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Speaker 1: Tuesday edition of Hanging with the Boys. We are short

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Speaker 1: one of our boys in studio, but he'll call in

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Speaker 1: in the second segment. But we are here. I am here,

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Speaker 1: Kurt's here, Chris, here's Audio Jazz here, and together we

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Speaker 1: make Hanging with the Boys the sports talk equivalent of Breil.

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Speaker 1: People feel us when we speak. There we go, there

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Speaker 1: we go, and we are starting to feel the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: signing some people this free agency. Today, it was reported

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Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have resigned strong safety Donovan Wilson to

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Speaker 1: a three year was a twenty three million, twenty four

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Speaker 1: at that safety position, Jay Ron Curse, Malie Cooker, and

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Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson. He to me, Donovan Wilson is the um,

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Speaker 1: the enforcer. I would say, we're back in like he

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Speaker 1: he brings that level of physicality, that level of if

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Speaker 1: you come across this middle tiptoe around, I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna lay a little bit of a little something something

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Speaker 1: blitzing quarterbacks. He's one of those guys when he gets

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Speaker 1: there usually come like you usually go down. Yeah. Like

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Speaker 1: he's not missing too many tackles. Yeah he's not, you know,

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Speaker 1: So getting him, getting Wilson nailed down for three, that's

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Speaker 1: that's a good move. Yeah, And it's a start. I know,

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Speaker 1: Cowboy fans across the claw the globe or saying what

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Speaker 1: are we doing for hey to see him started? What

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Speaker 1: are you gonna get into the and and the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have been very vocal for a number of years. And

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Speaker 1: but they always kind of say, um, we like our guys,

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Speaker 1: We like our guys, Um we want to sign our guys.

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Speaker 1: And and if i'm if, I'm gonna be fair across

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Speaker 1: the board. There is something to signing your own people.

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Speaker 1: There's a level of knowledge and comfortability with knowing the

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Speaker 1: this game. It's a gamble. It is a gamble um.

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Speaker 1: Especially with draft picks. There there is this fifty fifty

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Speaker 1: and that scheme when another team may not necessarily fit

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Speaker 1: in your scheme on this team. But so sometimes resigning

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Speaker 1: I know where whereas his strimps, whereas his strimps. I

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Speaker 1: two other players, and maybe they aren't groundbreaking significant players.

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Speaker 1: I think Gifford's contract was so cheap the Cowboys could

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Speaker 1: probably somewhere around the six seven game was saying seven.

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Speaker 1: and you know, I should look at deals like Sam Hurts,

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, nahs that that that changes your life significantly.

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Speaker 1: seven millions, that's I mean seven millions over three years

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Speaker 1: now Tyrann Smith goes back to being your left tackle

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Smith goes in to be your left guard.

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Speaker 1: Are we hustling backwards in that in that situation, should

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Speaker 1: we just look forward to saying, you know what, Tyler

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Speaker 1: Smith is going to be our left tackle. Leave him there,

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Speaker 1: allow him to continue to grow there, you know, allow

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Speaker 1: him to get off season and in training camp reps

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Speaker 1: at left tackle. Not this flip flopping back and forth

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Speaker 1: and just making another decision that left at left guard.

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Speaker 1: Or are the Cowboys thinking about going the way you're

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Speaker 1: talking about Tyrn left tackle Tyler left guard? Uh? They

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Speaker 1: the rumors are and maybe Kurt no more that they

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Speaker 1: are trying to find out how they can shelfle money

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Speaker 1: for Tyler, for Tyron Smith because they want him here.

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Speaker 1: You gotta understand, Tyrn Steele is your right tackle, and

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Speaker 1: Tyron has to be ready to Shiuman Steele has. Steel

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Speaker 1: has to be ready to play at your right tackle.

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Speaker 1: It ain't gonna ramping up, amping up. He has to

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Speaker 1: be when the season starts right the way this look.

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Speaker 1: Still has to be your right tackle. They're all probe

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Speaker 1: Zach Martin is your right guard and be honest, is

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Speaker 1: just is you is your center? Those are your starting

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Speaker 1: five guys. Those are the only guys that you have.

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Speaker 1: There's no more. There's no more you got guys that's

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Speaker 1: coming off for injuries, guys that have not been proven.

