,600 Speaker 1: When I got back, I had to put all the 1344 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 1: evidence together. I had to look at all the information 1345 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 1: that I had, Uh, you know, I looked at the 1346 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,839 Speaker 1: police report and all the information that I had regarding 1347 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,600 Speaker 1: my sisters you know, rape, and then I decided, you 1348 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,719 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to an attorney. So UM, after 1349 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 1: like two or three months of trying to convince my 1350 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 1: sister to go with me, we we finally went and 1351 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 1: we told um the attorney everything that happened, and then 1352 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,679 Speaker 1: pretty much that day we were able to start a lawsuit, 1353 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 1: UM against the people that abused us. And that lawsuit 1354 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:53,799 Speaker 1: dragged on for about four years and we ended up winning. 1355 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,760 Speaker 1: Unfortunately I can't tell you the amount, UM, but we 1356 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 1: end it up winning. And then after that, I made 1357 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: it I kind of made it my mission to sort 1358 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,640 Speaker 1: of you know, bring foster care abuse to the to 1359 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: the public so that they they're they're aware of what's 1360 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,679 Speaker 1: going on in foster care and and hopefully with some luck, 1361 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 1: I could change some of the laws and um, you know, 1362 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 1: place more of the emphasis on protecting foster children in 1363 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 1: foster care. Yeah, that's what it's all about, more so 1364 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,479 Speaker 1: than than making money of the situation. Like if you 1365 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 1: could change the culture, of course, that's like the most 1366 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: impact that you could have as a person, really, you know, 1367 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 1: I think people get so I talked about this on 1368 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: the podcast fairly Off, and we get so wrapped up 1369 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 1: and voting for this person or voting for this person. 1370 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 1: But I think the real impact we could have is 1371 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 1: went on a local level and then hopefully on a 1372 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 1: national level we could do something that changes the dialogue 1373 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,839 Speaker 1: and then of course and then possibly even changes our policy. 1374 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: Absolutely that that should be the whole point, you know, 1375 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: but a lot of people nowadays don't care about that. 1376 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: They I would really hate to say this, but I 1377 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: have to. Like one example of this where it's like 1378 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,120 Speaker 1: it's all funked up is the double A CP. Like 1379 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,639 Speaker 1: they if you've ever noticed, if you've ever really looked, 1380 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 1: they always sort of monetize um racism, you know, like 1381 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,280 Speaker 1: they always say something like, well, black people shouldn't travel 1382 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 1: to Missouri. And then like like for example, like the 1383 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 1: the you know, you shouldn't take this airline's flight. Black 1384 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 1: Americans shouldn't take this airline's flight. And then I'm sitting 1385 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 1: here wondering why because like, well, three people, three black people, 1386 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 1: in the span of seventeen years of experienced racism on 1387 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 1: this flight. So then therefore all black people shouldn't go. 1388 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,320 Speaker 1: And then and then you have the double A CP 1389 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 1: going down to the airlines and sitting there with the meeting, 1390 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 1: you know, in a meeting with them and saying, well, well, 1391 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,480 Speaker 1: you're racist. And you know, you have these these airlines 1392 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 1: trying to sort of appease the Double A c P 1393 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: as if they're the voice of all black Americans. That 1394 01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:00,040 Speaker 1: infuriates me. Yeah, I get it, you know. And on 1395 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 1: kas is racism, and it's like, you know, you're you're 1396 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 1: gonna have to do this or you have to make 1397 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: this donation to what is it the Rainbow Coalition? Is 1398 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 1: that Jesse Jackson's thing? Um? You know? And then you 1399 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 1: look at what was the guy from the Clippers who 1400 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 1: had made all those racist comments, and then we looked 1401 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 1: back in his history and he won a n double 1402 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: A CP image, right, yeah. Yeah, the the guy who 1403 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 1: was on the phone with like his his chick on 1404 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,760 Speaker 1: the side, the owner of the team I forgot. Yeah, 1405 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna look this up real quick. 1406 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 1: Wait who was that one of the yeah you remember 1407 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,519 Speaker 1: the owner man? Really? Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah? Um 1408 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,479 Speaker 1: shoot shoot shoot? Did he have the black girlfriend? Yeah? 1409 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Donald Donald? Well, his whole thing was he was like, 1410 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't He was like, I don't care if you're 1411 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 1: fucking any black guys, but don't take pictures of them 1412 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 1: on Instagram. It's like, really, that's what this guy is 1413 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,559 Speaker 1: a problem with. You know, I remember that whole thing. Yea, 1414 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 1: I remember that, but like yeah, and then they looked 1415 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 1: back and they're like, sure enough, this man won an 1416 01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,759 Speaker 1: end double a CP Awards. So it really doesn't matter 1417 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: what you say. I think. It's just like, oh, are 1418 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: you gonna give us money for this political donation? Sure? 1419 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, everything becomes politics, man. It's it's completely fucked up. 1420 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 1: And you can monetize racism. I mean, so that's that's 1421 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,680 Speaker 1: pretty much how it is, and and it bothers me. 1422 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,760 Speaker 1: But I hope I answered your question. I don't know 1423 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I can I original question going back to it I 1424 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 1: was wondering, Um, well, actually, you know now I'm just 1425 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,080 Speaker 1: intrigued of what your relationship is like with your sister. 1426 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 1: But then also just why do you leave the military 1427 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,120 Speaker 1: and then and then living in Germany getting married? I 1428 01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:40,519 Speaker 1: want to hear all that, all right, So well I'll 1429 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 1: start with the relationship with my sister. Um m hmm. 1430 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 1: My relationship with my sister isn't really a typical brother 1431 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 1: sister relationship. Like if you've lived in a like a 1432 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 1: happy household your entire life, and you can imagine what 1433 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 1: the relationship between you and your sister would be, you know, 1434 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 1: like occasional fighting, but it's like more love fighting. I 1435 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 1: guess you can say, Um, me and my sister are 1436 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:10,040 Speaker 1: more like I don't know, sometimes I feel like we're 1437 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 1: more of acquaintances, like you know, we're we've never been 1438 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 1: able to develop you know that that that close knit 1439 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: dynamic that siblings have, and so for us, it's it's 1440 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty much still a work in progress. I guess, um, yeah, 1441 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: it's it's more like you know, how how you're doing, 1442 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,639 Speaker 1: I'm good, How are you? I'm fine? And then like 1443 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a few months later we talked to 1444 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 1: each other. That's that's pretty much how to be honest. 1445 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 1: That's how it how it is, and that's not wrong either. 1446 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean, as long as you know you got you 1447 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 1: guys are there for each other. I mean I'm the 1448 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 1: same way. I'm a little maintenance. You know, you don't 1449 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:51,720 Speaker 1: you don't have to call me every once in a 1450 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 1: blue moon and reassure me you still love me. I 1451 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,960 Speaker 1: don't need that, you know. Yeah, yeah, but it's for us. 1452 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 1: It's it's it's almost really like we're not really brother 1453 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,000 Speaker 1: and sister. I mean, I don't know, it's good. I mean, 1454 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 1: you guys went through some ship together, you know, Yeah, exactly, 1455 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 1: That's that's how it is. It's it's difficult. Germany explained that. Alright, 1456 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 1: So Germany was more of like a well a thirty 1457 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,559 Speaker 1: second decision, Like me and my wife Julia. I. I 1458 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: met Julia in the United States, and like we decided 1459 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 1: to move, Like we lived in the United States for 1460 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: like three or four years together, and then we decided 1461 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 1: to move to Germany because I didn't have any family 1462 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 1: in the US. Um and she hated, I guess she 1463 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 1: hated like basically spending every Christmas season and every holiday 1464 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 1: alone and when I had to work, you know, I 1465 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 1: was contracting out at Fort Benning, and um, like, she basically, 1466 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, she had to stay home with our newborn 1467 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:03,639 Speaker 1: the entire time time Monday through basically Saturday and sometimes 1468 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,240 Speaker 1: even Sundays. And she couldn't handle that by herself. I mean, 1469 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 1: usually my wife's a strong woman. Um, but I get it. 1470 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,800 Speaker 1: You know, most of the time she was alone, and 1471 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,959 Speaker 1: I wasn't, you know, obviously there. And so we decided, 1472 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,720 Speaker 1: like we were driving back from Atlanta one day, and 1473 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,599 Speaker 1: like we spent thirty seconds talking about moving to Germany 1474 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 1: and how feasible it was. And then you know, when 1475 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 1: we got home, we're like, yeah, let's move to Germany. 1476 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: So her and you know, my my daughter Yana, got 1477 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: on a flight. They flew to Germany. I sold everything 1478 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,640 Speaker 1: back in the United States and or donated stuff and 1479 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,599 Speaker 1: then I jumped on a flight and we moved here. 1480 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,160 Speaker 1: It's that sounds awesome, you know. I mean it was, 1481 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 1: like I said, it was pretty much a spur of 1482 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,280 Speaker 1: the moment thing. Yeah, I mean, I don't regret it. 1483 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes I hate Germany, but of course that's expected. You'll 1484 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 1: hate America too. Sometimes if you alway here anyway you go, 1485 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, you'll always have that. I can't believe it's 1486 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 1: got cut me off in traffic, all right, But the 1487 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 1: United States is nice or compared to the rest of 1488 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:09,800 Speaker 1: the world. I've been trying to tell people it is. 1489 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 1: It's it's more. I mean, it's it's better in every conceivable. 1490 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 1: M hmm, like you know way, I mean, it's nice. There. 