WEBVTT - Ep. 431: “Chetiquette” with Luke Combs

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<v Speaker 1>It's im mediated podcast. All right, everybody, we're here for

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<v Speaker 1>a special, very special episode drop short and sweet, very concise.

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<v Speaker 1>You asked for it, and we're giving it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the official and official Chettika episode, probably named

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<v Speaker 1>after Chester. Yeah, but there's something that I just learned about,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what chettike it actually means in Australia. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it sang in Australia. Is that where this is from?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing you can tell because some of the word choice.

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<v Speaker 1>I say. We start by saying what our version of

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<v Speaker 1>cheike it is. First, just introduce that to the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Chetik it is outdoors etiquette as funneled through chet Chester's brain,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the nicest man on the nicest man in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. And not only that, but it sounds good

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<v Speaker 1>like if Yanni was into etiqutte, as we pointed out,

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<v Speaker 1>and you called it Yanna Kitt. No one's gonna care

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<v Speaker 1>about that. It sounds like a holiday, Yeah it does.

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<v Speaker 1>But chettick it sounds great, Ryan n Kitt because you

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<v Speaker 1>care about that clay a kit that's stupid. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>chettictt And then uh yeah, so so Chetika leads the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We went out to the audience and got all their

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<v Speaker 1>conundrums and manners, a lot of them tons, moral quandaries,

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<v Speaker 1>moral quandaries that come from outdoor live and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be giving advice and to help us here today we

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<v Speaker 1>have Clay Nukam, Mark Kenyon from Wired to Hunt, Hello Loo,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Old cal Callahan, and Chester the Investor is here

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Not only that, but we have Luke Combs

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. And I'll point out too that this special drop,

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<v Speaker 1>dermatologists from needing to like whittle away little parts of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a great super terminal tackle vented hoodie. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to run around in the sun all the

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<v Speaker 1>time in a T shirt or nothing, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>wore a hearing protection when I shot firearms, and those

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<v Speaker 1>are two things I'm trying to correct. It's too late,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm trying. It's better late than never. It's true. Luke,

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<v Speaker 1>you where you're a black isn't it like a black

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<v Speaker 1>um fishing shirt? For like most of your concerts? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wear the yeah, like all of them. Literally, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the only thing I wear um performance. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the Bahama two. The black Bahama two

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<v Speaker 1>is what I've been wearing. Yeah, like literally every show

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<v Speaker 1>for seven seven years. Probably kind of like a lucky Wow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just have the one though. That's it's just this starting

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, after after thousands of shows, starting to

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<v Speaker 1>wear out a little bit. You know. Luke Holmbs has

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<v Speaker 1>a new album out. Tell us about that loop, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I do um. It's called Getting Old, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is is fitting. Um, you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess for me, it's just a bit of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's like, man, you're thirty three, you're not getting old,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I was like, well, it's more of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess coming of age right would have been kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the thing. Right. So I've been married, you know

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<v Speaker 1>for I'm you know, coming up on three years an

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<v Speaker 1>album my wife for seven. Um, you know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>second kid on the way, I get first one at

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<v Speaker 1>the house, you know, and um, just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>life is, life is changing in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>and UM, I really want to you know, continue to

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<v Speaker 1>grow with with my fan base and and write songs

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm passionate about that I feel like speak to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my life and where it is now and

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that probably correlates pretty strongly to um

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<v Speaker 1>where a lot of my fans lives are at as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I just want to always kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>continue to be to be true to myself and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as I as I keep putting music out, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>this album's kind of the first step in that direction

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<v Speaker 1>for me as someone who is legitimately getting old. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to point out that the character that the

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<v Speaker 1>getting old person, the character the representation of Luke still

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<v Speaker 1>has a little fight left in him. I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>oh for sure, it's got a little get up and

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<v Speaker 1>go left in him. Was not quite as as it

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<v Speaker 1>once was. Absolutely, man, Absolutely it's more focused. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>what's the best song on the album, Luke? Your opinion?

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<v Speaker 1>Got one, just one. I think it's that one. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if I could only pick one, I mean my favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, probably maybe like Where the Wild Things Are?

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. I think, um back forty back for me

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<v Speaker 1>is up there. Um, guy, there's a bunch man. I

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<v Speaker 1>love him all dude. It's a hard question for me

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<v Speaker 1>when I listened, when I listened to the album and

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<v Speaker 1>its entirety. The first time I texted Luke and I was,

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<v Speaker 1>uh pleasantly surprised, surprised that he covers Tracy Chapman's fast Card. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>classic tune there and I thought, I thought was I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a good move, man, I like it

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<v Speaker 1>did Dan? Did Dan and Red help you with a

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<v Speaker 1>few of these are? Yeah? Yeah, Dan and Reid have

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<v Speaker 1>written I think Reid's two or three on here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I think Dan has like six. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear. So. Yeah, they helped me out

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit for sure. If you look up. So

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<v Speaker 1>so Luke's gonna stick around, You're gonna help us out,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you're gonna help us out with the etiquette

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<v Speaker 1>take on it. I'll tell you the stories and then

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<v Speaker 1>you got to work up with what your suggestion is,

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<v Speaker 1>but but it was We wanted to point out Karin

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<v Speaker 1>typed in chattiket into the Urban dictionary. Mm hmm is

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<v Speaker 1>that what dictionary this is? Yeah, yeah, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>drafted in June sixteen, twenty twenty one, which means, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd already come up with chatt kit by then, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>that be true? I think so, Yeah, it's been. That

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<v Speaker 1>would have been right around almost almost two years. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian thing is not that far off. It's chattikit um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a real word. Smith to put it together.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's bad chetket man or that's bad chetic it mate,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning to be a knob or a ceu next Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>In social situations, them being very free and easy with

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<v Speaker 1>that that particular expression in that part of the world. Uh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's our first chat. Here's our first ethical conundrum. It

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<v Speaker 1>involves it's called your ex wife's new husband. You know

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be bad. Wow, Okay. Guy goes on, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice piece of family owned property. You're following, nice

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<v Speaker 1>piece of family owned property large enough for four to

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<v Speaker 1>five hunters max that has great deer and small game hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>But a limited amount of said game. During the divorce,

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<v Speaker 1>it's decided that the land will stay with the husband

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<v Speaker 1>so that the near adult kids can continue to use it,

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<v Speaker 1>with the clause that if the land ever gets sold,

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<v Speaker 1>then fifty percent of the profit goes to the ex wife. Subsequently,

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<v Speaker 1>the ex wife remarries and the new husband is a

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<v Speaker 1>public land hunter who's licking his chops at the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to hunt some new private land. So even though the

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<v Speaker 1>ex wife tells the new husband he can hunt the

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<v Speaker 1>property because it's half hers, does the etiquette question fall

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<v Speaker 1>on the ex husband to allow or not allow the

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<v Speaker 1>new husband to hunt the property? Or it does it

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<v Speaker 1>fall on the new husband? This becomes very loaded. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like the question, well can we clarify something?

