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Speaker 1: Coming up on to Get Loud Podcasts Presentedbody Seek Where

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Speaker 1: to Go through the Draft in the NFCS. We got

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Speaker 1: a special guest coming on a rookie report on Mikey sand.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about it.

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Speaker 1: I got how you doing, everybody? It is to Get

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Speaker 1: Loud Podcasts Presentybody Seek Meek the official ticket partner of

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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders. That's smoot. I'm Jakes. What's up man?

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Speaker 2: I'm just ready to get loud?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to get loud?

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Speaker 2: And quiet?

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Speaker 3: Mouths don't get feded. That's what I was always told.

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Speaker 3: Day baby wants some food. What they do he cries?

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Speaker 2: I cried, mouth doesn't get feed in there. So normally

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Speaker 2: we're here on a Monday, yep, a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit later in the week. What do you do next weekend?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it's Memorial Day week.

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Speaker 1: On weekend.

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Speaker 3: You know, I like to really show my love to

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Speaker 3: the military, because you know, that's where all my charity

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Speaker 3: and to the military. Every time I see anybody that served,

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Speaker 3: I always tell them thank you absolutely, and I tell

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Speaker 3: him thank you not for just going out there and

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Speaker 3: putting your life on the labe, but thank you for

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Speaker 3: giving me the ability to hang out at bars and

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Speaker 3: have a normal life. Thank you, all right forgiving me

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Speaker 3: the ability to go to the waterfront and drink everything

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Speaker 3: they got over there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for giving me the ability to.

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Speaker 3: Go to my daughter's basketball game. These are the small things.

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Speaker 3: I think we need to just come down sometime and

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Speaker 3: really thank people.

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Speaker 2: You are of real heroes, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Annapolis this weekend with the girls, somebody

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Speaker 1: right there next to the Naval Academy, So it'll be

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Speaker 1: cool to be around people that serve our country on

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Speaker 1: a weekend where they deserve to be honored, which is

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Speaker 1: honestly every weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you.

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Speaker 1: Well when you talk about respect, Yeah, a few players

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Speaker 1: in the NFL more than me than you.

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Speaker 2: Thank I appreciate it. You and time, just me and

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Speaker 2: Tom you and all right, I got you.

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Speaker 1: There was a rookie symposium out in LA a few

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Speaker 1: days ago and it was Tom and it was Jay

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Speaker 1: Z and they were giving rookies advice, particularly Tom, who

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Speaker 1: was saying, listen, what you have to do is And

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Speaker 1: I thought this was pretty prescient where he said I

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Speaker 1: treated every day and I believe him, Yeah, like every practice,

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Speaker 1: Like it was huge and I did this for twenty years,

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Speaker 1: so whenever I got to the super Bowl, it was

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Speaker 2: Just another game. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I understand him like that because one thing Coach

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Speaker 3: Gibbs said he loved about me.

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Speaker 2: He was, I just love the practice, man, and.

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Speaker 1: Most every guy done.

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Speaker 3: I say, most players dread it practice because they feel

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Speaker 3: like the reward ain't there. And I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 3: happy to be here. Not only am I happy to

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Speaker 3: here as a rookie, Man, how do you maintain this

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Speaker 3: level of play? He said, practice gotta be as hard

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Speaker 3: as the game. So therefore you get in the game,

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Speaker 3: the game becomes a routine, It becomes easy, It becomes

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Speaker 3: an afterthought. The only thing differ between practice in the game,

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Speaker 3: the cameras and a thou hundred thousand people. Other than that,

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Speaker 3: the football and the intensity is the same. And he

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Speaker 3: like he told me, I said, man, you kept this

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Speaker 3: He was like, what's my backup name? Not like I

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Speaker 2: Don't even have practice.

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Speaker 3: So they go, they go to thing of it, like

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Speaker 1: That's right. So one thing Tom mentioned, and this is

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Speaker 1: an interesting question I think because social media now is

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Speaker 1: it was. So he was saying, look, it's okay to

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Speaker 1: brand yourself. That's part of the game. Now. You want

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Speaker 3: Team and you get away from what matters, what got

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Speaker 3: you here. All right, Everybody so caught up in this brand.

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Speaker 2: School, they're like, yeah, I gotta get this this brand

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Speaker 3: Man, stop it right, Like, you can't be a brand

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Speaker 3: unless you go out and perform right, perform become before

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Speaker 3: the brand. Let let other people build your brand. I

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Speaker 3: always tell people, if you building your brand, you probably

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Speaker 3: broke business. Yeah, it's just simple as that. Like, you

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Speaker 3: got brand builders, let them do that. You need to

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Speaker 3: go work that's what he's telling them. And we've seen

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Speaker 3: I ain't got not one commercial nothing. He wanted to

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Speaker 3: guys like Baker Mayfield before he did anything in his league,

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Speaker 3: he got nine commercials, right, all right? Well guess what

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Speaker 3: fail from glory? Now he bounced back no commercial? You

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Speaker 3: see where he like, Yeah, I'm just focused on what

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Speaker 3: I got to do to stay in this league.

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Speaker 2: You see it all the time.

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Speaker 3: Even Pat Mahons didn't really start doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: That's true. That's true.

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Speaker 2: So the real.

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Speaker 3: Greats they kind of stay away and they let us

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Speaker 3: Like Terry mclawin fans build his brand. You ain't never

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Speaker 3: heard out of Terry. You know what I need to

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Speaker 3: go get this for the the Terry Mclaw and conld

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Speaker 3: over there like you don't hear any of that. So

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Speaker 3: I always could tell when guys are more about the

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Speaker 1: So how hard would it have been for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean to make it in this social media air

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Speaker 1: like today, because people love being around you. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: love reaching out to you, and that would have happened

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Speaker 1: in mass.

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Speaker 2: I hate to tell you this.

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Speaker 3: I invented he LUN's must app that he bought x

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Speaker 2: You invented it. I invented it in college. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is what happened. I started smooth smack dot com.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say this real quick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see it, Yes, I see you got a

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Speaker 1: So Anna is our producer. We got a micro from

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Speaker 2: What you guys say about that? Am Hi everyone?

