1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks insiders. Geno, look go laying 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: up over the top. Gun a man out there. It 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: is fucker, he's got a touchdown. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Sey Hawks getting you ready for Seahawks football Every Sunday. 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: Ertz drops back, Hastime loadsop throws. AJ Brown. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 4: The defense Dougie keep its feet him he does stay. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Off ball Presented by Delta, the official airline of the Seahawks. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Jen Mueller. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: What an opening week for the Seahawks. Maybe a little 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: bit more drama than we might have liked, John Boyle, 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: but everything ends well when there is a w involved 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: and you can just take week one is maybe just 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: a learning lesson, right. We are not among the people 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: that get paid to overreact after one game. There's a 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: lot of people who get paid to overreact. We are 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: not one of them. We are looking for trends, facts 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: and what we saw last week against Speak for yourself. 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm reacting, I'm getting uts. 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: We're getting crazy today. No, I can find things to 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: overreact about it just that's not generally No, that's not well, 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: let's not do that. 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: We could change it up one of these days, but 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: not today yet. 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: What did we take away from that game on Sunday? 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 5: I mean, to me, obviously took away the defense played 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 5: really hard, really fast. You know, I know the opponents 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 5: are going to get tougher at some point, but just 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 5: very encouraging first signs from the defense. 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: That's to me the biggest thing I. 30 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: Would say for me, the importance of the run game, 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: the ability to bounce back. And last week I said 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to see how many people on offense we're 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: going to get involved. Nine different players got involved, which 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 3: to me, and outside of Ken Walker and Tyler Lockett, 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 3: was some big plays. It's not that everybody was filling 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: up the stat sheet, it's that it was diverse in 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: some of the play calling and how people were involved 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: in the game. 39 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you saw like their touchdown to Zach 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 5: Sharboney is one catch of the game or second two catches, 41 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: but still like guy not doing a lot, but when 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 5: he got his chance, took advantage. 43 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, they got a lot of weapons. 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 3: No, I am not going to say that My face 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 3: was very neutral for the first few plays that the 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: offense was on the field. 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Not the best start. 48 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: I try not to show a lot of reaction. I 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: might have shown a little bit more reaction that I 50 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: intended to. I think the biggest thing we learned about 51 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: this team was how they would react under pressure, and 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: it was pretty evident from the players and the coaches. 53 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: Nobody was getting flustered on the sideline when after the 54 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: pick or after the two safeties. The defense just said, 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: all right, we know we gotta do and then they 56 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: went out there and got to stop. 57 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, we heard that from DK and also we heard 58 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: after the game multiple people pointed to Gino Smith being 59 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 5: the guy that kind of got everyone together, calmed him down. 60 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 5: I talked to Lake and Tomlinson in the locker room 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 5: on Wednesday, and he talked about that, like, look, teams, 62 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 5: some teams don't respond to that kind of start and 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 5: then conspiral on you, and then you know, the offense 64 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 5: can start pointing fingers and guys get mad and all that, 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 5: and they just stuck together fought through it. It was 66 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 5: a pretty lousy start all around for that offense, but 67 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 5: they bounced back well well and. 68 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 3: For this group with a brand new coaching staff, and 69 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: that was among one of the things to figure out, 70 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: and I heard it on both sides. The coaches wanted 71 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: to see how the players were going to respond, and 72 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 3: the players wanted to see how their coaches were going 73 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: to respond. And there was a couple of guys who 74 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: talked about that after the game in the locker room. 75 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: That was like, yeah, nobody panicked. And I will tell you, Gino, 76 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: when he brought the entire team together, it wasn't a 77 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: yelling at. It was the reminder of this is who 78 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: we