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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, everybody. We are so close to the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, just a couple of days away. Hey, be

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Speaker 2: the first round of the Draft this Thursday, beginning at

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Speaker 2: They'll have pick by pick predictions and reactions to every

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Speaker 2: first round pick. That's Thursday at eight pm Eastern throughout

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Speaker 2: Express Pros. Welcome in, everybody, you know, We'll start with you.

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Speaker 2: I loo is fired up today. You can tell oh Joy, Yes,

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Speaker 2: we're raring to go over here. Remember when Chris Berman,

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Speaker 2: he would say this from time to time when he

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Speaker 2: was doing the NFL highlights. He would say, very into testing,

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Speaker 2: he would say that I just popped into my head

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Speaker 2: this morning where I like that I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: NFL drafts right around the corner, and I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: the NBA playoffs that are set to begin now that

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Speaker 2: the field is already We'll start with the NFL draft.

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Speaker 2: If you're just looking at very interesting what are you

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Speaker 2: most interested in? If it's one particular player, where he's going,

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Speaker 2: when he goes, if it's one particular team and you're

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Speaker 2: honing in on Thursday, first round of the draft, is

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Speaker 2: it a player, is it a team that has you

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Speaker 2: most interested in Draft night?

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Speaker 1: Well, these quarterbacks, Like we're at that point now where

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Speaker 1: this center, like the spotlight is fixated on this little

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Speaker 1: I don't want to call it the Hunger Games, but

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Speaker 1: it kind of felt like the Hunger Games this week

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Speaker 1: in Washington. Adam Peters is he kind of knows the

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Speaker 1: draft starts with him, and he's taking advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: I think the move that they pulled, which we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about at some point, i'm sure on the show,

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Speaker 1: because I'm very curious to get Rich's thoughts on from

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Speaker 1: the player perspective on this, had they brought in all

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and kind of had them all in a

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Speaker 1: stew together in a pot, because I think I think

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Speaker 1: what Adam was trying to do was trying to flesh

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Speaker 1: out some maybe maybe some questions, some concerns about any

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Speaker 1: of them with when it comes to character and competitiveness

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Speaker 1: and just you know how they handle unique situations. If

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Speaker 1: you recall, this was a very rudimentary example of this,

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Speaker 1: but Nick Sirianni, remember when he did like rock paper

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Speaker 1: Scissor with all the kids that they came in. Right now,

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Speaker 1: this is a very different version of that. This is

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Speaker 1: like four dimensional rock paper Scissor, where you brought in

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Speaker 1: four different guys and they're all I think they were

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Speaker 1: hanging out at Top Golf. I'm sure they did like

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Speaker 1: team bonding, but that was met with some pushback. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's one of those situations where

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Speaker 1: they already knew they were gonna take Daniels and they

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Speaker 1: just wanted to see how he was going to respond,

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Speaker 1: kind of like in Draft Day when they remember when

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Speaker 1: bill or the back of the playbook to see who

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Speaker 1: trying to put these kids in awkwards unique different situations

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Speaker 1: to see how they would react, because let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: it's Jade, and Daniels has been told for the last

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Speaker 1: five years how awesome he is. Now he's in the

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Speaker 1: NFL where things are gonna get really tough, and I

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Speaker 1: think that was really interesting that Washington did that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly why. I'd be very curious to hear

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Speaker 1: Adam Peters thoughts about it after the process. He's obviously

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Speaker 1: not gonna tell us anything now. But to me, how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm looking at one particular player, the Jaden

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Speaker 2: So I can't put that at the top of my

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Speaker 2: most interesting storyline to me involves a guy I'm not

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Speaker 2: very interested in, which is strange. It would be JJ

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Speaker 2: Is it gonna be the Vikings? The Broncos have to

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Speaker 2: and there have been stories where they're gonna start dangling

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Speaker 2: what happens with JJ McCarthy, who's the team that trades

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Speaker 2: Because Jim Harbaugh when he's at Michigan, he's like, you

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Speaker 2: But that to me is the storyline where who gets

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Speaker 2: McCarthy who showed some good stuff but wasn't asked to

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to find out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Minnesota makes the most sense. I just

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Speaker 1: don't know how the sequence is going to play out,

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Speaker 1: Like there's a chance here. And I asked a bookmaker

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Speaker 1: yet because I asked him last night to be fair,

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Speaker 1: differently about it, because a trade in the top five

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Speaker 1: being in the top three, but likely the fourth quarterback

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Speaker 1: So it kind of creates this like back and forth,

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Speaker 1: because of how many quarterbacks are near the top of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something that Jim Harbaugh was talking about now

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Speaker 2: that he's with the Chargers. He's like, look, if quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Right, probably the number one guy on a lot of boards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, sure, So they're in an interesting spot. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But if you look at the non quarterback teams at four,

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Speaker 2: it's Arizona at five, it's the Chargers who makes a

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Speaker 2: Look at both teams. The Chargers were used to them

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Speaker 2: having way more talent than the Cardinals the last handful

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Speaker 2: they've been a candidate all along to trade down if

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Speaker 2: what plenty of this throughout the show here, Jared, one

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Speaker 2: playoff series that you have circled again, going back to

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Speaker 2: Chris Berman in very intoesting, Huh, which series are you

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Speaker 2: most interested in here in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Homer Nicks obviously, Yeah, but that's more. That's more for show.

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Speaker 1: I think the Pacers box is absolutely fascinating. I think

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Speaker 1: lou just how good Luca's been. But on the other side,

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Speaker 1: I don't know Kauhi's status, like I just I can't

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Speaker 1: That's always the issue with the Clippers. But I'll be honest, Luca,

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Speaker 1: I'm just assuming that they will face the Nuggets in

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Speaker 1: the second round. Let's uh, sorry for the la people,

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Speaker 1: Bucks can turn it on the series price, Like if

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Speaker 1: you were gonna tell me, yeah, it's Milwaukee and Indiana

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Speaker 1: in the first round, Brian, Milwaukee's got home court. Indiana

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Speaker 1: is the favorite.

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Speaker 2: You're like what yeah, like what like what is what.

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Speaker 1: Planet are we on here? And it's obviously the injury stuff,

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Speaker 1: but I'm interested. You know, we've kind of seen Water

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Speaker 1: I really like Phoenix in that series. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: Do they have the ability to make it through sixteen

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Speaker 2: I have horrible Bradley Beal timing. That's my betting comment

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Speaker 1: He averaged thirty and five playoff games in twenty one. Like,

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Speaker 2: so real intrigue not intrigue When it comes to the

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Speaker 2: a little bit, Jared. It goes back to Washington brought

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's being too extensive, if you will. And Jaden

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Speaker 2: the raid as they say, Antonio Pierce says, Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Let let's say Peters as Daniels as the guy on

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Speaker 1: his board, and he's like, all right, let's bring these

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Speaker 1: kids in. Let's see how Daniels handles it. And he

436
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Speaker 1: didn't handle it well. Yeah, is that enough for you

437
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Speaker 1: to pass? Because what I think Daniels is significantly higher

438
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Speaker 1: on the board than may Is and McCarthy on Washington's board.

439
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Speaker 1: But maybe they just don't like this one little thing.

440
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Speaker 1: But is this one it's like a red flag or

441
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Speaker 1: a deal breaker? Like is this a deal breaker for Washington?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I wouldn't be shocked if

443
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Speaker 1: it is.

444
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Speaker 2: It's funny. It's it goes back to dating, it always does.

445
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Speaker 2: I Uh, I went on this date with this girl,

446
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Speaker 2: and uh, It was literally one of the first things

447
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Speaker 2: we said to each other. And I don't know how

448
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Speaker 2: we got onto this subject. I probably mentioned something about

449
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Speaker 2: sports and she just looked at me and she goes,

450
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Speaker 2: I think sports are stupid, and I was just like,

451
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Speaker 2: this will never work. Deal You know that that was

452
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Speaker 2: a deal breaker, right, That wasn't a I could still

453
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Speaker 2: be all right, Oh she's a vegetarian. That's not I deal.

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Speaker 2: But I could deal with it, you know. But uh yeah,

455
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Speaker 2: if you're like sports are stupid, I'm like this, your

456
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Speaker 2: job is dumb. Nice to meet you, our man Rich

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Speaker 2: rod Berger with you know, we were we were comparing

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Speaker 2: notes about what might be happening this morning with you

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Speaker 2: over there.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well it's it's the standard issue wake up

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Speaker 6: with no power in the house situation over here.

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Speaker 3: Which is like it's always something with this show. Huh yeah,

463
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Speaker 3: it's cursed.

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Speaker 6: But talking about Jaden Daniel, when I think about what

465
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Speaker 6: you guys were just discussing and draft prospects in general,

466
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Speaker 6: I think when things go well, your assumption is, oh

467
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Speaker 6: my gosh, this team loves me, They're going to take me.

468
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Speaker 6: I'm going to be name it a Las Vegas Raider.

469
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Speaker 6: I'm going to be a Minnesota Viking and then guess what.

470
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Speaker 6: Somebody else drafts you and you oftentimes don't see it coming.

471
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Speaker 6: I've told this story here before, but I was convinced

472
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Speaker 6: if there was one team that there's no chance they

473
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Speaker 6: were going to take me in the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: It was the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 6: And the reason was because they were asking about my

476
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Speaker 6: past and they were digging really deep and they knew stuff,

477
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Speaker 6: and so I started being very honest with them, because

478
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm a pretty honest guy. And the stories

479
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Speaker 6: that I was telling, the one scout who came down

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Speaker 6: and actually visited Penn State, I was like, oh, they

481
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Speaker 6: he knew everything and he heard everything. I was like,

482
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Speaker 6: so there's no chance that the New England Patriots take me.

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Speaker 6: Two funny things about that story. One, they ended up

484
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Speaker 6: drafting me in the fourth round, so that was completely

485
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Speaker 6: shocking and surprising. Two, the scout who came down to

486
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Speaker 6: visit with me was Brian Ferentz. He was Kirk Farrens's son.

487
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Speaker 6: He was the assistant. He was an offensive assistant. He

488
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Speaker 6: then graduated during my time with the Patriots to their

489
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Speaker 6: tight end coach. During my time in New England it was,

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Speaker 6: and then obviously moved on to become most recently the

491
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Speaker 6: offensive coordinator with Iowa, and he's no longer.

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Speaker 3: Doing that bad in battled. Yeah, the in battled. Long,

493
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Speaker 3: long story short.

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Speaker 6: What's interesting about the NFL Draft is oftentimes when you

495
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Speaker 6: think something is going really, really poorly leading up to

496
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Speaker 6: the draft, sometimes you're misreading the whole situation.

497
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Speaker 1: Yep.

498
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you have.

499
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Speaker 6: A complete, a completely poor read on a team's interest

500
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Speaker 6: level in you or in what they were trying to

501
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Speaker 6: get out of the interview process in the first place.

502
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Speaker 6: So these situations like the one that Jayden Daniels experienced

503
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Speaker 6: or many other prospects, because I promise you there's a

504
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Speaker 6: lot of guys who are going you know what, one

505
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Speaker 6: team I know I'm not getting drafted by, it's the

506
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Speaker 6: Houston Texans, And then all of a sudden on draft

507
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Speaker 6: Day they're getting a call from you know, from from

508
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Speaker 6: Nick Kissario, going.

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Speaker 3: Well, how the hell did we get here? But I

510
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Speaker 3: promise you stuff like that happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, when you were a kid on

512
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Speaker 2: the playground and there was one of the boys that

513
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Speaker 2: would kind of like not bully the girl, but kind

514
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Speaker 2: of just like shove her a little bit or do

515
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Speaker 2: things like that, and the girls thinking, man, this guy

516
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Speaker 2: hates me, and it's like, yeah, no, no, no, he

517
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Speaker 2: actually likes you. I think those boys grow up to

518
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Speaker 2: be an NFL front offices, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Might be accurate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we got your perspective on this, Rich because

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Speaker 1: I honestly I've been asking a lot of the former

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Speaker 1: players in my circle about the whole you know, Hunger

524
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Speaker 1: Games quarterback thing that Adam Peters was running this week,

525
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Speaker 1: and I agree, I do think they really like Daniels

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Speaker 1: and I think this is just the stress test just

527
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Speaker 1: to see, just to see how he handles it. Now

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Speaker 1: he hasn't handled it great, but that doesn't mean they're

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Speaker 1: not going to pick him. Still.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have a stress test as well, and

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Speaker 2: this guy passes with flying colors every single time. Now,

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Speaker 2: if I know Isaac lowin fraud, he's going to act

533
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Speaker 2: like the stress is getting to him and he's going

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Speaker 2: to intentionally sabotage the beginning of this update for traumatic effect.

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Speaker 2: But let me assure.

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Speaker 1: You know me so well.

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Speaker 2: He passes the stress test with the flag colors every

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Speaker 2: time here he is I low with the Lakers.

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Speaker 7: Turn off, turn off the track bill, turn it off. Yep,

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Speaker 7: just got to catch my breath here.

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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 7: Yes, memories of those stress tests when you're trying to

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Speaker 7: impress everyone, but you're dying inside. The New Orleans Pelicans

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Speaker 7: are doing the opposite. They are flourishing. They defeated the

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Speaker 7: sac of it O Kings last night in the play

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Speaker 7: in Tournament. What oh five to ninety eight find Brandon

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Speaker 7: Ingram's twenty four points, six rebounds, six assists, and fellas.

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Speaker 7: That leads to what his hands down the best SoundBite

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Speaker 7: of twenty twenty four to date, because after this game,

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Speaker 7: New Orleans forward Larry Nance Junior was asked about the Pelicans'

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Speaker 7: chances against one seed Oklahoma City in the opening round.