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Speaker 1: Not much? This is why I'm the producer. I don't

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Speaker 3: No, I'm asking do you think I invented the first

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Speaker 3: platform for Twitter or not?

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Speaker 2: And all right, here we go. Let me tell your story.

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Speaker 3: When I was in school my junior year, me and

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Speaker 3: one of my classmates, he was like, man, you love

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Speaker 2: The Internet the information.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this was in two thousand, right, He's like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: How about we we come up with this platform.

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Speaker 3: So I came up with the platform of smooppack dot

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Speaker 2: Really like smoop smack dot com went on for like

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Speaker 2: three four years. Is it not this bone skeleton of

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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 3: It is and all I had to do. See if

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if I would have named it Twitter,

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Speaker 3: The bones for it before everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Take that e line. Take that take that you really

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Speaker 1: I did that. What I'm telling you just about spinning

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Speaker 3: And just what you know, how many times I'm like

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Speaker 2: I supposed to be on a Twitter like it hunts me.

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Speaker 3: It hunts me that I did not, because I called

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Speaker 3: The first thing I did. I shouldn't have named it

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Something that says everybody that

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Speaker 1: Man, that's all right. You still did a lot of

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Speaker 3: And that's just how it goes. And I think I

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 1: I would because I ain't.

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Speaker 3: I ain't listen to sports talk radio when I played

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Speaker 1: And you're rarely gonna hear anything that you like.

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Speaker 3: You know, like they're gonna be taking shots at you,

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Speaker 1: It's like an online review because if something great happened,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can't wait to go on and say

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Speaker 3: And I always say the team that goes into the

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Speaker 2: They don't draft for need.

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Speaker 3: They drift best play available on our board, regardless of position.

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Speaker 1: That is true.

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Speaker 3: Everything I seen them do is all right, we need

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Speaker 3: So the thing about it is, if your team depends

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Speaker 3: it's still Daniel Jones. Did Daniel Jones get a whipping

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, but guess what do he has anybody? Because Sakon

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Speaker 2: But did I think they got better?

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Speaker 1: That's true, and I read this stat earlier, is that

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Speaker 2: Think about the I thought Jalen Hyatt.

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Speaker 3: See, they go a rookie. They needed a position. Last year,

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Speaker 1: The Giants kind of needed to help, Like I like

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Speaker 1: They definitely did the we lost this guy. Let's draft

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just don't that day how you do

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Speaker 1: What is this ceiling for Daniel j even with great

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Speaker 2: I told you about football name recognition.

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Speaker 3: It's something about a name like John Lway and Joe

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Speaker 1: Comes out, Hey, Fred will have that? Why that transmission

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's how appreciate it, mister Daniel Jones. I

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Speaker 3: a Daniel Jones. Like it's I just I think special

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Speaker 1: Instead you say Queen Bee And you know I already know.

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Speaker 2: Like some people, you don't need to say what their

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Speaker 3: That's to say friends, nothing else to say, so name

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Speaker 2: Damn you, Jones. You're living up to your name regularly.

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Speaker 1: How not the Eagles I have to admit I hate

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Speaker 2: I'm so tired of Roseman. Listen knows what he's doing. Now.

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Speaker 2: That's when you say.

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Speaker 3: I respect you, but I don't like right right, you

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Speaker 3: every yeah, I watch you. He does what I call

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Speaker 3: the Madden Draft. He drafts names. He want big school guys.

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Speaker 3: And then when you add a Sakon Barkley to an

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Speaker 3: Not only does that line he got a quarterback. First

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Speaker 3: And then you gotta ask yourself, not just running the ball,

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Speaker 2: The question is I don't think Kudos and hair Roseman

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Speaker 3: The question is do they got the generals because we

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Speaker 3: I hate Philadelphia. I hate to say this, the city

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Speaker 1: QUINNYA Mitchell, great cornerback. And then we were at the

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Speaker 3: They got it, like they fixed what was weak last

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Speaker 1: I know he ain't a little bit here. Yeah yeah, Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: No, let me tell you somebody, Okay, okay, I studied

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Speaker 3: discat have you Washington played basketball?

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Speaker 1: Because he has like fourteen career starts. Like he's just

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Speaker 3: He's just a man child. He's just he's a coach's dream.

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Speaker 3: The one thing about guys that ain't played a lot

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Speaker 3: been playing long enough to collect him. That mean you

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Speaker 3: right now because I get to bill your mentor up. Well,

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Speaker 3: He ran under this dude at three and forty. Listen

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Speaker 2: Yes, he might start off slow because he had to.

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Speaker 3: He's still learning the position. But once he anchors in,

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Speaker 2: They gotta do.

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Speaker 1: So when you think about the Cowboys and everybody's been

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Speaker 2: They have to, they need to or not? What do

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Speaker 3: When they helped, you didn't need no defensive backs linebackers.

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Speaker 3: I still got Michael Parsons and the cold guy. I

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Speaker 3: The only thing we talked about offensive line. They lost

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Speaker 3: Terry Smiths.

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Speaker 3: They brought Zeke back. We know would they couldn't run

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Speaker 3: was a team ready to be baked. The best teams

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Speaker 3: more can I tell you? Like the draft is a plus.

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Speaker 3: If we get two players out of here that contribute

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Speaker 3: two play in them playoff games to get us over

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Speaker 2: He hasn't proven that he can right now.

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Speaker 3: If you ask anybody which quarterback you trust in the

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Speaker 1: It's got to be a mental thing, right Or is

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Speaker 1: there some sort of tool that he's missing in his

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Speaker 3: No, I just think he's more potent as a runner

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I understand the year.

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Speaker 3: He got hurt that you're coming back from him. I'm

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Speaker 2: Won this game.

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Speaker 3: I want him to use his legs more. He's a

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Speaker 2: I love him, great person.

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Speaker 3: I just can't say great player yet now he hadn't

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Speaker 1: We're hoping we see a lot of great players coming

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447
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Speaker 1: yeah on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Mike singers still, Hey, listen, I love him

459
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Speaker 3: because you know what, the day after we draft.

460
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Speaker 2: Him, he jumped in the DM, did he Yeah?