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<v Speaker 1>Question too? Can I finish? Go ahead? I finished the question,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the answer already, so yeah, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>finish the question. Yeah, because it's becomes very So far,

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<v Speaker 1>it's done a pretty good job, right, But then it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes loaded. Does the adiquatete question fall on the x

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<v Speaker 1>husband to allow or not allow the new husband to

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<v Speaker 1>hunt the property? Or doesn't fall on the new husband

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<v Speaker 1>to do the right thing and just stay off the

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<v Speaker 1>property a right answer, dude, I think legally, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>first off, no shot this guy's getting on this there's

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<v Speaker 1>no shot. There's no scenario I'm letting this guy on

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<v Speaker 1>this place in any way, right, there's no shot. And legally,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as it doesn't get sold, it's it's the husband,

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<v Speaker 1>the ex husband's right. Legally, that's what they agree to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think the etiquette's not even in the question.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's legal sense of like, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of etiquette in there with the

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<v Speaker 1>the the husband who actually owns it. The first dude

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<v Speaker 1>in the picture, like being a nice guy, but still

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's dating. Is you don't need to be nice

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<v Speaker 1>to your ex wife's husband. No, No No, there's there's your

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<v Speaker 1>your your question that there's a dynamic that's much bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than we can speculate on. But let's say there's a

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<v Speaker 1>split and in the in the couple, the former couples

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be amiable and they're trying to I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there would be a scenario. I don't think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're shooting for. It doesn't sound like we need, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what we need with all these is a state we

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<v Speaker 1>need to know what state it is. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>would make a big difference. I'm going to speak to

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<v Speaker 1>the from my answer. I'm going to speak to the

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<v Speaker 1>X husband, and I'm gonna ask if if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>out there and you're the and you're the X husband,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask this question. The answer to this question

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<v Speaker 1>is the answer to this conundrum. If you remarry and

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<v Speaker 1>your new wife okay says I'd sure like to go

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<v Speaker 1>out there hunting with you, Are you gonna say no?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only thing that to me, that's it. If

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<v Speaker 1>he says, no way in hell, I'd let my new

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<v Speaker 1>wife hunt that place. It's for our new adult kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But did they fall If he's like, oh no, my

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<v Speaker 1>my new wife can hunt it, but my x wi's

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<v Speaker 1>new husband, no way, then that I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a double standard. Yeah. But he owns

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<v Speaker 1>it though, right, it's his yeh, didn't he have more

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<v Speaker 1>share in it? It's not solely for the use of

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<v Speaker 1>the children. He owns it so that the children can

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<v Speaker 1>use it, right, that's what it sounded like. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>the hunt it himself. Yeah, I gather he can hunt

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<v Speaker 1>it with the near adult kids. Let's let's put it

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<v Speaker 1>to vote. Cal where do you think about this? It's

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<v Speaker 1>not worth it, like, just not not worth it. Go

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<v Speaker 1>find someplace else to hunt. You're speaking to the new husband. Yeah, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole group. It's like it sounds so like it's

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<v Speaker 1>mentally it will be far easier and your successes will

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<v Speaker 1>be far greater if you do not step foot on

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<v Speaker 1>this place. Donate it to somebody, right, donate it to conservation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. To clarify, these aren't hypotheticals. These are real life. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>these are real life situation. There's a there's a real

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<v Speaker 1>husband and ex husband dealing with this right now. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole show called Yellowstone that is dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>this right now. So is there an answer in there?

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<v Speaker 1>The answer I think like if you Okay, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>two questions. Let's let's put this way. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>there's an answer for the new husband. My answer for

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<v Speaker 1>the new husband, um, my answer for the new husbands,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go there, agreed. No, My answer for the

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<v Speaker 1>ex husband is, if you would take again, if you

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<v Speaker 1>would allow your new wife to hunt it, you should

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<v Speaker 1>let her new husband hunt it. But I think you

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<v Speaker 1>do that with the assumption and going in there, but

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<v Speaker 1>he'll never take me up on it. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, Wow, the nice thing to do would

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<v Speaker 1>be like say yes, sure, But in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>your mind you're thinking, I'm sure he will realize I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to be nice and he will back away

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<v Speaker 1>because of how awkward this whole situation would be. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he is quote licking his chops. Man. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they like each other, though, who knows? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want anybody? I think this would be a way better show.

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<v Speaker 1>Kari should have all these people in the new husband

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<v Speaker 1>the old husband's friends sat. Okay, So let's Doug Duran

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<v Speaker 1>sharing the land. This okay. These folks set up a

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<v Speaker 1>share system based on the calendar year. They have their

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<v Speaker 1>primary shareholders, which are the near adult children adult kids, um,

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<v Speaker 1>which it's like, what's the syndrome where they stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the nest forever? I know, empty noess, Yeah, the failure

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<v Speaker 1>to launch. That's what we're dealing with here and away.

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<v Speaker 1>They're your primary shareholders. They agree on a certain amount

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<v Speaker 1>of equity let's say that can be purchased by putting

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<v Speaker 1>in sweat, you know, mitigating noxious weeds, taking down old

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<v Speaker 1>tree stands, maybe some controlled burning, something fun like that

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<v Speaker 1>that buys them shares in the remaining calendar year that

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<v Speaker 1>the primary share shareholder. Doesn't this sound like fun to everybody? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're like really assuming a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's right, it's like, oh for sure, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it'd be way easier than like, um oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what people will think of this. Oh, he

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<v Speaker 1>actually took me up on it. Oh do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's right that he invited her out? I mean, turn

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<v Speaker 1>my back on the whole thing. Yeah, more I think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I only have a message for the new husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a nightmare for sure. My messag new husbands.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you just go the other direction? Man? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here's one. Here's one. Won't take any time. It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, I'm sorry, I got it, new husband. Go

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<v Speaker 1>buy yourself a sweet Walley or bass boat like top

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<v Speaker 1>of the line, all the stuff. Make sure there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple other seats that go completely unoccupied in it, and

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<v Speaker 1>just take lots of pictures of your Your day is

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<v Speaker 1>out on the water by yourself with empty seats around you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that when ice fishing and you see a

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<v Speaker 1>guy gal just slaying fish, I can picture this and

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<v Speaker 1>they pack up and leave. How long should you wait

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<v Speaker 1>before sliding into fish the hotspot? Zero zero zero? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because somebody else's probably gonna be running right for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would do less than waiting to be over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you guys are packing up? Are you all about

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<v Speaker 1>to leave them? Right? I mean you do understand that

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<v Speaker 1>you're exchanging a little bit of dignity. You're eating some

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<v Speaker 1>humble pie and exchange for the for fish for the

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<v Speaker 1>hot hole? Yeah, which is fine. You know I would

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<v Speaker 1>probably I would probably go over if I found myself

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation. I know, cal does this, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>just go up and talk to those fellows and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys leave him and hop right in there. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it's That's why I was like, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I had kids, is if you have kids, even when

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<v Speaker 1>you see like when they're slaying, you might go up

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<v Speaker 1>and you can put it on and you'd be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my kid really love to catch you fish man.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys or getting out of here, if you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't mind letting me know so I can help my kid,

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<v Speaker 1>catch a fish right right? You put all that on

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. Okay, here's the one called calling for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Spring gobbler came in here in upstate South Carolina, April first.

