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Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in to the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 1: Acts podcast. I'm Peanut Tillman and I got my boy

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Speaker 1: I'm's been telling me to rap, so I've been thinking

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Speaker 3: whether it's Apple Podcast, our Heart Radio. Peanut, who is

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Speaker 3: the beautiful guest today? This is a man of many,

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Speaker 3: many traits. Man.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me just read off his bio to you

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Speaker 1: real quick around Draft pick twenty eleven Draft dB veteran

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Speaker 1: six years in the league.

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Speaker 4: He now wears many hats.

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Speaker 1: A fashion model, personal trainer and he is probably from

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Speaker 1: the greatest state in the United States.

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Speaker 3: Baby, well the fact I mean when you said probably

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Speaker 3: probably maybe really hey, hey.

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Speaker 4: Just say it, Aaron Williams, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. That's a great intro.

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Speaker 1: Amazingly everybody knows SEXYT football is is king as it

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Speaker 1: pertains a football. It ain't no damn Alabama. I mean well,

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Speaker 1: first team All State Dave Campbell. Hey, if you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're not from Texas, you don't know about that

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Speaker 1: Dave Campbell. Like the Texas high school football the magazine

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Speaker 1: covered like it's it's everything to make that subject. Benson

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Speaker 1: was the first one to make it, like back in

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Speaker 1: like I was ninety nine, So he made it in

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Speaker 1: like ninety ninety eight or something like that, like.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a real it's a real big man.

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Speaker 3: The agent Peterson making too, I believe.

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Speaker 2: So. Yeah, because he came.

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Speaker 3: After him was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: He did.

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Speaker 1: It was like it was like a god, yeah, there

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Speaker 2: He was like starting like he was him before he

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Speaker 2: was him. That's how That's how he was pretty much. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: So I want to get off on this Aaron because

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Speaker 3: number one, man, you're a pretty fashionable guy yourself. But

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Speaker 3: I went and looked at your LinkedIn profile page and

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Speaker 3: I want to know have you updated it at all?

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Speaker 3: Because like you got a lot on there, Like how

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Speaker 3: often do you update this thing? You got all kinds.

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Speaker 2: I try to have my people updated for me because

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Speaker 2: I'm just always doing other things. Yes, I try to

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Speaker 2: do as much as possible. I mean, being in football

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Speaker 2: and we always taught the more you can do, the

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Speaker 1: So like a jack of all trades, I try to

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Speaker 1: be all right. So how many jobs do you have

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Speaker 1: right now? I mean I feel like I got two jobs,

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Speaker 1: like you is like you remember that show Living Colors,

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Speaker 1: Like how many job you?

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Speaker 2: God mind?

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Speaker 4: Not enough? How many jobs you.

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Speaker 2: Got right now? Honestly, I have a lot of hobbies.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't consider them jobs because they don't feel like jobs.

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Speaker 2: I get paid for them, but I make my own schedule.

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Speaker 2: I work with people that I really enjoy being with,

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Speaker 4: So what's the what's the best job you have right now?

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Speaker 4: What's the best?

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Speaker 2: Definitely definitely training high school, college, and some professional academy.

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Speaker 2: And I made to the highest level. So I was

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Speaker 2: So I've been around football camps my whole life, helped

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Speaker 3: I got a question for you because you're from McNeill, Texas,

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Speaker 3: doing some researches. All right, So tell me about McNeil

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Speaker 3: and kind of like your upbringing, because you know, you

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Speaker 3: doing all these other things. But how does he get involved?

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Speaker 3: How do you guys get involved in such a small

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. So McNeil is actually the high school I

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Speaker 1: I'm loving this conversation with all these Texas towns. This

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Speaker 2: And h predominantly white neighborhood, not really recognized for having

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Speaker 2: did our own thing. I had a brother play a

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Speaker 2: So family, so we've always been busy running around and

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Speaker 2: So I know the struggles of the transition of being

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Speaker 3: At some point.

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Speaker 2: At some point everyone's different, but it's going to end,

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Speaker 2: and that's when we're to me. Real life really starts

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Speaker 2: Have a plan B, C, D, because I know A

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Speaker 1: So excuse me, what's been one of the most gratifying

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Speaker 2: I think since you've been doing these camps, I think

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Speaker 2: for me, it's always great seeing one of your kids

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Speaker 2: But for me is when they come to me and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I want people to especial for US athletes. Our mentals

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Speaker 2: doing great in life after football. Football stuff is all great,

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Speaker 2: that's athletic ability that you and God can talk about

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Speaker 1: Well, you, I think you alluded to it a little

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Speaker 1: I had my little transition, rome you did his, obviously.

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Speaker 2: After football? I'm still there seven years the league. Now, man,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and outside of like how like as in like

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Speaker 2: I consider so my life before I I was a

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Speaker 2: How can I give back in any way possible? And

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Speaker 2: At that point, everything is you know, everything was schedule

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Speaker 3: So, dude, I saw that all growing up. I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the mental I think the well, I know the

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Speaker 2: I'm always say my family, yeah, but I mean outside

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Speaker 3: You know, my man Smoked Dixon. Gerald Smoked Dixon actually

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about because he raved about you.

