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Speaker 1: excited for today's ridiculous romance. I'm Eli, I'm Diana. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be reading some of your letters today.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't like this episode, you know, blame yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you wrote this. Yeah, either for writing these letters

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Speaker 1: or for not writing us better ones. Yeah, look inwards. No,

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Speaker 1: this is great. I love this stuff. Very excited to

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Speaker 1: hear your words. And what else are we very excited for, Diana? Well,

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Speaker 1: we are performing this Friday. Yeah, I'm very excited about that.

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Speaker 1: We're actually doing kind of a tiny, eighty bitty version

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Speaker 1: is so cool. Yes, the show is called Solved for X.

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Speaker 1: It's for the Atlanta Science Festival. Our friend Ray Pendergrass

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Speaker 1: different talented performers to get up on stage and do

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Speaker 1: their thing for five to seven minutes somehow related to science. Right,

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be educational right necessarily, And

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Speaker 1: interpretive dance. Yeah, and then someone else who has no

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Speaker 1: be hilarious. Um so yeah, if you're in the Atlanta area,

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Speaker 1: come check that out. It'll be tonight if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this episode as it drops. True. Yeah, but it'll

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Speaker 1: be fun. It'll be at a brewery and we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about Ida and Jupe who had sex in an

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Speaker 1: MRI machine. If you guys listen to that episode, that's

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Speaker 1: such a good episode. I can't wait too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: It's cauld be so fun to be on stage and

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Speaker 1: y'all to flood iHeartRadio with emails about it. But once

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Speaker 1: do I'm going to do it, so get on it.

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Speaker 1: That's your job, everybody, bring us to your town. Right. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's time that we just get to it,

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Speaker 1: because again, we've got a bunch of emails and messages

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Speaker 1: and everything from y'all that we want to read today.

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Speaker 1: Because you send so many wonderful things in we often

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Speaker 1: don't have time to read them in the episodes. We figured, hey,

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Speaker 1: and we've got some of your own stories and poems.

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Speaker 1: We've got a couple of little corrections from stories we've

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Speaker 1: told in the past, some brand new, pretty interesting info,

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Speaker 1: we already told. So some really cool stuff coming at

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Speaker 1: you for this one. Yes, I cannot wait. You get

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Speaker 1: Eli and Diana got some stories to tell. There's no matchmaking,

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Speaker 1: romantic tips. It's just about ridiculous relationships. A lover might

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Speaker 1: wet the second clinch. Ridiculous Roles, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Our first email was sent from Amanda n December second.

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Speaker 1: She writes, Hello Eli and Diana, and happy birthday Eli. Ah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I mean it's nice to hear her happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: A few months later. Still, I know, right, and it

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Speaker 1: soon as the episode drops. Fantastic. Thank you, that's amazing,

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Speaker 1: She says. I just listened to The Emperorswen Song Part

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Speaker 1: drama that you might be interested it in if you

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Speaker 1: like Asian dramas. It is called Rebel Princess. You can

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Speaker 1: find it on Prime and Raccutin Viki, which is Rakuten

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Speaker 1: Viki is a new one for me. Do you know

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I think I've heard of you know what,

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Speaker 1: some animes. Yeah, yeah, Rackettence, that makes sense. Not sponsors

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Speaker 1: haven't tried him, No, but you know, if they want

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Speaker 1: Amanda continues that Rebel Princess is centered on an unexpected

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Speaker 1: They're like sixty some episodes. I think. The main character

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Speaker 1: the story of Emperor's One Song right now, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, you're getting plenty of emails explaining the legend

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Speaker 1: Lutheran and don't remember learning what exactly this is supposed

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Speaker 1: to mean. But I never learned knowledge was a sin.

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Speaker 1: I took the tree to be like taking the rose

422
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: colored glasses off and finally seeing good and bad. It's

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Speaker 1: not all naming animals and hanging out naked in a garden.

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Speaker 1: Not much to do with the actual subject to the show.

