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Speaker 3: What we know is that our thoughts are emotions. The

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Speaker 2: Alisa Bokan is a licensed marriage and family therapist. Relationship

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Speaker 1: And then I think about So we are diverse people

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Speaker 3: And these are ancient practices that really our ancestors were

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Speaker 3: This is What's worked for me, this is what I'm

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Speaker 5: That's what I'll say, you know, to wrap it up.

435
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: And so the field is still very what's the word

436
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: that I'm looking for, It can be very closed off

437
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: to anything that is considered alternative, right anything that is

438
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: considered alternative, and it's not empirically based right away. But

439
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: what we know is that, again, there are many paths

440
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: to healing, and sometimes the healing that we receive it's inexplainable.

441
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: I can't tell you why my foot stopped hurting after

442
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: my friend gave me a healing, like.

443
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 5: I can't.

444
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 3: Can I measure it only that I had the pain

445
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: before and I don't have it now, you know, and

446
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: so it is rare. And I think that's because many therapists,

447
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: myself included. You know, when I started to incorporate this work,

448
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: it was scary. You know, it's scary because you're you're

449
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: thinking about what are people going to think about this,

450
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: what are they going to say, et cetera, et cetera,

451
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: and so it can be really scary. But the thing

452
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: is you you can have different practitioners. You might not

453
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: find one that's doing both. I will say I have noticed,

454
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: and I you know, I'm in the Facebook groups with

455
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: all the therapists, and there are more therapists that are

456
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: incorporating let's say, meditation and mindfulness and reiki.

457
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: You know, I don't practice reiki. That's a different form

458
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 5: of energy healing.

459
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: But I know that there's more and more people out there,

460
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: and I think we're going to continue to see more

461
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: of it because things are changing, things are shifting, and

462
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 3: people are hungry for healing and they're hungry for again

463
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 3: in ways that really resonate with what's in our DNA.

464
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense. It's so encouraging to hear that too,

465
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: that we are alive during a time where there is

466
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: this big shift and we can all get this personal

467
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: healing that you know, I always think about how it

468
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 2: changes generations like this, this healing that we're doing just

469
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 2: isn't for us, right, It's for the young people that

470
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 2: come after us, and for you know, those in our

471
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: family members that are watching us and you know, viewing

472
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: us as role models. Now, I do want to kind

473
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: of go back to this quote of the day because

474
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm still curious about this chakras lining up with your partner,

475
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: because it's funny last saw this quot at least, I

476
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: was like, what does it say? Yeah, stamina during sex

477
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: is cool? And I'm like, wait, what's coming after this?

478
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 5: Because I thought that was like that was the thing

479
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 5: right there, Right, that's what we wanted.

480
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: But then you said, have you ever had your chakras

481
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: lined up with your partners and have the vibrate together.

482
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: Can we talk about how to enhance our sex lives

483
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: by using chakra work? Let's do it?

484
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 5: Yes?

485
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, if you really want to get even dive

486
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: in more into that, I would encourage people to explore tantra, right, So,

487
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: but that's not what I'm talking about. This is a

488
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: form of that, right, But really it is about learning

489
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: how again, everything is energy, and sex right is the

490
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: ultimate energy exchange. You are quite literally in one another's aura, right,

491
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: your bodies are as close as they can be, and

492
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: so learning how to control your energy and how to

493
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: focus your energy together.

494
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 5: I'm going to give you a really brief example.

495
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: So let's say for individuals with penises, their sexual energies

496
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: tends to get really stored and kind of stayed at

497
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: the root, right, that's kind of like where it is.

498
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: Whereas individuals with volvas and vaginas, right, a lot of

499
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: times during sex, yes, the sacral, but will be more

500
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: in our heart, right, like the heart energy. And so

501
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 3: for us learning how to kind of be able to

502
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: shift our energy to where it's moving throughout our entire body.

