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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and here we are. We are ready
Speaker 1: for some football. It's been so long, it's been so
Speaker 1: long since we've been together, It's been so long since
Speaker 1: the Cowboys played a football game, and this is our
Speaker 1: final opportunity to discuss it before Tuesday night football at
Speaker 1: M ANDT Bank Stadium in downtown Baltimore. It's the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and the Ravens, the first Tuesday night football game in
Speaker 1: the history of the Dallas Cowboys. Build Jones with Everson
Speaker 1: Walls and Mickey Spagnola inside the s WBC Mortgage Studio
Speaker 1: at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. Everson, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? First? You know I have been doing
Speaker 1: just fine. Bill. You talked about the extra time that
Speaker 1: we had to miss each other. I missed you guys
Speaker 1: so much. I did some extra research and watch some
Speaker 1: of your shows in the past, and I must say, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm so disappointed in comparison to mix shots. You guys
Speaker 1: look so much better on your other TV shows. I
Speaker 1: must admit. I mean, Spags is, Spags is dressed in
Speaker 1: a suit, looked like he's going to mass He looks
Speaker 1: so good. He speaks better. You know when you read that,
Speaker 1: that stuff that you read for us totally different from
Speaker 1: how you expound on your your your words and things
Speaker 1: on with Kyle is a Kyle and my and my right?
Speaker 1: Is it you and Kyle that on the show together.
Speaker 1: You represent yourself so much better on the show with
Speaker 1: Kyle than you do with us, And I'm so disappointed.
Speaker 1: I saw Bill with Nate Newton and Isaiah and uh,
Speaker 1: your bucket and your hair is combed better on that show.
Speaker 1: You know, you come on with us and you look
Speaker 1: like you just got out of bed there. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got the bad head thing going. I must admit, guys,
Speaker 1: y'all just roll the ball out on this show. I'm
Speaker 1: just you're like, Uh, what's the old coach for Houston Cougars? No,
Speaker 1: Bill Yeoman? Why am I saying Bill Yeoman? They said
Speaker 1: they used to complain about it. They said he just
Speaker 1: threw the ball out there and let Clyde and those
Speaker 1: guys do their thing. Now, this guy didn't roll the
Speaker 1: ball out there on the court, man, I must admit
Speaker 1: it was yeah, guy Lewis, Yeah, you guys just roll
Speaker 1: the ball out now, man, I'm like that. This like
Speaker 1: five slam a jamo on this show. This is a
Speaker 1: podcast talk show. It's not television. Okay, okay, is that
Speaker 1: the difference? Let our hair down, that's right. I can
Speaker 1: just say, screw all of this, all of this cowboy
Speaker 1: and nice stuff I got on, you know, forget the background.
Speaker 1: You know, I could just do anything I see. That's
Speaker 1: what makes this show so much better. So Mickey, yeah, Bloy,
Speaker 1: is it there at the Star in Frisco. I guess
Speaker 1: you're catching a plane for Baltimore's. Oh no, wait, this
Speaker 1: is the year of the cold. Everybody everybody else is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, not Usings though. Um yeah, they were supposed
Speaker 1: to leave. I think Playton was supposed to be wheels
Speaker 1: up at two o'clock today. So they got in their
Speaker 1: morning uh practice, whatever you want to call it. It's
Speaker 1: more of a walkthrough with helmets on. Um. But they
Speaker 1: got that in, did it outdoors and nice day and
Speaker 1: then head to Baltimore and get in about I think
Speaker 1: six o'clock tonight Eastern time. All right, let's let's turn
Speaker 1: it around. If Dez Bryant, let's say this was it
Speaker 1: was a Ravens road game, and the Ravens were about
Speaker 1: to board their plane to head to Dallas. Would how
Speaker 1: early would does Bryant be there at the Baltimore Airport
Speaker 1: to fly to Dallas? So what time? What time would
Speaker 1: the chart that's a two o'clock flight to the two
Speaker 1: o'clock fight? How early would does be there? He'd be
Speaker 1: there at one fifty nine fifty. Now I think in
Speaker 1: this case he would be there at twelve fifty nine
Speaker 1: fifty going to Dallas to play. Normally he'd be one
Speaker 1: fifty nine fifty. Some things, don't has has dads missed
Speaker 1: many flights? No, he's always he was like Michael, he's
Speaker 1: like eighty eight. Yeah, he's like eighty eight. Michael might
Speaker 1: hum is to flight. But Dez didn't miss a flight,
Speaker 1: but he cut it close. So let me let me
Speaker 1: tell you. Jo Pierson never missed a flight, just so
Speaker 1: you know, let me tell you a funny story. So
Speaker 1: when we were heading so it had been about six