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Speaker 3: I used to follow you because my boy talked about

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Speaker 3: Second one was bogus though, yeah, like number one. How

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Speaker 3: Like how far down was paralyzed.

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Speaker 2: It's basically like when your leg sleep and you're pinching

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Speaker 1: How screened was that When you felt that was like,

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 2: work my way back six month rehab recovery. Scary recovery,

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00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 2: by the way, just like I've never felt so scared

436
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: for people to be around me because at the time

437
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: when I had my surgery, my neck was like loose

438
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 2: because my my neck muscles weren't you know, really Yeah, I.

439
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 3: Was wondering like like did you have a big muscle atrophy?

440
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: Very much so so because after the surgery, when I walk,

441
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: you know you when you pop something, it's loose because

442
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: it's not That's how my neck felt. So when someone

443
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: bumped into me, it felt like my neck was about

444
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: to fall on the ground. So I was like, okay,

445
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm not moving no more. So I'm gonna say in

446
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: bed for the next two months and just chill. Got

447
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: my brace, my neck brace on. It was it was

448
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: a long, long journey, so work back.

449
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 3: Did you ever go out with a neck brace?

450
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: No? I didn't go out at all. Okay, there's no way, Okay,

451
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: I didn't go I'm seeing.

452
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: I just like, why are you here? Why are you here?

453
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 2: I've seen that.

454
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry. I had to know balid questions.

455
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm a god. That's like, if I could make a

456
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: way happen, I'm gonna do it.

457
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 4: And you seemed like that, okay.

458
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: Now tell him. That's how it was. Someone call my

459
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 2: name and be like, I'd be like, yo, what's up?

460
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: You're good?

461
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't need me? All right? Cool? So it

462
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: was a lot of weird movie meant for a while. Yeah,

463
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: fast forward, right before we get the training camp, worked

464
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: them my way up to getting uh well, I felt

465
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: like it was one hundred percent first first scrimmage of

466
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: the of the year in training camp, my first contact

467
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: game since my injury. I'm sweating bullets because I'm excited

468
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 2: to finally get back and play. Yeah, but in my mind, well,

469
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: can I sustain another hit? Yeah? Will I get back

470
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: up again? Will I even walk? Now? None of that's

471
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: really hitting me at the time, but it started hitting

472
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: me when we did the kickoff and then.

473
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 4: First first series of contact.

474
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 2: About to make some contact, I had a sweep to

475
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: the right to my side. Runnybody came in and I said,

476
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna find out we looked out eyed at each

477
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 2: other and I said, here we go. Made contact. It

478
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: was a big hit. Got up.

479
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I can feel myself.

480
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: I got excited, confidence, confidence, restore. I'm back. We had

481
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: just hired Ed Reid too as as our dB coach.

482
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: My mentor guy looked up to for a long time,

483
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: gave me the cheek hose of the game. All right,

484
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: perfect situation. And then the second hit happens, and then

485
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: Jarvis Landry Jarvis Lander hit, and that that was a

486
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: That was a rude awakening to what I was about

487
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: to get myself into. As far as life comes, ah,

488
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to go back again. So the draws landing hit.

489
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: I'm knocked out. Two minutes, three minutes, come in, come

490
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: back conscious. I'm looking at the sky. I'm telling myself

491
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: that I don't get up. This would be my last

492
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: play in the NFL. So I said, Aaron, gotta get up, Bro,

493
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: gotta get up. Got up. They're like, do you need

494
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 2: a stretcher? Do you need this to bring the ambulance?

495
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: I said, y'all better not bring the ambulance back out.

496
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: They didn't bring it out. I said, I got this

497
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: on a walk man, y'all been in the buiness for

498
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: a long time. When you've been in the business for

499
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: a long time, you kind of know the politics, what

500
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: owners are kind of thinking your gms. I got up.

501
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: I started walking on the field. Man. I don't know why,

502
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: but every sense my smell, my side, my field, it

503
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: heightened like by like ten. I smell the grass I'm

504
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: looking at, like the beautiful stadium in Miami, the sky.

505
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: I hear the crowd roar, and it was silence. But

506
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: then they saw me walk off. It was allowed to applause.

507
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: Something hit me bro and said this is my last game.

508
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. It's just like God

509
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: was like, can't can't let you go back anymore, So

510
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: walk on the field. I just I told myself, man,

511
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: take everything in you have right now, because this will

512
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 2: be the last time we will ever be in a

513
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: field with pads on and being a player. I remember

514
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: that like significantly, like it was yesterday. And then got

515
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: in the locker room, had trainer, assistant trainer, our owner

516
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: Terry Fugula, our GM Doug Whaley at the time, our president,

517
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: and we're in there. We were in there silent. Yeah,

518
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 2: all of them came came in there, all of them.

519
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: That's how you know how serious that was. The president

520
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: come down, owner.

521
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: The owner, everybody came down. And when they all came in,

522
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: bro I broke down. That's love though it's heck of love.