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Speaker 1: Just a friendly hey, by the way, love the show. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's useful because I do remember we were talking about like, oh,

427
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Speaker 1: it's so weird that any religion that says knowledge is

428
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Speaker 1: evil is probably not one that I want to be

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Speaker 1: involved in, right, Right, that makes sense to be like, oh,

430
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Speaker 1: it's not that knowledge is wrong, it's just that it

431
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Speaker 1: was a tree that gave you, I guess, a sense

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Speaker 1: of morality. Right, It's sort of like or made a

433
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Speaker 1: judgment about what was good or bad. I think it

434
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Speaker 1: sort of perpetuates the existence of evil, then, wouldn't it,

435
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Speaker 1: because if you it's sort of like you can't have

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Speaker 1: dark without lights, vice versa. Right, So now it becomes

437
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: these two distinct entities as opposed to sort of this

438
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: like I see everything in one color and it's all

439
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: just kind of neutral and fine. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I know theologian, and I know that there's been different interpretations.

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Speaker 1: I've often heard people talk about it being knowledge and

442
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Speaker 1: Eve was you know, once Eve got woke, you know,

443
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Speaker 1: they kicked her out of the garden. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's a misinterpretation that has been both you know, just

445
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Speaker 1: idiots like us talking about it who ain't got no

446
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: business too, and also people in power kind of manipulating

447
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: it in that way to give themselves more control, right,

448
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: very true. Yeah, I also love that it kind of

449
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: points out a big problem, which is where we love

450
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: to take not we you and I, but we as

451
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: in human beings, love to take a phrase and like

452
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Speaker 1: chop off half of it should where it means something

453
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Speaker 1: completely different than the phrase means. Yes, the one that's

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Speaker 1: coming to mind is one bad apple, because we've heard

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Speaker 1: that one a lot. Don't let one bad apple whatever.

456
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: But the phrase is one bad apple spoils the whole bunch, right,

457
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Speaker 1: So actually one bad apple is the thing you need

458
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Speaker 1: to be worried, Yeah, exactly, or like a jack of

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Speaker 1: all trades but a master of none. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: it's a bad thing, but the rest of the phrase

461
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Speaker 1: is but better than master of one. So it's better

462
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Speaker 1: to be a jack of all trades than a master

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Speaker 1: of one. Good anyway, Oh you think you don't think

464
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Speaker 1: so well. I'm a jack of all trades and I

465
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Speaker 1: don't have a competitive skill set in any of them,

466
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Speaker 1: so it's sometimes hard to find a job. Yeah, but

467
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Speaker 1: I could do a little bit just about everything you need.

468
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: I was for you game nerds out there. I was

469
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: playing sky Rim when it first came out, and I

470
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: was having so much fun. And I got to level thirty,

471
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Speaker 1: and I really and I was somewhere around thirty, late twenties,

472
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Speaker 1: and I realized that I had every time I leveled up,

473
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Speaker 1: I put a point into a different skill, and so

474
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Speaker 1: none of my skills were strong enough to keep me

475
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Speaker 1: a lot. I was getting murdered by everything by this point,

476
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, this is a

477
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: metaphor for my life. Our next Instagram message came from

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Speaker 1: Underscore Locks. Hey guys, I love your podcast and it

479
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Speaker 1: got me through my biggest shock after learning my grandma

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Speaker 1: passed away while studying abroad in dark and snowy Finland.

481
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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. That's really sad to hear. Sorry they

482
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: say there was almost no sunshine for four months, but

483
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: I listened to every episode and chuckled my way out

484
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: of that dark time. Oh that's lovely. But as an

485
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: art historian, I feel like I have to let you

486
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Speaker 1: know about what I believe is the correct way to

487
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: pronounce a name. From your recent episode about Claude Cahoun

488
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Speaker 1: and Marcel Moore, that was our episode about the avant

489
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Speaker 1: garde French artists that ended up running an entire resistance

490
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Speaker 1: campaign on the island of Jersey against the Nazi. We

491
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: talked about Marcel Duchamp, the artist having an alter ego

492
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Speaker 1: named rose Celavie. Well Locke says that that should be

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Speaker 1: pronounced as the famous expression say leave more like blows brilliant.

