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Speaker 1: We will start with with rio question for the pod.

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Speaker 1: Just saw a throwback clip when the Raiders drafted Janikowski

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Speaker 1: better chance of me hitting the fucking powerball than this happening.

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Speaker 1: But how once in a hundred years good would a

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Speaker 1: we have too many examples of undrafted free agents of

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Speaker 1: Pretty sure polarizing guy now, but justin Tucker undrafted free

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Speaker 1: Henry that we drafted. We let David Akers go. When

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Speaker 1: Standings are built on winning the series, not individual games.

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Speaker 1: And they're going to why because they're gonna get I

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Speaker 1: No different in the private sector. The college sport purists

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Speaker 1: John Sumrow is gonna learn. They're gonna be all Sark.

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Speaker 1: of exposure to something they're not comfortable with having. Exposure too,

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Speaker 1: so it's not it's odds are typically made where I

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Speaker 1: can get the most action on both sides. They don't

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Speaker 1: want it one sided, so they are on tilt if

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Speaker 1: it goes long. Longtime Listener actually grew up in San

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Speaker 1: Luis Obispo.

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Speaker 2: That's where I went to college.

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Speaker 1: Live in Maryland now and think about those Firestone Try

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Speaker 1: Tip sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: All the time me as well.

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Speaker 1: Elite's Greatest Firestone in San Luis Obispo and Doghouse Grill

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Speaker 1: in Fresno are the same restaurants, is obviously called two

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Speaker 1: separate things owned by the same guy. Dave Billingsley has

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Speaker 1: the greatest tri tip sandwich you will ever have, and

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Speaker 1: anyone that's ever had those tri tip sandwiches will agree

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Speaker 1: with me, cause I think anytime you hear that, you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've greatest slice of pizza, greatest cheeseburg. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: this is the greatest tri tip sandwich you have ever

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Speaker 1: or will ever have had. Their actual the manager in Fresno, Maddie,

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Speaker 1: who I used to work with when I was at

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Speaker 1: Fresno State, because we used to get tritip sandwiches for

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Speaker 1: the team sometimes like on Friday night before games is

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Speaker 1: doing like a five to seven right now for some.

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Speaker 2: For some fraud.

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Speaker 1: But Maddie was always cool to me. I always liked him,

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Speaker 1: knew his wife good. Yeah, I had you, budd, He's

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Speaker 1: he's he's in the clink right now. Was just listening

463
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Speaker 1: to your JSN podcast and you're talking about Jack's great name.

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Speaker 1: By the way, trouble sleeping. My first son, Calvin also

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Speaker 1: was a nightmare up until about ten weeks.

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Speaker 2: He's twelve weeks old.

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Speaker 1: Now at ten weeks we got him the Halo Baby

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Speaker 1: Merlin sleepsuit and now naps four to five times a

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Speaker 1: day in his bassinet and sleeps for five to seven

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Speaker 1: hours straight.

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Speaker 2: Here's a link.

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Speaker 1: I now see this looks like an ad, but I

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Speaker 1: promise you I'm just a normal thirty year old, first

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Speaker 1: time dad. I appreciate that. I today it kind of

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Speaker 1: hit me. I was like, I got nothing. Mentally, I'm

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Speaker 1: shooting blanks. I don't care how many peptides and nad

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Speaker 1: pluses and coffee cold bruise I drink like.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like I'm exhausted.

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Speaker 1: And every once in a while, those two three in

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Speaker 1: the morning, now he just.

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Speaker 2: He wakes up. He's gotta eat. He's gotta eat.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, I mean, I at eight, nine, ten weeks,

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Speaker 1: you're hopefully getting right over that mountaintop. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't even I couldn't even come up with a fugazi today.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I got nothing. You know.

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Speaker 1: The fugazi is me. The fugazzi is my mind that

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Speaker 1: is not working, that is like please just fire, come on,

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Speaker 1: let's go. But we're we're just grinding our way through it.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: I have it much better than she does. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just can't complain. Just very blessed to have a

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Speaker 1: healthy child. But you do get used to you know,

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Speaker 1: you think back of those times where just on a

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Speaker 1: random day, like Wednesday night, you can just you're like,

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Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm exhausted. I'm gonna get in bed at

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Speaker 1: like eight, you know, when you're single or married or whatever,

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Speaker 1: no kids, I'm just gonna get in bed at like

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Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Maybe I'll watch shows till ten. Maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: just go to bed, pop a couple of Melatonins and

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Speaker 1: be out by nine, especially on like a Friday or Saturday.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I might sleep for twelve hours

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Speaker 1: straight just to recharge the old batteries. That's not even

503
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Speaker 1: not an option now, it doesn't even cross your mind

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Speaker 1: of like what that would be like. So anyone get

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Speaker 1: in sleep right now. Parents with older kids are just

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Speaker 1: normal humans without kids. I'm jealous, bro, I'm really pretty jealous.

