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Speaker 2: My brother in law insulted my brother with down syndrome,

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Speaker 2: so I threatened to call the cops on him.

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Speaker 3: Get a stand on business business.

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Speaker 2: My Hobby male forty I female thirty five have been

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Speaker 2: together ten years, married for five. We bought a fixer

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Speaker 2: upper two years ago and finally completed upgrades and repairs

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Speaker 2: just in time to host Christmas. Both sides of the

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Speaker 2: family came my parents, my brother Frank male thirty and

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Speaker 2: his girlfriend now fiance, Lilah female twenty nine, and my

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Speaker 2: Hobby's parents and his brother Todd, male thirty two. By

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Speaker 2: the way, this comes from reputation Asleep eighty nine oh

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Speaker 2: go to our slashokey story Time Separate it. So, since

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Speaker 2: it's relevant, I'll mention that my brother Frank has down syndrome,

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Speaker 2: graduated from high school and college. He has his BA

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Speaker 2: in Early Childhood Education. He also has his own apartment

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Speaker 2: and his own car. He works full time as a

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Speaker 2: preschool teacher, and his shop loves him. I have freaking

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Speaker 2: amazing parents, and when Frankie was born, their attitude was

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Speaker 2: you'll do as much as you're encouraged to do, and

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Speaker 2: we all invested heavily in helping Frankie, helping frank be

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Speaker 3: That's great, great parenting right there.

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Speaker 2: All that, I never felt left out or forgotten by

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Speaker 2: my folks, by the way, they worked really hard to

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Speaker 2: make sure we both had a great childhood.

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Speaker 3: My Hobby and frank are total bros.

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Speaker 4: Lol.

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Speaker 2: Frank was his best man in our wedding, and after

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Speaker 2: being friends with Frankie for a few years, he switched

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Speaker 2: his job as a high school English teacher to a

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Speaker 2: special education teacher. It required some extra schooling, but my

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Speaker 2: dude loves his job so much now and he's so happy,

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Speaker 2: so obviously, frank is popular in the family. At the party,

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Speaker 2: I knew my Hobby and Frank were up to something

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Speaker 2: because they were whispering a lot in grinning. Right before dessert,

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Speaker 2: Frank stood up and talked about how this year had

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Speaker 2: been the in his life. He said he wished he

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Speaker 2: could keep his life this way forever. My hubby pipes

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Speaker 2: up with if you like it, then you better put

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Speaker 2: a ring on it, and tossed Frank a ring box.

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Speaker 3: He got down on one knee and asked Lilah to

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Speaker 2: It's cute because they got permission, she of course said,

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Speaker 2: head gap. It was so touching, and honestly, everyone was

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Speaker 2: and he and my hobby have never been close. When

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Speaker 2: we all stopped hugging and sat down, Todd muttered finally

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Speaker 2: under his breath. Everyone heard it, though, because he absolutely

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Speaker 2: He said, and I quote, I'm not that interested in

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Speaker 3: Can have a real life.

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Speaker 2: I almost caught a charge because I about the old

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Speaker 3: Frank just laughed at him and asked still.

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Speaker 2: Single, huh, Frank freaking gotcha, which made everyone laugh. Todd

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Speaker 2: Todd got mad and told my hobby that the embarrassment

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Speaker 2: functioning adults, and yet they're not the ones making the

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Speaker 3: Dude, who's the functioning adult now? Certainly not you?

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Speaker 2: And that My hubby stood up, yanked Todd's chair out

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Speaker 3: Refused to leave on his own.

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Speaker 2: After apologizing to Frank and Lilah. We told them they

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Speaker 3: Than welcome to stay, but they left anyways.

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Speaker 2: This morning, I woke up to a bunch of texts

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Speaker 2: I was kind about it, but I said no. I

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Speaker 2: told her it's between Hobby and Todd, and I respected

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Speaker 2: family's getting torn apart and I'm allowing it. I told

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Speaker 3: It up with him. She hung up crying. I still don't.

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Speaker 2: Think Hobby and I were wrong here at all, but

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Speaker 2: I truly like my mother in law, and those two

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Speaker 3: Am I the ale here?

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Speaker 4: No? Dude?

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Speaker 3: In what world are you the a hole? Oh?

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Speaker 5: My goodness, she's what the mother in law right is

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Speaker 4: What the freak is Todd doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, let's to use our critical thinking skills here.

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Speaker 2: Who's who's really tearing the family apart? Is it the

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Speaker 2: person who's just trying to have a wedding? Or is

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Speaker 5: If we literally never saw Todd again, if we locked

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Speaker 3: No one would miss him. Not a single person would

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Speaker 4: Tearing the family apart? Great, perfect, rip it it.

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Speaker 3: Additional information from Opie.

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Speaker 2: Opie says, my mother in law has called twice, begging

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Speaker 2: me to interfere and force a discussion. Her tears break

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Speaker 2: my heart. But Todd is just so crappy. I'm honestly

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Speaker 2: And there are some relevant comments. Should we just jump

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Speaker 4: Let's do it. Let's see what they got to saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Commoner one says, not the a hole. Your brother

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Speaker 2: Wrapped around his little finger, though embarrassing for her for sure,

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Speaker 2: But do not even fleetingly consider getting on team Caudle, Todd,

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Speaker 2: Make no mistake, this is not just about your brother

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Speaker 2: He might have been annoyed by this dynamic often over

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Speaker 2: because I've known to have a soft touch. My hobby

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I hate Todd. Bro Todd really socks. Tod

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Speaker 2: Todd is definitely the golden child. But I sense they

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Speaker 2: Commondo two says, your brother in law. Is it because

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Speaker 2: your mother in law enables it? Not the Ale Frank

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Speaker 2: sounds hilarious. Opie says, Frank is the smartay to end

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Speaker 2: all smart days. He is hysterical. What is so cool

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Speaker 3: I love him so much.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like getting him for a brother was

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Speaker 2: the best gift the universe ever gave me. Sweet Commodo

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Speaker 2: three says you are not the Ale is your mother

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Speaker 2: in law asking Todd to apologize, Opie says, I can't

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Speaker 2: imagine she has. When he got a DV charge for

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Speaker 2: slapping his ex fiance, his mom blamed her for being difficult,

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Speaker 2: and you like his mom. This is the mom that

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Speaker 2: I don't like her.

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Speaker 5: Give them all, Mom, Dad, Todd, go bye.

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Speaker 2: We spend very little time with my in laws. I

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Speaker 2: suspect there's going to be even less now. Commondra four says,

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Speaker 2: you said that you truly like your mother in law.

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Speaker 2: Why she excused DV and ableism? She's not a good person.

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Speaker 2: Why do you feel bad for her because she cried?

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Speaker 2: Is crying enough to excuse her behavior? You're not the

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Speaker 2: Ale for not helping excuse his actions. But I'm wondering

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Speaker 2: Opi says, excellent question. She's always been controlling, but she's

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Speaker 3: She's difficult and it was just a slap. Oh that's

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Speaker 3: the mom saying she's difficult and she was just a slap.

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Speaker 5: Dude, mom.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: We didn't see them for almost two years after that,

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Speaker 2: how grossed out we were about her defending Todd, and

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Speaker 2: she apologized profusely, saying she was wrong and that Todd

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Speaker 2: knows she was ashamed of him. My hobby called her

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Speaker 2: apology a load of crap later, but I bought it,

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Speaker 2: I guess, probably because in my family, if someone apologized,

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Speaker 4: Honey, this is not your family.

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Speaker 2: This is absolutely not your family, clearly. But when father

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Speaker 2: in law got sick, we reconnected, and now here we are.

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Speaker 2: Let me assure you, though my tolerance for her is

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Speaker 2: gone for good. I feel like an it for falling

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Speaker 2: for it at all. And there is an update same

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Speaker 2: day four hours later. Update Todd is on Reddit and

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Speaker 2: loves the Ami the Ale group. He talks about it

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Speaker 2: at Christmas. That's pretty much why I posted this. He

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Speaker 2: saw this and my mother in law called and asked

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Speaker 2: me to remove it. I said, no, don't remove it.

