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Speaker 2: let's talk some basketball. So I say out a tweet

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the third quarter reemphasizing a point

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Speaker 2: he tries lobbing it in that direction. Kawhi Leonard gets

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Speaker 2: a big steal. That was what was so unusual about

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Speaker 2: what happened down the stretch. The Denver Nuggets so are

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Speaker 2: Kawhi was just absolutely surgical with his shot making. He

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Speaker 2: was amazing all night. Had just a classic Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon defended that perfectly. On Kawhi's followed through here,

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Speaker 2: because they made it really simple for him. They had

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Speaker 2: did there is they just sent a flasher right to

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Speaker 2: free throw line. That's where he saw Norman Powell run

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Speaker 2: They created an easier read for Kuhi to make, and

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Speaker 2: it was interesting because in those situations he was making

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Speaker 2: was dribbling out above the break when Denver brought the

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Speaker 2: double teams that Kawhi did a lot of what he

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Speaker 2: he had five assists in one turnover tonight to go

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Speaker 2: with the thirty nine points on nineteen shots. Just a

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Speaker 2: unbelievable game from Kawhi Leonard. One of the things we

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Speaker 2: had my optimism surrounding the Clippers. I predicted them to

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Speaker 2: on my beliefs, my core basketball beliefs surrounding their perimeter athleticism,

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Speaker 2: regular season, What if Eata Zubats can do as a

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Speaker 2: other stuff he showed. But one of the things I

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Speaker 2: and the Clippers struggling in twenty twenty. We talk about

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Speaker 2: Kawhi being consistently unavailable from a health perspective in twenty

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Speaker 3: First, he just.

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Speaker 2: Played a playoff game that only a top tier superstar

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Speaker 2: when Kawhi is late when Kawhi is healthy, he is

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Speaker 2: he's busting everybody's ass. I thought the Clippers handled the

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Speaker 2: tic tac toe sequences better. What I'm referring to there

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Speaker 2: is just like the ballscreen attack. When they get two

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Speaker 2: They still botched a couple ones in their baseline cuts.

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Speaker 2: Chris Dunn missed a reverse layup, credit to Aaron Gordon.

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Speaker 2: He had a nice last second contest. But they're still

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Speaker 2: batching some of those like baseline cut finishes that they

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Speaker 2: I can get in those sequences. I thought that there

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Speaker 2: that didn't get converted. There's still a lot of meat

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Speaker 2: is a big part of why even though I picked

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Speaker 2: the Knicks and I still do believe the Knicks will

434
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 2: win the series, I did believe this would be a

435
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 2: long series because the Knicks have their advantages, and specifically,

436
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: Kay Cunningham has found opportunities in ways for him to

437
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: be successful against this team, regardless of the type of

438
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 2: matchup that he's dealing with. Again, the really smart attacks

439
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: like those guard screens with Tim Hardaway Junior, that was

440
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: an excellent way to neutralize some of og Anonobi's physicality

441
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 2: on Kade Dennis Schroeder. I ended up talking a lot

442
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 2: about Dennis this year because he got traded to two

443
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 2: playoff teams. He has his limitations. His jumper is inconsistent.

444
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 2: He's small, so he's somewhat matchup dependent in terms of

445
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: who he can guard effectively. Famously, in the twenty twenty

446
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 2: three Conference Finals, he was basically useless first Jamal Murray

447
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 2: because he was too big and strong, so he could

448
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: just get to his spots and shoot over the top

449
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 2: of him. He's not as fast as he used to

450
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: be back like when he was in Atlanta and he

451
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: could just toast everybody off the dribble all the time.

452
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: But he's one of the best competitors in the game.

453
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Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is that he despises

454
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Speaker 2: losing so much that you can count on him to care.

455
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,959
Speaker 2: I talk about this all the time. I think a

456
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Speaker 2: basketball player, I think a player in the NBA that

457
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: hates losing is actually more valuable than a player in

458
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Speaker 2: the NBA that loves basketball, because the hatred of losing

459
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: will drive you to do the dirty work. Ideally, it's both,

460
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: and the best players in the NBA are both. The Steps,

461
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 2: the Jokich's, the Lebrons, the guys that have run this

462
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 2: league over the course of the last decade. These are

463
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Speaker 2: guys that hate losing and love basketball. But Dennis Schroeder

464
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: is a classic example of one of those dudes that

465
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Speaker 2: despises losing. He has this competitive motor, his fight, his

466
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Speaker 2: willingness to battle his ass off against Brunston every minute

467
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: is on the floor, the ability to be confident in

468
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: a big moment that all stems That all comes back

469
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Speaker 2: to Dennis Schroeder's unrelenting competitive nature and It was a

470
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Speaker 2: reason why I loved rooting for him when he was

471
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Speaker 2: with the Lakers. It's why I told Warriors fans that

472
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Speaker 2: you guys would like him. He just didn't get to

473
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 2: say they're long enough, and he had to be trade filler.