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Speaker 1: Those are your five guys. There's no more unless you

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Speaker 1: go and get some more. Do you think they need

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Speaker 1: another like starting guard or you think they're just needing

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Speaker 1: depth At this point, they need starting players. They need

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Speaker 1: starting players. We're gonna go into the season again saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: we don't know who we got is we believe that

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Speaker 1: coach Mike Solari, it's gonna be tough enough and uh

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Speaker 1: ta technician enough to put these five guys. Are five

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Speaker 1: or two new guys in place? Who is the backups?

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Speaker 1: I'm asking that question, going to your roster and say

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Speaker 1: who are your who is your swing tackle? He's not

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Speaker 1: on this he's not on his roster. Now Ball hadn't

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Speaker 1: shown much and they've drafted. Well, let's go last year,

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Speaker 1: mister season because of injury. But I guess they're hopeful

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Speaker 1: for him inside that got farty arc I guess and yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: and yeah and eating battle and and and yes Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: lost hard Grave, but dy've shown to know how to

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Speaker 1: go out and get guys, I mean B level players

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Speaker 1: on one year contracts. You know we we we're banking

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Speaker 1: on a lot. We're banking on other teams not improving.

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Speaker 1: That ain't happening. That our division and got better just

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Speaker 1: by Washington keeping who they dran pain. Who on our

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Speaker 1: officive line interiorly can block drum pain, you know, besides

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Speaker 1: besides Jack Martin, And that's gonna he have his hands

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Speaker 1: full when he does have to deal with that beast

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Speaker 1: and the other guy that the other Obama kids. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have to understand one thing. We have

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Speaker 1: to get decided decisively better on the inside our offensive line.

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Speaker 1: We have to get decisively better at tight end if

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Speaker 1: we're gonna compete within our own division. The NFC East

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Speaker 1: is not soft anymore. The NFC East is backed that beast,

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Speaker 1: and people keep thinking that the Philadelphia is just gonna

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Speaker 1: fall off. I don't see it until it happens. I'm

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Speaker 1: not believing it. Washington stay same or getting better. They

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Speaker 1: got a different offensive coordinator, so they're gonna be better offensively.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna rest that defense. What about the other side

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Speaker 1: of the ball that we've seen some defensive tackles get

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Speaker 1: signed up Hardgrave, Tomlinson, Ridgeway, I mean, are you like

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Speaker 1: to see you can't do something a little more there.

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Speaker 1: You know. I listened to the show before us and

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Speaker 1: they said, what are the three guys that we have

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Speaker 1: to sign? And we and and I almost wanted to

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Speaker 1: laugh when they say, well, we gotta make sure we

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Speaker 1: signed Hankins. I was like, wow, really when Hargrave was

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Speaker 1: out there, when other guys are out there who can

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Speaker 1: help this team win? Uh? Yeah, yeah, that's what they say.

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Speaker 1: That's what they say. You know, we we if we're

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Speaker 1: gonna compete, and just only in NFC East, what defensive

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Speaker 1: player besides as Michael Parsons digs Okay, he signed Wilson back,

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Speaker 1: who else is gonna make that dent defensively? You still

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Speaker 1: need a beef in the middle. You still need to

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Speaker 1: beef in that middle to get going. You still need somebody,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's Layton gonna take another step this year

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Speaker 1: towards being that All Pro linebacker we saw as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna take that extra step? It's one of

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Speaker 1: those young guys that Jesse was talking about. Is they

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Speaker 1: gonna have that impactful year that say, Wow, okay, Biles

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Speaker 1: standing Pat, We're good to go. We still need improvement,

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Speaker 1: and I mean we need an impact player to go

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Speaker 1: along with Michael Parsons up front. I don't know who.

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Speaker 1: We need an impact player. We need to make our

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Speaker 1: offensive lines solid. This running around talking about of another

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. You got wide receivers. Just get them healthy,

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Speaker 1: get them on the field, and throw them the ball.

