1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: It's im mediated podcast. All right, everybody, we're here for 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: a special, very special episode drop short and sweet, very concise. 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: You asked for it, and we're giving it to you. 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: It is the official and official Chettika episode, probably named 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: after Chester. Yeah, but there's something that I just learned about, 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Like what chettike it actually means in Australia. I know 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: it sang in Australia. Is that where this is from? 8 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you can tell because some of the word choice. 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I say. We start by saying what our version of 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: cheike it is. First, just introduce that to the people. 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Chetik it is outdoors etiquette as funneled through chet Chester's brain, 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: who is the nicest man on the nicest man in 13 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: the world. And not only that, but it sounds good 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: like if Yanni was into etiqutte, as we pointed out, 15 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: and you called it Yanna Kitt. No one's gonna care 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: about that. It sounds like a holiday, Yeah it does. 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: But chettick it sounds great, Ryan n Kitt because you 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: care about that clay a kit that's stupid. So it's 19 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: chettictt And then uh yeah, so so Chetika leads the thing. 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: We went out to the audience and got all their 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: conundrums and manners, a lot of them tons, moral quandaries, 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: moral quandaries that come from outdoor live and we're gonna 23 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: be giving advice and to help us here today we 24 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: have Clay Nukam, Mark Kenyon from Wired to Hunt, Hello Loo, 25 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Old cal Callahan, and Chester the Investor is here 26 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: as well. Not only that, but we have Luke Combs 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: joining us. And I'll point out too that this special drop, 28 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: the special episode is sponsored by Columbia PFG. 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UM. 38 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: I used to run around in the sun all the 39 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: time in a T shirt or nothing, and I never 40 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: wore a hearing protection when I shot firearms, and those 41 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: are two things I'm trying to correct. It's too late, 42 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: but I'm trying. It's better late than never. It's true. Luke, 43 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: you where you're a black isn't it like a black 44 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: um fishing shirt? For like most of your concerts? Yeah, 45 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: I wear the yeah, like all of them. Literally, it's 46 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of like the only thing I wear um performance. Uh, 47 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's the Bahama two. The black Bahama two 48 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: is what I've been wearing. Yeah, like literally every show 49 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: for seven seven years. Probably kind of like a lucky Wow. Yeah, 50 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: just have the one though. That's it's just this starting 51 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: to you know, after after thousands of shows, starting to 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: wear out a little bit. You know. Luke Holmbs has 53 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: a new album out. Tell us about that loop, Yeah, 54 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: I do, I do um. It's called Getting Old, which 55 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: I think is is fitting. Um, you know, I don't know. 56 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: I guess for me, it's just a bit of you know, 57 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: everyone's like, man, you're thirty three, you're not getting old, 58 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, And I was like, well, it's more of it. 59 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: I guess coming of age right would have been kind 60 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: of the thing. Right. So I've been married, you know 61 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: for I'm you know, coming up on three years an 62 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: album my wife for seven. Um, you know, we got 63 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: second kid on the way, I get first one at 64 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: the house, you know, and um, just I don't know, 65 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: life is, life is changing in a lot of ways, 66 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: and UM, I really want to you know, continue to 67 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: grow with with my fan base and and write songs 68 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: that I'm passionate about that I feel like speak to 69 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, my life and where it is now and 70 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: and I think that probably correlates pretty strongly to um 71 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: where a lot of my fans lives are at as well. 72 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: And so I just want to always kind of you know, 73 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: continue to be to be true to myself and you know, 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: as I as I keep putting music out, and um, 75 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: this album's kind of the first step in that direction 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: for me as someone who is legitimately getting old. Um, 77 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: I'd like to point out that the character that the 78 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: getting old person, the character the representation of Luke still 79 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: has a little fight left in him. I mean, come on, 80 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: oh for sure, it's got a little get up and 81 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: go left in him. Was not quite as as it 82 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: once was. Absolutely, man, Absolutely it's more focused. What's the 83 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: what's the best song on the album, Luke? Your opinion? 84 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: Got one, just one. I think it's that one. Um, 85 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: if I could only pick one, I mean my favorite, 86 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, probably maybe like Where the Wild Things Are? 87 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: It's great. I think, um back forty back for me 88 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: is up there. Um, guy, there's a bunch man. I 89 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: love him all dude. It's a hard question for me 90 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: when I listened, when I listened to the album and 91 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: its entirety. The first time I texted Luke and I was, 92 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: uh pleasantly surprised, surprised that he covers Tracy Chapman's fast Card. Yeah, 93 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: classic tune there and I thought, I thought was I 94 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: thought it was a good move, man, I like it 95 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: did Dan? Did Dan and Red help you with a 96 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: few of these are? Yeah? Yeah, Dan and Reid have 97 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: written I think Reid's two or three on here. I mean, 98 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: I know, I think Dan has like six. I think 99 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: I want to hear. So. Yeah, they helped me out 100 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 1: quite a bit for sure. If you look up. So 101 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: so Luke's gonna stick around, You're gonna help us out, 102 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: and that you're gonna help us out with the etiquette 103 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: take on it. I'll tell you the stories and then 104 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: you got to work up with what your suggestion is, 105 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: but but it was We wanted to point out Karin 106 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: typed in chattiket into the Urban dictionary. Mm hmm is 107 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: that what dictionary this is? Yeah, yeah, but it was 108 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: drafted in June sixteen, twenty twenty one, which means, uh, 109 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: we'd already come up with chatt kit by then, wouldn't 110 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: that be true? I think so, Yeah, it's been. That 111 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: would have been right around almost almost two years. So 112 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: the Australian thing is not that far off. It's chattikit um. 113 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: It's not a real word. Smith to put it together. 114 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: But that's bad chetket man or that's bad chetic it mate, 115 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: meaning to be a knob or a ceu next Tuesday. 116 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: In social situations, them being very free and easy with 117 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: that that particular expression in that part of the world. Uh, okay, 118 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: here's our first chat. Here's our first ethical conundrum. It 119 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: involves it's called your ex wife's new husband. You know 120 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be bad. Wow, Okay. Guy goes on, there's 121 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: a nice piece of family owned property. You're following, nice 122 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: piece of family owned property large enough for four to 123 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: five hunters max that has great deer and small game hunting. 124 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: But a limited amount of said game. During the divorce, 125 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: it's decided that the land will stay with the husband 126 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: so that the near adult kids can continue to use it, 127 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: with the clause that if the land ever gets sold, 128 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: then fifty percent of the profit goes to the ex wife. Subsequently, 129 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: the ex wife remarries and the new husband is a 130 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: public land hunter who's licking his chops at the chance 131 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: to hunt some new private land. So even though the 132 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: ex wife tells the new husband he can hunt the 133 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: property because it's half hers, does the etiquette question fall 134 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: on the ex husband to allow or not allow the 135 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: new husband to hunt the property? Or it does it 136 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: fall on the new husband? This becomes very loaded. Well, 137 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: it sounds like the question, well can we clarify something? 138 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: Question too? Can I finish? Go ahead? I finished the question, 139 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: I got the answer already, so yeah, I'm going to 140 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: finish the question. Yeah, because it's becomes very So far, 141 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: it's done a pretty good job, right, But then it 142 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: becomes loaded. Does the adiquatete question fall on the x 143 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: husband to allow or not allow the new husband to 144 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: hunt the property? Or doesn't fall on the new husband 145 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: to do the right thing and just stay off the 146 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: property a right answer, dude, I think legally, I mean, 147 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: first off, no shot this guy's getting on this there's 148 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: no shot. There's no scenario I'm letting this guy on 149 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: this place in any way, right, there's no shot. And legally, 150 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: as long as it doesn't get sold, it's it's the husband, 151 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: the ex husband's right. Legally, that's what they agree to. Yeah, 152 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: so I think the etiquette's not even in the question. 