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Speaker 1: This is up on Game presents Conversations with a Legend

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Speaker 1: with LeVar Errington, and LeVar is sitting down with some

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Speaker 1: of the legends you have watched on and off the field.

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Speaker 1: This is up on Game Presents Conversations with a Legend.

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Speaker 1: And now here's LeVar Errington.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Yes, it is me your boy, LeVar Arrington,

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Speaker 2: and it is another exciting edition of Conversations with a

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Speaker 2: Legend is up on Game as Fox Sports Radio listen.

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Speaker 2: I've talked to a lot of Pittsburgh Steelers and they've

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Speaker 2: all been on the defensive side of the ball. I

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Speaker 2: hit Captain Kirk, talk to g Lloyd, talk to Chad Brown. Well,

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Speaker 2: now we're gonna go on the offensive side. And this guy,

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Speaker 2: this next guy.

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Speaker 3: Was a thumper.

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Speaker 2: So even though he was on the offense, he played

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Speaker 2: like he was on the defense. Happy, excited, a great man.

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Speaker 2: Somebody I think so highly of Merrill Hodge. Man, it's

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Speaker 2: great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna stop you right there because I can't

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Speaker 4: be more proud of you, brother. But then when you're

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Speaker 4: doing that rendition there, I'm like, wait a minute, I've

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Speaker 4: been covering you since high school. Yeah, and you played

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Speaker 4: running back and linebacker, So why would you go to linebacker.

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Speaker 2: When I would watching guys like you playing tail playing

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Speaker 2: full back, tailbackery you know why I went Yeah, tell

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Speaker 2: me why I went for linebacker because I really did

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Speaker 2: not know if I would be good enough playing running

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Speaker 3: The next line.

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Speaker 2: That's I felt like, for my skill set, I would

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Speaker 2: probably be best suited to be a linebacker. And they

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Speaker 2: tried to force me to play running back or safety,

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Speaker 2: so they didn't even.

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Speaker 3: Bring me in and and had me.

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Speaker 2: Say I started off at safety and and and so

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not a safety. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: from Pittsburgh. Y'all recruited me as a linebacker. I know

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Speaker 2: y'all see me play running back. You tried, Joe tried

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Speaker 2: to get me to play running back. I didn't want

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Speaker 2: they ended up putting me at at linebacker. It worked out,

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I love playing tailback, but I really

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Speaker 3: That could listen cover.

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Speaker 4: Had you heard about you and so, you know the

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Speaker 4: your reputation preceded yourself I'm going to tell you about

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Speaker 4: because listen, there's a lot of guys would leave Friday's

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Speaker 4: practice and go and go watch the game. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 4: Neil o'donald Neil don was always at the game. He

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Speaker 4: was and he was telling me about about you. So

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Speaker 4: that's pretty cool. When I was working for the ABC

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Speaker 4: one of your games. I couldn't tell if you were which, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you were awesome oft both. That's why that's why I

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Speaker 4: never sat like, why did you not stage?

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Speaker 2: I just want I just wanted to be a linebacker.

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Speaker 2: That was just in my head. I just want That's

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Speaker 4: From a coaching perspective, I gotta let the guy do

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Speaker 4: what he's most passionate about.

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Speaker 3: That they get the most out of him that way.

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Speaker 2: So I got a funny story for you before we

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Speaker 2: go into like talking about you know, what you're promoting

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Speaker 2: and what you got going on. Talk a little bit,

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Speaker 2: talk a little football. But Barcelona Spain, I'll never forget.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget. I was in the eighth grade and

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Speaker 3: Barcelona, Spain.

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Speaker 2: You guys are playing ironically or coincidentally, the San Francisco

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Speaker 3: We go to a beach.

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Speaker 2: We were kids that were sponsored by Baldy Reagan, so

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Speaker 2: of Baldy's relationship with the Rooney family. And I thought

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Speaker 2: the funniest but the coolest thing all at the same

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Speaker 2: Things that kind of stood out to me that through

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Speaker 2: Do you remember? First of all, do you remember doing that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you know what when you're saying there like,

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Speaker 2: I remember, I was, yeah, you know, you wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: Tim Worley. And then Andre Haystings was really kind to me,

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Speaker 2: I was. I was totally into to y'all. So so

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Speaker 4: But you know the you know the same way it

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Speaker 4: went in Rome, right, Okay, when you know when we

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Speaker 4: it lived up to it, and we're like, you know what, listen,

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Speaker 3: Yep, that was the goal to fit in. Okay, you

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Speaker 2: That was I was like, oh yeah, merroor Hodge, you know.

