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Speaker 1: really understand what's going on. That's kind of how I

425
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: thought they would justify. Now, whether that was the case

426
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: or not, who knows, but that's how I what I

427
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: saw it as. It's like he, you know, give them

428
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: numbers or facts, he's fine, give them relationships between people,

429
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: and he's woefully ignorant. Yeah, I wonder now too. I

430
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: don't think anybody, when giving a gift would individually name

431
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: students whose or would not able to know that would

432
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: never happen. I'm going to write eighteen names down, but

433
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: not yours, like telling you about it. I know, it

434
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: really broke my heart. Honestly, it was really pheny would

435
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: wrote it outside like, oh, I noticed you didn't sign this,

436
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Mr Hunter, like what it would never happen. But it

437
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: is a good it is it is. We had to

438
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: raise the stakes. They had to gat there had to

439
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: be steaks that were raised for for sewn in the

440
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: situation and for him to feel pressure with this. So

441
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: they set it up. But boy, my heartbroke. Okay. So

442
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: then we are in the Matthews living room. Alan is

443
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: putting up Christmas lights. It's not going very well, so

444
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: stereotypical every stereotypical sitcom. Here the lights that aren't working.

445
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: And this night goes on and went chasing Christmas vacation everything,

446
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: a Christmas stortory and everything. Why did it lights not working?

447
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Electricity, It's like yeah, it's like, yeah,

448
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: that's I saw that. I was like a man, they're

449
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: doing the light thing. I know I thought it too,

450
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: but they still do that. Yes, of course, of course

451
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, it's still everywhere, but it's it's

452
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: still cute. I like, I like Christmas tropes. It doesn't

453
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: bother me. I saw it and I was like, oh,

454
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: they're doing the light thing. But I was like, it

455
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: really sets it up. I don't know, there's something about

456
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: Christmas lights. And I think also back then, I mean

457
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, oh gosh, it's time to decorate

458
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: for Christmas, and it's so romanticized in your mind, and

459
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: then when you're actually doing it, every you know, your

460
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: dad's over there yelling about the sideways tree, and you

461
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: know it ends up being kind of like a gosh

462
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: down and we're going to do this because it's Christmas

463
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: and we love each other. But exactly so very quickly,

464
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: my dad one year, he always wanted to buy the

465
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 1: biggest tree he could find, and one year didn't fit

466
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: into the house, so he caught off the top. So

467
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: it was just a cylinder from from Florida ceiling sailor.

468
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: We all walked in like what the hell did you do?

469
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: When he's like, I cut the wrong end of We

470
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: used to We used to not have Christmas. What we

471
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: what we would do is we would go take redwood

472
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: tree branches, so like rather, I guess my dad was

473
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: so cheap he didn't want to have to buy Christmas trees.

474
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: We were surrounded in northern California. It's you have done

475
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: every every everywhere was Christmas tree farms. People would leave

476
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: San Francisco to come to our town to buy Christmas trees,

477
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: like it's known for Christmas tree land. But we would

478
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: never buy a Christmas tree. We would build our own

479
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: Christmas tree by chopping down because redwood tree branches would

480
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: be like. So we had and we have this huge

481
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: kitchen area in the front of our house. My dad

482
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: built the house I grew up in. It has this

483
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: huge dining room area with like a thirty foot ceiling.

484
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: So we would get like twenty ft redwood branches, take

485
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: wires and wrap them together. These like in retrospects, the

486
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: big thing was that how tall they were. But in

487
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: retrospect must have been so ugly. These like wire wrapped

488
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: giant square redwood. You please provide us a picture of these.

489
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: They were huge. I mean every time people would come

490
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: to our house and be like, what is going on

491
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: because they would just be tall these And then we

492
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: had a platform with a train. My dad had a

493
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: train from I think it was from his child was

494
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: like not like now you can get like nice cute

495
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: h and O trans This was like I forget the gauge.

496
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: Like they're in the train community. There's a whole Like

497
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: these were like giant metal trains, Like they each each

498
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: car was like a foot long smoke and like we

499
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: would always start fires or shock ourselves trying to set

500
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: this thing up. Oh my god. I mean, by the way, listener,

501
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: when when writer tells you his dad built the house

502
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: he grew up in, you mean he actually built it

503
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: with his own two hands. It's a log cabin, right, No,

504
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean not a cabin. It's not. No, it's it's

505
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: it's it's it's actually it's a full house. It's he

506
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: just taught himself how to do it at the age

507
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 1: of like third. That's always yeah, that's always the way

508
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: your dad was. He'd like roll up in a car

509
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: and be like, oh where'd you get that? Be like

510
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: made it? Like can't built it? Like okay, well, you know,

511
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: you know it's funny. I finally asked him, like years later,

512
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: I was like, how did you learn to do all

513
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: the stuffs? Like I read a book, so I could

514
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: just read books and figure you know, it's time. That's

515
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: kind of like a YouTube people do that, but back

516
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: in his generation, it was like, you know, he he

517
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: was kind of exceptional in the sense that he would

518
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: just teach himself how to do crap and figure it out.

519
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: Man's unbelievable. Still can't hang that shelf I have leaning

520
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: up against my wall. I'll send my wife to go

521
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: do that for you. Okay, great, thank you. So um so,

522
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: Amy and Morgan come back from the mall. Morgan is

523
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: in a killer Philadelphia Eagles starter jacket. It looks really cool.

524
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't noticed it? Yeah, man, it was cool. I

525
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: was like, what where did they get that? I want it? Now? Um?

526
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: When Alan mentioned Santa, Morgan runs away screaming and so

527
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: and behind her, Betsy is doing the x X you

528
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: know with the hand motion do not do not mention. Uh.

529
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: And then she tells the story about how when Morgan

530
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: climbed up on Santa's lap, she told him that she

531
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: wanted a Susie Homemaker oven for Christmas, and then he

532
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: grabbed his chest, yelled Rudolph, and fell over. Now Morgan

533
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: thinks that she killed Santa Claus, but a hit man

534
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: looking elf gave him CPR and he survived. I loved

535
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: the setup for the hit man. I was like, why

536
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: did they? Just was like, because he's gonna show up

537
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: and he's gonna look like a hit man. Uh. This

538
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: storyline killed for Indie. He just thought this was the

539
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: funniest thing. I mean, once again, like the Morgan storylines

540
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: work so well for kids, and this one just like that.

541
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: He could not stop laughing. Like the second she ran

542
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: away screaming, he was like what what? And then when

543
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: he heard about Santa killing over, Oh my god, and

544
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: he just could not stop laughing. He thought it was

545
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: the funniest thing ever. Were holding it too much shirts

546
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: this episode? Oh yeah, too much? Okay? Okay, also show

547
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: you a little bit about how the producers knew so

548
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: much more about what they were doing. And then we oh, like,

549
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: it's like why what the parents thing? They didn't need

550
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: that the little kid? Why did they? And then you

551
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: watch it with people and you're like, oh god, they

552
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: knew exactly what they're doing. They knew exactly what they

553
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: were doing. I mean, that's that's you know, nuts to

554
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: think about that, because we wouldn't care again we're not

555
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: looking at the Morgan storyline, and then all of a

556
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: sudden you're watching it with somebody who's like, that's all

557
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: they loved. It's a genuinely funny storyline. It is. It's great, great,

558
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: it's great. So then Will comes down the stairs in

559
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: a glorious red and green clandy cane Christmas sweater. I'm sorry, canevest.