153 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: I think it's legal sense of like, yeah, I mean 154 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of etiquette in there with the 155 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: the the husband who actually owns it. The first dude 156 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: in the picture, like being a nice guy, but still 157 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: he's he's dating. Is you don't need to be nice 158 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: to your ex wife's husband. No, No No, there's there's your 159 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: your your question that there's a dynamic that's much bigger 160 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: than we can speculate on. But let's say there's a 161 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: split and in the in the couple, the former couples 162 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: trying to be amiable and they're trying to I mean, 163 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: there would be a scenario. I don't think that's what 164 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: they're shooting for. It doesn't sound like we need, you know, 165 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: what we need with all these is a state we 166 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: need to know what state it is. I think it 167 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: would make a big difference. I'm going to speak to 168 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: the from my answer. I'm going to speak to the 169 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: X husband, and I'm gonna ask if if you're listening 170 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: out there and you're the and you're the X husband, 171 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask this question. The answer to this question 172 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: is the answer to this conundrum. If you remarry and 173 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: your new wife okay says I'd sure like to go 174 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: out there hunting with you, Are you gonna say no? 175 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: That's the only thing that to me, that's it. If 176 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: he says, no way in hell, I'd let my new 177 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: wife hunt that place. It's for our new adult kids. 178 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,479 Speaker 1: But did they fall If he's like, oh no, my 179 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: my new wife can hunt it, but my x wi's 180 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: new husband, no way, then that I think that's a 181 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: that's a that's a double standard. Yeah. But he owns 182 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: it though, right, it's his yeh, didn't he have more 183 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: share in it? It's not solely for the use of 184 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: the children. He owns it so that the children can 185 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: use it, right, that's what it sounded like. Yeah, so 186 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: the hunt it himself. Yeah, I gather he can hunt 187 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: it with the near adult kids. Let's let's put it 188 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: to vote. Cal where do you think about this? It's 189 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: not worth it, like, just not not worth it. Go 190 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: find someplace else to hunt. You're speaking to the new husband. Yeah, honestly, 191 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: the whole group. It's like it sounds so like it's 192 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: mentally it will be far easier and your successes will 193 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: be far greater if you do not step foot on 194 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: this place. Donate it to somebody, right, donate it to conservation. Yeah, 195 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: all right. To clarify, these aren't hypotheticals. These are real life. Okay, 196 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: these are real life situation. There's a there's a real 197 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 1: husband and ex husband dealing with this right now. No, 198 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: there's a whole show called Yellowstone that is dealing with 199 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: this right now. So is there an answer in there? 200 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: The answer I think like if you Okay, there's there's 201 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: two questions. Let's let's put this way. We need to 202 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: there's an answer for the new husband. My answer for 203 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: the new husband, um, my answer for the new husbands, 204 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go there, agreed. No, My answer for the 205 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: ex husband is, if you would take again, if you 206 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: would allow your new wife to hunt it, you should 207 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: let her new husband hunt it. But I think you 208 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: do that with the assumption and going in there, but 209 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: he'll never take me up on it. I think you 210 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: would be like, Wow, the nice thing to do would 211 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: be like say yes, sure, But in the back of 212 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: your mind you're thinking, I'm sure he will realize I'm 213 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: just trying to be nice and he will back away 214 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: because of how awkward this whole situation would be. Well, 215 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: he is quote licking his chops. Man. Yeah, I mean 216 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: maybe they like each other, though, who knows? Do you 217 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: want anybody? I think this would be a way better show. 218 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: Kari should have all these people in the new husband 219 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: the old husband's friends sat. Okay, So let's Doug Duran 220 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: sharing the land. This okay. These folks set up a 221 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: share system based on the calendar year. They have their 222 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: primary shareholders, which are the near adult children adult kids, um, 223 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: which it's like, what's the syndrome where they stay in 224 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: the nest forever? I know, empty noess, Yeah, the failure 225 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: to launch. That's what we're dealing with here and away. 226 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: They're your primary shareholders. They agree on a certain amount 227 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: of equity let's say that can be purchased by putting 228 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: in sweat, you know, mitigating noxious weeds, taking down old 229 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: tree stands, maybe some controlled burning, something fun like that 230 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: that buys them shares in the remaining calendar year that 231 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: the primary share shareholder. Doesn't this sound like fun to everybody? Yeah? Yeah, 232 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean you're like really assuming a lot of you know, 233 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: like that's right, it's like, oh for sure, but it's 234 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: to me, it'd be way easier than like, um oh boy, 235 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: I wonder what people will think of this. Oh, he 236 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: actually took me up on it. Oh do you think 237 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: it's right that he invited her out? I mean, turn 238 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: my back on the whole thing. Yeah, more I think 239 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: about it. I only have a message for the new husband. 240 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Sounds like a nightmare for sure. My messag new husbands. 241 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: Do you just go the other direction? Man? Yeah, yeah, 242 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: here's one. Here's one. Won't take any time. It's interesting. 243 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm sorry, I got it, new husband. Go 244 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: buy yourself a sweet Walley or bass boat like top 245 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: of the line, all the stuff. Make sure there's a 246 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: couple other seats that go completely unoccupied in it, and 247 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: just take lots of pictures of your Your day is 248 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: out on the water by yourself with empty seats around you. Yeah, 249 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: I like that when ice fishing and you see a 250 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: guy gal just slaying fish, I can picture this and 251 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: they pack up and leave. How long should you wait 252 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: before sliding into fish the hotspot? Zero zero zero? Yeah, 253 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: because somebody else's probably gonna be running right for it. 254 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: I would do less than waiting to be over there. 255 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh you guys are packing up? Are you all about 256 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: to leave them? Right? I mean you do understand that 257 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: you're exchanging a little bit of dignity. You're eating some 258 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: humble pie and exchange for the for fish for the 259 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: hot hole? Yeah, which is fine. You know I would 260 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: probably I would probably go over if I found myself 261 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: in this situation. I know, cal does this, Like you 262 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: just go up and talk to those fellows and you know, 263 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: you guys leave him and hop right in there. Yeah. Yeah, 264 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: that's why it's That's why I was like, that's why 265 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: I had kids, is if you have kids, even when 266 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: you see like when they're slaying, you might go up 267 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: and you can put it on and you'd be like, hey, 268 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, my kid really love to catch you fish man. 269 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: If you guys or getting out of here, if you 270 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind letting me know so I can help my kid, 271 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: catch a fish right right? You put all that on 272 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: a kid. Okay, here's the one called calling for fun. 273 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: Spring gobbler came in here in upstate South Carolina, April first. 274 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: For the last two weeks, every morning after I dropped 275 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: two of the three kids off at school, I take 276 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: the cut road home, where I know turkeys are often 277 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: in a vast crop field. His choice of words, vast 278 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: crop field. I'll pull over, put the windows down and 279 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: call to them for a while to see if I 280 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: can get them fired up. Totally understandable. Yesterday, signed Luke Combs. 281 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: I'll pull over, put the windows down, get them firt up. 282 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: This is a large private egg field that, as far 283 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: as I can tell, has no interest in hunting these birds. 