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Speaker 1: From the Rams studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons. I'm with DeMarco far.

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Speaker 1: It is just after noon on January tenth, twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and the Rams are now out of the PLOS season,

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Speaker 1: which is unfortunate after losing to the Atlanta Falcons there

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. But far Sean McVay has said this, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's true just because they lost that game

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't unfortunate way to lose. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: drive the ball away two times, and I think that

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Speaker 1: was really the difference. But anyways, Sean mcvah has said,

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Speaker 1: you know that loss does not take away from what

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Speaker 1: the Rams were able to accomplish, and god knows. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just because you lost to Atlanta or lost in the

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Speaker 1: postseason does it doesn't mean you're a bad football team.

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Speaker 1: It just means you lost that day. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that they're a bad football team by any mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't say that. I mean we always

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Speaker 1: talk about this. You'll hear me say this on pretty

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Speaker 1: much every Between the Horns or mail Bag. Best team

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Speaker 1: on game day. It doesn't matter about records or how

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Speaker 1: you performed. It only matters how you perform on that day.

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Speaker 1: And you have to give Atlanta credit. That defense performed great, admirably.

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Speaker 1: They were in the right spots, they made one on

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Speaker 1: one tackles, They took away some things offensively from the

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Speaker 1: Rams and made them adjust to life without and Atlanta

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Speaker 1: got to win. The takeaways to me were the killers men.

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Speaker 1: I mean it really And I was going to say

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Speaker 1: this earlier. Man, anytime your team turns the ball over,

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Speaker 1: you might as well add fifty pounds of weight to

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Speaker 1: that defense that you have to carry around, because now

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Speaker 1: you have to dig yourself out of that hole time

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Speaker 1: and time again, and it taxes you defensively. And no

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Speaker 1: shock the third quarter they came out running. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: came out and absolutely put you in a phone booth

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Speaker 1: and started pounding you. That was the effect of the turnover.

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Speaker 1: And especially without Michael Brockers too. Michael Brocker's had that

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Speaker 1: knee injury and so when Michael Brockers goes out, that's

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Speaker 1: one of the big run stuffers that the Rams had. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why Atlanta was able to get sixteen play drive,

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Speaker 1: you know, ten play drive, hold the ball for thirteen minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in that third quarter that really kind of took the

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Speaker 1: rams out of it. They removed the redwood from the road,

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Speaker 1: Michael Brockers, and then they just drove the train through.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, it is what it is. I mean, Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: this is when you go back to experience. And maybe

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Speaker 1: it's not postseason experience. I just talk about experience as

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Speaker 1: being a good football team. Talking about Matt Ryan, once

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Speaker 1: they get ahead of you and chop a leg out,

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Speaker 1: they're just gonna keep leaning. They're gonna keep leaning on

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Speaker 1: you once they get the lead. Remember before Atlanta and

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan caught fire, when they became this offensive Juggernauts

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Speaker 1: scoring forty points a game last season. The years before that,

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Speaker 1: they would get ahead of you by three, four points

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Speaker 1: and just stay there right and just and beat you

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Speaker 1: to the finish line. And I think you saw a

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Speaker 1: little bit of that on Saturday. Yeah, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: definitely part of it. But you know, you bring up

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Speaker 1: the big game experiences, just the game experience. One thing

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Speaker 1: that struck me after that game was when Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: was talking about how Jared Goff was asked about, oh,

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Speaker 1: you guys didn't have much playoff experience and you know,

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Speaker 1: do you really think that that had an effect? And

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Speaker 1: he goes, I don't only know what that means, because

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Speaker 1: you know, we've played in big games and we didn't

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Speaker 1: play well enough to win. He said, if we didn't play,

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Speaker 1: if we played like this two weeks ago, we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have won. Men. Right, So it's not necessarily about okay,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, that the game is that different. It's do

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Speaker 1: you play well enough to win in a certain game