are. He got a lot of agreement. There was 79 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: a lot of guys that were nodding their heads. It 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: wasn't a tenor of frustration or this thing is, you know, 81 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: getting out of control in a hurry. I think that 82 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: that might be the biggest thing that we learned in 83 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: week one and the thing that will serve this team 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: the best. 85 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 86 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 5: No, I mean you obviously you didn't want to start 87 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 5: the game that way, but I think in the long 88 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 5: run that can actually be a good thing for this team. 89 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: Of like, hey, we faced some mostly self afflicted adversity 90 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 5: early on and fought through it and came out on 91 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 5: the better side of it in the second half. 92 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you really did see kind of 93 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: the full team effort on that one. Here's what else 94 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: we saw for the first time we saw the players 95 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: off day change. Yeah, And I thought it was fascinating 96 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: to listen to Mike McDonald talk about how he reviews 97 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: tape and when he reviews film at the game. Yeah, 98 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: because the only thing I have ever seen from every 99 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: coach I've ever covered is you get on the plane. Yeah, 100 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 3: everybody's downloaded and they're starting to go through tape. 101 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, you walk around that plane after game and all 102 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: the coaches into the film. And some might still like that, 103 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 5: but that's not what. 104 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: Mike likes well, And so if you miss that, it's 105 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald wants the emotion of the game to go away, 106 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: So on game days he just kind of goes home, 107 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: he regroups, and then it's the next day that he 108 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: goes and looks at the film. And for the players, 109 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: the off day, so there is one mandated off day. 110 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: This is across the whole entire NFL. For players, typically 111 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: that day is Tuesday, at least it has been that 112 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: way for a really long time. Here with the Seahawks, 113 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: the players off day is now Monday, and they will 114 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: come in on Tuesday and start their work week. And 115 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: again this kind of goes back to Mike McDonald's philosophy 116 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: is painting just a little bit of the emotion. 117 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: Out of it. 118 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 6: I'd say the main thing is to really just be 119 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 6: able to take a deep breath after the game and 120 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 6: then be able to move on. You know, that's the 121 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 6: main thing. Take the emotion out of it, be able 122 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 6: to kind of digest understand why you want, are lost, 123 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 6: where you need to improve. The guys get it the 124 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 6: next day, and then you're you know, you're once they 125 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 6: come in, you're kind of in next week's mode. There's 126 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 6: no there's no like break, you know, say, this is 127 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 6: what happened, Let's move on. Okay, Now it's like an 128 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 6: extended week on that next opponent. 129 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 130 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 5: I kind of like that idea of your just you're 131 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 5: already on to the next week by Tuesday, as opposed 132 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 5: to in the past you sort of have if you 133 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 5: take the Tuesday off, which a lot of teams around 134 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: the league, do you sort of Monday sort of like, hey, 135 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: we're looking back at the previous game and then Wednesdays 136 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 5: when that shift happens. So the way Mike SE's like, yeah, 137 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 5: we're kind of getting a little head start on the week. 138 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 5: I'll be curious to hear how players feel later on, 139 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 5: because this does eliminate sort of the idea like sometimes 140 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 5: coach like to surprise players with, oh, take Monday off 141 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 5: and it turns into two days off after a win. 142 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Now that I don't extra victory day off. Now we'll shue. 143 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 144 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: Mike has surprised them a few times and canceled meetings 145 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: and canceled practices, so I'm sure. 146 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: That he will find a way out of one of 147 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: these days. 148 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure that he will find a way to reward 149 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: them and that defense. I mean, look, I'm not going 150 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: to hand out stars too early in the season, but 151 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: they definitely deserve some credit and a reward. How about 152 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: thirteen first downs allowed by that defense. That is the 153 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: fewest in a game since twenty twenty, and ten of 154 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: Denver's fifteen offensive possessions and did in either a three 155 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: and out or a turnover. Now, I think some of 156 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: that is a rookie quarterback. Yeah, I think some of 157 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: that is you started to see what this defense can do. 158 00:06:59,440 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, exact. 