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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, it's Jonathan Strickland, and I'm here to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>a playlist of ten episodes of my podcast tech Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that are all about entertainment and entertainment related fields, from

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<v Speaker 1>video games to television series, two films to internet videos

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<v Speaker 1>from yesteryear. So I hope you guys enjoy these episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>bit of entertainment, a little bit of education, and probably

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<v Speaker 1>more than a few puns, because that's kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>I roll. Enjoy this playlist. Welcome to tex Stuff, a

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<v Speaker 1>production from my Heart Radio. Hey there, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive

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<v Speaker 1>producer with I Heart Radio, and I love all things tech,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are going to listen to another special episode

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<v Speaker 1>and this entertainment playlist. This is the Experimental Prototype Community

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<v Speaker 1>of Tomorrow, also known as EPCOT, which currently is closed.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's an interesting story to hear about the origins

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<v Speaker 1>of EPCOT and how it changed from its original concept

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<v Speaker 1>to its actual execution. So I hope you guys enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, and uh, let's take a listen. Back on

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<v Speaker 1>October one, two Walt Disney World opened its Phase two

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<v Speaker 1>theme park. The original park, the Magic Kingdom, was Phase

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<v Speaker 1>one that had opened on October one, nineteen seventy one,

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<v Speaker 1>and this episode is publishing in October one, two thousand eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So I figured I would do an episode specifically about

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<v Speaker 1>the concept behind the original Epcot and how that was

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<v Speaker 1>different from the theme park that would open thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>years from now, Like back back thirty six years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>back in time. Well, today's Epcot is presented as a

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<v Speaker 1>proper noun, So Epcot is just its name, big E, small, PC,

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<v Speaker 1>O T. But originally the name was actually an acronym.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's a joke about what that acronym stands for.

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<v Speaker 1>The joke says that stands for every person comes out

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<v Speaker 1>tired because Epcot is an enormous theme park. It's twice

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<v Speaker 1>the size of the Magic Kingdom, three times the size

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<v Speaker 1>of Disneyland, and there's very little shade in the Florida

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<v Speaker 1>whether can be a bit unforgiving for much of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, when I was there. But in fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>acron him really stood for experimental prototype community of tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was one of Walt Disney's dream projects, a

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<v Speaker 1>truly ambitious goal that he had set now before nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>Epcot was a name only a relatively few number of

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<v Speaker 1>people had ever heard, uh it had not escaped the

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<v Speaker 1>company and a few small or a few partners potential partners.

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<v Speaker 1>So Walt Disney had been interested in creating a prototype

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<v Speaker 1>city that incorporated cutting edge technology. It would have sophisticated

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<v Speaker 1>urban planning from the get go, and this was an

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<v Speaker 1>idea he came up with not long after Disneyland was

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<v Speaker 1>established in the fifties. He had previously explored the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of creating such a city. In nineteen fifty nine, he

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<v Speaker 1>got an opportunity with some developers outside of Palm Beach,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida up He had previously looked at New York as

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<v Speaker 1>a site, but determined that that was not a very

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<v Speaker 1>good site for an amusement park, largely because of whether

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<v Speaker 1>it would probably mean that the theme park would only

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<v Speaker 1>really be an operation for part of the year, and

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<v Speaker 1>he wand year long operations because it was the most

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<v Speaker 1>efficient use of the space. So he had looked around

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<v Speaker 1>the Eastern Seaboard. He looked at Palm Beach, Florida. It

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a joint effort between Disney's company, uh

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<v Speaker 1>NBC r c A and a billionaire named John D. MacArthur.

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<v Speaker 1>But the plan fell through. Our c A went through

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<v Speaker 1>some financial difficulties and kind of had to withdraw from it,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were disagreements between Roy Disney, who was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the financial genius behind the Disney Company, and MacArthur,

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<v Speaker 1>so they didn't go any further than that. But Walt

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<v Speaker 1>Disney had really started to think about this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>creating a city, and he was resolved to give it

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<v Speaker 1>a shot if he had the chance. The first time

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<v Speaker 1>the public got to hear at least a hint about

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<v Speaker 1>Disney's dream of this community of tomorrow would be back

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<v Speaker 1>in November nineteen sixty five at a press conference. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a press conference where the company, the Disney Company,

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<v Speaker 1>revealed that had purchased nearly twenty eight thousand acres of

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<v Speaker 1>land in central Florida. Now, at that press conference, Walt

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<v Speaker 1>Disney announced that they had in mind something much more

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<v Speaker 1>than an entertainment offering like Disneyland. Now that's not to

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<v Speaker 1>disparage Disneyland. I truly love that theme park, but rather

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<v Speaker 1>to say that Walt Disney had a larger vision for

