1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: on this Friday, October twenty. It's got a lot to 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: talk to you about today. We'll be joined later in 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: the program by our friend Dennish Jasusa has a new movie, 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: Police State. It's very timely because of the weaponization of DOJ, 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: law enforcement and all of that for political reasons, so 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: we're looking forward to talking to Denish about that. Will 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: also be joined by our friend, the publisher of The 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: New York Sun, David Afun, who is an expert in 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: Israeli politics and national security. He'll be with us to 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: give updates on the conflict, When can we expect the 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: ground invasion to start? And a whole lot more. Clay's 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: pulled a Wall Street Journal editor that looks at crime 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: in California as well as crime in Florida in recent 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: years and does anyone to guess whether the Blue state 18 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: or the red state is doing better at handling crime 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: and what those realities are. We'll break down those stats 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: for you, and we'll also look at some of your 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: emails to some of your calls a lot to do here. 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: We want to start though with the Biden's speech about 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes from last night, pretty quick speech where he 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: dealt with a whole range of national security issues, and 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: the primary thing is that he is really combining Israel's 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: fight against Hamas with Ukraine's fight against Russia, which is well, 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: we'll get into this, but it's very interesting. It all 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: comes alongside a emergency funding request of one hundred billion dollars, 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: a majority of which is supposed to go to Ukraine. 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: So we'll discuss. But first off, the media, the live 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: media for sure loved this speech by Biden and wanted 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: to give you a sense of the congratulations they were 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: offering up after his fifteen minute teleprise to read play sixteen. 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: This is the thing that Joe Biden does better than 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: you know, most politicians. 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: I thought this was a good speech. 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 5: I give him a good grade tonight. 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 6: I think it may be remembered it as one of 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 6: the best, if not the best speeches of his presidency. 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: I think he really did an amazing job. 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 7: He was in command, he was strong, the right message. 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: For now Joe Biden has come into himself. 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 5: This has been a good period for Joe Biden. 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: At times like this, I look and say, thank God, 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's our president, not Donald Trump. Okay, that last 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: one was Ron Clay. No surprise that he's going to 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: say that. Some people say he was running the Biden 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: presidency for a while. 49 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: Clay. 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: There there were some things in this speech, and we're 51 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: going to play some clips from it. There were some 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: things in the speech that certainly I think made a 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: lot of sense, were the right things to say. Hamas 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: is evil. What they did is evil. When you get 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: into the policy, and I've said this all along, Democrats 56 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: at the top the Democrat Party. You know, seventy five 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: percent of the Democrat Party is aligned with Israel on policy. 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: It's twenty five or thirty percent. And this actually is 59 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: reflected in the polls about thirty percent of Democrats don't 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: want us to support Israel. 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: Let's fight again. So that's about what we've been saying. 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: So you've got like a twenty five to thirty percent 63 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: anti Semitism wing of the Democrat Party on policy. Though, 64 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: combining this moment for Israel with a Ukraine funding request 65 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: and acting like Israel's fight against Jihadish terror stretching back 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: for decades is the same as a territorial war between 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: Russia and Ukraine. There was a lot going on here 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: that I think people need to take a closer look at. 69 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of things stood out to me. 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: There were three mentions of his speech of Islamophobia. There 71 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: were two mentions of anti Semitism. That seems wildly out 72 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: of sorts. Again, you should never judge any war one 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: based on their religion. For anybody out there who is listening, 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: whether you are Christian, Jew, Muslim, atheist, whatever religious beliefs, 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: you choose to be ascribed to Buddhist and do like whatever, 76 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: you have the right, thanks to living in America to 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: pursue your religion to the legal extent of the law. 78 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: You should not act out against anyone, but to claim 79 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: that there is a massive outbreak of Islamophobia when an 80 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: Islamic terrorist organization just killed fourteen hundred Jews, like, there 81 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: is no moral equivocation here. The other thing I would equivalency, Yeah, 82 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: equivalency what I would say in general, also associated with this, 83 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: Joe Biden I think has mostly been right. I mean, 84 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 3: yesterday we pledged and pledged our appreciation to John Fetterman, 85 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: which I never would have believed, because he's right on 86 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: the issue of Israel, and he actually managed to say 87 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: it out loud and spa in a way that we 88 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: can understand it. We played audio that was positive for 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: John Fetterman. So it is important to acknowledge when people 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 3: are on the right side of an issue. What I 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: would say, I still want more of to me, I 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 3: know Biden addressed American hostages, and I want to play 93 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: cut eleven here, but we still have twelve or fourteen Americans, 94 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: some of them children, that are being held by a 95 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: terrorist organization, and I don't understand how that isn't the 96 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: primary focus of American interest right now. I understand wanting 97 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: to support Israel, but first I want to support actual 98 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 3: American citizens. Here's Biden cut eleven to me. This should 99 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 3: be all everybody's talking about. Remember what happened in Iran 100 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: when our embassy adults were taken hostage. It was a 101 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: huge focus of the nineteen eighty election. And it's like 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: these twelve or fourteen American citizens that are currently held 103 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: by terrorists, many of them are children. It's like they 104 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: don't even exist. Play cut eleven. 