284 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: I think what he means, As far as you can tell, 285 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: no one's hunting the birds. The other day, when the 286 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: season came in, I pulled over to throw some calls 287 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: out when I noticed a truck on the other wooded 288 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: side of the road, which is a different property. Okay, 289 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: I figured it to be a hunter after some birds. 290 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: What would be the chetta kit with regards to me 291 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: calling for fun off a public road to birds out 292 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: in the field. When there is a hunter somewhere in 293 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: dem woods trying to bag one. Can can he hunt 294 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: that field? It sounds like simple? Then yes? Then then 295 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean why mess with it? Why during the season? 296 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I think I think before season you can 297 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: Luke combs it and you can do that. But when 298 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: season starts, you gotta back out. You can't be calling 299 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: on people other people's birds, just for specially when there's 300 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: a guy sitting out there. Yeah, especially you know he's 301 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: calling the same birds. It's not like there's you know, 302 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: he's trying to get the same birds to the spot 303 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: he's at and you're out there just on the way 304 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: to work, like sending in the other direction. Best case scenarios, 305 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: the birds come, there's nothing you can do anyways, Yeah, 306 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: you can't do anything. So why you know? Here's a 307 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: trickier one. I like this one better. It's called family 308 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: members mooching. This takes place near This guy says he's 309 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: not far from Bubbly Doug's farm in southwest Wisconsin, and 310 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: in fact, he has met Bubbly Doug. He says, my 311 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: family has owned a farm in southwest Wisconsin for over 312 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: one hundred years. People always like to us a comment 313 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: quick comment here. Um, I don't know that that matters, 314 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: but anyhow, there is a brushy dick means he's proud 315 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: of it. Steve, Oh, I know, I know what he's 316 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: getting at here. I know I where he's going with 317 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: us there. Um, there is a brush. I pay attention 318 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: here because this gets this gets counted, It starts, this 319 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: gets geographical. There's a brushy ditch that sets up nicely 320 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: for deer drives or mooches. Every year we seem to 321 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: push a nice buck out and have killed many out 322 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: of this small easy drive over the years, usually after 323 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: opening day, pressure pushes them into this ditch. A few 324 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: years ago, my dad sold a number of acres as 325 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: he's nearing retirement, and this ditch and pasture were part 326 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: of that sale. Here's where it gets complicated, folks. He 327 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: goes on to say this, and I'm quoting my uncle, 328 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: and then a parenthetical and neighbor was aware of the 329 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: sale and also well aware of this particular deer drive. 330 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: My intern repretation and Chester and I discuss this. My 331 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: interpretation is, even though the family has done this dear 332 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: drive historically, my interpretation is this uncle has not been 333 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: part of this deer drive. So even though he's saying, 334 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: my family does this deer drive on this brushy ditch, 335 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm gathering here and analyzing it with Chester or he 336 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: was allowed to hunt it, and he just but we 337 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: gotta just go with one, dude, because it can't be both, 338 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: because it's way different. Yeah, so retract what you said, 339 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: take that back, apologize, we can. We can analyze that 340 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: down the roll. But like it gets because you know 341 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: what I mean. Yes, they're therein lies the therein is 342 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, we'll tackle both. We'll tackle both, but 343 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, I'd like for you to start 344 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: with it. Already sounds semi legal. Whatever we're getting it 345 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: already sounds shading. My uncle and neighbor was aware of 346 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: the sale and also well aware of this particular deer 347 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: drive we have done for the past few decades and 348 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: aware of its success the very first year after the sale, 349 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: not only that, the very first day of deer season, 350 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: so they historically waited untill later in the season. The uncle, 351 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: on the first day of the new year after the sale, 352 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: the first day of deer season after the sale, goes 353 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: to the new buyer and says, hey, can I do 354 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: a deer drive in the brushy draw we just sold 355 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: you sure, and doesn't bust in there and does the 356 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: drive and doesn't. Sounds like uncle might not be a 357 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: great hunter too. Sounds like yeah, or like in the family, 358 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: he says, Christmas has never been the same since that 359 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: fateful deer drive. I mean, at least invite the family. 360 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with him asking permission to go do it. 361 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: He kind of beat him to it, because he could 362 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: have been the hero of the family. Yeah, he could 363 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: could have been like, guess what, everybody, I got us 364 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: all permission to go do the That's a good point. 365 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: He could have been like, man, I know everybody's been 366 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: super bummed out since dad had to sell the place, 367 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't talk to the guy and everybody. Guess what, 368 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: we could continue the deer drive, right, But it feels 369 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: like he may be taking vengeance out for like you're saying, 370 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: having never been a part of the deer drive. It's 371 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: what it now. It sounds like to me there's another 372 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: thing that could be See. You know, if these folks 373 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: are listening, um, Lauren Laramie Laramie's listening, you better not 374 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: be leaving out some details here. He has a shaky 375 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: uncle dave. You know, a guy who's super dangerous to 376 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: h Oh no day of that guy. Oh yeah, my 377 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: kids will come running home by how they got yelled 378 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: at by some old man I don't know where out 379 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: of the blue. I'm like, let's just hate kids. What happened? Whoa? 380 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: You know? We were in his yard with her bows 381 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: and practicing fire shot it over towards his house and 382 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: and uh bye and bye he yelled, get off of 383 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: his yard. Like okay, that makes you know, I think 384 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: your your point as well, taking their se because it's 385 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: real clear that the way the story's told and it's 386 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: been presented that this guy, it's like, yeah he was shady, 387 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: But if you had that guy in here, he might 388 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: be the same one of the bunch and say, you 389 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: know what I had, you know, I mean there's a 390 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: thousand different ways this could go, and you could you 391 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: could take a kind of a character assessment and he 392 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: might be like, you know what, those guys were outlaws 393 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: and they were killing more dear than they should and 394 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: they were doing this and we never liked that. We 395 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: always wanted to manage the land. I mean, he might 396 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: have a story it's possible. It's possible. Maybe the uncle's 397 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: an ultruist in that we haven't talked about how he's 398 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: where he's pushing this drive. Maybe he's going to drive 399 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: the deer back onto The kind of lingering question was like, 400 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: did he not even call anyone to say, hey, heads up, right? 401 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: Because sometimes you get permission and you're not even prepared 402 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: for permission, right, Like oh, I bumped into the person 403 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: at the post office and they said, hey, my family 404 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: comes out next week. If you want to hunt, you 405 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: can hunt tomorrow, but just you and just you right, 406 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: And you're like, good, right, that's true, that's true. Or 407 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: how about this, let's say the dad. Let's say the 408 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: uncle used to own that place, but the dad came 409 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: over his place and tripped and fell on the ice 410 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: and did a dirty lawsuit and one that land back 411 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: unfairly interesting. We don't We don't know anymore. And what 412 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: we got to see here, there's a lot of takes. 413 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: What we do, what we have to go by, complicated 414 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: by what we have to go by. Just that's it. 415 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: By the version that we have heard, um that the 416 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: uncles will blow hard. Does does Chester get a final 417 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: say on any of these given that this is Chettikett. Yeah, yeah, 418 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: we could do that. I would declare a winner. Yeah, 419 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm just putting myself in old uncle's shoes. And uh, 420 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: I would definitely invite the family to do that, dear drive, 421 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: at least gave them heads up or explain my situation 422 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: and not just go out there and do it. Because 423 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: if it was like, oh, I'm the only one that 424 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: can do this, drive, but be ready because you guys 425 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: know where they're going to run, Like Mark was saying, um, yeah, 426 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: just let them know, communicate. It's really easy. But that's 427 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: great advice. Chester. But if you're the uncle, there also 428 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: begs the question you're the uncle for a minute, mhm, 429 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: why did you go ask permission to hunt the ditch? 