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Speaker 1: Roden Karen are haunt. The very essence of the civil

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Speaker 1: had to forgive him because to do otherwise, to hate him,

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Speaker 1: would only perpetuate the evil system we sought to destroy.

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Speaker 1: George Wallace should be remembered for his capacity to change,

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Speaker 1: and we are better as a nation because of our

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Speaker 1: in the river of history. Whether at the bridge in Selma,

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Speaker 1: George Wallace and I were thrust together by fate, by

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Speaker 1: to call the spirit of history. The Civil Rights movement

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Speaker 1: achieved his goals in the person of mister Wallace because

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Speaker 1: he grew to see that we, as human beings, are

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Speaker 1: George Wallace said and did as governor, as a national leader,

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Speaker 1: and as a political opportunist. But our ability to forgive

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Speaker 1: serves a higher moral purpose in our society. Through genuine

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Speaker 1: George Wallace deserves to be remembered for his effort to

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Speaker 1: fabric of American society. Hey, welcome to the Blackout Tips podcast.

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Speaker 1: And today's excerpt is not actually from a book. It's

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Speaker 1: from the New York Times op ed uh and it

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Speaker 1: was written by John Lewis in nineteen ninety eight. September sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. John Lewis, civil rights icon hero. You

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Speaker 1: know he died today. He passed today. I know last

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Speaker 1: week everybody was saying, wek yeah, but it was actually

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Speaker 1: I believe, but rest in peace to a to a

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Speaker 1: giant among men and women and people of of all backgrounds,

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Speaker 1: face colors, all that stuff. Somebody that really walked the

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Speaker 1: in terms of distress is vengeance. You know, it's something

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Speaker 1: that we all it's a human emotion we all relate to,

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Speaker 1: all been there before. And I think the hardest fucking thing,

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Speaker 1: it's harder than it's hard to forgive people to move on.

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Speaker 1: And I you know, and too often people trivialize forgiveness

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Speaker 3: It's really about protecting your soul.

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Speaker 1: And I believe also it's about saving someone else's soul

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Speaker 1: because of what they did, you know, So to see

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Speaker 1: It was pushing people to make that concerted effort to say,

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Speaker 1: this sustain in your soul more than nine So what

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Speaker 1: win the way when the day win the war. And look,

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Speaker 1: like there's some some there's some consideration and wisdom in

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Speaker 1: that good trouble he did, all of that still came

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Speaker 1: from a place of radical love for himself, his fellow man, woman,

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Speaker 1: will be no justice if we don't have the capacity

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Speaker 1: to to forgive at some point. You can't have you

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Speaker 1: I think that's a very important lesson. That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: No, you can't. And you know, because.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people have been hurt, a lot of

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Speaker 4: people have been let down, a lot of that's why

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Speaker 4: so much anger? You do me, fuck you forever, you

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Speaker 4: crossed me, Fuck you forever, fuck you forever. And you're like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: you say that, you say that, let's go back.

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Speaker 2: Down memory lane. In your life.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever disappointed your parents, your grandparents? Have you

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Speaker 4: ever disappointed your uncles? Have you ever disappointed your children,

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Speaker 4: as your kids, it don't matter.

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Speaker 2: Did they forgive you? Is the question?

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Speaker 4: Because the thing is people act like you do something

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Speaker 4: to them, and you're just supposed to write people off forever.

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Speaker 4: But everybody under the sign of my voice at some

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Speaker 4: period of time, somebody somewhere had to ask you for forgiveness.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people want to pick and choose when

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Speaker 4: Like you were just born absolutely positively perfect and there's

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Speaker 4: nothing that you ever did in your life that requires

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Speaker 4: for me, I think as you become an adult, life

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Speaker 4: will harden your heart. That's a lot of people like

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Speaker 4: life will actually harden your heart, and you have got

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Speaker 4: to learn that, in my opinion, if you choose not

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Speaker 4: say that, but you can tell that it bothers them

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Speaker 4: and it weighs them down, and it hurts them, and

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Speaker 4: it prevents them from relationships and it breaks bonds and

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Speaker 4: it does all this damage because you are allowing this

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Speaker 2: You are allowing it to.

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Speaker 4: Tell you apart, and you can't forgive, and you can't

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Speaker 4: forget and it's a replay in your mind, and it's

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Speaker 4: a very tortuous place to be and a lot of.

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Speaker 2: People will never admit that they're struggling with this.

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Speaker 4: It's easier for you to say, well, then fuck them

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Speaker 4: because you quote unquot protecting yourself and I understand that.

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Speaker 2: But part of.

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Speaker 4: Life is love and lost and being disappointed, and part

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Speaker 4: of life is also being hurt, like that's also the

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Speaker 4: that's also part of life and living. And my thing

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Speaker 4: for everybody, and particularly here in America, particularly with slavery

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Speaker 4: and all that stuff. In order for us to move

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Speaker 4: past that, it's a lot of forgiving. White people need

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Speaker 4: That's very hard to do because you're requiring a lot

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Speaker 4: and the past and it hurts, and don't.

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Speaker 1: Be lost in that. There has to be repentance, that

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Speaker 1: it has to be work like, it's not forgiveness for

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Speaker 1: forgiveness sake.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that's what people get lost in, is

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Speaker 1: this idea like yeah, and then we move on. It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: when someone is willing to move on, are you going

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Speaker 1: to meet them there? You know? Because if not, then

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Speaker 1: what's the point of the movement If the whole movement

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Speaker 1: I don't know, punishment of white people, some type of like,

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, cooking of white whiteness,

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Speaker 1: people can't it's like they want to replace the white

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Speaker 3: And I think to see past that is so rare

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Speaker 1: And John Lewis saw past that, like, no, it's not

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Speaker 1: about us dictating down to white people, like and now

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Speaker 1: fuck we want, you know, Like, it's about uh, mitigating harm,

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Speaker 1: it's about coming together and putting yourself on the line

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Speaker 1: other thing too, is what I what I what I

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Speaker 1: nigga or something, then you have to admit the reason

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Speaker 1: we lionize this dude. The reason people look up to

435
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Speaker 1: him is because of that capacity to forgive and because

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Speaker 1: there is a virtue in it that we must acknowledge

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Speaker 1: exist because we as long. If we forget that, I

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Speaker 1: feel like then everything was pointless. I think everyone talks

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Speaker 1: about white supremacy is capitalism, They talk about the racism,

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Speaker 1: they talk about all this these like bigger societal terms

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Speaker 1: and stuff, but just emotionally, emotionally, I feel like white

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Speaker 1: supremacy is really trying to turn and take and mold

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Speaker 1: us into the monsters that they said we are, you know,

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Speaker 1: and at least for me personally, I refuse. Like that

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Speaker 1: is a revolution. That is fighting back. That is radical

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Speaker 1: is to love somebody, you know. That's why the you know,

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Speaker 1: that's why I mean, I make Joe somebody, but that's

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Speaker 1: why that prison a relationship. I'm closer to that than

449
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Speaker 1: I am to you know, lock them all up. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because on some level I understand

451
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Speaker 1: what they're trying to get to is this idea of

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Speaker 1: you trespass, but you're still a human being, and then

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Speaker 1: that I believe you're salvageable. I believe you can be

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Speaker 1: you know, you can be molded or supported in areas

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Speaker 1: that would that would reduce the likelihood for you to

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Speaker 1: commit crime. That is what they essentially are saying. Most

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Speaker 1: people don't look at it, you know. I laugh at

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Speaker 1: the people that just welded over you like a moral

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Speaker 1: hour horse. But in it's practice, it's forgiveness, and people

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Speaker 1: talk a good game. But ain't nobody into.

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Speaker 2: That, you know?

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Speaker 5: All right, Butterfly in the sky, I can go twice high.

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Speaker 1: Take a look it saying no, but iren rang.

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Speaker 2: I can go anyway.

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Speaker 6: Brings to know and ways to grow, A reading rainbow,

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Speaker 6: a candy anything.

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Speaker 2: Take a look.

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Speaker 6: It's another book, a reading rainbow, reading rainbow.

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Speaker 1: All right, we did have people that gave us money

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Speaker 1: on this good Saturday night. Let's give them a shout out.

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Speaker 1: I tossion depression. Today's a new day, that's right, new day,

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Speaker 1: new salary. Let's talk about who sent us this Monday.

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Speaker 1: Our boy Chris from Hawaii, Thank you, Chris, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Try ain't a wine Cole. Shout out to trying wine

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Speaker 1: donator if I'm not mistaken. Thank you very much, Simone Cee.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody who donated with appreciate all of you.

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah thanks one show.

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Speaker 6: But the sunshine, nothing the cloud and this sucks like a.

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Speaker 2: Full night.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: The new name they tell me, where are my blues? Guys,

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Speaker 2: love and Joe come you tell me? Is all right?

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Speaker 6: I almost my power that I can't explain, like a shower.

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Speaker 1: And I know W hurt y'all.

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Speaker 2: But I smile, even though it hurtsy. I smile.

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Speaker 6: I know God is working for a smile, even though

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Speaker 6: there for a while I smile.

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Speaker 2: Smile.

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Speaker 1: That's so hard to look up when you look down.

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Speaker 2: I sure I hate to see your give up. Now

503
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Speaker 2: you're so much better.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the people that gave us Monday. Okay,

505
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: because this is a capitalistic enterprise that we are doing here. Okay,

506
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: this is a black capitalistic business and we are trying

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Speaker 1: to get money. All right, Oh we got I think

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Speaker 1: this is a new one. Let me know if I

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Speaker 1: read it before my proverbial woke Auntie, aunt and uncle.

510
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Speaker 1: I'm a guy from Queens who was raised around nothing

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Speaker 1: but my blacks. After relocating the main with my family,

512
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Speaker 1: I was out of my element for a whole last

513
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Speaker 1: year until a college buddy of mine put me on

514
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Speaker 1: to You Guys, Three Guys on and the Slow Other

515
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Speaker 1: Great Black podcast. But I love the first episode. I

516
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: listened to it, and I haven't stopped since. I've gone

517
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: overboard recently after my climbing the paywall and rewatching old

518
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: movies such as almost all the Marvel ones just to

519
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Speaker 1: hear the reviews, and now I'm revisiting the Game of

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Speaker 1: Thrones and views as well. Hey get that money word, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Two have kept me saying and black and Maine, which

522
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Speaker 1: is a tall order at times, it seems. Thanks, thanks,

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00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: thank you, for the laughter, the nuance and all the

524
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: little lessons I stow away to even share with my

525
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Speaker 1: little one every one day. Peace, Kate Lewis, Thanks Kay Lewis,

526
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Speaker 1: Thank you being too long. Five stars, five heart emojis

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Speaker 1: from g Bench in fourteenth. That's it, five heart emojis.

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Speaker 2: Youve got to say words, y'all.

529
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Speaker 1: We don't even need words anymore.

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Speaker 2: Emojis is fine with us.

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Speaker 1: Five heart emojis works to me, okay. Riding Karen and

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Speaker 1: My sun Shine. This is from Fist of Bucho, who

533
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: says love hearing these two, whether with guests or without,

534
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: bring a perfect mix of funny, fun and incisive commentary

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Speaker 1: on the world as experienced through their eyes and ears. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Someone was telling me. I was talking to a friend

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Speaker 1: the other day and I'll talk well, Chris Lamberg. I

538
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Speaker 1: was talking to Chris the other day and we was

539
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Speaker 1: like and he was like, yeah, y'all been killing it

540
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: on the show for like a minute now a long time.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, you know, the pandemic, we've

542
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Speaker 1: been able to get real good guests and stuff. And

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Speaker 1: he was like, no, I just mean with y'all too,

544
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Speaker 1: Like y'all just been doing a great job. He was like,

545
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Speaker 1: I don't know, y'all just hit y'all stride and I

546
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Speaker 1: was like, you know what, thank you. I'm gonna take

547
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Speaker 1: that compliment. In the fifteen years of listening to the podcast,

548
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: sometimes ten hours a day, I've checked out many hundreds

549
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Speaker 1: of different shows, and TBGWT is consistently one of the

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Speaker 1: very best around. Every time I put one of their

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Speaker 1: episodes on, suddenly the world seems like a better place,

552
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Speaker 1: even when they're talking about how jacked up the world is.

553
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Speaker 1: And it also doesn't hurt that they are hot.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Yes, thank you, we are hot, Bennet.

555
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Speaker 1: This is what I keep hearing riding Karen on Hunt.

556
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Speaker 1: That's what they keep saying in these streets. We got

557
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Speaker 1: some five star reviews on Stitcher. I don't know why

558
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Speaker 1: y'all was like Stitcher this week, were doing it? Thank you? Okay,

559
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: we appreciate y'all. Aincient, f says stars, intelligent, engaging, entertaining.

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Speaker 1: It's your man, ain't your future here. I've been listening

561
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Speaker 1: for a long time and I meant to have been

562
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Speaker 1: slipping on the reviews, but my favorite country cousin, Karen,

563
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: has made me sit down to give you all something

564
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: back for what you give us. All I can say

565
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: is you guys keep me in stitches, make me think deeply,

566
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Speaker 1: and give me plenty of ammunition to fire back at

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00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: these crazy ass white folks I'm surrounded by. You have

568
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: me researching how to start my own podcast. There's so

569
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: much going on here in Louisville, Kentucky, but the media

570
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: outlets here for us are steadily shrinking. Anyway, Thank you

571
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: so much for what you do and much much more success.

572
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: PS go get you one of those COVID nineteen business

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Speaker 1: loans and expand can you imagine a Rod and Karen

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Speaker 1: TV show?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know what, Yes, I can't imagine that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it would look like necessarily, but yeah we

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Speaker 1: could be.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, the married Southern.

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Speaker 1: Well, actually it would be nothing like it. Then, deeze Meryl. Okay,

581
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Speaker 1: I love they podcast, dude anyway. Five stars, Oh and

582
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Speaker 1: the Ancient Future Love of Another one says the bomb

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Speaker 1: up and another one just wanted to hit you with

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Speaker 1: one most since I fell behind love y'all, Peace come through.

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Speaker 1: Extra five star review. Sammy G says the best podcast

586
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Speaker 1: on Earth. Okay, I know I'm supposed to do this

587
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: a while ago. I've been listening for at least five years,

588
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Speaker 1: so here it is my five on it. This is

589
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: the best podcast I have ever listened to, and I'm

590
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: always twitching in anticipation for the next episode. Thank you

591
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: so much for being so great at what y'all do.

592
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: I wish there was more black podcasts like y'all. My

593
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: other favorite, So Well Spoken. They are not as consistent,

594
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: but they do some great stuff. Maybe you guys could

595
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Speaker 1: bring them on. I will literally die if this happen.

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Speaker 3: Thanks again, Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You know we always listen to a whole lot of podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's my first time hearing

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Speaker 1: of So Well Spoken. So but I'll make sure to

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Speaker 1: try to check it out. Toy Edmond says the great

601
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Speaker 1: the greatest podcast ever. Hey, y'all, it's Toy. I'm finally

602
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: able to leave y'all a review. I've given up on

603
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: waiting for Spotify to get their lives. AnyWho, this is

604
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: the best podcast I've ever listened to. I love that

605
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: comedy and nuanced view on all things black culture, LGBT, news, politics, etc.

606
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: Rodd's impressions are hilarious and Karen's laugh makes me laugh

607
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: even harder, especially in the background of that This Too

608
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: Much episodes. This podcast gets black people a little bit

609
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Speaker 1: of everything. I tell everyone I can about their podcast.

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Speaker 1: They also allow me to be their guests on the

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Speaker 1: Medium Talk episodes. So yes, it was a great interview.