105 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 7: Most movingly, I met with Israeli who would personally live 106 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 7: through horrific horror the attack by a moss on the 107 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 7: seventh of October. More than one three hundred people slaughtered 108 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 7: in Israel, including at least thirty two American citizens. Scores 109 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 7: of innocence, from infants to the elderly grandparents. Israel Is 110 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 7: Americans taken hostage. As I told the families of Americans 111 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 7: being held captive by a mass We're pursuing every avenue 112 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 7: to bring their loved ones home. As president, there is 113 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 7: no higher priority for me than the safety of Americans 114 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 7: sell hostage. 115 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: Look, so he's he's said it. He's not saying it enough. 116 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: He's not saying it enough. There there is a and 117 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: you know, the White House shared a photo of some 118 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: special operations folks. 119 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: You saw this, right, yes. 120 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 2: And then they deleted it because that's you know, active 121 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: duty special people who don't know how big of a 122 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: whiff is that for the presidency. Not good, that's not good. 123 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 4: They do. 124 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: You do not want to be sharing the identities, especially 125 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: of our you know, elite, elite units, Right, That's that's 126 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: something you don't do publicly, but you know it was. 127 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: It was a mess up. 128 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: Nonetheless, there may be things that are either in the 129 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: planning stage or underway that could be to get Americans 130 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: out safely. I don't know, I have no inside or 131 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: knowledge of this, but that's always a possibility. It's also, 132 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: I think a way that the White House probably pushes 133 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: back play on any off the record discussions they're having 134 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: with journalists about Hey, like, are you are you guys 135 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: really focused in on this. I'm sure they're saying, yes, 136 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: we're focused in on the hostages and we're but but 137 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: here's my thing, this moment should be all about Israel 138 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: and Hamas. 139 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it. 140 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: Really turned into Israel Hamas plus putin Russia Ukraine plus 141 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: the funding request goes to Taiwan, so I guess China 142 00:07:54,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: possible invasion of Taiwan. You know, the fact is support 143 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: for funding Ukraine for Ukraine's war is starting to dwindle 144 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: in this country because people are recognizing what I said 145 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: on this show at the start of the war, which 146 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: is that Russia is a massive machine that will lose 147 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: soldiers for a very long time and that this will 148 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: cost us a trillion dollars. That sounded maybe like crazy 149 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: talk at the time to some people, although you know, 150 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: generally Trustpuck when he talks about national security. Clay, We're 151 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: already in for hundreds of billions with Russia. Hundreds of 152 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: billions at this point, we don't even really know the 153 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: full number. He wants another sixty billion as part of this. 154 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 2: That's just an emergency appropriation for a data said Russia, 155 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: I met Ukraine for Ukraine in all this, and to 156 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: combine these two it feels like there's an effort here 157 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: to use the clear moral outrage the world has against 158 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: what Hamas just did and the support that Israel should 159 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: have in its response to just sort of, you know, 160 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: to scoop in the Ukraine fight as the So that's 161 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: on a similar level, similar US interest, similar possibility of this. 162 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 2: I mean, he brought up NATO allyed countries instead if 163 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: anyone goes if Russia goes in into these NATO countries, 164 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: we're going to full scale war. 165 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: What Why is he saying that right now? Do you 166 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: know what I mean? 167 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: It feels like he's combining two issues where there's no 168 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: need really to combine them unless you're trying to use 169 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: the emotions of the moment to push for something you 170 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: otherwise couldn't get. 171 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, because they're going to say if Republicans 172 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: oppose this in the event that we even have the 173 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: ability to pass anything, because. 174 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: We should mention Jim Joe don't speak. 175 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: Jim Jordan has lost the third speaker vote, got twenty 176 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 3: five defections. Talk about this maybe a little bit more 177 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: for a few minutes when we come back in the 178 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: next segment. But Buck, what I would say is, in 179 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: addition to focusing on hostages, I want to make sure 180 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: that I don't have one red cent of my money 181 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: and your money and everybody else out there who's paying 182 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: taxes money go into Palestine or Hamas. So when they're 183 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 3: saying thirteen billion dollars for the Israeli conflict, how much 184 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: of that money is going to end up in the 185 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: back pocket of Hamas Because a lot of the money 186 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: that we're giving to the Palestinians in the same way 187 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: that that six billion we were going to give to Iran, 188 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,239 Speaker 3: a lot of that money finds its way into Hamas's 189 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: back pocket because they effectively are running Gaza. So wait 190 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: a minute here, I want to know exactly how those 191 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: dollars are being spent. 192 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: And to your point, they are. 193 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: Trying to create a scenario where they can attack Republicans 194 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: for not giving money to Israel because that is more 195 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: popular in the Republican base right now. If they're people 196 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: out there listening right now, I would say, if you said, hey, 197 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: we can only give money to Israel or we can 198 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: only give money to Ukraine, I would think to the 199 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: extent I know some of you would say, well, we 200 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: shouldn't be giving any foreign funds to anybody. We're thirty 201 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: three trillion in debt, We're borrowing one hundred billion more 202 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: dollars to give to another country. I understand that argument completely. 