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Speaker 2: our studios in New York. The Giants fall to the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers thirty to twelve. We'll have

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Speaker 2: Brian Dable at the podium. Shortly, we'll have all the

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Speaker 2: interviews from the locker room, including Bob Poppa one on

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Speaker 2: one with the quarterback of the New York Football Giants,

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. But first Jonathan can see us. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: say just very broadly, and we'll get into more details

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Speaker 2: as we go, obviously, but I think both sides of

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Speaker 2: the ball had opportunities to make some plays in this

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Speaker 2: game that could have changed things, whether it's pass making

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Speaker 2: a tackle, forcing a turnover, and we went through the

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Speaker 2: game and no one was able to step up and

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Speaker 2: make that play when they needed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you hit it right on the head. And look,

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Speaker 3: Brock Purdy did not have a great game. He was

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Speaker 3: very inaccurate, especially early throwing the football, and you know,

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Speaker 3: he gave the Giants a lot of opportunities. I think

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Speaker 3: it I counted either two or three missed interceptions by

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he threw for three hundred yards. I didn't think

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Speaker 2: he played that well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you know the Giants still haven't

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Speaker 3: really shored up that. You know, that run game, you know,

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Speaker 3: and Kritian McCaffrey averaged four point seven yards of carry

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Speaker 3: on eighteen carries. And you know, if they would have

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Speaker 3: it would have been a little bit more. But you know,

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Speaker 3: they put the ball in brock purty hands. He threw

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Speaker 3: the ball thirty seven times and like I said, he

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Speaker 3: was inaccurate a lot of those times. And you know

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Speaker 3: when he got the ball to these receivers Deebo Samuel,

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Speaker 3: the yards after contact. Do you have those numbers smell?

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Speaker 3: Because I know they're astronomical. He had six sketches four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have it on D ball. I'll have

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Speaker 2: Matt trying to get that for us back back in

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Speaker 2: the studio. But McCaffrey had three point eighty three yards

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Speaker 2: after contact per TECH, which is a fairly astronomical number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's way too much. And look, McCaffrey is

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Speaker 3: definitely you know that guy, you know, like he's definitely,

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Speaker 3: you know, the best running back at least top three

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Speaker 3: in the NFL in terms of all around, you know,

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Speaker 3: And the Giants just didn't really make a play. And

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Speaker 3: I thought they had some momentum coming out of half,

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Speaker 3: forcing it three and out by the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 3: the third quarter, and then after that again miss tackles,

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Speaker 3: missed opportunities, penalties, couldn't get the couldn't get off the

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Speaker 3: field on third down. You know, I think that Williams

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Speaker 3: the sack of the quarterback hit that Williams had that

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Speaker 3: they flagged him for, I mean, smelking, that's that's od.

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Speaker 3: And the refs were a little bit I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they were picking on the Giants, but the refs

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Speaker 3: were definitely heavy throwing the flags towards the Giants when

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Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes they weren't even at fault. But

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna put in the referees. This is all

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Speaker 3: about the Giants and their performance, and they just didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I mean, you can argue with some of

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Speaker 2: a thirty to twelve game here JC. So, No, the

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Speaker 2: Giants needed to play a lot better in this game,

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Speaker 2: and you know, both sides of the ball. I mean,

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Speaker 2: They're not out yet officially, but you know last week

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Too many three and nowns by the offense. You

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Speaker 3: got to put some type of drives together, you know,

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Speaker 3: Kerry Kittles, Kerry Kittles.

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Speaker 2: Kerry Kittles, he's a heck of a shooter JS.

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Speaker 2: Back here on PEPSI Giants Extra Point, John Schmelt, Johnathan

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Speaker 2: Casillas with you Giants fall to the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers thirty to twelve, or waiting Brian Dable at

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Speaker 2: Murdy in health, keep getting better and then JC there

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Speaker 2: seemed to be a little bit of an opportunity on

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Speaker 2: the Giants' final drive of the first half. Darren Waller

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Speaker 2: it just comes down to the Giants have not been

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Speaker 2: and something's going to have to get going here. They

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Speaker 2: have a ten or eleven days now to try to

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Speaker 2: fix things. But what do you think has to happen

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Speaker 2: first for this team to try to you know, turn

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Speaker 3: Got to do some soul searching. You know, a lot

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Speaker 3: of these these mistakes came from like them actually making

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Speaker 3: That was the same thing I was thinking. And you know,

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Speaker 2: They had JC the Giants for how about this. This

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Speaker 2: That is fifteen misstackles in a game. I don't have

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Speaker 2: you just have to make those plays because to your point,

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Speaker 2: And it's hard for defense to survive so many explosive plays.

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Speaker 3: He looked a little off, He was a little inaccurate,

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Speaker 3: you feed off big plays, and they're just not creating

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Speaker 2: No they're not. They did get their first sack of

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Speaker 2: He had a good game. Unfortunately he had to leave

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Speaker 2: To be honest with it, they had a thirty five

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Speaker 2: He never did get back in that second half, and

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Speaker 2: He had that one big defensive holding penalty called on

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk more about that, but first let's go downstairs.

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Speaker 2: The Brian Dable press conference is brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Hack and Sack Mridy in health Keep getting Better. Brian

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Speaker 2: Dable at the podium after the giants thirty to twelve

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we we you know, we went down there,

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Speaker 6: a that's a heck of a team.

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Speaker 7: You know, usually comes down to, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, making plays when you have an opportunity to make plays,

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Speaker 6: and they did a good job. You know, give them credit.

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Speaker 6: That's a heck of a football team there. You know,

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Speaker 6: came back out, had a score, went for two to

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Speaker 8: They did.

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Speaker 7: They did a lot of good stuff. That's a good

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Speaker 7: that's a good team.

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Speaker 6: Third game, Yeah, I think there were seven and nine

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Speaker 6: to it. Must have been double the time of possession,

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Speaker 6: I think somewhere around there. So, uh, when you're not

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Speaker 6: there's time of possession. So the defense gets tired. We're

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Speaker 6: Look again, that's a good football team. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: of stuff that we can do better, you know, really

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Speaker 7: So that's what we'll uh, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, we'll get back to work and get a couple

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Speaker 7: Specific No, no.

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Speaker 6: They played their defense, their fast, talented and you know, aggressive,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, i'd have to.

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Speaker 6: I want to watch the tape on the way back,

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Speaker 6: and you know, Serve there's plays that that he'd like

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Speaker 7: I'm sure there's plays that everybody would like.

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Speaker 3: To have back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no excuses, we got it. We can do

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you again, it's you gotta take you know,

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Speaker 7: Just like like every game.

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Speaker 6: Uh, the guys compete it and you know we compete it.

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Speaker 7: All the way to the end.

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Speaker 6: You know, they made they made more plays than we did.

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Speaker 6: So you go back and take a look at it,

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Speaker 6: and you know, get get going on the next week,

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Speaker 6: no no excuses. Yeah, that's something that we talked about

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Speaker 6: as a coaching staff. You know, he was gonna go

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Speaker 6: go out there and play the Yeah, I saw a

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Speaker 7: I couldn't see the whole thing.

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Speaker 9: That they gave more difficult for somebody to come back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say he was. He was considerably better, you know.

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Speaker 6: And again I talked to him the day I talked

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Speaker 6: we'll see where it goes. Next week, but he's walking

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Speaker 6: around he had a chance. Yeah, the one was the

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Speaker 6: we just you know, we missed it. You know, we

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Speaker 6: it was fairly tight coverage. You try to put it,

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Speaker 7: It just it sailed over. Hiss had a little bit

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Speaker 6: We called the fair amount of them with you know,

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Speaker 6: So you know, it was a delicate balance there with

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Speaker 7: You know, we have to we have to go out.

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Speaker 6: There compete and you know, try to win our football games.

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Speaker 6: There's no excuses. Yeah, but it wasn't I guess you.

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Speaker 7: I mean, look, they call what they see, they got.

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Speaker 6: Uh, and again that's that's that's an excuse. We're not

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Speaker 7: That they'll call that mostly every time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to be at your best every week.

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Speaker 6: And again, they are a very good football team. He's

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Speaker 6: I think we'll see. You know, he's been getting better.

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Speaker 6: We'll see where he's at. I'm not going to give

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Speaker 3: You're still difficulty used them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean right now, I'm just you know,

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Speaker 6: So again, make no excuses, roll up or sleeves, go.

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Speaker 7: To work and have a good week of practice. I

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Speaker 6: I I haven't talked to r again, I haven't talked

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Speaker 11: You call every game of.

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Speaker 6: Them, but uh give Tyrod an opportunity to try to

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Speaker 7: It was good to get him back. You know, we

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Speaker 6: This game, and then hopefully next week we'll add a

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Speaker 2: That is head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable joining

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Speaker 2: us downstairs. Nobody else at the podium today except for

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, but we're gonna have Papa one on one

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Speaker 2: with DJ so we will take that instead. A lot

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Speaker 2: more coming your way on Pepsi Giants Extra Point. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about exactly what Brian Dable just said and more.

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Speaker 1: When we returned, you were listening to Pepsi Giants Extra

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Speaker 12: Jones over center, hand off, Brita dashes up the middle,

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Speaker 12: Breda to the five.

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Speaker 2: Brita to the goal line. Is he in no thing?

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Speaker 2: Go yes, touchdown Giants.

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Speaker 12: Matt Breeda, the former Niner, races it in and the

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Speaker 2: for Giant fans that drive just two plays thirty seven yards,

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Speaker 2: offensively the rest of the game. JC. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: through some of the drive counts here, and I think

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Speaker 2: this is always very important to kind of go through

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Speaker 2: this over the course of every game, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you take a look at it. The Giants did not

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Speaker 2: have one drive in this game that game more than

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Speaker 2: fifty yards on an individual drive. They had a field

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Speaker 2: goal drive for forty nine, a field goal drive that

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Speaker 2: went thirty seven, their touchdown drive went thirty seven with

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Speaker 2: the penalty, and then the forty nine ers had five

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Speaker 2: drives that went sixty four yards or more, six drives

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Speaker 2: that win fifty yards or more, and I think that

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Speaker 2: kind of just sums it up where the Giants were

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Speaker 2: not able to get off the field. Briandable mentioned the

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Speaker 2: time of possession battle the Diners won that thirty nine

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Speaker 2: minutes and ten seconds to twenty minutes and fifty seconds.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean when you can't convert third downs

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Speaker 2: and the other and you can't stop the other team

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Speaker 2: from converting third downs. The Giants just three of twelve,

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Speaker 2: nine ers nine of sixteen. That's how you get the

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Speaker 2: type of imbalance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, the Giants were a lot closer, you know,

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Speaker 3: during the game than I think they could have should

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Speaker 3: have been because the San Francisco forty nine ers were

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Speaker 3: out gaining them like that the entire game. It was

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Speaker 3: always almost a two to one time of possession. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the yardage is insane. You got what total yards fifty

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Speaker 3: it's over almost three hundred yards out gained, which is insane,

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Speaker 3: and the Giants only average three point three yards would play.

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Speaker 3: So look, the Giants they have to do some soul searching,

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Speaker 3: you know. And injuries are gonna happen, you know. Sa

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Speaker 3: Kuan being out Andrew Thomas being out like those are

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Speaker 3: not excuses to lose the way they lost and to

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Speaker 3: put forth an effort, I feel like, and it's a

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Speaker 3: collective thing. It's not one person. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 3: single nobody out anything. It's a collective effort, just like

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Speaker 3: it was a collective effort in Week one.

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Speaker 2: Just see, I don't to be clear, now, when you

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Speaker 2: say effort, you're not saying guys aren't trying. You're say

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Speaker 2: effort as an executing at a high level. Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't say. I won't say guys aren't trying,

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Speaker 3: because everybody's trying. But it's sometimes like when that ball

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Speaker 3: was in the air, when Hafunga made that interception, there

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Speaker 3: were other Giants players around, you know, and like making

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Speaker 3: us split the second second choice of not going in

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Speaker 3: there or hesitating a little bit, you know that's gonna

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Speaker 3: cost you. You know, there's no there's no place for hesitation.

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Speaker 3: There's no place for second guests in the NFL. Everything's

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Speaker 3: to move too fast. And that's the effort I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: And some of that comes to, you know, making tackles,

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Speaker 3: like actually trying to go in there and understanding who

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Speaker 3: you're bringing down and how you need to tackle him

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Speaker 3: and doing it that way.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, it's just kind of I get When I

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Speaker 2: say extra effort plays, I just mean those going above

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Speaker 2: the extras and O's plays, right, and those just weren't

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Speaker 2: there where you get a little bit more to make

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Speaker 2: just a really nice play that can turn a game.

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Speaker 2: And we got those from the Giants in the second

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Speaker 2: half of that Cardinals game, but we just didn't see

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Speaker 2: those in Week one, and we didn't see those today

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Speaker 2: against two of the you know, most talented teams in

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Speaker 2: football in Dallas and the forty nine Ers. And that

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Speaker 2: was the other thing that Brian Dable talked about. He

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Speaker 2: talked about the missed opportunities and not making plays when

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Speaker 2: it counted on both sides, whether it was you know,

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Speaker 2: getting the forty nine Ers off the field on those

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Speaker 2: third downs, trying to make tackles on those couple of

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Speaker 2: screenplays that gain big yards, getting pressure sure when you

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Speaker 2: need to. You know, he talked about the Slanta Waller

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Speaker 2: where he couldn't make the catch. You had to play

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Speaker 2: over the middle where you know, to quote Brian Dable,

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Speaker 2: he was overthrown the ball a little too high over

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Speaker 2: his head from Daniel Jones. You had to play down

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Speaker 2: the sideline where he couldn't quite come up with the

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Speaker 2: catch when there was tight coverage on the sideline, a

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Speaker 2: little bit of contact and just they couldn't find someone

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Speaker 2: to make that play to turn the tide. And when

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Speaker 2: you're playing a team like the forty nine ers with

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Speaker 2: guys like Nick Bosa, Deebo Samuel, George Kato, Christian McCaffery

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Speaker 2: who were turning you know, two or three or five

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Speaker 2: or six yard catches into twenty and thirty yard games

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Speaker 2: because of their ability to make special plays. You just

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Speaker 2: weren't seeing enough of that on defense of the Giants

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Speaker 2: or when they had the football.