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Speaker 1: I hope you alls check it out so I can

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Speaker 1: share my book and the story of domestic violence to

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Speaker 1: bring awareness. I can go on and on about how

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Speaker 1: amazing they are. Well, you're amazing, toy. Thank you so

616
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: much for listening, thank you for sharing, thank you for

617
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: letting me interview you all that good stuff. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: what y'all had to say, let's get into y'all comments

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Speaker 1: on the Black Guy Who Tips dot com website, where

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Speaker 1: each episode you can leave comments under. We did four

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Speaker 1: this week. The first one was a feedback episode twenty

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Speaker 1: one thirty eight brilliant, hilarious, engaging, authentic. Five comments. Whitney

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Speaker 1: Osmodius says Central Park Karen should get whatever punishment law

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Speaker 1: enforcement would give a black person who did what she did.

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Speaker 1: A personally would like to see the see consequences for

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Speaker 1: racist actions. I hear you, and I think at this

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Speaker 1: point it really just determines what how you feel and

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Speaker 1: what you think consequences mean. So, if consequences is the

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Speaker 1: system that we feel unfairly over incarcerats black people, would

630
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Speaker 1: should unfairly over incarcerate her, I understand that that's no

631
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Speaker 1: kind of the eye for I think I think Christian

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Speaker 1: Cooper basically says, her name is trash. She lost her job.

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Speaker 1: You know, did she get kicked out of her building?

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Speaker 1: She got her doll back. But you know, if that's

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Speaker 1: where he stops, that's where he stops, it's really uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, for him, that's enough, but for somebody else

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Speaker 1: it might not be enough. And you know, that seems

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Speaker 1: what the whole conflict between people's discussion of what he

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Speaker 1: should be up to and what, you know, what they

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Speaker 1: feel like should happen, That seems to be the whole conflict.

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Speaker 1: But honestly, the criminal justice system quote unquote has enough

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Speaker 1: evidence with or without that man to convict this woman, right.

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Speaker 2: And I'm fine with whatever the system decides.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, d Ramsey aka Mother Jenkins says, I'm playing catchup

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Speaker 1: with episodes. I love episode twenty one thirty five with

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Speaker 1: Frankie French tell us not her real name, she was magnificent.

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Speaker 1: I know that the past four years of me turning

648
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Speaker 1: into tuning into the podcast have provided me with information

649
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: and insight in the very social, political or community issues.

650
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Speaker 1: Thanks d Ramsey, Monica says, how dare you riding, Karen?

651
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: How dare you talk to me like you know me?

652
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: You're not parents. You were talking about people who can't

653
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: be in silenced with themselves as I was listening to

654
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: you while listening to NPR, while doing the dishes, while

655
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: doing my laundry, while waiting for the water to filter,

656
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: while I was making lemonade, all at the same time.

657
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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I can't be in silence, Hurrah. Just kidding,

658
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: a ha, just kidding. That definitely is what it means.

659
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: It's something I've struggle with. That's why I fall asleep

660
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: through your podcasts or others. Sometimes. I really liked hearing

661
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: about how you both use counting to calm your mind

662
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: and bring yourself back to the moment. I'm going to

663
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: explore the idea of micro meditation. I'm not consistent enough

664
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: with regular meditation, yet micro meditation might be easier, shorter.

665
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Speaker 2: It's shorter, shorter periods of time.

666
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Speaker 1: And work your way up.

667
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Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, yeah, you know it's an exercise, because

668
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 4: it's almost something if you're not accustomed to it. Yeah,

669
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Speaker 4: five seconds, ten seconds, thirty seconds, and next thing you know,

670
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Speaker 4: you're doing the menu, and next thing you know, when

671
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: you're on sweet it to five or ten. Like it

672
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 4: is a gradual process, particularly if you have a brain

673
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Speaker 4: that constantly runs all the time.

674
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Speaker 1: Him Doc says, I fuck with what, I fuck with

675
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Speaker 1: all of y'all, a host of truly beautiful people. Very

676
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: grateful for this community. Oh that's just a very nice,

677
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: very nice comment. Even he says, artist is still delicious.

678
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: And there was a line in the drive through the

679
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: last time I went, oh, listen, I never said there's

680
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: not a line in the drive through. I said, there's

681
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: never a line inside. The reason there's a line in

682
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: the drive through is because they have to make everything

683
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: to order because no one ever orders that. So literally,

684
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: if you order a roast beef sandwich, they have to

685
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: start cooking the roast beef as you're waiting in line,

686
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: so you have to wait thirty minutes for them to

687
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: roast to beef or whatever. That's that's very that's not

688
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: unusual at all. Bad service can create a good line.

689
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: No lack of customers can also create a good line

690
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: in fast food. You know, you know, like the line

691
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: is never long, Like when the line is long and Popeye's,

692
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: we all know because it's bad service, right like we're

693
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: like the good food is delicious, but also they had

694
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Speaker 1: a worse service. The line is long Chick fil A,

695
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: it's because everybody wants some Chick fil A and they

696
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: gotta have people outside taking your order in the middle

697
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: of one hundred and three degree heat. They don't care,

698
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: walkie talkie's, relay teens, sniper's on the roof. Yes, they

699
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: got all of the shit, but they gonna have a

700
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Speaker 1: long line because people love Chick fil Ah. But you know,

701
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Speaker 1: when the line is on at Arby's, it just means

702
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: two people wanted Arby's anyway. The poets, have you made

703
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: any friends in the TBGWT community? Yes, not yet? Or

704
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how to make friends, Karen, Yes, I

705
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: have made friends. I have too some of my best

706
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: friends now yes yes, Twenty three point six percent say yes,

707
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: thirty forty six percent say not yet, and then thirty

708
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Speaker 1: and a half percent say I don't know how to

709
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: make friends, which I understand. Okay, it's hard if you

710
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: don't learn at a young age how you're supposed to

711
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: learn as an adult. And these motherfuckers are not as

712
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: friendly once they get it to be grown ever, So

713
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: twenty one to thirty nine public debate, we had four

714
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: comments on this one. Kim says, Karen, you spoke the

715
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: truth about Wait. I thought my mama and her family

716
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: were the only ones like this. It drives me crazy,

717
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: and I've told her so many motherfucker times to stop that.

718
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: You're right, you know what you look like. I don't

719
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: need nobody tell me that. The thing is, she ain't small,

720
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Speaker 1: but that is her go to She's seventy six now,

721
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Speaker 1: it ain't changing. But I will let her know how

722
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: I feel when she said something foul.

723
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and don't count up about your little hurt feelings,

724
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: you know, cause it comes to a point where you

725
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: have to kind of stand up in your truth and

726
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: become an adult. Because to most parents, you know, no

727
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 4: matter how old you are, you still quote unquote their child.

728
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Speaker 2: And that's understandable.

729
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: Some parents never allow their children to grow up, you know,

730
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: they still feel like that they can boss you around

731
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: and quote unquote tell you what to do, and particularly

732
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: most black people have been taught we do certain things out.

733
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Speaker 2: Of respect, which is cool.

734
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Speaker 4: But I can respectfully tell you that you get my

735
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: motherfucking nerves and you need to chill out because now

736
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: we've grown. You don't wipe my ass, you don't you

737
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Speaker 4: know you're not eating?

738
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Speaker 2: There no shelter here.

739
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Speaker 4: I can do my own thing, you know, And I

740
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 4: think sometimes for some parents that's a very very hard

741
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Speaker 4: peel to swallow.

742
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Speaker 1: Ms. Barn seventy two says wait is a source subject

743
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Speaker 1: with me and my family.

744
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Speaker 3: I was always the heaviest in the family.

745
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Speaker 1: In my family, no matter how active I was, my

746
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: grandmother would ask me all the time, how much did

747
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: I weigh? The fail dies, the starving, making myself throw up,

748
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: the self doubt. It was awful. I never have understood

749
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: how people can just comfortably open their mouths and say

750
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: foul shit about someone who's gained weight.

751
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 4: Is disgusting, right, because you don't ever know what they're

752
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Speaker 4: going through.

753
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Speaker 1: You really, Donald, It's just so weird how much people

754
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: think other people's bodies are their business. Like I can

755
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: see even the like I don't like, I don't know.

756
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: It's just so weird because it's like it's like it's

757
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: personally offensive to them to look at someone else. But

758
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: it's like, that's not you. No one's making you do shit.

759
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: So like, if you think the only kind of person

760
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: that you know is acceptable way is a certain amount

761
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: of weight you don't like, then you can date that

762
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: kind of person, you can be that kind of person,

763
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: you can do all this shit. But like put that

764
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: pressure on strangers, on every celebrities, everybody. It's such a

765
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: weird thing to want.

766
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: It's a judgment at the end of the day.

767
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a form of judgment.

768
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Speaker 2: A lot of people do that. They don't even know

769
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: why they do it.

770
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: And some of these people that quote unquote are small

771
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: and picking on you have struggled with the same things

772
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: some of them, A lot of them are just on

773
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: the other side.

774
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: Now.

775
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 4: So now since some of the on the other side,

776
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: I can dish out the pain and a hurt that

777
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 4: was poured upon me because that's quote unquote part of

778
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: the process. Yeah.

779
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: I remember I had a friend he smoked cigarettes, and

780
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: I think I've set it off the show a lot

781
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: of time ago. One of my random thoughts, so I

782
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: was like, fat people and people that smoke, we should

783
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: just be cool with each other. It really is no

784
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: need for either one of us to be judging each other.

785
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, like you want to hell smoke and fuck

786
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: up your lungs. I want to eat loaded, not your

787
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: cheese fries. What the fuck is the problem? Like, let's

788
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: let's kick it, like you know, but but instead, because

789
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: people that smoke a lot of times, smoking can actually

790
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: keep you from gaining weight. So you'll have people that

791
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: look at somebody that's smoke and be like, there's nothing

792
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: wrong with that, because they look the right way, you

793
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean in their minds. Yeah, quote unquote,

794
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: they look the right way. You know. I remember, like

795
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: I hated that she even felt the need to do it,

796
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: But like Lizo put out a video maybe a month

797
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: ago of just a year of these workouts she does

798
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: in her backyard on her deck and shit, and you

799
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: know it's like sped up footage, you know, of the

800
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: like time delay shit, and it's like, yeah, I mean,

801
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: one anyone that's ever seen her perform knows Lizo works out.

802
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: You have to do it. In order to do that

803
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: and still singing.

804
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: And think about right, think about what it is, because

805
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: it's not that she does that once a month. She

806
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: does that ship several times a week, travels between the times.

807
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: Like she clearly was in shape, she just wasn't. She

808
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: didn't look right, quote unquote, and so people that probably

809
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: cannot be in as good shape as her with shitting

810
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: on her because it's like I look different than you,

811
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: therefore you need to listen to my advice or you

812
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: know why you got to wear a bathing So it's like,

813
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: what if somebody like it? Who gives a fuck?

814
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's also one of the thing, like you said,

815
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 4: she's in better shape, it's like, oh, word, could you

816
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: do half the shit she does?

817
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: No?

818
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: Right?

819
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: But she don't. The thing I'm saying is is to me,

820
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: it's a little sad. She shouldn't even have to put

821
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: that video out, you know what I mean, Like it's

822
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: kind of obvious she's an athlete because because look what

823
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: you do and you're entertaining, and who cares how you

824
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: got there? You know, because people make it seem like

825
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: it's out of concern. But you don't love lizz Oh,

826
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: you don't even know it. You know, that's a stranger

827
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: to you. You know, you don't know her any more

828
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: than some stranger walking down the street and you still

829
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: would feel very judgmental about her. So, yeah, wait, is

830
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: such a weird thing. It just triggers people, Monica said.

831
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: And the most triggering thing is if somebody is fat

832
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: and they don't just fucking hate themselves for it.

833
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: I don't know why you love yourself being fat, act

834
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: like something that like it's a mental disease or something.

835
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: I know, I like my body the way it.

836
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Is, especially if it's a black woman, They fucking like

837
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: it's like the devil just jumped up out of them.

838
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: So what the fuck? No, And maybe it's because, you know, historically,

839
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: black women's bodies have been so so they've been owned,

840
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: they've been property, they've been so heavily critiqued. They've been

841
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: demonized for at once not being like a white woman's body,

842
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: but at the same time we praised white women for

843
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: having the figure we attribute to black women. So it's

844
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: just very it's like such a weird thing. So maybe

845
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: that's part of it too, But man, I really hate it,

846
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: Monica says. I found an idea of having public debate

847
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: on TV again intriguing. Those debate programs from the sixties

848
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: and seventies were quite long in duration, and today I

849
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: think they've been replaced with talking heads and sound bites

850
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: on some news networks and maybe the Sunday morning politics shows.

851
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: But these seconds, seconds long back and forth are no

852
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: longer proper debates. They end up being just quotes in

853
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: search of virality. It's only talking, not listening. Yeah, you

854
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: know what I were compared to, It was like, it's

855
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: like we have turned the game of basketball. Like, let's say,

856
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: long form debates used to be like watching a two

857
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: and a half hour game of basketball. As I guess,

858
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: at some point people went, this is born. I don't

859
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: want to see this, blah blah blah. So what happened

860
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: instead is that they said, well, what do you want

861
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: to see? It's like, I like the dunk contest, and

862
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: so we have just turned basketball into the dunk contest.

863
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: And then this is like what happens is if you

864
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: make everything the dunk contest, everything has a lot less substance,

865
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, the tone, the pacing, Like Lebron James is

866
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: no longer the best player in the world. If the basketball,

867
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: if they tired game of basketball is just a dunk contest,

868
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: then then we're like, yeah, Vince Carter is the greatest

869
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: basketball player to ever play. Michael Jordan is up there.

870
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: But he ain't.

871
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: He ain't the top no more. You know that kind

872
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: of thing. That's what it feels like. We did to

873
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: public discourse where it's like, okay, but how can we

874
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: turn this into a thirty second clip back and forth

875
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: dunk contest where at the end of it we go, oh,

876
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: Donald lemon zinged him, and that has replaced what we

877
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: used to have public debate.

878
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 2: Correct.

879
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: Someone sent me a link to a podcast. It was

880
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: like the dark Horse Podcast, and it had all these

881
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: black academics, this round table quote unquote talking about the

882
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: race problem. It was two hours long. The only problem

883
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: was I thought it had too many people on. It

884
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: had like six or seven different people talking when it

885
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: should have had about two or three. But the point

886
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: being it was a it was a rigorous discussion that

887
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really agree with a lot of it,

888
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: or you know, because it had certain conservative type leaning

889
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: black people. You know, when you're talking academics, it's really

890
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: for aloof. It's very aloof. They're very distant from the problem.

891
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: That's not they don't really see the humanity and the problem.

892
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: They might cherry pick a couple of anecdotal examples. But

893
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: they don't really see the people as human. They see

894
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: this is a problem to have things prescribed to it, right,

895
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: And I'm listening to them and whatnot and it. But

896
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: but there was something about it where I listened to

897
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: the whole two hours because I was like, oh cool,

898
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: a long form discussion on a long form problem. You know,

899
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to see you try to wrap up

900
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: race in ten minutes. It's never gonna be able to

901
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to touch it in any

902
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, in any way that actually is tangible. Agreed,

903
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, we do. We no longer have the attention

904
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: span for watching long in depth discussions, not on network

905
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: TV television, but the a podcast in digital presentation that workshops,

906
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: especially during the pandemic, lets we know people will show

907
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: up for listening. There's a company called Intelligence Square that

908
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: has been hosting live debates all over the world since

909
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. Okay, I didn't know about that.

