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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Geddy arm Strong and Jetty and he.
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Speaker 4: Israeli jets pounded southern Lebanon, and despite US concern over
Speaker 4: Israel's bombing campaign in Beirut, there were a series of
Speaker 4: strikes around the capitol. This comes a day after Hesbel
Speaker 4: avowed to strike deeper inside Israel.
Speaker 2: The Israeli military says it's targeting Hesbel as strongholds, but
Speaker 2: there have been more than two thousand casualties and nearly
Speaker 2: eleven thousand wounded, many of them civilians.
Speaker 5: Wow. I was just thinking, this is listening to that
Speaker 5: because that's about Hesbelah and Lebanon, and news today right
Speaker 5: now is all about Hamas in Gaza, and it looks
Speaker 5: like Sinwar has been killed, the leader of Amas and
Speaker 5: the mastermind of October seventh. And I was going to
Speaker 5: talk about the two front war or is it really
Speaker 5: a one front war against Iran? And soon that will
Speaker 5: be more obvious when Israel does attack Iran, which they're
Speaker 5: planning to do. That's why we thought we'd bring Mike
Speaker 5: Lyons in he's our go to guy anything military. We
Speaker 5: catch him on CNN all the time. I follow his
Speaker 5: Twitter feed all the time and wanted to hear his opinion.
Speaker 5: First of all, sinwar being dead, if that's true's good news,
Speaker 5: Hey Mike, Hey.
Speaker 6: Guys, Yeah, I think so. It's not the end or
Speaker 6: anything of this. It's not that thing will change. There
Speaker 6: is others there within Hamas that will look to step
Speaker 6: up take his place. But he's been the leader since
Speaker 6: I think twenty seventeen. You know, Hamas has got this
Speaker 6: you know, kind of set up where they run the military,
Speaker 6: they run the political side of things, They have elections,
Speaker 6: they do a lot of different things that you would
Speaker 6: think of terrorist organization wouldn't do on some level. But
Speaker 6: there'll be somebody to take his place. I think you're
Speaker 6: looking at. There's a deputy leader. There's a guy named
Speaker 6: Sally Aurora. He was the deputy head there runs the
Speaker 6: West Bank operations. So he'll be the next one on
Speaker 6: the target. You know. Israel is kind of like next
Speaker 6: man up when it comes to this decapitation strategy. We
Speaker 6: saw what they did and let in the North with
Speaker 6: Hesbelah taking out significant leadership with the Pajer operation. This
Speaker 6: is much more difficult, much more precision strikes. But this
Speaker 6: is a good start, but surely not over yet.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So the reason we wanted to have you on
Speaker 5: was the news came out yesterday that Israel is ready
Speaker 5: to attack Iran. They are going to attack Iran, and
Speaker 5: it is going to be before the election, so sometime
Speaker 5: in the next nineteen days. I would imagine sooner rather
Speaker 5: than later, because the closer you get to a presidential election,
Speaker 5: the more influence it would have on it. What do you.
Speaker 6: Expect to happen, Well, I think the administration is going
Speaker 6: to no longer put lines on our allies, which is
Speaker 6: what they've been doing for the past few months. And
Speaker 6: we saw yesterday, now what it was, we saw the
Speaker 6: B two's coming from the US to drop bombs on
Speaker 6: the Hoofis. I think that's a good sign. That's that's
Speaker 6: that's an indirect message to the Iranians to stop taking
Speaker 6: our threats lightly.
Speaker 5: Just just since you you brought that up. I just
Speaker 5: saw that headline. So that's the first time we had
Speaker 5: used our B two bombers are really big bombers in
Speaker 5: quite a while. That's a fairly significant thing.
Speaker 6: Huh it is, and and they go along way, those
Speaker 6: are nuclear capable, not that we're going to drop a
Speaker 6: nuclear weapon on anybody over there, but it just it
Speaker 6: just reflects the level of weapon system that we've brought
Speaker 6: into the theater now that we're prepared to use. It's
Speaker 6: not just going to be these naval assets and and
Speaker 6: other places. So I think that's that's a you know,
Speaker 6: we're good at sending messages. That sends a big message
Speaker 6: on a lot of levels. But I would take it
Speaker 6: a step further. If I'm the US president or the
Speaker 6: chiefest Staff, you're advising the president and you're meeting behind
Speaker 6: doors with bbing net and Yahoo. Right now, Look, this
Speaker 6: is a generational opportunity to take out the Iranian nuclear capability.
Speaker 6: And there's Reel has done this in the past. And
Speaker 6: if if I'm aw, I'm saying, look, we're all in, well,
Speaker 6: we'll go ahead and light the way for you guys.
Speaker 6: We'll take out all the fea ed, we'll take out
Speaker 6: all your defense platforms. But you guys got to go
Speaker 6: accomplish that mission because the world will be a safer
Speaker 6: place when the Ranians aren't close to having nuclear weapons.