Speaker 1: years ago, about two weeks ago, when we were leaving
Speaker 1: for London for the game against Jacksonville. I remember it,
Speaker 1: and we remember all on the buses ready to go,
Speaker 1: and we were supposed to be there at Valley Ranch
Speaker 1: and at Valley Ranch, and at about three fifty nine,
Speaker 1: Dez's car pulls up and he still got to go
Speaker 1: in and go through protocols in their security and never
Speaker 1: and we took off and he got in there about
Speaker 1: four h two. Right. So that week, my my power
Speaker 1: cord to my laptop exploded in the room the first
Speaker 1: time I plugged it in right, wrong electricity or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I had to go down to the kind of
Speaker 1: lobby area where the cowboys set up their offices uh
Speaker 1: in the hallway to kind of glom off some uh
Speaker 1: uh some electricity. So we were supposed to leave on
Speaker 1: the blob off was leaving Fort Journalism Majors only journalism,
Speaker 1: making I cap okay. The bus was supposed to leave
Speaker 1: at eleven thirty uh, and I was going to stay
Speaker 1: in there as long as I could to get as
Speaker 1: much electricity on into my laptop. And someone calls me
Speaker 1: on the staff. They're in the bus. It's eleven twenty five,
Speaker 1: eleven twenty three, and they go, hey, you're coming. I
Speaker 1: go yeah, and they go, well, where yet, I said, well,
Speaker 1: eleven thirty right, and they go yeah, but it's getting
Speaker 1: close and I and I, very out loud, said on
Speaker 1: the phone, Hey, I'm on des Bret timelen thir means
Speaker 1: eleven thirty And just what I said at Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: came walking by. He started laughing. So that's what Tom
Speaker 1: Landry talked about. What is that word? Always spoke of
Speaker 1: bad habits as cancer to the team. And you see
Speaker 1: that you caught that das cancer man. He can't do that.
Speaker 1: You can't do How about this? You know what Mickey said?
Speaker 1: He just made up a word. I looked up glomb
Speaker 1: and glomb means to take steel sees or catch, which
Speaker 1: brings us to Daz and the catch he glombed onto
Speaker 1: the ball. Right. Hey, I've never heard that a word before.
Speaker 1: It's a little journalism word. But any hang around with me,
Speaker 1: all right? Vocabulary, all right? So how much is Dez
Speaker 1: Bryant in the game plan for Greg Roman and this
Speaker 1: Baltimore offense on Tuesday night? Who's playing quarterback Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Then he'll run, I guarantee you he runs more in
Speaker 1: the rounds than he does catch footballs. Interesting. Interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see dads at thirty plus trying
Speaker 1: to do an end the round, you know, just to
Speaker 1: put him in the game plan, especially when you had
Speaker 1: the option of Marquis Hollywood Brown or Devin around, Well,
Speaker 1: you gotta throw the dads down the scene, you know,
Speaker 1: short passes and you talk all this trash. Now we're
Speaker 1: joking about it, but to me, Daz looks extremely attractive
Speaker 1: right now as a wide receiver target considering how Lamar
Speaker 1: has been playing lately. Don't don't, don't, don't don't this
Speaker 1: Dad's right now. He might be an integral part of
Speaker 1: this passing game. I think John had been doing jack No,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, and I think I think he
Speaker 1: will be a part of it. And uh, I can
Speaker 1: just see them using I mean, he had four catches
Speaker 1: for twenty eight yards a couple of weeks ago against
Speaker 1: Tennessee and then with RG three and Tracey McSorley at quarterback,
Speaker 1: two targets in that game. So the last time that
Speaker 1: he played when Lamar Jackson was the quarterback that target him,
Speaker 1: he had thirty five snaps in that game and so
Speaker 1: I think I wouldn't be surprised if Dez is pretty
Speaker 1: pretty involved in the game plan. Is he gonna be
Speaker 1: your pick to click? I haven't. I haven't considered the
Speaker 1: good questions that that is a very good question, and
Speaker 1: that now we can we can forget all the bs.
Speaker 1: Now what are you thinking that, Bill? Come on? Well,
Speaker 1: first off, we got to know, as Mickey said, we
Speaker 1: got to know who's playing in the game, and it
Speaker 1: came out on Sunday that sources said that Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: should be starting at quarterback for the Ravens. Mick, you
Speaker 1: bring us up to speed on what you know as
Speaker 1: far as Cowboy availability and Raven availability for this game. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we knew the Cowboys, Uh, you know availability
Speaker 1: pretty much. They're obviously going to be without Cam Irving
Speaker 1: and Zach Martin at the guard position. So we got
Speaker 1: Brandon Knight and Terence Steele back there at the guard spots.
