1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Hey, Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: New Order, the greatest British bands of the post punk era, 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: and me getting to know you and of course your voicemails, text, 12 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: dms and more, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: All Right, disc goes, let's get into it, all right, 14 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: all right, all right, we are here. We are in session, 15 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: the discos have entered the chat and I'm grateful you're 16 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: here with me today. On this bonus episode of Disgraceland, 17 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: we are starting off prompted by this week's full episode 18 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: subject to Disgraceland New Order. And there's a lot going 19 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: on in this episode on the crime front that I'm 20 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: not going to use this space to discuss, but instead 21 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: I want to jump off one musical fact for the 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: New Order story as a way into a larger musical 23 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: question that I've been thinking about. Some of you may 24 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: be saying, who the hell is New Order? I've never 25 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: heard of New Order, and that's cool, and that's why 26 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: we have the full episode for you to check out. 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: But know this, you might not know who New Order is, 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: but you definitely know who Quincy Jones is. Quinsy or 29 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: Q is one of the biggest names in the music 30 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: industry and has been for the last sixty some odd years. 31 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: The dude is a giant, and back in the nineteen 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: eighties sort of at the apex of his career, or 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: right about at the beginning of the apex of his career, 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: he recognized that New Order was one of the most 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: promising groups to emerge out of England. So Quincy Jones 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: AKAQ here set about to work with New Order. The 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: results debatable. What it wasn't was the next thriller, but 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't erase the fact that one of the greatest 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: producers of all time recognized the greatness in a little 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: synth band from the UK. It's no secret that the 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: United Kingdom, more specifically let's just narrow it down. Let's 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: say England. This is where my thoughts have been. It's 43 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: no secret that England has produced some of the greatest 44 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: groups of all times, specifically of the past forty years. 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: That's the era that I'm more interested in, from the 46 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: time of New Order on from nineteen eighty to now. 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: The years prior, from say the Beatles in nineteen sixty 48 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: two sixty three through the punk explosion of the seventies 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: and up until nineteen eighty are less inner to be 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: because it's music history territory that has been strip mine 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: time and time again. We've talked about I've talked about 52 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: this era so much, have done episodes on so many 53 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: of these subjects. I love that era. I love those bands. 54 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: But you know there's more, Okay, That's what I'm interested in. 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in discussing or debating the greatness of 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: the Beatles, the Stones, the Who, led Zeppelin, even the Clash, 57 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: or any of the other amazing rock bands that emerge 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: from England between sixty three and seventy nine, and all 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: the great punk bands as well. But I am interested 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: in discussing and debating the English bands that broke out 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: after punk rock broke through? Who are the greatest English 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: groups of the post punk era? It is an impressive list. 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about post punk bands. I 64 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: know that's a genre, Okay, I mean the era, I 65 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: mean after punk. I mean it literally post punk era. 66 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: It's an impressive list and it starts with New Order. 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: It includes a long list of great bands. Peche Mode, Police, 68 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Dire Straits. And I know you're saying, hey, depeche Mode 69 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: started in seventy nine or whatever. The Police started in 70 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: seventy seven. Yeah, but they weren't punk bands, so therefore 71 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: they are post punk. They are after punk. Dire Straits 72 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: and they didn't hit really until the eighties either. The 73 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Police didn't really break through until the eighties. Dire Straits 74 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: and I say that already. I think I did the 75 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: the the Rhythmics, Doran, Duran, Echo and the Bunny Men 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: and the Cure, the Smiths. Okay, that's the eighties. The 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: nineties might even be more impressive. Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Radiohead, Stone, Roses, Supergrass, 78 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: The Verve, Swede, Bush, Travis Happy Mondays. I feel like 79 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm a great Scott. Listen, let's break it down. You 80 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: basically got two decades of greatness the eighties in the 81 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: nineties to choose from here. Remember we're talking about England, Okay, 82 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: I just I don't know why I feel like I'm 83 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: gonna say that again. And we are excluding the sixties 84 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: and the seventies. But if you're picking two bands from 85 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: the sixties, you'd probably go Beatlestones, And if you're gonna 86 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: go two bands in the seventies, he probably go Zepp 87 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: and Clasher. Maybe not, but that's what I sow. What 88 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: two English bands from the eighties do you choose? And 89 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: what two English bands from the nineties do you choose? 90 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: It is New Order one of them greatest English group 91 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: not solo artists of the post punk era. For the eighties, 92 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: I probably go The Cure in the Smiths and for 93 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: the nineties I probably go Away Assistant Blur. But I'm 94 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: not saying that exactly, and I got to think about 95 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: it more. Not sure about a fifth, more modern band, 96 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: maybe Arctic Monkeys again, need I need to give it 97 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: a think. So what are your top five English groups 98 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: from the post punk era? Prompted by a New Order, 99 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: this new full episode we have on New Order six one, seven, 100 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight, leave me a voicemail, 101 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: send me a text, let me know, or you can 102 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: hit me at this grace lamp pod on the Socials. 103 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: Gonna take a quick break back in a flash, your 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: voicemails and your texts, all right, you know the drills 105 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: six one seven, nine oh six six six three eight 106 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: to send a text, to leave a voicemail, just like 107 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: this dude from the nine to seven eight. Uh So, 108 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: before we get to the message, here's just a couple 109 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I told you guys about my experience 110 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: as a little kid backstage at an Arrowsmith concert that 111 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: was probably eighty eight eighty nine. This dude has his 112 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: own story about being kid backstage at an Arrowsmith concert 113 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: from a different era of the band, entirely from seventy 114 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: eight seventy nine, and it's freaking awesome. Sean, let's play 115 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: the nine seven eight. 116 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: Jake Annie from the nine to seven eight part of 117 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: Boston Great Podcast, Long Time Listen. I got a little 118 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: Arrowsmith story for you. My dad was a buddy of 119 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: the backstage man of manager of Arrowsmith and us backstage 120 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: passes late seventy seventy eight seventy nine. So we went 121 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: in Boston Garden backstage and tell us, come on, let's 122 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: go see the guys. He goes, but I got to 123 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: put you to work. So we carried in big trash 124 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: barrels full of beer into this locker room and barrow 125 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: Smith was in there, Steve Tyler, everybody, a bunch of 126 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: girls everywhere, and he said, Joe said to us, just look, 127 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: don't say nothing. We're going to the end of the 128 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: locker room and then we'll come back. So we're going down. 129 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: There were drugs everywhere. It was a freaking madhouse. So 130 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: we go back there and one of them, I think 131 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: it was Tyler, yelled to get their kids out of there. 132 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: We were seventeen eighteen at the time, so we get out. 133 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: They were playing with zz Top and as we're out there, 134 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Billy Gibbons goes by and he goes, I hope you 135 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: boys are bringing beer into our locker too, So we 136 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: went in there. I got to admit, the girls from 137 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: ZZ Talk were a lot prettier than the girls from Arrowsmith, 138 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: and those guys were actually pretty cool. They just kind 139 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: of had this essence around him that was just unbelievable. 140 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: They were just laid back, cool, guys. They chatted a 141 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: little bit and then they said, well, get out of here. 142 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: We got to get ready for the show. 143 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: But it's just a. 144 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: Pretty cool experience over and out from being. 145 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: Time dude, amazing story. Not surprised that the Texas boys 146 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: had better taste in women than the New Englanders. And 147 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: I love that their vibe was so cool and so 148 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: different than Aerosmith. So thank you for the story. You know, 149 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this before I started talking into 150 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: the microphone of you guys today. I was thinking about 151 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: all the Aerosmiths incoming I've received from you guys, and 152 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: all this sort of shit. We've talked about Aerosmith, and 153 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: I just we haven't talked a lot about Joe Perry. 