474
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: And I told Pistons fans right after the deal, like,

475
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: if you need a backup guard to be or Jaden

476
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: Ivy temporarily, you can't do any better than Dennis. Schroeder

477
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: has an option in that spot, and like they you know, J. B.

478
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: Bickerstaff closes with him instead of a sar Thompson, which

479
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Speaker 2: I thought was smart. He's very good at making Brunson

480
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 2: work hard for his shots, and he has a little

481
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 2: bit higher floor as an off ball player on offense,

482
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Speaker 2: and he's a guy who can run action late in

483
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Speaker 2: the game. So Kaid runs out of gas late in

484
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Speaker 2: the game and the Pistons needed a bucket, and you know,

485
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: Dennis had to miss a miss on a different shot.

486
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: It was like a little midrange pull up that he missed,

487
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: but he went right at Brunson on that final possession

488
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: and it was a ball screen. He gets to Bias

489
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: Harris on him and he brings Brunson back into the

490
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: screen again, and Brunson really did not want to switch

491
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Speaker 2: back out on Dennis, and so on that second switch,

492
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,239
Speaker 2: Brunson was hanging just a step too far back and

493
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: Dennis just confidently stepped into that shot a huge shot

494
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: in a huge moment in that game, especially when Kay

495
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: Conningham's on the floor and he just stuck it. It was

496
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 2: a big time shot and it ended up literally being

497
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Speaker 2: the difference in the game. We haven't even talked about

498
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Speaker 2: the Pistons defense yet, and I thought their defense was

499
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: fantastic all night. They were flying around in rotation closing

500
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: up openings after putting two on the ball against Brunson.

501
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: They did an excellent job rotating to Cat to take

502
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: away his easy pick and pop and spot up opportunities.

503
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: They really controlled Cat all night. He generated sixteen points

504
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: on one on ones meaning post ups and ISOs.

505
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Speaker 3: In Game one.

506
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Speaker 2: He generated just four tonight. That's a huge difference from

507
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 2: Game one. He didn't even log a single ISO possession

508
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: after logging seven ISOs in Game one, which I thought

509
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: was interesting. I want to dig a little bit into

510
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: the film and try to see where those opportunities were

511
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: missing from Game one. That'll be something we'll take a

512
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: look at tomorrow. But yeah, they controlled Kate. They controlled

513
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: Cat all night. The Pistons did get some help. Oj

514
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 2: And and Obi and Michale Bridges missed some wide open looks,

515
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: like absolutely unguarded looks, especially open like early in the game,

516
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: New York generated seven completely unguarded catch and shoot jump

517
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: shots from Chale, Bridges and Og and and Obi, and

518
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: they made just two of them, and one of them

519
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: was a two pointer. So like, if you generate seven

520
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: unguarded ketch and shoot jumphots from Mkale and Og, you're

521
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: hoping to get twelve points out of that, not five,

522
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: and that ends up being literally the difference in the

523
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: game tonight. Like most of the adjustments for New York

524
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: basically just involve their guys playing better, Like Cat's gotta

525
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: play better. The Calbridge has got two great looks down

526
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 2: the stretch, one on the right wing and one at

527
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: the top of the key, both of them he left

528
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: way short. They need him to knock those shots down.

529
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: Ojan andob Be missing wide open corner threes, not bringing

530
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: the scoring pop that he brought down the tail end

531
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Speaker 2: of the season like they need, Like there's always this

532
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: desire that I've seen since I started covering the league

533
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: to come up with like some magical solution. This is

534
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 2: what we can do. This x's and o's thing that's

535
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: gonna solve all of our problems. And it's like, you

536
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: can try a different matchup here or there, you can

537
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: try running a different action here or there. But because

538
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: in the NBA playoffs everyone does so much more switching

539
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: and all the actions are scouted, it really just comes

540
00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: down to your dudes have to play up to their capability.