Speaker 1: I think the two tackle spots, sorry, the two big
Speaker 1: questions going in and they're listed as questionable. Uh, Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown and Donovan Wilson, who did not practice by the way,
Speaker 1: all week long. He had a groin injury, so miss
Speaker 1: practice Friday. And Saturday they're listening as questionable talking Donovan Wilson,
Speaker 1: so they're probably going to push it to up to
Speaker 1: game day, but if not. Kind of when they were
Speaker 1: in their skeleton drills in the practice, we could see
Speaker 1: Darian Thompson was out there at the other safety spot,
Speaker 1: and then Anthony Brown actually got into practice on a
Speaker 1: limited basis on Friday and Saturday. They're listed to him
Speaker 1: as questionable, so you know, if he's not ready to go,
Speaker 1: Rashad Robinson would go at the other cornerback spot, but
Speaker 1: I would think that maybe Anthony is available for a
Speaker 1: few snaps. We'll see how how that one goes. In
Speaker 1: Alden Smith, who had illness the first two days of
Speaker 1: practice this week Thursday Friday, was full participation on Saturday.
Speaker 1: There listening to him is questionable, but I would imagine
Speaker 1: he's good to go now. As for Baltimore, and we'll
Speaker 1: know more about all this at three pm today when
Speaker 1: they have to make the moves off their COVID reserve list,
Speaker 1: but so far they put Robert Griffin the third on
Speaker 1: injured reserve. Kalaius Campbell came off, so did Dobbins the
Speaker 1: un back and mark Ingram and jahad Ward. So those
Speaker 1: guys are off, but they can make more moves today.
Speaker 1: So in all over these last couple of days, they
Speaker 1: activated seven of the seventeen people off that list, but
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson hasn't been activated yet. We'll see if that
Speaker 1: indeed goes down yet today. Also, by the way, just
Speaker 1: to keep everything states secret and Mickey, Mickey, Mickey, Mickey, Mickey, Mickey,
Speaker 1: let me update you. I've got a report on the
Speaker 1: injury report. Anthony Brown and Donovan Wilson are out for
Speaker 1: so they they updated just right, yep, yep, um, So
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, we can go back to it anyway. Uh,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's ten days were up on Saturday, so he
Speaker 1: was eligible to practice on Sunday, but because of thirteen
Speaker 1: mile an hour wind in the Baltimore area, John Harbaugh
Speaker 1: moved practice indoors and meaning when it goes indoors, there's
Speaker 1: no independent media there to watch. So he did not
Speaker 1: say if Lamar Jackson was going to practice or not.
Speaker 1: He would have been eligible and then could have done
Speaker 1: a walk through today. So they're keeping that a secret.
Speaker 1: As if the Cowboys wouldn't prepare for this game with
Speaker 1: the idea that Lamar Jackson's gonna play and then oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, if he doesn't, Oh what are they
Speaker 1: gonna do? Trace mcsorley's in there. Heck, here's what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do. They're gonna run the ball against the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and run it and run it and run it and
Speaker 1: so so kind of that's where they're at right now.
Speaker 1: And yeah, those guys didn't, Like I said, Donovan Wilson
Speaker 1: didn't participate in any of those practices that we were
Speaker 1: able to see. Anthony Brown was at least out there,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately it looks like he's not gonna make it then, Bill,
Speaker 1: and that really hurts the secondary, especially the depth. Yea
Speaker 1: Burton and Rashauran Robinson called up from the practice score
Speaker 1: And that's what I worry about. We're always talking about
Speaker 1: continuity in regards to different units, you know, not just
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense, but the secondary itself. You want a
Speaker 1: little continuity when it comes to that entire unit in
Speaker 1: order for us to make a move. I think that's important.
Speaker 1: So having Donovan Wilson out, you know, I had started
Speaker 1: to really this guy started to really grow on me
Speaker 1: in regards to his timely hits in regards to the
Speaker 1: attitude that he brought to this defense. You look for
Speaker 1: your front four to do that, and he has been
Speaker 1: able to do that from the secondary and you have
Speaker 1: to give him a really a lot of props for that.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to these protocols, though, you know
Speaker 1: the coaches and the teams, they're also you know, dedicated
Speaker 1: to making sure things are done right. But then on
Speaker 1: the other hand, and all you see with a protocol
Speaker 1: is just an opportunity for a loophole when it comes
Speaker 1: to these coaches, I think that is just so funny
Speaker 1: how we're so concerned about COVID and the protocols that
Speaker 1: have to go through and how it's going to damage
Speaker 1: your team. Coaches always looking for loopholes. That's something that's
Speaker 1: never going to change. And you know what, here're the
Speaker 1: other moves that the mickey here the other moves that
Speaker 1: Cowboys have announced. Zack Martin has been placed on injured reserve,
Speaker 1: so he is out the next three games at least,
Speaker 1: So that would be Baltimore, Cincinnati, and San Francisco. Stephen
Speaker 1: Parker as well placed on I are safety and number forty,
Speaker 1: the guy that we just got to know his name yep,
Speaker 1: that's right, Yep, yep. So so, but they don't do
Speaker 1: anything with Cam Irving. And that's what Mike McCarthy had
Speaker 1: indicated that Irving's injury wasn't going to be as long
Speaker 1: as Zack Martin. And then I guess they didn't. They
Speaker 1: didn't say if they're moving those guys off the practice
Speaker 1: squad onto the active list. Yes, they did. They did.