Speaker 6: We're traveling about. You know, how close are they to
Speaker 6: break out? We're watching internal Iranians argue about the fought
Speaker 6: while that the Iatola issue that they wonn't produced nuclear weapons,
Speaker 6: that's a bunch of garbage. I mean, obviously they're moving
Speaker 6: it forward. So I think this is the time, and
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of things going to happen
Speaker 6: the next nineteen days before our election, and you're going
Speaker 6: to see this administration also come off, you know, the
Speaker 6: rains a little bit because they recognize that that's what
Speaker 6: most Americans want, and what they want to do is
Speaker 6: get re elected. This administration wants to get reelected. And
Speaker 6: I think that's what you're going to see, so less
Speaker 6: less red lines for Israel going to see is real
Speaker 6: kind of go forward. But they were going to go
Speaker 6: forward anyway. But I think you're going to see that happening.
Speaker 5: Wow, that's interesting. I didn't know that would be your take.
Speaker 5: I'm happy to hear it. So you think we would
Speaker 5: actually use some of our unique firepower to lay the
Speaker 5: groundwork for Israel's attack, In other words, we would be
Speaker 5: involved in the attack on Iran.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. I think we would. You know,
Speaker 6: that would be a big step forward. Yeah, would for
Speaker 6: us to attack, Yeah, I mean, but I think you'd
Speaker 6: have tremendous support to do that. I think that they
Speaker 6: would be support within our country and with our politicians
Speaker 6: to do that.
Speaker 5: Not great Britain and France though, yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 6: Saw that, and where they are they're struggling with their
Speaker 6: own you know, internal forces right now. But politically this
Speaker 6: would be the right move at this point. So again,
Speaker 6: they don't the Israel doesn't need them, and Israel's going
Speaker 6: to have long memory about how they acted, especially in
Speaker 6: particularly the French. But with the French have done this before.
Speaker 3: I mean you look in history and sure.
Speaker 6: The French haven't been the French haven't been a thing
Speaker 6: militarily since what April of nineteen thirty nine, I mean
Speaker 6: since then, since right before Dunkirk. You know, they were
Speaker 6: the greatest military ever in the world, and then you know,
Speaker 6: pretty much over a four day period that that went
Speaker 6: away and they haven't recovered since.
Speaker 5: So well, what was it? I don't know, you might
Speaker 5: know it. I read the Schwartz Cough quote about France
Speaker 5: the other day that going to war without France is
Speaker 5: like something going to something without a banjo. Or something.
Speaker 5: It's pretty funny.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, so again, you know, they pick a
Speaker 6: choose when they want to be in the game. And
Speaker 6: you know, so I don't think, you know, Israel this
Speaker 6: rolls arise, doesn't doesn't really care about it. The United
Speaker 6: States is the one that's superpower in the region, and
Speaker 6: Israel's acting like a superpower. Let's be clear, right, So
Speaker 6: here's a well, Israel has nuclear weapons as well, but
Speaker 6: so but they act like a superpower. They're going after leadership,
Speaker 6: looking to decapitate. It's all air strikes using tremendous intelligence assets,
Speaker 6: you know. So they're they're acting like a superpower in
Speaker 6: that region. And what I'm seeing too is other countries
Speaker 6: now Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt quietly so these other
Speaker 6: countries recognize the threat of iron. They want Israel to
Speaker 6: take out the threat as well. In the United States. Now,
Speaker 6: I'm glad we're going after the houtis. It's been a
Speaker 6: long time coming since since since we've had, you know,
Speaker 6: done something about that situation. So you know, I think
Speaker 6: you're going to see this stepped up reliance on de terrence.
Speaker 6: We have as of right now, we have no deterrence
Speaker 6: that I see with Iran, Israel's going to re establish
Speaker 6: it and they're going to re establish it by hurting
Speaker 6: them pretty badly.
Speaker 5: Fantastic. I'm very excited about that. I grabbed the popcorn.
Speaker 5: I'll be watching that and it's got to happen in
Speaker 5: the next you know, nineteen days before we let you go.
Speaker 5: I want to switch to another spot because President Zelensky
Speaker 5: of Ukraine has laid out his peace plan or plan
Speaker 5: for ending the war. I guess he's calling it that
Speaker 5: includes giving up no Ukrainian territory. I don't know if
Speaker 5: he actually believes that or not, or if that's you know,
Speaker 5: your classic pegging the negotiations. This is where we'll start
Speaker 5: and go from there. But what do you think about
Speaker 5: where that is?
Speaker 6: I think he has to say that he has to
Speaker 6: start and go from there first of all. But and
Speaker 6: he'll be lucky to get some of that the coastalaria
Speaker 6: back in the south there from from Russia, given what
Speaker 6: it occupies, given what it has occupied since Obama was president,
Speaker 6: and then when Joe Biden was president, they decided to
Speaker 6: go after it again. They've got maximust objectives that it
Speaker 6: still can't be accomplished militarily. I saw this morning also
Speaker 6: that if the new NATO Secretary General speaking to the
Speaker 6: fact of you know, Ukraine will be a NATO country,
Speaker 6: that's that's not gonna help anybody. That's that's you know,
Speaker 6: we should just be quiet on that. But then you
Speaker 6: have Zelinski saying, well, we're going to develop nuclear weapons
Speaker 6: if we're not part of NATO. So they're using nuclear
Speaker 6: weapons as a way as defense mechanism. It's too late
Speaker 6: at this point. Let's let's you know, Russia will take
Speaker 6: some land back, primarily Crimea. They need Crimea for the
Speaker 6: Black Sea Fleet. Let's hope Ukraine gets some of that
Speaker 6: coastalaria back, which is what it can use. But it
Speaker 6: looks like that part of the Dombas likely becomes part
Speaker 6: of Russia. You have a d m Z set up.