430 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: Because because I really like deer hunting and that's okay. 431 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: Here here's a good one. This is one. This is 432 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: one of those I don't I honestly don't know the 433 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: answer to this, but I'm developing an opinion ready for 434 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: this right and again, what Jester will have the final say? 435 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: Checking other folks trail camps. I'm sure Marks anything Mark 436 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: knows about so situation we place trail camps on public 437 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: land as part of our scouting process. While doing this, 438 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: every once in a while we'll find another hunter's camera. 439 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: We usually hike around with a small laptop while placing ours. 440 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: So the question is ding ding? Would it be bad 441 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: etiquette to open the other guy or gals camera and 442 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: take a look at the card and then place it 443 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: back leaving no trace meaning it's on public land. Yeah, 444 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: so my take is that that is poor Chetti kid 445 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Yeah, it might not lead to some 446 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: kind of negative outcome because it's still there, But how 447 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: many times for those who use cameras, have you turned 448 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: one on and off, took a card out, put it 449 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: back in and something goes wrong with the settings, Like 450 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: you're just risking some kind of issue, and it just 451 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: feels kind of dirty, like you're pulling up someone else's 452 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: hood and looking in just interfering with something that's not yours. 453 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: And who knows this person might have just stumbled upon 454 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: this trail camera and looks at the pictures and the 455 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: next thing you know, he's like holy cow, and he's 456 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: now in your hunting spot and you put all the 457 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: work in and put that camera out. Just I'd like 458 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: to ask the guy that rolled in I'd say this 459 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: to them. I'd be like, let's say you park your 460 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: truck on public land and you come back and there's 461 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: a guy kind of sitting in your truck going through everything. Yeah, 462 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: he's like, Oh, I'm gonna take anything, man, I'm gonna 463 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: taking anything. It's some public land, bro. I do ask 464 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: folks who are big into trailcams why they put the 465 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: trail cams out. I'm like, you know, it's a great 466 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: hunting spot, You've shot big deer there. Why would you 467 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: advertise to other people that you have an interest in 468 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: that spot? So they're probably not that far along yet. 469 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're kind of running the risk of somebody 470 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: pulling up your hood. And take a look at what 471 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: I've done in a couple of situations with the trail cameras. 472 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: Is I've put I've written. I've got a picture on 473 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: my phone of writing with a black marker on a 474 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: trail camera on public land. You right on the camera. 475 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: I wrote my name and my phone number, and I said, 476 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: please don't steal I'll share the pictures with you if 477 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: you call me. I'll had a lot on it. Oh 478 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: your camera, I thought you were my camera on public 479 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: land in a locked box that they could have beat 480 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: off a tree and stolen or something. And I wrote 481 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: on there my phone number, and I said, if you 482 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: find this chill camera and you don't steal it, call me. 483 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: I'll share all the pictures. Have you ever gotten a 484 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: phone call? You never got a picture. I did have 485 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: somebody come up and check it, like I just saw 486 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: their legs and they and actually didn't have a lock 487 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: on the camera at the time. On the box. They 488 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: opened it up, took the camera out, and then put 489 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: it back, so I very well may have checked it. 490 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: I did the name and phone number on a camera 491 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: mine like a decade ago, and it did get stolen. 492 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: They stole it. They returned it to Cabella's to get 493 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 1: money for it, and then Cabella's after after taking that return, 494 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: looked on the back of the camera, saw the name 495 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: and number and called me and said, hey, I think 496 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 1: someone stole your camera and we have it here at 497 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: the store and I got it back. Yeah. Really, you 498 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: know that'd be a good way to double how many 499 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: cameras you got t tell your body return to camera. 500 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: So chaster was the final thing. Check him or don't 501 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: check him? Don't check him? Man it just feels dirty. 502 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: I like Clay's little thing, lock it and putting a 503 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: name on it. It's kind of like here I am. 504 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's very similar to that. If you find 505 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: somebody else's tree stand on public land, you go sit it, 506 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: and I feel the same way about it. I'm not 507 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: gonna touch it if it's a permanent Yeah, it's like 508 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: in the old days when you used to just nail 509 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: them up there out of wood. I think that's that's 510 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: just that's that becomes part of the tree in my bo. 511 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: But I mean if someone puts a hang on and 512 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: climbing sticks. I know some people go and sit in 513 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: somebody else's stand, but I feels the same way to me. 514 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: What's your view on leaving tree stands? I would public land, 515 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: I would say, not having like a moral take on him, 516 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: but just it doesn't seem practical to me because you're 517 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: risking people coming in taking it or doing what call 518 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: just mentioned, like seeing your spot and being like, oh 519 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: someone else thought this is good. Yeah, more an etiquette 520 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: on leaving the camera. But I also want people. I 521 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: want people to understand it's like by putting that out there, 522 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: you you have already given them something Mark. One of 523 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: the best ones that Ease we ever got was a 524 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: guy who was in sort of a tree stand duel 525 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: with someone where they each had climbers latched onto a tree, 526 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: and they were he was practicing a certain sort of 527 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: etiquette where he would always attach his down below the 528 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: same tree. Yeah, so if he hunted the tree, he 529 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: would move his stand down below as a courtesy so 530 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: that the other guy would be able to climb and 531 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: not have to undo his like a climber, and the 532 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: guy wouldn't return the courtesy. And how they were supposed 533 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: to sort that out? So many of these have to do. 534 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: What's amazing. There's one guy says, dear Chat, I would 535 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: like your opinion. The subject is when you're hunting, buddy 536 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: never invites you hunting it no more do not? We 537 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: do not, So, dear Chat, I would like your opinion 538 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: on a quandary I have with a hunting buddy. A 539 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: while ago we started upland bird hunting together. Neither of 540 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: us had a dog, so that first season was pretty tough. 541 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: By the following season I had a bird dog and 542 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: we started to do much better. About that time, he 543 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: started waterfoul hunting. My issue is that he always asked 544 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: to go hunting with me and my dog, and I've 545 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: even been nice enough to change my plans to make 546 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: it easier for him to come. However, he has never 547 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: once invited me to go waterfowl hunting with him, And 548 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: this is sticking in my craw. He isn't shady about going. 549 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: He'll send me pictures of the ducks he kills. I've 550 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: dropped hints that I'd like to go, but still no invite. 551 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: I was raised to believe it's bad manners to invite 552 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: yourself along. It's been ten years. You don't have a 553 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: hunting buddy, you have a hunting parasite. Yeah. Yeah, what 554 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: if he doesn't have like, what if he's not like, 555 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: obviously he's leeching off this dude's dog, So you think 556 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: he's not just leeching off the duck dudes or whatever? 