461
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Speaker 3: Man, he's showing love to the veteran to the Ogs,

462
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Speaker 3: and we introduced ourselves. Teach that I couldn't wait to

463
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Speaker 3: see him. Then we came into the building. I got

464
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Speaker 3: a chance to meet him.

465
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Speaker 2: My type of guy, you know, v we see, we

466
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Speaker 2: see eye of eye.

467
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Speaker 3: It's a different it's a different world as a defensive back.

468
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Speaker 3: So I'm really intrigued by what he brings to the table.

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Speaker 1: We get more insight from Isaiah Hall, he is the

470
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Speaker 1: published Wolverine's Wire, a Michigan beat reporter, joins us now

471
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Speaker 1: here on the pod and Isaiah, first of all, thanks

472
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Speaker 1: for being with us. Second of all, what is it

473
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Speaker 1: that makes Mike so special? He can do a little

474
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Speaker 1: bit of everything. Yeah, but the last couple of seasons

475
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Speaker 1: he was unbelievable at Michigan.

476
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Speaker 4: Well, really, ultimately it starts with his leadership because that.

477
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Speaker 5: He was one of the guys that when when people

478
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Speaker 5: talk about Michigan's kind of turnaround. Now, Michigan didn't completely

479
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Speaker 5: fall off. It just had really one bad year. It

480
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Speaker 5: was twenty twenty, the COVID year. But they went from

481
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Speaker 5: being a decent team to a bad team to a

482
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Speaker 5: great team. And everyone always talks about Aiden Hutchinson as

483
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Speaker 5: being the guy who turned things around. But Mikey Sayinris

484
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Speaker 5: still was one of those guys who was actually pivotal.

485
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Speaker 5: He was he was leading those player led meetings. He

486
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Speaker 5: got everyone on the same page. And that was when

487
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Speaker 5: he was a wide receiver. He wasn't exactly a productive

488
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Speaker 5: player at that time, but he exudes leadership and I

489
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Speaker 5: think that that is one of the things, Like he's

490
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Speaker 5: a guy that people galvanize around and he leads by

491
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Speaker 5: example as well. He's a guy that was always in

492
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Speaker 5: the weight room. He doesn't look like a big guy,

493
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Speaker 5: but he at the same time like he was a

494
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Speaker 5: leader in that weight room.

495
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Speaker 2: Uh.

496
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Speaker 5: And then his play on the field. But he finally

497
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Speaker 5: got his opportunity. You saw when he when he switched

498
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Speaker 5: over from wide receiver to defensive back. Everyone just saw

499
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Speaker 5: a guy that was just working harder than everyone else.

500
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Speaker 5: And with that, I mean, he really kind of set

501
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Speaker 5: the stage and set the example for what all these

502
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Speaker 5: other players.

503
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Speaker 1: Need to do.

504
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Speaker 5: I can tell you this, out of everyone that Michigan

505
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Speaker 5: is losing to the NFL this this offseason. While people

506
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Speaker 5: would probably pick JJ McCarthy number one because he's a quarterback,

507
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Speaker 5: you know, that's a one of one. If you could

508
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Speaker 5: say any you could keep any one non quarterback position

509
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Speaker 5: for the next year or for the foreseeable everyone would

510
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Speaker 5: say Mikey Sainras still and how often do you hear.

511
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Speaker 4: That about a nickelback.

512
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Speaker 5: So it's it's he's a fan favorite. Gratiated himself extremely

513
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Speaker 5: well to the fan base. In a large part it

514
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 5: was because of his leadership. Everyone knew that he was

515
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Speaker 5: the guy leading the charge for the defense really the

516
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Speaker 5: last couple of years for Michigan.

517
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Speaker 2: That's something I love to hear.

518
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Speaker 3: And you talked about some early in their conversation, like

519
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Speaker 3: I always judge players not by the success but by

520
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Speaker 3: the failures. And you got a chance to watch him

521
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Speaker 3: not kind of blossom at wide receiver and be what

522
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Speaker 3: he wanted to be at the wide receiver. Did you

523
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Speaker 3: ever have a conversation with him during that time when

524
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Speaker 3: he was going through.

525
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Speaker 2: I should I trade positions? Should I stay at wide receiver?

526
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Speaker 3: You know, I always like to see what was going

527
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Speaker 3: on in athlete's head when an uncertainty is hanging over

528
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Speaker 3: their head.

529
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Speaker 5: I'm sure we have probably had that conversation. I can't

530
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Speaker 5: recall exactly, but it's the thing about it was is

531
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Speaker 5: he when he came in as a wide receiver, and

532
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Speaker 5: keep in mind he was a three star. Yeah, he

533
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Speaker 5: was originally committed to Virginia Tech as a defensive back

534
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Speaker 5: and he flipped late to Michigan and early enrolled, and

535
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Speaker 5: he was a hype beast coming in and that's pretty

536
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Speaker 5: rare for a three star. So all that entire spring

537
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 5: of twenty nineteen, all we were hearing was, Mikey Sandra

538
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 5: still catches everything that's thrown at him. He's got these

539
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 5: incredible hands, He's an insane route runner. He can do

540
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 5: just about everything that you want. He's going to be

541
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Speaker 5: an instant impact guy in this class. And Michigan fans

542
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 5: were a lot more excited about another wide receiver in

543
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Speaker 5: the class named Giles Jackson, who ended up transpring to Washington.

544
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Speaker 5: But with all the hype that Giles Jackson had for

545
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Speaker 5: such a long time being a higher rated four star

546
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Speaker 5: with Speedster all spring and into the summer, in the

547
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Speaker 5: fall camp, it was Mikey Sandr's still, Mikey Sandra's still,

548
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Speaker 5: Mikey Sindri's still And then he really didn't see him

549
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Speaker 5: right like he And that was kind of the case

550
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Speaker 5: for the next couple of years. Yeah, he'd have a

551
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 5: big play here and there. He'd twenty twenty one, he

552
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 5: laid out for a really impressive catch against Nebraska. He

553
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Speaker 5: had a touchdown against Michigan State and the loss that year.

554
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Speaker 4: But this person v ppearance.

555
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Speaker 5: It was never like a mention of, yeah, you should

556
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Speaker 5: switch positions Mikey. It was kind of like the staff

557
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 5: and him behind closed doors going into twenty twenty two,

558
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 5: is like, why don't we.