203 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: But if you were just choosing do you want money 204 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: going American taxpayer dollars going to Israel or going to Ukraine, 205 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 3: I think our audience would be ninety five to five 206 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: in favor of giving money to Israel over Ukraine. And 207 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: I think that's what the Biden administration is feeling, and 208 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: they're trying to link it because they want to make 209 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: this feel like the two issues are connected, when in 210 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: reality they're totally separate. 211 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: There's also a very real concern over the ability to 212 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: supply ordinance to Israel should it need it in this 213 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: if this turns into an extended war, especially if you 214 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: get into a Hezbola front in the north. The munitions 215 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: that Israel will need numbers. It's a very high function, 216 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: a very high end military. But you know, the industrial 217 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: capacity has its limitations in military industrial capacity if we 218 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: have to help provide to Israel if this war gets 219 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: extended or expanded. It also is an issue because we've 220 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: been over extended recently trying to support Ukraine with all 221 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: the munitions it needs against Russia. So you know, we're 222 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: becoming the arsenal. Possibly here could happen. We could become 223 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: the arsenal and effect of two different conflicts that we're 224 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: actually not fighting in. And what does that mean for us? 225 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: Now? What does that mean for us now? Is tough? 226 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: What does it also mean for China? Because if you 227 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: were looking and truly wanted to go in on Taiwan? 228 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: Has there been a better time in modern history for 229 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: China to invade Taiwan than right now? We basically have 230 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: a two fronted war already. Could we even support Taiwan? 231 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: We can barely support Ukraine. Israel is going to have 232 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: a lot of demands. It's almost we're getting closer and 233 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: closer to tiptoeing up I hate to say it to 234 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: an actual world war. You got war in the Middle East, 235 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: you got war in Europe, got war in Asia. I 236 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: don't know what the technical definition know a world war is. 237 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 4: Clay, but it ain't good. Happy Friday. Yeah, no, I 238 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: would just saying it ain't good. 239 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how many different fronts you 240 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: have to have to effectively have a world war. But 241 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: we ain't very far off, especially when you look at China, 242 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 3: Russia and Iran. Actually all working in concert together, isn't 243 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: putin right now? Visiting chairman Z, let's update the towel 244 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: you reach for when you jump out of the shower 245 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: every day, my pillow. 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We've 266 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: been talking, obviously a great deal all week long about 267 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: the Israeli response to the Hamas terror attack, and we 268 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: bring in now David Affoon of the New York Sun, 269 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: who we've had on to talk about this situation in general. 270 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: And I want to start with this question. Thanks for 271 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: coming with us, joining us here on this Friday. 272 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: Why do you think we aren't talking more in the media, 273 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: both in the United States and I would argue around 274 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: the world about the hostages here, particularly in America, because 275 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: we know some of those hostages are American. It seems 276 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: to me that should be one of the primary topics 277 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: of conversation. There's almost no discussion about that. Why do 278 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: you think it is? 279 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 6: I mean, that's a great question, a very important question. 280 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 6: I mean, certainly in Israel that is top of mind, 281 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 6: and it is the center point of the discussion. I think, 282 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 6: you know, I would even go a step further. You know, 283 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 6: it does seem that, you know, in the wake of this, 284 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 6: you know, horrendous terror attacks, massacre of Jewish people since 285 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 6: the Holocaust, there was you know, about two or three 286 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 6: days of sympathy and interest from the international press, and 287 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 6: you know, all of the attention now is on the 288 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 6: situation in Gaza, and you know, it's just quite something 289 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 6: to see. I mean, take for example, this morning, Greta Thumberg, 290 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 6: who has posted three tweets since October seventh. Nothing to 291 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 6: say about the Israeli children that were butchered, nothing to 292 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 6: say about the hostages, nothing to say about Israeli hostages, 293 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 6: including a nine month old baby, nothing to say about 294 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 6: American hostages, and there are hostages from other countries as well. 295 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 6: You know, she's calling for a seat fire, justice and 296 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 6: freedom from Palestinians. So you know, it's high to escape 297 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 6: the feeling hard to escape the view that a lot 298 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 6: of people just don't care, you know, when it comes 299 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 6: to the Jewish State, when it comes to Jewish people 300 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 6: being targeted. Another great example is the strike that we 301 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 6: saw this week, or the blast at a hospital in Gaza. 302 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 6: Initially Hamas was claiming that it was conducted by the 303 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 6: Israeli Air Force. Israel immediately released intelligence information, highly classified 304 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 6: intelligence information, including satellite footage recordings, video imagery, showing that 305 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 6: this hospital was hit by a misfired Palestinian Islamic g 306 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 6: had rocket, and all of a sudden, the outrage, the 307 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 6: condemnation was gone. Suddenly nobody was outraged, nobody had condemnations 308 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 6: for Islamic she had the second and it was clear 309 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 6: that this was something that could not be blamed on 310 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 6: the Jewish State. You know, radio silence from all of 311 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 6: the great humanitarians around the world. 