523
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: It's heck love. But I broke down because I knew

524
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: right then and there that was it. That was it

525
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: was it. So fast forward, get the surgery. We go

526
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: to uh Super Bowl in Houston. Yeah, Doug Whaley our president,

527
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: and I'm and the owner. We meet up. You know,

528
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: we have a conversation. How do you feel, how do

529
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: you rehab going? I'm good, Like I got it. I could.

530
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: I can keep going, keep playing. I've been working my

531
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: butt off. This is not the first time that's happened.

532
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm good. So it's like, okay, like we really want

533
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 2: you guys to stay here, be here, and we just

534
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: want to look out for your health. And I said, no,

535
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 2: I'm all good. March rolls around and everybody that's in

536
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: the league knows that March is free. It's that dude.

537
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: Calendar date, March tenth, nine thirty five am. I got

538
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: the call Doug Wayley and man, you're my first big signee.

539
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, we're going to cut you. And I'm like,

540
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm getting ready to go work out. Yeah, And we

541
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: had just had a conversation in February the Super Bowl

542
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: in Houston. Y'all love me, y'all, y'all wanted me to

543
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: come back, and then now y'all telling me I don't

544
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: want me. So now my confidence is shattered. And that's

545
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: when adult darkness comes in in a dark place, and

546
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: then I'm fighting to be on another team. I gave myself.

547
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm a guy that gave myself a time, a timeline,

548
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: and once that debt, once that period is done, like

549
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: we're moving on to the next thing. So I gave

550
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I'm not a guy that want

551
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: that wanted to, like like be around the game and

552
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: not on a team. Like I didn't want to just

553
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: be active, but not on a team. So I gave

554
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: myself a year. Because I've been around the business for

555
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: quite some time, I know how it goes, especially with

556
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: my two injuries. Went through the season, season came and gone.

557
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: That that's it. No one called I worked out the

558
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: whole year. It was the weirdest year of my life

559
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 2: just to work, just to be working out while watching.

560
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys, have you ever been on Wahington

561
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: watching the game, And he'd be like, dang, he's still

562
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: in the league. Dang he got another contract, and.

563
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: Then we know you better than ever.

564
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm not hating it, like it was just like my reality. Like, man,

565
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here and this guy's out there playing. So

566
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: the season year comes and gone, I'm like, all right,

567
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: that's it. The day the next day, New Orleans caused

568
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: my agent says, hey, we want Aaron to come in.

569
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: You don't have to do no the thing with the

570
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: doctor's physical physical you don't have to work out. We've

571
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: seen his game, we respect his game. We want him

572
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: two year, fourteen, come on in. Man. I couldn't do it.

573
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: I was checked out because once I said the year,

574
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: it was a year, yeah, and that year came and gone.

575
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: Now I could have been like, oh, they're gonna give

576
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: me once. Once you're checked out, you're checked out. And

577
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: I love the game, But it was like, do I

578
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: continue to be a Warrior? Do I keep continue to

579
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: be a savage? Or do I do I finally look

580
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: and say stop, Aaron. You're like you have so much

581
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: ahead of your only at that time, I was twenty six.

582
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: I was twenty six years old, very young, very young,

583
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: And it was like at that time I couldn't see past,

584
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: see myself fifty six years old. I was worried about

585
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: the now, especially the money that I was getting. I

586
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: was like, I'm taking care of my family's family's family's family. Yeah,

587
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: so why would I want to give that up? It

588
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: took me a long time, but my mind, my heart,

589
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: it just it just wouldn't allow me.

590
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: But to me, that's a savage though right there though,

591
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: like you listening to your body right, like I still

592
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: think you're I still know you're a savage. I think

593
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: you're a savage and courage just by the standpoint of

594
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: like you know what, this ain't right, I think I

595
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: need to check out. But look you you got carted offer,

596
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: you got taken off the field four times on a stretcher, right, Like.

597
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: It's happened to me once you any any times?

598
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: Never you play, you've been playing, you placed, you've been

599
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: playing I think Rome. A lot of y'all don't know thise,

600
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: but Rome started playing four all in like nineteen seventy two. Right,

601
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: this is Benjamin Button body right here. No seriously, you

602
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: say that he's been keeping playing a minute.

603
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: I've been watching both of y'all for a long time,

604
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: and I respect y'all's game. I remember seeing Ron I'm playing.

605
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: He took his helmet off two thousand and eleven, maybe

606
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: eleven twelve. So you take your helmet off? I said, oh, no,

607
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: it was it was early. This was when I was college. Yeah,

608
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: keeping two thousand and eight, I'm ready to hear thousand

609
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: and nine, the build up we were watching, I maybe

610
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: take your helmet off. I was like, damn because you

611
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: had the gray hair. And yeah, So fast forward when

612
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: I got drafted. I think we played you guys one time.

613
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: You did and me being a rookie kid twenty years

614
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: old in the league, I'm like, I'm I'm playing. He's

615
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: right here next to me. He's right here next what

616
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: all the time? I said, Dany, he still got great hair.