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Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel out gained the entire receiving corps for the

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Speaker 3: New York Giants, including Darren Waller take out you know,

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Speaker 3: the running backs. But that's that's not good. That's not

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Speaker 3: good at all, you know. And you know, and Waller,

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Speaker 3: he's such a tremendous player, like you expect more from him,

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Speaker 3: you know, like you don't expect people to hit the

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Speaker 3: ball away when the ball is in his hands, you know.

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Speaker 3: And the Giants need to have their big time players

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Speaker 3: make big time plays, you know, and then everybody else

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Speaker 3: kind of would follow suit. You know. It's a momentum

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Speaker 3: thing too. But then it's also who are your big dogs?

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Speaker 3: Who is your dogs that's going to go in there

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Speaker 3: and fight and bite and do the first action right,

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Speaker 3: and it's just I don't know if they're just reserve

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Speaker 3: that are just trying to, you know, get together because

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Speaker 3: the preseason is so like almost non existent, you know.

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Speaker 3: But like good thing. The Giants kind of got this

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Speaker 3: out the way early. Hopefully it's a good thing and

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Speaker 3: they learn from this because they do have some time

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Speaker 3: before they play with Monday Night Football against the Seahawks

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Speaker 3: on Monday Night at home, the next home game, you know,

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Speaker 3: which is going to be another huge game, another primetime game,

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Speaker 3: and the Giants haven't had a lot of luck in

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Speaker 3: primetime games. But you know, this is going to be

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Speaker 3: a week of reflection and a week of soul search,

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Speaker 3: and of course they're going to recover from this game.

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Speaker 3: A lot of injuries happened tonight. I think that Dorri

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Speaker 3: Jackson was playing very well. I think that last catch

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Speaker 3: with Deebo Samuels was a very well thrown ball brob

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Speaker 3: bock perty And if I'm not mistaken, yeah, if I'm

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Speaker 3: not mistaken, it was zero coverage and they just didn't

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Speaker 3: get there. When it's zero coverage and the quarterback has

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Speaker 3: the time to throw the ball that far downfield, I

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Speaker 3: don't put all the responsibility on the corner that's going

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Speaker 3: against one of the best wide receivers in the NFL

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Speaker 3: and the quarterback just threw a perfect ball. But it's

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Speaker 3: always a collective effort, Smoky. This is a collective effort

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Speaker 3: and a collective loss that you can point at so

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Speaker 3: many different mistakes on so many different levels. And I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what, Gill, he punted the ball very well.

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Speaker 3: His first punt was sixty yards. He averaged fifty two

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Speaker 3: point seven yards per punt even though he had six punts,

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Speaker 3: which is a lot of punts. But I think he

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Speaker 3: punted the ball very well. And Eric Gray had an

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Speaker 3: nice return. You know, so special teams. I think they

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Speaker 3: did decently in special teams. But you know, I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at the statistics and McFadden had ten tackles and he

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Speaker 3: had four TFLs, but he definitely missed at least three

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Speaker 3: or four tackles, right, you know, these guys, everybody collectively,

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Speaker 3: they have to make the plays that come to them. Yes,

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Speaker 3: these players, Deebo, Samuel Christ, they're really good. But you know,

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Speaker 3: the Giants got a lot of good, really good players too,

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Speaker 3: you know, and they just haven't been showing up like

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Speaker 3: you want them, especially on third downs offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have to do more of that, and

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Speaker 2: we'll have more. We'll open up the phones. Eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven three three seven sixty six sixty six eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven three three seven sixty six sixty six. Get on

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Speaker 2: the line, talk some Giants football with us. When we

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Speaker 2: come back. We'll hear from Keevon Thibadeau from the locker

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Speaker 2: room on Pepsi Giants extra Point. When we come back.

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Speaker 12: Darius Slayton, and you're listening to the radio home of

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Speaker 2: Shons brings his team to the live shotgun set again.

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Speaker 7: Two receivers.

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Speaker 12: Love takes the snap back to throw Lobb's one down

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Speaker 12: the left side. Slayton makes the catch and then gets

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Speaker 12: pushed out of bounds with the forty five yard.

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Speaker 2: Live that was the Giants' largest play of the game

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Speaker 2: in terms of air yards. That passed the Darius Layton

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Speaker 2: on the sideline. Kind of a back shoulder catch there

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Speaker 2: that helps set up a Giants field goal along the

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Speaker 2: way here in the Giants thirty to twelve loss to

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Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine Ers that I believe was

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Speaker 2: a seventeen yard game there for Slayton on that final

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Speaker 2: drive at the half to set up a Giants field goal.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful back with you exactly, No, JC, right, I think

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Speaker 2: that's and that, frankly, was really the best downfield throw

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Speaker 2: and attempt that the Giants really had for most of

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Speaker 2: this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they were putting together a drive like

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Speaker 3: you said, right before half, and that drop by Waller

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Speaker 3: just you know, stimy the whole thing. And you know,

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Speaker 3: like I said, I don't want to pick on anybody,

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Speaker 3: but Waller is such a tremendous player, bro, and you know,

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Speaker 3: you rely on your big time players to make big

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Speaker 3: time plays, you know, and it just hasn't been showing

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Speaker 3: up from not just him, but really anybody really, you know,

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Speaker 3: just going out and above and beyond, and like I said,

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Speaker 3: the extra effort, not just the effort of every play,

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Speaker 3: but the extra effort to break up the interception to

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Speaker 3: go ahead and you know, step up to that contested

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Speaker 3: pass from that defensive back, because look that forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: On defense. I think they played really well today. I

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Speaker 3: think they tackled really well, and they were all over

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Speaker 3: the place. They only had two sacks and one was

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Speaker 3: almost a free beat to Tobosa. But I think they

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Speaker 3: played very well on defense. But the Giants need to

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Speaker 3: put together a defensive game like that. They need to

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Speaker 3: do it because right now their offense is just trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out what exactly their identity is. And you

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Speaker 3: have your best two players on offense out in Sae

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Speaker 3: Kwon Barkley Andrew Thomas.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the calls here. I know

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Speaker 2: it's late, folks, so we appreciate on the East Coast

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Speaker 2: it's past midnight. So get on the lines. I'll try

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Speaker 2: to get you in as quickly as possible. I won't

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Speaker 2: try to leave you on hold for very long. I

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Speaker 2: know Giant fans probably not thrilled. Let's hear from you

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Speaker 2: on the phones. Eight seven seven three three seven sixty

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Speaker 2: six sixty six. Let's go to Matt and dan Berry.

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Speaker 2: He is up first on Pepsi Giants extra point.

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Speaker 10: Hi, Matt, Hey, what's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? At man?

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Speaker 13: I got so many gripes of this game, obviously, But

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Speaker 13: the one thing that is really upsetting me is the

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Speaker 13: fact that Jalen Hyatt. Jalen Hyatt had zero targets tonight.

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Speaker 13: How is that possible after what he did for this

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Speaker 13: team last week, sparking that offense in the second half,

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Speaker 13: having a huge catch in that last touchdown drive to them,

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Speaker 13: you're gonna turn around and and disrespect him basically by

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Speaker 13: not giving him a single target the entire game Like

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Speaker 13: that unacceptable to me.

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Speaker 14: Do you have have to find a way to get

653
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Speaker 14: I don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 13: You have to find a way to get a ball

655
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Speaker 13: in his hands.

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Speaker 2: I know that, I hear you. He only he only

657
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Speaker 2: had those two targets last week, mind you.

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Speaker 15: Right?

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Speaker 14: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I think he had a targeted week with them me.

661
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Speaker 2: I could be wrong about that. He had fourteen snaps

662
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Speaker 2: in which there was a pass play in this game

663
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Speaker 2: today and overall this is unofficial because the official snaff

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Speaker 2: cuts aren't out. He was out there for sixteen plays.

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Speaker 2: I know there was at least one play that I

666
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Speaker 2: noticed where he was running a deep post and there

667
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: might have been a play to make to him and

668
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Speaker 2: pass pressure made Daniel Jones pull the ball down and

669
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Speaker 2: step up in the pocket. Brian Dables said this postgame

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Speaker 2: press conference, and Matt, thanks for the call. We share

671
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Speaker 2: your frustration that they could have had some chances down

672
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Speaker 2: the field and either there wasn't enough protection to do

673
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Speaker 2: it when they had him, and then other times the

674
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Speaker 2: Niners covered those plays down the field a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But you're right. A week after Jalen Hyge mad a

676
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Speaker 2: couple of big plays, he was at least not a

677
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Speaker 2: factor in the passing game in this game. JC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I hear Matt, you know, I hear you, bro.

679
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Speaker 3: You know, like we all watched Jalen Hyatt open up

680
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Speaker 3: the game last week and just throw that first punch

681
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Speaker 3: in the fight to get back from being twenty down, right,

682
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Speaker 3: And you would like to see him today, right, You

683
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Speaker 3: definitely would like to see him. And he's non existent

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Speaker 3: on the stat sheet, you know. And it's not just

685
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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, it's the protection, it's you know what the

686
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers were doing defense, and you know, I

687
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Speaker 3: get my credit to Daniel Jones. Man, he does I

688
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: think an unremarkable job, a remarkable job, excuse me, in

689
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Speaker 3: the pocket and escaping and creating an extending plays one

690
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Speaker 3: of their longest plays to Brightwell early in the game.

691
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Speaker 3: You know, he extended outside the pocket and threw a

692
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: good ball and bright Well caught it on a run.

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Speaker 3: You know, Daniel Jones is you know, he's doing the best.

694
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Speaker 3: I think he's doing the best and the most he can.

695
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: It's it's tough to ask when it's just so many

696
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: different holes in the offense, you know, especially on offensive line.

697
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Speaker 3: You know, you got your top two players on your

698
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 3: offensive line on your on your left side, they're both out,

699
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Speaker 3: you know, And and look, the other teams know these

700
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Speaker 3: things too, so they're gonna create one on ones with

701
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Speaker 3: who they think the weak links are. And I think

702
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Speaker 3: that's what you saw today. You know, you saw a

703
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: lot of one on ones with Daniel Jones had to

704
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Speaker 3: get the ball out pretty early, or he had to

705
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Speaker 3: escape outside the pocket. Yes, that creates a little bit time,

706
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Speaker 3: but it also kind of takes away from your rhythm

707
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Speaker 3: and you and you're timing on these routes, you know,

708
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: and it definitely sucks. And I agree with Matt, you

709
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: definitely need to get that ball to Jail and Hyatt

710
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Speaker 3: because he shows that he's definitely the most explosive person

711
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Speaker 3: on this offense. But sometimes I think tonight he just

712
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: didn't really have enough time.

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Speaker 16: That.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that Slaton catch was tonight's play. The game.

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Speaker 2: Presented by our local Ford stores, Fort is proud to

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Speaker 2: promised it. Keveon Thibeau addressed the media in the locker

718
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Speaker 2: room after the game. Let's listen in we played good.

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Speaker 8: I feel like, well, we came together. We let him

720
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Speaker 8: get too many third downs, but I feel like we

721
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Speaker 8: played rode. We took a step in lagrection. That's the

722
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Speaker 8: way calls it, you know, he calls the game and

723
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Speaker 8: we go play. So I think the team is confident

724
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Speaker 8: and to play calling. And I feel like, you know,

725
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 8: that's that part of your name.

726
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Speaker 17: He got pretty tested out there, like they were a

727
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Speaker 17: couple of times the teams like the extra curricular activities

728
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Speaker 17: or something going on between you.

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Speaker 8: Guys, And I mean, it's just a it's just the

730
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Speaker 8: heat of the game, you know. Uh, and you when

731
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 8: you got big games, you got a lot of great

732
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Speaker 8: players on the field to get chippy. Noah came on,

733
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Speaker 8: how do you how do you guys leave this obviously?

734
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Speaker 11: You know this trip and you play two games.

735
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Speaker 2: Five days, you getting on a plane. Now, what do

736
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Speaker 2: you feel.

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Speaker 11: About this team right now?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 8: We trying to build a brick by brick. We started

740
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 8: playing a little bit of complimentary football. Feel like there

741
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 8: was some spurts of the team that we could be.

742
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Speaker 8: We just gotta be more consistent on some of the.

743
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Speaker 18: Screen watch from the tackling fund the defense.

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Speaker 8: What was your sense the U fundamentals? We gotta run

745
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 8: the screen belongs to everybody, so we all gotta be

746
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 8: a part of it. We all gotta do our job.

747
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 8: You know, it's it's a team game at the end

748
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 8: of the day, So can't really blame not one person.

749
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Speaker 8: You just gotta keep getting better at the fundamentals.

750
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Speaker 19: Is that expecially frustrated through stirbas.

751
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Speaker 5: You know they're not keeping up full top.

752
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Speaker 3: Stay on a fields.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I would just say that was a good execution

754
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Speaker 11: by them. You know, we just gotta pick our game up.

755
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 11: And know you know, that's the situational awareness.

756
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Speaker 8: We got to know that, you know, when we send

757
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 8: a pressures teams in our screen and we got to

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Speaker 8: be ready for its rising movements that work.

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Speaker 2: You know, mostly.

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Speaker 3: What is this game telling you?

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Speaker 4: I'm with your team?

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Speaker 11: We just got to continue building.

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Speaker 8: Like I said, we had a few spurts of the

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Speaker 8: qualities that we want to have and the things you

765
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Speaker 8: want to exert, but we got to be more consistent.

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Speaker 11: We got to execute at a high level, and we

767
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Speaker 11: got to keep building as a team.

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Speaker 9: Cool.

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Speaker 11: Thanks Kivin, Thanks kill.