503
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: So we're engaging all of our chakras, right, We're engaging

504
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: all of our chakras. So what would it look like

505
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: to engage all of our chakras during sex.

506
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: Well, let's go through it, right.

507
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: So if I'm engaging my root chakra energy during sex,

508
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: I'm grounded. I'm in my body right like I'm present.

509
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm present in my body right. My partner is too.

510
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: We're here together all right, then the energy is coming up.

511
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: It's I'm in my sacral, which means I'm feeling sensual. Right,

512
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: I'm going with the flow. I'm like the element of water, right,

513
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: that's what's associated with sacral. So I'm feeling sentraal. I'm

514
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: going with the flow. And then I'm pulling up that energy.

515
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: I'm in my solar plexus. I'm confident, I'm confident in

516
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: what I'm feeling.

517
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 5: Right, I'm still grounded. I'm feeling sensual and I'm confident

518
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 5: in what I'm feeling. And then I'm bringing it up.

519
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: Ooh, my heart is included. Right, I'm bringing love to

520
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: this whole experience. We're both bringing love to this entire experience.

521
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: Everything is connecting. And then I bring it to my throat. Well,

522
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: my throat, I'm able to communicate what my desires are.

523
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm able to listen to my partner's desires and we're

524
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: exchanging that energy. Then I bring it to my brow

525
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: where it's intuitive. I'm intuitively moving. I'm intuiting into my

526
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: partner's body and their pleasure. And then I'm keeping my

527
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: crown open, which is what allows me to be inspired.

528
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 5: Right. And so if when we think of this and.

529
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: Energetic terms, I'm very visual visualize your energy going up

530
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: and down kind of like a conveyor, right, Like it's just.

531
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: So that's what it's.

532
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: Like when we're both in that state where we're connecting

533
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: all of our energies together. We're fully present and that's

534
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: how we're able to transcend sometimes. But it's that physical

535
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: experience to something that is that is more divine.

536
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: That was so helpful to see that visual. I never

537
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: thought about it that way, all right, y'all. I was

538
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: thinking about you ever know, how you know where you're

539
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: like in a place and as far as your environment

540
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: where you can just have sex and be fully present

541
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: and like you can make noises, whereas you're trying to

542
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: like do a quickie somewhere and maybe you have people

543
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: there and you're not able to be as open. That's

544
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: how I was kind of comparing the experience that you

545
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: talked about with Lisa and then the one where you

546
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: have to kind of be a little bit more closed off.

547
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: But it sounds like a full body experience. So thank

548
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: you for that. That is so helpful.

549
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 6: You're welcome, Yes, I I thoroughly appreciate that clarification because

550
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 6: you know, and I think, I guess My question is

551
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 6: is it possible for one person to one partner to

552
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 6: be fully there and have all of their chakras activated

553
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 6: and their partner not be there, not be in that

554
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 6: same space, And what does that look like?

555
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely possible for one of us to be

556
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: more present than the other. You're just not going to

557
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: have the same exchange of energy, right like, You're not

558
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: gonna have this, You're not going to have the same experience.

559
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: Even if you don't even think of this in energetic terms.

560
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: If I if I'm present and I'm here and I'm

561
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about how much I love you, and I'm

562
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: feeling so good, and maybe you're just focused on like

563
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: a quickie, right.

564
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 5: Like, We're not going to have the same experience.

565
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: There's not going to be that same exchange of energy.

566
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: You may end up maybe putting a lot more energy

567
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: into it than what you're receiving. And what we really

568
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: want is again, mutually satisfying experiences. We want, you know,

569
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: pleasure filled, mutually satisfying experiences, because that's what's so important.

570
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: The core of wellness for whatever it is, whatever it is,

571
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: is balance. There has to be an exchange of energy.

572
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: In everything that we do, mother nature shows us that

573
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: she doesn't. You know, there's times where she's giving us

574
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: and then there's times where she has to rest and

575
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: hold back. And so we are designed the same way,

576
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: and we have to have these exchanges of energy. I

577
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: can't always be in output mode. I have to be

578
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: able to receive also if I'm going to achieve a

579
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: state of wellness and balance.