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Speaker 3: And then it became like you'll never do it. I said,

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Speaker 3: right in. You did it, You did it, listen. I

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Speaker 3: There was a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: it was it was a lot going on there. I'll

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Speaker 2: I saw a lot of things in person that just

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, we'll leave it at like you said, whenever

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Speaker 3: we are, let's let's if you are shot at fourteen.

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Speaker 4: I think I was probably about twenty four, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, oh gosh, you never seen this.

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Speaker 3: Before, never seen this before. Very very nice, very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, let's go football. Let's start with Pittsburgh since

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Speaker 2: we're both you know, our background connection is is Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Troy Polamalu jumped in and said, hello to us.

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Speaker 3: What was your what's your take on the latest state

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Speaker 2: I know Roethlisberger came out not too long ago and said,

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Speaker 2: it's the culture isn't the same anymore. It doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: and maybe that could be the reason why the team

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Speaker 2: continuing to push and build that Steeler culture. What's your

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Speaker 4: Well, it actually reminds me of one of my rookie

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Speaker 4: remember that. I don't know if you at that age,

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Speaker 4: making that that transition. And I think that is you know,

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Speaker 4: even like listen, Ben Roethlisberger was probably the epitome of

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Speaker 3: And I didn't know that's that's the first one to

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if you remember the footage

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Speaker 3: That was Ben.

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Speaker 4: That was Ben, you know, like he was trying. He

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Speaker 4: tried to run the locker room, like you know, like

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Speaker 2: And I turned into that that's an interesting perspective because

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Speaker 2: it been not being a good teammate? Is it is

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Speaker 2: it AB not being a good teammate? And that became

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I could tell you this because I know both.

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Speaker 4: I know the scenario intimately that and you know this

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Speaker 4: and you're demanding structure and you're demanding ownership and accountability,

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Speaker 4: and that is being fought back on, You're always going

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Speaker 4: the world time coaches just called us up here, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's so.

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Speaker 4: But because up to that point, you know, they had

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Speaker 4: you got to experience some.

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Speaker 3: Other people exactly. So I I just listen so to

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Speaker 4: Though I think there's some truth to that, and I've

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Speaker 4: withdraw from it, but you know, they're intimately and committing

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Speaker 4: and that is that. But I also believe that you

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Speaker 4: have to get Steeler coaches to Coaching is so important.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing too, you know as well, people who

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Speaker 4: does matter. And when you have a combination of good

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Speaker 4: things can happen. You just can't have one or the other.

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Speaker 4: The Bill Belichick you know Tom Brady discussion, Okay, let

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Speaker 4: me they were nothing eroded in my eyes with Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 4: and nothing elevated for Tom Brady when they left that

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Speaker 3: Well that's what it was. Was extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: And the only thing that we now somewhat close is

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Speaker 4: Andy and Patrick Mahomes. I mean that those that doesn't

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Speaker 4: happen all the time, but that you do need both.

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Speaker 4: You can't have bad coaching because they never get the

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Speaker 4: most out of their players and they never developed players.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, why you do need good coaching, and you need

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Speaker 4: guys that can develop and understand this league and how

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go, unleash your athletic potential without drugs.

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Speaker 2: Breathere fit, it's the ultimate gym for your lungs. Tell

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Speaker 2: me about it. Before I let you, I really could breathe.

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Speaker 4: Fi Now, I had open our surgery, and in order

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Speaker 4: So this comes across my plate. I'm all, I'm I'm passionate.

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Speaker 4: a restiratory aspect.

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Speaker 3: If you're not doing anything cardiovascular wise. Huh.

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Speaker 4: And he's like, one of the West ways to restore

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Speaker 4: that is to train your respiratory system, which is your lungs.

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Speaker 4: Since the system, and I was thinking, oh, that made

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Speaker 4: So I started working with it, and here's what I did.

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Speaker 4: I actually on accident, left had to go on a trip.

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Speaker 4: I was gone for about ten days. I trained, but

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Speaker 4: I didn't do any cardio. I did the breather fit.

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Speaker 4: I brought this with me. You can do it anywhere.

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Speaker 4: It takes five minutes. I'll do it twice a day

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Speaker 4: my breathing system, my respiratray system was like I had

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my gosh. And so let's say

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Speaker 4: you're not doing any cardio. This should be a great

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Speaker 4: So the more oxygen you could be, the easier you breathe.

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Speaker 3: Here's the results. You'll be happier, you'll be smarter, you'll

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Speaker 4: From it, right, could spark you into investing more into

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Speaker 2: that the goat Meryll Hodge sent you to go get

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Speaker 2: that all right.

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Speaker 3: Merril Hodge, it's been a pleasure, bro. One of my

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Speaker 3: heroes growing up.

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Speaker 2: Man hard knows football was a part of my culture

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Speaker 2: and growing up, and you were a part of that.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steeler Great Meryll Hodge, This is up on game.

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