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Speaker 2: Our Our player press conferences down in the locker room

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Speaker 2: are brought to you by met Life, the official insurance

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Speaker 2: company of the New York Giants. Jac obviously defense searching

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Speaker 2: for answers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean he said they played well. I

775
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: don't know what game he was playing tonight, but they

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00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: definitely didn't play well. I mean, you know, the numbers

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00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: speaks for that. I mean, four hundred and forty four

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00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: forty one total yards, you know, I mean it's it's hard, man,

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing. Schmelky. I've been a part of

780
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: bad law losses and you trying to figure out what happened?

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00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: You know, how did it get out of the control

782
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 3: the way it did? You know, even the Dallas game

783
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Speaker 3: week one, you asked me what happened? I was like,

784
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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, cause it's just so many

785
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: things that go wrong, and it's like, all right, how

786
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 3: did it get like this? You know, this is not

787
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: as bad as a loss, because the Giants showed that,

788
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: you know, they can move the ball at times, and

789
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: the defense I think tackled better at times. But then

790
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: also you know, there was a lot of bad tackling

791
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: out there in general for the whole game, you know,

792
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Speaker 3: and you're just trying to search for answers, like, because

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Speaker 3: everybody wants to improve, Nobody wants to see this again,

794
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 3: you know, so everybody search for answers. Guys are gonna

795
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Speaker 3: talk on the plane like, man, what do you think happened?

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Speaker 3: Or what happened in that third down? Like they're they're

797
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Speaker 3: gonna try to figure this thing out, you know, and

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Speaker 3: then once they get back and they get with wake Martindale. Look,

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Speaker 3: I have the utmost confidence in these coaches, with these

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Speaker 3: players that they're gonna correct things and they're gonna have

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00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 3: a better showing the next time we see them, because

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00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: they need to do it, because if not, then this

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00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: is how it's going to be during the season. They

804
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: have to respond, they have to do some soul searching,

805
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: and they have to see what they can do personally

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00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: to improve themselves to help contribute to the team.

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Speaker 2: All right, well we come back. We'll hear from Daniel

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00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: Jones downstairs his one on one with Bob Pop after

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Speaker 2: every game, and we'll get back to you on the calls.

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: I promise you first thing we'll do in the next time,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to you on the phones. Jake and new Haven.

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Speaker 2: I know you're on the line. You will be up

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Speaker 2: next when we return. On Pepsi Giants Extra Point again,

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Speaker 2: Giants fall to the card to the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 2: thirty to twelve.

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Speaker 2: And we will hear from Daniel Jones in the locker

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Speaker 2: sixty six sixty six. But first before the busses pull

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Speaker 2: out and he gets on a plane and he loses

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Speaker 2: his cell phone, saying no, we want to get to

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Speaker 2: Paul Deatino, who just did a great job. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: say he sent it around like four interviews or so

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Speaker 2: from the locker room. Want to talk to him downstairs

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Speaker 2: about kind of what the tenor and what the mood

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Speaker 2: was in there. Paul obviously not positive, I'm sure, but

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Speaker 2: what was the light downstairs in the Giants' locker room

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Speaker 2: following this thirty to twelve loss of the forty nine editors?

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Speaker 10: And it was very quiet, John, very very quiet. Guys

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Speaker 10: seem to be upset, disgusted, just shaking their heads at

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Speaker 10: what had just happened. We've heard a lot from defensive

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00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 10: players as we're walking around the locker room, you know,

842
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 10: understanding that there were too many mistackles. Guys didn't make

843
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 10: enough plays, guys didn't follow their fundamentals, didn't get the

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Speaker 10: stops they needed to get, didn't hear too many offensive

845
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Speaker 10: guys talk as we were trying to, you know, make

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Speaker 10: our way through. It was it was a very, very

847
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Speaker 10: like I say, quiet locker room. And I don't know

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00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 10: how to read that because I know the guys verbally

849
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 10: expressed disgust. But as you know, and Jonathan knows, you

850
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 10: could express disgust if you liked, but you got to

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00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 10: do something about it. And for three games in a

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00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 10: row now, this defense, outside of a couple of fourth

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00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 10: quarter stops against the Cardinals, hasn't really stepped up and

854
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 10: played the kind of defense we thought they could.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because the defense was this strong point with the

856
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: Giants last year and we thought going into this year

857
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: led by their defensive front, and they just haven't been

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00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: showing up, you know, especially on third downs where you

859
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 3: need to get off the field, you need somebody to

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Speaker 3: make a play, and it just haven't been happening, you know.

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Speaker 3: And it's just three weeks of this, like you said, Paul,

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00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: you know, and these guys got to show up. Dexter Lawrence. Look,

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Speaker 3: we all love sexy Dexy. He hasn't danced one in

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Speaker 3: three games.

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Speaker 10: Guys, Well, I think what really was disappointing about tonight's game, Fellas,

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Speaker 10: is that even though they were being outplayed by San Francisco,

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Speaker 10: it was still only a twenty to twelve game going

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Speaker 10: into the fourth quarter. It's a one score game. I mean,

869
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 10: there's still within arm's length of doing something. And instead,

870
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 10: you know, the Niners bridge the third and fourth where

871
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 10: they scoring drive, they get a field goal, and then

872
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 10: they get the ball back the next time and once

873
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 10: again they go to length of the field and they

874
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 10: get a touchdown, and now the game's out of reach,

875
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 10: you know. I mean, if you can just dig down

876
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 10: somehow and get a stop there, you give your offense

877
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 10: an opportunity maybe to put some pressure on San Francisco

878
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 10: and potentially turn the tie.

879
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: Paul, did anyone raise their hands on either side of

880
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: the ball and try to take it on their shoulders

881
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: and say I need to make a play, I need

882
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: to do this is you know because you mentioned it.

883
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: This is what Brian Dables said as press conference to

884
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: just no one on either side of the ball at

885
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: some point just stood up and made a big play

886
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: to try to turn the tide of this game.

887
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 10: Well, and that's the problem. All the guys are basically

888
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 10: saying collectively, I did not catch anyone in particular Bobbio character.

889
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 10: You'll listen to his interview, I'm sure in a little while.

890
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 10: You know, he's trying to take as much responsibility as

891
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 10: he can, trying to assert himself as a leader on

892
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 10: this team although he's a new guy. You know, that's

893
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 10: a difficult thing to do. Collectively, everybody in that locker

894
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 10: room seems to be willing to share in the blame,

895
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 10: which I suppose is a good thing. You want to

896
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 10: have accountability. But you know, Jonathan will probably tell you,

897
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 10: you know, it all starts with each guy playing better

898
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 10: himself and then collectively they will follow absolutely.

899
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: And that's the point I was making before we got

900
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: you on the phone. The guys have to do some

901
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: soul searching. You know, how could I improve individually to

902
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 3: help out this team, because there's mistakes across the board

903
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: before before the ball is snapped, and then after the

904
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: ball is snaps. Too many misstackles, you know, and that's

905
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: you know, that's some that's that's you know, that's a

906
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 3: man stuff right there, Like you got to take accountability

907
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: of that. You know a lot of times where they

908
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: were one on one with some of these guys and

909
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: you're not these are these are not rare guys in

910
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: the NFL. Like there's a lot of guys that run

911
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: hard and are hard to bring down in the NFL.

912
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: You know, the Seahawks have a whole bunch of them.

913
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: One at wide receiver DK metcalf Right, it's very similar

914
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: in body style to Deebo Samuel Right. You have to

915
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 3: take it upon yourself to go ahead and go all

916
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: out when you're making a tackle because that's what is

917
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: required for you to make a play, and they just

918
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: haven't been doing it.

919
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 10: You know, guys, maybe the one I don't want to

920
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 10: say it's a silver lining because it's not a silver lining,

921
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 10: but they have been beaten soundly now by two of

922
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 10: the premier teams in the league. You're not going to

923
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 10: face a premier team every week, as we now know,

924
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 10: because they just played the Cardinals the other day and

925
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 10: came back and beat them. Certainly, when you look at

926
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 10: the measuring stick of the upper echelon of this league

927
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 10: right now, the Giants are not there.

928
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: It's just that simple.

929
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 10: Can they get there. Only time is going to tell.

930
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 10: But right now they are not there.

931
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: Well I'm sorry, Jacon, go.

932
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: Ahead, No, I was going to say that they're not

933
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: even close.

934
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: Sorry, Paul, good stuff man, Safe travels, and you will

935
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: be on Big Book Kickoff Live tomorrow, correct with with Lance.

936
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it will be Lance and I at twelve thirty.

937
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 10: After I get a little bit of shot eye and

938
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 10: perhaps some breakfast, head back to the studio.

939
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and make sure you check that out, folks. We

940
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: stream live on giants dot Com twelve thirty every weekday

941
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: for Big Blue Kickoff Live. Lance and Paul will go

942
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: through all the stuff on this game and then look

943
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: ahead to Seattle a bit as well. Paul, save travels,

944
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: my friend. We'll talk to you next week.

945
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 10: All right, all right you too, John, take care?

946
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: All right. I want to get to one call before

947
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: we say goodbye here. Rather take our next final break

948
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 2: on our network. Then we have a much longer local

949
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: postgame locally here. Let's go to jacb Newhaven. Jake, you're

950
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: up next.

951
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 20: Hey, thanks for having me on. I got a couple

952
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 20: points to make after watching the Giant game tonight, and sure,

953
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 20: Jalen Hyatt only getting thirteen snaps in zero targets, I

954
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 20: believe is absurd. And I listened to the fan this

955
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 20: morning and they were talking about how we got to

956
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 20: get Jalen Hyatt the ball down the field and against

957
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 20: the good defense, knowing we weren't gonna probably win the game,

958
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 20: and just give him some shots. He's the fastest guy

959
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 20: in the field, you know what I mean, Like, why.

960
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 21: Aren't we getting him the ball at all?

961
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 20: Just giving him shots, go routes, maybe no safety over

962
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 20: the top, just one corner. Why aren't we giving him shots?

963
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: Well, I think at JC said this before, and I

964
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: think obviously you ought to try to get him the ball.

965
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: There were at least a couple plays in this game

966
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: where they were trying to get highat deep but the

967
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: pass pressure didn't allow they get it to him. And

968
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: the other thing about this too, is that the Niners

969
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: play a lot of his own defense. They play their

970
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: guys deep a lot. They do not let guys get

971
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 2: over the top. They've only allowed three passes of twenty

972
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: yards or more all year, so their defense is designed

973
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: to keep things in front of them. I obviously have

974
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: not gone back and watched the All twenty two to

975
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: see what every play look like, and how they were

976
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: using high in and whether or not he was open

977
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: they didn't get it to him. I can't answer that question.

978
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: I have not watched it yet, but yes, I'm sure

979
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: the giants in games like this, especially when they need

980
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: some big plays, would like to get the ball in

981
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: the highest hands more if they can.

982
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And they have to figure out

983
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: a way how to get it to them because right

984
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: now they just really don't have too many opportunities to

985
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: do so. Number one, he's not playing that much, which is,

986
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: you know, thirteen plays is not that much at his position.

987
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: But also when he's in creating some type of offensive

988
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 3: play where they can guarantee that he gets a target,

989
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: you know, that's very difficult to do, especially if you know,

990
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: everybody saw that forty niners saw what he did last week,

991
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: So they understand when thirteen is in the game the

992
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: type of problems that he presents, and they're not going

993
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 3: to just be so willing to allow it to happen again.

994
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 2: And fig in total STAPs for Hygatt thirteen on pass

995
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: plays and offans like boy, that's you know, that's that's

996
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: that's really not a lot here. Well, guys, this was

997
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: part of the problem the Giants in this game. And

998
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: I'll make sure I get it right. Only ran. I'm

999
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: looking for the play count here, JC, because they who

1000
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: had they struggled in time of possession, They almost got

1001
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: doubled up in terms of time of possession. But in

1002
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: this game, you know, they only ran. Doing the math

1003
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: in my head, thirty one thirty six, thirty nine, forty

1004
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 2: eight plays, I mean, that's not a lot of offensive

1005
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: plays for a game, for an offense.

1006
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: It's just not Yeah, and then put in perspective the

1007
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: forty nine ers that seventy eight plays, which is a

1008
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: little bit higher than the average. The average is somewhere

1009
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: like maybe sixty five to seventy five. Seventy plays. Seventy

1010
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: eight is you know, it's a lot of plays, but

1011
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: it's not a lot when your offense is actually producing

1012
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: and scoring, converting on third downs, extending drives. And you know,

1013
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: the Giants being three of twelve on third downs, that

1014
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: goes directly to play count, and they didn't they didn't

1015
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: try any fourth down attempts, you know, so you know

1016
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 3: the Giants definitely look it's a it's an early bye week,

1017
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: you know, and then usually when you get a bye week,

1018
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 3: you know, and I call it a early bye week

1019
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: because it's you know, extended weekend. They're gonna get a

1020
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: couple of days off, you know. Yeah, you get to

1021
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: get away from ball. Just because it's early in the season.

1022
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: They still have been playing ball non stop since late July,

1023
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: you know, and that's that's a lot of football. It's

1024
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: good to get away from ball a little bit, reflect,

1025
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: you know, on who you are as a person. You know,

1026
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: I would do this individually, smoke whenever I feel like

1027
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't playing well or the team wasn't playing well.

1028
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: Like you can't do anything besides what you can do personally,

1029
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 3: you know, like Bobbyokarak can't make a tackle for Jackson,

1030
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 3: you know, like he can't if he's not there. You know,

1031
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 3: like you have to be accountable for what you do

1032
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: and what you bring to the game, you know, and

1033
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 3: x's and those. Wise, it looked like defensively that was

1034
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: on point, but it was just too many penalties on

1035
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: third downs and miss tackles and miss opportunities. And then

1036
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 3: also that ball brock perty he wasn't accurate today, He

1037
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: didn't throw he wasn't that accurate quarterback that picked a

1038
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: part the Giants today.

1039
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: No, he was going to go get it.