557 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: Is he going to hunt on his own if he's hunting, 558 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: if he's hunting with somebody else, they might be like, well, 559 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: don't invite anybody else. Oh that's all I mean, that 560 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: goes beyond what we know. So the person writing in now, 561 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: you suckers who've written in here, um, you gotta understand 562 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: if you think you're gonna to be emboldened here, you 563 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: gotta understand that we're going off. But you told us 564 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: and if you're leaving out important details and you gotta 565 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: live with it. But Luke, ten years, they've had ten 566 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: years morning truck rides together, late night truck rides home. 567 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: Like you can't bridge the gap on Like, so, tell 568 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: me about your duck hunting situation. Yeah, like what's going on? 569 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: Like that's true, man, maybe just asked man, you know 570 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, there's don't ask to go and there 571 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: there's there's also trades in hunting that aren't fair. It's 572 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: like if somebody's like, hey, Clay comes squirrel hunting with me, 573 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: and I go squirrel hunting with them and kill like 574 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: four squirrels and they're like, hey, now you owe me 575 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: a bear hunt, and it's like sure, I mean, there's 576 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: definitely some stuff in here that is probably left out, 577 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: you know, but we only got it. We can only 578 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: go But like, I know, but I just can help 579 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: myself to think, like we got to assume. We got 580 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: to assume that the person on the other end of 581 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: the story isn't hearing the answer. M okay. So we're 582 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: we're talking to the person that wrote in and if 583 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: they have missed key pieces of stuff that's on them. Yeah, 584 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: because unlike you know, like a trial, right, everybody comes 585 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: in and you get to fish it all out. But 586 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: here it's just that's what you got to go by. 587 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: But ten years, I mean ten years is a lot 588 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: of people in my life that we you know, started 589 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: in a very similar fashion of like, hey, have you 590 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: tried this spot? Have you tried that spot? And this 591 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: kind of scenario has played out where it's like I'm 592 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: happy to lend gear, I'm happy to point people in 593 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: the right direction. I'm happy to have you along. But eventually, 594 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: I would say like four or five seasons max. If 595 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: none of those favors are they don't need to be returned, 596 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: but they absolutely need to be offered. Yeah, they have 597 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: to be offered. If that doesn't happen, then it's like 598 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: you gotta Yeah. One lesson I've picked up as I've 599 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: gotten older. I think when you're young, like a high 600 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: school whatever, you're, you and your bodies, you share a 601 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: lot of gripes, right, I mean that's the age when 602 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: you like actually getting fights with your buddies, like you 603 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: get like, it's not uncommon to get like in a 604 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: physical fight with your your friend right at that age. 605 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: And I think you enter into a long time of 606 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: just out of respect or not wanting to make waves, 607 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: you leave a lot unsaid. Um, but I don't I 608 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: think there would be a way for this guy, like 609 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: you said in the ten in the ten years, for 610 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: this guy to say, Man, I there's been something on 611 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: my mind. Um, I just gotta ask you, Uh, how 612 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: can we don't hunt talks again? Yeah? You remember nine 613 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: years ago? Yeah? Yeah, I felt like it's I feel 614 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: like after ten years, man, you gotta be able to 615 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: ask you know what I mean? Like, you get like 616 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: you should definitely feel confident in asking this dude what 617 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: what the deal is? Yeah, it's the worst you're gonna 618 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: lose is you're gonna lose the guy that won't take you. 619 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna take you. Duck. On all these I 620 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: find myself kind of rooting for the underdog a little 621 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: bit because I think that there's a reason for this. 622 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: I would think, I mean, maybe the guy goes man, 623 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: I'm a member of a duck club that costs me, 624 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, fifteenth grand a year, and I can't take 625 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: people like there's gotta be But I think he would 626 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: have included that, yeah, does he split gas with you? 627 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: Like that's I mean, there's there's some character things here 628 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: that we just can't get into, you know. I just 629 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: I just wrote an article, first article that I wrote 630 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: for the me Eater website, and it was like how 631 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: to be a good fishing partner. And there's like a 632 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: lot of little things in there, you know, And if 633 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: people stop doing that stuff, you're just not gonna get 634 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: invited invited back. But I mean, in this particular case, 635 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: I think the guy should Maybe I don't think they're 636 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: actually that great of friends. Um maybe I don't know. 637 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: If there's not able to communicate and if he's not 638 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: getting invited, I don't know, maybe maybe consider trying to 639 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: find a new duck hunting partner. Oh, Luke, you know, 640 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: I keep forgetting to tell you that you ought to 641 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: have floating around the back of your head Chester here. Uh, 642 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: he's opening up form Trampled by Turtles again, and and 643 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: and the show that he's opening for instantly sold out. 644 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:51,959 Speaker 1: Not instantly, that's a little minch. I think it's because 645 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: Bozeman's shows sell out quick not because of me, particularly, 646 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: don't don't include all those details. Chester Luca instantly sold out. 647 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: I love it. What's the biggest place you could play? 648 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: And I think that was the place Dallas Cowboy Stadium. Yeah, 649 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: ms okay, ramp Chettako, that's the name of this question. 650 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: A buddy mine, this is a good one. I know 651 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: the answer, but this is a good one. A buddy 652 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 1: of mine is a big time duck hunter. Doesn't matter. 653 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how big time yas buddy mine is 654 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: a big time duck hunter. We work overnight on the weekends. 655 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: I can't tell if that matters. About a month or 656 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: so ago, whenever, the last day of duck season was 657 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: for him. He left work early at three a m. 658 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: So he could go duck hunting. He hunts out of 659 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: a kayak that he's strapped to the roof of his car. 660 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: He got to the boat launch and there was a 661 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 1: huge line of guy with real boats on trailers waiting 662 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: to launch. Instead of waiting in the line and having 663 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: to paddle out after all these guys with engines, he 664 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: pulled off on the side of the public road, then 665 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: carried his kayak in gear a half mile to the ramp. 666 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: His whole walk down there, guys were honking and messing 667 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 1: with him. But I don't think he was in the wrong. 668 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: Was he in the wrong to pull off and skip 669 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: the line again? If there's no if there's no other 670 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: stuff left out, this guy is absolutely not in the wrong. Man. 671 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: He carried his kayak a half mile parked out of 672 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: the way. I have to say, as long as it 673 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: doesn't interfere with the loading and unloading or boats at 674 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: the ramp, yeah, absolutely, which it sounds like the system, 675 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: it wouldn't. It's like, if he walks down that line 676 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: and sticks his thing off the side, it's none of 677 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: your business, right picture the string? Picture he's hunting on foot? 678 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: Should he just stand there slowly walk up? Or he's swimming? 679 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: Should I read it? A guy just in our parking 680 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: lot there, there's a guy in a bike. There's a 681 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: whole line of cars waiting to leave the parking lot here. 682 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on the whole line 683 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,959 Speaker 1: of cars and this guy in the line on a bike. 684 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: I get out of my truck and he's like, what 685 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: this world needs is more cars, and uh, you know, 686 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: I engaged with him. I engaged with him. But what 687 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: you say, Well, I said everything about what I wanted 688 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: to say, which is, why are you waiting in line 689 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: with all the cars? Why are you pretending you're in 690 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: a car. You're at a bike and enjoy it's freedom, 691 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: like going to in their section and leave, Like, why 692 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: are you standing in line behind six cars? Yeah? The 693 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: bike is like always the first guy at the d 694 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I wouldn't be here talking to me. 695 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: I'd be so far down the road by now because 696 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm going out and ridden down the sidewalk past everybody 697 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 1: up and one of them and yeah Bozeman, Montana. Yeah Yeah. 698 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: I was like, your problem is you think you're in 699 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: a car, but you're so boat ramp at it. As 700 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: long as you are not slowing down somebody else's day, 701 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: it sounds to me like you made everybody's day faster. 