154 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: We talked a lot about Steven Tyler and how goofy is, 155 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: and I talked about how cool Tom Hamilton was, but 156 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: I never mentioned how cool I think Joe Perry was 157 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: and is. I guess not to mention that he is 158 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: a beast of a guitar player, and I just I 159 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: felt that worth mentioning. It's important to remember the positive 160 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: stuff here. I feel like we're pretty balanced, but I 161 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: just wanted to get that out. I'm not sure I 162 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: said it in the last few weeks. All right, let's 163 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: check out this voicemail from the two to seven. 164 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: Well you but you bit one off of that one. 165 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: All right? So who are we? Well, I don't know 166 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: who anybody else is. I'm John, I'm from New Hampshire. 167 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: I'm a craftsman. I work by myself because I don't know. 168 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: I guess that's harry enough standing myself as opposed to 169 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: anybody else. But yeah, so I spend a lot of 170 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: hours by myself doing detailed things, and I listened to music, 171 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: and I listened to interesting, thought provoking podcasts, one of 172 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: which are actually all of your stuff is really interesting 173 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 3: and thought provoking. In music, I find it's so suited 174 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: to the situation. If I'm doing something really cerebral, I 175 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: want to listen to jazz or something jazz influence, you know, 176 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: something that's really just technical and there but not there, 177 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: just kind of I hate to say numbers, but it's 178 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: almost like numbers, you know. And then you know, if 179 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 3: I'm doing something loud and thrashy, you got to put 180 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: on something loud and trashy. And you know, if a 181 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: thirty eight year old man needs to feel like a 182 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: teenager again. Well then I put on motherfucking Wutia Clan. 183 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: So that's that's who I am, brother, and you're a 184 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: big part of it in all the podcasters, so that's huge. 185 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: So thank you guys for what you do, and specifically 186 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: thank you for this part of your podcast because it's 187 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: really interesting to be able to take part in it 188 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: and like kind of take a little bit of ownership 189 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: in it. I feel like you actually listen to us, 190 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like some of the stuff 191 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: he says say drive me absolutely batshit sometimes and then 192 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: other times I'm frigging thumping on the roof of my 193 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: truck going yeah, buddy. So that's that, and listen. I'm 194 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: sure you've heard a million arrowsmith stories at this point, 195 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: but here's one for you. All right. I can't believe 196 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: I forgot this. My family owned a seafood market in 197 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: New Hampshire. Stephen Tyler walked in one time. There was 198 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: a Vietnamese guy working, and he, with his accent, said 199 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: to my mother, he's in aerosmith. My mother heard this 200 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: as he's an arrowsmith. My mother didn't know who Stephen 201 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: Tyler was, so hand to God, my mother as she's 202 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: checking Steven Tyler out says, so do you make arrows? Shit? 203 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: You not, bro. You should have seen the friggin sideways 204 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: head that he had. Fucking hilarious. All right, buddy, keep 205 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 3: up the good work. I'm gonna listen to the rest 206 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: of your podcast. You just inspired a way too long 207 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 3: voicemail chaff and. 208 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Now doc rolla John amazing man, amazing. I literally laughed 209 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: out loud when I heard your mom asked Steven Tyler 210 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: if he made arrows, So yeah, stoke to get to 211 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: know you, John. If you guys missed the after party 212 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: last week, a listener called in and asked about me, 213 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: and I gave an answer. 214 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 215 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: The listener wanted to know where you know, sort of 216 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: where I come from, what makes me me, It's et cetera. 217 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: But I turned it around afterward and I asked about 218 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: you guys, and that's what John is responding to here, 219 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: and I appreciate that, And uh, I want to know 220 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: who you guys are, and what you do, what you 221 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: listen to when you listen to it, what makes you tick, 222 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: not only because I want to make better content for you, 223 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: but because fucking social media in the world today can 224 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: be so anti social when you get right down to it. 225 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: So John, I love the message. I'm the same dude, 226 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: jazz in the morning when I'm writing, and loud music 227 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: in the afternoon when I'm working around the house or 228 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: hitting balls with my boys. Guys six one seven, nine 229 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: oh six, six three eight, call me, leave me a voicemail, 230 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: send me a text, introduce yourselves. All right, let's check 231 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: out with another disco here with Laura from the nine 232 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: to one four. 233 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: Hey, Jake, it's Laura. Love the show. Of course. I 234 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 5: love everything you do and all the story view on Earth. 