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Speaker 1: It's spelled se l A v i E. That's right,

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Speaker 1: But of course it's a drag name. That's brilliant great. Great.

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Speaker 1: That's way better than Sellavie or whatever we say. I

497
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: don't know. It's a good catch, and it's it's one

498
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: of those things that's like you read something over and

499
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: over again without hearing it, and you just don't catch

500
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: these things. Yes, it's so true. I'm so glad you

501
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: caught it. Yes, that's such a good little double entendre. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it. And they conclude your episode was an

503
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Speaker 1: absolute delight and a perfect intro to spring and a

504
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: more joyous time. Oh good, thank you. I'm so glad

505
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: that you liked it, and I'm so sorry about your grandma. Yes,

506
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Speaker 1: I hope you're getting twenty hours of sunshine a day now.

507
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: I guess is that how it works? Does it go

508
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: straight to all sunshine? I feel like spring, there's a

509
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: nice balance there. It probably is. It's like the nicest

510
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: time to go to Finland. Yeah, that's when I'd like

511
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: to go to Finland, yes, or something. Although I always

512
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: think of dating myself alert, I always think of rescue

513
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: rangers with Finland because they went to you know, Finland,

514
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: and it was all fish that lived in little fish bowls. Um,

515
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: that had a whole society. I'm like, that's what Finland

516
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 1: is like. It's mostly fish people. So write and let

517
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Speaker 1: us know if you're a fish person. I guess, corrections, Garner,

518
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: some people in Finland are human. Label all Finnish people

519
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Speaker 1: as fish people. Um, but notmaid, not mermaid, no no

520
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: no no, just fish fish like anthropomoric fish. Wow. All right, Yeah,

521
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: but they still needed to breathe water, so they had

522
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Speaker 1: like reverse scuba suits where it was like water bowls

523
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: over their head. If I'm remembering this correctly, why would

524
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: fish people want to live on land if they had

525
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: to breathe? Well, anyway, I'm not going to question. Look,

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Speaker 1: you want to talk to the drug dealers for the

527
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Speaker 1: rescue rangers writers, and you talk to them, Okay, I

528
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: feel it has some really good story. Yes, that's really good.

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Speaker 1: Drop too, apparently all right. Next up comes a message

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Speaker 1: from super listener Rachel Vaughan. Yes, she let us know

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Speaker 1: that the Guinness World Record for the longest underwater kiss

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00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: was broken this year. We had previously reported in our

533
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: Guinness Romance stories that Michelle Fucarino and Eliza Latziana kissed

534
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Speaker 1: underwater for three minutes and twenty four seconds in twenty ten,

535
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Speaker 1: but Rachel let us know that this year Beth Nelle

536
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: forty from South Africa and Miles Clotier thirty three from

537
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: Canada her fiance traveled to the Maldives and they kissed

538
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Speaker 1: underwater for four minutes and six seconds on February fourth

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three. The couple said that their successful

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Speaker 1: record attempt came after three days of practice, and it's

541
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: just three days of trying to hold their faces together

542
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: for four minutes above water, and then can we do

543
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: it underwater? It's the real question. That's wild. I can't

544
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: imagine doing any one thing for four minutes. My brain

545
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: can't stay focused, will not do it. I also love

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Speaker 1: the practice part because, like, imagine you did it one

547
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: day and you managed to get four minutes. You know

548
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, you broke the record. You were like, oh,

549
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: it's practice, So that always seeks to do it again.