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<v Speaker 1>For the last two weeks, every morning after I dropped

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<v Speaker 1>two of the three kids off at school, I take

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<v Speaker 1>the cut road home, where I know turkeys are often

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<v Speaker 1>in a vast crop field. His choice of words, vast

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<v Speaker 1>crop field. I'll pull over, put the windows down and

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<v Speaker 1>call to them for a while to see if I

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<v Speaker 1>can get them fired up. Totally understandable. Yesterday, signed Luke Combs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pull over, put the windows down, get them firt up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a large private egg field that, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I can tell, has no interest in hunting these birds.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what he means, As far as you can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's hunting the birds. The other day, when the

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<v Speaker 1>season came in, I pulled over to throw some calls

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<v Speaker 1>out when I noticed a truck on the other wooded

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<v Speaker 1>side of the road, which is a different property. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured it to be a hunter after some birds.

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<v Speaker 1>What would be the chetta kit with regards to me

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<v Speaker 1>calling for fun off a public road to birds out

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<v Speaker 1>in the field. When there is a hunter somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>dem woods trying to bag one. Can can he hunt

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<v Speaker 1>that field? It sounds like simple? Then yes? Then then

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<v Speaker 1>I mean why mess with it? Why during the season?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I think I think before season you can

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<v Speaker 1>Luke combs it and you can do that. But when

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<v Speaker 1>season starts, you gotta back out. You can't be calling

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<v Speaker 1>on people other people's birds, just for specially when there's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy sitting out there. Yeah, especially you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>calling the same birds. It's not like there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to get the same birds to the spot

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<v Speaker 1>he's at and you're out there just on the way

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<v Speaker 1>to work, like sending in the other direction. Best case scenarios,

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<v Speaker 1>the birds come, there's nothing you can do anyways, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do anything. So why you know? Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>trickier one. I like this one better. It's called family

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:30.720
<v Speaker 1>members mooching. This takes place near This guy says he's

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<v Speaker 1>not far from Bubbly Doug's farm in southwest Wisconsin, and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, he has met Bubbly Doug. He says, my

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<v Speaker 1>family has owned a farm in southwest Wisconsin for over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years. People always like to us a comment

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<v Speaker 1>quick comment here. Um, I don't know that that matters,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyhow, there is a brushy dick means he's proud

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Steve, Oh, I know, I know what he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting at here. I know I where he's going with

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<v Speaker 1>us there. Um, there is a brush. I pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>here because this gets this gets counted, It starts, this

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<v Speaker 1>gets geographical. There's a brushy ditch that sets up nicely

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<v Speaker 1>for deer drives or mooches. Every year we seem to

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<v Speaker 1>push a nice buck out and have killed many out

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<v Speaker 1>of this small easy drive over the years, usually after

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:30.880
<v Speaker 1>opening day, pressure pushes them into this ditch. A few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, my dad sold a number of acres as

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<v Speaker 1>he's nearing retirement, and this ditch and pasture were part

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<v Speaker 1>of that sale. Here's where it gets complicated, folks. He

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<v Speaker 1>goes on to say this, and I'm quoting my uncle,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a parenthetical and neighbor was aware of the

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<v Speaker 1>sale and also well aware of this particular deer drive.

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<v Speaker 1>My intern repretation and Chester and I discuss this. My

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<v Speaker 1>interpretation is, even though the family has done this dear

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<v Speaker 1>drive historically, my interpretation is this uncle has not been

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<v Speaker 1>part of this deer drive. So even though he's saying,

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<v Speaker 1>my family does this deer drive on this brushy ditch,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gathering here and analyzing it with Chester or he

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<v Speaker 1>was allowed to hunt it, and he just but we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta just go with one, dude, because it can't be both,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's way different. Yeah, so retract what you said,

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<v Speaker 1>take that back, apologize, we can. We can analyze that

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<v Speaker 1>down the roll. But like it gets because you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Yes, they're therein lies the therein is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. Yeah, we'll tackle both. We'll tackle both, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't mind, I'd like for you to start

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Already sounds semi legal. Whatever we're getting it

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<v Speaker 1>already sounds shading. My uncle and neighbor was aware of

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<v Speaker 1>the sale and also well aware of this particular deer

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<v Speaker 1>drive we have done for the past few decades and

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<v Speaker 1>aware of its success the very first year after the sale,

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<v Speaker 1>not only that, the very first day of deer season,

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<v Speaker 1>so they historically waited untill later in the season. The uncle,

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<v Speaker 1>on the first day of the new year after the sale,

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<v Speaker 1>the first day of deer season after the sale, goes

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<v Speaker 1>to the new buyer and says, hey, can I do

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<v Speaker 1>a deer drive in the brushy draw we just sold

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<v Speaker 1>you sure, and doesn't bust in there and does the

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<v Speaker 1>drive and doesn't. Sounds like uncle might not be a

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<v Speaker 1>great hunter too. Sounds like yeah, or like in the family,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, Christmas has never been the same since that

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<v Speaker 1>fateful deer drive. I mean, at least invite the family.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with him asking permission to go do it.

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of beat him to it, because he could

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<v Speaker 1>have been the hero of the family. Yeah, he could

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<v Speaker 1>could have been like, guess what, everybody, I got us

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<v Speaker 1>all permission to go do the That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>He could have been like, man, I know everybody's been

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<v Speaker 1>super bummed out since dad had to sell the place,

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<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't talk to the guy and everybody. Guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>we could continue the deer drive, right, But it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like he may be taking vengeance out for like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>having never been a part of the deer drive. It's

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<v Speaker 1>what it now. It sounds like to me there's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that could be See. You know, if these folks

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<v Speaker 1>are listening, um, Lauren Laramie Laramie's listening, you better not

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<v Speaker 1>be leaving out some details here. He has a shaky

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 1>uncle dave. You know, a guy who's super dangerous to

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<v Speaker 1>h Oh no day of that guy. Oh yeah, my

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<v Speaker 1>kids will come running home by how they got yelled

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<v Speaker 1>at by some old man I don't know where out

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<v Speaker 1>of the blue. I'm like, let's just hate kids. What happened? Whoa?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? We were in his yard with her bows

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<v Speaker 1>and practicing fire shot it over towards his house and

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<v Speaker 1>and uh bye and bye he yelled, get off of

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<v Speaker 1>his yard. Like okay, that makes you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>your your point as well, taking their se because it's

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<v Speaker 1>real clear that the way the story's told and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been presented that this guy, it's like, yeah he was shady,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you had that guy in here, he might

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<v Speaker 1>be the same one of the bunch and say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I had, you know, I mean there's a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand different ways this could go, and you could you

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<v Speaker 1>could take a kind of a character assessment and he

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<v Speaker 1>might be like, you know what, those guys were outlaws

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<v Speaker 1>and they were killing more dear than they should and

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>they were doing this and we never liked that. We

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.360
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to manage the land. I mean, he might

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>have a story it's possible. It's possible. Maybe the uncle's

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<v Speaker 1>an ultruist in that we haven't talked about how he's

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<v Speaker 1>where he's pushing this drive. Maybe he's going to drive

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<v Speaker 1>the deer back onto The kind of lingering question was like,

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<v Speaker 1>did he not even call anyone to say, hey, heads up, right?

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Because sometimes you get permission and you're not even prepared

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:31.479
<v Speaker 1>for permission, right, Like oh, I bumped into the person

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<v Speaker 1>at the post office and they said, hey, my family

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<v Speaker 1>comes out next week. If you want to hunt, you

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>can hunt tomorrow, but just you and just you right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, good, right, that's true, that's true. Or

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<v Speaker 1>how about this, let's say the dad. Let's say the

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 1>uncle used to own that place, but the dad came

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<v Speaker 1>over his place and tripped and fell on the ice

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<v Speaker 1>and did a dirty lawsuit and one that land back

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<v Speaker 1>unfairly interesting. We don't We don't know anymore. And what

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<v Speaker 1>we got to see here, there's a lot of takes.