910
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: They post all their debates on their YouTube channel. They

911
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: even have some virtual ones on there. Now. I always

912
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: wanted to go on there. They were usually hosted at NYU,

913
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: but I never got to go. You reminded me of them.

914
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: Public debates still remain kind of a niche event. That

915
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: makes sense, Yeah, I mean that's the thing is, I

916
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: don't know that the public debate is ever gonna be

917
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: better TV than The Bachelor, you know, like for what

918
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: TV is trying to do and what a debate is

919
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: trying to do, Like the goal is to get you

920
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: to watch between commercials. Whether or not this dude is

921
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: gonna cheat or have some racist tweets or whatever, is

922
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: much more compelling than sitting down and watching Tita HOOSEI

923
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: coach and that mcwater mcchorter dude go back and forth

924
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: about race. Most people are gonna tap out, So I

925
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: get it. Kyle Quero knee exactly. Oh okay, so Evie says,

926
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: Kylequerrol knew exactly what he was doing. He just didn't

927
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: expect the backlash. He is trash for that. I don't

928
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: even remember who Kyle Carol is. Now you remember who

929
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: that was?

930
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: You know?

931
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't, Man, it's been Oh it was the dude

932
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: talking about Jill Scott. Yeah, ain't got some shit. He

933
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: pissed the all internet off three days later, I'm like,

934
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: who the fuck who? And he played football, and I

935
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: don't know who he is. You know, I'm always you know,

936
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: my answer is who he gotta get better at football

937
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: for me to keep up.

938
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 3: Would you like to see a return of public debate

939
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 3: on TV?

940
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: Yes?

941
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 7: No?

942
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: Or I don't care either way?

943
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: Care, I don't care, all right, Karen's in the thirty percent.

944
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm in the yes category, So fifty five percent of

945
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: people want to see it and fifteen percent say no.

946
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: And I would like to see Maybe Netflix could just

947
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: do it or something like, I just want to see it, man, Like,

948
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if there's an audience for this shit.

949
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. MS Bond says absolutely. Social media has

950
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: got folks so complacent to say any crazy thing behind

951
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: the keyboard. If there was a face to face discussion,

952
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: I promise it would change the course of the conversation.

953
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think so too. I think

954
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: also some of these ideas they fall flat upon rigorous

955
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: examination or when you start asking for long form discussions.

956
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's a very telling thing about these

957
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: ideas and how how unsolvable some problems are, but also how.

958
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: Bombastic people talk online when they when.

959
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: They really know The reason they can say that is

960
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: because they don't have to have a solution, they don't

961
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: have to have a reality. They can just throw it

962
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: out in the theory and the etherol space of social

963
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: media or the internet and just walk away like, yeah,

964
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: what about it?

965
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 2: Explain no depth, no critical thinking.

966
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I would love to see some of the

967
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: stuff have to be fleshed out and for you to

968
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: and for if you don't have an answer, for us

969
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: to see it and be like, oh, okay, they don't

970
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: have an answer beyond this, you know, to have someone

971
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: because it's different in an interview where the interviewer is

972
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: trying to help you. You know, I do interviews on

973
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: our show. I'm always trying to help the person I'm

974
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: an interviewing. I'm I don't really do hostile interviews. So

975
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: if they seem like they don't got an answer to that,

976
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: all right, cool, we gotta move on. You know, I'm

977
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: not gonna stop you and be like, well I need

978
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: you to figure this out, right. So, but in the debate,

979
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: it's the opposite your your opponent in that debate, the

980
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: person on the stage is is gonna try to be like, hey,

981
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: this is the weakness in your argument, you know, like

982
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: you gotta fashion something out of that. So anyway, twenty

983
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: one forty, Reagan returns Our Girl, Reagan Go Mass came

984
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: back on. Yes she did, you know, come through Reagan

985
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: go Mas or begging go Mass? Is I like to

986
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: call her? But yeah, we had a great conversation with her.

987
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: We got some Commentsan News says, I think Karen's words

988
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: will help me a lot in the future, dividing my

989
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: expectations of marriage from reality and realizing film tropes aren't

990
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: real life. It was definitely a wake up call. I

991
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: didn't even realize that every marriage is different until I

992
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: heard her say that, which is absolutely insane. Anyways, thanks

993
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: for the common sense, Supreme Karen.

994
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

995
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so weird because.

996
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: I learned that the hard way, like like like I

997
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 4: don't me as being a woman. It is amazing how

998
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 4: many women get, particularly newly wed women, particularly when they

999
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 4: get younger, get married and just do ridiculous shit because it's.

1000
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: The way you thought it was gonna be.

1001
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like my mama, if my mama would

1002
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 4: stay at home wife. You know, sometimes some women go

1003
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: that route because that's the way they think they supposed

1004
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 4: to do. They think if their mama worked from home

1005
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 4: and cook them clean and took care of the children,

1006
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: you know why the husband billy did nothing. They'll take

1007
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 4: on that trope. It's like instead of trying to figure

1008
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 4: out what works best for you and your mate. You know,

1009
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: I've seen even some family members where you know, they're

1010
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 4: they're having this burden and they're going through this stuff

1011
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 4: and they actually got to make the cares and it's

1012
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 4: very I don't know what's happening over here.

1013
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: My coempeter went down.

1014
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: Oh okay, no, your light went off over there and everything. Okay,

1015
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: go ahead, the sound is still on.

1016
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you send me.

1017
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1018
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: Where you know, they have you know, a make you know,

1019
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 4: make the cares about them and that will be willing

1020
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 4: to do more. But they just have to be vocal

1021
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: and demand and actually just ask, like you know, and

1022
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: sometimes women are afraid to ax men for help because

1023
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: they don't know how the man is going to respond

1024
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 4: a lot of times either. And so you know, most

1025
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 4: good men, loving men and kind men, especially if they

1026
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 4: left their mouth, actually want to help with the kids.

1027
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: They actually want to help. And some women, you have

1028
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 2: this thing on my.

1029
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: MoMA always did it, and so you have this pride

1030
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 4: sometimes as a woman is if I don't cook and

1031
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 4: clean and take care of my kid, if I don't

1032
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 4: do this, I have failed as a woman.

1033
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: And that's not true.

1034
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: You're fucking exhausted, and then we and your mate wants

1035
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 4: still want to be intimate with you.

1036
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: You're tired because you're you know, you've been working for.

1037
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 4: Like fourteen hours, fifteen hours, twenty hours, go to bed

1038
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 4: and you just want to sleep. You don't want to

1039
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 4: actually be intimate with your mate. But being intimate with

1040
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 4: your mate is a part of the relationship too.

1041
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, And men have a checklist in their head too,

1042
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: from all this bullshit expectations and stuff we've been taught.

1043
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: So you end up with men that think, you know,

1044
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: marriage is just about sexual performance, it's just about how much.

1045
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, let me pause this. So yeah,

1046
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: men believe in gender roles and stuff like that too,

1047
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of times it ends up

1048
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: being destructive to the household because you end up with

1049
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: man tying their egos and stuff like how much money

1050
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: they bring into the house. Materialistic shit, what kind of

1051
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: having a job, what kind of job? You know, all

1052
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: these physical attributes and being emotionally distant and all this

1053
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: different stuff, and you know, just I'm just gonna watch

1054
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: football in the man cave and you know, the keep

1055
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: these damn kids out of my way. And it all

1056
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: hurts uh men in these situations, and it's it's mostly

1057
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: harm you're inflicting on yourself. And I think also it

1058
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: teaches women don't stand up, just do just do the work,

1059
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: just do this, do the you know, a good woman

1060
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: would do blank And these these weird archetypes that are

1061
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: based on white supremacist, patriarchal capitalist ideals.

1062
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: That's been happening since we were fucking like.

1063
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: You know, since slavery and shit, where a white man

1064
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: earned all the money, his wife was expected to fucking

1065
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: do all the shit in the house because that's how

1066
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: much white men used to make at the time, and

1067
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: white men were the only ones that could have jobs

1068
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: and all this shit, and then just the world change

1069
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: where two people in the household don't have jobs, they're

1070
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: probably not doing too well. You know, where childcare is

1071
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: more than a woman's job. It's the only it's not

1072
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: the only thing she's responsible for anymore. So you just

1073
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: end up with all these different situations that people still

1074
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: want to treat like the old school situation. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's why you have people that think marriage is

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00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: still you know that they keep trying to make it,

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Speaker 1: keep trying to turn it back into that, and that's

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00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: what happens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And also I am thankful for people fighting to

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Speaker 4: change the definition of marriage.

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Speaker 2: I'm just keep that.

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00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 4: Really, I'm here for people saying no, no, no, this

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00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 4: normal shit is not a marriage.

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00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: Like marriage has all types of definitions. Marriage has all

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00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 2: types of.

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00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: Meanings, not even just marriage like relationships like it's also

1087
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: like it reminds me of the book Conflict Is Not Abuse,

1088
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: And she talks about one of the mistakes she thinks

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00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: that a lot of LGBTQ people made when pushing for

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00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: a marriage quality is that it then reframed a lot

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00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: of LGBTQ relationships that had broken the mold of patriarchy,

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00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: that had broken the mold of monogamy, broken the mode

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00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: of you know, marriage, and it turned people into like,

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00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: it's not respectable if it doesn't turn into man woman

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00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: or or man man or woman woman or trans person

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00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 1: like one person, one person, monogamous relationship is the goal,

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00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: and so the limits of the definition of marriage fucked

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Speaker 1: it up for in her mind, like this now has

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00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: pushed us back. It's some like, yes, we should be

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00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: had a right to get married all that stuff, but

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00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: also in the right to get married, we turned into

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: the pursuit to get married. And once it turned into

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00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: the pursuit to get married, is marriage actually a happy

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00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: making initiative for everybody? Is this a thing for everyone

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00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: to want? And I mean, it's just deep questions like that.

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00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: And as Cheyenne new said, you know, Karen said, every

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00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: marriage is different, and I think that's true, Like every

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00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: person is different, So how can two people have the

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00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: same relationship as two different people? That doesn't even make sense.

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Speaker 4: So because everybody, you and your your significant other, spouse

1111
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: or a group of people all have different life experiences

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00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 4: than your parents. You live raised in different generations, so

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00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 4: your expectations and what you think that your partner partner

1114
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 4: should be and like, like the definitions have changed, So

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00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 4: why would you.

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00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: Expect to have the exact same marriage as somebody else?

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00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: And it's because we get taught this shit, because we

1118
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: all get taught the same fairy tales and we think

1119
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: that that's right. And then and then we punish ourselves

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Speaker 1: and make ourselves feel like failures for not living up

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00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: to this. You know, if you get divorced, you don't

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00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: if you have a child and you're not married, if

1123
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: you have a child and he leaves, if ever, Like,

1124
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: it's just all these different things. It's like, that doesn't

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00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: make sense. Everybody's life is fucking different. No, it's not

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00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: gonna flow together in this perfect harmony of foreverness for

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00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: two people forever. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: Also, the thing is, quote I'm gonna say quote unquote,

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Speaker 4: even if it's something where the roles reverse, where the

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00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 4: woman actually makes more money than the man, the woman

1132
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 4: actually works outside of the house, the man is at

1133
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 4: home all of a sudden, and he's less than a math.

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Speaker 1: Right. Yes, all these weird, just weird shit that don't

1135
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with it, just like Lizzo's body and

1136
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: all this stuff. It doesn't really have much to do

1137
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: with other people, but we keep in certain ourselves. That's

1138
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: why people got so obsessed with Will and Jada is

1139
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: because we want to peek into their life to see

1140
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: what it says about our own. Ms. Barnes says, one

1141
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: of the many beautiful things about this podcast are the

1142
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: guests that you bring, mainly because I learned something new

1143
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: every time. Sadly, I had no idea who Reagan Gomez was,

1144
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: but if she was talking, I was thinking to myself, Damn,

1145
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 1: she sounds so much like Roberta from the Cleveland Show.

1146
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm subscribing to a podcast at adding Queen Sugar to

1147
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: my watch list. Thank you again for highlighting talented folks

1148
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: like Reagan. Absolutely big fan. Yes, Trey says, Hey, Rod

1149
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: and Karen, thank you so much for having Reagan on.

1150
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: She was such a great guest and a breath of

1151
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: fresh air Hashtagsaria Peterson have. I feel for her and

1152
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: every parent and teacher out there deciding on whether or

1153
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: not to send their kids back to school. I don't

1154
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: even have and it has my nerves bad lol. Hopefully

1155
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: parents will do what they need to do to keep

1156
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: their kids safe. We can only hope. On Will and Jado, Jada.

1157
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: On Will and Jada, kudos to them for being open

1158
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: in eyes about their relationship. I'm still shocked that they

1159
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: were willing to be that open about their relationship because

1160
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: they could have easily ignored it. A lot about it, Yeah,

1161
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: and that's you know, and honestly, just depends on what

1162
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: you're projecting, because none of us know the truth. Some

1163
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: people think they did get up there and lie, So

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01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't even you know, I don't even know that

1165
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: they told the truth of it. I know how it

1166
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: felt to me and the way that I'm projecting on

1167
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: the shit, but I'm smart enough to know I don't

1168
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: know what the fuck.

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01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: Is going on, and yeah, nobody does.

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but see that's the thing a lot of people

1171
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: think they do. It's why I don't really like discussing

1172
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: it with people, because they really will sit up there

1173
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: and tell you as if you fucking are insane and

1174
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: just came up with these theories. It's like we're all

1175
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: coming up with theories. None of us know shit, you know. Anyway,

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01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: it definitely seems like they took the time to sit

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01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: down one another and really define what they know their

1178
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: relationship is. That is very powerful when you think about it.

1179
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: In the end, it seems they grew from it emotionally,

1180
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: So again, kudos to them. Yeah, man, like I said,

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01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: I do, at least from what they told me, what

1182
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: they told the world, it seemed to me like more

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01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: believable than this alternative where they have open relationship with

1184
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: all these nbas and that no one's ever snitched.

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 4: Because I think if that was maybe, like I said,

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01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: this is me checked, and I think if that was

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01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 4: the truth, they would they would have came out and

1188
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 4: said that.

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01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: I just think it's easy. I think it's an easier

1190
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: sale when everyone already thinks it correct because there's no like, honestly,

1191
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: people would almost be bored if they would have came

1192
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: out and said, we're just in an open relationship, y'all,

1193
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: this is just one of the one of our jump

1194
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: if was just acting stupid back and North, yeah, everybody

1195
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: would be like, well, that's what we've been said now,

1196
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: you know. But I think in a weird way, it's

1197
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: disappointing the people because they built them up. It's just like,

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01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: this is how you run an open relationship. No one

1199
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: ever knows their business. They've been going around fucking and

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01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: sucking everybody and it's just as quiet as kept And

1201
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: when that didn't happen, it's like, well, damn, I've been

1202
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: saying that this is what open relationships look like. And

1203
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: these are two of the most well liked, beautiful people

1204
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and they just said it was some quasi

1205
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: cheating type shit. Well then fucked them. You know. So

1206
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't, like I said, I don't put a lot

1207
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: of hope and faith and celebrity anyway.

1208
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: But it just all feels like we're projecting.

1209
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I know anything more about them than

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01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: what they said in the interview. You know, and I

1211
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: watched the interview. I watched the whole thing, so you know,

1212
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: it just I still didn't walk away, like and now

1213
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: I figured it out. I'm just like, I don't know,

1214
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: Maybe they telling the truth. Finally, I hope Reagan gets

1215
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: to direct more TV series. I remember her talking on

1216
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: Twitter about shadowing the legendary director Julia Julie Dash on

1217
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: The Queen Sugar set her show idea, she mentioned sounds dope.