560
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: It is just glorious, and he announces himself by calling

561
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Morgan the weasel. Yep, I think this might be the

562
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: last time. It doesn't happen much anymore. But yes, I was.

563
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: Also I'm hoping it was so this is when my

564
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: weight started a little bit, but because I could see

565
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: it a little in my face. But this this sweater

566
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: vest did not help. I was oddly shaped through most

567
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: of this episode. But again I don't think it was me.

568
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: I think it was just the shape of the clothes.

569
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: Very It was very strange the clothes that they had us.

570
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think you had we had no

571
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: input on our clothing, right? I mean I didn't at all,

572
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: and you probably should have. Part of being an actor

573
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: is like understanding that, like your clothes are at the

574
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: end of But we didn't that's like part of being

575
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: a kid is just like what am I wearing? And

576
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: it works in this case because it helps create this

577
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: like cozy Christmas atmosphere that like doesn't make any sense. Actually,

578
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: why is Eric wearing this ugly Christmas Chris? It's very strange.

579
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: You don't know how close we are to Christmas. That's

580
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: the other thing. And I'd also like to point out,

581
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: and again you know that I've talked about this several times,

582
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: and I watched it with Sue this time, who she

583
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: pointed out to Alan does not look even at Eric's

584
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: in Eric's direction the entire episode it like he doesn't

585
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: know his oldest son. And then Corey comes in and

586
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: he's like, there he is apple of my eye. And

587
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: she was like, oh my god. They're an alternative reading

588
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: a boy beats World where Eric doesn't actually exist. That's

589
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: what it is. He's just like a figment of someone's imaginations.

590
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: Corey's all, it's so straight. It's now bordering on weird

591
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: to me, where it's like, dude, you've got another kid.

592
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: It's just bizarre. But yes, um, so Eric comes down.

593
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: He says the weasel has been singing that she murdered

594
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Santa Claus and uh um. Corey comes home to check

595
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: all the gifts under the tree. He talks more about

596
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: which gifts are going to be wool, that wool is

597
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: super itchy um. And this was a little unclear to me,

598
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: but I think what I gathered is that he checks

599
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: the packages under the tree that we're just put there

600
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: from Amy. Amy came in with a bag and he

601
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: checks them and sees that there are three gifts and

602
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: those three gifts are not all for Corey. Maybe there's

603
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: one for Eric, one for Morgan, and one for Corey.

604
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: And Corey picks it up and says, okay, three three

605
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: new packages and only one of them is wool. And

606
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: then he says he's going to run and go tell Sean.

607
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: And it was a little confusing to me because Rusty says,

608
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, wait, where are you going. Who are you

609
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: going to call? And he says, I'm gonna go. I'm

610
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: gonna go call Sean. And Alan says, I don't think

611
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: you should go call and exaggerate about your gifts. And

612
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what why is he saying he's

613
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: going to exaggerate about his gifts? But I think what

614
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: we were supposed to get was that Corey is going

615
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: to exaggerate and say that there were three new presents

616
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: under the tree just for him. Doesn't he say that?

617
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't he then say, I'm not going to tell him

618
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: I got one gift. I gotta tell him I got

619
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: four or something. Actually, Okay, Yeah, they mentioned the word exaggerate.

620
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: Is in these between the two of them mentioned like

621
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: three or four times. He says he shouldn't exaggerate to Sean,

622
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: and then he says, well, of course I have to

623
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: exaggerate because Sean's got a whole truckload of things there.

624
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: And then he says, well, I think Sean may have

625
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: been exaggerating about his gifts. And we learned through Alan

626
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: that Sean's dad has been laid off from his job.

627
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: And even though Corey um knows Sean very well, Sean

628
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: has not shared that with him, So Corey was not

629
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: aware of that. And he also says, but that's that cow?

630
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: Can that be? Sean says he's getting a whole bunch

631
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: of gifts, So Corey asks if it would be okay

632
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: for him to give Sean one of his gifts or

633
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: not actually one of his gifts. If he could give

634
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: Sean a gift from under their tree, and Alan says

635
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: that that would be totally fine. He runs to the

636
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: tree and he decides, I'm going to try to give

637
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: him one of Eric's gifts. Very funny. Alan says, who's Eric.

638
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: That's how we know you do exist? Because he doesn't

639
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: say that, so he gives him a look, So you exist?

640
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: You exist? Um. Then very cute scene we Morgan is

641
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: locked herself in the bathroom. It's in Corey and Eric's bedroom.

642
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: Morgan is singing Christmas songs at the top of her lungs.

643
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: She's clearly traumatized. She will not come out because she

644
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: thinks that she killed Santa. And Eric says that Santa

645
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: just called him, and he tells Morgan that Santa said

646
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Ho ho ho, and then he pretends that Santa had

647
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: a heart attack. Will You were so funny in this,

648
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: So I was very happy. This was This is the

649
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: other thing I remember, this was the biggest laugh I'd

650
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: ever gotten at a table read to that point. Was

651
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: that ho ho was the biggest laugh I'd gotten at

652
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: that point, and it felt so good. I was like, oh,

653
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a big, loud joke. And it

654
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: was Yeah, that was a fun one. Do you also

655
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: notice calling myself out? I mouthed the words along with Betsy,

656
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: No do I do? It's it's on the cameras on Betsy.

657
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: But I am clearly saying her dialogue like like it's

658
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: not even like kind of doing it, like I am

659
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: clearly mouthing along with Betsy. Yeah, I even rewound it.

660
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 1: I'm like, yep, I'm oh man, I'm full on saying

661
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: her lines. Yeah, so absolutely with Betsy. Yep. I did

662
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: not notice it. But you, I love the I love

663
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: you too in the scene, the way she laughs at

664
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: you doing that, even though you know clearly she's worried

665
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: that Morgan is traumatized, but she laughs along at how

666
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: funny you are and what you're doing. Um, you two

667
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: together in the scene are such a joy to watch,

668
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: Like it's very cute, very fun. Eric eventually says that

669
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Santa said Morgan had been such a good girl this

670
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: year and that he should give Morgan a gift, and

671
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: she's like, what is it? And he says, how about

672
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: this new flannel shirt that you love? And she opens

673
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: the bathroom door, grabs it from you, and then has

674
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: to slam the door. Three times she's trying to fit

675
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: the shirt into the bathroom. Funny joke that nineties flannel. Man,

676
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: Oh man, I miss a good flannel over an open

677
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: flannel over a T shirt. Man, it's still one of

678
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: my favorite looks. Still do it? Yeah, it's pretty great.

679
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: Then we're in the Matthew's backyard. Corey hands Shawn a

680
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: gift and it is his leather NBA regulation basketball. Sean

681
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: asks why Corey is giving him this gift because they

682
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: never never give each other Christmas presents, and Corey says

683
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: that this year is different, and so this is where

684
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: we established for the first time kind of that Corey

685
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: and Sean have been best friends. Yeah, the way back.