312 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: There's now been many days where we described the imminence 313 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: Israeli you know, IDF invasion, incursion, military operation into Gaza. 314 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: What do you think that is the delay just a 315 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: question of trying to gather the utmost intelligence. Is there 316 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: any sense inside of Israel that there's some option that 317 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: could be pursued other than a major military response, you know, effectively, 318 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: what is the cause in your mind of the waiting 319 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: we're going through right now. 320 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's a really good question. It could be, 321 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 6: but I hope it isn't a product of pressure being 322 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 6: placed on the Israeli government by the United States and 323 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 6: others against moving in. Certainly, as Bola has said that 324 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 6: they would launch and all out Assiut from the north 325 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 6: growth goes in. But I think, you know, everybody in 326 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 6: Israel's military establishment understands that this is different, and the 327 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 6: only way to secure that border, to ensure and stand 328 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 6: by a promise to the Israeli people that something like 329 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 6: this could never happen again, is to take that territory. 330 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 6: You know, I think I mentioned this in the last show. 331 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 6: But interestingly, before Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Niahu started his 332 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 6: career in politics, he had a career as a anti 333 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 6: terrorism expert. You know, his brother Yoni was killed in 334 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: nineteen seventy six during the famous in Tebi Ray, which 335 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 6: was a counter terrorism operation, and that inspired the young 336 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 6: prime minister to focus on the question of fighting terrorism 337 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 6: and how democracies can fight terrorism, and you know, one 338 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 6: of the first books that he publishes called Fighting Terrorism, 339 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 6: And you know, one of the recurring themes in this 340 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 6: book is this idea that you know, democracies can effectively 341 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 6: come back to terrorism as long as the terrorists do 342 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 6: not control territory. You know, if there is terrorism within 343 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 6: a democracy, they're always on the run. Law enforcement, counterintelligence, 344 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 6: counter terrorism intelligence will keep them on the run and 345 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 6: will keep them hiding, and you know, their capacity to 346 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 6: cause damage will remain limited. But when they control territory 347 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 6: is when they're at the most dangerous And we know 348 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 6: nine to eleven happened when al Cata was free to 349 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 6: develop resources, plan and operate freely in Afghanistan. Obviously, some 350 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 6: of the worst terror attacks against European targets took place 351 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 6: when Isis controlled territory in northern Syria. And now you 352 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 6: have a situation where surrounding Israel on three of its 353 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 6: borders are these sort of many terrorist states that have 354 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 6: the capacity to launch these kind of you know, really 355 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 6: really devastating assaults to the tax on the church population 356 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 6: and Israel's population. Both those are what we saw the 357 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 6: last couple of weeks, but also firing rockets and hundreds 358 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 6: of thousands of them now that they that they have 359 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 6: that can really brings ready Comic to stand still and 360 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 6: inflict a great deal of damage. So the Israelis know 361 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 6: that the key to their security is holding land. The 362 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 6: question is, you know whether they're going to go back 363 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 6: to that and how far are they going to be 364 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 6: willing to go in order to achieve that security, both 365 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 6: in Lebanon potentially if that front opens up, but certainly 366 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 6: in Cosm Dovid. 367 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: One of the things we've seen is, for better or worse, 368 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: American interest doesn't last forever when there are non American 369 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: related entities right directly involved. And I'm just pointing to 370 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: Ukraine now, where if you remember, everybody cared about Ukraine. 371 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: Every left winger, it felt like, had the Ukraine flag 372 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 3: and their profile picture. There were Ukraine flags up all 373 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: over the United States, and then you kind of look, 374 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: most people don't really seem to care that much about 375 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: Ukraine now, and I think Zelensky's even afraid about that. 376 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: And there's going to be a legit battle now over 377 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 3: Joe Biden trying to get over sixty billion dollars in 378 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 3: additional funding for Ukraine. And the reason why I asked 379 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 3: that question is do you have a sense? And I 380 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: know it's early, but how long do you think this 381 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: is going on? Ukraine has entered into a stalemate where 382 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: basically neither side is moving very much. What do you 383 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: think the time frame is for Israel as it pertains 384 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: to this Gaza front and obviously depends on how many 385 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: other countries might get involved. But if it's just Gaza, 386 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 3: what are we talking about here? In six months? Are 387 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: things back to a state of comparative normalcy? 388 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: Is it a year? Is it less than that? How 389 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: would you assess the time frame? 390 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 6: Well, looks two points that would make on this score. 391 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 6: I mean, first of all, you know, I understand and 392 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 6: you know appreciate it can sern a lot of Americans have, 393 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 6: especially at the time when you know inflations through the roof, 394 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 6: A lot of people are having difficulty putting food on 395 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 6: the table and paying the basic expenses, you know, over 396 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 6: the costs of American support or you know, any kind 397 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 6: of foreign activity. But I do want to stay and 398 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 6: I think this is important that the question of how 399 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 6: much blood and treasure America should commit to anything that's 400 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 6: happening around the world is different from the question of 401 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 6: whose side are we on, you know, and who is 402 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 6: right and who is wrong? And even Americans and public 403 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 6: figures who are saying, well, we can't afford this right now. 404 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 6: You know, that can be a debate. That's a debate 405 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: that you can have. But what's been shocking to see 406 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 6: is how that sort of translates into, you know, a 407 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 6: sympathetic line for Hamas or a sympathetic line for Russia. 408 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 6: You know, we need to be clear and Americans to 409 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 6: be clear on who the good guys and who the 410 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 6: bad guys are. And if it's not money, we can 411 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 6: share intelligence. It doesn't cost much, but certainly moral support. 