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<v Speaker 1>the Orlando deal. Initially, though he was rather coy with

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<v Speaker 1>sharing those ideas. They the details for what they were

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<v Speaker 1>planning were pretty sparse at that press conference, which, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, you can watch that press conference is on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>You can pull up the November nineteen announcement of what

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<v Speaker 1>would become Walt Disney World. At this point it was

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<v Speaker 1>the Florida Project. Walt Disney didn't want to commit publicly

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<v Speaker 1>to any one plan that early in the process. He

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<v Speaker 1>did say that he had many ideas and he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>the project to at least be the equal of Disneyland,

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<v Speaker 1>if not superior to Disneyland. But following the conference, there

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<v Speaker 1>were news reports that said the site would become the

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<v Speaker 1>home of a city of yesterday, so presumably meaning a

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<v Speaker 1>community that harkened back to an idealistic vision of Americana,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the embodiment of Main Street USA at

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<v Speaker 1>the various Disney parks, and it would also be the

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<v Speaker 1>home of a city of tomorrow, and that it would

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<v Speaker 1>be at least three years before anything of consequence could

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<v Speaker 1>be built on the site of Florida because there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of preliminary work that would need to be

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<v Speaker 1>done before any foundation could be laid. Walt Disney died

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<v Speaker 1>on December fift nineteen sixty six, due to cancer. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months after his death, the Walt Disney

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<v Speaker 1>Company sent out press kits to the media, including The

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times, and those press kits included plans for

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<v Speaker 1>what was to become of all that land in Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the heart of this plan was this new

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<v Speaker 1>type of city. It was a say that was designed

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of modern technologies from the ground up,

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<v Speaker 1>a city purposefully laid out and integrated so that the

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<v Speaker 1>people who lived and worked there could spend less time

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with day to day frustrations and more time being

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<v Speaker 1>productive and doing what most you know, Americans think of

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<v Speaker 1>as being the truly American activity, pursuing the heck out

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<v Speaker 1>of happiness. So in this press kett where concept images

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<v Speaker 1>of elements of this city. One of those concept images

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<v Speaker 1>showed a collection of buildings laid out around in a

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<v Speaker 1>hub and wheel pattern of what the company referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as the radial design that would be common to all

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<v Speaker 1>elements of this new city. You would see this same

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<v Speaker 1>sort of basic element of design repeated throughout the various incarnations.

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<v Speaker 1>Each building in this particular drawing for this industrial park

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<v Speaker 1>part of the city was shaped kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>slice of high but you cut the pointy bit off,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got a flat part towards this pointing towards

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<v Speaker 1>the center, the center being a circular sort of courtyard,

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<v Speaker 1>and each building is like a slightly separated piece of pie.

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<v Speaker 1>This industrial complex was supposed to be a place where

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<v Speaker 1>corporations would partner with Disney. They would have their locations

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<v Speaker 1>here to create a kind of a showcase of industry

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<v Speaker 1>at work. According to the breast kit, so it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be kind of a a stage almost where American

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<v Speaker 1>industry could be shown off, not just for promotional purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>but also a way to interact with the public and

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<v Speaker 1>show off the newest of innovations. Uh Walt Disney was

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<v Speaker 1>a great believer in American ingenuity and innovation, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted this to be kind of a stage for those companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Another image included a cutaway concept of what the company

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<v Speaker 1>referred to as the Transportation Lobby. This would actually be

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<v Speaker 1>located beneath an enormous hotel, a thirty story hotel, so

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<v Speaker 1>you have a thirty story hotel. And then where you

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<v Speaker 1>would have the ground level, like where pedestrians will be

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<v Speaker 1>walking around outside, you had the transportation lobby. In this image,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see people walking around on that ground floor,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the that's the domain of pedestrians. Beneath the

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<v Speaker 1>transportation lobby, you would see parking facilities and highways. The

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<v Speaker 1>road was actually beneath this prototype community of Tomorrow. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't run through it, it ran under it. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>different from what Elon Musk has proposed with some of

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<v Speaker 1>his tunnel systems that he would like to build under

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<v Speaker 1>various cities. So you could argue that Elon Musk is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to bring to life at least part of this

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<v Speaker 1>vision of the community of Tomorrow. And these highways would

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<v Speaker 1>also include specific sections meant for specific types of vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>At the bottommost layer would be the the level for

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<v Speaker 1>supply trucks, so trucks carrying important supplies for the community

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<v Speaker 1>would actually travel on the lowest level and they would

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<v Speaker 1>have direct access to things like freight elevators, and then

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<v Speaker 1>commuter traffic would be a level above that. But still

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<v Speaker 1>below ground, and then you would have the ground floor