617
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: You don't want to color it, Ryan. Don't he look

618
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: like a Techmobil player?

619
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: He like.

620
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: I was like, look that was his Like he was

621
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: a throwback.

622
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, I saw room the first Like, dang yo,

623
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: this dude is from like tech Mobile, Like he playing

624
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: on an eighty five Bears, like.

625
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm so old that he's still playing. Here's just from

626
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: twenty five. Yes, so that you see that.

627
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: You say, you know, I mean, look, we love to

628
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: hear everybody's first time they recognize me because of my

629
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: gray hair. It's a thing.

630
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: Like damn.

631
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: Everybody has this, like random stories like the first time

632
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: I saw that Roman Harper was great.

633
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

634
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: They all thought I was way older than what I

635
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: was peanuts still older than me.

636
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 4: I am, but I don't look it.

637
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 3: You're correct, but you probably also maybe jing that thing

638
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: a little bit. I don't. So it's just part of

639
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: the deal. It's just part of the deal.

640
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: We're going to take a short break and we'll be

641
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: back in a minute.

642
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: Aaron, I want to know this because you one of

643
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: your job titles is life coach, And if you could

644
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: hire a life coach, or if you were a life

645
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: coach looking at younger Aaron Williams, what kind of advice

646
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: would you give him to be able to handle his

647
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: transition and to kind of kind of walk him through

648
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: that whole phase of his life these last six years.

649
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: For sure, one have the right people around you, that's

650
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: definitely one of the biggest things.

651
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: But how would Aaron know that. How would Aaron know

652
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: who the right people around him?

653
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: By knowing who you are and knowing your morals and

654
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: principles and what you how you want people to perceive

655
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: you as a person. I think the ego of my

656
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: NFL life trickled into my after football life a little bit,

657
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: and I had I was I still had that attitude

658
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: of I'm this, I don't need I'm this. Yeah, And

659
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: it had took me a little bit to understand like

660
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: that ain't even no more. And the people around me

661
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: weren't telling me the right things.

662
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: Oh, they were just feeding it.

663
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: They were feet into it. Been around a lot of people.

664
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: A lot of people have been around me. I've taken

665
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: care of a lot of people. It's kind of it

666
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: was hard to decipher who was there for me and

667
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: who was just there to live the life that I've

668
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: been living. And if you open up your eyes a

669
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 2: little and it's to me, it's self care. You'll get

670
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: tired of being used after a while. Like at some

671
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: point you're you're gonna be like, you know what, I'm good,

672
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm done, Like I'm I realized that you needed me

673
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: more than I needed you, so respectfully I'm gonna have

674
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: to just it's love, but I'm gonna have to show

675
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: my love from a distance. So when I started part

676
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: of my parton Ways from the Negative wavelength Vibes, whatever

677
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: you want to call it, but I started painting to

678
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: the true people that were there for me. And it

679
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 2: took my parents to understand or to help me understand, like, yeah,

680
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: that person wasn't really there for you. Remember when he

681
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: did this and that. Yeah, we would try to tell you,

682
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: but you just didn't want to You didn't want to

683
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: see it. We had life had to show you because

684
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: we tried, and life is your is the best teacher,

685
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: and it taught me it's just not the teacher you

686
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: want to teach. But it took me. It took life.

687
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: Took me a while to see who was there for

688
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: me and for me to take to understand and realize

689
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: that I had to understand my own self worth and

690
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: love for myself. So I got tired of just being

691
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: a nice guy. Sometimes you gotta be like, hey, bro,

692
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: I did all I can do for you. Is now

693
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: time for you to do yours. Because I had to

694
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: do that, no one was there when when I had

695
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: my first knick, surgery. My parents were there for me.

696
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: One of my friends came by and said, hey, how

697
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: are you doing? What you're good? How's your neck? Do

698
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: you do anything? It took six months of me to

699
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 2: do that by myself, I mean my parents, but really

700
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: by myself, to be like dang, like where are my people?

701
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm in my room three days straight in the dark.

702
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: I ain't got one phone call. So when things like

703
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: that started happen, you start regulating the good and the bad.

704
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: And then once you start regularing the good and the bad,

705
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: you have people that are pushing you, influencing you to

706
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: do better, to not be stagnant, to take what you

707
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: learn in football apply to life. Everything we do in football,

708
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: you can apply it to life, showing up to meetings

709
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: on time, plies of life, doing the things you don't

710
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: want to do. There have been time I'm sure you

711
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: guys woke up and was like, I don't want to

712
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: work out today. Yeah you know, but this morning. But

713
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: you knew the results of that, of what would happen

714
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: if you didn't work out. So there's a lot of

715
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: mental push. A lot of family and friends who were

716
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: there for me, loved ones to push me outside the

717
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: darkness and into the light. And then it took me

718
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: to want to better myself because a lot of people say, Aaron,

719
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: go get help Aaron, you should do this, Aaron, go

720
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: be a coach, Aaron, And I know I can do

721
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: those things, but in my mom I just don't want

722
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: to do it. Like I'm not in that mic right.