580
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense. I'm looking at quotes on your Instagram, like, oh,

581
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: I want to get her perspective on this and all this.

582
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 5: And on this.

583
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: There's so many quots and they look so good. But

584
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: one that you have here is healing can also include crystals,

585
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: stage energy, cleaning, and orgasms. Can we talk about that.

586
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: Yes, because again there's okay, so there's so many pastive

587
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: healing and there's so many resources for healing, right, So

588
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: mother earth provides us with so much that we need.

589
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: And everything vibrates, right, So people that are into crystals,

590
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: you know, there's different vibrations for different crystals, sage. Yeah,

591
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: you know, like that's an ancient indigenous practice. This is

592
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: not something new. You hear about all the time. People's

593
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: mudge and stuff and burning stage. This isn't new, this

594
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: isn't ancient indigenous practice. And orgasms are very healing because

595
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: pleasure is healing. So if we think of this in

596
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: shaker terms and energetic terms and how we're vibrating so

597
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: high vibrations right, health wellness, that's when we tend to

598
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: be vibrating high. If you want to think of this

599
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: in a way that maybe is more easy to understand,

600
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: and think of your mood, right.

601
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 5: Think about when you're in a good.

602
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: Mood, you feel good, your body feels good, you feel open,

603
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 3: you feel receptive. So that's when you're vibrating high. When

604
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: you are in a low vibrating state, you're probably in

605
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: a bad mood, or you're feeling angry, or maybe you're

606
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 3: being sarcastic, or maybe you're in pain.

607
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 5: That's low vibration.

608
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: So think of an orgasm right, when you're having an

609
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: orgasm that is high vibrating, you know, energy, and it

610
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: can be incredibly healing in many ways. I mean just physically.

611
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: The benefits of orgasm. They help us to live longer,

612
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: they boost our immune system, they boost our mood. There's

613
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: so many benefits to that. So again there's many things

614
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: that you can include in your healing. The trick is

615
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: to find what is it that works for you? What

616
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: is it that resonates for you?

617
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 4: Yes, figuring out what works.

618
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: And I think part of what works in finding that

619
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: balance with our partners is about communication. And so can

620
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: you tell us about how we can improve our communication

621
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: style when we are integrating and engaging all of our chakras, Like,

622
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: what does that look like and why is that so important?

623
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: Yes?

624
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go back to similar to what

625
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: we talked about with the engaging all of your chakras

626
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: during sex. So think about this in terms of engaging

627
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: all of your chakras when you're communicating with somebody. So

628
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: let's say this is going to be a difficult conversation

629
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: you're going to have with your partner. You're feeling a

630
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: little unsettled, You're feeling a little uneasy. You know that

631
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: if they say this, one thing is going to set

632
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: you off right and you're going to get ungrounded.

633
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: So if I if I know I'm going to prepare.

634
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: For a difficult conversation, I am going to engage all

635
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 3: of my chakras. First thing I'm gonna do, I'm gonna

636
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: get nice and grounded route go down. So I'm going

637
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: to visualize my route because here's the thing where you're

638
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: intention goes, that's where your energy flows. So if I'm

639
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: bringing my attention and my attention to my to my root,

640
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: all right, I wanted to go down, I'm gonna visualize

641
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: it going down. So I'm gonna get nice and grounded,

642
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna feel very secure in what I'm about

643
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: to say. Then I'm going to incorporate my sacral. My

644
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: sacral is.

645
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: Again about being flexible and going with the flow.

646
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: So even though I'm confident in or I'm grounded in

647
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: my message, I'm also gonna stay flexible.

648
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Speaker 5: I want to hear what they have to say, but

649
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna.

650
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Speaker 3: Be using my soular And again, I'm gonna be very

651
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: confident in what I'm saying because I know what I know.