Speaker 1: They said that Redman, Deante Burton, and Richard Robin Center
Speaker 1: are moved up from the practice Did they already moved
Speaker 1: to Maybe they moved Redmond to the fifty three already.
Speaker 1: I think maybe so, yeah, because those are the in
Speaker 1: In fact, this is from Dallas Cowboys public Relations Twitter
Speaker 1: just seconds ago. Well, the moves and one other thing
Speaker 1: on on Baltimore. They're gonna they are gonna be without
Speaker 1: their leading receiver, the tight end Mark Andrews. Uh. He
Speaker 1: had been on COVID nineteen and had you know, and
Speaker 1: and he's uh diabetic and so there's more complications there.
Speaker 1: They got to be careful with him. They'll also be
Speaker 1: without wide receiver Willie Snead and linebacker um Matthew Juden.
Speaker 1: So those guys, definitely that's a big boy. So anyway,
Speaker 1: there we are up to date on who is and
Speaker 1: who isn't playing except for long So that means that
Speaker 1: means yeah, that that means if they're calling saying that
Speaker 1: those guys are out, the other twenty guys are in
Speaker 1: that we're on COVID reserve, which in Claius Campbell's included
Speaker 1: in that mix. Brandon Williams on that defensive line. The
Speaker 1: running backs are already activated JK. Dobbins Uh back so
Speaker 1: Bill Brandon Williams um he is listed as doubtful on
Speaker 1: this injury report. Practice all week, so we'll see where
Speaker 1: that one goes. Uh. And they had one more doubtful.
Speaker 1: It was a backup, Broderick Washington. He was in concussion protocol. Uh,
Speaker 1: he didn't practice all week. Uh. And then the other
Speaker 1: guys that they had listed that were starters, both safeties
Speaker 1: Chuck Clark to Sean Elliott. Clark was did not practice
Speaker 1: all week. He's questionable. Elliott got back in full the
Speaker 1: last two days, but they still listed him as questionable.
Speaker 1: And then offensive lineman DJ Fluker I believe he missed
Speaker 1: the last game with an ankle. They've listed him as questionable.
Speaker 1: And then I mentioned Brandon Williams as questionable. Traymond Williams,
Speaker 1: the cornerback, is the one that's doubtful. Sorry, got my
Speaker 1: Williams missed up Okay, okay, and they just picked him
Speaker 1: up late in the season He should have played in
Speaker 1: a couple of games so far. All right, we're just
Speaker 1: getting started here on Mick Shots. It's a I guess
Speaker 1: we talk about the NFC East and what this game
Speaker 1: means as far as that race now after what we
Speaker 1: saw on Sunday, and it's a even got to be
Speaker 1: a larger game for the Baltimore Ravens as well, who
Speaker 1: really need about the entire NFL. Yeah, we talk about that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was before the turn of the century. Thanks bag.
Speaker 1: So how surprised were you guys that the Giants went
Speaker 1: into Seattle and got a victory with Colt McCoy at quarterback,
Speaker 1: and they now are in command of the NFC East.
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know the Seattle wanted to
Speaker 1: play that game that they were just awful. Their offensive
Speaker 1: line was awful, their defensive line was awful. But check
Speaker 1: this out, and this is just what I was emphasizing
Speaker 1: last week. I don't care how many problems you're having
Speaker 1: on offense. I don't care how many offensive linemen you're missing.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're playing your backup quarterback. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean your defense has got a cave. They only
Speaker 1: gave up twelve points to Seattle at home with Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson at quarterback. They only gave up two hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety yards on offense. And they and I mean the
Speaker 1: Giants only gained two hundred ninety yards on offense. They
Speaker 1: only threw for a net of one hundred yards with
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback all right, going thirteen of twenty two,
Speaker 1: one interception for one hundred and five yards only along
Speaker 1: of twenty two and a quarterback rating of sixty seven
Speaker 1: point four. And they won. They won because of their defense.