541
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Speaker 2: And right now, McHale Bridges, Ojan and Obi and Karl

542
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns are not meeting the moment the way that

543
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: even some of these Detroit Pistons role players are, and

544
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: they just got to be better. They converted spot up

545
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: possessions tonight at zero point four to eight points per possession. Now,

546
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: some of that is the quality of Detroit's rotations. I

547
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: want to give them credit, but these are pros and

548
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: not just pros. These are elite pros on the offensive

549
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: end in oj In and Obi and McHale Bridges. They

550
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 2: need to convert those, They need to convert them at

551
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: a higher clip. And again, I think the Knicks are

552
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: gonna win the series. Over the course of this series,

553
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: the more experienced, more talented veterans will eventually find their footing.

554
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: But this Detroit team's not going anywhere. They've been out

555
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: rebounding them on the offensive glass, and through the first

556
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: two games, Kate is obviously comfortable and getting to where

557
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: he wants to on the floor. They have some physical advantages.

558
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: There are some tough hurdles for the Knicks to cover

559
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: in the series, and they're not going to cover it

560
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: unless they're high paid, highly revered role players on the

561
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: wing can meet the moment and help contribute on the

562
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: offensive end of the floor. All right, let's bring Jackson

563
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: in here and let's get to some of your guys' questions.

564
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: Let's do it. We're gonna start with who has been

565
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: the MVP of the first round so far? And we

566
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: only have basically one game man from every series, but

567
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: still it's a fun question.

568
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: Oh man, that is a very good question. Let's see,

569
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: we've only had one set of Game two so far,

570
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: so I feel like it would have to be somebody

571
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: from tonight's slate, right.

572
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: Man, I think I think.

573
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: I think Kawhi and Steph all give a mutual to

574
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 2: a double award to Kwi and Steph just because like

575
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: those two individual performances, what Kawhi did tonight as a

576
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: shot maker and what Steph did last night, I got

577
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: in trouble with some Warriors fans were like, I always

578
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: get in trouble with Staves for not being nice enough.

579
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: It's like the weirdest thing.

580
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: Like I said to I said last night that Steph's

581
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: performance was one of the better ones in his career,

582
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: which is a pretty innocuous statement, and I just got

583
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: absolutely slayed for it online because he's had so many

584
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: better games, and it's like, first of all, we're gonna

585
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: stop looking at box scores, Like if you watch that game,

586
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: he made eleven out of twelve shots, Like he made

587
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: every single shot out of it, almost every single shot

588
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: out of a dozen incredibly difficult shots in a game

589
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 2: where he was the only guy who could generate offense

590
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: when the entire game plan was built around stopping him.

591
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: As like, it was a remarkable Steph Curry performance. I

592
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: was blown away by it. And then Kawhi every bit

593
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: is impressive tonight for the Clippers. I would go with

594
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: the two of those guys. What do you think, Jay, Yeah?

595
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Speaker 1: I agree, and the chat was saying was had a

596
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: lot of Kawhi, and I think it has to be

597
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: between those two with the way that both those guys

598
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: just rose to the moment from a playoff shot making standpoint,

599
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: and also I really feel like they controlled the game

600
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: beyond just the shot making. It felt like both guys

601
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: completely controlled the pace, the flow. It felt like they

602
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: were getting creating good offense even when it wasn't actually

603
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: just pure jump shot making. So I think it's gotta

604
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: be between those two.

605
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: That's a great.

606
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: Point between the Clippers and Denver, which matchup is more

607
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: difficult for Okay.

608
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: Oh Man, I would go with I would go with Denver.

609
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: I think they have the specific ability to more consistently

610
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: punish their lack of size with Jokic. The Clippers had

611
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: some issues with the Thunder for stretches this year too.

612
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: The Nuggets logged a couple of wins. It's worth mentioning

613
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: their last win involved a little bit of weirdness with

614
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: Jadubb going out with I think a hamstring injury, and

615
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: then they just started double teaming Shay every time he

616
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: crossed half court. But they did hang one forty on

617
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: the thunder defense. In that game they a Denver completely

618
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: blew this game down the stretch.

619
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Speaker 3: Jackson.

620
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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I thought I thought

621
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: Denver was about to go up two oh. And I

622
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: was literally sitting there thinking watching the game. I'm like, man,

623
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: like these guys here they are again. It looked like

624
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: they were dead to rights like like a month ago,

625
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: and now they are looking a lot closer to the

626
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: team that you know, uh, contended for a championship over

627
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. If I was okay, see,

628
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: I'd much rather play the Clippers. I think the Clippers

629
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: lack of playmaking talent would be a disaster against Okayc's

630
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: turnover forcing defense.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the strength of the Thunder defense, I

632
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: mean they got hardened times good and chet is good

633
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: and switchable, But the strength of their defense is just

634
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: how many wing athlete bodies they have to throw at

635
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: every every other skilled offensive player. And I think that

636
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: would be much more effective against a team like the

637
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: Clippers that where you got so many bodies to throw

638
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: at James Harden not I mean, Kawhi is pretty big,

639
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 1: so it's probably just mostly lu Door, but you got

640
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: still a lot of bodies you can throw a kwhi

641
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of swarming that we've seen Kawhi struggle

642
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: with in this series.