686
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: And apparently I've spent many weeks having an origin story

687
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: for Shaun and Corey. I don't remember. I know the

688
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: Topanga origin story ends up being that, like me in

689
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: the Sandbox, we actually recreated it right with young actors,

690
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: But I don't Is that also the moment that Shawn

691
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: and Corey became friends or were we already friends before

692
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: the Sandbox? I'm sure they ever talked about it. I

693
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: never talked about it. I don't think they did. You're

694
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: just always have been best friends. I guess just through

695
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: just the two of you, there was never a third

696
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: person you even attempted to be friends. Yeah, I know,

697
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: no such thing as the best chair. Um, okay, can

698
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: we talk about because I'm I'm very curious how our

699
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: listeners feel about or what the knowledge base of our

700
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: listeners is. When the basketball in the beginning of this

701
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: scene rolls towards upstage, I had this fear that it

702
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: was going to hit the scrim right in the back,

703
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: and I realized, Oh, maybe people don't know what a

704
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: scrim is or what's happening, because I've had new explained

705
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: this to Indie that all UH sitcoms are shot indoors,

706
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: so if there's an outside scene, it's completely fake that

707
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: it's outside and you can actually see the line where

708
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: So what what The way that these sets are built

709
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: is that there's a giant photograph. They take photographs of

710
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: like woods and trees, blow it up to huge proportions,

711
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: so it's like thirty ft tall and eight ft long

712
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: or whatever, and they hang that and light it from behind,

713
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: so it creates the sense of depth. But actually the

714
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: set ends right there, like basically at the end of

715
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: the fence where feeding the fence that divides the yards

716
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: ends that is the end of the set, and that's

717
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: a giant photograph scrim that's hanging from the ceiling, and

718
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: you can see the line where the ground meets the scrim,

719
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: and I was terrified that the basketball was going to

720
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: hit it, which would have, you know, shaken it. Oh

721
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: my god. And then I just thought we should mention, like,

722
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: those are all fake backgrounds. We we do shoot outside

723
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: I think second season and a couple of couple of

724
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: seasons we ended up going on look Aitian, but for

725
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: the most part, everything's indoors. I just thought we should

726
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 1: point that out. I also think there's something interesting about

727
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: the fact that it is supposed to be like December

728
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: twenty one in Philadelphia and you can't see anybody's breath,

729
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: that nobody's really that cold. I mean, you've got Phoenie

730
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: kind of covering later the roses, but it's not like

731
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: it's certainly, you know, growing growing up back east, it

732
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't look like late December on the East coast.

733
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: Um So that was the other thing where I was

734
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: kind of like, man, it doesn't even look like it's cold.

735
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: Nobody's wearing coats, no, or they are, but it's they're

736
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: like vesty coats and it's yeah, it's like, what is

737
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: what is going on? Vest coats? They were fest coats?

738
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Hashtag fest coats. Uh. So. Corey says that this year

739
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: is different and that he got him the gift because

740
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: he didn't think Sean would be getting many gifts this year.

741
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Sean tries to cover up again, saying he's getting a

742
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: ton of gifts, but Corey says he knows about Shawn's

743
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: dad getting laid off and best friends don't lie to

744
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: each other. Sean gets upset think that Corey is telling

745
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: everyone about his dad, and they get into an argument

746
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: about the gift. Sean doesn't want the stinking basketball A

747
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: drama writer. You are, no, I mean you really do.

748
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: This is That's why I'm amazed you don't remember this

749
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: episode because this is like your episode. I know this

750
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: is the one. I mean you because my wheelhouse. Maybe

751
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: this is just what it's drawn to histrionics and brooding,

752
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: but it worked, it worked great, and this is like

753
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: the Orange, this is your genesis. I mean, man, I know,

754
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: I know it's so funny that no recollection amazing. So

755
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: Sean walks off and Corey says, Christmas is about charity.

756
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: You should be thanking me. Phoene is back there in

757
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: his backyard or sideyard or whatever you want to come

758
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: every yard, it is covering his flowers with yes. Yeah,

759
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: you cut your roses and then you cover them back

760
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: east and then all that kind of stuff. Yeah, I

761
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: was explained, I was, I don't understand this thing. I'm

762
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: a California guy. Exactly. Back see there's things called weather

763
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: and sea not on television, not apparent, yes, exactly. So

764
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: he's covering his roses with potato sacks and Corey and Sean.

765
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: Corey says that Sean was not paying attention to a

766
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: Christmas carol, and Phoene says it was actually Corey who

767
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention to the book. Because a true gift

768
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: is given with no expectation, and friendship is the real gift.

769
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: And now this is social studies. Thank you. I was

770
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: just about to say, he's this is history. Why, yeah,

771
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I love it. I was like, what is he teaching now?

772
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, what huh? Yeah, this is a

773
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: real stereotypical no continuity in history class. Today we'll be

774
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: reading Charles Dickens I mean, the should have made him

775
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: an English teacher, because I feel we end up doing

776
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: mostly references to sure. I mean, even Man Frank could

777
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: have been read in an English class, right, like And

778
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: I think it's patently obvious to me now that like

779
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: Michael Jacobs is a is a lover of literature, he's

780
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: a lover of books, and so all the references that are.

781
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: And of course I think writers in general more in

782
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: date towards fiction and storyteller. So I I'm surprised I

783
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: just didn't make Phoene and English. Yeah, why do you

784
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: think they made him a social studies teacher? I don't know.

785
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: I think it maybe it was just broad enough that

786
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: you could include some books and then also I don't know,

787
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: but I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter, right,

788
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: It's not like people at home care in general. I

789
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: thought this was a nice weaving of a life lesson

790
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: with this, so I thought so too, Yeah, this is

791
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: another another good Phoenie momentum, all that kind of stuff

792
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: that was great. So, uh, we're in the Matthews living room.

793
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: Morgan finally comes down. She's now wearing a bunch of

794
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: necklaces Eric's flannel. She's got jewelry from mom. She's got

795
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: cool sunglasses on. Morgan tells Alan that the elf from

796
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: the mall called her a demon child after Santa almost died,

797
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: and Amy explains that she never has to worry about

798
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: that mean elf ever again. And the elf who was

799
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: basically in the mafia knocks on the door and gives

800
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: Amy her money back from the picture because they didn't

801
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: end up getting to a cigar. What is going on?

