Speaker 1: R and B money.
Speaker 2: We are.
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Speaker 3: This the R and B the fucking podcast, the authority
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Speaker 4: Listen, name in the building. Yeah, yeah, we got a brother.
Speaker 1: We gotta love one.
Speaker 2: We you know, we gotta start saying to the authority
Speaker 2: on R and B, money, R and B, everything and
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Speaker 4: You heard it, he said that I can come from
Speaker 4: now on because everything come come along with R and B.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, I'm not gonna make the intro too long. Man. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: the change you might make everybody mad. The change is
Speaker 1: big and the money is long.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, come on, man, come on man.
Speaker 4: First, first, let me say like this, let me say this,
Speaker 4: let me let me get this off my chest. First
Speaker 4: of all, O T is the nicest, nicest, funniest guy
Speaker 4: in the world.
Speaker 1: When I say, in the world, in the world, always smiling.
Speaker 6: But don't play with it, don't play with don't play
Speaker 6: with him, don't play with his people because for the
Speaker 6: smallest thing, I'm talking the smallest thing, O T will
Speaker 6: go there.
Speaker 4: I'm like, like, big bro, what's what what's going on. Oh, man,
Speaker 4: he brought me some cold fries.
Speaker 5: Cold fries.
Speaker 1: God, who brought you the fries? God? Oh, it's just frighting.
Speaker 1: Ain't your fries. It's the principal girl. They taking your
Speaker 1: kind of weakness.
Speaker 3: God, they trying to say you cold out here, you
Speaker 3: hot out here the street.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a hundred niggas. It's just fright. It's
Speaker 1: the principal car.
Speaker 2: He will go, Hey, listen, that's movie.
Speaker 1: Listen. He can really fight. That's the problem. That's the problem.
Speaker 4: But I love it because nigga, he's standing on all
Speaker 4: the business. If he's fucking with you and he got
Speaker 4: love for your nigga, he're not gonna let nobody play
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it starts there. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: This is a few incidents I could go into. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh no, stop it, please, don't do this.
Speaker 3: I't let nobody play with my role.
Speaker 4: Man, it ain't happening. We'll be having hit that switch.
Speaker 4: I don't be sad. I'll be sad for the other
Speaker 4: We're just bowling. I'm a bonus nigger.
Speaker 1: I'll be having to go back to the people and apologize.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, my little brother you know, he laughing
Speaker 1: like that because I really was like tired.
Speaker 3: To me?
Speaker 5: What you mean?
Speaker 1: He he just love heart. I'm sorry. I thought my
Speaker 1: life was in it was, but don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: He's fine, man, oh man, I just had to get
Speaker 3: that off of my chest. Man, brother, I appreciate you, right.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: You know, we've had many a deep conversation man, And
Speaker 4: you know I think that for me, and of course
Speaker 4: I can speak for Jay bringing you here on the
Speaker 4: R and B Money Podcast, it's like, you know, it's
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 4: maybe as an overall title, you consider yourself a rapper.
Speaker 4: I consider you a songwriter for sure. Yeah, I consider
Speaker 4: you a hit songwriter.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And you've done that, whether it just be rap, or
Speaker 4: whether it be melodic, or whether you go ahead and
Speaker 4: just fucking sing, get your remix on to it, like
Speaker 4: you've done all of that. And I think that that
Speaker 4: conversation is and that information is important for everybody all
Speaker 4: the across the border. So let's go. Let's go back
Speaker 4: to the beginning. That's what what was what was a
Speaker 4: little old tie them the beach? Yeah, I was, I was.
Speaker 3: I was in like I was in Long Beach, running around,
Speaker 3: you know, shooting dice at school, you know, selling candy
Speaker 3: for some money, you know, all that type of stuff. Obviously,
Speaker 3: like I'm from Long be so you know we have
Speaker 3: a certain type of thing over there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you say that on this part.
Speaker 6: For you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know we come from like crypt culture
Speaker 3: and everything like that. I wanted to play football, but
Speaker 3: I was bad as hell, so I was always ineligible.
Speaker 1: You know, look, you know, look at you right now.
Speaker 1: I ball up nigga fast, he ain't got a grade?
Speaker 4: Iigga fastest, well low hiszy grade, make sure he don't play.
Speaker 4: And so my grades was bad. But I never I never.
Speaker 4: I never got to like I'm one of the dudes
Speaker 4: that like, I always used to get confused. And then
Speaker 4: I start saying for school only because I.
Speaker 1: Like go there and I like, do I do good?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 3: I finish all my homework and then failed all the
Speaker 3: time because I would never like retain I can retain
Speaker 3: the information. I'll just make sure I complete what I
Speaker 3: need to complete, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 3: And so I started doing music. Then like by the
Speaker 3: time I'm like sixteen. But then I went to like
Speaker 3: like seven high schools you went to I went to
Speaker 3: like seven yeah, because I was yeah, because everybody wanted
Speaker 3: me to go to their school.
Speaker 1: I'll be over there next week. It's not a party,
Speaker 1: I pull up. No I got. I got kicked out
Speaker 1: of all of all the schools I was. I was,
Speaker 1: I was going to it.
Speaker 3: So I got kicked out at every school that I
Speaker 3: went to, and then I found in high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Because I was getting I was getting kicked out of
Speaker 3: like districts and so and so I would so I
Speaker 3: would start like in one and then I go like,
Speaker 3: I gotta go from me surreto.
Speaker 4: We don't want you to go to any of these
Speaker 4: ten schools, right, you can't go to none of it.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is you've been doing club hosting.
Speaker 1: You permitt he only had two hour requirements. He come
Speaker 1: to his hour and a half.
Speaker 3: I was kidding so like because they were like I
Speaker 3: was so bad, they were like, now we kick you
Speaker 3: out of the district, not out of the school. It's
Speaker 3: not gonna expel you from the school. You're gonna go
Speaker 3: down there and do the same ship. So we get
Speaker 3: kicked up whatever. But I was doing music and I
Speaker 3: used to like go online and go, I want to
Speaker 3: go back to something real quick, go to the music.
Speaker 3: I want to go to this. I was so bad
Speaker 3: because I was really bad in school. Yeah, And I
Speaker 3: don't know why I was really bad at school, Like
Speaker 3: I was just up for whatever challenge, whatever another nigga
Speaker 3: wouldn't do right right right before.
Speaker 4: It was before I got to high school, right before
Speaker 4: I found the Lord. The Lord changed me, but before that,
Speaker 4: and the psychologists tried to give me, you know, all
Speaker 4: these reasons as to why, and your parents and they
Speaker 4: left you early and went overseas without you. It's just
Speaker 4: your rebel. Like I was like, no, I'm not rebeling.
Speaker 4: The nigga just said do you want to fight? And
Speaker 4: I was with it. Teacher said some bullshit and I
Speaker 4: called him an asshole. I was That's just what.
Speaker 1: I was on.
Speaker 4: What was your thing? What was it that made you
Speaker 4: that way? Was it just you were just like taking
Speaker 4: all challenges?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, especially when I left Long Beach because
Speaker 3: when you kick me out of school, I'm like it
Speaker 3: was kind of like I felt that like I was
Speaker 3: already I was already bad because like like when I
Speaker 3: had to I always had to catch the bus. So
Speaker 3: I catch the bus when I get to like the
Speaker 3: train station, like they're banging on you on a train
Speaker 3: station for those who don't know what's like, where are
Speaker 3: you from?
Speaker 1: So you start to get it, you get in that energy.