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<v Speaker 1>where people could walk around. Above that would be elevated tracks,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would have a system that was essentially the

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<v Speaker 1>wed Way people Mover. Anyone who's been to Disneyland or

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<v Speaker 1>Walt Disney World is probably somewhat familiar of the people Mover,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would be sort of a short distance, slow

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<v Speaker 1>public transit offering, not not a fast travel. But then

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<v Speaker 1>across from that is an elevated monorail, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be for longer distances and faster travel. So,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the press kit, the Transportation Lobby will be

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<v Speaker 1>located at the very heart of Epcot, directly beneath the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty story theme hotel. This will be the central arrival

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<v Speaker 1>departure point for all passengers using the monorail or the

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<v Speaker 1>newly designed wed Way people Mover. Another drawing showed a

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<v Speaker 1>large indoor shopping district that was meant to hold imported merchandise,

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<v Speaker 1>foreign cuisine, dinner shows, and roving entertainers native to many lands.

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<v Speaker 1>So you start to hear a little elements that you

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<v Speaker 1>might recognize if you've been to the Upcot theme park,

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<v Speaker 1>but these were meant on a much grander scale. This

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<v Speaker 1>press kit, by the way, it was just a taste

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<v Speaker 1>of the concept. Walt Disney, back in nineteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of months before he passed away, had

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<v Speaker 1>actually shot a twenty four minute film about this concept.

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<v Speaker 1>The film would premiere in February ninety seven, so two

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<v Speaker 1>months after Disney had passed away. In that film, Disney

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<v Speaker 1>would mention that the details of what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida would be this experimental prototype community of tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least a large part of it would be.

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<v Speaker 1>The underlying philosophy would be pretty rock solid, But Disney

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<v Speaker 1>did say that the drawings he was going to reveal

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<v Speaker 1>were concepts that could easily undergo a great deal of

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<v Speaker 1>change before they were ever made real. So his plan

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<v Speaker 1>was to build this community, but he wasn't entirely certain

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<v Speaker 1>that it was going to look exactly the way his

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<v Speaker 1>artists had designed it from the get go. He mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that the Florida project, now called Disney World, would include

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<v Speaker 1>a theme park that would be similar to Disneyland in California,

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<v Speaker 1>but that would be one small component of the new project,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, the land in Florida was enormous. You would

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<v Speaker 1>also have hotels, motels, recreational facilities, and much more. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>the plans also included an airport of the future at

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<v Speaker 1>the southern end of the property, opposite where the theme

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<v Speaker 1>park was to be located. So the theme park was

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<v Speaker 1>to be at the north end, and this airport would

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<v Speaker 1>have been at the southern end. The airport would then

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<v Speaker 1>feed into what was labeled as an entrance complex was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit further to the north, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the entry point for visitors to Disney World. They

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<v Speaker 1>would go through this kind of like main gates in

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<v Speaker 1>a way. But this itself was a pretty large complex.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, on the map, the complex looks like it's

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<v Speaker 1>larger than what was the planned one thousand acre industrial

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<v Speaker 1>park I mentioned earlier that was actually next in line

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<v Speaker 1>to the north so airport. Then you get the entrance complex,

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<v Speaker 1>then you get the industrial park next to the north.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond that was Epcot itself, the full city prototype design,

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<v Speaker 1>and then at the very tippy top on the north

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<v Speaker 1>end was the theme park in hotels. Connecting all of

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<v Speaker 1>those elements was the mono rail system. And to call

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<v Speaker 1>it ambitious would be a massive understatement. And Epcot was,

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<v Speaker 1>as Walt Disney himself put it in that nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six film that debuted in sixty seven, the heart of

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<v Speaker 1>the operation, it was what he was most excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the Florida project was really focused on. Was EPCOT. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Disney, the city wouldn't just be a showcase

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<v Speaker 1>for the cutting edge technologies of the late nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be a community that would evolve continuously as

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<v Speaker 1>technology advanced. It would never be complete, it would never

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<v Speaker 1>be finished. It would be a community that embraced change

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<v Speaker 1>and advances. So what was Disney proposing beyond these concept

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<v Speaker 1>drawings and these broad ideas. What was the driving force

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<v Speaker 1>behind his vision. I'll explain that in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but first let's take a quick break to thank our sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>In that nineteen sixty six film, Walt Disney said that

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<v Speaker 1>the primary factor that would drive the design principles for

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<v Speaker 1>EPCOT would be public need. That designing the city with

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<v Speaker 1>the public need and mind from the get go would

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<v Speaker 1>create the best chance of building a community that met

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<v Speaker 1>those needs from the start. So ideally, you would take

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<v Speaker 1>all the knowledge accumulated through decades of urban planning and

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<v Speaker 1>use it to lay out a city in a logical

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<v Speaker 1>intuitive way, so that the city is adapted to the

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<v Speaker 1>people living in it, rather than the citizens having to

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<v Speaker 1>adapt to the city. So how was it laid out? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes back to that radial design. Imagine a wheel

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<v Speaker 1>like a bicycle wheel and has a hub in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle and their spokes from the hub leading out to

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<v Speaker 1>the outer edge. That's the basic design of the original Epcot.