1040
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a little sloppy with some of his passes,

1041
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: especially early on in the game, and the Giants just

1042
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 3: didn't capitalize. And you need to capitalize on plays like

1043
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: that when you're playing one of the best teams in

1044
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: the NFL, in the San Francisco forty nine Ers. That's

1045
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: just it.

1046
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: All right, Let's take a time out when we come back,

1047
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: more of your calls, and then we'll Bob pop Is

1048
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: one on one with Daniel Jones downstairs. When we returned

1049
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: recapping the giants thirty to twelve loss to the San

1050
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine Ers on Thursday Night Football.

1051
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: You're listening to Pepsi Giants Extra Point on the Wfan

1052
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: Giants radio network.

1053
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 7: This is offensive coordinator Mike Kafka, and you're listening to

1054
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 7: the radio home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and

1055
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 7: Wfan FM, New York.

1056
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: Fack, You're on Pepsi Giants Extra Point. John Schmoke, Jonathan

1057
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: can see us with you. Giants fall to the San

1058
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine Ers on Thursday Night Football thirty to

1059
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: twelve and fall to one and two on the season.

1060
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: After the game, the voice of the Giants, Bob Papa,

1061
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: had a chance to catch up with the quarterback of

1062
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants, Daniel Jones.

1063
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 12: We're joined by a Giants quarterback, Daniel Jones, and Daniel

1064
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 12: talk a little bit about the frustration level that you

1065
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 12: feel in the group because there were opportunities tonight to

1066
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 12: get something done, you guys couldn't.

1067
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 11: Get it done.

1068
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 4: Uh.

1069
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think we're all we're all frustrated, for sure.

1070
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 15: I think there were, like you said, a number of

1071
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 15: opportunities we've got to convert on and find ways.

1072
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: To do it.

1073
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 15: So, you know, I definitely have to have to be

1074
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 15: more consistent, give guys chances to make plays in some

1075
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 15: of those situations. And yeah, good football team, credit to

1076
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 15: the forty nine ers, but definitely left some plays out there.

1077
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 12: How hard is it to make sure that you don't

1078
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 12: try to do too much? I mean, because it's eleven

1079
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 12: guys out there, one guy can't change everything. I know

1080
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 12: you're the quarterback and the leader, but do you have

1081
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 12: to guard against doing stuff like that?

1082
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 15: I think we're all We're all focused on on doing

1083
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 15: our job better, you know. I think, you know, certainly

1084
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 15: starts with me and and my job, and I understand

1085
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 15: that I've got to play better, and and uh, the

1086
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 15: way we're gonna get where we want to go is

1087
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 15: everyone you know working together and and uh, you know,

1088
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 15: doing their jobs. So we understand that we're you know,

1089
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 15: gotta stay confident, stay together, look at the things we

1090
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 15: got to do better and then and then keep going. So, uh,

1091
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 15: we got a good football team, just gotta gotta play better.

1092
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 12: Finally, as a leader, what do you say to some

1093
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 12: of the younger guys and your teammates when you get

1094
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 12: back to work to try to make sure that guys

1095
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 12: don't get down.

1096
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, you got to understand, this is a

1097
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 15: long season. This is the NFL play a lot of

1098
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 15: good teams, So you know, we've got to focus on

1099
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 15: us and what we got to do to improve as

1100
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 15: a group. And uh, there's still a lot of opportunity

1101
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 15: out there for us. And and I gotta stay confidence,

1102
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 15: stay together. We've got a good football team, which you

1103
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 15: gotta gotta play better. Thanks Daniel, all right, thanks.

1104
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: A couple of stats on Daniel Jones, Jonathan. These are

1105
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: some of the events stats that PFF and next gen

1106
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: stats deliver. So let's give a couple of them. Average

1107
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: depth of target for Daniel six yards, it gets up

1108
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: to six point and if you count some of the

1109
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: players that got a race due to penalty, average time

1110
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: to throw two point six seconds. And you know, those

1111
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: numbers are fine, but again that just speaks to their

1112
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 2: inability to get the ball down the field. In this game.

1113
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: It was very similar to what the first half numbers

1114
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: looked like against Arizona in terms of depth of target,

1115
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: which jumped dramatically in half number two. And I think

1116
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 2: you could hear in a Daniel's voice he obviously wishes

1117
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: the offense could have done more in this game, and

1118
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: frankly the first six quarters of the season as well.

1119
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then all of the targets, all of these

1120
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: explosive players that the Giants, you know, brought in the

1121
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 3: you know, the Slayton's been here, Darren Waller, Jalen Hyatt,

1122
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: Paris Campbell. Paris Campbell has six catches for twenty four yards.

1123
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: That's four yards per catch, you know, and it's like,

1124
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 3: we're where's the run after catch? You know for our team?

1125
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 3: Because San Francisco forty nine ers, it was a lot

1126
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: of run after catch. It was a lot of yak

1127
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 3: yards that they gained after they caught the football and

1128
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: after contact as well. And the Giants just aren't replicating

1129
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 3: that on their on their side of the ball. And

1130
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: you know, you need if look, if you have a

1131
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: simplified offense and you're running that you know, quick dumps,

1132
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: you know, just to get the ball out your hands.

1133
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: You're relying on your skilled players to create after they

1134
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: catch the ball, and it just you know, it just

1135
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: haven't showed up yet.

1136
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: All right, guys, get on the line eight seven seven

1137
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: three three seven sixty six sixty six. We will take

1138
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: your calls locally here in New York. We're about to

1139
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: saygo Batto or Network jayc before we do, give me

1140
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: your thoughts her Giants in one and two. What needs

1141
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: to happen over the next ten or eleven days heading

1142
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 2: into that Seattle game on Monday night football for the

1143
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: Giants that starts playing some better football.

1144
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think each person individually, did you know, take

1145
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: this time away and you know, do some soul searching

1146
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 3: and figure out how they can improve themselves before they

1147
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: come back to the team, and then go and have

1148
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 3: a great week of practice. Because it's a little bit

1149
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 3: longer week because they play on Monday night and then

1150
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: go out there and play some good football, some quality football.

1151
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 3: Go ahead and make those plays, you know, And I

1152
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: think there's a sense of urgency that it's not there

1153
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 3: at times during the game for both sides of the ball,

1154
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: and they have to be able to perform and they

1155
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 3: have to be able to have that sense of urgency,

1156
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: especially on third down and especially on red zone. And

1157
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: that's the two areas with a Giants struggle.

1158
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1159
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: Look, the Seahawks are not an elite team in the NFC.

1160
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: You know, they are not San Francisco, they are not Dallas,

1161
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: but they were a playoff team last year. Gino Smith

1162
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: was an explosive quarterback. He gets the ball down the field.

1163
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: And if the Giants don't tackle against Seattle, guess what

1164
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: you mentioned it before, dk Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Jackson Smith

1165
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: and Jigba throwing Kenneth Walker the third those guys are

1166
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: gonna make big plays just like this. Players in the

1167
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: first three teams the Giants base have.

1168
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: Played absolutely and they have to improve. Like what we're

1169
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: seeing from the first three weeks of the Giants, this

1170
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: is not a playoff caliber team. This is not how

1171
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: they looked in the first three weeks last year. You know,

1172
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 3: even though I think was when was the Dallas game

1173
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 3: last year? Was it week three or week four?

1174
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: Four? I believe I can double check.

1175
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: But even that game, that game was a very competitive

1176
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: game and the Giants only lost by I think it's

1177
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: either seven or eight points. It was very competitive. It

1178
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 3: didn't look like this, you know, it was very competitive,

1179
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 3: and it was like one or two guys, you know,

1180
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 3: kind of getting beat out on certain times and downs

1181
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 3: and distances. But this is like an overall beatdown, you know,

1182
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 3: like this is you could look at the stats. You know,

1183
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 3: this is a game where the stats don't lie.

1184
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: You know, it was week three, by the way, Jase, right,

1185
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 2: it was week three last year, right, sixteen.

1186
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 3: Right, So even with that loss, it was a very

1187
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: competitive loss, and the Giants were in that game and

1188
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 3: it was a fight the entire game. They didn't make

1189
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: it easy for the Cowboys. Not to say it was tonight,

1190
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 3: but I mean if you're you know, in the fourth

1191
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: quarter and you're playing your backups, that mean it was

1192
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: an early night for these guys. These guys put the team,

1193
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: put the Giants away early enough to play their backups,

1194
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: you know, and that means the Giants weren't competitive for

1195
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 3: four quarters.

1196
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: If you're listening on our local flagship, WFN, stay on

1197
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: the lines at eight seven seven three three seven sixty

1198
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: six sixty six. We will get to your calls in

1199
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: just a bit, so please stick with us on our

1200
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: local flagship. But it's time to say goodbye to the

1201
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: affiliates across the country on the Giants Radio Network. Our

1202
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: next broadcast will be Monday Night Football when the Giants

1203
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: host the Seattle Seahawks, with our pregame show again on

1204
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: the network beginning one hour before kickoff. That's at seven

1205
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: point fifteen Eastern Time on Monday Night in Week four

1206
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: of the NFL season. Thanks for listening tonight across our

1207
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: radio network and we'll see it next Monday Night when

1208
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: the Giants host the Seattle Seahawks on the WFN Giants

1209
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: Radio Network. But we're not done right here on WFN

1210
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: and New York, get on the phones eight seven seven

1211
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: three three seven sixty six sixty six. Jonathan Casius and

1212
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: I will take your calls. We got plenty a sound

1213
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: from the locker room. Darren Waller Dexter Lawrence, Bobby Ocaracay,

1214
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: Wandel Robinson making his return, Matt Brada. All of that

1215
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: and more coming your way on the fan. Back here

1216
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: on PEPSI Giants extra point. John Schmel Johnathan Casilla is

1217
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: with you here on the fan in New York. It

1218
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: is time for our stats of the game, brought to

1219
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: you by the Archdiocese of New York. Learn more at

1220
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: Inner CITYENYC dot org. And by the way, get on

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00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: the lines, guys eight seven seven three three seven sixty

1222
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: six sixty six, Tom and Coolemack will take you in

1223
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: just a second. One piece of information, mister Casillas, you

1224
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: requested this our buddy Matt Stowski back in the studio,

1225
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: providing it unofficially seven and a half yards after contact

1226
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: per reception for Deebo Samuel in this game.

1227
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: Mean, I mean that's a lot. And then when a

1228
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: case the touchdown pass, he didn't have any after contacts

1229
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 3: and I was on the other five receptions.

1230
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 4: That he had.

1231
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, that's a really I didn't even think

1232
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: about that. That's a really good point. So if you

1233
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: figured that he so you know what, I'm gonna do

1234
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: some quick math here. So if he averaged seven and

1235
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: a half per reception in this game. He had six receptions, right,

1236
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: so that is forty five yards after contact unofficially, all right,

1237
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: you take off the forty yard catch. He had eighty

1238
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: nine receiving yards, but he's more than half of his

1239
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: receiving yards JC on those five catches came after contact.

1240
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure his name is Deebo

1241
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: because he can do that, not just because he likes

1242
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: that name from watching Friday back in the day, but man,

1243
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 3: that dude's explosive, man, and he hasn't really been activated

1244
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: this year like he was tonight, and it just sucks

1245
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 3: that it was against our giants.

1246
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: A smoky back by the way, you would laugh. I

1247
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: didn't know they did this year, but whenever Deebo makes

1248
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: a big play, they flashed like a quick scene with

1249
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: ice Cube from Friday on the scoreboard with like this

1250
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: Deebo logo up there. It's actually kind of funny. They

1251
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: do a good job with this.

1252
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 3: Oh oh my gosh. They played the game man dead.

1253
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: Hey, look, they're a very good football team, and we

1254
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: talked about that on the pregame show. Let's go through

1255
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: some of the basic numbers here, JC first. From a

1256
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: team perspective, Giants get outgained in this game four indred

1257
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: forty one yards to one fifty third downs. They tell

1258
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: the story nine of sixteen for the forty nine ers,

1259
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: just three of twelve for the Giants. Niners with thirty

1260
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: nine minutes and ten seconds of time of possession, the

1261
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: Giants just with twenty. This was not a big turnover game.

1262
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 4: You know.

1263
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: There was only one turnover in this game. It was

1264
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: the Daniel Jones interception, which really wasn't his fault. It

1265
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: was a pass to Darren Waller, Travady Tarvarius Ward and

1266
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: got his hand in there. The ball kind of got

1267
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: deflected up in the air and wound up in the

1268
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: hands of Tallanoa Hufunga. So that was only that one

1269
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: turnover for the Giants, and that was towards the end

1270
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: of the game when the game was already starting to

1271
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 2: get a little bit out of reach. Daniel Jones twenty

1272
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: two to thirty just one hundred and thirty seven yards,

1273
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: no touchdowns, that one pick Matt Brada. The Giants only

1274
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: rushed at eleven times in this game JC for twenty

1275
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: nine yards. Daniel Jones just five yards on two carries,

1276
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: Braida four for seventeen and that touchdown on that run

1277
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: of eight yards. Gary Bredwell four rushes for five yards.

1278
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: Eric Graid did not get a rush in this game,

1279
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: which I was surprised about. But we'll see if maybe

1280
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: depending on what Saquon's health is on that Monday night game,

1281
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: now that he confirmed it is in fact a high

1282
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 2: ankle sprain, if Greg gets a little into the mix there.

1283
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: Receiving for the Giants, Paris Cambell led the way with

1284
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: six catches, but just for twenty four yards, just four

1285
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: yards per catch. Four catches for Rondo Robinson just twenty

1286
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: one yards, just over five yards per catch. Darius Lene

1287
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: Lennen receiving yards with thirty two on three catches, including

1288
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: that seventeen yard catch on the nice back shoulder play.