Speaker 3: I already had that energy before you even get to school,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And then we like shoot
Speaker 3: dice at the McDonald's outside of my school in the morning,
Speaker 3: like so we'll try to get with that's that that
Speaker 3: that's what makes us get up early.
Speaker 1: You know you said, we gotta we got shoot dice
Speaker 1: at McDonald's before we before we across the street.
Speaker 3: And so but but my, my, my, my, you know,
Speaker 3: all through my youth, I have to catch the bus
Speaker 3: and catch the training. That's when you run into niggas
Speaker 3: and you run into.
Speaker 1: Whoop and where you're from. Oh oh damn. We gotta
Speaker 1: get off on this stop because over there, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: And so so then when I when I left Jordan
Speaker 3: My my my main school, that's like my homeschool across
Speaker 3: like down street from.
Speaker 1: My and I left out of Long Beach.
Speaker 3: I'm always looking at other niggas different, you know, because
Speaker 3: they looking at me and I'm like, you know, so
Speaker 3: I'm instantly it's a it's a defense mechanism, you know.
Speaker 3: And but I'm like, I'm tripping, and I'm like I
Speaker 3: always now now I'm I'm I'm always trying to prove
Speaker 3: myself to somebody, you know what I mean, and prove
Speaker 3: that I ain't no bitch, I ain't no that I
Speaker 3: come from here. You know, So when somebody says something
Speaker 3: to you here, even if it's not.
Speaker 1: Even if it's not.
Speaker 3: Like really threatening like that, you take it like that
Speaker 3: because you know, you come from a certain place. So
Speaker 3: I can't the way I'm trying to collect this information
Speaker 3: that you're telling me right now.
Speaker 1: It all it all feels, it all feel the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And so I mean by that, yeah, so
Speaker 3: I would I would do that. I would do that,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I had like I used
Speaker 3: to have like my you don't have the eye, the
Speaker 3: I seven thirty, the next tails and all that, you know.
Speaker 3: I used to do that, bring like yeah, call my homies,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like bring guns to school.
Speaker 3: I used to have my little douce fires and my
Speaker 3: little backpack and everything like that. Like I used to
Speaker 3: be like I used to be like on bullshit too.
Speaker 3: You just really out of control.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was like because every time I get
Speaker 3: on a bus stop and I get on the train,
Speaker 3: they got this thing called the Blue Line, right, and
Speaker 3: they go from Long Beach. You got the Long Beach station,
Speaker 3: the Artisa station, then you got the Wilmington station, which
Speaker 3: is Compton. Then you got the one hundred and third station,
Speaker 3: which is Wis you know, and your shit keep going
Speaker 3: all the way from Long Beach or downtown to then somebody.
Speaker 1: So you're going through every hood and when.
Speaker 3: You get off, you get off the train, you know,
Speaker 3: it's sometimes a niggas sitting outside. They just sitting outside
Speaker 3: the train station tripping, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: just get nobody, want no money, no nothing. We just
Speaker 3: hear trip you know what I'm saying. And so I
Speaker 3: was always moving that way to protect myself. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm like overly protective by myself. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm like I'm aggressive because I'm overly protected
Speaker 3: by myself.
Speaker 1: And at sixteen, you can't turn that on and off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like, oh now I'm in a classroom.
Speaker 2: Now I'm ana turn. I'm gonna turn this, this this
Speaker 2: tripping off. No, I'm tripping on.
Speaker 3: Everything because I gotta be like this to happen to protection.
Speaker 3: So I gotta be like this for nothing, nothing that
Speaker 3: happened to me, you know what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 3: got initiated, so motherfuckers. No exactly exactly him alone, exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm not waiting for a nigga run up on me.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, as soon as I get off, I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying it instantly. I ain't.
Speaker 3: And I always felt like I had to be that way,
Speaker 3: you know, and that obviously that's what God me kicked
Speaker 3: out of all these damn schools. You know, there's others
Speaker 3: I gotta be. I always feel like I had to
Speaker 3: be the breast, you know. So he was going into
Speaker 3: the computer, into the music. Yeah, so so I would
Speaker 3: I would look on online and I would see certain
Speaker 3: things where on damn, what's that site?
Speaker 1: Was it? Liire back then? No? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: where they like sell stuff in cars.
Speaker 3: And and crazy right, and then like people were like
Speaker 3: you know, and they just like people would put up
Speaker 3: like shows into where you like, artists gotta sell tickets
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 1: And back then they.
Speaker 3: Had Shine Heagley, they had all this all this stuff
Speaker 3: right where like that's what is that golden voice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 3: And so like they would have like artists perform, but
Speaker 3: you had to sell like ten tickets, but what to
Speaker 3: get on the show. So it's like if I sell team,
Speaker 3: he sell team, he sell t he sell got packed.
Speaker 1: We got a packed show and.
Speaker 3: All our people was there. So I would that's what
Speaker 3: That's what I would do whatever. But every time I performed,
Speaker 3: it was like, damn, you're a great performer. D We
Speaker 3: love your music, Blase, but this is me young, you know.
Speaker 3: And I kept doing that, kept doing that, kept doing that,
Speaker 3: and you know, you you start to meet people, and
Speaker 3: you start to grow, and people start to grow, you know,
Speaker 3: as you guys are going up and and then I
Speaker 3: start meeting people. That's like they're like, yo, we're gonna
Speaker 3: put you on this show. And you know, you win
Speaker 3: this contest.
Speaker 1: You you do.
Speaker 3: A song with Lil Wayne, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like what and then you know, then they have this
Speaker 3: and then but the whole time they like they finishing
Speaker 3: you your bread, you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 3: they trying to figure out who can sell the most tickets,
Speaker 3: so you can sell thirty, you know, thirty tickets at
Speaker 3: ten ten dollars each or twenty twenty dollars each, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and this how the people how they was making money.
Speaker 3: So so years after that go by and I do
Speaker 3: a song.
Speaker 1: Out here.
Speaker 3: It was a song called Touchdown that I did, and
Speaker 3: I met this guy there and this guy so I
Speaker 3: think it was a Jamaican guy. He was like, yo,
Speaker 3: you signed and signing anybody. I'm like nah, He's like,
Speaker 3: all right, cool, I got I got I got somebody
Speaker 3: you know for you to talk to. I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 3: So so comeing to happen. The guy that he was
Speaker 3: talking about was his name was Dino's name was Dino Devaye.
Speaker 3: So he had signed cast Money and he was trying
Speaker 3: to sign fifty. But when he was trying to sign
Speaker 3: fifty at University originally before fifty went to in the
Speaker 3: scope and so he's still but University didn't want to
Speaker 3: sign fifth because of all the shit the guns this,
Speaker 3: so like we're not we're not signing him.
Speaker 1: So I guess so Fifth still.
Speaker 3: Kept a relationship with him because he was trying to
Speaker 3: make something happen, you know. And then he sent over
Speaker 3: the music. So Dino sent over the music to Fifth,
Speaker 3: and then Fifth called me and I'm helping, Like I'm
Speaker 3: helping my boy move. I got a refrigerator. Like I'm
Speaker 3: on a dolly helping my homewoy move out of his apartment.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, they like, yo, d da da da,
Speaker 3: some guy get on the phone. I'm on the phone
Speaker 3: then and then he goes, yo, yeah, yeah, that guy's fifty.
Speaker 1: What some one the phone?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: Niggah?
Speaker 3: So now me and Fifth on the phone, we're talking
Speaker 3: for like an hour.
Speaker 1: You still got a refrigerator. So so.