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Speaker 1: Ain't that true for every like record setting, Like if

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Speaker 1: you're running, you know, a marathon, and you break your

552
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: time on a personal run and then you you biff

553
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: it for the actual competition. You go to the judge

554
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: and you're like, but I did it yesterday, doesn't count

555
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: means nothing. Oh wow, that's um cool, that's pretty awesome. Now,

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Speaker 1: how do you breathe? I mean you can't breathe obviously,

557
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: so how does it? Well? I guess that's part of

558
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: the practice is learning how to hold your breath for

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00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: formative right. And we talked about this in that last

560
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: episode two about like do you do you breathe to

561
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: each other? Can you share air that wouldn't last for

562
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: very long. I don't think. Um, but then you know,

563
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: I remember reading about the or hearing all these interviews

564
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: about the Avatar to filming and James Cameron got all

565
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: those actors like holding their breath for like six minutes

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00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: and shit, that's wild. Yeah, what a what a skill.

567
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, but it's you're animating it. Why do

568
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I have to be underwater? Cg in my ass? But

569
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: it did look good. It looked real good. I can't

570
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: complain about the results. Yeah. Well, let's take a quick break.

571
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Speaker 1: We've got a couple more emails to get to and

572
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: they're both about one of our favorite episodes, John Wilmot,

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00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: The Poet the Body Poets. Right, so we're gonna take

574
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll come back and wrap up with those.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. So the next message comes from super

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00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: listener Barbara Banks. Hey, my mother m and she is

577
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: one of our biggest fans, which is great for me,

578
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: I know, right, and all you know, if you're an

579
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: artist out there trying to prove to your parents that

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00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: your life is worth something, Um, this is this is

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Speaker 1: how you do it. My life is worth something, mother,

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00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: Now my parents have always been overly supportive of my

583
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: artistic ambitions. They were like, yeah, who needs financially stable

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00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: future whatever, just do follow your heart. And all my

585
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: friends they were like my parents. They didn't want me

586
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: to be an artist. They made me go to business school.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, now I have a three bedroom house. Yeah,

588
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Speaker 1: now I own things under my own name. Now I

589
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: got my groceries without checking first. Yeah, all right. That's

590
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: what's so funny because sometimes I'll be like, it's so

591
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: cool that you're still doing that thing that you love,

592
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And we're both like, I'd

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Speaker 1: love to own a house now. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: i'd love to own a house now, you know what? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh no, But I'm very grateful for all this. And

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Speaker 1: Mom says that after our John Wilmot episode as to

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Speaker 1: the Earl's deathbed confession, which just to fill you in,

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00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: when the Earl of Rochester died, his mother had hired

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Speaker 1: a Protestant minister to go in and save his soul

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Speaker 1: and have him convert to Christianity on his deathbed, and

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Speaker 1: according to this minister, Gilbert John Wilmot did have a

602
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: last minute change of heart renouncing his atheism and his

603
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: debaucherous ways and requesting to convert to Anglicism. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: we did mention that a lot of scholars are pretty

605
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Speaker 1: skeptical about this because the only account of this exists

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Speaker 1: from the Protestant minister Gilbert himself in his writings, and

607
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: the idea being that, of course he would say that

608
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: because John Wilmot was this like insane libertine, and if

609
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: you converted him, that's like the greatest feat a minister

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00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: could achieve, the MVP Most Valuable Priest. Right Well, Barbara

611
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: Bank says that if you're an atheist, there's no reason

612
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: not to lie to keep your mother happy, and if

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00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: you're a preacher seeking handouts, there's all so no reason

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Speaker 1: not to lie to a mother whose great solace would

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Speaker 1: be her son's purported salvation. So it is possible it's

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Speaker 1: true that Gilbert lied about converting just to make his

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Speaker 1: mom hay, because he didn't care. He's like, I know

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00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: what's coming for me anyway, so I could say whatever

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Speaker 1: I want, right, Or that the preacher was like, yeah, lady,

620
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: he said he converted. He's he knew you'd be so happy,

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Speaker 1: And and they were friends to Gilbert Burnett and John Wilmot, Right,