643
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: And against a worst rotation team in Denver, not just

644
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: a worst, but like a flat out bad rotation team

645
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: relative to the better teams that we have in the league.

646
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: I want to very quickly credit though, both of them,

647
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: in the sense that I do think both of those

648
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: teams are capable of beating the Thunder. I'm not trying

649
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Speaker 2: to underrate the Clippers. I just personally think Denver's a

650
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Speaker 2: little more capable of the upset there.

651
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Speaker 1: We got a couple of Warriors questions. Is the Warriors

652
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Speaker 1: lack of interior size going to cost them these playoffs?

653
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Speaker 1: Or could step in Jimmy and their defense make up

654
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Speaker 1: for the lack of size.

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Speaker 2: So there's all this talk about size with some of

656
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Speaker 2: these specific teams in the West, Like there's a lot

657
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Speaker 2: of talk about size with Minnesota. It's not Minnesota's size

658
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Speaker 2: that concerns me, it's their athleticism. It's their overall length

659
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Speaker 2: and athleticism. The Thunder or not a team that presents

660
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Speaker 2: substantial size related issues. So there's a vert and the

661
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Speaker 2: Lakers don't either, with exception of Lebron and and Lucas.

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Speaker 2: So like, if god, let's let's let's say Golden State

663
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Speaker 2: beats Houston, you're facing one of Minnesota or the Lakers

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Speaker 2: in the second round. I think the Golden State defense

665
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Speaker 2: is capable of doing much more damage to Minnesota's offense

666
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Speaker 2: than the Lakers defense is capable of doing. And I

667
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: don't think Minnesota's biggs are the types of bigs that

668
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Speaker 2: would do substantial damage to the to the Warriors defense.

669
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Speaker 2: So neither of those teams I think could be particularly damaging.

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Speaker 2: You're probably looking at OKAC in the conference finals, They're

671
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Speaker 2: not a particularly big team, and then coming out of

672
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Speaker 2: the East, you're likely getting Boston, who's not a particularly

673
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Speaker 2: big team. So I I don't want to sit here

674
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Speaker 2: and pretend like it wouldn't be great if the Warriors

675
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Speaker 2: had a little bit more size on the front line,

676
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Speaker 2: but I don't think necessarily it will show up in

677
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Speaker 2: a real damaging way in this West playoff run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think there's a lot of talk

679
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Speaker 1: about size, and there's certain there's certain there's different ways

680
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Speaker 1: that size can manifest. To your point about the Timberwolves

681
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: attacking the offensive glass or something like that, but not

682
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Speaker 1: the size that I think people are critical of the

683
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Speaker 1: Warriors is interior defensive size, and the only way to

684
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Speaker 1: punish that is what if you have someone who can

685
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Speaker 1: actually do that, which not that many teams do anymore.

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Speaker 1: The Thunder are not running a lot of post ups

687
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Speaker 1: because they think the Warriors are small. If they played

688
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Speaker 1: each other, right, like the Nuggets, you can say, yeah,

689
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Speaker 1: and the Clippers, I think would be the two teams

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Speaker 1: that they their centers are problems on the inside if

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Speaker 1: you don't guard them with side, even Draymond, who's as

692
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Speaker 1: good of a defender interior against both those guys Joki

693
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Speaker 1: chan Zu, that's a much more tough challenge on the

694
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Speaker 1: specifically about the size issue than any of the other

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Speaker 1: teams and the rest of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree.

697
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Speaker 2: And your odds of actually facing Jokic r Zoo in

698
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Speaker 2: the conference finals are pretty low because the Thunder will

699
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Speaker 2: be favored, even though we think that those teams can

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Speaker 2: beat the Thunder. I actually my main concern about Golden

701
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Speaker 2: I'm actually curious to see if this matches up with

702
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Speaker 2: your main concern, Jackson. My main concern with Golden State

703
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Speaker 2: actually winning for playoff rounds is consistent offense. It's it's

704
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: like Jimmy Butler hits six jump shots against the Rockets

705
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Speaker 2: last night, Like, is he going to keep hitting six

706
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: jump shots every night? Because if it's not that, they

707
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Speaker 2: don't really have a reliable offensive player beyond Steph, and

708
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Speaker 2: Jimmy's been great so far, but like I have my

709
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: skepticism after how he finished the regular season. So like,

710
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Speaker 2: I think it's more likely that if like Golden State

711
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Speaker 2: gets eliminated at some point in the first three rounds.