Speaker 3: Look I got the I got, I got all of
Speaker 3: It's like we got all. We got the truck right there.
Speaker 3: We're really moving, bro, Like I'm really helping him move.
Speaker 3: And so Fifth it's like, yo, so we're chopping up.
Speaker 3: He's like, look, man, we gonna do something.
Speaker 1: So listen.
Speaker 3: When we got off his phone, I think he said
Speaker 3: he was I remember he was like, we got the phone.
Speaker 3: Don't go around telling your whole hood you're rich, right,
Speaker 3: he was like the last thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, don't go around telling your whole hood
Speaker 1: you rich, right, and so.
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm gonna come meet you in la
Speaker 3: all right. Cool, So he can't meet me in l A.
Speaker 3: We chopped it up and then that's around the time
Speaker 3: he was doing like his s K headphones, his energy dreams,
Speaker 3: all that stuff. So we was running around. Me was
Speaker 3: like me and him and Floyd. That's when him and
Speaker 3: Floyd was like super tight. And but I didn't know
Speaker 3: what a single deal was. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You just know you got to deal. You know that
Speaker 3: song for the exactly touchdown and so okay, boom. So
Speaker 3: now that deal is over and I'm kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 3: what's going on, what's going on? What's going But I'm
Speaker 3: not knowing that this is a single dis this is
Speaker 3: for one song you've been signed for. And I was okay, cool,
Speaker 3: But I always say it in contact with him, I
Speaker 3: always check you know, I mean check in, check in whatever,
Speaker 3: So maybe I'm not.
Speaker 1: So I tell Dino who song came out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it came out, it came out, Yeah, it came out,
Speaker 3: and it was all right, But then I tell Dino
Speaker 3: became my manager at that time, if he made the place.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, what's going on? So you know this
Speaker 3: is just a single deal, was like, this is how
Speaker 3: things work or whatever. I'm like, I thought I was
Speaker 3: fifty forever, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, chef is on Dad. You know, wow, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta come through. You gotta come through. So I
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't know. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm so I'm new to this and whatever. So I
Speaker 3: just buggled down, kept recording.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: Three years later, I mean, playhouse out here and I'm performing,
Speaker 3: and then I meet Buster and Buster's like, yo, you're
Speaker 3: starting to I'm like nobody. He's like, oh, let's go
Speaker 3: talk to the studio. In the studio, let's go talk
Speaker 3: about cool.
Speaker 1: Cool. And then when I go home, like, what's up
Speaker 1: all these New York niggas? You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm right here, you know what I mean? And so.
Speaker 3: And so I meet him at the studio. We start
Speaker 3: chopping it up. We started talking about life and and
Speaker 3: and principles and you know everything. I was telling him like,
Speaker 3: as a man, like you know what, I go forward.
Speaker 3: I ain't going for a while. You know, certain things
Speaker 3: like and and so be cool. So he goes to Atlantic,
Speaker 3: gives me a deal at Atlantic, you know when they
Speaker 3: give him a label deal.
Speaker 1: They give me a deal, get a label deal. It
Speaker 1: was to me.
Speaker 3: And so now they gave me some money.
Speaker 1: Nigga, I ain't recorded for damn near a year.
Speaker 3: Right off for your advance. Yeah, I'm spending the money. Right,
Speaker 3: I'm busy.
Speaker 1: So I'm spending the money. Now, you got it. Now
Speaker 1: you have a full record, right right right, I have
Speaker 1: a full record deal. So now I'm not knowing that.
Speaker 1: I just know they gave me some money. Nobody's teaching me.
Speaker 1: And why here is this? This is two thousand and fourteen.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, wait yeah, no, no, it's twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: It was thirteen. And then.
Speaker 3: The December of twenty thirteen when it's happened, and so
Speaker 3: it to like August and the A and R comes
Speaker 3: my A and R Riggs. At the time, he came
Speaker 3: with some verbage. I don't know what he's talking about,
Speaker 3: so I did. I'm like what he's doing. They're like, oh,
Speaker 3: they're saying that they're about to drop you. You know,
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, you haven't put out
Speaker 3: no music.
Speaker 1: It's no, no nothing. I'm like, oh, Ship, So I'm panicking, right,
Speaker 1: so because you're not at this point, they just paid
Speaker 1: you the party. Yeah, I was hoping, so.
Speaker 3: Look hoping that they gave me some money. I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: look right now, I'm like, they ain't gave me some money.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, y'all ain't you know? I had
Speaker 3: to like hustle for Ship like this.
Speaker 1: Like, y'all give me some money. Okay? Cool? And so.
Speaker 3: We get into August. They gave me that conversation. We
Speaker 3: get the September, I dropped I record Coco right, and
Speaker 3: I record Coco and I was about to was about
Speaker 3: to shoot another video for a different song that I did, right,
Speaker 3: So this this is the coldest thing ever. So this
Speaker 3: song was about to put out and we shot a video, everything,
Speaker 3: big budget video everything. I was like, oh, this shit
Speaker 3: is about to be lit right. And I saw the
Speaker 3: video and I was like, I don't like it. And
Speaker 3: this is when I start going. I started paying attention
Speaker 3: where I really started to understand videos and understand that
Speaker 3: editors make.
Speaker 1: The video as well, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened? To that scene. What happened that scene?
Speaker 1: What happened in that scene? You see?
Speaker 3: All those dope moments that made you excited about the
Speaker 3: video is not in the video. You go, oh, man
Speaker 3: I I don't like it. Then go so what you
Speaker 3: want to do? And then Bus like, so what you
Speaker 3: want to do? I'm like, man I I don't like it.
Speaker 3: Hed you got another song? Like I got another song
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 1: To put out.
Speaker 3: This is exactly how I went. We're supposed to put
Speaker 3: this video. The whole second song after No No, this
Speaker 3: is this song. It was a song called Yum yum
Speaker 3: did I did right? And we're supposed to put it out.
Speaker 3: I didn't like the video, big budget video, everything. I
Speaker 3: didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not putting that I don't like it.
Speaker 3: So Bus looking at me like, so what you want
Speaker 3: to do? Old Tam and he's like stressed out, like
Speaker 3: what the we just shot a whole spend that money
Speaker 3: on you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to do.
Speaker 3: I recorded some ship the other night that I want
Speaker 3: to do. Right cool. So he's like, all right, work
Speaker 3: them here. So that's SOM's Coco. You go shoot the
Speaker 3: video on the project. It ain't no budget no more,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? But yeah, exactly, shoot that video.
Speaker 3: Everybody was scared, like, look at all this ship you
Speaker 3: put in the video or drop that bitch and motherfucker.
Speaker 1: That Lessen.
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I heard it. I remember,
Speaker 2: I want to say, I was in Graystone. Yeah, what
Speaker 2: year is that, twenty fourteen? Yes, yeah, around that time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that shit kicked in and I was like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck is that? And we had no idea you
Speaker 2: was from California?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love that part. We had no idea you
Speaker 1: was from California.
Speaker 2: And I kind of want to go back to what
Speaker 2: when you were saying you were like all these cats from.
Speaker 1: New York had reached out to you.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like the politic with the culture that
Speaker 2: y'all have in l a kind of kept people away
Speaker 2: from reaching out.
Speaker 1: To you to do a deal. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think that.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, let me tell you this short story.
