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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. We have got a fun and busy

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Speaker 2: episode today. We're going to touch on a wide variety

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Speaker 2: about Christian Walker, one of the potential first base candidates

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Speaker 2: for the Yankees this winter, and somebody who he calls

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Speaker 2: the most underrated player in baseball. We'll also talk about

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Speaker 2: one of the legitimately dumbest ideas I've ever heard of

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Speaker 2: in my life, the Golden at Bat rule. Plus, we've

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Speaker 2: got a conversation with Clint Pisias about Juan Soto's character.

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Speaker 2: We'll also have Scott Braun of Foul Territory stopping by

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Speaker 2: to preview what I think is going to be a

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Speaker 2: wild and crazy winter Meetings. All of that and more

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Speaker 2: coming up next. This is Pinstripe Territory. All right, Welcome back, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, and if you're new, welcome for the first

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Speaker 2: time to Pinstripe Territory, the official Yankees podcast of the

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Speaker 2: Foul Territory Network. Hope you are ready for some winter

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Speaker 2: meeting action, because I know I am. I have been

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Speaker 2: gearing up, getting my adrenaline going by watching some classic fights.

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Speaker 2: I've been watching Ali versus Foreman for about the last

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Speaker 2: half an hour. What a fight, Rumble in the Jungle.

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Speaker 2: Happy one year anniversary to Juan Soto. He was traded

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Speaker 2: to the Yankees one year ago. It seems like a

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Speaker 2: good night to announce that you're coming back, right as

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Speaker 2: Action VJ says, can we get the signing live? I

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Speaker 2: promise you if Juan Soto signs while we're on the

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Speaker 2: I should keep an eye on Twitter just in case.

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Speaker 2: I will get alerts on my watch and phone and

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. But I'm still in the camp of

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Speaker 2: bringing back Wan Soto just because I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: a generational talent like that, and it's not just so

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Speaker 2: much soda, but the tandem of Judge and Sodo together

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Speaker 2: is special, right. But I'm also gonna look at the

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Speaker 2: bright side. Like I can tell you guys ahead of time,

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna be cope or whatever the kids say.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be you know, realism that if he does

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Speaker 2: you know, we'll get to all of that, but first

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about this Golden at Bat rule,

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Speaker 2: which is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard

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Speaker 2: of in my life. And I've heard some dumb stuff,

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Speaker 2: and Rob Manford, the Commissioner, has said some crazy stuff

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Speaker 2: and implemented some crazy stuff over the years. You know,

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Speaker 2: and he basically implemented seven inning doubleheaders in this ghost

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Speaker 2: but this one takes the cake. They're floating this rule

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Speaker 2: called the Golden at bat, which means at one at

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Speaker 2: any point during a game, right any point throughout the game,

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Speaker 2: the manager could send up any player they want to hit.

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Speaker 2: So you could have Aaron Judge hit twice in a

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Speaker 2: he'd basically get one hundred and sixty two extra at

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Speaker 2: gonna usually go with Aaron Judge there. It would destroy stats,

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Speaker 2: it would screw with strategy. I mean, I just don't look.

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to send Judge up twice in the

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Speaker 2: Every year, dozens of people fall off of cliffs taking selfies.

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Speaker 2: Those are bad ideas. Shaking vending machines to try and

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Speaker 2: so let's talk a little bit about Christian Walker. He

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Speaker 2: I've been maintaining that Cody Bellinger would be the perfect

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Speaker 2: It's about ten minutes and it's basically a breakdown of

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Speaker 3: As far as Christian Walker goes, he is perhaps the

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Speaker 3: it's not a long term like it would not be

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Speaker 3: think you're absolutely spot on about it. I think Walker

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they were paying Josh Donaldson twenty five

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Speaker 2: seen him hit some absolute bombs. I see a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it absolutely matches the eye test. He is to me,

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Speaker 2: Who else do you think could be a good fit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his market is going to be robust,

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Speaker 3: I think the Seattle Mariners make a lot of sense

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Speaker 3: because if you look at them, they need a bat

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Speaker 3: in the worst way. They need multiple bats, and they've

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Speaker 3: But I think they make a lot of sense. The

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't pull any punches. We miss him. He

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Speaker 2: Juan Soto. There is a very good chance that he's

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Speaker 2: director extraordinaire on the Foul Territory Network, host of Pinstripe Territory.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I feel like. You ever see

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Speaker 4: got to talk Uan Soto. I'll set the stage a

430
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Speaker 4: little bit here. We understand. You know, six hundred million

431
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Speaker 4: dollars north of six hundred million is the report, possibly

432
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 4: twelve years longer assumed opt outs after three or four years.

433
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 4: Yankees in the mix, Mets in the mix, Boston Blue

434
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 4: Jays in the mix. Dodgers also remain in the mix.

435
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Speaker 2: Uh, and they're all.

436
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 4: Figure to be in the mix, according to multiple reports,

437
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 4: for Dodgers fans, there's this narrative that's that's grown. And

438
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 4: we were talking just a second before hitting the record button.

439
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 4: Here is this narrative that has grown since fans were

440
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 4: chanting future Dodger to Juan Soto at the twenty twenty

441
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 4: two All Star Game at Dodger Stadium.

442
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: They hate him.

443
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 4: There's a lot of fans that hate one Soto. They

444
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: don't want to see Won Soto in a Dodger uniform.

