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Speaker 1: This is our lives, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. Somehow we were off for like

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Speaker 2: an unintentional week, but here we are. We're back. It's

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Speaker 2: the first of June. We're in the sixth month of

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Speaker 2: the year. This year is flying by. Hello everyone, welcome

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Speaker 2: to this Wednesday edition of A Live Morning Combat. My

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Speaker 2: name is Luke Thomas. I am nearly one half of

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Speaker 2: your hosting duo. I join you from the capital of

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Speaker 2: estatos Anitos, right here in Washington, d C. Joined by

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Speaker 2: the Browning Viceroy of Connecticut, the King of Ryder Lawnmowers,

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Speaker 2: my friend and yours Brian Campbell. Hello, Brian Campbell, how

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Speaker 2: are you, yes, sir?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm decently ten for a pale bastard because

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Speaker 3: But beyond that, Luke, uh, what a time to be alive.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy we got a we got a family lake

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Speaker 2: Luke.

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Speaker 3: So I was swimming yesterday on the day off.

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Speaker 2: I mean not bad, right, Wait, right, so what is

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Speaker 2: the what is the lake membership buy you exactly obviously

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Speaker 3: You have access to water sports, you can bring your

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Speaker 3: you know, not bad for for for a factory town reject, right, not.

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Speaker 2: Bad for a factory town reject at all. All Right,

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Speaker 2: So we have a lot to get to today. It's

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Speaker 2: there are some fights this weekend. We're gonna begin to

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. Thanks to everyone who watched the instant

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Speaker 2: If you like it, you can keep it. If not,

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Speaker 2: you can bounce BC. I see we're both wearing merch.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing Factory Town merch. You're wearing the co host merch.

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Speaker 2: But where can they get that merch? PC?

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Speaker 3: nothing new to report on this moment, but RJ's always

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Speaker 3: cooking in the kitchen. Luke. We have the finest quality

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Speaker 3: But you know, Risen, notwithstanding Hasselhoff explosion, notwithstanding have we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, you know, did Kamorrow need to

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agreed, all right, Which takes us, by the

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Speaker 3: When you look at it, Luke, I mean, if Nate

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Speaker 2: Do I think Connor versus Jorge, if promoted correctly by

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Speaker 3: There's not an easy fight for Connor. But of the

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Speaker 3: but how about this, Luke, do you know who won't

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Speaker 3: stop staying in ridiculously ripshape and showing up on Instagram

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Speaker 3: Though, Well, we'll revisit that topic on our Patriot Show later, Luke.

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Speaker 3: But look, you're gonna you're gonna hate this. This is

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Speaker 2: GSP would probably still whip his ass, right.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he wouldn't. But because of the age

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Speaker 3: he probably will. He'll probably take him down at will.

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Speaker 3: But Luke, you're talking about a break glass to try

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you man that a you know, Ball's Bonanza,

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Speaker 3: that shit sells Luke, that shit would sell more than

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Speaker 2: wanted Habib, this seems like a weird fight to come

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00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 2: back to. It's like the guy's been off for a

429
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,679
Speaker 2: long time because he had a terrible, terrible injury and

430
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 2: then before that hasn't looked great. Uh, you're gonna come

431
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 2: back to Granted A'm much older, but still like I've

432
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: been seeing him train with like the Danahers squad, Like, dude,

433
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 2: JSP is, as you know, still in tremendous physical condition.

434
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Speaker 3: What do you think he's training for to be? To

435
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 3: be fair, we know he got shot down on that

436
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: De la Joya boxing attempt, and what is he still

437
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 3: a year out from his UFC deal expiring? You know,

438
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 3: in that draconian sort of I don't understand how this

439
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 3: is legal sort of way. Yeah, what the hell's g

440
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 3: I mean, is it gonna make a karate combat appearance?

441
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 3: What the hell's gonna happen with GESPA?

442
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, karate combat, it's the thing. It's like, Oh, I

443
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 2: won't say. But either way with GSP, I think partly

444
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 2: maybe to stay in shape because a he just likes training.

445
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean I'm serious about that, not the kind of

446
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 2: crazy fight shape that we sometimes see, but you know,

447
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 2: the the guy loves the lifestyle that came with being

448
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: an MM fighter in general. So there's partly that. Also,

449
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 2: I think, like with Hollywood, you know, having a really

450
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: good you know, being in shape, being good physical condition,

451
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 2: which he doesn't have to train like MMA for to

452
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: get but you know, it's obviously a great way to

453
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 2: get there. And then I think I do think he

454
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 2: has designs on one more combat sports experience beyond just

455
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 2: like going into doing maybe doing like a minimum what

456
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: the equivalent of Who's number one, like you know, a

457
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 2: pro grappling match. I still think he has a site

458
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 2: set on another MMA fight or another or a boxing fight.

459
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Speaker 2: And then also Hollywood, I think between those two competing interests,

460
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: it's keeping him in the gym quite candidly. Yes, I

461
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: believe that.

462
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: Thank you for being Candida. I appreciate that.

463
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 2: There we go. But the one I'm trying to make

464
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Speaker 2: here is I don't know where Connor's going to go

465
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 2: with this, but it is interesting to me that Jorge

466
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: is now sort of like actively petitioning for a B

467
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: side role, right, I mean it sort of tells you

468
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: about his stock Now. His stock is still extremely high

469
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: relative to the rest of the UFC population, but relative

470
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: to what it was where then he was fielding the

471
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: incoming traffic about what to do. Now he's positioning himself

472
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: as the incoming traffic for fighters of higher status. Grant

473
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: is only not many who are going to be that one,

474
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: but certainly in this case it would be true. And

475
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 2: I do think it's an acknowledgement of his advancing age, obviously,

476
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: and then the it's an internal acknowledgement about his still

477
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: elevated but relatively declined place in the power rankings. Is

478
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Speaker 2: that a fair assessment to you?

479
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: I think that's a fair assessment as well. And look,

480
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 3: you know, my pay per view marketing brain just came

481
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: up with another idea for a pay per view doubleheader.

482
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: I would just want I just want to get one

483
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 3: word response from you to this. Okay, your co main event,

484
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 3: Dustin Pourier versus Nate Diaz, your main event Conor McGregor

485
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: versus Nick Dass sloppy as shit, Luke. But you know

486
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: the idea is that you know, the winners face off

487
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 3: against each other in the next pay per view, You in,

488
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: Luke in on that.

489
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Speaker 2: Gosh, I don't even know how that. I haven't even

490
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: thought about much of Nick Diaz versus Connor. I'd have

491
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: to think about that for a second. That also feels

492
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: like a boy only the brain of Brian. They really

493
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: should hire you, but not really at UFC. They should

494
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: hire you at like Yama Pit or KSW or something.

495
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: By the way, we didn't even talk about it. We

496
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 2: didn't even put it on the rundown. Did you see

497
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: Marius Pujanowski win a KSW over the weekend with that uppercut?

498
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: Not only did I see it, Luke, You're gonna see

499
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: it later on. Have you seen this shit?

500
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: So? Can I make one point about that in a

501
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: serious manner, just for one second.

502
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: If you're gonna try to match him with fad Or,

503
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: is that really where you're going?

504
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: No, But dude, your brain is on fire today. Like, yo,

505
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 2: what are some fucking disgusting car crashes we can put together? Uh?

506
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: In all seriousness, I want folks to think about this

507
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: for a second. Now. He did not have like a

508
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: super decorated MMA career, but he got pretty good at it.

509
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: Like that that uppercut he landed was a fake from

510
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 2: an overhand right then he went to the uppercut. The

511
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: guy didn't see it coming. He put his lights out.

512
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 2: He's done pretty well in MMA, all things considered. Now,

513
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: I don't know his current let's say, vitamin REGIMENBC, but

514
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: certainly to compete in World's Strongest Man, and he had

515
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 2: his issues by the way there, you know, you have

516
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: to take drugs to compete in World Strongest Man at

517
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: the heavyweight level. There's just no other way. It's not

518
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: it's literally not even humanly possible to compete with them

519
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: without it. And certainly you look at his physique these days,

520
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: he is almost certainly using Here's the point I would

521
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: like to make a I don't see any fans in

522
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: any kind of uproar about what kind of horrible example

523
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: he is with the sport. They're total hypocrites when they

524
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: talk about drugs and sport. But more to the point, BC,

525
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: when people say there's no room for drugs in sport, motherfuckers.

526
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: Marius Poujinowski has had an entire career on the back

527
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Speaker 2: of drugs into sports, one of which he's an all

528
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: time great, and the other one he is actually pretty

529
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 2: good in. He has had a career off of drugs.

530
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's won five in a row in the last

531
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Speaker 3: few years, all by knockout. But Luke, it's funny you

532
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: would bring up Poosia because one of his former opponents

533
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: made headline this morning and I didn't want to bring

534
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 3: it up because it's gross. But we are doing a

535
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: segment called Durable MMA head Watch to lead out of

536
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: our show. So former MMA and boxing star Eric Butterbean

537
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 3: esh at fifty five, is back in good shape and

538
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: has called out Jake Paul to box.

539
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: Luki, do you care, lucok No, what dude old Butterbean was?

540
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: What did they call him King of the four rounders?

541
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Speaker 2: Is that what they called him?

542
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: Yes, they did, dude, Old Butterbean.

543
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you know. Obviously he wasn't built

544
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: for greatness, but if you were in any way a

545
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: little bit washed. He would send you to the land

546
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: of wind and ghosts with a quickness, would he not?

547
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: Well, do you happen to remember? I know you didn't

548
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: care much, but do you remember around like WrestleMania fourteen

549
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: or fifteen in the late nineties, they did that Brawl

550
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 3: for All tournament which was like not unscripted, It was

551
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 3: like a boxing slash wrestling MMA hybrid vague and they

552
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 3: got all their journeyman wrestlers guys together, so the winner

553
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: got to box Butterbean for real at WrestleMania, and the

554
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: winner was this guy named Bart Gunn Luke. Please watch

555
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: that highlight after the show's over. Like vincwick Man a

556
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: company almost sanctioned a killing in the middle of their

557
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: fake wrestling ring because he sent that man to hell.

558
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: Up.

559
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god. It was the most. It was the most.

560
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: It's probably the second most vicious knockout punch of all time,

561
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: with the first being that one that uh a wolf

562
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: the female boxer did to that tall white chick. You

563
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. You haven't seen that one.

564
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: Google that one as well, but uh yeah, I mean, look,

565
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: you know, Butterbean versus Jake Paul.

566
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Speaker 2: Paul versus Butterbean. I gotta tell you, I'm kind of

567
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 2: into it. I'm kind of into it.

568
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: We always say pick on somebody your own size. There

569
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: you go, all right, dude, that is.

570
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: Such a great idea. Butterbean he used to fuck people

571
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: up back. He fought in Prodde a couple of times

572
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: as well. The Japanese didn't really know what.

573
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: To do, but he fought the Yama pit bro.

574
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah he did, dude. I'll tell you, he could punch

575
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: his ass off. They have nothing else he could punch

576
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: and take a punch. That was about it. But all right, his.

577
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: CT is like at at fifty five.

578
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: Luke, who cares? What is he doing making grills? And

579
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: is he he's like a low budget George Foreman where

580
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: he's probably got, you know, in the in the Southwest,

581
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 2: some kind of you know, outdoors fucking whatever sponsor that

582
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: he does for either grilling or barbecue sauce or whatever

583
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: the fuck. God bless him. I hope he's making a

584
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: bunch of money. That dude provided a lot of entertainment.

585
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: And it was always like, yo, could your fat uncle

586
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: beat Butterbean? And it was like, no, dude, Butterbean would

587
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: send your fucking fat uncle to the to the hospital.

588
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: Like for a big old fat dude. He could he

589
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: could fight a little bit. He was pretty good.

590
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: You remember when Larry Holmes came out of retirement at

591
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: like fifty to outbox Butterbean.

592
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: That was interesting match. Is that did that happen?

593
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? It did?

594
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: It did? Who won?

595
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 3: Larry Holmes by decision? Yeah? Hell?

596
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: Wait? How many rounds do you remember that?

597
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: I think it was eight or ten?

598
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, you can't ask Butterbean to go past four

599
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 2: or five. I mean that's all he's got, you know,

600
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: he's Vince Wilfork. It's like, you know, I got a

601
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: little bit forty won the defense or whatever has to play,

602
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: but or offense anyway, But all right, any other terrible

603
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: headlines then yeah, I got one more. Let's go through

604
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: this stupid Do we even want to talk about this?

605
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: TJ at Delashaw versus Dominic Cruz stupid story?

606
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: Do you care?

607
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: I don't really care.

608
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: Yeah I care a little because you know, I'm a

609
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: kill a Shaw super fan, So I care. All right?

610
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: So TJ Dela Shaw. I think it was on Shot

611
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: Store Boys. I think it was on Submission Radio. He

612
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: did this interview and in it he talks about Dominic

613
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: Cruz and no, Dominic Cruz had said some things about him,

614
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: either negatively or perhaps in other ways, you know, dismissively.

615
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: And here's what Cruz's comments were. Quote this is from

616
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: a different show, but this is what Cruz had said.

617
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: He was suspended for cheating, so to get a title

618
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: shot after one win, okay, cool, Cruse said, sounds like

619
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: a hookup to me. He got two years off, didn't

620
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: really lose any money, and then just gets right back

621
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: in the title picture. Yeah, that's exactly how it should be.

622
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: He served a sentence he'd beat a top contender. Problem solved.

623
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: But okay, Dela Shaw responds, quote, he sounds like a

624
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: salty kunt. To be honest, I think he's just obviously

625
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: jealous of me being able to stay in the top

626
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: with my layoff and how long I've been in the sport.

627
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: We got to interview Butterbeant. Now that you brought it up,

628
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: I really want to talk to Butterbean.

629
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: Can we get him on the couch? He may he

630
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: may sink in and not come back.

631
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Luke, That's fine, as we have an in house guy.

632
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: We can just make Butterbean could just whip his ass.

633
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: How long I've been in the sport and me still

634
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: being able to come back and prove that I'm still

635
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: the best. I did lose money. Me not fighting for

636
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: two years while being a champion is losing out in

637
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: a lot of money from my pocket if I keep

638
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: racking up the winds getting tel defenses. I mean we're

639
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: talking about millions and millions of dollars I let slip

640
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: through my fingers because I made a fucking stupid mistake.

641
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I paid my time. I came back and

642
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: fucking grinded to get the win on fucking one leg

643
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: and one eye, and there's nothing you can do to

644
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: deny me. That's my that's it. It's my title shot. So,

645
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: like I said, he's just being salty, and that's kind

646
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: of his personality anyways. He's an unlikable dude. I've always

647
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: respected him and I think he's got a good eye

648
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: for stuff, but he's got like this chip on his

649
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: shoulder where he feels everything's owed to him and he's

650
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: just always complaining about shit. Bece your reaction.

651
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: I would guess this is Dominant Cruz trying to be

652
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: savvy and getting a big money rematch here because we

653
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: know that, uh, it'll still a little bit of a

654
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: bottle that could this title picture, Luke al Joe breakthrough win?