723
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: My space is just go do it. So I was

724
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: rejecting everything. It took me to be like, you know what,

725
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: bro come on, man, get up the same way you

726
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 2: got up when you hurt your neck the first time

727
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: and the second time, the same way we got to

728
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: get up, except now we're not in the football field.

729
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: We're in real life. We're in our bed, and we're

730
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: in our bed too long. We're getting comfortable in the dark,

731
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: and that's never a good thing, to get comfortable in

732
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: the dark. So I had to It was hard, but

733
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: I had to push myself. I had to really push

734
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: myself to get out of bed to go brush my teeth.

735
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: That's how bad, that's how down I was. I was

736
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: willing to smell, disgusting, look bad because I just didn't care.

737
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: I didn't have I didn't have I didn't foresee my

738
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: future outside of football. But having my parents and the

739
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: friends that were there, and my players, my young kids

740
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: that I trained. Now, I know they're young, but they

741
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: taught me. They keep me young, they keep they give

742
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: me a good spirit and and they helped me keep

743
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: in track by making sure that they're in there in line.

744
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: So having those things and then having something to get

745
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: you out of the house, having something for you to do,

746
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: whether that be fishing, whether that be doing your LinkedIn

747
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 2: to get ready for future jobs, whether that be getting

748
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: your resume ready, whatever it may be. It needs to

749
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: do something but create in your in your room and

750
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: ponder about what you did before, because pondering about the

751
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: past ain't gonna get you nowhere. But in the same place.

752
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my kids keep me out.

753
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: I got too many kids, soccer games and basketball games

754
00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: and everything.

755
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: I know you got a whole tribe too, I do.

756
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: I do.

757
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: That's good for us.

758
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 4: That though I'm a dad uber, I.

759
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: Just believed worm a, I'm a duber. I'd actually never

760
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: heard that until just no, Yeah, that's what we are.

761
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: That's really dope. Though you had to try because for me,

762
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't have kid or wife or you're lucky.

763
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: So it's positive and negatives.

764
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: It everything. I'm joking.

765
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: But one thing I do want to ask you, though,

766
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: is what you played. You've been playing? You played what

767
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: twenty five years in the league. I got thirteen, you

768
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: got six? So, uh what was your We all got

769
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: our welcome to the NFL moment? Like, what was your

770
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL moment?

771
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: Oh?

772
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: Man Marion Barber M Yeah that when he was in Chicago. Yeah, okay, yeah,

773
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: it's twenty eleven and uh yeah RP and my guy,

774
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: I've watched him when he was in Dallas before I

775
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: got to the league. Yeah, and just seeing him on TV,

776
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: he was looking he was a big dude, but in

777
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: person was another, especially with the dress and all that

778
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: it was. I was like, man, you're you're like crazy

779
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: good at what you do. I think it was like

780
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: a it was a power to my side. He jumped

781
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: out of the seat. The sea gap left the wide

782
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: open hole. Our d n got flushed out outside and

783
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: it was mono e mano. I think we're aund like

784
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: on the thirteen fourteen yard line and man, I got

785
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: trucks so bad. That man truck me so bad. And

786
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, gotta I gotta prove myself. This

787
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: is right before I made the tackle. I looked at

788
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: his eyes. I said, oh, we want to get him

789
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: went in there boom, oh snaph. I looked around my eyes.

790
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: I said, oh, I'm in the league. I remember being

791
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: social field.

792
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm looking up.

793
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: I said, oh, I'm here. I did it. But then

794
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: we got back to sidelines. Know the dbs like what happened?

795
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: Bro, Why.

796
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: Y'all know who that man was? Y'all tripping? So that

797
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: was my That was my welcome to the league moment.

798
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: But my other one was Calvin Johnson getting mossed by

799
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson was probably one of the most embarrassing.

800
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: Was it one player or was it like two or

801
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: three players? Because he was he was he was notorious.

802
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: It was going over seriously.

803
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: It was me. It was me and George Wilson on

804
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: that two of us most both of us.

805
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: This is that already knew give me that.

806
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: And I was in perfect position like I was, yeah,

807
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: you thought you. I thought I had it. And then

808
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: I went up and next thing I know, I see

809
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: two large and just give me this both of us

810
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: and I said, wow, this isn't this isn't college, Like,

811
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 2: you know, there's I was. I was pretty dominant in college,

812
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: so I was like I had winn against the best

813
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: I went justin Blackman. Was there a lot of receivers

814
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: Big twelve that I can't I can't really remember right

815
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: now because I don't even like receivers like that. But

816
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: you're good, we don't either. I played against top, top guys. Yeah.

817
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: So but when you know, you hear Calvin Johnson, you

818
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: know what to expect, but when it happens to you,

819
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, no, this man is for real.

820
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: No, we all have Calvin Johnson's stories. We you know,

821
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: Peanut played against him the most. But I remember the

822
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: first time that I was like, oh wow, yeah he

823
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: is different.

824
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: He him, Yeah for real.