445
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 4: They think he's some sort of clubhouse poison, clubhouse cancer,

446
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: that he'll ruin the team in this great era, the

447
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 4: show Hey O Tani era where they're supposed to go

448
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 4: out and win one hundred and fifty World Series and

449
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 4: all that. We saw Tommy Cainley today on Foul Tell

450
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: the guys like, look, he's a great guy. He's awesome,

451
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 4: great clubhouse guy, blew me away, great teammate, great player. Yeah,

452
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 4: you're probably gonna say that, especially when your team is

453
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 4: trying to bring him back.

454
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: I need to know.

455
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 4: Listen, you covered this team, covered the Yankees all season long,

456
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 4: so well as you do there on Pinstrip Territory formerly

457
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 4: New York Yankees or nyy recap, give me some insight,

458
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 4: what is your what's like your taste bedphracing of One Soto,

459
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 4: the player, the person in the clubhouse. Sure, and I

460
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: can understand too, like even after that loss, like like

461
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: he he has to switch on his his Scott Boris

462
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: cap a little bit. Some of the things he had

463
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: in his postgame scrum with media not too like, you know,

464
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 4: I want to focus right now. No, we're already looking

465
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 4: forward to the offseason, looking forward to free agency. But yeah,

466
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Speaker 4: I want I want to taste some thoughts here on

467
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Speaker 4: one Soto.

468
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Speaker 2: So let me start by saying, the New York media

469
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: is always looking for conflict within any of the clubhouses

470
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: of any of the New York teams. You know, you

471
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: talk about the rivalry between Garig and Ruth going back

472
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: that far, and then Mantlin Marris in the sixty one

473
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: season they're both chasing down Ruth's record. And then it

474
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: was you know, Reggie and Thurman in the seventies, and

475
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: then you know Jeter and a Rod. And usually where

476
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: there's some smoke, there's some fire. You find out that

477
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 2: you know, there were a lot of rivalries at times

478
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: between these guys, you saw none of them this year

479
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 2: with Judge and Soto. Apparently there's been rumors that there

480
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: was something between you know, Soto and you know Tattis

481
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: or Machado, But it seems like that was kind of

482
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: overblown because all I saw from Juan Soto was a

483
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: great teammate. Every time the camera would pan to him

484
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: in the dugout, he was smiling and laughing with somebody.

485
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 2: And you know, he's a guy as a player, who

486
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we know what he is. Offensively, He's an

487
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: amazing offensive talent. He's got a great arm in right field.

488
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: The only chinks in his armor are that he thinks

489
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: he's faster than he is, so that leads to a

490
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: lot of times getting thrown I had the same problem.

491
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: I was slow, but I was like man, but he

492
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: would get thrown out a lot on the basis stupidly

493
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: and then also he's not a great defender, especially going

494
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: back on the ball. I thought the Yankees really missed

495
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: out by not playing him deeper he would they would

496
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 2: have him played kind of shallow to mac his his

497
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: throwing arm. You know, he threw a lot of guys

498
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: out at second a lot of guys out at home.

499
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: But he's not good at going back on the ball.

500
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: Led to some triples, you know, we saw one in

501
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: the World Series. So while he's a great player and

502
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: a great teammate, I don't I mean, I've been hung

503
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: up all winter about whether or not it's really the Yankees'

504
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: best interest to spend six hundred million dollars on this

505
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: guy when you got so many other big contracts. So

506
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: while I'm rooting for the Yankees to sign him, you know,

507
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: it'll be great for me. It'll be great for my show,

508
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: It'll be a lot. It'll be very fun next year

509
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: to award him Player of the Game forty times or so.

510
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: But if they lose him, I think there's a chance

511
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: that the Yankees could reassemble an even better team by

512
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: spreading some money around, by going and get a Max

513
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: Freed and maybe you know somebody else. But make no mistake,

514
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: he is an excellent player and an excellent clubhouse guy.

515
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 2: I didn't see any hint of, you know, a cocky attitude.

516
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: You know, some guys don't handle the New York media.

517
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: Well.

518
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: Whenever he had a bad game, which was rare, he

519
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: would own up to it. He would stand in front

520
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: of his locker and take the questions. He was never

521
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: ducking out. He wasn't one of these guys who posts

522
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: stupid stuff on social media. He posts pictures of like

523
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: his gaming set up, like he's a gamer. He's not

524
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: gonna go out. He's not doc good and going out

525
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: and doing blow at three am in Queen's. He's not

526
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: that guy, right, He's he's a He's a He's a

527
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: kid who's into gaming and hitting baseballs. And there's really

528
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: not a lot to that. And he keep in mind

529
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: twenty six years old, Clint, who were you at twenty

530
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: six years old? Were you a finished product? I know

531
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Speaker 2: I wasn't, absolutely not twenty six He's going to grow

532
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: as a human being. And I think a lot of

533
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: the decision that he's making right now is who does

534
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: he want to grow with? What organization does he want

535
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 2: to be a part of his legacy? Because you have

536
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: to think in terms of more than just your salary

537
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: when you're talking about your next fifteen years of your career,

538
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: right you have to consider where do I want to

539
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: raise my family? Where do I you know, what we're

540
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: the tax situations, like what's my distance like to the Ballpark.

541
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Speaker 2: Do I have to you know, drive from Connecticut to

542
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: get to you know, or can I live in you know,

543
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: the suburbs of Toronto and have a five minute walk

544
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: to the stadium that type of thing. So there's a

545
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: lot to consider with the Dodgers.

546
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: Listen, you can be five minutes away, it's still going

547
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: to be thirty minutes away because of traffic. We know

548
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: the Dodgers figured out also how to just get rid

549
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: of the whole tax situation with with signing bonuses and

550
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 4: deferrals and all of that. But yeah, that's the main

551
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: thing I want to know, and that's we know the

552
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 4: talent is.

