1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Doug Gotleb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: station for the Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: by searching apps car Booming Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: I hope you're having a great day. Doug Gottlieb Show 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: broadcast live every single day, and you can also check 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: out the podcast Versus the Show wherever you download podcast. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: We got one week of NFL games in the books, 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: and it culminated with I thought it was a good watch, 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: interesting game last night Soldier Field, where yeah, the inner 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: Green Bay resident in me wants to say, well, the 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: Bears still suck, right, But there's a lot more to 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: it than that. I think. Here's the part that here's 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: the part that I know as a coach, I believed 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: I knew beforehand, but it became even more apparent as 19 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: time went on, and it was apparent watching Ben Johnson, 20 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: who I thought had his team ready, had him seem prepped, 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: you know, so like part of the big part of coaching, 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: you know, is one you gotta have not just the 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: right system, but the right talent for the right system. 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes that takes a little bit of time. Two you 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: gotta have a great plan, and three you gotta have 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: the players prepared prepared for what the other team plans, 27 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: so they can counterattack or counter whatever they're trying to 28 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: do right count whatever they try to do. So I 29 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: thought Ben Johnson's team was well prepared. I thought they 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: were pretty focused. Defense got him a tuddy offense, could 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: you know, solid first drive with a couple of plays 32 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: where they broke off of script, and despite the fact 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: their offense had gone meh for basically two and a 34 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: half other quarters, they were still in pole position, prime 35 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: position to win a game. That's when the Vikings woke up. 36 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: They're essentially rookie quarterback JJ McCarthy started gaining confidence and 37 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: make plays. And that's also when you know Flores kind 38 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: of cranked up the pressure on the Bears, and the 39 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: Bears sort of wilted under that pressure. They did score 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: a touchdown late, did have a chance to either kick 41 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: an on sidekick or get the football back if they 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: kicked it out of bounds. They did neither, and the 43 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: game expires and they lose the game without much of 44 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: an opportunity to get the football back with just one 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: timeout and the two minute warning having expired on the kickoff. 46 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: But people ask all the time, like, what did you learn? Well, 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if I learned it or I already 48 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: knew it. But the hardest thing to do in coaching 49 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: is teaching a team how to win, right, Because you 50 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: can take them to the water, but man, you just 51 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: can't make them drink. You can open up their mouth, 52 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: pour it in, close their mouth, but they don't always 53 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: swallow and actually drink that water. And when you come 54 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: into organizations which are used to winning and what's used 55 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: to losing those games, it's really hard to turn around 56 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: that the narrative. That's honestly what Jim Harbaugh does best, right, 57 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 2: It's what Jim Harbaugh does best. He finds a way 58 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: to create a culture where winning is expected, and even 59 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: with guys that haven't necessarily done it yet or done 60 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: it before, they do it at the NFL level. And 61 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm watching last night with the Bears, and from I 62 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: mean Caleb Williams, you can't have a grounding penalty there 63 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: if you don't have a grounding penalty, if you just 64 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: throw the ball away, or even if you eat the 65 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: football going down, you're in better field goal range. You 66 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: don't miss the field goal, and the Vikings never come 67 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: back and take a lead. So, yeah, Caleb Williams missed 68 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: some throws. Caleb Williams looked overwhelmed against against some of 69 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: the pressure late Caleb Williams does It does look like 70 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: it takes a while to load up and get rid 71 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: of that football. And he's not exceptionally big. There's some 72 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: things he does really really well. But Caleb Williams is 73 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: he's more the symptom than the problem, and the symptom 74 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: is it's a symptom of the greater thing, which is 75 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: the Bears don't know how to win those games and 76 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: the Vikings do. And you could even say that's what 77 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy does, right, I wouldn't combined his college record, 78 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 2: his pro record when he's at Michigan. Really well, coached, 79 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: great team, win a national championship, all that's good. But 80 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: I mean it's a different sport at different level. But 81 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: there is a part to me that says, you know, 82 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: there's a reason this guy is thirty eight and one 83 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: is now thirty nine. Starts winners win. They just find 84 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: a way. And last night the Vikings found away. Last 85 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: night the Bears did not. That's really as kind of 86 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: simple as as you can put it. Last night the 87 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: Vikings found away and the Bears did not. And because 88 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: of it, you know, we're left with Okay, So is 89 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy out good when he was bad the first 90 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: three quarters? Is call Williams bad when he was good 