159 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: I mean again, it's gonna get harder as the season 160 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 5: goes along. You're going to face some more experienced quarterbacks, 161 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 5: some more dynamic offenses. But I mean, just what does 162 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: translate regardless of the opponent is how guys tackled. How 163 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 5: they were just swarming to the ball every time you denver, 164 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 5: they were checking the ball down a lot. And that 165 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: strategy can work really well if you can make a 166 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 5: guy miss or two. But they just weren't able to 167 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 5: break tackles. And with that, it was just you know, 168 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 5: short gay and short gay and tackle for loss. And 169 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 5: it is really exciting to see a defense play like that. 170 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: This week, you were going to see two defensive minded 171 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: head coaches. You were going to see two very young coaches. 172 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: You were going to see two defensive minded teams because 173 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: the New England Patriots are coming off a surprising win 174 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: against Cincinnati, and they too, only allowed thirteen first downs, 175 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: they allowed seventy rushing yards. And here's the big picture 176 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: question that I wrote down for you, John, because we 177 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: heard the message that Mike McDonald gave the team was essentially, 178 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: the team that makes the fewest mistakes is going to 179 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: win in this one. Do you think that is always 180 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 3: the case when you have two defensive driven teams? 181 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 5: I mean not always, but it definitely plays a huge factor. 182 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 5: And it's why so many teams focus so much on turnovers, 183 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 5: Like you look at the turnover differential that decides a 184 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 5: ton of games. So I think, you know, in a 185 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 5: game like this, it's probably one of the biggest factors. 186 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 5: But I wouldn't say always. I mean, sometimes you might 187 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 5: just have such a talent disparity that you can get 188 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 5: away with some mistakes. But yeah, I think in this game, 189 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 5: being the cleaner team is going to be a big difference. 190 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: And so I mean for the CX offense, that means 191 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: eliminating a lot of what we saw in the first half. 192 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: Do you think there is more of an advantage to 193 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: being a defensive minded head coach than an offensive minded 194 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: head coach or vice versa. I know that the league 195 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: has shifted a little bit, and I feel like every 196 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: couple of years, this is a conversation you and I have. 197 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 5: I mean, to me, that's the offense versus defensive minded 198 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 5: is almost overrated. And I think maybe that's where sometimes 199 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 5: teams get in trouble making highers because they're not they're 200 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: looking more at scheme than the coach, the person, the leader. 201 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 5: And that's to me, that's the hard part to capture, 202 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 5: and that's I mean it's very early. We can't crown 203 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 5: anybody yet. But I think what gets overlooked about Mike 204 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 5: McDonald because of his you know, defensive brilliance, is a 205 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: big part of why he got this job was, you know, the. 206 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Way he leads, the way he teaches, and things like that. 207 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 5: And that's I mean, that's something we talk about with 208 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 5: Pete Carroll a lot, is like, it's not that he 209 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 5: I mean, he was a great defensive mind, but it's 210 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: that he was able to lead and motivate in a 211 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 5: way very few human beings can. And that's that, I 212 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 5: think is why we see so many failures in coaching 213 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 5: hires is you're just like, this guy runs a cool offense, 214 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 5: they score a lot of points, he's a head coach, 215 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 5: or you're. 216 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: Trying to think four steps down the road, which you 217 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: kind of have to do. But remember before the hiring 218 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: people are trying to figure out I mean, if you 219 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: hire an offensive coordinator or defense like who leaves first? 220 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: And then what does that do for the rest of 221 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: the team. And you're like, how about if you just 222 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: focus on the task at hand, which is this year, yeah, 223 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 3: and making sure that things are Yeah. 224 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: Like what you outlined is that everyone fears of losing Shanahan. 