802
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's not lit so but you would never

803
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: see that a television. We don't show anybody smoking. But

804
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: back then, the idea that this elf sitting there with

805
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: the smoke. I'm here to return your money. He's like,

806
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: I've I've driven thirty two miles to give you nine

807
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: dollars back, lady. It was like, okay, it boom. At

808
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: least it's not a stereotype. Uh. But then we're back

809
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: in the school cafeteria. Mincus approaches Shawn again asking for

810
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: the five dollars. He's very aggressive about it. Uh, Sean

811
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: and dead beat a deadbeat for five bucks. It was

812
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: so harsh to me, Like, it's so harsh. I can't

813
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: believe that. Yeah, it was really painful for me when

814
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: watching this and him saying like, I'm going to not

815
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: add your name. Your your name is not going to

816
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: be on the card, and then the whole school is

817
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: going to know you're a deadbeat. It was like, Wow,

818
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: it's like a brilliant I know it was. It was

819
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: really hard. I have to say though, this was the

820
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: scene where I actually watching it kind of got a

821
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: little emotional because I was watching myself, you know, in

822
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: a moment with a confrontation, and there's like this pause

823
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: that I took that's like very long and uncomfortable, and

824
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: I looking at myself, I was like, I don't know

825
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say, Like I didn't and I was like,

826
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: oh God, like what do you say? I was suddenly

827
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: very hurt for sure. Oh oh, that's it felt very

828
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: real that that moment, you know, as opposed to like

829
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: throw in the basketball at Cory or whatever, like this

830
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: moment of just Sean absorbing macas anchor or Mikus is

831
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: calling him a deadbeat. I don't know. I was like, oh,

832
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of emotional. It's kind of usually emotional,

833
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: but it was also it was just so vicious where

834
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: it's like, not only are am I not going to

835
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: put your name on the card, so everyone, but I'm

836
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna make sure everybody knows that you're a deadbeat. Like

837
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: it was harsh to me, it was super marsh. Yeah,

838
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: I agree with you, writer. This was this was a

839
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: kind of the emotional moment when you're really feeling for Sean,

840
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: like just putting yourself in the shoes of a child

841
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: who is in those circumstances. And the pause you took

842
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: it was very meaningful and impactful. So yeah, it was.

843
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: It was an emotional moment. Um. And Sean walks away

844
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: and Corey comes up and tells Macus to leave him alone.

845
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: He comes up in his beautiful dinosaur shirt. This is

846
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: just like dinosaurs after the age. Son is already too

847
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: old to like dinosaurs besides Jurassic Park. He's like, you know,

848
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: he would never wear a T shirt with dinosaurs Ona,

849
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: and he's seven dinosaur aop. It's an all overprint. It's

850
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: just a dinosaur everywhere, big grand You're going to rocket

851
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: Rannosaurus rex rocket absolutely um. And so Corey says that

852
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: Sean doesn't have the money, and uh, Corey covers for Sean.

853
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: He gives him the five dollars because He says he

854
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: borrowed five dollars from Sean last week and then never

855
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: paid him back. But he has the five dollars that

856
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 1: he owes to Sean now, so instead of just giving

857
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: it to Sean, he's going to give it direct directly

858
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: to Mincus and that it's actually morality of charity. And

859
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: lyone is okay, yeah, of course, Like outright, why couldn't

860
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: he just say I'm going to take care of this

861
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: for sure, you know, because he's trying to you know,

862
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: he's trying to protect Sean's the feelings and he does.

863
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: Sean obviously doesn't want people to know, and you know,

864
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: so he's being He's a good I am okay, hold

865
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: on second, I am really opposed to lying. I am

866
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: a terrible liar. I am awful at lying. All three

867
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: of us we've talked about it a million times. We're like, listen,

868
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: we are we cannot stand it. It's just terrible because

869
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: people assume actors would be great, which is such a

870
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: weird equivalency that I've never understood. Like, I'm horrible at line.

871
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: For the reason I think I'm better at acting than

872
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Line is because I have to be honest. It's like

873
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: I have to express the emotion. I'm good at lying.

874
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why I don't do it. It's honestly

875
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: why I don't do it because I'm really really good

876
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: at it. So that's why I don't do it. I'm scrible.

877
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: I do like all the stereotypical like I'm the guy

878
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: who gets nervous going through security at the airport for

879
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: no reason, like I'm just already guilty, like I've done

880
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: something wrong. Oh yeah, no I can. I can have

881
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: a half a pound of heroin key Stard and get

882
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: right through, not a problem. Did you just verb Keystard

883
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: got a key STARp, Babe? I'm sorry. I watched too

884
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 1: much Locked Up Abroad and all these other shows about

885
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: people that are hiding hiding drugs on him. Don't do

886
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: drug kid, and so writer, I am a hundred percent

887
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: okay with this. Lie me too, Okay, what I want

888
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: to talk about it, I'm not because I I was

889
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: just throwing it out there. Is kind of funny, But

890
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I think more ridiculous to me is that that Macus

891
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: doesn't pick up on it. It's like he's supposed to

892
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: be this, but I think, like Will said, the joke

893
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: is that he's he's book smart. He's not street smart, right,

894
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: so Corey, who is more street smart, is able to

895
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: manipulate the situation for the good of the you know,

896
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: the friendship and everything and and chair Yeah, yeah, I

897
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: think that we'd have to we'd get into a much

898
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: longer discussion, which would be one of our Boy meets

899
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: World onset discussions of what constitutes a lie. Is a

900
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: lie simply just not telling the truth, no matter what

901
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: the background of the story you're telling is, Even if

902
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: it's to save a friend the way he did, is

903
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: that still a lie? Is that? Is that then if

904
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: you're getting semantic into its semantic argument, is that more

905
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: of a fib that a lie? Well, you know it's

906
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: like because that would be the question is what cons

907
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: I don't think what whether or not it fits into

908
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: the definition of a lie is as important as whether

909
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 1: or not the greater good for the reason of the lie.

910
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: To me is whether or not your lie is justified.

911
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: If it's just to save yourself, like you know, oh,

912
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: I I'm going to get in trouble, so I'm not

913
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: going to be honest about it. That is a different

914
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: situation than if I'm honest in this situation, I may

915
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: be further embarrassing someone, and I'm I would like to

916
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: protect this person from something he's already seen with his

917
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: own two eyes is embarrassing for him. It wasn't even

918
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: an assumption that it's hard for him. He Corey has

919
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: a hundred percent all the evidence he needs to know

920
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: that this situation is very emotional for Sean, and so

921
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: to protect his friend, he is gonna lie to Mancus

922
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: about something that's totally inconsequential. And so I think, I mean,

923
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: I really think this is a beautiful act of friendship

924
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: and I think he Corey does exactly the right thing. Right.

925
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: The ethics panel has ruled have a world that's fine,

926
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: and thank you, we allow it exactly. Thank god Phoenie,

927
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: as an art teacher, has taught them all these moralities

928
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: to very important, very important. Okay, can we UM, can

929
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: we try uh something new for our podcast? I have

930
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: something to uh so. In in the course of UH

931
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: one of our recent episodes airing where we uh met

932
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: meat Poenie, UM, I sort of threw out there, like

933
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: how how how were we doing meat loaf? Meat Loaf

934
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a thing, you know, It was like turns out

935
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: I Will Do Anything for Love was the number two

936
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: songs on the Billboard charts at the time of that episodes. Eric, So,

937
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys some questions about popular songs,

938
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: popular movies, and popular TV shows the time that this

939
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: episode aired. This episode on December ten, the day before

940
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait to fail this December ten. I'm going

941
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: to keep view three songs and you have to tell

942
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: me which one was on was the number one song

943
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: on the Billboard charts on December tenth. I Will Always

944
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: Love You by Whitney Houston again by Janet Jackson, or

945
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: on Ben did Knee by Boys to Man. I'm going

946
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: with Whitney Houston. I will Love You by Whitney Houston

947
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: was from the movie she did with Kevin Costner, which

948
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: The Bodyguard, which was later than ninety three, wasn't it.