91 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: in the first quarter. I don't know. But my takeaway 92 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: from last night is that Ben Johnson, his first game 93 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: as the head coach, had his team mentally and physically 94 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: prepared and in the right head space. And they play 95 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: and they play really well in the first half in 96 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: some stretches, especially the defensive side the football. But it 97 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: fell apart late because he has not yet figured out 98 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: or they have not yet been able to understand how 99 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: they need to learn how to win, because they do not. 100 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: They do not. This is JJ McCarthy, who's the quarterback 101 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: obviously the Vikings talking about adversity that we. 102 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: Gotta believe, you know, that's one thing that we can 103 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: do is control the controllables in our belief. 104 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: And you know, going out there and executing. 105 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: That next play. And you know, it's as simple as that. 106 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 4: We got a great group and everyone was on the 107 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: same page with that. 108 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: Gotta believe, you know, you gotta find guys that buy in. 109 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: You gotta find the right fit. Here's Kevin O'Connell, head 110 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: coach of the Viking. He's talking about JJ's JJ's night. 111 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: It's not always going to be pretty when you're trying 112 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: to bring along a young quarterback. You just got to 113 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: keep playing and you got to allow, you know, him 114 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: to grow. There was a lot of just things we 115 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: can improve on and we will be great to be 116 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: home for a couple of weeks. All in all, I'm 117 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: very proud of our team, very proud of our staff, 118 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: and just that figured out in this and find a 119 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: way is something that will be a redeeming quality as 120 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: we continue to press on. Where JJ McCarthy. For him 121 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: to make some of the plays he did, I told 122 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: him at halftime, you are going to bring us back 123 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: to win this game, and the look in his eye 124 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: was fantastic. And the best thing is just a belief 125 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: I felt from the team, the unit, and ultimately that 126 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: doesn't get done without him In the second half, two 127 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: passing touchdowns and then the critical rushing touchdown. 128 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: Here's Calla Williams summoning up their loss. 129 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: That mentality is something that we have, something that we 130 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 5: you know, that we preach, and that didn't happen today. 131 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: And and I'm not it's not. 132 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: A play call thing. 133 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 5: It's not anything like that. It's just being able to 134 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: go out there and execute the players that are called 135 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 5: and be able to you know, execut him at a 136 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 5: high level. And that's something that that we take pride in. 137 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 5: And you know, today that didn't happen, and we're going 138 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 5: to get back to it. 139 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: Gonna gonna get back to it. Got to get back 140 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: to trying to win, trying to win games. Yeah, well, 141 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: I just think Kevin O'Connell's outright belief and the ability 142 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: to get guys to believe, and you have a team 143 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: that has won some Here's Peyton and Eli on the 144 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: Manning cast talking about why you kick off out of 145 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: bounds before the two minute warning. But by the way, 146 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: I thought everybody knew. 147 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: You're thinking that maybe Chicio should just kick the ball 148 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: out of bounds, kick it out of bounds, fort and 149 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: take the penalty, take the penalty. 150 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: It's on the forty. You always love that. 151 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: And now you still got the time time out and 152 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: the two minute over. 153 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 6: You say, yeah, you get to take any time, get 154 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 6: a time out out of bound, but you get to 155 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 6: stop in the inZone. 156 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: Right you get the ball with a minute and ten 157 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: seconds left. Yes, yes, it was I think actually fifty 158 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: eight seconds what they would go. Here's Ben Johnson talking 159 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: about Cairo Santos kicking it into the end zone instead 160 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: of kicking it out of bounds. The intent was for 161 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: the ball to go out of the end zone, was there? 162 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: Do you guys consider? Yeah? It did. 163 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 5: We felt like if we'd have kicked it out of 164 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 5: the end zone and gotten the three and out that 165 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 5: we got, we would get the ball back with around 166 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 5: fifty six seconds. 167 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. So I again the 168 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: question is the question you have to ask is what 169 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: specifically did he say to Cayro Santos. Did he say 170 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: kick it out of bounds or kick it to where 171 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: they can't return it. It has to be a touchback 172 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: right again, Like you sit there and go like, wait, 173 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: Cayro Santos is not a rookie kicker. I understand kicking 174 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: rules had changed, and obviously Cayro Santos either didn't know. 175 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: I mean he can kick it the ball out about 176 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: it and if you can't kick it out of the 177 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: back of the end zone, then kick it out of 178 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 2: the sideline where they get the forty. But those are 179 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: just the little things. Does it mean the Bears would 180 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: have won the game? 181 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 6: No? 182 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: Does it mean they absolute would have gotten the ball back? No, 183 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: but you in order to put yourself in position where 184 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: you get every opportunity to win, you have to kick 185 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: the ball at a bouncer, and they did not. 186 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 187 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 7: Gottlieb Show week days ago three pm Eastern noon Pacific 188 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 7: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 189 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:11,479 Speaker 2: App, It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. 