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Speaker 2: What's up? John loved the pot.

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Speaker 1: Hearing you talk more and more about golf had me

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Speaker 1: wondering what your handicap is.

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Speaker 2: How often do you try to play?

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Speaker 1: What are some of the strengths and weaknesses of your

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Speaker 1: game on paper? Right now, I'm a two, but I'm

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Speaker 1: probably I played the other day at Shout sevent Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably closer to a five. When I'm playing pretty well.

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Speaker 1: I was playing the best golf of my life before

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Speaker 1: Jack and I got down to about a two. You know,

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Speaker 1: with the strengths, I hit it pretty far. Short game sucks.

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Speaker 1: When I'm on I play a little baby cut I

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Speaker 1: played twice in twenty twenty five or twenty six, typically

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Speaker 1: pre child or.

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Speaker 2: Maybe as he gets older, and we start.

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Speaker 1: Playing sometimes like Wednesday or Thursday, just to get out

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Speaker 1: of the house. Usually not during football season because Thursday

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Speaker 1: night football, but like a Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll try

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Speaker 1: to go hit balls, you know, like four or five

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Speaker 1: in the afternoon in the springtime or in the summer,

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Speaker 1: and then typically play either Friday or Saturday. So I

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Speaker 1: probably play golf on average once a week.

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Speaker 2: That was pre child.

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Speaker 1: Now it's you know, I'm going back to back weeks.

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Speaker 1: I played last Saturday, playing again this Saturday. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I just you know, hit the lotto. But she

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Speaker 1: has a friend coming and we got some people coming over,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I can kind of bone out. I

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Speaker 1: just usually when I play, even in Arizona, I mean,

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Speaker 1: unless it's like one hundred and fifty, I walk like

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Speaker 1: I play with guys in a money game sometimes on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and it could be you know, anything up to like

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Speaker 1: one hundred and five and overall hopping the car. But

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Speaker 1: I just if we're playing on Saturday, I'm carrying my

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Speaker 1: bag and you know, you get a good get a

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Speaker 1: good sweat, you feel like you walked a bunch of steps.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of out there in the sun, so it's

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Speaker 1: popping a bunch of my zones and just enjoying myself.

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Speaker 2: It's really like.

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Speaker 1: One of the only times I'm social during the week,

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Speaker 1: which is weird because I talked for a living, but

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Speaker 1: I'm talking into a computer looking at myself. I know

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Speaker 1: you mentioned several times that your listeners are males, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure most are, but I am a female that

551
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Speaker 1: absolutely loves your show. I currently check Netflix or Apple

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Speaker 1: Music for your latest pot Maria watch Out. So you

553
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Speaker 1: are trying to think of what to call your listeners.

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Speaker 1: How about the Johnnies.

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Speaker 2: Don't hate that. I do have a question.

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Speaker 1: I'm a frustrated charge your fan because they seem to

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Speaker 1: discount shop for the O line and now we seem

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Speaker 1: to be screwed. Any thoughts on free agency for the

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Speaker 1: old line. Well, you have one of the highest paid

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Speaker 1: tackles in the league who got hurt last year. You

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Speaker 1: have a guy that you drafted fifth overall at the

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Speaker 1: other tackle spot who probably could be better than the

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Speaker 1: guy that's making a bunch of money. So you're all

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Speaker 1: in on the two tackle spots. Like I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to tell you on like guards and centers, Like

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Speaker 1: who are you supposed to buy? I would imagine they

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Speaker 1: will invest in in draft that position. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: drafted a running back in the first round last year.

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Speaker 1: They have a high priced quarterback. They have a high

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Speaker 1: priced I mean technically's on a rookie contract now. But

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Speaker 1: slot receiver who's a stud. They drafted what's his name,

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Speaker 1: Trey Harris from Ole Miss last year.