553
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: There and and.

554
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: Everything we've heard since that World Series about the Yankees,

555
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: everybody knew you just had to wait for them to

556
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: kind of, as Chris Taylor said, you know, ship down

557
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: their own leg I've been trying to tell people who

558
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: complained about the defense and all that we on Soda

559
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: will be a better player. He'll be a better defensive player.

560
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: The stat cast numbers will go from the deepest blues

561
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: to maybe a nice, you know, very soft red if

562
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: he's in Dodger blue. Because of how they set their

563
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: players up for success on the field. There's there's coaches

564
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: there that tell them, hey, maybe you should go here.

565
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: Here's a little guard and you should stand here. This

566
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: is where this player hits, and this is how this

567
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: pitcher is going to try to pitch them all that

568
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: he would be a better player in Dodger Blue. But

569
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: going back to another thing you said, this is where

570
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: I feel people are trying to talk themselves out of

571
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: like one Soto or maybe trying not to get hurt,

572
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: like you know, if I, you know, ask this girl

573
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 4: out and she rejects me or whatever, she was a bitch. Anyways,

574
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: you know, it's like preemptive coach, It's preemptive copium for sure.

575
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: Right there.

576
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: And and you you could say, you you the team

577
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: is a lot better, you know, reallocating those assets otherwhere

578
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: other places. You know, we know the Yankees need a

579
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: first baseman, probably need a three b. We'll need an

580
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: outfielder if one Sodo doesn't return, need some pitching help.

581
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 4: And you know, six hundred million dollars over twelve years

582
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: or whatever can help, you know, fill a lot of

583
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: those cracks. And the same with Dodgers fans, you know,

584
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: like six hundred on top of a seven hundred million

585
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: dollar deal and a three twenty five, and there's a

586
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: lot of money going around, and you know, we love

587
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: to say it's not our money, and this team prints

588
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: money or whatever. But at some point you know that

589
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: it's something's gonna break, something's gonna give, and it's going

590
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: to be a problem having all of those pieces.

591
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: And then you know an eight guy in his.

592
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: Late thirties still playing, trying to play either you know

593
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: at that point, d H or whatever the hell it is.

594
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 4: I think Wan Soto can hit late into his thirties,

595
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: but when you're talking about him defensively and on the

596
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: base paths and then whatever, like those are things you

597
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: can quantify. You could you could look at the stat caast,

598
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: you could try to get him better on those. But

599
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: it's the clubhouse thing. I want people to understand. We're

600
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: making up this narrative. Yeah, you're making up this narrative

601
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 4: because he wore a Padres uniform for a year and

602
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 4: a half. I think that's what it is. And the

603
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: stink of of Manny Machado, Jerrikson, Profar, Fernando Tatists, I

604
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 4: think that's what Dodgers fans are really really, you know,

605
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: sinking their claws into and holding on to you, at

606
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: least the fans that don't want soda. The sentiment again,

607
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: he lacks class. Ye, he lacks character. You say no,

608
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: you you, you pooh pooh on that.

609
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: He's he's a he's a really great kid. He's a

610
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: smart kid. When Scott Boris and a lot of what

611
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: comes out of Scott Forres's mouth is bs. When Scott

612
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: Boris talked about him, he said he's a really methodical thinker.

613
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: And I agree with that one. You can see it

614
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: in his bats. He's going up there with a plan

615
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: and he's you know, thinking through every pitch. He's trying

616
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: to he's playing chess up there. And I and I

617
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: don't think you can be like that as a player

618
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: without being like that as a person. Right. It's like

619
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: you can't just get on the field and just magically

620
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: have a super high baseball IQ. And in terms of

621
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: the other facets of his game, he gets compared to

622
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: Ted Williams because he was a great hitter, and Kratz

623
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: had a great point to the unfoul territory, he said.

624
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: Ted Williams wrote a book on hitting called The Science

625
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: of Hitting. He didn't write anything about fielding like and

626
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: nobody cares like. You know, you get you get Ted

627
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: Williams because he can hit. You get Jan Soto because

628
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: he's a generational bat. And I'll tell you what, if

629
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: you guys get him, you're gonna really enjoy those mini battles,

630
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: those those Go back and watch the bat that won

631
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: the Yankees the pennant against the Guardians. I guess it

632
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: was Tanner Bide. I believe it was pitching, and it

633
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: was an eight pitch at bat, maybe seven pitches, and

634
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: you could see that Sodo was trying to get him

635
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: to throw the high fastball. He was like, I'm gonna

636
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna spit on anything that's down low because it's

637
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: gonna be breaking, or I'm gonna hit it on the

638
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: ground anything that was up if it wasn't up enough.

639
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: He was. He was almost intentionally swinging late just to spoiler,

640
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: and he wanted that pitch right here. He said, I'm

641
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: gonna get under it, I'm gonna put backspin on it,

642
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: and you could you could see him, you could see

643
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: this unfolding in his mind. And I must have watched

644
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: that bat ten times this offseason in its entirety and

645
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: it's one of the most professional bats I've ever seen.

646
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: And like I said, kids all smiles. He's not I mean,

647
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: he's not gonna be out partying with strippers. He's a

648
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: good kid. He's a good kid, all right. We got

649
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: some news on that Clay Holmes deal. Apparently the deal

650
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: is three years, thirty eight million dollars. This via Jeff Passing,

651
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 2: with an opt out after the second year. There's been

652
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 2: some talk that Clay Holmes could work as a starting pitcher,

653
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting to see what happens with the Mets.