622
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: so they could have even hatched the plan between themselves. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe John's on his deathbed saying, hey, buddy, one last

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00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: prank on my mom. Tell her I converted. And he

625
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to tell the punchline. He died

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00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: before the punchline came out every comedian zone. He's like,

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Speaker 1: May converted all her ducks PDFs. Gilbert's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that means. No, that was a good that

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Speaker 1: That's a very good insight because I know we both

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Speaker 1: were like, Gilbert, you liar, you know whatever, But um,

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Speaker 1: that's a good reason to do to do it is

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Speaker 1: to just make your mom happy. So we did not

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Speaker 1: think of that. So on my deathbed, after I become

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Speaker 1: a wealthy financier, I will tell the whoever my mother

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Speaker 1: sends in and I'm fine final moments to say, tell

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Speaker 1: her I was happier as an artist. I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: for all of the encouragement. I was gonna say, unlikely

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Speaker 1: for Barbara to send a priest into your death, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. She'll send whoever's nearby. You

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Speaker 1: go check on him, William. I'm not going in there

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Speaker 1: all right. Finally, we have an incredible ending for this

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Speaker 1: listener mail. I'm so happy about this one because Heidi

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Speaker 1: Kay wrote in on March eighth and said, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I've been a listener from the very beginning. I was

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Speaker 1: totally inspired by your episode the Body Poems of John Wilmot.

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Speaker 1: Since I have been recovering from a full hysterectomy, I've

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Speaker 1: been thinking about something Diana said, women like sex and

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Speaker 1: want it just as much as men. Thank you. I

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Speaker 1: did say that I'm very smart, Heidi says. Since I'm

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Speaker 1: currently unable, I thought I'd try to write a poem

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Speaker 1: for my husband to show him how much I appreciate

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Speaker 1: his patience through it all and also my impatience. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: and for fun, I've included the poem Enjoy my little

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Speaker 1: contribution to poetry corner. We've so excited. We're hoping Yo

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Speaker 1: would send us your body poems, and Heidi came through.

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Speaker 1: Heidi came through. Be like Heidi. So let's go down

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Speaker 1: the poetry corner and hear Heidi Kay's body poem for

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Speaker 1: her husband. My true love is brilliant, loving and kind.

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Speaker 1: His soldier is patient stoic and always inclined. Going on

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, under our vows, we've been bound. His

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Speaker 1: soldier has never strayed nor disappointed. I've found, but for

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Speaker 1: that day they took my daughter's first home, and the

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Speaker 1: physician exclaimed, no more shall he roam The flowers in

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Speaker 1: the garden, all full of its nectar, shall stay locked up,

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Speaker 1: be unseen like a specter weeks of octobule, the doors

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Speaker 1: locked like a church. Many ways to show pleasure I've

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Speaker 1: tried and researched. This hardy soldier is slow to upset.

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Speaker 1: His only wish my pain to offset he has brought

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Speaker 1: unto me treats surely scrumptious, my mind only thinking of

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Speaker 1: that sweet purky rumpus. How when I'm sad and frustrated

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Speaker 1: with the loss of his bucks, he jumps in his

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Speaker 1: carriage and seeks out the star of Bucks, where he

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Speaker 1: promptly orders a tea bay ice to mine hand. It

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Speaker 1: is delivered to make me feel nice. Now the soldier

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Speaker 1: is creative, I'll give it to him. For him the

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Speaker 1: petals are as sweet as the spell, for he can

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Speaker 1: make the whole garden warble with all of his tricks

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Speaker 1: and talents of oral alas thrice more weeks we shall

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Speaker 1: be made to suffer. For you see, I've been thinking,

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Speaker 1: for who is it rougher? When I think to the

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Speaker 1: day my gates, he will breach his head to my breast.