702 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: Good jobs. Yeah, anything to say on that one. I 703 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: agree completely with what I think everyone else agrees with. Here, 704 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: let me guy for the win. I'm gonna ask you 705 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: just one Chester and you know it's a minor and 706 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: the only one that can reply. A guy's got a 707 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: big case of the ass about people that you're back 708 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: in your boat down a ramp and you leave your 709 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: headlights on, so the other dudes trying to use the 710 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: lamp ramp are blinded by your headlights. He's like, do 711 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 1: you think to turn your lights off? Um? Well, so 712 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: what do you talk Is it like a double ramp. Yeah, 713 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: it's a double ramp. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think 714 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: you could turn turn your lights off. But it is 715 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: nice to have, um, like some backup lights on so 716 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: you can actually see on the sides of the ramps. 717 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes your trailer lights aren't enough, you know what I mean. 718 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: When you flip your actual lights on, it like lights 719 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: it up a little better out there. You would have 720 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 1: never occurred to me to shut them off. I think 721 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: they're just talking about busier boat ramps than than what 722 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: I've been dealing with. I mean, when I read this one, 723 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, that that makes total sense. 724 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: That's that's great because I I've had some some issues 725 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: and non boat ramp scenarios with people leaving their high 726 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: beams on or just like those new fancy, you know, 727 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: modern headlights that people run that are seemed to be 728 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: shockingly bright. But yeah, I'm trying to remember like at 729 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: these at these tournaments when it's a double ramp if 730 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: I if I shut my lights off or not, and 731 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: I don't think I do. I mean you do it? 732 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: Are you getting in before daylight? Does up? Do other 733 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: people's lights bother you? I mean that seems like the 734 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 1: thing that you would be not noticing. I mean not 735 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 1: any more than like just driving a car down the road, 736 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: because I've backed up boats so much that it's like, 737 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I say, get over it. If 738 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: you're mad about somebody's headlights being in your eyes for 739 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: like thirty seconds, dude, maybe you're not tough enough to 740 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: back a boat down a public I mean, she's so sensitive. 741 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: I think, dude, that's that's a little too much for me. 742 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't buy it. I don't buy that one. Okay. 743 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: This one's called land borders and tree stands. This is 744 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: the like of the etiquette questions that we've gotten. I 745 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: would say, what percent have to do with something to 746 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: do with tree stands? A decent amount? Yeah, it seems 747 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: like fifty. I've hunted a certain sixty acre piece of 748 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: agriculture woods ground for whitetail deer in western New York 749 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: for five years now. It doesn't matter. I have no 750 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: that's good five years whatever. It's not like for eighteen generations. 751 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: I have sole permission from the owner. Points out that 752 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: it's his girlfriend's grandparents. I wonder if that causes him 753 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: to stay with that girlfriend. Depends how good of a 754 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: property and it's not act no, you're like, He was like, 755 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, soon I feel like breaking up 756 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: my girlfriend. And he's on the fence. How many Boone 757 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: and Crocketts are coming out of Western New York ag 758 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: Land though, like like a bunch, you know, it just 759 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 1: might be best. He's gotta work with it. Boone felt 760 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: when he went into Kentucky that first time. He's like, man, 761 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: it's good hunting, but it's pretty sketchy. I have soule 762 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 1: permission from the owner. Nobody got there, No, I got it. 763 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: It was good. Okay, okay, I have soule permission from 764 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: the owner friends grandparents, and have had to kick the 765 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: neighbors to the east of the property off as well 766 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: as asked them to remove their stands and cameras multiple times. 767 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: There's one stand in particular that I'd like your opinion on. 768 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 1: There is a cattle fence on sad to east side 769 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: of the property. That divides landownership. This tree stand is 770 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: a ladder stand, and the bottom of the ladder is 771 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: The bottom of the ladder is on their side of 772 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: the fence. But the tree they dude, I hate, the 773 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: bottom of the ladders on their side of the fence, 774 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: but the tree they use is on my side of 775 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 1: the fence. I've never asked them about moving it because 776 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they don't kill any 777 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: deer in that spot around that property in general, because 778 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: they're not good hunters. Should I be concerned that one 779 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: day they will kill a big one out of that 780 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: tree stand? So should I just ask them to move it? Now? 781 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 1: Cut the tree down with them in it too. It's 782 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: a your tree, it's your girlfriend's grandparents tree. Cut it down, 783 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: game over. Don't even have to worry about it. Cheika, 784 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: we've selected that tree for firewood. Diseased obviously. Yeah. Yeah, 785 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: there's a whole thing like we've had. There's other ones 786 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 1: that we didn't do that we just kind of skimmed by. 787 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: There is like in human psychology, I don't care how 788 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: many acres you give somebody. If there's a property boundary, 789 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: yeah there, you're gonna put a stand on that line 790 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: is always greater because you're like, they gotta have a 791 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,919 Speaker 1: lot of deer on the neighbor's place. Yeah, I'd like, Yeah, 792 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear Mark's take on this is just 793 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: prop I I hate these ones, Like I said, property 794 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: boundary tree stands, and I got my I got to 795 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: give my two cents. Yeah, my two cents is they're 796 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: they're the neighbors. You You're in the right on a 797 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: lot of it. But you got to sort of be 798 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: like how far do I really push this? Meaning if 799 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: all my ass have been reasonable and they've gone along 800 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 1: with it, do I need to now come to them 801 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: with a thing where they're gonna be like, oh what'll 802 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: what'll he? You know what I mean? Like, do you 803 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: really need to like just push it and push it 804 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: and push it to a point where you invite uh conflict? 805 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: And this guy, let's in a beautiful spot because it's 806 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: not even they're not his neighbors, so what's he care? 807 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: It's his girlfriend's grandparents neighbors. So like I guess if 808 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 1: he does force the issue, I don't know, it's weird 809 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: to me, Like if your stand is ultimately in my tree, 810 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: but I've been given permission to hunt a bunch of places. 811 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: I have never been given permission to run off the neighbors, right, 812 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, so, are you getting sole permission to hunt? 813 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: Or are you getting sole permission to hunt and manage 814 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: the land as an you know, as a legal representative 815 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: of the land. They wouldn't soule permission to hunt it 816 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: give you the right to push off people that were 817 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: illegally hunting it without permission. I would see definitely have 818 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 1: the talk with the girlfriends folks in order to yeah 819 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean I'd be like, hey, other folks 820 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: are hunting. This is that okay with you? Did somebody 821 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: given permission down the line? What's going on here? Right? Like? 822 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: But are you really gonna I mean, yeah, the neighbors, 823 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: the neighbors are in the wrong. But I think to 824 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 1: Steve's point, like, is it worth fighting this any further? 825 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 1: And what are you possibly gonna lose? Like you're possibly 826 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: going to get this? You know they can move three 827 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: feet over and yeah, right for but is it gonna 828 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 1: be worth whatever bridge you're going to further burn? Yeah, 829 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't mind our neighbors back in Wisconsin 830 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 1: hunting the property lines because our property is managed much 831 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: more for deer and everything. And if anything, it they're 832 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 1: they're not spared about getting to their stands. If anything, 833 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: what it does is help us out because it pushes 834 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: deer to the middle. It pushes deer and it keeps 835 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: them kind of in. It's almost like a fence in 836 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 1: a way. I guess here's here's a permission quick permission story. 