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Speaker 2: Let everyone know how much of a problem she is.

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Speaker 5: Frient posters all over town, rend me billboards.

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Speaker 2: Yes, keep away from this woman. She says that it's mean.

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Speaker 2: I told her tod is mean her, and I'm done

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Speaker 2: so true. I told her the post stays up and

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Speaker 2: that I'm never asking hobby.

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Speaker 3: To meet with them again. Smart.

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Speaker 2: I am the Ale I know for encouraging my hobby

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Speaker 2: to have contact with them. And I've apologized Frank's opinion

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Speaker 2: on all of this is the but he hasn't wasted

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Speaker 2: time on ales in the past, and he's not starting now.

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Speaker 2: I apologized him too for inviting my brother in law

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Speaker 2: in the first place. Lila is as snarky as Frank,

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Speaker 2: and she told.

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Speaker 3: Me no cake for him. Well, she's the best I'm

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Speaker 3: made of, honor.

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Speaker 2: So I am working hard to come up with ways

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Speaker 2: Not nonsense that Sofia listening to full episodes with stories

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Speaker 3: And switch a book a story of time.

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Speaker 4: I will it's not nonsense, that's just straight facts.

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Speaker 3: And there is a little bit left. But do you

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Speaker 4: I mean, guys like cut off Todd, the mod them

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Speaker 5: Anyone excusing Todd needs to excuse themselves out of your life.

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Speaker 3: Excuse themselves from the room. I don't want to see them.

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Speaker 4: Just just get him out of here. And that's really it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's really nothing I have to say about that.

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Speaker 2: But to finish this story off, Yes, someone said this

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Speaker 4: You couldn't be more wrong.

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Speaker 2: His stated attitude about people like Todd is that he

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Speaker 2: for everything else, Yes, my hubs is the best. I

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Speaker 4: There we go lovely, hopefully get him the freak.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye, bye bye. I don't even want to see ya,

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Speaker 6: I deleted my niece's graduation pictures because she's being ungrateful.

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Speaker 6: I'm thirty and my niece nineteen is someone who I'll

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Speaker 6: I have her help me with bender gigs and I'll

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Speaker 3: That's when all heck broke loose.

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Speaker 4: You just don't do anything whatsoever. This is crazy.

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Speaker 6: You literally just have to do her a solid and

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Speaker 7: Dude, I'm just surprised she's gone so far in life

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Speaker 4: She's going to find a way to pay for them nails. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: threw it in my face. She started laughing in my face,

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Speaker 6: claiming that I was only mad because she didn't get

443
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Speaker 6: down for the coffee. That honestly hurt my feelings because

444
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,439
Speaker 6: I like to do things out of the kindness of

445
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 6: my heart without throwing them back at someone else's face later.

446
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 3: I wasn't upset that she didn't go down.

447
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 4: For the coffee.

448
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 6: I was upset because she was throwing everything back in

449
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Speaker 6: me that she.

450
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Speaker 3: Claims to have done for me.

451
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Speaker 6: If you're going to do something out of kindness, just

452
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Speaker 6: do it without reminding someone later about it.

453
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 3: I clearly told her this.

454
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Speaker 6: And explained that she never heard me mentioned all the

455
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 6: nice things that I've done for her in the past,

456
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Speaker 6: I've let her use my car when she wants to

457
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Speaker 6: go to the gas station or store.

458
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Speaker 3: If not, I always drive her. There's so much.

459
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Speaker 6: More that I've done for her, and she just yelled back,

460
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 6: telling me that she never asked me to do those

461
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Speaker 6: things for her.

462
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 3: She never asked me to buy her dinner.

463
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Speaker 6: All those times she yelled at me, saying that she

464
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Speaker 6: didn't even ask for graduation pictures and that me and

465
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 6: her mom were forcing her to go to prom. She

466
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 6: even started yelling that my friend Ralph doesn't do anything

467
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 6: for her, even though every time she wants to go

468
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Speaker 6: to her mom's house, which is a forty five minute

469
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Speaker 6: drive from mine, he always takes her. He's also a

470
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Speaker 6: hairstylist and always does her hair, including for prom. She

471
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 6: was complaining about everyone and everything. On the way back home.

472
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Speaker 6: She refused to put her seatbelt on. When I got home,

473
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Speaker 6: I started to put the groceries away and washed a

474
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Speaker 6: few dishes to get dinner started. After washing a few dishes,

475
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Speaker 6: I went outside to speak with my mom about what

476
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Speaker 6: had happened. When I came back in the house to

477
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Speaker 6: finish where I left off, I turned the faucet on

478
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Speaker 6: for the sink and there's a hose attached to it.

479
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 6: It just so happened turned on randomly, and I got

480
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Speaker 6: my whole face and the top of my.

481
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Speaker 4: T shirt wet.

482
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 6: No, obviously I knew it was my niece trying to

483
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Speaker 6: play a prank on me.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's after you. Man, literally, I have

485
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Speaker 3: to get you.

486
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 4: I'm glad she thought of this mild prank, because.

487
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Speaker 3: Anything else she could be much worse.

488
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh my gosh.

489
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Speaker 3: That is just so crazy, though, and so disrespectful.

490
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Speaker 4: It's the internet, man, definitely old enough that name phone.

491
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think this has gotta be I

492
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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 6: It's probably it's something about how she's been raised, or

494
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Speaker 6: maybe just being stupid teenagers.

495
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a.

496
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Speaker 6: Little bit of both, I would agree. She just happened

497
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Speaker 6: to be in the kitchen eating an instant soup, and

498
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 6: she went crazy on me, yelling profusely that it wasn't

499
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 6: her when the water got me wet. She blamed me

500
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 6: for getting some water in her soup, but she started

501
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Speaker 6: pushing me through her soup all over the floor, and

502
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Speaker 6: then got a bottle of windex and sprayed it in

503
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Speaker 6: my face.

504
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Speaker 3: Girl, well, what is happening?

505
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 4: What's going on here?

506
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Speaker 6: This literally feels like Tom and Jerry like just doing

507
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 6: all these red like like, be careful for any any

508
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 6: rakes that are gonna be on the grind step in them.

509
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Speaker 3: The thing's gonna hit your face like this, what's gonna happen?

510
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Speaker 6: She's she spilled her soup on the ground while yelling,

511
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 6: and its sprayed you in the face with windex goodness, gracious,

512
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 6: oh my god. This is so insane that could probably

513
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Speaker 6: make you go blind.

514
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Speaker 3: Next to her eyes.

515
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I told her that some water didn't compare

516
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 6: it to a chemical and she ended up breaking the bottle,

517
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 6: spilling it all over the floor. What She tried to

518
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 6: push me and grabbed my wrists, so I slapped her

519
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 6: wrists so she could get off me. Then she tried

520
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 6: to hit me. I called her mother after that. She

521
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 6: wasn't surprised, but didn't give me much reassurance. I later

522
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 6: heard the two of them and talking on the phone

523
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 6: about what happened. She was giving her mother a sob

524
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 6: story about how she had vinyls and some tests to

525
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Speaker 6: make up. Yet not once during this time had she studied.

526
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 6: She always says that she does and have any homework,

527
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 6: and is always on the phone speaking with her friends

528
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 6: over video chat talking about the most ridiculous nonsense. Not

529
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 6: once this year have I seen her study for anything,

530
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 6: And if you tell her so, she gets upset, claiming

531
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Speaker 6: that nobody is there to help her with schoolwork.

532
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Speaker 3: So I told her I was going to be deleting her.

533
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Speaker 6: Graduation pictures because she was very unappreciative, boiled and conceded,

534
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 6: she yelled at me some more, saying that she didn't

535
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 6: ask for those pictures to be.

536
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: Taken, So I'm going to delete the photos all right.

537
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Speaker 6: I also decided that from now on, I'm not going

538
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 6: to be doing any more favors for her, and I

539
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 6: won't be taking her to school for her graduation practices.