655
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: Is whodo gonna come back? Is? Is it gonna be

656
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: Dila Shaw versus Jose Aldo? Next? Is one of them

657
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: gonna get the title shot and the other one's gonna

658
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: be the next one? Looking out? Either way, this could

659
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: be a good opening. And obviously these two have history

660
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: having had that title fight, the split decision over five

661
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: runs in Boston a few years back, and Luke, if

662
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: you can recall, and I know you can, I think

663
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: they kind of I wouldn't say robbed, but I think

664
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: they got the score wrong in that one, giving Cruz

665
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: the comeback win, which was a, you know, a very

666
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: inspirational and feel good win. But what I always, you know,

667
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: had issue with was making till Dela Shaw go the

668
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: two year route to get back into title contention to

669
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: get another shot to regain his crown, and he did.

670
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: In more power to him. If he's not gonna get

671
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: the next title shot upon comeback of injury, and if

672
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: he's not gonna get some bigger fight in terms of

673
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: the thought of mental competition here, if I'm if I'm

674
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: match making my head him versus all those a better fight.

675
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: But Dominica Chris got a lot left in the tank. Luke.

676
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: You know I could get talked into watching them do

677
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: the footwork dance for three to five rounds. I'm kind

678
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: of into it if we've got nowhere else to go.

679
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: So if this is dom Cruse being smarter than us, right,

680
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: he came out, called out, DC, got him to watch

681
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: more tape, came out, called out Keith Peterson, got him

682
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: to stop smelling like hoochin hookers. I think he's smarter

683
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: than us, Luke, So I think dom Cruz is onto

684
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: something here.

685
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who has interest in seeing t J Delashaw

686
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: dom Cruz two.

687
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: Me if he can't get Al Joe or or Aldo

688
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: Aldo Aldo, Aldo, Al Joe or Aldo you think?

689
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I agree with you that the first fight, I

690
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: think I did score it for Cruise, but I recognized

691
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: it was Rais or Thin easily could have gone the

692
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: other way. No issue there, Fine, dude, that was a

693
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: while ago. That is not at all relevant. And the

694
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: fact that he got to win over san Haagen the

695
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: way he did, like gutted it out through injury, multiple

696
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: forms of injury tells me they're in very different places

697
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: in their career. Although I admit, obviously who has maintained

698
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: a level of success that is certainly admirable at a

699
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: different level. I don't know how competitive the rematch would be.

700
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: You think you think it's competitive.

701
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: I well, no, Look at this point, I if it

702
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: was thought of to be kind of a pick on

703
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: coming into the first one, although I don't want to

704
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: say kind of because there was still some doubt Cruise

705
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: coming back after that long laugh and all that. But no,

706
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: you'd favor TJ. Dillashaw. He seems to be in the

707
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: better form, but he's also luke coming off of injury,

708
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: not young, had the you know, like had the all

709
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: the things that Dom is talking about. I think it's

710
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: a it's a very nice, competitive old guy fight with

711
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: a good backstory. Again, if TJ can't cash in on

712
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: bigger opportunities.

713
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: I think if TJ loses against a bigger opportunity, you

714
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: could and run that one back. Because you're right, what

715
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: is what is TJ? Thirty five? I mean you're right,

716
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: he's he's getting up there. Thirty five is an old

717
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: place to be at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

718
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: So you're right that the clock is ticking, and if

719
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: he can't really maximize it, then fine, I'd be happy.

720
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: But but if there is some kind of a big

721
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: fight out there that they are able to make, and

722
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: of course I do think he has earned it. He

723
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: did his time, he served it. Like this is the

724
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: one thing that always bothers me about these like ped suspensions.

725
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, that's the punishment. The punishment is not oh,

726
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: it's a year or two off and then now you

727
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: have to then go to the back of the line.

728
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: Deal with all other forms of ridicule. You have to

729
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: wait much longer than everyone else. Like the punishment was

730
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 2: the two years. Once that is served, you're done. You

731
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: can go back to what you were. And I'll remind everyone, Yes,

732
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: he lost to Henry Suhudo at one twenty five, but

733
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: no one ever took the one thirty five pound built

734
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: from him. They put him back in a number one

735
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: contend toish fight against sand Haagen and he won it,

736
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: and he won it pretty cleanly actually in the end ultimately.

737
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: So so my point being is is this idea that like, oh,

738
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: he served his time and it's all over back there.

739
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: This is unfair. It's the definition of fair. He waited

740
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: his time, he won a fight. That's that's exactly how

741
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: the system is supposed to work, at least in theory.

742
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: I believe so. So we'll put that out all right. See,

743
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: let's talk tober topic number two here. We do have

744
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: the UFC back in action this weekend. It's hilarious. Half

745
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: of the questions I ever get in my email in

746
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: my live chat is why are these cards so watered down?

747
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: And then on Saturday, no UFC was trending on Twitter.

748
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: It's like, y'all got to make up your minds about

749
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: what you want. But okay, they're back this weekend. UFC

750
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: Fight Night, Volkov versus Rosenstrike. I don't know how to

751
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: pronounce his last name, so I'm gonna say Rosenstrike. That

752
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: is your main event. It's a heavyweight main event BC.

753
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: There was a really interesting tweet from Richard Mann that

754
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: as that tweet, there was a piece in his article

755
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: that he wrote that I shared with everyone. Here's how

756
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: it looks. This is what he wrote. It was a

757
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: very very clear assessment of what makes rosen Strike successful

758
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: versus not. This is what he writes quote. During his

759
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: UFC run, rosenstrike has excelled when given the time and

760
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: space to land his power shots. He lands one point

761
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: zero five knockdowns per fifteen minutes of fight time, which

762
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: is twentieth best among all ranked fighters. He has landed

763
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: a knockdown in all six of his victories and failed

764
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: to land a knockdown in all three of his losses.

765
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 2: He is also undefeated at four and zero in bouts

766
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: where he has not allowed an opponent any control time,

767
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 2: while he is only two and three when an opponent

768
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: registered any control time. Not a lot of mystery about

769
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: how to beat this guy, is it?

770
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: No, there's not, And look, this is a top ten matchup.

771
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: It's good. Both kind of need a big win here

772
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: to either stay in or advance further into the title picture. Luke,

773
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm still a little bit surprised at the I'm still

774
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 3: a lot of bit surprised, to be fair, at the

775
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: ease in which Volkov lost to Aspenhall. So when I

776
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: look at Volkov versus Rosenstrut, given the history of how

777
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: both have fared when they did step up against the

778
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: highest level, you know, I certainly like Volkov's game a

779
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: lot more his consistency, his plus side. But Luke I

780
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 3: was wrong, not just that Aspinall would win that fight,

781
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 3: but that he would he would smoke him. I mean, Luke,

782
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: you're UK boy as, but I'll fucking smoke my guy.

783
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: You did, so, you know, I think that does add

784
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: a little more intrigue to me to see, you know,

785
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: who is Rosenstruck. Is he gonna end up being a

786
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: guy who's raw and powerful and can look great against

787
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: the aging names but can't be the contemporaries. Well, I

788
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: think this is that opportunity for him to arguably, you know,

789
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: short of stopping Overeim, although you know last chapter overhim

790
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: could be a little hit or missing that run. Short

791
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: of that, this this would be the biggest win in

792
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: Rosenstrokes rise, and I think one that he would badly need.

793
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: But x'es and O's head to head, I wouldn't favor

794
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: him in this one. Look, I'm interested to see where

795
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: the odds are at.

796
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: I have not looked up the odds, but I think

797
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: it's worth reminding ourselves about Volkov's capability here. Now, I

798
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: don't think in that in terms of the control time

799
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: conversation doesn't seem likely BC. I think you would agree,

800
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: because he's got a height and reach advantage. He's gonna

801
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time looking for takedowns or maybe

802
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: even the clinch. I tend to think he's gonna want

803
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: to strike at distance, but even at striking a distance,

804
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: turns out the numbers heavily fail. Alexander Volkov. I mean,

805
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: listen to his This is his only UFC losses, right,

806
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: These are just the losses Derek Lewis, which you know

807
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: is an amazing win for Derek, but he was losing

808
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: that fights. It's literally, statistically the greatest UFC comeback in history. Okay,

809
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: so there's that two Curtis Blades, which Curtis won that fairly,

810
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: but you know he struggled towards the end of that

811
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: fight with all the wrestling and whatnot, and Volkov made

812
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: it difficult for him. Cyril gone, okay, Cyrial beat him

813
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: fair and square whatever, and then Tom aspinall more recently.

814
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: Those are his only four losses. In three of those cases,

815
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: you have people who have a claim to have been

816
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: or will be anyway number one contenders. That Derek Lewis fight.

817
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: Not gonna call it fluky, but you know, probably most

818
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: times if they fought, you would favor Volkov to win.

819
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 2: And then in between the NBC he beat overreim Verdome Struve,

820
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: and ty Borah among others. Dude, that's a very very

821
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: competitive heavyweight. That's a very very good heavyweight. The only

822
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: guys who have beaten him are the ones who are

823
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: really ascended to the very very top of that division.

824
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: If you're not that guy, you're probably not going to

825
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: beat him. So this is a real clear question about

826
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: for Rosenstrouk or rosenstrike again, however it's probably pronounced. This

827
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: is a real quote clear question for him about which

828
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: guy are you. Are you a guy that we can

829
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: actually point to as saying you're a potential title threat,

830
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: or he's almost Volkov BC, He's almost something like the

831
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: heavyweight RDA very different fighters, but in terms of what

832
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: a win over him means, right, that's sort of what

833
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: it means here. You beat Volkov, you're off to the races.

834
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: If not, you know, you're gonna just you can beat

835
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: other good fighters, but you're never gonna get to the

836
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: top of that division.

837
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought heading into that aspenhav fight that Volkov

838
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: was the worst of the elite heavyweights in the game.

839
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: You know, maybe Aspinal took his spot and now we're

840
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: down here. But I think when you look at this matchup,

841
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: what you have to like about it are the close odds.

842
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: I looked him up plus one thirty five Rosenstroke the

843
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: slight underdog minus one sixty Volkov. But this to me,

844
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 3: you know, gives you the opportunity where the loser is

845
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: gonna prove that he's the league keeper of the division

846
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: and the winner's gonna have that chance to crack that

847
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: upper upper core of title contending heavyweight. So good matchup, Luke.

848
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: I am interested to see. Can Rosenstroik give us a

849
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 3: different gear because if you if you strike from distance

850
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: against Volkoff, you're gonna have issues. I don't think Volkov

851
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: is gonna, you know, it has a suspect chin or anything.

852
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: Although Rosenstrick certainly hits hard. But we're gonna have to

853
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 3: see an aggressive, you know, multi talented Rosenstrict here. He's

854
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: gont have to show us some different things, Luke, because

855
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: if you just follow Volkoff around, you know, Asperinal took

856
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: him down and subbed him like that. I don't think

857
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: that's in rosensticks gam No.

858
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: I would agree with you. There also your co main

859
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: event BC probably a better fight than the main event,

860
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. At one, dan Egay is

861
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: back taking on movsarv low ever ev Loov. I'm not

862
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: sure he probably pronounced his last name either. Now, Dan

863
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Egabc is a guy who has clearly come a long

864
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: way in his career, but he's lost three of his

865
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: last four. Now the caveat to that is here are

866
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: the three guys he has lost to. By the way,

867
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: he in a row beat Mike Santiago, Jordan Griffin, Danny Henry,

868
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: Kevin Agilar, mirsad Bektitch and Edson Barboza fantastic run. Then

869
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: subsequent to all that he lost three of his last four.

870
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: He lost to Calvin Cator, then he beat Gavin Tucker,

871
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: stopped Gavin Tucker by the way in round one in

872
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: twenty two seconds, and then he lost a chance Sung

873
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: Jung via decision and josh Emmett via decision. So it's

874
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: not like he's getting super blown out BC, but he

875
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 2: has been against the very top of the guys. SIMI

876
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: the kind of situation we're talking about with the main event,

877
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: just coming up short against the top ranked title contenders,

878
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: number one, number two contender guys ev loev is undefeated.

879
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: How do you size this one up? What do you

880
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: really see as possible in either case?

881
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like this fight a lot for everything you

882
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: just laid out there where I Gay, you know, was

883
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: one of those I don't want to call him a

884
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 3: star of the pandemic because we knew about him before there.

885
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: He didn't come on the scene like a Hamzad or

886
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: you know, Billy Q like you know, shout out to

887
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: everyone that used Kevin holland everyone that used that weird

888
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: twenty twenty to sort of make their name. Well. Egay

889
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 3: also rose during that time, but you mentioned it, Luke,

890
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: when he steps up, he's had an issue and even

891
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: though he had that nice win streak, including the win

892
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 3: over Barbosa, those last two wins were by split decision. Luke,

893
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: I've been hard on Ega, even though like I love

894
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: his style, he's hungry, he's a great interview. Like, I

895
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: love a lot about Ega. But the reason why I'm

896
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: hard on them, Luke is he fights a very aggressive

897
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: puncher's style, and I don't think he's a puncher on

898
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: this level, so that can you know, that's the kind

899
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: of style where against more evenly matched competition, he can

900
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: stop some of these guys. He can overcome some of

901
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: these guys. He's got a motor. He puts himself in

902
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: harm's way, he goes after it. But against the elite,

903
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: when you don't have that same finishing power, it can

904
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: get you into trouble. I don't know a ton about

905
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: his opponent in this case, and certainly through your various

906
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: trials of trying to pronounce names, we should probably consider

907
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: hiring John Annick just to get a lot of these

908
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 3: names right in real time. But Luke, when you look

909
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: at movsar ev Loev, which you know that was either

910
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: Sharde or depending on how much I nailed that, he

911
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: is unbeating Luke in the UFC and is fifteen to

912
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: zero overall and has had a good run of beating

913
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: at least names you've heard of to get to this point.

914
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: This is his opportunity to really start to get himself noticed.

915
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: And it's not like he's gonna roll over for him.

916
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: But Luke, I've always questioned Egay's ubl if you will,

917
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 3: if we can put that on a t shirt over

918
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: a navel upper USAMA bin laden upper bound limits. Luke,

919
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: I do think he's closer to the ceiling of his

920
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: UBL and we've seen him sort of, you know, max out.

921
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: This is his chance to prove me wrong. But Luke,

922
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: if if that other guy is coming on, this is

923
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: gonna be a good matchup, This is gonna be a

924
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 3: very very good matchup. Can you tell me anything about

925
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 3: that other guy's game, Luke, He.

926
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: Is very well, he is very well rounded. He can

927
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: he can really wrestle quite well. He's solid everywhere. I

928
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't say he's like a Habib or Islam type where

929
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: they can do it all, but then they clearly have

930
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: one part of their game that is just sort of

931
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: this dominant, unstoppable for see. Although he is quite good

932
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: at wrestling and ground up, pound and control, but he's

933
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: also very good at measuring and having a very you know,

934
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: careful striking affair. He can he can do basically everything,

935
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't call him an ace with any one

936
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: particular style. I mean, consider these are his UFC wins.

937
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: BC Sung wu CHOI was his UFC debut he wanted

938
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: via decision Enrique Barzola. He won it via decision. Mike

939
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: Grundy he wanted via decision, Nick Lentz tough fight, split

940
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: decision win but nearly you know, got very close. And

941
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: then Hakim Duadu he won via decision as well. This

942
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: guy can do a lot, He can beat good fighters,

943
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: but as you see, against the UFC level, he has

944
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: not been able to score a finish yet, and Danny

945
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: Gay is very, very tough to finish. I actually feel

946
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: like this is the toughest fight by far of Ev

947
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: Looev's UFC career. Danny Gay has fought much better guys

948
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: than him, not beaten them per se. But I do

949
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: think this is a very very winnable fight for Dan Egay,

950
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: provided of course that you know, he's obviously in the

951
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: right space and has the right game plan going into it.