Speaker 1: They sacked Wilson five times, they hit them ten times.
Speaker 1: They had seven passes defense, seven tackles for losses in
Speaker 1: two takeaways. So we've been talking all about what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are missing on offense, backup quarterback, backup offensive tackles.
Speaker 1: The defense has got to step up if they're gonna
Speaker 1: survive this. And the Giants survived because of their defense,
Speaker 1: not what they did offensively. All they scored was seventeen points,
Speaker 1: but because of what happened defensively, Yeah, I gotta say
Speaker 1: s bags I call. I kind of called this one
Speaker 1: last week before we went off. I was saying, watch out.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the red Skins and how impressed
Speaker 1: we were with their front line, and I told you, guy,
Speaker 1: watch out for the Giants. We weren't even talking about Philly.
Speaker 1: When Bill and I were going through all of optimistic
Speaker 1: moments about the Cowboys chances with The last thing I
Speaker 1: talked about was bringing up the New York Giants defense.
Speaker 1: Good cornerbacks, good safeties, aggressive game plan. They seem to
Speaker 1: be playing very well together as a unit, just like
Speaker 1: the Redskins did against us. And on top of that, guys,
Speaker 1: you have to look at the Seahawks. The Seahawks and boy,
Speaker 1: this just gets on my nerves. I'm like Jeane Staller,
Speaker 1: this just chaps my ass, as he says, when when
Speaker 1: we just all of a sudden, we want to give
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson so much credit early in the season. This
Speaker 1: happens every year. Russell Wilson's more than a decent quarterback,
Speaker 1: but we always want to throw all of these superlatives
Speaker 1: on them early on and It kind of makes makes
Speaker 1: me mad because it's all that the at the behest
Speaker 1: to Dad Prescott playing well those particular times Seattle. In
Speaker 1: the last five games, they should be owing five. They
Speaker 1: should be owing five. They started off so strong. Everyone's
Speaker 1: giving them the Super Bowl already. This team has their flaws,
Speaker 1: and the Giants took advantage of them. Everything you said
Speaker 1: facts about the Giants defense so true, about any team,
Speaker 1: so true. I don't care what your offense is doing,
Speaker 1: and I said it last week. Defense can keep you
Speaker 1: in any ball game. I said it. Watch out for
Speaker 1: those New York Giants because their defense is bawling. I
Speaker 1: wish the Cowboys could have that same attitude because they
Speaker 1: I think, I still think that they have the talent
Speaker 1: to do it. They just don't need to give up
Speaker 1: on their players. That's what I feel, and you know
Speaker 1: what I feel the same way. You look at the
Speaker 1: rest of the results in the NFL. Seven teams one
Speaker 1: Sunday giving up no more than twenty points, and six
Speaker 1: of those gave up no more than sixteen. The great
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints right twenty one sixteen, they win. You know,
Speaker 1: if you don't give up a heck of a lot
Speaker 1: of points. You got a chance to look at the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers games, Fags. Yes, how that defense had to
Speaker 1: save them in that game, and it still was close,
Speaker 1: and that defense still looked ugly. The other team still
Speaker 1: had a chance to win. But you, your defense has
Speaker 1: to be the stabilizer for all of your mistakes. And
Speaker 1: look at what Kansas City great exam. Kansas City only
Speaker 1: scored twenty two points, but they only gave up sixteen, right, yea,
Speaker 1: the great Patrick needs help just like anybody else. So
Speaker 1: you played defense. And the same thing with Green Bay.
Speaker 1: That was a twenty three sixteen game until they broke
Speaker 1: the long run at the end, but they held Philadelphia
Speaker 1: to sixteen points. So again, if you can hold the
Speaker 1: team to a reasonable bound of points, some Colt McCoy
Speaker 1: might come in and win his first game since twenty
Speaker 1: thank you eighteen beating the Cowboys, thank you, thank you hey, Mickey. Yes,
Speaker 1: the greatest, the great example from the Cowboys passed on.
Speaker 1: That was the playoff game against the Giants in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven when the Cowboys come in at thirteen
Speaker 1: and three eighteen. And all the Giants did in that
Speaker 1: game is they just kept it close all the way
Speaker 1: to the end, and then they wanted in the end.
Speaker 1: And what that defense does, it helps you. It holds
Speaker 1: on until the other team, the gunna make a mistake.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys. The Cowboys had more firepower on that offense
Speaker 1: than what the Giants had, but the Cowboys couldn't put
Speaker 1: them away. And so the Giants were right there at
Speaker 1: the end. And what they do, They ran that philosophy
Speaker 1: all the way to a Super Bowl title. I think
Speaker 1: if if you go back years from now, we'll go
Speaker 1: back and look at Bill Belichick this twenty years and
Speaker 1: we talk all about Tom Brady having the greatest quarterback whatever.