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Speaker 2: You and I are sitting here talking about how they

713
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Speaker 2: need more shooting and more like reliable play finishing, not

714
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Speaker 2: necessarily size on the front line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. They they sort of feel like it's

716
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Speaker 1: very different stylistically and even about the way that their

717
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Speaker 1: success comes. But it feels similar to the to the

718
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Speaker 1: Nuggets to me actually a little bit, where it's like

719
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: they're so heliocentric in a different way. It's not like

720
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Speaker 1: Steph is, you know, pounding the ball. Their offense is

721
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Speaker 1: so predicated around actions around one player, and it's like

722
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Speaker 1: that can be really challenging, especially when that player's off

723
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Speaker 1: the floor. But if you're in the game at the end,

724
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Speaker 1: you really feel confident that player is just good enough

725
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Speaker 1: to lift you up over the top. So it's sort

726
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Speaker 1: of a double edged swort of do you have the

727
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Speaker 1: forty seven minutes forty six minutes of enough offense to

728
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Speaker 1: get you there when? Because in the last two you

729
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Speaker 1: feel real even though it didn't work out that way

730
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Speaker 1: for the Nuggets tonight, you feel relatively confident that your

731
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Speaker 1: singular player is going to lift you over the top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this is why I'm so interested in

733
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Speaker 2: the Cam Johnson piece, because like, and I mean, who knows,

734
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Speaker 2: he could be a pipe dream for the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: But I there's a very specific reason why Jimmy Butler

737
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Speaker 2: fits so well in this system, and it's because he's

738
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Speaker 2: such a great read and react player that can play

739
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Speaker 2: off of Steph And yeah, they can have him take

740
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Speaker 2: a random ISO possession here or there, but he's pretty

741
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Speaker 2: efficient in those situations because of his ability to hit

742
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Speaker 2: mid range jump shots and his ability to get to

743
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Speaker 2: the foul line. And like, Jimmy can do it, you know,

744
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 2: four or five times in a game, and it feel

745
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: like it happens in the flow of the offense, and

746
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Speaker 2: it's not as disruptive as it can be, like when

747
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: sometimes Kamingo will hijack a possession to disrupt the flow

748
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Speaker 2: of the offense. But a guy like Cam Johnson is

749
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Speaker 2: the type of player that could legitimately, like score twenty

750
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Speaker 2: points a game entirely in the flow of the Warriors offense,

751
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Speaker 2: while also being a guy who was trusted with the

752
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: primary point of attack assignment a lot for Brooklyn this

753
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: year and actually showed some real defensive chops. So like

754
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Speaker 2: as a big picture goal for the Warriors, yeah, like,

755
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Speaker 2: I like to put it simply, and we can kick

756
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Speaker 2: this back to you here before we get to the

757
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Speaker 2: next question. Would you rather have a legitimate center that

758
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Speaker 2: fits the goal of this team as a starting caliber

759
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Speaker 2: center or would you rather have Cam Johnson?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I think definitely Cam Johnson. He's in almost every

761
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Speaker 1: way a knockoff prime Klay Thompson. It almost every way.

762
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Speaker 1: And if you insert that guy back into this system,

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Speaker 1: and then with Jimmy Butler still in the it's a

764
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Speaker 1: much it's a very diverse set of ways you can

765
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Speaker 1: score the basketball.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, YEP, I totally agree.

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Speaker 1: All right, I like this question. Getting back to tonight's game,

768
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Speaker 1: do you think tonight showed David Adelman's inexperience with the

769
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Speaker 1: way he was setting in the fourth quarter. Couldn't tell

770
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Speaker 1: if he was overthinking or second guessing. I do think

771
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Speaker 1: to be fair to David Adelman, it seemed like Michael

772
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Speaker 1: Porter Junior did get hurt at the.

773
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Speaker 3: End of the game.

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Speaker 1: But I think the question about Adaman's inexperience feelsr relevant.

775
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Speaker 2: I think he's done fine to this point. I think

776
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: he's pushed the right buttons. I thought closing with Russ

777
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: was the right move in game one. I thought closing

778
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: with MPJ was the right move tonight, And when you

779
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Speaker 2: factor in the mistake that Michael made and the injury,

780
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: it made sense to go back to Russ late. I

781
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: didn't necessarily have a problem with any of those moves.