952
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: When Eric nickxick he probably will and should so to me,

953
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: this is a this is a coin flip because Egay

954
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: probably doesn't well. I don't know what EGA's true upside is,

955
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: but Ega has not has not been able to advance

956
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: past a certain level yet. But I think if you

957
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: can beat a guy like this, even though he also

958
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: hasn't advanced past that, this other guy is careful enough

959
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: and can manage enough variables in a fight I think

960
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: to get pretty far. I think Egay has a little

961
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: bit more firepower, a little bit more dog in him.

962
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: He's gonna need to make the fight on those terms

963
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 2: in order to worry.

964
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: He's got the dog. I do question his firepower at times.

965
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: But Luke, he stopped Gavin Tucker in the first round.

966
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think Kevin Tucker is a super elito, no,

967
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: no disrespect, but I will tell you as we look

968
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: at the odds, Luke, though Vegas does not agree with

969
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: you on the idea of it being virtually a pick them.

970
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 3: They've got a minus four hundred ev lowev betting favorite

971
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: at the mom so I.

972
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: Can understand that because Egay's wrestling has been a little

973
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: bit of trouble spot for him. But I do think

974
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: it's steadily improved. I think it's listen. I think it's

975
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: probably fine to favor the Russian here. It's probably fine.

976
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 2: I would say that minus four hundred is a bit strong.

977
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: I think that Egay's upset potential relative to that is

978
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: higher than what the odds UH make it out to be.

979
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: I'll put it down.

980
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: Can I create a new segment here that sometimes I do,

981
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: but I'd like to make it a consistent one where

982
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 3: I look at each card and give you the BC

983
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: stamp of approval on the Super Sloppy Special, the Triple

984
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: s Luke. Yes, there is a no no, no Super Sloppy.

985
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: I know, I know what you're about to say. I know, Jose,

986
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: I know what you're a gross is about to say.

987
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what the Let me tell you

988
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: what the BC special is. This is the Brian Campbell

989
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Windows in our Chrome Incognito Special. Felice Harrick versus Carolina Kobolkeevitch.

990
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: Did I nail it or did it the rematch?

991
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: Yes, so, Luke. At its core, there's a lot of

992
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: reasons why I love this fight. Okay, Number one, it's

993
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: it's it's it's the it's likely to say goodbye to

994
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: one or both of them from that original strawweight class

995
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: of one pin fifteen right the tough season, the original

996
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: strawweight title contenders which cobl Kvis became one, although Falise

997
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: Harog never quite got there, but she's been around forever, Luke.

998
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: They fought in twenty eighteen. Carolina got a split decision.

999
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: But here's the circumstances entering this. Carolina thirty seven on

1000
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: a five fight losing streak, Harrig thirty six, or I'm sorry,

1001
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 3: Herog thirty seven, Carolina thirty six, but Harrog on a

1002
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 3: three fight losing streak, including that loss to Carolina. Luke.

1003
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: If you've never seen a WW style loser leaves town match,

1004
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: you got one right here. I got a lot of

1005
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: respect for both of these fighters. They've They've given a

1006
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: lot to the game, but both are in the in

1007
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: the end of that twilight. I'm gonna be tuned in

1008
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: in ready, Luke. But I got doubts for both of them.

1009
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: But I don't know if you follow Felice on Instagram, Luke,

1010
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: but she's in insane shape for this one, so it's her.

1011
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: What fight was she last in Brooklyn for? It was this,

1012
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: you know what? I think? It was the same day

1013
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: that Connor chuck the Dolly at the bus. Yes, I

1014
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: did the media day for that, and I remember seeing

1015
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: her in person and I was blown.

1016
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: That was the Carolina fight. That was the first.

1017
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: One, Yes, yeah, And she was in bonker shape for

1018
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: that too.

1019
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: And that was the first of her three consecutive defeats

1020
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: that that that sort of created this slide, and look,

1021
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: you know they're they're they're lovable fan favorites. They they're there,

1022
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 3: they fight hard, They've been great ambassadors for the sport

1023
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: in this division. By the way, Luke, that that Carolina

1024
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: fight snapped a three fight I'm sorry, four fight win

1025
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: streak for Harrig and it's been downhill since. So yeah, Luca,

1026
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 3: you know we're gonna say goodbye to one, maybe both,

1027
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 3: but you know, I love them. It's it's it's hard

1028
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: to see. It's hard to see our heroes go away, Luke,

1029
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: but you know they're gonna get Maybe maybe I've romanticized

1030
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: that a little bit too much, but uh but uh,

1031
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: you know, I'll be ready for it. It'll be sloppy.

1032
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: But dude, did you no no disrespect here, But when

1033
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: Carolina fell off, it was like, uh, it was like

1034
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: you know, Baron Barrow levels of falling off. It was

1035
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: it was over, and it was over, Luke, and it

1036
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: was over.

1037
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes when it goes, it goes. I don't know

1038
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: how to say it. Also in his card BC, I

1039
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: don't know if this is a Brian Campbell special, but

1040
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: it's certainly a fun fight to pay attention to. It

1041
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: opens the card. As a matter of fact, Aaron Blanchfield

1042
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: taken on JJ Aldrich. I have to tell you that

1043
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: is a very fun fight. Aaron Blanchfield obviously coming into

1044
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: this fight eight and one. Her last fight over Miranda Maverick,

1045
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: which was a totally deserved win. J. J Aldrich. By

1046
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: the way, I think it's on a three let me

1047
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: double check a three or four fight win streak. Yeah,

1048
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 2: three fight win streak. Courtney Casey, Vanessa Demopolis and Jillian Robertson. Hello,

1049
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: those are some very solid wins. Both can wrestle if

1050
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: they need to. That's going to open the card. That's

1051
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: a very fun card.

1052
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: Opener, very good fight. Yeah. Blanchfield only twenty three, Luke,

1053
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: and you mentioned that last victory, which was an eye

1054
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: opener because of how aggressive her ground and pound in

1055
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 3: grappling was. I think she's summoned to watch. It's coming

1056
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: on without question. And you know, JJ Aldrich is a

1057
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: tough out. Trains regularly with Rosenami units up there in

1058
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: Colorado and has been good. But I think this is

1059
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: a really strong opportunity for blanche Field to potentially get

1060
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: another somewhat notable name on her resume and keep climbing

1061
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: in this flyaway division which has a quicker path to

1062
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: the title potentially. But we're looking for anybody with a

1063
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 3: pulse at one twenty five right. We're also looking Luke

1064
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 3: for Tacionosuarez to one day fight again. I always say

1065
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 3: that depending on which week we can remember her name.

1066
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: But damn do I want to see her in this

1067
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: title contending division and climbing that ladder. But we'll see

1068
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: what happens there. But no, we need more names here.

1069
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: This is a good fight to watch. Shout out to

1070
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 3: our producers grabbing Aaron Blanchefield, b roll here. Look at

1071
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: this Luke.

1072
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty impressive. I don't know how they did that,

1073
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: but they can do it. Yeah, she won this one cleanly,

1074
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: So that's a really great that's a great, great fight

1075
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: to open the weekend. Okay, BC, let's get to it now.

1076
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: You were there on Saturday, you previewed the fight, you

1077
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: did the weigh ins, you did the prelimbs and everything

1078
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: else with Stack and Jay Rock. I saw that, and

1079
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: then you did the post fight. Instant reaction for Jervonte

1080
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: Davis ko Ing basically Rolando Romero inside the sixth round.

1081
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: As you're on a rundown, you would lack my opinion.

1082
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: I'll give it to you in just a second, but

1083
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: just as a very basic, basic, encapsulated recap, what was

1084
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: your biggest takeaway from Tank's win?

1085
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's certainly not surprising. Tank was a monster favorite.

1086
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: We knew the disparity and skill had the potential to

1087
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: be huge. This was a spectacle because of the trash talk,

1088
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: but it was also one of those unique fights where

1089
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 3: you got a big dude in Romero and a big

1090
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: slugger and Luke, I gotta say, even though it played

1091
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: out predictable, I really loved what I saw from Roly Romero,

1092
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: not only winning the promotion of this fight to get

1093
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 3: so many to people to care. And maybe it was

1094
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: just perfect timing that this was the only game in

1095
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: town for combat sports this weekend. There was no MMA,

1096
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: so I did see a lot of you know that

1097
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: UFC fan base sort of take a look because Gravante's

1098
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: star power brings you in there. But Luke, this was

1099
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: a sellout, a new arena record for Barclays in terms

1100
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: of boxing over eighteen thousand and dude, Gravante was welcomed

1101
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 3: like a conquering, returning hero. But yet I don't know, dude,

1102
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just maybe I just something about his charm

1103
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: and weirdness. I've grown a custom and a liking to.

1104
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: But I thought Romero kind of showed out early. I

1105
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 3: like that he added some craft and nuances to his

1106
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: game for a couple rounds there, Luke, And okay, in

1107
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: the end, maybe two and a half rounds, But for

1108
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 3: two and a half rounds Romero lowered the output of

1109
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: Jervonte and made this interesting. He was big, He threw

1110
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: in some faints, he landed some big shots early. Gervante

1111
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: afterwards was like, man, this guy can punch. Look the

1112
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 3: disparity and skill. In the end, it was what it was,

1113
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: and let's give Dravonte credit. He waited for the opening.

1114
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: Let Romero, you know, kind of come off of his heels,

1115
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: rushing forward and he walked right into that perfect left

1116
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 3: that ended the fight right there. But my biggest takeaway

1117
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 3: is Dravante is that dude. He is that star. I mean, dude,

1118
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 3: did you see Madonna was in the crowd, Luke, I

1119
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: mean her face looked like a look like a leather

1120
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 3: handbag unfortunately, Luke. But you know when I say Dravonte

1121
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: brings out the stars, I mean it. They were out

1122
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: in fourmed in force for this one, including Madonna of

1123
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,959
Speaker 3: all people. So you know my takeaway is as expected. Yes,

1124
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: but dude, it was a fun spectacle to get here.

1125
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: And this crowd, this boxing fan base, they love them

1126
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: some Tank Davis. Does he have hiccups outside the ring

1127
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: and you can question and criticize, of course, yes, he's

1128
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: working on that. He's maturing though, but he delivers pretty

1129
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: much every time out And Luke, per capita. I don't

1130
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: know if they just don't have rules for it. But

1131
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: the Barclays Center, there's no other arena in this world

1132
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: where that many people openly smoke weed. I mean, it

1133
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: is a Skit is just a you want to know,

1134
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 3: my real biggest takeaway shout out to the Barclays because

1135
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 3: when you look out there, it's not like, oh that

1136
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 3: guy over there, No, it's every third person is sparking

1137
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: a jay. But good times were had in the end, Luke.

1138
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: But no, I'm not gonna sit here and say we

1139
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: learned a ton. Jervonte exceeded expectations. No Rowley came to fight.

1140
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: He tried, he got sent Luke.

1141
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: You see, let me ask question because this will answer

1142
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: how I felt about it. What is Gervante's date, What

1143
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: is Gervante Davis's best win, and why is it his

1144
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: best win?

1145
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Unfortunately, I don't think there's a slam dunk one.

1146
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: So you see that's where I'm headed with this go ahead.

1147
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: So look when he knocked out Jose Padraza to win,

1148
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 3: to win a title in what one hundred and thirty pounds, dude,

1149
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: that's an absolutely legit win. He dominated his knockout of

1150
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 3: of of Leo Santa Cruz. Yep, I know people are

1151
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: gonna say Santa Cruz was kind of coming up in Wait.

1152
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: He was, but Santa Cruz won won titles in four divisions.

1153
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: He had just moved up to one thirty and one

1154
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: a title right against against Flores, So he's absolutely legit.

1155
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: Santa Cruz was on the edge of the pomp for

1156
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: pound list. Geronte went down in Wait to make that fight.

1157
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: It was a pay per view and oh, by the way,

1158
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: he scored the knockout of the year with a vicious uppercut,

1159
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: So you gotta put respect on that win rather than

1160
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: what everybody doesn't go, Oh, Santa Cruz was too small,

1161
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 3: but Luke. The third one is a little bit sneaky, dude.

1162
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: That Mario Barrios win was really good. Barrios is one

1163
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: hundred and forty pounder who was unbeaten. Garvante moved up

1164
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 3: in wait for the first time to that weight class

1165
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: and went there and they had an action fight and

1166
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: he stopped them late. I mean, those three I think

1167
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: are very good. But does he have a consistent stretch

1168
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 3: of great wins? No, Gervonte Davis, despite all the commercial accolades,

1169
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: despite him knocking on that door of that Pomper pound list.

1170
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 2: No, Luke.

1171
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 3: To some degree, there's a lot of unanswered questions in

1172
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: and around one thirty five in terms of is Jervonte

1173
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: the best in show? Well, the only way to find

1174
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: out is to see him fight all those guys.

1175
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna read though. This is the current ranking,

1176
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: so obviously it take dire for what it's worth. These

1177
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: are from ESPN. They're going to have their own way

1178
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: of ranking people. They obviously have a relationship with top

1179
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: rank that could factor in. Just want to be clear,

1180
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: but this is who they have as their top one

1181
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five pounders. They have George Cambosis, Lumachenko,

1182
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: Dravante sitting at three. Again, you can debate that or whatever,

1183
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: Devin Hate at four, Lopez Junior at five, Grian Garcia

1184
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: at six, Joseph Diaz at seven, he saw Cruz at eight,

1185
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: excuse me, Richard Comey at nine, and then Javier at

1186
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: for Tuna obviously sitting up there at ten. Javier Fortuna

1187
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: is going to fight Ryan Garcia coming up, if I'm

1188
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: not mistaken, So Isak Cruz would be the only name

1189
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: on that list that he's fought at one hundred and

1190
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: forty pounds, which I realize you know is not necessarily

1191
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 2: his best weight, but let's just put it out there.

1192
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 3: They thought it won forty one, so you.

1193
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: Can I understand, I understand you go to one thirty two,

1194
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: but either way or one thirty as well, I should say.

1195
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: But it's Jack Caterall, Josh Taylor, Jose Ramirez, Regis pro Gray,

1196
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: Jose Zepeda, Arnold Barbosa, Subrio, Mattias, Gary Antoine Russell, Jose Pedraza,

1197
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: which is the one you're talking about, and then Montana

1198
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: Love and then again real quickly at one thirty, Shaquer Stevenson,

1199
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: rokamov Oscar Valdez, Jamel Herring who's now retired, Roger Gutierrez,

1200
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: Kenichi Ogawa, Leo Santa Cruz, Hector, Luis Garcia, Chris Colbert,

1201
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: and then Hobson concesal So BC. You can pick out

1202
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: three names, one from each of the weight classes, and

1203
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: in each case they're at the bottom either nine or

1204
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: seven or eight in the weight class. This is my

1205
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: point about this. Romero overachieved in my opinion, because I

1206
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: thought he actually started out pretty smart, using a lot

1207
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: of feints. He is a good athlete, quite obviously, and

1208
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: it was giving Tank a little bit of problems. I

1209
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: would also say, and you heard Tank Davis acknowledge this

1210
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: after the fight, Romero can thump, he can hit hard.