Speaker 1: But one of the keys, a huge key for the
Speaker 1: Patriots over this time, is just staying in games. And
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the perfect examples Kansas City last night
Speaker 1: where okay, they're playing a Denver team that has no
Speaker 1: business to be playing them, a close game all the
Speaker 1: way to the end like that. They got all the
Speaker 1: firepower in the world, but Kansas City kept it. It
Speaker 1: wasn't their their night offensively, and they kept it right
Speaker 1: there and they wound up winning the game. Even when
Speaker 1: you got great offenses, if you can have that attitude
Speaker 1: where you're not giving the game away, which is the
Speaker 1: biggest problem that I had with what happened on Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: Day in a twenty to sixteen game, and you're calling
Speaker 1: a fake punt from your own twenty four yard line
Speaker 1: on fourth and ten Washington. Washington doesn't have that kind
Speaker 1: of offense. They're gonna make some mistakes, and so just
Speaker 1: play the game out. Let the game come to you.
Speaker 1: I remember, Bill, as you talk about, as we talked
Speaker 1: about that Giants team, I think they were nine and
Speaker 1: seven that year, beat the Cowboys, went on to they
Speaker 1: had to play Green Bay following the Cowboys game. If
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, in Green Bay, and once again they
Speaker 1: did the same thing that you talked about, kept it close,
Speaker 1: kept it close. And I remember sitting watching that game
Speaker 1: with one of my best friends, and all he kept saying,
Speaker 1: I think he had money on the game because he
Speaker 1: was really excited. But at all he kept saying was
Speaker 1: Brett Farve is going to make a mistake, which you
Speaker 1: know he's human. Breath farb was always known for being
Speaker 1: a gambler making those mistakes. And the Giants stayed strong, defensively, strong, defensively, strong, defensively,
Speaker 1: sure enough, Breath far throws that pick I think it
Speaker 1: was in the third quarter, and it just changed It
Speaker 1: just changed everything. And at that point you knew that
Speaker 1: the Giants had a chance to win that game with
Speaker 1: that nine and seven record. And really, Mackey, we don't
Speaker 1: give enough credit to the Cowboys Super Bowl teams of
Speaker 1: the nineties for playing good defense and keeping them and
Speaker 1: not letting a game get away from them. The only
Speaker 1: game that got away from them was the game they
Speaker 1: lost in San Francisco. But that wasn't a product of
Speaker 1: the defense. It was three turnovers in the first five
Speaker 1: minutes of the game and falling behind twenty one another. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and everybody forgets how good that defense was. I think
Speaker 1: the one year they were like top three one in
Speaker 1: the league, number one, yeah, exactly. So yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know that's that's that's where this whole thing fell apart.
Speaker 1: It was because they couldn't play defense. They and it
Speaker 1: wasn't just the personnel, it was how they used the personnel.
Speaker 1: We talked about it last time we were together on
Speaker 1: that Thursday, about you know, not trying to not trying
Speaker 1: to use three linebackers when you know teams were gonna run.
Speaker 1: And by the way, so on Friday. We got a
Speaker 1: quorum on that too, by the way, because Nate Newton
Speaker 1: and Brad Sham definitely agreed with us. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, Brad brought that up all by himself, talking
Speaker 1: about how teams go heavy and the Cowboys are still
Speaker 1: playing their nickel defense and you know that. And another
Speaker 1: thing about that game with the Giants, did you see
Speaker 1: how successful they were when boring Jason Garrett lined up
Speaker 1: with three tight ends in the running game, and they
Speaker 1: ran the ball and they ran for touchdowns with Alfred Morris.
Speaker 1: With Alfred Morris, who, oh my god, tired right, So
Speaker 1: I did too. He was retired. They picked him up
Speaker 1: off the car, right. But but yeah, so you go
Speaker 1: three go heavy with three tight ends. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with running the ball. And he would get criticized, Well,
Speaker 1: everybody knows what you're gonna do. Okay, fine, we'll see
Speaker 1: if they can stop you. And the defense was if
Speaker 1: you have that a company with a good defense, anything
Speaker 1: that you do, if you just stick to the plan.
Speaker 1: I got my Super Bowl ring based on that philosophy.
Speaker 1: So it's nothing I've heard. This is something that I know.
Speaker 1: We were the most boring team to watch play because
Speaker 1: we were solid in our running game and we just
Speaker 1: played defense. Dan Marino comes to the Meadowlands, they thought
Speaker 1: they were gonna see fireworks. It was a yawner. I
Speaker 1: think they may have scored a field goal in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: It was the easiest game I've ever played against one
Speaker 1: of the most dangerous quarterbacks I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: So defense is what it's all about. And I don't
Speaker 1: care what you say. The Cowboys philosophy over since Jerry's
Speaker 1: gotten a team, it has never been to invest in defense.