225 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: That's what that scenario is is the Falcons had dan 226 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 5: Quin's head coach and Kyle Shanahan was this hot coordinator 227 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: and that one worked out obviously very well for the foreigners. 228 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 5: But a lot of these hot young coordinators they're not 229 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: ready to be head coaches. And that's where you know, again, 230 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 5: I think teams get into trouble. And so the Seahawks 231 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 5: didn't look at Okay, we need an offensive guy. They 232 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 5: went out and said, who's going to be the best 233 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 5: leader for this team? 234 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 6: Yeah. 235 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a fascinating matchup. Of course, 236 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: I don't think the players necessarily see it the same 237 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: way we do, because when we're looking at this, it 238 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: is a defensive matchup and it is strength against strength 239 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: because small sample size. Both teams want to run the 240 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: ball and they're going to play really good defense. Although 241 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: for the Patriots with Drod Meyo on staff, they finished 242 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: top five in that defense in like the last what 243 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: six years five years that he's been on staff. Last year, 244 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: the Patriots allowed just three point three rushing yards per carry, 245 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: that is the fewest in the NFL. They picked up 246 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: where they left off this last week with just seventy 247 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: yards rushing by the Bengals, And some of that could 248 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: be ski, some of it could be players, or maybe 249 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: it's a combo. 250 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 6: I think it's the players that they have very well 251 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 6: coached obviously, but they play tough, they have good players, 252 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 6: they play hard. All the fundamentals just go right down 253 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 6: the list. Check check, check, play square, get off blocks, 254 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 6: what it takes to play really good run defense, numbers, 255 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 6: back it up, tape backs it up. So we had 256 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 6: a great challenge ahead of us. 257 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's I think you can kind of 258 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: hear the admiration for Mike mcdalden, like when teams play 259 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 5: this style, like I think he really enjoys that of 260 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 5: like they're going to make it hard on us. They're 261 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 5: going to be tough and physical and all those things 262 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 5: that he wants to be as well. So yeah, I 263 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 5: think we say all this and it's going to be 264 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: forty two to thirty nine or something, because that's football 265 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 5: is just done like that. But yeah, no, I mean stylistically, 266 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of similarity in the way 267 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 5: these coaches want to do it. 268 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: I think that also if you just feed ken Walker, 269 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: good things happen. What I really like last week in 270 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: the run game is that they stuck with it in 271 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 3: the second half. It's exactly what Mike McDonald said going 272 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 3: in at halftime, we got to run the ball more, 273 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: and they did. Yeah, And how many times have we 274 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: heard that, and for various reasons, it just doesn't play 275 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: out that way. But for a first time play caller 276 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: in Grub at the NFL level, right to do that 277 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: and to stick with it, And I think some of 278 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 3: that is just making is ken Walker just doing what 279 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: he does. 280 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: It changed the game, oh for sure. 281 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: And I think it helped that offensive line it going too, 282 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 5: because like we saw early on when there were some 283 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 5: issues with the pass protection, and you know, it's hard 284 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 5: for an offensive line sometimes to sort of find its 285 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 5: rhythm if they can't run the ball and get downhill. 286 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 5: So I think it helped all those guys get going. 287 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: It obviously just helped offenses the whole function. And you know, 288 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 5: look a lot of keeping running the you know, when 289 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 5: you say let's keep our eye mouth, you got to 290 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 5: get some first downs doing it, and they did. Because 291 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 5: if you if you commit to the run and you're 292 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 5: getting two yards of carry and you're hunting. 293 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: That doesn't work. 294 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 5: So it's that they came up with some cool run schemes. 295 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 5: Ken Walker did his thing and it was it was 296 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 5: fun to watch. 297 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: It might be difficult to do that again this week. 298 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 5: It'll be hard, Yeah, I mean, this is much better 299 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 5: run defense statistically that and just based on their past 300 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 5: and the talent they have, it's gonna be tough. 