654
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: As for Juan Soto, I think we're going to get

655
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: a discussion over the next couple of days between him

656
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: and the Yankees, and he will let them know. And

657
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna come down to Yankees Red Sox.

658
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: I don't think that the Dodgers are really that into it.

659
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: I think the Mets are serious, and I think that's

660
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: ultimately gonna be his landing spot, and I think that

661
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays will have one of the highest offers.

662
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: But I honestly don't think he wants to play in Canada,

663
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: and nobody wants to play in Canada, So you know,

664
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm still predicting he'll go to the Mets. But we'll see.

665
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 2: We've got another interview here coming up with Scott Brown

666
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: when we'll talk about Soto and some other things. But

667
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: first I want to talk a little bit about Max

668
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: Freed and Corbyn Burns. The Yankees have been linked to

669
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: both of these guys in recent days, and they are

670
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: the two best starting pitchers on the market, right. And

671
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: if the Yankees are trying to go in a different

672
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: direction where more run prevention to make up for some

673
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: of the offense that you're gonna lose with Sodo Gone,

674
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: I could see them going after one of these guys.

675
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: I really like Max Freed as a pitcher. I heard

676
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: one of the New York Beat writers, I can't remember

677
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: which one I think it was, perhaps Joel Sherman describe

678
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 2: him as Jimmy Key, right, And if you guys remember

679
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: Jimmy Key from the nineties, he was essential to that team.

680
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and take a look at the

681
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: stat cast numbers for Max Freed. First of the traditional numbers,

682
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: twenty nine starts eleven to ten, record three point twenty

683
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: five era. Before that, you see back to back seasons

684
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: with a sub three ERA two point four eight and

685
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: twenty two, two point five five in twenty three. Just

686
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: fourteen starts last year. Not quite a strikeout inninning, one

687
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six strikeouts in one hundred and seventy

688
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: four and a third innings. He throws from the left side.

689
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: He's a big, skinny, tall lefty six four to one ninety.

690
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: He's thirty years old, and he is well above average

691
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: and everything you see the stat cast numbers. Pitching run

692
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: value seventy six percent tile, fastball run value seventy ninth percentile.

693
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: The fastball velo won't blow you away. It's at ninety

694
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: three point eight on average, but he spots it well

695
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: about league average in terms of walks. But he keeps

696
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: the ball off of the barrel eighty nine percent tile.

697
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: He throws that cutter a lot. Hard. Hit percentage way

698
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: up there, ground ball percentage way up there. So he

699
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: changed SPADs, he mixes pitches. I think he could be

700
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: one of these crafty lefties who does very very well

701
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: in Yankee Stadium. Now Corbyn burns. We saw him with

702
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: the Orioles this year. Obviously, a former cy Young Award winner,

703
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: bigger guy, different type of pitcher than Max freed six

704
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty five pounds. He's thirty years old,

705
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: twelve and eight in twenty two, two point nine four

706
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: ERA two hundred and forty three strikeouts in two hundred

707
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: and two winnings in twenty three, ten and eight three

708
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: point three nine with the Brewers got traded to the

709
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: Orioles this year, helped them basically stay in the race

710
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: until very very late in the season fifteen to nine

711
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 2: record two point nine to ERA thirty two starts. Worth

712
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: noting also a Scott Boris client. Now, the one thing

713
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: that concerns me about burns, and this might not be

714
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: a huge concern because he's throwing the cutter. More is

715
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: that the strikeouts have dropped every year. You go back

716
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: two years, two hundred and forty three strikeouts last year,

717
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: two hundred strikeouts this year one hundred eighty one, and

718
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: the whip walks and hits per innings pitched has gone

719
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: in the opposite direction of what you're looking for. Zero

720
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: point nine seven and twenty two, one point oh seven

721
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: in twenty three and one point one zero this year.

722
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: Now still very good, still very very good, but trending

723
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: out of his prime. Now you look at the pitch.

724
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: Use it.

725
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: He throws the cutter forty five percent of the time.

726
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: It's on average ninety five miles an hour. Also got

727
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: a good curveball, good slider, change up, sinker, and a sweeper.

728
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: He's a really good guy. He's been on foul Territory

729
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: a number of times and I would have no complaints

730
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: about bringing him in. But it worries me bringing in

731
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: a guy who's uh, you know, on the wrong side

732
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 2: of thirty and a power pitcher, because power pitchers lose

733
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 2: arm speed as they get older. Everybody loses arm speed

734
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: as they get older. So let me know you in

735
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: the comments if there's one or the other that you

736
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: are hoping the Yankees pick up. I personally, if I

737
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: were Cashman and I lose out on Juan Soto, I

738
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: go out. I get Max Freed, among others. And that's

739
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: something that I wanted to talk about with Scott Braun

740
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: of foul Territory. Now, Scott is a colleague of mine.

741
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: We work together every single day, and we're gonna just

742
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about Wan Soda. We're gonna put

743
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: some of the names up on the screen. We're gonna

744
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: talk about the Soto contract, we're gonna talk about the

745
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 2: Winter Meetings all that good stuff. So joining me now

746
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 2: as I load up the video for a quick, i'd

747
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: say fifteen minute discussion is Scott Braun of Foul Territory.