Speaker 6: We have an North in South Korea. The wall is
Speaker 6: up every what he's good because it's going to mean
Speaker 6: more conventional arms pouring into the Europe and the US
Speaker 6: defence contractors are going to be happy about that.
Speaker 5: North Korea blowing up those roads between North Korea and
Speaker 5: South Korea, which was an odd move. Earlier in the week,
Speaker 5: he got China with some of the biggest military exercises
Speaker 5: around Taiwan they've ever done, still running their ships into
Speaker 5: Philippines navy vessels. There's a lot of hotspots around the world.
Speaker 5: Kind of a global macro question for you, is this
Speaker 5: are we in more of the like this is what
Speaker 5: the world's always been like? Is period right now? And
Speaker 5: we kind of got lolled into a weird state of
Speaker 5: you know, things being calm there for a couple of
Speaker 5: decades when we were the superpower really establishing a global order.
Speaker 5: Was that more normal for the world or is this
Speaker 5: more normal for the world where we.
Speaker 6: Are right now? We got lolled into it a little bit.
Speaker 6: And it all has to do if we he's established
Speaker 6: we've not established the terrence in these other countries we've allowed.
Speaker 6: Look with the Iranians, how much they were able to
Speaker 6: arm hesbe law and how mans you know, you see
Speaker 6: these pictures of those weapons, caches, those all those weapons
Speaker 6: are a clear a result of the Obama administration sending
Speaker 6: palats of cash to the Iranians to try to do
Speaker 6: a nuclear deal. So we we again lost our way
Speaker 6: with the terrence, and and so did Israel. Israel, Uh
Speaker 6: probably will never forgive itself for what happened on October seventh,
Speaker 6: because that was a tremendous lull, and in fact, they
Speaker 6: got off to a very bad start as well in
Speaker 6: that war. We knew that they would recover. But now
Speaker 6: that's why they're not stopping. They are, you know, very
Speaker 6: biblically they're at this is this is how they're looking
Speaker 6: at this is his war. But I think I think
Speaker 6: that in in Obama's administration, we lost our determce with Iran.
Speaker 6: Trump as president for four years, he definitely acts tougher
Speaker 6: and acts more afraid, kind of goes the the Reagan
Speaker 6: way of de terrence about speak softly, carry a big stick,
Speaker 6: and that crazy every once in a while. And then
Speaker 6: these last four years with with with Brydon and col
Speaker 6: I just don't know what's where they're going. They again
Speaker 6: they give red lines to our allies, which is a
Speaker 6: non starter. They were telling Israel, we whip saw back
Speaker 6: and forth with Israel supporting them and not supporting this.
Speaker 6: And it's based on a voting block where in Michigan
Speaker 6: or Minnesota someplace. I mean, it's just we've got to
Speaker 6: get back to what's important for the United States. What's
Speaker 6: important for our national security and how we're going to
Speaker 6: project power, and I hope we start doing that again.
Speaker 5: Appreciate your time to Mike today. Mike, I follow you
Speaker 5: all the time and other people should at maj Mike Lions,
Speaker 5: Major Mike Lines. Thanks for your time today and insight
Speaker 5: on all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 6: I'll be on CNN later so hopefully cool to.
Speaker 5: Ye tune it in. Yeah, the world was better when
Speaker 5: everyone was too scared of us to do a lot
Speaker 5: of the things have been happening over the last decade
Speaker 5: or so, with as he said, Iran feeling free to
Speaker 5: arm whoever the hell they want, and China feeling like
Speaker 5: they can do whatever they want, and Russia feeling like
Speaker 5: they can invade another country. And it ain't good. Wow,
Speaker 5: he thinks we're gonna fully get involved in a war
Speaker 5: on Iran. I mean, we would be at war with
Speaker 5: Iran at least briefly. We start bombing that country and
Speaker 5: laying the groundwork. I'd be a heck of a move
Speaker 5: out of Joe Biden. It doesn't fit his personality. I
Speaker 5: wonder who convinced him of that. I wonder if he's
Speaker 5: making the decision. There's a good question. Right there is
Speaker 5: Joe Biden making that decision? Or is that Anthony Blincoln?
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Speaker 5: the music group One Direction died last night. Looks like
Speaker 5: he might have killed himself. It's getting tremendous media coverage.
Speaker 5: I want to talk a little bit about why on that,
Speaker 5: even if you don't know who it is. And a
Speaker 5: bunch of other things on the way, stay here, Armstrong,
Speaker 5: Hey yetti.
Speaker 7: Liam Payne, a former member of the boyband One Direction,
Speaker 7: has died after falling from the third floor of a
Speaker 7: hotel in Buenos Aires. It's unclear if it was an accident.
Speaker 7: His body was found on a patio. Liam Payne was
Speaker 7: just thirty one years old.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he went One Direction downm here's crank up the music.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 5: Here's the song from One Direction. That's the band he
Speaker 5: was in. This is song is called Story of My
Speaker 5: Life and the only reason I want to bring this up.