1491 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 1: I miss it, I really do. So why do you 1492 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 1: ultimately leave the military. Why did I leave the range 1493 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,200 Speaker 1: of regiment or the military overall? I guess both. Um. 1494 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 1: So the range of regiment, it was pretty much for 1495 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,479 Speaker 1: my sister. I was offered an opportunity to re enlist 1496 01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 1: when I was in Iraq, um, but I really wanted 1497 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: to take care of my sister first. Um. I think 1498 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 1: my biggest fear was that she would forget me. Um. Well, 1499 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:54,640 Speaker 1: after the rape, she went through, um the what is 1500 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,240 Speaker 1: this therapy? When that therapy? Shock therapy? She went through 1501 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,599 Speaker 1: shock therapy, and she forgot a lot of stuff. And 1502 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,720 Speaker 1: my biggest thing was, Okay, you know, is she going 1503 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 1: to forget me? If she is going to forget me, 1504 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 1: then I need to at least help her start a 1505 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: lawsuit so that she can have some money or you know, 1506 01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,240 Speaker 1: where she can start her actual life and then uh, 1507 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 1: ultimately leaving the military was more. When I got into 1508 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:24,360 Speaker 1: the regular Army, I hated it. It was very it 1509 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,280 Speaker 1: was very confusing to me. Um A lot of the 1510 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 1: times you had, um, you know, the higher ups like 1511 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:35,759 Speaker 1: you know, the e sevens and eights doing absolutely nothing 1512 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,599 Speaker 1: and they would expect everybody below them to do stuff. 1513 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was it was too much bureaucracy 1514 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,200 Speaker 1: for me. Also, i'd imagine, you know from most of 1515 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 1: the Rangers. I know, Ranger regiment is very um, very strict, 1516 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,599 Speaker 1: you know, very locked down, disciplined, and you know everyone 1517 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,639 Speaker 1: knows regular Army is a little bit more like way 1518 01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 1: more lacks. You know, that's a hell of a transit. 1519 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,679 Speaker 1: It's retarded lacks and the regular Army I I couldn't. 1520 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't like when I first got there, I couldn't 1521 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,720 Speaker 1: take it. I could not take it. It was um. 1522 01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I love the regular Army, but working in 1523 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,760 Speaker 1: the regular Army is something that I absolutely hate it 1524 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 1: because it was like no one, no one understood what 1525 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 1: their responsibility was. Like I had a few guys in 1526 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 1: my unit who were you know, infantry, you know they 1527 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:30,000 Speaker 1: were they were armored guys. They understood, right. But then 1528 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,000 Speaker 1: you had a lot of people in the military and 1529 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 1: in my unit who, for example, work twenty years in laundry. 1530 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 1: What laundry that's still an MS Like, you know, you 1531 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,920 Speaker 1: have these guys. It's crazy. Yeah, you have these guys 1532 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 1: telling you to do telling you to do to do 1533 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,760 Speaker 1: push ups because you were late two minutes coming from breakfast, 1534 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, and like they don't like you're you're you 1535 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,720 Speaker 1: know you you have to Like I had to sit 1536 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 1: in the class and I had to teach the saw, right, 1537 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,320 Speaker 1: I had to, you know, I had to explain to 1538 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of Air Force people, well, this is how 1539 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 1: you know you put the saw on the operation. This 1540 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,400 Speaker 1: is you know, yeah yeah, yeahda. And then you know 1541 01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: this E six seven was supposed to take over for me. 1542 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,320 Speaker 1: He was you know, he was supposed to explain, um, 1543 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 1: you know, how to load unload the saw. He couldn't 1544 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 1: even do that. He sits up there fumbling with with 1545 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,760 Speaker 1: with a piece of paper or his notes that are 1546 01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,479 Speaker 1: all funked up, and then he looks at the back 1547 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 1: of the classroom and says, Hammer, why don't you come 1548 01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,080 Speaker 1: up here and explain this to him. Why the whole 1549 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 1: class is like dumbfounded. Seriously, That's exactly how it was, 1550 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 1: you know. And then after um, like I was supposed 1551 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,920 Speaker 1: to do, you know, Soldier of the Year right for 1552 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 1: this unit, and like I'm going through the process of 1553 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,040 Speaker 1: trying to learn all this material myself, and then none 1554 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,240 Speaker 1: of the like, none of the like E five, E 1555 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,040 Speaker 1: six is, E sevens on the team wanted to help me, 1556 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, get this ship done. They didn't didn't want 1557 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 1: to explain anything to me, right, They just they chose 1558 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,920 Speaker 1: me to do, uh, Soldier of the Year because I was, 1559 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,439 Speaker 1: you know, I was the fucking I was the lowest ranking. 1560 01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 1: So when I get in front of all these sergeant 1561 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,759 Speaker 1: majors and the sergeant major fucking Ashton Felters like, hey, hammer, 1562 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 1: uh you know name the four or five different types 1563 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,320 Speaker 1: of you know communication you can use out in the battlefield, 1564 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm like a B C D and text messaging. Sorry, major, 1565 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, like like I don't know, the regular army 1566 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:27,520 Speaker 1: is like place where I lost a certain amount of discipline. 1567 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 1: To be honest, I couldn't take it anymore. It's understandable, 1568 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:33,880 Speaker 1: and and so what are you doing currently in Germany 1569 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 1: right well, right now, I'm I'm I'm still going to 1570 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,679 Speaker 1: school like I go to Troy University. Well but most 1571 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm partially finished on actually pretty finished with 1572 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,000 Speaker 1: my major, which is a bachelor's degree in social work. 1573 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,720 Speaker 1: And I did go to school a little bit in 1574 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,960 Speaker 1: the United States, which is why I'm pretty much finishing 1575 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,879 Speaker 1: most of my degree online. And then um, I'm taking 1576 01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 1: German and Chinese. And then I'm I'm I'm planning on 1577 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,920 Speaker 1: applying to the Harvard School of Social Policy and um 1578 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,679 Speaker 1: with the Columbia School of Social Work, so that could 1579 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,200 Speaker 1: be out here in New York. And I also be 1580 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,439 Speaker 1: a alumni if you do it. Along with Jack Murphy. 1581 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,639 Speaker 1: I mean, we need people like you to to do 1582 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,240 Speaker 1: that type of stuff. And it's great to see guys 1583 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 1: who were in special operations getting higher education at these 1584 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,759 Speaker 1: like Ivy League universities and showing versatility and yeah, getting 1585 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 1: into social work to considering that you have direct firsthand 1586 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,919 Speaker 1: knowledge of the pitfalls of that whole program. So yeah, 1587 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna ask you. What are you 1588 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:43,599 Speaker 1: doing specifically for you know, um, your plan on bringing 1589 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,160 Speaker 1: attention to the social I mean to foster programming and 1590 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,559 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Well as as as bad as this sounds, um, 1591 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:57,760 Speaker 1: I like, okay, So I didn't really think about this 1592 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,600 Speaker 1: um in detail until I happened to speak to Antoine 1593 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:06,439 Speaker 1: Fisher um and yeah, and like he shared a little 1594 01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 1: bit of advice for me in terms of getting my 1595 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 1: story out there. And to be honest, initially, I wasn't 1596 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 1: focusing on trying to, um, you know, turn my story 1597 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,320 Speaker 1: into a movie or or a book. I wasn't interested 1598 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,479 Speaker 1: in that at all. I was. I was primarily set 1599 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 1: on exposing my story so that I could somehow help 1600 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,400 Speaker 1: other foster children that were transitioning out of foster care 1601 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 1: or other foster children that were being abused. Um. And slowly, 1602 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,280 Speaker 1: over the years, I start finding myself in the entertainment sphere. 1603 01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Um you know you probably know, but like I'm currently 1604 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 1: working on a you know, a book about my life 1605 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,600 Speaker 1: with the former creative executive at Lionsgate Studios. And the 1606 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 1: article that that Luke wrote that's all I've seen. Okay, 1607 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 1: um okay, So like like how it started was like, yeah, 1608 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 1: I started talking to Antoine Fisher and he gave me 1609 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 1: some guide some some pretty much guidance on how to 1610 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 1: like get my story out there, and like, um, you know, 1611 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 1: we talked about the military and then um, like a 1612 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,360 Speaker 1: year later, I got a call from Lucas Films. Like 1613 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 1: I got a call from someone at Lucas Films who 1614 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,320 Speaker 1: heard my story, right, and she was like, Curtis, you 1615 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 1: know you need to tell this story. It's inspirational. Like 1616 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 1: it made me cry. And and then after that I 1617 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:32,920 Speaker 1: was pretty much set on like trying to get the 1618 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:37,920 Speaker 1: story out there. Um. And then I had um the 1619 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 1: had Debora Gregory. Um, she is the CEO of Cheetah Rama, 1620 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 1: but she also did a movie or she wrote the 1621 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 1: the entire um. There's these books that she wrote. Um crap, 1622 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:58,040 Speaker 1: I forget. There were these books based on like the 1623 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,479 Speaker 1: singing group three ll W. I don't I forget. But anyway, 1624 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:06,200 Speaker 1: she came to me and she yeah, the Cheetah Girls. Yeah, 1625 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 1: that's the book. That's that's the book series. Yeah. I'm like, 1626 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 1: what are you doing reading this? I got Yeah, So 1627 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 1: she came to me and like we discussed like her 1628 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,400 Speaker 1: co writing the book, and then like from there it 1629 01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:21,760 Speaker 1: kind of got into this whole entertainment industry thing where 1630 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,479 Speaker 1: like I have um, you know, I have certain people 1631 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,400 Speaker 1: and for you know, I won't name them, but I 1632 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 1: have certain people from Hollywood and from the entertainment you know, 1633 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:35,280 Speaker 1: realm um, you know, talking to me about how interesting 1634 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,719 Speaker 1: and inspirational my story is and like how I should 1635 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, um put that into you know, a screenplay 1636 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 1: and a book. And you know, I had quite a 1637 01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,680 Speaker 1: few offers and I don't know, I guess I've had 1638 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people, so a lot of legitimate interests 1639 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:54,840 Speaker 1: in