540
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Speaker 3: She'll need to figure that out on her own.

541
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Speaker 6: She asked me for help to get her nails done,

542
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 6: and I decided I will not be helping her out

543
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Speaker 6: with that either.

544
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Speaker 4: Well, you might find that credit order you might have been.

545
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 4: You might helping her out, y'a.

546
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Speaker 6: Honestly, so would I be the a hole for deleting

547
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Speaker 6: her photos? Thank you for all the advice and PS.

548
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 6: I also spoke to my mom and she'll need to

549
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 6: punch her out of the house as soon as she

550
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Speaker 6: graduates and send her back to live with her mom.

551
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 6: Uh And there is a little bit more to the story.

552
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 6: But do we think that op is the a hole?

553
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: No? No, I mean maybe not edit the photos. You

554
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: can keep the photos. Maybe not edit them.

555
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely don't edit them.

556
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 4: Don't send it to them, you can keep them.

557
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 7: She might change, seems like she's gonna have to go

558
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 7: through a lot in life for her to change.

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00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, her mom has not done her any favors,

560
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 4: not at all. Imagine someone talking to you like this,

561
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Speaker 4: if someone did.

562
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Speaker 6: That to me, and when you're like, literally their their

563
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 6: parental figure. Like I know she's not her actual mom,

564
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 6: but she has been acting like a mom her whole.

565
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 6: So like that is no way to talk to your

566
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Speaker 6: parents at all.

567
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Speaker 3: I don't think you'd be the whole. It sounds like

568
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Speaker 3: she doesn't even want the pictures, so honestly, like this.

569
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Speaker 6: Is not even like I if you want to do

570
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 6: this to get back at her, I think something else.

571
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: Yea yeah, no, no, no, you know.

572
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 6: But but because of that, if you want to just

573
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Speaker 6: delete them, just so you know, you can feel like

574
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 6: you've done something, do it because she doesn't even care.

575
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: But there is a little bit more to the story.

576
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Speaker 6: And there's a lot more of us on iHeartRadio, Apple, Podcast, Spotify,

577
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 6: whatever your favorite podcast app is to search Okay Storytime,

578
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 6: and you're gonna find to many more full episodes with

579
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 6: more stories just like this one. So you can listen

580
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Speaker 6: to that late there, but for now, you can listen

581
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Speaker 6: to the rest of this story.

582
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Speaker 3: So update.

583
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Speaker 6: I forgot to mention that the same day we argued,

584
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 6: she was trying to cover herself with this sweater that

585
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 6: she had so I wouldn't talk to her. What after

586
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 6: acting delusional, I took her sweater and threw it in

587
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 6: the parking lot. I immediately felt bad afterwards, so I

588
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 6: told her about five times to get her sweater, but

589
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 6: she ignored me. When I spoke to my mom about it,

590
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 6: she seemed more upset about the sweater being on the

591
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 6: ground than the whole situation. That honestly hurt my feelings,

592
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 6: and I left her a not so nice message through

593
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 6: Facebook messengers, voicemail option. I let those feelings get the

594
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 6: best of me at the time, but I did it

595
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 6: to hopefully make her understand that this is not okay,

596
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 6: and we do have some comments.

597
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Speaker 3: Okay, do you have any comments before we move on?

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Speaker 7: I know, just take a step back from this, is

599
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 7: it the Yeah, Nie, step back from helping the sneeze

600
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 7: out for now. She will come around to it. But

601
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Speaker 7: I've heard that children that are women teenage years are

602
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 7: more difficult. Yeah, It's like someone said, like boys are

603
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 7: difficult as toddlers, and then girls are difficult at teenagers.

604
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 7: I just think it depends on the kid because I

605
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 7: was definitely a difficult team. Yeah, my teenage yeers, Me

606
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 7: and my mom always be button heads.

607
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Speaker 4: But really yeah, on my moments.

608
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Speaker 6: But yeah, this team, it feels like literally nothing you

609
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 6: can do is going to be like appreciated and like

610
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 6: helped out.

611
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Speaker 3: So then don't help her out.

612
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, make her figure out public transit, That's what I

613
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 6: meant to say, you know, make her figure out how

614
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 6: to ride the bus, make her figure out how to

615
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 6: drive for herself. Yeah, you know, how to work get

616
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 6: a car license. Yeah, but we do have some comments comments.

617
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Speaker 6: Drumber One says, WHOA, that's a whole lot of dysfunction.

618
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 6: That's very sad. I don't think you're wrong for deleting

619
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Speaker 6: the photos. After all, she said she didn't ask for them,

620
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 6: so why would she care if they're deleted. She's got

621
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 6: to go back to mom. This is her mess she created.

622
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 6: You have spent most of your life trying to help, support,

623
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 6: and love your sister and niece, and they both do

624
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 6: not appreciate or value your time, effort, and money that

625
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 6: you spent making their lives better. It's time for you

626
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 6: to do some self love this time. Set boundaries with

627
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 6: your family. No longer be a doormat and making everyone

628
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: else's life easier to the detriment of your mental and

629
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 6: physical health. Protect your peace, value and give to people

630
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 6: who value and give back and help your response. Unfortunately,

631
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 6: I just feel they are too dysfunctional and always point

632
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 6: out my flaws versus the good things that I've done.

633
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: So, yes, you are right, it's time for change.

634
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 6: In the past, I ended up just feeling bad for

635
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 6: us arguing, and I ended up just going back and

636
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 6: forgetting about the argument. I continue to do things for her,

637
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 6: and I almost would like doing.

638
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: It that again.

639
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 6: Yesterday she was trying to act like nothing happened. But

640
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 6: I decided that I'm going to keep my word and

641
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 6: I'm not going to do anything for her anymore. Someone responds,

642
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 6: I am sorry, I know this is hard. You're right,

643
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 6: you can't continue this pattern if they flip out and

644
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 6: hate spills out of their mouths about you, and then

645
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 6: when they get over the anger and something from you,

646
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 6: they ask like nothing happened and everything is fine.

647
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: But that's not fair to you.

648
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 6: You are not their old one twoing bag, yet you

649
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 6: are left with all the mental and emotional trauma. You

650
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 6: will have to be strong and it will be tough.

651
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 6: They are going to lose their minds when you break

652
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 6: the cycle. They will struggle with the change, but they

653
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 6: can adapt. We all have to adapt to life's changing

654
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 6: circumstances and they can too. And we have comments. Or

655
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 6: Number two says, the consequence doesn't.

656
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 3: Fit the crime.

657
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 6: You already took the pictures, deleting them is just spiteful

658
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 6: and petty. A true consequence would have her cleaning up

659
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 6: the noodles, placing the wind decks, apologizing, and not getting

660
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 6: any more rides from you. You could also not make

661
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 6: her dinner, not take her to the plushy arcade, and

662
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Speaker 6: not ask her for any more personal help, not expect

663
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Speaker 6: her to take over your business.

664
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Speaker 3: And yeah, she's out once she graduates.

665
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 6: The reality check is that just because your family doesn't

666
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 6: mean that she gets.

667
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: To treat you like crap.

668
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 6: As the adult here, you asking her for help getting

669
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 6: coffee or whatever. You are teaching her kindness and then

670
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 6: you should thank her when she does a kindness and

671
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 6: this kindness builds. For whatever reason she is feeling put upon,

672
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 6: you don't start screaming about being a slave without builds

673
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 6: up resentment, which probably means she doesn't feel appreciated.

674
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: She seems like she may have.

675
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 6: Very little control over her life, waiting for rides, borrowing cars,

676
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: told to go to prom et, cetera. She is lazy

677
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 6: and entitled, but once she takes actual accountability for her life,

678
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 6: she should grow up and mellow a bit. Sounds like

679
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 6: your sister took a long time to get there too,

680
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 6: so don't sink to her level.

681
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: Don't be petty or vindictive. Keeping the peace.

682
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 6: Isn't your job, but finding your own piece is also.