Speaker 5: Crank it up a little bit, Michael, I actually really
Speaker 5: liked this song. Yeah, this is a I like this
Speaker 5: song too. My kids loved it when they were really little,
Speaker 5: when they were like, I don't know four and two.
Speaker 5: We would listen to this in the car all the time.
Speaker 5: Here's the book here, Yes, and this has got Harry
Speaker 5: Styles in it, right, Who's a giant, giant star and
Speaker 5: a huge talent. What I think is interesting about this
Speaker 5: is I couldn't have told you this guy's name. All
Speaker 5: of these boy bands have the same thing. Happened pretty
Speaker 5: much in sync Backstreet Boys, because Timberlake was an in
Speaker 5: sync guy, right, Yes, And there's usually one person that
Speaker 5: emerges as a giant on going star. I remember Beyonce
Speaker 5: was in.
Speaker 8: Destiny's Child, right, People forget that she was even part
Speaker 8: of that.
Speaker 5: But the other people in the groups, and you can
Speaker 5: cut the music now, Michael. Other people in the groups
Speaker 5: often their lives go really bad for some reason. So
Speaker 5: it's like this guy that was in one direction. So
Speaker 5: I don't know how old he was. I remember I
Speaker 5: saw him on Saturday Night Live as first time I
Speaker 5: ever saw him sing this song. We watched that a
Speaker 5: bunch of times. It was pretty cool, but you know,
Speaker 5: you're like twenty years old. Chicks are throwing themselves at you.
Speaker 5: You're flying around in a private jet and belmoed everywhere
Speaker 5: and you're on all these TV shows, and I mean,
Speaker 5: you're just you're the hot. You can't even believe your life.
Speaker 5: It's so amazing, and then it completely goes away and
Speaker 5: you got nothing. And they usually don't make much money.
Speaker 5: I know One Direction didn't because I'd read some about it.
Speaker 5: Harry Styles goes off the giant Fame, win's Grammy for
Speaker 5: Best Album last year, all that sort of stuff, right,
Speaker 5: but you're you're kind of nobody anyway. Apparently the story
Speaker 5: on this dude is his super hot girlfriend drumped him.
Speaker 5: He dumped him, he got all drunked up, smashed his
Speaker 5: computer in the lobby of the hotel there in Buenos
Speaker 5: Aires yesterday. Then I think jumped off the balcony. Right,
Speaker 5: the story of his life is splat really, Oh jeez,
Speaker 5: I knew you.
Speaker 8: I knew you were gonna just just jump right into
Speaker 8: a jack. So this guy, he actually so One Direction
Speaker 8: went on a hiatus in twenty sixteen, and he.
Speaker 5: Pursued a solo career. Yeah, they all pursued solo careers.
Speaker 5: Didn't do all that.
Speaker 8: Great, all do And TMZ kind of stepped in it.
Speaker 8: Yesterday they released a bunch of pictures of the guy's
Speaker 8: hotel room and then deleted him like right away. But
Speaker 8: there were a bunch of burnt pieces of foil all
Speaker 8: over the place, which usually that's a drug.
Speaker 5: Like an opioid thing.
Speaker 8: He looks like he punched or put a baseball bat
Speaker 8: through the TV in there.
Speaker 5: And yeah.
Speaker 8: The the nine one one call that was released and
Speaker 8: then redacted was a guy from the hotel saying, Hey,
Speaker 8: we have this guy. He is acting out of his
Speaker 8: head and we're worried he's gonna hurt himself. He hangs
Speaker 8: up with nine one one, then calls back and says,
Speaker 8: we just need an ambulance because it was after he
Speaker 8: had Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 5: The other thing I'm interested in is how much attention
Speaker 5: it's getting. I was looking up at my TV a
Speaker 5: while ago, and Fox, CBS, and CNN were all covering
Speaker 5: it at the same time. I couldn't have told you
Speaker 5: the guy's name for a million dollars, even though I
Speaker 5: was aware of one direction. So, man, those boy bands
Speaker 5: are girl bands. If you're not the star, it'd be
Speaker 5: a tough transition back to real life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: See when that is over, I can't imagine it, would
Speaker 5: you know? The whole Is it better to have loved
Speaker 5: and lost than never loved at all? Is it better
Speaker 5: to be a giant star when you're nineteen and have
Speaker 5: all that and lose it or to never have it?
Speaker 5: I think you might be better never having had it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it would be hard to ever get back to normal
Speaker 5: after that.
Speaker 3: Oof.
Speaker 5: I wonder what Harry Styles thinks of it. We're to
Speaker 5: talk to Joe maybe you've heard of him coming up
Speaker 5: in a little bit, and we'll probably discuss the Kamala
Speaker 5: Harris Brett Baer interview or as a as a part
Speaker 5: of the topic. He will be horrified that we even
Speaker 5: mentioned the guy from one direction. That's all on the
Speaker 5: way stay with.
Speaker 3: Us, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 9: Not to mention how Donald Trump has has treated and
Speaker 9: talked about America's military and military service people, calling accepts
Speaker 9: and losers.