825
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: We were in the I played in My My, My,

826
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: My first pro bawl got to play in and he

827
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: was out there. You know, he got the best of

828
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: the best out there, and I'm looking, I'm like, oh, yeah,

829
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: he's still way better than everybody else. It was like

830
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: next level of stuff. His catch, radious, ability able to jump.

831
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: Run, never seen a guy like that, never seen, was

832
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: like unheard of at the time.

833
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: So Big too, so Big, never talked, didn't speak, didn't

834
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: talk any trash, didn't the nicest even off the field.

835
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: I talked to him outside the outside of the game.

836
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: Nicest person you'll ever meet, even nicest person between those

837
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: white lines. Like he'll do the dirtiest thing to you,

838
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: like as far as like one hand catch or or

839
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: taking over your head, but won't say anything. He'd like,

840
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 2: hey go tryl you know this, very subtle comments, good try,

841
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: good play. But yeah, it was. It was really cool

842
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: and it's a it's such a blessing man to see

843
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: guys like you and Tilman. I grew up watching on TV,

844
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: and I was like emulating in my high school days

845
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 2: punch out king right here, like I was in practice.

846
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: Like people got mad at me because they got tired

847
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: of me punching, punching them me too, but I was like, man,

848
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: this this great is doing it, and look what's happened.

849
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: So I was punching and so like watching you guys

850
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: and then being able to be on the same field,

851
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 2: man is Honestly, I wanted to say to you guys,

852
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: it's such an honor to share a feel with you guys,

853
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: because you guys have been great role models for me.

854
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: You showed nothing but positive outlooks of how to be

855
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: a dB one and then two after after football, I

856
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: followed you on the FBI, right, yes, sir, followed. I

857
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: followed you guys, and to see you guys from being

858
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: great football players to just being great men, great husbands,

859
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: great fathers, That's that's what I look for. And I

860
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: want to thank you guys because a lot of I

861
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: was fortunate to have my dad, and when my dad

862
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: wasn't there, you guys were the ones that I was like, well,

863
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: how can I get to that? So thank you for

864
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: being good role model to me, even though you don't

865
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: never knew or noticed that. I was watching you guys

866
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: from a distance. Guys do that and just the way

867
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: you got guys carry yourselves made me want to move

868
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: the same way. And I got compliments from that. And

869
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: I thank you guys because I learned from you guys

870
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: and my peers that helped me through the way as well.

871
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: So, oh, dude, that's ultimate. Thank you. Yeah, peenup receiving that,

872
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 3: that's a big thing for him. We've worked on this

873
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: since the podcast. He's gotten better at receiving compliments. And

874
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming from you, So I appreciate that.

875
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 3: That's that is awesome to hear, and not only that,

876
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: but it's going to pay it forward to the next

877
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: generation as well, because everything that you're doing in your

878
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: communities that you're serving. I got one last football question

879
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: and then we'll probably finish up on a fun question too,

880
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: And for me, it's that number one what made playing

881
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: in Buffalo special and number two being from Texas like

882
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: me being in Alabama. Like I remember, Buffalo called me

883
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: and I was like, nah, bro, I can't do it.

884
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: Like I can't, I can't do it. I didn't they

885
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: called you, Yeah, Like nah, it's just not Yeah.

886
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: I can't.

887
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm first of all, I don't think

888
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: my family's going to go up here, and I don't

889
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: think I can deal with the cold. So how did

890
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: you do it?

891
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: Well? First of all, I didn't know where Buffalo was

892
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: when I got drafted.

893
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: Okay, there it is.

894
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 2: So when I got there because during the draft process,

895
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: I didn't talk to nothing, not one person from from

896
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: the Bill staff. So to get drafted by then was

897
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: completely different. But getting there, like I said, kid from

898
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: Texas with different culture shock, It took me about a

899
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: year and a half to really start to get into things,

900
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: give it a chance to be would.

901
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: You do that first year?

902
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: Just did you wear sleeves in the game?

903
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm proud to say that, and that that's a

904
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: that's a that's an old school yes, Like I'm old

905
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: school general. I'm y'all's generation to call you guys all

906
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: or anything, but like I grew up learning from you

907
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: guys of like we don't show weakness, Like we don't

908
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: show the other team that were cold and we can't

909
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: keep up with them. So my teammates got mad at

910
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: me because I did the same thing, like we ain't

911
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: wearning sleeves out there. I had a lot of guys

912
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: from Florida, Louisiana and Cali that wanted were sleeves. I'm like, nah, man,

913
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: this is a mental thing. So I was more of

914
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: the old school regiment. But Buffalo was It's a similarity

915
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: between Texas a little bit as far as the football side,

916
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: and then you have the blue collar city that I

917
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: have never been witnessed before. I come from Austin somewhat

918
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: a big city, kind of created city, and then Buffalo

919
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: where there's like not really anything really going on, but

920
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: the people there are so amazing. They work hard for

921
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: what they have. They love their bills like no other. There.

922
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 2: You guys may notice our fan base is the number

923
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: one fan base I know. There may be the Cowboys or.

924
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 4: Jump I can break this market.