748
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: I kind of have a theory about this year's Winter

749
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: Meetings that I want to throw at you and tell

750
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: me if you disagree with this. But if I'm an

751
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: executive at Major League Baseball and I watched last year's

752
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: Winter Meetings unfold in the way it did with practically

753
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: nothing happening, I've got advertisers that are probably pretty ticked

754
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: that their logo isn't on you know, the billboard behind

755
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: the guys doing the doing the press conferences. You're not

756
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: seeing water bottles on tables with the Aquafina logo or

757
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: the Monster Energy or whatever. And I have to reassure

758
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: my advertisers there's gonna be some action this year. So

759
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: for the past couple of weeks, I've probably been on

760
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: the phone to some agents like, hey, we got to

761
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: move the needle this year, and to some executives of

762
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: the high dollar hey, maybe hold off if you're gonna

763
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: announce something a couple of days ahead of time. If

764
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: you got a deal worked off, maybe just stick it

765
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: in a folder for a couple of days and let's

766
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: have a crazy winter meetings. Do you agree with that

767
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory?

768
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 5: I agree with half of it. I'll go half in okay.

769
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 5: I think those are conversations that come up at the

770
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 5: GM meetings. Hey, guys, last year not enough. How do

771
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: we stir this up more? And it doesn't always have

772
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 5: to be hard and fast rules, because ultimately the gms

773
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 5: the president of Baseball Operations have bosses, and their bosses

774
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 5: can say, let's get this done. I'll give you the

775
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 5: easiest example that just came up. Luis Savarino signs. Five

776
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 5: seconds later, they release, Hey, season tickets are going to

777
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 5: be on sale on Monday for the Sacramento as that

778
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 5: is on purpose. They got deal done at that time

779
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: on purpose. So that plays to what you're talking about.

780
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 5: At the same time, it's not the front office's job,

781
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 5: as in the GM, in the POBO to make a

782
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 5: move because it's going to help the ad dollars for MLB.

783
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 5: It was the same problem that plagued the sport for

784
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 5: a while with certain rules. The theoepsceans of the world

785
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: are like, cool, I'm going to value this. I'm also

786
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 5: going to tell my catcher to call time out every

787
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 5: five seconds because we think there's an advantage to that

788
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 5: that's bad for the game. So fifty to fifty. It's

789
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 5: getting talked about but not enforced.

790
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I still think we're going to have a

791
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: crazy mate. I think somebody wants time But yeah.

792
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 5: I think that's timing. I think that's just jan Soto

793
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 5: wanting to sign at this point and not wait until January.

794
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 5: That will then cause a ripple effect. This market's way

795
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 5: better than it was last year. But you're right, and

796
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 5: we've gotten a ton of questions at foul Territory. Hey,

797
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 5: why don't you guys going to be at winter meetings?

798
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 5: One of the reasons why it isn't the sexiest thing

799
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 5: for advertisers right now. And there's not a guarantee that

800
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 5: a bunch of stuff's going to happen, So it's cool

801
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 5: to be amongst your friends and colleagues, and we'll be

802
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: there in the future. But that was the one event

803
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 5: we looked at and said, hey, this is expensive for

804
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: us to be at, and the general public of advertisers

805
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 5: are not that enamored by it right now because there's

806
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 5: not a guarantee of action.

807
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: And speaking of Juan Soto, there's that professional segue. You

808
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: may just leading us into that topic. You made your

809
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: prediction today. It's a prediction that I've heard a lot

810
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: of people make. Buster Only was on this very show

811
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: and he predicted it. Where's he gonna land?

812
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 5: Sixteen years, seven hundred and one million dollars to the

813
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: New York Mets. I think the Mets have been the

814
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 5: high bid the whole time, and I think now we're

815
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 5: at the stage of being cute and dancing and just

816
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 5: trying to stir up some more interest and say, oh,

817
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 5: the offers are getting higher. But I think there's been

818
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: somewhat of a stop put on some of these offers.

819
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 5: I really don't think this is being bounced around at

820
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 5: this point with four teams going, let's up it a

821
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: little more, let's up it a little more. I think

822
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: that Boris might just be getting the price up a

823
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 5: little bit for the New York Mets. There's scenarios you

824
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 5: always hear about this when it's the big money players,

825
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 5: that oh, the Mets had the big offer at six

826
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 5: point fifty, and he said the Red Sox say name

827
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 5: your price. And the Yankees are going to match up

828
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 5: to this point, and now we got them to seven

829
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 5: oh one, and really six point fifty was always the

830
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 5: highest offer. There's a great Zach Rankey story about this

831
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 5: with Casey Close and how he got the Diamondbacks to

832
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: pay way more money because they came in last minute.

833
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: So anyway, that's my prediction. I think Steve Cohen has

834
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 5: the most money to offer. And it's not just the

835
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 5: money though, Derek, it is the payroll situation. The Mets

836
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 5: are in a very favorable payroll spot right now. The

837
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 5: Yankees aren't in as favorable of the spot. The Mets

838
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 5: can afford to take on a forty five to fifty

839
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 5: plus million dollars a year player and not have it

840
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 5: hurt as much, especially when David Stearns doesn't look like

841
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 5: he's going to be in on some of the big

842
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 5: ticket starters. It looks like his mindset going forward is

843
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: going to be, let me get a bunch of these

844
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 5: quote reclamation projects, a bunch and on one in two

845
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 5: year deals. Severino Manaia, now Frankie Montas coming up, and

846
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 5: that's going to cost me half the price of the

847
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 5: Corbin Burns making thirty five year for the next eight

848
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 5: plus years. So I think they've got this little crevice

849
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 5: here in the payroll that is going to put them

850
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 5: in a good position. And I know this is a

851
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 5: yank show, but I just think they've got the highest bid.