837 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: We got permission and have had permission on a on 838 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: a little pond to duck hunt forever. Um. We went 839 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: in there to duck hunt. The actual landowner got a 840 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: call from the neighboring property accusing us of doing all 841 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: sorts of Uh. You know, everybody thinks they're the center 842 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: of the universe, right, So if you're hunting ducks on 843 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: one property, of course they're manifesting ways that what your 844 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: actions are doing are harming them in some way. Right. 845 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: So there was that call to land and he's like, 846 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't I hate dealing with those guys. They're always 847 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: rude blah blah blah blah blah, and and and he 848 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: allows them to hunt the same pond on occasion as well. 849 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: And I said, well, why don't you let us take 850 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: take care of it, you know, we can go have 851 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: that talk with him or whatever. And he's like, well, 852 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: I get to run cattle on this chunk of ground 853 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: in between my other two properties that they own, right, 854 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: And it's just kind of a thing. So i'd it's 855 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: worth it to him to put up with the weird 856 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: hunting stuff on occasion because it makes life so much 857 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: easier on the actual agriculture part of the conversation, right, 858 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 1: the neighborly agreement type of things. And so that's why 859 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: I do think of like, Okay, you got permission to hunt, 860 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,399 Speaker 1: but that's not necessarily permission to manage the property as 861 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: a whole, because there could be the neighbors could very 862 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: well be under the impression that, oh yeah, we never 863 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 1: asked for permission to hunt, but we give the parents 864 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: all these liberties on our place, and it's just kind 865 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: of a known thing, even though they've never had the conversation. Right. 866 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm like t talk with folks and 867 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: no specifically that you are able to say, hey, hunting season, 868 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: you guys can't be on here. Yeah, if this letter 869 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: had come from a grandpa saying, Hey, I'm a grandpa 870 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: and I owned some land and these neighbors got a tree, 871 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: stay in them, a tree that's different. Oh yeah, all right, lukey, 872 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,839 Speaker 1: got time for one and a half more? Oh yeah, 873 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 1: of course. My chetickot question is I live in a 874 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,360 Speaker 1: state where I can legally harvest two white tail bucks, 875 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,760 Speaker 1: one with a firearm, one with archery equipment. I wounded 876 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: and lost a buck that I am positive died during 877 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: firearm season. The reason I'm not saying anything is I'm 878 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: just wondering how positive and why he's positive? Right? Positive 879 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: because he saw it laying dead on the neighbor's place 880 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: and the neighbor wouldn't let him go get it. Or 881 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: is he just thinking because of shot. Let's assume he's 882 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: just thinking it's got to be dead, okay, right, he 883 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: hasn't seen it, but he's saying like there's no way 884 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: it lived. I then shot another buck and harvested it 885 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: during the same firearm season. There's a late archery season. 886 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: Would it be wrong to shoot another buck with my 887 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: archery tag or should I consider both of my bucks 888 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: being already tagged. A friend and I had a conversation 889 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 1: about this. He thinks I have killed my two bucks 890 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: and I should be done. But legally I can shoot 891 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: another buck. So I don't see the problem. I mean 892 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: your question, dude, that's what it is, right a little bit. 893 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean legally right, But we're talking about and I 894 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: called the legal I think I think i'd be out. 895 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: I personally, I think i'd be out. You know, best practice, 896 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: best practice ethics, highest level ethics is yeah, you're out 897 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: because the intent of the laws that you killed two deer. 898 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: But but also there might be a situation when the 899 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: year before when you passed on four bucks that everybody 900 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 1: else could have shot but you didn't, and you needed 901 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: the deer meat, and YadA, YadA. I mean, there's there's 902 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: a lot of things that might that could make you go, 903 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna follow the letter 904 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: of the law, and yeah kill. This is definitely one 905 00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:01,959 Speaker 1: of those kind of unwritten rule moral things, and it's 906 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: probably just based on the person and like how you 907 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: feel about it. You know, if you're shooting deer and 908 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,720 Speaker 1: you got your freezer's full and that stuff, yeah, probably 909 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 1: probably don't do it. Like, but if you haven't, you've 910 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: been out there trying to get some trying to get 911 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: some meat in your freezer, and you know, you've been 912 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: working your butt off, Sure, go go hunt get another deer. 913 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: Do you might have a guess what state that is? 914 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 1: Maybe Wisconsin, Missouri. I was like that, can you do? 915 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: Can you? I mean, can you take does in that state, Wisconsin, 916 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: in those particular states those states? Kid? Well, then then 917 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: the meat question is out of it, right, Yeah, you 918 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,919 Speaker 1: don't have to kill a buck, good point to get meat. 919 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 1: You know, you can just shoot a dough if you 920 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 1: really needed meat. Right, Yeah, my take on it, I 921 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,879 Speaker 1: don't see your problem with it. If all respect, like 922 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 1: all respect, if he's like, I'm sure that deer died, 923 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm done, don't feel right about it, I totally respect that. 924 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: I would never be like, that's stupid, go get another one. 925 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, that's that's big of you. That's cool. 926 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: But if you said, you know what, I didn't recover it, 927 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: I didn't tag it, I still got a tag, I'd 928 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: be like, you're absolutely right, dude, I don't have any problems. 929 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: And I think state game agencies account for a certain 930 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: amount of loss in their you know, tag allocations, so 931 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: like that're assuming a certain amount of that happening. Anyways, 932 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: And to Clay's point, I've purchased god knows how many 933 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: antler deer tags that have gone unfilled, right, I mean 934 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: over the years. And yeah, there's another wrinkle I'll add 935 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: here for this individual to consider. There's one hunt I'm 936 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm aware of and participate in. It's a big game hunt. 937 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: And if you wound an animal and they don't ask 938 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: you to determine how well or not well you wounded it, 939 00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: if you wound, you tag. So they have the ability 940 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: if they want it to be that way, right, they 941 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: have the ability to bake that into the regulations. It's 942 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: not you know, it winds up being like pretty honor system. 943 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: But it's possible for them to say, you know, if 944 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 1: you draw blood or wounded animal, tag the animal. That's it. 945 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: You're done, because it's that that's that is a thing 946 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: that happens. Last one, is this especially appropriate? Um? Everybody 947 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 1: in here, with the exception of Callahan, has kids. Um, 948 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: Luke's got one and one on the way. Chelsea's got 949 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: a brand new baby. So here it is. He says, 950 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: not sure if this qualifies as chatti kit. I think 951 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: it does, but we'll ask it anyway. As a new 952 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: dad who also loves hunting, in firearms. A few episodes back, 953 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: Steve mentioned that when his kids have friends over to 954 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: play or for a sleepover, his wife will make the 955 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: other parents aware that there are firearms in the house, 956 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: but they are locked up and inaccessible. That I wanted 957 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: that was true when we that was true in a 958 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: particular setting. We lived in Seattle for a couple of 959 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: years and firearm ownership was not assumed, and it is 960 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: a very left leaning largely, I would say, largely, like 961 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, borderline anti gun area, and my wife knew 962 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: that guns were highly politicized there. We weren't doing anything 963 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: that we wouldn't have done. She was just pointing out 964 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: they're locked in a safe and trigger locked, but they're here. 965 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: If you have a problem with that, your kids shouldn't 966 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: come over and be at the house because that's just 967 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: what's going on in our house. So heads up, we 968 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: don't do that. We don't do that where we live 969 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: now because I can't think of anyone that comes over 970 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 1: our house that doesn't. So that was a thing we did. 971 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: He says, this hadn't crossed my mind, and I haven't 972 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: had the chance to ask my parents. It's if they 973 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: did this or if anyone has said it to them 974 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: in the past. My son just turned ten months. It 975 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: hasn't had any friends sleep over yet, But I want 976 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: to know for the future if this is proper cheticit. 