925
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: It's crazy and they light on fire. They do a

926
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: lot of crazy things.

927
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 4: It's like they're a college town exactly.

928
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: That's what and that's what. It reminded me of being

929
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 2: at ut for a while. And when I got outside

930
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: my ways and started actually playing good and then just

931
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: getting with the with the people in the community, I realized, Man,

932
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: this place is actually like really amazing and it's not

933
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: the glitten gamer glamour. You ain't gonna go to a

934
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: red carpet one weekend and then a basketball game the

935
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: next weekend. It's just you find people that you that

936
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: mold what you believe in, and you stick around and

937
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: hang out and then they introduce you to someone else,

938
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: and they introduce you someone else. And the fact that

939
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: they were respectful enough for me to like invite me

940
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: to like their company dinners or their family dinners just

941
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: out of love. I was like, cool, this is this

942
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: is great. But then to be like, hey, invite your

943
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: teammates as well, like not just to be around me,

944
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: They wanted to be just around us, like the team.

945
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: And I felt like that was really special because other

946
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: other teams don't have those type of fan bases where

947
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: they show a lot of love. They may be crazy

948
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: about you on the field, but when it comes off

949
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: the field, it may be a little different. Bill's Mafia

950
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: now they gonna know you, like a lot of people

951
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: don't recognize you because we have our helmets on. But

952
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia gonna know you. Once a Bill, always a Bill.

953
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: That's That's one of the things. So I gave it

954
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: a chance, and people treated me like, like I said,

955
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: if I was their own. So I just ran with

956
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: it and just kept going.

957
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: So all right, now, fun question, So are you still

958
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: horseback riding?

959
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: Man I still do horseback ride, having horseback ride, rode

960
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: in Manute just because of the neck in the back.

961
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you got some great pictures out there on

962
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: the internet, great pictures.

963
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: I still got my five horses out there. I haven't

964
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: haven't really rodeoed the much that like I used to.

965
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 3: You have five horses, what are their names? You got names?

966
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

967
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: I got got Dallas, I got bo At, least some

968
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: of there's Cisco in there.

969
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: I know Cisco, Cisco in there, Ivy, Rudolph or Rudy.

970
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: I call it Rudy, And I know I'm forgetting one.

971
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: We just got it though, okay, so but yeah, it

972
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: keeps me busy. He's my mind clear for sure. The

973
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 2: connection with the horse is just.

974
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: Like everybody talks about that you own a horse, you

975
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: have like this connection.

976
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 2: Connection, man, It teach you how do you? Energy is real?

977
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: Energy is real like when you walk. When you walk

978
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: into a room, people are either going to notice you

979
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: or they're not. And it's just off the energy you

980
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: bring off. And I learned that from horses. I communicate

981
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: through a horse just by hepathically, just like energy. And

982
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: just if I come off and they know I'm sad

983
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: or frustrated or mad about something, they can sense it.

984
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: If I'm happy and create and just want to be free,

985
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 2: they can sense that. So if I'm sad and the frustrated,

986
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 2: it's gonna be long day writing because he's gonna feel

987
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: that same tension for loose and having a great time.

988
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: It's it's one of the most peaceful things you can

989
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: be a part of. But it taught me how to

990
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: regulate and how to maneuver in certain spaces and really

991
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: just present yourself with with confidence and everything. So horses

992
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: definitely keep you busy. Yeah.

993
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you seem like you've had or I know, you've

994
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: had a pretty successful life and your upbringing with mom, dad, parents,

995
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: of your family, who would you say is on your

996
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 1: personal mount rushmore so helping you get to where you are.

997
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: In life right now?

998
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: Mm hm, outside of my family.

999
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: Just it could be family, It could be it could

1000
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: be anybody. It's your personal mount rushmore of four people.

1001
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, Mom and Dad one and two off

1002
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: the back, off the rip. Fred Jackson will be number three.

1003
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: All right, now, you gotta tell me why you can't

1004
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 3: just name drop keep it moving.

1005
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: Mom and Dad is altusly for obvious reasons. They've been

1006
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 2: there since day one. So injury injury.

1007
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 3: You said a little bit about Fred earlier, you talked about.

1008
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: Fred. Fred's been been with me through my ups and

1009
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: downs life. Uh, He's been with me to the good

1010
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: and the bad and the ugly and it's still with

1011
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: me to this day. Talked to me yesterday actually, So

1012
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: he was never one of those vets that only vetted

1013
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 2: you in the locker room. He was one of those

1014
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: vets that checked up on you and make sure you

1015
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: things were good and make sure you were on the

1016
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: right path. There have been times where I veered off

1017
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: and he grabbed me and brought me back. If it

1018
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: wasn't for him, I wouldn't have my second contract if

1019
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't for him. I wouldn't have the love of

1020
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have

1021
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: the confidence of of of trying new things when I

1022
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: don't have any interest of doing it. He taught me like,

1023
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: you never know until you try. He was one of

1024
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: those guys that told me that there's been times where well,

1025
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: I've gotten he's gotten late night phone calls while because

1026
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: I was out partying and doing crazy things. And he