1289
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: Gary Bradwell two catches for thirty one yards, and eighteen

1290
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: of those came out of play where he kind of

1291
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 2: leaked out of the backfield on a Jones rollout, caite

1292
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: a short pass and ran when he was left wide

1293
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: open just beyond the line of scrimmage. For the forty

1294
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: nine ers brought party, we mentioned it a little erratic

1295
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: with his throws still managed to complete twenty five to

1296
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: thirty seven for three hundred and ten yards and a

1297
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: pair of touchdowns, a one hundred and eleven quarterback rating.

1298
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey he almost felt he only played about half

1299
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: the snaps in this game for the forty nine ers.

1300
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: I'll try to get his snap count. Eighteen carries, eighty

1301
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: five yards and a touchdown. He also caught five passes

1302
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: for thirty four yards. Almost had another deep pass for

1303
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: a touchdown, but the ball was knocked out of his

1304
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: hands down the field. I believe it was.

1305
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: By Mike it was the penalty though it was, but

1306
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 3: that was a tremendous play by Bigfadden.

1307
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually saved the touchdown because I believe the

1308
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: Niners only ended up scoring a field goal on that drive.

1309
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: So that was a nice play by McFadden to get

1310
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 2: his hand in there to knock the ball away. Elijah

1311
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: Mitchell four rushed eleven rushes rather for forty two yards

1312
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: receiving for the Niners. We mentioned at Deebo Samuel six

1313
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: for one to twenty nine and that touchdown on the

1314
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: forty yard catch. George Kettle he was another guy that

1315
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: just rumbled after the catch. In this game seven catches

1316
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: for ninety yards, including a twenty nine yarder, and then

1317
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings, who started for Brandon Ayuk who did not

1318
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: play in this game, two catches for thirty one yards.

1319
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the phones here. Two to

1320
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: one nine three nine four five one three. We'll go

1321
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: to Tom and Komak. He's been holding the longest. Tom,

1322
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: what's going on?

1323
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 14: Hey, how are you first time call?

1324
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 11: Good?

1325
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: Thanks? Uh so?

1326
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 14: Like honestly, here, you do you seriously think that the

1327
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 14: New York Football Giants has playoff aspirations?

1328
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: Everybody?

1329
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: They certainly have playoff aspirations.

1330
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: For every team has playoff aspirations, no matter what, No

1331
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: I know.

1332
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 14: All right, let me reword that. Do you think there's

1333
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 14: a chance this team can sneak into a wildcard?

1334
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1335
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: Well Tom, let me Tom. I'll put it to you

1336
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: this way. Luckily, with the NFL and like college football

1337
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: point differential and that stuff doesn't really matter, right, And

1338
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: if you look at what happened last year and and Tom,

1339
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: hang with us. You know, the Giants had to blowout

1340
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: losses like this to the Philadelphia Eagles during the year

1341
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: one was you know, I know the last Game of

1342
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: the year you had. You know, they weren't playing their

1343
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: stars and all that stuff. The Giants did have two

1344
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 2: blowout losses like this during last season, just so happens

1345
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: with the schedule. It was in two out of the

1346
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: three first three games this year. So there is a

1347
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 2: way toybe to come back here. You're not gonna play

1348
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: the Niners every week. You're not gonna play the Cowboys

1349
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: every week now, or you're gonna have to go and

1350
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: beat a team like the Seahawks in a week. Yeah,

1351
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do that, but you're not gonna

1352
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: play teams of this caliber every week. The schedule is

1353
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: tougher than last year for sure, and the Giants and

1354
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: jac I think you agree with this, regardless of opponents.

1355
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 2: They have to play a better brand of football no

1356
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 2: matter who the opponent, if they do want to meet

1357
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: those playoff aspirations you're talking about, jac Is that fair?

1358
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very fair. And it's so early in the season.

1359
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's three games, and yeah, the Giants

1360
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: haven't looked good for three games. You know, they look

1361
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 3: good for one half of one of those games, but

1362
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: it's so early. It's still early. A lot of teams

1363
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: turn have turned it around from having poor starts in

1364
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: the beginning of the season. I was part of a

1365
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: Super Bowl team that had a poor start in the

1366
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 3: New England Patriots, and ended up, you know, finishing the

1367
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 3: season off very well. I'm not comparing you know, the

1368
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: team that I'm just saying. I've been a part of that.

1369
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 7: You know.

1370
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: So you you're not giving up, hope, you you definitely,

1371
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: you know, you know that the Giants need to improve,

1372
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: and the thing is, there's so much time to do so,

1373
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: you know, and guys are gonna get healthy. Andrew Thomas

1374
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 3: will be back soon, say Kwan. He's not gonna stay

1375
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 3: on the bench forever, you know, with his health. You know,

1376
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: so expect the Giants to play a better brand of

1377
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: football because they need to play a better brand of football.

1378
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: You hear we're saying that.

1379
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 14: I agree, Yeah, I mean, jac definitely don't compare this

1380
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 14: Giants team to the Patriots.

1381
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 10: That's that's part there.

1382
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, We're not doing that. Don't worry.

1383
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 10: I heard that.

1384
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 14: You know, this team's allowing thirty points a game, and

1385
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 14: now you have a Seahawks team that you know can

1386
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 14: score thirty points thousands, you know what the Dolphins do,

1387
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 14: and then the Bills. I mean, I just think if

1388
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 14: this team starts one in five, I think it's a

1389
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 14: hill that's too tall to climb, especially with I mean,

1390
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 14: I don't think this offense is I mean, second half

1391
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 14: against the Cardinals, you know, thirty one points or whatever,

1392
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 14: that's very impressive. I guess it's it is an NFL team,

1393
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 14: But I don't see this team being able to put

1394
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 14: up twenty five thirty points consistently.

1395
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, thanks for the call, but you know what,

1396
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to start putting up twenty to twenty

1397
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: five points consistently.

1398
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 22: M h.

1399
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: You know, in the NFL, if you're a good team,

1400
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: you're averaging twenty four to twenty eight points per game.

1401
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: That's how you win games in this league. Now, it's

1402
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: hard to win games by you know, scoring seventeen and

1403
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: holding a point of the fourteen. And Tom makes a

1404
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: good point. Look, it's not the Niners and the Cowboys

1405
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: coming up, but Seahawks can score. The Dolphins have maybe

1406
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: the most explosive offense in football right now, and the

1407
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: Bills have Josh Allen, so they are gonna have to

1408
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: score more points. And to Tom's point, the defense has

1409
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 2: to do their part too. You can't give up thirty

1410
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: points every week. That's not gonna work either.

1411
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I agree with Tom. If the Giants start

1412
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 3: off one and five, one and six, like, that's not

1413
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 3: looking really good. But it's so early now, you cannot

1414
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: write them off. There's no way you can write them off.

1415
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 3: If they continue to play like this for another few weeks,

1416
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 3: then okay, you know, like, but look, I expect them

1417
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 3: to improve, you know, I don't feel like they improved

1418
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 3: from week two to week three. I definitely think they

1419
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 3: improved from week one to week two, but mind you,

1420
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 3: the competition from week two to week three has been

1421
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 3: increased drastically. The forty nine ers are the cream of

1422
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: the crop in the entire NFL, not just the NFC.

1423
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 3: I mean, the last what three out of four years,

1424
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 3: they ended up in the NFC championship game. You know,

1425
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 3: Shanahan's definitely put together a great team built off this defense, right,

1426
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 3: and you can kind of plug and play quarterback. But

1427
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: then brock Perty didn't have an accurate game today. But

1428
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: he's been a great player for them, and he's eight

1429
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 3: and oh you know, he's not just the guy that

1430
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 3: they put out there. No, he's a very capable quarterback

1431
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 3: and he's given the ball to the most talented players

1432
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: in the league. McCaffrey is a dog Deebo, Samuel dog

1433
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 3: Kittle dog like, and Brandon Ayuk's out, you know, like

1434
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 3: they have a lot of talent, and defensively, they're probably

1435
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: even stronger defensively, you know, so the Giants aren't gonna

1436
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 3: face I think a monster like they faced in San

1437
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 3: Francisco this week. You know, I'm not saying it's gonna

1438
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: get easier, but at the same time, the Giants might

1439
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 3: have a little bit more space to make some things happen,

1440
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: both offensively and defensively.

1441
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: Anthony, rob and Chris, we will get to your calls

1442
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: at eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six,

1443
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 2: but for now, let's go downstairs or very own. Paul

1444
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: Deatino had a chance to talk one on one where

1445
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: one of the Giants defensive leaders, Dexter Lawrence. Let's listen

1446
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 2: in on that conversation.

1447
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 19: When you're depleted, that they again staying to deplete in

1448
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 19: terms of injuries down starters, and then I mean, I think,

1449
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 19: I think, I think guys came in and you know contributed.

1450
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 19: You know, that's why they're on the team. We all

1451
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 19: can play ball. And you know, I'm happy about how

1452
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 19: they you know, they came out. They just made more

1453
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 19: plays us and made the players when they needed.

1454
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 3: To make them.

1455
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 22: Third down is a big issue today. Yeah, is there

1456
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 22: something you could pull to that just wasn't clicking on

1457
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 22: that to kick it down?

1458
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 11: You know, they just out.

1459
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 19: They just look like they they just outplayed us on

1460
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 19: third down. And we have to do better at what

1461
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 19: those screens running to the ball and getting guys down.

1462
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 22: We all know how good McCaffrey is, but we don't

1463
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 22: get the chance to actually try to tackle him.

1464
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 11: How difficult is it to deal with that guy, to

1465
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 11: talk with him.

1466
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's tough.

1467
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he seems to slither through He slither.

1468
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 19: Through the I think I think no, honestly, I think McCaffrey.

1469
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 19: McCaffrey is a is a great player. Like you said,

1470
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 19: he you know they always break in tacles nineteen, you

1471
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 19: know eighty five. We just have to do a better

1472
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 19: job of bringing all those guys down.

1473
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: And you know, I love that answer there, JC from

1474
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: Dexter Pis Paul's like Oh, you know, Chris McCaffrey's tough

1475
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 2: to tackle. On Paul's right, he's very tough to tackle.

1476
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 2: But dexter. I think what he was doing there with

1477
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: the way he answered that question is that let's not

1478
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: give credit to the opposition while they're really good. You know,

1479
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: we had trouble tackled a bunch of different guys in

1480
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: this game, so it seemed to me he was trying

1481
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: to put the onus on himself and the Giants with

1482
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: the way he answered that question. I think that's what

1483
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: you want to hear from your leaders on defense.

1484
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 3: No, absolutely looks like the film is that, Like we're

1485
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 3: gonna see it on film, Like I'm gonna watch this

1486
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 3: game again, you know, and I'm pretty sure. Look, I

1487
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 3: got I got my eyepad open while the TV's going

1488
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 3: in the radio on, so I'm kind of watching this

1489
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 3: thing at least twice as it's happening. I'm gonna go

1490
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 3: ahead and watch it again. But I'm pretty sure what

1491
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: I saw. You know, it wasn't just one person missing

1492
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 3: a tackle on one person. There were several guys missing

1493
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: tackles on every single player that right and rushed the ball.

1494
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: The ball running to the ball on those screens like

1495
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 2: they just one enough. There was always everything was a

1496
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: one on one tackle. There was like no gang tackles

1497
01:10:58,479 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: in this game.

1498
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 3: You have to over populate the ball, you know, and

1499
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 3: that's defensive lineman getting off blocks, that's defensive backs taking

1500
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: proper angles. That's the linebackers taking proper angles and getting

1501
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: off of blocks. And it just haven't been you know,

1502
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 3: a population at the ball from the defense, and it

1503
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,400
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01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 2: He's up next. Hey Chris, Hey, how's it going. What's up? Chris?

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Speaker 10: How you doing today?

1530
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: We're good?

1531
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 10: All right.

1532
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 21: I think the Giants. I think the Giants had a

1533
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 21: good road trip coming out to Arizon. It was a

1534
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 21: big comeback for that team. They they gained us a

1535
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 21: lot of their confidence back ran to a top San

1536
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 21: Francisco team home on a short week. Russ Cartree team's

1537
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 21: a little beat up, but I think they'll be able

1538
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 21: to straighten out the team going to Seattle, and you

1539
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,879
Speaker 21: know there is any reason the fanatics just yet. Defense

1540
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 21: finally started to come alive. But Dave, Dave, you're cooking

1541
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 21: up the stielder thirty downs tonight. So you know that

1542
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 21: that was a big breaking point for the jam.

1543
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. And Anthony appreciate the call. And JC, Look,

1544
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 2: you want to put the season in quarters, that's fine.

1545
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: You know, try to figure out a way to be

1546
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 2: two and two through four games and I think you'll

1547
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 2: be okay. And if you want to put the season

1548
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: into thirds, figure out a way to be two and

1549
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 2: four or preferably three and three after six games. And

1550
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: you know what if even if you're a worst case

1551
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: scenario two and four after six games, you're fine. If

1552
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: you play well your final eleven games of the year,

1553
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: you can make the playoffs. But you know, just try

1554
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 2: to be two and two, try to get the three

1555
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 2: and three if you can, and then get Saque healthy,

1556
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: get Andrew Thomas healthy, and then just start playing better

1557
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: football and the wins will start racking up.

1558
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I appreciate the optimism, you know. Yeah, the

1559
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 3: last caller I.

1560
01:13:58,439 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: Feeling there's not gonna be much more of that time.

1561
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 3: I gotta show my respect, man, you know, because it's

1562
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 3: a very rough night, you know, when this is the

1563
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: only game you know that's on. Everybody's looking forward to

1564
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 3: Thursday night football, you know, a little break in the

1565
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 3: week of no football from Monday to Sunday, and then

1566
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 3: you finally get a football game and it's not you know,

1567
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 3: the best effort from your team. You know, I understand

1568
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 3: why a lot of fans are upset and get mad

1569
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 3: over this stuff, because, you know, as a fan now, Schmelkey,

1570
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 3: I understand that I didn't get that when I was playing,

1571
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 3: but I definitely understand it now being on the outside

1572
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 3: and looking as a fan and as a you know,

1573
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm affiliate of the of the team, but you know,

1574
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 3: I get it, man, And we all feel the same way,

1575
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 3: you know, we all want the Giants to perform better,

1576
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 3: but nobody feels it more than that locker room, you know.