Speaker 3: Has diminished significant over each other.
Speaker 9: I apologize, and I would like that we would have
Speaker 9: a conversation.
Speaker 5: So that's a little bit of Brett bar and Kamala
Speaker 5: Harris yesterday from the Big Interview. Joe Getty joined us.
Speaker 5: I got something I want to play for you, Joe,
Speaker 5: and I want you to respond to all right, because
Speaker 5: I'm guessing you have not heard this. This is Morning
Speaker 5: Joe's Mika Brazinski on her take on the interview.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to get viewers an opportunity to actually
Speaker 1: hear her plans as president. Instead, as you saw, it
Speaker 1: almost immediately devolved into an embarrassing bad faith effort by
Speaker 1: a once respected host to play to an audience of
Speaker 1: one the hosts constant rude interruptions. We're designed to distract
Speaker 1: from the issues and facts that Trump and his accolytes
Speaker 1: try and twist and distort every day, and on Fox
Speaker 1: News they try and avoid and they couldn't.
Speaker 5: How do you like that?
Speaker 10: That's some fine panderin I mean, you can call her
Speaker 10: a twit if you want, but that is some great
Speaker 10: a pander.
Speaker 5: Did you get a chance to see well, do you
Speaker 5: want to tell people where you are?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Greetings from scene in Monterey, California, where I'm staying with
Speaker 10: a bunch of buddies for our annual golf trip to Monterey.
Speaker 10: And it is actually, in effect a fine focused group
Speaker 10: of patriotic conservative gentlemen.
Speaker 5: Which of the famous courses are you going to play?
Speaker 3: We will be playing the Monterey Peninsula Country Club of
Speaker 3: courses both of them.
Speaker 5: I don't know anything about that, but I assume they're lovely.
Speaker 3: It's astonishing. Yeah, it's amazing, Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 5: Have you been to the aquarium with the fish this trip?
Speaker 3: No, No, many, many times, but not this trip. This
Speaker 3: is all about golf, beef and liquor.
Speaker 5: But did you get a chance to watch Breton Kammel?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah.
Speaker 10: In fact, one carload of the guys who was a
Speaker 10: little late getting here, so we paused it waiting to
Speaker 10: watch it, and all of us doing a bit of
Speaker 10: a peepe dance waiting for them to get there because
Speaker 10: we were so excited to watch it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I watched it with athiduts and guys.
Speaker 5: Okay, so I had a bit of a focus group.
Speaker 5: And what was the takeaway?
Speaker 3: Oh, a great deal of heckling.
Speaker 5: You know, I imagine you're all white men for one thing.
Speaker 3: Well you imagined.
Speaker 10: Well, as it turns out, you know, nobody was a
Speaker 10: huge Kamala Harris fan, and nobody was terribly.
Speaker 3: Impress my takeaway.
Speaker 10: And again, I was just trying to watch it from
Speaker 10: the perspective of will any undecided voters use this as
Speaker 10: important data and making their decision?
Speaker 3: Was the ball moved up or down the field.
Speaker 10: I just I think my main takeaway is that the
Speaker 10: Biden Harris record is terrible, disastrous on the border.
Speaker 3: And crime and inflation.
Speaker 10: And I think she did not have any adequate or
Speaker 10: inspiring answers to explain why that was in the past,
Speaker 10: and she would lead us to a bright new dawn.
Speaker 5: Well it's because Brett behar wouldn't let her answer the questions.
Speaker 3: Because of his belligerence and misogyny. Correct.
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know if she came out of there
Speaker 5: better or worse for the audience of undecided voters, which
Speaker 5: is the only audience that matters. Everybody else has made
Speaker 5: their minds up. So whether she did or so, I
Speaker 5: gotta say, if I had to guess, I think she
Speaker 5: did herself more good than harm. She did get angry
Speaker 5: in a like a believable real emotion sort of way.
Speaker 5: This was the first time I'd ever seen like any
Speaker 5: real anything out of her, which I would think would
Speaker 5: help her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 10: Forceful, but not unhinged, and she avoided sounding like a
Speaker 10: complete moron. Absolutely, of course, is what I was rooting for,
Speaker 10: speaking for myself, and I was disappointed, But yeah, she
Speaker 10: came off as more intelligent than she has in the past.
Speaker 5: So, well, since you're having kind of a party weekend,
Speaker 5: maybe you haven't been able to take in all the
Speaker 5: follow up. But Brett explained later she showed up seventeen
Speaker 5: minutes late.
Speaker 3: Oh it was that late.
Speaker 5: She so they only had like a half hour scheduled,
Speaker 5: and so they recorded it right before his show is live,
Speaker 5: and so there were time constraints and she rolled in
Speaker 5: super late. So he was actually sitting there looking at
Speaker 5: his notepad thinking, okay, well, I'm gonna have to scratch this.
Speaker 5: I'm going to have to scratch this if she gets here,
Speaker 5: and looking at his watch, and then she rolls in.