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Speaker 1: Respectfully, I'm uh, I'm betting on the pills.

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Speaker 3: I'm not betting, No Johnson, I'm not a betting I'm

554
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Speaker 3: not betting on anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't own a betting app none of that.

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Speaker 3: No, not.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 7: It is your leader in the clubhouse for best SoundBite

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Speaker 7: of twenty twenty four. Earlier on Friday night, the Miami

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Speaker 7: Heat of either the Chicago Bulls one to twelve to

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Speaker 7: ninety one Tyler Hero twenty four points, ten rebounds, nine assists,

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Speaker 7: so Miami gets the eight seed in the East. They

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Speaker 7: will face one seed Boston in the first round. The

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Speaker 7: playoffs tip off today at one pm Eastern in Cleveland

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Speaker 7: with Game one between the Cavaliers and the Orlando Magic.

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Speaker 7: While in Major League Baseball on Friday night, the New

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Speaker 7: York Mets beat the Dodgers in LA nine to four

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Speaker 7: for a five game winning streak, and the Arizona Diamondbacks

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Speaker 7: one at San Francisco seventeen to one, tying a franchise

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Speaker 7: record with twenty two hits. And while Larry Nance Junior

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Speaker 7: at the best sound bite to date in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 7: Arizona might have the best name of a player in

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty four. Arizona's Blaze Alexander on fire last night,

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Speaker 7: three for five, all of them extra base hits with

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Speaker 7: five RBI. Fellas, I'm gonna hop back on the treadmill

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Speaker 7: back to you that it is a solid.

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Speaker 2: Name, Blaze Alexando.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very nice.

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Speaker 2: We'll dive into this a little bit more later in

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Speaker 2: the show, but just to dip our beacon the waters

589
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Speaker 2: over here. Johntay Porter banned for life because of gambling

590
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Speaker 2: on NBA games, fixing his prop bets by communication with gamblers. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know you might want to take the under tonight. Yeah,

592
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Speaker 2: you know, I got a stomach issue. Wink wink, you know,

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Speaker 2: And so he gets banned for life. He's the brother

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Speaker 2: of Michael Porter Junior, who plays for the Denver Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: Now the other thing is this is crazy. John Tey

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Speaker 2: Porter's banned for life. It looks like small potatoes now

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Speaker 2: compared to his other brothers. So Coben Porter. He's been

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Speaker 2: sentenced to six years in jail. So he was driving

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Speaker 2: drunk last year gotten a crash killed a woman in Colorado,

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Speaker 2: and so he's been sentenced to six years in prison.

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Speaker 2: So it has been a hell of a week for

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Speaker 2: the Porter family over there, and you know, I know

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Speaker 2: it's a sports show and we'll look at the sports side,

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Speaker 2: but for a minute, like think of the family of

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Speaker 2: the victim who's just driving an uber gets into a wreck,

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Speaker 2: killed by a drunk driver. My heart goes out to

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Speaker 2: her family. But again, it's a sports show. If you

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Speaker 2: look at the sports side of this, what does Michael

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Speaker 2: Porter Junior look like for the Nuggets here at the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the series against the Lakers. One of his

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Speaker 2: brother's band for life that looks like nothing. Now that

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Speaker 2: his other brother is thrown in jail for six years

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Speaker 2: for killing someone after driving drunk, I'm really curious to

614
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Speaker 2: see what Michael Porter Junior looks like at the beginning

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Speaker 2: of the series against the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's actually a perspective that when I was

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Speaker 6: reading this story, and obviously Coben, I saw the story

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Speaker 6: along with what I was reading about Johntay and I'm

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Speaker 6: my gosh, this is just insane. But I never I

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Speaker 6: never made the leap back to Michael Porter Junior thinking, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I wonder what he's going through now, because like you said,

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Speaker 6: there's so many aspects of this, like, how and why

624
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Speaker 6: did Johnte get involved in the gambling or sports betting

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Speaker 6: aspect of this while he was flourishing and having an

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Speaker 6: NBA career, Like why was that even a part of

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Speaker 6: the mental mathematics? And then Coben making a horrible decision

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Speaker 6: that obviously impacts others.

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Speaker 3: More deeply than we could ever imagine.

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Speaker 6: I've never experienced something well specifically like that, and that's

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Speaker 6: a tragedy. But yeah, now that you spin it back

632
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Speaker 6: toward all of the angles that this impacts, I mean,

633
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Speaker 6: somehow all of this can have an impact on the

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Speaker 6: Denver Nuggets in their run, especially early on in the

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Speaker 6: postseason against Lebron who you know, whether they end up

636
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Speaker 6: the Lakers winning this series or not, they're gonna give

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Speaker 6: the Nuggets a hell of a time. I mean, shoot,

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Speaker 6: that was the story of the sweep in the finals

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Speaker 6: last year, or in the Western Conference Finals, even though

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Speaker 6: the Nuggets won.

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Speaker 3: We all realize the Lakers could have won those games.

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Speaker 6: It was just a matter of not getting over the

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Speaker 6: hump and actually getting the w's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't I didn't think about how MBJ was

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Speaker 1: going to handle this. I think the Nuggets will still

646
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Speaker 1: be f and a lot of times in these situations,

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Speaker 1: Rich can probably attest to this. Things are happening off

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Speaker 1: the field, off the court, and the game is like

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Speaker 1: the only place you feel normal and that you know,

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Speaker 1: you hope that's what happens for for MPJ because it's

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00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: just you know, you know, you don't want outside things

652
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: to be able to affect what your paycheck is. The

653
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: the Jonte Porter stuff is absolutely bananas. But the take

654
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: that I'm hearing that's really wrong here is well, gambling,

655
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: this is the problem. This is why we can't have

656
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: legalized gambling. It's actually the opposite. We wouldn't have even

657
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: learned about this if it wasn't for the safeguards that

658
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: are put in place by legalized gambling, because the suspicious

659
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: bets that Porter was making were flagged by the companies

660
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: that monitor legalized gambling. So it's like I hate the

661
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: whole Well, there's another gambling start. Gotta get rid of gambling,

662
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: one person and how a dui, So we have to

663
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: get rid of alcohol, like it just it bugs me

664
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: when we hear these stories and we blame gambling for this,

665
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: Like this is not gambling's fault. This is one guy

666
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: that broke the rules. Doesn't matter what the rule is.

667
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: There's rules, people break them, you get punished. It doesn't

668
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: matter what the rule is. You don't get rid of

669
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: whatever he broke because it exists. You have to have

670
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: a system in place to monitor and legalize this stuff,

671
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: and we do and the system worked, and it's unfortunate

672
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: that this quarter guy did what he did. But the

673
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: thing that bugs me is how it becomes a referendum

674
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: on gambling, and that is where we need to separate

675
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: these stories.

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Speaker 2: No, well said, that's Jared Smith FSR Betting analyst Rich Ornberger,

677
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: Penn State, All American with us. I'm Brian No coming

678
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: up next. We got a tweet from David s that says,

679
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: I need a winning parleg.

680
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, David barking, barking up the wrong tree. But

681
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: we're not a great record with these he needs.

682
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see what Jared has cooked up here

683
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: right around the corner, it is Fox Sports Saturday, right

684
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday,

685
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. You can always go

686
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: for a parlay. I feel like right around this time,

687
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: let's dive into this.

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00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 3: Check this out.

689
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Speaker 2: Parlay letter Okay, Jared, you've been in the lab cooking

690
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: one up our guy, David S. He needs a winning

691
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: parlay here, do you have one for David S?

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00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Shout out David S. So I always say, if you're

693
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: asking for a winning parlay, you probably have other needs

694
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: that need attended to. I would focus on those first,

695
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: and maybe this is just the afterthought, because don't put

696
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: all your eggs in this basket.

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00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this before. These parlays are fun. They're

699
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: more entertainment than they are money making schemes. But let's

700
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: focus on this Suns game today because I'll be honest,

701
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: I really do think the Bradley Beal line is undervalued.

702
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: So we're gonna jack up Bradley Beal point his actual

703
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: line seventeen and a half, we're gonna jack it up

704
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: to nineteen and a half. So we need Bradley Bealle

705
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: to reach twenty points in this game. We also need

706
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: him to make three threes in this game. The good

707
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: news is he just did that double in the last game.

708
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: He went six for six from three and I had

709
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: thirty six points. So I feel confident that he's gonna

710
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: get twenty and three here. And then we just need

711
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: the Suns to win the game. And again, I think

712
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Speaker 1: if Bradley Beald gets twenty plus and is feeling it

713
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: from d I think that obviously increases Phoenix's chances of

714
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: winning this game on the road today against Minnesota. They

715
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: are it's kind of going off as a pick them,

716
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: but I think Minnesota might actually close as a slight

717
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: favorite here as we've kind of seen these odds tip

718
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: back and forth early action on Phoenix, but now Minnesota, Yeah,

719
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: about a one and a half point favorite. So Phoenix

720
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: is technically the underdog here, but I think they are

721
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: the better team, right. They're favored in the series, and

722
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: I always look at that if you're favored in the series,

723
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: but you're an underdog in game one, you might be

724
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: undervalued in Game one because quickly to use the win

725
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Speaker 1: Game one go on to win the series. So we

726
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Speaker 1: will put Bradley Beal to reach twenty points, Bradley Beal

727
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: to make at least three three pointers, and the Suns

728
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: to win the game plus four twenty five not the

729
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: worst odds for a three team SGP. As we're kind

730
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: of correlating these legs on the Phoenix side of the

731
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: of the equation.

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00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: Here, right, so a tick over four to one odds.

733
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Speaker 6: What's your thought process on same game parlays in general?

734
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 6: Is it all based on your feel for the game,

735
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 6: or does it matter it's happening in the same game,

736
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 6: I guess is the question I'm asking you? Or is

737
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 6: it something that just happened to occur this time around.

738
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: I think they're much more feel For example, in the playoffs,

739
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that the prop market

740
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: is not right in the first round. And here's why.

741
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: How often and again, Brian, you watch the league a

742
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: lot more than me, so you have the context here.

743
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: The minutes that these props.

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00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: So the props are created by an offshore MGM doesn't

745
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: have like some dude in a lab somewhere cooking every

746
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: prop like they get created by an offshore kind of

747
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: algorithm that you know company that does this and they

748
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: feed the props to MGM every day. Well, that algorithm

749
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: is based off of the regular season numbers. I think

750
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: in the playoffs the rotations tighten up and the star

751
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: players play more minutes than they do in the regular season.

752
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: That means the prop numbers are basing the denominator of

753
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: what they're baking the numbers off of which is minutes

754
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: played off of a number that might be a little soft.

755
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: So I think that's where the star players might have

756
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: a little more value in the prop market when the

757
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: regular season ends and when the postseason begins. Does that

758
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: make sense?

759
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense, Jared. This is gonna sound like

760
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm hating on your same game Parlay. I'm really not.

761
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: This is how I would explain it. Last week, true story,

762
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: I set my alarm clock wrong for this Saturday show.

763
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: I set it an hour later. I said it like

764
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: it's starts at eight am Central time. I set my

765
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: alarm clock for like eight twenty seven or some weird

766
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: number because I can't be normal, right, And I woke

767
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: up with no alarm clock. Not a good sign, not

768
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: a good sign. And I look at my phone, I'm like,

769
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: what time is it? And there was time to get

770
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Speaker 2: on the show. That's how I feel when I'm about

771
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: to bet on Bradley Beal. He's a really good player.

772
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: I've just gotten screwed so many times, so I'm palling

773
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: for you. I'm not saying it right, Yeah, all right,

774
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: coming up next? Creepy, unprofessional? Was it anything more than that. Okay,

775
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: So this did not work out whatsoever. There's a columnist

776
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, Greg Doyle, and he was talking to Caitlin Clark.

777
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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark drafted by the Indiana Fever over there the WNBA,

778
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: and so it's the introductory press conference and Greg Doyle

779
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: he makes the heart gesture. You know how, Caitlin Clark

780
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: does that with her hands sometimes on the court. It's

781
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: kind of like the Taylor Swift thing where you make

782
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: a heart with your hands. And so that's what Greg

783
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: Doyle did to Caitlin Clark. And then he made a joke.

784
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: It did not land well at all. This was the exchange. Hi, Caitlin,

785
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: Greg Doyle, indie star, real quick, let me do this.

786
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 3: You like you like that?

787
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: I like that you're here like I do that in

788
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: my family after every game. So okay, well we'll.

789
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 3: Start doing it to me and we'll get along just fine.

790
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: So okay, so, uh, he's been getting raked over the

791
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: coals for this man. And I just want to say this.

792
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: You guys might disagree. It was a creepy comment. There's

793
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 2: no doubt it was unprofessional, but it wasn't any freaking

794
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: thing more than that I have been reading. I've been here.

795
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: This is a disgrace, this is sex. This we're just

796
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: off and running. Look, he's not Chris Rock, He's not

797
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: a stand up comic. Okay, he tried to deliver a

798
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: one liner shocker, not a specialty. But to make it

799
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: like he's hitting on her and this is it was unprofessional,

800
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: uncalled for. But to make it out to be more

801
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: than that, I just completely disagree with. What do you

802
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: guys think about this?

803
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 6: Well, I think funny is hard. That's a hard plane

804
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 6: to land. I think some people are naturally funny, and

805
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 6: I think some people when they try to tell jokes,

806
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 6: it's hit or miss, and as a result of that,

807
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 6: look humor. Part of the reason why humor makes you laugh,

808
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 6: which is something completely involuntary that you're not really in

809
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 6: control of, is because you're caught off guard, like you

810
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 6: didn't see something coming. That's they call it the turn

811
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Speaker 6: in the joke or a punchline. And then a punchline

812
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 6: could get funnier because you can you can add little

813
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 6: tags after the fact where all of a sudden, like wow,

814
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Speaker 6: there was still more more fun and surprised to be

815
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 6: unearthed with that one joke that it can be a

816
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 6: continuation now and then. Like I love stand up comedy.