it. Um. Yeah, And so now I'm I'm I'm 1640 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 1: actively working on a screenplay with um tem Stabinski and 1641 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,719 Speaker 1: and and ry In or Luke right, And I'm sorry, 1642 01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:06,160 Speaker 1: obviously Luke started this whole thing. Um. He really really 1643 01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,760 Speaker 1: sort of sort of let the groundwork for me to 1644 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,759 Speaker 1: move forward with this. And and we're you know, currently 1645 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 1: working with a few people who are well known in 1646 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,320 Speaker 1: the industry, who are who are helping us get to 1647 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 1: that next level. So UM, I mean, my my ultimately, 1648 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,880 Speaker 1: my whole goal is to really you know, established from 1649 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,760 Speaker 1: sort of a platform in order to get out there 1650 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:34,400 Speaker 1: and and and and help foster kids, you know, talk 1651 01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,160 Speaker 1: to them and you know, like let them know that hey, 1652 01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm here with you. We're going to get through this, 1653 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,320 Speaker 1: and I guess ultimately I would like for um I 1654 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,360 Speaker 1: would like to help foster children sort of break into 1655 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,080 Speaker 1: the Ivy League, you know, and and and and do 1656 01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,679 Speaker 1: something like concretely do something with their lives, and maybe 1657 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 1: combine a nonprofit organization that I want to start, which 1658 01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,880 Speaker 1: I've already sort of you know, named Human by Design 1659 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,960 Speaker 1: with that of astronomy. I want to I want to 1660 01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,880 Speaker 1: get foster chosen out there to look at the stars 1661 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,640 Speaker 1: and and and find some inspiration in themselves. UM so 1662 01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:12,120 Speaker 1: they can do great things, you know, to to advance humanity. 1663 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's that sounds like a long shot, but 1664 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 1: that's pretty much. Yeah. But you got a dream, big man. 1665 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,400 Speaker 1: We'd love to make it happen, and we'll see it happen. 1666 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 1: And I knew Luke did some stuff with film. I 1667 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,120 Speaker 1: don't personally really know Luke, so um I mean that 1668 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,599 Speaker 1: makes sense that you guys are are looking into that. 1669 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,840 Speaker 1: Um last question I have before we wrap things up, 1670 01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,080 Speaker 1: and it's you know, more of a deeply physical philosophical question, 1671 01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,400 Speaker 1: but I feel like it just is appropriate with everything 1672 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,200 Speaker 1: that you just laid out for us in the past 1673 01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:45,240 Speaker 1: our plus, um So do you believe that everything happens 1674 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,760 Speaker 1: for a reason, or do you believe more it's just 1675 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 1: that you have to make the best of your circumstances, 1676 01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,240 Speaker 1: because it's like, look at this point that you're at now, 1677 01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 1: and it probably wouldn't have happened without all these terrible 1678 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,920 Speaker 1: things that you just discussed with us. I would say 1679 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:06,759 Speaker 1: it everything from my perspective, it feels like everything happens 1680 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 1: for a reason. Um. I can't say that everything that 1681 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:18,720 Speaker 1: I've gone through has been because it just is like 1682 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,000 Speaker 1: I feel like everything that I've I've gone through has 1683 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 1: prepared me for a certain point that I've reached and 1684 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:31,000 Speaker 1: that I've I've managed to overcome. Um. I mean it 1685 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:36,360 Speaker 1: could be um, you know, for example, you know, going 1686 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 1: to the range of regiment. You know, I didn't want 1687 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:43,400 Speaker 1: to do that, But at the same time, if I 1688 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,479 Speaker 1: had enough strength to overcome the anger I felt and 1689 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,679 Speaker 1: the blood lust I felt for for hurting my sister's rapist, 1690 01:31:52,320 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 1: which is impressive, I'm more surprised than anybody else, um, 1691 01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,120 Speaker 1: you know. And and if getting into range of regiment 1692 01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,720 Speaker 1: and being able to do everything that I did there 1693 01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,360 Speaker 1: and being able to be successful and being able to 1694 01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:12,200 Speaker 1: handle the stress um, and getting to where I've gotten 1695 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:15,120 Speaker 1: to now, you know, I mean I would, Yeah, I 1696 01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,160 Speaker 1: absolutely would have to say that it's it's it's it's 1697 01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:23,800 Speaker 1: all based on on UM shooting. I totally happening for 1698 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 1: a reason, right, Yeah, exactly, it's for a reason. Everything 1699 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,800 Speaker 1: is for a reason. And I mean I'm not a 1700 01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 1: god fearing well no, I am god fearing, but I'm 1701 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:37,679 Speaker 1: not necessarily religious. I'm more spiritual. But in my entire life, 1702 01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:42,080 Speaker 1: I've I've always felt that yeah, it's I'm being forced 1703 01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 1: somewhere and everything that I that I've been exposed to 1704 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,960 Speaker 1: an experience, some entity knows that I can handle it, 1705 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 1: and that's why I'm living it live. That's a great philosophy, man. Um, 1706 01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,559 Speaker 1: any any social media or or anything you're promoting before 1707 01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:00,720 Speaker 1: we wrap this up, UM, I would just say go 1708 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,720 Speaker 1: to uh Luke's soft Rep article about me. I mean, 1709 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not the big promoter. I I don't promote 1710 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,400 Speaker 1: really any anything at all. Um. I mean, surely you 1711 01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,800 Speaker 1: can add me on Facebook if you want. It's Curtis Albert's. UM. 1712 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,760 Speaker 1: I would just can I say some thanks? I guess, Um, 1713 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,920 Speaker 1: I would you know, I would ultimately say thank you 1714 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,960 Speaker 1: to Soft Rep Radio for giving me this opportunity to speak. Um, 1715 01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 1: I would thank Luke Ryan for for for being there 1716 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,280 Speaker 1: and supporting me throughout this entire um, this entire endeavor 1717 01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,439 Speaker 1: that we're trying to do ultimately bring awareness to foster 1718 01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:38,479 Speaker 1: care abuse in the United States. UM. And I would 1719 01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,759 Speaker 1: also say, you know, thank you to the I guess 1720 01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,880 Speaker 1: the you know, the seventy range of Regiment third range 1721 01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:46,400 Speaker 1: of Italian c CO for forgiving you the tools necessary 1722 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,000 Speaker 1: to sort of move on in life and and understand 1723 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:52,719 Speaker 1: and and and and realize what I'm capable of. Oh 1724 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,680 Speaker 1: and and Raina Ellison right well, her name used to 1725 01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:59,799 Speaker 1: be Raina Hind. But Raina Without rain I really honestly 1726 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,400 Speaker 1: could not have gotten this far in terms of being 1727 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:07,679 Speaker 1: absolutely involved and absolutely in love with this whole endeavor. 1728 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 1: So I absolutely thank you. All right, man, I feel 1729 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,720 Speaker 1: like you're at an award show or something. I know 1730 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,760 Speaker 1: I want to give you something, but I know we 1731 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,120 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. And if you do make it 1732 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,360 Speaker 1: out here to New York, it would be awesome. Navvy 1733 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,120 Speaker 1: and Studio. I will definitely and keep and keep us 1734 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:27,240 Speaker 1: in touch. You know you're you're holding back to Hollywood stuff. 1735 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta let us know. I don't. I 1736 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,040 Speaker 1: don't want to sound arrogant, you know, it's it's I'm 1737 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:36,040 Speaker 1: trying not to be that guy. You know, I don't 1738 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,840 Speaker 1: want to be that ranger that that sells out to Hollywood. 1739 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 1: Well you know that's not wrong with that either, but 1740 01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 1: you know you keep true to you're calling and you're 1741 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:47,919 Speaker 1: calling us to help those kids out. Man. Hey, thanks man, absolutely, apprecia. 1742 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,280 Speaker 1: Thanks Curtis. All right, Hey, no problem, Thank you guys 1743 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:55,120 Speaker 1: so much for the opportunity. Talk to you soon. All right, buddy, 1744 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,680 Speaker 1: great having h Curtis on with us, um, really in 1745 01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:01,880 Speaker 1: depth to interview, and thanks to Luke for giving that 1746 01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:05,320 Speaker 1: to us. All right, getting into emails here, I never 1747 01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:10,759 Speaker 1: thought that you would be called the communist, like crazy 1748 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:15,080 Speaker 1: right winger. Maybe not not a communist though, So you 1749 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:16,880 Speaker 1: want to hear the guy who called you a communist? 1750 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,840 Speaker 1: All right? So this is from uh, Well, he didn't 1751 01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,600 Speaker 1: sign it with his name, so I won't say his 1752 01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,880 Speaker 1: name just because you know, I always worry about if 1753 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 1: people are secretive. I mean, his name is Robert, but 1754 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of Roberts. I can say that much. Um, 1755 01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,720 Speaker 1: he did leave his phone number and everything, so if 1756 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,800 Speaker 1: you if you want to call it. Uh. When we 1757 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 1: got back from the annual reunion in Vegas, which was 1758 01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,439 Speaker 1: the s o A Special Operations Union, I was interested 1759 01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,000 Speaker 1: in following up, following on a lead to get in 1760 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 1: the loop for current affairs. Thus, I've been evaluating your 1761 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,960 Speaker 1: podcast trying to decide if I will earn anything which 1762 01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 1: interests me. And by the way, you'll you'll see what 1763 01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,160 Speaker 1: he says. But like, I have your back on this 1764 01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,200 Speaker 1: because I know where you were coming from with what 1765 01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,479 Speaker 1: you said. But he said, all right. Podcast three oh 1766 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,600 Speaker 1: eight today shows me the communists, Uh shows me the 1767 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,120 Speaker 1: communist site took great pleasure and removing might be influencing 1768 01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:09,519 Speaker 1: your writers. Come on, guys, you're open backing of Schumer 1769 01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,200 Speaker 1: and your remarks about how well in New York City runs. 1770 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,280 Speaker 1: Lets me know that you also support other communists to 1771 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,360 Speaker 1: Blasil and Bloomberg. It seems well, I just thought, it 1772 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:23,400 Speaker 1: seems other ny sears are unable to defend themselves, have 1773 01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:25,800 Speaker 1: no ability to think for themselves, and need to hire 1774 01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,920 Speaker 1: socialists to think for them. Please stick to informing us 1775 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,840 Speaker 1: about Sally and events affecting SAG science. Hawk thirty two 1776 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:37,880 Speaker 1: c C N five three. Your response, I love you, bro, 1777 01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 1: all right, and yeah, this ship was hard for me 1778 01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:45,000 Speaker 1: to have to swallow that pill and say something positive 1779 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,519 Speaker 1: about Chuck. But the truth is, I was here when 1780 01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,679 Speaker 1: New York was a fucking mess. I was here when 1781 01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,439 Speaker 1: my family members were being blown away with shotguns stab 1782 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, buck fifties across their face. I was here 1783 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,559 Speaker 1: when cops didn't even patrol in my neighborhood. I was 1784 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,479 Speaker 1: here for all that. I watched a lot of ship 1785 01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,559 Speaker 1: go down, you know, and you know, excuse the the emotion, 1786 01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:11,040 Speaker 1: and I'm but you gotta understand what what they did 1787 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:15,559 Speaker 1: this quote unquote socialist regime that came in starting with 1788 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, Juliani, then so on so forth. Fair there. 