Speaker 5: And so that's why it ended so abruptly and weirdly,
Speaker 5: and it didn't have the flow he was probably hoping
Speaker 5: for because of the you know, you know that was
Speaker 5: on purpose that she rolled in late.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 10: And whether it was or wasn't, we've experienced this so
Speaker 10: many times. A politician's goal is to have you ask
Speaker 10: one question, then they fil abuster as long as they
Speaker 10: possibly can so as to chew up the time, and
Speaker 10: she was doing that as fast and hard as she could.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I opened the show talking about that that
Speaker 5: I feel like, I said, I don't want to speak
Speaker 5: for Joe, but speaking for myself, I don't feel like
Speaker 5: I've ever had a successful interview with a politician that
Speaker 5: I was trying to challenge. It's way harder than you
Speaker 5: think it is. If you think it's easy to do,
Speaker 5: you're wrong, because they you've either got to be like
Speaker 5: a jerk interrupting them and cutting him off, or you're
Speaker 5: not going to get anywhere. And that balance is tough.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was actually the conversation after I was trying
Speaker 10: to explain that, and especially you know the male female time.
Speaker 10: If Brett, who's a fairly you know, large male leaning
Speaker 10: forward in his chair five feet away from her, is
Speaker 10: just flat bullying her from the perspective you know, viewer
Speaker 10: in the undecided voter, that's a terrible, terrible look. See,
Speaker 10: you've gotta you know, you got to moderate it a
Speaker 10: little bit.
Speaker 5: How about your drinking. You to moderate your drinking or you're.
Speaker 3: Eating actually uh yes, no, no, you know how.
Speaker 5: Many times you live, yolo, You know how many times
Speaker 5: you live? I asked my kids this all the time.
Speaker 5: How many times do you live?
Speaker 3: Let me excuse me, did you.
Speaker 10: Hear what Jack said, Oh, my liver, my liver weighing in.
Speaker 3: I was trying to be cool about it. Hello, God,
Speaker 3: dang it, I was.
Speaker 10: I was feeling pleasantly full after dinner and they brought
Speaker 10: out the dessert menu and I'm thinking, not, I don't
Speaker 10: need that or anything. Dig this pumpkin bread pudding with
Speaker 10: a scoop of ice cream and some sort of orgasm sauce.
Speaker 3: It was unbelievably good.
Speaker 5: I wish you hadn't said that part. But I love
Speaker 5: bread pudding in general. Pumpkin bread pudding with ice cream.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's tremendous.
Speaker 5: I'll take the orgasm sauce on the side, or.
Speaker 3: Well I did. I'm still a little sleepy at it.
Speaker 3: I was groping for a descriptor.
Speaker 5: That's not the right one. Oh sorry, Oh god, that's horrifying.
Speaker 10: So yeah, broad takeaway, I think the football remains more
Speaker 10: or less where it was on the field.
Speaker 3: Although a couple of times.
Speaker 10: And we've talked about this more than once, I've come
Speaker 10: away from something like this, whether the debate or what
Speaker 10: have you, thinking, Yeah, no real points for scored or whatever.
Speaker 10: But then they ask undecided voters and they say boy,
Speaker 10: she didn't.
Speaker 3: Give me anything.
Speaker 10: Well, because they're looking for something positive, not just for
Speaker 10: her to avoid looking like a moron.
Speaker 5: Well, I think we struck upon something Katie and I.
Speaker 5: Earlier in the show, I was talking about the the
Speaker 5: undecided voter panels that I've been watching, and I've seen
Speaker 5: quite a few of them. I had spent my adult
Speaker 5: life thinking undecided voters were probably morons, or the idea
Speaker 5: that low information voters, so they just don't have much information.
Speaker 5: And that's not the case at all. On any of
Speaker 5: the panels that I've seen. They're not morons at all,
Speaker 5: and they are definitely not low information. So how are
Speaker 5: they undecided? And we figured that as Katie brought up
Speaker 5: somebody that she used to date that couldn't make a decision,
Speaker 5: like it took what would you say, took an hour
Speaker 5: forty five?
Speaker 8: It took it took an hour and forty minutes for
Speaker 8: him to pick out a pair of flip flops want it?
Speaker 8: And we went to a restaurant once and he looked
Speaker 8: at me with the menu in his hand and went,
Speaker 8: I'm panicking.
Speaker 5: So it's people who can't make decisions either.
Speaker 3: It's a deal breaker that is.
Speaker 5: It's the undecided voters. They're not low information, they're not dumb.
Speaker 5: They they're people that can't make decisions. It's if you're
Speaker 5: one of those people. And so for the first time
Speaker 5: I understand it, And well, how you how you impress
Speaker 5: those people? I can't even imagine, given.
Speaker 10: The troublesome choice presented to us, we the voters this
Speaker 10: time around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you're a huge Trump fan or a huge
Speaker 3: Kama fan.
Speaker 10: But I think a lot of people in the middle
Speaker 10: are not terribly inspired by either one. I think what
Speaker 10: you're describing is even a bigger factor because you know,
Speaker 10: you just you don't want to decide.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the percentage of people that are undecided is
Speaker 5: shrinking day by day. It's down to like four percent
Speaker 5: in most of the Swing states. I don't know how
Speaker 5: many people that would add up to. But I don't
Speaker 5: know anybody who would be undecided, not a single human.
Speaker 5: So it's hard for me to picture them.