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Speaker 1: You heard it. You heard it here first from the

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Speaker 1: from the horse's mouth, nathanielknew the Cloudsdale. Now come in,

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Speaker 1: come in. I won't do that. Man. You slim you

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Speaker 1: slimmed down from your playing day. So I'm gonna call

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Speaker 1: you a cladisdale. I'm gonna eat it. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: Nate man. We appreciate your brother. Continue to be safe

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Speaker 1: on the road. We look forward to your return and

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Speaker 1: being back in studio next week. Ye'all left last night

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Speaker 1: at five o'clock, I mean yesterday evening at five o'clock,

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Speaker 1: went down to Louisiana and Mississippi. Picked up monk. I

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Speaker 1: got him in the car with me. What, Yeah, how

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Speaker 1: you're doing? Yeah? You should have had ankor this whole time.

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Speaker 1: This monk that says you don't put ribs in a croppot,

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Speaker 1: that's all right. You never had my ribs in the

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Speaker 1: crypot before. You gotta just you know, don't knock until

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Speaker 1: you're trying. Man. All right, brother, I love y'all, y'all

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Speaker 1: having a great show man. Thank y'all very much, Thank

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Speaker 1: you man. I appreciate you. All right. When we come

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Speaker 1: back from this break. I brought this up a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and you and Nate kind of laughed

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Speaker 1: at me. Okay, you and Nate kind of laughed at me.

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Speaker 1: And I want to bring it up again, all right,

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Speaker 1: for him for the cowboys from the front office. Is

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Speaker 1: back to Hanging with the Boys. On this whose day

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Speaker 1: off season edition, we got some I like the breaking

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Speaker 1: new sound breaking news sound m The Cowboys lose another player. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they lose their like quote unquote their number two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys lose their quote unquote number two receiver stays

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Speaker 1: in Texas thirty five South forty five South forty five

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Speaker 1: South forty five South forty five South. Noah Brown size

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Speaker 1: a one year deal with the Houston Texans. Yea, he

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Speaker 1: goes down forty five south to Houston to join up

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Speaker 1: with Demiko Ryans and that football team. The one thing

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Speaker 1: I know about Demiko Ryans is his football team is

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Speaker 1: going to be physical and and if you're going to

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Speaker 1: want physical physicality offensively and defensively, then a guy like

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Speaker 1: Noah Brown on your team. Who is you know, one

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Speaker 1: of those guys who you know, as long as he's

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Speaker 1: playing the proper you're not asking him to be the

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Speaker 1: number two guy. If he's a number four guy, he's

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Speaker 1: a solid number four guy, he's not blocked with you.

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Speaker 1: Is that a loss? Is that somebody? Or is that

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Speaker 1: is he just the guy? Or is that somebody that

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Speaker 1: Cowboys could if he was a number four and a

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Speaker 1: special team or is that a guy that Cowboys needed.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say needed, But now there's so much

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Speaker 1: more pressure now when a guy like um jailn Toilberg. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sim for hoku, guys like that who the cowboys kind

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Speaker 1: of mis saying all right, guys come on, like you know,

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Speaker 1: those windows in that time is so short it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: give him a try, all right, move Noah, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you know. And and a guy like Noah Brown, who

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Speaker 1: you know what, was going to consistently do it because

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Speaker 1: you want other guys like us in me, like a

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Speaker 1: Jenla Tibur to kind of take that next step. But

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Speaker 1: when the other guys are kind of you know, pussy

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Speaker 1: footing around with it, you're just like, all right, well

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Speaker 1: go ahead, like we just don't have time for this,

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Speaker 1: Like we don't, we don't have time to keep getting

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Speaker 1: these guys going in every single place. And a guy

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Speaker 1: like no one knows what to do. You want to

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Speaker 1: move forward. You want to you want to just continue

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Speaker 1: the progression forward. So um that that's gonna now challenge

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Speaker 1: if Jaylen Brown, Jaylen Brown, Jaylen Tolbert doesn't work out,

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Speaker 1: a question marks receiver. Yeah, Michael Gallup, Michael Gallup, you

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Speaker 1: know you continue to you continue to add more and

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Speaker 1: more question marks to your uh, to your to your books. Hum.

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Speaker 1: But he's he's he's headed down to Houston. And that

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Speaker 1: goes back to your question that you had in the

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Speaker 1: first segment. You know, well, it's a one year deal.