559
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Speaker 4: Try this out?

560
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Speaker 5: Because Jim Harbaugh always had kind of a pension for

561
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Speaker 5: being able to see a guy that could play on

562
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Speaker 5: the other side of the ball one way or another. Yeah,

563
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Speaker 5: he did it with Richard Sherman when he was at Stanford. Yeah,

564
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Speaker 5: and obviously it's similar results here, Like that's one of

565
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 5: the things that he's kind of been known for. So

566
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Speaker 5: all of that kind of happened behind closed doors. Yeah,

567
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Speaker 5: Mikey was definitely frustrated. He definitely wasn't feeling like he

568
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Speaker 5: was living up to the potential, and you could sense

569
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Speaker 5: a little bit of that frustration, But it was never

570
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Speaker 5: like a like, man, you're really failing. You really need

571
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Speaker 5: to figure it out. He was always kind of like

572
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Speaker 5: a whatever the team needs me to do to help.

573
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Speaker 5: That's what I'll do. And one of the things that

574
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Speaker 5: he would say to us in the media constantly is

575
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Speaker 5: if if they asked me to play nose tack, I'll

576
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Speaker 5: do it like That's the type of mentality he had.

577
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Speaker 5: It was never like a what can I do to

578
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 5: maximize my own capability. It was whatever the team needs.

579
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Speaker 5: If they need me to play nose tackle, if they

580
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Speaker 5: need me to play center, if they need me to

581
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Speaker 5: play quarterback, I will do any of those things.

582
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Speaker 4: And i might not know much about it, but I'll

583
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Speaker 4: figure it out.

584
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Speaker 5: And that always has been his mentality, and that's why

585
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Speaker 5: it was not terribly surprising to see that he had

586
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Speaker 5: the type of success he had once he switched over

587
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Speaker 5: to the defensive side of the wall.

588
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Speaker 1: Isaiah, he has all sorts of individual athletic traits, but

589
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Speaker 1: one of the best compliments I think you can give

590
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: to a defender is he is always around the football.

591
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: Is always around the football.

592
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

593
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Speaker 4: It was one of those things in the Rose Bowl

594
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Speaker 4: when things were kind of on the line.

595
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Speaker 5: I'm on the sidelines because I'm a photographer, and I

596
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 5: laughed with another photographer. We said, all right, well, it's

597
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 5: about time for the patented mike Mikey Sandra's still turn

598
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Speaker 5: over the game to happen because.

599
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Speaker 4: That's like what you expected.

600
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Speaker 5: You expected that if things were kind of going dire,

601
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 5: he was going to find a way to get to

602
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Speaker 5: the football. You saw it in the Maryland game. Michigan's

603
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: defense did not have the best day. It was their

604
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 5: tied for their worst game all season long as far

605
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Speaker 5: as points, points allowed, And you would you would think, oh, Alabama,

606
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Speaker 5: Washington one of those teams.

607
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: Nope, it was it was Maryland.

608
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Speaker 5: But every time that Maryland had the ball in their

609
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Speaker 5: hands and was trying to drive the field with a

610
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 5: chance to tie the game, Mikey Sanders still both times

611
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 5: comes down with an interception. You look at the Ohio

612
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 5: State game, he makes a big hit on this past

613
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 5: year on Trevion Henderson. You look the year before, he

614
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 5: makes the games saving play. I mean, Michigan was up

615
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 5: and everything, but Ohio State, with an opportunity, opportunity to

616
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 5: get within striking distance, throws what looks to be a

617
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 5: surefire touchdown to cave Stover the big tight end, and

618
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 5: out of nowhere, Mikey Sander still comes and knocks the

619
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Speaker 5: ball way running from the other side of the field.

620
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 5: He's just got that knack. And then he's the one

621
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 5: who ended up calling game against against Washington in the

622
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 5: National Championship game. Washington with that again, that opportunity to

623
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: get within striking distance, you got Michael Pennox looking for

624
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 5: his one of his talented whiteouts, and Mikey Saint Rustill

625
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: jumps in front of the ball and takes it back.

626
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: Almost the whole way.

627
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 5: That's just kind of who he is. You know, he's

628
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 5: gonna make that big game changing play.

629
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Speaker 2: Uh.

630
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Speaker 5: He did it on almost every single game last year.

631
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 5: It was really impressive how much he just felt like,

632
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 5: all right, well the game game, you know, maybe feels

633
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: a little bit dicey here for a second, and then

634
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 5: Mikey Santra's still steps in and makes that big play.

635
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, speaking today, I think

636
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: that has a lot to do with the people that's

637
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 3: have been around him. And when I think about him,

638
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: when I watched him, I was like, he reminds me

639
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 3: of a faster uh come on Tampa Bay und bar

640
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Speaker 3: run da Barber. Oh, he reminded me of a faster

641
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Speaker 3: run day Barber dre blind somebody that the ball finds them,

642
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: even like d Hall, where the balls fired, they magnetically

643
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: attracted to the ball. Now, I got to ask you this,

644
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 3: with him having Jim Harbaugh, a pro coach, they went

645
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: to college, that's back in the pros. With him having

646
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald defensive coordinated, that's a pro coach that's in

647
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: the pros. Now, how much do you think that's gonna

648
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: help him hit the ground running when it comes to

649
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: the pros.

650
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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna help it. Excuse me, I mean

651
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 5: it's gonna help him mentally.

652
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Speaker 2: Right.

653
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 4: Michigan ran a pro style program.

654
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Speaker 5: I've often heard that when't a lot of these players

655
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 5: arrive for their NFL mini camps and everything, that Michigan

656
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 5: players are ahead of the curve because they know exactly

657
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 5: what is supposed to happen on a day to day basis.

658
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 4: They're not wide eyed in everything because when they.

659
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 5: Get there that they're Every single part of what Michigan

660
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 5: did was done in an NFL fashion. It was done

661
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 5: in the same scheduling, the same style. Right, So they

662
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: come in with just kind of the already having a

663
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: pretty good idea of here's what I need to do.