Speaker 1: Aside from Charles Haley and Dion Sanders, that defense was
Speaker 1: a pretty much a no name defense before they had arrived.
Speaker 1: And so for the Cowboys to play that well behind
Speaker 1: that defense and the philosophy is to pay offensive players.
Speaker 1: Cowboys philosophy is not to pay defensive players at that
Speaker 1: time in the nineties, and yet they still, as you
Speaker 1: guys pointed out, had one of the best defenses in
Speaker 1: the league. So Everson before before we go to break Everson.
Speaker 1: So when you won the NFC title game at San
Speaker 1: Francisco in ninety what was the score. I think it
Speaker 1: was like thirteen. No, we we had a it was
Speaker 1: fifteen and then we Ki Matt Ball kicked five field
Speaker 1: goal And then what did you win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: What was the score of the Super Bowl? We were
Speaker 1: the only team to keep Buffalo under twenty points that season,
Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty was a final score. Yep. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the Giants, isn't that why on the show?
Speaker 1: I thought that was why I was on the show.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the Giants now come home to
Speaker 1: host an Arizona team that all of a sudden has
Speaker 1: lost three in a row and four of their last
Speaker 1: five games. That Cardinals team that was the flavor of
Speaker 1: the map in October is no longer the flavor of
Speaker 1: the flavor changes all the time, Bill, the flavors change
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Then all of a sudden, you got the
Speaker 1: heat from Arizona. Everybody's down on Pittsburgh now Kansas City,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, bless this season plays out in
Speaker 1: this lowly NFC East now as has a team that
Speaker 1: went to beat a division leader in Seattle this weekend.
Speaker 1: And don't forget last month the Cowboys with Garrett Gilbert
Speaker 1: were throwing for the end zone to beat the unbeaten
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. So maybe all Hope is not lost for
Speaker 1: this at FC East and the Cowboys can go into
Speaker 1: Baltimore on Tuesday night and win a game. And don't
Speaker 1: forget Minnesota, right, they've won, They've won five of their
Speaker 1: last six. And who did they lose to the Cowboys? Hey? Hey,
Speaker 1: Alice Cowboy? Hey all right, Hope springs eternal And we
Speaker 1: continue with more mix shots with our picks to click.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I've got the referees name, who
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Speaker 1: We got a lot to get to, including our picks
Speaker 1: to click in the game. Who's gonna win the game?
Speaker 1: But first off, Everson brought up the referee who made
Speaker 1: the call. He was giving him the business. All right,
Speaker 1: I found I've got the guy's name, the referee's name.
Speaker 1: My question to both of you, when do you think
Speaker 1: that happened when that official said that on the microphone?
Speaker 1: All right? Me? First, what year I'm gonna say, Spats,
Speaker 1: I'm thank you Spas telling you about two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, Mickey, what year you're gonna go with?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go late eighties. So somewhere around eighty seven,
Speaker 1: eighty eight, eighty nine, nineteen eighty six, October fifth, nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six, still playing BILLI Jets game, it might have
Speaker 1: been and referees name. The referee's name was Ben Dryth
Speaker 1: and Ben Dryth the while calling Jets defensive lineman Marty
Speaker 1: Lions for unnecessary roughness on Bill's quarterback, Jim Kelly, Dryth
Speaker 1: said he was giving him the business. So there are
Speaker 1: you giving them the business? All right? Future Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer getting the business under the under the pile. That's right,
Speaker 1: all right? So who's gonna be given the most business
Speaker 1: on Tuesday night as the Cowboys take on the ravenst
Speaker 1: what are you thinking it won't beat Greg Williams? That's right.
Speaker 1: Greg Williams fired today as defensive coordinator of the New
Speaker 1: York Jets, which it appeared that he was trying to
Speaker 1: get premptive strike. That was his own pre emptive strike.
Speaker 1: He knew he was out of there after the season.
Speaker 1: He just want blit. Do you think twice twice Bill
Speaker 1: twice twice all out blitz. They just overthrew him the
Speaker 1: first time. Do you think he took the fall for
Speaker 1: the team tanking like They told him, we're gonna lose
Speaker 1: this and you're not gonna be back next year. So
Speaker 1: why don't you just call this goofy defense and see
Speaker 1: if we can lose this game. Oh my god, the
Speaker 1: guys try so hard then you want to give it up.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, it makes no sense anyway. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: don't want to get into that's crazy. Only my pick
Speaker 1: the click bill. Yeah, I wouldn't not playing him anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at how everyone's giving Peters so much credit
Speaker 1: here and Jalen Ramsey. Look at these guys both on
Speaker 1: very dogged defensive backs, but very vulnerable. As far as
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, our white receivers have never feared any good
Speaker 1: defensive back. I think Gilmore was the only one that's
Speaker 1: really been successful against any of our Corps receivers on
Speaker 1: a consistent basis. I believe they're gonna put Peters on Cooper.