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<v Speaker 1>Disney was attracted to this particular design for a few reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>For one, it was really efficient. Having controlled points of

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<v Speaker 1>entry and a radial design allowed for efficient circulation of traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>And for another, it also made it easy to navigate.

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<v Speaker 1>Orienting yourself in such a layout was relatively easy. You

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<v Speaker 1>had an identifiable central point and predictable layouts surrounding it,

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<v Speaker 1>so even if you got a little turned around, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be pretty easy to find your way back to

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<v Speaker 1>a familiar point and then figure out where you were

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<v Speaker 1>from there. So at the center, the hub part, the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the circle would be the sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>downtown section of this community would be a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a business complex. It's where you'd find office buildings, corporate jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. It's also where you would find major

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<v Speaker 1>cultural centers, museums, theaters, entertainment complexes, restaurants would be in

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<v Speaker 1>this section, nightlife locations, clubs, that kind of thing would

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<v Speaker 1>be there. It would incorporate all the elements we associate

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<v Speaker 1>with a ibrant downtown area of a major city. At

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<v Speaker 1>the very center of the sub would be that hotel

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, the thirty story tall hotel, and that hotel

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<v Speaker 1>would also have a deck measuring seven acres in size,

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<v Speaker 1>and that seven acre deck would also have recreational areas including,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the concept drawings, ponds, there be parks. The

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<v Speaker 1>deck would be several stories above the pedestrian level of

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<v Speaker 1>the city center, so you'd have to go into the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel and go up to the right floor to get

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<v Speaker 1>out on that deck. And incredibly, the entire section, this

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<v Speaker 1>whole downtown part of epp Cut was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>enclosed in a climate controlled dome. There's the center of

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<v Speaker 1>Epcut was a city in a bubble, which, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>experienced Florida heat and humidity, was likely a big selling

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<v Speaker 1>point to a lot of the people who were thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this design because being able to stroll around a

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<v Speaker 1>shopping plaza or walk to work or just wandering downtown

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<v Speaker 1>without being subjected to the swamping mess that is a

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<v Speaker 1>Florida summer was a truly futuristic idea. Now, on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground level of the city, the only way to really

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<v Speaker 1>get around would be by foot. You might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to use something like an electric UH scooter or a

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<v Speaker 1>bicycle as well, although that was more intended for further

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<v Speaker 1>out from the center, but we'll get to that. So

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<v Speaker 1>you'd really be the pedestrian UH wandering around here because

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<v Speaker 1>all the car traffic would be below you. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be underground, and all the public transit would be above

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<v Speaker 1>you on elevated rails, either the people mover on its

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<v Speaker 1>own elevated track or the monorail on its elevated track,

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<v Speaker 1>And those last two the people move around the monorail

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<v Speaker 1>would also be electric powered vehicles, so at least in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>they would operate quietly and they would not generate pollution,

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<v Speaker 1>although I got to back that up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to generate the electricity that runs the system.

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<v Speaker 1>So depending upon how you generated the electricity, you can

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<v Speaker 1>still be generating a lot of pollution. It's just to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a different part of the chain, right, a

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<v Speaker 1>different part of the ecosystem. It would be in the

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<v Speaker 1>electricity generation part, but not the direct operation of the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>But you still have to look at the big picture.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just look at tiny sections and just say

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<v Speaker 1>this is automatically better. But it was an interesting idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The monorail would have a station under the hotel at

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<v Speaker 1>the transportation center, as I mentioned, so it would still

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<v Speaker 1>be located on kind of the ground floor of the

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<v Speaker 1>city itself. Right, the transportation center would be on the

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<v Speaker 1>pedestrian level of this city, and the hotel would be

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<v Speaker 1>essentially like the lobby of the hotel as I would imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be floor too. Now on the outskirts of

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<v Speaker 1>this sector, the center, the hub of the city would

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<v Speaker 1>be high density apartment housing. So this would be for uh,

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<v Speaker 1>folks who are working right there in downtown. Might be

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<v Speaker 1>for single people who are working within that city. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be people who are working in the theme park

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<v Speaker 1>and who aren't you know, they don't they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>their own families, but they need a place to live.