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Speaker 1: million dollars. So it's like, do you take the chance

633
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: of being here for one million dollars where you know

634
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have a little bit more success overall

635
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, or do you say, you know what,

636
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: a fresh start is better for me going to a

637
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: place where a coach may not be kind of a

638
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: city duck. You know, Demik's gonna have at least three

639
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: or four years. Maybe I can go down here and

640
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: kind of because when you look at the receiving corps

641
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: in Houston, despite what we say, Noah Brown may feel

642
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: like he's a number two. Yeah, like opportunity he's gonna

643
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: even go. You know what I don't. I'm not playing

644
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: behind Ceedee Lamp. I'm not playing behind guys who get

645
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: big money. Um, they have some receivers in Houston, that

646
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: there might be getting rid of one of those guys

647
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: in Houston. So it's like the doors open for me

648
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: to come in there and show improve Because I will say,

649
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: at times when you when you're with a team for

650
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: a number of years, you get boxed in. You get

651
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: boxed into this is what you are to us. And

652
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: sometimes getting a new look, a new set of eyes

653
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: on you gives you a chance to go. You know what,

654
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: they don't see me that way. They may see me

655
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: at a different and a different light. They may see

656
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: me as a number two. And again we may sit

657
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: here and say, oh, you're not a number two dude.

658
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: But know what's saying, screw you, Kurt, screw you, Jesse.

659
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: Yes I am. I am a number two, and I'm

660
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: gonna go down to Houston and I'm gonna show him

661
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: that I'm a number two and hope I can go

662
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: down here and become a number two and then sums

663
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: give me some more money. So you never know, he

664
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: kind of was what he was here. So yeah, like

665
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: you said, fresh start, all right. So one of the

666
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: things that we live by. I know I live by

667
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: and I may be addicted to it. I am addicted

668
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: to it. I'm not gonna say maybe I am. It's

669
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: a I have a love hate relationship with this thing. Well,

670
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: there's always a love that Chris from the top, there's

671
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: always a love. There's no love hate dad babies, only love.

672
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: There's only love, only love. There's no hate that Jess

673
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: smarts all as long as my back holds up. My

674
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: back some time getting weak. But they're only love down

675
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: how the trailer parks from your Boy Ja Holly now

676
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: is Daddy's. Daddy's well loved in the mobile and the

677
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: mobile establishment your Boy's love down there. But there is

678
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: this love hate relationship that I have with this, with

679
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: this bird app, this Twitter app. Yeah, I want to

680
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to love it. I don't I really

681
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: really really don't think it less and less and I

682
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: am consistently and constantly getting pulled back into this thing.

683
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: I live here, I breathe here. I don't have any

684
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: other social media except Twitter. I don't have Facebook, I

685
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: don't have Twitter, I don't have Instagram, I mean on Twitter,

686
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: on Instagram, I don't have TikTok an, nothing else. Just

687
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: this this bird. This is it. It is my drug.

688
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: It is my It is my my addiction, and it

689
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: gives a voice to everyone. Some shouldn't have a voice,

690
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: some some do. But the one person for the Cowboys

691
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: that uses this bird app um as a significant and

692
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: has a comment about everything. Some gotten him in trouble,

693
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: some have praised him for it is one Michael Parsons. Yeah.

694
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: And if you just sit here and you follow Michael

695
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: Parsons as the free agency begins to kind of, you know,

696
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: dwindle down, Mica has a comment for every single time

697
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: a person gets signed of significance. And I brought this

698
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: up month, month or two ago. But is this going

699
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: to get Micah in a situation where he gets himself

700
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: in trouble for having a comment about every single free

701
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: agent like he sounds at time like a fan, like

702
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: he wants it. Everybody wants everybody to sign here, right, Yeah,

703
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: he's looking to build an all star team here, a dynasty. Yeah.

704
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: And I get it as a player saying, hey, listen,

705
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: the more guys, the more good guys or the caliber

706
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: guys of myself I have around me, the easier my

707
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: job becomes. Right. The less guys I have like me

708
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: or caliber like me, then the heart of my job becomes.

709
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: But it's Michael beginning to kind of almost indirectly publicly

710
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: challenge the front office. You have to think maybe he is. Yeah.