782
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Speaker 2: He had the quick hook with Russ after he had

783
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Speaker 2: that bad turnover along the left sideline, like I think

784
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Speaker 2: he's been managing. Like at a certain point we got

785
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: to blame the players, like Aaron Gordon smoked it dunk,

786
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior coughed the ball up in crunch time,

787
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: like like not putting yourselves in the same position when

788
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: when a guy's getting double teamed is like basketball one

789
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Speaker 2: oh one, Like you'll hear yelling about that shit in

790
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: a pickup game or in a high school game, like

791
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: you got, hey, that's spacing one oh one. Make yourself

792
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 2: put yourself in a position where you're not easy to guard.

793
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 2: When you start staying next to each other, you're easy

794
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: to guard. Like so many of the things that happened

795
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: to Denver tonight, where like legitimately self inflicted wounds.

796
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Speaker 1: I agree, and I think the same can be said

797
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Speaker 1: even of Yokic's turnovers, which is relevant to the next question,

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Speaker 1: which is what changes does Jokic need to make to

799
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Speaker 1: to clawback in this series? And I think specifically the

800
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Speaker 1: question is probably about turnovers because he had I think

801
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: seven tonight, and some of them like there was that

802
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: one where he was sort of they were really shading

803
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: the whole the whole defense of that side of the floor.

804
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Speaker 1: Peyton Watson is in the dunker spot ready for a

805
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: lob and Yogic just kind of throws out of bound.

806
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: Like he he has some weird turnovers, very very uncharacteristic

807
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: turnovers tonight.

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Speaker 3: I was screaming at Peyton Watson on that play, like, dude,

809
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Speaker 3: cut you're gonna get a dug.

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Speaker 2: Like he was just this second late, and there was

811
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Speaker 2: like a mile disconnect there where like Jokic threw it

812
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Speaker 2: to where he was like right after he ended up cutting,

813
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Speaker 2: and it's like I saw that play coming a mile away.

814
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Speaker 2: I was like, dude, the dunk is there. Peyton Jokic

815
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Speaker 2: wanted it, he was just was too late on the cut.

816
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Speaker 2: But I mean, yolks will have a game like that

817
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: every once in a while. He had a game with

818
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Speaker 2: seven turnovers in the Minnesota Timberwolve series last year too,

819
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Speaker 2: and they're like, I want to give the give the

820
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: Clippers some credit. They jumped some of the typical passing

821
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Speaker 2: reads that he makes. There's some of them that were

822
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Speaker 2: unforced too, like the one with Peyton Watson. I really

823
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Speaker 2: do think that that one's on Peyton for not cutting

824
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Speaker 2: when Yokis originally saw the play. The one late in

825
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Speaker 2: the game that Kawhi got to steal, that's on Christian

826
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Speaker 2: Brown and Russell Westbrook for like legitimately just doing something

827
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Speaker 2: really stupid. Yeah, but then like, yeah, the one where

828
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Speaker 2: he spun out of the post up and dropped it

829
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Speaker 2: off and Chris Dunn stole it. Like the actual read

830
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Speaker 2: was to the right corner. I can't remember who it

831
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: was that was shooting over there at that spot. I

832
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Speaker 2: think it might have been Michael Porter Junior, but he

833
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Speaker 2: he missed the tic tac toe read for in that

834
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Speaker 2: situation where unmade the rotation and he had to make

835
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Speaker 2: the But like yokscha make mistakes like that every once

836
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Speaker 2: in a while, I'm not. I am infinitely more encouraged

837
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Speaker 2: about Denver and their chances to win this series after

838
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Speaker 2: two games than I was before the first two games.

839
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Speaker 2: So all you Nuggets fans take that for whatever it's worth.

840
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Speaker 2: I used to think you had a pretty small chance

841
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Speaker 2: of winning this series, and now I think you guys

842
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: have a pretty legitimate chance of winning the series.

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Speaker 1: That is a perfect pivot to well, I think it's

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Speaker 1: probably our last question of the night. Are you feeling

845
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Speaker 1: worried about any of your picks? Your series picks? And

846
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Speaker 1: if so, who are.

847
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Speaker 3: Not even worried?

848
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Speaker 1: Is the question? But also, if you were a couple

849
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Speaker 1: one game in for most of the series, two for

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Speaker 1: these two games, are there any series that you would

851
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Speaker 1: change your pick at this point?