1027
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: was never the one to just hang up the phone

1028
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: and be like, well he's a grown man, let him

1029
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: do his own decisions. He'd wake up. I'm talking about

1030
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: this man has man. I'm supposed to know this one

1031
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: two three, five kids, four or five kids and a

1032
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: wife left them to come save me and the time

1033
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 2: of need where I needed him. And you don't get

1034
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that you don't grow up with

1035
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: or you just met because of work to have that

1036
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: type of love and care for you. So I will

1037
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: always be into debt with Fred no matter. There's nothing

1038
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: anyone could say bad about Fred to me because I'm

1039
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: here now because of partially what he taught me. And

1040
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: and just like your kids get on your nerves, I

1041
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: got on his nerves, but he never gave up on me. Yeah,

1042
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: so that for sure, Fred will be number three. I'm

1043
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: gonna say my head trainer, Sean Sean Gibson will be

1044
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: number four because I hate like I don't want to

1045
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 2: choke up, but he was the reason why I I'm

1046
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: able to walk, I'm able to have a clearer mind.

1047
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: He's the one that sat me down. He's the only

1048
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: person besides my mom and dad to sit me down

1049
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: and say, hey, you're a grateful a player, You're a

1050
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: great person. I am not talking to you from a

1051
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: head trainer standpoint. Remove the head trainer helmet. This is

1052
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 2: a man, a friend, a person that loves you. You

1053
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: need to stop playing the game. It was hard for

1054
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: me to hear that.

1055
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine. I couldn't either.

1056
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: It was a guy that wanted me. He knew my goals.

1057
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: I want to be pro bowler, all pro super Bowl,

1058
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: all this stuff. He knew that I worked hard, but

1059
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: he also knew I had so much ahead of me.

1060
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: Yea No one in that facility said, Aaron, you might

1061
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: need to stop playing this game for your health reasons only,

1062
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: not that like call anybody out. I'm not trying to

1063
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: call anybody out or anything, but say in the fact,

1064
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: this man took off the badge of being a bill

1065
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: staff member and put his own personal being love and

1066
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 2: care for me and saying I love you enough too

1067
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: much to allow you to want to go back on

1068
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: that field and for me to be like, potentially carry

1069
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: you off and may not walk again, potentially carry you

1070
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 2: off and tell your family members he's no longer here

1071
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: with us because of a hit or because of this,

1072
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: because of that, he loved me enough to sit me

1073
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: down and say you're more than what you are now.

1074
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: And it took someone outside and my family members to

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Speaker 2: tell me. Because when your son Dad tells me, it's

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Speaker 2: all the time, but it doesn't register like that. For

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, I don't know why it doesn't when you're

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Speaker 2: here from someone that sees you outside of what your

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Speaker 2: parents see you, You're like, oh crap, someone outside my

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Speaker 2: parents just telling me the same thing. I might want

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Speaker 2: to listen. So Mom, Dad, Fred Jackson, Sean Gibson, my

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Speaker 3: Dude, that was great. Almost teared up right there then,

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Speaker 3: and I cry a lot all the time.

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Speaker 2: I started being I started just accepting it's okay to

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Speaker 2: let emotions be emotions.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it. I did and look, man, I

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Speaker 3: because I was laughing so hard. But you know me, though,

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Speaker 3: I think you have a real full day whenever you're

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Speaker 3: able to laugh and cry.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely in the same day, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Full blown, absolute circle of life. I'm still waiting. I

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Speaker 1: think my crying is just from this oil I put

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Speaker 1: on my face my eye. So that's kind of why

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Speaker 1: I'm tearing up right now. It's getting irritate. Well, Aaron Man,

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Speaker 1: thank you, man. Appreciate that. Mank you guys for having

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Speaker 1: me this beautiful story.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm glad we got to hear that. Man, than

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Speaker 3: you got to see each other's faces. And definitely without

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Speaker 3: the helmet on, you got great hair. Peanut hairs, all right,

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Speaker 3: I mean the great waves is popping.

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Speaker 2: We're good. I appreciate you it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks man, appreciate it that but hey, first of all,

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Speaker 3: let me get this out of here the right way

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Speaker 3: for all of our listeners and everybody that always tunes in. Man,

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Speaker 3: make sure you give us a five star rating, give

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Speaker 3: us a review, hit follow, leave a couple of comments. Please,

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Speaker 3: you know, tell a friend to tell a friend to

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Speaker 3: do what Peanut, tell a friend there we go, tell

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Speaker 3: a friend. Man, wherever you pick up your podcast, whether

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Speaker 3: this Apple podcast, iHeartRadio app, please please continue to follow.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: We're telling great stories, really allowing people like Aaron Williams

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Speaker 3: himself to open up and tell his side of the

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Speaker 3: story of his transition and what all we're doing and

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Speaker 3: now in our second act. Man, it's been great to

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Speaker 3: hear another side of it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me. Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, Hey, Peanut getting off the gray that's Aaron

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Speaker 1: NFL player.

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Speaker 4: Second act podcasts we out