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<v Speaker 1>But this would give them very quick access to that

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<v Speaker 1>theme park because again the theme park would be connected

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<v Speaker 1>by monorail to the north. So uh, this was not

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<v Speaker 1>the main part of housing. It was just one element

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<v Speaker 1>of it. The only a small percentage of Epcot's population

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<v Speaker 1>would be living in these high density apartments, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the promotional film. Now the next section out from the center,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got downtown, you know, the high density apartments.

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately surrounding downtown. Around that was a green belt of parks.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next layer out, if you're thinking of it

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<v Speaker 1>like a target, the next ring outside of the bull's

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<v Speaker 1>eye was the screen elt. So you had parks, you

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<v Speaker 1>had golf courses, sporting fields, you know, football fields, baseball diamonds,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. And this would be the section

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<v Speaker 1>of Epcot that would serve as the location also for

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<v Speaker 1>things like schools and churches, and it would be the

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<v Speaker 1>play space for the city where people could come and

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<v Speaker 1>spend time outside. So this is no longer in the bubble.

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<v Speaker 1>This is outside the bubble. And then outside of that

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<v Speaker 1>would be the low density housing, the suburbs of Epcot.

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<v Speaker 1>These would be for homes with uh for families, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would actually hold the majority of Epcot's residents. Most

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<v Speaker 1>people would be living out in these suburbs. Each residential

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<v Speaker 1>area would surround the end of one of those spokes

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about. So if you again imagine a bicycle

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<v Speaker 1>that has spokes leading out from the center wheel, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe we should say a wagon wheel because there

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<v Speaker 1>has fewer spokes. Uh, each spoke would be surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>green space. Uh. The spoke itself would represent the act

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<v Speaker 1>for the people mover, So the people mover track would

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<v Speaker 1>go uh out and back from the hub along these spokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Surrounding that track would be this big green space kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like again more parks, golf courses, recreational facilities. And

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<v Speaker 1>on the outer edge of this would actually be the houses.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the back side of the houses would

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<v Speaker 1>be a road where people could drive their cars before

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<v Speaker 1>going underneath to get to the downtown area if they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to drive their cars. Although Disney's plan was that

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<v Speaker 1>for day to day use, you would not even use

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<v Speaker 1>your car. You would use the people mover transit system

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<v Speaker 1>to get in and out of Epcot. You would only

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<v Speaker 1>use your car if you needed to go further or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you just want to go take the family

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<v Speaker 1>for a drive. People would either work in the business

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<v Speaker 1>center or in the industrial complexes that were south of

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<v Speaker 1>the community, or in the theme parks that were north

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<v Speaker 1>of the community. In the concept, every citizen of Epcot

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<v Speaker 1>would be guaranteed a job, and the community would be

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<v Speaker 1>home to around twenty thousand people. The community would be

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<v Speaker 1>a model for a city unit, and future cities might

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<v Speaker 1>consist of several communities designed in this way, all linked

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<v Speaker 1>together by monorail lines. And this was an enormously ambitious idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Walt Disney himself admitted that the challenge was far too

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<v Speaker 1>big for any one company to take on by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Epcot would have to be a joint effort between many

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<v Speaker 1>different companies to become a reality. These would have to

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<v Speaker 1>be companies that wanted to have a spot in that

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<v Speaker 1>industrial complex, for example, where they could experiment with different

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<v Speaker 1>approaches to prototyping and pioneering news systems and practices. The

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<v Speaker 1>theme park would help bring in money to help support

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<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure and would provide employment to many of the

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<v Speaker 1>residents of Epcot. And leading up to this, Disney and

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<v Speaker 1>his team had learned a lot. They learned lessons from

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<v Speaker 1>building out the company's movie studio buildings in Burbank, California.

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<v Speaker 1>They learned even more during the construction and launch of Disneyland. Disneyland,

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<v Speaker 1>you may know also employs the hub and spoke design,

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<v Speaker 1>that radial design. You've got the castle in the center

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<v Speaker 1>and the different lands like fantasy Land, tomorrow Land, frontier Land,

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<v Speaker 1>adventure Land on the outskirts. It follows that same idea

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<v Speaker 1>and it has that identifiable center with the castle that

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<v Speaker 1>lets you figure out where you are in relation to

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<v Speaker 1>everything else pretty quickly. Uh. Walt Disney learned he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>more control over the environment after he built Disneyland, because

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<v Speaker 1>when he built Disneyland, what followed were all these hotels

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<v Speaker 1>and motels popping up around from other, you know, business owners,

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<v Speaker 1>and it became kind of a tourist trappee area around Disneyland,

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<v Speaker 1>and Walt Disney didn't like that at all. He felt

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<v Speaker 1>it marred the appearance of disney Lands. So with Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to exert a lot more control over the