Speaker 1: I truly believe that, and that I think that gives
Speaker 1: Gallop a chance to really make some big plays. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be running the ball a lot, I do believe,
Speaker 1: if we're smart, but I think Gallup is going to
Speaker 1: be the difference maker in the ball game. Hopefully we
Speaker 1: can defensively keep it close enough to where a big
Speaker 1: play to gallop will be the difference in the ball game.
Speaker 1: My score, you know me? Best case scenario, Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen. I think Lamar Jackson is going
Speaker 1: to be extremely rusty, and if we're smart, we're gonna
Speaker 1: stack that line on them and dare him to complete
Speaker 1: a pass on us with his tight end out as well.
Speaker 1: Come on, we have to take advantage of all of
Speaker 1: those situations. Twenty four to fourteen, Cowboys only giving up
Speaker 1: fourteen points on the road at Baltimore. Mickey, what are
Speaker 1: you thinking? They don't have a tight end and listed
Speaker 1: behind Mark Andrews. They have another tight end on the roster.
Speaker 1: It might be def Bryant, by the way, it might be.
Speaker 1: It might be. Well, they signed Luke Wilson. They signed
Speaker 1: Luke Wilson, and they last gay had Eric Tomlinson as
Speaker 1: well and a Sean Cooking. Oh okay, well, they will
Speaker 1: not let Luke Wilson retire. Huh, they will not let
Speaker 1: him retire. He's gonna always be called on by someone
Speaker 1: in the AC So I'm obligated to pick him to lose.
Speaker 1: Since they haven't won two in a row. Uh, something like, Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go twenty three twenty. They're gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of field goals in this game. And Mike pick
Speaker 1: to Clay had a pretty good kicker on their side. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And my pick to click for the Cowboys that's gonna
Speaker 1: keep this close is gonna be Layton vander esh because
Speaker 1: of what Everson said about them going heavy on their
Speaker 1: running game, and I think Layton can make a difference
Speaker 1: in the middle of that defense. He has fun. Okay,
Speaker 1: you said at the beginning of the show. I think
Speaker 1: it was Everson who thought that my pick to click
Speaker 1: is gonna be this Dez Bryant character on the Baltimore side.
Speaker 1: And so now it's time for my pick to click,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go with number eighty eight. That's right,
Speaker 1: number eighty eight us. He's got a lot to prove,
Speaker 1: he's got a lot to bounce back from. And so
Speaker 1: I'm saying number eight drop Lamb my pick to click,
Speaker 1: ce d Lamb. After dropping a pass last week, touchdown pass,
Speaker 1: You're getting predicted out a lot to prove and you
Speaker 1: like my pick, Mickey, I knew where you were going.
Speaker 1: My predictions are so predictable, and I'm going with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to win this game. You said that the Ravens
Speaker 1: got a pretty good field goal kicker, Justin Tucker, all right,
Speaker 1: and Everson said the score of a Super Bowl win
Speaker 1: was twenty to nineteen back thirty years ago. It's a
Speaker 1: Cowboy win twenty to nineteen over Justin Tucker and the
Speaker 1: Ravens cdee Lamb with the game winning two point conversion
Speaker 1: to win the game two point conversion conversion or if
Speaker 1: that comes into play, Hey, if that comes last play, Bill,
Speaker 1: I promise you, man, you're gonna get a nice present
Speaker 1: from me if you if last all comes into play,
Speaker 1: you play the game special. Last play of the game.
Speaker 1: McCarthy is gonna go for two and the win, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a two point conversion. I having decided,
Speaker 1: not impressed at all, having to sided whether CV is
Speaker 1: gonna cast the pass or throw the pass for the
Speaker 1: winning two point conversion. I think it's probably gonna throw it.
Speaker 1: This is why, this is why Bill doesn't have to
Speaker 1: play fantasy football. You know, all right, I think that
Speaker 1: does it. We've we've previewed the game. There you go,
Speaker 1: so we're back. We're back on Wednesday. Well, we'll wrap
Speaker 1: up the game absolutely. That's try Wednesday, all right, George
Speaker 1: coming up. Y'all get rested up, all right. We'll see
Speaker 1: you on Wednesday after a Cowboys win in Baltimore on
Speaker 1: Tuesday night. CLA go Cowboys, baby, we win in this one.
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