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<v Speaker 1>What we do, what we have to go by, complicated

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<v Speaker 1>by what we have to go by. Just that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>By the version that we have heard, um that the

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<v Speaker 1>uncles will blow hard. Does does Chester get a final

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<v Speaker 1>say on any of these given that this is Chettikett. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we could do that. I would declare a winner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just putting myself in old uncle's shoes. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely invite the family to do that, dear drive,

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<v Speaker 1>at least gave them heads up or explain my situation

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<v Speaker 1>and not just go out there and do it. Because

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<v Speaker 1>if it was like, oh, I'm the only one that

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>can do this, drive, but be ready because you guys

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>know where they're going to run, Like Mark was saying, um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just let them know, communicate. It's really easy. But that's

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>great advice. Chester. But if you're the uncle, there also

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>begs the question you're the uncle for a minute, mhm,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you go ask permission to hunt the ditch?

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Because because I really like deer hunting and that's okay.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Here here's a good one. This is one. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those I don't I honestly don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to this, but I'm developing an opinion ready for

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<v Speaker 1>this right and again, what Jester will have the final say?

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<v Speaker 1>Checking other folks trail camps. I'm sure Marks anything Mark

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>knows about so situation we place trail camps on public

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>land as part of our scouting process. While doing this,

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>every once in a while we'll find another hunter's camera.

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>We usually hike around with a small laptop while placing ours.

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<v Speaker 1>So the question is ding ding? Would it be bad

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<v Speaker 1>etiquette to open the other guy or gals camera and

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>take a look at the card and then place it

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>back leaving no trace meaning it's on public land. Yeah,

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>so my take is that that is poor Chetti kid

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. Yeah, it might not lead to some

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of negative outcome because it's still there, But how

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>many times for those who use cameras, have you turned

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>one on and off, took a card out, put it

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>back in and something goes wrong with the settings, Like

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you're just risking some kind of issue, and it just

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 1>feels kind of dirty, like you're pulling up someone else's

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>hood and looking in just interfering with something that's not yours.

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>And who knows this person might have just stumbled upon

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>this trail camera and looks at the pictures and the

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>next thing you know, he's like holy cow, and he's

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>now in your hunting spot and you put all the

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>work in and put that camera out. Just I'd like

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 1>to ask the guy that rolled in I'd say this

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to them. I'd be like, let's say you park your

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>truck on public land and you come back and there's

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>a guy kind of sitting in your truck going through everything. Yeah,

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>he's like, Oh, I'm gonna take anything, man, I'm gonna

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>taking anything. It's some public land, bro. I do ask

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>folks who are big into trailcams why they put the

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>trail cams out. I'm like, you know, it's a great

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>hunting spot, You've shot big deer there. Why would you

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>advertise to other people that you have an interest in

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>that spot? So they're probably not that far along yet.

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you're kind of running the risk of somebody

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>pulling up your hood. And take a look at what

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I've done in a couple of situations with the trail cameras.

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Is I've put I've written. I've got a picture on

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>my phone of writing with a black marker on a

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>trail camera on public land. You right on the camera.

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I wrote my name and my phone number, and I said,

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>please don't steal I'll share the pictures with you if

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you call me. I'll had a lot on it. Oh

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>your camera, I thought you were my camera on public

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>land in a locked box that they could have beat

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>off a tree and stolen or something. And I wrote

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>on there my phone number, and I said, if you

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>find this chill camera and you don't steal it, call me.

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll share all the pictures. Have you ever gotten a

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>phone call? You never got a picture. I did have

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>somebody come up and check it, like I just saw

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>their legs and they and actually didn't have a lock

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>on the camera at the time. On the box. They

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>opened it up, took the camera out, and then put

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it back, so I very well may have checked it.

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I did the name and phone number on a camera

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>mine like a decade ago, and it did get stolen.

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>They stole it. They returned it to Cabella's to get

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.719
<v Speaker 1>money for it, and then Cabella's after after taking that return,

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>looked on the back of the camera, saw the name

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and number and called me and said, hey, I think

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.239
<v Speaker 1>someone stole your camera and we have it here at

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the store and I got it back. Yeah. Really, you

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>know that'd be a good way to double how many

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>cameras you got t tell your body return to camera.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>So chaster was the final thing. Check him or don't

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>check him? Don't check him? Man it just feels dirty.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I like Clay's little thing, lock it and putting a

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>name on it. It's kind of like here I am.

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very similar to that. If you find

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody else's tree stand on public land, you go sit it,

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and I feel the same way about it. I'm not

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna touch it if it's a permanent Yeah, it's like

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>in the old days when you used to just nail

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>them up there out of wood. I think that's that's

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.959
<v Speaker 1>just that's that becomes part of the tree in my bo.

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>But I mean if someone puts a hang on and

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>climbing sticks. I know some people go and sit in

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody else's stand, but I feels the same way to me.

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>What's your view on leaving tree stands? I would public land,

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.479
<v Speaker 1>I would say, not having like a moral take on him,

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>but just it doesn't seem practical to me because you're

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>risking people coming in taking it or doing what call

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>just mentioned, like seeing your spot and being like, oh

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>someone else thought this is good. Yeah, more an etiquette

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>on leaving the camera. But I also want people. I

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>want people to understand it's like by putting that out there,

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>you you have already given them something Mark. One of

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the best ones that Ease we ever got was a

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>guy who was in sort of a tree stand duel

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>with someone where they each had climbers latched onto a tree,

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and they were he was practicing a certain sort of

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>etiquette where he would always attach his down below the

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>same tree. Yeah, so if he hunted the tree, he

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>would move his stand down below as a courtesy so

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that the other guy would be able to climb and

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>not have to undo his like a climber, and the

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>guy wouldn't return the courtesy. And how they were supposed

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to sort that out? So many of these have to do.

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>What's amazing. There's one guy says, dear Chat, I would

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>like your opinion. The subject is when you're hunting, buddy

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>never invites you hunting it no more do not? We

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>do not, So, dear Chat, I would like your opinion

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>on a quandary I have with a hunting buddy. A

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>while ago we started upland bird hunting together. Neither of

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>us had a dog, so that first season was pretty tough.

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>By the following season I had a bird dog and

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>we started to do much better. About that time, he

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>started waterfoul hunting. My issue is that he always asked

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>to go hunting with me and my dog, and I've

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>even been nice enough to change my plans to make

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it easier for him to come. However, he has never

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>once invited me to go waterfowl hunting with him, And

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>this is sticking in my craw. He isn't shady about going.

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>He'll send me pictures of the ducks he kills. I've

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>dropped hints that I'd like to go, but still no invite.

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I was raised to believe it's bad manners to invite

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>yourself along. It's been ten years. You don't have a

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>hunting buddy, you have a hunting parasite. Yeah. Yeah, what

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't have like, what if he's not like,

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 1>obviously he's leeching off this dude's dog, So you think

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not just leeching off the duck dudes or whatever?