683
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 6: Take some time for self care. You're carrying a lot,

684
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 6: so find some time for yourself, moisturize your ash yourself,

685
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 6: and take yourself on a date. And that is the

686
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 6: end of that story.

687
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 4: It's pretty good advice right there.

688
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: Honestly, Yeah, that was a really good comment.

689
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

690
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't owe this girl anything. You've done so

691
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 7: much for her. Yeah, she just doesn't. I used to

692
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 7: be like this is one mom. Yeah, I was very

693
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 7: you know, only I would only talk to her when

694
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 7: I wanted something, And after moving out, kind of noticing that.

695
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 7: Being on my own, now I call her to check

696
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 7: up on her. Yeah, not whenever I need. I ran

697
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 7: out of shorts and I needed to buy me shorts,

698
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 7: right right.

699
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, I was very pro like deleting the pictures,

700
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 6: but that comment is right, just hang on to the pictures,

701
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 6: don't edit them. Yeah, but it doesn't hard to hang

702
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 6: on to them. You already did that work. So honestly,

703
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 6: it's kind of a disservice to yourself. Yea, alitam I

704
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 6: guess in that way. But yeah, that is true and

705
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 6: in separate yourself. But like that commentary said, don't sink

706
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 6: to her level.

707
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: That's true.

708
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 6: That is good because after all, even though she's bratty,

709
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 6: she is the kid at the end of the day.

710
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you can't you can't fix that. Yeah.

711
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, John Ogi host here, we're gonna get back

712
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: to this episode, but a quick three minute break of

713
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Speaker 5: ads from a sponsor's keeping the show alive.

714
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: My father in law is lying about his occupation and

715
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: we all know it.

716
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: Liar, liar pants on fire.

717
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 4: Running around all right. A few years ago, my thirty

718
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: male wife thirty three female reconnected with her estranged father,

719
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: sixty six male, who was described as a con man

720
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: and a compulsive liar. It had apparently surfaced that the

721
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: reason behind all of this supposed lying was that he

722
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 4: was working under cover with the US Marshal Service the

723
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 4: entire time and wasn't able to tell his family for

724
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: operational security reasons. He just he literally watched the movie

725
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: US Marshals with Tommy Lee Jones and that was it.

726
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like done, I got it.

727
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: He's like, that's me. That's actually my life. I'm committing

728
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: to that. Every job he had had and got fired from,

729
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 4: and every sham marriage he'd had after his divorce from

730
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: my wife's mom was suddenly explained away as being part

731
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: of his cover. By the way, this comes from user

732
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Speaker 4: throw Away Fake Cop And if you want to submit

733
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Speaker 4: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay Stories.

734
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: I'm subburn in so naturally. I was immediately suspicious, as

735
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: claiming to be a spy is a textbook strategy for

736
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 4: compulsive liars to conveniently have a blanket excuse for everything.

737
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: But he supposedly had proof that he showed my wife

738
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: mainly US Marshall memorabilia, metals, badgers' stories, et cetera, and

739
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: he seemed to be having a positive effect on my wife,

740
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 4: so I didn't want to look like a crazy person

741
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: looking to cause trouble for no reason, and let it

742
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: be literally, you're.

743
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: So right though, Yeah, it's the fakest thing.

744
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: I'm a spy. Actually, no, you just don't understand. That

745
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: was all for my cover. Over time, he started doing

746
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: the overprotective dad act and started getting threatening and critical

747
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: towards me, to the point that he started making vague

748
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 4: threats to use his standing with the US Marshals against me,

749
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: the kind of stuff that isn't explicit, but heavily implied

750
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: that he could get me brought up on trumped up charges,

751
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: get unwanted police attention brought on me to psych me out,

752
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: etc et cetera. Usually this wouldn't phase me, but given

753
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: the recent climate with Trump being a legal immigrant, it

754
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: has me seriously worried that I could get deported for

755
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: so much as an incorrect lane change. This also made

756
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: me start getting suspicious because certain things didn't add up,

757
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: and a lot of these came out when his wife

758
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 4: suddenly divorced him out of nowhere. He was in the

759
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 4: process of setting up a drone production company more on

760
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 4: this later, and claimed that the US Marshals were paying

761
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: him with surplus drones rather than a salary. But yeah, yeah, okay, sure, sure,

762
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: I have no experience with the government sector, but it

763
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 4: seems ludicrous to me and like it'd be a huge

764
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: mess of red tape to pay someone with material items

765
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: rather than a salary like everyone else. I am also

766
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: not too familiar with that, but I gotta I'm gonna

767
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: go ahead and say you're right about that. Op I

768
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: would too. He said he had pictures of a harmful

769
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: act he endured while supposedly serving a warrant on a

770
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: fugitive who hit him with a two by four. He

771
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: had an illustrious history to go with it, but there

772
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: wasn't any mention of receiving any compensation or health care

773
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: paid time off. You know, anything you hear about an

774
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: officer usually getting when injured in the line of duty.

775
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: He repeatedly borrowed thousands of dollars for us to pay

776
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 4: for experimental surgery that the government nor his insurance would

777
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: pay for. After the divorce, his wife had no idea

778
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: while we were talking about, leaving us to believe the

779
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: money actually went towards the drones mentioned earlier. He also

780
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 4: showed us some of the pew pews in his collection,

781
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: which he said were loaned to him by the US

782
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 4: Marshall Service. This guy is wild. I vaguely used to

783
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 4: have an interest in the pew pews, so I was

784
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 4: familiar with some of them, but what he said didn't

785
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: seem to add up. He showed a Mossburg five hundred,

786
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: which seemed legit enough, but when he brought out the

787
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: AR fifteen variant, which looked like a regular M four

788
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 4: to me, but instead he insisted it was a special

789
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 4: variant called an M six. Never heard of an M

790
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: six in my life, but again, I'm not an expert.

791
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: That's literally from call duty. After his wife divorced him,

792
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: he has literally no income except for his Social Security.

793
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 4: He's moved into a tiny shack of an apartment that

794
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: he can't afford and is constantly begging for money from everyone.

795
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm naive, but surely someone who's presumably served in

796
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: the US Marshals for as long as he has, which

797
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 4: is at least over twenty years, would have some kind

798
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: of pension or support or something. His undercover stories also

799
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 4: don't add up. He was the manager of for a

800
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 4: county but was exposed for lying about having certain degrees,

801
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: but that was supposedly an undercover mission, and an expose

802
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 4: was a cover to get him out safely. Afterwards, he

803
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: injured his back because he got into a wreck driving

804
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 4: a truck while on meds for a trucking company and

805
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: spent years recovering from a broken back while penniless. That

806
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: was also supposedly undercover, but he had no explanation as

807
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: to why they didn't help him after supposedly getting disabled

808
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: while in the line of duty. He had a sham

809
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: marriage after that that lasted a few months. Again, supposedly

810
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: he was undercovered because the lady worked for Boeing and

811
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: he was meant to investigate them. I'm worried about this guy.

812
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: He gotta do a wellness check. Yeah, father in law

813
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: is rapidly falling down a rabbit hole of delusion. Everyone

814
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: needs like some level of delusion or make believe to

815
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: turn yeah, to make you know, gi give the life

816
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: a little jussance, you know, a little spice interesting. But

817
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 4: you know that's like an inside thing. You're like, yeah,

818
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: you're just like driving your truck and job and you're like,

819
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: I'm working for the US Martin right now, I'm undercover.

820
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: And that's like and that makes your life a little

821
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: you know, a little cool it maybe a little bit it,

822
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: but like fun with it. Yeah, exactly, it should be fun.

823
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: This isn't fun anymore. This is this is becoming concerning. Yes,

824
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: like instead of like what's he doing, it's like he

825
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 4: needs help. Yeah, clearly, yeah, but let's continue. His history

826
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: is full of jobs and firing and marriages like this.