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<v Speaker 1>environment so that people would experience it the way he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted them to and that they would not have their

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<v Speaker 1>view of whatever it was that he wanted to look at,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the Magic Kingdom, they wouldn't. He didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>that marred by Tachi hotels or restaurants. And the company

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<v Speaker 1>had landed some pretty darn good deals with the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida. Before this announcement was made. There were lots

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<v Speaker 1>of tax incentives. There were agreements between city, county, and

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<v Speaker 1>state levels of government and the Disney Company. The groundwork

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<v Speaker 1>was laid from a political and administrative side, and the

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<v Speaker 1>stage was set and Disney's plan for a futuristic city,

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<v Speaker 1>one that would cater to pedestrians and serve as a

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<v Speaker 1>platform for American industry and ingenuity, which would then be

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<v Speaker 1>incorporated directly into the homes themselves. People would have the

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<v Speaker 1>latest appliances and they would get updated frequently. It was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be an incredible city of the future. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have your workplace nearby, recreational facilities at at a just

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<v Speaker 1>a short walk away. It was a phenomenal, phenomenal goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Walt Disney was really gung ho on this and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea of the American dream, an American industry and engineering.

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<v Speaker 1>So what the heck happened? Why did this vision that

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<v Speaker 1>Walt Disney had, Why did this never materialize in this way?

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<v Speaker 1>How did we go from an experimental small city to

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<v Speaker 1>a much more modest in the grand scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 1>theme park that incorporates some but not all of these

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<v Speaker 1>grand visions. And what's going on with that Cot now, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain, but first let's take another quick break to

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<v Speaker 1>thank our sponsor. April nineteen sixty nine, Roy Disney held

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<v Speaker 1>a press conference. At that conference, he renamed the Florida project.

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<v Speaker 1>It had been called disney World. He renamed it Walt

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<v Speaker 1>Disney World in order for it to be a direct

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<v Speaker 1>reference to his brother. He wanted to honor his brother,

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<v Speaker 1>who had passed away in nineteen sixty six. He also

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the launch of what was called Phase one,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be this new theme park which we call

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<v Speaker 1>the Magic Kingdom today. So this was the Florida equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>to Disneyland. There was no real mention of Epcot at

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<v Speaker 1>this press conference. That was a project Walt Disney had

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<v Speaker 1>estimated would take probably about fifteen years to build out

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<v Speaker 1>for its entirety. But Walt's death also meant the EPCOT

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<v Speaker 1>project as it was intended, was doomed to die. Roy

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<v Speaker 1>Disney held a meeting with some of the head imagineers.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are what he refers to as their designers and

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<v Speaker 1>engineers are imagineers imagination and engineering together, and at this

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<v Speaker 1>meeting it became clear that without Walt Disney's energy and

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<v Speaker 1>leadership behind this project, Epcot really didn't have what it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to need to get through the numerous challenges

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<v Speaker 1>that the company was going to face in order to

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<v Speaker 1>actually build out the city. And it wasn't just that

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<v Speaker 1>Walt Disney had a lot of enthusiasm and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of energy, but as also that he inspired confidence and

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<v Speaker 1>other people, confidence from companies that would need to partner

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<v Speaker 1>in order for this project have come to life. Walt

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<v Speaker 1>could convince people to buy in to his goals, but

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<v Speaker 1>with his death, landing those partnerships with companies, which would

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<v Speaker 1>be an absolute necessity to get the project of this

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<v Speaker 1>size moving, would be incredibly difficult, if not impossible. So

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<v Speaker 1>without Walt, there really wasn't a chance for Epcot as

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<v Speaker 1>the original vision had laid it out. Epcot Center, the

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>theme park, as the story goes, grew out of two

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>different park ideas proposed by imagineers John Hench and Marty Sklar.

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<v Speaker 1>One was a project called the World Showcase, which would

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<v Speaker 1>bring select nations of the world together into a theme park.

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<v Speaker 1>Each nation would have its own section or pavilion, and

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>each nation would employee people from those countries to work

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>in their respective countries pavilion. The other concept was one

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>called Future World, which would showcase cutting edge technology, and

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>combining them together would create sort of what they thought

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<v Speaker 1>of as a permanent World's Fair as an amusement park,

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and that would become Epcot Center. So Epcot Center would

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<v Speaker 1>incorporate some of the principles that were in the original

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Epcot concept, like that that shopping district Downtown was very

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>similar in some ways to what the World Showcase was

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be, but this was going to be a

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>theme park, not an actual community where people would live.