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Is he going to hunt on his own if he's hunting,

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>if he's hunting with somebody else, they might be like, well,

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>don't invite anybody else. Oh that's all I mean, that

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>goes beyond what we know. So the person writing in now,

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you suckers who've written in here, um, you gotta understand

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>if you think you're gonna to be emboldened here, you

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta understand that we're going off. But you told us

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and if you're leaving out important details and you gotta

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>live with it. But Luke, ten years, they've had ten

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>years morning truck rides together, late night truck rides home.

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:25.919
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't bridge the gap on Like, so, tell

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>me about your duck hunting situation. Yeah, like what's going on?

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Like that's true, man, maybe just asked man, you know

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, there's don't ask to go and there

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>there's there's also trades in hunting that aren't fair. It's

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>like if somebody's like, hey, Clay comes squirrel hunting with me,

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and I go squirrel hunting with them and kill like

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 1>four squirrels and they're like, hey, now you owe me

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>a bear hunt, and it's like sure, I mean, there's

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely some stuff in here that is probably left out,

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, but we only got it. We can only

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>go But like, I know, but I just can help

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>myself to think, like we got to assume. We got

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 1>to assume that the person on the other end of

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the story isn't hearing the answer. M okay. So we're

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>we're talking to the person that wrote in and if

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>they have missed key pieces of stuff that's on them. Yeah,

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>because unlike you know, like a trial, right, everybody comes

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>in and you get to fish it all out. But

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>here it's just that's what you got to go by.

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>But ten years, I mean ten years is a lot

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>of people in my life that we you know, started

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>in a very similar fashion of like, hey, have you

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>tried this spot? Have you tried that spot? And this

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of scenario has played out where it's like I'm

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>happy to lend gear, I'm happy to point people in

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the right direction. I'm happy to have you along. But eventually,

0:36:56.320 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I would say like four or five seasons max. If

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>none of those favors are they don't need to be returned,

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>but they absolutely need to be offered. Yeah, they have

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to be offered. If that doesn't happen, then it's like

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you gotta Yeah. One lesson I've picked up as I've

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 1>gotten older. I think when you're young, like a high

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>school whatever, you're, you and your bodies, you share a

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of gripes, right, I mean that's the age when

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you like actually getting fights with your buddies, like you

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>get like, it's not uncommon to get like in a

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>physical fight with your your friend right at that age.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.399
<v Speaker 1>And I think you enter into a long time of

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>just out of respect or not wanting to make waves,

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you leave a lot unsaid. Um, but I don't I

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>think there would be a way for this guy, like

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you said in the ten in the ten years, for

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>this guy to say, Man, I there's been something on

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>my mind. Um, I just gotta ask you, Uh, how

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 1>can we don't hunt talks again? Yeah? You remember nine

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>years ago? Yeah? Yeah, I felt like it's I feel

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 1>like after ten years, man, you gotta be able to

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>ask you know what I mean? Like, you get like

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you should definitely feel confident in asking this dude what

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 1>what the deal is? Yeah, it's the worst you're gonna

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>lose is you're gonna lose the guy that won't take you.

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna take you. Duck. On all these I

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>find myself kind of rooting for the underdog a little

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>bit because I think that there's a reason for this.

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I would think, I mean, maybe the guy goes man,

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm a member of a duck club that costs me,

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, fifteenth grand a year, and I can't take

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 1>people like there's gotta be But I think he would

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>have included that, yeah, does he split gas with you?

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Like that's I mean, there's there's some character things here

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that we just can't get into, you know. I just

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I just wrote an article, first article that I wrote

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>for the me Eater website, and it was like how

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>to be a good fishing partner. And there's like a

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of little things in there, you know, And if

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>people stop doing that stuff, you're just not gonna get

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>invited invited back. But I mean, in this particular case,

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the guy should Maybe I don't think they're

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>actually that great of friends. Um maybe I don't know.

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>If there's not able to communicate and if he's not

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>getting invited, I don't know, maybe maybe consider trying to

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>find a new duck hunting partner. Oh, Luke, you know,

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I keep forgetting to tell you that you ought to

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>have floating around the back of your head Chester here. Uh,

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>he's opening up form Trampled by Turtles again, and and

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and the show that he's opening for instantly sold out.

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Not instantly, that's a little minch. I think it's because

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Bozeman's shows sell out quick not because of me, particularly,

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>don't don't include all those details. Chester Luca instantly sold out.

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I love it. What's the biggest place you could play?

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think that was the place Dallas Cowboy Stadium. Yeah,

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>ms okay, ramp Chettako, that's the name of this question.

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>A buddy mine, this is a good one. I know

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the answer, but this is a good one. A buddy

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.439
<v Speaker 1>of mine is a big time duck hunter. Doesn't matter.

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter how big time yas buddy mine is

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>a big time duck hunter. We work overnight on the weekends.

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell if that matters. About a month or

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>so ago, whenever, the last day of duck season was

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>for him. He left work early at three a m.

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>So he could go duck hunting. He hunts out of

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>a kayak that he's strapped to the roof of his car.

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>He got to the boat launch and there was a

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:02.760
<v Speaker 1>huge line of guy with real boats on trailers waiting

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to launch. Instead of waiting in the line and having

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to paddle out after all these guys with engines, he

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 1>pulled off on the side of the public road, then

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>carried his kayak in gear a half mile to the ramp.

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>His whole walk down there, guys were honking and messing

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.240
<v Speaker 1>with him. But I don't think he was in the wrong.

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Was he in the wrong to pull off and skip

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the line again? If there's no if there's no other

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:37.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff left out, this guy is absolutely not in the wrong. Man.

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>He carried his kayak a half mile parked out of

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the way. I have to say, as long as it

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't interfere with the loading and unloading or boats at

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.320
<v Speaker 1>the ramp, yeah, absolutely, which it sounds like the system,

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't. It's like, if he walks down that line

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and sticks his thing off the side, it's none of

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>your business, right picture the string? Picture he's hunting on foot?

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Should he just stand there slowly walk up? Or he's swimming?

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Should I read it? A guy just in our parking

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>lot there, there's a guy in a bike. There's a

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 1>whole line of cars waiting to leave the parking lot here.

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what was going on the whole line

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.959
<v Speaker 1>of cars and this guy in the line on a bike.

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I get out of my truck and he's like, what

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>this world needs is more cars, and uh, you know,

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I engaged with him. I engaged with him. But what

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 1>you say, Well, I said everything about what I wanted

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 1>to say, which is, why are you waiting in line

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>with all the cars? Why are you pretending you're in

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a car. You're at a bike and enjoy it's freedom,

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>like going to in their section and leave, Like, why

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>are you standing in line behind six cars? Yeah? The

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>bike is like always the first guy at the d

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I wouldn't be here talking to me.

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd be so far down the road by now because

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm going out and ridden down the sidewalk past everybody

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:02.879
<v Speaker 1>up and one of them and yeah Bozeman, Montana. Yeah Yeah.

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, your problem is you think you're in

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>a car, but you're so boat ramp at it. As

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>long as you are not slowing down somebody else's day,

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>it sounds to me like you made everybody's day faster.