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Speaker 2: So let's take a look at it. So Calves magic

853
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: or Calves Heat. I ended up not doing serious previews

854
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: on those ones just because we got so run down

855
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: and we didn't have time. We did like what fourteen

856
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: videos last week, But the Calves Heat series I called

857
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: what four to one or four to zero, that obviously

858
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: is going to stay the same thunder Grizzlies. That one

859
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: I feel relatively certain will be a sweep. I said

860
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: sweep for Celtics Magic. I feel pretty good after Game

861
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: one that Orlando has a good chance to get one

862
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: game just on the strength of their defense and if

863
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 2: Palo and Fronts have really nice games down in Orlando,

864
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: but that obviously could also end in a sweep. Nick

865
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: Pistons is going about as exactly as I expected it

866
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: to to this point. The Pistons clearly showing some ability

867
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: to make the Nicks uncomfortable. But the Pistons now in

868
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: both games have like kind of soiled themselves late and

869
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: they just happened to pull this one out because one

870
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: Denis Schroeder jump shot went in. But I think the

871
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: Nicks will close that one out in six games. Pacers

872
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: bucks very similar to how I felt after Lakers Timberwolves,

873
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: where when I went back and watched the tape, I'm like,

874
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: can someone go up to these guys and tell them

875
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: that it's the playoffs? Like, what the hell are you

876
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: guys doing? And so both of those series, the Pacers

877
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: Bucks series, in the Thunder or in the Lakers Timberwolves series,

878
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: I'll have a much better feel for after Game two,

879
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 2: because I felt it's really hard to tell how teams

880
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: stack up unless they both bring their A game, and

881
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: like Minnesota and Indie brought their a games in Game one,

882
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: and the Bucks and the Lakers kind of tried to

883
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: ease their way into the postseason and that went about

884
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 2: exactly as you could have expected. Denver Clippers, I will

885
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm not going to change my pick yet, but I

886
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: went into the series thinking Clippers and six and feeling

887
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: pretty strongly about that, and internally, I'm feeling closer to

888
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: coin flip now. So that should give you guys a

889
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: general idea of where I stand. I'm never going to

890
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: overreact to the first couple games of a series, but

891
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: I think you can start to learn, Like there was

892
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: there was a big one for me last year. I

893
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: before Luca hit the game winner over go Bear, the

894
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 2: Timberwolves had a two point lead in the final minute

895
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: with a chance to tie the series, and I tweeted

896
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: out the series was over. It was just like abundantly

897
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: clear to me through two games that Luca was infinitely

898
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: more comfortable picking apart Minnesota's defense than Ant was on

899
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: the other end of the floor. And I just didn't

900
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: see anything happening that would change that trend. And what

901
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: do you know, Dallas went into Minnesota in Game three

902
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: and beat them or uh and uh I went up

903
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: three zero, right, So like, I haven't seen anything that

904
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: has changed my mind significantly, but I would say, yeah,

905
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: the the Knicks or excuse me, the Nuggets Clippers one

906
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: is the one that I'm closest to changing my mind

907
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: because I'm feeling closer to fifty to fifty.

908
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think I think the Pistons,

909
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't know something about it, something.

910
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: About it feeling I'm drinking drinking the.

911
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Cad kool Aid a little bit. I'm drinking the Cad

912
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: kol Aid a little bit. It doesn't feel you're theig

913
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Speaker 1: CA guy. I'm a huge kid guy. I'm a huge

914
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: kid guy. It doesn't feel like I mean I was

915
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: texting you about this that yes, not the Pistons almost

916
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: blew that game. But if either of their two very

917
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: good three point shooters, Tim Hardaware Malik Beasley hit anything

918
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: in that game, they would have been up nineteen instead

919
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: of hovering around ten. For the vast majority of the

920
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: second half, those guys were I don't know what they

921
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: finished up when I was texting you about it. At

922
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: one point they were combined one for twelve. You got

923
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: to assume it's a cliche, ha ha ha, the role

924
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: player shoot better at home thing. If it's gonna happen

925
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: for them, it's gonna because some of those guys started

926
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: to hit some shots.

927
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: So well, let me ask you to follow up though, because,

928
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: like my feeling, that game was very much like classic

929
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference knockdown, drag out fight and both teams shot

930
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: in the twenties from three and mkaleen Og missed a

931
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: boatload of good look, so let me ask you this, like,

932
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: who do you think is more likely to get it

933
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: together and bring more offensive punch over the rest of

934
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Speaker 2: the series, mkaleen Og or Malik and Tim Hardaway.