1211
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: I mean, there's simply no denying it. And I think

1212
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: Tank Davis got a little bit of a wake up call.

1213
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: So I thought this was going to be an absolute

1214
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: massacre for Tank Davis. Wasn't that Romero fought better than

1215
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: I thought, But in the end, the difference in quality

1216
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: was way too high for someone like Romero over to

1217
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: achieve long term. Because Tank Davis is not just a

1218
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 2: good athlete. I've made this point before. Who can hit hard.

1219
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: He's a good boxer, he's clever, and he timed him

1220
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: on the half beat because he kept going back to

1221
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 2: the well with that left hook, and he just timed

1222
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: it in between leaned off and that was all she wrote.

1223
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 2: He needed one punch to simply set him on his

1224
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: ass and stop the fight. So that's Tank Davis. But

1225
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: this is my major concern, and I don't run Tank

1226
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: Davis's career. I know he's now a technical free agent.

1227
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: I guess, although Leonard Llby seemed to be quite positive

1228
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: about maintaining that relationship, We'll have to see. Dude, he

1229
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: has got to fight somebody in the top five. He

1230
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: is almost thirty pro fights into his career, and I

1231
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 2: don't know if he has fought and defeated in their

1232
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: current rankings anyone ever in the top five at what

1233
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: time is now.

1234
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: I believe at one thirty he has. But you're correct

1235
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 3: about what you're saying, and I think it's important Luke

1236
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: certainly moving forward, what his promotional relationship is going to be,

1237
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: whether he's going to go on his own like he

1238
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: said he would. But then by the end of the week.

1239
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: As you said, everyone's chummy again and talking like it's

1240
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: going to continue. Davis said this was his last fight

1241
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: coming in under his contract, but then'll be kind of

1242
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: contradicted that in post fight interviews. So either way, if

1243
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: this is even just a wake up call for Javonte

1244
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 3: to speak up and say, look, I'm a monster draw

1245
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: markab believe the biggest draw on this whole area of

1246
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 3: this weight division. I mean he is. He's the pay

1247
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: per view star of this weight era, of this weight

1248
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: class right now. These fights are not They're not easy

1249
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: to make, but they're not impossible, and the only way

1250
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: they're going to get made is when you can get

1251
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: big star power that demands big money, that would make

1252
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: networks rival networks rival promoters be willing to work together.

1253
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 3: But Luke, I think to your point, it can't be

1254
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: fights like roly moving forward now, it was rely this time,

1255
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 3: it was supposed to be. Really the last time we

1256
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 3: got easat Cruz last minute. Still, that's a tough fight.

1257
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: Barrios before that was a creative, fun fight Santa Cruz.

1258
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: Before that creative fun fight. We got to get that

1259
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: creative out of there. We got to go after as

1260
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: you're saying, the biggest names, and look look who showed

1261
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: up at this fight, Ryan Garcia and his dad in

1262
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: the crowd, Teo Fimo, who afterwards was saying, I think

1263
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm the only one that can beat him. Let's do

1264
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 3: it at one forty. Also, who else was there? S

1265
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: Cars Stevenson posed with Gervonte in the locker room afterwards,

1266
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Speaker 3: and by the way, he looked bigger. I know Stevenson's

1267
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 3: not in camp right now, but he looked a lot

1268
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 3: bigger than Tank, even though he's a division smaller than him.

1269
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: You gotta make these now, and I think what's helping

1270
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 3: the potential of that, as I said, is Dravante is

1271
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 3: such a star that there's starting to be enough money

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00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: there where. I hope the powers that be, and those

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00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: powers that be meaning Floyd Maywe, Leonard ller b al

1274
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 3: Hayman at PBC, Stephen Espinosa's showtime, I would love to

1275
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 3: see it. Now. He is established as a star, so

1276
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: let's start knocking on the doors of those big name

1277
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 3: competitors that'll give him the critical respect that I believe

1278
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 3: he deserves. Because Luke, I've had him in and around

1279
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: nine ten eleven in my pund for pound rankings. I

1280
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of publications have hesitated to do that,

1281
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: And if it's because of the matchmaking, that's fine. But dude,

1282
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: tell me you don't think from what you're seeing that

1283
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: Jervonte has pump for pound level skill. Of course he does.

1284
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 3: Now we got to see it, and it just so

1285
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: happens that he's in the deepest division from the standpoint

1286
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: of young studs and Shaquer Stevenson's knocking on that door

1287
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: to eventually move up. Luke, Yeah, it is time. It

1288
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: is time to s or get off the pot. Let's

1289
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: make the not only the biggest fights available in terms

1290
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: of commerciality, but like, let's make the real biggest fights.

1291
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: Because you can become a star through branding, trash talk,

1292
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 3: even a highlight reel of knockouts, but you don't become

1293
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: a le until you do what you just asked r.

1294
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 3: Vonte to do. Look at the top five and say,

1295
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 3: regardless of money, promoter network, let's find a way to

1296
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 3: make that happen, because that's gotta be Luke, the biggest

1297
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 3: regret in the end for anyone, a fan, the fighter himself,

1298
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 3: to know that you were of that skill in that

1299
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 3: era but yet you potentially didn't max it out against

1300
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 3: the best available. I love the I love where we're

1301
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: at in boxing. Not just that twenty twenty one was

1302
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: a great year and it's spilled into this year and

1303
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: this is already a great year for boxing, but the

1304
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 3: willingness of those who don't play on the same team

1305
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: to make fights happen. We're going in the right direction.

1306
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: Let's make these fight happen. These fights happen. So, Luke,

1307
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 3: here's what I don't love. Because Ryan Garcia is in

1308
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: the crowd. He's saying, I want to fight Tank in December.

1309
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: It's gonna fight Fortune in July, but he's saying I

1310
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: want to fight Taking December. Luke, if that's a two

1311
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 3: network pay per view, if it has to be, it's

1312
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: not gonna you know, it's not gonna sell them million

1313
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: and a half buys. But Ryan Garci has got you know,

1314
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 3: eight million followers on Instagram. He's a verifight star himself.

1315
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: I don't like afterwards that they asked Leonard Ellerby about

1316
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 3: it in CEO of Mayweather Promotions, and he just goes

1317
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 3: on and on saying, I'm telling you Ryan doesn't want

1318
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 3: that fight. Well, he is in the crowd do an

1319
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 3: interview saying he does. So, can we sit down at

1320
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 3: the negotiation table, can we get Oscar de la Hoya,

1321
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: can we get this zone, can we get whoever we

1322
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: need to and let's make these fights happen.

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01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: Luke, I gotta tell you, I just don't believe that.

1324
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that. I mean, here's the reality

1325
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: for me. You asked me, like, do I think Tank

1326
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 2: Davis is like up there with potential pound for pound conversations.

1327
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't have any doubt about Tank Davis's ability. He

1328
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: can hit hard, He's a sensational athlete. He has significantly

1329
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: higher boxing IQ than I think. Folks recognize that dude

1330
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: can fight. There is not a doubt in my mind.

1331
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: Now where does he actually fall between the lopezz and

1332
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: the Garcias and whatever. Don't know the answer to that,

1333
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 2: but I certainly think he is their peer and maybe

1334
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: they're king. We will have to see. What gets me

1335
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: is dude, it's career, it's his life, it's his brain cells.

1336
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: He can make the choices about who he wants to

1337
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: fight ultimately for himself, and that's what it's going to be.

1338
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: But from this point on if you're nearly thirty pro

1339
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: fights in your career and you're beating guys like this who.

1340
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 2: I also think that Tank was take him in like

1341
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: very light at the weigh ends, but I don't know

1342
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: how seriously he took this. The reality for me is

1343
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: fight who you want to fight. But if you're not

1344
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: going to fight these top five guys nearly thirty fights

1345
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: into your career and eight by the way, clearly Tank

1346
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: Davis would be the A side. I don't care what

1347
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: anybody else says. He's the only guy who has proven

1348
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: to be a draw and pay per view. You don't

1349
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: get to dodge the criticisms that you're not fighting the

1350
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: people who are the best in your weight class. You

1351
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: now have to accept those criticisms. You can fight whoever

1352
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: you want for whatever reasons you want, but that doesn't

1353
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: then absolve you from then like you don't get the

1354
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: acclaim that like you get a certain kind of a

1355
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: claim that comes from beating other top five guys. Right,

1356
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: Canelo is chief again, Bill boll fighting notwithstanding, is a

1357
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: clear demonstration of that there's a certain level of a

1358
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: claim you get both long term and short term if

1359
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: you don't fight guys like that. You are not entitled

1360
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: to those praise. You're not entitled to that kind of

1361
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: not worship per se, but the recognition that comes with

1362
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: you are entitled to only the recognition that comes from

1363
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: fighting one or two steps down from that, which is

1364
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: not nearly the same. So make a choice about who

1365
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: you want to fight. But then they come back and

1366
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 2: they're like, you know, oh, we tried, you know, we

1367
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: just couldn't get it. I really, I'm sorry to tell you,

1368
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that at this point. I really

1369
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: don't try harder, is what my answer was.

1370
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 3: Well, what LLERB would tell you is that they did

1371
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: reach out to try to make the fight with Garcia,

1372
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 3: but it was during a time that Ryan Garcia thought

1373
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 3: he might get Pacchiao. So Golden Boy and them said,

1374
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 3: hold on, you know, we got other things we're trying

1375
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 3: to do. So that's what's always going to be the excuse.

1376
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: But I am with you that it doesn't It hasn't

1377
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 3: seemed for the most part that team Tank, whether that's

1378
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 3: Floyd or l Erb whoever, has been aggressive enough to

1379
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: do exactly what you're saying. They've been aggressive to make

1380
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 3: him a star. Yes, they haven't been aggressive enough to

1381
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: leave no doubt in that critical discussion. I'd like to

1382
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: see that change. So if it does change the second

1383
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 3: half of this calendar year, what do you think is

1384
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 3: the biggest and best fight that team Tank meaning PBC

1385
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 3: Showtime Lerb. If that you know, if that's if Tank's

1386
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 3: still here and this is the direction we're going, who

1387
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: do they target? Should it be Ryan Garcia to close

1388
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: the ear? Should it be the winner of Haini Cambosis

1389
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 3: for all four titles, which happens this Saturday, although I

1390
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: believe Cambosis has a rematch clause which could get in

1391
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 3: the way. Is it somebody different? Is it? Is it

1392
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 3: Tayo female one forty?

1393
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 4: Is?

1394
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, what do you think? Luke? Where

1395
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 3: where do you go with this? Right now?

1396
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: I think obviously Garcia has the Fortuna fight, which, by

1397
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: the way, you know, I would expect Garcia to win,

1398
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: but Fortuna could make that. I mean, Garcia did not

1399
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 2: look awesome in his last fight, granted a new trainer

1400
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: in a situation time off, blah blah blah. We know

1401
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: the story, but okay, that's there. Listen, listen, this is

1402
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: not complicated, dude. Any of them, and like why we

1403
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: keep making this to be like, well, who's it going

1404
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: to be? And is okay? Obviously going through top rank

1405
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: is kind of be a little bit harder than the

1406
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: other options. So you know, we'll have to see what

1407
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: happens with cambosis. We'll have to see what happens to

1408
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: your point about you know, Garcia, those are the two

1409
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: obvious ones that go right after Do try any of them?

1410
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, if you can fight across three

1411
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: way classes, how about this is very simple. How about

1412
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 2: any top five guy in any of those have fifteen

1413
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: names you could literally pick from pick one of them.

1414
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: Pick somebody at the upper end of that division. Now

1415
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: that Tank Davis is, I'm not sure how old he is,

1416
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: but clearly either at nearing or Dude, he's not even

1417
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: at his physical prime, but he's getting pretty close. Dude,

1418
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: give this guy a challenge who I think is on

1419
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: par with Tank. The problem with some of these fights

1420
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: are that, you know, Mario Barrios very good, Esak Cruz,

1421
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Estak Cruz is a very underrated win

1422
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: and the Padraza went on top of that. These guys

1423
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: are good, but in the end they were outmatched. They

1424
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 2: were out matched. Give me somebody that I can't look

1425
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: at right on paper and say and Estak Cruz came

1426
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: in short notice too, but that I can't say, Yeah,

1427
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: this probably favors Tank. Give me someone where I'm like,

1428
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't really know what the answer is. Someone. If

1429
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: you want what the rewards that comes with that, both financial,

1430
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: in both historic and in terms of present rankings, all

1431
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: of the many benefits, you've got to go do those things.

1432
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: If you don't do those things, you don't get those rewards.

1433
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: Simple as that for me. So find who you want

1434
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: to fight. But if you want to be viewed at

1435
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: as like the guy in this division, you got to

1436
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 2: beat the other guys at one thirty one thirty five,

1437
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: simple as that.

1438
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't love that. May with the protions

1439
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: stance has always been sort of like, well, we're the

1440
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: money player in the division. If you want to fight us,

1441
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: come to us. And what that means without saying it

1442
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 3: is leave your network and come fight on our network

1443
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: on our pay per view versus us. You know it

1444
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 3: doesn't work with stars and boxing. You've got to be

1445
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: creative and do two network deals. If Luke, I'm right,

1446
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 3: meaning Hany versus Cambosis ends up in either an immediate

1447
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 3: rematch to close the year, or Lomachenko fighting the winner,

1448
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 3: remember Lomachenk. Originally they were trying to set up against

1449
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: Cambosis for all four belts, but the Ukraine conflict got

1450
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 3: in the way. If that's the case, the fight to

1451
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 3: make for me is Tank versus Brian Garcia, because not

1452
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 3: only is Garcia arguably the biggest star of all of

1453
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 3: those potential big names, he's also the most vulnerable. Luke like,

1454
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 3: he's we're not sure yet if Ryan Garcia has the

1455
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: elite chin, if he's not just a you know, an

1456
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 3: American two point zero, We're still not really sure. We

1457
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 3: saw him get dropped by a non puncher, and Luke Campbell,

1458
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 3: yeah he came back and blew away to go, but

1459
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 3: you know that was not not a high profile fight.

1460
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: And even though Javier for Fortuna is ranked and as

1461
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 3: a veteran, that's also not a high profile fight. If

1462
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: I'm team Tank, I do whatever I can to make

1463
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: the Ryan Garcia fight or Luke. You know how, I

1464
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 3: sit in my own war room, this this basement office,

1465
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 3: and I make really fun, creative UFC pay per view

1466
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 3: fights and really gross, creative MMA regional fights. Can I

1467
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 3: make a really fun and creative boxing fight and get

1468
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 3: your opinion ready for this? Would you buy in considering

1469
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 3: this man just lost the election? Would you buy in

1470
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 3: to close the year with Tank Davis move two weight

1471
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 3: classes to fight to fight Pakia on pay per view?

1472
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 3: You would not be into that?

1473
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: No, fuck off. I don't give a shit. I don't

1474
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: give a shit. No, no, no, no, fight why some one.

1475
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. You're asking me why you're asking me why?

1476
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 2: I will tell you fight someone good, Fight someone your age, ish,

1477
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 2: fight someone relevantly ranked in the divisions in which you

1478
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: have fought. Stop jerry mandering the weight class and where

1479
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 2: we're going to do this and all that. Fuck No,

1480
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: you are a one thirty five fighter, maybe one forty,

1481
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 2: maybe one thirty five, one thirty five. Fight someone top

1482
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: five there. It is time. He is twenty eight, nearly

1483
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: years old, thirty almost pro fights. He's the king of

1484
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: this division at least in terms of pay per view.