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Good jobs. Yeah, anything to say on that one. I

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>agree completely with what I think everyone else agrees with. Here,

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 1>let me guy for the win. I'm gonna ask you

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>just one Chester and you know it's a minor and

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the only one that can reply. A guy's got a

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:38.359
<v Speaker 1>big case of the ass about people that you're back

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>in your boat down a ramp and you leave your

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 1>headlights on, so the other dudes trying to use the

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>lamp ramp are blinded by your headlights. He's like, do

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 1>you think to turn your lights off? Um? Well, so

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>what do you talk Is it like a double ramp. Yeah,

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it's a double ramp. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you could turn turn your lights off. But it is

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>nice to have, um, like some backup lights on so

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you can actually see on the sides of the ramps.

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes your trailer lights aren't enough, you know what I mean.

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>When you flip your actual lights on, it like lights

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it up a little better out there. You would have

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.439
<v Speaker 1>never occurred to me to shut them off. I think

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>they're just talking about busier boat ramps than than what

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I've been dealing with. I mean, when I read this one,

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, yeah, that that makes total sense.

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>That's that's great because I I've had some some issues

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and non boat ramp scenarios with people leaving their high

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>beams on or just like those new fancy, you know,

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>modern headlights that people run that are seemed to be

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>shockingly bright. But yeah, I'm trying to remember like at

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>these at these tournaments when it's a double ramp if

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I if I shut my lights off or not, and

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I do. I mean you do it?

0:44:56.440 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Are you getting in before daylight? Does up? Do other

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 1>people's lights bother you? I mean that seems like the

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.359
<v Speaker 1>thing that you would be not noticing. I mean not

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.839
<v Speaker 1>any more than like just driving a car down the road,

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>because I've backed up boats so much that it's like,

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, dude, I say, get over it. If

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 1>you're mad about somebody's headlights being in your eyes for

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>like thirty seconds, dude, maybe you're not tough enough to

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 1>back a boat down a public I mean, she's so sensitive.

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I think, dude, that's that's a little too much for me.

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't buy it. I don't buy that one. Okay.

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 1>This one's called land borders and tree stands. This is

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the like of the etiquette questions that we've gotten. I

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 1>would say, what percent have to do with something to

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>do with tree stands? A decent amount? Yeah, it seems

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>like fifty. I've hunted a certain sixty acre piece of

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.359
<v Speaker 1>agriculture woods ground for whitetail deer in western New York

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 1>for five years now. It doesn't matter. I have no

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>that's good five years whatever. It's not like for eighteen generations.

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I have sole permission from the owner. Points out that

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:22.879
<v Speaker 1>it's his girlfriend's grandparents. I wonder if that causes him

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to stay with that girlfriend. Depends how good of a

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 1>property and it's not act no, you're like, He was like,

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, soon I feel like breaking up

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend. And he's on the fence. How many Boone

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and Crocketts are coming out of Western New York ag

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Land though, like like a bunch, you know, it just

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>might be best. He's gotta work with it. Boone felt

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>when he went into Kentucky that first time. He's like, man,

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 1>it's good hunting, but it's pretty sketchy. I have soule

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 1>permission from the owner. Nobody got there, No, I got it.

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 1>It was good. Okay, okay, I have soule permission from

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.839
<v Speaker 1>the owner friends grandparents, and have had to kick the

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 1>neighbors to the east of the property off as well

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>as asked them to remove their stands and cameras multiple times.

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>There's one stand in particular that I'd like your opinion on.

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.760
<v Speaker 1>There is a cattle fence on sad to east side

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>of the property. That divides landownership. This tree stand is

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>a ladder stand, and the bottom of the ladder is

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>The bottom of the ladder is on their side of

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the fence. But the tree they dude, I hate, the

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the ladders on their side of the fence,

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>but the tree they use is on my side of

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>the fence. I've never asked them about moving it because

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:52.440
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, they don't kill any

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 1>deer in that spot around that property in general, because

0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>they're not good hunters. Should I be concerned that one

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 1>day they will kill a big one out of that

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 1>tree stand? So should I just ask them to move it? Now?

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Cut the tree down with them in it too. It's

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 1>a your tree, it's your girlfriend's grandparents tree. Cut it down,

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>game over. Don't even have to worry about it. Cheika,

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>we've selected that tree for firewood. Diseased obviously. Yeah. Yeah,

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole thing like we've had. There's other ones

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't do that we just kind of skimmed by.

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 1>There is like in human psychology, I don't care how

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 1>many acres you give somebody. If there's a property boundary,

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>yeah there, you're gonna put a stand on that line

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>is always greater because you're like, they gotta have a

0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:55.919
<v Speaker 1>lot of deer on the neighbor's place. Yeah, I'd like, Yeah,

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to hear Mark's take on this is just

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>prop I I hate these ones, Like I said, property

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:04.800
<v Speaker 1>boundary tree stands, and I got my I got to

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>give my two cents. Yeah, my two cents is they're

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>they're the neighbors. You You're in the right on a

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of it. But you got to sort of be

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like how far do I really push this? Meaning if

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>all my ass have been reasonable and they've gone along

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 1>with it, do I need to now come to them

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with a thing where they're gonna be like, oh what'll

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.400
<v Speaker 1>what'll he? You know what I mean? Like, do you

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>really need to like just push it and push it

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and push it to a point where you invite uh conflict?

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 1>And this guy, let's in a beautiful spot because it's

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 1>not even they're not his neighbors, so what's he care?

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>It's his girlfriend's grandparents neighbors. So like I guess if

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:49.359
<v Speaker 1>he does force the issue, I don't know, it's weird

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to me, Like if your stand is ultimately in my tree,

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>but I've been given permission to hunt a bunch of places.

0:49:57.239 --> 0:50:03.879
<v Speaker 1>I have never been given permission to run off the neighbors, right,

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, so, are you getting sole permission to hunt?

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Or are you getting sole permission to hunt and manage

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 1>the land as an you know, as a legal representative

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of the land. They wouldn't soule permission to hunt it

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>give you the right to push off people that were

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>illegally hunting it without permission. I would see definitely have

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the talk with the girlfriends folks in order to yeah

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I mean I'd be like, hey, other folks

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 1>are hunting. This is that okay with you? Did somebody

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:41.359
<v Speaker 1>given permission down the line? What's going on here? Right? Like?

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 1>But are you really gonna I mean, yeah, the neighbors,

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the neighbors are in the wrong. But I think to

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Steve's point, like, is it worth fighting this any further?

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And what are you possibly gonna lose? Like you're possibly

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>going to get this? You know they can move three

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>feet over and yeah, right for but is it gonna

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:04.359
<v Speaker 1>be worth whatever bridge you're going to further burn? Yeah,

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:07.320
<v Speaker 1>we don't. We don't mind our neighbors back in Wisconsin

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 1>hunting the property lines because our property is managed much

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>more for deer and everything. And if anything, it they're

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 1>they're not spared about getting to their stands. If anything,

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>what it does is help us out because it pushes

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>deer to the middle. It pushes deer and it keeps

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>them kind of in. It's almost like a fence in

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:35.839
<v Speaker 1>a way. I guess here's here's a permission quick permission story.

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 1>We got permission and have had permission on a on

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a little pond to duck hunt forever. Um. We went

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.719
<v Speaker 1>in there to duck hunt. The actual landowner got a

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 1>call from the neighboring property accusing us of doing all

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:57.319
<v Speaker 1>sorts of Uh. You know, everybody thinks they're the center

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.319
<v Speaker 1>of the universe, right, So if you're hunting ducks on

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 1>one property, of course they're manifesting ways that what your

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>actions are doing are harming them in some way. Right.