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Speaker 2: So to me, like, you can draft some offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 1: And I think the one thing that's gonna be not concerning,

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Speaker 1: but you just never know until it plays out, is

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Speaker 1: what's the defensive coordinator replacement for Jesse Minter? Because Jesse Mentor,

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Speaker 1: like Mike McDonald, was just a big time coordinator and

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Speaker 1: sometimes when you try to replace that guy, it's not

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Speaker 1: quite the same. And John Harbaugh I would tell you that,

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Speaker 1: and I think Jim Harbaugh is about to find that

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Speaker 1: out potentially.

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Speaker 2: Who knows?

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Speaker 1: What is one event sporting event that you want to

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Speaker 1: attend or recommend everyone trying to attend at least once

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Speaker 1: minus the Indy five hundred, Memorial Day weekend, fast cars,

587
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Speaker 1: patriotism concerts and booze not much better than at There

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Speaker 1: are things that I've never attended. Did I want to attend?

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Speaker 1: I would say the Kentucky Derby, the Masters I've never

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Speaker 1: been to. You know, an Indy five hundred, a NASCAR race,

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Speaker 1: I would love to do that.

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Speaker 2: I've been to. Obviously, you know.

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Speaker 1: Playoff baseball games, World Series, NBA Finals, been to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, been to playoff games, those are all cool.

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Speaker 1: I've never been to the Final four. I've never been

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Speaker 1: to a college football playoff game. I one thing I

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Speaker 1: would love to do is just go to an SEC

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Speaker 1: regular season game, so that that you know, my first

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Speaker 1: inclined to go Ole Miss, but you know, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Bring my wife.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if my child could go, but I

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss in the Grove would be one I would

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Speaker 1: want to do. University of Tennessee Knoxville would be one

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Speaker 1: I would like to do. Georgia lsu Bama, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's I would love to go to an SEC football game,

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Speaker 1: a Duke basketball game, Eglar season game would be really fun.

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Speaker 1: Those would be up there on my list. Love the pod,

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Speaker 1: Hope the sleep with the Little One is getting better?

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Speaker 1: The other guy about the baby Merlin Magic Sleepsack. I

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Speaker 1: told actually Marie about this earlier when I was taking

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Speaker 1: the pictures of this. I think you have to wait

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Speaker 1: till they're like twelve weeks to put him in. Funny enough,

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Speaker 1: the person who found the company is no other than

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Speaker 1: Will Howard's mother. Apparently Doylestown pa legend Will was a

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Speaker 1: bad sleeper. Anyway, This leads me to my question. I

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Speaker 1: get that six round picks don't get to start in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, but I feel like the general public has

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Speaker 1: it all backwards on him. Yes, he was a winner

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, but even before then he was a dog

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Speaker 1: at Kansas State. He led Kansas State to a bowl

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Speaker 1: game and won and performed well. Then this year at

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Speaker 1: Ohio State he had similar stats to Mendoza. The year

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Speaker 1: Mendoza's the poster child and Will Howard flies under the radar.

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Speaker 1: I get Ohio State's roster was better, but Indiana was

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Speaker 1: not bad whatsoever. Giants fan, by the way, which is

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Speaker 1: high on Will. Again, I don't think any of you

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Speaker 1: guys are wrong. Right Will's college career. You could argue

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Speaker 1: there's some parallels like bow Knicks. I mean, bo Nicks

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Speaker 1: was a first round pick. Will Howard starts at Kansas State,

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Speaker 1: transferred Ohio State has a bunch of success. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: a great parallel to Bonnicks because bo Nicks kind of

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Speaker 1: got run out of town, but you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just trying to talk about guys. He's transferred.

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Speaker 1: So Michael Pennix transfer from Indiana to Washington.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you why people are down on Will Howard.

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Speaker 1: He was obviously really good in that stretch. I do

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Speaker 1: think winning in Ohio state you just don't.

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Speaker 2: Get that much credit for.

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Speaker 1: You really don't fair not But based on how it's

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Speaker 1: going right now, he's gonna have a shot to impress McCarthy.