1218
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: I could definitely see it on free Form or the

1219
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: c W. Hope it gets greenlit as say peace, thanks again,

1220
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: Rod or Karen trace wwain, dude, thank you, thank you?

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Speaker 3: The Poe was which was your favorite?

1222
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: Okay? Girlfriends Moesha sister sister, that's so raven, the Parkers

1223
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: or living single.

1224
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: Karen girl friends?

1225
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 1: Girlfriends is Karen's favorite? Out of all those? You said?

1226
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: Girlfriend?

1227
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: Girlfriends? Moesha Sister Sister, that's so raven, The Parkers or

1228
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 1: Living Single.

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: Living Single?

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01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, sixty three percent of the audience says living Single,

1231
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: and I'm with that sixty three percent. I think of

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01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: my favorite that was that the Living Single was my

1233
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: my favorite. Uh. And those are just the ones I

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01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: could show as I could think about the top of

1235
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: my head that were led by black women specifically.

1236
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 4: Yes, and I've watched some of the other ones, and

1237
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 4: I enjoyed some of those ones. But if I had

1238
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 4: to really think, out of that group, the one that

1239
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: I actually watched the most and now watched some of

1240
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 4: those other ones all, but some of the other ones

1241
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 4: more than others because it was just something about Living

1242
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 4: Single that just I just love that series.

1243
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kim Doc says if only we could relive this

1244
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: era television all over again, truly innovative thinkers that even

1245
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: inspire whites to knock off their concepts haha uh, and

1246
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: says the only option that is living Single. Yeah, it's

1247
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: just interesting because I don't maybe now we're starting to

1248
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: have that look at this multiple shows about black women

1249
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: that how black women leads, Like now, I think we're there,

1250
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: you know. But the thing is They're not sit commy.

1251
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: It's more like drama and HBO and free form and

1252
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But I am glad that that era

1253
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: is coming back is just different. You know, nothing never

1254
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: repeats itself, so you know, I'm glad that it's coming

1255
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: back though, that we have this time. All right, let's

1256
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: get to you the last episode of the week, No

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01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: Shame Day twenty one forty one with our girl bossy

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Speaker 1: Ick p. Yes, Jail Covan says, love the discussion on

1259
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: Hillary versus Biden. I'm fine with Biden, of course, and

1260
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: like that he basically adopted Jay Insley's climate plan. But

1261
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: the fact that people still write to me on social

1262
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: media saying I couldn't vote for Hillary, but I would

1263
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: gladly vote for Biden. She was just flawed, like they

1264
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: are heroes and not either sexist or assholes will never

1265
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: stop annoying me. Right, And if Jail Covan is calling

1266
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: you a sexist, set.

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 4: Jail points you out. Come on, bad, buddy, that's bad,

1268
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 4: Come on, buddy.

1269
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: Come on.

1270
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: Also, Eric Holder's wife was the doctor who delivered both

1271
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: both of my nephews. Oh damn, small world, and then

1272
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: Eric Holder locked them up because it was born in DC.

1273
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: Not just kidding, rob One says at some point as

1274
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: a community, we're going to have to address anti Semitism.

1275
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: The Nick Cannon and Deshaun Jackson incidents made me think

1276
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: back to late twenty nineteen when a couple of hebrew

1277
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: Is a light in New Jersey shot and killed some

1278
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: Jewish people in a grocery store. Yes, I think we

1279
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: might even did that on guess the race, and we

1280
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: were like, they was black. They don't even sound like

1281
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: a black crime. And then it's like, oh, you read

1282
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: up later, you know, like a week or so later,

1283
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: because you know, it takes a lot to investigate these things.

1284
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: And once the investigative journalism came out, it's like, oh,

1285
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: these niggas, we was some Hebrew It's alights. They got

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Speaker 1: a hold of some guns and went to kill some

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Speaker 1: Jewish people. And I immediately was like, yes, I remember

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01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: five percenters in my college and they were definitely anti Semitic,

1289
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't like this shit the black people.

1290
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 4: I really understood what the word mean at the time.

1291
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 4: I was just like, that don't sound right.

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01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like this shit black people trying to

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01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: do with the semantics are like we can't be racist

1294
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: because we don't have power. Look, man, if you're killing

1295
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: Jewish people, if you're talking shit about Jewish people in

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: an environment where they're being killed at hate crimes, you

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01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: do have power. I'm sick of this ship when we

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01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: opt out man, whereas you know, yeah, we get to

1299
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: we get to track in transphobia, but then we say black.

1300
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: Then when some black trans uh trans woman dies uh,

1301
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: we're all sharing all these things on the timeline.

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 2: This is so sad.

1303
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 3: The twenty seventh one this year, blah blah.

1304
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: Well, you're adding to this environment when you're when you

1305
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: don't speak out against it, when you don't say, hey,

1306
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: this is fucked up, when you don't technoledge take time

1307
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: out to be like, I'm not gonna do this. I'm

1308
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: not gonna joke about you know how, I'm not gonna

1309
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: respect your pronouns. I'm not gonna joke about you. You

1310
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: a man and all that shit. When you start thinking

1311
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: on that level, I think that's one of the ways

1312
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: you can aid and stopping it. But I think when

1313
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: you just go, well, fuck it, I ain't got nothing

1314
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: to do with it. But oh, it's so sad they

1315
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: killed this putt like like to meet us very hypocritical

1316
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: and I and I uh, And the way I communicate

1317
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: with stuff like this and relate to it is always

1318
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: through race.

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01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: As a black person, I.

1320
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: Don't like and don't want and would not support listening

1321
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: to some white person make jokes about George Floyd's death.

1322
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. You know, if they were just

1323
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: making jokes about, yeah he got killed, ha haa haa,

1324
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: it wasn't it hilarious, I would not fuck with them

1325
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: because this is a real thing to me. This is

1326
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: something that is happening a lot in America, you know.

1327
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: And so I'm like when you when I when these

1328
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: things affect me emotionally, No, I don't want to see

1329
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: it be fotter for a joke because it's it's it's

1330
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: not a joke to me in that type of way,

1331
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: because it's still a real problem. And I feel like

1332
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: the attitude of belittling it, normalizing it adds to the

1333
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: thing happening that's you know. That's so that's why people

1334
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: say stuff like you can't joke about blank, blank and blank.

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01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 1: What they're really saying is don't trivialize it. It doesn't

1336
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: really mean you can't joke about it. You come up

1337
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: with a good enough joke, shit, people gonna laugh even

1338
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: if it's wrong.

1339
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: People will laugh if the joke is good enough.

1340
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: But to trivialize something is where people start feeling like, well, damn,

1341
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 1: what is the point here? You know. It's the difference

1342
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: between Dave Chappelle's first special when he came on Netflix

1343
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: and he made a couple transphobic jokes, mostly about Caitlyn

1344
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: Jenner and all this shit, but then the last not

1345
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: the eight forty six, but the one before that, where

1346
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: it was just mean and it was just like, you know,

1347
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: twenty thirty minutes of just transphobic material because he had

1348
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: become so fucking like, I don't know, triggered by people

1349
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: not liking that he did it, that he wanted to

1350
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 1: like prove some type of point. It's the difference between

1351
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: those two things. I think when it comes to this,

1352
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: oh you about to say something, okay, So yeah, anyway,

1353
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: all that stuff to say, the anti semitism shit, it's

1354
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: not even jokes. And I think we as black people,

1355
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: it's just it's whack to see black people hide behind

1356
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: being black as a reason that this is okay.

1357
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 4: Come on you wouldn't you would tolerate that with white people.

1358
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 4: We are not We're not we are not a special

1359
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 4: group just because we've been oppressed, mode of right.

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01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: It's just whack. It's like, because we can't prove that

1361
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: this is a thing that black people are exerting force

1362
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: on Jewish people with that somehow that's okay. You know,

1363
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: it's the the u. This is the thing that people

1364
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: always defend Louis Farrakhn with and I'm always like, nah,

1365
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: you can't. Then you not about it, then stop judging people,

1366
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: don't look down on nobody, because because if you're like

1367
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 1: upholding Louis Farrakhn and saying, let's just forget about the transphobia,

1368
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: let's forget about the missogyny, let's forget about the homophobia,

1369
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: let's forget about the anti semitism. Isn't he a good guy?

1370
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: It's like, nah, because you don't accept that from nobody else,

1371
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: and you damn show and then they go, well, I

1372
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: mean it's not like he got a lot of power,

1373
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: so it's not like he can do anything. It's like

1374
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: that doesn't make it okay, right, because if we're really

1375
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: being real, the average white person don't have a lot

1376
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: of power. And y'all want a motherfucker to go to

1377
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: jail for calling the police on a nigga because you

1378
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: want her to put her dog up. Like, let's not

1379
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: add like it's a power thing. It's just some shit

1380
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: is abhorrent and we don't fuck with it. So, you know,

1381
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 1: I think we need to we need to be vigilant

1382
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: about that, you know, or at least at least don't

1383
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: let people hide behind being black based off of it.

1384
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't care if you know, we're not gonna make

1385
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: Hotep stop whole tepping. I'm not stupid. No, you know

1386
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: that people keep doing this thing where they go, well,

1387
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: we just like make, you know, come down on them,

1388
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: telling they wrong. They don't care. Nick Cannon didn't care

1389
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: until some motherfucking money got missing. So it ain't that.

1390
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: Ain't ain't just that. But it's just for your own sake,

1391
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: for your own soul, Like, let not denounce that shit.

1392
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: And if you not hip on what anti semitism is,

1393
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: look it up. There's all these resources, there's all these

1394
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: people to putting threads on the timelines and medium articles

1395
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: and shit on why exactly what Nick Cannon said was

1396
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: fucked up, all right, But you're right they did kill

1397
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: those Jewish people. I forgot about that. I've always start

1398
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: of them as just some French group that no one

1399
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: really listens to is but it's obvious that there's some

1400
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: of the that some of their messaging are becoming mainstream

1401
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: and when people with celebrity started giving credence to it,

1402
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: we can't just laugh it off anymore. It was good

1403
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: hearing Box on the non recap episode. Thanks Rob, And yeah,

1404
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't once the shit started getting dangerous

1405
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: like this, you cannot, man, these I'm I'm telling you.

1406
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: It's a weird kind of anti blackness to the fact

1407
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: that they let these dudes revelingness kind of shit. It's

1408
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: a weird kind of like, well they niggas. They that's

1409
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: what they do, and it's like they would not accept

1410
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: this of some white dude. If this was Chris Himsworth,

1411
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: they would been like, what the fuck are you doing?

1412
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: You have to stop that immediately, you know. I think,

1413
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I think Chris Hillsworth did have a

1414
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: picture at a party where people were like dressing it

1415
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: was either in Nazi regalia or American Native American stuff

1416
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: or something and they roasted his ass when he was

1417
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: apologized and never did it again like this, that's what

1418
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: you gotta do, is you know. But I guess if

1419
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: you're black, you can hide into defiance of Wow, they

1420
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: trying to make a black man sit down, Like, no, man,

1421
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: just don't do this wrong. But yeah, it's just a

1422
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: double standard. Trace win Due says, so glad you guys

1423
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: had BOSSI on the regular show. She's always a bright

1424
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: light for me in the face of this dreadful darkness.

1425
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: I always wanted to thank BOSSI because her being so

1426
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: open about her own mental health journey, in turn, has

1427
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: helped me be me with my own and dealing with

1428
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: anxiety and depression by seeing someone with the same complexion

1429
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: as you go through that and talk about black mental

1430
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: health really matters and really health. Thanks for everything you do, ROSSI.

1431
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: Thanks again, I mean bossing, Thanks again, BOSSI cared and

1432
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: rod Trey Eve. He says, I'm not sure why anyone

1433
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: is surprised Christian Cooper refuses to further participate with the

1434
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: prosecution of Amy Cooper. I kind of peep how he

1435
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 1: was when he ended the recording as soon as she

1436
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: leased her dog. That brother just loves and and wants

1437
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: to mind his business. Now, does this bitch deserve to

1438
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: be prosecuted, of course, but it's not up to us

1439
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: to tell Christian how you should handle things. Even that's

1440
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,879
Speaker 1: exactly what the fuck I believe right there.

1441
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 2: And that's been my pushback towards everybody.

1442
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 4: Not that she shouldn't be punished, not that that shouldn't

1443
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 4: be the cop consequence of repercussions, but he has the

1444
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 4: right to feel however he wants to feel, if he

1445
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 4: don't want to be your freedom frighter here and got

1446
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 4: to be your goddamn freedom fighter, and he has the

1447
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 4: right and choice of the autonomy over his body. Because

1448
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 4: we're quick to be like, well, give people freedom, black

1449
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 4: people freedoms and right this is part of that freedoms

1450
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 4: and right shit did y'all talk about.

1451
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 2: But people are just mad.

1452
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,440
Speaker 4: Because it's not coming out in the form of revenge,

1453
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 4: and since it's not coming out of from a revenge,

1454
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 4: you act like what he's doing, what he does and

1455
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 4: how he feels doesn't matter. If I'm the victim, you know,

1456
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 4: I get to determine how I respond to it. But

1457
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 4: it does not mean that I want to participate in

1458
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 4: the punishment process. You know, I can allow the punishment

1459
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 4: process to go on without me actually being in it.

1460
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 4: If they feel like they have enough evidence and they

1461
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 4: feel like they can go forth, so be it.

1462
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 2: But it's not my job to tell him how.

1463
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 4: He is supposed to feel and what he is supposed

1464
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 4: to do just because I'm mad.

1465
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: The part that's really weird to me with him is

1466
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: he didn't forgive her, but people are treating it like

1467
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: he's some like, look at him just forgiving a white woman.

1468
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: He never did. He just was like, I'm done with this.

1469
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: Like his whole thing was he want to watch birds

1470
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: in the park. I don't know how this got so

1471
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 1: complicated for people just because he won't fit the agenda.

1472
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 3: He don't want to do all this never did.

1473
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and in my opinion, I've always felt like this

1474
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 4: everything that has happened.

1475
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: So far, a lot of shit's been against his will.

1476
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: He didn't even record.

1477
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: His sister recorded.

1478
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 2: He didn't want to put out his sister put it

1479
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: on it. So it's like from the beginning he's been.

1480
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 4: Telling y'all like, this ain't me. I'm not about this life,

1481
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 4: and everybody's like, well, since we out here, we gonna

1482
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 4: dictate and tell you what you've No. He sends that

1483
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 4: no from the beginning, so no, one's not surprising, not

1484
01:15:58,680 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 4: trying to be funny.

1485
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: Then he's like, I don't want to go through the process.

1486
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also weird the way people work, because.

1487
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: If this would have been like someone else having a

1488
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: film put out about them against that will, we were like,

1489
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: what about their right to not be They didn't want

1490
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: that to happen. But because we lust, we're right now

1491
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: in a super bloodlust for white people fucking up. You know,

1492
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: these caarings and all this shit. We're in such a

1493
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: bloodlust right now. We don't we actually don't care about

1494
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: the black people involved, like we care about us having

1495
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: our bloodlusts, say that more than we care about them

1496
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: being centered in this conversation and what they want out

1497
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: of shit. This is all about us. And you know,

1498
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: if you if you talk about that and get to

1499
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: that point, people want to dismiss it. But that's the truth.

1500
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: As I said, the poe was who who is all right?

1501
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: I meant I typed this all wrong? I mean, who

1502
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: is the best of these black men? Who is the

1503
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: of these best black men? I don't know who is

1504
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 1: here's your choices. Who is the of these best black men? Karen, Okay,

1505
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: are you ready? Yes, Terry Crews, Kanye West, Nick Cannon, Christian.