235 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: It's such a journey. And I don't know if you've 236 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 5: already covered this artist. I haven't been through all of 237 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 5: the backlog of episodes. But Sia, whatever you think of 238 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 5: her as a pop star or her pop music, you 239 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 5: can't deny the unbelievable talents that she's got. And I 240 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 5: seem to remember a story of some kind of betrayal 241 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 5: or intrigue in her background where she did not intend 242 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 5: to release her vocals on a track, But since someone 243 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 5: maybe a producer I don't know who would make this decision, 244 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: decided that she did it the best, he went out 245 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 5: and released it. Without her knowledge or something like that. 246 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 5: I don't even know if that's even possible, But if 247 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 5: this story really happened, I would to hear it on Disgraceline. 248 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 5: Would be amazing because I know you would put the 249 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 5: spin on it that it needs, that it deserves if 250 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 5: this really happened. So from what I remember of this story, 251 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 5: that's why she covers her face with her hair because 252 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 5: the last thing she wants is same and you know, 253 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 5: without without rocking her world at all, I would I 254 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 5: would love to learn more about her. Thanks again for 255 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 5: everything you do. Bye bye. 256 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: Great idea, Laura, And yes, that sounds totally like something 257 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: that a producer would do and could do. Sia go 258 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: to look into it. I never knew this story. I 259 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: never I don't know anything about her, to be perfectly honest, 260 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: but this is intriguing and I appreciate the recommendation. It's 261 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: a good one, all right, guys six one seven nine 262 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: O six six six three eight. If you've got a recommendation, 263 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure we should be doing an episode. Excuse me. 264 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: You leave me a voicemail or a text, let me 265 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: know your favorite English groups of the post punk era are, 266 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: and also just introduce yourself. Let me know a little 267 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: bit about you, what you do, what makes you tick? 268 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. 269 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: Let's check out some texts. We have this conversation going 270 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: about engagement and how artists connect with their audience and 271 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: what makes you, guys, as an audience, connect with your 272 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: favorite musicians. And of course we've been talking about Taylor 273 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: Swift and talking about her here in the after Party 274 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: and also in the little mini episodes we do on 275 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: Mondays when I'm unofficially calling the pre party. But anyways, 276 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: you know Taylor Swift, the phenomenon that she is. I'm 277 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: just I'm intrigued what people are responding to. We got 278 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: a text here from eight to six. Oh hey, Jake, 279 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: weighing in on the Taylor Swift. She engages with fans 280 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: in a way nobody has ever done before. I think 281 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: she understands her fans better than any artist in history 282 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: and truly enjoys creating an interactive world for the fandom. 283 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: The effort she puts in is unparalleled. Thanks for everything 284 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: you do, love all the content. Eight six, Oh, I 285 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: hear you give me some examples. What exactly what is 286 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: the effort that she puts in and what is the 287 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: interactive world that is the Taylor Swift fandom. How do you, 288 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: as a fan engage with Taylor Swift? That's what I 289 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: want to know. Six one seven nine oh six six 290 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: six three eight text me back eight six to oh 291 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: or hit me with a voicemail. All right, I said, uh, 292 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: I said, I said, We're gonna put this one to bed. 293 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: But this is a funny text from the three oh three. 294 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: Hey Jake Stephanie from the three oh three Billboards top 295 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: fifty best Rap Groups of all Time left me highly offended, 296 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: especially the top five. My top five best rap groups 297 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: of all time. It's number one, NWA, number two, WU Tang, 298 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: number three, Public Endemy, number four one DMC, and number 299 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: five Beastie Boys. I stand by what I said and 300 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: I'll die on this hill. Thanks for your podcast. I 301 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: enjoy listening to it every week, especially the bonus episodes. Yeah, 302 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: you got a three oh three Rockin' I like that list. 303 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: That's a good, good, good list. Sorry, five to four 304 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: to oh rights in Thin Lizzie is great. Sex pistols 305 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: are great. Yes, members of Thin Lizzie, Paul Cook and 306 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Steve Jones. That is cool, but I digress deuces. Yeah, 307 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't know where this thin Lizzy stuff is coming from. 308 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Did I say something, Who's I didn't 309 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: say anything about thin Lizzy, And all of a sudden, 310 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: I start getting all these texts about din Lizzy and 311 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: me not liking them, and I don't know what that's about. 