1789 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,960 Speaker 1: I think Schumer has been here through all that, yes, exactly. 1790 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,400 Speaker 1: But my point is to where it's at right now. 1791 01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,120 Speaker 1: I have to get credit where credit is, dude. That 1792 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,679 Speaker 1: New York is nothing like it was in the nineties 1793 01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,479 Speaker 1: and the eighties. And that's I'm just calling it the 1794 01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:33,040 Speaker 1: way I see it. Yeah, I was gonna say, so 1795 01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,960 Speaker 1: I know you better than someone who just listens to 1796 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,040 Speaker 1: one listen to one pod. What it sounded like, so 1797 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,559 Speaker 1: I already knew that you were not like some big 1798 01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,160 Speaker 1: Chuck Shumer family. In fact, he needs to take a 1799 01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,479 Speaker 1: see he needed you need to retire, you know. So 1800 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,960 Speaker 1: the way that I interpreted what you were saying, we 1801 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,679 Speaker 1: were just talking about like why are we were talking 1802 01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,400 Speaker 1: about incumbents and like why hasn't Schumer been voted at? 1803 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,479 Speaker 1: And I think you were just saying to the people 1804 01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:59,880 Speaker 1: in New York City, it's like, if things are going well, 1805 01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,400 Speaker 1: there's no other tariffs attack, they just kind of go 1806 01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:04,679 Speaker 1: with what they know and this is who they because 1807 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:09,760 Speaker 1: we've always had strict gun laws in New York. We've 1808 01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:13,000 Speaker 1: always had strict laws period. I mean, you know, we're 1809 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:17,479 Speaker 1: highly regulated. This is you would consider a New York 1810 01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 1: City a police state. You know, it is controlled by 1811 01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,920 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of police officers, and they do it 1812 01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:24,439 Speaker 1: well because they've been doing it for a long time. 1813 01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,320 Speaker 1: And the average citizen in New York is used to 1814 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,640 Speaker 1: walking a very thin line. But the fact that the 1815 01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:34,280 Speaker 1: matter is, you're not going to get someone inspired or 1816 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,799 Speaker 1: or or excited about the Second Amendment that's never lived 1817 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,840 Speaker 1: with the privilege of the Second Amendment. It's just a 1818 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,840 Speaker 1: lot of New Yorkers are like that. All they care 1819 01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,240 Speaker 1: about is when they're you know, how much money they 1820 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,280 Speaker 1: have for their coffee and if you know the train 1821 01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,679 Speaker 1: is going to be delayed or not. It's like we 1822 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,080 Speaker 1: we live in such a this is such a such 1823 01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,200 Speaker 1: a bubble, such a hustle and bustling bubble, that we 1824 01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,800 Speaker 1: don't have time to look past in front of us. 1825 01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, we just is now cool? Yeah, now it's cool. 1826 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,599 Speaker 1: I'm good, you know. And that's that's the basic New 1827 01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 1: York mentality. I agree with that. Yeah, I didn't take 1828 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,960 Speaker 1: what you were saying as an endorsement, but I like 1829 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,679 Speaker 1: to see what I what. I like to see more 1830 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:15,160 Speaker 1: Republicans in charge of municipality. Fuck yeah, hell yeah. I 1831 01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,600 Speaker 1: want I want to be able to carry, you know, 1832 01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,519 Speaker 1: I want to be able to defend, you know, even 1833 01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:23,360 Speaker 1: with the strict gun laws which aren't going away. I 1834 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,240 Speaker 1: would think it isn't the most farfetched thing to say 1835 01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,960 Speaker 1: that if someone is a highly decorated Marine Scott sniper, 1836 01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,880 Speaker 1: someone is a Navy seal like Brandon Webb, they're as 1837 01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 1: trained as you could possibly be with firearms. Like, if 1838 01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:36,839 Speaker 1: you don't want to allow someone like me to carry, 1839 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,080 Speaker 1: I get it. But guys like you, honestly in most cases, 1840 01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,800 Speaker 1: are more trained than the police. So why shouldn't you 1841 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,880 Speaker 1: be allowed to open carry or concealed carry Because I 1842 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,320 Speaker 1: feel like if there is an emergency scenario, would want it, 1843 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,479 Speaker 1: would probably be the better guy than the average police officer. 1844 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that's or the average citizen. Yeah, you know, 1845 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,679 Speaker 1: because you know what I mean. But what I'm saying 1846 01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:58,280 Speaker 1: is all the money that went into my training or 1847 01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, vice versa. I mean in another veteran like 1848 01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,640 Speaker 1: Brandon or you know, so everything that went into that 1849 01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,360 Speaker 1: person to to the point where, like I said, I mean, 1850 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 1: if he's up to par with his skill set, you know, 1851 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:15,080 Speaker 1: he has a conditioned response for these crappy situations that 1852 01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,640 Speaker 1: require someone to respond with weapons. So yeah, I get it, 1853 01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 1: and it's a hundred percent percent right. I think what 1854 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,799 Speaker 1: they're fearing is, you know, having that that that direct, 1855 01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:29,080 Speaker 1: open acknowledgement of a veteran being able to help in 1856 01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:34,000 Speaker 1: a situation like that, and also having to accept that's 1857 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:39,040 Speaker 1: that that arena comes with guys with mental issues, and 1858 01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:40,599 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the big problem. No one 1859 01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,439 Speaker 1: wants to address that, and no one wants to separate 1860 01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:44,680 Speaker 1: the two. And I've been a big advocate of separating 1861 01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:47,560 Speaker 1: the two. Where there's guys that are completely distraught that 1862 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:49,840 Speaker 1: some can't function. I get it. There's some veterans that 1863 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,200 Speaker 1: are really tore up, you know, I get it. And 1864 01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,360 Speaker 1: it's a scary thing, you know, having to separate that. 1865 01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,360 Speaker 1: There's veterans that are not tore up. That's veterans that 1866 01:40:57,439 --> 01:40:59,920 Speaker 1: perfectly fine. It wouldn't be unfair to say that if 1867 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,600 Speaker 1: you want to conceal carrying your veteran go through psychiatric evaluations. 1868 01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm sort of me if you want to do it, 1869 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be uh an unacceptable thing. 1870 01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 1: And also, you hear about these look NYPD are great, 1871 01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,640 Speaker 1: we love them, but you do hear about in instances 1872 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,920 Speaker 1: these crazy shoots where they just they and the whole 1873 01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,519 Speaker 1: magazine and yeah, and and like you is not going 1874 01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 1: to do that. So anyway, I figured would clear that 1875 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,760 Speaker 1: one up. This one the right wing thing. I could 1876 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,920 Speaker 1: at least see this guy's response here. Uh So, this 1877 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,200 Speaker 1: is from Bob sent to Softwrep dot Radio Softrep dot 1878 01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:37,040 Speaker 1: com as well. Um, and I take issue with a 1879 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:38,960 Speaker 1: little bit of what you said, but here's what we'll here, 1880 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,680 Speaker 1: we'll get into it because I like to read the 1881 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:44,120 Speaker 1: positive and the negative guys. I I read all the emails. Um, 1882 01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,599 Speaker 1: it seems that both of you, I guess meaning both 1883 01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,719 Speaker 1: of us, Yet, says Ian and Jason still don't understand 1884 01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,240 Speaker 1: that there are many liberal Democrats that are serving active 1885 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,679 Speaker 1: duty and all the armed forces branches. And Jason still 1886 01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,280 Speaker 1: doesn't understand that the U. S. Military is not a 1887 01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:02,200 Speaker 1: private republican party club that is exclusive to only right wingers. 1888 01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,360 Speaker 1: You Ian never call him on a ship because of 1889 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:08,200 Speaker 1: whatever fear you may have of Delgado. I do not 1890 01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,720 Speaker 1: fear choose my ass on like four times a week. 1891 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not lying. I get chewed out by Ian 1892 01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,479 Speaker 1: a lot. Well, I'm gonna I'll give my explanation for 1893 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,080 Speaker 1: the rest of this um. Will Cow also seems to 1894 01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:22,559 Speaker 1: think there are no liberals and Democrats getting shot at 1895 01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 1: overseas well. To be fair, Andrew will Cow is a 1896 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:29,679 Speaker 1: right wing radio talk show host. He's always gonna have. Also, 1897 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,439 Speaker 1: both of you no mention of the private meetings of 1898 01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,960 Speaker 1: politicians on the right and right wing organizational reps meeting 1899 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:40,240 Speaker 1: to dismantle the VA Hospital system Associated press article research 1900 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,960 Speaker 1: It Um, all right, I'll address that last point first, 1901 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 1: which you might have some insight into as well. The 1902 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:49,200 Speaker 1: Republican UM standpoint on this, whatever you may feel about it, 1903 01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 1: because I've heard it many times that they want to 1904 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:53,519 Speaker 1: give vouchers so that these guys don't have to go 1905 01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,120 Speaker 1: through the v A and that they can go through 1906 01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,320 Speaker 1: the private health care system. So to say that they're 1907 01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:00,280 Speaker 1: just dismantling the the VA hospital system, it's kind of 1908 01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,439 Speaker 1: half of the story. Because we hear all these complaints 1909 01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,920 Speaker 1: about the v A. So it's a Republican solution which 1910 01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,519 Speaker 1: you might agree with you might not agree with, of 1911 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,760 Speaker 1: them saying all right, give them a healthcare plan and 1912 01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,360 Speaker 1: they go through the free market like everybody else. But 1913 01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:17,400 Speaker 1: it's not like we're gonna take away your healthcare completely. 1914 01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 1: So I don't think that's the most fair. So I'm 1915 01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm still service connected. So UM I have a 1916 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,679 Speaker 1: card that allows me to go to a private doctor 1917 01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,639 Speaker 1: if I want to say I'm traveling or something, and 1918 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:36,040 Speaker 1: if that doctor is accepting of the program, that's the thing. 