827
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: We're only aware of four marriages, but there may be

828
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: as many as six. His most recent wife divorced him

829
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 4: because she found out he was lying about the drone

830
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: business and taking money from her to fund it. The

831
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: more I type these, the more ridiculous they sound. At

832
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 4: this point, I am ninety percent sure he's lying or

833
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: stretching the truth. Maybe he went for a ride along

834
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: a few times or was made a special deputy temporarily

835
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 4: or was even contracted as a civilian to help them.

836
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: But I'm almost certain that he's being a phony. It's

837
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: just possible to confront him about it because he either

838
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: gets threatening or will tell the most elaborate, meandering stories.

839
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: My wife has since cut him out, so there's no

840
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: real stakes other than us one enclosure about whether he's

841
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: lying for sure or not. Is there an official channel

842
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: I can go through to verify his claims and if not,

843
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: are there any surefire tell tale ways I'm able to

844
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 4: know whether he's lying? And there are some comments I

845
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: will say that I think his theory that like maybe

846
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: there was like one thing that happened, yeah, where he

847
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: worked alongside the US mark like he was never he

848
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 4: was just like involved in it tangentally like yeah, and

849
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: then he just grabbed onto it and made it his

850
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: whole identity.

851
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 6: This really does feel like you're talking to a child,

852
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 6: Like you're talking to a child who was like you know,

853
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 6: some firefighter who was like all right, or policeman like

854
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 6: went to their school and was like, okay, between you

855
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 6: and me, I'm gonna give you this very special badge.

856
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: This means that you can get into any room in

857
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: the whole town.

858
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: They give me a plastic badge, yeah, like star FBI.

859
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly, And then they're just like, yeah, all right,

860
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 6: welly daddy.

861
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah I work for that.

862
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 6: They they have to keep it like really quiet, and

863
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 6: they're taking it really seriously, but also want people to

864
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 6: know how cool they are. You're like, I'm a spy.

865
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 6: It's pretty cool, but you can't know anything about it.

866
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 6: You just have to give me money for undercover reasons.

867
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 6: From everything that we're hearing, it feels like these are

868
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 6: all reasons to believe that it's all fake.

869
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yes, especially dude, you know it's fake

870
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: because he's not getting medical help. Yeah he's disabled from

871
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: a car accident. And the yeah he's not a part

872
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 4: of I mean, I know there's not a great track

873
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 4: record of you know, like the v A in the

874
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: government like helping people get that stuff as fast as possible.

875
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: But regardless, we got comments. Let's see what the comments

876
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: to say. Let's see boy. Comment number one says he

877
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: claimed that the US Marshals were paying him with surplus

878
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 4: drones rather than a sad salary. Uh Nope, that would

879
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 4: never happen. That is not how the federal government operates.

880
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: He showed me some of his pewpews in his collection.

881
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: He said he was loaned by the US Marshal Service. No,

882
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: the marshals don't loan out weapons like their garden tools.

883
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: Surely someone who's served as long as he has in

884
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: the US Marshals would have some kind of pension or

885
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: support or something. Yes, you would be right, and it

886
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: would not be an insignificant sum either. This is all BS.

887
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 4: It is sort of fascinating though, to be so committed

888
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: to such an elaborate lie. Yes, fascinating, but also sad

889
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: to go through life like that. And there's an edit

890
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: to add. Someone DM me about the pewpews being loaned,

891
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: and I am here to tell you it would not happen.

892
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: Every weapon, holster, bulletproof, vest, clip, right down to a

893
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: box of bullets. Everything is cataloged, accounted for, and is

894
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: either assigned or checked out or in and these records

895
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 4: are audited on a regular basis. If anything went missing,

896
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 4: especially a firearm, somebody is going to be in a

897
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: world of hurt. The league term of art would be felony.

898
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 4: That is, that does make sense because I recently read

899
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: something someone said that the US military isn't even like

900
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 4: a it's it's a logistics company that like also does work,

901
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: but they're literally just about it's all logistics from the

902
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 4: top down. Yeah, like sense, so every bully it is

903
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: all catalog like this. Yeah, they're not just giving this

904
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: stuff away. Sure on loan. Sure comment to says you

905
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 4: repeatedly let him borrow thousands of dollars. He's a piece

906
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: of crap and scamming you. You need to warn your wife, Oh,

907
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: he says, I'll be honest. He played us like a

908
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: fiddle there. You were having marital problems at the time,

909
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: so I'd have looked like the bad guy for saying

910
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 4: no to this experimental life saving surgery. He would literally

911
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 4: talk our ears off for hours about all the details

912
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 4: about these surgeries. And my wife still trusted him at

913
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 4: the time, so she gave him the benefit of the doubt. Yeah,

914
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: and it's like, this is your wife's dad, yeah, being

915
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 4: like I need money for experimental surgeries. It's like if

916
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: you're just like no way, right, yeah, it's gonna be

917
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: and your wife is like what, like yeah, and.

918
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 6: You're already having problems, it's like might get you a

919
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 6: little closer to divorce if you play your cards wrong.

920
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was definitely the path of least resistance. Yeah,

921
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 4: I think that was the right move.

922
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

923
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: He asked to borrow the money under the pretense that

924
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: he had money on the way from the US Marshals

925
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 4: and he'd be able to pay us back in a

926
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: matter of weeks. He just didn't want to worry his wife,

927
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 4: which conveniently gave him the pretense to make us not

928
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 4: ask her any questions. Finding out this was a lie

929
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 4: was one of the catalysts behind my wife cutting him out.

930
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: We aren't rich by any means and could have desperately

931
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 4: used that money during the VID and only did it

932
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 4: because he convinced us it was a matter of life

933
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 4: and death and he'd pay us back. When confronted about it,

934
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: he told my wife to her face, I wouldn't have

935
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: asked for that amount of money if I could have

936
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: paid it back that soon. Coming number three, he says,

937
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 4: US Marshal Service has a mandatory retirement age of fifty seven.

938
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 4: If he is retired, he would have check stubs even

939
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: if direct deposited. You can retire as early as fifty

940
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 4: as long as you have twenty five years or at

941
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 4: fifty seven with twenty years, LWRC makes a model based

942
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 4: off of the AR platforms they call NM six. He's

943
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: full of crap op, he says. Whenever question about this,

944
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: he said he was contracted by them and that's why

945
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 4: they were able to pay him with drones. Oh, we

946
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: need to find you some friends. We need to find

947
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 4: you a hobby. We need to get you into, like

948
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 4: a club of some kind.

949
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: Can I get you into like a LARPing group or something? Yeah?

950
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: Or like go play pretend.

951
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: Anytime he needed reasoning for anything, it was I'm a

952
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 4: contractor for the US Marshals. But my understanding is that

953
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: could mean anything. You could be contracted to be a

954
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: janitor cleaning their toilets, and you could say you're contracted

955
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: by the US Marshals. That doesn't mean you have any

956
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: authority with them. A cursory check of Wikipedia said, Okay,

957
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: this is just more okay blah blah blah. Comment number four.

958
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: Sometimes I mvy pathological liars. It must be so fun

959
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 4: you could just dive into your imagination and make stuff

960
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 4: up all the time. Honestly, he should really channel it

961
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 4: into being a show rider. For one of those bad

962
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 4: cable FBI shows. I guess if you cared that much,

963
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: you could run a background check on him. He's going

964
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 4: to continue to lie regardless and say that's just his

965
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 4: cover story, but it might give you and your wife

966
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: some peace of mind. Op says, what are some resources

967
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: I could use for that? I'm considering hiring a private

968
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 4: investigator when we have the disposable income, but I was

969
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: scared he would find out when we hired him. I

970
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: suppose that no longer applies. Now there's an edit. My

971
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 4: wife did a few cursory background checks for like twenty bucks.

972
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 4: But the problem is he uses a million variations of

973
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 4: his name and all that came up was multiple bankruptcies.

974
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: Well well, well it may.

975
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 4: Look like he's bankrupt, but he's actually getting that sweet

976
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: sweet drone money from the US.

977
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: Marshals exactly exactly.