817
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 6: I think funny people are some of the most intelligent people.

818
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: And with Greg Doyle, I think he's probably surrounded by

819
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 6: people who like him, read his stuff, and have told

820
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 6: him in the past that he's funny. And that's what

821
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 6: happens when somebody's told they're funny, and they grow some

822
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 6: confidence around that, they'll put themselves in a situation where

823
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 6: maybe maybe humor isn't you know, necessary. Like, honestly, if

824
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 6: Greg Doyle just asked a question, whatever question he arrived

825
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 6: at and I don't even know, it could have been

826
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Speaker 6: the best question asked during this press conference, everything would

827
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 6: have been fine. He didn't necessarily need to break the ice.

828
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Speaker 6: But I think he was trying to make himself more

829
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 6: memorable because he works in Indie. He's gonna be covering

830
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 6: this team a lot. I would imagine Caitlin Clark is

831
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Speaker 6: a new star in town, arguably one of the brightest

832
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 6: stars shining in town right now. So all of those

833
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 6: things you throw him into a bin and you start

834
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 6: mixing it up and you realize, oh, that's the reason

835
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Speaker 6: why he did what he did. I tend to agree

836
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Speaker 6: with what you said, though, Brian, I don't think this

837
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Speaker 6: was I don't think his goal was to be, you know,

838
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Speaker 6: a creepy ogler, you know what I mean. Like, I

839
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 6: don't think his goal was, you know, to put her

840
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 6: in a situation where she felt uncomfortable, or to make

841
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Speaker 6: it sound or come off as creepy as it did.

842
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 6: But it did, and it was unfortunate. And not only

843
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 6: has he apologized multiple times, he's actually written a column

844
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Speaker 6: that Indie Star has published with offering an apology as

845
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Speaker 6: well and saying that he's part of a much larger

846
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Speaker 6: problem that's going on. Whether or not he one hundred

847
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 6: percent believes that or not, he certainly did put those

848
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 6: words into writ into action. And I think this story

849
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 6: is probably going to go away pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: It will. It's an embarrassing moment. We've all done it.

851
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: When you work in our business, you put your foot

852
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: in your mouth a lot because it's your job to talk.

853
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: It's the cost of doing business. Not everything you say

854
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: is going to land one hundred percent. Look at these

855
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: NBA players. How many nights do they go zero for

856
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: ten from the floor. It happens like you have a

857
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: bad game. Every once in a while, it's happened to me,

858
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: like I've said things in front of women like I

859
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: don't really like that too much, and that's okay. You

860
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: just you know, that's what boundaries are for. The problem

861
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: that I had with this was the column, because he

862
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: monetized it afterwards, like that was the issue that I

863
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: took with it, was writing a column to draw more

864
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: attention to it, and then to get people to click

865
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: on your website and your story like you were part

866
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: of the problem. It was a bad, weird situation. I've

867
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: been told in the past, when you make a fool

868
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: of yourself in some capacity, the worst thing you could

869
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 1: possibly do is call attention to it more. I would

870
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: have had a personal apology that I might be written

871
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: and sent to Caitlin, but I don't think I would

872
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: have made it as public as he did. And I

873
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: think that's where I question his motive. Where after the fact,

874
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: after it happened, you're embarrassed, you're angry, or in denial, whatever,

875
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: say that. Express that to Caitlyn. Hey, I'm messed up.

876
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I hope this doesn't impact our professional relationship

877
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: going forward. Blah blah blah, blah blah, and then move

878
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: on and don't write an article that gets published and

879
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: thousands of people click on it and they continue to

880
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: roll the ball down the hill. So he kind it

881
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: was like a you know, a self fulfilling prophecy in

882
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: a sense where he did it and then he called

883
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: more attention to it by you know, blasting it out

884
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: to all of his followers more again, And if he

885
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: wanted it to go away, he would have just ignored it.

886
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: So it was a weird situation I've read about. I

887
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: don't know him personally. I'm sure he's a nice guy,

888
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: but it seems like he kind of puts his foot

889
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: in his mouth often based on what I've read about him.

890
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: So it's a it was a weird situation to say

891
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: the least.

892
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think it's hard to know exactly where

893
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: someone's what someone's motives are sure, because it can look

894
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: like okay, it's this, when it's it's really this, you

895
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: know where I think Greg Doyle, like you said, Rich,

896
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: we've done this in radio interviews all the time. I

897
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: haven't made a creepy comment like this, I don't believe,

898
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: but we try to break the ice. Yeah, you know,

899
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: if we've got a guest on a lot of times,

900
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: it's great to get him laughing at first. And I

901
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: think that's what Greg Doyle was trying to do. I

902
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: don't think he was trying to creep on Caitlin Clark.

903
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: I think he's just trying to break the ice. Yeah,

904
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: and he did it in a clumsy way that didn't

905
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 2: work at all. And then when that happened, I don't

906
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: know that he was trying to monetize everything. I think

907
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: he felt bad. I think he felt bad that he

908
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: just stepped in it and he's like, oh shoot, I

909
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: want to try to make this better. And you could

910
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: argue whether that happened or not, but that's what I

911
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: thought the motive was. Who knows. The bottom line is

912
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: who knows. I'm just saying that sometimes it's hard to

913
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 2: decipher what the true motive is. I think that we've

914
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: all gotten our magnifying classes out agreed on this one,

915
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: and it's just like, what, let's dissect. It was a

916
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: dumb joke, it didn't land, it was unprofessional. I just

917
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: don't think it rises to any more than just that.

918
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I think that even like, look

919
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 6: what we're doing we're talking about it. It's she's an

920
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 6: interesting person, something interesting happened to her, and I think

921
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 6: had that joke really landed, and you know, who knows,

922
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 6: maybe maybe it would have been a joke that led

923
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 6: to a heartfelt story about Caitlin's love and you know,

924
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 6: admiration for her parents or her father or the you know,

925
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 6: her upbringing, and that's what led her to this incredible

926
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 6: moment being taken with the first overall draft selection, Like

927
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 6: you never know, I mean, and I'm sure in Greg

928
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 6: Doyle's mind, that's exactly where this conversation was heading. It

929
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 6: was heading towards something better, a question, a interaction that

930
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 6: unearthed a special moment with a special human being whose

931
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 6: fame could not be burning hotter right now. But again,

932
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 6: when you're dealing in circles with people who are getting

933
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 6: asked questions and pulled in directions a million different ways,

934
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 6: and you're trying to steal a moment of time to

935
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 6: make your interaction more special than the others, you could

936
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 6: stick out for the wrong reasons. And that's exactly what

937
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 6: happened with Greg Doyle. You know, oftentimes when people are

938
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 6: so I'm not gonna say who, but I was out

939
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 6: with somebody who was obscenely famous and uh.

940
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: Okay, name drop not tell obscenely famous.

941
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 6: Well it was and by the way, not a friend,

942
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 6: not definitely not a close friend of mine, but sat

943
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 6: down in a place with this person, and you could

944
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 6: tell as soon as we walked in or.

945
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: Not weave me, I had nothing to do with it,

946
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 3: but as soon as.

947
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 6: Our group walked in, you had this feeling of like,

948
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 6: oh wow, the gravity just shifted inside of this building,

949
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 6: like all of a sudden, all of the attention, and

950
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 6: I mean all of the attention felt like it was

951
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 6: on on us or or.

952
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: In our direction.

953
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 6: And so when you're you're in a situation like that,

954
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 6: what you realize is people don't they stop acting like themselves,

955
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 6: or they try to start acting like they would be

956
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 6: acting if somebody famous didn't just walk in. And it's

957
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 6: a really strange thing to observe, but we've all observed

958
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 6: it in our own lives. If you've ever had that

959
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 6: moment where you are near somebody who you idolize, like

960
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 6: you know, if I don't know, I mean for a

961
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 6: Jordan fan, if you were in the same room as

962
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 6: Michael Jordan or a Lebron fan.

963
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 3: If you were in the same room.

964
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 6: As Lebron or Tiger Woods walked into the same rest

965
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 6: restaurant and you were sitting in like how you would

966
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 6: be acting is well, that's exactly how all of these

967
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 6: patrons of this establishment were acting. And it was it

968
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 6: was interesting to observe. And I think that might have

969
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 6: happened to Greg Doyle here, like where he's typically you know,

970
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 6: asking questions and getting answers and writing columns, but all

971
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 6: of a sudden, for whatever reason, this moment, this instance

972
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 6: created a different feeling inside of him, and then he

973
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 6: panicked and said whatever the first thing on his mind was,

974
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 6: which probably was the wrong way to handle the situation.

975
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: Nah, definitely that was a panic situation. So one time

976
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: I did this radio show in Cincinnati with these two

977
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: hosts that I really love, and I was in awe

978
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: the whole time, awestruck by their greatness. No, I'm just kidding, guys.

979
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: There's a uh, there's there's a there's kind of a

980
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: weird lesson here. Like I, I honestly think we live

981
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: in a very sensitive society. It's it's so sensitive to everything.

982
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: And like if this was if it was a female

983
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: reporter that asked Caitlin this question, what's the reaction. Yeah,

984
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: like that's and that's where I'm trying to go. And

985
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: I know that it wasn't It was a male reporter

986
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: and it was a female athlete, so it's going to

987
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,479
Speaker 1: be viewed in a certain way, but you can't judge intent. Again,

988
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: the only issue I had I thought he should have

989
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: just moved on and not written a column about it.

990
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 1: I understand he wanted to apologize. I get that there's

991
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: other ways to apologize, not publicly on your website that

992
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: you work for. And I think that was the only

993
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: part that I kind of questioned it a little bit.

994
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know this guy, so I don't really

995
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: know what he really had going on in his head.

996
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: I love what what Rich had to say about when

997
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: you're around someone who's yeah, super famous, it changed yourself,

998
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: hangs out with famous people bi weekly. It sounds like,

999
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on over there.

1000
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: If it was a one.

1001
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: Off, I purposed.

1002
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: But that's the thing is with Tom Brady or something.

1003
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys might remember, he wouldn't be awestruck with that.

1004
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: It'd be like my former teammate radio, you know. I

1005
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: think it's from Wayne's World, and it's been too long

1006
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: since I've seen it, but it might be the scene

1007
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: when they hang out with Alice Cooper Oh so good

1008
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: and Wayne says something. He just delivers a line that

1009
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: falls flat.

1010
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1011
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: I can't remember for the life of me what the

1012
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: line is. But the point is, when you're around someone famous,

1013
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: you might say something that you wouldn't normally say, or

1014
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: do something you wouldn't normally do. I'm not saying it

1015
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: wasn't unprofessional.

1016
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: It was.

1017
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it wasn't stupid.

1018
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: It was.

1019
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: His comment was stupid and unprofessional. But I think when

1020
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: you're in those same shoes, it's easy to look at

1021
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: this from Afar from your own couch and be like, man,

1022
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: what a freaking creek. But when you're in that same

1023
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: spot and you're just trying to break the ice and

1024
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: you completely accidentally step in it, I think that maybe

1025
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: if you don't do the job. That's what was so

1026
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: interesting with so many people from sports broadcasting, whether at

1027
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: Sports Rate, they're freaking crossing.

1028
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: It's a male reporter and a female athlete, and it's

1029
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: it's overly sensitive because of that.

1030
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: It is, But I'm just surprised that people who are

1031
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: in the business that have had scenarios similarly that at

1032
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: least know what it feels like. Maybe they didn't step

1033
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: in it the way Greg Doyle did, but they know

1034
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: what that feels like, and they know how it could

1035
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: accidentally go there, you know, And those are the first

1036
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: people that are just like des dirt bag blah blah

1037
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: and off and running. I just I didn't think it

1038
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: r to that same level. But that's just that's my opinion.

1039
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 3: It definitely didn't.

1040
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 6: And I'll be quick here, but I've had Greg Doyle

1041
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 6: on shows before as a as a interview subject because

1042
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 6: he writes interesting articles about, for example, the Indianapolis Colts,

1043
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 6: and you know, when he speaks about football, that's definitely

1044
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 6: it seems at least as well versed as he was

1045
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 6: when we had him on as a show guest. Pretty

1046
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 6: pretty good on football, you know what I mean, Like

1047
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 6: he understood the sport.

1048
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: He really had a handle on it.

1049
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 6: Maybe basketball isn't as comfortable of a lane for him,

1050
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 6: you know, so when he's covering the Pacers, for example,

1051
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 6: you know, maybe maybe he's really covering more human interest

1052
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 6: stories as opposed to writing his columns on the gameplay

1053
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 6: in the sport of basketball, which is fine because look,

1054
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 6: as a writer, it's not up to your interests what

1055
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 6: you write about. It's up to the interests of your readers.

1056
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 6: What you write about, you know, to a certain extent,

1057
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 6: and you can help educate readers and things like that,

1058
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 6: and we can have that conversation at different time. But

1059
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 6: there's a lot of ways to reach an audience. But

1060
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 6: maybe basketball is in as strong of an interest for him,

1061
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 6: and then take it one more an order of magnitude

1062
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 6: divorce from that, and maybe he doesn't watch any WNBA.

1063
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 6: So this could have also, on top of everything we

1064
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 6: already just talked about, also been like a fish out

1065
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 6: of water situation where he's in a room surrounded by

1066
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 6: reporters he doesn't often spend time with, in a lane

1067
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 6: that he doesn't often cover, and feeling the pressure to have,

1068
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know, a unique perspective or bring

1069
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 6: something to the table that somebody else isn't going to

1070
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 6: think to bring to the table.