1919 01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:37,800 Speaker 1: They have to be a part of it, have to 1920 01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,120 Speaker 1: be accepting participant of the program. They can see me 1921 01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:45,000 Speaker 1: and build a v A. So that's that's awesome, because 1922 01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:47,880 Speaker 1: you know the v A is let's just say, the 1923 01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,680 Speaker 1: v A and the Bronx. How many hospitals are in 1924 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:54,720 Speaker 1: the Bronx. That's probably Let's see, you got uh, you know, 1925 01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,800 Speaker 1: you got Monte Fury, you got St. Barn and blah 1926 01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,040 Speaker 1: bla blah blah whatever, like three or four, all right, 1927 01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:01,920 Speaker 1: and one of them is the VA. So if you're 1928 01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,439 Speaker 1: looking at it from a veteran's point of view, out 1929 01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:06,680 Speaker 1: of those four or five that I that you know, 1930 01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 1: we have in one uh one city, we are only 1931 01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,280 Speaker 1: capable of going to one, where every other person with 1932 01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:15,880 Speaker 1: healthcare is capable of going to the other four. So 1933 01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:20,240 Speaker 1: that being said, how overwhelmed is that one v A facility? Yeah? 1934 01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,880 Speaker 1: I always hear about the way times from my veteran fen. Yeah, 1935 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,280 Speaker 1: and this is the only v A U in this 1936 01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,240 Speaker 1: Tristate area, you know, and on that tri state. I'm 1937 01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,600 Speaker 1: sorry that gone. Um Yeah, the five barrels. So that 1938 01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,639 Speaker 1: is an extremely overwhelmed hospital. Yet they do a good 1939 01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,640 Speaker 1: enough job. I have none complaints about the VA. Oh. 1940 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,600 Speaker 1: Here in New York, I hear half and half. I 1941 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:43,720 Speaker 1: feel like, I don't know, personal experience. Yeah, not in 1942 01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,439 Speaker 1: New York. I just mean in general in the podcast, 1943 01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:47,800 Speaker 1: cause I hear it. You. Half the guys I hear complainants. 1944 01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:51,519 Speaker 1: Half the guys that hear that they not it. I 1945 01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,559 Speaker 1: hear it too, And I'm not gonna say, oh, that's 1946 01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:55,960 Speaker 1: not my experience, so you're lying. Yeah, it's also you 1947 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:57,320 Speaker 1: don't you don't know what the v A is like 1948 01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:01,440 Speaker 1: in Texas. I don't know, yeah, which I heard. Um, 1949 01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, Brandon, I remember wrote an article that was 1950 01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,719 Speaker 1: basically like, if you want to honor Chris Kyle, fix 1951 01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,599 Speaker 1: the v A system where he's from? And is it Houston? 1952 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:12,519 Speaker 1: I know he's in from Texas, but either way where 1953 01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,200 Speaker 1: he is apparently they're having a lot of issues. So 1954 01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 1: he was like, who cares about making this national Chris 1955 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,439 Speaker 1: Kyle there or whatever? I think he would want to 1956 01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,559 Speaker 1: fix the v A system, was his point. I remember 1957 01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:24,639 Speaker 1: him writing that. All Right, I'm gonna address the point 1958 01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,280 Speaker 1: about me real quick, and then I'll let Jason it is. 1959 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,920 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I kind of addressed this earlier 1960 01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,240 Speaker 1: on the show. Um, I don't agree with what everything 1961 01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,480 Speaker 1: Jason says on the podcast or everything Jackson's on the podcast, 1962 01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,920 Speaker 1: But the thing is, I've kind of taken a back 1963 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,400 Speaker 1: seat because this is not really a debate show. If 1964 01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,040 Speaker 1: I were to debate every point that Jason says, like, 1965 01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:46,680 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be able to get into the interviews or 1966 01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,439 Speaker 1: or the Jackson's Like we had Derek on recently, it 1967 01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,200 Speaker 1: was definitely more left wing, and I'm not gonna waste 1968 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,520 Speaker 1: my time debating every single point that he makes. Um. 1969 01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,080 Speaker 1: You know, I remember early on in the podcast, I 1970 01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,200 Speaker 1: actually did spend more time giving opinion on things, and 1971 01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:02,960 Speaker 1: I would get so many emails that were like, We're 1972 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,280 Speaker 1: not here to listen to your opinions. You weren't special operations. 1973 01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:08,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, cool, point take it. 1974 01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,160 Speaker 1: And now I get shipped for doing the opposite, which 1975 01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,280 Speaker 1: is just kind of funny to me because I actually 1976 01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,640 Speaker 1: think the original point makes sense. The only time I 1977 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,120 Speaker 1: do call people out is when I factually feel like 1978 01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,240 Speaker 1: they have something completely wrong and we'll address it later. 1979 01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the most recent example I could think of 1980 01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:26,880 Speaker 1: is I had to I just I was eating it. 1981 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,719 Speaker 1: I had to say something when Brandon mentioned the the 1982 01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:33,920 Speaker 1: gender pay gap, because the gender pay gap stuff has 1983 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,400 Speaker 1: been really disproven. You can look at the statistics of 1984 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:39,400 Speaker 1: like the majors that women go into. They go to 1985 01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,880 Speaker 1: childhood education and things like that that don't pay a 1986 01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:45,520 Speaker 1: lot by choice, they don't go into like petroleum engineering. 1987 01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,439 Speaker 1: That's a male dominated field, and trust me, they would 1988 01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,560 Speaker 1: love to have women there, but women don't want to 1989 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,439 Speaker 1: risk their lives to be a patroleum engineer. So I 1990 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,600 Speaker 1: like if it's something like that, but if it's a 1991 01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:58,200 Speaker 1: matter of opinion, or if it's something you know, you 1992 01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:02,280 Speaker 1: made that statement about the renewable oil style, yea, I 1993 01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,479 Speaker 1: personally don't know enough, so I'm not going to spend 1994 01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,080 Speaker 1: my time debating you on something that I'm really not 1995 01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,600 Speaker 1: an expert on. Um. But yeah, I don't like this 1996 01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:11,200 Speaker 1: to be a debate show, like to be a forum 1997 01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:13,280 Speaker 1: for guys to get it to be quite honest, and 1998 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,120 Speaker 1: if we were really truly a hundred percent worried about 1999 01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,719 Speaker 1: what every human being had to say about as positive 2000 01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:21,799 Speaker 1: or negative, we wouldn't even be speaking. Yeah, this podcast 2001 01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:25,080 Speaker 1: will probably be not a podcast. I was gonna say 2002 01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:26,960 Speaker 1: typed out, but no, you probably still you know, it'll 2003 01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,760 Speaker 1: be like one like back and forth chat room. Dude. 2004 01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:33,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll give you a perfect example right here. Um, 2005 01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,240 Speaker 1: when we had Kristen back on the on the podcast. 2006 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,120 Speaker 1: The first time, I remember, we got all this ship 2007 01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:40,519 Speaker 1: that we're like, why are you um endorsing this whole 2008 01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:43,320 Speaker 1: transgender agenda? Why would you have someone like this in 2009 01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,080 Speaker 1: the podcast? We got a whole bunch of crap for it. 2010 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,640 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I love having Kristen back on 2011 01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,840 Speaker 1: the podcast, and I love hearing about Kristen's experience. Now, 2012 01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,519 Speaker 1: if you want to know my opinion on the whole 2013 01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:57,720 Speaker 1: transgender issue, I'll just say it differs very much so 2014 01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,960 Speaker 1: from how Kristen would view this. But but the reason 2015 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:02,960 Speaker 1: we'd have someone like Christen on the podcast is to 2016 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,680 Speaker 1: talk about their experience. It's not for me to have 2017 01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:07,920 Speaker 1: a debate over, you know, if you could be born 2018 01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:10,120 Speaker 1: into the wrong body or not, because you could turn 2019 01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:12,080 Speaker 1: on the mainstream media and here then we're supposed to 2020 01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,120 Speaker 1: be like a departure from that. Anyway, what you have 2021 01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:16,280 Speaker 1: before on on what this guy said about you and 2022 01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,280 Speaker 1: not know and then I don't know what did you 2023 01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,040 Speaker 1: say about talking? Why why don't we talk about the 2024 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,160 Speaker 1: secret meetings or something like that? Well, the v A 2025 01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:27,840 Speaker 1: hospital private meetings and politicians about that private meeting crap? 2026 01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:30,360 Speaker 1: Why are we not talking about the private meetings held 2027 01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,559 Speaker 1: on tarmax, you know what I mean? Like, I also 2028 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,800 Speaker 1: don't think you know where he says. Jason still doesn't 2029 01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:38,160 Speaker 1: understand the US is not a private Republican party. Oh yeah, yeah, 2030 01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,479 Speaker 1: he thinks. I I think everyone in the military is 2031 01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:44,720 Speaker 1: a Republican. No, but the majority of people that have 2032 01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:51,040 Speaker 1: served in combat don't come home and expect handbouts, you know. 2033 01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:55,080 Speaker 1: And that's crazy, because if anybody in this society deserves handbouts, 2034 01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,080 Speaker 1: it's someone that put their life on the line and 2035 01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:58,800 Speaker 1: was injured as a result of it, so on and 2036 01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:02,200 Speaker 1: so forth, or even went to some sort of mental distress. 2037 01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:04,679 Speaker 1: You know. My point is, if anyone should ask for handouts, 2038 01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:06,439 Speaker 1: it would be a veteran right. But yet we don't, 2039 01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, And then we have people that are just 2040 01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, disenfranchised, you can say whatever, and they just 2041 01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,759 Speaker 1: get stuck into this system where it's just, you know, okay, 2042 01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,240 Speaker 1: government's got me. I really don't have to set forth 2043 01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,320 Speaker 1: any effort, and if I do, you're gonna get penalized 2044 01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,200 Speaker 1: for it, you know. Like I don't agree with that, 2045 01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:26,720 Speaker 1: But on average, the average veteran has sacrifice, sacrificed so 2046 01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,639 Speaker 1: much when they come home, they're not a liberal. Even 2047 01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:32,120 Speaker 1: if they are, they're probably more libertarian. You know what 2048 01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean? Well, yeah, because I was gonna say, I 2049 01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:37,519 Speaker 1: the whole there's if you was a refrigerator mechanic in 2050 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,640 Speaker 1: the army, yeah, you could be on it because you 2051 01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,679 Speaker 1: didn't do ship. Okay, I'm gonna be on it, Puss, 2052 01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,080 Speaker 1: and honest with you, you can be an a black 2053 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,519 Speaker 1: activist and be in the army, but I guarantee you 2054 01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:48,439 Speaker 1: you haven't fought next to that white boy that fucking 2055 01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:50,920 Speaker 1: saved your life. I'm gonna say that right now, because 2056 01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:55,280 Speaker 1: then you realize that that true honor, true patriotism, true 2057 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:58,920 Speaker 1: respect for your country, transcends color and race. And then 2058 01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,720 Speaker 1: once you understand that, that goes beyond, you know, any 2059 01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,720 Speaker 1: political affiliation. It's just hard work. The more hard work 2060 01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:06,320 Speaker 1: you put in, the more you get back out of life. 2061 01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,160 Speaker 1: And we see that and because of the military forces 2062 01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,679 Speaker 1: you to learn that unless, like I said, you weren't 2063 01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:13,880 Speaker 1: doing jack ship. Another thing I was gonna say is 2064 01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,439 Speaker 1: just that I think we limit ourselves with the labels 2065 01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,920 Speaker 1: of like conservative, liberal, because most people are not on 2066 01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:25,120 Speaker 1: one thing. But I do think the military leans conservative. 