1485
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: You automatically will be the a side fight someone relevant. Period.

1486
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: That's my personal view.

1487
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 3: That was my idea, not his. For the record, but

1488
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: don't think it's not something that's so. But he is

1489
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 3: not talking about somewhere because of the star power and

1490
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: the fact that he'd really have to move up and

1491
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 3: wait against a big puncher for that, you know, you

1492
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 3: can consider comparatively to where Tank's been fighting. But let

1493
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 3: me close with this, Luke Okay. In terms of tanks

1494
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 3: are contemporaries. I'm gonna name them, and you tell me

1495
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 3: quickly right now who you favor against him. You're ready

1496
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 3: for this. Here we go, Ryan Garcia, who do you favors?

1497
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 4: I picked Tank, Tayo Femal wont Tank Wow, Wow wow.

1498
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: Uh, Tank can fight. It's not an issue of tank

1499
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: and fight. It's not an issue.

1500
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 3: Devin Haney at one thirty five for all the belts,

1501
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: hany Ooh he's he is really good. We're gonna find

1502
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: out against Cambos.

1503
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I think. I think, obviously, if if

1504
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: a guy like Tank can touch him consistently, that's a

1505
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: real big problem for Haney. But I think hany is

1506
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: the kind of guy to cross every T and dot

1507
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: every I in ways I'm not sure Tank is just yet,

1508
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: and so for that maturity, competitively, I would lean towards

1509
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: Haney for that.

1510
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 3: Now, I know that people are gonna be hitting me up. Yes, Cambosis,

1511
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 3: who I've we've we've looked past every time. Yet he's

1512
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: betting odds wise, he's right there against Haney this weekend,

1513
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 3: so he's also in play. But Luke to close Shaker,

1514
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 3: Stevenson moving up to thirty five against against Gravante. Dude,

1515
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 3: that's the fight.

1516
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: Right Stevenson. I favor Stevenson and Loma. I don't know

1517
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: what to make of what Loma's got left. That's the

1518
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 2: hard part. Oh, I know old Loma. I favor Loma,

1519
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: but new Loma I might favorite Tank. I don't know.

1520
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a that's a tougher one. I

1521
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: don't know the answer.

1522
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 3: I want to see them all. Hey, hey, Leonard and

1523
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 3: al and everyone.

1524
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: Else the point, I want any of those, any of

1525
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: those all right, BC, let's stick with boxing. Well, let's

1526
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 2: go to the Dana White side of things. So Dana

1527
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: White was on the block Party podcast that's with Adam

1528
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: Caterall and Nick Pete. I think those are the gentleman

1529
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: from BT Sport out in the UK, and they asked

1530
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: him about like sort of are you still involved in boxing.

1531
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: What's the whole idea here? And uh, he is basically out.

1532
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: Now he has said I'm in, I'm out several times,

1533
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: but here is what he wrote. This is the block

1534
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 2: Assets block Party, so some crypto fucking sponsored podcast whatever.

1535
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: Every time I try to think about doing something with boxing,

1536
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 2: I go, why would I want to do this? To myself?

1537
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: I said, you know what I mean, why would I

1538
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 2: even want to dive into this nightmare? That's why I

1539
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: haven't really done anything. It's a broken business that is

1540
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: an absolute nightmare to try to fix. Now BC, I

1541
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: wanted to include this because I actually thought this was

1542
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: a really important conversation to have. And this is one

1543
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: thing I really feel like a lot of folks don't

1544
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 2: understand about boxing what they feel like. And this is

1545
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: again I'm not claiming to be any kind of boxing expert,

1546
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 2: but from the time that I've spent covering it, both

1547
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: previously and in the last few years, here's what dawns

1548
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: on me. Then. I don't think a lot of folks realize.

1549
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: If you wanted to argue that MMA runs more simply

1550
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 2: and more nimbly, that is pretty much which incontestably true.

1551
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: It does. It runs more simply and more easily. Right,

1552
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: there are some complicating factors. The industry is hardly perfect,

1553
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,440
Speaker 2: but that relative to boxing, it is a smoother process

1554
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: to get things done. But the reason why things are

1555
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: a little bit more difficult to get them done in

1556
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: boxing is intentional. People think that boxing fell into a

1557
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 2: state of disrepair, and there have been certain things that

1558
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: have gone wrong, and particularly with the sanctioning bodies, where

1559
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 2: that is somewhat true. However, through the force of law,

1560
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: this is what is lost on a lot of folks. Yes,

1561
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: it is harder to make boxing run more smoothly, but

1562
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 2: that is intentional, and the reason is intentional. And why

1563
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: you have rankings independent of any kind of promoter. Why

1564
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: the promoter, for example, cannot have their own weight class titles.

1565
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 2: Why there are other protections with the Muhammad Ali Boxing

1566
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: Reform Act, is there are federal laws and protections in

1567
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: place to make sure that the industry's various power centers

1568
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: are at least somewhat more evenly balanced. Sometimes that works

1569
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,959
Speaker 2: out well, sometimes that doesn't. As I mentioned, the sanctioning

1570
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: bodies have some larger issues in play, but they exist

1571
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 2: for a reason as well, which is when the promoter

1572
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 2: can create their own title. All kinds of problems ensue

1573
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 2: having an independent sanctioning body, at least in theory, one

1574
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: of them solves that kind of problem. It makes it

1575
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: much more difficult for the promoter to be able to

1576
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 2: wield the kind of power that they do. It is

1577
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 2: an intentional balancing act, and I know that that makes

1578
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 2: for some consumer frustration. We just talked about it with

1579
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 2: Tank Davis. However, However, long term, I don't know that

1580
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 2: it's a great idea that MMA industry is basically a monopoly.

1581
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: Like you can tell me, oh, it's great that Amazon.

1582
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 2: I can go into Amazon, I can shop for whatever

1583
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: I want, and it's great and it's good for me, Yeah,

1584
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: but it's hard to say it's good for consumer's long

1585
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,879
Speaker 2: term to have that kind of a role in the industry. Moreover,

1586
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: people think, as I said before, that it's just a

1587
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: state of disrepair that it fell into. No, it's a

1588
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 2: designed system to balance competing interests and power centers. And

1589
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: while that may not be as consumer forward as we like,

1590
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: it actually protects itself much longer over the long term. Anyway.

1591
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 2: By doing that, that's I think something very very lost

1592
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: on folks that needs to be said.

1593
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 3: Well, it was lost on Dana White this whole time. Now,

1594
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,879
Speaker 3: you know, the origins of ZUFA Boxing were certainly well. Obviously,

1595
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 3: Dana on the Fertidas are longtime boxing fans, and they

1596
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 3: came up in boxing managing and training. But it was

1597
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 3: really Maymac that I think opened up. That's when Dana

1598
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 3: showed up at the press conference with a Zufo boxing

1599
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: teahert and the idea that you know what, there's a

1600
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 3: lot of money to be made here, so why don't

1601
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 3: I just stumble on over and make it? But so

1602
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 3: much has changed since then, Luke, in terms of the

1603
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 3: UFC's financial picture. I mean, look, that fight was what

1604
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen Maymac twenty nineteen was the UFC's first card

1605
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 3: with their new deal with ESPN, which was so lucrative

1606
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 3: that you can argue they don't need to be doing

1607
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 3: this stuff anymore because look, you got to look at

1608
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 3: it in timeframe twenty sixteen, UFC business through the roof,

1609
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 3: but they sell, they sell high, and then twenty seventeen

1610
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 3: was kind of a pick up. The pieces year, no Rhonda,

1611
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 3: no Connor, pay per view sales down. I think that

1612
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 3: fueled some of the chance taking we saw with UFC

1613
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 3: in terms of matchmaking of pay per views and getting

1614
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 3: in on this Maymac thing and cashing in on it

1615
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 3: like they did as the co promoter. But it was

1616
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 3: always an ignorant idea for Dana to just think, I'll

1617
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: walk right in into that that game and have the

1618
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 3: same success. You just nailed it in. Why you said

1619
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 3: that there's laws built to do that, Like it was

1620
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: a perfect storm. How Dana and Zoofa really saved the

1621
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 3: sport of MMA, at least in the States, when UFC

1622
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 3: was you know, banned from TV and pay per view

1623
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 3: and really going nowhere. And then they come in, they

1624
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 3: buy it, They put a lot of money into it,

1625
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 3: they almost lose it a couple of times, and then

1626
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 3: they make it work and shout out to them. But

1627
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 3: because they picked it up when it was broken, when

1628
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 3: nobody wanted it, that's how they were able to establish

1629
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 3: such insane control over everything from titles to matchmaking everything.

1630
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 3: You just said. You can't just walk in and boxing

1631
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 3: and do that same thing. How many people with a

1632
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 3: lot of money have tried. How many celebrities have tried

1633
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 3: to start promotions? Jay Z Sugar, Ray Leonard, Roy Jones,

1634
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 3: I mean like across the board so many and fifty

1635
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 3: cent and then sort of been like, oh wow, this

1636
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: is a losing proposition in the long run. I think

1637
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 3: the only way zoofa Boxing would have worked because remember

1638
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 3: Dane at first was like, I think we want to

1639
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 3: be a promoter. Then he was like, I think we

1640
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 3: want to just be a have our own UFC Fight

1641
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 3: Pass where other boxing promoters can come and do their

1642
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 3: pay per views on. But nobody's gonna you know, like

1643
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: you have to look at where boxing is in the

1644
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 3: modern financial terms. Promoters get tied to networks these days.

1645
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 3: That's where they make their money. Nobody's gonna go put

1646
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 3: their fight on UFC Fight Pass unless they have nowhere

1647
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 3: else to put it. So I think the only way

1648
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 3: zoofa Boxing could actually in this clim at work is

1649
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 3: if Dana White and company wanted to get into sort

1650
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: of that carnival Jake Paul side of the business. We

1651
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 3: all know that Jake Paul wants nothing but to box

1652
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 3: faded UFC names to make his name in boxing. Unless

1653
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 3: UFC was willing to say, Okay, Jake, why don't you

1654
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 3: just come to us, We'll give you the guys under

1655
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 3: the zoofa boxing banner. But look, they don't need to

1656
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 3: do that financially. So because they don't need to, you

1657
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 3: don't need to create that trouble of MMA fighters trying

1658
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 3: to create more leverage under the UFC banner by by

1659
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 3: trying to get big boxing matches and all this, it's

1660
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 3: just a headache. So yeah, it's no surprise. But we

1661
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 3: also were here when Dana kind of said this last

1662
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 3: year and the year before. It was always sort of

1663
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 3: a pipe dream that he was just gonna walk in

1664
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 3: and swing his big dick and everybody was gonna gonna

1665
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: end up on UFC Fight Pass. Not gonna happen. Boxing

1666
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 3: is a is a is a broken wild West sport

1667
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 3: in terms of the functioning organization. That's no surprise. Run

1668
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 3: by basically the same people for a very long time.

1669
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 3: It's there's there. There's low barriers of entury, but there's

1670
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 3: huge barriers of to have consistent success and flow. So

1671
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 3: this seems smart in the long run. We just you know,

1672
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 3: we had to print a few goofy zoof of boxing

1673
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 3: shirts to get here, and Dana had to find out

1674
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 3: the hard way, Luke.

1675
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: But the thing that always just bothers me. When people

1676
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 2: interview him about this, he also says the same thing.

1677
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: He says, the industry is broken. Okay, I'm not here

1678
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 2: to say that it did right, right, But if I

1679
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: asked you why it's broken, and I'm about to, you're

1680
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 2: gonna give me a specific answer. He never seems to

1681
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: say what is broken about it? My personal criticism bce,

1682
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: my biggest, one of my biggest pet peeves is the

1683
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 2: sanctioning bodies actually fulfill an extremely important role which, as

1684
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: I mentioned before, the promoter not being able to have

1685
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: their own title, that is an absolutely massive, massive gift

1686
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 2: and important one for the fighters to maintain some relevancy,

1687
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: and of course independent rankings go along with that. However,

1688
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 2: they have abused that to a degree in creating WBA

1689
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 2: Super Interim you know, Latin American Champion or you know whatever,

1690
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: double interim, right, So.

1691
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 3: That's used it to a large degree.

1692
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so they have to me they while they

1693
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 2: have a valuable role, they have abused part of that

1694
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 2: valuable role in all the ways of which they've created

1695
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: a title. When you think of why boxing is broken,

1696
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 2: by the way, I don't think boxing is broken. I

1697
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 2: think it's just a decentralized kind of sport, which just

1698
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: makes it inherently chaotic. What is your major criticism of

1699
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: boxing as a way it's constructed.

1700
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lack of a central, central body of

1701
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 3: sorts that can organize the the matchmaking and the business

1702
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 3: distribution of it. Right, Like, if we want stars to

1703
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: fight each other while they're young, you have to have

1704
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 3: so much money involved for networks and promoters to want

1705
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 3: to get off of their platform or tie their platform

1706
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 3: to another and do a joint pay per view. So,

1707
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 3: you know, we used to say the problem in boxing was,

1708
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 3: you know, you're not on national tele you know, network

1709
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 3: television anymore. Well we got back on network television. It

1710
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,879
Speaker 3: changed a little, it didn't change a ton because boxing

1711
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 3: is still too dependent on the pay per view model.

1712
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 3: So you can't put great fights on regular TV because

1713
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 3: who's going to pay for it? And that's an issue.

1714
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: And uh, you're right, is it broken or is it

1715
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 3: just disorganized? Either way, Luke, the problem is the best

1716
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 3: can't fight the best easily because everybody has a already

1717
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 3: has a silo and structure set up for them to

1718
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 3: make the most money that they can make.

1719
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna okay, but dude, in fairness, okay, I was like, BC,

1720
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,799
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I couldn't. I couldn't possibly disagree

1721
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 2: with you. You certainly know this sport better than me, and

1722
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 2: I would never say otherwise. However, you would also agree, dude,

1723
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 2: this thing about like, well, the best don't fight the

1724
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: best in boxing, Dude, the best fight the best in

1725
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: boxing routinely. Yes, there are some certain cases. We just

1726
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 2: talked about Tank Davis, Please dontmost understand me. And he's

1727
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: not fighting chumps either, He's fighting good fighters. But we're

1728
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 2: talking like one, two, two, three, three four. That kind

1729
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,839
Speaker 2: of a thing, dude, that happens significantly more in boxing

1730
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: than it ever seems to be publicly aware of.

1731
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 3: True that that's a great point. I agree with you.

1732
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 3: The trends are are trending up, but it's still a

1733
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 3: it's still a problem at its core that there's major

1734
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: exceptions to that, and the major exceptions are what hold

1735
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 3: people back, even if they like boxing, from being a

1736
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 3: consistent day to day, week to week fan, because they go,

1737
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 3: where's the payoff? Right?

1738
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: Yes, but I also just feel like there was partly

1739
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: a sanctioning body issue, partly a rankings issue partly a

1740
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,959
Speaker 2: diverse promoter issue, but there's not really a clear explanation

1741
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: of like no no no, like Haini cambosis. This is,

1742
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: at least in theory, a claim for one versus two.

1743
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 2: It's happening this weekend. We just had Dremel Charlow unify

1744
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: all the titles against Brian Costano. What are some of

1745
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 2: the big fights we have coming up here that I

1746
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 2: haven't even My brain is now not working right.