1506
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: Cooper, Andkrid your Cooper to what we just talked about.

1507
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right. Two percent say Terry Crews, two

1508
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: percent say Kanye West. So it's glad to know that

1509
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: they listened to the show set out to you for

1510
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: being truthful. Yeah, one vote, so I'm assuming that was

1511
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: Kanye West and Terry Crews. Nick Cannon actually got fourteen

1512
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: percent because Nick Cannon is hilarious. Dave Chpelle tried to

1513
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: tell us and eighty one percent of people said Christian Cooper.

1514
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: Not a lot of comments. Kim Doc says, I click

1515
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: Christian Cooper without even thinking. Glad, seventy plus percent of

1516
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: us are on the same wave lift. We need better

1517
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 1: leaders or to elevate Apple five voices over to lives

1518
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: and the Chances and Terry's and Stephen Jackson's waterways laying Yeah,

1519
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: I forgot about I keep forgetting about to little quality.

1520
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: I think I have had that dude muted on Twitter

1521
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 1: since I've been on Twitter, Like it's like this shit

1522
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: didn't even happen like I don't see it, Like I

1523
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: keep seeing articles about it. I'm be like, damn, it's

1524
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:22,440
Speaker 1: still going. Wow, that's crazy. Everybody ain't blocked him yet, Okay, yeah,

1525
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: Like and then people keep adding him, so he keep

1526
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: going like it's but seece that other thing too, where

1527
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: people on Twitter don't want to admit it. They love

1528
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 1: this of course a celebrity. It's giving them attention and

1529
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: and and and he's doing it all day, every day,

1530
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 1: and so everyone's getting in their shots and they keep

1531
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: saying shit that. I'm like, y'all know that's not gonna

1532
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: stop him. They're like, why can't his homeboys call him in?

1533
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what about ten days in a row of

1534
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 1: talking to people? It is gonna make you think today's

1535
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: the day that most death can make him stop. He's

1536
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: not gonna stop. He's a grown and he got money

1537
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: and he don't got nothing to do. He's gonna be

1538
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: doing this as long as y'all keep talking. That's it.

1539
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this.

1540
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: With other so I guess we're gonna be at this

1541
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 2: for a while.

1542
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just keep acting like fucking punchline and words

1543
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: warfare is gonna come out of the damn U, come

1544
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: out of Rockin's records, come out of the lyricist lounge

1545
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: and shut this down. God damn, that's a deep pull.

1546
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: You got to know some hip hop to know what

1547
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: the fuck I'm talking about right now, Boy, you got

1548
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: to get a backpack out it gets some CDs and

1549
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: know what the fuck I was just that reference. But yeah,

1550
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: they're not about to do shit. So they're like, why

1551
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: can't black men call him in like and do what? Like, Hey, Tyler,

1552
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: could you stop now? He at me? Goddamn. Now I

1553
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: can't go to sleep like this. Everyone just gotta like

1554
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: just do a mask Twitter mute. Okay, all right, all right,

1555
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 1: let's get to voicemails. We got a few this week.

1556
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to Kim Dyck's voicemail. She

1557
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: says she left one like a couple of weeks ago.

1558
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 1: It just never showed up in the sky.

1559
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:08,919
Speaker 2: Baby, We don't know what happened.

1560
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So here's the first one.

1561
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 8: Hi, Ryan Karon, this is Peaches seven four nine, Sweet Peach.

1562
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 9: Seven four nine.

1563
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 8: So I'm listening to the episode two, one, three.

1564
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: Eight, brilliant, hilarious, engaging, authentic, and.

1565
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 9: Here y'all go talking about these grits again.

1566
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: Now, I am a true salt and butter grits woman, Okay,

1567
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: born and raised. I've never want tasty grits with sugar

1568
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: an but I've heard about this over and over and

1569
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: over again. So I would like a person who cooks

1570
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: these sugar grits on a regular basis and consumes them.

1571
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: I would like this person to prepare these grits and

1572
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: let us have a taste test because it could be good.

1573
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean not to be a traded to my falt

1574
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: grit people at my salt grit time, but it could

1575
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: be good.

1576
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 9: It is just a breakfast cereal, you know, like Fororena

1577
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 9: and wheat Tina and.

1578
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: Those type things. Alright, I said, have a good day,

1579
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: talk to y'all later. Not gonna fool me. Peaches, nice try,

1580
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: But I know a Trump supporter when I hear coming

1581
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: in like a friend. Peaches and Silk, Im not gonna.

1582
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 1: Oh we just these girls, I'll tell you boy, they

1583
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 1: try to infiltrate these grits, these sugar gritses.

1584
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,480
Speaker 3: They not slip see them coming from everybody.

1585
01:21:55,520 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 8: This is kem Doc also known as and and first

1586
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 8: time caller, long time listener, out this bitch moman didiot.

1587
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 8: I just wanted to call in and leave.

1588
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: You all a voice. I listened to.

1589
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 8: The Medium or was now the four movie? There we

1590
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 8: go on Parasite. Now I had been watched. I started

1591
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 8: watching it at the beginning of Social Isolation, and then

1592
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 8: something happened. I think I might have started watching it

1593
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 8: too late, and I paused it in like the moment

1594
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 8: when it had just started, like really getting into the

1595
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 8: second part of the movie. And so I was like,

1596
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 8: all right, as soon as I finished this, I'm going

1597
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 8: to check in and see if Rod and Karen had

1598
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 8: done a review of it, And so you guys did.

1599
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 8: First of all, I really liked the movie. I mean,

1600
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna say that there's something I will watch again,

1601
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 8: but I probably would. Now also watched Frozen, and I

1602
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 8: felt lied too, And this is why Niggas was telling

1603
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 8: me Frozen is the best thing since since Slice Bread.

1604
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 8: Oh my god, Elsa. Everybody dressed enough as Elsa for Halloween.

1605
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 8: When Anna was my bitch, that was my homegirl, I

1606
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 8: fucked with her.

1607
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 9: She was Rider's Eye, so.

1608
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 8: Her damn sister who ain't really it wasn't really trying

1609
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 8: to fuck with her because of course, I mean she

1610
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,520
Speaker 8: probably would have killed her with a lightning.

1611
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: And the and the ice stuff. Okay, cool.

1612
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 8: However, I also felt lied too, and I was told

1613
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 8: by apple Care that let it Go was awesome. But meanwhile,

1614
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 8: love is an open door slash way harder than let

1615
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 8: it go. How dare y'all? I don't get it. I

1616
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 8: am very frustrated, and I'm upset. And I knew that

1617
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 8: that Prince Nigga was was full of ship from the

1618
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 8: very moment that I saw.

1619
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: Oh she got cut off. Now I haven't seen Frozen,

1620
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: so this is all. I haven't seen Frozen to see

1621
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: it frozen? Okay, all right, it's came again.

1622
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 8: Of course you knew a bitch was gonna get cut

1623
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 8: off because everybody got cut off on this line. And

1624
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 8: I laughed at everybody else when they got cut off.

1625
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 8: And here I go, looking dumb. Anyway, getting back Amazon

1626
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 8: is here, getting back to parasite. I think one of

1627
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 8: my favorite shots in the in the whole movie was

1628
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 8: when they found out that the maids had a peach

1629
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 8: allergy and they were shaving the peach stuff onto like

1630
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 8: her her things. That was crazy. I also thought that

1631
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 8: they had killed her when they like smashed her face

1632
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 8: into some peach stuff.

1633
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: So there were so many moments.

1634
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 8: Where I was like, Okay, that lady is dead.

1635
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 9: Meanwhile, she wasn't really dead.

1636
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 8: And it just got really really reckless and crazy at

1637
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 8: the end, and I felt like I was. It was

1638
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 8: very relatable content in terms of y'all are trying to

1639
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 8: be a parasite and siping off of the riches of

1640
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 8: these people and feel everybody's job so that your whole

1641
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,839
Speaker 8: entire family could come up off of these people. Meanwhile,

1642
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 8: somebody had already came up off of them, and then

1643
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 8: you ended up in the same situation as the nigga

1644
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 8: that was in the basement.

1645
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: So boomed and.

1646
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 8: You're not gonna get out of there because it is

1647
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 8: what it is. However, I'm wondering if when they sell

1648
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 8: that house, are they going to uncover the locked like

1649
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:37,919
Speaker 8: like they've.

1650
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: Got to move that.

1651
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 8: Bookshelf out the way the sea what's up and then

1652
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 8: they'll find that little trap door thing. I'm guessing, But

1653
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 8: that's me and my editorial fiells and it's too much

1654
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 8: like right anyway, before I get cut off again, I

1655
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 8: just wanted to say, have a great day everybody, and

1656
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,799
Speaker 8: peace Kim Doc later.

1657
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: Thanks Jim Doc. Yeah, it's interesting too because I don't

1658
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: think did you watch Parasite? It just it was just

1659
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: me you okay, Yeah, it's so weird because like it

1660
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: didn't quite like neatly wrap up as a metaphor. It

1661
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: was almost like a like a like a like how

1662
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: a dream doesn't make sense one hundred percent, Like you

1663
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: have a dream, you wake up and you be like, Okay,

1664
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: they didn't make one hundred percent sense. It gave me

1665
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 1: a feeling, but the feeling makes sense. That's how Parasite

1666
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: feels for me. Because people try to like turn the

1667
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: whole allegory into like, this is what it means. It's

1668
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: about capitalism or about scarcier resources and this, and and

1669
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: I'm like kind of a kind of g nine. It's

1670
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: about vilifying people that you think are doing better than

1671
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: you and then becoming the kind of person that you

1672
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: claim a rich person is. Like, it was just a

1673
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: very interesting thing. And I think because of the time

1674
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: we're in, there's a lot of people like kill the rich,

1675
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: eat the rich, and shit, so they act like that's

1676
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 1: what the movie is about. But I didn't think the

1677
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: movie was really about that as far as the conversation

1678
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: around it. It felt more like what the pursuit of that

1679
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: ship does to people. And anyway, I love the I

1680
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: love the movie though it was. It was just an

1681
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: amazing movie. All right, let's go to the next voicemail.

1682
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: All right, next voicemail. Let's give it a second. There

1683
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: we go. Oh but dal cool, So that's why we

1684
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: got a blank message. Well, thank you for calling in blank.

1685
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 3: You did the thing this week, all right, last one.

1686
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: This thing that's from Dash, oh old friend Dash, Team Nintendo.

1687
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: Now we have a switch. I guess the truth is on.

1688
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: The war is over. We all teamed over here now

1689
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: for remember that from back in the day. He's the

1690
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: right call it about the Nintendo's and ship. Oh wait,

1691
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: this voicemail doesn't want to load. What is taking so long?

1692
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. We tried stopping and starting it.

1693
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 9: Hey, Roden Carron, this is Dad. I kind of wanted

1694
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 9: to thank you guys for introducing me to a couple

1695
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 9: of books of this quarantine.

1696
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

1697
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 9: It started with I've Been had. Uh we were eight

1698
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 9: years in power by kinda He's the coast. I kind

1699
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,839
Speaker 9: of struggling with fishing it, so I just went audio

1700
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 9: for him. I bought that one and I thought throwing audible.

1701
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 9: I got very tune Day Thurston's How to Be Black

1702
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 9: in his audio book, he breathed dead himself and he

1703
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 9: quit performance. Also with Sarah's her name, but I was

1704
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,919
Speaker 9: it was called a conflict is out abuse, which is wonderful.

1705
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 9: Also got uh Michelle Alexanders, lu Jim Crow, and I

1706
01:28:55,160 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 9: just finished Damon Young whatever. Lacker ben very relatable. I

1707
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 9: fucking love and he hits his own voice. H he

1708
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 9: read the author read the book himself. Very relatable concent Uh,

1709
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 9: super funny. I kind of to think with Tony, he's

1710
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 9: a coach. I've known about him for years. Right after

1711
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 9: the uh, the initial election of Barack Obama, I was

1712
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 9: in Barzing Noble and I saw this magazine on the

1713
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 9: cover that says it's just the end of white America.

1714
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 9: I'm like, who writes the article called then gonna be?

1715
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 9: You're the super hotel for super And I love that article.

1716
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 9: I kept that particular magazine on me for like years

1717
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 9: until I found out, oh it's our line. Yeah, thank you, guys.

1718
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. A long time listener. Yeah, all

1719
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: those books, man, I love those books. I haven't read

1720
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Michelle Alexander's book yet. I own it, I just haven't

1721
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: gotten around to it. Pandemic has killed my reading, like

1722
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: vibe man, Like I would, I would read and then

1723
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: I would go out to like a restaurant. A lot

1724
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 1: of times I'd go by myself and just sit eat

1725
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 1: a sandwich or something and just read, sip on some

1726
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: coffee or something. And I'm just not doing that ship

1727
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: at all. It's just not the same at the crib man. So,

1728
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 1: but I need to get back. I've been reading The

1729
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 1: Wedding Party for fucking ever. I just feel like I

1730
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: read like a page and then I'll be like, see

1731
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: you next week.

1732
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 3: But I gotta get on it.

1733
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: And maybe it's just what I'm reading. Maybe I need

1734
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: to get back into some some nonfiction or something. I

1735
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but but yeah, I swear

1736
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: about all those books. And conflict is not abuse. It

1737
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 1: was just a tough, tough read for me, but it

1738
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: was one I really needed to read, like I had

1739
01:30:53,280 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 1: to to learn some things that like things that I

1740
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 1: feel like the internet circles I traffick in rely so

1741
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: heavily on the abuse terminology, victimization and stuff that there.

1742
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: And there's some merit to it, obviously, you know, because

1743
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: when you're talking about people who've never been heard before,

1744
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,759
Speaker 1: who've never been acknowledged in the traumas that they've gone through.

1745
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 1: Clearly there is some merit to the fact that there

1746
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: now have a platform to talk about these things. But

1747
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: there's a level of manipulation that can happen. There's a

1748
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: un level, there's a level of unhealthy UH denial that happens,

1749
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,440
Speaker 1: a lack of compromise.

1750
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 3: A lack of.

1751
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: UH coordination. And then also I don't think people have

1752
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: really really understand what it means to lead from a

1753
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: place of trauma and why that's a bad thing. You know.

1754
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 1: Imagine that there was a professor and they had to

1755
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: teach a course about racism, right, but this professor would

1756
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: anytime they started getting up in front of the class

1757
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: to talk about racism, they started crying and they started

1758
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: being like, let me tell you, in my past, people

1759
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 1: have been racist to me, and I you know, it's

1760
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,520
Speaker 1: terrible and white people are horrible and blah blah blah.

1761
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 3: At some point the university would be like, I.

1762
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: Can't let you teach this class because you're not capable

1763
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: of coming in and doing the job of teaching this class,

1764
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: right because you're not you have not dealt with the

1765
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 1: trauma of what has happened to you, and therefore you're leading.

1766
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 3: This classroom from your trauma.

1767
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: So you're saying, halfway through the class, I feel triggered.

1768
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 1: I want all the white people to get out of

1769
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 1: the class. You're saying halfway through the class, no questions.

1770
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 1: You're saying, you know, I didn't feel like doing class today,

1771
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, you know stuff like that, Right, Well, that's

1772
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of different. The way that we

1773
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: navigate the internet is like that. How many spaces are

1774
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 1: started by people who really haven't dealt with the trauma

1775
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: they've gone through and they want to have this like

1776
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 1: public reckoning of their trauma that they're not even done with.

1777
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: So they don't have they're not in you know, they

1778
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: haven't dealt with it through therapy, they haven't dealt with

1779
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 1: it through whether it's medication, whether it's conflict resolution skills.