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Speaker 1: at that time, you know, any given Sunday or Saturday,

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Speaker 1: as the case may have. Jared said that, I'm really

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Speaker 1: starting to like him. Yeah, I mean, that's that's I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's a relationship. We're growing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I love that sort of leadership coming out of

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Speaker 1: your quarterback position. That is the that's the exact right

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Speaker 1: thing to say. If we played like this before, we're

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Speaker 1: not in the postseason. So um, the experience, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it matters, but sometimes it gets a little overblown. I

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Speaker 1: think it's just it just it matters how well you

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Speaker 1: play that day, right. And I talked to Jamon Brown

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Speaker 1: after the game and he basically said the same kind

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Speaker 1: week we practiced well, we prepared well, but it just

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Speaker 1: didn't work out. Today. We did not play well when

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Speaker 1: we need it to, and that that's more of the

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Speaker 1: big thing than was it because of this? Wasn't because

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Speaker 1: of that. It's just you just didn't make the plays. Sometimes.

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Speaker 1: It's sometimes it's shocking when a team comes right after

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Speaker 1: your weakness, because the whole thing about football is disguising

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Speaker 1: your weakness. Yeah, at some point it becomes obvious where

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Speaker 1: you're weak, and then they go right at it and

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Speaker 1: you're surprised at it. So as soon as Michael Brockers

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Speaker 1: goes out, I think the next five run plays hit

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Speaker 1: to that same gap sure where he would line up right,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's usually what's going to happen. That's what Well,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Good, that's the shocking part, right, But that's

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Speaker 1: what good teams, that's what good coaches do. You know,

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Speaker 1: they take advantage of those types of things. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've got a like a third string corner out there

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Speaker 1: immediately nine route, right, Yeah, that's that's good football. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is, um But I think before we kind of

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Speaker 1: because really. I mean, but we could recap the game

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Speaker 1: until we're blue in the face. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: here's the point. What. Yeah, you guys saw it. We

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Speaker 1: all saw it. You know, the season's over. And but

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Speaker 1: I do want to go to what Farrell Cooper was

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Speaker 1: the game, and he took responsibility for both of those

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Speaker 1: things after the game, and then also on Sunday when

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Speaker 1: they were doing the locker room clean out, and basically

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Speaker 1: he says, you know that first one with Blake Countess

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Speaker 1: goes off of him, and he says, I should have

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Speaker 1: made the poison call, which basically means just get out

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Speaker 1: then something bad would happen. And then he also was

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Speaker 1: second one, when they strip, he goes through the spin move,

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Speaker 1: he comes out. Somebody just waxed their arm down and

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Speaker 1: then ball comes out. So it's not it's not like Pharaoh.

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Speaker 1: Cooper didn't take responsibility for that you know, he was

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Speaker 1: very contriting. Then you also saw on Twitter how he posted,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I'm sorry Ram's Nation and I'll be

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Speaker 1: back in better next season. And he includes his players

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Speaker 1: middle of it. We called it the Peter call, Peter,

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Speaker 1: that was all covered before. And then you know, once

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Speaker 1: a player. So there's a mistake there. And then the

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Speaker 1: takeaway when he gets knocked out of there. You have

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Speaker 1: to give them credit for getting the ball out. But

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Speaker 1: So it is what it is. I mean, you'd like

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Speaker 1: to have those plays back, and those plays directly led

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Speaker 1: out of the postseason. But it's not like anybody in

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Speaker 1: this room or in this building is down on Farrell Cooper. No,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be here without him, right and you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be And he's going to go to the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And he's earned that, you know, he's earned being an

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Speaker 1: punt returner this season. And that's really interesting to me,

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Speaker 1: You remember the Rams had so many issues just fielding

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Speaker 1: you know, in Jacksonville he takes on both roles in Boom,

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Speaker 1: is he should have been Yes, yeah, he should have

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Speaker 1: learn from this experience. But no one is down on