1747
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 3: Now, Usik Joshua too, probably.

1748
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: August right, I mean, dude, like the idea that the

1749
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: best to fight the best, Yeah, there are some noteworthy

1750
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 2: exceptions to that is that speak to a real deficiency

1751
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 2: in the business model. However, boxing's reputation for never facilitating

1752
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: the best versus the best is greatly overstated. That's my

1753
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: only point.

1754
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 3: That's fair. That's fair. But you know, circle back as

1755
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 3: it pertains to Dana. I'm not surprised Luke. I'm not

1756
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 3: surprised at all.

1757
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 2: Okay, and not surprised probably for the best that he

1758
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: stays out of it.

1759
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 3: Because I think he thought Luke to be fair, he

1760
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 3: thought he was gonna come in cherry pick. You can't

1761
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 3: cherry pick in boxing. You have to establish yourself, get

1762
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 3: a roster of fighters, get a network deal. Like it's

1763
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: not easy. It's why Bob Ahram is ninety something and

1764
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 3: still on top, right, It's why Don King is who's

1765
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 3: no longer on top but still in it.

1766
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: Right, It's you for MMA fans. For MMA fans who

1767
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 2: are like, well, why don't you just have zufer boxing

1768
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: and have like MMA fighters box and have to be different? Well,

1769
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 2: for two reasons. One like, what would be like if

1770
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 2: you could make I know, Connor and Dustin have already fought,

1771
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: but let's say they hadn't. Oh, you could make Connor

1772
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,799
Speaker 2: and Dustin as a boxing fight. Even if the boxing

1773
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 2: fight were good, people would be like, well, okay, but

1774
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 2: if you could make it there, why wouldn't you just

1775
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 2: make an MM fight? So like that wouldn't really work.

1776
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: And more to the point, once you make them a boxer,

1777
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 2: they're entitled to federal protections. They don't have any of

1778
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 2: those as an MM fighter. It's probably no secret that

1779
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: the Dana White thinks that If Dana White thinks that

1780
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: the boxers the A List boxers are overpaid, what he's

1781
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: really saying is that the promoters are underpaid. That's what

1782
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 2: he really believes. At the end of the day, he

1783
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 2: believes the promoters are underpaid. And when you start giving

1784
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 2: these guys rights that they otherwise don't have and abilities

1785
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 2: to negotiate that the otherwise don't have by virtue of

1786
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 2: again federal protections, the whole ballgame fall support for how

1787
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: the UFC does business. Yes, of course, never.

1788
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 3: Has a lot of celebrity investors that need to get

1789
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 3: their money back before the fighters for their investors.

1790
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it all right, last, but

1791
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 2: not at least we go with just some boxing storylines

1792
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: we see, we'll kind of quick hit these because we

1793
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of time to get to them.

1794
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: We indicated George Campbos has taken on Devin Haney this weekend.

1795
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: This is for what ostensibly the very best one thirty

1796
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 2: five or how do you size these two up? Where's

1797
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: it airing? By the way, I should have looked that

1798
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: up ahead of time.

1799
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 3: Sorry, It's going to air on ESPN. It's going to

1800
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 3: be in primetime Saturday night. And it is a great

1801
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 3: fight now all.

1802
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 2: The way from Melbourne, right yep.

1803
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 3: And there's definitely some interesting storylines involved. The biggest one

1804
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: that's probably come up of late is that Devin Haney's

1805
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 3: father and trainer will not be able to make the

1806
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 3: flight with him. His father and trainer flew to Las

1807
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 3: Vegas them sent him off on the flight to Australia.

1808
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 3: But the reason is because Hane's father had a felony

1809
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 3: conviction on drug trafficking, you know, back in his early twenties.

1810
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 3: That is preventing him from being able to travel to

1811
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 3: Australia a long time ago. He's a changed man. How

1812
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 3: will this affect Hane? It's gonna be interesting because he's

1813
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: going to enemy territory. This is the first fight on

1814
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 3: his sort of new deal with with ESPN, leaving his

1815
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 3: own and sort of changing promoters. This is a great fight, Luke,

1816
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,759
Speaker 3: you know we've overlooked Cambos as yet. He's hungry as crap.

1817
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 3: He went in there and elevated himself against Tyo Femo

1818
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 3: to a level that you know, I didn't think we

1819
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 3: hadn't seen the past, and I didn't think was possible.

1820
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 3: And now the betting odds are pretty close, and it

1821
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 3: might make sense considering even though Hani is clearly you know,

1822
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 3: more talented category to category dude, Cambosa is gonna be

1823
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 3: fighting at home in a giant stadium. Hani's father and

1824
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 3: train are not there. This is gonna be very interesting

1825
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 3: because there's no shortage of stakes. It's all four of

1826
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 3: the titles in one of boxing's best divisions one thirty five. Right,

1827
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 3: all those young names we talked about. The winner is

1828
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 3: gonna be in that in that you know, pole position,

1829
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 3: in of the control. Uh, because they're gonna they're gonna

1830
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 3: be the chase. People are gonna be chasing them. So, uh,

1831
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 3: you gotta be excited about this. Just style wise, we

1832
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 3: know Cambosis goes after it gets inside, lets his hands go,

1833
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 3: and Haney is that in theory you do it all guy,

1834
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: But Luke, we have seen at times, particularly the Jorge

1835
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 3: Lenaris fight, Hani can get He can get himself into

1836
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 3: you know, he could be a little vulnerable when Lenaris

1837
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 3: was losing that fight, but the championship rounds caught up

1838
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,560
Speaker 3: to him and suddenly you're seeing Haney circle away and

1839
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 3: jabbing from the outside. Now he has repaired that. He

1840
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 3: looked great against Jojo Diaz. There was another quality win.

1841
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 3: But uh, he's got a lot to prove in this one,

1842
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 3: especially that he can go do this on the road.

1843
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 3: Remember Earl Spence going to England to beat kel Brooke

1844
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 3: and that was sort of his breakthrough, giant moment. Uh,

1845
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 3: this is.

1846
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: Here, James in the corner there.

1847
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 3: That's a fair point as well. But uh, you know this,

1848
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a good one, Luke, And there's

1849
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 3: so you know, whether they rematch afterwards or Loma's next

1850
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 3: or whomever, there's so much big business that's gonna come

1851
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 3: off of this. I think we're in for for a

1852
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,919
Speaker 3: fight that's gonna exceed expectations that you of the excitement

1853
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 3: in the in the action.

1854
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. I love this contest. The

1855
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 2: only thing I would add is BC, I think both

1856
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: of us were so wrong about Cambosis, Yeah, that we

1857
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: have to have some humility here. So I'm gonna call

1858
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: this one a coin flip. Yes, I'll be honest with

1859
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: the audience. In my heart of hearts, I see Haney

1860
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: as a better boxer, but I saw Lopez as a

1861
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: much better boxer. And and George Cambosis not the entirety

1862
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: of that fight, but for a good stretches of it

1863
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: beat him like a fucking drum. So to your point, Hani,

1864
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 2: not having the coach, not having the corner, the travel issues,

1865
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: the whole nine yards. This is a huge test for him.

1866
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,799
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say coin Flip made the best man win. Okay.

1867
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: On Showtime this weekend, cool boys, Steph is back off

1868
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: a fight of the Year candidate and by the way,

1869
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: a unification as well. Fulton will take on Danny Roman.

1870
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 2: Daniel Roman, who I believe you see grrity from wrong?

1871
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: Wasn't he a part of the Charlo doubleheader? Was that

1872
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: the card he was on? Yes? Last set this one

1873
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: up for us. What what can fans expect from this

1874
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: one on Showtime over the weekend.

1875
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 3: This is a sleeper of a great fight waiting to

1876
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 3: break out on Saturday. We know that Showtime has committed

1877
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 3: heavily in the past, you know, eighteen months to this

1878
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 3: division one hundred and twenty two pounds, which it had

1879
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 3: been a while since we had a group of like,

1880
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 3: you know, American based, English speaking elite fighters. Well we

1881
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 3: got that now. And if you don't know about Danny Roman,

1882
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 3: he may be quiet in terms of his you know,

1883
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 3: talking and quotes and all that, but he's a monster

1884
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 3: inside of that ring. He's the former unified champion in

1885
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 3: this division. He lost a split decision two years ago

1886
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 3: to murge On Akmadaliev. It was a fight of the

1887
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 3: Year contender, was all action. Roman was the guy who

1888
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 3: came on late, but he lost his two titles. He's

1889
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: had a really nice string of victories usually on Fulton

1890
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 3: or Figueroa comain events or undercards to get back to

1891
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 3: this level. Fulton just squeaked out that say it again,

1892
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 3: fight of the Year contender against Figaroa last December, and

1893
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 3: it was such an amazing performance really from both guys,

1894
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 3: but Fulton got the edge. Luke, He's going right back

1895
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 3: in there against the guy who can who you know,

1896
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 3: if you ask what can Danny Roman do? He can

1897
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,919
Speaker 3: do it all. He's a very good He's a smart boxer.

1898
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 3: But he's a guy that when when the chips are

1899
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 3: on the table, he lets his hands go and goes

1900
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 3: after it. We know the Fulton does the same thing. Dude,

1901
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 3: This Saturday night, set your clocks for showtime. Get your

1902
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 3: thirty days free right now at showtime dot com, because

1903
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a hell of a fight. You know,

1904
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 3: could the winner be faced in a Figaroa Luis Nari

1905
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 3: who knows this division's hot. But this is a great matchup.

1906
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 2: Was it like two wins ago when when somebody won

1907
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: and you told Fulton in the ring when you were

1908
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 2: doing the filling in for Jim Gray that you look

1909
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: forward to nine to eleven. Was that was that a

1910
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 2: Fulton fight?

1911
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? That No, that was when Figaroa knocked out Luis

1912
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 3: Narry's body.

1913
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: That's right.

1914
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 3: The Fulton came in the ring afterwards, and you know

1915
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 3: September eleventh, can't wait, this is gonna be great. Yeah,

1916
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 3: kill Whitney.

1917
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, Anthony Joshua is back in the news. Yes,

1918
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: of course we're concerned about the rematch with Usik. But

1919
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 2: the one I wanted to point out here very quickly

1920
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: is BC he got a new trainer, Robert Garcia. Who

1921
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 2: is Robert Garcia? And why should fans care?

1922
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: Dude? This is surprising. Now if you remember, Anthony Joshua

1923
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 3: went on a tour over the US, you know what,

1924
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 3: about four or five six months ago, visiting with different trainers.

1925
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 3: He was talking about keeping his original long term trainer

1926
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 3: ound as an assistant and just bringing on a new guy.

1927
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 3: It seems smart considering now we've seen Joshua come up

1928
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 3: empty on the big stage twice now against Ruiz but

1929
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 3: he avenged it and now against Usik. I'm surprised by this, Luke,

1930
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 3: because Robert Garcia is certainly one of the top, you know,

1931
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 3: three or four best trainers in the game, and from

1932
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 3: a celebrity coach standpoint, one of the biggest names, no doubt.

1933
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: But Robert Garcia is an aggressive coach. You know, It's

1934
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 3: not that he can't add craft to somebody in sharpen

1935
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 3: up somebody's boxing. He's had a history of almost being

1936
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 3: a celebrity trainer for hire, where you bring him on,

1937
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 3: he kind of helps you improve. But Robert Garcia fighters

1938
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 3: go after it. You know, he trains Virgil Ortiz Junior,

1939
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 3: the unbeaten welter Wade. You know, he's trained Mikey Garcia

1940
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,799
Speaker 3: as the younger brother. But this is gonna be interesting

1941
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 3: to see what this does to Joshua's game, Because, Luke,

1942
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 3: when you look back at that very competitive but clean

1943
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 3: win for Usak over him in the first fight, you know,

1944
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 3: I thought that Anthony Joshua was far too willing to

1945
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 3: try to trust his own boxing ability, especially late in

1946
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 3: that fight against a wizard. You know, in boxing, a Usik,

1947
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 3: who you know, it wasn't gonna be highly possible that

1948
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 3: Usik was gonna come in there with power punches and

1949
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 3: knock Joshua out. Although credit to Usik, he lent it

1950
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 3: some big ones early that changed the tenor of the fight.

1951
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 3: Usik's in there to try to outbox you. Joshua was

1952
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: the bigger guy, the bigger puncher by far. We need

1953
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:25,879
Speaker 3: to see a more offensive, aggressive attack. Maybe Robert Garcia

1954
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 3: is that right coach. So it's gonna be fun to

1955
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 3: see how quickly they can adapt to each other and

1956
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 3: whether changes can be made. Because Luke, as much as

1957
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 3: we all love Usik Pofer pound ranked former under just

1958
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 3: beed a cruiseweight champion. Look what he just went in

1959
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 3: there and did the upset Dude. He had to take

1960
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 3: some big shots to get there. He even said so

1961
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 3: afterwards that you know, I had to really bite down.

1962
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 3: Can he do that again? Can he be the wizard

1963
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 3: the same way again? If AJ's more willing to bite down,

1964
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 3: sit down on his punches and let those big combinations go. Dude,

1965
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 3: this rematch is going to be fun to watch. And

1966
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 3: I know that they were targeting it for July twenty

1967
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 3: third in Saudi Arabia. The latest rumors reports are saying

1968
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 3: maybe more toward August. But this is going to be

1969
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 3: a big fight, and I think this is a very

1970
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 3: interesting wrinkle to the storyline to add into it as

1971
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 3: AJ tries to for the second time reclaim the titles

1972
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 3: that he lost.

1973
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 2: Okay, as we mentioned, Brian Garcia is gonna fight Javier

1974
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 2: Fortuna July sixteenth, let's just move on from that. I

1975
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: don't really care that much. Lastly, WBO, it's a fine fight,

1976
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: but WBO orders Jermel Charlo Damel just unified obviously against

1977
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 2: Brian Costainos. He has all the belts in that weight class.

1978
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 2: He's the undisputed guy, and they've ordered him to fight.

1979
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: The WBO has Tim Zu the guy you have a

1980
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 2: phoner for from here to hanover BC. Is he going

1981
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 2: to fight Tim Zuo or is he just going to

1982
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: dump the belts and go to one sixty.

1983
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, But this is not that this was

1984
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 3: unexpected news. This was expected that Zoo along with Sebastian

1985
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 3: Frondora are have you know, acquired their mandatory stake at

1986
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 3: a shot at the titles. But yeah, it comes down

1987
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 3: to which direction is Damel going. So his brother Jamal,

1988
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 3: who's gonna fight Machi Celechki on showtime in a couple

1989
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 3: of weeks, already said he's gonna move up to one

1990
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 3: sixty eight afterwards and sort of tease that his brother

1991
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 3: might move up to one sixty. Luke, I think that's

1992
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 3: gonna be the direction for the ascially the older names

1993
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 3: at one fifty four to go up to sixty. We

1994
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,799
Speaker 3: just saw Arislandi Laard do it. Julian Jay Rock Williams

1995
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 3: told us during Saturday's broadcast that he's considering it. I'm

1996
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 3: sure Jared swift Herd is probably gonna be a middle

1997
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 3: eight before long. But there are two big marketable fun

1998
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 3: fights for Charlo if he wants to stay there, knowing

1999
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,879
Speaker 3: the competitor he is, knowing the potential because of Zu's

2000
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 3: you know, historical name and certainly the big fan base

2001
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 3: from Australia. Dude, that that could be a big event.