978
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: Because it's not liquid assets, you know, it doesn't get taxed,

979
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 4: So really he's playing the long con.

980
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: Ah. Yeah.

981
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: She's also saying that he committed check fraud in his

982
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 4: ex wife's names so it couldn't be traced back to him,

983
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: which was the reason behind many of his divorces. We

984
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: get a call right now from the US Marshals, and

985
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 4: they're just like, you need to stop talking about this.

986
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: You got it, you gotta quit it, you gotta quit it.

987
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: Very dangerous waters will pay you in drones if you

988
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 4: stop talking about this. We are going to attend Thanksgiving

989
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: with him next week and I'm going to ask him

990
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: a few carefully crafted questions that I got from this thread.

991
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: I'm also going to get in contact with the US

992
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 4: Marshals proper and make an inquiry.

993
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: How can you do that? Stop something?

994
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 4: It's a waste of time. I think it just needs

995
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: to be like, I'm not gonna call the US Marshals,

996
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call the doctor. Like my father in law

997
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 4: has such incredibly deep seated delusions that I worry for him. Yes,

998
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 4: this is a man who owns firearms.

999
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that honestly great.

1000
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 6: Point great might not have those solutionional man with with

1001
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 6: very dangerous military weapons?

1002
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: Yes, actually is it military grade?

1003
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure moss break those are like that will put

1004
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: a large cavern in somebody. Really that was not there before?

1005
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 3: Oh great, great, perfect person.

1006
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm worried. I'm worried about him. I'm gonna

1007
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 4: try and document what happens and report back to this thread.

1008
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: It's just very difficult because he talks for hours and

1009
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: hours and hours with pointless anecdotes, so it's hard to

1010
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: parse actual usable information and not space out, which I

1011
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: suspect is a strategy he relies on. All right, update

1012
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: number two here we go. Sorry, I did an update,

1013
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: but it's not very exciting. We attended Thanksgiving, but it

1014
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: was uneventful because kids were constantly running around distracting everyone,

1015
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: and there wasn't really a moment that allowed us to

1016
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 4: confront him that wouldn't have been forced or awkward. Father

1017
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: in law arrived and wasted no time, acting pitiful and

1018
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: like he was passing away, shuffling around, hunched over, pretending

1019
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 4: to fall over, and hovering in the kitchen and getting

1020
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: in everyone's way while showing them videos of ducks he

1021
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 4: took at the pond. The implication was clearly that he

1022
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: was so lonely that ducks were his only company now

1023
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: and it was our fault. Are we sure this guy's

1024
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 4: not just like, really in need of help? He absolutely is, Okay,

1025
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 4: I think he knew something was up because he didn't

1026
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 4: say a single word either of us the whole night.

1027
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: And by the way, you can listen to every single

1028
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: word we've ever said in our lives by listening to

1029
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: full episodes with stories like this on Spotify, on Apple podcast,

1030
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 4: on iHeartRadio, wherever you listen to podcasts. Just search Okay,

1031
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 4: story time, and you've got the whole world in the

1032
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 4: bone of your hands. There's a little bit of story left.

1033
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: But honestly, like what I mean, if this is your

1034
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: like father in law or your relative, like what are

1035
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 4: you doing here, I think it would.

1036
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 6: Just be the kind of thing where it's just like, okay, okay, Grandpa,

1037
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: you know, oh wow, you're undercover. Really okay, I'll be

1038
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 6: very quiet. I won't tell anyone how I talk to

1039
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 6: children as well. Yeah, you know you just the same

1040
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 6: kind of thing.

1041
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 4: It's one of those things where if you let it

1042
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: get at you and you're like, he's just lying. But

1043
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: it's like if you just let that go and be like, yeah, dude,

1044
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: grandpa's lying about being in the US Marshals again, yeah,

1045
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 4: that just becomes funny.

1046
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 3: Great stories to tell.

1047
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: But again, it's like also the I'm shocked at the

1048
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: lack of any concern whatsoever that he's just so delusional

1049
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: that he's playing into this line this hard because there's

1050
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: a difference between your drive and your truck, and you're like,

1051
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: I'm in the US Marshals, right, and like monologuing for

1052
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: three hours about being in the US Marshals.

1053
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Like I what expect that people are probably

1054
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 6: just angry at the amount of money that has been scammed,

1055
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 6: but like you know, from them to this guy, and

1056
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 6: they're probably just like, I had no more sympathy anymore.

1057
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 3: You gotta just you just have to be punished for this.

1058
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 6: You cannot Yeah, I can't even just play along with

1059
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 6: it anymore because this is like crappy what you're doing.

1060
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: Well, let's finish this story. Towards the end of the night,

1061
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: as we were getting ready to leave, sister in law

1062
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: was close to having a breakdown from the stress, and

1063
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 4: they started making it clear that they wanted him to

1064
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 4: leave too. We loudly offered to take him with us

1065
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: to try and prompt him to which he decided he

1066
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: had to start carving the already pre sliced ham as

1067
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 4: a flimsy pretense to force himself to stay.

1068
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: Gosh so sad, we.

1069
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 4: All literally just stood there in the kitchen while he

1070
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 4: slowly agonizingly carved this ham that didn't need to peak

1071
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: car We didn't want to be rude and yell at him,

1072
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 4: so we finally just left and it turned out he

1073
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 4: stayed there for another hour or so, leaving at eleven pm.

1074
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, So that's really it.

1075
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: We're ninety nine point nine nine percent sure he's a liar.

1076
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: I may call the US Marshals proper just to verify

1077
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 4: and get receipts, but it seems like a foregone conclusion

1078
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 4: at this point. Otherwise we've totally cut him off and

1079
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: the effort of trying to get any more information from

1080
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 4: him is it worth the stress of allowing him in

1081
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: our lives? And that is the end of that story.

1082
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, at the end of the day, there's nothing you

1083
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 6: can do.

1084
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: Just don't give him money. That's the That's all you

1085
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: can do. It's poor grand this poor man, poor father

1086
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: in law.

1087
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: I don't know who I'm like more like kind of

1088
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 4: mystified by like the grandpa who really thinks or like

1089
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 4: I guess the father in law who really thinks that

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Speaker 4: he can get away with the US marshal line or

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Speaker 4: that op is like still a little unsure, Like maybe

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Speaker 4: I'll call the US marshals like you already know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you should have.

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Speaker 4: You should have already known.

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Speaker 3: Trust yourself, man, you're you are correct in this situation.

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Speaker 4: So there's no need to go ha gotcha. Yeah. It's

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Speaker 4: like a hey dad, do you have a do have

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Speaker 4: you had a brain scan recently? Or like do you

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Speaker 4: want to maybe get a CT Yeah, just to make

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Speaker 4: sure there's nothing, you know, festering in your brain or

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Speaker 3: With her arrival.

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Speaker 6: Previous to this, with the global pandemic, work has been

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Speaker 6: partner and I. We with each baby, I have a

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Speaker 6: ritual of deep cleaning, every piece of laundry done, everything

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Speaker 6: just to set the scene, everything felt chaotic and literally

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Speaker 6: three hours after arriving to the hospital, I was in

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Speaker 6: surgery for delivery. Wow, moving fast. We still had no

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Speaker 6: name for our baby. Before they took me back, we

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Speaker 6: began calling family to let them know what was happening.

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Speaker 6: We called my partner's mom twice, waiting twenty minutes between

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Speaker 6: each phone call. It came down to the minute and

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Speaker 6: as they were taking me back, she returned our call,

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Speaker 6: but we sent her a text to letting her know

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Speaker 6: what was happening.

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Speaker 3: She asked to be updated and absolutely that was no issue.

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Speaker 6: When she was born six thirty eight, PM, pictures and

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Speaker 6: stats were sent, and we confessed that we still didn't

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Speaker 6: have a name.

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Speaker 3: She replied her congratulations and all was well famous last words.

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Speaker 6: We finally got back to our room and were obviously

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Speaker 6: up into early hours.