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Here's Mike McDaniel 205 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: summing up the week one lost to the Colts. 206 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 9: First four weeks is generally wild because people are figuring 207 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 9: out who they are. You know, on paper, who you 208 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 9: think you're going to be, but in actual execution who 209 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 9: you are, and then molding themselves to that. And you 210 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 9: have to continue to get better, you know, I would 211 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 9: say the good news and the positive is I don't 212 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 9: I don't see how it could be worse. 213 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it it couldn't be worse. It was really bad. Uh. 214 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: Then former Jets head coach Rex Ryan had this to 215 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: say on ESPN about Mike McDaniel. 216 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 6: What the hell is he talking about it? You know, 217 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 6: I maybe he's on a different level MC genius guy. 218 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 6: Whatever the hell he is nerve boy. But anyway, their 219 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 6: teams their their team has no respect for the coach. 220 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: Uh Again, I don't know what it's in regards to 221 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously they've had a lot of trouble with 222 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, they had trouble with some of those other 223 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: guys that they got rid of. I'm sure Jalen Ramsey 224 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: was a bit of a handful for him. And what's 225 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: interesting about the Mike McDaniel thing is he may he 226 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: may be called nerd boy, but the whole thing was 227 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: he's got this swag. You know, he's got this coolness 228 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: to him, cool gear, cool glasses, cool approach, cool vibe whatever. 229 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: Players at that stage in their career, once they're professionals, 230 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: especially the older ones, they're attracted to smart. They're smart, 231 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: attracted to prepared. They're attracted to somebody with a plan 232 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: for how to win. It might not even be the 233 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: style or the city they want to live in, but 234 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: they want to win because winning makes everything better. And 235 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,239 Speaker 2: right now, he just does not have a great reputation 236 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: in the league. He said, very good play color or 237 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: smart dude. One of the guys like, but do they 238 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: respect him? And here's all one do they fear him anyway? 239 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: I think the answer is now, Nerd, boy, did you 240 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: see what happened in the Missouri Kansas game? 241 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: Or there was just some confusion over a a point 242 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: at up extra point and and then the penalties that 243 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: were called and a kickoff? I didn't I didn't get 244 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 4: a chance to see it. But was that the was 245 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: that the point? 246 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? That there was actually points taken off the board? 247 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: Uh? 248 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: On a on a big catch and it was it 249 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: was kind of painfully obvious. I thought, I don't know, 250 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: so that I've dealt with it. I you know, Uh, 251 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 2: the fishing is hard because what do you do when 252 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: you complain? Right, There's not a lot you can do. 253 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: You just sound like a like a complainer, even when 254 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: your complaints are completely legitimized based upon the video. 255 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 4: Nothing was ever worse than the Central Michigan in your 256 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: alma mater, Oklahoma State, though, when they allowed Central Michigan 257 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: to have the untimed down on the hailberry when the 258 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: game should have ended on fourth down. Nothing will ever 259 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 4: be worse than that. 260 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: Nope, Nope, that one was bad one, no question, bad one, 261 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: no question. Let's get you to John Middlecoff he's gonna 262 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: join us momentarily. You know, we had a topic here 263 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: for the second hour of the show on a new 264 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: segment Jay Stu has invented, right It's called Tuesday Morning Quarterback, 265 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: and I think the idea of it, Dan is topics 266 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: that we didn't get to and that most everybody else 267 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: didn't get to in the NFL, which I love because 268 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: I do feel like we kind of talk about the 269 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,359 Speaker 2: same stuff and it's a huge league out there. 270 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: I think that the headlines were obviously the Eagles and 271 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: Cowboys on Thursday night in that even Charges Chiefs kind 272 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: of got lost in the shuffle because it was on 273 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: a Friday night, and then that game was so great 274 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: on Sunday night that some of the other games ended 275 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: up kind of losing their their luster, if you will. 276 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: But that's what Tuesday Morning Quarterback is going to bring us, 277 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: by the way, Doug, Yeah, today's show it brought to 278 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: you by Express Employment. 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How 297 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: social media just some massively overreaction. Maybe they didn't overreact. 