312 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: So maybe I said something that sounded like thin Lizzie. 313 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's bizarre, okay eight one oh? Right, sin, 314 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: it's sort of music news for this week. I didn't 315 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: know if you saw I did see this what the 316 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: eight one I was about to say here, I didn't 317 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: know if you saw that Lizzie van Houghton was released 318 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: from prison yesterday. She was part of the Charles Manson 319 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: family and actively participated in the Healter Skelter murders. Definitely 320 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve to have been released. If you asked me, 321 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: thanks for all you do and rock and rolla Dean 322 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: Dean from the eight one. Oh, I did see that. 323 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: I thought about posting something about that on Instagram and 324 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: talking to you guys about it over there, but last 325 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: time I made a post about Charles manson Instagram basically 326 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: shut my freaking account down, which is ridiculous. So uh yeah, 327 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: I guess I can talk about it here. And I 328 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: did see this, and I have very mixed feelings about it. 329 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: Leslie van Houghton definitely yeah, Manson girl, one of Charlie's 330 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: girls and like a for real one, like the one 331 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: who was on the inside doing the killing. And uh, 332 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: I do have mixed feelings. I mean, I don't know, 333 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: this woman's been in prison since the early seventies. This 334 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: crime is horrific. How they behaved was barbaric, and some 335 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: really innocent people lost their lives and that sucks. On 336 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: the other hand, you know this, I go back and 337 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: forth in my head all the time, the difference between 338 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: the you know, punitive punishment and redemption, and it's, uh, 339 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're all imperfect, and I think our imperfection 340 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: sometimes stems to our ability to even figure this stuff out. 341 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: Then again, I'm sure there's some of you who are 342 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: very black and white about this, and I respect that 343 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: as well, and at times I am too. So anyways, 344 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: it's an interesting topic. I'm always obsessed with the Manson family. 345 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: I saw a picture someone now didn't text it to me, 346 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: they sent it to me on Instagram. Today if you 347 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: remember in the one of the Manson episodes we did. 348 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: I think it might have been one of the Mama 349 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: Cass episodes I talk about, or no, it might have 350 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: been the Manson episode that the like Charles Manson the 351 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: music Man episode of Disgrace Land, I talk about how 352 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: Neil Young gifted Charles Manson a motorcycle. And someone found 353 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: an image of that of Charlie on this chopper that 354 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Neil Young gave him and sent it to me today 355 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: and it's incredible. It's a it's just a shocking image. 356 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: I'd post it, but like I said, I'm done fucking 357 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: around with the boys at Meta. They don't play all right, 358 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: what else we got here? Let's see from the six' five? Oh, 359 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: hi from the six to five. Oh i've been listening 360 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: To After party And Wrap party episodes to hear an email, 361 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: address but. DIDN'T i finally sent a message through the 362 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: contact form on your, website only to this morning to 363 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: finally here an email. Address do you see the messages 364 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: sent into the contact form or SHOULD i resend my 365 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: message as an? Email, OKAY i do see. THEM i 366 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: THINK i get a lot of Emails disgrace lamppod at 367 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: gmail dot, com And i'm pretty sure that the form 368 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: on the website handles that. CORRECTLY i also shout it. 369 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: Out but for those of you who are wondering why 370 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: you haven't got your email, Received i've been trying. To 371 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: i've been trying in real time to answer them as 372 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: much of them as possible, lately And i've been trying 373 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: to answer them in the bonus episodes that we do On. Mondays, 374 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: Okay so if you're looking for a, reply it's probably 375 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna be in those little mini. Episodes we're doing the 376 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: pre party episodes On, mondays just to give you a. 377 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: Recap monday mini, Episode, tuesday full, Episode. Thursday these here 378 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: after party, episodes but the, emails they're in the mini Episodes. 