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00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: The coffin Corner or the Coffee Club. I don't hate

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Speaker 1: the coffee club. You mentioned needing a name for the

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Speaker 1: podcast followers. What if you merged podcast in middle cough

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Speaker 1: the pod COFs? See, I just you just know when

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Speaker 1: you hear it, the pod coffs I got. My first

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Speaker 1: reaction is no, when can we get some live shows

648
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Speaker 1: on the books this offseason? Or does your Netflix deal

649
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: impact that? Well, we've never done a live show. We

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Speaker 1: have it in my contract, you know, because some other

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Speaker 1: people the volume have done them. You know, like I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to think over the course of the last several years,

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Speaker 1: other shows, you know, kind of their business model was

654
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Speaker 1: built around that. Ours wasn't necessarily. Part of it is

655
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Speaker 1: that they are pretty labor intensive and pretty costly. So

656
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Speaker 1: we've just had so much success on the internet. Now

657
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Speaker 1: I'm never a post I just my fundamental belief is

658
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Speaker 1: the power that we can distribute doing this, But there

659
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Speaker 1: is you could argue just value even if you don't

660
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Speaker 1: even break even if you do a live show.

661
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Speaker 2: And I mean, how many people.

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Speaker 1: Can we get? Where do we do them? You know,

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Speaker 1: where do we go? You know, this is a pretty

664
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Speaker 1: like the way this distributes, it's pretty national. It's not

665
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Speaker 1: like I used to do a lot of live shows

666
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Speaker 1: and like a live.

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Speaker 2: I forget exactly the word that was used.

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Speaker 1: But in radio, you know, through sponsors, you would do

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Speaker 1: especially we were all over the Bay Area. We would

670
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Speaker 1: do a live show from games. We would do live

671
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: shows from different bars, but the radio show was based

672
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Speaker 1: in that area, so it was like a you knew

673
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Speaker 1: exactly where you were. In these situations, it makes it

674
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Speaker 1: a little more complicated. Again, I don't even want to

675
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Speaker 1: sound negative to this or then I'm anti the idea

676
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: because we have semi broached it before. It just hasn't

677
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Speaker 1: really gained that much steam because, like you said, live shows,

678
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Speaker 1: I don't even know where you are. So if I

679
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Speaker 1: did one, what if I didn't do them.

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Speaker 2: Where you were? If you were Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is an old question, but I think it was

682
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: a pretty good one. Would you listen to Spy Tech

683
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Speaker 1: and the Raiders.

684
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Speaker 2: This was before.

685
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Speaker 1: The Ravens backed out of the trade, and they offered

686
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Speaker 1: you their two first round picks this year, they are

687
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Speaker 1: two first round picks next year for Joe Burrow. That

688
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: would give Cincinnati six first round picks the next two seasons,

689
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Speaker 1: and they get for Danda Mendoz as their next quarterback

690
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Speaker 1: if he had still you know, if Eric de Coastad

691
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Speaker 1: not backed out of the deal. I think the Bengals

692
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Speaker 1: reaction to that is still no, because they think if

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Speaker 1: he's healthy this year, they can compete for a championship

694
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: and for his greate as picks are and you know,

695
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: having a rookie contract, there is no guarantee that Fernando

696
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Speaker 1: Mendez is going to be a top ten quarterback. You know,

697
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: when Joe Burrow is healthy, is one of the best

698
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Speaker 1: players in the league, not just quarterbacks in the league,

699
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Speaker 1: one of the best players, and you have awesome offensive players.

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Speaker 1: I think they would say no to that. Just wanted

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Speaker 1: to let you know I love the pods, especially go Low,

702
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Speaker 1: and I love your honest takes. Also congrats on the kid.

703
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Speaker 2: Nice guy here.

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Speaker 1: If by some miracle you see this, do you have

705
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Speaker 1: any advice for someone with no experience or degree who

706
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Speaker 1: wants to get into the sports media. I've been asked

707
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: this question over the years, and there has never been

708
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: a better time to have the options to try stuff.

709
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: You know, twenty years ago, if you didn't get a

710
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: radio gig or couldn't work on local TV, like you

711
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: just couldn't break into the business, you can just start

712
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Speaker 1: doing like Instagram reels or TikTok takes, start a YouTube channel,

713
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: and just start a podcast or a broadcast, whatever you

714
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Speaker 1: want to do. So I don't know specifically what you

715
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Speaker 1: want to get into, but this would be the same

716
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Speaker 1: advice for someone at college studying to be some broadcaster,

717
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Speaker 1: some podcast or some you know, journalists whatever. Utilize all

718
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Speaker 1: these avenues. Even if you're like, I don't even like

719
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Speaker 1: social media, We'll just use it simply for work.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what I do. I use my social

721
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Speaker 2: media for work. I don't really like social media in a.