664
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Speaker 5: And I think that The best place that you can

665
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 5: see that happen is not necessarily in the high end

666
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Speaker 5: guys that end up going to the NFL. It's a

667
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Speaker 5: lot of those, a lot of those guys who go

668
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Speaker 5: undrafted that end up making rosters. But you know, Sean McCune,

669
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Speaker 5: who was with the Cowboys just got signed with the Lions.

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Speaker 5: You look at Josh Mattellus, who was undrafted by the Vikings,

671
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 5: was a free agent by the Vikings, and then he's

672
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Speaker 5: a team captain there now. So I think that that

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Speaker 5: actually speaks to it, and I think it certainly helps

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Speaker 5: for the commander's cause that you get a guy that

675
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Speaker 5: was kind of the leader of the program. I think

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Speaker 5: that they're out of everyone that was in the in

677
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Speaker 5: that room, everyone that was in Shambeckler Hall. It could

678
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Speaker 5: be Blake Korum, could be JJ McCarthy. You know, it

679
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Speaker 5: kind of doesn't really matter who. I think that Mikey

680
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Speaker 5: Sainraus still is the most NFL esque guy in the

681
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Speaker 5: terms of he's the biggest leader.

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Speaker 4: He's the one that exudes the you.

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Speaker 5: Know, the confidence, he's the example. He's teachable, but also

684
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Speaker 5: helps bring other guys along.

685
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Speaker 4: Like it's he was.

686
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Speaker 5: Always a guy that you'd hear younger defensive backs, younger

687
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Speaker 5: even younger wide receivers when he was a receiver, though

688
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Speaker 5: he wasn't necessarily, you know, a stat monster out there,

689
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Speaker 5: that he was helping bring other guys along. So he knows,

690
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Speaker 5: like the whole wrote, what you do on a daily basis,

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Speaker 5: what you do with your teammates, how you interact with

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Speaker 5: your teammates, how you interact with your coaches, how it

693
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Speaker 5: all kind of works. And I think that he learned

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Speaker 5: a lot of that obviously from Jim Harbaugh and his

695
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Speaker 5: other coaches and being able to be in those NFL systems,

696
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Speaker 5: And certainly it's going to help having Ben in an

697
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Speaker 5: NFL defense the last several years, right, Like he wasn't

698
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Speaker 5: in the Mike McDonald's defense, but he was with Jesse

699
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Speaker 5: Minterer the following year is when he switched over.

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Speaker 4: So like, you know, having Ben with Jesse.

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Speaker 5: Minter, who's obviously now the Chargers defensive coordinator, who's running

702
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Speaker 5: Wink Martindale's system from both the Raves and the Giants,

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's just gonna be a huge help for

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Speaker 5: him as far as it comes to acclimating.

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Speaker 1: I think you heard the quote from Nick Saban where

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Speaker 1: he said, pound for pound, this the best player in

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Speaker 1: the Yeah. Is he right?

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Speaker 5: I mean I think he's He's the type of guy

709
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 5: that can do just about anything that you ask him to.

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00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 5: I mean he always got a clamor to move back

711
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 5: to receiver just for like a series or two as well.

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00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 5: I mean he can he can do those things. I

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Speaker 5: think that the highest praise isn't necessarily from Nick Saban,

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00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 5: it comes courtesy of Jalen McMillan, the the wide wide

715
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Speaker 5: receiver for Washington who went.

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Speaker 4: In this this past draft.

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Speaker 5: He was asked at the combine, who you know, out

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Speaker 5: of everyone that you've faced in your college career, who's

719
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Speaker 5: the one that troubled you the most? And he's like,

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Speaker 5: it was Mikey Sanders. Still He's like that guy pissed

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Speaker 5: me off. Like it's like he knew everything that we

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Speaker 5: were going to try to do and I couldn't really

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Speaker 5: do anything about it. And that I think that's the

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Speaker 5: best fit. When you have a guy that also understands

725
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Speaker 5: what the route trees look like, has had that experience

726
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Speaker 5: and being a wide receiver, is that he's gonna go

727
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Speaker 5: up against a lot of wide receivers and they're gonna

728
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Speaker 5: get really frustrated because he knows all of their tactics

729
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 5: to try to get open he knows, uh has a

730
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Speaker 5: pretty good idea what their routes look like. He's not

731
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Speaker 5: gonna get fooled too much by the types of things

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Speaker 5: that they're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And I mean you saw that in that National Championship

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Speaker 5: game against McMillan in particular, there was a there was

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Speaker 5: a moment where it was third down and it was

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Speaker 5: like third and I think like seven or something like that.

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Speaker 5: They so they have this little screen pass and they

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Speaker 5: get it to McMillan in an open space. He's just

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Speaker 5: got to shake one guy. Unfortunately for him, the guy

741
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Speaker 5: was Mikey Saberstill, who wraps him up and makes the

742
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Speaker 5: like this devastating open field tackle just completely takes him down.

743
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Speaker 5: And it's it's one of those things where you look

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00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 5: at that technique and it's like, yeah, it's hard to

745
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 5: really say that a guy can be better than that.

746
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Speaker 5: But on top for that right position, didn't fall for

747
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Speaker 5: any kind of moves that McMillan was trying to make

748
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Speaker 5: to shake him. Because I think that you're looking probably

749
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Speaker 5: at seventy five percent of the time, McMillan at least

750
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Speaker 5: gets a couple of yards out of that, But no,

751
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Speaker 5: he went down right where he got it, so that

752
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 5: that kind of tells you how technically sound, how smart,

753
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 5: and how physical Mikey Singer still is.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Some people would say the golden age of the Wolverines

756
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Speaker 3: might be over with JJ McCarthy the Savior leaving, Blake

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Speaker 3: carm gone and Mikey Sandy Steele and we got a

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Speaker 3: lot of Washington fans that, you know, the college fans.

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Speaker 2: Of the Wolverines. Is it over right now?

760
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Speaker 3: Because Jim Hoppeye is gone in Ohio, status is packing

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Speaker 3: them in?

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Speaker 2: Is it over right now? For michiganized it's just the beginning.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it's over.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, the Big Ten expanding is going to complicate things.