1780
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: And yet how many of these people are on pedestals.

1781
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: How many these people can just self appoint themselves as

1782
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm an activist as I'm the leader of this group.

1783
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: I started this Facebook page. Y'all don't like what I say,

1784
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 1: Get the fuck off. You know how many people are

1785
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: like that? And in addition to that not being healthy

1786
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: for them, because they're gonna consistently be triggered and all

1787
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 1: this stuff, we still we feed into it. We give

1788
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: them power, We empower them fact that they can't resolve things.

1789
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: We empower the fact that they use abuse language rather

1790
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: than you know, this neutral type of language. Right, We

1791
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: empower that because we think that that is, we think

1792
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 1: our pity and our empathy is empowering them. But in

1793
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 1: a lot of cases, we're infantilizing them and dooming them

1794
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 1: to repeat the same patterns over and over, and especially

1795
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: when we know now the predictability of it. All Right,

1796
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: So for example, if I know I'm a sexual assault

1797
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 1: survivor and I start a hashtag on Twitter for people

1798
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: to talk about sexual assault, well they're gonna be people

1799
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: on Twitter who are gonna say some fucked up shit,

1800
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 1: Like I can tell you that right now, certain with

1801
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 1: one thousand percent certainty. Well, in my once we get there,

1802
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: if I'm the leader of this thing, I haven't dealt

1803
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 1: with my trauma. What do I start doing demanding that

1804
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: all of you address my trauma?

1805
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 3: Hey, go get this person, go, get go, do this.

1806
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 1: Don't put me in this tweet, don't retweet that, don't

1807
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,719
Speaker 1: post this, don't as opposed to what I can control,

1808
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 1: logging off what I can control making my account private,

1809
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, now, I make you responsible for me, you know.

1810
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: It's it's it's like when people call our Facebook group

1811
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: or something, they be like, it's a safe space. I'd

1812
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 1: be like, it's not, because I can never be responsible

1813
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,560
Speaker 1: for you, and you can never really truly be responsible

1814
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: for me, you know. And that's that, And we need

1815
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: to get rid of that illusion because the truth is

1816
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: more sobering than the lie of me putting myself on

1817
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: a pedestal like I can protect you from the internet.

1818
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: I can't, you know. And I think these are the

1819
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: tougher discussions. And conflict does not abuse gave me the

1820
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: language around it because it was so different from everything

1821
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: I was reading at the time, and I was like,

1822
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 1: but this is true. You know, people that refuse to

1823
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: discuss shit with people that they call friends but disagree with,

1824
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: and they kind of turned it into a bullying leverage

1825
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: of you're gonna do what I tell you to do

1826
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: and shut the fuck up, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1827
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 1: that type of thing never felt good to me, and

1828
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: it didn't feel empowering and it didn't feel right. And

1829
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: but that was a very common thing that I was

1830
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 1: seeing on the internet all the time. So it has

1831
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 1: a conflict with somebody, they stopped talking to them, they

1832
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: start telling everybody else about it, and then they tell

1833
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: them the fucking like they better they better come to

1834
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: me and say this, that and the other don't say

1835
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: shit like and eventually you end up in this situation

1836
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 1: where it's like, was that healthy for anyone involved? You know,

1837
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: I could see if y'all weren't really really friends then,

1838
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 1: but you know, people call this shit friendship and they

1839
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 1: do this to people. So anyway, I'm glad you're reading

1840
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: all those books. Man, those are some dope books. All right,

1841
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: We got email, Sean, says Rod and Karen. I wrote

1842
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 1: before about getting infected a second time to clarify the reason,

1843
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 1: oh comments about immunity. To clarify the The reason I

1844
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 1: wrote was because you tend to be better at providing news.

1845
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Relate to COVID nineteen to many news networks in the US,

1846
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: and I wanted to clarify about an article you reported

1847
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 1: on and that article on some other similar articles. They're

1848
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 1: referring to cases of relapse in a manner that imply reinfection. However,

1849
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: we are now entering a period where that will where

1850
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: that will be more likely for people who got infected early.

1851
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 1: Natural immunity lasts about six months. That means that people

1852
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 1: infected in November January likely no longer have immunity. In

1853
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 1: some cases, immunity will dissipay faster, So not assuming immunity

1854
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 1: is a lot safer. Yeah, they just did a study. Well,

1855
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 1: I will read it on the next one of these things.

1856
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: I just read to study what they were saying. Some

1857
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: of these antibodies are gone before three months. And with

1858
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 1: that being the case, you know, one, it kind of

1859
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 1: lowers hope for a vaccine. Two, it kind of makes

1860
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: them be like, we should be concentrating on treatment, like

1861
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 1: how do we get people treated and medicated and out

1862
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: of the hospital faster and cured of this thing, rather

1863
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: than a vaccine that may not be viable if it's

1864
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:06,719
Speaker 1: only going to last a few months. Furthermore, the Oxford

1865
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 1: vaccine is now in phase three wide scale trials in

1866
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: South Africa and Brazil, and Indian company is already producing it,

1867
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 1: and the US has already pre ordered three hundred million doses.

1868
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: If successful, distribution could begin as early as September. However,

1869
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 1: immunity from this vaccine only last about a year. That

1870
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: means that annual boosters will be needed. Also, as Faucci

1871
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: reported pointed out, if there is less than sixty nine

1872
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,919
Speaker 1: percent coverage, you will still see COVID nineteen spread. Osaka

1873
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: University is working on a DNA vaccine that could be

1874
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: available as early as December. This means, rather than injecting

1875
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 1: a weak form of the virus to a listening immune response,

1876
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: they inject the DNA for the antigens directly into sales.

1877
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 1: DNA vaccines have fewer side effects and produce longer immunity,

1878
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 1: but they are only currently used in veterinary vaccines. The

1879
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 1: Osaka University star as COBE two vaccine would be in

1880
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: the first in the first human DNA vaccine. Damn. I

1881
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: hope this information is useful as a complex confusing time

1882
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: and you are doing such a great job keeping your

1883
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: audience informed that I would like to thank you living

1884
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: in Schrodinger's virus countries, y'all in the US, myself in Japan,

1885
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: where there's insufficient testing, so everyone that's simultaneously infected and

1886
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: not infected. It's quite stressful. Stay safe and keep up

1887
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 1: to go work.

1888
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 4: Thanks Sean, Thank you, baby, you'd be safe there.

1889
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: John Wright saying, good morning Karen and Rod. Last week

1890
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: you mentioned scenarios where someone would confess to something they

1891
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,719
Speaker 1: actually didn't do when all the pressure of the police

1892
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 1: and criminal justice system is on top of them. I

1893
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 1: think it was on the pregame show discussion about Amanda

1894
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: Knox documentary, and maybe on the Jail COVID episode too. Yeah,

1895
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 1: it was definitely on the pregame. I remember talking about

1896
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: this because I watched the Amanda Knox documentary on Netflix,

1897
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: and the biggest thing that I didn't know was that

1898
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 1: her and that dude confessed. I didn't know that. I

1899
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 1: just always thought they had framed them. Motherfucker's first well,

1900
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: to be honest, when I wasn't paying attention, I just

1901
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 1: thought they did it because I mean, who the fuck

1902
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 1: frames white America, a white American woman overseas right for

1903
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 1: some sex crime shit. I was like, oh, yeah, she

1904
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 1: must've did that. So then when I looked into it

1905
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: a little bit, I was like, well, maybe she didn't

1906
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know. But then they were like, oh,

1907
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: she confess, and I was like, she confessed. Holy shit.

1908
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 1: Now we know that you can call it a confession

1909
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: out of people. She's in a foreign country, YadA, YadA, YadA.

1910
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm not different though.

1911
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying this impossible.

1912
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: And then certain people's mentality do not make them good

1913
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: with interrogation and being questioned, and they get nervous and

1914
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: they fuck up and they say something and that's not

1915
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 1: what you want to do in police custody, man, But

1916
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people do it. They don't have the

1917
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 1: mentality to be like because the smart thing is shut

1918
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: the fuck up. You can't talk your way out of this,

1919
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: wait till you get a lawyer. Let they let them

1920
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,719
Speaker 1: do the talking. But we've all seen the first forty

1921
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 1: eight We all know people they say shit to you

1922
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: before you're in custy. They got tricks, they can lie

1923
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,839
Speaker 1: to you about certain things, and people end up boom,

1924
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm confessing to something, thinking that they com fromising or

1925
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: helping get out of trouble. And now You're going to

1926
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 1: prison forever because you said some shit and it's admissible

1927
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 1: in the court of log right, So that's a big

1928
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: part of it. Anyways, I just wanted to add in that.

1929
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: In addition to When they see Us. There's also a

1930
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: really amazing Netflix docu drama series called Unbelievable that you

1931
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: should check out. Oh yeah about the girl guy? Yeah, yeah,

1932
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 1: I know this one. It tells the story of a

1933
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 1: serial rapist in Pacific Northwest who evaded capture for years,

1934
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 1: but the real focus is on how horribly are system

1935
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 1: treats victims of sexual assault. It's a really great series

1936
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: that's probably the best commentary and illustration of rape culture

1937
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,719
Speaker 1: that I've ever seen, and its rightfully centers the victims

1938
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 1: perspective throughout the feature as features some amazing performances by

1939
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: all the women in the cast. So wait is it?

1940
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 1: I thought Unbelievable was a Okay, you said docu drama,

1941
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: so we say performances? Do they have act acting in

1942
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: it too? Are they like acting out the parts?

1943
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 4: All?

1944
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 1: Right? Obviously serious trigger warners for sexual violence, misogyny, et cetera.

1945
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 1: Though the show does do a fait really good job

1946
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: of making the assaults terrifying without being overly graphic. Oh

1947
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 1: so they are acting re enacting it. Oh that is

1948
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: that is a choice? That isn't that is a choice. Yeah.

1949
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: I watched athlete a if you want to watch another series,

1950
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:15,799
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a lot less like triggering.

1951
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 1: It wasn't like trying to get into the graphic sexual

1952
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 1: nature of the stuff. I also heard. I also heard

1953
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: the they did that with the I'll be there in

1954
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: the dark or whatever, I'll be gone in the dark,

1955
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: the thing about the Golden about the the serial killer,

1956
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 1: that that they caught using DNA test and shit, and

1957
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 1: and now I heard they do dramatization of the crowns too.

1958
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 1: I wonder why they do that. You know, like someone

1959
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: was sexual assault, you think they wouldn't want to do that, but.

1960
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 4: They wouldn't want to touch that, right, Just let somebody

1961
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 4: just tell it. Telling them to this traumatizing.

1962
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's traumatizing.

1963
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 4: Know.

1964
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: Anyway, As a bonus, most of the scenes of the

1965
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,560
Speaker 1: main character biking around Washington were actually filling on the

1966
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: streets of so Caw. Anyways, just thought you might want

1967
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,719
Speaker 1: to add it to your coronavirus binge watching lists because

1968
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 1: along with when they see us. This is probably the

1969
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 1: most powerful series I saw in twenty nineteen. It's something

1970
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 1: that especially men should watch to help wrap our heads

1971
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: around the world that women have to navigate. Ps. I

1972
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: don't even play video games, but I would gladly buy

1973
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 1: a gaming system just to play Mortal Karen. That was

1974
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 1: so hilarious. Stay safe, Love you both, John. Thanks John.

1975
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 1: Let's see steph G says, Hey, y'all, my name is

1976
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: Stephanie and I wrote to y'all before. Lol. You won't remember,

1977
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 1: but that's okay. I'm writing in regard to the Nick

1978
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: Cannon situation. Y'all talked about it in the last show,

1979
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 1: and I have to admit that I was taking by

1980
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 1: surprise by the whole thing. I don't follow Nick Cannon

1981
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 1: at all. I only know him from the drum Line

1982
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,640
Speaker 1: and Wilden Out. When I watched the podcast video and

1983
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 1: not the two minute clip that most people watched, I

1984
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: was disgusted. This hole tip shit hotep shit always sounds

1985
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: nice in the beginning, Black empowerment, this and that, and

1986
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: that's how I think they trick black people. But then

1987
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:59,759
Speaker 1: it takes a terrible turn, anti semitism, anti feminism, anti

1988
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: LJA to b TQ. They sound much like white supremacists

1989
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: with a sprinkle of black, making up stories about where

1990
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: black people came from, and an in session with Egypt.

1991
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a wonderful place that I can't even understand.

1992
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,639
Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of isms in our community, colorism,

1993
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: et cetera, but I never realized that anti Semitism was

1994
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 1: one of them. People are posting protect and see at

1995
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 1: all costs and saying he said nothing wrong. Yeah, man,

1996
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 1: I am so glad. I never see this on my

1997
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: Facebook page. And I'm not bragging, but I know that

1998
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 1: it's happening because my friends be posting shit where they

1999
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: like and if you niggers the friend Nick Kennedy, I'm like,

2000
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it must be happening somewhere. Just I

2001
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 1: don't want to be friends with anyone doing that kind

2002
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: of shit. Keep it from around me. Like that's the

2003
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 1: other type part. That's where when people be like and

2004
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 1: it's up to y'all to find reach the people that

2005
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,600
Speaker 1: are doing this fucked up shit and tell I'm like,

2006
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that work. I'm on Facebook

2007
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: to look at baby pictures and memes and comics and shit,

2008
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to turn my Facebook experience into a

2009
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 1: fucking classroom, you idiot. What's wrong with y'all? Do the

2010
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 1: work befriend these hotels? No, it's the problem, Like make

2011
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 1: them be hotels by theyself. Let it be like six

2012
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 1: of them niggas and they just only talk to each other, right,

2013
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 1: giving them a platform. Now, now you look crazy on

2014
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:24,640
Speaker 1: my page talking about, you know, posting up these and

2015
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: if one more y'all says Nick Cannon is jesus, I'm like,

2016
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: I'll be like, what's happing it over there? Like unfriend

2017
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: your uncle? But what he said?

2018
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 2: You could go on Facebook be like, no, nigga, but

2019
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 2: what he said?

2020
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 1: And his co host Griff, mind you, Griff was kicked

2021
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 1: out of Public Enemy for saying anti Semitic shit years ago,

2022
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 1: and as I'm sure you know, was wrong. Are black

2023
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 1: people so desperate for black empowered that we're willing to

2024
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 1: down this hill repeating bullshit conspiracy theories made up by

2025
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 1: white supremacists and not realizing how stupid and crazy they sound.

2026
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: I know some of us came from royalty, but surely

2027
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 1: not all of us. I can assure you that it's

2028
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:58,719
Speaker 1: okay to have an ancestor. It was a regular ass

2029
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: person from West Africa. Yeah, yeah, it's insane. I've been

2030
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 1: reading a ton lately and I stumbled onto an essay

2031
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: by James Barwin called Negroes are anti Semitic because they

2032
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 1: are anti white. Yeah, Randolf was quoting that the Last

2033
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 1: Songs on Three Guys on in the American concept the context.

2034
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: In the American context, the most ironical thing about Negro

2035
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: anti Semitism is that the Negroes really condemning the Jew

2036
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: for having become an American white man, for having become,

2037
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 1: in effect a Christian. The Jew profits from his status

2038
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: in America, and he must expect Negroes to distrust him

2039
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 1: for it. The Jew does not realize that the credential

2040
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: he offers, the fact that he has been despised and slaughtered,

2041
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:44,560
Speaker 1: does not increase the Negro's understanding and increases the negroes rage.

2042
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm noticing that a lot of people don't want black liberation.

2043
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,759
Speaker 1: They just want to take the place of the white man. Yep.

2044
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 1: They want whatever power they believe white man to have.