852
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: Well. I mean, there's a lot of Yankees fans who

853
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: are going to be devastated to lose Juan Soto, but

854
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna happen. And honestly, I'm not sure

855
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: it's in the Yankees' best interest to hand out a

856
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: fifteen year contract to that guy. I'll give you a

857
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: perfect example of, you know, the allocating resources in a

858
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: way that some of the younger viewers will remember. When

859
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: I was grown up, around Christmas time, we would always

860
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: get a gift card for about fifty dollars to game Stop, right,

861
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: and me and my brother would play Sega Genesis, and

862
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: we had a choice, you know, could we take our

863
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: fifty dollars gift cards and get like the two big

864
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: new games maybe like Madden and Immortal Kombat, or could

865
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: we maybe spread it out and get like six or

866
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: seven of the older games, and like, you know, I

867
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: build up our collection, And that's what we usually did,

868
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: and then we would get like the Madden the next

869
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: year and the you know, Mortal Kombats like a year

870
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: after they came out. They spread their resources. We spent

871
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: our resources to like build, you know, for the betterment

872
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: of our entertainment. Would it be more entertaining and better

873
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: for the team to go get a let's say, a

874
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: Willia Domas, a Max Freed, a Cody Bellinger, and a

875
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 2: Nico Horner rather than spending fifty million dollars on Juan Soda.

876
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 5: It's it's case by case, and with the Yankees, I

877
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 5: probably agree with you. I'll just say I agree with you.

878
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 5: I think there were so many holes in my mind

879
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: for a team that made it to the World Series

880
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 5: that you looked at their potential and said, man, if

881
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 5: they fixed up this spot and this spot and had

882
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 5: a better picture in this spot, they could have taken

883
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 5: down the Dodgers. So yeah, I think I'm with you there.

884
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: I think obviously Adamis looks like a great fit because

885
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 5: the Yankees had a clunky roster last year and it's

886
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: been a problem for a while. Jazz did okay, definitely

887
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 5: exceeded expectations at third base. He's not getting traded. He

888
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 5: should move to second base, so Adamis makes a lot

889
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 5: of sense at third base. Also, energy guy just would

890
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 5: be a good fit in New York. Bellinger, I know

891
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 5: you've been big on this train. I am completely following you.

892
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 5: I've hopped on that train. Would be a huge upgrade

893
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: for them. I don't want the Yankees to go after

894
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 5: Pete a Lonzo or Christian Walker now because they're not

895
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 5: good players. They're older players. The Yankees keep bringing in

896
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 5: these older guys, it's less athletic. You got to wipe

897
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 5: that away or at least counter that. I just didn't

898
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 5: feel like they counted it enough. Also, guys that can

899
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 5: really play baseball. I know Cody Bellinger is kind of

900
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 5: an interesting reputation at times, but he does a lot

901
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 5: of things well. He's fast, he plays great defense, his

902
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 5: back can be inconsistent at times. But that's a good

903
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 5: fit for the Yankees. So here's my point. I'll take

904
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 5: just a slightly different spin from what you're saying, is

905
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 5: if they sign up Jan Soto and he's back on

906
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 5: the team, they still have to do some of these things.

907
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 5: So it's really, are you going to pay top dollar

908
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 5: and then push even more because otherwise, again, you're gonna

909
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 5: have this clunky roster problem. Can you get to the

910
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: World Series again with Sodo and company and a few

911
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 5: twet yes? But I think the plan B for the

912
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 5: Yankees could put them in just as good of a position.

913
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 5: And I think the Yankees are going to be super

914
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 5: aggressive if they don't get him, because they're going to

915
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 5: know how pissed off fans are.

916
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: The other thing about this fifteen year contract to Juan

917
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: Soto that we're you know, getting a lot of comments on,

918
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: is that there has been some issues in Major League

919
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: Baseball with guys that are supposedly twenty six we find

920
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: out later they're twenty eight, twenty nine years old. Alfonso

921
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: Sorriano comes to mind. After the Yankees traded him for

922
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: a Rod, they released this press release, Oops, he was

923
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: actually twenty nine, not twenty five. And then we had

924
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: a string of these guys, you know, Fausto Carmona actually

925
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: had a whole different name, whole different identity. You know,

926
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: everybody thinks Albert Poolhos is sixty three years old. So

927
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean, should Yankees fans or whoever signs Juan Soto

928
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: be losing sleep over this? I don't think so. I mean,

929
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: he's always he looked a bit young to me, but

930
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: you know, there is that possibility that you know, in

931
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: a couple of years it's revealed, you know that he's

932
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: a couple years older than we thought.

933
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 5: So I don't think that's ever going to happen. And

934
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 5: I think with the even past players, you're not going

935
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 5: to get it. Like if they got through this long,

936
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 5: you're probably not going to get exposed. At this point,

937
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 5: I think they're doing a little bit of a better

938
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 5: job at cracking down right now. But now we're talking

939
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 5: about players that have been in the league for a minute. Obviously,

940
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 5: Albert's been in league for a while. So it's a

941
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 5: tough subject because you're looking around and you're like, Okay,

942
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 5: this guy at what nineteen looks like a twenty five

943
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 5: year old in his prime, but he could just be

944
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 5: a unicorn. So I just don't think you're ever going

945
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 5: to get an answer on that. And so the bigger

946
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 5: question is how do we think his current body is

947
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 5: going to age? That's it. Is he going to be

948
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 5: like Miguel Cabrera when he signed that last extension. I

949
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 5: was debating that on foul Territory the other day. They

950
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 5: were like he had good years after I was like

951
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: hit a year and a half after that on like

952
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 5: an eight year extension. But for me, do I think

953
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 5: Sodo is still going to be a good player for

954
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 5: a good chunk of time? Yes, And I can't emphasize

955
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 5: this enough, Derek. When I say sixteen year contract, do

956
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 5: I expect one Soto to be good at forty one

957
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: forty two years old? I don't even think he's going

958
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 5: to be in the league at that point. The amount

959
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 5: of players in the league at that stage.