Speaker 3: I used to run around with just DJ DJ Amen
Speaker 3: Yeah and Amen did everything to try to get me on,
Speaker 3: but they were like the music that he does, everything,
Speaker 3: he don't sound like a West Coast artist. This is
Speaker 3: what people DJ's are saying, right, And I used to
Speaker 3: hustle in Atlanta all the time. I used to hustle,
Speaker 3: and so everybody was like, he's from Atlanta, He's I
Speaker 3: never said I wasn't. I never said nothing. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play the game. And so it's crazy because
Speaker 3: your own city be like, oh, well, if you don't
Speaker 3: sound like you're from here, you from here, then you
Speaker 3: ain't from here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But nigga, I'm from here for a shelf or southah.
Speaker 3: But they're like, oh, if you're gonna sound like you
Speaker 3: from here, then we can't give you that love like
Speaker 3: that because we feel like that's that maybe not it's
Speaker 3: maybe not deemed authentic to our culture, you know, as
Speaker 3: far as is concerned. And so when I understood that,
Speaker 3: I played the card. And by the time they realized
Speaker 3: bro from it was too late. So that so when
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, you see walking over here, long
Speaker 3: down the street, right, and anybody who knows here like, oh,
Speaker 3: he cold.
Speaker 1: So I just played the game the system. That's how
Speaker 1: it came That's how it came back.
Speaker 2: Now you had to love me, yeah, yeah, and it
Speaker 2: worked out in your favor.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, because that's how.
Speaker 2: It came back around from Obviously, I'm from the Bay
Speaker 2: and from the Bay, and he had been telling me
Speaker 2: about right and I didn't realize it was the same artists.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't realize the same artist.
Speaker 3: Crazy because like you said, when you first hear Coco,
Speaker 3: you can't you really can't say where the artist.
Speaker 1: Where he's from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because for one, you're always
Speaker 2: yelling at people.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about. You like to yell.
Speaker 3: Love.
Speaker 4: I didn't know the Spanish got torn.
Speaker 1: So funny, you know what I'm saying. Listen, I'm with
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather and the Strip Club. That's a great place
Speaker 1: to hear. He like, what's your take? What's your that's
Speaker 1: so came on. I know he records, I know he
Speaker 1: records records. Like, who the fuck is what you're doing?
Speaker 1: This he's doing? I said, what the fuck is sid nigga?
Speaker 1: I want to strip club? Floyd. Floyd went to the Strict Club.
Speaker 3: He played that I was in there, play again, play
Speaker 3: that was his favorite song.
Speaker 1: Play back. He has to walk around with the what's
Speaker 1: the what's the ship?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 2: Not before that, before the iPhone, they had the I
Speaker 2: was it.
Speaker 1: I it was like the little the I Pop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he used to walk around the iPod with the
Speaker 2: motherfucking headphones off.
Speaker 3: When I say that, Nigga played that song over no.
Speaker 1: Pretty uh.
Speaker 4: Pretty bottles to it, one hundred thousand and one to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I seen him. I've seen him.
Speaker 3: I seen him in the club go throw like eighty
Speaker 3: and it was all on Coco, back to back to
Speaker 3: back to back to back, and I'm in there like
Speaker 3: and and when when they come in with they coming
Speaker 3: with boxes. You know what I'm saying, They can with boxes.
Speaker 3: They got to put the money in the boxes.
Speaker 1: So it's too much and.
Speaker 3: It's over and it's my ship though, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: this ship is crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Fact that it's not another song. Now, one
Speaker 1: other song.
Speaker 3: Come on, He's like, if you want me to keep
Speaker 3: throwing this money, keep playing this song.
Speaker 2: So so I'm going to I'm going to just guess
Speaker 2: that Atlantic didn't drop.
Speaker 3: You know, and that And at that point when I
Speaker 3: started to understand music, I said, damn, I wish they did.
Speaker 1: That and dependent.
Speaker 2: Because this whole time I thought that he had Coco
Speaker 2: independent before you did that deal.
Speaker 7: You didn't.
Speaker 1: You did that record? Because they literally did that.
Speaker 3: I dropped I literally recorded Coco Boom with like September
Speaker 3: shot the shot the video late September. Dropped Coco November
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, and they said when they were supposed to
Speaker 3: drop me at the end of the year, So I
Speaker 3: probably had like one month month now. And mind you,
Speaker 3: mind you when I dropped it, they didn't service it.
Speaker 3: It just went got you boom and then they had
Speaker 3: to catch on land.
Speaker 1: It was to It was too it was too big,
Speaker 1: it was too big.
Speaker 2: So how much do you think that cost you? The
Speaker 2: video would have been independent? How much money you think
Speaker 2: it cost you being signed to?
Speaker 1: How much money do you think you would have got
Speaker 1: in your pocket if you would have been in d
Speaker 1: with that record? What do you think?
Speaker 2: I don't mean to make you mad to think about this,
Speaker 2: but you know, if you drop Coco as an independent artist, it.
Speaker 3: Takes all the same way.
Speaker 4: Label eighty five, fifteen, ninety ten. How many are souls?
Speaker 1: What's the numbers today on Coco?
Speaker 3: For how much? How much I'm playing? Well, but I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take you one thing. I tell you one thing,
Speaker 3: because your performance royalties alone.
Speaker 1: My performance royalties is crazy alone. But how much money
Speaker 1: I made on the road just on just doing shows
Speaker 1: off of Coco.
Speaker 3: Like I'm like somewhere like in like ten, I can
Speaker 3: believe it. Yeah I'm talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just off Cocoa.
Speaker 3: Just off they just off the shows, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, just off the show. And then I
Speaker 3: want to go double back. And everybody's like, oh, he's
Speaker 3: a one hit winner.
Speaker 1: He's done that.
Speaker 3: And I'm like I'm hearing this the whole time, right,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, ship, So what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I'm still getting money on the road.
Speaker 3: And when I'm doing interviews, they asked me, so, what's next?
Speaker 3: You know what I did after that?
Speaker 1: Cut it? Boom were young question? Let me ask your question.
Speaker 1: Cut it. I'm gonna tell you what he used to
Speaker 1: be doing when we be in the club.
Speaker 4: Come on and that nigga take it just look at
Speaker 4: me like that. I used to sing like a shirt.
Speaker 4: I used to sing like a thinking. When he comes
Speaker 4: up and say cut it, cut it, cut cut it,
Speaker 4: cut it, cut it cut it long.
Speaker 3: You gotta cut it, cut it from it long and
Speaker 3: breaks his way too. You gotta cut it along, cut
Speaker 3: It cut.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question because because because now
Speaker 4: we're starting to get into now we're starting to get
Speaker 4: into songwriting and consistency and understand and understanding and being
Speaker 4: a professional at this ship being able to dial it
Speaker 4: up on demand. When you did Coco, did you feel
Speaker 4: like you had found something that you took from uh
Speaker 4: just just just from a format standpoint to to do
Speaker 4: cut it or was cut It just the new build
Speaker 4: for you?
Speaker 1: Completely? Really, I'm not even gonna lie. I was just
Speaker 1: drinking alcohol and I'm.
Speaker 2: You want to write here, records kids, you want to
Speaker 2: write record and and sometimes it's just open like because like.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to promote drinking, right, But what I
Speaker 3: say is like when I'm when I'm drinking, like even
Speaker 3: with my personality, like the only thing it does is
Speaker 3: a base it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, but i could be be really happy, really upset.
Speaker 3: You know, But when I'm in a studio and I'm drinking,
Speaker 3: I'm in, I'm in I'm at home. You know, it's
Speaker 3: the vibes. I feel like I'm in the club for
Speaker 3: like I'm you know, And so I actually recorded cut
Speaker 3: it and push it the same night, go get the money.