711
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: I mean the latest tweet that I think we're talking

712
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: about is when the Dolphins traded for Ramsey, Yes, and

713
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: MICA's tweet was you know, wtf never mind, which you know,

714
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: I guess you could read that several ways, but one

715
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: way is why didn't the Cowboys go get Ramsey? And

716
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: so I think that, yeah, he is, And it's I

717
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: don't know. In some ways you got to say Micauld

718
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: be quiet, but other ways you're like, yeah, maybe maybe

719
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: he's got a point here. And if the Cowboy, if

720
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: he sees the Cowboys aren't going to do something to

721
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: help those his team, is he going to be here

722
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: in two years when he's a free agent. That's the

723
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: next question I was gonna have for you. When you

724
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: see Micael tweet things out like this and you see

725
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: teams begin to build their quote unquote super teams, and

726
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: you're seeing all these moves happen. Because let's be honest, like,

727
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: we talk about this situation, but I don't know how

728
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: like the cap is, it's it's a real thing, but

729
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: it's it's also not a real thing because you can

730
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: you can make numbers kind of get into their you know,

731
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: dominique dolls, and they can jump and flip and do

732
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: all the different type of things that you want them

733
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: to do. It's all about if you want them to

734
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: do it. Um we see team doing all the time.

735
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: And then the thing of well you can't go out

736
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: and sign guys if you paid your quarterback whoa Kansas

737
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: city find a way to do it. They gave that

738
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: guy half a billion dollars. You know, it's ways to

739
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: make it happen. And are we looking at a situation

740
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: where in two years when it comes time. Now, a

741
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: lot of times in football is different than basketball and

742
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: baseball stuff like that, Like you're really you're pretty much

743
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: stuck in a lot of situations unless you just kind

744
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: of just go a wall and say I want out.

745
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm not showing up, I want out. But there's a franchise,

746
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: tag and Liz deal that can kind of keep you

747
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: locked in for a team for a while. But Mike

748
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: is still like a guy if he decides that I

749
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: ain't playing here, I ain't playing here, Like he seemed

750
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: like he's one of those guys that'll that'll that'll stand

751
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: on that. And it was the Steelers receiver who did that.

752
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: He's just set out the whole year. I can't remember.

753
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, Chris, was it Mike Wallace? No, No, anywhere,

754
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: dead man, I'm bogging down, Okay, Yeah, But he's that

755
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: kind of he's that kind of of a personality. So

756
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: are these cryptic kind of tweets where he's always talking

757
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: about it and you know, if the Cowboys don't come

758
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: up with something soon as far as playoff success, are

759
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: we looking at the situation two years from now where

760
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: it's like Michael's like, you know what, dude, I've given y'all. Yeah,

761
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: and especially if his guy goes elsewhere, and I know

762
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: that were talking about dan Quinn becoming the head coach,

763
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: that'll help, that may help keep him here. But if

764
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: dan Quinn goes elsewhere and becomes a head coach somewhere else,

765
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: can we look at him saying in two years? Michael's like, dude,

766
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm I'm out. I've been here for four

767
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: or five years. You guys aren't serious about winning. I've

768
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: I've seen other guys go assigned X, Y and Z

769
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: players to both of their teams and do this and

770
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: do that, and we just aren't on that same page.

771
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm not wasting away the rest of my prime years

772
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: here in Dallas. Yeah, I think it's got to be

773
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: something they think about, because he does seem to be

774
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: given those signals and so, but I don't know how

775
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: they I don't know how they can can fix it.

776
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: Get Like you said, they can manipulate the salary camp,

777
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: I guess and create room, but I mean just you know,

778
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: they still have to figure out how to sign CD

779
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Lamb and Trevon Diggs. I mean that's even before they

780
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: get to Micah, who's going to be the highest paid

781
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: player defensive player in the league. So I don't know

782
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: how they're going to manage all this now. Again, like

783
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: you said, they can manipulate the salary cap. But I

784
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: just wonder if they're sitting up there thinking about this,

785
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: we have to do something for Micah or does that

786
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: even cross their mind. They're like, man, we're gonna do

787
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: what we do and Mica can say what he says. Yeah,

788
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: I know, I don't not that kind of talent. He's

789
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: the kind of talent that you say, you know, we

790
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: have to do something, and Mike is gonna be I

791
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: don't know Michael personally, I just know from the outside,

792
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: but he looked like the kind of guy that gives

793
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: you that what was what was the tank Laurence famous

794
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: quote when he was going through that ain't my problem? Yeah,

795
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: you know, well what about the piece of the pie?