960
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 6: No.

961
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 5: I think there's a chance in six years he could

962
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 5: be a full time DH. But if he's big poppy

963
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: for a while, that's okay. These deals are done over

964
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 5: this length for one reason, and one reason only average

965
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 5: annual value. Keep the salary cap, ak the luxury tax down.

966
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 5: That's it. That's why, because otherwise, right now, if you

967
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 5: put like the amount of wins that he's worth, and

968
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 5: how the front officers do this right times the years.

969
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 5: I don't know what the current rate is, but let's

970
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 5: say it's ten million per win and he's an eight

971
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: win player, so in their mind he's worth eighty million dollars.

972
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 5: But nobody goes for that on the market. So they're like, well,

973
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 5: he's worth sixty five right now, but no one's going there.

974
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 5: It's going to be forty five a year. Let's take

975
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 5: that number and extract it as much as we can

976
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 5: so we don't have as much of a cap hit.

977
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 5: And it's not just on how much money you have

978
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 5: to give to owners like Bob Nutting of the Pirates.

979
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 5: It's draft pick compensation, penalties, international signing money. This affects

980
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 5: the product on the field, so I wouldn't go too

981
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 5: crazy over that. I can't believe anyone's getting sixteen years.

982
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 5: Don't think of it that way. Think of it as

983
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 5: take the ten years, right, So let's say it's seven hundred.

984
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 5: He's getting seventy mil for ten years. Call that crazy,

985
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 5: but do the math on his wins above replacement times

986
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 5: the going rate, and it's probably pretty much in line.

987
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: That's an awesome way to look at it. Final question,

988
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: I know you got to go. I asked this question

989
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: to Robert Murray he was on earlier in the show,

990
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: and he didn't have an answer for it. He was stumped.

991
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: I stumped Robert Murray. I'm gonna see if I can

992
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: stump Scott Braun who says no to this deal Marcus

993
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: Stroman for Jordan Montgomery.

994
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 5: Wow, So just can you fill me on Stroman's situation?

995
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 5: Left struck because I gotta play the money game.

996
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: Stroman's got one year at I believe eighteen million dollars

997
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: and Jordan Montgomery's got one year at a little over

998
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: twenty two. There might be some to make, you know,

999
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: maneuvers some dollars there. We know that Jordan Montgomery has

1000
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: pitched well in New York before, you're asking him to

1001
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: come in and be the number five starter and maybe,

1002
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: you know, pick up some big innings. And Marcus Stroman

1003
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: is a guy who kind of faded down the stretch

1004
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: a little bit. But he, you know, the the Diamondbacks

1005
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: owner doesn't hate him, so you know, that's kind of

1006
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: that's kind of where we're at. He wants to unload

1007
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: that contract. He would be willing to move some cash

1008
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: reportedly to do it. I think that's a perfect opportunity

1009
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 2: to get somebody who can pitch a whole season without

1010
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: wearing out, who's probably gonna have a bounce back year.

1011
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, Scott Bors ruined his year last year.

1012
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a bounce back year. Wouldn't surprise me.

1013
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 2: He wins fifteen games with a three to seven.

1014
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 5: Okay, So the Diamondbacks definitely say yes to that deal

1015
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 5: because they're saving a little bit of money they could

1016
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 5: use the innings. They still have guys that are pretty unreliable.

1017
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 5: I've always kind of been off the EDWARDO. Rodriguez train.

1018
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 5: I was against that signing last year just he often

1019
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 5: is not putting together full seasons. I don't know. There's

1020
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 5: a lot of checkered history with how he thinks about

1021
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 5: getting on the field. So it's a whole other conversation.

1022
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: He's in Carl Pavano in them, Yes, exactly, exactly.

1023
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 5: That's that's the perfect comp So for Yankee fans, do

1024
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 5: you want Monty over Marcus Stroman? Yeah, there's probably a

1025
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 5: little bit more upside there. The money's close enough, so

1026
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 5: I'll give you that deal. I'll say yes on that deal.

1027
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 5: The one thing I'll go against you with though, is

1028
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 5: I after doing a lot of homework on this, and

1029
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 5: it's not just the Boris camp, it's others. I don't

1030
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 5: think Boris ruined the situation. He had a one hundred

1031
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 5: million dollar offer. That's been reported on the table that

1032
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 5: was much earlier in the off season. You can look

1033
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 5: it up. I believe it was four years one hundred

1034
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 5: from the Red Sox. He said no, had four years

1035
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 5: one hundred. Now we thought he was going to get

1036
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 5: more of the mid one hundreds. It was a crappy

1037
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 5: market last year. But if you wanted that nice, chunky

1038
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 5: deal more in the middle of the off season, he

1039
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 5: could have gotten four one hundred. Look it up. So

1040
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 5: in my mind, I think that he ultimately decided I

1041
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 5: want to play the waiting game. Someone else is going

1042
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 5: to give me this number, And many of the other

1043
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 5: Boris clients did do that, took the one year opt

1044
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 5: out and we're okay. I don't know if there was

1045
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 5: knopped out in that four year, but Joran Montgomery had

1046
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 5: a pretty nice offer on the table and he didn't

1047
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 5: want to go to Boston. Whether it was because of

1048
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 5: the money or potentially also because of it being Boston,

1049
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 5: I don't know. Because a lot of people thought, oh,

1050
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 5: what is it his wife was studying up there whatever,

1051
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: but going to school there or something. There's a story

1052
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 5: to all of that. So that's that's all I'll say.