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>So there was that call to land and he's like,

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't I hate dealing with those guys. They're always

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:19.840
<v Speaker 1>rude blah blah blah blah blah, and and and he

0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 1>allows them to hunt the same pond on occasion as well.

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:29.759
<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, why don't you let us take

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 1>take care of it, you know, we can go have

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:33.759
<v Speaker 1>that talk with him or whatever. And he's like, well,

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I get to run cattle on this chunk of ground

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in between my other two properties that they own, right,

0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 1>And it's just kind of a thing. So i'd it's

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>worth it to him to put up with the weird

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>hunting stuff on occasion because it makes life so much

0:52:56.719 --> 0:53:01.319
<v Speaker 1>easier on the actual agriculture part of the conversation, right,

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.879
<v Speaker 1>the neighborly agreement type of things. And so that's why

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I do think of like, Okay, you got permission to hunt,

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:13.399
<v Speaker 1>but that's not necessarily permission to manage the property as

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a whole, because there could be the neighbors could very

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:21.399
<v Speaker 1>well be under the impression that, oh yeah, we never

0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:27.760
<v Speaker 1>asked for permission to hunt, but we give the parents

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>all these liberties on our place, and it's just kind

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 1>of a known thing, even though they've never had the conversation. Right.

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I'm like t talk with folks and

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 1>no specifically that you are able to say, hey, hunting season,

0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys can't be on here. Yeah, if this letter

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>had come from a grandpa saying, Hey, I'm a grandpa

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and I owned some land and these neighbors got a tree,

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 1>stay in them, a tree that's different. Oh yeah, all right, lukey,

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.839
<v Speaker 1>got time for one and a half more? Oh yeah,

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of course. My chetickot question is I live in a

0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:06.360
<v Speaker 1>state where I can legally harvest two white tail bucks,

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:09.760
<v Speaker 1>one with a firearm, one with archery equipment. I wounded

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 1>and lost a buck that I am positive died during

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 1>firearm season. The reason I'm not saying anything is I'm

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:25.400
<v Speaker 1>just wondering how positive and why he's positive? Right? Positive

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 1>because he saw it laying dead on the neighbor's place

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and the neighbor wouldn't let him go get it. Or

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:31.600
<v Speaker 1>is he just thinking because of shot. Let's assume he's

0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>just thinking it's got to be dead, okay, right, he

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 1>hasn't seen it, but he's saying like there's no way

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 1>it lived. I then shot another buck and harvested it

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:45.520
<v Speaker 1>during the same firearm season. There's a late archery season.

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Would it be wrong to shoot another buck with my

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 1>archery tag or should I consider both of my bucks

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>being already tagged. A friend and I had a conversation

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:58.360
<v Speaker 1>about this. He thinks I have killed my two bucks

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and I should be done. But legally I can shoot

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 1>another buck. So I don't see the problem. I mean

0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>your question, dude, that's what it is, right a little bit.

0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean legally right, But we're talking about and I

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 1>called the legal I think I think i'd be out.

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I personally, I think i'd be out. You know, best practice,

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>best practice ethics, highest level ethics is yeah, you're out

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 1>because the intent of the laws that you killed two deer.

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 1>But but also there might be a situation when the

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:40.800
<v Speaker 1>year before when you passed on four bucks that everybody

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 1>else could have shot but you didn't, and you needed

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:47.279
<v Speaker 1>the deer meat, and YadA, YadA. I mean, there's there's

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that might that could make you go,

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna follow the letter

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:55.719
<v Speaker 1>of the law, and yeah kill. This is definitely one

0:55:55.760 --> 0:56:01.959
<v Speaker 1>of those kind of unwritten rule moral things, and it's

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 1>probably just based on the person and like how you

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>feel about it. You know, if you're shooting deer and

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you got your freezer's full and that stuff, yeah, probably

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:17.399
<v Speaker 1>probably don't do it. Like, but if you haven't, you've

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 1>been out there trying to get some trying to get

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 1>some meat in your freezer, and you know, you've been

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 1>working your butt off, Sure, go go hunt get another deer.

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you might have a guess what state that is?

0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Wisconsin, Missouri. I was like that, can you do?

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Can you? I mean, can you take does in that state, Wisconsin,

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 1>in those particular states those states? Kid? Well, then then

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the meat question is out of it, right, Yeah, you

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:47.919
<v Speaker 1>don't have to kill a buck, good point to get meat.

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can just shoot a dough if you

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 1>really needed meat. Right, Yeah, my take on it, I

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:55.879
<v Speaker 1>don't see your problem with it. If all respect, like

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:58.839
<v Speaker 1>all respect, if he's like, I'm sure that deer died,

0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm done, don't feel right about it, I totally respect that.

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I would never be like, that's stupid, go get another one.

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, man, that's that's big of you. That's cool.

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 1>But if you said, you know what, I didn't recover it,

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't tag it, I still got a tag, I'd

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.320
<v Speaker 1>be like, you're absolutely right, dude, I don't have any problems.

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think state game agencies account for a certain

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.360
<v Speaker 1>amount of loss in their you know, tag allocations, so

0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 1>like that're assuming a certain amount of that happening. Anyways,

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:30.160
<v Speaker 1>And to Clay's point, I've purchased god knows how many

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 1>antler deer tags that have gone unfilled, right, I mean

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 1>over the years. And yeah, there's another wrinkle I'll add

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>here for this individual to consider. There's one hunt I'm

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm aware of and participate in. It's a big game hunt.

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>And if you wound an animal and they don't ask

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you to determine how well or not well you wounded it,

0:57:55.400 --> 0:58:01.600
<v Speaker 1>if you wound, you tag. So they have the ability

0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 1>if they want it to be that way, right, they

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 1>have the ability to bake that into the regulations. It's

0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 1>not you know, it winds up being like pretty honor system.

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's possible for them to say, you know, if

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you draw blood or wounded animal, tag the animal. That's it.

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.040
<v Speaker 1>You're done, because it's that that's that is a thing

0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that happens. Last one, is this especially appropriate? Um? Everybody

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>in here, with the exception of Callahan, has kids. Um,

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Luke's got one and one on the way. Chelsea's got

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a brand new baby. So here it is. He says,

0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:40.320
<v Speaker 1>not sure if this qualifies as chatti kit. I think

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 1>it does, but we'll ask it anyway. As a new

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 1>dad who also loves hunting, in firearms. A few episodes back,

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Steve mentioned that when his kids have friends over to

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.960
<v Speaker 1>play or for a sleepover, his wife will make the

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:57.040
<v Speaker 1>other parents aware that there are firearms in the house,

0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:03.760
<v Speaker 1>but they are locked up and inaccessible. That I wanted

0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that was true when we that was true in a

0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:11.680
<v Speaker 1>particular setting. We lived in Seattle for a couple of

0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:17.200
<v Speaker 1>years and firearm ownership was not assumed, and it is

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a very left leaning largely, I would say, largely, like

0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, borderline anti gun area, and my wife knew

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that guns were highly politicized there. We weren't doing anything

0:59:31.880 --> 0:59:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that we wouldn't have done. She was just pointing out

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they're locked in a safe and trigger locked, but they're here.