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Speaker 1: Farrell Cooper, and Farrell Cooper shouldn't be down on Barrel Cooper. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Look he's going to be at the Pro Bowl. Andrew

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Speaker 1: Whitworth just named yesterday to the Pro Bowl, replacing Trinity.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's so funny. Yeah, just named yesterday and yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not what I'm laughing away. Oh, congratulations, thirty five

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Speaker 1: year old. Your reward for playing well is another game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. You're going to Disney World, right, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: actually that's cool. Good to bring the family Disney. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so no, the Rams have six pro bowlers and it

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Speaker 1: looks like they will most likely have a seven. You

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Speaker 1: can't really announce that Goff would replace Carson Wentz, who

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Speaker 1: obviously is not going until the Eagles are knocked out

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs. So, but golf is the first alternate there.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz not going to be playing. I think we

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Speaker 1: So that's really good. I mean, you have Golf, probably

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Speaker 1: in addition to it. Well, this is why this guy

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Speaker 1: isn't falling, because you can be right back in this

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Speaker 1: same position next sea. Right, You've got a good core,

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Speaker 1: some ability to make moves to get even better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get to We'll try to get to everything we want

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Speaker 1: to get to. But if we don't, then we'll be

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Speaker 1: back in the next But I do want to start

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Speaker 1: talking about the off season because let's let's just turn

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Speaker 1: the page and let's get there. Um, the Rams are

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Speaker 1: going to have a lot of decisions to make in

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Speaker 1: terms of contracts and free agents. I mean, you talk

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Speaker 1: then wide receiver Sammy Watkins. Those are guys, all of

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Speaker 1: league year starts on March fourteen. Well, LaMarcus must be done.

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Speaker 1: He's earned it, and this defense must be done. As

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Speaker 1: must stake he must that contract must get done. I

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Speaker 1: think he's, like you said, I think he's at the

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Speaker 1: embryo stage of a great career. I agree. I think

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Speaker 1: the rest of the world is about to catch up

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Speaker 1: to how good he is. I think you saw it finally.

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Speaker 1: You know that was the thing about being a team

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Speaker 1: that was a below five hundred. Sometimes you're great seasons

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Speaker 1: no one sees or cares about. But I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: So now he's going to get the credit he deserves.

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Speaker 1: You could be nominated, right, you might not win, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look it's great just to be honest. I

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Speaker 1: think Kareem Hunt had a fantastic season. But Todd didn't

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Speaker 1: play Week seventeen. He did not, Okay, so anyway, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he should be right where you're going with that? Sounded

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Speaker 1: right led the league in rushing. All right, So, as

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Speaker 1: we said, do you have to cut this one a

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Speaker 1: little bit short, but any final words before we kind

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Speaker 1: of rapp We just got started in here, I know,

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Speaker 1: we've just got started to cut me off like it's personal.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like me. Right now, out of here, Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I got him assignment. No, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: the rest of the show with you, DeMarco, say again,

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Speaker 1: I'll do the rest of the show. Just get out

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Speaker 1: of here. Yeah, we'll finish the show. No final words.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic year eleven wins is great. A lot of teams

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Speaker 1: would would I don't want to say kill for that,

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Speaker 1: but very very very very very I know a lot

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Speaker 1: long careers and not reach the netted eleven wins and

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Speaker 1: become division champs. So there's a lot to be proud

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Speaker 1: of and there's a lot to build on. I think

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Speaker 1: so too, and I don't think I can put it

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Speaker 1: any better than that. So, guys, hey, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for listening and watching and tuning in as you

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Speaker 1: have all throughout the twenty seventeen season. It helps us

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Speaker 1: this thing grow. And you know what, I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: see where Between the Horns goes in twenty eighteen and

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Speaker 1: where the Rams go in twenty eighteen, for sure, So

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Speaker 1: for DeMarco, far for producer Matt A. Miles Simmons, we'll

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Speaker 1: see you guys around