301 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: What's your level of concern on the offensive line. 302 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: I don't think as high as the casual fan who 303 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 5: just panics and sees. I mean that I'm not trying 304 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 5: to share your coat. That first half was bad. I 305 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 5: mean two safeties that are both largely on the offensive line. 306 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: You had, you know, the you go. 307 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: First three drives were sack, false start on offensive lineman, 308 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 5: hold on an offensive lineman, and that's I mean, that's 309 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 5: basically your first three drives were killed right off the bat. 310 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: So it wasn't good early. 311 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: But a couple of reasons I'm confident is A it 312 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 5: got better as the game and along B you're playing 313 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 5: with a center, which is one of the most important 314 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 5: positions on offense in terms of what he has to do, 315 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 5: who joined the team in mid August and then didn't 316 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 5: start practicing really until late August. So it's like, I'm 317 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: not saying Connor Williams isn't ready to play and he's 318 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 5: not an awesome player. It's that everyone around him. They 319 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: got to figure all that out together. So I think 320 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 5: that elem of the communication side of it. Those guys 321 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 5: kind of playing is a unit that's all going to 322 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: get better too. So look, there's lots to clean up. 323 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 5: They know that, But I'm more confident, I think than 324 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 5: a lot of people who just watch that first half 325 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 5: and wanted to throw things at their TV. 326 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: Well, that is also your job. 327 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: John. 328 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: See, I told you we are not overreacting. Today. You 329 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: are the voice of reason. We are going to talk 330 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: about a few of the players to watch on the 331 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: Patriots side of things, right after a quick word from 332 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: our presenting sponsor. 333 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: Statistically, the world is losing color. 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He forced ten miss tackles. 349 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: Ken Walker forced eight miss tackles. The only player who 350 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: forced more was Stevenson. As a result of those ten 351 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: miss tackles. Would you like to know how many yards 352 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: he gained after contact? 353 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess it was a lot. 354 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: He gained one hundred and eighteen of his one hundred 355 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: and twenty yards after contact. 356 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: Well, Hey, if you want to put a silver line 357 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: out from the Sioux, that means there's some. 358 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 5: Abil ability to get to him early. You just got 359 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 5: to bring him down. Well, that means that means two 360 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 5: yards before contact. 361 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: Jenny, you gotta really really you gotta be on that. 362 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: You know who I was talking to about this. We'll 363 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: hear from Mike McDonald in just a second. But Trey 364 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: Brown was his teammate at Oklahoma, and I said, so, 365 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: what was it like, Like, did you always know he 366 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: goes Oh, yeah, man, Lake. He is really quick off 367 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: the first step. He has got great balance. And here's 368 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: the thing. He is such a large person. You think 369 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: that every time he runs it you he's just going 370 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: to run you over. But he doesn't. And that's what's scary. 371 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: He just kind of jukes you on, goes around and 372 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: he was like, no, it's crazy. He is always going 373 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: to fall forward for a couple of extra yards. So 374 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: I think Trey might be given his teammates a few 375 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: tips on there. 376 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, that's that's going to be the big test. 377 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: It's like, we didn't see the run. 378 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 5: The run defense held that fine last week, but we 379 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: didn't see them get tested to nearly this level, both in. 380 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: Terms of commitment to it and the running back talent. 381 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: So this is going to be a great early test 382 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 5: to see how we saw this scheme like Austin as 383 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 5: the past, we saw turnovers, interceptions, but now we gotta 384 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: see him kind of get tough against our own. 385 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: Well and to do that here is what Mike McDonald 386 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: is expecting. 