Speaker 3: I record that shit the same night. I recorded them
Speaker 3: the same night, same night, the same night.
Speaker 1: Yeah and so and so.
Speaker 4: But it's not like you're encouraging like, oh, drink and
Speaker 4: you're gonna make it records. I think you're speaking from
Speaker 4: a place of your just your comfort zone. Yeah, yeah, studio,
Speaker 4: having a beverage, having a good time, just having Everybody
Speaker 4: has the methods, everybody has their their environment.
Speaker 3: Because because when I was coming up and I was
Speaker 3: making music, it was always fun for me. And so
Speaker 3: then when I started getting a deal and everything, and
Speaker 3: I watch everybody else, I'm like, damn, everybody so serious,
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm like, it ain't.
Speaker 1: It ain't fun no.
Speaker 3: More so when you when you when you create that
Speaker 3: that lanes where.
Speaker 1: It's fun again and you like a kid again.
Speaker 3: That's when you start making all like that your best music,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because it's fun, you know.
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes we we you know, we're worry about
Speaker 3: criticism or other people, how other people think, whatever.
Speaker 1: But so much press, so much pressure, necessary pressure.
Speaker 3: But but you never felt that when you were trying
Speaker 3: to get on, you know what I mean, We were
Speaker 3: trying to get on. It was just like, this is
Speaker 3: who I am just doing that? You're singing your ass off,
Speaker 3: you're doing it. Nothing was a bad song. Nothing was that.
Speaker 3: Nothing was you keep listening to that ship your whole
Speaker 3: leader studio. You get a copy of that, you listening
Speaker 3: to the whole way.
Speaker 1: Home, like damn.
Speaker 3: And so I had to you know, psychological for me.
Speaker 3: So I had to go, you know what, let's get
Speaker 3: back in that lane. Let me just have fun. And
Speaker 3: even if I don't courd nothing tonight, that's okay.
Speaker 1: I bring people to the studio, everybody having drink.
Speaker 3: Y'all have a drink here, we go party, have whatever
Speaker 3: comes to me comes to me. And if I don't
Speaker 3: record anything this night, that's what that's okay. I'm okay
Speaker 3: with that, you know what I mean, because I know
Speaker 3: what I came. I came to have a good time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, and within that good time, even if it's
Speaker 4: not that night, reflecting on that good time.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, there's a record.
Speaker 4: There's a gym in there, there's a there's a moment
Speaker 4: where we was saying whatever we were saying, we'll put
Speaker 4: that in it. Like the experience is what makes the record. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Living this ship is what makes the records. You know.
Speaker 4: People ask me like, how do you stay current? I
Speaker 4: was like, I just stay alive. Yeah, for real, that's
Speaker 4: how you stay. I write about today. I write about
Speaker 4: things I actually do. I'm doing these things. I'm putting
Speaker 4: the ship on. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm at Naven Marcus, I'm surfing through the through the drip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm at the strip club, you know,
Speaker 4: so I know where they got the best chicken tenders.
Speaker 4: I know where the best impossible burd is a magic
Speaker 4: city in there. So it's like as you as you live,
Speaker 4: and you're in it and you stay in it. It
Speaker 4: don't matter if you do it that night or even
Speaker 4: even that we don't put don't put that unecessarily.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, guard it ain't like that.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: You just know at the end of the day, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get back to the plate and I'm a bad again.
Speaker 4: That's it, so Coco. And then the second one is
Speaker 4: cut it, cut it, and then the third one is
Speaker 4: push it.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: After that was I didn't think I did thick with
Speaker 3: two chains.
Speaker 2: So did you what did you what did you realize
Speaker 2: though that you were doing or do you realize that
Speaker 2: you do motivational music?
Speaker 1: You know what? I feel like I can lift the
Speaker 1: whole gym when I'm listening and teacher.
Speaker 2: Okay, throw your whole back out.
Speaker 3: I was at the airport the other day in the
Speaker 3: air for the day.
Speaker 1: I was buying I buy some chips.
Speaker 3: This this lady was like, damn, I just got back
Speaker 3: from the gym listening to you, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And I and I never knew it like that. I
Speaker 3: just always because I used to like and still to
Speaker 3: this day, like like, I party so much and have
Speaker 3: a good time so much. So when I am like
Speaker 3: I spent so much time in the club, like girls
Speaker 3: just like you always in the club, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: well my music is there too, sweetheart.
Speaker 1: What are you doing here? You do research?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually yeah, yeah, and so so I So
Speaker 3: I listened to the vibration, the sounds. I listened to
Speaker 3: the pockets, listening to other people like and so I
Speaker 3: start making recordst where it starts becoming like chance.
Speaker 1: You know, and I'm not knowing it, but I'm knowing it,
Speaker 1: you know. What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And so when I spend the time in the club
Speaker 3: and I'm partying, then I said, I can hear what
Speaker 3: catches somebody, and I go, okay, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Gonna do exactly what that is.
Speaker 3: But if I do what I do and I get
Speaker 3: to catch them the way that caught them, then you
Speaker 3: know I'm good.
Speaker 1: So when I am in.
Speaker 3: The studio, I'm in the club, you know, and and
Speaker 3: and I'm near and I'm like, what if, I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 3: not that I'm sound right. Okay, Now I said too
Speaker 3: many words right here. It's not gonna be to the
Speaker 3: to the to the human ear.
Speaker 1: So I gotta what's catchy? What to be there? Okay,
Speaker 1: I say this, Okay, then I play it back. I'm like, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: I look good. I look like back. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know what I mean? Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's so much you giving real information right now, You're
Speaker 2: giving a masterclass in songwriting. Because listen, you know your pocket,
Speaker 2: you know where your music belongs. You make music for
Speaker 2: the club. You make music for the club. So okay,
Speaker 2: what are the elements of the club. People are either
Speaker 2: singing off key. You know what I'm saying. They really
Speaker 2: can't remember a whole bunch of shit because they might
Speaker 2: be drunk. So they need only a certain amount of
Speaker 2: words like you said, like okay, maybe I said too much.
Speaker 2: That is that is songwriting. That is truly songwriting. Somebody
Speaker 2: could try to you know, you got the purest of
Speaker 2: the world that be like, oh no, you must do this,
Speaker 2: No motherfucker, you must take yourself away from your extreme
Speaker 2: talented self and say, what with these people, the person
Speaker 2: who hasn't been to Berkeley School of Music? What are
Speaker 2: they going to dance to? How can I motivate them
Speaker 2: in their lives? What do they want to ride around
Speaker 2: in the car?
Speaker 1: Too? Right? Right, that's exactly what you've been doing.
Speaker 3: Right, And it's like who's in the club, who's in
Speaker 3: the class, who's my client?
Speaker 1: Who's my clean tale?
Speaker 4: Tell I, like, listen, it's drug dealers, it's gangsters and
Speaker 4: all the other niggas in there, the niggas that beautiful.
Speaker 1: And the most beautiful women.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to put they put that ship on to be
Speaker 4: recognized or seen by the So you you you give
Speaker 4: them voices.
Speaker 3: And I also understand that that if I want to
Speaker 3: get the attention of these women, that's here. If I
Speaker 3: get the attention of these guys, that's here. These guys
Speaker 3: are the one that's paying for these tables, and these
Speaker 3: women are the ones that singing the song with these guys,
Speaker 3: because these guys are the guys with the money who's
Speaker 3: paying for so they attach themselves to them. So so
Speaker 3: and so girls will go you see girls pull up. Uh,
Speaker 3: you go to a house party, go to even you
Speaker 3: go to a hooker lounge, go to whatever, and a
Speaker 3: girl grab the ice core. You're like, how she noticed
Speaker 3: she had heard this because she was hanging with that
Speaker 3: nigga over there with all that money, and she was
Speaker 3: hanging with him, and.