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Speaker 1: Perfect world, like I wouldn't want to have to get

723
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Speaker 1: on at all, but it, you know, I use it

724
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Speaker 1: to distribute my content to Obviously, we put socials up

725
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: through there for people to discover, and it's no different

726
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: if you were starting at scratch, it would be the

727
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: same idea LinkedIn Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube.

728
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Speaker 2: You name it. Just start doing shit.

729
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Speaker 1: Would be what I would recommend. Been a listener since

730
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Speaker 1: eighteen writer or Die been a longtime Bills fan and

731
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Speaker 1: wanted to get more in depth perspective on Joe Brady

732
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Speaker 1: being hired as the coach. When he was hired, I

733
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Speaker 1: didn't feel excited or upset over the move. I wanted

734
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Speaker 1: to get your input instead of the guys who covered

735
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Speaker 1: the Bills. I will say I am very happy with

736
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Speaker 1: the other coaching moves Brady has made, like hiring Jim Leonard,

737
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Speaker 1: Pete Carmichael and John Fox. Is it possible that Brady

738
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: was being handcuffed under McDermott because he was a defensive,

739
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: mighty coach. Do you think we could see a free

740
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Speaker 1: rush revamp Bill's team this year? If you watch the

741
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady press conference, and I told him this about

742
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: five cocktails deep when I saw him at the hotel

743
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Speaker 1: at the Combine, probably about ten o'clock at night. Is

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Speaker 1: the way he handled the press conference, which was not

745
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Speaker 1: an easy situation because he had worked under Sean McDermott

746
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Speaker 1: for years and Sean McDermott, as he said, changed the

747
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: course of his life, giving him the opportunity to call

748
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Speaker 1: plays for Josh Allen. If you just watched how he

749
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Speaker 1: handled it, not just that situation but the rest, It's like,

750
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Speaker 1: I'm buying stock in this guy, and I think that

751
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: I think Joe Brady won. He's been an excellent offensive

752
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: coordinator since they fired what's his name Dorsey and they

753
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: elevated him, the offense has been fantastic. Cook has emerged,

754
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Speaker 1: Josh won an MVP and has been the best player

755
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Speaker 1: in the league for a couple of years or.

756
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Speaker 2: One of them.

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Speaker 1: Now, being a head coach, you never know untill he's

758
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Speaker 1: in that spot. What will he do in some of

759
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: these tights, situational football, at the end of halves, the

760
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 1: end of games, timeouts, challenges, You never know, and there's

761
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: gonna be a learning curve with that, But it's a

762
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Speaker 1: pretty good situation.

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Speaker 2: He's taken over.

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Speaker 1: And Jim Leonard is a guy that most people thought

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Speaker 1: was going to be a head coach when he was

766
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Speaker 1: playing for Rex Ryan at safety for the Jets, So

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Speaker 1: I'd be pretty high on the Bills. I would say,

768
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Speaker 1: sitting here right now, I'd probably picked the Bills to

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. And that seems crazy because I

770
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Speaker 1: didn't even know they're how good their coach is as

771
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Speaker 1: a head coach.

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Speaker 2: But if Josh Allen's healthy, I think they're going to

773
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Speaker 2: be a menace. I'm a believer.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this could be Stafford's final season with

775
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Speaker 1: the Rams? If so, would McVeigh consider stepping away from

776
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Speaker 1: football rather than committing to a long term project at quarterback?

777
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: It's hard to envision him fully buying into a rebuild.

778
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Speaker 1: Or do you see the Rams taking a similar approach

779
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Speaker 1: to what they did with Stafford making a big time

780
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Speaker 1: trade next season.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing McVeigh just have no

783
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Speaker 1: quarterback right go into an offseason if Stafford retires and

784
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Speaker 1: just try to figure it out. I think they would

785
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Speaker 1: be extremely aggressive for trade.

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Speaker 2: I think they would be.

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Speaker 1: Extremely aggressive to do whatever it took right. And I

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Speaker 1: think the Stafford thing. If you were a Rams fan

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Speaker 1: or just a fan of football at any moment, I

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Speaker 1: could see McVeigh if they were to win a Super

791
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Speaker 1: Bowl taking like five years off. He's notorious for working

792
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Speaker 1: like eighty eight ninety hour weeks these networks. You know,

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Speaker 1: Amazon would off from twenty million dollars a year, he

794
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: could kind of reset, he kind of you know, Gruden

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Speaker 1: was how the guy got to start. So look at

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Speaker 1: Gruden's career, what doing Monday night football did for him.