412 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 6: It's important for the Israelis to know that they have 413 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 6: the American people have that back. It's important for the 414 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 6: Ukrainians to know that the American people. 415 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: Have that back. 416 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 6: That we as a country, as a people are on 417 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 6: the side of democracy. We're on the side of freedom, 418 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 6: and we're on the side of right versus wrong. And 419 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 6: that's separate from the question of you know, how much 420 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 6: money we're we the country has available to commit to 421 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 6: this or that theater. I mean, that's that's the first point. 422 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 6: The second point in terms of and that should be 423 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 6: permanent I mean that should go on forever. You know, 424 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 6: there should never be a wavering in America's commitment to 425 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 6: who's right in in in these in these conflicts, who's 426 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 6: on the right side and who's on the wrong side 427 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 6: of history in terms of in terms of the patients 428 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 6: and the capacity. I mean, look, you know, things are 429 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: definitely bogged down in Russia and Ukraine. It's a very 430 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 6: different scenario with Israel. I mean, obviously, the military is 431 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 6: overwhelmingly powerful. You know, it's not likely to be a stalemate. 432 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 6: You know, to to retake Gaza, which you know it is, 433 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 6: is what it would take to really dismantle harmas permanently. 434 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 6: You know, it's something that can be done, you know, 435 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 6: probably for four to eight weeks. I mean the speed 436 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 6: in which they perceive will have a lot to do 437 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 6: with how cautious they want to be in the process. 438 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's going to be a bloody battle, 439 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 6: that's going to be door to door. But you know, America, 440 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 6: you know, the relationship between America and Israel is very 441 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 6: different between the relationship with the relationship between America and Ukraine. 442 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: You know, it's it's that there are certain aid packages, 443 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 6: most of them are being spent in the in the 444 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 6: United States, and they're certainly, you know, a very strong, 445 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 6: you know, mutually beneficial arrangement on the intelligence level and 446 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 6: in terms of military development, et cetera. So, you know, 447 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: the Israeli people fight their own battles. They have done 448 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 6: from from from the beginning, and it's not what they're 449 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 6: asking from from the United States. What they need is 450 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 6: diplomatic cover, intelligence sharing, and moral support for American people. 451 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 6: With America on the side of Israel, there's nothing that 452 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 6: they can't get done. 453 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 4: Dovid. 454 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: My friends who still work in the the national security sphere, 455 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: you know, down here in d C. Their biggest concern 456 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: is that a second front opens with Hezbollah in the 457 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: north and the thousands of rockets that Hesbela has are 458 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: are unleashed on the state of Israel while it's trying 459 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: to clean out the nest of of Hamas terrorists in 460 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: northern Gaza. How how likely do you think that possibility 461 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: is and how do you assess Hesbelah's calculations about whether 462 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: or not they're going to try to open that second front? 463 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's it's certainly would 464 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 6: would make it, you know, a tougher scenario than it 465 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 6: is than it is right now. You know, certainly a 466 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 6: lot of the strategy is being conducted from from Kharan, 467 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 6: and we know that Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy. You know, 468 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 6: there'll be a calculation of risk in terms of what 469 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 6: the likely Israeli response is going to be and the 470 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 6: Americans response. I mean, you have American military resources that 471 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 6: have made their way down to the region as a 472 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 6: sign and as a warning. But in terms of Israel's 473 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 6: capacity to fight on two fronts, I mean, Israel's mobilized 474 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty thousand soldiers. They have half a 475 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 6: million soldiers that are now mobilized, which you know, for 476 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 6: a country of nine million people, it's you know, it's 477 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 6: six seven percent of the entire country. I mean, you 478 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 6: speak to people in the center of Israel and they'll 479 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 6: tell you there's just no men around. There's no man around. 480 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 6: The entire country is mobilized. And you know, this is 481 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 6: a country that has fought existential battles on a number 482 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 6: of occasions. I mean, in nineteen seventy three and nineteen 483 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 6: sixty seven, it was fighting on the Syrian Front, it 484 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 6: was fighting on the Egyptian Front. It was fighting on 485 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 6: the Udanian Front nineteen forty eight when Israel's independence was 486 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 6: first declared. They were fighting eight different different Arab armies. 487 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 6: So you know this isn't something you to Israel. This 488 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 6: is a country that is mobilized to defend its borders, 489 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 6: to defend its people. It's a country that knows that 490 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 6: you know, the entire the world's Jewish community. The safety 491 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 6: of the world Jewish community depends on its strength. And 492 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 6: you know you have a people and an armory that 493 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 6: are motivated, that are fired up and ready to do 494 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 6: whatever it takes to defend the Jewish state and to 495 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 6: secure its borders. 496 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: Dovid, thanks very much. 497 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: Will likely touch base with you again as this process continues. 498 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 4: Have the best weekend that you. 499 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 6: Can man anytime. 500 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 3: But who's there for families left behind when a service 501 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: member or first responder dies or is catastrophically injured in 502 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: the line of duty. 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Find it in their podcast feed, 523 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 524 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Friday Edition. 525 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: Hope all of you are having a good time as 526 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: you get ready to roll into the weekend. 527 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 4: Some good news. 528 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure it was accurate, given that 529 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: we got so much craziness going on over in the 530 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 3: Gaza region. We have had a two American hostages released. 