977 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Do people expect to be told about firearms in a home? 978 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 1: He says that we live in southeastern Pennsylvania, right on 979 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: the edge of suburban Philadelphia. I can see rural families 980 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: saying no shit, so do we. But I can also 981 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: hear some you know, timmy, like some kids mom being 982 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: appalled by the idea of guns in the house. What 983 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: do you think, man, I think it's I think I 984 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 1: get what you're saying about in Seattle area like doing 985 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: that because they could see guncase or whatever and then 986 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 1: go back and kind of go tattling or whatever however 987 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: you want to call it. But I think as parents, 988 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: if you're responsible and you have these guns locked up, 989 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: like actually locked up, I don't think I would say 990 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 1: anything one because it might create problems and the parents 991 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: might not want their kid to come over anymore or 992 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: something like that. When it's totally not necessary. They should 993 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 1: be a it will if you're gonna be against guns, 994 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, Like, I don't know, I think that if 995 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: you're responsible to have a locked up I probably wouldn't 996 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 1: say anything. Yeah. A thing I do feel absolute on 997 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 1: is if you've got kids around, your kids, other kids, whatever, 998 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: If you got kids around, you gotta have a tight 999 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 1: program when it comes to gun storage. If it's done tight. Um. 1000 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 1: That was my wife's practice. I didn't argue it with 1001 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: her too much. I let her know that I thought 1002 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 1: it was a bit much. But it's half her house, right, 1003 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: she make calls that she you know, she don't mess 1004 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: with me. I'm not gonna mess with what she decides 1005 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: to tell people. I think it's a little bit beside 1006 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: the point. If they're talked away because it's it's it's 1007 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: it's not an issue. They can't get at them right right, Yeah, 1008 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean they're in the safe especially, I mean trigger 1009 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: locks as well in the safe. I mean I personally, 1010 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, there's no point in even bringing 1011 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: it up. But I would say it's a person person 1012 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: basis of like, if you feel like you need to 1013 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: address that with somebody and that makes you feel better 1014 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: about making them feel better than do it, you know 1015 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't think there's any right or 1016 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: wrong answer, Like you know, Obviously, doing the safe thing 1017 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: is what you should be doing. So I think that's 1018 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: really what's important, Like you're saying, but how you approach 1019 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: it is really what makes you feel better. You know. 1020 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 1: I got a friend who actually had this happen, and 1021 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 1: someone said to his wife, I'm not comfortable having my 1022 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 1: kids in a house that has guns in it, which 1023 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 1: his wife replied, well, don't come over to our house. Well, 1024 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I want to know where if 1025 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: my kids are going to someone's house that doesn't have guns, 1026 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: because you're like suspicious. I'm like, you're telling me if 1027 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: somebody comes and robs your house, what my kids aren't there? 1028 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: Are there? No, I don't think that the conversation needs 1029 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: to be had if everything's locked up right. I have 1030 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: a friend who's a detective in Boise and he lives 1031 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 1: in an area where you know, I would say gun 1032 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: ownership is not assumed. But when every single kid, this 1033 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: was years ago and his kids were at younger ages, 1034 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: found out that they're going over to the house and 1035 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: the dad's a cop, every single kid had questions about guns. 1036 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: And when that would come up, he would then call 1037 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: the parents or wait until the end of the play date, 1038 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, and then talk to the parents and say, hey, 1039 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,919 Speaker 1: your child has a bunch of questions about guns. I'm 1040 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 1: a detective. If you would like and be open to it, 1041 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 1: we can go. I can show kids guns, we can 1042 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: take them shooting, I can go through all the proper 1043 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: safety things if if that's something that you would be 1044 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 1: interested in, that's big, right. But there was no assumption 1045 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 1: of like showing somebody else's child guns because just because 1046 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 1: they asked, right, yep. And I always thought that that 1047 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: was a good move. But I don't you know, It's 1048 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of things that are going on 1049 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 1: inside the Ronnella household that could be politicized in some way. Right, 1050 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: do you like what? I have no idea, right, But 1051 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: do you say, like, hey, howsoween candy. Here's a list 1052 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 1: of things that happen in our house. Just so you're aware, right, 1053 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the child's play date. I 1054 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: did one time have to go report to a neighbor 1055 01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: a conversation that I got roped into where my daughter 1056 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: and her friend asked me is right after Chester and 1057 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 1: his wife. Chester's wife had the baby and they told 1058 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 1: the whole baby story, and my daughter and her friend. 1059 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: My daughter said to me, when your water breaks, does 1060 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: it all come out of your head? Led to this 1061 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: big one conversation that I then went to the neighbor 1062 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 1: and I said, hey, real quick, so this came up 1063 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: me and you and my daughter and your daughter. This 1064 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: came up and here's where the conversation landed. Just heads 1065 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 1: up in case it comes up. And he says, that's 1066 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 1: that's great. We use real words for real things in 1067 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 1: his household. So you're okay, We've had some laughs, but 1068 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: I'll joke on aside. Man um, if you've got little 1069 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 1: kids around, uh, and you can you can know that 1070 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 1: your kids are so disciplined and would never do something 1071 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: you told him not to do, and not my kids 1072 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: are not like that to all that all that prideful 1073 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: stuff about how discipline and respectful your kids are. If 1074 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: you've got young kids running around, you have to have 1075 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 1: a storage plan for firearms. You just do. I have. 1076 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm one of the proudest dads out there that I know, 1077 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: but I know oftentimes we have our kids will do 1078 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,919 Speaker 1: a thing they're not supposed to do, and any parent 1079 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 1: that's acting like that's not a thing is lying to themselves, 1080 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: and I don't know that they have the ability too 1081 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: if they're gonna now and then disobey as they test 1082 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: boundaries that they I can't guarantee you that they wouldn't 1083 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 1: choose to test the boundary around a gun that was 1084 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 1: carelessly left out land. You gotta have a program, Luke, 1085 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: thanks for joining man of course, thanks for having me, 1086 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:58,919 Speaker 1: guys brought to you and get by Columbia PFG. Luke 1087 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: wears it on the stage. You wears it on the water. 1088 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 1: He's wearing it on his damn hat right now. I 1089 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 1: am I am Luke. Good luck with the with the 1090 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 1: album out and um, I'm sure people can watch for 1091 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,919 Speaker 1: I know that I got some friends that are holding 1092 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 1: some tickets for one of your shows right now, and 1093 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 1: they're real excited about They actually sent me a picture 1094 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, we're excited. Man. It's been been a 1095 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 1: lot of fun, all right. We good luck man. Thanks 1096 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: to everybody else, thanks for sending a man. Keep the 1097 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 1: chattict questions coming and we will keep getting to them 1098 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 1: um as we can. We got I think like fifty 1099 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 1: one pages of them left for next time. Thanks everybody. 1100 01:07:45,080 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Seeal gra shine like seing the sun all right, I sweetheart, 1101 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 1: we're done beat this damn horse to death, to take 1102 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 1: it to new one and ride a We're done beat 1103 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 1: this damn horse today, So take your new one and 1104 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 1: ride on.