2002
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 3: I'm really hoping Jermal stays put here and handles his

2003
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 3: business because Fondora has really surprised us to knocked out

2004
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 3: ericson Lubin to get to this point. And Tim Zu,

2005
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 3: you know, he took some damage but he walked through

2006
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 3: Terrell Goshet in his US debut to show us that

2007
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 3: he's common. He's you know, is he as good as

2008
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 3: we thought he was a I'm not sure, but he's coming.

2009
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 3: If this fight can be made, it's truly up to

2010
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 3: Dremel at this point, Luke, this is a big deal.

2011
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,759
Speaker 3: This is a big fight. And given the style Jermeil

2012
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 3: showed against Kastanio that he can stand in there in

2013
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 3: trade in in out bully the bully. There's gonna be

2014
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 3: an action fight, Luked, There's gonna be nothing but an

2015
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 3: action fight. Because Tim he said, Timsu was in the crowd,

2016
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 3: and after the Castano fight he said, not only do

2017
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 3: I want Jermel, but you know my style, I'm a zombie.

2018
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep walking through whatever I have to.

2019
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun as shit, Luke.

2020
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 2: Should be a lot of fun. All right. That is

2021
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,839
Speaker 2: our topics, BC. It's time for your feces.

2022
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 3: BC's feces, all right, Luke. Usually on Monday, what we

2023
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 3: do is we sky with the globe. By the way,

2024
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 3: you know, I have Jake the documentarian en route on

2025
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 3: the way to my house right now, Luke.

2026
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 2: Oh, is he is today the MTV Cribs episode?

2027
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 3: I think it is. I think it is. Yeah, So

2028
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens with that. Also, Luke, before we

2029
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 3: get into the shit, PFL six announced their July first

2030
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 3: card main event, Kayla Harrison versus Julia Bud and what

2031
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 3: could be on paper Kayla's toughest fight to date.

2032
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 2: You care, She's probably gonna beat the show of Julia Bud.

2033
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Bud just lost in her PFL debut

2034
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 3: against Jenne Fabian, who Caleb beat one round. So who knows, Luke? Probably?

2035
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, I go and I find a lot

2036
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 3: of shit and I put it together and then I

2037
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 3: make you react to it. They call it. Have you

2038
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 3: seen this shit? Thank you? Yeah? There it is there,

2039
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 3: It is all right, yep, all right, I just gotta

2040
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 3: find it here for a second. All right, here we go.

2041
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,600
Speaker 3: We got the ship here, Luke. We talked about it

2042
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 3: Tank versus Roy in Brooklyn over the weekend showtime pay

2043
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 3: per view. Check out this ringside angle of the stoppage.

2044
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 3: I had some questions in the moment if David Fields

2045
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 3: pulled the trigger too early on Roly, but from this view, dude,

2046
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 3: you can see how wobbly he really was.

2047
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he sent him face first. He caught him

2048
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 2: in between punches, which was amazing, in between steps and

2049
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 2: you could see him. Look at his legs. Bro, yeah

2050
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 2: those are He looks like he looks like someone who

2051
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,600
Speaker 2: like a newborn giraffe trying to ski. Like, no, it

2052
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:05,600
Speaker 2: ain't gonna happen for you.

2053
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 3: Uh, Luke, speaking a really real quick do you think

2054
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 3: he bought himself some big fights with this, with this

2055
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 3: overall showing with his mid.

2056
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 2: I mean the thing is he overperformed relative to what

2057
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 2: I thought was possible. But let's say this, he performed

2058
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 2: well through five rounds and then he sold it bigger

2059
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 2: than it was gonna be by saying completely outrageous shit

2060
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 2: and showing you his third nipple. But uh, yeah, he

2061
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 2: probably did well.

2062
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 3: One thing really was wrong about was he predicted a

2063
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 3: KO one on the first punch. He also predicted this

2064
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 3: would look a lot like Adrian Broner versus Marcos my

2065
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 3: Donna with him playing the role of my Donna. Turns out, Luke,

2066
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 3: it looks a lot like it looks a lot like

2067
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 3: he played the role of Broner in that Madonna fight.

2068
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 3: It was kind of a perfect comparison.

2069
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah it is, uh it is. Yeah, buddy, when

2070
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 2: you least expect it, you're gonna get. You're gonna get

2071
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 2: Meme too.

2072
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 3: Yep. Virtually identical Mike Goldberg, exactly. Luke. Also on this undercart,

2073
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 3: shout out the nine year old Aris Londi. Laura at

2074
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 3: middleweight now with a secondary title. Dude, he put it

2075
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 3: on that curly mustached Spiko Sullivan. Did you see this footage, Luke?

2076
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, watch watch watch Sullivan use his left hand. Sorry,

2077
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 2: this is not the one, No, that's a different one.

2078
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 2: But there's a second knockdown he gets him with where

2079
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 2: he uses his right hand. He sticks it in Sullivan's

2080
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 2: face and then Sullivan keeps using the same left hand

2081
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 2: to Perry, and so he just waits for the next

2082
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 2: Perry to come to bring the hand down, then fires

2083
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 2: the cross right right in front of him and drills

2084
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 2: him and that's what ultimately got the stoppage. It was

2085
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 2: a nice It was a nice shot. Laura can still box. Bro. Also,

2086
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 2: Laura and I have the same idea about female companions,

2087
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 2: about what we're looking for. Shouts theres Londy Laura.

2088
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, Luke, I don't know if we have sound

2089
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 3: from this. I think I forgot to tell him to

2090
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 3: put sound on it. But here's Ryan Garcia sitting behind

2091
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 3: Eryl Spence before the start of the Roly fight. Let's

2092
01:36:54,520 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 3: go to the soundny K, I got on, Yeah, okay, tomorrow, alright.

2093
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 2: Why is he wearing a tuxedo in like the fourth row?

2094
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 2: What is he doing?

2095
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 3: Apparently right, guy uh has a lot of money to

2096
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 3: throw around, Luke, because that doesn't look like that twenty

2097
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 3: k worked out for We see Danny Garcia's face. He

2098
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 3: was like, really really bro, all right, there you go, Luke,

2099
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 3: is tough for some regional mma. Bullshit? Did you see this?

2100
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 3: Cam ten was the name of the card, Juan Olevera

2101
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 3: putting it on David Herrera.

2102
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,839
Speaker 2: Dude, Oh, stiffened him up with that knee.

2103
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 3: Wow, that was like a front standing soccer kick to

2104
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 3: the face.

2105
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 2: Luke. Oh, Jesus, this boy can't stay out of the clinch.

2106
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, he's just getting Oh there you go. Thank

2107
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 2: that referees is good lord.

2108
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 3: It looked like it looked like Anderson Silver versus Rich

2109
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 3: Franklin one and two.

2110
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 2: Luke together a little bit.

2111
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was gross. All right, Hey, this from two

2112
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 3: weeks ago. I forgot to put it on. Let's go

2113
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 3: to one championship. You're talking about the Rutolo brothers. Here's

2114
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 3: Caid Rutolo taking the using the cage to take the back.

2115
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 3: Do they call this a showtime submission, Luke.

2116
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, Bro, that's pretty amazing. And that was

2117
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,759
Speaker 2: shinya Alki shinya Aki. Everyone's like, oh, he's amazing at submissions.

2118
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, a MMA against these pro grappler types,

2119
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna get very far. And the rual Tolo

2120
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 2: brothers are pretty amazing. That was awesome. And you can

2121
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 2: see he had to throw the arm by to get

2122
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 2: to the back while he kicks off the cage and

2123
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 2: as their left arm the right arm he has to

2124
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 2: throw by. He throws it by and catches it. Boy,

2125
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 2: that is a that is slick, super legit.

2126
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 3: These brothers, Luke, Are they gonna be like, we're gonna

2127
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 3: be talking about them on the show in the next

2128
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 3: next Yeah, yes, I.

2129
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 2: Mean because they're of their relative youth, they don't have

2130
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 2: any super super high level accomplishments at the black belt level.

2131
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: When I say super, I mean like worlds or ADCC.

2132
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 2: Munjiao's are ADCC. But I think that's coming. I think

2133
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 2: they've won some panams Uh competition in the black in

2134
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 2: the black belt division, but most of their best stuff

2135
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 2: comes at brown belt down by virtue of age, and

2136
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 2: so I think this next few years is going to

2137
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 2: be the Ruo Tolo era.

2138
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 3: I think, all right, I skipped over, let's go back

2139
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 3: to it. Ks W seventy. The legend Poosia was back

2140
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 3: Luke in his mid forties doing Marty Yus Pujinowski type shit.

2141
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 2: Look at this, See that he thought he was gonna

2142
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 2: hit the overhand right for the second time. He throws

2143
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 2: the overhand right as a fake or it's like a

2144
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 2: set up anyway, and then instead of going over, comes

2145
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 2: under uh. And there was also a feint with the jab,

2146
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 2: so he brings his hand out and that was all

2147
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:32,799
Speaker 2: she wrote.

2148
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 3: That was all aggressiveness of those back tattoos, to the

2149
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,799
Speaker 3: temporary tatts to to advertise Luke. They love that in Poland.

2150
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 2: It's not just look he's got one over his chest

2151
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 2: as well. Oh you mean about Materila. I thought he

2152
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 2: had a rash guard on Jesus Christ. That's his real advertisement.

2153
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 3: I mean that that that you know, people shout out

2154
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 3: to the early boxing two thousands pay per views, where

2155
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 3: like Bernard Hopkin would have Goldenpalace dot Com on his back.

2156
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, UFC guys did it briefly. There was It's a

2157
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 2: brief era where I could be wrong, but I think

2158
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 2: Rico Rodriguez did it for one UFC fight and then

2159
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 2: UFC was like, no fucking way we're allowing this, which

2160
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 2: you know, I don't really agree with him principle, but

2161
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 2: I will say in practice, well here for example, BC,

2162
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 2: I don't share your opinion about how like clean the

2163
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 2: uniform look is, but it probably is better to get

2164
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: fake tattoos off of the backs and chest of your athletes.

2165
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll grant that one.

2166
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 3: So Rico Rodriguez told me when I interviewed him ahead

2167
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 3: of his BKFC fight a couple of years ago, luke

2168
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 3: that it was UFC told them no advertisements because they're

2169
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 3: fighting at the Mohican Sun, so no advertisements of any

2170
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 3: other casinos. And then he showed up for the fight

2171
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 3: with the Golden Palace on the back, and he says

2172
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 3: he was blacklisted by Dana White in that moment, and

2173
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 3: that's why they never talk about him historically.

2174
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 2: Again maybe so that might be true.

2175
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 3: Quickly on, Jervante added all those stomach and chest tats, Luke,

2176
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 3: I don't have a picture of him here. He also

2177
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 3: added his daughter's name around his brow right here. Did

2178
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 3: you like the additions to Javonte's inc.

2179
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 2: He's got about what I would call best case scenario

2180
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 2: for face tattoos. What I mean by that is he

2181
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 2: got has it right around the jaw line and then

2182
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 2: over like hidden arches, so it kind of it blends

2183
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: in a little bit, right It doesn't Like it's not

2184
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 2: like like post malone or stitches the rapper who would

2185
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 2: just write shit on their face like a toddler, just

2186
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 2: you know, fucking not looking and writing on the walls

2187
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 2: when when mom and dad aren't around. His is a

2188
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 2: little bit more artistic.

2189
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you do? Are you shameless enough to get

2190
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 3: a poojia level temporary tat on your face to advertise

2191
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 3: a potential product during this show?

2192
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 4: Like?

2193
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 3: Would you wear you know, like Delta eight sponsorships over

2194
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 3: like right here for like one episode? Uh?

2195
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I would, And I hope everyone who's involved in

2196
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 2: the sales department is watching this.

2197
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 3: You're like, if they pay me with product, by the way,

2198
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 3: we've got, We've got they want to work with us.

2199
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 3: Can we make this deal happen?

2200
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 2: I know, dude, there are real There are Delta eight

2201
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 2: suitors out there, and right now everyone involved with the

2202
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 2: show is dropping the.

2203
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 3: Ball the Tom brand folks. Let's do it all right,

2204
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 3: Luke watched the Chicago Cubs catcher here doing a little

2205
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 3: how's your father here to the batter.

2206
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 2: This is how I greet BC every time I see him.

2207
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 3: It actually is true. You always put your hand on

2208
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 3: my thigh. I don't know if you if you're like,

2209
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 3: you know, if you're you're testing the waters to see

2210
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 3: if all bang bros. But I won't, Luke, I won't. Okay,

2211
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 3: thank you, Luke. Let's rate Let's play a game called

2212
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 3: rate this gym behavior. Okay, let's start off with this

2213
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,679
Speaker 3: with this creative home gym idea.

2214
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 2: I hope this guy gets electrocuted in parallel.

2215
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 3: What's the difficulty level, hair.

2216
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 2: Luke times a thousand. But it's like, Dude, this is

2217
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 2: the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life. I

2218
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 2: really hope this guy hurts himself. I mean that sincerely.

2219
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 3: All right, your thoughts on Clarissa Shields, who recently got

2220
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 3: married to Jim owner Tony Rich, showing on on ig

2221
01:42:58,800 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 3: how couples work out.

2222
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 2: Let's yeah, I saw this, and I nearly blocked him

2223
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 2: for it, Luke.

2224
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 3: When I worked out with you in Miami during the

2225
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 3: filming of MK Doc Number five, you didn't suggest this, Luke,

2226
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 3: funny enough, we.

2227
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 2: Should we should do this next time.

2228
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 3: We should do that.

2229
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, dude, if I went to the

2230
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 2: gym and people were doing this, I mean, I'm gonna

2231
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 2: do one of two things. I'm either going to complain

2232
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 2: to the manager or just cancel my membership right there.

2233
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 2: I mean I thought I.

2234
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 3: Thought openly masturbate was gonna be the third one, Luke,

2235
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:32,600
Speaker 3: But apparently not.

2236
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 2: All right, only if Clarissa Shields was with a with

2237
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 2: a with a female friend. But the point I'm trying

2238
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 2: to make here is, you know, this is the kind

2239
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 2: of ship. It's like, if this is a private gym,

2240
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 2: then you obviously do what the fuck you want. But

2241
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 2: if I go into a public gym or you know, whatever,

2242
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 2: one where anybody can come in, uh, and you're doing this.

2243
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:50,839
Speaker 2: I mean, you deserve to be beaten with a barbell.

2244
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing here?

2245
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 3: I think that's actually coursu fiance. I don't think they're

2246
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 3: married yet.

2247
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, but I'm just it's

2248
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,520
Speaker 2: not like it's not I don't mind a couple being affectionate.

2249
01:43:58,680 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 2: Can you not do it in the middle of the

2250
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 2: fuck gym?

2251
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 3: That's sort of move to Maybe that was after hours.

2252
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 3: Maybe that was an only fans video.

2253
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it was. I don't know.

2254
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 3: Let's stay in the gym. What do you think about

2255
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 3: this perpendicular clean lift?

2256
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 2: Luke? So this is a Jefferson clean.

2257
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 3: This looks like you gotta be strong as shit.