1577
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 3: So I definitely think there's high character guys in that

1578
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 3: locker room. Darren Waller being a guy I think of

1579
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 3: right away who had a couple of plays where he

1580
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 3: dropped a couple I think he's gonna take it upon

1581
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 3: himself to do more, be better, and he has to

1582
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,520
Speaker 3: because the Giants paid him to do that. He believes

1583
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 3: that he's that guy, and the Giants believe that he's

1584
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 3: that guy. So I think when you take an individual

1585
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: like that and he goes and thinks about things the

1586
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 3: way he does, because I watch a lot of content

1587
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 3: from him away from football, just the stuff that he has.

1588
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: He's a very high character guys. And the Giants locker

1589
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 3: room is filled with those guys. John Yep, they did

1590
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 3: a great job in bringing in the high character guy,

1591
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 3: so I definitely expect them to go ahead and improve

1592
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 3: from here. And look, I think it was a big

1593
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 3: reality check, a big smack in their faces, and hopefully

1594
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 3: it was a wake up call and we do get

1595
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: some better performances from top players like Waller and Dexter Lawrence.

1596
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 2: Well, let's hear from that high character guy, Darren Waller.

1597
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: He's one of the leaders of this team. He addressed

1598
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: the media in the locker room after the game. Let's

1599
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: listen in.

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Speaker 11: I mean, yes, another one, or he's having your hands

1601
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 11: on that. You gotta make it money.

1602
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 9: It's like, yeah, run across the field like that turn

1603
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 9: is difficult, but uh something, Mom, sit here and make it.

1604
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 16: E's use for it because it's the radius, Daron, Why

1605
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 16: don't you think that that's some of the the really

1606
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 16: strong play we were seeing from you in your training

1607
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 16: camp hasn't.

1608
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 11: Yet transition to the regular season. Why it's it a

1609
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 11: little bit quieter to start the regular season. Maybe it

1610
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 11: wasn't there any yet.

1611
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 3: I think that's gone.

1612
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 9: It's like things are a process sometimes. Uh, results don't

1613
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 9: come the way that you like in the quantity that

1614
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 9: you like. You know it as soon as you like

1615
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 9: them to happen sometimes and uh, just a matter of

1616
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 9: staying in the process. I know that I've had, you know,

1617
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 9: times in my careers like to feel like you you

1618
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 9: can't miss out there. Then sometimes it's like alright, like

1619
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 9: you know, I've had, you know, gigs like out there

1620
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 9: like they didn't have ten yards, you know what I'm saying.

1621
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 9: So it's it's just a matter of like staying in

1622
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,839
Speaker 9: a minute. I know what they is capable of of myself,

1623
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 9: I know what Skipper's from the offense, and it's just

1624
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 9: a matter of just keep going.

1625
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 23: Why was it so tough to really kind of get

1626
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 23: anything going on offensively.

1627
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 9: I mean, you gotta give them credit to it's just

1628
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 9: one of the top defensive of your last few years.

1629
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 9: We gotta day go apply pressure the web that can

1630
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 9: get you to play behind the sticks sometimes and uh

1631
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 9: that that puts you at disadvantage, makes you have to,

1632
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 9: you know, make hero plays when if you stay ahead

1633
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 9: of the sticks, make those cause some plays get ahead

1634
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 9: on early downs. You can make it easy for you

1635
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 9: to sustain drive, you know, cause whoever.

1636
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 23: You do that, how about you have there's like altered

1637
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 23: your game plan with did you down some guys and

1638
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 23: great passer I think and you guys were doing something

1639
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 23: grims and you're doing that, so maybe typically.

1640
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, we gotta fu you know, I think things start with, uh,

1641
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 9: the protection you know, starts in the trenches. So you

1642
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 9: gotta be able to give the quarterback time and you

1643
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 9: will be sacrificing opportunities for me to run out on routes.

1644
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 9: And it's like, you know, whatever the game plan is,

1645
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 9: I gotta be a a teammate and and and trust

1646
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 9: that that's what's gonna work. But yeah, you gotta start

1647
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 9: with protecting the quarterback first, and we have to make

1648
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 9: some changes and to to be able to make that happen,

1649
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 9: and uh, you know you just gotta aks you better down.

1650
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 8: Obviously there's always the X those that can you guys

1651
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 8: do break down the film and say able to kind

1652
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 8: of bits better would you do that better?

1653
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 19: Do you take anything from how you can peeded tonight

1654
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 19: against this team of that caliber?

1655
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

1656
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean big shouts to the defense first and foremost,

1657
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 9: uh continuing to you know, get stops or holding the

1658
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 9: field goals to whereas like was twenty to twelve for

1659
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 9: a minute, and it's like that one word that crossing

1660
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 9: the road, we didn't connect over the middle field. It's

1661
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 9: like that's something that could get a huge play, huge

1662
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 9: women and play to keep you in the game and

1663
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 9: go down and and and get seven. And even like

1664
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 9: that slant in the first half right before halftime, it's

1665
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 9: like you're supposed to getting the field goal and going

1666
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 9: down eleven, it's like, okay, like we could have gotten

1667
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 9: sexual the potentially led to a touchdown cause that would

1668
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 9: have been a big play too. So yeah, I mean

1669
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 9: like like give a lot of crazy the defense, you like,

1670
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 9: crust of the offense as well, like we could have

1671
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 9: folded some earlier and you know, it's a little the

1672
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 9: place that we didn't hit it where you know, it

1673
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 9: can be very discouraging. But to just go back out

1674
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 9: there and and your team to fight, as you know,

1675
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 9: that's what you gotta do.

1676
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 11: As a pro.

1677
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 23: And what is this like you this team right now

1678
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 23: in your bucks you wanted to had a couple of

1679
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 23: losses come home? What do you want your thoughts and

1680
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 23: where you're.

1681
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 11: Not where you're are?

1682
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, Uh, it's it's uh, you know, a lot of

1683
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 9: football that we don't feel like it's uh reflective of

1684
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 9: our best and what we're capable of.

1685
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 11: And you know what we feel like the fans deserves,

1686
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 11: organization deserves.

1687
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 10: But you know, we go home.

1688
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 9: First off, we can rest, you know, two games in

1689
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 9: five days, it seems it is tough for anyone, and uh,

1690
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 9: you know, and start buying games for the Seahawks and

1691
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 9: and taking care of that one at home, because that's

1692
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 9: something we didn't do week one, and like that's a

1693
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 9: good way to you know, just start there, and it's

1694
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 9: a good way to build some momentary interception.

1695
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 3: He his hand on that or is that once?

1696
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 23: Did that come into you?

1697
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 11: I couldn't tell the tip one at the end. Yeah,

1698
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 11: I mean, they they jumped the slant for sure.

1699
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 9: That was my third slant of the night, so they

1700
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 9: were you know, kind of teed up on that and

1701
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 9: Ward made a great play on the ball, and uh

1702
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 9: but yeah, since I gotta find a way to even

1703
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 9: in traffic make that play because any titball where you know,

1704
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 9: there's a lot of unfenders around, that's that's bad business.

1705
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 11: So for me, I gotta be somebody that doesn't allow

1706
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 11: it to happen.

1707
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: JC no surprise, Darren Waller taking the blame for the

1708
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: players where he thought he took, you know, maybe came

1709
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: up a little bit short on you know, talked about

1710
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: slant that he could have caught, talked about knocking the

1711
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: ball down into the game when it turned into a pick,

1712
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 2: and then the high pass over the middle where he said, look,

1713
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: it's tough, but I got two ends on the ball,

1714
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: I should catch it. And that's why Darren Waller is

1715
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 2: a good teammate and one of the leaders of this team.

1716
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, but look, Tavarius Ward, he was all over

1717
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 3: Waller on some of them plays, you know, and it

1718
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 3: wasn't always him covering them, but the San Francisco forty

1719
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 3: nine Ers defense played extremely well, like it.

1720
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: Wasn't really good.

1721
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are really good. Like Drake Greenlaw gets no

1722
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 3: really props or anything. If he was on the team

1723
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 3: by himself, he would be all pro type of guy.

1724
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 3: But Fred Warner gets all attention, right and Nick Bosa

1725
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 3: of course that he gets all attention too. But there

1726
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 3: are other guys along that defensive line that are tremendously good.

1727
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 3: Our Grave is good. We've seen him, you know, multiple

1728
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 3: times last year for the Phidelfi Eagles. He had eleven

1729
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 3: sacks last year. Halfunga one of the best safeties in

1730
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 3: the NFL. They're loaded on defense. I just thought that

1731
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 3: there were some plays that really didn't involved talent, that

1732
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 3: involved effort that I think they out efforted the Giants,

1733
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 3: not just outplayed them because they're better than them, but

1734
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: because they out effort them. And I think that's the

1735
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 3: result of the score that you see here.

1736
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: Well, let's hear from one of the veterans of the

1737
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 2: Giants defense downstairs that Dorry Jackson talked to the media

1738
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 2: after the Giants loss.

1739
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 11: It's a long season.

1740
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 5: On the three games, yeah, we still got fourteen more

1741
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 5: to go, So you can't hung your head too low

1742
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 5: and even if you will, you can't hold your head

1743
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 5: too high, you know what I mean.

1744
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 11: You gotta be a humble take you with a grand sound,

1745
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:32,839
Speaker 11: gonna keep working.

1746
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 3: Down.

1747
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 5: Like I told, I don't know who I have just said,

1748
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 5: were executing. We didn't talking well, he wasn't. We had

1749
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 5: a long situations, We had a you know, he was

1750
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 5: winning first second games, and then we just didn't Tapen

1751
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 5: was gonna execute me.

1752
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 4: Know a something?

1753
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: Third downs the story for sure, the Giants unable to

1754
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: get off the field. We talked about the Niners nine

1755
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: of sixteen on third downs, and it was really even

1756
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: better than that JCB. Some of those non conversions came

1757
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: at the end of the game, so they're actually probably

1758
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: is a little bit better than what that nine of

1759
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 2: sixteen number might show. All right, let's say what more

1760
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: call before we take a break. Let's go to Robin

1761
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: farming Dell. He's been holding the longest. What's up, Robbie?

1762
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 18: Hey, how you doing?

1763
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:15,759
Speaker 16: Guys?

1764
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 18: You know, when I look at the New York Giants,

1765
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 18: I look at it from a macro perspective. You know,

1766
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 18: they were they got to the divisional round last year,

1767
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 18: and I think the goal was for them to take

1768
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 18: that next step. But when I look at their last

1769
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 18: game against what is the NFC elite Dallas, sanfran and Philly,

1770
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 18: they've been outscored one o eight to nineteen and two

1771
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 18: of those games of this year, and I just don't

1772
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 18: see them as a serious team.

1773
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 17: And you know, the Seattle game, this is the biggest

1774
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 17: game on the schedule because if they lose this game

1775
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 17: at home, they got to go to Miami, they got

1776
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 17: to go to Buffalo. Now you're talking one in five

1777
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 17: and this season unravels quickly.

1778
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 3: Tronquiloa Rober Rob Rob.

1779
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, man, but look the Giants in

1780
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: their last games against the elite teams of the conference.

1781
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 2: They've until they show us otherwise at this point, JC,

1782
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: they're not right now at that level based on how

1783
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 2: they've played against the Eagles, Cowboys and forty nine Ers.

1784
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 3: No, And the thing that we were saying the entire

1785
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 3: offseason Schmolke was did they close the gap?

1786
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna say that ever again, by the way,

1787
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 2: and I was the king of closed the gap. I

1788
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: was closing gaps left and right, and yeah, I mean,

1789
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 2: so far the gap has not been closed.

1790
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: And the proof is in the putting. The Giants have

1791
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 3: not done it, if I mean, if anything, it looked

1792
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 3: like they're a little bit further away this year. But

1793
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 3: the good thing about this is is that it's so

1794
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 3: early in the season. It is only three games in,

1795
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 3: and they do have fourteen games left, and they can

1796
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 3: make those fourteen games very good. You know, they can

1797
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 3: be very competitive in those fourteen games. The first you know,

1798
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 3: two out of the first three games, they weren't really competitive,

1799
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 3: the first game being not so competitive. In three quarters

1800
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 3: today they were kind of competitive today. But I like

1801
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 3: I said, I think day Ball, Joe Shane, they did

1802
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 3: a great job in bringing in high character guys. But

1803
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: when you bring in new pieces and you're inserting all

1804
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 3: of these pieces into the lineup, it takes a while

1805
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 3: to go ahead and jail and mesh together. And I

1806
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 3: think you're seeing the Giants have frustration because they haven't

1807
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 3: all jailed all the way together quite yet. They haven't

1808
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 3: figured out along the offensive line the right I think match,

1809
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: or if they had the right match, they did, it

1810
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 3: didn't last long because Andrew Thomas got hurt in week

1811
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 3: one and he is the best, the best thing that

1812
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 3: we have on the offensive line. And then you got

1813
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 3: to look at some guys that I think that they

1814
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 3: added in that are playing I think very well. And

1815
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 3: I think that's John Michael Smith's, you know, I think

1816
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 3: he's having a great start to this his first year.

1817
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 3: I think Bobby okara Ka is having a great start

1818
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 3: to his first season with the New York Giants.

1819
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't one of the guys that misstackles tonight

1820
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 2: as far as I could tell on the first few weeks.

1821
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when he comes, he you know, when he

1822
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 3: you know, feels into the hole or when he's making

1823
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,919
Speaker 3: a tackle, he brings it. You know, he tackles very violently,

1824
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 3: you know. And I just hope the guys feed off

1825
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 3: of people like that who are playing at a high level,

1826
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 3: and day Ball, you know, picks those guys out and

1827
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 3: shows the effort that some guys are making. And even

1828
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 3: look Wandale Robinson very limited, you know, four catches tonight,

1829
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: you know, not too much, you know, five point three

1830
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 3: average to only twenty one yards. But man, I've seen

1831
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: him like going after that ball that was that was

1832
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 3: popped up in the air faster than everybody else. Schmolkey.