298 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: He looked tight, he didn't look comfortable. His start to 299 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: the game was the opposite of Caleb Williams and call Billiams. 300 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: Wasn't I know? Statistically he was perfect, but an execution 301 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't perfect. But still they marched down the 302 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: field and get a touchdown. JJ McCarthy looked tight the 303 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: entire first half, and he should. It's his first start, 304 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: he didn't play last year, and he's taken on the 305 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: Chicago Bears in Soldier Field. I think any of us, 306 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: even if you played at Michigan one at Ohio State, 307 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: won a national championship, all the things JJ McCarthy has done, 308 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: it's very reasonable to be nervous in your pro debut, 309 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: but it's the what do you do on can you 310 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: stay close? And once you settle in, can you make 311 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: some can you make some plays? Let's get to John 312 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: mit o'caw three announced the podcast. Of course you hear 313 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 2: him on the Ball podcast Network. John, let's start with 314 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. What's your reaction to his fourth quarter turnaround 315 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: from it otherwise very rookie like performance. 316 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I was thinking about it this morning. 317 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 8: I think sometimes we overrate and you know you're a 318 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 8: college coach now, that impact it has on young people. 319 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 8: You know, most human beings like Navy seals, aren't born 320 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 8: that way. You know that there's your Your mental toughness 321 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 8: is grown early in life and pushed by coaches or 322 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 8: bosses or leaders or whatever and you know, I think 323 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 8: one reason that a lot of people really liked him. Obviously, 324 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 8: you know, he's got a good arm, he can move, 325 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 8: but he got coached pretty hard by Jim Harbaugh and 326 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 8: in that organization. I think that really showed last night, 327 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 8: the mental toughness, because I don't think there was a 328 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 8: human including Kevin O'Connell, that wasn't thinking at halftime like 329 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 8: we might because their teams so good, you know, and 330 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 8: I I think sometimes when you get drafted, we say 331 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 8: this all the time, like it's way better to go 332 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 8: to a good team, well in theory, but they also 333 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 8: will get rid of you in a moment's notice if 334 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 8: you're not good. Anthony Richardson benched immediately, Trey lamp thrown 335 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 8: to the you know, Wolves before he even played like 336 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 8: four or five games, Like you don't get a long 337 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 8: landing spot like let's say Bryce Young. So it was 338 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 8: going to be intense on this kid because the team 339 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 8: has such high expect and then one fourteen game last 340 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 8: year and you could argue they're improved this year, you know, 341 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 8: in terms of their roster. So mental toughness, man, I 342 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 8: was blown away because he wasn't really asked the dude 343 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 8: play like that with the way Kevin O'Connell plays in college. 344 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 8: So they werelied on his arm. They were obviously down 345 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 8: and it was got You gotta give a guy a 346 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 8: lot of credit you do. 347 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. You listened to Fox 348 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: Supports Radio. That's the voice of Job and o'coffee has 349 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 2: a three and out football based podcast, The Comeback by 350 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 2: the Bills. How do you view the Ravens that forgiving 351 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: up they come back? 352 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 8: Well, I would say before the last five minutes of 353 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 8: the game, when they were up like forty to twenty five, 354 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 8: they were clearly the best team in the league. I mean, 355 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 8: you could argue over the last four or five years, 356 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 8: beside the Chiefs, no team's been more consistent winning games, 357 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 8: star quarterback. You had Henry his Hall of Fame running back. 358 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 8: Their defense just cycled through new high level players. Listen, 359 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 8: if you told me there was the seven game series, 360 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 8: this was basketball, I would give the Bills no chance. 361 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 8: But the reality is is football. These are one game situations. 362 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 8: I didn't think the Bills were the better team in 363 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 8: the playoffs. They didn't think the Bills were the better 364 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 8: team that night. But when you got Josh Allen. It's 365 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 8: you know, it's like having like nikolea Jokich or Steph 366 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 8: Curry in your team. You're just never out of it, 367 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 8: regardless who's playing around him. So he can put on 368 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 8: a superman cape. I still think the Bills look small 369 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 8: on the same field as the Ravens now. Granted they 370 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 8: had dB you know, injuries, but I think they're linebackers 371 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 8: relative to some of the other teams in the league. 372 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 8: Just they just feels small. But Josh does not. And 373 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 8: guy's a monster. 374 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: He is a monster. Still got the show here on 375 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: Fox Sports here that that's Shall metalcoll three nowns the 376 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: podcast Forborough College and NFL Scout, and he's joined us. Uh, 377 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: how did Rogers look? I've just seen the highlights Rollingders right, 378 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: look good. Others I've said, I've heard and read where 379 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: he looked like an old man. But what do you think? 