2067 01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:26,720 Speaker 1: I guess you could say on this one thing is 2068 01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:31,719 Speaker 1: that they like politically correct agenda being shoved down everyone's throat. 2069 01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:36,360 Speaker 1: It just doesn't appeal to people in the military in general. Um, 2070 01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:39,840 Speaker 1: because I've talked to you guys like guys in the military, 2071 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,360 Speaker 1: regardless of color, aren't could be going to be offended 2072 01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,880 Speaker 1: by every little thing that you say as opposed to 2073 01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:49,760 Speaker 1: like I see these millennials. Yeah, so, but you know 2074 01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:54,760 Speaker 1: that's one issue, like what are military veterans positions on, um, 2075 01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, tax reform or abortion or like it has 2076 01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:01,719 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the military, so that the answers 2077 01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:03,960 Speaker 1: to that are probably all over the board. Yeah, like 2078 01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:05,840 Speaker 1: what does that have to do anybody serving or what 2079 01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,880 Speaker 1: their political affiliations. And my point is the majority. I 2080 01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:10,840 Speaker 1: would say, you can't say here and tell me the 2081 01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:14,400 Speaker 1: majority of the military is liberal. That doesn't make any sense. 2082 01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,519 Speaker 1: I would agree with that, And just as a guy 2083 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,000 Speaker 1: who's talked to guys in the military, that's my point. 2084 01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,000 Speaker 1: But I will give you that I'm not. Yeah, if 2085 01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,840 Speaker 1: it came across as if I am a thousand percent 2086 01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,120 Speaker 1: certain that everyone in the military is a conservative, I 2087 01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,639 Speaker 1: I apologize. That's not the message. I was I. I'm 2088 01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,080 Speaker 1: pretty open, dude, I think I am. If you want 2089 01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:33,760 Speaker 1: to be gay, you want to be a liberal, you 2090 01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:36,080 Speaker 1: want to be a conservative, you want, I don't care. 2091 01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,360 Speaker 1: You kind of have to be living New York for 2092 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,640 Speaker 1: the most part. You crazy. And I can't wave my 2093 01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,280 Speaker 1: flag around everywhere I go either over here because it's 2094 01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:46,519 Speaker 1: not popular. It's actually fun, you know, I'll say this, 2095 01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,439 Speaker 1: man during UM and I'm all for everybody too, but 2096 01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,200 Speaker 1: during like gay Pride, is it just week or month 2097 01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,559 Speaker 1: or I don't even know, but you genuinely will see 2098 01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,920 Speaker 1: rainbow flags everywhere, way more than you see the American flag. 2099 01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:01,320 Speaker 1: And that's just kind of weird. No, it is crazy 2100 01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,439 Speaker 1: because I have no problem with people who are who 2101 01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:06,800 Speaker 1: are proud of um, you know, what their sexual orientation 2102 01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,840 Speaker 1: is and all that. But like I do think, first 2103 01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,720 Speaker 1: and foremost we're Americans. Yeah, you know, you know, you 2104 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:13,600 Speaker 1: don't see the craze on the fourth of July. You 2105 01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:15,439 Speaker 1: don't see you know, all up and down you know, 2106 01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,519 Speaker 1: these large avenues. You know, American flags left and right now, 2107 01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:20,880 Speaker 1: but you see, you know, the gay flags, gay pride flags. 2108 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,280 Speaker 1: That's cool with me, I get it, but come on, 2109 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, give give give the give America where you're 2110 01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:30,400 Speaker 1: able to exercise this you know, uh, this freedom of 2111 01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:35,519 Speaker 1: being sexually uh free. Give give America the credit and 2112 01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:37,240 Speaker 1: do the same thing for America. Let's see some flags 2113 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,320 Speaker 1: out here. Let's be proud of what we got, which 2114 01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:43,320 Speaker 1: is why we need more guys like Amatoloney damn straight. Um. 2115 01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,599 Speaker 1: All right, and we'll go over these real quick, because 2116 01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:49,719 Speaker 1: we're doing a long show here. But Curtis was great, Um. Trump. 2117 01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:52,559 Speaker 1: You know, the new national security rolled out. I heard 2118 01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,040 Speaker 1: Morty scope and talking about the new policy in Afghanistan 2119 01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:59,519 Speaker 1: with Andrew will Cow actually yesterday. So I'll just read 2120 01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:04,240 Speaker 1: from this article, um, which I believe is originally from ABC. UM. 2121 01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,160 Speaker 1: Our new strategy is based on a principle of realism, 2122 01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:10,839 Speaker 1: guided by our national interests and rooted in our timeless values. 2123 01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:14,120 Speaker 1: The strategy recognizes that, whether we like it or not, 2124 01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:17,160 Speaker 1: we are engaged in a new era of competition. Trump said. 2125 01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:20,240 Speaker 1: The strategy outlined three major threats to the United States. 2126 01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,320 Speaker 1: Rogue regimes including North Korea and Iran, that support terror 2127 01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:28,240 Speaker 1: and pursue weapons of mass destruction. Rival powers including China 2128 01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:31,799 Speaker 1: and Russia that seek to challenge American influence of values 2129 01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:37,280 Speaker 1: and wealth, and transnational terrorist organizations, including radical Islamist groups 2130 01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:41,320 Speaker 1: that constantly seek new ways to attack the United States. UM. 2131 01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,719 Speaker 1: And then it has a few other things in here. 2132 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a longer article, but you know 2133 01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:50,400 Speaker 1: what I got from Marty Scoveland was that, for one, 2134 01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,720 Speaker 1: he said that Afghani special forces when he was over 2135 01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:58,280 Speaker 1: there really were nothing impressive. They've made great strides. And 2136 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,960 Speaker 1: also he feels that this kind ends the um free 2137 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 1: handouts for this part of the world, and it's like, 2138 01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to show us that you're making progress 2139 01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,120 Speaker 1: on your own. But he also said to Andrew, I 2140 01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,760 Speaker 1: don't see us leaving there anytime soon enough. We'll have 2141 01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,120 Speaker 1: a long term presence there, the same way we have 2142 01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:19,240 Speaker 1: in Germany, Japan, etcetera. And it's that is exactly what 2143 01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:23,720 Speaker 1: I gathered from what was put out, and it's but 2144 01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:26,959 Speaker 1: what I see more is a focus on the training 2145 01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,520 Speaker 1: aspect now that that to me is outlined as a priority. 2146 01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,720 Speaker 1: It was always the mission, especially as push special operations 2147 01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:37,200 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, it has always been the mission to train 2148 01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:40,800 Speaker 1: the foreign nationals how to defend themselves so that they 2149 01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:43,520 Speaker 1: can in turn do it for themselves. You know, teach 2150 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:45,240 Speaker 1: them how to teach them how to fish, and they'll 2151 01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,560 Speaker 1: be fed forever, you know. So that's what our that's 2152 01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,760 Speaker 1: what our idea is. But this time around it became 2153 01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,600 Speaker 1: a highlight, came a priority. Now, So that being said, 2154 01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,920 Speaker 1: numbers wise, we're not gonna see any changes. In fact, 2155 01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:58,800 Speaker 1: it will probably increase a bit. But what I believe 2156 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,640 Speaker 1: is now that that is priority, that is going to 2157 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:05,920 Speaker 1: be scrutinized to a certain degree. So um, now you're 2158 01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:09,400 Speaker 1: gonna get people, like you said, requiring results for that. 2159 01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,840 Speaker 1: So if I'm training you to be special operations, I'm 2160 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,080 Speaker 1: training you to do raids and you know, pick up 2161 01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,960 Speaker 1: hvt s high value targets. I want to start seeing that. Now, 2162 01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:19,680 Speaker 1: don't give me crap. Don't tell me you don't have 2163 01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:21,880 Speaker 1: any intel. Here's here's the intel. Show me what you 2164 01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:23,560 Speaker 1: can do. So could you know, we want to make 2165 01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,240 Speaker 1: sure that they're you know, they're just not taking our money, 2166 01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:29,240 Speaker 1: not taking our our very valuable lessons and just saying 2167 01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:32,400 Speaker 1: all right thanks. And you know it's in other words, 2168 01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,760 Speaker 1: we're trying to prevent another missoul. Why pull out? You 2169 01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:37,760 Speaker 1: see what happened over there? We left that power vacuum 2170 01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,160 Speaker 1: and next, you know, the birth of ISIS and now 2171 01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:41,960 Speaker 1: we have to deal with what we're dealing with now 2172 01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,720 Speaker 1: because of a result of that, if we pull out 2173 01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:50,200 Speaker 1: of Afghanistan, now, holy crap, it is gonna be the 2174 01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:57,640 Speaker 1: craziest resurgence of Islamic terrorism in the world because Afghanistan 2175 01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:03,360 Speaker 1: is huge and the the the government of Afghanistan, you know, 2176 01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,440 Speaker 1: granted they have a big brother the United States there, 2177 01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:10,000 Speaker 1: but without US, I mean I see a lot of 2178 01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:12,720 Speaker 1: factions coming in and taking over and even think about it, 2179 01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,160 Speaker 1: a lot of them working through the politics as well. 2180 01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, that's their goal. They want that caliphate and 2181 01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't see what out our help, it's not going 2182 01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,040 Speaker 1: that way. So you know, if we leave, that region 2183 01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,040 Speaker 1: is going to turn into one of the biggest producers 2184 01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:29,400 Speaker 1: of its Lamicer streamers we have, hands down. Yeah, I 2185 01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:33,600 Speaker 1: think the uh, you know, politicians have this incentive to say, oh, 2186 01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:36,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna pull out because people in America almost have 2187 01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:38,400 Speaker 1: their blinders on, like we're not over there. We don't 2188 01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,400 Speaker 1: see what's gonna happen. We just know that we have 2189 01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,880 Speaker 1: possibly friends and family members over there, and we want 2190 01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:44,880 Speaker 1: to see them back home. You don't think of the 2191 01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:48,760 Speaker 1: long term implications of that. UM Marty also brought up 2192 01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:52,720 Speaker 1: a really interesting point about Afghanistan and the reality of 2193 01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:57,880 Speaker 1: the situation was that what's funding terrorism is the opioid stuff. 