1071
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: People, oftentimes we put.

1072
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 6: Our own pressures on ourselves and we act like we're

1073
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 6: we think we're supposed to be acting, instead of just

1074
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 6: acting like a human being. It's tough to get outside

1075
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 6: of your own head, and I think that that's exactly

1076
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 6: what happened with Greg Doyle in that moment. It got overblown,

1077
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 6: like many things in our society. And guess what, like

1078
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 6: we started this conversation with this, too shall pass and

1079
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 6: it probably will really really quickly.

1080
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it will.

1081
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: I think.

1082
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say on this is, I did

1083
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: hear some pushback about, oh, well, you know, this is

1084
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: why we need, you know, the Beat reporters more, you know,

1085
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: specialized WNBA reporters. And my pushback to that is, have

1086
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: you ever worked in a newsroom before, Like, it's the WNBA,

1087
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: no offense guys, but they're gonna send whoever's available at

1088
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: this stage. Maybe in a few years down the road

1089
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: this thing becomes massive and oh my goodness, we need

1090
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: to have Beat reporters just for the WNBA. But every

1091
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: newsroom I know in the country is cutting budgets and

1092
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: they're sending people that don't necessarily understand one sport. I

1093
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: used to cover murders and shootings in New York. Like,

1094
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a news guy, but that was what I

1095
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: had to do because I was a news reporter. So

1096
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: that whole like, Yeah, we need more specialized WNBA reporter

1097
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: so this doesn't happen. I think that's really missing the markt.

1098
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: Wonder if it was Pitbull who Rich was hanging out with.

1099
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: I'll tell you guys. I'll tell you guys a different time.

1100
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: I'll tell you guys.

1101
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: All right, top secret, We've got Rich Hearnberger, Penn State,

1102
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: All American, Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. I'm Brian now

1103
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: coming up next. The timing is perfect for some futures bets.

1104
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: We will compare notes right around the corner. It's Fox

1105
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is

1106
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. So

1107
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: the NBA playoff field is set. After the play in tournament,

1108
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: we get all the matchups over here. So I thought

1109
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: this would be a great time for a little back

1110
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: to the futures, if you will. Let's dive into this.

1111
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: It's maybe.

1112
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: That's right. So we're looking at two series that you're

1113
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 2: betting on the winner. Okay, you can go in any

1114
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: direction you want. You can look at the payout or

1115
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: the lack of a great payout. Let's say you're backing

1116
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: the Nuggets. Okay, you're just gonna have to lay more

1117
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: to win more. That sort of thing. Jared, We'll start

1118
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: with you, man, what's something you got circled on your list?

1119
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: Here?

1120
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: Can I go three? Can I throw it a bonus

1121
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: one at the end?

1122
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: Sure?

1123
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'll give you my favorite two, and

1124
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: then at the end, if there's time, I'll give you

1125
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: my bonus homer play when you probably already know what

1126
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: that is. All right. This is my favorite. This is

1127
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: my favorite pre flop bet in the NBA playoffs, the

1128
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: Nuggets on the series spread. Go to bet MGM. Go

1129
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: to the futures tab, scroll down, look for series spread.

1130
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: We are laying one and a half games with the Nuggets.

1131
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: It's minus one seventy five. It's juicy, but again, it

1132
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: means that they have to either win the series in four,

1133
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: five or six games, basically saying the Nuggets are not

1134
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: going to win in seven. Obviously, if the Lakers win

1135
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: the series, this bet would lose. But we are basically

1136
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: betting Nuggets to win in four, five or six games

1137
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: at minus one seventy five. They swept this Lakers team

1138
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: last year. I just I don't see how the Lakers

1139
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: win three games in this series. Maybe one, two's a stretch. Three,

1140
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't see it. The defending champs. We'll get to

1141
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: the next round. Nuggets on the series breads. This is

1142
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: my favorite play. You risk the most on this play. Absolutely,

1143
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: This is a little bit more of a long shot play.

1144
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: But there's a method to my madness, guys, there always is.

1145
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna take the Suns on the series spread, and

1146
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna again lay one and a half games, So

1147
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: we need the Suns to beat the Timberwolves in either four,

1148
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: five or six games. We don't want it to go seven.

1149
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: And this is plus one thirty five. This is plus money.

1150
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: The reason why I like this if we do get

1151
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: to a game six, Let's say the Suns are up

1152
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: three to two in the series. Game six is at

1153
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: home for Phoenix, so I like them in a potential

1154
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: closeout in game six where I can also bet Minnesota,

1155
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: on the other side, is likely an underdog in that game.

1156
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: So those are my two favorite pre flop NBA futures plays.

1157
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: Nuggets Suns series spread minus one and a half games.

1158
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, all right, you know I hate it too well.

1159
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: I think it's it's a fun way to do it.

1160
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 6: I look at I look at this Lakers Nuggets.

1161
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: I hate that I'm opposed to you on this one.

1162
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 2: I love it. Let's go.

1163
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 3: So I like the Lakers. I mean I don't like

1164
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 3: them in the regular season.

1165
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 6: In fact, I haven't in years, because I haven't really

1166
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 6: liked Lebron's teams in the regular season in years. But

1167
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 6: I feel like he's very and we've talked about this before,

1168
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 6: very aware of the moment, and this happens sometimes in

1169
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 6: the regular season, but especially in the postseason. There's something

1170
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 6: special about playoff Lebron and playoff eight D and I

1171
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 6: think we saw that at times during the Nuggets Western

1172
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 6: Conference Final meeting with the Lakers.

1173
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: But it did.

1174
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 6: They ran out of gas and the Nuggets were a

1175
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 6: dominant and over powering team and they could still be

1176
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 6: this year as well.

1177
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 3: But I feel like this favors the Lakers.

1178
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 6: Somehow to face the Nuggets here in the early rounds

1179
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 6: of the playoffs, as opposed to them gaining momentum throughout.

1180
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 6: So I'm going I'm I'm opposing you directly on that one.

1181
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: Wow.

1182
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 6: The other one that I like is it's probably the

1183
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 6: most even series outside of maybe the Timberwolve series. Is

1184
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 6: the the uh Dallas Mavericks. I like them, I like

1185
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 6: I like them in this series. I actually, you know what,

1186
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give you one for now. I'm gonna go

1187
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 6: with the Lakers for now. Let me think about the

1188
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 6: Mavericks a little bit more, because I think that's the

1189
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 6: most even matchup left on the slot.

1190
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: What do you got Bno, Okay, I'm I'm with you

1191
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: on the on Dallas. I like Dallas over the Clippers

1192
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: in the first round. I just can't trust James Harden.

1193
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: He's been up and down, mostly down toward the end

1194
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: of the season. Kawhi Leonard his health situation. I just

1195
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: I can't trust the Clippers and Luka Doncic is unbelievable,

1196
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving, you know about him and some of these

1197
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: role players, these quiet role players. Washington, you know, pretty

1198
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: good supporting cast down the stretch. So I'm gonna take

1199
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: Dallas in the first round and the other first round

1200
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: play that I have. I mean, I'm fading Milwaukee. Sorry, yeah,

1201
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm gonna take the Pacers. I don't love

1202
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: their defense at all. I love overs in a lot

1203
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: of these camps. I just think over player props over

1204
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: point total. But I'm gonna take the Pacers in this

1205
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: series against the Bucks. I think they're a broken team. Jannis,

1206
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: I think he's just gonna be shut down. I don't

1207
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: know that we're gonna see Yannis in this series or

1208
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: in the postseason at all with the calf injury. I

1209
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: think that I think the risk outweighs the reward. The

1210
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 2: Bucks are seventeen and nineteen under Doc Rivers, the big

1211
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: three of Janni's, Dame, Lil and Middleton. They've barely played together.

1212
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: They played about ten games together, like all of a sudden,

1213
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: the chemistry is a poof and they're taking down the Celtics.

1214
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: Give me a break, Like, I don't think that's realistic.

1215
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: They might get to the Eastern Conference finals. I don't

1216
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: think that risk outweighs the risk of losing Giannis with

1217
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: a blown achilles because he's got a calf strain. I

1218
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: don't think that outweighs maybe getting to the Eastern Conference finals.

1219
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: I got him as one and done. I just I

1220
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: love Damian Lillard, but he hasn't been the same guy

1221
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 2: at all this season. I don't know if he's gonna

1222
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 2: be enough to carry them against the Pacers. The Bucks

1223
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: aren't interested in playing defense. The Pacers, they can fill

1224
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: it up. They score a lot of points. I'm gonna

1225
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: take the Pacers in the first round against the Bucks.

1226
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 6: I love Anthony Edwards and the Timberwolves was the other

1227
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 6: team that I'm really hemming and hang between Dallas and

1228
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 6: the Timberwolves. Obviously different series playing the Suns, but I

1229
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 6: don't know, I mean either of you. I'm interested in

1230
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 6: that action the Wolves, I is it. I mean, Anthony

1231
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 6: Edwards is playing like an absolute stud, like he is

1232
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 6: going to be the next best thing in the NBA.

1233
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 6: I just I can't wrap my head around. I can't

1234
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 6: wrap my head around placing a wager on the Wolves

1235
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 6: in the postseason after seeing what they look like against

1236
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 6: the Nuggets last year.

1237
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I struggle with Minnesota. We talked about

1238
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier in the show. I just

1239
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: I think Phoenix has the ability to raise their level

1240
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: and match the postseason intensity. I don't know if Minnesota does,

1241
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: just because they haven't done it before. You know, Kadi

1242
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: and Devin Booker and those guys like they've done it before,

1243
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: they know what that level is like. All Right, here's

1244
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: the bonus one and this is my favorite kind of

1245
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: so the series spreads. I love betting the series spreads

1246
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: because I like being able to pinpoint when a series

1247
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: might end and trying to get the best value possible.

1248
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: This is another kind of wager in that name, and

1249
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: it's basically a parlay where you can and they offer

1250
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: these directly, you don't have to parlay them. It's like

1251
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: an actual wager. You can make win game one series double,

1252
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: so a team you're betting on a team to win

1253
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: game one and then another team to win that series.

1254
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: So you can reverse it, right, Okay, you can go

1255
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: Bucks win Game one, Pacers win the series. You get

1256
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: astronomical odds on that. Or you can go the more

1257
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: correlated way, which is a team to win Game one

1258
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: and then that team wins the series. That's where I

1259
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: prefer because on average, if you win game one, your

1260
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: percentage your chances are likely to have winning that series

1261
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,479
Speaker 1: go way up. So I like to stick with that

1262
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: correlated side, and I'll go with the Knicks. I got

1263
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: plus money on this. I think it was plus one

1264
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: forty for the Knicks to win Game one and win

1265
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: the series. They're favored in Game one they're favored in

1266
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: the series, and I mean, this is Homer City, guys,

1267
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: I admit that it is. But this next team I

1268
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: think has a chance to make a really deep run.

1269
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: I hate the matchup for Philly. I think Thibodeau is

1270
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna make Beads like miserable for the next week or so.

1271
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: And Jalen Brunson looks like a bona fide superstar, like

1272
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: he looks like a guy. It doesn't matter you even

1273
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: score forty, he'll do that. You need even to get

1274
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: fifteen assists, he'll do that. And I think there's enough

1275
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: role players on this next team, even without Julius Randall.

1276
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: I really like Dante DiVincenzo. He's got that it quality

1277
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: to him, so does Josh Hart. Like these are gamers,

1278
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: these are bawlers, and I think against Philly, especially when

1279
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: the Nova kids divid Chenzel, all these Nova kids go

1280
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: down to Philly, Brunson and Heart, they're gonna be up

1281
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: for that Philly crowd. So I really think the Knicks

1282
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: win this series, and I think they win Game one today.

1283
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a lot of fun. I can't wait

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Speaker 2: for that series. And Jalen Brunson has oh magnificent this season.

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Speaker 2: He has been outstanding. Someone else who is outstanding. It's

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01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: Rich Horonberger. No, I'm kidding, he also been It's Isaac

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Speaker 2: Klawhen Crawn I low with the latest. What's going on here?

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Speaker 7: The latest is actually a Brian no update. It was

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 7: moments ago Fox Sports Radio's Rich Ornberger effectually affectionately referred

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01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 7: to Brian as be No. Yeah, okay, I just want

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01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 7: I just wanted to raise this because it's presently going

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01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 7: viral on social media. There is a dietary supplement out

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01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 7: there called Beno for the purposes of reducing flatulence. So

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01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 7: with that in mind, Uh, Brian, do you can do

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01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 7: you wish to continue being affectionately referred to as Beno

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01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 7: because when when he called you Beno, unfortunately, that's the

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01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 7: first thing that popped into my mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's uh, you know, full disclosure here. I'm

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: glad you brought this up. So it goes back to motives.

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01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 2: Remember we were talking about Greg Doyle and his motives

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01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: with his so I know richest motives are pure okay,

1302
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: but as a great schooler, some people would bring this

1303
01:08:55,320 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: up and I wanted to inflict the Bible harmed it's

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01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: just a trauma we're getting.

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01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Isaac, you've unearthed.

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01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: Had this is shadow work we're doing here live on

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01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: the air. Yeah.

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: But I've let that go since Okay, just.

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01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: Like Jayden Daniels and the whole top golf thing. You

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01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: let it go, gotcha?

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, it's just causing me now now that we've

1313
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 7: opened this particular can of one is to recall the

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01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 7: various nicknames I had in elementary school, emphasizing the ick

1315
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 7: in Isaac anyway, flashbacks right.

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01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 2: Now, kids are cruel.