380 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of similarities to 381 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 8: last year. I mean, his arm's gonna be good. You 382 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 8: and I have talked about this forever. You know, if 383 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 8: Larry Bird's back still works, he can shoot a three 384 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 8: point shot. You know, it's like his arm's never going 385 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 8: to be the problem. But he doesn't move around anymore. 386 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 8: He's not Peyton Manning or Tom Brady at forty years old, 387 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 8: where they were not moving anywhere. You know, he can 388 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 8: still subtly get to the like outside the tackle box, 389 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 8: but his days of being a quote unquote playmaker, I 390 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 8: mean are just done. So they're gonna be very dependent. 391 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 8: They couldn't really run the ball. I like Caleb Johnson 392 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 8: and Iowa running back coming out of college, but that 393 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 8: has not been that's been a disaster. So Jalen Warren 394 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 8: is not you know, Le'Veon Bell or Jerome vettis. I 395 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 8: do think they got to think about you know, we'll 396 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 8: see if the Saints fall apart or one of these 397 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 8: teams like trading for a legit running back because they've 398 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 8: invested a lot. I mean, the defense was atrocious in theory, 399 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 8: you would think they would improve a lot. So I 400 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 8: wouldn't write their defense off yet. But I think offensively 401 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 8: they can't get in positions where they got to play 402 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 8: like let's say the Cincinnati Bengals, because I don't think 403 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 8: you'd be comfortable with Rogers thrown at forty forty five 404 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 8: plus times a game as the season goes on it 405 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 8: gets colder, especially in that division. So to me, the 406 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 8: running game, I mean that's a huge part when you 407 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 8: think the Pittsburgh Steelers historically like running the football, and 408 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 8: for whatever reason they just can't find like a belkout 409 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 8: running back. 410 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: No, they cannot where the Packers is that good or 411 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: the Lion is that bad? 412 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously on Sunday, the Packers were that good the 413 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 8: Lions were that bad. I do think that that was 414 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 8: a huge game for the Packers, right, you just get Micah. 415 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 8: You were terrible last year in the division. You lost 416 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 8: the Lions multiple times. Obviously they beat him in Green 417 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 8: Bay if I remember correctly that. I think that might 418 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 8: have been a time when some of the Lions were 419 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 8: starting to get injured. Timeline could be a little off there, 420 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 8: but that was a big, big game for Green Bay. 421 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 8: Like this week, I like the Lions a lot at 422 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 8: home against the Bears, Like that's a touch spot for 423 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 8: Caleb and Ben Johnson to try to get their first wins. 424 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 8: So I think that Dan Campbell now their days of 425 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 8: being a fifteen win team new coordinators probably over. But 426 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 8: are they gonna go from like fifteen wins to seven? 427 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 8: I'd be pretty shocked. I still think nine to ten wins, 428 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 8: they're gonna be competing for a wildcard spot. But I 429 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 8: think it's pretty clear. You know, the Ravens, the Bills, 430 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 8: you know, I sa Herbert looked pretty darn good. We'll 431 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 8: see if they are good enough as a total team 432 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 8: to be at that highest level. But the Packers and 433 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 8: the Eagles, I mean, are kind of a step above 434 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 8: everyone right now. 435 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: They're that's that's fast. Well, I mean, like, look, Eagles. 436 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: I thought the Cowboys looked goods to night. That might've 437 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 2: been my biggest surprise of the weekend was how the Cowboys, 438 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: we had no expectations of, probably should have won or 439 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: at least pushed that game close to overtime. 440 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 8: Well, I think it'deople more critical of the Cowboys, like 441 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 8: I can't you can't pay Dak sixty million. But no one, actually, 442 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 8: I mean no one on the brain thinks the Dak 443 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 8: like relatives like Caleb Williams, like Dak is a top 444 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 8: tennish twelve ish quarterback. And when CD's going, you have Pickens. 445 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 8: The problem is this is the Cowboys thing, right Listen, 446 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 8: drops happened. You know, Torellos didn't have great hands. Not 447 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 8: that everyone catches everything, obviously, CD it feels like catches 448 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 8: that ninety percent of the time. But the George Pickens 449 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 8: thing is he was available for red and he gets 450 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 8: an awful penalty. There's obviously some clips to him not blocking, 451 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 8: so it's like there's a reason this exceptional talent is 452 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 8: available and he made some plays in that game. But offensively, like, 453 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 8: they definitely got some pieces. I mean, they've invested a 454 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 8: ton in the offensive line. Ferguson's a good tight end. 455 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 8: They extended like offensively, they this is not gonna be 456 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 8: the Miami Dolphon is just going to be. Defensively, can 457 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 8: they hold up? I also think we got to be 458 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 8: careful to these divisional games. You know, Dak and the 459 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 8: Cowboys players aren't intimidated by the Eagles, right, the Chargers 460 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 8: was a fat like they hadn't beat the Chiefs like 461 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 8: seven straight times. They're not intimidated by the Chiefs. So, 462 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 8: and those teams are talented teams. I'm even talking like 463 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 8: the bottom feeders. You're just comfortable with playing your divisional 464 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 8: opponent because you see them so often. So I think 465 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 8: sometimes we can overreact a little bit to some of 466 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 8: the divisional matchups and the outcomes. 