1833
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 3: I pay attention to stuff like that. And I know

1834
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 3: the coaches are too, and they're gonna highlight those things.

1835
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: And I hope the other players can feed off of

1836
01:25:55,320 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 3: guys like that, because you need all eleven guys doing that,

1837
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 3: not one or two on every other play. You need

1838
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 3: eleving guys that act like that ball is the most

1839
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 3: important thing in life, because when you're playing football during

1840
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 3: that play, it is. And that's just what it is.

1841
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 2: And we will hear from two of those guys, Bobby

1842
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: o'carake and one Bill Robinson. We return for a couple

1843
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 2: more segments of Giants Extra point presented by PEPSI. When

1844
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: we return, Berdy in.

1845
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 12: A shotgun set, they empty out the backfield. Giants scramble

1846
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 12: a little bit. Bertie takes the snap back to throw sets,

1847
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 12: delivers it left for Kittle, stiff arms the man for

1848
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 12: the forty to the thirty five to the thirty and

1849
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 12: knockout of boves up the twenty five yard line.

1850
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: Dame of twenty seven. That George Kittle twenty nine yard

1851
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 2: catch the final play of the third quarter was our

1852
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 2: Giants turning point of the game. Listen to Boomer and

1853
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: Gail on our flagship station WFN tomorrow morning. In a

1854
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 2: nine am hour for the Giants turning point of the

1855
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 2: game contest. The first gret called a name the game's

1856
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: turning point, we'll win two tickets to an upcoming Giants

1857
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 2: home game. That play was on the Niners drive after

1858
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: the Giants made it a one score game, twenty to twelve,

1859
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 2: and it's set up a Niners field goal, and then

1860
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,799
Speaker 2: they would score on their following drive the Deebo Samuel

1861
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: twenty seven yard touchdown to extend their lead to thirty

1862
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 2: to twelve and put the game away. You mentioned Wondol Robinson.

1863
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: He made his return in this game from that torn

1864
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: acl he suffered towards the end of last season. A

1865
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,560
Speaker 2: royal Paul Deatino talk to him one on one in

1866
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: the locker room about his first game back.

1867
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 22: Find I know it's not the way you wanted the

1868
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 22: Knight to go, which for you to be able to

1869
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 22: get back on the field and contribute and actually the

1870
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 22: any game and make some catchers have to.

1871
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 11: Feel good back.

1872
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 24: I mean it felt great, obviously. I think it would

1873
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 24: obviously feel a little bit better with that win. So

1874
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 24: I just want to do whatever I can to help

1875
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 24: us get the w s after having.

1876
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 11: To wait so long to get back on the field.

1877
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 22: What was it like pregame warm up and did you

1878
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 22: kind of have the butterflies and the jitters early?

1879
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 24: Yeah, definitely just getting back out there, obviously at being

1880
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 24: almost was almost a year now from being out on

1881
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 24: the football field. So I was just excited and grateful

1882
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 24: to be back and just trying to soak it all in.

1883
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: Did you think about the injury at all?

1884
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 11: Did it take a hit to get over.

1885
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 22: It and then let it let it go behind you?

1886
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 24: See, that's what I really wanted to get everything out

1887
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 24: of practice, telling Daves and Joe exactly what I needed

1888
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 24: from practice, the way I went out to the games,

1889
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 24: just not thinking about it at all.

1890
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 11: And today was actually one of those days.

1891
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 24: I woke up and I just was kind of like,

1892
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 24: this knee feels good today, and so it was it

1893
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 24: was a good feeling that I woke up today.

1894
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 22: Okay, So this was step one to get you back

1895
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 22: at in a game.

1896
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 11: What is step two?

1897
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 22: What's the next litmus test for you? Which you continue

1898
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:30,799
Speaker 22: to progress?

1899
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 24: I mean, I would say it's just the volume of everything.

1900
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 24: Just continue to get more and more obviously having more

1901
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 24: and more reps out there on the field, and get

1902
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 24: more and more reps in practice with Daniel and just

1903
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 24: continuing to grow with him.

1904
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 3: Oh you were able to see.

1905
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 22: By looking at this offense from the sideline and now

1906
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 22: in the game where you guys might be able to

1907
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 22: push forward.

1908
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, definitely.

1909
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 24: I mean, obviously we have the little opads over there

1910
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 24: and we see just the little mistakes that we might

1911
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 24: be making, and we know exactly how close we are.

1912
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 24: We just got to hone it onto all the details

1913
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 24: and just get this thing right for Monday night.

1914
01:28:58,200 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 3: Thanks one, Dale.

1915
01:28:58,760 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 11: Great to see you back out.

1916
01:28:59,720 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1917
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 2: So, j C. What do you think the progression now

1918
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: is for Waldel Robinson? I gotta imagine as he gets healthier,

1919
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: he's I think has a real good chance of taking

1920
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 2: over that primary starting inside slot receiver role.

1921
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I think so. Whenever I've seen him on

1922
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 3: the field, he looks dynamic, he looks explosively. It looks tough,

1923
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 3: you know. He looks like I remember a young Victor

1924
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 3: kruz Man when me and Victor was young in this

1925
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 3: league man and Victor looked like a running back whenever

1926
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 3: he got that ball in the slot.

1927
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 2: You're a little bit bigger than Wandel, though, right.

1928
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 3: But Wandell plays big. He plays big. He's very physical

1929
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 3: and like I said, I seen him at several times

1930
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 3: today maybe doing things outside of him just catching the ball,

1931
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 3: you know, being very physical, being very active, you know,

1932
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 3: trying to get that ball when the ball was popped

1933
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 3: up in the air, you know. And I think, look,

1934
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 3: if that kid can stay healthy. Man, I thought I

1935
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 3: saw something earlier, you know, and I was like, man,

1936
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 3: no way, he went down so early in the game,

1937
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 3: and it was early in his first catch, you know.

1938
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 3: But I think the sky's the limit for that kid.

1939
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 3: And you know, he's another guy that when when the

1940
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 3: Giants can't get the ball down the field to a

1941
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 3: guy like Jalen Hyatt, that's what Wandeale Robinson can flourish

1942
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 3: because he's gonna be a guy that's working among the linebackers,

1943
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 3: you know. And it's hard Schmelke to cover those guys, bro,

1944
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 3: It's really hard to cover those guys that play over

1945
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 3: the middle, that three two three in the receiver of rotation.

1946
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 3: You know, it's very hard to cover those guys because

1947
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 3: those guys are working around the linebackers in safety areas

1948
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 3: and they always find ways to get open. They always

1949
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 3: find the ways to create after they catch, and I think, Wandal, look,

1950
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 3: the sky's the limit for him. And we've just seen

1951
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 3: a floor right now. And I think as the season

1952
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 3: progresses and he starts getting more healthy and they don't

1953
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: have them on pitch count, you know, towards the end

1954
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 3: of the year, I think we're gonna see him flourish.

1955
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Mark and Seaford. He's up next. Mark,

1956
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 2: you're on PEPSI Giants extra point on the fan.

1957
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 10: How about the roughing the passer on Leonard Williams.

1958
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, now, look, I I know

1959
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 2: you don't like the call.

1960
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 4: Mark that it was horrible. The ball wasn't his hand yet.

1961
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's I hate it too, dude.

1962
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 2: And look, we we had a call with the league

1963
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 2: talking about rules earlier this year and I asked a

1964
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 2: question on the call with the league, and I said,

1965
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: what do you look for when you call the full

1966
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: body weight of the player on the quarterback penalty? And

1967
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: they said, what they look for is that if the

1968
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 2: knees of the defensive player don't hit the ground first

1969
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 2: before the back of the quarterback, that's the that's kind

1970
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 2: of the definition of what the full body weight is,

1971
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 2: and that to me, looking at the play, that was

1972
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 2: exactly the type of play they were talking about with

1973
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 2: full body weight. JC as a defensive player. You could

1974
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 2: argue whether or not that rule is fair to defensive players,

1975
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: and I understand that. But the rule of the way

1976
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 2: it is, that's full body weight, and I understand why

1977
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 2: that I was called.

1978
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 3: Even the illegal contact with Kevon Thibadeau, I think it

1979
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 3: was kittle.

1980
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 2: That I thought that was side five yards.

1981
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 3: No, I think it was like a five and a half.

1982
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: Usually they let him get away.

1983
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 14: With it.

1984
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 10: Just like that.

1985
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 2: What I didn't like. I didn't like that call, to

1986
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 2: be honest with.

1987
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 3: You, right, No, I hear you, and and Mark, I

1988
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 3: feel the same way you did. I feel the same way.

1989
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 3: I played defense my entire life, right, And I could

1990
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 3: just imagine me getting that amazing hit on a quarterback

1991
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 3: and I get fined for that, or I get a

1992
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 3: penalty for that. I'll be pissed, you know, But that's

1993
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 3: the rules of the game, now, guys.

1994
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 4: One more question. Yeah, I watched the entire Lion game

1995
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 4: and Hutchinson was held almost every play and they didn't

1996
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 4: call a flag on any of it.

1997
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 3: Bro, this is an offensive league. Bro, you didn't know that.

1998
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 2: Appreciate the call.

1999
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 3: Mark, You didn't Mark, you didn't know this is an

2000
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 3: offensive league. You know, they anything. Those offensive linemen hold

2001
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 3: every single play, so not just play as you were

2002
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 3: watching Adie Hudgerson. They he they hold every single play.

2003
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 3: But the thing is the refs don't call it, you know.

2004
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 3: And and like, this is an offensive driven league. They

2005
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 3: are going to try to protect quarterbacks. They are gonna

2006
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 3: try to protect defense. He's receivers. That's what the game

2007
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 3: has evolved to.

2008
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 4: You know.

2009
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 3: I remember Schmokey when I was when I was growing up.

2010
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 3: You know, even I think early when I was in

2011
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 3: the league, my early years, they had a show called

2012
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 3: Jacked Up where you saw big hits every week, you know,

2013
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 3: and you couldn't wait to watch it. Now, they they

2014
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 3: wouldn't dare to have a show like that. They would

2015
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 3: not dare to have a show like that because they're

2016
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 3: trying to get that stuff out of the league. Does

2017
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 3: it take a little bit away from the defense, yes,

2018
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 3: Does it take away from uh, the hits of the game, yes,

2019
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 3: But they're doing it to protect the players and to

2020
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 3: hopefully extend careers. Which I don't think that's a bad initiative.

2021
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 2: You know, you want to want to have your best

2022
01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 2: players on the field as much as you can, and

2023
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: that is why they're what they're trying to right, Yeah,

2024
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 2: and then trying to keep keep the guys healthy long term. Two,

2025
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 2: which is obviously players safety has been a big part

2026
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 2: of what the league's trying to do. Let's go downstairs,

2027
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 2: Bobby Okake one are the Giants defensive leaders met the

2028
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 2: media after the game.

2029
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 16: I thought we executed well on the first to set

2030
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 16: it down, showed good fight stop in the run. We

2031
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 16: just gotta axe you a lot better off.

2032
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 11: There down, How did that game and your fility?

2033
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 16: Just say, I thought we stayed aggressive on defense in

2034
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 16: all game. You know they made some plays in the

2035
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 16: run game too.

2036
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 11: They're a great football team. But obviously no excuses. We

2037
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 11: just gotta execute better and we've got a better result.

2038
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 16: Can we put an emphasis on having a fast start,

2039
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 16: and you know we delivered on that today.

2040
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 11: We just got to sustain our execution, by.

2041
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 16: Which they're good playmakers, really good playmakers, and they made

2042
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 16: plays after the catch that was the deciding.

2043
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 22: Like Bob, but even to all the ups and downs,

2044
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 22: of the first three quarters, there was only one score

2045
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 22: game going into the fourth, and then it's when they

2046
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 22: were able to pay the lead.

2047
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 11: How to score would him?

2048
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 16: I mean, it's tough. They're a good football team, really

2049
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 16: good football team. But you know, we believe we're a

2050
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 16: really good football team too. So we just got to

2051
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 16: keep chopping wood, get back to work this week and

2052
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 16: you know, get ready for our exponent.

2053
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 22: Talk about the execution, what does that take you guys?

2054
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, obviously we need to put more of

2055
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 16: emises on tackling. We have a lot of mistackles across

2056
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 16: the board, different positions an execution.

2057
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 3: Guys just gonna do their job.

2058
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 11: Start with me.

2059
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 16: I gotta play a lot better and we'll atta. I mean,

2060
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 16: I know we need the games happen.

2061
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 14: I haven't had a chance to much.

2062
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 11: Just lack of impact, you know, you know some places.

2063
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 11: But I gotta make more players to help this defense,

2064
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 11: this team.

2065
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 2: Winning third down in miss tackles. Jonathan, it's been kind

2066
01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: of the theme of what a lot of the guys

2067
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 2: down in the locker room had and saying I think

2068
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 2: they kind of hit it on the head. And we

2069
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 2: talked about a halftime how the run defense in the

2070
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 2: first half really needed to improve. Just to go back

2071
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 2: to the number is. At the half, the Niners had

2072
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 2: ran it nineteen times for eighty nine yards, not a

2073
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 2: great number. But in the second half they ran it

2074
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 2: twenty times and they gained just fifty two yards. So

2075
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 2: it got much better in the second half in terms

2076
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: of stopping the run on early downs.

2077
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you gotta take away something. You got to

2078
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,560
Speaker 3: take away some positives, you know, from a loss, you know,

2079
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 3: And I think that's something that you can definitely hang

2080
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 3: a hat on that you improved when you knew that

2081
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 3: they were going to run the ball a little bit

2082
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 3: more in the second half. And I mean that's what

2083
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 3: nineteen to twenty, So it's really not that big of

2084
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 3: a difference, you know, but the yards per carry definitely

2085
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:51,640
Speaker 3: went down. Look, you gotta take any positive you can

2086
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 3: from a loss like this, and you know, that's something

2087
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 3: that you can hang you out on at least a

2088
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 3: little bit.