Speaker 1: That's that became her favorite song.
Speaker 3: Yeah, research research, Yeah, like that songwriting.
Speaker 1: Yea, being in those spaces. Yeah, you gotta be in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta be in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you gotta be You gotta get some
Speaker 3: you gotta get some on you get yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 3: So it's like you just like you're here and you go, okay,
Speaker 3: thinks like you're talking about something. You're talking about something, Valentin.
Speaker 3: You're like, y'all talking about this or this experience. Y'all
Speaker 3: singing to a woman and you talking about experiences that
Speaker 3: you had and all this stuff. But you guys never
Speaker 3: done this, you know what I mean? Or you guys
Speaker 3: never you know, please the woman this way, but you're
Speaker 3: talking about it's not gonna feel the same.
Speaker 1: It doesn't send off the same exact rations. It can't exactly.
Speaker 3: So when you're when you're there and you're doing that
Speaker 3: and you talk about that, that's when I don't write
Speaker 3: from a mystical place. I write from your reality.
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, yeah, now your reality, even if I
Speaker 1: got to write it ten times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nigga Tank always sucking up. Yeah in the songs,
Speaker 4: well always I fucked up a lot better now, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, there was runnwn the
Speaker 4: list of songs. Man, we would we were just we
Speaker 4: would just get into some to some more songs. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's start.
Speaker 2: Because as they were interviewing you, asking you what was next,
Speaker 2: think you was a one hit wonder, No no, and
Speaker 2: then you went crazy.
Speaker 1: You went crazy after that.
Speaker 2: Cut, after that push it, push it, push it thick,
Speaker 2: thick it was thick.
Speaker 1: W bay looked like be mm hmm, everybody.
Speaker 4: Man, let's started stuff, right, there stop, everybody relax, We're
Speaker 4: gonna post up right here, get into the mondy.
Speaker 1: Everybody mad. And you know who heard that? You know
Speaker 1: who heard that record? Yeah, I'm gonna dance that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: The Queen yeah said I need some of this for myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Listen, man, how does that feel? My brother from Long
Speaker 4: Beach kicked out of seven districts, told he was only
Speaker 4: gonna have well ship, wasn't promised life past eighteen right
Speaker 4: right right then you get an opportunity. I was told
Speaker 4: you're not gonna have another one of these right now?
Speaker 4: We five six in deep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we ain't talking about the track.
Speaker 1: Were talking about the track. Beyonce the Queen, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what. Nigga cheers, Yeah, yeah yeah it was
Speaker 1: a man, we got to this. This cheers, My brother cheers.
Speaker 4: The Queen says, I need these bars, I need this
Speaker 4: moment in my show. And you get to see that
Speaker 4: live with the choreography with the band. I mean, is
Speaker 4: this Coachella?
Speaker 1: I mean this is around.
Speaker 3: This is the first night, the first time, yeah, the
Speaker 3: first the first time she did is Coachella. What goes
Speaker 3: through your mind when you see that? Now watch this Okay.
Speaker 3: I had a show in North Carolina at the time.
Speaker 3: So I did a show in North Carolina, and then
Speaker 3: I had to do an after party. And I was
Speaker 3: on my way to the after party while this was
Speaker 3: going on to Coachella. And as I'm on way to
Speaker 3: the after party, my phone is blowing up. But I
Speaker 3: keep inding everybody because I'm on the OX score. I'm
Speaker 3: you're trying to play. I'm trying to play. My man
Speaker 3: was yeah, And so my brother called me. My older
Speaker 3: brother called me, yo. I'm like, what's up?
Speaker 1: You see what? Yo?
Speaker 3: I checked my I checked my Instagram. It's bumble bees
Speaker 3: everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 1: What I'm what happened? I see it?
Speaker 3: And then I get to play it back and watching it? Oh, no, fucking.
Speaker 1: So my brother were going with it.
Speaker 3: Cham pushing, pushed the keys, push the kings.
Speaker 1: Push the keys.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: You know, and your and your travels and in the
Speaker 4: design of your melodies, You've you've You've come across some
Speaker 4: other R.
Speaker 1: And B singers.
Speaker 4: Aside from yourself, aside for yourself, that.
Speaker 1: You also thought were great in developing your style. T
Speaker 1: who's your.
Speaker 3: Top five?
Speaker 1: Your top five.
Speaker 5: Top fun.
Speaker 1: You're tough, fu me saying.
Speaker 8: Let's say. Sure, he can't out saying alright me, so
Speaker 8: honest thing that he came out saying, you man, you'll
Speaker 8: be tripping, You'll be cripping now you do, but we
Speaker 8: are know your top.
Speaker 7: Yeah, shop far oot fun, let's go, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah you still you still think you the kig?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Ot ship your top five R and B singers, My
Speaker 1: top five R and B singers. Okay, who.
Speaker 3: I love R and B man, so it's kind of
Speaker 3: already know you do. Oh okay, I go with not
Speaker 3: in any order.
Speaker 1: I go with Beyonce. I mean you got to do that,
Speaker 1: you got to do that. You're gonna have some more
Speaker 1: bees under the episode. Yeah uh, I would say a.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh real quick, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Niggas don't talk enough about A yeah, cold bloody yeah
Speaker 3: if my cold blooded.
Speaker 1: M oh this is good. Wow, it's nice. I will
Speaker 1: go with Keith Sweat Yeah yeah, new edition.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because I'm not saying it because you hear,
Speaker 3: because you have one of my greatest songs that you
Speaker 3: still don't know that you do?
Speaker 1: You do know because I told you to sing it
Speaker 1: before I go A tang. God damn it. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I can't make you love
Speaker 1: me singing? Yeah, I love it. I love that to
Speaker 1: find a clip, I can't make that song where. I
Speaker 1: love that song. Bro, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I promise you. I love that fucking song. Brother. I
Speaker 1: don't don't know what where you, what you was, what
Speaker 1: was going on? Where he was at? What part of
Speaker 1: we just left me and him? We just left King
Speaker 1: of Diamonds for real. Yeah, circle House, circle house in Miami. Wow,
Speaker 1: still a little drunk. I did think a circle house. Listen.
Speaker 3: They make records, make hit records, and game great cookies. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they make fire cookies.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I said all the time.
Speaker 3: Because it's some it's something like a lot of people have,
Speaker 3: like a lot of you know, anybody have like big
Speaker 3: catalogs and everything in the music, especially with R and B,
Speaker 3: you know, but it's certain songs that just were like, Damn,
Speaker 3: that's a fucking beautiful that's.
Speaker 1: That song right there. I always like, Damn, that's that ship.
Speaker 9: You know, every rapper had that R and B song.
Speaker 9: They wish that they that they that they you know,
Speaker 9: something that was like that one. That one you should
Speaker 9: read you should remake I can't make you let me? Yeah,
Speaker 9: that would be your next easy I gotta hear. I've
Speaker 9: seen him.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. After drink starting to set in you,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the lyric can be you.
Speaker 5: Can't cot me, niggas ca out come me.
Speaker 1: Trust me, I'll figure it out. I know you, I
Speaker 1: know you are. Okay, take your top five.