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Speaker 3: As we went back and forth, we chose a name.

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Speaker 6: Exhausted, I updated a Facebook post with her name and

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Speaker 6: to sleep, not thinking much of it. Mind you, I

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Speaker 6: was so tired I didn't even update my own mother.

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Speaker 6: I knew I could call her the next day and

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Speaker 6: it wouldn't be an issue, or so we thought.

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Speaker 4: Oh think again.

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Speaker 6: The next morning, my partner got the following message. I

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Speaker 6: find it sad that on such a momentous event, the

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Speaker 6: birth of your daughter, you can't notify me with her name.

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Speaker 6: Once you both decided on one, I'm only her grandmother.

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Speaker 3: I can't understand what I.

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Speaker 6: Ever did wrong that you fail to, in some small

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Speaker 6: way connect with me ever so often, Gee, I'm only

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Speaker 6: your mother. Ironic when from the past hearing raves of

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Speaker 6: what a wonderful son I raised.

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Speaker 3: He's a special young man. We just love him. Blah

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Speaker 3: blah blah. Who am I again?

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Speaker 6: Oh, just a woman who gave birth to a boy

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Speaker 6: almost thirty six years ago.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't perfect as your mother a parent. He'll discover

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Speaker 3: you aren't either.

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Speaker 6: There was so there was much I gave up to

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Speaker 6: raise a family, and I wouldn't change it for the world,

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Speaker 6: even homeschooling because it became necessary, even when you refuse

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Speaker 6: to leave the vehicle for seventh grade.

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Speaker 3: I laugh at the Ireland.

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Speaker 4: Now growing up seventh grain.

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Speaker 3: This is crazy, what.

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Speaker 6: You never wanting to do the work and then desperately

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Speaker 6: wanting to be homeschooled. Here's the thing I never neglected

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Speaker 6: to keep in touch with my folks. Even when obligations faced.

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Speaker 6: I helped as the need arose. All I know is

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Speaker 6: I stay connected. My prayers will always be with my grandchildren,

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Speaker 6: and that someday as they grow older, they experienced the

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Speaker 6: greatest miracle of all, probably not by their parents, but

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Speaker 6: with hope and prayer, a cousin, an aunt or an uncle. Again,

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Speaker 6: congratulations on the birth of Hannah'm a ray to her siblings,

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Speaker 6: be well, I love you?

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Speaker 3: Is she gone?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 6: Was like a perfectly written monologue for someone that was

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Speaker 6: so insanely dramatic and well thought out.

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Speaker 8: Though that is truly the the Shakespear yeah of insane

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Speaker 8: post birth messages to get from your mom is crazy, Like,

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Speaker 8: who am I just your mother?

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Speaker 4: I wish I could. I wish I could stand in

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Speaker 4: front of her while she was saying all this, and

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Speaker 4: I would just.

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Speaker 3: Go boring boor Yeah.

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Speaker 6: As I watched my partner read this, I could tell

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Speaker 6: he was upset by it. It's not something you want

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Speaker 6: to get after, not even twenty four hours after the

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Speaker 6: birth of your child. When I read it, I was

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Speaker 6: instantly angry. The most upsetting part of her behavior was

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Speaker 6: towards the end. She's extremely religious, so when she went

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Speaker 6: on about our children experiencing the miracle, she was talking

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Speaker 6: about God, probably not by their parents. She said in quotes, Oh,

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Speaker 6: I'd like to mention while we are not married and

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Speaker 6: we don't worship in the same calculated and devoted way

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Speaker 6: she does. She basically called us religious failures to not

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Speaker 6: only our existing children, but the one who has not

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Speaker 6: been on this earth one full rotation. But you know,

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Speaker 6: hopefully someone will save them and teach them how to

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Speaker 6: get to heaven, because to her, their souls were screwed.

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Speaker 6: Marriage is something we plan on down the line, and

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Speaker 6: quite frankly, it's no one's rightful business. So for the

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Speaker 6: first time in ten years i've known her, I spoke up.

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Speaker 3: Mind all of you.

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Speaker 6: I've always respected her, and while I don't understand her

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Speaker 6: one bit, I've never held it against her. She is

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Speaker 6: who she is, and she gave me my partner, so

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Speaker 6: for that, I will always love her. But my respect

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Speaker 6: for her plummeted. And I replied with this with my

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Speaker 6: partners read through and permission. He said he didn't know

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Speaker 6: how to reply, and with his.

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Speaker 3: Blessing, I sent it.

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Speaker 4: Hi, O, here we go.

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Speaker 6: So I understand expressed some feelings towards Ryan and I

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Speaker 6: and I just wanted to reach out. Truthfully, I am

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Speaker 6: upset by your timing and am confused by where you

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Speaker 6: felt wrong to the chaos of me going into labor

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Speaker 6: and getting Hannah's name out to you. It seems you

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Speaker 6: were upset by the fact that we did not update

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Speaker 6: you in the way that you wanted to be updated,

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Speaker 6: and I'm sorry if you felt it was intentional or

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Speaker 6: we were trying to push you away somehow. To be

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Speaker 6: quite honest, my water broke and suddenly I was having

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Speaker 6: surgery with a half packed hospital bag at home. Still

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Speaker 6: I did ask Ryan when we were waiting for me

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Speaker 6: to go back for surgery if he got a hold

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Speaker 6: of you, and both calls were missed. When we tried

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Speaker 6: to call, he did, however, let me know that you

1239
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 6: were texting with him. Pictures and post birth stats were provided.

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Speaker 6: We have been occupied with Hannah's care since as she

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Speaker 6: is considered premature, so we haven't had the time to

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Speaker 6: stop and contact everyone individually as frequently as we had

1243
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 6: wished this time around. In fact, we didn't even have

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Speaker 6: a name ourselves, as each nurse asked what to write

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00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 6: on her little name card throughout the evening. We apologize

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00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 6: that giving you her name right away was overlooked. This

1247
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 6: baby entered the world in a bit of a chaos,

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Speaker 6: and we seem to have failed the expectation we should

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Speaker 6: update you by a certain time. I added her name

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Speaker 6: to my Facebook post to get a mass announcement out.

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Speaker 3: This wasn't done with any intention to upset anyone.

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Speaker 6: I'm not aware of anyone else being upset by this,

1253
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 6: but maybe it brought up disappointment in other places for you,

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Speaker 6: as you've now shared, particularly how we have decided to

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Speaker 6: raise our children and their relationship with religion. It was

1256
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 6: stressful to be called not enough in a time where

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Speaker 6: we are welcoming a new life.

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Speaker 3: Into this world.

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Speaker 6: Right now, I'm going through a hard time with breastfeeding

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Speaker 6: our premature baby who was losing weight, as it's a

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Speaker 6: bit of a rougher start for her than my first two.

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Speaker 6: This feedback by you is unwelcome. We are preoccupied as

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Speaker 6: new parents, and Ryan is an understanding partner, guiding and

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Speaker 6: supporting both of us.

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Speaker 3: I'm amazed by him all over again.

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Speaker 6: It was left It was left field to be somewhat

1267
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 6: taunted about how hopefully my children will be saved by

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00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 6: a relative, as if they have somehow been failed already.

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Speaker 6: Rest assured God loves them, with or without a daily scripture. Clearly,

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Speaker 6: this is an observation you have kept to yourself for

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Speaker 6: a long time. Again, I apologize if everything above seems sharp,

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Speaker 6: but honestly we could have used more positive light from

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00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 6: your direction and reading that was and reading that was

1274
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 6: in general upsetting. On that note, we do love you

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Speaker 6: and hope to set up a time where you can

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00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 6: meet Hannah Marie in person. She is very excited to

1277
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Speaker 6: meet her family, and we will be reaching out once.

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00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 3: We feel settled. We love you, and we'll send more

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Speaker 3: pictures soon boom. How we feel about that?