949
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: I could so be wrong. Well, I know I'm going

950
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: to fail this. I just went with my gut. I'm gonna,

951
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna take Boys to Men on Ben Didney,

952
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take on Ben Didee by Boys Men and

953
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: Danielle You're going with Whitney. I'm going with Whitney both completely.

954
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: It was again by Janet Jackson. I Will Always Love

955
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: You was the top song in ninety two that same week,

956
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: and on Ben Didney was the next year at December,

957
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 1: so it was again by Janet Jackson, and like I said,

958
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: I Will Always I Would Do Anything for Love by

959
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: Meat Love was the number two songs that very week,

960
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: which I was obsessed with that album when it came out.

961
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: So this first season, I was actually listening to me,

962
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: which is so funny that I completely misremember. Okay, movies,

963
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: Todd movies at the box office, number one film at

964
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: the box office that week in was it Wayne's World two?

965
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: Oh geeze, Disclosure or Home Alone Too? Lost in New York. Wow,

966
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: I'll take three movies. I'd never want to watch Alex

967
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: for five really Home Alone Too? And and Wayne's World Too.

968
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean Waynes World two was okay, I guess, but

969
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean a completely weird out of time movie. It's like,

970
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: first it's Michael Douglas and Demi Moore and she sexually

971
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: harassed sex. It was based on Michael crist so like

972
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: we remember that and then it's on tape and it's

973
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: caught on tape. It was like one of those like

974
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: nineties backlash to feminist movies, like kind of nobody wants

975
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: to remember all right, anyway, any ideas gosh, I mean,

976
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: with absolutely no reason at all, I'm just gonna go

977
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: with Wayne's World two. You know what, I'm going to

978
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: jump on that bad that bandwagon. I'm gonna say Wayne's

979
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: World two and and for no reason at all with Danielle,

980
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say were correct too. Was the number one

981
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: movie Mrs Doubtfire was also in the theaters and was

982
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: the top box office, which started Matthew Lawrence join our show.

983
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 1: But I know, like I would have thought Wayne's World

984
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: was later, because I remember voting Wayne's World and being

985
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: really into it, But which means I was WAYNS World

986
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: one was to come out like a year or two earlier,

987
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: so I was pretty young to be into Wayne's World.

988
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: It seems like a very teenage thing. I have to say,

989
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: I don't remember the storyline of Wayne's World two at all.

990
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: I never saw it. Now, television ratings are very hard

991
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: to get. Um you can't get weekly ratings, so all

992
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: I have are the season, this entire season of television.

993
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: They have been Home Improvement, So rather than asking you

994
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: about the top shows, which I think would be a

995
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: little easier, I'm gonna ask I'm gonna give you four shows.

996
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you this Boy Meets World was

997
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: in the top forty Nielsen ratings. Okay, we're forty or higher. Okay.

998
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to list four shows and you have

999
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: to tell me if they are in the top thirty

1000
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: for the top fifty the category of Boy Meets World.

1001
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: So listener, when he says forty or above, he means

1002
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: anywhere from one to forty, and then yeah, so and so.

1003
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 1: Then so basically you have to decide is it above

1004
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: or below Boy Meets World? In well More? Yeah, better

1005
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: rated or worse rated? Okay? Walker Texas Ranger, Oh my gosh,

1006
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: Sir Charles Television, we call him Sir Charles. We were

1007
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: obsessed with w never watched it, but we I mean,

1008
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: let's be honest, we thought it was a horrible show. Yeah,

1009
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: it was so much fun of it. That was like

1010
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: a backstage right, So, okay, should I list all four

1011
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: and then you guys put them? Okay, go ahead? The

1012
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: Simpsons okay, mad about you? Okay, Family matters. Ah, I'm

1013
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna okay, I would say they were all more popular

1014
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: than us. But Walker Texas Ranger, right, I mean better

1015
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: than us? Right. Wasn't Walker Texas Ranger a syndicated like

1016
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: TB show. It wasn't on the one of the major networks.

1017
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: Is the thing that is correct? Yeah, so I'm gonna

1018
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: say Walker Texas Ranger was rated worse than we are.

1019
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Family Matters, Well, the Simpsons was definitely

1020
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: better than us. Family Matters because they were our lead

1021
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: in I'm going to say is better than us. And

1022
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: I thought Mad About You was like top ten. I

1023
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: thought they were like six or seven. So that's my

1024
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: the I'll let Daniel answer. That's gonna be my answer.

1025
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: Walker Texas Ranger worse, the other three better, that's my answer.

1026
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say they were all better than Boy Meets

1027
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: World in the ratings. Okay, will you are close? Okay,

1028
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: believe it or not, the Simpsons was worse rated than World.

1029
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: Oh because it was on Fox. Because it was on Fox.

1030
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: It was Fox. Yes, foxhold not really even a network. Yes,

1031
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: of course that's my bad. Of course, Mad About You

1032
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: and Family Matters were in the top thirty, so they

1033
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: were well ahead of us. Not not well. I mean

1034
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: like Mad About You was not top ten. It was

1035
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: in the top thirty, not top ten. And Walker Texas

1036
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: Ranger and the Simpsons were lower rated than us. In fact,

1037
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: I believe Walker Texas Ranger was higher rated than the Simpsons.

1038
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: That's why, of course, because Fox had was like just

1039
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: a fledgling net was like three guys in advance. Yes,

1040
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: what was in the top thirty though, m X files.

1041
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: I watched that show religiously, that which was a Fox show.

1042
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: Evening Shade was doing better than thunder Alley. Yeah, oh

1043
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. X

1044
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: files was not x files was in the bottom it

1045
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: was it was. It was less than a tenant a

1046
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: half share. I totally because because the reponse, Yeah, thunder

1047
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: Alley and Evening Shade were top thirty show. How can

1048
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: thunder Alden? Did that go like two seasons and then

1049
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: Thunder wasn't what's his name was on Thunder ally Andrew Kegan?

1050
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: Andrew Kegan. Yeah, we should also Andrew Kegan on the

1051
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: show when we get to remember that. Like at the time,

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00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: networks were about distributing audiences, right, So like if a

1053
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: show like you know, Boy Meets World. Even though we

1054
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: were top forty, we maintained a certain audience for ABC

1055
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: that they didn't want to let go of, so they

1056
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: just kept renewing us, as opposed to other shows that

1057
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: had higher expectations like maybe Evening Shade with a Burt Reynolds,

1058
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, that would get canceled after it was only

1059
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: in the top thirty or top forty, because you know,

1060
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: they wanted it to be a huge hit show. If

1061
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: you've got if you're paying for Burt Reynolds and your

1062
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: rank twin eight, that's a fail. That's a fail. You

1063
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, that's not a good thing. Wow,

1064
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm so curious how our listeners did at home, So

1065
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: please write in. Yeah, let us know how you did.