Speaker 10: Yeah, at this late date, I wonder if that's why
Speaker 10: they percent.
Speaker 3: As you know, it's like triple what it would take
Speaker 3: to win the Swing States.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, but uh, what was I gonna say? Oh,
Speaker 5: maybe that's why they turn to giving people stuff. At
Speaker 5: the end, you're undecided, but that guy's gonna cut my
Speaker 5: taxes or she's gonna give me this, and you just
Speaker 5: go with that.
Speaker 3: Well they yeah, they just flow throw a flurry.
Speaker 10: Of of offers and enticements and empty promises and just
Speaker 10: hope one of it, one of them sticks with somebody.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 5: One other thing I mentioned to you since you weren't
Speaker 5: here and listening to it had Mike Lions on earlier.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I missed that.
Speaker 5: Talking about Israel. First of all, Sinhar's dead, the leader.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they think that that's the case.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's not think Have you seen the pictures. That's good,
Speaker 5: that's clearly him and he and life. Yeah they're gruesome.
Speaker 10: Oh but he eyes one blew this way, one blew
Speaker 10: that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a that's a tasteless joke, but I suppose
Speaker 5: not bad considering it's a leader of Hamas or other
Speaker 5: tasteless joke. Was the guy, uh, the singer who's dead.
Speaker 5: He only went one direction down.
Speaker 3: Oh lord, one direction guys.
Speaker 5: This past yeah, oh yeah, it's a big story today.
Speaker 8: For some reason, he jumped off a balcony and that
Speaker 8: was that was Jack's fantastic joke that he had.
Speaker 3: You know, as jokes go, it's pretty good.
Speaker 5: But yeah, well was it gonna bring it? Oh, so
Speaker 5: we're talking to Mike Lines about Israel attack in Iran.
Speaker 5: I missed this story somehow. Yesterday we used B two
Speaker 5: bombers to bomb the Houthies and it's the first time
Speaker 5: we've used B two bombers in forever. I mean, that's
Speaker 5: a bit that's bringing out our biggest weapon, and that
Speaker 5: was partially a message to the rest of the world
Speaker 5: that hey, we have these, by the way, and we
Speaker 5: bombed the houthis. But my client says, we are going
Speaker 5: to bomb Iran and lay the groundwork for Israel to
Speaker 5: do the rest of it.
Speaker 10: Wow, number one. How did I missed that story too?
Speaker 10: But now I know?
Speaker 3: Wow, that is right interesting.
Speaker 5: I don't know what he has good sources, but he
Speaker 5: believes that the administration is going to for the first
Speaker 5: time take the gloves off and allow, you know, get
Speaker 5: involved and pave the way for Israel to do what
Speaker 5: they got to do.
Speaker 10: That is a very Unbiden Esque thing to do. I
Speaker 10: wonder that that he Blinken is finally convinced the Mummy.
Speaker 10: Well that's my question who made that decision? Secretary of
Speaker 10: State Lloyd Austin. They just said, mister president, could you
Speaker 10: sign this. It's the it's National Blueberry Day. We just
Speaker 10: need to sign this deck alone.
Speaker 3: Or the force Full Young fireband Kamala Harris. Maybe she
Speaker 3: talked him into it.
Speaker 5: Geez, oh my god, wow, I know. So that'd be
Speaker 5: a pretty big deal. And it's gonna happen. They're nineteen
Speaker 5: days left, it's been announced. It's happening before the election.
Speaker 3: So oh boy, spicy times just just not this week.
Speaker 10: Okay, I've got a tea time, I've got free tea times.
Speaker 5: You got more pumpkin bread with orgasm saucey eat?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no more, no more? Too full.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say it again, Katie. I see
Speaker 5: the looking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sts was too many. Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 8: Yeah, hey, thanks for setting the bar on the show, Joe.
Speaker 8: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Lets you go back to your vacation.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm here if you need me.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I probably should have just left that alone.
Speaker 8: It sounded so good. And then the sauce, yeah right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 5: He was just trying to describe something that was very
Speaker 5: very good man could have used yeah, something very pleasurable, right,
Speaker 5: but that was yeah, didn't paint the picture we were
Speaker 5: opening to paint. Nope, not at all. I do love
Speaker 5: bread pudding, though it's very seldom that if bread pudding
Speaker 5: is on a menu that I don't order it and
Speaker 5: make it pumpkin, get out of here. I haven't even
Speaker 5: never ever had that. It sounds fantastic with ice cream.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, give me a break. We got more on
Speaker 5: the way. Hey, weigh in on some of this stuff
Speaker 5: if you have any thoughts, because I'd like to know
Speaker 5: what they are. Text line four one five two nine
Speaker 5: five k FTC. I'm taking this down.
Speaker 1: I don't stare for this. There's GENNI side.
Speaker 5: I don't support it. This is not okay, this is greaky.
Speaker 5: Who's this?
Speaker 3: This is greeky? What greaky?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: I know this is real?
Speaker 3: My bad?
Speaker 5: So what happened there?
Speaker 11: That was a woman that there was flags outside a
Speaker 11: Greek restaurant, and so she decides she turned down thinking
Speaker 11: they were Israeli flags, and the owner came out and said,
Speaker 11: this is a Greek restaurant, those are Greek flags, those
Speaker 11: damn similar colors.