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 1>If you have a problem with that, your kids shouldn't

0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:43.240
<v Speaker 1>come over and be at the house because that's just

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:46.160
<v Speaker 1>what's going on in our house. So heads up, we

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. We don't do that where we live

0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:52.680
<v Speaker 1>now because I can't think of anyone that comes over

0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:55.920
<v Speaker 1>our house that doesn't. So that was a thing we did.

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.520
<v Speaker 1>He says, this hadn't crossed my mind, and I haven't

0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>had the chance to ask my parents. It's if they

1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:02.000
<v Speaker 1>did this or if anyone has said it to them

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. My son just turned ten months. It

1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:08.160
<v Speaker 1>hasn't had any friends sleep over yet, But I want

1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to know for the future if this is proper cheticit.

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<v Speaker 1>Do people expect to be told about firearms in a home?

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<v Speaker 1>He says that we live in southeastern Pennsylvania, right on

1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the edge of suburban Philadelphia. I can see rural families

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<v Speaker 1>saying no shit, so do we. But I can also

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<v Speaker 1>hear some you know, timmy, like some kids mom being

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<v Speaker 1>appalled by the idea of guns in the house. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think, man, I think it's I think I

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<v Speaker 1>get what you're saying about in Seattle area like doing

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<v Speaker 1>that because they could see guncase or whatever and then

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<v Speaker 1>go back and kind of go tattling or whatever however

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call it. But I think as parents,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're responsible and you have these guns locked up,

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<v Speaker 1>like actually locked up, I don't think I would say

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<v Speaker 1>anything one because it might create problems and the parents

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<v Speaker 1>might not want their kid to come over anymore or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. When it's totally not necessary. They should

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<v Speaker 1>be a it will if you're gonna be against guns,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like, I don't know, I think that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're responsible to have a locked up I probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say anything. Yeah. A thing I do feel absolute on

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<v Speaker 1>is if you've got kids around, your kids, other kids, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>If you got kids around, you gotta have a tight

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<v Speaker 1>program when it comes to gun storage. If it's done tight. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my wife's practice. I didn't argue it with

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<v Speaker 1>her too much. I let her know that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bit much. But it's half her house, right,

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<v Speaker 1>she make calls that she you know, she don't mess

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I'm not gonna mess with what she decides

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<v Speaker 1>to tell people. I think it's a little bit beside

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<v Speaker 1>the point. If they're talked away because it's it's it's

1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not an issue. They can't get at them right right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're in the safe especially, I mean trigger

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<v Speaker 1>locks as well in the safe. I mean I personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, to me, there's no point in even bringing

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<v Speaker 1>it up. But I would say it's a person person

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<v Speaker 1>basis of like, if you feel like you need to

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<v Speaker 1>address that with somebody and that makes you feel better

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<v Speaker 1>about making them feel better than do it, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I don't think there's any right or

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<v Speaker 1>wrong answer, Like you know, Obviously, doing the safe thing

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<v Speaker 1>is what you should be doing. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>really what's important, Like you're saying, but how you approach

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<v Speaker 1>it is really what makes you feel better. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a friend who actually had this happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>someone said to his wife, I'm not comfortable having my

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<v Speaker 1>kids in a house that has guns in it, which

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<v Speaker 1>his wife replied, well, don't come over to our house. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I want to know where if

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are going to someone's house that doesn't have guns,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're like suspicious. I'm like, you're telling me if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody comes and robs your house, what my kids aren't there?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there? No, I don't think that the conversation needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be had if everything's locked up right. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a friend who's a detective in Boise and he lives

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<v Speaker 1>in an area where you know, I would say gun

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<v Speaker 1>ownership is not assumed. But when every single kid, this

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<v Speaker 1>was years ago and his kids were at younger ages,

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<v Speaker 1>found out that they're going over to the house and

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<v Speaker 1>the dad's a cop, every single kid had questions about guns.

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<v Speaker 1>And when that would come up, he would then call

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<v Speaker 1>the parents or wait until the end of the play date,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then talk to the parents and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>your child has a bunch of questions about guns. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a detective. If you would like and be open to it,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go. I can show kids guns, we can

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<v Speaker 1>take them shooting, I can go through all the proper

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<v Speaker 1>safety things if if that's something that you would be

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<v Speaker 1>interested in, that's big, right. But there was no assumption

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<v Speaker 1>of like showing somebody else's child guns because just because

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<v Speaker 1>they asked, right, yep. And I always thought that that

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<v Speaker 1>was a good move. But I don't you know, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot of things that are going on

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<v Speaker 1>inside the Ronnella household that could be politicized in some way. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like what? I have no idea, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>do you say, like, hey, howsoween candy. Here's a list

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<v Speaker 1>of things that happen in our house. Just so you're aware, right,

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with the child's play date. I

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<v Speaker 1>did one time have to go report to a neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation that I got roped into where my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>and her friend asked me is right after Chester and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife. Chester's wife had the baby and they told

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<v Speaker 1>the whole baby story, and my daughter and her friend.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter said to me, when your water breaks, does

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<v Speaker 1>it all come out of your head? Led to this

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<v Speaker 1>big one conversation that I then went to the neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, hey, real quick, so this came up

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<v Speaker 1>me and you and my daughter and your daughter. This

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<v Speaker 1>came up and here's where the conversation landed. Just heads

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<v Speaker 1>up in case it comes up. And he says, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. We use real words for real things in

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<v Speaker 1>his household. So you're okay, We've had some laughs, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll joke on aside. Man um, if you've got little

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<v Speaker 1>kids around, uh, and you can you can know that

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<v Speaker 1>your kids are so disciplined and would never do something

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<v Speaker 1>you told him not to do, and not my kids

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<v Speaker 1>are not like that to all that all that prideful

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<v Speaker 1>stuff about how discipline and respectful your kids are. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've got young kids running around, you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a storage plan for firearms. You just do. I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of the proudest dads out there that I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know oftentimes we have our kids will do

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<v Speaker 1>a thing they're not supposed to do, and any parent

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<v Speaker 1>that's acting like that's not a thing is lying to themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know that they have the ability too

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<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna now and then disobey as they test

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries that they I can't guarantee you that they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>choose to test the boundary around a gun that was

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<v Speaker 1>carelessly left out land. You gotta have a program, Luke,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining man of course, thanks for having me,

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<v Speaker 1>guys brought to you and get by Columbia PFG. Luke

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<v Speaker 1>wears it on the stage. You wears it on the water.

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<v Speaker 1>He's wearing it on his damn hat right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>am I am Luke. Good luck with the with the

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<v Speaker 1>album out and um, I'm sure people can watch for

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I got some friends that are holding

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<v Speaker 1>some tickets for one of your shows right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're real excited about They actually sent me a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Yeah, we're excited. Man. It's been been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun, all right. We good luck man. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody else, thanks for sending a man. Keep the

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<v Speaker 1>chattict questions coming and we will keep getting to them

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<v Speaker 1>um as we can. We got I think like fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one pages of them left for next time. Thanks everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeal gra shine like seing the sun all right, I sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 1>we're done beat this damn horse to death, to take

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<v Speaker 1>it to new one and ride a We're done beat

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<v Speaker 1>this damn horse today, So take your new one and

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<v Speaker 1>ride on.