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01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 7: Rough Well, we got the last laugh. We got the

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01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 7: last laugh, baby. Speaking of the last laugh, that is

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Speaker 7: what In Orleans Pelicans did on Friday night of the

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 7: NBA play In Tournament, knocking out Sacramento what O five

1322
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 7: to ninety eight, so they advanced to the playoffs against

1323
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 7: one seed Oklahoma City. Earlier Friday night, the Miami Heat

1324
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 7: defeated Chicago one twelfth to ninety one to capture the

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01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 7: eight seed in the Eastern Conference. They will face East

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 7: one seed Boston in the first round. The playoffs themselves

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01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 7: tip off at one pm Eastern today, beginning in Cleveland,

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01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 7: with Game one between the Cavaliers and the Orlando Magic

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 7: in Major League Baseball. On Friday night, the New York

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01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 7: Mets defeated the Dodgers in LA nine to four for

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 7: a five game winning streak. The Arizona Diamondbacks what at

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01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 7: San Francisco seventeen to one, tying a franchise record with

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01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 7: twenty two hits. Finally, fellas, we have some sad news

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01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 7: from sports just coming down. Popular sports trivia expert and

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Speaker 7: former TV personality Howie Schwab has passed away. According to

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01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 7: his former colleague Dick Vital, Schwab was best known for

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01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 7: the sports trivia show Stump the Schwab, which aired from

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 7: two thousand and four to two thousand and six. Our

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01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio colleague Bill Krakenberger a short time ago

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01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 7: tweeted that Schwab quote was the most kind, compassionate and

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 7: giving man I knew, unquote. So sad news from the

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01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 7: world of sports in sports media fellas back to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: I lo it is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox

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01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 2: Sports Radio and great tweet by crack.

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01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: About Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that any knew.

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: Schwab about Schwab, Yeah, I liked you show the Schwab

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01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 2: was a great show. I don't know how that dude

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01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: one knew that much and two kept it straight. Some

1350
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: of that stuff. It would just be like, okay, name

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01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 2: the top five finishers in the Olympics in Athens in

1352
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: the steeple chase, you know what I mean, and he

1353
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 2: would just rattle names. It was insane. Yeah, it was crazy, man,

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01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: it really was. But outstanding show. And that's the thing, man,

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01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: Like like when people pass away, you know, we we

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01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: typically say nice things about them typically, but you can

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01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: tell what's lip service and what his heart felt, you

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01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: really can. And when Schwab was a you hardly heard

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01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: anyone say anything negative about him, you know what I mean.

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01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: And that's a good litmus test because like listen, man,

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01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 2: we live in the Twitter or the X day and age.

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01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 2: There's something negative that anyone can say about anyone else

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01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 2: at any given time. And when you hear very little

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01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: negativity about someone, I think it says a lot. And

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know the guy personally, but man, what that

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: guy was able to know and keep in his head

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01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,440
Speaker 2: was very impressive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, you know, Stump, the Schwab was a short run.

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Speaker 6: Like Ilo just pointed out, it might have been a

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01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 6: two or three year run on television, but I remember

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01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 6: very I mean very clearly watching that show every time

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Speaker 6: it was on. It was one of those I can't

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01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 6: turn the dial because first of all, I love Jeopardy,

1374
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 6: I like trivia games anyways, and so it was really

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01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 6: it scratched that itch from a sports centric standpoint. But

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 6: then to know that there's a human being out there

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01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 6: who possesses the level of information collection that was inside

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01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 6: of his head, that was the most fascinating part of it.

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01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 6: There was almost and I mean this in the most

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01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 6: glowing light, but almost like a freak show element to it, like, yeah,

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 6: what does this.

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01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 3: Guy not know?

1383
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 6: And I it was people like that fascinate me who

1384
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 6: have what appears to be a boundless memory or an

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01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 6: ability for recall that is unique that very few of

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01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 6: us possess.

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Speaker 3: He was one of those people. It was really really impressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the best, the best, I feel like there's there

1389
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: was one show where and I was young when that

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01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: show was on two thousand and four. I was just

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01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: graduating high school at the time, and it was I

1392
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: was a nerd, Like I was a nerd growing. I know,

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01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: I played sports, so I was I came off as

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 1: a jock, but deep down I'm a nerd. Like no surprise, surprise,

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01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: the analytics guy is a big nerd, you know. I

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01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 1: was like a nerd, you know, parade around in a

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01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: jock's body. But there's there's something to that level of

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01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: intellect that is incredibly, incredibly intriguing to me. From a

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01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: level of I wish that I had the ability to

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01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: and and I practice like I train my mind as

1401
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: much as I do my body these days. But the

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01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: mind is really what drives the engine. Guys like that

1403
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: is the key to unlocking the secrets of the universe

1404
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: is our consciousness. But his brain was just it's it's unbelievable. Yeah,

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01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: and good good on crack I didn't know crack knew them.

1406
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,879
Speaker 1: I have to ask some questions to get some stories

1407
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: from crack on on the schwab because man, that was

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01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: a that was a heck of a show.

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 2: I'll say real fast, it's interesting how your brain connects

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01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: to certain things, Yeah, doesn't connect to other things, where

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01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: like the Immaculate grid was super popular for a little while,

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 2: probably still is, But I don't know about you guys.

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01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: My brain just doesn't connect like that. Where I can

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01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 2: connect with colleges that a lot of these players went to.

1415
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: But to connect with hey, who's the guy who played

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01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: for the Arizona Cardinals and the Tennessee Titans. It's like, Okay,

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01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins is one of those guys, but.

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01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 8: It's like outside of that, who played for the Seahawks

1419
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 8: and the Browns, And it's like, I'm gonna need some

1420
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 8: time to kind of think about my brain just doesn't

1421
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 8: connect like that.

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 2: But that was the thing about Schwab show. I remember

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01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: they would say they would take a player and they

1424
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: would say, like, in order, tell me the teams this

1425
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: guy played for. And he'd be like, all right, Raptors, Nuggets.

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01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 2: Then he went to the timber Wolves. Yeahsia, had a

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01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: cup of coffee with the Celtics, finished it up with

1428
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: the Bulls, and it's like, how did you keep that

1429
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 2: in order? I don't know how he did that. But

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01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: I always marvel with what our brains connect to. Some

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: people are great with dates.

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm good with mascots. Any college mascot, I'm good.

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01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 3: Wow, there you go.

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 2: That's your specialty. I love that Rich specializes in prop bets.

1435
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: You guys know that, right, that's right, and it's a

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01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: perfect time because prop it up is right around the corner.

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 2: Rich Orenberger with this Penn State, All American Jared Smith,

1438
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian. Now we get to the

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: prop bets. Morgasbord coming up. It's Fox Sports Saturday, right

1440
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday,

1441
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. We got the NBA

1442
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,839
Speaker 2: playoffs right around the corner here, quad truple header today,

1443
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 2: good entry point for a little prop betting discussion. Let's

1444
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: do this.

1445
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 4: Prop it up plays.

1446
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Jared, We'll start with you man with something that

1447
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 2: you like.

1448
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: I'm craving a little it tiny Fortel, so we're gonna

1449
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: go to the big rag Goo. Dante de Vincenzo over

1450
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: three and a half May three, laying about forty cents

1451
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: here for this one. So Stevincenzo is to me, you

1452
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: try to find guys that are gonna benefit from Julius

1453
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 1: Randall being out well. In thirty six excuse me, thirty

1454
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: five games without Julius Randall on the floor this year,

1455
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: Devincenzo has gone over this number. In twenty four of them,

1456
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: he's averaging four and a half may threes per game

1457
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: in those thirty five without Randal on the floor. He's

1458
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: played five games against Philly without Randal on the floor.

1459
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: He's gone over in three of five. This is over

1460
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. And here's the one that I

1461
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: really think matters. We talked about this a little earlier.

1462
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: Minutes go up in the postseason. Stevincenzo is a guy

1463
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: that can probably play forty eight minutes if Tibbs asked

1464
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: him to. But when he gets to forty, he's gone

1465
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: over this in six of eight, and I think forty

1466
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: is kind of like the floor for him in this game.

1467
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 1: Definitely mid mid to upper thirties. He has eclipsed forty

1468
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: minutes eight times since March, So I just think Devincenzo

1469
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: the volume. Philly has been a little bit weak on

1470
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: the perimeter defensively. We know they're great inside, but I

1471
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 1: think this is a good game for Devingenzo. He's at home,

1472
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: great crowd at the Garden. He is gonna make at

1473
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: least four or three pointers here and cash on this ticket.

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01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

1475
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 6: Okay, I like two specifically, it's in the West.

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01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 3: We got the Lakers, we got the Nuggets on the

1477
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 3: Lakers side of Lebron James. We talked about this a

1478
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 3: little bit earlier on Very Aware of the moment.

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01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 6: Right amongst the slate of games today, a lot more

1480
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 6: eyes are going to be on the former NBA champs

1481
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 6: and the Western Conference final combatant that fell to them

1482
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 6: last year.

1483
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 3: So I think Lebron has a big night.

1484
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 6: He'll go over the twenty four and a half points there,

1485
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 6: and then on the other side of the docket, I

1486
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 6: think a sneaky pick would be Jamal Murray.

1487
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 3: You know you look at Yo Kitchen.

1488
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 6: Everybody's gonna be looking at Yo Kitch, including the Lakers

1489
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 6: d I think they're going to try to crash him

1490
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 6: and ruin the party for the Nuggets, and if they

1491
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 6: can steal a game in Game one, make this a

1492
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 6: series early on.

1493
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 3: That would be my plan.

1494
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 6: So if you try to eliminate Jokich offensively, what happens

1495
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 6: Jamal Murray heats. He's also at twenty four and a

1496
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 6: half points. Give me the over on that number as well.

1497
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 6: So I'm going over Lebron James over Jamal Murray on

1498
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 6: point score today.

1499
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna I'm going curveball on you guys. I've

1500
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:26,839
Speaker 2: been watching golf. Oh wow, yeah, low scores, low scores

1501
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: over here at the RBC Heritage. You know, I love this,

1502
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 2: and so I cashed in on Colin Morikama yesterday. I'm

1503
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: going back to the well. This guy last two rounds

1504
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: sixty five, sixty six. It's set at sixty eight and

1505
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 2: a half. Today he's tied for the lead, four way tie.

1506
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go under sixty eight and a half already,

1507
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: low scores today the golf course. The birdies are there

1508
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: for the picking, the eagles are there. He had one yesterday.

1509
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take more. Kama under Morikawa under sixty eight

1510
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: and a half today. A little golf action for you.

1511
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 2: What do you think you like it?

1512
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: I underestimate your degeneracy sometimes, Like sometimes I'm like, yeah,

1513
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: Brian likes gambling, but you know, like that's not as

1514
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: muchy No, no, no, you're that's that's about as high

1515
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: as it gets on the degeneracy s goal right there.

1516
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 3: He is involved.

1517
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: He's involved. Everybody, don't ever accuse Brian and not being

1518
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: a gambler.

1519
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: That is absolutely correct here. I don't know if that's

1520
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 2: a complimentary.

1521
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know you're taking it how you want all Right,

1522
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: coming up next?

1523
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: Is this team overrated? I would like to ask a

1524
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: question that might initially sound radical. Okay, you guys ready

1525
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 2: for this? Yeah, always are the Denver Nuggets, defending NBA

1526
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: champions actually overrated?

1527
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 3: Now?

1528
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: Now here's why I asked this. Okay, I think you

1529
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 2: can be overrated and still be outstanding. Okay, I think

1530
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people believe overrated means like you suck

1531
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 2: and it's all hype and there's no substance whatsoever. That's

1532
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: not what I'm saying with the Nuggets, because clearly that

1533
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: would be wrong. But I look at the Nuggets who

1534
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: won a championship last year, but I look at their

1535
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: path as it pertains to this season. Okay, they beat

1536
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 2: two eight seeds and a seven seed in root to

1537
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: a championship last season. Okay, I think you have to

1538
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 2: keep that in mind when you start off against the

1539
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 2: young t Wolves team. Then in the finals you're beating

1540
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler in the Miami Heat. Those are two eight seeds. Okay.

1541
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: They beat the Lakers, who were a seven seed and

1542
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: they swept them. So it depends on which way you

1543
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 2: want to look at it. But as it pertains to

1544
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: this postseason, I've heard a lot of talk of who's

1545
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 2: gonna beat the Nuggets, and it's like they might come

1546
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,520
Speaker 2: out of the West, but the West is really difficult,

1547
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 2: and some of the comments that been made I think

1548
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 2: go a bit too far. Nikola Jokic is sensational and

1549
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 2: he's fully deserving of a third MVP, which he's going

1550
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: to get. He's awesome. But then you start looking around

1551
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: and I like their supporting cast, but it's different. No

1552
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: Bruce Brown, Michael Porter Junior. One brother is banned for

1553
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: life for gambling. The other brother is in jail for

1554
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 2: six years because he killed someone while driving drunk. Like,

1555
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: what where's his head at at the beginning of the

1556
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: series against the Lakers in the postseason? In general, I'm

1557
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: just saying I don't buy the Nuggets being this absolute

1558
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 2: juggernaut that a lot of people are making them out

1559
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 2: to be. I do think they're overrated, Yet they still

1560
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 2: would be my pick to come out of the West,

1561
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: and I think both can make sense at the same time.

1562
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 6: You know what, I this is a personality profile from AFAR.

1563
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 6: I don't know these people personally. Obviously, Lebron James, he's

1564
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 6: the easier reach in terms of it feels like we

1565
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 6: have a better idea of what his personality is rather

1566
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 6: than the others star posing him Nikola Jokic. But when

1567
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 6: I look at the two of them, and again this

1568
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 6: is along the lines of what you're talking about, it

1569
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 6: is strictly opinion based. It's based in nothing other than

1570
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 6: what I've observed watching these two teams, these.