379 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 1: Mondays all, Right disgrace lampod at gmail dot. Com, okay 380 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: one more text. Here you, Know i'm. SURPRISED i think 381 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: we got interrupted by the fourth Of, july and that's 382 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: why this topic didn't really go as far AS i 383 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: wanted it to. Go but last we, SPOKE i asked 384 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: you guys about the year nineteen ninety four for, music 385 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: AND i didn't get a lot of incoming on it. 386 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Either you weren't paying, attention or MAYBE i didn't record that, 387 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: part or my taked just isn't as interesting AS i 388 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: think it. Is, man that's Some Elaine bennis. Humor there 389 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: is it possible That i'm not as attractive AS i 390 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: THINK i? Am, ANYWAYS i. Digress BUT i asked the 391 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: question about nineteen ninety four and whether or not it 392 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: was the greatest year of music or one of the 393 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: greatest years of, Music and, yeah we got this, Back Yo, 394 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 1: dude nineteen ninety Four. Lallapalooza this is from the three 395 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: to zero Two Yo, dude nineteen ninety Four lallapalooza With 396 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: beastie's whole was supposed to Be, NIRVANA Ba Kurt, Died Nick, 397 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: cave The, BREEDERS P Funk All. Stars you're not wrong 398 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: about nineteen ninety. Four also on that, Bill Sonic, Youth Fishbone, 399 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: PRIMUS i believe as. WELL i was there ninety four ninety. 400 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Four they had it In Rhode, island IF i remember, 401 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: CORRECTLY i remember the monks who were, touring The buddhist 402 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: monks who were touring with The Beastie boys being. Backstage 403 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: don't ask me HOW i got. BACKSTAGE i did. 404 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 3: What? 405 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: Else what else from ninety? Four who else was on that? 406 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: Bill you, KNOW i think what happened. HERE i think 407 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: the REASON i don't remember P funk on that, bill 408 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: maybe they were Or Nick. CAVE i don't remember, that 409 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: BUT i think what happened ninety Four they started swapping 410 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: out some of the sort of undercard artists regionally On. 411 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: Malapulusa but it doesn't erase the fact ninety four banger 412 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: year for. Music all? Right uh six one, seven nine oh, 413 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: six six six three. Eight you can hit me up 414 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: on any of these, topics, voicemail send a, text. Whatever most, 415 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: IMPORTANTLY i want you to introduce. Yourselves let me know 416 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: who you guys. Are all, RIGHT i talk about myself 417 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: all the. Time you know, what it's fucking boring to 418 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: talk about. YOURSELF i want to talk about you guys 419 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: a little. Bit six one seven nine oh six six 420 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: six three. Eight tell me who you, Are tell me 421 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: what you do for, Work tell me when you listen to, 422 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: music what music you love when you listen to this, 423 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: podcast and what you're doing when you're listening to, It 424 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: how you first heard this, podcast what you want out 425 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: of this? Podcast And i'll answer it all as BEST 426 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: i CAN i want to get to know you guys 427 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: a little. Better AND i think that the voicemail mechanism 428 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: and the text mechanism are two pretty cool ways to do. 429 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: It all, right you can ALWAYS dm me as well 430 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: At disgrace Slam pod On, Instagram, Twitter facebook and TikTok 431 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: and threads, too, right and then there's Email disgrace lampod 432 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: at gmail dot. Com going to take a quick, break 433 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: be back in a second with some. Recommendations all, right 434 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: we are back in the recommendations. Part this is the recommendation's, 435 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: part the part where we recommend the things that need, 436 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: recommending the recommendations. Part What i've been listening to so 437 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: the song Grinder man By John Lee. Hooker do you 438 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: guys know this? SONG i. DIDN'T i MEAN i have 439 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: for a couple of years, now but it's relatively new to. 440 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: Me what a strange one from The John Lee hooker. 441 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: Archive AND i went back to this song recently Because 442 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: i've just GOT i got a lot of baseball on 443 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: my mind. 444 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 5: Lately. 445 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: Guys i've been talking about baseball to you a little. 