2045
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, and I'm sure you'll

2046
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 1: tell me. I don't think you said anything wrong. Sorry

2047
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 1: if this is long, but I really needed to talk

2048
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:02,679
Speaker 1: to someone about this because sh it don't make no sense.

2049
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 1: Thank y'all for reading. Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't

2050
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 1: know why you thought we were gonna tell you it

2051
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 1: was wrong. I mean, that's basically what I believe is.

2052
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 1: You know, if anything, I'm mad. Nick Kennon and Professor

2053
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 1: Griff and Deshaun Jackson and Stephen Jackson got got your

2054
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:26,679
Speaker 1: boy Terry Crews looking like he had a point. He said,

2055
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: be careful with black supremacy and Black lives matter, don't

2056
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 1: become black lives better. And god damn it if in

2057
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 1: a week of these niggas wasn't out here talking about

2058
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: we better than these Jews and we the real Jews. Fuck,

2059
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 1: just just shut up for just everyone, take a break.

2060
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: This is in a bad week, man, Kanye Chance, this

2061
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 1: is ugh to live like everybody just. I want to

2062
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:56,480
Speaker 1: blame it on the pandemic.

2063
01:47:57,960 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 2: I do, because these niggas would have been doing some

2064
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 2: of the ship.

2065
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 4: They'd been on the plane somewhere in another country. They'd

2066
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 4: have been signing the deal that don't bet on somebody's sitcom.

2067
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 4: They're been making somebody's movie. Music, television, TV producing. They've

2068
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 4: been doing some other ship.

2069
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. Like you said, they just sit around

2070
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 1: all day, Like, how can I say some funk ship today?

2071
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 2: This will happen.

2072
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 1: We have too much free time, right The White Man

2073
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: was right right now, this is stupid.

2074
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 4: This is absolutely ridiculous.

2075
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Get out here.

2076
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 6: We were adult and this is ridiculous.

2077
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 2: Hit the crap. That's my girl.

2078
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm mm hmmm. Hello, let's go to the

2079
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 1: let's go to the last one.

2080
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 2: Hello, do you two?

2081
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 1: Whatever?

2082
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 2: What's going from?

2083
01:48:56,160 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: That's Cam Newton on his Instagram. You have I've seen

2084
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 1: this clip on the internet. Is now the one where

2085
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 1: he was talking to I don't know if he got

2086
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 1: like a TV show or Instagram live show he'd be doing.

2087
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: But he was talking to somebody there was like you

2088
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 1: a top five quarterback or something like that, and they

2089
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 1: signed the quarterbacks that's older than you and all this

2090
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 1: ship and he was like hello, and it was like

2091
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 1: he has completely turned into like a black art. So

2092
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 1: you haven't seen this, all right, I'll show it to you.

2093
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,639
Speaker 1: This is so good. You have to see this. It's smart.

2094
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 1: This is why Cam still want my favorite quarterback. Let

2095
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 1: me see what is the full clip? Okay, it's a

2096
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,719
Speaker 1: real short clip. Can you see it? It's not showing

2097
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: on your computer yet.

2098
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 7: All right, there's people older than me getting signed, especially

2099
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 7: your position.

2100
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Hello.

2101
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, older than me getting signed, especially your position.

2102
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 2: Hello. Yes, hello girl.

2103
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,679
Speaker 1: Let me tell you he already dressed like a church an.

2104
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: He he done made the full like complete evolution into

2105
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 1: church auntie.

2106
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 6: Yes, I rolled some roll.

2107
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 1: The only thing miss was talking somebody fast or some

2108
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,839
Speaker 1: some other reductive as ship and these other little fast

2109
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 1: ass quarterbacks.

2110
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 2: Out here thinking they slicky ship like. I don't see

2111
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 2: what they doing.

2112
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 1: Hello, yes, hello? That little point he had to with

2113
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 1: that Hello.

2114
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 2: That was all the sass what I'm talking about?

2115
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 1: Oh?

2116
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 3: I love it, Give me all the sass.

2117
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 1: Put it right in my veins. Uh so yeah, nerd

2118
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 1: geeting Ninja rights in Hey, y'all riding caring the way.

2119
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: I hollered and laughed when Rod read that email that

2120
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 1: said don't read it. Oh my god, I was dying

2121
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 1: and crying and rolling because it is something I totally

2122
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 1: would have done. I sincerely hope you don't dwell on

2123
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 1: the ride. It was an honest state. Why would they

2124
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: put that at the end? Oh, Lord, I hope that

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Speaker 1: family doesn't listen to the show. Oh no, yes, she

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01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: messed me up by putting that at the end. You

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01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 1: gotta put it in there the title or the very

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Speaker 1: start of the email, because I'm I don't read. Obviously,

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01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 1: we get too much feedback. This is what takes two

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Speaker 1: hours to the show.

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Speaker 2: We don't we don't pre read it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. On another note, Rod, didn't bring your prison. Prison,

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01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:26,600
Speaker 1: don't don't bring your prison. Abolition is propaganda. The waffles

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01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 1: syrup needs to be in prison of fluffy goodness while

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01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:32,839
Speaker 1: I make them my daughter and I say the waffle

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01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: song from Teen Titans, go waffles, waffles, waffle waffles. Folks

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01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 1: saying you had to add more syrup because waffles absorb it, No,

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01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 1: you don't. The waffle absorbs a syrup and now you

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01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 1: have fluffy sweet treat. This is that's not true. It

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01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 1: does absorb on syrup. Plus, are y'all? Are y'all children?

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01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:54,679
Speaker 1: You need to see your syrup to know it's death. Yes,

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01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 1: some of us do look like my man Joe from

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01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 1: the Old Guard said you're infant how and y'all never

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01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: understand and love like this. I'm paraprasy guess, but you

2145
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: get the point. Speaking of The Old Guard, Will y'all

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01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 1: be reviewing it? Yes, we will if now I understand

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01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: the Old Guard and love Birds were two movies I

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01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:15,639
Speaker 1: was looking forward to to y'all view. Oh I still

2149
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: haven't seen love Birds. Man, this pandemic that fucked up.

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01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: I missed the Thursday Night movie album because that.

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01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 2: Literally, like that was our thing. Yeah yeah, I mean,

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01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 2: like I said, we guess to get back on it.

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01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 4: But it's really hard when you used to just the

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01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 4: custom of going out because that's just about thing, going out,

2155
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 4: catching catching the afternoon early afternoon metnee and then grabbing

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01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 4: some to eat and then coming home and reviewing the movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing is without the tradition of it,

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01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 1: it's weird because there's no day that we can like

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01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 1: set aside to do it. And then we also with

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01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 1: care working from home and stuff. It's not even like

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Speaker 1: a well, you're home, let's go watch it. Like you know,

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01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 1: we mostly just try to stay out each other's way,

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01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, you're playing video games, don't worry

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01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 1: about it. Oh you're already watching Warrior none, go ahead

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01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 1: and binge that. Yeah, yeah, anyway, we'll try to get

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01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 1: on it. Because Karen did actually take some time out

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01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 1: to watch The Old Guard.

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Speaker 2: That was really good, because that's you and Justin talked

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01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 4: I say, you know, I think I want to do

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01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 4: it because I know it's that number one, number two

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01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:17,680
Speaker 4: on Netflix.

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01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely will review it soon. And also

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Speaker 1: we might either take the week off or take a

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01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 1: couple of days off this week. I don't know which

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01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 1: one yet, but you know, just to make sure we

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01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 1: don't get burned out.

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Speaker 3: Also, I tried to leave a voicemail, but I think

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Speaker 3: the system is down.

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01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: It wouldn't let me leave one. Not sure if anyone

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01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 1: else is having this issue. Kim Doc did a week ago,

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01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 1: but as you can hear, we had several voicemails this week,

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01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 1: so it might just be you gotta pay your bill,

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01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: you know. I know, you know some of y'all on

2185
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 1: that Verizon wireless and it's just not working out. I

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01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,679
Speaker 1: love y'all, stay safe out there. In my thanks of mine,

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01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 1: thank you, And the last one is from kim Doc,

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01:53:56,200 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 1: who said, skip the last couple of paragraphs. Okay, hey

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01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 1: caring my love, Hey Rod baby, Wow the disrespect? Yeah,

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01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 1: hope y'all have been there joining the week. It's been

2191
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 1: rough and hard to wrap my head around certain things.

2192
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 1: So I've been focusing my energy on acquiring and honing skills.

2193
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 1: I've never seen to have time and patients for things

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01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: like my home plants. I hate that it's trending now lol.

2195
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 1: I have a plan addiction, but my picker is off.

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01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 1: You have to beware of bringing home plants that were

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01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 1: sick at the nursery or store. At the store at

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01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 1: the point of purchase, a couple of suculists have bit

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01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 1: the dust. Yeah, I got. I had a plot that

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01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 1: had three sucklings in it, and like two or two

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01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 1: of the seculents is dead, but one is holding on

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01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: for dal light. It's growing. That's the secling that can

2203
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: do it. Okay. I don't know what's the mother two

2204
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 1: succulents they bit the dust. Okay.

2205
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 3: I know y'all are into yoga.

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01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 1: Before COVID, I started this workout class and incorporates drumsticks

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01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 1: and pilate's movement. It's a lot of squads and depth

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01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 1: to increase your range of motion. Purchase some funky drumsticks

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Speaker 1: on my own. Found some routines on YouTube. I wish

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01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 1: black workout warriors were into this, so I could get

2211
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: a trap vibe going one direction is cool, but them

2212
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 1: niggas don't get your cardio up like some city girls

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01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 1: scamra music.

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01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 4: Yes, and you know, and that's one thing that I

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01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 4: do miss about going to yoga because my yoga teacher

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01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 4: played black ass music.

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01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:24,959
Speaker 2: And one thing about was it like zoom but it's

2218
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 2: not all.

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01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 4: It's very hard to find a zoomer class, particularly like

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01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 4: the YMCA. I don't know if it's just the YMCA

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01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 4: or maybe the teachers I have that actually play black

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01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 4: ass music. You can get a lot of Michigan Latino music,

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01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 4: which is fine, and you can get a lot of

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01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 4: like that that that cardio, you know, smooth jazz, white music.

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01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 2: But sometimes you.

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01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 4: Want to hit and that you want to oh this

2227
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 4: is so Rihanna, Like you want to hear something else

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01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 4: other than that. And it's very very hard, Like they

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01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 4: were like, we're gonna pick that cleaning because it's while

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01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 4: we're gonna pick that cleaning shit up, You're be like, Okay,

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01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 4: I guess yeah.

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01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, picking up new habits and stuff,

2233
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 1: and this is kind of the way it's got to go.

2234
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 1: Because we've got to replace things, and it's hard to

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01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: replace it with just sitting around. So you know, you

2236
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 1: can't go out to eat, you can't go to the movies,

2237
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 1: whatever else things you like to do. So yeah, if

2238
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 1: it's plants, if it's reading, if it's comic books, video games, whatever,

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01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 1: just to keep your mind distracted until you know, we

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01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 1: get to a point where maybe hopefully one day we

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01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 1: can go outside again. You just gotta do what you

2242
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 1: gotta do, man, So I don't blame you, And especially

2243
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 1: with half this country just being not even half, it's

2244
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 1: lea less than half. It's like.

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01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 3: Of people that just actively are like.

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01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 1: I want to fuck coronavirus. I want it in my

2247
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 1: body right now, pour it in my veins. With them

2248
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 1: being out there, I'm just comfortable having to be like, well,

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01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: I guess it's me and these plants, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like I'm not doing it all right? Oh

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01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 1: recipes John Representative John Lewis. The sacrifices these civil rights

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01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 1: leaders have made just to see Obama, my goodness, I

2253
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 1: get chilled thinking about how glorious that must have been

2254
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 1: for them. But then the country is headed towards racism

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Speaker 1: once again. I will say this. I'm confident that these

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01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: evil Republicans will not be remembered the way our leaders

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01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 1: are we I thought about this the other day. You

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01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 1: realize we are actually living in a time where these

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01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 1: the monuments, the buildings, and the statues that will be

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01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 1: built for these Republicans will be torn down one day.

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01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 1: Like that's the legacy they're leaving behind the same, you know.

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01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 1: And I don't know how long it'll take or whatever,

2263
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: but like, if anyone ever tries to put some Mitch

2264
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 1: McConnell shit up, it's coming down, you know what I mean.

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01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 1: If you can try to name something after Trump, people

2266
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 1: are gonna be like, no, don't put his name on

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01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 1: a fucking school.

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01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 2: Yes, we don't want his name on a goddamn thing.

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01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's gonna be a fight. They made it

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01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 1: that way. They made it that way. But uh yeah,

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01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 1: and I'm sure us yet another thing that eats their krawd.

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01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 1: Thanks for the week of great episodes of Amazing gas

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01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:05,920
Speaker 1: Spot see as the Treasure and I wanted to be

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01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:08,440
Speaker 1: more like Zaria as a kid. Blessings and laughter, Kim Doc.

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01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: Thanks Kim Doc, thank you. All right, that's it for today.

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01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything else except these guests we

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01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 1: got in the mail.

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01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 2: Was shocked and surprise for those.

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01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 4: Of you, uh that we actually got an Amazon wish

2280
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 4: list if you choose to and if you want to

2281
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 4: send us something, be it a card or anything like that,

2282
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 4: you want to find our address, going to black guy

2283
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 4: who tips dot com and look under about us.

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01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the blackouts dot com slash about is where you

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01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 1: can find us. It's okay, I'm cleaning it up. Uh,

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01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 1: where we can uh, where you can find the mailing

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01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 1: address and stuff if you want to mail us some.

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01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 2: Gift or whatever.

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01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not, Yeah, we're not. We literally did not

2290
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 1: expect this.

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01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 2: I was shocked.

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01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 1: But we went to that to the mailbox and we

2293
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 1: had like three different things. So the first one, uh

2294
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 1: comes with these and these came with cards and stuff too.

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01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 1: I hope, I'm I hope I'm reading this right. I

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01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 1: think it's sonic, is what I believe it says.

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01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 1: If not, then maybe Bonnie, But it says high Karen.

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01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 1: These cotton was it bolts of fabric or for head wrap,

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01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 1: scars and rap skirts, stay cool and enjoy, And I

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01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 1: think it says sonic. So look at all these these

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01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 1: beautiful fabrics that uh, I guess Karen can make into

2303
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 1: some fashions up in him.

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01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 2: Oh, I will be.

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01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: I can't give my mom a sewing machine or something.

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01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all be having me looking and fly.

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01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not gonna lie sh shout out to

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01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 4: black women, be like, I'm not gonna have caring out

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01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 4: here looking crazy because y'all over the years, I got

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01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 4: earrings I still wear, I got makeup, I still wear

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01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 4: lip gloss, I still wear you know, I slowly go

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01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 4: through some of the stuff that y'all gave me and

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Speaker 4: I will wanting to tell you everybody, thank you for

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02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 4: thinking about men want me to look nice.

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Speaker 1: Then we got this package okay with a card. I

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02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 1: always like to read the card first.

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02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 2: With some more cars to put in my card list

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Speaker 2: up there, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, this one came with a couple of pages.

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Speaker 1: Dear Rod and Karen, thank you for being who you

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Speaker 1: are and for doing the life changing work that you do. Wow,

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Speaker 1: life changing here, right, I'm personally grateful for your diligence

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02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 1: and authenticity. After several years of being a fan, I've

2324
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to log in and listen live in

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Speaker 1: the chat, the TVGWT community are a lot of are

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02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:40,520
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, a ton of fun. I'm not

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02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 1: kidding when I say you guys have gotten me through

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02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 1: COVID Black Rage and now COVID too Covid Squared. I

2329
02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:52,960
Speaker 1: live in NYC and gearing up to return to work.