765
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 5: Michigan schedule gets a lot more difficult. Texas comes to

766
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Speaker 5: the Big House as part of a non conference slate.

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Speaker 5: Right now, I look at it and I say, who's

768
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: the quarterback right now? I would slate Alex Orgie, who's

769
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Speaker 5: a kind of very similar to Jalen Milroe at Alabama.

770
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Speaker 5: He actually was the scout team Jalen Milroe in preparation

771
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Speaker 5: for the Rose Bowl. But we haven't really seen him

772
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Speaker 5: except for he would come in and run like a

773
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 5: quick wildcat package almost every game last year. If they

774
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Speaker 5: can figure out the quarterback, and I still feel like

775
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Speaker 5: maybe they need to add another receiver or two from

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Speaker 5: the transfer portal if they can find a good one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's no reason why they can't be really

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Speaker 5: good and maybe even championship caliber. There's maybe four or

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00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 5: five guys who could be first round draft picks from

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Speaker 5: this team next year. You look at Colston Loveland, who's

781
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 5: the best tight end in the country. You look at

782
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Speaker 5: Will Johnson, who might be the best cornerback in the country.

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Speaker 5: You've got Mason Graham, who's the best defensive tackle in

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Speaker 5: the country. Who's the maybe second or third best defensive

785
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Speaker 5: tackle in the country. Oh, it's the guy that's right

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Speaker 5: next to him in Kenneth Grant. And then you've got

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Speaker 5: a guy like Jayshon Varrom who was from your backyard,

788
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Speaker 5: went to Saint Francis Academy and Baltimore and then he

789
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 5: ended up being at Maryland for two years. He transfers

790
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 5: over and they feel internally like this, we just got

791
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: ourselves another first round pick. They've got a ton of

792
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 5: talent from front to back on the defense, I mean,

793
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Speaker 5: it is solid. They've really bolstered their talent in the secondary.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that anyone's going to make up for

795
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Speaker 5: what Samer still was able to do, but they feel

796
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 5: really good about Zeke Barry, so offensively is kind of

797
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: where the questions lie. But they still have Donovan Edwards too.

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Speaker 5: You've seen have big plays against Ohio State and Penn

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Speaker 5: State and in the National Championship game. They like I

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Speaker 5: mentioned Coleston Loveland, the offensive line should still be among

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Speaker 5: the best in the Big Ten. So I don't think

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Speaker 5: it's necessarily going to be a big fall off if

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Speaker 5: they do fall off, but there is certainly an opportunity

804
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Speaker 5: for them to make a playoff run again, assuming they

805
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Speaker 5: find that quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, that's my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about. Kobayashi.

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Speaker 2: Do people remember him because Joey Chestnut, that's the only

837
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Speaker 2: person I like.

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Speaker 1: Saying I remember Tom Brady, but I don't remember Joe.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you that before there was Joey Chestnut. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was the sixth time Mustard Belt champion. He's giving

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Speaker 1: up the sport, he's retiring, and now he says it's crazy.

842
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: He has to repair his brain and gut because he's

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00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: done some damage, which is not shocking. But also he

844
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Speaker 1: can't smell food anymore, doesn't get hungry.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you shouldn't baby to smell food

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Speaker 3: no more. You ate it as a sport. First of all,

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Speaker 3: let's tell you how gluttonous we are on this earth. Yes,

848
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: when you turn eating into a sport, right, I've always

849
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: looked at it like you're not really like me at

850
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: the lead? Yes, And they say no, we are at

851
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: the least, and I was like, they believe. But how

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00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: would like if I'm going home and my girl want

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Speaker 3: to introduce me to her father and I'd be like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm a pro. He'd be like, okay, you're pro. What

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Speaker 2: I'm a pro?

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Speaker 1: Eater takes a special woman.

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Speaker 2: He'll be like, you got to you gotta dish this loser. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I'm a pro eater. I eat for a living, That's

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Speaker 3: what I do. And now, because I've eaten so much

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Speaker 3: while people out here are hungry, I have to repair

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Speaker 3: my gut, butt and brain because I'm eating so much. Right,

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Speaker 3: what happens to the I want I want them to

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Speaker 3: do a detail on Netflix or something.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh on.

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Speaker 3: What the next five days after eating contest looks like?

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Speaker 3: I want to know, you know, because I'm an athlete,

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Speaker 3: and I want to know because I know how I

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Speaker 3: feel at the game, and I know how we just

869
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: body aches, soul aches, mine aches.

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Speaker 1: Their body has to be wrecked. Also, I talked to

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Speaker 1: Joy Chestnut one time. I interviewed him a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: and surprisingly, because you would think you just eat whatever

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Speaker 1: you want, and he was like no, he said, I

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: have one cheap meal a week. The rest of the time.

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00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: He's super regimented because this is what he does, this

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Speaker 1: is his life.

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Speaker 2: This and you an eater.

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Speaker 1: It's not like on the weekends, I eat a lot

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Speaker 1: of hot dogs. You know, he does this all the time.

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Speaker 3: I'm a small Yeah, I like why Okay, I go

881
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 3: around the world and drink wine.

882
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 2: But I don't do it in the contest. That's called

883
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: a bar, that's called a local bar. That's a drinking contest.

884
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: Eating eating?

885
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: How do I supposed to like tell my kids, you

886
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: know what, you'll never get nowhere in this life with

887
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: that hard work and dedication.

888
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: But dad, you're a pro eater, hard work, dedication.

889
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: Do as I say, not as I do?

890
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: Like, how do you rebound from there? How do my kid?

891
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: Probably eating for a living like you're nothing?

892
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm threeing old lifetime in eating contests? What I'm professional? What? What?

893
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: What? What was the eating contest?

894
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: I had two hot dog getting contests, one aureo eating

895
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: content these days, so let me ask you if there

896
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: was one food right you haven't eaten in twenty four hours?

897
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm starving. Here's an eating contest. What's the

898
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: one food you would choose where you think you could win?

899
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: Like I brought this up and and I almost threw

900
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: up earlier.

901
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: Devilish eggs. I like my eggs, devilish. I like my

902
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: eggs devilish. I could do a wing eating contest. I

903
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: have done one with spice and wings how to go

904
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: didn't go well for me.