387 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 6: It's about I mean, it's about space and angles. You know, 388 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 6: you have to understand, you know, the angle that you 389 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 6: need to take, especially with you know, with the runners 390 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 6: that New England has, and it's about getting multiple hats 391 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 6: of the party because you know they're big physical backs 392 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 6: that fall forward and there's a huge difference between making 393 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 6: contact you know, a yard or two pass Lina Shrimage 394 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 6: and falling forward for four versus making contact there. And 395 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 6: now there's multiple guys at the party in New England 396 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 6: does a good job of kind of getting a hat 397 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 6: for the hat. So there's a lot of one on 398 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 6: one matchups are going to be happening that we're gonna 399 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 6: have to win in order to have success. 400 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: I like the term at the party. 401 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 4: I do. 402 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: Like that because I always think at the party like 403 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: at the quarterback, Like you're meeting at the quarterback for 404 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: a party. I would say a couple of names to 405 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: keep in mind. First of all, Leonard Williams, right, who 406 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: was really active but kind of got overshadowed by everything else. 407 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: Happening on the back end of the defense. He still 408 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: had four quarterback hits. I believe it was also we 409 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 3: don't talk very much about Jonathan Hankins. Yeah, that may 410 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: has quite possibly the biggest legs I have ever seen. 411 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: And that's what Byron Murphy on this I know. 412 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: I know, I felt really good about the leg day 413 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 3: that I had in the gym this week, and then 414 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: I happened to turn and I watched and Hankins has 415 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: legs that are like tree trunks. And I said, out 416 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: of curiosity, how much do you squat? And he looked 417 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: at me and he goes, well, I can't squat with 418 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: a bar over my neck anymore. You want to know why, 419 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: because he leg presses about six hundred and fifty pounds. 420 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: Oh, bend the bar. 421 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 3: If he he would bend the bar and hurt himself. Yeah, 422 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: large man middle of the line. I look for him, 423 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: Iron Murphy. Yes, did you put you have like two 424 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: trees in the middle. 425 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 426 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 5: No, I mean that's it wasn't a big splashy signing 427 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 5: when they got Hankins. But these are the kind of 428 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 5: games you go out and get him for, and that 429 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 5: there's a reason, you know, they said early on after 430 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: that signing that Aden Dirday, the former defensive line coach 431 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: in Dallas. His coach was like, we need this kind 432 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 5: of guy here, and they brought him in. There's gonna 433 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 5: be games that John then Hankins doesn't play a ton 434 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 5: if you're if you're tam spread it out and throwing 435 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 5: the barm. But games like this, he's going to have 436 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 5: a huge, huge role. 437 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: Well, and he is now a twelve year vet. He 438 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 3: told me last week his goal was always to play 439 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: ten years, and I said, really, you know, most guys 440 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: picked like a smaller window of time, you know, like 441 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: three to four. He goes, no, I just ten felt 442 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: really good. It felt like something not very many people do. 443 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 3: And after I hit ten, you know, I still f good. 444 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: So people kept calling me. I'm like, oh, and he 445 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: is like pressing six hundred and fifty pounds. Here's another 446 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: name that I think we need to keep an eye on. 447 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: Kyle Dugger. He is a former teammate of Drek Young 448 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: at Leonore Ryan. And when Drek and I were talking 449 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: this week, like did you always know he goes yeah, 450 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: because I would practice against him and he's doing things 451 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: that nobody in d two should do. And so the 452 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: conversations had like why don't you transfer? You could go 453 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: and do this at a big D one school, and 454 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: apparently Dougar said, Oh, I think I can accomplish my 455 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: goals right here at Lenoir Ryan. So you've got two 456 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: of the most I guess famous athletes to come out 457 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: of that program are in the NFL. They're gonna be 458 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: on the field together today. Kyle Duggar had a forced 459 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 3: fumble last week, a couple of huge red zone plays, 460 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: and I think he's one of those key pieces back 461 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: there for the Patriots. 462 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, they got a few on defense again, that's that's 463 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 5: a talented defense. And Keon White's coming along two and 464 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: a half sacks in the opener, and good young players. 