2194 01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:00,240 Speaker 1: And he was talking about how we have to based 2195 01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:03,800 Speaker 1: it in America. We are by far, he was consistent 2196 01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:07,520 Speaker 1: of opioids, like and it's not even close. He was 2197 01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:11,520 Speaker 1: reading all the statistics of of how, you know, how 2198 01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,240 Speaker 1: uh far ahead we are in terms of the rest 2199 01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:16,440 Speaker 1: of the world of just consuming off the street opioids, 2200 01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:18,800 Speaker 1: and he was saying, like, if you're buying this stuff 2201 01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:22,320 Speaker 1: off the street, you're supporting terrorism. So I thought that 2202 01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:26,760 Speaker 1: was a pretty uh crazy reality. And and more so, um, 2203 01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:31,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about direct policy with Afghanistan and what whatever 2204 01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:35,200 Speaker 1: we allowed to occur, what what um, what outcome that 2205 01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:38,440 Speaker 1: has on our potential goal? Right? So you know we've 2206 01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:42,360 Speaker 1: experienced we've experimented with a lot of programs over there politically. UM. 2207 01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:45,440 Speaker 1: One was that Heroin buyback program, you know, and that 2208 01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,160 Speaker 1: was crazy because we promised to buy up to a 2209 01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:53,080 Speaker 1: hack hector of opium or poppy from the farmers that 2210 01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:57,160 Speaker 1: were already established poppy growers, right, and what they said, 2211 01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:59,640 Speaker 1: and this the goal was the long term goal was 2212 01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,640 Speaker 1: to prevent them or to keep them from selling to 2213 01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:07,240 Speaker 1: Taliban and then Taliban being able to intern sell that 2214 01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:10,720 Speaker 1: and make bank right. So that was our rationalization of 2215 01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:14,480 Speaker 1: buying the oil opioids. Right. Turns out that they're like cool, 2216 01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:18,240 Speaker 1: America just signed on to be a consistent client every 2217 01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:22,360 Speaker 1: month and they're gonna buy a hector, but they'll grow 2218 01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,120 Speaker 1: another freaking two three hectors and sell it to Taliban 2219 01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,320 Speaker 1: and still collect American money. So that policy alone was 2220 01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:30,280 Speaker 1: just bananas, you know what I mean. And when you 2221 01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:33,080 Speaker 1: think about stuff like that, like, who the hell doesn't 2222 01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:35,280 Speaker 1: play these situations out to the end in their mind 2223 01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:37,360 Speaker 1: and say, yeah, this, let's go with. This is gonna 2224 01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,280 Speaker 1: be great. And I think, I think, now it's going 2225 01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:41,600 Speaker 1: to be different. Yeah, you know what I was thinking about. 2226 01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,240 Speaker 1: It's like this vicious cycle of like you have the 2227 01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:48,800 Speaker 1: guy who joins the military, goes over there um to 2228 01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:53,120 Speaker 1: fight the Taliban, to fight terrorists, to fight isis um, 2229 01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:58,040 Speaker 1: possibly comes back with PTSD, possibly gets addicted to this stuff, 2230 01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:01,000 Speaker 1: and then is buying the drug from the people that 2231 01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:03,200 Speaker 1: he was over there fighting. That came to my mind, 2232 01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:06,880 Speaker 1: that's happening. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's happening. Yeah, I 2233 01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:13,280 Speaker 1: mean it's we say in my last last gig contracting whatever, 2234 01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,240 Speaker 1: my first gig contracting, we had a team leader in 2235 01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:19,640 Speaker 1: his favorite saying was too easy, that's all too easy. 2236 01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,480 Speaker 1: And I mean when you go when you go to 2237 01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:26,000 Speaker 1: Iraq or Afghanistan or ship in Mexico, when you go 2238 01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:29,680 Speaker 1: to another country, relax regulations and standards, like you could 2239 01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:32,360 Speaker 1: literally like buy drugs over the counter. You know, it's 2240 01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:34,560 Speaker 1: too easy over there to get that stuff because there's 2241 01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,160 Speaker 1: really no regulations to that crap, you know, and and 2242 01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:39,520 Speaker 1: it's it's such a big pot. In fact, alcohol is 2243 01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:45,160 Speaker 1: more regulated in Afghanistan and Iraq than hash or heroin 2244 01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:48,000 Speaker 1: or whatever it is of the region. You know, alcohol 2245 01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:51,000 Speaker 1: is like, oh that's ultimate sin. But yet does the 2246 01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:53,680 Speaker 1: government nazee money from that? Is that why? I don't know. 2247 01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:55,720 Speaker 1: And they don't want to like agree to sell it 2248 01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:58,520 Speaker 1: or it's against the religion, the prominent religion or the 2249 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:04,400 Speaker 1: dry In America, you know, um, marijuana is vilified more 2250 02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:07,680 Speaker 1: than alcohol. And since you're it's really a money issue, 2251 02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:09,840 Speaker 1: government makes a ton of money off alcohol and it's 2252 02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:12,800 Speaker 1: totally not about them getting drunk and getting into the 2253 02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:14,600 Speaker 1: U S and stuff like. No, it's just just literally 2254 02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:18,000 Speaker 1: literally a religious thing. So because it's a really you know, 2255 02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:21,600 Speaker 1: it's a predominantly Muslim aria, so alcohol they're not allowed 2256 02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:26,840 Speaker 1: to drink alcohol. Um. But that yeah, because what happened 2257 02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:30,520 Speaker 1: here during prohibition it opened up the underground for I mean, 2258 02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, it opened up the entire network of underground 2259 02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:36,840 Speaker 1: you know brothels and speakeasies. And next to you know, 2260 02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:40,240 Speaker 1: that becomes big, big money, you know, selling alcohol. It's 2261 02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:42,160 Speaker 1: the same things going on over there. And then the 2262 02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:46,040 Speaker 1: thing is like Americans could get Afghanis and Iraqis alcohol, right, 2263 02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:50,600 Speaker 1: and in turn Afghanis and Iraqis could get Americans what yeah, 2264 02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:53,120 Speaker 1: So I mean it's crazy. And then the crazy thing 2265 02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:55,760 Speaker 1: too when you talk about that that this is why 2266 02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:59,680 Speaker 1: you know it's it's going on because it's banned in 2267 02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:02,840 Speaker 1: all at The connection in my mind is you also 2268 02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:04,760 Speaker 1: hear about I've heard from friends of mind. I think 2269 02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:07,640 Speaker 1: it's been brought up on the podcast like very anti 2270 02:01:07,720 --> 02:01:11,280 Speaker 1: gay there don't have the sex you know, bro it 2271 02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,000 Speaker 1: is and here it goes down there, you know, out 2272 02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:17,879 Speaker 1: in the open, and it is the most anti gay region, 2273 02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:20,080 Speaker 1: one of the most anti gay regions in the world 2274 02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:23,840 Speaker 1: quote unquote air quotes, but you see the gayest stuff 2275 02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:26,800 Speaker 1: going down, dude. These guys will hold hands and kiss 2276 02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:29,040 Speaker 1: each other on the lips because they can't have sex 2277 02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:31,440 Speaker 1: with you know, non virgin they would hug each other 2278 02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:33,800 Speaker 1: and grab each other's butts, like, yo, you're looking at 2279 02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:36,080 Speaker 1: this and you're like, yo, I don't care how many 2280 02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:38,080 Speaker 1: times you're gonna tell me, and the sofa breeze. This 2281 02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:41,040 Speaker 1: is their culture. You're not gonna know. You're not fooling me. 2282 02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:44,080 Speaker 1: These two dudes are fiddling each other, you know, like 2283 02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:47,240 Speaker 1: hands down, and that is a thing. You know, it's crazy. Um, 2284 02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:51,720 Speaker 1: But if you're openly gay, then that's you know, oh no, 2285 02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:55,720 Speaker 1: we're that's intolerable, which is not like it's so crazy. 2286 02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:58,040 Speaker 1: And it also goes back to are they doing this 2287 02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:00,920 Speaker 1: because they're gay or because they're sex really deprived, because 2288 02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:02,840 Speaker 1: it goes back to, well, they're not sexually deprived. Their 2289 02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:05,360 Speaker 1: women are super submissive in because I'm thinking of it 2290 02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:07,080 Speaker 1: as the same way as like a guy goes to 2291 02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:09,440 Speaker 1: prison for life, all of a sudden he's having sex 2292 02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:11,400 Speaker 1: with men and you're like, how, you know, it's just 2293 02:02:11,440 --> 02:02:13,360 Speaker 1: a part of the culture. It's hard to explain. But 2294 02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:16,120 Speaker 1: like since they were since they were kids. You know, 2295 02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:20,360 Speaker 1: they're fiddling each other boys because the boys. But you 2296 02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:23,600 Speaker 1: gotta understand, boys and girls are separated since birth in 2297 02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:26,960 Speaker 1: those in those countries, like since the day they were born. 2298 02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,640 Speaker 1: There's no co ed schools. But boys don't go to 2299 02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,040 Speaker 1: schools with girls, so they don't have that chance to 2300 02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:35,480 Speaker 1: build romantic relationships with the opposite sex. Yet they're still 2301 02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:39,400 Speaker 1: going through puberty. They're still you know, experiencing all all 2302 02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:42,560 Speaker 1: those things that adolescents experience, and the only confidence you 2303 02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:47,200 Speaker 1: have are other like, uh, other men or other women whatever. 2304 02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:50,360 Speaker 1: Because it's also a thing for lesbians as well. Um, 2305 02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:53,920 Speaker 1: so they start experimenting with each other because they're in 2306 02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:57,080 Speaker 1: the freaking phase of experimentation. You've seen that show on Netflix, 2307 02:02:57,160 --> 02:03:00,280 Speaker 1: Big Mouth. Oh my god, it's so funny. Basically, it's 2308 02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:02,800 Speaker 1: a cartoon. It's a it's in the tradition of South 2309 02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Park and all. This is so nuts. It's a cartoon 2310 02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:08,240 Speaker 1: that like kind of like tries to explain a teenage 2311 02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:10,600 Speaker 1: puberty and stuff. Oh it's so funny. John Bush was 2312 02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:12,600 Speaker 1: telling you, Yeah it is. You got to see it. 2313 02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:14,600 Speaker 1: I loved it. It was so crazy. But like they 2314 02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:17,840 Speaker 1: depict the as pure puberty, as this freaking monster that 2315 02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:20,320 Speaker 1: is always like influencing your thoughts. And the thing is 2316 02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:22,680 Speaker 1: it's like gay and not gay to you know, it's 2317 02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:25,320 Speaker 1: like to watch this because within one week you have 2318 02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:29,160 Speaker 1: brought this up, You're gonna have a blast. And it's hilarious. 