1571
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 3: Two players play.

1572
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 6: I like to look at the faces that players make

1573
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 6: when things are going poorly for their team or for them,

1574
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 6: And I like to look at the strain that I

1575
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 6: see on a player's face after a loss, especially a

1576
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 6: tight game. And I've watched a decent amount of Nuggets

1577
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 6: games this year, not as many as I have Lakers games.

1578
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 6: Obviously they play, they're aired in the market I live in,

1579
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 6: so it's easier for me to see the Lakers.

1580
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I feel like.

1581
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:59,799
Speaker 6: Lebron and the Lakers care a lot more about losses,

1582
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 6: and it appears to me that the Nuggets do. There's

1583
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 6: a complacency with being talked about like you're the best

1584
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 6: that seeps in.

1585
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: It's impossible for it not to.

1586
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 6: Like when I was playing for the New England Patriots,

1587
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 6: our expectation was to win. We weren't surprised by win.

1588
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 6: It was a little bit more surprising when we lost.

1589
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 3: But what can happen if you're not careful?

1590
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 6: And I think Bill Belichick did a good job of

1591
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 6: highly touting the next opponent, the next opponent, the next opponent.

1592
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 3: So we never rested on our laurels.

1593
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 6: But there is this feeling of like, oh, we got it,

1594
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 6: we got it, Like we don't have to press, we

1595
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 6: don't have to strain, if we just play our game,

1596
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 6: we got it.

1597
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes you do need to press and strains.

1598
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,879
Speaker 6: Sometimes you do need to have a little extra motivation

1599
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:51,440
Speaker 6: sometimes like that is that's good to have those emotions

1600
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 6: running a little bit hotter at times. And I guess

1601
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 6: you could compliment the Nuggets and say they're very even keeled.

1602
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 6: It doesn't seem like anything gets these guys out of

1603
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 6: their rhythm. And they're a talented basketball team. And like

1604
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 6: you said, Brian, just because you're saying they're overrated, doesn't

1605
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 6: mean that they're they're not an exceptional team. They are,

1606
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 6: but in terms of care factor, in terms of strain

1607
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 6: and push and desire and want to when I observe

1608
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 6: their two stars I look at Nikolay Jokic and I

1609
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 6: almost feel like sometimes he's bored. He's just completely bored

1610
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 6: with the game of basketball and he's got something better

1611
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 6: he'd rather be doing.

1612
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 3: When I look at Lebron James.

1613
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 6: Even as he's nearing forty years old, I see a

1614
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 6: guy who's still straining to prove everybody in his hometown

1615
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 6: that he's worth it, right, Like there's something about like

1616
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 6: there's something about Lebron James and that Lakers. They seem thirstier,

1617
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 6: they seem hungrier than this nugget squad.

1618
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting concept with the NBA this seasons,

1619
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: so it's so long, and guys, if you if you

1620
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: the postseasons even longer, like in the NFL, it's it's

1621
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 1: quick in terms of the games. I know it's a

1622
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: month long. In the NBA, you've got to win sixteen

1623
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: games to win the title. You might play twenty eight.

1624
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: You probably won't, but you might play twenty eight games

1625
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: in order to get there. So it's basically like another

1626
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: third of a season. And I think the Nuggets understand

1627
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: that better than anyone. I think the Lakers are kind

1628
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: of like a maserati, like you might get really good

1629
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: rev engine, but you're not gonna get great gas mileage,

1630
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: whereas the Nuggets are like a jeep, like it's you're

1631
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: gonna get one hundred thousand miles out of that ride.

1632
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: And I do think the Nuggets are more built for

1633
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: a postseason run because of how deep they are and

1634
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,480
Speaker 1: because of all the versatility Yokich offers. Where the Lakers

1635
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: they're off three days, rouse that's good. They should have

1636
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: the energy in the legs tonight. You do get some

1637
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: random days off in the post that you might not

1638
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: normally get. But in a seven game series against this

1639
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Nuggets team, I just don't know if they have the

1640
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: horses to run. And that's where I think Denver's more

1641
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: built for the postseason. Now to your point, Brian, I

1642
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 1: agree one hundred percent. When we say the overrated Nuggets,

1643
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: we're not talking about them as a team, We're talking

1644
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: about them relative to the market, Like they're a pretty

1645
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 1: legit favorite to win the West, and so are the

1646
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: Celtics to win the East. Like that's even more like overbaked.

1647
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: Where the Celtics are minus two hundred to bet MGM

1648
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: to win the East, the Nuggets are plus one forty

1649
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: five to win the West. Like that's saying it's about

1650
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 1: a I don't know, forty ish percent chance. So in

1651
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 1: six out of ten scenarios, another team wins the West.

1652
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: I think it's more like seven or eight. Like I

1653
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: do see a scenario where the Mavericks just get ultra

1654
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 1: hot Luka Kyrie seven game series against the Nuggets. In

1655
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 1: that second round, things get very inter in the Western Confernce,

1656
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: things get very interesting, right, that would be the four

1657
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: five match up. The Thunder would be the one seed,

1658
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: So the Mavericks went up to face the Nuggets to

1659
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: the final. And then you look at that two three

1660
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,879
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, oh man, what if the Suns

1661
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 1: beat the Timberwolves and then we get a Sun's Nuggets rematch,

1662
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: And like, I think that series in the second round

1663
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: is very tricky for Denver. So they have a much

1664
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: tougher road, Brian, to your point than last year. And

1665
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: I think the number plus one forty five for Denver

1666
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: to win the West, Like, no way, I'm betting that number.

1667
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we always talk about it. Styles make fights, and

1668
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 2: I take nothing away from their path and their championship

1669
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,799
Speaker 2: last season, but it's a tougher path this season.

1670
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 3: It is. It just is.

1671
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 2: And so that's what I pushed back on this thought

1672
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, it's gonna be the Nuggets and the Celtics.

1673
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: Just wake me up when it's the finals. It's like, really,

1674
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be hard to beat the Celtics.

1675
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Gonna be the Knicks. Guys, come on the Knick, Yeah,

1676
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 1: come on.

1677
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,799
Speaker 2: I just pushed back on this thought of it being

1678
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: a relative cakewalk for the Nuggets and nobody in the

1679
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: West seriously challenging them. There's a lot of talk as

1680
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 2: far as that goes, and it's based on what you saw.

1681
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,839
Speaker 2: They won a championship last year, so they are knighted.

1682
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 2: You know, you have sir Nikola jokicch getting knighted. Who

1683
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: could possibly think about beating this guy? It's like, bro,

1684
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 2: the West is tough. I wouldn't be shocked at all.

1685
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,879
Speaker 2: Let me switch gears and stick with the NBA playoffs.

1686
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: A lot of injuries. You have Giannis out right now

1687
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: with the calf strain. Zion has the hamstring injury. He

1688
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,480
Speaker 2: didn't play last night in the play in against Sacramento.

1689
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 2: He might not play again this season. I don't know.

1690
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a couple of weeks and that probably

1691
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 2: long enough for the Pelicans to no longer be in

1692
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Also, Jimmy Butler, that's very unfortunate with the

1693
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: mcl injury and he still played forty minutes. He got

1694
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: hurt at the end of the first quarter with Kelly

1695
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 2: Ubray landing on his leg and he still played forty minutes. Wow,

1696
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 2: it's crazy. That blows my mind. You can speak to that.

1697
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 2: The most rich is it blows my mind. Especially in

1698
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 2: a sport like basketball. Yep, how some players finish a

1699
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 2: game and then they're evaluated and then they're out for

1700
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: like four weeks.

1701
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 1: Possibly.

1702
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 2: It blows my mind. You can finish the game. The

1703
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 2: last thing I'll say is this, don't chalk up all

1704
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: injuries to wear and tear. Okay, if someone lands on

1705
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's leg, yeah, that's what caused the injury. It's

1706
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 2: not an eighty two game season. It's not. It needs

1707
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 2: to be shortened and there's too much wear and tear.

1708
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: Someone landed on his leg. Okay. Zion Williamson is always injured.

1709
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 2: It's not automatically the fault of wear and tear in

1710
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 2: the grind of a season and we automatically have to

1711
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 2: shorten stuff. That is crazy to me. Look at the injuries,

1712
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 2: how they occurred, and then determine if it had anything

1713
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 2: to do with the wear and tear of the season

1714
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 2: or not.

1715
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 6: Completely agree, I think there is a hyper focus on

1716
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 6: injuries up until specifically how they happened. Like you'll see oftentimes,

1717
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 6: like somebody making a commentary on like how this type

1718
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,560
Speaker 6: of in the NFL different sport, how this type of

1719
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 6: tackling needs to be outlawed because we saw what happened

1720
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:26,879
Speaker 6: to this player. It's like, yeah, to that one player

1721
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,959
Speaker 6: in that one example during that one primetime game, whereas

1722
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 6: that type of tackling had been employed I don't know,

1723
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 6: maybe eight hundred other times throughout the season, but we're

1724
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 6: focused on one instance where Star got hurt, you know,

1725
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 6: And so you know, to bring spin it back to

1726
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 6: the NBA and what you're talking about, Yeah, it's a

1727
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 6: long season, and yeah, there are plenty of injuries that

1728
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 6: can and will come up. You know as a result

1729
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 6: of playing an excessive amount of games. You know, joints

1730
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 6: will become arthritic and you'll have actual wear and tear injuries,

1731
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 6: which by the way, usually aren't injuries that are like.

1732
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 3: MCL tears yea, or or elbow tears or things like that.

1733
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 6: It's typically things like, oh, he's got a little tendonitis, yep,

1734
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 6: oh he's got a little tendonopathy. Like he's got to

1735
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 6: rest a couple of games because he's he's a little

1736
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 6: worn out after a long push, a bunch of road

1737
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 6: games in a row, you know, things like that.

1738
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 3: It's not it's not oh he tore his MCL.

1739
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 6: Like yeah, you know, especially when it's related to a

1740
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 6: specific instance on the court.

1741
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm completely with you there, Brian.

1742
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's I do think the season too long,

1743
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 1: but not because of injuries. I just think eighty two

1744
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 1: is a lot. I feel the same about the baseball season.

1745
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 1: But we're never gonna change that. So it's like, what's

1746
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: the point in you know, the TV contracts are so set,

1747
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: Like I've already established that, it's like one of those

1748
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: battles that you're never going to see change, So why

1749
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: focus your energy on it. But in a perfect world,

1750
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: I do think this season could be like sixty ish

1751
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: games and nobody would really notice the difference. But the

1752
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: injuries to the star players. This might sound really you know,

1753
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: harsh of me, but I think it's it's it opens

1754
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: up a lot of betting opportunities. I honestly do. I

1755
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 1: know that sounds like really.

1756
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 2: Like but like not saying good they're injured. You're just like, hey,

1757
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 2: it is what it is. Yeah, right, yeah.

1758
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 1: And now we pivot, like I think we get to this.

1759
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: I think we get to this point with with these

1760
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,759
Speaker 1: players that the rotations are so set. And again, Brian,

1761
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: you watch a lot more of the league than me,

1762
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 1: so you have the contexture that I don't. But when

1763
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,719
Speaker 1: a guy's off the floor, it's pretty obvious who gets

1764
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: the minutes and the shots. Like it's like it's a

1765
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: rotation and and there's there's spots. And sometimes the sports

1766
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: books are a little slow, like I said early in

1767
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: the show, like they bake these prop numbers off of

1768
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 1: offshore algorithms, and sometimes it's not fully baked. It's only

1769
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: the bread's only half baked. Right, It's like Moses in

1770
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: the desert, right, Like you only gett maybe Matza for

1771
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. So it's a little soft, a

1772
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: little more landing for you to get involved with some

1773
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: of these props, like for example, Zion last night, if

1774
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: you were any kind of a like betting analyst, you

1775
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 1: were on the Jonas Valentunis prop last night, because the

1776
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: one thing that is obvious with the Pelicans, when Zion's

1777
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: off the floor, Valentunis gets all the workload. His prop

1778
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: was eleven and a half last night, scored nineteen points.

1779
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: I think he took eight shots in the first quarter.

1780
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 1: Like it was watantly obvious. Was Zion off the floor,

1781
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: Valentnis gets the look that opens up betting opportunities for me.

1782
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll be upset when guys are hurt, and

1783
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: obviously I don't want them to be seriously hurt.

1784
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 3: But from a.

1785
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: Betting standpoint, watching these games, I think it's a good thing.

1786
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I hear you, man. And that's the thing too,

1787
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 2: is I hear what you're saying, Jared, and I like

1788
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,799
Speaker 2: how you put it. You're not like the long season

1789
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 2: is causing all these injuries. You're like, it's just long

1790
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 2: in general. It might be a better product if it's shorter.

1791
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 2: I get that. It's just look, man, you said it

1792
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 2: it's not going that anyway. I mean, like, look at

1793
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,799
Speaker 2: other sports, it's more, it's not less. There are more

1794
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:07,839
Speaker 2: college football playoff teams. Right, there are more NFL playoff teams.

1795
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 2: There are more NFL games, right, there are playing tournament

1796
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 2: with basketball. We just saw it the last couple of nights.

1797
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 2: There are more teams involved, more games, more money. They

1798
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 2: are not reducing the NBA schedule or the MLB schedule.