652
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Speaker 3: But I also know that I can be flexible. Right,

653
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Speaker 3: I feel confident about what I'm saying. But you know what,

654
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: I'm always going to include my heart. I'm always going

655
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Speaker 3: to include love as part of the conversation. We don't

656
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Speaker 3: want to leave that out. And then remember the throat.

657
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna have really clear and direct communication I'm gonna

658
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna speak my message because remember I'm saying it

659
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Speaker 3: with love, I'm saying it with confidence. I might be flexible,

660
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Speaker 3: but I'm grounded. And what I'm saying, I'm commanding my energy.

661
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Speaker 3: And then I'm also going to be listening. Right, I'm

662
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Speaker 3: gonna listen with love, because we forget that part of communication.

663
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna listen with love, and I'm gonna get curious,

664
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Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna use my intuition, okay, because this

665
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Speaker 3: is a difficult conversation.

666
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Speaker 5: Maybe it's my beloved, but maybe it's somebody else.

667
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Speaker 3: Right, So I'm gonna listen to what they're saying between

668
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Speaker 3: the lines. Right, I'm gonna use my intuition with that,

669
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to keep my crown open because I'm

670
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Speaker 3: going to be stay open for divine inspiration for.

671
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Speaker 5: Whatever it is that I need to be communicating.

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Speaker 3: So that's what it would be like to again use

673
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Speaker 3: all of your energy when you are communicating and really

674
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Speaker 3: be learning how to command your energy versus it just

675
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Speaker 3: kind of being all over the place.

676
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Speaker 2: That is so helpful, And what a way to just

677
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: go into a conversation clear, like you just go in

678
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: clear right, like, no aulterior motives, You're centered, You're grounded it.

679
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Speaker 2: I do want to know before we shift up the

680
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Speaker 2: energy for this interview. I do want to get your

681
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: perspective on something I think sometimes. I know when I

682
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: first started learning about this, it felt a little overwhelming

683
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Speaker 2: because I felt like, oh, I don't know exactly how

684
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Speaker 2: it works, and I felt like I had to know

685
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Speaker 2: the mechanics and the science. But then I thought about

686
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: how you know with electricity, I don't know how that microwave.

687
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Speaker 2: I don't know the intricacies with that microwave, or you know,

688
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: the light switch. I just have faith that it'll work

689
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: when I plug it in and when I turn it on.

690
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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that? Around you feeling like

691
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: you need to know how this all works and need

692
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Speaker 2: to have an answer for how your foot was healed

693
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Speaker 2: and all that when you're diving into this work.

694
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Speaker 5: I mean, I get it.

695
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Speaker 3: I always think of it like the engineer brain, right,

696
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Speaker 3: like I have like you know, people that I know

697
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Speaker 3: that they're engineers, they are like, nah, that doesn't make

698
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: any sense, right, So hey, part of me is that

699
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Speaker 3: I do have faith, but there actually has been work

700
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Speaker 3: that has been done on research. So there's a book

701
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember. I believe it's called Hands of

702
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: Light and it was written by I want to say,

703
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: don't quote me for sure, I want to say she

704
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: worked for Nasau our businesses I think so, so like

705
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: she has like this heavy science background and she's talking

706
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Speaker 3: about she's talking about this stuff.

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Speaker 5: So if you're.

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Speaker 3: Really interested in learning more, I would say, check out

709
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Speaker 3: something like that. The other piece I would say is

710
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: that one exercise you can do is like take your

711
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 3: hands right and then rub them together, you know, rub

712
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 3: them together and like really really fast, rub them together

713
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Speaker 3: and then kind of like pull them apart, kind of

714
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Speaker 3: like I'm not great at describing what I'm.

715
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Speaker 5: Doing right now.