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Speaker 4: If I could roll my eyes into the back of

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Speaker 4: my head right now, I would. Yeah, that was way

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00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 4: too much. I'm sorry, but it's like you're playing your game. Yeah,

1283
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 4: you've done exactly what she wanted.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just hard when with these like, uh problems,

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00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 6: it's hard when they happen over text like this because

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00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 6: you have to You feel like you have to hit

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00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 6: each point of like what they're saying, girls, it's just

1288
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 6: gonna like exist and build resentment or something like that.

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00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 6: But then to do that, you have to like do

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Speaker 6: an equally long or longer paragraph.

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Speaker 3: To explain yourself. And it's just like it's just gonna

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Speaker 3: be a never ending cycle.

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Speaker 4: The rest of that can be talked out in person

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Speaker 4: if you even want to, but it's like it just

1295
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 4: needed to be like a paragraph, max, and it needed

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Speaker 4: to be like, really disappointed in the way that you've

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00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 4: communicated with us right after the birth of your granddaughter.

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Speaker 4: You don't need to take shots at your son like

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Speaker 4: that on what should be one of the most memorable

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Speaker 4: days of his life. Right again, very disappointed. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: to you about this later.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 3: His mother never replied.

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Speaker 6: Days go by, and I honestly was going to let

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00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 6: it go, except that we would never see eye to

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 6: eye and she would probably read it and just didn't

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00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 6: want to say anything. Well, yesterday, my sister in law,

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00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 6: who was just as upset by this, shared that his

1310
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 6: mother was openly complaining about the whole situation and that

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01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 6: she admittedly never read my message and she didn't plan to.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm angry all over again in all of this.

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01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 6: For all she knew, we didn't call her again because

1314
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 6: maybe my partner's phone died. For all she knew, If anything,

1315
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 6: she could have called us to check on not only

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01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 6: myself but her son. She instead decides to send some

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01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 6: more righteous, self absorbed person messages on top of it,

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01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 6: and won't even receive a reply to it. We are

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 6: planning a dinner over there soon so everyone can meet her.

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 6: Everyone has been quarantining, by the way, and cases are

1321
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 6: very low in our state. And I'm going to be

1322
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 6: completely honest, I don't know how I'm going to conduct myself,

1323
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 6: let alone get through a whole dinner.

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Speaker 3: I'm so upset.

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01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 6: I don't even want her to hold this baby, and

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01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 6: I'm mostly talking out of Ancher And by the way,

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01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 6: we're always over here talking just out of necessity. So

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Speaker 6: you can listen to it on Spotify, how Radio, Apple podcasts. Oh,

1329
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 6: one of your favorite podcasts apps is just search okay storytime.

1330
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 6: You can find full episodes with stories just like that's why.

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01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 4: That's right.

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01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 6: So, yeah, there's a little bit more into this story.

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01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 6: But any final thoughts before we go into it.

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Speaker 4: You're kind of you're playing into the game, which you

1335
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 4: can do. But yeah, this was like a surprise. It

1336
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 4: was at early delivery, Like it was just that they

1337
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 4: didn't know they were going to be at the hospital.

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01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 4: There's all this craziness going on. They didn't even have

1339
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 4: a go bag, Like, yeah, it was. It was very chaotic, right,

1340
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 4: So it's in no way were they intentionally trying to

1341
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 4: exclude or hurt the mother in law. But mother in

1342
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 4: law very much intentionally tried to hurt them. Yeah, So

1343
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 4: regardless of like, well maybe they shouldn't have posted on Facebook,

1344
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 4: they were not the ones being malicious.

1345
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely not.

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01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I don't think that that posting is bad

1347
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,919
Speaker 6: at all. But yeah, like even if it was hurt,

1348
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 6: it's this is a much bigger reaction than I should be,

1349
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 6: but there is a little bit, so let's get on

1350
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 6: into it. My partner does think that this is stemming

1351
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 6: from forgetting to call her on Mother's Day for.

1352
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: The first effing time ever.

1353
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 6: Absolutely, he dropped the ball, but who's perfect And we've

1354
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 6: literally had the most stressful year in general.

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: But I still don't think that that excuses her timing.

1356
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.

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01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 6: I'd also like to point out that I can't even

1358
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 6: remember or count on one hand the amount of times

1359
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 6: that she's reached out to us.

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01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 3: It seems to be the other way.

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01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 6: Around, and not once has she ever called me throughout

1362
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 6: this pregnancy to see how I'm doing. How the heck

1363
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 6: am I going to move forward and get past my

1364
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 6: emotional urge to call her out or do I not

1365
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 6: even bother and swallow my pride?

1366
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 3: And we do have some comments. Should I read those

1367
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 3: right now? Or do you have some comments beforehand?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 4: I mean, the only thing I would say about how

1370
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: to go about like moving through life with this person

1371
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 4: involved in it, just taking away her authority in your head,

1372
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 4: because that's the thing that makes it creates like this

1373
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 4: my mother in law. But it's like just look at

1374
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 4: her as like like an annoy just an annoying kid. Yeah,

1375
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 4: you know, because that's what she's been right now.

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01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 3: That's true.

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01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 4: She's resulting to seventh grand's Yeah, she's trying to slam, dunk,

1378
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 4: bully her own child.

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01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 6: Comment to Number one says, it just wow, I'm so

1380
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 6: angered on your behalf. I've gotten some crazy emails for

1381
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 6: my own parents.

1382
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: But you're right.

1383
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 6: The narcissism of that during that time, during a time

1384
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 6: that you definitely don't need any added stress.

1385
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 3: That takes the cake.

1386
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 6: Is your partner outraged, all of the self righteousness regarding religion,

1387
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 6: the holding his seventh grade self against him. It sounds

1388
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 6: like she is a toxic force in your life. I

1389
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 6: would seriously consider cutting her out of your family. She

1390
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 6: should realize what is at stake when berating you for

1391
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 6: not telling her immediately the granddaughter's name. Does she not

1392
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 6: realize that you guys control access to her grandkids? Would

1393
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 6: he ever consider cutting her out? Nope, her responds, I

1394
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 6: could cry thank you for this validation. I was like

1395
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 6: hashtag sweaty palms posting this because I feel insecure about

1396
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 6: the whole situation. I've known this woman for ten years

1397
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 6: and not once has she ever lashed out like this,

1398
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 6: so I felt like I was breaking down a while

1399
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 6: doing so. A lot of people have said that I'm

1400
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 6: overly nice in my response to her, But imagine having

1401
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 6: no issues with someone on a confrontational level and you

1402
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 6: suddenly had to rise to the occasion. Interacting with her

1403
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 6: in general can be eggshells. She's very opinionated, she is

1404
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 6: very isolated, and a lot of the family on his

1405
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 6: side aren't extremely close with her.

1406
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 3: From what I understand as a distant outsider.

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01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 6: Her daughter, my partner's only sibling, has a very strained

1408
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 6: relationship with her. His mom is absolutely included in the family,

1409
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 6: but half the time there's unnecessary tension. I think my

1410
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 6: partner isn't surprised by it, and while that isn't necessary outraged,

1411
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 6: they aren't surprised either when I cut her off, that's

1412
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 6: a loaded question. She has a lot of illnesses, so

1413
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 6: she kind of gets a free pass to a point.

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01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: We don't see her a lot.

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 6: I really was hoping that my message would at least

1416
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 6: be read, but apparently she gets the final say, and

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01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 6: that's that, and that is that for the whole story.

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 4: You can't get rid of her authority you're yeah, you're

1419
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 4: independent adults. I assume you don't rely on this woman

1420
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 4: for support or anything. So just start rejecting her sense

1421
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 4: of authority.

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01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1423
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1424
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 6: If Riley was here, he would say to just call

1425
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 6: her and just just talk instead of having problems over text.

1426
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 6: Just call It's true and because because yeah, that's exactly

1427
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 6: what happens, that you give them the opportunity to have

1428
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 6: the last laugh just like that, and or to just

1429
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 6: not say anything at all, and then it's like, okay, great,

1430
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 6: now that's still a problem and nothing that's been resolved.

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Speaker 3: Wonderful