467 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: I got a show here on Fox Sports Radio. John 468 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: Middlcoff is our guest. Hey, John, I'm just wondering. You know, 469 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: I was really disappointed by New England and like, I 470 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: get that you got Geno, He's done it forever. I 471 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: love Pete Carroll going in against a club that he 472 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: used to coach, But what the heck happened to Drake 473 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: made this was? Were my expectations too high? Is too 474 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: soon the season? Because they weren't really in that game ever? 475 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 8: No, I thought I thought Drake May was extremely disappointing. 476 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 8: And I know his stats like look better than Caleb, 477 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 8: but I thought it was pretty similar, like did not 478 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 8: pass the itest. And I'm guilty of this. I just assume, 479 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 8: you know, when he's not a head coach, he's making 480 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 8: your offensive coordinator, Josh mc McDaniel is a fantastic offensive coordinator. 481 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 8: But a lot of people push back and go, well, yeah, 482 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 8: when he's got Tom Brady removed Tom Brady, we'll see 483 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 8: and it's like, you know, maybe his stuff is too 484 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 8: complicated for quarterbacks. You know, I don't know. I mean, 485 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 8: it's easy to make money and invest when you've got 486 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 8: Warren Buffett giving you advice. When that guy's gone, it's 487 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 8: just me and you, it's a little more difficult. So 488 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 8: it's like it's Josh, you know one, you know, one 489 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 8: hit wonder. He can work with Tom and no one else. 490 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 8: Now they don't have the most talent. But man, now, 491 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 8: in fairness to defend the Rapers, you go, well, the 492 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 8: Raiders have the best player on the field Max Crosby. 493 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 8: They got the second best player in the field in 494 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 8: brock Bowers. Geno Smith is just objectively today a much 495 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 8: better player than straight May. We all like and respect Rabel, 496 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 8: but Pize accomplished way more so. I think maybe we underestimated, 497 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 8: especially in that matchup the Raiders. But you know, listen, 498 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 8: I like gambling on West Coast teams that go east 499 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 8: taking the East Coast team, like the Rams playing the Titans, 500 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 8: like those long trips, those early ten am kickoffs not 501 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 8: just hard on the body, but you know, whether it's 502 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 8: early in the years that humidity in some of these 503 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 8: places or late in the year of the cold, that 504 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 8: should be a huge advantage for the home team on 505 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 8: the East Coast. So that's you know, and part of 506 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 8: Rabel Steel is like mental toughness, and they just looked. 507 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 8: I mean, let's be real that they look like the 508 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 8: girod male Patriots. 509 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they really really did Miami. Now, I had 510 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: heard last year that there was they the issues they 511 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: had with kind of a select number of guys. Some 512 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: of them are gone. I think Tyreek Hill is among 513 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: that select number of guys who not really bought into team. 514 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: McDaniel's like one of the guys that, you know, offensive genius. 515 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: I think we can go around and around and talk 516 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: about his team and what they don't have. But isn't 517 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: it just Tua. Isn't you has to have rhythm, has 518 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: to get out of it quickly. If not, he's relatively ineffective. 519 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: And that's really what's at work. There is there something 520 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: else I'm missing with the Dolphins. 521 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's truth to that now. And Toua 522 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 8: was terrible. Like if he's gonna play bad or not 523 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 8: play that, they got no shot, right, They're not well 524 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 8: built enough teams. I also think in football, right, your 525 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 8: personality who you are, the longer you're out of place 526 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 8: really comes out right. Even Kevin O'Connell like he's a creative, 527 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 8: he's a quarterback, but having Flores them now for a 528 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 8: couple of years adds the toughness to their team. You 529 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 8: watch Miami, you go, well, this guy's a creative, intellectual 530 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 8: football genius, right Mike mcganne, And people with a fortunite 531 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 8: will say that, like he's really really right, but he's 532 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 8: not a tough guy and he can't mistake being Dan 533 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 8: Campbell or the Harmball Brothers. Like your personality, your personality, 534 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 8: but it's like their defensive coordinator. They hired fans Yo 535 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 8: and then he leaves. He's like, I'm out of here. 536 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 8: So to me, they got like a culture. They don't 537 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 8: respect Mike as a tough guy, really as a leader, 538 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 8: because when you start coming in late now, you could 539 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 8: just say it was Jalen Ramsey, you know, the two 540 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 8: of things. Classic He rips everybody and they're like, I'll 541 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 8: come back, and it's like, that's not what a well 542 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 8: run operation. He's not, at this point in time good 543 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 8: enough and important enough to not just like they should 544 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 8: have punted this offseason. I honestly think they're kind of 545 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 8: stuck unless someone can get him for nothing. I think 546 