1799
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 2: It's not happening. I don't know why we spend as

1800
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,879
Speaker 2: much energy as we do on something that's just simply

1801
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 2: not going to happen. It'd be like if I opened

1802
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 2: up the show and just talked about I don't know,

1803
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 2: like Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift are gonna break up

1804
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 2: and boom, I'm gonna be right there. I just opened

1805
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 2: up the show every single time, and you guys are like,

1806
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 2: why do you spend time on It's never gonna happen. Right, Well,

1807
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 2: they'll break up at some point, but you know what

1808
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying, right, Yeah, it's just silly to waste your

1809
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 2: time on that. And that's what it is with reducing

1810
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,600
Speaker 2: anything in sports. Could you imagine Adam Silver at a

1811
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: press conference being like, all right, we're reducing the number

1812
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 2: of games to sixty five, A lot of wear and tear.

1813
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 2: It's gonna cost us billions of dollars. Come on, man,

1814
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 2: never gonna happen.

1815
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 3: No, not gonna happen.

1816
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 6: And also like both of these points are related back

1817
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 6: to the original point, which is you know, walking into

1818
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 6: a playoffs and saying like you can predict what any

1819
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 6: at any point, what's going to happen as it bears

1820
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 6: out because injuries do come up and obviously certain teams

1821
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 6: rise to the challenge. We certainly didn't expect the heat

1822
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 6: coming from a playing tournament to the finals on the

1823
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 6: eastern side of the bracket yet last year, so it

1824
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 6: can happen year to year. Like we act like the

1825
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 6: Nuggets are going to be crowned Kings, well maybe they

1826
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 6: don't even make it out of the first round because

1827
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 6: it's a pretty good matchup in the first round for

1828
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 6: the Nuggets. It'll test them at very least, if not

1829
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 6: surprise everybody.

1830
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 3: With the outcomes.

1831
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 6: And then the same thing like wasted breath over this

1832
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 6: idea that real significant change is going to be coming

1833
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 6: to the regular season in basketball from a from a

1834
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 6: logistics standpoint, or from how many games are played. It's

1835
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 6: it is exactly that it's wasted breath because these are

1836
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 6: billionaire governors or team owners, whatever they want to be called. Now,

1837
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,560
Speaker 6: they're not going to take their foot off the accelerator

1838
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 6: in terms of what generates profits for them and what

1839
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 6: puts money in their pockets is having as many home

1840
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 6: games as they have.

1841
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 3: So that's not going anywhere.

1842
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 6: So get used to it, or I guess find a

1843
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 6: different sport to watch because the NBA isn't backing off

1844
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 6: the amount of games they play in a regular season.

1845
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 3: I promise you that.

1846
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, youse have to find ways to adjust to it. Yes,

1847
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 1: that's the thing, like, honestly, like, that's the thing I've

1848
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: learned later on in life as I've gotten older and

1849
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 1: realized that I can't control anything as much as I

1850
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 1: want to control every intimate detail of my life because

1851
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: I'm a sicko like that. You just have to let

1852
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 1: things be and then react to them. And again, there

1853
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:12,959
Speaker 1: are advantages to having a longer schedule.

1854
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 3: You just have to find them.

1855
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, Hey, we are five measly days away

1856
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 2: from the first round of the NFL Draft. It's going

1857
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 2: to be a beautiful thing. Be sure to check catch

1858
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios Draft Night live throughout the entire first

1859
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,760
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1860
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1861
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:43,679
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1862
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1863
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1864
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Speaker 2: play by play predictions and reactions to every first round pick.

1865
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Speaker 2: That's Thursday at eight pm Eastern throughout the entire first

1866
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 2: round of the draft, right here on Fox Radio and

1867
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 2: the iHeart App. Presented by Express Pros. We've got Rich Hornberger,

1868
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Penn State All American, Jared Smith with us FSR betting analyst.

1869
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm Brian No coming up next. We love blockers, kind

1870
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 2: of like Rich, right, Like an offensive lineman clears the

1871
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 2: path for you. That's a good thing. We don't like

1872
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 2: blockers in terms of in your way, preventing growth. Right,

1873
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 2: we have a doozy of a story for you of

1874
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 2: a blocker in the wrong direction. That's next. It's Fox

1875
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is

1876
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. So

1877
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 2: the Draft right around the corner. Bill Belichick gonna be

1878
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,839
Speaker 2: doing draft coverage, right and he's in the news because

1879
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:52,639
Speaker 2: Robert Kraft, Patriots team owner, he reportedly tried to block

1880
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 2: Belichick from getting a head coaching job during the off season,

1881
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 2: which Belichick not able to get. This was a report

1882
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 2: from ESPN's Don Van Nada, Seth Wickersham, Jeremy Fowler. So

1883
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 2: he got the A team on this thing, and they

1884
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 2: say that Robert Kraft he made a phone call to

1885
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons and he talked to Arthur Blank and said, Ah,

1886
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 2: this freaking Belichick guy over here. You know, this freaking

1887
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 2: guy and his six Super Bowl rings what he was

1888
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: very difficult to deal with, and YadA, YadA, YadA YadA,

1889
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 2: what a freaking hater. Here's the thing, man, I don't

1890
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 2: know how you guys think. I would imagine you think similarly.

1891
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 2: However you feel about me, just let it be known.

1892
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to like me. If you

1893
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 2: dislike me, fine, don't smile in my face and act

1894
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 2: like you like me when you don't. You know what

1895
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 2: I mean. It's fine, you don't have to be a

1896
01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 2: jerk about it, but don't act fake. Craft is so fake.

1897
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 2: He is fake nice to Belichick. He's fake admiring to

1898
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 2: Belichick publicly and then behind closed doors he's calling Arthur

1899
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 2: Blank and he's like, yeah, this freaking guy, don't hire him,

1900
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 2: Just don't hire him. Yeah, we're planning our ring of

1901
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 2: honor ceremony next to you, but they don't hire this

1902
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 2: freaking guy. I hate that. It's like, however you feel,

1903
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 2: just let it be known and stick with it own it.

1904
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,799
Speaker 2: Don't give me this fake version of what you think,

1905
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 2: what you want people to think, how you feel. I

1906
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 2: hate that, man. Just stick with what you actually feel

1907
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 2: and what the truth is. And Robert Kraft does none

1908
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 2: of those things.

1909
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if I completely agree with it.

1910
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 6: I do think that the world would be better if

1911
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 6: we all agreed to play by those rules. But it's

1912
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Speaker 6: a utopian thought, right, you know, the world doesn't.

1913
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Speaker 3: Actually work that way. You will have coworkers.

1914
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:58,440
Speaker 6: You dislike who for the betterment of the work environment,

1915
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to fake a smile or fake a

1916
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 6: laugh or pretend that you love, you know, the boss's

1917
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 6: nephew who got hired because you know, nepotism. It is

1918
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 6: what it is like it it's just one of those

1919
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 6: things that's a part of all of our lives. It's

1920
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 6: not just a part of being you know, a superstar

1921
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 6: NFL coach who's won a bunch of rings and then

1922
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 6: now has a bit of an ego and is a

1923
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 6: little difficult to work with for you know, a superstar

1924
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 6: NFL owner who you know, arguably the only reason why

1925
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 6: we talk about Robert Kraft or you know, the Patriots

1926
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 6: are valuated as high as they are because of all

1927
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 6: the hard work that Bill Belichick did as a roster builder,

1928
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 6: general manager, slash head coach and one at an unprecedented

1929
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 6: rate during his time with your organization. You know, because

1930
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 6: for the betterment of the business and for the fan

1931
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 6: base's sake, and for the sake of having as as

1932
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it, as collaborative a work

1933
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 6: environment as you possibly could foster, even if you're not

1934
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 6: one hundred percent on board with loving the guy who's

1935
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 6: running your football team.

1936
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you're gonna have to fake a couple of smiles.

1937
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 2: That's fine, Rich, I'll say this though, real faz not

1938
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 2: to cut you off, but let me just have to

1939
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 2: add this, that's fine, and I get that, and I

1940
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 2: agree sometimes that has to be the way it is

1941
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 2: what compels Robert Kraft to call Arthur Blank and say

1942
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 2: look out, just fair warning, don't do it, or something

1943
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,640
Speaker 2: along those lines, like you can fake it publicly. I

1944
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 2: get that. Yeah, but why are you doing that? Then

1945
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 2: there's no need. He's not in your organization. If Arthur

1946
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 2: Blank wants to go down that road, let him. I

1947
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 2: hate that part of it.

1948
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well to respond to that specifically, And this could

1949
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 6: be for a multitude of reasons, but two that come

1950
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 6: to mind is one, I mean maybe and again, this

1951
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:56,759
Speaker 6: is really putting a very interesting character profile on Robert

1952
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 6: Craft if this is the truth, because all I had

1953
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 6: I was playing for the Patriots, and my time knowing

1954
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 6: robber Craft is you know, he was a nice old

1955
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 6: man who obviously made some really good business decisions, and

1956
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 6: he really associated himself with the players. I mean, we

1957
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 6: all had fond feelings of robber Craft during my time

1958
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 6: playing there, at least to my recollection, right, you know,

1959
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 6: when but when business is being done, you know, some

1960
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 6: people change a little bit. I mean, one thought that

1961
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 6: comes to mind is maybe he doesn't want to Like

1962
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 6: if I can't have Bill, if it's not gonna work

1963
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 6: out between me and Bill, I don't want anybody to

1964
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 6: have Bill. So Atlanta Falcons were the closest team to

1965
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 6: potentially hiring him, and maybe he just you know, he slid,

1966
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 6: you know, that little thing under the door, that piece

1967
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 6: of paper. It's like, yeah, you can't hire him, and

1968
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 6: here's why. And meanwhile, there was a little bit of

1969
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 6: subterfuge happening there behind the scenes. Okay, so that's one

1970
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 6: way to look at it, and that's highly speculative. Another

1971
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 6: way to look at in this is probably more realistically.

1972
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:07,799
Speaker 6: What happened is him and Arthur Blank through the years

1973
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 6: have developed the bond of friendship, a kinship. They like

1974
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 6: each other personally, and Arthur, obviously knowing where Bill's coming

1975
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 6: from and who he worked with over the years, called

1976
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 6: up Robert and said, look is there I mean, look,

1977
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 6: we all are well aware of all the reasons why

1978
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 6: I should hire Bill Belichick. Are there any reasons why

1979
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 6: I shouldn't as a friend, as a coworker and this

1980
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 6: crazy thing we do owning these football teams? Is there

1981
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 6: anything negative you could say about Bill? Because I have

1982
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 6: all the positives I need to make this higher. And

1983
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 6: then maybe with an amount of honesty and decency, he

1984
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 6: gave him a true appraisal on what he felt while

1985
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 6: he was working with Belichick, and that's probably more likely

1986
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 6: the story here.

1987
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,759
Speaker 1: That's a really good way of putting it. I think,

1988
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: do we know if it was an outgoing or an

1989
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 1: incoming call. That's the part of the details that I

1990
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: don't have that I don't know. Did Arthur Blank call

1991
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft and ask for advice and Robert was just

1992
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:15,480
Speaker 1: giving his friend an honest opinion, or was Robert maliciously

1993
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 1: going behind Bill's back to try to scuttle the deal.

1994
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:22,480
Speaker 1: I don't have that fact, and that makes this assessment

1995
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: a little more difficult. I will say this, I've had

1996
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: similar situations happen to me. Brian. The ere alluding to

1997
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 1: where I've worked with people, not these people. I love

1998
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 1: all you guys to the death, especially you, Brian, because

1999
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,719
Speaker 1: you're at the generic Campbell way. But I have had

2000
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 1: people fake nice to me while I've worked with them,

2001
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: and then after I have finished working with them, I

2002
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 1: have heard the truth about how they feel about me,

2003
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 1: and it was the stark opposite opinion of the one

2004
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 1: they gave to my face. And I'm not saying they

2005
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: should have given that opinion to my face, but they

2006
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 1: led on like they were my best friend. And then

2007
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:58,599
Speaker 1: after we stopped working together, they were dead to me, right,

2008
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: it was like the it was very strange that relationship

2009
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 1: sometimes and how it can throttle up and throttle down

2010
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,760
Speaker 1: based off your current situation. Who knows. Maybe Robert was

2011
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:12,799
Speaker 1: just having a bad day and evented to his friend

2012
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: who called him and asked for advice. Like I I

2013
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: that's the part of the story and the detail that

2014
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever gonna get because that is

2015
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:20,639
Speaker 1: a really intimate detail.

2016
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 2: But here's part of him, Jared, let me just add this, Yeah, no, no, no,

2017
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 2: keep going part of this ESPN piece. U. There is

2018
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 2: a source that said Robert called Arthur to warn him

2019
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 2: not to trust Bill.

2020
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's tough because I I if that

2021
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 1: is really what happened, Like if Arthur Blank was just

2022
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 1: going about his day and then he looks down and

2023
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 1: his phone's ringing and there's Robert Kraft like unsolicited call. Yeah,

2024
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:56,480
Speaker 1: that is unfortunate because that's really malicious and nefarious. Whereas

2025
01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 1: I can understand Arthur, and I do this all the time.

2026
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,759
Speaker 1: Before I bought my car, I called like four people

2027
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:05,639
Speaker 1: that I don't even talk to, but I know their

2028
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:07,719
Speaker 1: car people, and I was like, does this make sense?

2029
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 1: And I got advice, And I think if that was

2030
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: the backdrop of this, where Arthur was putting out calls

2031
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 1: to everyone who knew Bill, and obviously Robert Kraft is

2032
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 1: at the top of that list, and obviously they're friends

2033
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: because they're in the ownership circle. Like if it was

2034
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 1: an outgoing and Robert was just returning the favor and

2035
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 1: returning the call, I'm okay with what happened. But if

2036
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 1: it was like out of the blue, Oh, Arthur, I

2037
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: haven't talked to you in a while, just wanted to

2038
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 1: give you a buzz, see how things are doing. Oh,

2039
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 1: by the way, you know that guy you're hiring right now,

2040
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 1: yet don't hire him. That is really really low of

2041
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: Robert to do that.