465 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 5: So there's not a bunch of big like all pro 466 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 5: household names, but this is you know, they did a 467 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 5: good job rebuilding that defense and they're gonna be tough. 468 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Keyon White those two and a half sacks, 469 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: he had one all of last year one, So that 470 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: was a massive jump and performance and very active just 471 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: across that entire front. How about a player who stood 472 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: out last week on this defense, which is tough to do. 473 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: I mean you had Julian Love, you had the linebackers 474 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: who played like they had been playing together for years, 475 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: but it actually was their first game on the field together. 476 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 3: Reek Woolen and that interception. Yeah, and really just following 477 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: through on what we saw in training camp, because that 478 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: was one of my big kind of question marks and 479 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 3: one of the things I wanted to see. Turns out 480 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: that training camp it wasn't just about showing us what 481 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: he could do. It was getting back to what he 482 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: knew he could. 483 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 7: Do a lot better, just because I actually got to 484 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 7: work on my whole body. You know, I wasn't rehabbing 485 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 7: before a season. You know, usually guys trained before the season. 486 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 7: They're don't rehabbing, you know, guys building their bodies. Well, 487 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 7: you know, I had to rehab my knee and strengthen 488 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 7: my legs, and you know I was I feel like 489 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 7: I didn't focus on, you know, my whole body rather 490 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 7: than this all season. You know, before a camp, I 491 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 7: got to you know, train and you know, have a 492 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 7: healthy body, you know, work on my legs, my upper 493 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 7: body and stuff like that. So I was like, that's 494 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 7: probably the biggest difference. 495 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 5: It's always nice when we all think we see something 496 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 5: in training camp of like, oh, this player's really coming 497 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 5: through and they look like they're every good season and 498 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 5: then just. 499 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: Immediately goes out and validates it, like he had. 500 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 5: Of all the players we watching camp, who was like, 501 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 5: who's gonna make a leap, probably like him and Charles Cross, 502 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: who also played awesome this week by the way, two 503 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 5: of the guys just like, Okay, that guy's looks looks 504 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: like he's played in another level right now. 505 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: And to see Reek immediately go out and do that, 506 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: And it's so funny. 507 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 5: Because like players, coaches, everyone like just raves about that 508 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 5: play because it's he makes it look pretty routine. He's 509 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 5: washing it, Okay, ran and picked the ball, but like 510 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: when you're giving that inside leverage touris, you're like, that's 511 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 5: not a play cornerbacks are supposed to make. Pete Carroll 512 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 5: us to talk about this too, with Reek as a rookies, 513 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: like he's doing things just they don't do. And it's 514 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 5: funny because you know, we hear Mike mcconabay like, oh, 515 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 5: we've never you know, that's a play you just never see. 516 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 5: And then we asked Riek about it, and I pope 517 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: the quotes I won't get wrong. He says, I'm just fast. 518 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: I chase it down the balls in the air and 519 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 5: I caught it. That was it, Like it's oh okay, 520 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 5: but wait, did it start with shoes? Probably I might 521 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 5: not transcribed the shoot, but yeah, he just said he 522 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 5: ran it over out and I'm just fast, Like it's 523 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 5: so simple when you run a four to two forty 524 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 5: right right. 525 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: I know, I wish I knew what life was like. 526 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 3: I really I wish I knew what that life was like. 527 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: You know what? That is going to play into what 528 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: I want to see in this week's game. But before 529 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: we get to that, how about if we hear from 530 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: our fantasy insider Scott Engel. 