531 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: By the way, we still don't know, at least I 532 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: haven't seen the official number of how many American citizen 533 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: hostages are being held. But I want to share from 534 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: Trey yinst who does incredible work at Fox News. He's 535 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: been on the ground in Israel since all this started. 536 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: He tweeted more info on the release of the two 537 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: American hostages from Gaza, and I'm reading from his tweet. 538 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: A source with knowledge of the release confirmed to Fox 539 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: News the two American hostages are a mother and a daughter. 540 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: They were released on humanitarian grounds falling following Katari mediation efforts. 541 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: So this is certainly very good news. Again, a mom 542 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: and a daughter. They have been handed over to the 543 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: Red Cross and are on their way out. A source 544 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: familiar with negotiations said, this is from CNN's Caitlin Collins. 545 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: The two American hostages have been handed over because the 546 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: mother is in poor health. That is a message. A 547 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: tweet that was just sent from CNN as well, So 548 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: both CNN and Fox News reporting that. 549 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: A mom and a daughter have been released. That is 550 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: very good news. 551 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: I would hope that this would redouble you just heard 552 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: us talking about it more American media attention at a 553 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: minimum on the American hostages to get them out. We 554 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: still don't know what that exact number of American hostages is, 555 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: but I wanted to share a mom and a daughter 556 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: being released, and they are being released to the Red Cross. 557 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: So hopefully that can pressage further good news that could 558 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: come out, not only for the American hostages, but also 559 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: for the Israeli hostages. We believe there are roughly two 560 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: hundred hostages still being held by Hamas we still don't 561 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: know exactly what that number is. Also a small update 562 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: for you on the House speakers race. They are having 563 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: a closed ballot as to whether or not Jim Jordan 564 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: should remain as the potential Republican speaker candidate. It does 565 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: not seem likely, at least right now, that there's going 566 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: to be any strong resolution of the speakers race as. 567 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 4: We go forward. 568 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: So we are going to be joined when we come 569 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: back at the top of the next hour by Denesh Desuza. 570 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: He has got a new documentary out about the status 571 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: of the I would say American police State. 572 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 4: I think that's the name of the movie. 573 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: Basically that exists as it pertains two conservatives in this country, 574 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: and we will talk about, for instance, the arrest and 575 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: imprisonment of a guy for sharing a meme that was 576 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: not well received. Seven months in prison for that. Good 577 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: conversation coming with Denesh and SUSA. Thanks for hanging out. 578 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 4: With us on Friday. 579 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome back to the Clay Travis en 580 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Show. Our friend Denesh Juza joins now. He 581 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: has made some phenomenal documentaries in the past, have been 582 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: incredibly successful, not just at the box office, but also 583 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: at moving the conversation. His latest film is Police State, 584 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: The Police Statefilm dot Net. That's police Statefilm dot Net. 585 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: It's got a lot of our friends of the show 586 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: in this one, including Senator Paul Jim Jordan, Julie Kelly, 587 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: Cash Bettel. Denesh, first off, congratulations on being a grandfather. 588 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 5: Thank you, very exciting new chapter of life. 589 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: Yes, also congratulations on the new documentary. Tell me a 590 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: bit about what police State is trying to tell this 591 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: audience because we often talk about the weaponization of law 592 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 2: enforcement against the well the right, and against everyday folks. 593 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: What are you showing everybody, and what I'm sure is 594 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: a very powerful documentary. 595 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 5: Well, I want people to understand that the country is 596 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 5: not very far away from being a full fledged police state. 597 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 5: I mean a shocking idea. Because we think of ourselves 598 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 5: as the free world. We tend to look at unfree 599 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 5: societies and say, yeah, we got police states. But that's 600 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 5: North Korea, that's China, that's the old Soviet Union. But 601 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 5: many of the defining aspects of a police state. Think 602 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 5: of mass surveillance, think of systematic censorship, think of political 603 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 5: indoctrination in the schools and the media, the effort to 604 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 5: create a one party state and walk up the leader 605 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 5: of the opposition party. Think about criminalizing descent, suppressing religious liberty, 606 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 5: political prisoners. And you realize as you go down this 607 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 5: kind of standards that many, if not all, of these 608 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 5: things are now, to one degree or another, quite manifest 609 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 5: in the United States. So the movie has two kinds 610 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 5: of people in it. It has whistleblowers and informants who 611 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 5: tell you how this police state is constructed. The sort 612 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 5: of architecture of it. And then you've got ordinary citizens 613 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 5: just going about their normal life who have come face 614 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 5: to face with the police state. Because I want to 615 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 5: answer the guy who says, in effect, you know, I'm 616 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 5: not Trump, and I didn't go in the Capitol in 617 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 5: January sixth, and I play my taxes, and so you know, 618 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 5: nothing's ever going to happen to me. The FBI is 619 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 5: never going to come smashing through my door. And I 620 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 5: think that that is a reckless attitude, and that guy 621 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 5: couldn't be more wrong. So the film is a kind 622 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: of a warning about how fast we are losing our liberties. 