796
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: You know Stephen Joe was talking about, you know, hey,

797
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: we have a piece of the pie for everybody, and

798
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: it ain't my problem, right, the pie is not my problem, Like,

799
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: that's your problem. My concern is what you're gonna pay me.

800
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: I think Mike's gonna be along the lines, you know,

801
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: because you can always come back and say, well, Mike,

802
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: if you if you take a little bit of us pie,

803
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: then maybe we can go and get a little bit

804
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: more pieces. And Michael mayson back and look and said, hey,

805
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: via Twitter, I've watched for the last four or five years,

806
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: and and what the pieces that you did have of

807
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: the pot? You didn't go get other play, right, Yeah,

808
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: you didn't take advantage of when I was on my

809
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: rookie deal. Right. The guy you're talking about was Levian Bell,

810
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: who's South the whole season. Yeah, it's South the whole season. Yeah,

811
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: that wasn't wise by Levion. Did he get a deal

812
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: from that, Yes, he got the deal with the Jets, Okay,

813
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: ended up being the same deal that he should have taken,

814
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: So I mean, um, yeah, But again, Michael seem like

815
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that if he decides, yeah, I'm

816
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: putting my foot down, this is not it for me,

817
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: he won't he won't play like. I think he's one

818
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: of those guys. I do think he loves ball tremendously,

819
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: but I do think he's a guy that stands on

820
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: principle at time. Uh and just go hey, I'm about

821
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: the system and I'm just gonna be tricky. BUTI but

822
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: these tweets from Michael man, if you just keep watching them,

823
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: and as some fans are like, he's the voice of

824
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: the people, Like he speaks for us, He's talking how

825
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: we want to talk to the fresh He's he's he's

826
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: the one that's gonna get Stephen and Jerry to change

827
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: and and and and I'm sorry to break the news

828
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: to you guys. Yeah, yeah, just letting you know. The

829
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: pie is gonna get a lot bigger next year with

830
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: um apparently there's a lot of money. Yeah, that soodcast

831
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: money coming in, especially with the new deal they got

832
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: from YouTube TV. Yeah, but again you're gonna I mean,

833
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: there's you guys, some other guys in line ahead of him.

834
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: Are you going to you know, even but the money

835
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: they have now, should they extend Lamb or Digs or Candy.

836
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's such a balancing act and

837
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: you know, it takes some geniuses up there to figure

838
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: it out. And I certainly can't go. And again, if

839
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: if Michael thinks he's going to be the one to

840
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: get Jerry and Stephen to change his tripes on the

841
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: they are, Diggs would probably be your next guy, just

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Speaker 1: and you're talking about you know, the vounted twenty plus

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Speaker 1: may Now that you didn't want to pay to start with,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be they're the twenties for one year

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Speaker 1: two ye. So, and that what you don't pay, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what you don't pay lamb down. Its price is only

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Speaker 1: going up yesterday's prices, not today's prices. And that that

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Speaker 1: money goes against the cap hard because it's all guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: So all right, man, money money, money, money, money to

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Speaker 1: be made. Free agency goes on. Hopefully by this time

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Speaker 1: next week when we come back to Junior, we'll have

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Speaker 1: conversations of the cowboys really making a splashing free agency.

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Speaker 1: We don't know, we'll find out. You'll find out. We'll

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Speaker 1: find out at the same time. And Michael will let

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Speaker 1: us know if he's please, if we please, oh he's

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Speaker 1: not please about those situations. All right, we just did

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Speaker 1: that one. They just tell Mica thumbs up, thumbs down,

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Speaker 1: thumbs up, thumbs down, that's all we need. What was

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Speaker 1: we didn't we need one of those with the Mica

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Speaker 1: face the Mica face on it. Man, all right, that's

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Speaker 1: it for us, for Kurt in the for Kurt, for

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Speaker 1: Chris in the back, for audio jazz with brother Willie

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Speaker 1: bro will Bro William. We appreciate you. For Nate on

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Speaker 1: the road. I got Kurt in studio, I with Uncle

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Speaker 1: with Unc. Yes, what up? Un with Unc in the

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Speaker 1: passenger side and list Nate did not leave Unc in

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Speaker 1: Mississippi on the porch like he does me here in Texas.

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Speaker 1: I am no better known as Zaddy in the trailer parks.

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Speaker 1: This was another episode of Hanging with the Boys. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you guys next week. We out. This has been

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