2319 02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:31,280 Speaker 1: From what John Bush said to me, who we've had 2320 02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:35,000 Speaker 1: on the podcast Restaurant Onner, very cool guy. Uh and 2321 02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:37,760 Speaker 1: you know him as well, he was like the first episode, 2322 02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:39,120 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I don't know how I feel 2323 02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:40,600 Speaker 1: about this. Then he's like, next thing, I know, I'm 2324 02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:43,040 Speaker 1: binge watching the dude, you're gonna binge watch this. It 2325 02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:44,840 Speaker 1: is sick. I was sad that it ended. That's one 2326 02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:47,240 Speaker 1: of those it was like, oh, no, episode ten, it's over. 2327 02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:49,760 Speaker 1: But you know that's so that's in their culture. They're 2328 02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:53,920 Speaker 1: raised to, you know, sexually experienced men, but they're told 2329 02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:56,560 Speaker 1: that they're supposed to procreate with women. So throughout there 2330 02:03:56,560 --> 02:04:00,840 Speaker 1: and all those generations of that freaking goddamn psychotic nous, 2331 02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,520 Speaker 1: they have developed some sort of a mantra. I've heard 2332 02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:08,400 Speaker 1: it a thousand times before. I'm not sure if this 2333 02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:11,120 Speaker 1: is like open or whatever, but I've heard it a 2334 02:04:11,240 --> 02:04:14,440 Speaker 1: hundred times over. They say men are for pleasure and 2335 02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:18,240 Speaker 1: women are for procreation. And I've seen it and they 2336 02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:21,400 Speaker 1: reflected in their actions with each other. So it's so nuts. 2337 02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:26,520 Speaker 1: It's like so hypocritical. Yeah. Absolutely. Um last thing, Melbourne, Australia. 2338 02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:29,080 Speaker 1: I'll just give you the article. Uh, this is from CNN. 2339 02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:32,080 Speaker 1: The driver of a car which plowed into Christmas shoppers 2340 02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:36,120 Speaker 1: in Melbourne Thursday had a history of drug use, health 2341 02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:39,440 Speaker 1: ish of drug use, mental health issues, police said. Acting 2342 02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:43,640 Speaker 1: Chief Commissioner Victoria Police Shane uh Patent told reporters that 2343 02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:46,440 Speaker 1: while the crash was considered to be deliberate, there was 2344 02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:50,080 Speaker 1: no evidence of a link to terrorism. Eighteen people were injured, 2345 02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:52,840 Speaker 1: including at least one young child, when the car hit 2346 02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:57,920 Speaker 1: pedestrians outside Melbourne's iconic Flinders Street station just after four 2347 02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,800 Speaker 1: or forty pm local time. So it's a thirty two 2348 02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:04,480 Speaker 1: year old driver who was driving a white Suzuki for 2349 02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:09,560 Speaker 1: w D, Australian citizen of Afghan descent, who was known 2350 02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,560 Speaker 1: the police by only but only for minor offenses. And 2351 02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:15,680 Speaker 1: then a second man arrested at the scene who's believed 2352 02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:17,640 Speaker 1: to have been connected with the incident. There's been no 2353 02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:21,800 Speaker 1: change in the state's threat levels. Um. And this this 2354 02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,200 Speaker 1: happened recently. I mean by tomorrow, when this goes up, 2355 02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:27,200 Speaker 1: they'll probably be uh some progress. I don't know what 2356 02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:29,520 Speaker 1: you're feeling of if it is terrorism or not. I mean, 2357 02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:32,240 Speaker 1: you do hear Afghan descent raises a red flag. Well, 2358 02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:34,800 Speaker 1: it sounds like what happened in Jersey a couple of 2359 02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:38,920 Speaker 1: years ago, where this um, this Muslim individual dressed in 2360 02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:41,600 Speaker 1: full dish national just ran up on a police officer, 2361 02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:44,560 Speaker 1: yelled alakbar, and shot the police officer while he was 2362 02:05:44,600 --> 02:05:46,680 Speaker 1: sitting at his cruiser and ran away. They caught the 2363 02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:49,200 Speaker 1: guy eventually, and the guy said he was doing it 2364 02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:51,240 Speaker 1: in the name of Allah and all this stuff, and 2365 02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:54,760 Speaker 1: he's admitting that this is his jihad or his act 2366 02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:58,560 Speaker 1: of terror, and uh they I think the mayor of 2367 02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:03,040 Speaker 1: that town was quick to denounce it as a terrorist activity. 2368 02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,720 Speaker 1: So I guess what this does because it is quite 2369 02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:09,840 Speaker 1: a similar situation. Um, but in classification you know, but 2370 02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,080 Speaker 1: you don't know that because it just happened. Okay, But 2371 02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:16,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is the situation of the classification of this. 2372 02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:19,680 Speaker 1: My question is is that where we're gonna keep saying 2373 02:06:19,720 --> 02:06:22,040 Speaker 1: for these lone wolf attacks, if they don't have no 2374 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,040 Speaker 1: ties to an ISIS cell because you know, let's be honest, 2375 02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:29,000 Speaker 1: ISIS is quite unconventional because they use their media platform 2376 02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:33,920 Speaker 1: to influence. So now they're actually out there influencing individuals, 2377 02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:38,200 Speaker 1: and these individuals are committing these atrocities. Are we just 2378 02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna keep giving them that blanket check saying that, Oh no, 2379 02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:42,880 Speaker 1: he's just crazy. Oh no, you don't have a direct 2380 02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:45,760 Speaker 1: link to any ISIS bank accounts or major players. So 2381 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,000 Speaker 1: this isn't an act of terror. No, it's I think 2382 02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,360 Speaker 1: it's still an act of terror, whether it's a lone 2383 02:06:50,360 --> 02:06:54,600 Speaker 1: wolf attack or not. His inspiration was the destabilization of 2384 02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:59,720 Speaker 1: our society or proving a point. You understand, I haven't 2385 02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:02,120 Speaker 1: heard much more than reading this article and what it 2386 02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:04,960 Speaker 1: just happened. Yes I haven't. I haven't heard enough yet, 2387 02:07:05,320 --> 02:07:08,920 Speaker 1: But by tomorrow, I'm sure the lead progress in the situation. 2388 02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:11,600 Speaker 1: But it's it's it's a tough one to call because, 2389 02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:14,920 Speaker 1: like they said, there's mental history, mental issues in his history, 2390 02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:18,360 Speaker 1: there's drug abuse in his history. You know, um, but 2391 02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:21,160 Speaker 1: what you know, what was his motivation if it was 2392 02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:25,920 Speaker 1: in fact and you know, anti Western society motivation then, 2393 02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean it is what it is. I think that 2394 02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:31,600 Speaker 1: was a terrorist act. Yeah, well we'll hear more about it, 2395 02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:34,760 Speaker 1: um and and we'll see if you're correct on this. 2396 02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:38,840 Speaker 1: Uh and whatever progress has made getting out of here, 2397 02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:41,440 Speaker 1: got to mention you guys. 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Tata who's co writing 2429 02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:32,760 Speaker 1: the next book with Nick Irving, which might be loosely 2430 02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:36,240 Speaker 1: based on him from the interview we did. I'm excited 2431 02:09:36,280 --> 02:09:38,960 Speaker 1: for that. I love having him in studio. It's it's 2432 02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:41,040 Speaker 1: been quite a while and He's excited to come in. 2433 02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:43,200 Speaker 1: Anything else you wanted to get to. Yeah, I just 2434 02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:45,839 Speaker 1: want to say thank you to Tremonton, New Jersey, Tremonton 2435 02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:49,080 Speaker 1: Harley Davis. Right, Nancy osk you about that. That was 2436 02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:52,360 Speaker 1: awesome in his book signing. Um, I met Nancy during 2437 02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:56,320 Speaker 1: the Vett ride, uh, the WOCO event. Yeah, Amato Loony's 2438 02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:59,280 Speaker 1: and you know, she invited me down to her dealership 2439 02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:01,640 Speaker 1: to do a book signing. She said she she has 2440 02:10:01,680 --> 02:10:03,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, kind of intrigued in 2441 02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:05,840 Speaker 1: the whole, you know, the whole, the idea, and I thought, 2442 02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:08,080 Speaker 1: that's cool, let's do it. And you know, she was super, 2443 02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:12,280 Speaker 1: super gracious, awesome hostess, and um, the people that came 2444 02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:16,160 Speaker 1: out are amazing. One in the individual, Rick Merchant he 2445 02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:20,520 Speaker 1: uh is a motorcycle rider for Warriors Watch Riders. And 2446 02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:23,400 Speaker 1: these guys are the guys that you see putting up 2447 02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:27,120 Speaker 1: the flag wall at funerals so people don't disturb thee 2448 02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:30,360 Speaker 1: what are they called the West Baptist Church. Well know 2449 02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:32,600 Speaker 1: these guys, well, there's a couple of groups that do 2450 02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:34,320 Speaker 1: this and this this is just one of those groups. 2451 02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:39,520 Speaker 1: And they oh that was protesting and then yeah, so 2452 02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:41,840 Speaker 1: these guys who put up the American flag wall to 2453 02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:44,440 Speaker 1: keep the families from seeing them doing that. And they 2454 02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:50,360 Speaker 1: also um they also do um the the rides, the 2455 02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:54,480 Speaker 1: escorts from the airports where um, you know, k I A. 2456 02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:57,560 Speaker 1: You know, veterans or soldiers come in and they'll do 2457 02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:01,240 Speaker 1: the escort all the way to the the funeral parlor. 2458 02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:04,760 Speaker 1: So um, if you guys know of any situation where 2459 02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:08,000 Speaker 1: you would need these fine, fine, fine, fine gentlemen, these 2460 02:11:08,080 --> 02:11:11,280 Speaker 1: these awesome bikers that are true patriots. If you would 2461 02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:13,640 Speaker 1: need them to do something like that for you, for you, 2462 02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:16,600 Speaker 1: you know you're returning veteran or you know you need 2463 02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:19,520 Speaker 1: someone to block a funeral or whatever, call these guys, man, 2464 02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:21,920 Speaker 1: They're awesome. Or just go out to their website and 2465 02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:25,600 Speaker 1: and j W w R at gmail dot com. That's 2466 02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:28,520 Speaker 1: I think Northern New Jersey Chapter of Warriors Watch Writers 2467 02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:29,880 Speaker 1: and these are the guys that will do it. Man. 2468 02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:31,080 Speaker 1: I just had to give him a shot because I 2469 02:11:31,080 --> 02:11:33,200 Speaker 1: that was that was awesome. The fact that they do that. 2470 02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:36,320 Speaker 1: I agree, And it's despicable that you know, there's these 2471 02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:38,800 Speaker 1: people protest soldier spirits. What I mean, it's like that 2472 02:11:38,840 --> 02:11:41,040 Speaker 1: double edged sword of freedom of speech. But the fact 2473 02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:44,880 Speaker 1: that people want to do that is horrible, but yeah, 2474 02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:46,560 Speaker 1: that's great to see. If there's cake freets out there 2475 02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:49,240 Speaker 1: doing that, I guess that's it. And then we've gone 2476 02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:52,600 Speaker 1: over two hours for you people, So please leave us 2477 02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:55,960 Speaker 1: to review on Apple Podcasts. Uh, you know, leave us 2478 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:58,240 Speaker 1: a five star review on there. It really helps us out, 2479 02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:01,360 Speaker 1: and follow us on Instagram and Twitter, and I think 2480 02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:05,480 Speaker 1: that's sure right on. Guys, A merry Christmas. You've been 2481 02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:09,919 Speaker 1: listening to soft Rep Radio. New episodes up every Wednesday 2482 02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:12,920 Speaker 1: and Friday for all of the great content from our 2483 02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:16,480 Speaker 1: veteran journalists. Join us and become a team room member 2484 02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:20,000 Speaker 1: today at soft rep dot com. Follow the show on 2485 02:12:20,080 --> 02:12:24,240 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter at soft Rep Radio, and be sure 2486 02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:27,959 Speaker 1: to also check out the Power of Thought podcast, hosted 2487 02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:33,560 Speaker 1: by Hurricane Group CEO and Navy Seal Sniper instructor Brandon Webb.