531 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: Thanks Jenn and John quick hitting fantasy football tips for 532 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 4: Week two Marnseeahawks dot Com on the Fantasy Insider tab. 533 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: At quarterback, rookie Jaydon Daniels is already looking like a 534 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: must start a bounce back week for the Jets. Goodness 535 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: Dream Aaron Rodgers against the Titans. At running back, Jordan 536 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 4: Mason of the forty nine Ers is an RB one 537 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: in Fantasy football for this week's top ten start. Block 538 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: him in and also Jerome Ford the Browns as Cleveland 539 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: as the fourth best run blocking Great up Pro Football 540 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: focused for Week two at wide receiver be patients early 541 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 4: in the season, Keith Marvin Harrison Junior and Drake London 542 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 4: active at tight end. Colby Parkinson, the former Seahawk, gets 543 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 4: a bigger role starting this week for the Los Angeles Rams. 544 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 4: And on defense, go with the Seahawks. Good match up 545 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: against the New England Patriots for sacks and turnovers. Julian 546 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: Love Draymond Jones making a difference for your fantasy football 547 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 4: team and a Week two victory. Check out more of 548 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 4: my work Seahawks dot Com Fantasy Insider comprehensive guide by 549 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 4: lineup rankings on rotoballer dot Com. 550 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Back to you, Jen and John, Thank you Scott. 551 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: Okay, we talked about Rik wolland we've talked about what 552 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: this defense can do. Last week. I let you go 553 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: first on what you wanted to see, and you stole mine. 554 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 3: So I am going first this week, and I want 555 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: to see over one hundred and twenty yards on the 556 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: ground by the team, by the Seahawks, so we can 557 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 3: divide that up. However, that needs to get divvied up 558 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 3: among running backs and and playmakers. Tool threat quarterbacks. Yes, 559 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: because I want Jacoby Prisett to have to throw the ball. 560 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: Last week, the Patriots quarterback completed fifteen of twenty four 561 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 3: for one hundred and twenty one yards. He didn't have 562 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: to throw the ball very much because Stevenson was running. 563 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: But I want to force them into those situations. So 564 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: that Reek and Spoon, I mean three takeaways by the 565 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: Seahawks defense could have been a lot more last year. 566 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it was Dotson had 567 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: an interception, he could have had their Spoon could have 568 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 5: had a couple. There was Julian Love force to fumble 569 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: that they got a lucky bounce on went right back 570 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 5: to him that they still got turnover on that drive. 571 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: So yeah, there's there's opportunity there for sure. 572 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: So I need to see over one hundred and twenty 573 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: rushing yards to begin with, and this might be taking years. 574 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 3: I need to see clean football. 575 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: I'll give you that. 576 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 5: I'm kind of piggybacking off what we just talked about, 577 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 5: but I want to see two takeaways because we did 578 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 5: not see a turnover from the Patriots last week. Because 579 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 5: you know, Mike McDonald talked about this with Brissette he's 580 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: not like he's kind of what you might call a 581 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 5: journeyman quarterback. He's not necessarily in a while guys with 582 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 5: what he does. But he's a really smart football player, 583 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 5: and he's doing what they want. Now we're just being 584 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 5: smart taking care of the football. So this ties into 585 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: what you said, have like stop the run, make them 586 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 5: throw it. But if he can, if they can do that, 587 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 5: you know, just get to get a couple of takeaways. 588 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: Other side of it, I just want to see the 589 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 5: offense function cleaner. Like early on I should say, I 590 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 5: think they did a really good jump and second that, 591 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 5: but just don't get yourself the self inflicted, you know, 592 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 5: first down, just get a few yards. You go back 593 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 5: and watch that game. Their first ten possessions the Seahawks, 594 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 5: four of them they got any positive yards. We're talking 595 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 5: two yards run. They scored on all four. The other 596 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: ten or the other six of those ten went backwards 597 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 5: on the first play, either a tackle for loss, a sack, 598 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 5: or a penalty. 599 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: So just don't start off in that hole. And I 600 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: think this offense can do some good things. 601 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and control the time of possession is going to 602 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: help against again, a defensive minded team in the Patriots. 603 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 3: We will see how those things play out on Sunday, 604 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: the first road trip, the first ten am start for 605 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: the Seahawks this season, and they've been pretty good. By 606 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: the way. Your final note, the Seahawks have been twenty four. 607 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: They have won twenty four of their life thirty five 608 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: games on that early time spot. So let's look for 609 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: that success to continue, and let's look forward to seeing 610 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: you back here next week for another edition of the 611 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 3: Seahawks Insiders podcast. Shut