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 8: his value is extreme. He feels like your classic older 547 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 8: NBA player. It's really really famous. But like if you 548 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 8: just ask around the league, Yeah, I wouldn't want that 549 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 8: guy in my team. And I think that's kind of 550 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 8: the vibe he's got going on right now. Yeah, this 551 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 8: isn't some This isn't something like von Miller, where other 552 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 8: teams wanted him when he was in Denver even though 553 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 8: he was old. I think he's kind of untouchable for 554 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 8: a lot of the because the good teams, the good 555 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 8: teams are the only ones interested, right, and I think 556 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 8: like eighty percent of them would be out before it even. 557 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: Came up, right, Well, mean now you have the more 558 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: allegations of domestic abuse. 559 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, and I was told before because it comes up 560 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 8: a lot. They again thinks can change injuries, Like the 561 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 8: Chiefs would never go back down that road. And we 562 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 8: know Andy, he's pretty open minded. Like, this isn't some 563 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 8: like stiff guy in his beliefs. 564 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: I get it. Okay, what about the Chiefs though, now 565 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy separated shoulder, you don't have that. That's your 566 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: top two wide receivers and they just there wasn't a 567 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: lot of juice there. Can that be fixed? 568 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 8: Well, I mean they've used now the last couple of years, 569 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 8: their first round pick and their second round pick on 570 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 8: two wide receivers. But even if the guys don't become 571 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 8: Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase, if you get two number 572 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 8: twos with Right and Worthy, they would look dramatically different. Well, 573 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 8: the Rice is a moron, get suspended right for the 574 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 8: Lamborghini incident, and then you get Worthy. He gets hurt 575 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 8: on the third play of the game, and the elephant 576 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 8: in the room is And it's not like the Chiefs 577 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 8: don't know this, and even Travis knows it. He's not 578 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 8: the same player. So it's like five years ago, Travis 579 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 8: would have been, Okay, I'll bail us out. I'll get 580 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 8: us twelve catches. I mean those remember some of those, 581 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 8: Like I think it was a Thursday night game when 582 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 8: Travis and Tyreek just went nuts against the Chargers and 583 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 8: brought him back on this crazy comeback, and Travis was, 584 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 8: you know, like the Tyreek version of a tight end. 585 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 8: He was unstoppable, he was so fast. Well, Derwin James, 586 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 8: I mean just dominated. I mean even the Travis touchdowns 587 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 8: that wasn't Travis, that was Andy Reid, like the fake 588 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 8: block getting them out and he's wide open walks in 589 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 8: the zone, but just when he just got to go 590 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 8: one on one with a good player, he can't really 591 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 8: get open. So you're missing your first round pick, you're 592 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 8: missing the second round pick. Two wide receivers who are 593 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 8: who's just good and unique players, and then Travis's He's 594 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 8: just no longer an elite player. It's just hard to 595 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 8: overcome with a coach and a quarterback that, let's face it, 596 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 8: want to call pass this. You know this kind of 597 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 8: a problem. 598 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: Crazy how quickly it happens. Min Coffee the best Man. 599 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: Look forward to the next podcast. Thanks for our guest. 600 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 601 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 7: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 602 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. Check out our brand new 603 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: YouTube channel, Hello YouTube. Go to YouTube dot com slash 604 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: at Doug Gottlieb Show. If you're already within YouTube, just 605 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: search Doug Gotlieb Show. 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Let's the other guy you can hear 610 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: see when you watch our YouTube channel is Dan Byer. 611 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: Then let's get to a game, shall we. 612 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 7: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 613 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 4: And while we're not streaming video, Doug we are, you 614 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: can always stream us on the iHeartRadio app. Listening to 615 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: the audio and then the highlights you can see right 616 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: now on YouTube, but streaming, Yes, the future here at 617 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. If that's a tease the game today 618 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 4: is that's a tease? Yes? 619 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 2: If I don't hold on, do you know something I 620 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: don't know? 621 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: I don't know? Maybe maybe on. 622 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, 623 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: hold on, hold on. 624 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: Doug ranked the three best teams in the nf foul 625 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 4: after Week one of the twenty twenty five season. 626 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: We all know who's number one, right. 627 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 4: The Packers, all the Chargers, Packers wasn't sure what. 628 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: Let's go Chargers three, Packers two and yeah, I'll still go. 629 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: Eagles one. You know, didn't have Jaalen Carter won the game. 630 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: They weren't great, but they find a way to win. 631 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: So they're defending champs. They want to know Chargers, Packers 632 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: and then the number one team right now, in the 633 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: NFL is the pilled up Eagles. 