935
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Speaker 1: I mean, mkalen o g I think is the right answer.

936
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Speaker 1: But I feel like process wise, CAID has been more

937
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: effective at generating, which I think is true largely over

938
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: the course of you know, as the two players are

939
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: in general, but he's been largely better at creating better

940
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: looks for his teammates and than Jalen Bruns and our

941
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: cat has for their teammates. The looks that Bridges and

942
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: og have gotten are good enough. They should they should

943
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: make more than their making. But I think the process wise,

944
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: Cad is doing a good job against this against a

945
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: good Knicks defense.

946
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Speaker 2: This is a really interesting take because I'm not sure

947
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: I think I agree with you through two games, Like

948
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: I think Caid has done a better job, and so

949
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: going back to my initial kind of ethos when it

950
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: comes to the playoffs, like which team does a better

951
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: job of making the other team uncomfortable? Like the Pistons

952
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: are doing more to make the Nicks uncomfortable right now

953
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: than the Pistons. I just think the margin is relatively small,

954
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: and I just feel like the Pistons are far more

955
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: likely to blow games over the course of the series,

956
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: and they like to your point, the Pistons basically controlled

957
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: both of those games and damn near lost both of them,

958
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: which right, which is exactly why NBA history tells us

959
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,959
Speaker 2: that teams like the Pistons don't typically win this series.

960
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: But I think I think the point you're making is

961
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: extremely fair, which is through two games, Kate has been

962
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: the better kind of like half court surgeon, so to speak,

963
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: than anybody on the Knicks. Before we get out of

964
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Speaker 2: here tonight, I just wanted to thank you guys. We

965
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: have officially crossed over one hundred thousand subs. There was

966
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: a moment back in October twenty twenty three. We were

967
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: still on the Volumes feed and the Volume feed had like,

968
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: you know, seven hundred thousand subscribers or whatever, and it

969
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: was kind of like a scary moment. Me and by

970
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: producer at the time, Ryan Brumley, still very good friend

971
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Speaker 2: of mine, we kind of had a chat and we

972
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Speaker 2: were like, we were like, do you want to go

973
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Speaker 2: out and like just launch our own channel. And we

974
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Speaker 2: were scared because we were like, if we go out

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Speaker 2: on our own, we could lose some of the juice

976
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Speaker 2: that we get from the Volumes feed in terms of exposure.

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Speaker 2: And we launched that channel from scratch in October twenty three,

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Speaker 2: and here we are eighteen months later at one hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand subscribers, and like you guys came over immediately, like

980
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Speaker 2: we moved most of our audience, like in the first

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Speaker 2: week over from that feed. And all I can say is,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've been doing this for what thirty eight

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Speaker 2: months now with the volume, and I am just completely

984
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: and totally mind blown at the support you guys have

985
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Speaker 2: given the show and what we've actually managed to build

986
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Speaker 2: here and the things that I've gotten to experience over

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00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: the course of the last three years. Like I got

988
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Speaker 2: to this summer go to like Team USA playing against

989
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Speaker 2: Canada in Vegas. It was like one of the coolest

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Speaker 2: experiences of my life. I got to see Steph throll

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Speaker 2: A lob to Lebron James and transition, and like getting

992
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Speaker 2: to be at Summer League and getting to meet the

993
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Speaker 2: people I've gotten to meet and get to talk to

994
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Speaker 2: the people I've gotten to talk to. I just am

995
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: so lucky, and it's because of you guys and the

996
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: support that you've given the show, and this just feels

997
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: like a huge milestone and I'm just I'm not taking

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Speaker 2: it for granted, and I'd love to just let you

999
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: guys know how much I appreciate you guys for supporting

1000
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Speaker 2: me and supporting the show. That's all I have for tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow morning with the film session on

1002
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: tonight's games, and then we'll be back tomorrow night with

1003
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Speaker 2: Game two of Lakers Timberwolves. And you guys might see

1004
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: you very angry and upset Jason tomorrow, we'll see, or

1005
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: you might see a more relaxed, confident Jason. We'll see.

1006
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm really curious to see how the Lakers respond after

1007
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: the game went. But again, I appreciate you guys, and

1008
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Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: What's up, guys.

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Speaker 2: Ares always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting

1011
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Speaker 2: hoops tonight. It would actually be really helpful for us

1012
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: if you guys would take a second and leave a

1013
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Speaker 2: rating and a review. As always, I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 2: supporting us, but if you could take a minute to

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Speaker 2: do that, I'd really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: The volume