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02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:56,400
Speaker 1: I did not want to get bossy again and miss

2331
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 1: the opportunity to say, oh, busy again and mist the

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Speaker 1: opportunity need to say thank you.

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Speaker 3: You're both treasures and deserve to be celebrated.

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Speaker 1: I'm including the bottle of my favorite champagne. Here's to you, Sonya,

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Speaker 1: so that must have been here the other the rats

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Speaker 1: is from Sonya, I said, Sonic like the het.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 1: I have all your games. But this is what Sonya

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Speaker 1: gave us with the with the card is this?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: It sounds krug either that or crude. You know we're

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Speaker 1: not fancy, but it's champagne. Okay, we got some champagne

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Speaker 1: up in here, some krug, grind brute. Okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know champ I know what

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02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 1: champagne means, and it will get dranked. Okay, I know

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02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 1: that much. Damn this champagne come with some type of

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Speaker 1: certificate inside. Who is it?

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Speaker 2: A limited edition should.

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02:01:55,840 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 4: Come with instructions like you got one out of thirty

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Speaker 4: bottles ever made.

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Speaker 1: Oh this shit is in French. Oh wait, hold on,

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02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 1: it's some English and it's this is gonna be like,

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02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 1: don't open it could cause epilepsi if you watch the

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02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:13,840
Speaker 1: game too close. Let's see all of our anecdotes and

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02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:17,200
Speaker 1: stories influence our culture, stiring the senses and the heart.

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02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 1: In the end, they carry us to where we want

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02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: to go to what we want to create a hand crafted,

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Speaker 1: exquisite champagne that leaves no one indifferent from Olivier Krug

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Speaker 1: sixth generation of the Kruge family, Kruge Grand Kouve, the

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02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 1: most generous champagne in the world with exceptional finis.

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Speaker 3: You have just opened a cake. Damn, this is go

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Speaker 3: give me in structches.

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Speaker 1: You need to kill the president. This is self destructed.

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02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 1: You have just opened the case containing a bottle of

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02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:55,280
Speaker 1: Kruge Grand Kove of Kuve. This creation is at the

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Speaker 1: heart of the house of Kruge, at the very epitome

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Speaker 1: of his handcrafted excellence. As you taste it, notes of

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02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 1: toasted bread, hazelnut, nougat, barley, sugar, citrus and jellied fruits

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02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:12,920
Speaker 1: may take you by surprise. You may even taste hints

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02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:16,320
Speaker 1: of apple still on the tree, flowers in bloom, ripe

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02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:20,880
Speaker 1: and dried fruite fruit, almonds, marzipan. I don't know what

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02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:24,680
Speaker 1: half that it is, gingerbread, sweet spices, and even brioche

2374
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 1: and honey. Crude Grand cove couve is the first prestige Creuvae.

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02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 1: So oh, so couvet is a thing okay to be

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02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:39,880
Speaker 1: recreated every year, beyond the very notion of vintage. An

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02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:42,680
Speaker 1: extraordinary blend of over one hundred and twenty wines from

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Speaker 1: ten different vintages, some of which may reach fifteen years

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02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:52,120
Speaker 1: of age. Blending so many vintages give Crude Grand Kuvee

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02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:57,760
Speaker 1: its unique fullness of flavors and aromas, an extraordinary generous

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02:03:57,800 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 1: generosity with king with Crewe grind Kreuve lends itself to

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02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:06,760
Speaker 1: a plethora like oh, with exceptional for ness, the results

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02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 1: of a stay of at least another six years in

2384
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:13,879
Speaker 1: the cellars. Wow, this is an experience. Crewe Grand Creuvee

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02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:18,680
Speaker 1: lends itself to a plethora of culinary combinations, from the

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02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:23,680
Speaker 1: simplest to the most sophisticated, from extra mature parmesan to

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02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:26,360
Speaker 1: a dish of toboro electro.

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02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:29,680
Speaker 2: Put my pinky up when I drink this.

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02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm saving this for a special occasion, right, this is gonna.

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02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 2: Be a spect I don't even know.

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02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I can just drink this on

2392
02:04:36,360 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 1: like a Saturday in the house.

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Speaker 2: You save it for something real special, baby, I don't

2394
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 2: even know, but it just sounds fancy.

2395
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna put this back up like this never

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Speaker 1: removed from box.

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02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:52,040
Speaker 2: I feel like you better put the put the plastic

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Speaker 2: back on that.

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Speaker 3: Let me gently place this on the ground.

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02:04:55,680 --> 02:04:57,360
Speaker 1: And then we had one more thing to Oh, we

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02:04:57,440 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: had more things. Yes, so the car comes with the flowers, right, yes,

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02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 1: all right, so then we got these decorative flowers. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Finally a plant that can't be killed.

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02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's him. Look like it's hand made too, Yeah.

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02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:16,720
Speaker 1: Because Karen and I have killed several real plants.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we thank you. Baby. This is gonna live forever.

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02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 1: So this is like a plant. Look how beautiful this is.

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02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:25,880
Speaker 1: These colors, the rainbow, the butterflies, it's got these little

2409
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:28,680
Speaker 1: light things that weigh it down to look like marbles.

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Speaker 2: Yes, y'all, I'm gonna say this again. I know I've

2411
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 2: said this before, y'all are.

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Speaker 4: Y'all niggas are talented, very very very talented, and you're

2413
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:41,760
Speaker 4: sitting in your house honted tap into that talent. Don't don't,

2414
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 4: don't let the COVID dry your bank account up.

2415
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 2: Go on, go out there and use y'all talents.

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02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's see this is from Rebecca. They're riding, Karen.

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02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:56,360
Speaker 1: I hope you both like the arrangement. I made this

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02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:58,640
Speaker 1: for you, guys to why are you really? You made

2419
02:05:58,640 --> 02:05:59,200
Speaker 1: this yourself.

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02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 2: That's what I said. Say that, And it's gorgeous, baby.

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02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 1: To celebrate your tenth anniversary, and also as a thank

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02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:08,480
Speaker 1: you for your reading Rainbow segment. I started this in

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02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:14,400
Speaker 1: January and I just finished it this weekend. Wow. She

2424
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:17,040
Speaker 1: worked on this till July twelveth Wow.

2425
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:20,800
Speaker 4: Wow, this is thank you baby, and it's beautiful because

2426
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, Roger, this is gorgeous.

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02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 1: I really love your show, and I wanted to make

2428
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:31,839
Speaker 1: you something that reflected that you highlight so many causes

2429
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:36,040
Speaker 1: and speak your hearts It's refreshing and I can't thank

2430
02:06:36,080 --> 02:06:39,760
Speaker 1: you enough for what you to do. Happy anniversary, and

2431
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:43,520
Speaker 1: I look forward to what the next decade can bring you. Sincerely,

2432
02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:46,160
Speaker 1: Rebecca M. Thank you. Oh what you are something on

2433
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 1: the back directions for care. Compressed airworks best for removing dust.

2434
02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 1: Wet cloth can be used as well. Pedals and leaves

2435
02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 1: can be gently molded back into place. The technique is

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02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 1: called French beaded flowers, bees and wire constructed in the flowers,

2437
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:06,280
Speaker 1: easy care and last forever. Thank you. I will replaced

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02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:09,760
Speaker 1: the succulents have killed with this. Okay, yes it's good.

2439
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:11,320
Speaker 1: Does it even have a little butterfly on it? This

2440
02:07:11,480 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 1: so pretty and it's bright and got so.

2441
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:17,040
Speaker 4: Many colors on it. Baby, you made my types of plants.

2442
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:19,880
Speaker 1: Man, this is so random that y'all decided to send

2443
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:23,520
Speaker 1: us all this shit. I definitely don't think anything happened.

2444
02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 1: I guess the teen year anniversary. I guess they must

2445
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:28,880
Speaker 1: have been it. I don't know, I really I don't know.

2446
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:31,360
Speaker 1: While people this is it's like we went to the

2447
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:33,600
Speaker 1: mailbox on a random Wednesday and there was just like, oh,

2448
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:34,560
Speaker 1: y'all got a lot of shit.

2449
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 2: It was like, for what what happened?

2450
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:43,680
Speaker 1: It's not Christmas? Like, is it June? Team? So this one? Okay?

2451
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 1: So it's this car. Okay, this is the car. First

2452
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 1: of all, check out this car like this black woman.

2453
02:07:51,320 --> 02:07:54,600
Speaker 1: Your excellence is necessary. Y'all see this? Can they see this? Yep?

2454
02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:56,560
Speaker 2: Y'all be coming with the mahogany cards.

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02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's from Dorcascreates dot com. So inside it says

2456
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:06,640
Speaker 1: dear Rid of Karen. I can't tell you how much

2457
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:10,839
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, both through the Rona times, these Rona times,

2458
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:14,440
Speaker 1: and through the ongoing funck shit of racism, capitalism, and

2459
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:17,720
Speaker 1: the complexities of the social media frenzy in which we

2460
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:23,360
Speaker 1: are all trying to process, heal and change. Your voices

2461
02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:26,880
Speaker 1: are Your voices are full of sense and truth and

2462
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,600
Speaker 1: humanity and comfort. And I just want you to know

2463
02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:33,600
Speaker 1: that much. Know how much I learned from you from

2464
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:39,360
Speaker 1: listening to your amazing peerless podcast of dreams. All amazing

2465
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 1: peerless podcasts of dreams. I like it. Put it on

2466
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:45,560
Speaker 1: T shirt. Shout out to the three black owned businesses

2467
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:50,240
Speaker 1: UH and three amazing artists whose vision is in this

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02:08:51,640 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 1: package Dorcas Creates UH. Dorcah's UH macbid Magbadello Pto made

2469
02:09:01,680 --> 02:09:05,680
Speaker 1: this card. The two in the package are from at

2470
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:10,440
Speaker 1: Eclectic Gift, which is Nicola Maguire and The Amazing Book,

2471
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 1: which I feel speaks to the soul of episode fifteen

2472
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 1: fifty nine, The Black Woman Shared Universe or of the

2473
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:23,840
Speaker 1: Black Guy who tells podcast is by at Wild Sugar Suga,

2474
02:09:24,040 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 1: which is Serena Leah Soria. I think this says Serena

2475
02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:34,560
Speaker 1: Mantle maybe so. Oh and then Serena also makes music

2476
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 1: as Serena Leah. Okay, cool man, look at this all right?

2477
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 1: So then oh wait, and there's another note in here too.

2478
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,920
Speaker 1: Apologies for my offer writing. I'm no one's writing words

2479
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: of mine, my off of writing sentence grammar failures. I

2480
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:53,680
Speaker 1: hope y'all feel the love that that and that between

2481
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:56,040
Speaker 1: the days and these very traumatic times, you are both

2482
02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:59,400
Speaker 1: getting timed to rest to punkin spice lette and live

2483
02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:02,040
Speaker 1: your best life. Of course, thank you so much. I

2484
02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:04,280
Speaker 1: just love what you do so much. Lots of love

2485
02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:08,600
Speaker 1: from the UK. Felix, Thank you, Felix. So the card

2486
02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 1: was badass? Oh my goodness, what is this like a print?

2487
02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:15,560
Speaker 1: It's like a card of our own because if it is,

2488
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:19,280
Speaker 1: it's never getting sent out. It is ours now, but

2489
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 1: I think this is like a card of our own.

2490
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:25,080
Speaker 1: This is some badass black art. Let me open this

2491
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 1: thing so y'all.

2492
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:28,480
Speaker 2: Can see be sent nowhere. That's gonna be fair.

2493
02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it comes with an envelope, because I think

2494
02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:34,600
Speaker 1: he's supposed to mail it nobody. Yeah, this is ours.

2495
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:38,400
Speaker 2: This ain't being melt to nobody. This woman in the

2496
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:38,960
Speaker 2: head wrap.

2497
02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:40,160
Speaker 8: Wow.

2498
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 1: And then it got this one with the sister with

2499
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 1: the fro. Can y'all see it?

2500
02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:49,800
Speaker 2: Yes, like the woman the fro is beautiful?

2501
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:54,840
Speaker 1: How big that damn fro is? Oh my god? And

2502
02:10:54,880 --> 02:11:00,600
Speaker 1: then the last one is uh Serena Mantle who said

2503
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:04,520
Speaker 1: women and Patterns and Plants a self care coloring book.

2504
02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:06,040
Speaker 1: First of all, look at this cover.

2505
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 4: Right, all this blackness and Roger going through therapy. You

2506
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:14,320
Speaker 4: got him some color pencil. So I guess I'll be

2507
02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:15,360
Speaker 4: calling beside you now.

2508
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely welcome to color with me, y'all.

2509
02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:19,960
Speaker 8: Love.

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02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, coloring is very relaxing. It is she Oh,

2511
02:11:24,240 --> 02:11:28,680
Speaker 1: she weaves soft, strong bones in wild moonlight, roars mystic songs,

2512
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:31,560
Speaker 1: her home the forest. And then they I guess, like,

2513
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 1: so on one side you got the stay, and and

2514
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 1: the on the other one, you got the picture the

2515
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 1: color in Oh man, this is dope. The power of intention.

2516
02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:43,960
Speaker 1: What five things that you wishing to manifest into your life?

2517
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:45,400
Speaker 1: And then you write that on one side and you

2518
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 1: color on the other side. Man, y'all really, y'all some

2519
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:50,480
Speaker 1: thoughtful motherfuckers.

2520
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:53,520
Speaker 4: Y'all be finding the black black black and shit. I'm like,

2521
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 4: I didn't even.

2522
02:11:54,120 --> 02:11:55,080
Speaker 2: Know this existed.

2523
02:11:55,120 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 4: I was like, is it, Mohogan, I don't know that's

2524
02:11:57,040 --> 02:11:59,240
Speaker 4: what we're calling in the States.

2525
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I want to first of all,

2526
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:04,600
Speaker 1: thank y'all for you know, because we didn't ask for anything,

2527
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:07,800
Speaker 1: but we appreciate y'all doing that, So obviously I want

2528
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:12,320
Speaker 1: to thank y'all. But then secondly, I gotta condemn, condemn

2529
02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:16,320
Speaker 1: all this because this ain't nothing but black capitalism. You

2530
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 1: can't fool me play you think I didn't see what

2531
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 1: you just did. You spent money to give to these

2532
02:12:24,080 --> 02:12:28,120
Speaker 1: blacks so that they can capitalize off of having some

2533
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:31,040
Speaker 1: money in these COVID times. And you know I'm not

2534
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:36,040
Speaker 1: with that bullshit. You're not slick, Okay. Beyonce try and

2535
02:12:36,080 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 1: the NACP tried to combine to give black people, black,

2536
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:42,440
Speaker 1: black small businesses some loans, and you know what I did.

2537
02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 3: I apply for one and I got approve, and.

2538
02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:46,880
Speaker 1: Then I turned it down. I said, I don't want

2539
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:52,400
Speaker 1: your fucking capitalists sweat kidnapping money. Okay, you're not gonna

2540
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:54,840
Speaker 1: get me, baby, I'm too woke. I'd rather be on

2541
02:12:54,920 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 1: these streets and keep my purity and let all you

2542
02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:01,520
Speaker 1: people with money that's black feel compromised. Well, I'm just

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Speaker 1: more li pure, laying in the middle of the street, homeless,

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02:13:05,800 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 1: but at least I have my integrity.

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Speaker 2: Felix nice try.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, We'll talk to the rest of y'all later. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening. We'll talk to y'all later. Everybody, Until then,

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Speaker 1: I love you, Yeah,