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>So gone is the climate controlled Downtown Center, probably the

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>harshest blow of them all, if you asked me. Gone

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>were the houses, Gone were the apartments. The proposed transportation

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>systems were no longer really necessary, or at least there

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>was no easy way to incorporate them into the design

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of the park, which is a shame because, as I

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<v Speaker 1>said earlier, it's twice the size of the Magic Kingdom,

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>three times the size of Disneyland. Walking around Epcot is tough.

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>If you walk around the entire park, it it'll it'll

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>hurt you. Tutsis in the original Epcot concept residents would

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>use bicycles or electric scooters to travel the last mile

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>between homes and public transit systems. Those would be right out,

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>although depending on the time of year, you can sometimes

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>find a an offer to take segue tours of parts

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of the park. I didn't see it on my last trip,

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know if they're still doing it, but

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>in the past they have. But in the theme park's

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<v Speaker 1>Future World section, there were originally nine pavilions, not not

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>on opening not all nine were available on opening day,

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<v Speaker 1>but there were nine pavilions that were meant to embody

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>certain fundamental aspects of industry and the future. So here

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>are the original nine pavilions of Future World. And I'm

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>not going to go into all the different countries of

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>World showcase. Uh. There are eleven of those currently and

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>there's plans of possibly opening up another one, maybe two

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>in the near future. Uh. The next one that's rumored

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to be under consideration is India. But let's get to

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Future World first. You have the iconic geodesic sphere structure

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that everyone associates with e cut and that is Spaceship Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still there, it's still a ride, it's still operating.

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<v Speaker 1>The theme of Spaceship Earth is communication and how the

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<v Speaker 1>development of communication tools has shaped human history, at least

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>in an idealistic vision. It is also about the capability

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of communication to bring us closer together. Uh. I don't

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.479
<v Speaker 1>necessarily think that communication has brought everybody closer together, but

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it certainly has facilitated lots of flame wars. Next, we're

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a pair of buildings behind Spaceship Earth that were originally

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>called Communicore, although they later became known as Interventions, and

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>even that got stripped down. So now you've got on

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>one side what used to be one part of Interventions

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>is a meeting great section for various Disney characters. There's

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 1>also a Starbucks over there, and uh a drink station. Uh.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>The other side is still Interventions. But Communicore was meant

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>to be the home of cutting edge technologies, specifically with

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a consumer focus, and I'm sure one reason it got

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>paired down is that technology changes really really quickly. So

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>you would install an exhibit and then it would go

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>obsolete not long after the installation, because real world technology

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>would catch up or pass whatever it was that was

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>on display. So very challenging to keep that going in fact,

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you could argue that for pretty much all the future

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>world you call it future world, the future is always coming,

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and if you don't keep upgrading your park and updating it,

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>then it quickly ends up becoming a relic. You could

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>argue that parts of Upcot kind of fall into that category.

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Next was the Universe of Energy that was all about

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>our energy sources, things like fossil fuels and renewable energy.

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>The pavilion featured moving theaters. You would go and sit

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>down and the actual theater you were in would turn

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>into kind of a very slow moving ride and take

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you two from scene to scene, and the pavilion would

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>change in nine to become Ellen's Energy Crisis and then

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Ellen's Energy Adventure, and that version of the attraction was

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>hosted and narrated by Ellen Degenerous. This attraction is now closed.

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's being dismantled. It's being demolished to make

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>way for a new Guardians of the Galaxy ride. And

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>when I was at Upcut, they were busy disassembling the

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>old building. In fact, I actually went there on two

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>different days and the whole front facade of the building

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>was gone the second time I went. Then there was

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 1>the World of Motion, and as the name suggests, that

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was all about the future of transportation. Had an omni

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>mover vehicle kind of like the systems that are in

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>things like the Haunted Mansion, and this omni mover vehicle

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 1>would take guests through a ride that was all about

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the the importance of transportation systems and various vehicles. That

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>pavilion was shut down and replaced in nineteen by test track,

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>so it no longer exists. Next, we have the Land Pavilion, which,

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>like Spaceship Earth, still exists at upcut. Thank goodness, we've

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>we've actually landed on our second pavilion that's still around.

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Not all the original attractions that opened with the Land

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 1>are still there. However, the Land is all about agriculture

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and food technology, or at least it used to be.

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>It still has the Listen to the Land boat right

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>in it, although now it's called Living with the Land.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's the same essential thing where you look at

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>different ways of growing and cultivating food. But gone is

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the film symbiosis that was there on opening day. It's

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 1>no longer there. Gone is Kitchen Cabaret, also known as

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Food Rocks when it was overhauled. In place of that

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>attraction is now the ride Soaring. But Kitchen Cabaret was

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>a show that had animatronic food characters that would sing

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 1>various songs with hot tunes like Veggie, Veggie, Fruit Fruit.