623 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 4: Denessh, I appreciate you coming on. 624 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 3: How much do you think this is directly connected to 625 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: Donald Trump becoming president? Or did Trump just shine a 626 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 3: light on a direct we were already headed? In other words, 627 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: you know this and the history is rife with examples 628 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: like this. Many times people become threatened by something and 629 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: in an effort to combat that threat, they become far 630 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: worse than it ever would have been itself. And I 631 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: think again, on a historical level, the response to Trump 632 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 3: has been like that. I'm curious how much you think 633 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: it is Trump related. The excesses of the left, and 634 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: how much it doesn't even necessarily correlate with him at all. 635 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 4: He just happens to be the man in the arena 636 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 4: right now. 637 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 5: Well, I would say that two things are simultaneously true. 638 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 5: Number One, that Trump was had the effect of scaring 639 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 5: and exposing the police state to a remarkable degree, and 640 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 5: he threatened the entire bureaucracy. And as a result of 641 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 5: this perceived threat, the left was willing to up the 642 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 5: ante and do things that go so far outside the 643 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 5: conventions of normal politics. Look, let's say that they went 644 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 5: after Trump and had a single indictment and said, look, 645 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 5: you hung on to these classified papers. We tried to 646 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 5: get him back, but you stubbornly refused. You know, we 647 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 5: could look at that case. But ninety one indictments in 648 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 5: multiple jurisdictions, federal and state, with a shotgun approach of 649 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 5: if we can't get him in DC, we'll get him 650 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 5: in Georgia. We can't get him in Georgia, maybe in Florida. 651 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 5: If that doesn't work, maybe New York. If we can't 652 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 5: get him on the criminal we'll smash his businesses through 653 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 5: a civil I mean, this is classic police state buggery. 654 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 5: And if it was occurring in any other country, we 655 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 5: would be screaming about it. 656 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: Being to Danesh Jasuza, author and filmmaker his latest movie 657 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: which is out for you'll see Police State. Go to 658 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: police Statefilm dot Net and Denesh, the two tier justice 659 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 2: system is also something that I I'm sure you get into, 660 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 2: and it's something that we talked about here frequently on 661 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: the show. I mean, you mentioned all the get Trump 662 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 2: at any cost efforts out there. I mean, it would 663 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: be laughable if it wasn't so tragic. At the same 664 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: time that they've got some former president who's going to 665 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 2: be eighty soon, who all of a sudden has four 666 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 2: criminal indictments, never before in his life indicted for anything, 667 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: and now there's four criminal indictments out there against him, 668 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: all seemingly picked to be in jurisdictions where they think 669 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 2: they have a pretty good shot of getting them, particularly 670 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: in the DC in New York cases. And then you 671 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: look at the Hunter Biden situation, and you look at 672 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: other favored Democrats, you look at Hillary Clinton, you look 673 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: at Bill Clinton, and it feels like in our politics 674 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 2: today there's a different justice system depending on which party 675 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: affiliation you have. 676 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 5: Absolutely I think it's important to realize, however, that this 677 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 5: is not simply a matter of a double standard. The 678 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 5: double standard conceals a single standard that is hiding behind it. 679 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 5: So police states always offer immunity to the people who 680 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 5: are helping to build or administer the police state, and 681 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 5: they always go after the people who threaten the police hit. 682 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 5: That's a consistent single standard. And so look at all 683 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 5: the for example, the Palestine and Hamas guys whore in 684 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 5: the Cannon building yelling and screaming. If you watch those guys, 685 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 5: they're in the building, they're doing all the things that 686 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 5: the January sixth protesters are accused of. They're in a 687 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 5: they shouldn't be in the building. Who let them in? 688 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 5: How do they get through the metal detectors. They're parading 689 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 5: in an official building, They're obstructing an official proceeding, and 690 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 5: yet you won't see even the slightest hinterfere in their eyes. 691 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 5: Why because they know deep down that there is no 692 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 5: way they are going to be charged. There's no way 693 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 5: they're going to be in solitary confinement and spend months 694 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 5: in prison. There's no way that they're going to be 695 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 5: facing years of confinement and a ruination of their families. 696 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 5: Look at Jamal Bowman when he goes and pulls a 697 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 5: fire alarm, do you think for one moment across his mind, Hey, listen, 698 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 5: you know I'm going to be charged, I'm going to 699 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 5: be arrested, I'm going to be in prison. Not at all, 700 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 5: he knew I have immunity. They're never going to go 701 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 5: after me. I think Biden has that same sense of 702 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 5: being above the law because by and large, police states 703 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 5: protect the people who are helping to build the police states. 704 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 5: The Democrats protect against the crimes of the FBI, and 705 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 5: the FBI protects the crimes of the Democrats. 706 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 4: Dennis, how do you fix it? 707 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 5: The way you fix it is, first of all, I 708 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 5: think that the right patriots, the Christians, the Republicans need 709 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 5: to recognize that we are no longer living in a 710 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 5: situation of normal politics, and therefore the normal Republican boiler plate, 711 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 5: which is things like I can't do what the Democrats 712 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 5: are doing. I'm better than that, I'm a man of principle. 