2089
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 2: I guess, all right, Robbie and Lenox is our final call, Robbi,

2090
01:36:59,680 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: what's up?

2091
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 4: Take guy? Tell WHI God like to take you like call?

2092
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 10: It's some funny I go way back with you for

2093
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 10: so many years of the fans.

2094
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so obvious that this team that they stink

2095
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 4: in the trendships. I mean every year the same thing

2096
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 4: that look Thomas is out. You gotta get him back,

2097
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 4: You gotta get far Fleet back. Obviously. But when I

2098
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 4: look at the schedule and I look at the teams

2099
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 4: that they play, okay, and I look at the personnel

2100
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 4: on other teams, why can't the Giants ever go out

2101
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 4: and get a star player that can wait, they can

2102
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 4: break the break down the field. Why can't the Giants

2103
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 4: ever get a defensive guy that can impact the game.

2104
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 4: I'll never forget sitting there going take Michael Parsons, and

2105
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 4: take Michael Parsons, what does Getleman do? I mean Cale

2106
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 4: just put gel and just put this team so far back.

2107
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 4: But I mean players like you know I said, talk

2108
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 4: about Leonard Williams, I talk about a these are glary,

2109
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,839
Speaker 4: talk about Tibodeau. It's like these guys can't the tackling

2110
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 4: the process on how many years that we've seen then

2111
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 4: give a big bulk plays on third down and espect

2112
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 4: just this regime they put back ten years at least

2113
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 4: more contin uyears where the Giants cannot stop third down

2114
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 4: plays where the Giants cannot win. Why they Okay, he's say,

2115
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 4: why are you running the ball? Levin Tom's Knight? That's

2116
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 4: one And this was what tries to me crazy Brian Table,

2117
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 4: what the hell you doing going for two points in

2118
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 4: the third quarter? Stop chasing the points? When he Brandon

2119
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 4: Staleya look at his loud he except he's gonna be

2120
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,799
Speaker 4: gone next week after they lose their third game the Chargers.

2121
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 4: So I mean, I just don't understand why you run

2122
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 4: the ball eleven. Sometimes Matt Breede can run, Gary brightwlls

2123
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 4: the guy. It's the whole hard It's like, why hit

2124
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 4: not try to establish some kind of running game to

2125
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 4: set up you know, Danny is best when he's in

2126
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 4: play action. Let's be honest. He's a He's a better

2127
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 4: quarterback when he has a chance to play fast. And

2128
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 4: I agree with you, Rondell's got talent. We'll see what's

2129
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 4: going on with Hyatt and to see if he can

2130
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 4: stretch the steelmore. But it's just like, there's nobody that

2131
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 4: scares you on this team. Nobody goes in to play

2132
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 4: the Giants say, oh, we got to block him and

2133
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 4: make sure that he's taking care of Oh, we got

2134
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 4: to watch up for this particular receiver. You know, they

2135
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 4: had a chance to get d Hockey wanted to come

2136
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 4: to the Giant and Giants said, no, we don't want

2137
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,600
Speaker 4: to stall you. And I don't know how great you

2138
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 4: know Deep doing the last last week with his returning

2139
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 4: his injuries. But I mean, they never have anybody that

2140
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 4: scares you on this team. Just makes me fearful, you know,

2141
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 4: on offensive defense. And I don't understand the tackling. I

2142
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 4: really don't. And the thing too is that this team

2143
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 4: never takes away to football. Why can't they create more turnovers?

2144
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Speaker 4: Like why can't they be more of an aggressive defense?

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01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,799
Speaker 4: I don't was an aggressive you know, de defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: It just seems like they're not aggressive as much as

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Speaker 4: they were lest there. Anyway, thanks guys, do a great

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Speaker 4: job and appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: So thanks, thanks Robby. I believe the phrase is there

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01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 2: a lot to impact there? That was just rapid fire

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01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 2: facts and opinions. There more opinion, Robbie, all right, yes,

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01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 2: all right, let me hit a couple things quickly. He

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01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:40,839
Speaker 2: mentioned that Daniel's best in play action last year, actually

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01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 2: his production play action versus non play action was almost identical,

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01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 2: so that was not the case last year. Necessarily, we

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01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 2: went through some of those analytics on a Big Blue

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01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 2: Kickoff live over the summer. JC. I do think his

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01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 2: general point about needing game breakers and game changers on

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01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball to make some more big

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01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 2: plays over the first three weeks, I think that has

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01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 2: some validity to it. I do think there are some

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01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 2: players on this team that are capable of doing that.

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01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 2: I look at Saquon Barkley, who obviously was injured for

2164
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 2: tonight's games, so he wasn't there to do it today.

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Speaker 2: I think Darren Waller could do that, he was not

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01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 2: able to do that today. And I think on defense,

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01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 2: you hope Dexter Lawrence is that guy, and he's had

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Speaker 2: some quarterback since he's had some pressures. But I know

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01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 2: you've brought it up a couple times already. He has

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Speaker 2: not had a sack or made any of those game

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Speaker 2: changing plays either. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, I hear you, Robbie, I hear your frustration. I

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01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 3: think we all kind of feel the way that he

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Speaker 3: felt during that call and his energy. We get it.

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Speaker 3: Me and schmeil Ken, I don't.

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01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Think all of us have that energy maybe to Tino.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure the.

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Speaker 2: Rest of us do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I understand, you know, and the Giants do

2180
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 3: have some premier players, you know, you named one in

2181
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence, you know. And I think that on the

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01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball, you got a whole bunch

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01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 3: of guys that they brought in, including Darren Waller in

2184
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 3: Paris Campbell, who we thought were going to be explosive

2185
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 3: downfield targets, you know, but sometimes, you know, the offense

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01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 3: doesn't allow you to do that, you know. I don't

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01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 3: think this offense has opened up as much as we

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01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 3: wanted it to, you know, as fans of the game,

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01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 3: as fans of the New York Giants, you know, and

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01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 3: I think the second half of last week's game, because

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01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 3: they were down and how the opportunities presented itself, they

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01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 3: were able to make those deep strikes downfield. You know,

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01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:29,839
Speaker 3: but it was Listen, this is a tough San Francisco

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01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 3: forty nine ers team with a top ranked defense, with

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01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 3: top defensive players. It's just not going to be a

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01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 3: lot of opportunities when they're not missing tackles and they

2197
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 3: are getting off the field on third down. You know,

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01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 3: that kind of dwindles that play count. As the game

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01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 3: goes on and on, you got a three and out here,

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01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 3: three and out there San Francisco. Offensively, they're stretching out

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01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 3: drives eight, nine to ten to eleven plays. Then all

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01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 3: of a sudden at the end of the game, you

2203
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 3: have no rhythm. You have no rhythm offensively, you have

2204
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 3: no rhythm defensively because you can't get off the field

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01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 3: on third down, and it just kind of snowballs on you.

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01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 3: We saw case in point, the Dallas Cowboys game where

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01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 3: the Giants never could get them momentum back. But at

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01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 3: least it was time today where they actually did a

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Speaker 3: couple things. They had a couple of good drives, was

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01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 3: able to put some points on the board, but they

2211
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 3: couldn't tackle all game or get off the field on

2212
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 3: third down. So I hear your frustration, and I want

2213
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 3: to see it too. I want to see I think

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01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence is not if not he's if he's not

2215
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 3: the best interior lineman defensive lineman the NFL. He's definitely

2216
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 3: top three. And when you have and you have one

2217
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 3: of those guys that's so close to the ball and

2218
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 3: he can impact every play, as we've seen him do

2219
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 3: last year, you know, So I'm not I don't want

2220
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 3: him to do anything outside of his ability. I just

2221
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 3: want him to do what he can do, you know.

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01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 3: And I think everybody feel that way. Everybody feels like, dang,

2223
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 3: there's a lot of guys on this team that just

2224
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 3: haven't really showed up or shown themselves how valuable they

2225
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 3: are this year quite yet. And I hope they turn

2226
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 3: it around, and they have a chance to do so

2227
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 3: next week because the teams that the Giants are gonna

2228
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 3: play are not gonna be defensively solid as the San

2229
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers or the Dallas Cowboys. So there

2230
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 3: are gonna be opportunities for the Giants that go ahead

2231
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 3: and do things, move the ball offensively and play complimentary football.

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01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break. When we come back,

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01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 2: we'll wrap things up here on Pepsi Giants Extra Point

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01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 2: right here on the FEN We're here on Pepsi Giants

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01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 2: Extra Point, wrapping up our coverage of the giants three

2236
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 2: to twelve loss to the San Francisco forty nine ers

2237
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 2: on Thursday Night Football JC. I know a lot of

2238
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 2: Giant fans are in a little bit of a panic

2239
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 2: they're a little bit concerned. I will just point this

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01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 2: out from last year. The Giants, in a span of

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01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 2: three games in four weeks, lost by thirteen points to

2242
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,919
Speaker 2: the Lions thirty one to eighteen. They lost the Cowboys

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01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 2: twenty eight twenty but one touchdown came with like two

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01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 2: seconds to go, so that was really twenty eight thirteen.

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01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 2: And then two weeks later they lost to the Eagles

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01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 2: forty eight twenty two, and they went three to one

2247
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 2: in a four week span for November twentieth to December eleventh.

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01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 2: They came back when two out of the last four

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01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 2: still made the playoffs, won a playoff game. So to

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Speaker 2: your point, it's still early. I know the two losses

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01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 2: have not been great and they've been ugly at times,

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01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 2: but there's still a lot of time to play better

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01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 2: football and try to make a run to the postseason.

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01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 2: Here last question for you, JC before I get your

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01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 2: final thoughts. Are you surprised that the Giants did not

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01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 2: use more design run read option stuff with Daniel Jones

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01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 2: in this game in terms of the design quarterback running game.

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01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Running the ball only eleven times is yeah.

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01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 3: I think that's a very very low number. I don't

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01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 3: care who's playing running back for you. But we talked

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01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,560
Speaker 3: about this pregame. We thought Daniel Jones was going to

2262
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 3: lead the team in rushing because of the absence of

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01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 3: Sakuon Barkley, you.

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01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 2: Know, not that the they ran one read option the

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01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 2: whole game, just one.

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01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 3: Right, not that the run game was nonexistent, you know,

2267
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 3: And you know, I think Brita had a brilliant touchdown run.

2268
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 3: I think he ran very well at times. I think

2269
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 3: Gag Brightwell did a lot of good things, especially catching

2270
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 3: the ball from the backfield. But the best player without

2271
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 3: sa Quon Barkley or Andrew Thomas on the field is

2272
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 3: by far Daniel Jones. And he's not just a pretty

2273
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 3: good passer, he's a phenomenal runner of the football. So

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01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 3: I think in a game like this where you're missing

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01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:19,640
Speaker 3: a guy who you know, was top five in the

2276
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 3: league in rushing last year, in sain Kwon Barkley, I

2277
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 3: think you do supposed to put the ball in Daniel

2278
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 3: Jones's hands not only in run in passing plays, but

2279
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,600
Speaker 3: also in running plays, and I think they missed the

2280
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 3: opportunity to do that tonight.

2281
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 2: John final thoughts were about eleven days away from the

2282
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 2: Giants Monday night game home against the Seahawks. Your thoughts

2283
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 2: on how the Giants bounce back against the Seattle team

2284
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 2: that's just as explosive offensively as the Niners.

2285
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 3: Hmm. Like I said, this is like a mini bye week,

2286
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm thinking of me personally, what I

2287
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 3: would do. Definitely turn off football for a little bit,

2288
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 3: you know, get away from ball, go be with your

2289
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 3: family for a day. If you get that, if you

2290
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 3: get a day or to, you know, reflect on what

2291
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 3: you did and how you've been performing personally, and then

2292
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 3: go ahead and say, I'm going to play the best football.

2293
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to have the best practice when I come back,

2294
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 3: because the team needs that. The team needs each individual's

2295
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 3: highest effort to make themselves better. To go ahead and

2296
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,719
Speaker 3: contribute to this team because right now they're just not clicking.

2297
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 3: But they can because it's a long, long season. We're

2298
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 3: still in September. We still got months to go, and

2299
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 3: the Giants don't need to play good football right now

2300
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. But by season's end, somewhere throughout

2301
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,839
Speaker 3: the middle of the season, they have to find their stride.

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Speaker 3: They have to be able to win tough games, and they.

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01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 2: Better stay.

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01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 3: Like like you said, break the game, break the the season,

2305
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 3: up two quarters or whatever the case is. Right now.

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01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 3: They struggled in the first quarter, but they still got

2307
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 3: three quarters to go. They still got a game left

2308
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 3: to go in the first quarter, you know. So it's

2309
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:11,600
Speaker 3: definitely time for them to correct and make strides and

2310
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 3: be better and actually look like a playoff team. But

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01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 3: they got a ways to go, and it starts with

2312
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 3: each individual person, even with the coaches.

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Speaker 2: Jase, enjoy your mini bye, my friend. We'll see you

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01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 2: next Monday night, all right, boss, all right, and that's

2315
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 2: when we'll have pre in coverage at six fifteen that night.

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01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Giants hosting the Seattle Seahawks on Monday. I believe that's

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01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 2: October second, If I'm not mistaken, I believe when they

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01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 2: put the Seahawks Monday, October second, six fifteen covers right

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01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 2: thirty to twelve, they drop to one to two and again.

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Speaker 2: Our next broadcast Monday, October second home versus the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: sure you stay tuned. Thanks for being with us where

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Speaker 2: Jonathan can see us. Bob Bob Pacarl Banks, Hour Cross,

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01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,759
Speaker 2: Paul Tatino and the rest of our crew. Excellent work tonight.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your overnight. We'll see you on Big Book Kickoff

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01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 2: live on Giants dot Com and the Giants Bubble Lap

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Speaker 2: calls and talk Giants football with you. Enjoy overnight. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you then