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Speaker 3: You rub them together and then bring them together like

717
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: almost like you're holding a ball between them, and you

718
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: can feel the energy. You'll feel energy there, like, so

719
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 3: you might have to rub them a little bit longer,

720
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Speaker 3: but if you do that after a certain while a time,

721
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: you'll feel the energykind of like there. So whenever I

722
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: feel like I kind of feel it kind of like

723
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: bouncing off of one another. So some of this, yes,

724
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: it's difficult to explain, but try it out for yourself.

725
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: Try it out for yourself. If it doesn't go against

726
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: your values and your beliefs, you know, try it out

727
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: for yourself and some people. Again, I would say, don't

728
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: go into it with expectations, because what may happen for

729
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: you may not happen for somebody else. I know that

730
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Speaker 3: when I first started to get these healings, I'm a

731
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Speaker 3: very visual person, so I would have a lot of visualization,

732
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Speaker 3: but I would feel it in my body. Also, if

733
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Speaker 3: I had a particularly like heavy session, I might even

734
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Speaker 3: feel sick afterwards. I might even feel like I'm having

735
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Speaker 3: to purge, I have to you know, throw I felt,

736
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Speaker 3: I might feel like I have to vomit or something.

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Speaker 5: Or some people will fall asleep.

738
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Speaker 3: Usually I say, when you fall asleep, it's like you

739
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: really needed the healing because your body's, like I am,

740
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 3: in receptive mode. So I would say, more than anything,

741
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: as hard as it is, don't.

742
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Speaker 5: Go into it with expectations.

743
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Speaker 3: I'm so big in particular around this field because again

744
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: it's not regulated, and I know that a lot of

745
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: people that often go seeking alternative you know, I'll say

746
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: that in quotes. Alternative modes of healing can often find

747
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: themselves with people who take advantage of them. So I

748
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: would say, be very very selective and use a lot

749
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Speaker 3: of discernment because we are vulnerable when we're going into

750
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Speaker 3: these spaces.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

752
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Speaker 1: So I just want to say for the listeners at

753
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Speaker 1: home that as you were describing how to create that energy,

754
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Speaker 1: like I did it, like I was rubbing my hands

755
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: to get it like really really fast, and then like

756
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: I felt this warmth as I puld my hands apart,

757
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: Like I felt this warmth there. And so I could

758
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: imagine that as we are communicating with other people, communicating

759
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: with our partners, that when we feel like I think

760
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: about like when I get angry, like I feel that

761
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: heat rising in my body, right, or if I'm turned on,

762
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: then I feel that heat rising in my body. And

763
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: so I think that even if someone if there's still

764
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: like a little skeptical or unsure of how do I

765
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: identify energy? I think of like examples like that that

766
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: are like we are feeling it.

767
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Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Yes.

768
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Speaker 3: And again I mean the reality is we are energy.

769
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: What did Einstein say? Everything is energy? Energy can neither

770
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: be created nor destroyed, you know, like we just are

771
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 3: we are energy, right, we and we're so many different things,

772
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 3: but we are energetic beings, and everything that we do,

773
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: everything that we say, every thought, like, it gives off

774
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: a certain vibration. Right, So this is important for me

775
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: and why it's part of my practice is because if

776
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: I understand that, then it's just another way for me

777
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: to understand how to be responsible for what I'm bringing

778
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: into my relationships. You know, if I know, like, oh,

779
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: you don't want to be around me today, like my

780
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: energy is staying, you know, and then you can you know,

781
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: if you're curious about this, start doing some reading. You

782
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 3: might find some variances between how it's taught the way

783
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: that I was taught, maybe a little different from what

784
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 3: you read, you know, but start doing your own research.

785
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: Start doing your own research research, see what resonates with you.

786
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: Try out some of these exercises again. One that is

787
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: so simple is the heart meditations. Doing some heart meditation,

788
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 3: and I think this is common because I think all

789
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: of us have had a broken heart at some time,

790
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: you know, and just if you put your hands over

791
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: your heart center right now, right, you put your heart

792
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: hands of your heart center and you visualize just even

793
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: like pink light coming out of them, and just visualize

794
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 3: that you can you'll start to feel a shift.