Speaker 5: It is shocking how many countries have the same colors
Speaker 5: for their flags. But yeah, how about you don't tear
Speaker 5: down any country's flags maybe Irans, but we're China's.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then I wanted to get this on And I
Speaker 5: actually just texted a friend of mine who lives in
Speaker 5: Salt Lake City to see if he has been there,
Speaker 5: because I would like an actual report. Hit me with this, Michael.
Speaker 12: Honestly, anytime I have to go to a gas station
Speaker 12: for whatever reason, especially being an Amazon worker, I have
Speaker 12: to use like facilities, I always.
Speaker 3: Come to Mavericks and I usually come to this one.
Speaker 3: It's it's really claimed.
Speaker 12: On the street where I work right now, there's the outhouses,
Speaker 12: but they're hot, stinky, and I mean covered in whatever
Speaker 12: have you and stuff wife on whatever was. So it
Speaker 12: is nice to have, you know, just four minutes down
Speaker 12: the road, be able to stop by and have an experience.
Speaker 4: Pa Seed.
Speaker 5: We base it on a criteria of cleanliness, visual appeal, functionality, innovation,
Speaker 5: and unique design elements. So tell us about that, Katie.
Speaker 8: Oh, Mavericks. They my parents live in Idaho and they
Speaker 8: are everywhere there. They are the best gas station on
Speaker 8: the planet. So somebody named them the best public restrooms.
Speaker 8: The restrooms at Mavericks gas stations always immaculate.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Interesting, I don't. I don't pay attention to brands
Speaker 5: that much when I'm traveling cross country, and I always
Speaker 5: stop at those great big truck stop things, so I
Speaker 5: wouldn't have noticed. But yeah, sometimes there they are. They're
Speaker 5: perfectly clean, smell clean, look clean, everything like that. You know,
Speaker 5: obviously that's not always the case you get to some
Speaker 5: unfortunate situation. I'll remember that. I'll keep that in mind
Speaker 5: if I'm I had a big intersection, I'm driving through
Speaker 5: the middle of nowhere, and you got a pilot over there,
Speaker 5: a Maverick's over here, all hit, the Mavericks hit, the
Speaker 5: Mavericks gotcha.
Speaker 8: Bathrooms are always clean, They've got yeah, I just I
Speaker 8: love that place.
Speaker 5: Not trying to disparage pilot bathrooms. They might be perfectly
Speaker 5: clean too. Like I said, I don't remember. The whole
Speaker 5: public restroom thing drives me nuts in the modern world,
Speaker 5: particularly in California, since they are almost non existent now. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they've almost done away with public restrooms everywhere. The number
Speaker 5: of times I especially noticed this when my kids were young.
Speaker 5: You know, Daddy, I gotta go and you got to
Speaker 5: stop somewhere, and they just don't have them. And it's
Speaker 5: because the homeless people in the drug addicts closed them
Speaker 5: all down, and so they all these businesses just decided
Speaker 5: it's easier to not have a bathroom than than to
Speaker 5: put up with, you know, having the homeless people hang
Speaker 5: around to sleep in there or shoot up in there,
Speaker 5: or wash their feet in the sink or whatever it is.
Speaker 5: And it's so freaking maddening.
Speaker 8: I know I brought this up before, but when Starbucks
Speaker 8: did that whole oh, anyone can use our restrooms, it
Speaker 8: was like two months later they only had a counter
Speaker 8: you could go in an order and get out because
Speaker 8: the homeless had destroyed the bathrooms and then it was
Speaker 8: spilling over into the stores.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I've talked about that. I don't know if
Speaker 5: it's still there, but is on the corner of like
Speaker 5: near Union Square in San Francisco, there's a Starbucks there
Speaker 5: and it is only you walk in the door and
Speaker 5: there's no place to even stand. It's just a counter
Speaker 5: and one employee. Everything else happens behind a wall to
Speaker 5: keep their employees safe. It's not like any Starbucks you've
Speaker 5: ever been to anywhere. And one person there will say
Speaker 5: what's your order, Then they'll go back behind the wall
Speaker 5: and bring back your coffee. No bathroom, no place to sit,
Speaker 5: no nothing. It's the only way they can make it
Speaker 5: safe enough to even have a Starbucks because it's Haiti.
Speaker 5: I mean San Francisco, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3: And Union Square?
Speaker 8: Yeah, like Vaton yea, and all of the stores that
Speaker 8: it's like appointment only now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tiffany's is over there. Yeah, Saint Laurent's over there,
Speaker 5: and a Starbucks that you can't go into is over
Speaker 5: here because it's too dangerous.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: Those stores you actually have too. If you haven't been there,
Speaker 5: you have to make an appointment to go into them,
Speaker 5: or you go to the front door. The doors are
Speaker 5: all locked and an armed guard outside looks you over
Speaker 5: and decides whether they're gonna let you in or not.
Speaker 5: And some of the nicest shopping in America. Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: just nuts. And you know, and when you have an
Speaker 5: environment like that, obviously there are no public bathrooms forget it.
Speaker 5: Which is which man's watch your step? Yeah, exactly disgusting.
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