713 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 5: Reminds me a little bit of Jimmy Stewart and the 714 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 5: man who shot Liberty Valence, where in the beginning of 715 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 5: the movie, you know he's a small town lawyer. He's like, yeah, 716 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 5: I know there are outlaws, but you know, I'm going 717 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 5: to rely on my law books. I'm going to file 718 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 5: an official complaint. And that works if you're in a 719 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 5: small town with a good sheriff. But if you go 720 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 5: out in a covered wagon out west and you have 721 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 5: all these outlaws, they encircle your homestead, they want to 722 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 5: burn your ranch and rape your wife and kill your kids, 723 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 5: you go, hey, listen, I'm not going to defend myself 724 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 5: because I'm better than that. I'm not going to do 725 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 5: the same thing as the outlaws. You know, I'm gonna 726 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 5: I'm a man of principle. I mean, you would show 727 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 5: that you have no grasp of the situation at all. 728 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 5: And so I think the movie I liken it to 729 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 5: me being an animal that sees a predator in the 730 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 5: trees and I'm trying to warn the herd that we're 731 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 5: all in danger, and this kind of placid grazing as 732 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 5: if to say, no, no, Dnash, it's only the wind. 733 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 5: Or Yeah, maybe there's a predator, but he's going to 734 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 5: jump on somebody else's back, not mine. This is a 735 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 5: very reckless and dangerous attitude to have. 736 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 4: Denish. 737 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 2: It feels like we're heading towards some kind of a 738 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: a maybe pinnacle of the police state situation here with Trump. 739 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 2: I'm wondering what you think is likely to occur between 740 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: now and the election. I was going to say, this 741 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: is something that we're in obviously unprecedented territory. We have 742 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 2: a former president who is facing the weaponization of the 743 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: deep state that was working against him while he was president. 744 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 2: Now he's a technically a private citizen. He's the primary 745 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: Republican candidate, and he's got all these trials against him. 746 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: Do you think that this could be the moment that 747 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 2: the American people recognize the extent that the police state 748 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: actually threatens the republic that it pretends to be protecting. 749 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, the police state has gotten as far as it 750 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 5: has because it's camouflaged. Right, This is not Stalin's police state. 751 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 5: Whether if they arrest you at the train station, they 752 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 5: don't have to give you a reason, they just go, 753 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 5: you're on a list, come with me. Our police state 754 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 5: has to march and does march behind the banner of 755 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 5: saving democracy, of upholding truth against misinformation and disinformation, administering 756 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 5: the rule of law, you know, which is it's not 757 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 5: that we want to go after Trump, Dinesh, but we 758 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 5: have no one's above the law, even affirming freedom. So 759 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 5: a lot of Americans are lulled into a sense that 760 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 5: things are on the up and up, even with Trump 761 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 5: in court. They go, well, there's a judge, and there's 762 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 5: a bailiff, and there's a. 763 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 6: Jury, and there's legal procedures. 764 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 5: Are being established. So things seem like they are being 765 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 5: carried out in the normal manner. But the problem with 766 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 5: the police state is that you have the outward trappings 767 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 5: of law, but police states are inherently lawless. Now, you 768 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 5: are quite right, who knows what's going to happen next year? 769 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 5: You'd have to say that with ninety one charges, the 770 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 5: chance that Trump will be convicted of something is extremely high. 771 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 5: I would put that at ninety percent. Now, what's the 772 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 5: chance that he will actually be in jail or confined 773 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 5: while running for president? I mean, imagine the spectacle of that, 774 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 5: and I have to give that a fifty percent chance. 775 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 5: So I think that we are in completely uncharged territory 776 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 5: and it's impossible to predict what will happen next year. 777 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: Nanash, I want to hammer this home. You were making 778 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 3: the using the example and pointing out, Hey, people think 779 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: that this is not going to happen to them on 780 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 3: some level, and they're not necessarily paying attention to what's 781 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 3: going on. I think we talked about this a little 782 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 3: bit earlier in the program, but we got a guy 783 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: who put a meme up of Hillary Clinton clearly making 784 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 3: a joke, and he got seven months in prison for that. 785 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw that story. So people out there 786 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 3: who are just making jokes online, if the jokes offend 787 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 3: the wrong people, you can go down. I mean, I'm 788 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 3: still totally befuddled by how that ended up happening. 789 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 5: Well, we have a lot of this in the film, 790 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 5: ordinary people who experience what Orwell called the boot stamping 791 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 5: on the human face in many different ways. I'll give 792 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 5: us another example that is just just as preposterous, and 793 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 5: that is that, let's imagine that you were a business 794 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 5: guy who went to Washington, DC on January fifth of 795 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one for a business meeting. Or you're a 796 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 5: kid who has flown into Washington, DC to let's say, 797 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 5: spend the weekend with your dad. You're not a Trump 798 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 5: story go to the rally. You didn't go inside the Capitol. 799 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 5: You had nothing to do with any of that, But 800 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 5: you simply travel to Washington, DC. Do you realize that 801 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 5: to this date you are on a list and air 802 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 5: marshals are following you when you travel now around the 803 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 5: country because you have a threat tag on your name 804 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 5: and you are seen as a potential terrorist. This is 805 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 5: happening to people who, as I say, went to Washington 806 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 5: DC around that time, even though they have no involvement whatsoever. 807 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 5: And we know this because we I've got confirmation from 808 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 5: air marshals who have actually done this. So this kind 809 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 5: of stuff is in the film, and I think it's 810 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 5: going to show people that it might begin with Trump, 811 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 5: it might begin with the political prisoners of January sixth, 812 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 5: but pretty soon it spreads very contagiously to the rest 813 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 5: of the population. 814 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,879 Speaker 3: Danesh the Sue's our guest. If people want to see 815 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 3: the film, how do they watch it? 816 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 5: The film is in hundreds of theaters on two days, 817 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 5: October twenty third, Monday, this coming Monday in October twenty fifth, 818 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 5: and the tickets are at police Statefilm dot Net. 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