1066
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: Let us know whether you passed or failed or next

1067
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: episode I call it writer to where Now you are

1068
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: going to be asked the same questions, So don't look

1069
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: it up next time. I'll look it up next time,

1070
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 1: and so next time we when we do this, I'll

1071
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: have those same questions ready for everybody else. So I

1072
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: know I'm going to flail. Yeah, I'm terrible at this.

1073
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: I got I only got Wayne's World two I got

1074
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: one out of three and we both guessed on that.

1075
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: We both totally guest done that. Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll

1076
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: take care of so. That was really fun. Writer, thank

1077
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: you for bringing up into so in Phoenie's classroom, Mincus

1078
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: in yet another festive sweater vest prevents Mr Peenie with

1079
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: the sixth grades Christmas gift to him, and it is

1080
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: a dictionary and writer, you have a very cool outfit

1081
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: on here. You have the long sleeve yellow like you know,

1082
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: crew neck sweater or shirt under a purple short eave

1083
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: t shirt. And then you have what I believe is

1084
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: a purple flannel that had the sleeves cut. It has

1085
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: very jagged edges, so the sleeves were cut off of it.

1086
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: And then of course, um, I thought it was going

1087
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: to have a hood, but it is well, his father

1088
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: was his father was laid off, so he couldn't afford

1089
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: the sleeves of the hood exactly. He had to he

1090
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: had to cut it off in order for him from

1091
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: to get it. Um. So, Phoene reads the card and

1092
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: you can tell that Sean is uncomfortable. This is a

1093
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: moment he's not been looking forward to and constantly looking

1094
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: around and you're looking around, you're covering your face. But

1095
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: it's absurd that Mincus on that tiny card has written

1096
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: names or whatever. It's like, come on, it's so ridiculous.

1097
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: And Phoeny says that the card has everyone's name from Mincus,

1098
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: who was first because he paid first, all the way

1099
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: to Hunter at the end, and Sean perks up, like,

1100
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: what my name's on the card? Uh? And everybody? Then

1101
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: the bell rings and that's it. It's it's Christmas break.

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: Everybody runs out and in the hallway. Sean thanks Mancus

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01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: for putting his name on the card, but Manca says,

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01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: we get to the hallway, did anybody else notice the

1105
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: boom big microphone right in the shot as everybody everybody's

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01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: running out of the classroom, there's Jesse. See the microphone

1107
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: just right there trailing and following everyone, like a big

1108
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: old boom right in the shot. I must have been

1109
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: writing a note. I looked down. Oh that's funny. No,

1110
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: I didn't notice it. Nice catch, Thank you. So Sean

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: thanks Mancus for putting his name on the card. But

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Speaker 1: Minca says, the hallway right, I know, yeah, they that's

1113
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: like built this little extra set. It's cool. Yeah, they

1114
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: built this little thing just for you guys to have

1115
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: this moment. Uh And and Minca says, thank your deadbeat

1116
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: friend Corey for giving him the five dollars back that

1117
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: he owed him. And Sean realizes that Corey has his back,

1118
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: and in a very nice moment, he then wishes Mancus

1119
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: a Merry Christmas. Very sweet hey Mancas dot dot dot

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Speaker 1: Merry Chris, Mary, Chris. Yes so good. Well hearing you

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Speaker 1: do it now, one prisoner in the fifties, like fifties

1122
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: movie in jail, like cooking to the other prison Merry Christmas.

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01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: I guess it was like Merry Christmas, Mink. It was

1124
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: so sweet. And then Minka says really, and he wishes

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01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: Sean and merry Christmas too. And then we're in the

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01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: Matthews backyard. Sean walks up to Corey and gives him

1127
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: an old basketball net he found in his garage. Sean

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01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: says he figured Corey now has the net and Sean

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: has the basketball and kind of alludes to the idea

1130
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: that he would accept the gift. Uh, And Corey and

1131
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: Sean steal the ball from each other. There at this

1132
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: point in my heart is racing because I realized I'm

1133
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: probably gonna play basketball. I was. I literally said the

1134
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: best driveler I know. I looked great. Oh, I really

1135
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: don't do it, writer, don't do it. Oh my god,

1136
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm I did a movie between I don't know if

1137
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: it's between first and second season or second and third season.

1138
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: I did an ABC movie of the Week called Summertime

1139
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: Switch where I had to play basketball, and it was

1140
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: the worst experience they had. You know, they had a professional,

1141
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: like professional, like a teenager who could be my body

1142
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: double to play basketball actually dribble? Yes, who could actually

1143
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: dribble the ball. Oh, I didn't know basic rules, Like

1144
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything. And I remember I had to

1145
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: play basketball. The whole movie ininges on like the big game.

1146
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so embarrassing. And so when I

1147
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: saw this, I was like, oh god, I'm gonna start dribbling.

1148
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: This is gonna be bad, going through the legs and

1149
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: looking at my hand the entire time because I'm terrified,

1150
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like bending down to be closer to the ground.

1151
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: I thought it looked pretty natural, I thought. I thought

1152
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. Uh, And so, yeah, you

1153
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: guys dribble the ball back and forth. It ends on

1154
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: a very plateful, playful note um, and then we are

1155
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: back in the Matthews living room. The family is wrapping

1156
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: up gifts and Korey and Sean come in playing basketball.

1157
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: Amy offers Sean to stay for dinner, but he decides

1158
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: to go home to see his dad, um, and Amy

1159
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: sends him off with Christmas cookies and as he walks out,

1160
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: he says, he has friends, so Christmas is going to

1161
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: be okay. And the audience did I think it's first

1162
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: on this shows, which I did in the room with

1163
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: my family before the all started. I went, and then

1164
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: it happened and we're all like, oh, I kind of

1165
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: hate those moments, I have to say, like not not that,

1166
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, I hate the obligatory, like when an audience

1167
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: woos for kisses or clause like I don't know, man,

1168
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: Like the laughter is one thing, but those sort of

1169
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: like it just it just makes I don't know, it

1170
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: makes me uncomfortable. I mean maybe it's natural, but it

1171
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: just it feels forced to me right, like, well, it

1172
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: takes away from the moment, like I would rather the

1173
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: moment just kind of live and we move on. But

1174
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: when an audience lets you know, the home viewer how

1175
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: to feel. It's just like it, like, I like that

1176
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: because I like that our audience was like interactive with us,

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: are liked to me, I know it. It was so strange.

1178
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: It was two different things. To me. I never thought

1179
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: about the home audience. I always just played to the

1180
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: three people that were there. So it was that like

1181
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: those people that interactive, like I was looking for that response.

1182
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: So when they're invested to like And it got better because,

1183
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: especially when we hadn't aired yet, it was forced. You

1184
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: could tell when the laughter was like you heard the

1185
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: audience when they're faking their laughter, or when they were

1186
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: faking the clapping or the like, you knew it. You

1187
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: could feel it. So it was this was we had

1188
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: started to air, so we were starting to get some fans.