634 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: Somebody is sitting at home right now. They missed the 635 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: Bears Vikings game and they're rewatching it on NFL Network 636 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 4: and says man Caleb Williams has just completed his first 637 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 4: ten passes. He's ten of eleven. This is a different 638 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: this is a different guy. Different guy, different guy. Then 639 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 4: just wait, yeah, just wait. They're also say J. J. 640 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: McCarthy is not the answer. Just wait. Doug ranked the 641 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: top three players that stood out in Week one. Oh 642 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 4: good or bad? 643 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 2: Ooh oh? Justin Herbert at three. Let's see here. I'm 644 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 2: gonna give him credit. I thought Justin Field's look good. Yeah, 645 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: Justin Field's a lot better, played a lot better than 646 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: I I think I've ever seen him play in the 647 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: NFL with Justin Fields. And then I think too, I mean, 648 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: Tua's performance was bad, and I think it's exposed him. 649 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: And it's funny. What John Mittlkoff said last segment is 650 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: what I said last year. I think they're stuck. They're 651 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: latched down to a quarterback that is just people have 652 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: figured out and isn't good enough, you know, and you 653 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 2: can say, well, like that system is not quarterback depending Like, yeah, 654 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: it's specifically dependent upon a guy who has to get 655 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: rid of it quick, make that first second read, and 656 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: they're taking that away and he does not have the 657 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: ability of improvise. 658 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 4: All right, Doug, rink your top three teams in college football? 659 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 4: Now the ap pole was the same as it was 660 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 4: from the week prior. But who are your top three 661 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 4: teams in the college game. 662 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: I'll go LSU at three, Georgia at two, in Ohio 663 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: State at one. 664 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 4: All right, moving on to the next question. 665 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: Really impressive. It is not an anti organ because they 666 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: hit the crap out of my alma mater. Who wee impressive? 667 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 4: Sixty nine to three. 668 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: That was bad. 669 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: On a side note, because of Sam's Christmas gifts that 670 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 4: I got him last year? Did you move the Syhawk 671 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 4: Trophy at all? 672 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: Like? 673 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 4: Is it like because I was not in possession of it, 674 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 4: do you end up moving it in a certain spot 675 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 4: or how do you handle that decor in your household? 676 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 10: I put it away, out of sight, out of mind. 677 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 10: I don't get I don't deserve to look at it. Okay, 678 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 10: that's three out of the last four years. That's two 679 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 10: in a row that Iowa has seeded the Syhawk Trophy 680 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 10: to the Cyclones. 681 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 4: Man, why do I deserve to look at it? Yes, 682 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: but it as to stay in the dark. 683 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: Why they went they just have any sort of offensive attack, 684 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: Like why you would just think, like just go get 685 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: a quarterback, like anybody you got, you couldn't be any worse. 686 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's I think it's a wide receiver 687 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 10: problem for breaking down Iowa tape right now. I think 688 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 10: they need some some dudes to catch the ball. They 689 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 10: had a lot of injuries during that game too. Do 690 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 10: you think that they thought they were bringing in a 691 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 10: Gronkowski and it was a Granowski and they just like, yeah, 692 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 10: that's possible, Or how about a Gradkowski? Yes, maybe that 693 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 10: was thought they were bringing a Bruce Gradkowski, but you 694 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 10: got a Gronowski. 695 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 4: Yes, maybe that was the problem. All right, rank your 696 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 4: top three souvenirs from a sporting event. I think this 697 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 4: is apropos not only from Philly's Karen, but also I 698 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 4: saw like the NFL say like, man Justin Jefferson taking 699 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 4: care of this fan. I think Justin Jefferson just didn't 700 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 4: want to carry a top ten chain and medallion around 701 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 4: from ESPN. But cool souvenir for the fan to rink 702 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 4: your top three souvenirs from any sporting events, I'd. 703 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 2: Say baseball bat at three, basketball sneakers you know sometimes yeah, 704 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: the players got basketball sneakers at two. And baseball catching, 705 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: actually catching a baseball a game is number one. Now 706 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 2: I will point out that, you know, the NFL still 707 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 2: has a policy you get fined for throwing a game, 708 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: throwing a ball into the stands and you know when 709 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: they kick it. But back when the Rams used to 710 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: play at the Big A J. Stew there's a group 711 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: that was I think a national group called take Down 712 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 2: the Nets, and they tried to propose to the NFL 713 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 2: to take down the nets let an NFL fan walk 714 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: away with the football. It obviously was like thirty five 715 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: years ago and nothing ever happened to it. So maybe 716 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: they didn't make their please loud enough. 717 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 4: And that's game time. 718 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 3: Game. 719 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 7: This is game time on the Doug got Leave Show. 720 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: All right, coming up with the doutg gott Leap Show. 721 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna love our new concept on the show. 722 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: Why cause Jay stew invented. It's next to the Doug 723 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 2: Otlem Show.