446 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Bit i've Been i've been going to, games been to 447 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: Two socks games so, far going to A TRIPLE a 448 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: game a couple of weeks down In North, carolina And 449 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: i'm just baseball right now is better than it's been 450 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: in at least a, decade if not. More the rules 451 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: changes that they implemented this year have really played out 452 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: in a positive and exciting way for. VIEWERS i thought 453 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: The All Star game the other night was. AWESOME i 454 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: know people were bummed that it, wasn't, like you, know 455 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: a big hitting, game BUT i don't mind. THAT i 456 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: like pitching in defense. Anyways Grinder man is a baseball. 457 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: Song BUT i was going to The Red sox game 458 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: on fourth Of july with my, family with my wife 459 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: and my two, boys and they're playing The Texas, rangers 460 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: AND i was looking for like, these like a baseball 461 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: playlist On, spotify and it's just it's there's so you, 462 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: know baseball truly, is or at least it Was america's 463 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: pastime for the major the bulk Of american modern, history 464 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: and it's really reflected in the wide expanse and diversity 465 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: and different types of songs that are about. Baseball it's 466 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: all over the fucking. Map SO i didn't find the 467 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: PLAYLIST i was looking, for BUT i did remember the 468 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: song Grinder man By John Lee, hooker which, it's LIKE i, 469 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: said it's a weird one From John Lee hooker's. Past 470 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: he recorded it With stacks The memphis, label which Was 471 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: i'm not exactly sure the history of how that. Happened 472 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: the song is so, mean it is so low down 473 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: and so, dirty and it just it makes you want 474 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: to take a fucking bath after you hear. It that's 475 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: the type of song this song. 476 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: Is BUT. 477 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: I Guess John Lee hooker must have been a baseball, 478 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: fan AND i think what a grinder man was at 479 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: that time whenever the song was, WRITTEN i don't, know, 480 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: Sixties i'm guessing, seventies was a, grinder you, know like they, Say, 481 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: hey that guy's a. Grinder he can really grind him, 482 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: out grind out at, bats grind out his, hustle who's 483 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: running to the base the, first the, second. Whatever i'm 484 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: not really sure where the term grinder man fits in 485 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: exactly in, baseball BUT i know it is a baseball, 486 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: term And John Lee hooker is of course using it 487 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: as a way a metaphor for sex and how he 488 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: is the grinder, man and it's kind of, funny but 489 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: it is set to this incredibly, slinky Grimy John Lee hooker. 490 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: Sound it's just fucking. Awesome so check that tune, out all. 491 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: RIGHT i know it's a lot about one, song but, 492 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: hey trust, me if we were hanging out at a 493 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: bar and we were just drinking, beers you, know this 494 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: is What i'd be talking. About the other THING i 495 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, here which is not sort of 496 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: as specific and weird as this Obscure John Lee hooker, 497 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: tune quite the. Opposite last, NIGHT i was Watching Turner Classic, 498 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: movies AS i often do When i'm winding, down and 499 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: they run these great bumpers ON, tcm and they were 500 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: showing all the upcoming films that they're going to be 501 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: playing over the. Summer and one of, them which is 502 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: hard for me to think of it as a classic 503 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: movie because it's still relatively new compared to the stuff 504 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: That Turner Classic movies, plays was almost famous To Cameron 505 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: crowe movie About Cameron crow's experience as a young journalist 506 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: For Rolling stone back in the, seventies which we've all 507 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: seen a thousand, times and we've seen it so, MUCH 508 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: i know we have it it's almost not even worth talking. 509 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: About but in seeing the, movie in this bumper For 510 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: Turner Classic movies with a bunch of other iconic films 511 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: edited in and around The Almost famous. Promotion it really struck. 512 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: Me and of, course you, know there were sound and 513 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: they were playing cuts from, it they were Playing Tiny. 514 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: Dancer it really struck me just how iconic this movie. 