Speaker 3: R and B songs, Okay, r Kelly, I decided dang,
Speaker 3: I can't make you love me? Obviously it's one of
Speaker 3: my favorites. Beyonce, best thing I ever had, Wow, Wow,
Speaker 3: race right, Charlie Wilson, I can do magic.
Speaker 1: Come on, uncle Charlie. He sweat twisted. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know you sound man.
Speaker 1: She came in there like, but I got up the man, I.
Speaker 3: Got out of the.
Speaker 1: Wrong. That's when you know you got a great song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when Nicking immediately down the immediately.
Speaker 3: Record, sweat was right and own it and what and
Speaker 3: the fucked it up with l s G too my
Speaker 3: body ls G. He's the prototype. Yeah, you want to
Speaker 3: be you want to be like something in this R
Speaker 3: and B business. I got too much and then like
Speaker 3: y'all putting me on the spots like damn, I gotta.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it all changes every day because every
Speaker 4: time you hear you did you, I'm like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 4: I forget, like it's too many.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, here we go.
Speaker 4: We're gonna make what's called the R and B vultron Right,
Speaker 4: We're going to make your super R and B artists.
Speaker 4: So you need to decide, as we're building this artist,
Speaker 4: who you want to get the vocal from, who you
Speaker 4: want to get the performance style from, who you want
Speaker 4: to get the styling from, and who you want to
Speaker 4: get the passion from the heart of the artists, all
Speaker 4: of your R and B vocalists for your super R
Speaker 4: and B artists, your vultual You're getting the vocal from.
Speaker 1: Ship. This is this is good?
Speaker 3: All right, I'm getting a vocal well damn okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I'm building the R and B artist.
Speaker 1: It's okay, so I'm getting a vocal man.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 1: So it can't be me? Because I let me think
Speaker 1: real quick, because I'm.
Speaker 4: Clearly the choice for There is no way I could
Speaker 4: pick anybody else.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm getting I'm getting the vocals from Roy
Speaker 3: carry Monster.
Speaker 1: Who you're getting the performance style from the performance stage.
Speaker 1: I'm getting the performance from Bobby Brown. Yeah, who you're
Speaker 1: getting the styling from the drip, I'm.
Speaker 3: Getting the styling from I'm gonna style it from David
Speaker 3: ruff Yeah.
Speaker 1: Put I'm getting I'm getting that styllar. Yeah, custom like
Speaker 1: who you're getting the passion of the heart of the
Speaker 1: artists who mean it. I think I'm getting the passion
Speaker 1: from David Ruffing.
Speaker 2: Also, I got one more for him. And what R
Speaker 2: and B singer? Would you want to steal the record from?
Speaker 3: Hm? Hmm what?
Speaker 1: I want to steal a record from? Whose? Song?
Speaker 6: Who?
Speaker 7: Who?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 1: Will be next? Oh? That a record that you're like,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I gotta get him.
Speaker 3: Oh, I have some ship in mind already too. It
Speaker 3: would probably have to be Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1: The next one. I want to set a song from
Speaker 1: hit you gon hit them? Yeah, I kind of look
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on quick ship. He has way Oh
Speaker 1: my god, my god. Yeah, nigga mine as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're so cold, wait that way, you're so cold with this.
Speaker 1: She axed me that.
Speaker 4: Songwriters, producers, artists on in every genre take notes, perfect.
Speaker 1: What you do and just do more of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're there, we are there.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names time. I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. Ain't saying no names.
Speaker 3: We will.
Speaker 1: What you did, don't say s I ain't saying no names. Yeah, Nick,
Speaker 1: we've come to that part of this show. Talk to him.
Speaker 1: We can't go ahead. Yeah yeah, yeah, you need you
Speaker 1: need a poet. Okay, okay, So right now we had
Speaker 1: this special segment.
Speaker 2: It's called I ain't saying no names? Will you tell
Speaker 2: us a story? Funny and fucked up? Are funny and
Speaker 2: fucked up? On the journey in the Travels of O
Speaker 2: T Genesis. The only rule to the game you can't
Speaker 2: say no names, no names.
Speaker 1: So this is funny. So I went. I went bowling
Speaker 1: with this specific artist. When I'm saying no names, and
Speaker 1: he's like, let's do it this bowl. I feel like
Speaker 1: I whoop your ass. I feel like I could whoop
Speaker 1: your ass. And so me there, you know I I had,
Speaker 1: you know, I have my baby mama with me, yes,
Speaker 1: a girl with him chilling.
Speaker 3: So we're bowling. I win the first one, he won,
Speaker 3: the second, bestide three. I want the first one. He
Speaker 3: won the second one, and.
Speaker 1: Ass the third one.
Speaker 3: But me, I'm not the winner. That's like, I just
Speaker 3: want one, I'm falling all over the floor. I'm I'm
Speaker 3: falling all over the floor. I'm screaming, I'm laughing. I'm
Speaker 3: sitting there. I'm like, oh my god, I got the ball.
Speaker 3: I'm throwing the ball down the other lane. I'm doing,
Speaker 3: I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I'm anything.
Speaker 3: That's the winner that I am. I'm the type of
Speaker 3: winner that if you beat me a hundred times, I
Speaker 3: beat you at once, You're gonna.
Speaker 1: Feel it because I'm I'm gonna let you hold it.
Speaker 1: We like we ever play again after.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: So, so I'm doing all of we Waller, we go
Speaker 1: to the hook A lounget. We're chilling Hooker. He's still sick.
Speaker 1: He goes. I'm like yeah, He's like, Yo, we're talking
Speaker 1: and I'm still talking about you know how many Grammys
Speaker 1: I want? You know how many Grammys I got? No
Speaker 1: he went to the Grammys. I said, you're still lost.
Speaker 3: So her so that he's talking like who, But you
Speaker 3: know I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't got that that I was a rock. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know much brace with him? So you know how
Speaker 1: much coming up?
Speaker 3: You know how wool that's I'm talking so every Grammy one? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know it relates to some So now we get
Speaker 3: into a show where I take your grammys from you?
Speaker 1: Come out. Know what you're talking about? You went too,
Speaker 1: were talking about so now my baby mama, she's uneasy.
Speaker 1: His girl is uneasy. We made it so weird for
Speaker 1: the girls, right, we made it so weird for the girls.
Speaker 3: They looking like they're apologizing to each other.
Speaker 1: We're going far talking about this grammy. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: your grammy. I don't give a about none of that.
Speaker 3: You know, you know what I'm driving. You know that
Speaker 3: it became a whole thing from bowling right, And I
Speaker 3: really want to still say his name, but I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna I take your gray because I already know where
Speaker 3: you went. I have a hundre nigga outside niggas. Wait
Speaker 3: right now, nigga, take your whole grammy.
Speaker 2: I got the.
Speaker 1: Won't give a funk about none of that. You talking
Speaker 1: about you? You're talking about some grammy. I was like, good,
Speaker 1: because you fool with you?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: How you get from Grandy's to bricks? Nonstand because no,
Speaker 1: because because I wasn't. I wasn't trying to be. I
Speaker 1: just don't want the game. But he got so mad
Speaker 1: the way you won too. You fell all over the.
Speaker 2: Come on man, accountability, accountability.
Speaker 1: So you get when I say he was going crazy
Speaker 1: with the Grammy talk. Oh my god, I said, bro
Speaker 1: nobody a bunch of grammars. You still lost. First of all,
Speaker 1: you're a sore loser.
Speaker 4: You lost the sore winner. The sore winner him a
Speaker 4: sore loser. You won't let me do my dance. You
Speaker 4: won't let me dance on your face like you you tripping.