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Speaker 1: As to God, I do preach no more careful we

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Speaker 1: need be. It's all for the best, for the maker

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Speaker 1: of babies has been put to rest. And this I

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Speaker 1: have learned whilst I swing on life string. He's no

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Speaker 1: soldier at all. To me, he's a king. Amazing. I

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Speaker 1: love it incredible. First of all, very healthy experience are

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Speaker 1: gone through here, very healthy reaction to a necessary thing.

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Speaker 1: And that's great that y'all are so supportive of each other.

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Speaker 1: I know, what sweet, what a sweet husband you have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that Let's see, that was March eighth,

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Speaker 1: and you said three weeks, so it's coming up on time. Heidi.

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Speaker 1: We can't wait for your gates to be breached. I

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Speaker 1: know it's gonna be amazing after all your waiting, right,

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Speaker 1: you know it'll be like it'll be like the first

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Speaker 1: time I'll look. The pedals are great, but the stem

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Speaker 1: is looking for action. I guess the stem has a

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Speaker 1: lot to recommended. Oh, I'm so excited that she wrote this.

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Speaker 1: She's so happy. More people should write body poems. It's

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Speaker 1: so fun, right, I'm telling you. Rhyming is so fun.

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Speaker 1: I guess we should write some. Yeah, I guess we should.

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Speaker 1: We will try to write a body poem about how

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Speaker 1: much we love all of you, yes, and share it

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Speaker 1: with you. Yeah. Well, we'll assume we have your concept

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Speaker 1: we're going to say. I mean, you know, we're not

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Speaker 1: going to say anything. You know, we'll just be talking

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Speaker 1: about the palpitations of our hearts. True, whenever we get

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Speaker 1: a new email, because that's true. It is very exciting,

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Speaker 1: and we get, you know, so multiple times a day

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Speaker 1: our hearts palpitate, and not just for the usual reasons

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Speaker 1: of too much sodium and not enough exercise. Right, and

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Speaker 1: then we like screaming across the house. We gotta do one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got another message. I know, it never stops being exciting,

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Speaker 1: no matter how many thousands and thousands of emails pour

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Speaker 1: in by the hour, it still gets very exciting. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we do get a lot. I know we

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Speaker 1: have not had a chance to respond to all of you.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even had a chance to read all of them.

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Speaker 1: Here on the show. We're going to try and do

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Speaker 1: another one of these soon. Um, so please keep sending

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Speaker 1: him in because we really too love getting him. And

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Speaker 1: when we do read every single one ourselves. We don't

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Speaker 1: have our assistant do it. That's right. We don't have

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Speaker 1: an our assistant can't read that's right. He's a dog. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you all so much for the beautiful mess. We

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Speaker 1: were so happy to be reading all of these and

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Speaker 1: learning from you and uh expanding our knowledge and being

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Speaker 1: corrected about pronunciations, which is so important. What did I

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Speaker 1: say in the last episode when we were when I

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Speaker 1: said Australia and France would never allow us back in.

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Speaker 1: I said, the Scots will let us in. Then they can.

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Speaker 1: They can take it. Maybe they know we're wrong, but

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Speaker 1: they laugh at us with us, you know, positively, right,

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Speaker 1: that's true. We do have a couple of Scottish fans

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Speaker 1: and they're like, come visit and I will your couch.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, if you would like to be a part

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Speaker 1: of our next listener mail episode, or if you just

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Speaker 1: want to reach out and say hi and make our

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Speaker 1: hearts palpitate, um, you can do it. Our email address

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Speaker 1: is ridict Romance at gmail dot com. That's right, or

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Speaker 1: you can always message us on Twitter or Instagram. I'm

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Speaker 1: at Oh great, it's Eli, I'm at Dianamite Boom, and

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Speaker 1: the show itself is at ridic Romance right. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much again for tuning in. We can't wait to hear

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Speaker 1: from you more. We can't break to bring you our

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Speaker 1: new episodes next week, so stay tuned and we'll catch

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Speaker 1: it in love you bye, so long. Friends, it's time

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Speaker 1: to go. Thanks for listening to our show. Tell your

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