2258
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 2: Dude, What the fuck is he doing? That's not a

2259
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 2: perpendicular clean. This is called stunt lifting. So there is

2260
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 2: something called the uh what's it called. I think it's

2261
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 2: called the Steinborn squad where they take these giant heavy

2262
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 2: like they're not forty five pounds weights, but there's like

2263
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 2: these spherical weights on either side, and you do it

2264
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 2: with the barbell standing parallel to you, and then you

2265
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 2: lean and then you bring it up and then you

2266
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 2: sort of set it on the other side. That's called

2267
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 2: a Steinborne squad. That's real. But this shit is just like, Hey,

2268
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 2: let me do some dumb shit for Instagram lifting where

2269
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blow my back out and be paralyzed from

2270
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 2: the waist down from age twenty five on. Stop doing

2271
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 2: win this shit.

2272
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 3: It reminds me of when Iron Chic in the early

2273
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 3: ladies would have those Persian clubs and he'd be swinging

2274
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 3: them and nobody else could lift them.

2275
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 2: Luke, yet like Thor's motherfucking hammer bro.

2276
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 3: Oh, Luke, I don't know the CFL football player's name,

2277
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 3: but he does some theatrical lifting online. What do you

2278
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 3: think about this barbell backflip move. He's athletic, dude, that's

2279
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 3: impressive as hell.

2280
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, he's athletic. That is. I can't see if

2281
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: those are ten kilos or ten pounds, but either way,

2282
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 2: sixty to eighty pounds on the on the bar bell,

2283
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:45,719
Speaker 2: which I guess is sort of helping him with his rotation,

2284
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 2: but to hold it and land the fucking you know

2285
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 2: flip there is, Dude, he's an athlete. That's a real

2286
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 2: athlete right there.

2287
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 3: And Luke, it is lake season right I was at

2288
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 3: the lake last night. Only I didn't bring my waits

2289
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 3: with me. Check out this guy's dedication.

2290
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 2: I just hate this shit. I hate all this shit.

2291
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 2: I hate all of these guys. I hate this whole

2292
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 2: stupid bro culture of Like, let me lift something inadvisably

2293
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 2: heavy in the worst possible fucking ways because it might

2294
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 2: get five extra clicks on Instagram. I hope all of

2295
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 2: these guys get paralyzed from the ways down.

2296
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 3: Do they do that at zoos culture?

2297
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 2: Luke the Bradley Martin Jim, I've never been. I've never been.

2298
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. Great Jim, Yeah, probably, Luke.

2299
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 3: Do you ever wonder why parasailing has weight limits?

2300
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm about to oh this poor fuck ah, this chubby bastard.

2301
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus Christ, it looks like they're trying to skin

2302
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 2: a cow just by rubbing it.

2303
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh boy, we don't have lift off, Luke. Yes, yes,

2304
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 3: it's all right, that's great.

2305
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean he looks like he has two different bodies.

2306
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 2: And not saying his legs are super skinny. Go back

2307
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 2: to real quick. I'm not saying his legs are super skinny,

2308
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 2: but his legs look like they're a different person that

2309
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 2: just like, I mean, look at the up I mean that.

2310
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 2: You know, my man's got some muffin top there. You

2311
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 2: know I'm not gonna lie.

2312
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a few raspberries now on his legs

2313
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 3: after being dragged across that state park. Luke, that's great, Luke.

2314
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 3: I got a new segment for you in this here's

2315
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 3: some new combat sports ideas that are floating around. All

2316
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 3: I need from you are a ya or a nay

2317
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 3: in terms of your interest in watching first nay, nay, No,

2318
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 3: it doesn't do it for you.

2319
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 2: Listen. I don't want to deny them the opportunity to

2320
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 2: do it, but my interest level in it is low.

2321
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 3: Oh there's a guy down, I mean, come on, yeah,

2322
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 3: that's a so if you knock him out of the chair,

2323
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 3: do you wind?

2324
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 2: Dude? This is gonna get me into territory where I'm

2325
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 2: making fun of people with disabilities and I don't want

2326
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 2: to do that.

2327
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, you're an a on this next one, Luke.

2328
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 3: I think they call this medieval mm. These Renaissance fair

2329
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 3: bastards love this ship.

2330
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah again, Two guys living with their parents who are

2331
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 2: just fail sons, two absolute fucking losers of the highest order.

2332
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 2: Both of them should be impaled and then dragged like

2333
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 2: that fat guy across the lake.

2334
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 3: All right, let's move out here. Yeah, you're nay to

2335
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 3: the PFC, Luke, the pillow Fight Championships.

2336
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 2: A lot of board people out here, bro, a lot

2337
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 2: of board people out here. They got nothing to do.

2338
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 3: Oh shit, oh shit, look at that. Now we've got

2339
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 3: a real fight.

2340
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna hugg it out. Now they're gonna hug it out.

2341
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 3: They might bang.

2342
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 2: I don't know they do. I mean, that's that's the

2343
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 2: worst fight with no punches being thrown in human history.

2344
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,639
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, wow, Okay, one more for you. I think

2345
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,560
Speaker 3: we should probably call this boat boxing, Luke. It's I

2346
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 3: don't know if it's gonna catch on.

2347
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 2: Again. My only way I'd watch this is if both

2348
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 2: participants are drowned afterwards.

2349
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 3: Oh right, well, speaking of boating, Luke, it is outdoor,

2350
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 3: Boat says, And you know the rules. Don't drink and

2351
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 3: drive and don't drink and boat.

2352
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 2: Oh you're going into the drink, old man.

2353
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 3: See you a couple too many of them white claws, Luke,

2354
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 3: that'll do it to you.

2355
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 2: Wow yeah, good yeah, good boy. Look at the balance

2356
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 2: on this fucking gymnast. He can't even take a step

2357
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 2: down without just collapsing into the earth.

2358
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 3: Let's move on. Unfortunately, this boat user Luke will not

2359
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 3: be fothering any children, but he did make our show,

2360
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 3: so shout out to him just the same.

2361
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, get fucked, loser, get fucked. How was that? This

2362
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 2: is BC's three needles moment right here?

2363
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 3: Yeah it is, it is indeed. And then this happy

2364
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,600
Speaker 3: couple Luke, while on their yacht, challenged each other to

2365
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 3: a shotgun beer guzzle.

2366
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,480
Speaker 2: Not really, They're having a truly.

2367
01:49:58,120 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 3: Gets you right?

2368
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this is what should happen every time. This

2369
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 2: is actually a best case scenario.

2370
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 3: You ever have any dates that ended like that? Looke?

2371
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 2: I wish?

2372
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on. Hey, Mike Tyson Luke, we

2373
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 3: know his h he can he can tear it up

2374
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 3: in the boxing ring, the podcast ring, the one man

2375
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 3: show ring, the weed ring. How about the basketball court?

2376
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 3: Did you see Tyson out here making a rain?

2377
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 2: Is that a five foot hoop? I mean, what is that?

2378
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 3: Look at that line? Drive shot. I'm not gonna tell

2379
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 3: him it's bad for him, Luke.

2380
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not.

2381
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm not.

2382
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:40,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if Mike was there, I'd be like, Yo, Mike,

2383
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 2: how come you're not in the NBA, but within the

2384
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 2: safe distance. From a safe distance, I'm like, that's like

2385
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 2: a five foot hoop. Bro.

2386
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like Bill cart writes you in that

2387
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 3: that's that's a little bit gross. But yay, Mike can

2388
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,640
Speaker 3: do it all. He's he's the best. What do you

2389
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 3: think is in his system during that video.

2390
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 2: Luke, I think there's probably a little bit of blood

2391
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 2: in his THHC system.

2392
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 3: Right, uh looke going out for dinner. You do have

2393
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 3: to be careful based on your hair situation. This poor bastard.

2394
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 3: Oh boy, that's not the right way, dude.

2395
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 2: I worked for a guy who had an obvious to pay.

2396
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 2: And when I say an obvious one, I mean like this,

2397
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 2: like there would be no other way a human could

2398
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 2: look at that and be like, oh that's natural, and

2399
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 2: you just you look at him and you're like, dude,

2400
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 2: what is it you see in the mirror where this

2401
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 2: is the best available option to you? And the worst

2402
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 2: part was that guy was rich, like he could afford

2403
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 2: you know, hair plugs or whatever the fuck they do

2404
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 2: for these people. You see Francis and Gan, who's getting

2405
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 2: all all that stuff done.

2406
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 3: Oh yes, he's getting that Lebron hair plug.

2407
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's getting all the hair plugs and it's like,

2408
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 2: good for him because that's what he wants. It's it's

2409
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 2: great like the people who wear two pays. I'm like, dude,

2410
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,719
Speaker 2: that's a very nineteen twenty solution to this problem.

2411
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair. But summertime also means fun by

2412
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 3: the pool, Luke, So you know where this is heading?

2413
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 3: You ever?

2414
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 2: Have you ever do you have a pop up outdoor dude?

2415
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 2: A white person who's a big girl in an above

2416
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 2: ground pool. This is going poorly from the word go.

2417
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 3: Yep, oh boy, Well that's the fat lady she I

2418
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 3: don't know if she's saying, but let's check out this

2419
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:13,560
Speaker 3: fat guy on the roof. You know, if you're a

2420
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 3: fat guy and you're on a roof and there's a

2421
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 3: pool nearby, you're gonna end up in this show.

2422
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you better, Yeah, you better get the crutches, motherfucker.

2423
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Just dude, look at the dub t is

2424
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 2: this Jay Aaron with the white sunglasses? Who is this?

2425
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 3: He looks like the teacher and Billy Madison, doesn't he?

2426
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 2: Luke? I mean, dude, and what is that a chicken

2427
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,839
Speaker 2: coop behind him? He's on the roof of a chicken

2428
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 2: coop jumping into an above ground pool. I mean that's

2429
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 2: just the epitome of dub t.

2430
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, let's keep it moving here with

2431
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 3: this pool highjinks, little frisbee on the on the pool

2432
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 3: DECKO is a good time head by all. Congrats dude,

2433
01:52:55,280 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 3: you've been working out. Yeah, all right, that's great. A

2434
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 3: couple more for you, Luke. Let's go to uh, let's

2435
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 3: go to the diving board. Right, what do we got here?

2436
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 3: I don't even know what this is? Oh yeah, more

2437
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 3: rooftop pool action. One bonus one for.

2438
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 2: You break your ankles, pussy yep shit, every one of you. Dude,

2439
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 2: that's the most timid jump off ever.

2440
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not that's he tiptoed it.

2441
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 2: What do you think you're gonna fly? Once you jump?

2442
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 2: You fucking lose her. And by the way, look, want

2443
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 2: to show it one more time. Look at the instructions

2444
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 2: from the guy waving him on clearly sober.

2445
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just do it. You'll make it. You know

2446
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 3: you got enough room. There you go. I mean he

2447
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 3: did make it, all right, Moving on a couple more,

2448
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 3: let's do it. What I don't even know what this is, Luke,

2449
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 3: It says here. Uh yeah, oh yes, yes.

2450
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 2: So she's Roly Romero and the diving board is Tank

2451
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 2: Davis more or less.

2452
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 3: Yes. I hate to laugh at that, Luke, because you know,

2453
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,680
Speaker 3: people get they get, they get hazed over stuff like

2454
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 3: this changes them. But uh yeah, that's hilarious. All right,

2455
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 3: let's go back to some uh regional mma. Do you

2456
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 3: see this white trash white trash match up here, Luke

2457
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 3: with rowdy rooster in the red trunks right there, look

2458
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 3: at it. This is great.

2459
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 2: You know, I hate the jokes when you say, like,

2460
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 2: hey man, who's gonna you know, one of these guys

2461
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 2: is gonna drive the Uber home? But for real, I

2462
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 2: think one of these guys is actually gonna drive the

2463
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 2: Uber home.

2464
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 3: We got we gotta get this guy in the UFC, Luke.

2465
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 2: I'd love to see his bookshelf.

2466
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 3: All right, Uh, Luke, I got one more game for

2467
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 3: you here. It's called how much money would it take

2468
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 3: for you to eat this? I present the food, You say,

2469
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 3: how much money I'd have to pay? All right? This

2470
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 3: one's called the hot dog Calzone.

2471
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: What is that jizz?

2472
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 3: It's mustard? I think, Oh no, oh yeah, that's got

2473
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 3: erotic there, right, Luke.

2474
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 2: Wow, No, that's not erotic. That is fucking nauseating.

2475
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:11,920
Speaker 3: So what would it take.

2476
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 2: Hunger? Like five bucks? I don't know. I probably need it,

2477
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 2: but it is gross five bucks watching that, watching that

2478
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 2: sausage get put in there is fucking gross.

2479
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 3: Okay. Number two? Look, I think they call this banana bread.

2480
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 3: How much would it take for you to eat this?

2481
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 2: The kind of calls that I would get in college,

2482
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:40,879
Speaker 2: being like you have twenty four cents in your bank account?

2483
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 3: All right, let's go on to this. I think they

2484
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 3: called this grilled cheese mac and cheese pizza. Luke, what

2485
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 3: would it take?

2486
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 2: Damn bro? I mean, I've always said it's hard to

2487
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 2: have bad pizza, but these motherfuckers are trying.

2488
01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 3: Mikey says he'll try it for two delta Luke. That

2489
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 3: sounds like a good deal.

2490
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 2: You know what, I probably would too after two delta eights. Yeah,

2491
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 2: that's fair.

2492
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 3: All right. This one's called uh. I think it's a

2493
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 3: bloody Mary of some kind. Maybe it's a hangover special,

2494
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 3: only it's a pretty aggressive one, Luke, would you?

2495
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we're just killing animals for the worst reasons

2496
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 2: ever and then putting firecrackers up their ass. Can you

2497
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 2: imagine the life that this animal had before this, and

2498
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 2: we just fucking ended it so we could shove this

2499
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 2: up its ass like we really are the worst.

2500
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 3: One, Luke, how much would it would we have to

2501
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 3: pay you to Bob for apples here.

2502
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 2: Like snapping turn Oh god, not dude, not for all

2503
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 2: of Jeff Bezos's wealth. Someone throw a toaster in there, please.

2504
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 3: And finally, Luke, you know the old saying smoke them

2505
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 3: if you got them, Rah, rah, look at this hero

2506
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 3: twenty cigarettes at one time? Could you pull this off?

2507
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 2: So I've done this, but not like this. I wish

2508
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 2: I could say I wasn't equally stupid, but I was.

2509
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 2: We got a rubber band and we just took an

2510
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 2: entire pack and shoved them all together, and I was

2511
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 2: able to kind of make it work. It's an awful experiences,

2512
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 2: to be quite clear. I mean, this guy is also

2513
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 2: you know that Tyler here is just living off of

2514
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 2: his dad's wealth. I'm sure his dad is, you know, Looke,

2515
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 2: that's the.

2516
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 3: Ship for this week. We'll push off fan subs until Friday.

2517
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 3: But thank you for enduring that.

2518
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 2: Thank you. It was fun. I like f I like,

2519
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 2: have you seen this shit? It's one of my favorite

2520
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 2: things on the show. Good stuff, all right, you see,

2521
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 2: Just remind everyone we are back on Friday. We will

2522
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 2: have a Friday show. We'll get you ready for all

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Speaker 3: Any final thoughts, Jakes in my driveway, So all.

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Speaker 2: Right, jakeson the driveway with that in mind, Shouts to Jake,

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Speaker 2: shouts to BC, shouts to Malka, CBS Sports and Showtime.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas. We'll catch you guys on Friday, and

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Speaker 2: until then, all of your gains be loyal.