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Speaker 1: He could do Thursday night football. I would say that

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Speaker 1: would definitely be a possibility if they kind of looked around, like, well,

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Speaker 1: we could try to trade for people. No one's going

800
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Speaker 1: to trade. You know, no one's gonna be willing to

801
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Speaker 1: make a trade. There's no one to really trade for.

802
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Speaker 1: So you could argue this year is a little super

803
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Speaker 1: Bowl or bust, because I think it's fair to say

804
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Speaker 1: more than likely.

805
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: At Stafford's last year.

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Speaker 1: The only thing is I saw like there was a

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Speaker 1: there was a story today that Brady was like thinking

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Speaker 1: about coming back out of retirement. None of these guys

809
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Speaker 1: would rather do TV than play if they can play

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Speaker 1: at a high level. And you know, Matt Stafford is

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Speaker 1: taking a pay cut. He's making like forty forty five

812
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. So even if you get paid

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Speaker 1: a lot like Tom Brady, you don't make that Well,

814
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Speaker 1: Tom's close, But most of the other guys, like Trey

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Speaker 1: Aikman's making a ton.

816
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Speaker 2: He makes like fifteen eighteen million dollars a year.

817
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Speaker 1: If you're a good starting quarterback in the NFL, you

818
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Speaker 1: know you're making well over forty plus and they're asking

819
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Speaker 1: you the questions. You're not asking them the question. So

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Speaker 1: my gut would be this would be Matt Saffage last year,

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Speaker 1: but you'd never say never. Greetings from Bakersfield. What is

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Speaker 1: up with fellow Bakersfield native Derek Carr? I would have

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Speaker 1: thought he would have been a great fit for the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: But since Derek publicly announced he was healthy enough to

825
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Speaker 1: return to the NFL, the Vikings have signed Kyler and

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I would say the Vikings are out on

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Speaker 1: that one. I would have thought Derek would give the

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Speaker 1: Vikings a much better chance getting into playoffs than either

829
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Speaker 1: of those two signings. Is simply the Saints, who hold

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Speaker 1: his rights, are expecting too much into trade and those

831
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Speaker 1: two teams were free agents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we had Derek on whatever that was a

834
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Speaker 1: month ago. I thought he would have a little bit

835
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Speaker 1: more of a market, but he's not a free agent

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00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: and his contract. I always reading something's a little complicated,

837
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Speaker 1: like would he just have to tear it up and

838
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: basically play for the veteran minimum. I mean, listen, Kyler

839
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: Murray is on the Viking, not because they think he's

840
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: some star. They got him for one point three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. Would he be on the team if he

842
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: was a fifteen million dollar quarterback? For him?

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00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: I doubt it, you know, Derek, and I think it's

844
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: a little complicated when I got to trade a pick

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Speaker 1: for a guy that didn't even play last year, Maybe

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Speaker 1: it turns out it was a little more complicated than.

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Speaker 2: I thought. Now.

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Speaker 1: I also think he told us like he's not just

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00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: gonna play for anybody, So it's like he's not gonna

850
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Speaker 1: go the Jets or the Cardinals or one of these

851
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: terrible teams. Maybe he just made a couple hundred million

852
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: dollars and just actually gonna stay retired, and the Saints

853
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: hold on to his rights and everyone kind of moves on.

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00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: But you go another year, it's probably over. Would be

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00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: my guess that if Derek doesn't play in the NFL

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00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: this year, which again a lot can change, it's March

857
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: twenty sixth, sixth, But it does feel like at this

858
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: point in time that Derek Carr is not going to

859
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: be playing again. Things can change, people can get injured.

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00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: I guess you never know.

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Speaker 1: Crazy things can happen in training camp. Guy could get

862
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Speaker 1: injured in a preseason game, in a training camp practice,

863
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: in an early regular season game. So I guess you

864
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: can never say never. But I mean, shit, Philip Rivers

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00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: started three or four games last year, so yeah, I mean,

866
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: you never know. But I was sitting here right now,

867
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Speaker 1: I think safe to say Derek's just retired.

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Speaker 2: That'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, enjoy the Sweet sixteen, the Elite eight,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Peace.

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Speaker 1: The Volume