515 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: Is and when it came, OUT i just thought it 516 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: was LIKE i thought it was a really cool, movie 517 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: really fun, Movie BUT i didn't realize at the time 518 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: what it would become and what it would mean to 519 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: me now as a guy who's seen this movie a thousand, 520 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: Times and it just got me, thinking you, know the 521 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: opposite Of, grinderman thinking About grinderman And John Lee, hooker 522 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: which is relatively. OBSCURE i mean thinking this is relatively 523 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: basic in mainstream line of. Thought but what is the 524 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: best movie about? Music and is it almost? Famous you, 525 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: Know i'm sitting here asking that, question AND i don't 526 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: know That i'm saying, yes BUT i don't know That 527 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: i'm saying no, Either so tell me what is the 528 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: best movie about? Music is it almost? Famous? Is and 529 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a, Biopick it could be 530 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: A star Is, born the recent, one The Bradley cooper, 531 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: One Lady, gaga that movie is incredible for eight about 532 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: ten different reasons that movie ten ten ten different reasons 533 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: that are different from the reasons That Almost famous is 534 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: an incredible. Movie you, know if you're talking, Biopicks Buddy Holly's, 535 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: Story Coal Miner's, daughter there are so many and there 536 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: are just so many movies about music. Scripted i'm talking 537 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: about non. Documentaries that's a separate. Question so let me. 538 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: KNOW i want to know six one seven, nine six 539 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: six six three, Eight, right some guy from outer space 540 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: just land On earth today and he wants to watch 541 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: one movie about. Music what do you tell him to? 542 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: Watch let me, know all, RIGHT i want to talk 543 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: vintage music videos for a. Second, okay As, i'm you, 544 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: know lying in, bed just got my phone, open And 545 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm i'm writing down my thoughts in a document to 546 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: come up in here into the studio and hop into 547 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: THE iso booth and record this for you. Guys AND 548 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: i flip on my excite eighties flashback, channel which shows 549 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: me all the vintage music VIDEOS i, need and Bon 550 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: Jovies You Give love A Bad name is, on AND 551 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: i am reminded of WHY i hated this guy so 552 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: damn much as a, child it's so. Cheesy at the same, 553 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: time now as an, ADULT i love. IT i fucking 554 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: get how much of a hit it was and why 555 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: it was such a massive. Hit you, Know i've never 556 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: actively listened To john Bon jovi or Bon, JOVI i should, 557 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: say but when that song comes on Now i'm turning 558 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: the volume. Up it's a fucking. Banger it's a great. 559 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: Song the chorus is, incredible no harmony's just gang. Vocals 560 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: it's fucking. Awesome Richie sambora fucking. Rips what WAS i 561 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: so up tight about and angry about as a young. 562 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: Kid why COULDN'T i get with Bon? Jovi you, KNOW 563 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: i pride myself on being THE i talked about it last. 564 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: WEEK i was the kid who liked all kinds of. 565 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: MUSIC i fucking hated hair metal. THOUGH i don't. Know 566 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: it's just like THE i guess because it was just 567 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: the opposite of punk. Rock BUT i watched that. Video 568 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: now it's this dude's having. Fun they're just running around 569 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: and their big hair and their spandex and their fucking 570 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: big stadium with their big choruses and their big guitar, 571 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: solos looking at girls with big hair in the front 572 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: row and big cleavage and they're just it's this red, 573 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: blooded Hot american. Fun, okay what's wrong with? That there's 574 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: nothing just a place for. That why WAS i so 575 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: uptight about? IT i don't. KNOW i love. It, also 576 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: just side, note every Woman i've known in my, life 577 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: every single one has Loved john Bon. Jovi he is 578 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: the consensus babe amongst. Chicks. WHY i, MEAN i kind 579 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: of get. IT i, mean, yeah he's an, attractive charismatic, guy 580 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: and he's, talented and he writes, songs could. Sing but 581 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: even to this, day even, now WHICH i still kind of, 582 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: GET i, GET i get the. Attraction WHAT i don't 583 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: get is a universal. Consensus so tell me what is 584 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: it About john Bon jovi that you? LOVE i want to, 585 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: Know LIKE i, said literally every single Woman i've ever 586 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: met in my life That i've, known my dad's, girlfriends my, wife, 587 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: uh you, know previous Girlfriends i've. HAD i don't know 588 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: whether my sisters have opinions on. THIS i should probably ask, 589 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: Them but it's just like every Time john Bon jovie comes, 590 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: up every time he comes on the, screen every time 591 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: he gets, mentioned whatever it, is it's like Oh, john you, 592 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: know jo what was the? WORD i don't, Know john Bon, 593 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: jovi let me know six one, seven nine oh six 594 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: six six three. Eight let me know what your thoughts 595 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: On john Bon, jovi our ladies and uh. Yeah also 596 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: hit me up with your music. Recommendations i'm here for, it, 597 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: Okay i'm always here for the. 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