1189
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean later in the seasons you could tell when

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01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: they were fully interactive with us. It was great. Um,

1191
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: so that I never minded that if it was natural,

1192
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: if it was real, then I didn't want it. By

1193
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: the fourth take, you could tell people were faking it.

1194
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: That's exactly That's what I was going to say, is

1195
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: that I think most of the time it happened. It

1196
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: happened because enough people in the audience actually had that

1197
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: verbal reaction that it's that. Then it made everyone kind

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01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: of say it out loud. And then the feeling you're

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01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: tapping into, I think is take two. Now they've done

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01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: it the first time, so now they feel like it's

1201
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: their line, and now that's how they're participating in it.

1202
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: And what you're feeding off of is that feeling of like, guys,

1203
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: you don't have to give me that. It's okay. But

1204
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: I do think that most of the time it happened,

1205
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: it happened after the first one was very natural. And

1206
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: then the adjecta you're feeling is the repetition of doing it.

1207
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: Now we have to do it five more times exactly.

1208
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, because I remember, like remember the episode when

1209
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: Corey and when to Panka moves to Pittsburgh and then

1210
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: she comes back in the rain and verbally yeah, and

1211
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: they were yeah, And it really was like that reaction,

1212
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: And I know that that first all was I guarantee

1213
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 1: you the first very touching moment between Corey and Seawan

1214
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: that was filmed in front of the live studio audience,

1215
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: and I guarantee you it was a natural I know

1216
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: we're jumping way ahead, but that episode where you come back.

1217
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: Was a long walk to Pittsburgh. That this and that

1218
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: might be the most real natural reaction we ever got

1219
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: in seven years from an audience. Was that moment right?

1220
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: That gasp was so natural? It was just such a

1221
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: cold Yeah, that was awesome. That was very cool. Yeah,

1222
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that when we get to eleven years.

1223
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Should we do a little too

1224
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: much shirts, Yes, yes, this is a very short one.

1225
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: It was pretty remarkable that. Indeed, I didn't notice me

1226
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: in the episode. Yeah, I was like, because when we've

1227
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: watched the show before, he was always like, Dad, you

1228
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: were so good, and this one is like all about me.

1229
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: He didn't. You could tell like I'm trying to get

1230
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: it to talk about it. He doesn't, doesn't even notice.

1231
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: He just loved the mortgage storyline. And then turns out

1232
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: this is the first episode of Boy because world my

1233
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: wife has ever seen. Really wow, wait, did you not

1234
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: know she had never seen an episode? We should do

1235
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: a podcast where we start over and watch it with her.

1236
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: May think we should do a podcast where we talk

1237
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: about the fact that you guys have never talked about

1238
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: this before. You've literally never said have you ever seen

1239
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: an episode? It just never came up. No, I mean,

1240
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: I know she had never watched it, like she you know,

1241
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: she said like, oh I didn't watch your show. I

1242
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: was too old, like she she was a generation she's

1243
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: four years older than me, so she missed it in

1244
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: that regard um and and yeah, listen it's quick. That

1245
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: was my favorite episode really? Yeah? Why so far? Well

1246
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: there were some sad parts too. What happened with my character?

1247
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: You didn't get any presence when you were? Said? Yeah,

1248
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: why didn't I get any presents? As you understand that,

1249
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: it's because my dad got laid off. Do you know

1250
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: what that means? It means my dad lost his job.

1251
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: Anything else? Favorite joke from the episode? I like whenever

1252
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: did the sand Apart? Yeah, that was a pretty funny storylines.

1253
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh when Will pretended that he was Santa dying? Yeah,

1254
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: it was pretty good. Did you like the episode? Mom?

1255
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: Is this the first time you've seen Boimi's World? Mom?

1256
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: It is? What? Yeah, that's pretty crazy. You've never seen

1257
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 1: a single episode on help me? Like now, that's crazy.

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01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 1: It does seem kind of crazy, Like it never occurred

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01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: to her to sit down and watch her husband's childhood

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01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: TV show. It's creepy watching your husband when they're twelve.

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Speaker 1: It now, no friends, dad better looking as a twelve

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01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: year old. Yeah, yeah, so that that was indistinct. Yeah,

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: which I didn't quite I never thought about. But yeah,

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01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: I guess it weirds her out to say. But yeah, no,

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01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: I you know, we we started dating on a TV

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: show together, um, and we've you know, had various experiences

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01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 1: watching each other's work, but not I guess she just

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: never went back. It's probably one of those things that's

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01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: so ubiquitous, like in our lives. It's like one of

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: those things that you know, it's obviously a huge part

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01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: of my public life, but it's just never been a

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01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: part of our private life. And so yeah, I didn't

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01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: realize when we sat down to watch it, um, that

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01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: that she had never seen. Oh that's so funny. Even

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01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 1: with all the discussion about the we're doing a rewatch podcast,

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01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: it's never come up. Hey maybe I should watch one.

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01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: I mean, when Tony Quinn came up with the idea

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01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: for this podcast, how did you not say, Alex watch

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01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 1: an episode? Yeah, I don't know. It's it's you know,

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01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: I think I think it probably makes her uncomfortable, like

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01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: she makes the joke about like seeing me as creepy.

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01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: But I think it's also just I don't know, you know,

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: Like I think it's a huge it's it's such a

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01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: huge part of my it's a it's a huge part

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01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: of my public identity. But I very much Downplayboy and

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01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: The's world in my private life for obviously, Like and

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01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: I think, especially when we first met when I was

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01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: twenty six, it was very important for me to downplay

1289
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: you know, like if people, if somebody recognized me or

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01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: was a fan of the show, it would be very

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01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: hard for me to get over, Like, it would be

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01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: very hard for me to to to become friends with

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01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: that person or to like bridge that gap. Now I

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: don't care, you know, now I'm old enough and passed

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: it enough that but I think when we first started dating,

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: it was probably part of our you know, coupling, for

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: her to not care and to not just to completely

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: disregard this huge part of my life. And so I

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01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 1: think now to be confronted with it is just bizarre.

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: And I couldn't. I couldn't go on a date with

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01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: a woman unless she'd seen every single episode only dated

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01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, let's let's talk about me on

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: this show and then we'll talk about that. Do you

1304
01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 1: remember my ho ho because killed about that? Yes, you

1305
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: can order the dessert that was that was that was

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01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: dating for me. Oh man, wow, that was great. Thank

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01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: you writer, and thank you Indee, thank you Alex. So.

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01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: Then there is a knock at the back door, Alan yelle,

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01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: somebody's at the back door. And then this is one

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01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: of those moments I can't believe I did remember Bill, Santa,

1311
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: did you remember this, Danielle about this? Should have remembered that, Santa,

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01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so funny. No, and it's it's

1313
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: absolutely hilarious. Morgan eventually opens the back door. Mr Feenie

1314
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,799
Speaker 1: is there, addressed to Santa Claus. She yells, look everyone,

1315
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: he's alive. Poenie is a very stiff Santa Claus. He's

1316
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: actually just Mr Feenie Bury Foster in a red suit

1317
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: writes itself, it's so good, so good. Once whoever the

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01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: whichever writer came up with the idea, and then well

1319
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: have Phoenie come and posted. Santa is just yes, like

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01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: that's a funny scene. There's a ten different ways to

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01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,959
Speaker 1: write it doesn't matter. All of them are funny, exactly

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: and by the way, this entire scene would have been

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: just as funny even if nobody spoke, if Bill just people,

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01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: nobody even needed to say anything. The scene was just

1325
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: so great. But watching also Betsy laugh at him like

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01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: it's it's just such a like I felt like I

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01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: was wrapped in a warm hug watching this family interact

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01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: with Mr Feinie in this way. It was also very nice.