905
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: I am a Southerner and we love spicy food. I

906
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: could eat it, but after you go wing for wing

907
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: for wan. Yeah, and then I was foolish enough to

908
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: grab the milk. Oh. I had an mustad but cotton mouth.

909
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 3: I could could not continue to eat this eating contest,

910
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: and I felt gluttonous afterwards, like come on, man, I

911
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: just played around with like sixty three wings and I.

912
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: Left meat on them, you know, And you're like, man,

913
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: I could have enjoyed this. Shame on me.

914
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: So I don't know, Like I think we should do

915
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: a do a net Flit documentary on him and see what,

916
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: like do you turn after you retired from eating? You

917
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: just say, you know what, I'm a vegetarian.

918
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: I have a quick question. Yeah, what determines one complete wing?

919
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: They have judges for that.

920
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I will say Jenks has a pretty great

921
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: story about wings.

922
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh god, yes, that's how you know?

923
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: Tell us?

924
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So, friend of mine and he loves wings, but

925
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: if he saw a wing unfinished.

926
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: He would eat it.

927
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about a wing untouched. I'm talking

928
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: about yes, and he'd be like come on, man, and

929
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: he grab it and so I was like, you know,

930
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I would do that,

931
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: but I remember once he was dating a girl. We

932
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: were all out together watching football. We had wings and

933
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: I got some wings left over my own plate, and

934
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I know, he's never seen this. Yeah,

935
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: And so I just waited.

936
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: You set him up. He loves I don't know, so

937
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: you've been I'm getting stuff.

938
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: Man just pushed over a little bit. And so finally,

939
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: and this is one of my close friends, one of

940
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: the best people.

941
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: Nickname Landfill.

942
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: It's not and he fantastic human being. But I see

943
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: him go, James, come on, man, grabs it, you knew it.

944
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: And as soon as he put it in his mouth,

945
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: his girlfriend she goes, how come she do? And I

946
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: was just like, well, incredible, incredible.

947
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: Listen his nickname me, nickname is Landfield. Oh that's what

948
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: we call him from now. Because if you can do that,

949
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: he's imagine going to this. I like mine preate. Oh

950
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: just a libit, they like somebody to soften him up

951
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, just a libit. Yeah, just a litt bit.

952
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: All right, No wonder who had that, worry about it.

953
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: Let's pay some bills and then we're gonna fish strong

954
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: on the show. I need to break out it. Retired Eaters,

955
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: are we talking about Seat Geek?

956
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: Come on, come on now, it's official.

957
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: See Geek the official ticketing partner of your Washington Commanders.

958
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: The dealers finalize there the newest member of the Commander's family.

959
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: Got a great family here in ashbrond. If you haven't

960
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: heard the name yet, get used to it. You will

961
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: hear it all year along with you're buying or selling

962
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: tickets to Commander's games, any event in the DMV Seet

963
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: Geek is the place to do it. The new official

964
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: ticketing partner of the Washington Commanders. So, Commanders fans, fan,

965
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about? Because we were

966
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 1: talking about athletes and ads, we brought up.

967
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: Our favorite athlete commercials of all time because I was seeing,

968
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: you know, YouTube is my favorite best friend and I

969
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: was just going through there and I seen this commercial

970
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: for the Michael Vick Experience and see, I can't I'm

971
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: classmates with Mike.

972
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: So we came out together, okay, and.

973
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: They had to commercial when the dude get into the

974
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: like a roller coaster ride, right, and then they just

975
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: dropping in the middle of a football game and they

976
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: doing this, and they doing this, and then you got

977
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: Mike come popping up as a hologram telling them sit

978
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: back and Jordia ride. So it was like I was like, wow,

979
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: that was like that was before his time.

980
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: That commercial right now is twenty three years old.

981
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: God old you are like twenty three years old the

982
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: commercial is. And I was like, that commercial looks good today.

983
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if any commercials today have a commercial

984
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: that good like Mahome's.

985
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: In my Auto.

986
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 2: I like it.

987
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: It's cute, but it ain't the Michael Vick experience. No,

988
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: it ain't that commercial. So we start to go through

989
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: commercials and.

990
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: We both found one. Now we're gonna keep Michael Jordan

991
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: out of this.

992
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: Like Mike, we know it as a class.

993
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 2: The world knows it.

994
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, nobody's gonna compare it to it. He's

995
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: the goat, all right, that's what it is. Mike over here,

996
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: everybody else over here. Now I brought up Charles Barkley

997
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: Love Chuck because Chuck said, you know what, while everybody

998
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 3: out here, I am the best person in the world,

999
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: Chuck switched it out around and comes with, hey, check

1000
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 3: this out, buy my shoes. I ain't your role model.

1001
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: You should not look up to me. I gamble a lot,

1002
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: a lot. I am a flawed human being, buy my shoes,

1003
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: but I ain't your roll model.

1004
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: I thought that was the best. I loved it.

1005
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: What was they got roasted the NB on T and

1006
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: T crew, which is going away, by the way, I'm

1007
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: so so sad about.

1008
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to They have to put them back together,

1009
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: like you would be a fool not to put them

1010
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: back together, like you'll be a fool.

1011
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: It's one of the best, if not the.

1012
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: Best, no question, best studio showing has been for a

1013
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: long time. I think it was Jeff Ross, the Roastmaster.

1014
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: He's roasting the NB and T and T crew a

1015
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: few a few years ago now, and he was roasting

1016
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: Kenny Smith. He goes, Kenny Smith. That sounds like a

1017
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: name that Charles Barkley woul getting for an officer after

1018
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: he got pulled over.

1019
00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: Kenny Smiths. That's why I love the god. I loved

1020
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: Child's Barking commercial. But I think people forget about bow Noose.

1021
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: Oh that was.

1022
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: They forget about bow Noose and him showing up in

1023
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 3: the baseball and then the football and then just people

1024
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: forget about bo Jackson in the big scheme of things.

1025
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: One of the greatest athletes of all time. He just

1026
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: quietly lives his life and that's why I love him.

1027
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 3: Him very sounding like I like guys that are nun

1028
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 3: herschel Walker.

1029
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: I love those guys. Yeah.