2042
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 2: Well, totally different.

2043
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to inject just so we know this

2044
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 6: story now, right, And I think what we oftentimes do

2045
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 6: even even look, we cover a lot of sports. We

2046
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 6: talk sports every single day, it's our job. So I

2047
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 6: think I think oftentimes what gets missed even by us.

2048
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 3: Is why do we know this story? Who does this help? Right?

2049
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 6: So, yes, beat reporters and investigative reporters, they spend their

2050
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 6: days going to sources and asking questions, and if there's

2051
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 6: something interesting, they ask a couple more questions, and then

2052
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 6: if those questions get answered in a certain way, well,

2053
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, they may have a story on

2054
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 6: their hand that they're investigating for. They may not even

2055
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 6: realize they have the story until they start asking those questions,

2056
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 6: and then one thing leads to another.

2057
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 3: Well, look this helps Does this help Robert Craft in

2058
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 3: any way? The answer is no. Does this help?

2059
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 6: Does this help Arthur Blank or Robert Craft at all

2060
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:43,879
Speaker 6: together or separately?

2061
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:47,440
Speaker 3: The answer is no. This story helps Bill Belichick.

2062
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 6: This story is a story of how you know, there

2063
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 6: was some sort of you know, information passed behind the scenes,

2064
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 6: and that's the reason.

2065
01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 3: That's the reason why Bill didn't get hired. You know.

2066
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 6: Now, I don't think I don't think down Yeah, I

2067
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 6: don't think it paints Bill in a perfect light. But

2068
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 6: in terms of who this story helps more, it helps

2069
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 6: Bill Moore because there's a big question the victim.

2070
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a big question mark like why didn't Bill

2071
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 3: get hired? Like how did that even happen?

2072
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 6: There's thirty one other teams who could have hired the arguably,

2073
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 6: if not the best coach who's ever coached football, and

2074
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 6: he didn't get hired.

2075
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 3: So where did this story come from?

2076
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 6: It sort of feels like maybe some Bill or somebody

2077
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 6: in Bill's camp, or you know, somebody close to Belichick

2078
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 6: heard that a conversation like this may or may not

2079
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 6: have happened, and then that rumor gets going around the

2080
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 6: rumor mill, and then all of a sudden, credentialed people

2081
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 6: get their hands on this story and they run with

2082
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 6: it because they have enough people who they can cross

2083
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 6: reference to suggest that this actually happened. Meanwhile, the Patriots

2084
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 6: vehemently deny that any such.

2085
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 3: Phone call occurred. You know. So the truth is out

2086
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 3: there somewhere, we don't know exactly what it is. Well,

2087
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 3: get the X files meet.

2088
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 2: We need more truth here and fast. We need Isaac Clohenkron,

2089
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 2: and he is on the scene. I love with the latest.

2090
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 2: What's going on, Bud.

2091
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 7: Fellas, The New Orleans Pelicans were the truth. On Friday night,

2092
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,640
Speaker 7: he in the NBA play In Tournament, advancing with the

2093
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 7: one five ninety eight victory over the Sacramento King So

2094
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 7: they will take on one seed Oklahoma City in the

2095
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 7: first round. Earlier Friday night, the Miami Heat to throw

2096
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 7: on the Chicago Bulls one twelve to ninety one, so

2097
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 7: Miami takes the eighth seed in the Eastern Conference. They

2098
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 7: will face East one seed Boston in the first round.

2099
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 7: The playoffs themselves tip off less than an hour and

2100
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,440
Speaker 7: a half from now at one pm Eastern Time in Cleveland,

2101
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 7: with the Cavaliers hosting the Orlando Magic. Popular sports trivia

2102
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 7: expert and former TV personality Howie Schwab has passed away.

2103
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 7: According to his former colleague Dick Vitale, Schwab was best

2104
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 7: known for the sports trivia show Stump the Schwab, which

2105
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 7: aired from two thousand four to two thousand and six.

2106
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 7: In Major League Baseball, on Friday Night, the New York

2107
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 7: Mets defeated the Los Angeles Dodgers nine to four. The

2108
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,720
Speaker 7: Mets on a five game winning streak. The Arizona Diamondbacks

2109
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 7: won at San Francisco seventeen to one. Is the Diamondbacks

2110
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 7: tied to franchise record with twenty two hits. Arizona's Blaze

2111
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 7: Alexander three for five, all them extra base hits, five

2112
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:27,760
Speaker 7: RBI and finally, guys, we were talking about Blaze's unique name.

2113
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 7: That's actually not a nickname. Blaze is his given name

2114
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 7: and the story behind it. He was named after a

2115
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 7: minor league teammate of his father's, and therefore Blaze Alexander

2116
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:39,719
Speaker 7: was born.

2117
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 2: Back to you, what do you think about Blaize Lowencron,

2118
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 2: I like you.

2119
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 1: I like that.

2120
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 7: I don't like it only because there was a movie

2121
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,600
Speaker 7: back in the day called Blaze that was about a

2122
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 7: different subject. You might want to look it up. Paul

2123
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 7: Newman I think was in it anyway.

2124
01:52:56,400 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, was that the Yes, it was? Yeah, what what

2125
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 2: what movie was Wesley Snipes in quite one of my buddies,

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01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 2: was Blade as a Halloween costume and the sword the sword,

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01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 2: you know how they did like the half circle that

2128
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 2: it was kind of like it's on He had a

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01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 2: sword that was I don't know, not even a foot

2130
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't think, And so it was just funny you

2131
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 2: do the half circle the whole night.

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01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 1: It was pretty funny.

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01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 2: But uh, last thing I'll say on the Robert Kraft thing, Yeah,

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01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 2: look man, it can't be all things together and still

2135
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 2: makes sense.

2136
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:47,839
Speaker 2: Like, we've got this story about him calling Arthur Blank

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01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 2: to warn him not to trust Bill Belichick. We've got

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01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 2: this Patriots documentary right where it's just it's coincidentally trashing

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01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft. His company owns the rights

2141
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 2: to it, right, Like, it just can't be a coincidence.

2142
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 2: I get it. I'll meet you halfway rich on this one.

2143
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 2: Think about twenty plus years of dealing with Belichick. Yeah,

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01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,679
Speaker 2: that's a lot, it's a lot. I bet that Robert

2145
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 2: Kraft is bent, and maybe rightfully so in some ways

2146
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 2: and in some instances. But it's just like, I hate

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01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,639
Speaker 2: when you smile on my face and talk trash behind

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01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 2: my back. And that's what's going on here. It's smiling

2149
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 2: in Belichick's face. Oh, you're in the ring of honor. Yeah,

2150
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 2: accomplished six super Bowl championships and blah blah blah blah.

2151
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 2: And then you're on the phone in the back room

2152
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 2: behind closed doors. Don't hire this freaking guy. Yeah, let's

2153
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 2: make a documentary. It was more me and us than

2154
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 2: that freaking Belichick guy. Right, Like, I hate that, and

2155
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 2: it's just just own it, man. I think you're better

2156
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: off just owning it instead of being fake.

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01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 6: I tend to agree with you, And like I said,

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01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 6: I wish the world was more like that I wish

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01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 6: that we did live in more of a you know, utopian,

2160
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 6: more honest and open, you know, type of communication style,

2161
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 6: but we don't, you know. And what we're left to

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01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 6: deal with is, you know, sometimes the most base human

2163
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 6: emotions where you realize somewhere in all of this, if

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01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 6: you're Robber.

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Speaker 3: Kraft, like, oh my gosh, like I can't stand this guy.

2166
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he creates on my every nerve.

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01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 6: He thinks he knows everything, and he thinks he's never

2168
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 6: wrong and he's always right and it would have worked

2169
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 6: out if this or that or the other thing. And

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01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 6: he treats me like such an idiot because I'm the

2171
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 6: guy with the money. He's the guy with the real talent,

2172
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 6: and oh my gosh, she just drives me crazy. But

2173
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 6: you know what, we are winning, and so I'm just

2174
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 6: gonna have to swallow that grief and that pride and

2175
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 6: that hatred frankly, and that this vitual and just make

2176
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 6: this work. But god darn it, Like, if I ever

2177
01:55:57,800 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 6: get a chance to get even on this guy, oh,

2178
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take that shot. And maybe this was that chance,

2179
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 6: you know. And I'm not defending it. I'm not saying

2180
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 6: it's a good thing, but it is the world we

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01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 6: live in.

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01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 3: Unfortunately.

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01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: I real, honestly rich, and I do this with a

2184
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: lot of these draft stories. In fact, the way you

2185
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: were playing out your scenario there before Isaac came on

2186
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,280
Speaker 1: was exactly how I viewed the draft and the news

2187
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 1: that we're getting. I listen to the news and I

2188
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 1: absorb everything, and then I am highly skeptical, and I'm like,

2189
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 1: who does this benefit mostactly? Who is releasing this information

2190
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: with a calculated plan in mind? And we can discuss

2191
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 1: that at length with the Washington situation with Jayden Daniels.

2192
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 1: But you nailed it right now. Bill Belichick thought he

2193
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 1: was gonna get hired and he didn't, and now his

2194
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 1: PR team is probably in damage control mode. Okay, how

2195
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: can we spin this so when the next hiring cycle

2196
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 1: comes out, I look like a guy that really deserved

2197
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 1: a job but didn't get one because some old, you

2198
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 1: know guy was really upset about whatever I did when

2199
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 1: I worked there? Right, Like, how can I make someone

2200
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 1: else the victim?

2201
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 3: Or excuse me?

2202
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 1: How can I make someone else the problem for my problems?

2203
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 1: Blame someone else? So I think that makes a lot

2204
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 1: of sense. I'm not saying This is like a big

2205
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, this whole story's all fake, but I do

2206
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 1: think there's an element of truth to what you said

2207
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:28,440
Speaker 1: where this story makes Bill come out looking like roses,

2208
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 1: like he really got the butt end of this deal

2209
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 1: and he deserves better. And I don't know if that's

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01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: one hundred percent accurate.

2211
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the voice of Jared Smith. FSR betting analyst

2212
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger with US Penn State All American. I'm Brian

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Speaker 2: now coming up next, Picks, Picks, Picks, pix Galore, Rapid

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Speaker 2: Fire on the way. It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. Props to the crew, our

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Speaker 2: trusted producer Bo Benson, Chris Purfet, technical producer Isaac lohen Kron,

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Speaker 2: the updates and crushing life Top of the Hour, up

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Speaker 2: on Game, LaVar Arrington, t J. Hrischman, side of Plexico Buris.

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Speaker 2: They've got you covered. We've got some picks to make.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Rapid Fire.

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01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 2: All right, Jared, We'll start with you, man, what are

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01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 2: you thinking?

2225
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 1: Oh boy, all right, let's do I'll give you one

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01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 1: your fee and then we'll do two. Basketball. So let's

2227
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 1: go Brewers Cardinals Jr.

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01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 3: Fee.

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01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 1: You know this is your neck of the woods here,

2230
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've been paying attention to the Saint

2231
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 1: Louis offense this year. They have not scored a run

2232
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:32,920
Speaker 1: in the first inning at home this year, and yesterday

2233
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 1: was a really low scoring game. Well today we've got

2234
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 1: Miles Michaelis on the hill and I think, yeah, he

2235
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 1: hasn't had really a good year. And on the other side,

2236
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: Dlaull lefty. I love this Cardinals offense against lefty. So

2237
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a run in the first inning today.

2238
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 1: One of these teams is gonna score in the first inning.

2239
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: Burrs Cardinals, yr Fee Bradley Bial over seventeen and a

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Speaker 1: half points. I talked about Bradley bil earlier. KD a

2241
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago said, hey, Bradley, be more aggressive.

2242
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 1: You can really be the engine of this team. Well,

2243
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 1: since then, he's averaging almost thirty points twenty seven to

2244
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 1: be exact, over his last five. He had thirty six

2245
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Tea Wolves. I think he goes

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01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 1: over seventeen and a half points.

2247
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 3: In this game.

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01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 1: And we talked about Lebron and how he rises to

2249
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 1: the occasion. I think it's the rebounding total I'm interested

2250
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 1: in tonight. Over seven and a half rebounds is minus

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01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 1: one twenty five. He went over this mark in three

2252
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: out of the four Western Conference Finals games last year,

2253
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 1: averaging almost ten rebounds per game with the Lakers. In

2254
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 1: his postseason career, over seven and a half rebounds for

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01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 1: Lebron James today against Denver.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I like Luka Doncic this MAVs Clippers matchup. We

2257
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 6: were talking about it earlier. Maybe the Nuggets are a

2258
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 6: little overrated. Maybe the Mavericks are a little underrated heading

2259
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 6: into the postseason. They're only favored by a point and

2260
01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 6: a half on the road in La. Give me the

2261
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 6: Mavericks there and they'll cover up those points. The Lakers

2262
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 6: getting seven and a half against those Nuggets. I was

2263
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 6: just talking about, give me the points. I like the

2264
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 6: Lakers plus seven and a half. I think Lebron is

2265
01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:00,360
Speaker 6: aware of the moment. I think they'll do their best

2266
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 6: with their bigs to shut down yokicch in the paint,

2267
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 6: and then moving on to Suns Timberwolves.

2268
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Speaker 3: I like the Wolves minus one and a half.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like the last pick because it was the quickest. Yeah, okay,

2270
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm going Nikola jokicch give me the joker. I'm going points, assists,

2271
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 2: and rebounds over forty nine and a half. He's got

2272
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:23,879
Speaker 2: to get to fifty. I'm gonna take two team totals

2273
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 2: Nicks over one oh five and a half, Sixers under

2274
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:33,880
Speaker 2: one oh three and a half. Make gobs of money.