1329
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, we've only had little glimpses of feeling like

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01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: Mr Feinie is a member of their family, you know,

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01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: like a part of like a part of the Matthews story,

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01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: like when he came over to borrow he wanted some

1333
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: Halloween candy in that episode where he was like, oh,

1334
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: you know, these aren't and it was like, oh, they're

1335
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: they're they're friendly. He could go and talk to them

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01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: as neighbors and kind of um and so having him

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01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: agreed to participate in this made it feel like they're

1338
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: a close they're close, which I really liked. Um the

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01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: father the family gathers around for a picture and Morgan

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: asks why Sannah looks like Mr Feenie, And then we

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01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: go into the credits and we're in the Matthews living room.

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01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: We we we never we should have really touched upon

1343
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: this with the Grandma as a rolling stone, the freeze

1344
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: frame ending, and with the grammall as a rolling stone.

1345
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: Not only get at freeze frame on the high five.

1346
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: Then Kukar Racha played like this is the most dated transition,

1347
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm assuming TV shows, Daniel, you're still directing kids

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: shows right now, so they don't do the freeze frame ending.

1349
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: It's like there's there's a couple of classic endings right

1350
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: like everybody dancing it's always like or the like everybody

1351
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: laughing everybody or the freeze frame. Oh my god. That's

1352
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: why one of the one of the greatest shows of

1353
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: all time was from the Files of Police Squad that

1354
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 1: they ended up making. All of the Police Squad movies

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01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: from would always end where the actors would freeze, but

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01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: they were they were just so they were like they'd

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: be pouring coffee and then the coffee would like spill

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01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: over their hands and they're trying to hold that as

1359
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: the cup is falling out and they're just trying to

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01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: hold the thing. Was great, it was. That's funny. Also,

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01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: I have to say Alex's reaction to the opening credits

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01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. She

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01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: was like, what is happening? No, no, no, no, no,

1364
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: a band aid what is And like I kept trying

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01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: to shush her because it's like India's favorite thing. He

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: loves the opening credits. He never lets me skip them.

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: But Alex could not believe. She's like, was this real?

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: Is this? Is this really what the opening credits from? Like? Yes,

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01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 1: but she she it struck her is the most dated, ridiculous,

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01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: over the top thig. I was like, yeah, I'm I'm

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01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: with you, Alex, and I know Danielle's with you about

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01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: the song. Yeah, Andy loves it. So what do we know?

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01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: What do we know? So funny? I know, and you

1374
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: know we get sent things on Instagram all the time

1375
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: of um children, even babies reacting to the theme song.

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01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: So we yeah, we just recently had when somebody sent

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01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: me and I think I think I re instagrammed it.

1378
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: It was um a mom saying watch his reaction, and

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,560
Speaker 1: she's just videotaping her babysitting in his high chair and

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01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: then this the show comes on in the back and

1381
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: the baby goes and turns around and then cannot take

1382
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: his eyes off the TV. He's like the shows on

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: So it definitely it has its it has its hooks

1384
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: and people. Uh So, in this case, the freeze frame

1385
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: ending at least does make a little bit of sense

1386
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: because they were taking a picture, So at least I

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01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: agree with you. It is a big trope and not

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01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: the best transition, but at least in this case, I

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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: thought it was cute that you get the opportunity to

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01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: see what their picture turned out like. Um and so

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01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: in the tag, Amy and Morgan are singing jingle bells

1392
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: at the piano, but Morgan is singing the jingle bells

1393
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: Batman smells version a different version by the way. Yeah,

1394
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: the commissioner breaks his leg. I'd never heard that version before.

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: I have heard it, but it's not coming. I didn't

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01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: hear that line happened. I was like, oh, I guess

1397
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: I just never knew the full song, but I thought

1398
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: it was and joker got away. The joker got away. Yeah,

1399
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's always how i'd heard it.

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: I've never heard then the commissioner broke his leg. It's like,

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: what I bring Commissioner Gordon into this. I'm sorry, that's

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01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: a whole other thing. Okay, who knows what that one

1403
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: was from, but she says that Corey taught her that

1404
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: and uh then Betsy sings the real version of it.

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01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: Um and so the big lesson of this episode is

1406
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: that Christmas is not all about gifts and it's about

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: real friendships. Also, nobody ever let Santa die is apparently

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: what this is about. So a really fun episode. I

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01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: love it. UM. Next week we are going to be

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01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: sitting down and talking with Angela herself, Miss Trina McGee.

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01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: I can't wait. We are recapping season one, episode eleven,

1412
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: the Father Son Game. Uh. It's the first UM script

1413
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,879
Speaker 1: and only script of Boy Meets World, written by Bill Lawrence,

1414
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: who is the executive producer and creator of Scrubs and

1415
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: Ted Lasso, so and Lawrence millions done everything, but also

1416
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: one of the people in the running for potentially being

1417
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: the person who named to Panga Pangas to Panga Lawrence.

1418
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: Everybody claims that they named every four or five people.

1419
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: Right now, we have at least four UM and I

1420
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: think one of those people I have I have put

1421
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: on myself as being I thought Susan is stell Jansen

1422
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: told me that she named to Panga. But maybe maybe

1423
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: my memory of that is incorrect and I shouldn't put

1424
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: that on her. But I think we have Michael claiming

1425
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: he named her, Jeff Sherman claims he named to Panga.

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01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: Bill Lawrence claims he named to Panga and Susan and Susan.

1427
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, I am very excited for next week. I

1428
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: know we all are. We're really excited to have Trina

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01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: here and it's going to be a great episode. So

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01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: make sure you stick with us. You can follow us

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01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: on pod Meats World Show on Instagram, continue to send

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01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: us your emails at pod Meats World Show at gmail

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: dot com. And uh yeah, thanks for being here with us, guys.

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01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: This has been really fun. We're just plugging away. We're

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01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: now almost halfway through the season. Wow. Yeah, I writer, Yeah,

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: I was just praising my hand to be the one

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: to say love you all. Pod dismissed. But I think

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01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: think it's your turn, writer. I think I mean the

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01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: way you guys ended the last one was so good

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01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: and so no I was. It was so good and

1441
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: Will got to take it. So this one's your. We

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01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: love you all, pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is an

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Speaker 1: I heart podcast produced and hosted by Daniel Fishel Wilfred

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01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: L and Ryder Strong executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman,

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor,

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01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: Tara sued Bosch, producer Lorraine Vierez, Engineering boy meets World

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01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle

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01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram at pod Meats

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