Speaker 1: But but it's brotos. So it's like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: the drop of a dime, he started tripping, tripped.
Speaker 2: I want to bring up something, something is really important
Speaker 2: and something that I know that you have been there
Speaker 2: they they passionate about. Yeah, autism absolutely, Yeah, can you
Speaker 2: kind of give because you know, we we love to
Speaker 2: bring attention to causes, to you know, to different things
Speaker 2: that people are behind and that people support.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people in the black community don't
Speaker 1: talk about it a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of our families have kids, yeah
Speaker 3: who you know are dealing with autism.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, because it's like.
Speaker 3: Right now, I think it's like one in every eight
Speaker 3: black children.
Speaker 1: Black little boys, black boys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so yeah, it's definitely something that you know,
Speaker 3: it's something that we need touch on. But if you
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, autism is a neurology disorder.
Speaker 1: You know, and most of the kids.
Speaker 3: No, like with my son, my son the he's thirteen now,
Speaker 3: my oldest son, that's my or some he's thirteen now.
Speaker 3: We found out around the time he was like maybe
Speaker 3: what like two two and a half three years old,
Speaker 3: you know, when you call him and then like he
Speaker 3: couldn't even the answer was kind of like he had
Speaker 3: selective hearing, but he just wouldn't answer.
Speaker 1: You say his name, his name, say his name whatever.
Speaker 1: Figure it out.
Speaker 2: A lot of.
Speaker 3: Parents to this day, right, it's they're in denial about
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and they don't want to
Speaker 3: get there. You know, they don't want to get their
Speaker 3: kids checked or anything like that. Find out they hid
Speaker 3: him the spectrum. It's kind of like, no, he's not
Speaker 3: that or that, but they don't a lot of women
Speaker 3: don't have women or men don't have the information.
Speaker 1: They don't know what autism is.
Speaker 3: And it's best to get your you know, your child
Speaker 3: checked early at an early age, because mom my son
Speaker 3: is he's he's not severe, but a lot of that
Speaker 3: at being that we were on it early, early, early, early, early, early,
Speaker 3: and and it was sad. The sad part about it
Speaker 3: is my my son's mom. I'm not saying this is
Speaker 3: the sad part, but the sad part about life. And
Speaker 3: like people, my son's mom, I was in a position
Speaker 3: to where I can make sure that she didn't have
Speaker 3: to work, because it's it gets crazy when both parents
Speaker 3: have to still make money for the household and one
Speaker 3: is going and one is going, and so it's like
Speaker 3: just sending them the speech therapy is okay, cool, but
Speaker 3: you still need to work on your child at home
Speaker 3: every day. And a lot of a lot of kids
Speaker 3: don't have gone because my mommy got to go this way,
Speaker 3: daddy got to go this way, and then we got
Speaker 3: to pick up the child, and so some of those
Speaker 3: and then also at the same time, mommy and daddy's
Speaker 3: probably tired from working, and so now the child is
Speaker 3: not getting all the help that he needs in order
Speaker 3: to you know, to become you know better, and.
Speaker 1: You know, like.
Speaker 3: I had, my son's mom was She's always there. She's
Speaker 3: all about my son. She's all about my son. She's
Speaker 3: all over my son. It's not about like this steam words.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're gonna have fun and we'll run around
Speaker 3: to the club. And my investment is making sure my
Speaker 3: child is you know, everything is everything he needs, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: there is going to be a time where we, you know,
Speaker 3: God willing, you know, we die before our kids do,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's gonna be a time where they're
Speaker 3: left here, you know. And I was told a story
Speaker 3: from this one kid, and he's autistic, but he's you know,
Speaker 3: he's better now. But he was saying, like you know,
Speaker 3: at a younger ages, like especially with the tantrums and
Speaker 3: everything that they throw, he knew what he wanted to say.
Speaker 3: The words just wouldn't come out of his mouth. And
Speaker 3: that's what made him more frustrated and more frustrated and
Speaker 3: more frustrated and more frustrating.
Speaker 1: You see all this, you know, to act out exactly.
Speaker 3: But I think that us as parents, black parents, white, like,
Speaker 3: we just have to pay attention to our kids, you know,
Speaker 3: and stay there, stop being in denial because all that
Speaker 3: time you're being in de now your child is losing
Speaker 3: from becoming better. You know. All that shit is repetition.
Speaker 3: Time is of the essence when you talk about autism. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like really being able to
Speaker 3: get into those because now now that we've identified it,
Speaker 3: you know, as a society and even medically, it's on
Speaker 3: a whole other level now to where there's so many programs, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so many different whether it be schooling and whether it
Speaker 3: be like even gathering places where they can have fun
Speaker 3: with other kids that are like them. Right, there's so
Speaker 3: many things in place now. But it goes back to
Speaker 3: that one thing you said. You have to pay attention
Speaker 3: to your kid and get them to help early early,
Speaker 3: or you're gonna miss the window because being because you know,
Speaker 3: we like obviously we're human, we're humans. So you go,
Speaker 3: oh damn, like you know, and they because you see
Speaker 3: somebody in the denial, you're like, no, you got to
Speaker 3: understand what that is, you know, And and no matter what,
Speaker 3: you know, God sat here for you. You have to
Speaker 3: take that and go, Okay, this is what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: deal with, you know, And and that's that's your job
Speaker 3: as a I see too many parents personally and they're like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, but and yeah, the son is you.
Speaker 3: Know, obviously behavior is really really bad. Everything is really
Speaker 3: really bad. And I'm not saying because because they're autistic,
Speaker 3: but because they also don't have to help. So you
Speaker 3: go year for year for year, that child still hasn't
Speaker 3: improved because us, you know, that parent is like, well,
Speaker 3: we're just let the school deal with it, though, we're
Speaker 3: just let you know, he's supposed you have to stay
Speaker 3: on top of your child.
Speaker 1: My son right now, he's.
Speaker 3: He he was obviously he was in like special classes,
Speaker 3: but now it's half and half, you know, so now
Speaker 3: he's in general and especially when he has straight a's,
Speaker 3: you know, so he's like he's sharp.
Speaker 1: He's like a super genius, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But most times that's what it is, though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they it's crazy because they lack they lack the
Speaker 3: things that we're great at, and then we lack the
Speaker 3: things that.
Speaker 4: They're great at and they're really great at whatever that
Speaker 4: yeah super yeah, So whether it be a communication thing
Speaker 4: with them or them or but but when when they're
Speaker 4: when they're down into what I always say is their
Speaker 4: purpose because I feel like autistic, you know, a lot
Speaker 4: of autism is like a hyper focus on on a
Speaker 4: true design, and sometimes it's about identifying what that is
Speaker 4: once once somebody you know in an autistic space find
Speaker 4: that thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, magic, yeah, great kids. Magic.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to I wanted to bring that Stuffy
Speaker 2: because I just know, you know how how much of
Speaker 2: an advocate that you are for and you know it,
Speaker 2: and it's to me, it's not brought up enough in
Speaker 2: our community, right right, And it happened knowing how much
Speaker 2: it affects, it happened the most us to us, right,
Speaker 2: So you know, and just like you said, I think
Speaker 2: this conversation just hopefully it brings some awareness to someone
Speaker 2: who may have a young child that they're trying to
Speaker 2: figure it out. It's like, right, go now, right right,
Speaker 2: get them checked so that you can get in front
Speaker 2: of it, right and that you can really help the child.
Speaker 1: Right. So I appreciate that, No problem, that's really dope. Brother. Yeah.
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