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.919
<v Speaker 1>I kind of loved that attraction, but to be fair,

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I also went to Epcot when it was first opened

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and I was very young. In addition, a few other

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>pavilions were built after the initial opening in nine eight

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>two That included Horizons that opened in nineteen three that

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>integrated the various concepts a future world into what it

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>would be like to live in a typical home in

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:08.280
<v Speaker 1>America in the future. It was meant to show how transportation, communication, energy,

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and all the rest would come together to make our

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>future is incredible. And the ride featured a user interface.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>You could actually choose options in the ride, and the

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>ride would show you different things based upon your choices.

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>It was actually pretty nifty. It was sponsored by GE,

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>but GE pulled its sponsorship in The ride would be

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>opened and closed for the next few years, you know,

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>operating seasonally, but it closed permanently in nine The entire

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>building was demolished the following year and where that used

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to be is now where Mission Space sits in Upcut.

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>The Imagination Pavilion also opened in nineteen eighty three. It's

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>still at Upcut. It was themed around creativity and imagination

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>had a ride in which you encountered a character called

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>dream Finder and his friendly little critter named Figment. The

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>ride has been revamped a couple of times. The section

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>called a Man and Works has been shut down, part

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>of it has been turned into a lounge for Disney

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Vacation Club members, and the rest is unused. Although I

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>understand you can actually glimpse it at certain sections of

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the Imagination Pavilion, you just can't go into it anymore,

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of sad. The ride is typically only

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>operational during really busney busy days, so it's kind of seasonal.

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 1>The Living Seas opened in NINETI, so four years after

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the park had opened. It was the world's largest aquarium

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>when it opened. Is no longer that it included a

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>ride that would involve visitors going into chambers that were

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>meant to look like special elevators. They were called hydro laders,

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and they appeared to descend in a watery tunnel and actuality.

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>You weren't going anywhere. The floor would shake a bit,

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the walls would shake a bit, and some bubbles through

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the windows would create the the illusion that you were

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>descending in water. But then can we get on an

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Omnimover style ride and you would ride past several aquarium

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>scenes before were getting to an open area where you

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>could look at different sea creatures. The ride got re

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>themed as Finding Nemo Ride in two thousand four. The

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Wonders of Life Pavilion joined Future World in nine and

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>was themed around life and health. The Human Body had

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>a ride called Body Wars, which used the same technology

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>as the popular Star Tours rides would later on. There

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>were other attractions in that pavilion as well, like a

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 1>show called Cranium Command, which was absolutely brilliant and I

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>loved it. In two thousand four, the Wonders of Life

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Pavilion would switch to seasonal operations. In two thousand seven,

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>it closed permanently and the entire thing was gutted. Disney

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 1>now uses the building for special functions. For example, on

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>my most recent visit, it served as the festival center

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 1>for the Food and Wine Festival. Today, Future World has

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Spaceship Earth. About half of interventions UH Mission space test

0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>track imagination sometimes, but Land and the Seas would Nemo

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and Friends. Much of the theming has transitioned away from

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>what Walt Disney's original vision was all about, largely, I

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>think because a lot of those attractions depended heavily upon

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 1>sponsorships from other companies, and some of those companies don't

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>even exist anymore. They've gone out of business. Some of

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.919
<v Speaker 1>them pulled their sponsorships. Maybe they felt they weren't getting

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a really strong return on their investment, or they needed

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the money for something else, but whatever the case. Right now,

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to me, Epcot feels like a park that lacks a

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>real identity, and there's honestly not that much to do

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>from an attraction standpoint when you go to Epcot, Like,

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you can walk around the whole park of Epcot and think,

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I rode three rides and there might be one more

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>in the entire park that I haven't gone on. Uh.

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of shops you can go to,

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and there are restaurants you can go to, and there

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>are a couple of films you can watch in the

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>World Showcase, but there's not a whole lot to do.

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Just when you consider how big that park is, there

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>are some big plans for the future, including a potential

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>new countries in the World Showcase. Like I mentioned, the

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Guardians of the Galaxy ride is going to be the

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>largest indoor roller coaster in the world as far as

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I understand it, But it doesn't sound like it's going

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to get closer to what Walt Disney's original vision was.

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it sounds like it's moving even further away

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>from that. Now. There are other things I could talk

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.240
<v Speaker 1>about in this episode. I could talk about Celebration, Florida.

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>That is an actual residential area on Disney World property,

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 1>but it's also a radically different realization of the suburbs

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of Epcot that Walt Disney had in mind. For one thing,

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole idea that people would use public transit and

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that they would use bicycles for that last mile that

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>went right out the window over in Celebration, that is

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a very that's very much a you need a car

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to get around kind of place. So that was our

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>episode about Epcot. Hope you guys liked it. If you

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