795
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: In what you feel.

796
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: If you start thinking about somebody that you care about,

797
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: if you start thinking about a pet or a baby,

798
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: right like, you start to feel that energy, it starts

799
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: to shift in you. So yeah, try it out for yourself.

800
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: If it doesn't resonate with you, it doesn't resonate with you. Again,

801
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: there's many paths to healing.

802
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: So helpful, Lisa. I closed my eyes and tried it

803
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: and had to open them because I already felt emotional

804
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: and I was like, we gotta move on and shift

805
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: up the energy, so I had to stop.

806
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Speaker 4: But I'm with you. It does work for sure.

807
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: Now at Leasta, we've done this before, but we switched

808
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: it up just a little bit since you've last been

809
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: on the show. And because we recognize, appreciate, and celebrate

810
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: the multifaceted woman and believe that it's okay to be

811
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: classy and ratchet and you can still be elegant and

812
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: dance to strip club music, we want to invite you

813
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: to the oh you clatch it segment? Do you take

814
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: on the challenge for a second time?

815
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 5: I'll take it.

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00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: We love it when our guests are so excited, all right,

817
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: So a Lisa first question, We're going to go right

818
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Speaker 1: in twork or two step twork.

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Speaker 4: We love it.

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Speaker 5: They're both fun. But we love when we hear twerk.

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Speaker 2: What's one question or topic that you wish people asked

822
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: you about more often?

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00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: Hmmm, that's a great question, and I would say I'm

824
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: talking about it more now, especially with my podcast. But

825
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: how chakras and sex and relationships, how they're all connected,

826
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: and how increasing our knowledge about chakras can really help

827
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: us to upgrade our relationship and our sex life. So

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Speaker 3: thank you all for asking me these questions.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you are welcome.

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Speaker 1: All right, skip ahead in some of our questions because

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Speaker 1: I just I just want to go there because I

832
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: just have these guesses on what I think you're like

833
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: they would be. So what would your stripper name be?

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Speaker 5: What would my stripper name be? Let me think all

835
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 5: I was going to say flow and ease. I mean

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00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 5: that's brand, that's.

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Speaker 4: So on brand?

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, yes, now, Narli, So what song get you

839
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: on the dance floor at the Clever party?

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00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: What song gets me?

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00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: Well?

842
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 5: I think, when's the last time I've been?

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00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: I know, I know that's a triggering question, right.

844
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 5: There, geezh, what song gets me well?

845
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: I think for everybody, it's back that thing up right,

846
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: because you can't hear that, you hear that. It doesn't

847
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: matter who you are, You're going to get on that

848
00:46:58,840 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: dance floor.

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Speaker 2: So let's go west, right, Thanks nostalgia, it makes being

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00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: able to be on the dance floor. Thank you for

851
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: sharing that.

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00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is the last time I was able to

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Speaker 5: do that. I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Only So we just want to thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: We celebrate you. We always love having these great conversations

856
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: with you. They're always so insightful, and we love for

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Speaker 2: you to let our listeners know where they can find you,

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00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: what products or services you have, and how they can

859
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 2: get connected with you.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so you can follow me on social media.

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Speaker 3: I am at Elisa g Bokein at Flow and Ease

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00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: with e is my practice handle. I'm on Instagram, I'm

863
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: on Twitter. You can also start listening to the Chakra

864
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Speaker 3: Sex and Relationships podcast. You can go to my website

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Speaker 3: Flow and Ease Flow Flow Andeeshealing dot com. You can

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Speaker 4: Yay, thank you so so much.

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Speaker 5: You're so welcome. You all agree. I love being here,

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Speaker 5: so thank you for having me. This was fun. This

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Speaker 1: For joining us today. Please note that our show may

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Speaker 2: before we meet again, repeat after me, I'm aligned with

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week, Lady