1030
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the whole if you know, you know,

1031
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: if you know, you know what I mean. Come on,

1032
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: and little Penny. A lot of people don't remember lit Pennies. Hey,

1033
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 3: I first of all, I love Penny Hardaway and Shock

1034
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: when they was with the Landows. I love those shoes.

1035
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: Those shoes are still selling today. I'll never forget. I

1036
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: came home. My mama had bought me a fresh pear

1037
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: of Penny Hardaways. You know, when you're a child, you

1038
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: just set them up on the dress. Oh they had

1039
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: to glow around him. I wore them to school, went

1040
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: to football practice in high school.

1041
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: Came back to me, Lock, they were stolen. Really listen,

1042
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: they were stolen. I went.

1043
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: I turned into suspect the gadget. I went all around

1044
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 3: the school. Who got my shoes? Who got my shoes?

1045
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: To the point that my mom was like, boy, I

1046
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: buy you another pair of shoes. Don't you worry about that?

1047
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: I was like, Nah, you spent your hard earned money

1048
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: on there, and somebody just took my Penny Hardaways. And

1049
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: until that day, I didn't buy another pair of Pennies

1050
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: until I could buy my own in college.

1051
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: That's when I bought another pair of Penny Hardaways.

1052
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Did you really?

1053
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1054
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 3: But I loved my Penny and Hardaways. I loved them

1055
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: to death, all right, really did?

1056
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: Now?

1057
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: Also who else I got?

1058
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: I love the Heisman House and then they can keep

1059
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: it going to forever ever. But it's also old meats

1060
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: new Yes, that's why I enjoyed. I enjoyed seeing That's

1061
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: one of the few commercials I love to see Baker on.

1062
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: I love to see all the guys r G three

1063
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: on them. He's very good in those things. Like I

1064
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: love to see those guys with the Heisman commercial. But

1065
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 3: you need to go and bring Cam Newton and the

1066
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: rest of the guy bag, you know. I love see

1067
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: Child's Woods and the only defensive player in there. You know,

1068
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: thank you Childs for represent us in there. But at

1069
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I love the Heisman House

1070
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: in it for you.

1071
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm trying, I do, like I'm trying to think

1072
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: of more recent ones because the old one I came

1073
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: up with and every now and then I'll find it

1074
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: online and it gets pulled away is Earl Campbell because

1075
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: the funny thing about Earl Campbell is he's a country boy.

1076
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: No I understand why he's And.

1077
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: So he's like this is for school, like and so

1078
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: he's like on a beach and there's a football that

1079
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: gets loose, and some girls look at him and he

1080
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: walks away and he's got some skull. He turns around

1081
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: like he's got it all and he just goes school. Brother,

1082
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: like that's all you have to say, amazing, that's it,

1083
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: that's it, And he just smiles and walks off, and

1084
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the most ball.

1085
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: Listen, they wouldn't understand that guys used to smoke cigarettes

1086
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: on the sideline. I need to her, by the way,

1087
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: anybody got a Virginia Slim and go to that drink

1088
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: machine to get me a coke code. That's what it

1089
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: was at the time.

1090
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: Anything else, you got one more thing? Comment of the week,

1091
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: Make sure you get in the comments and leave us anything,

1092
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: leave us whatever you want. Yeah, you can talk about

1093
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: the show. Question you want to ask because we have

1094
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: a question posed to smooth from Commander's ninety nine. One

1095
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Speaker 1: of our consistent and loyal viewers, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Commander ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: He says, when you came back to Washington and Sean

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Speaker 1: Taylor had number twenty, yeah, you joke around with Sean

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Speaker 1: to get your number back.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember when I was finna leave.

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Speaker 3: He was Sean was real pitched at me, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, man, you know, it's a business man.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go handed.

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Speaker 3: And he was like, I'm gonna put this twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna switch my number. I was like, oh, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna put that duce one on. He's like, yeah, i'mna

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Speaker 3: put that one onduce one.

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Speaker 2: On for you. I like, I say, I'm gonna put

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Speaker 2: it on in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: We'll match it. So, you know, me and him always

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Speaker 3: kept until. We always keep in touch. So I hit

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Speaker 3: him before anybody like, hey, nobody knows, but I'm finished.

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Speaker 3: I'm coming back, Like I already talked to Coach Gibs.

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Speaker 3: I talked it on over here. I'm finna get traded.

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Speaker 2: Back over there.

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Speaker 3: He like, hey, you want you want your twenty one back?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, you went to the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 3: and that number, like, what are.

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Speaker 2: You talking about?

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Speaker 3: Like, no, man, get that twenty one back. I put

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Speaker 3: that twenty seven my own, all right. He to put

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Speaker 3: that three six on back on, I'm like, man, keep

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Speaker 3: the twenty one. I'm gonna put the three six on

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Speaker 3: like I was supposed to put thirty six on. Oh really,

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Speaker 3: so then we would have did a true number swap,

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Speaker 3: like so people would have got to see me in

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Speaker 3: twenty one and him in thirty six.

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Speaker 2: Then they got to see him in twenty one and

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Speaker 2: me in thirty six.

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Speaker 3: Then somebody had thirty six when I made it back,

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Speaker 3: and that's when I put twenty seven on. So he

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Speaker 3: tried to give me the number back, like very much,

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Speaker 3: tried to give me number back. I just felt like

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Speaker 3: he had. I feel like his identity was in that number.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I already solidified himself.

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Speaker 2: He already to me he was the best safety.

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Speaker 3: Him and Ed Reed and Troy part of my little

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Speaker 3: best three safeties in football at that time. I was like, nah, man,

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Speaker 3: keep that twenty one on. Let's go out here and

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Speaker 3: handle this business. Don't worry about the number. I find

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Speaker 3: a number. But I wish we could have wore single

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Speaker 3: digits at the time, because I would have put my

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Speaker 3: two on. I'ld have put the college number back going

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Speaker 3: out to put the new so instead of getting back

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Speaker 3: into twenty one. But yes, Commander, he did try to

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Speaker 3: give me the number back. I gladly turned it down.

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Speaker 3: I just thought he had accomplished too much in it.

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Speaker 1: And that's a great shout a story, a great way

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