1053
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 5: That's the background that I got that. He had a

1054
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 5: nice offer on the table that anyone else would have

1055
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 5: taken and he turned it down.

1056
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: Well that's very interesting. I did not know that. So

1057
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: we got to pay the light bill, we got to

1058
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: pay Scott Braun's gym membership. So we're going to go

1059
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: to a story Worth ad. I tell you what, my

1060
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 2: wife just started doing that with her mom and it's

1061
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: really cool. We're supporting foul Territory. You guys should support

1062
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,000
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1063
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,600
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1064
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,680
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1065
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,840
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Speaker 2: All right, we are back and we're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: your voicemails. I hope you enjoyed that talk with Scott

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Speaker 2: Braun and special thanks to Robert Murray and Clint Pisias

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Speaker 2: for the conversations. Let's get to what's on your mind.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Derek Austen, I just wanted to say something about

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Speaker 6: this Golden at bad Business. I was listening to the

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Speaker 6: Michael Kay Show. I heard Jack Curry's take on it.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like it, buster.

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Speaker 6: Oney, I heard him, he doesn't love it either. I

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Speaker 6: also agree. I don't love it. I think it changes

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Speaker 6: the essence of the game too much. I get wanting

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Speaker 6: to add excitement and do some things, but you know,

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Speaker 6: to make everything, you know, more exciting and you know,

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Speaker 6: get younger fans and stuff like that. But I will

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Speaker 6: say that if if it did happen, like, if it

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Speaker 6: did happen, I guess one of Jack Curry's like main

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Speaker 6: concern is that, oh, you've got you know, a skewed

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Speaker 6: you know stats and stats are sacred, and you know

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Speaker 6: what does that mean for you know, records and everything

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Speaker 6: like that. I think you could solve that by just

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Speaker 6: separating the stats for the Golden at that like just

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Speaker 6: make a separate category or or just separate them from

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Speaker 6: your standard stats and just you know, take that out

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Speaker 6: of your overall like regular season stats.

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Speaker 2: Like if you get a golden I hear you, and

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Speaker 2: he goes on to talk a little bit about his

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Speaker 2: formula there, which I'm not gonna play, but it just

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Speaker 2: makes it too complicated. Look, the stats are the stats.

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Speaker 2: The numbers of the numbers. You should be able to

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Speaker 2: calculate them on the back of a napkin. None have

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Speaker 2: to you know, no algebra. I was not good at algebra. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I would not do well with baseball stats if I

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Speaker 2: had to bring in the algebra like I can. I

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Speaker 2: can figure him out in my head. When a guy

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Speaker 2: goes two for ten, that's two hundred. But look, I

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Speaker 2: I just think that the goldenknit bat is a stud.

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Speaker 2: But idea I've ever heard. What if you haven't used

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Speaker 2: your gold in the bat yet, right, and Aaron Judge

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Speaker 2: hits a double to lead off the ninth inning or

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Speaker 2: a single to lead off the ninth inning. Per double,

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Speaker 2: they'd probably walk them if you went up. But let's

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Speaker 2: say you HiT's a single and then you want to

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Speaker 2: send him up to hit again as the next batter,

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Speaker 2: but he's on base, So do you put in a

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Speaker 2: pinch runner? Is it a ghost runner? And I just

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Speaker 2: there's so many problems with this. You give him one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty more at bats per year. You tell

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Speaker 2: me he's not gonna hit ten or twelve more home runs.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna break the home run record, but then you

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Speaker 2: gotta put an asterisk next to it. It's just stupid.

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Speaker 2: The whole idea is stupid. It's not as dumb as

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Speaker 2: getting your head stuck in a porta potty or you know,

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Speaker 2: giving up your life to go live with bears and

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Speaker 2: then getting eaten by one so that they have to

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Speaker 2: identify you buy your wristwatch. But it's pretty dumb.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Derek, this is a Joe from Connecticut. Was just

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Speaker 1: looking at some numbers and it says the Yankees projected

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Speaker 1: allocation for payroll and that's what Like, all the arbitrations

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Speaker 1: are completed at two and twenty nine, you find Soto

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Speaker 1: state it's between forty five and fifty, and then everybody's

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Speaker 1: saying Bellinger, which is twenty seven to five. You're pretty

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Speaker 1: much maxed out for what you could do for the

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Speaker 1: entire offseason. Now, do you think that's the best move to.

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Speaker 2: Go for Bellinger?

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Speaker 1: Is that extra piece or is there a way we

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Speaker 1: could get another piece with Bellinger two? Maybe getting rid

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Speaker 1: of Stroman Nesker. I don't know what other contract you

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Speaker 1: could be able to get. Just want your opinion on

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Speaker 1: this and if there was any other way we could

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Speaker 1: get more guys because we kind of need more guys. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly why I won't be heartbroken when I

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Speaker 2: deliver my Juan Soto has signed with the New York

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Speaker 2: Mets podcast, which is probably gonna happen Sunday or Monday.

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Speaker 2: I think that you need more than one or two pieces.

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Speaker 2: I think the Yankees legitimately need two infielders, a first

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Speaker 2: basement and either a second basement or a third baseman.

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Speaker 2: They need an outfielder. They could use more pitching. They

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Speaker 2: got to refill the bullpen. And if you're given fifty

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Speaker 2: million dollars to one guy or more, you just can't

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Speaker 2: do it. You want to win the World Series, you

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Speaker 2: got to build a team. It's not about one guy.

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Speaker 2: It's not about two guys. It's about the team. Remember that, kids,

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Speaker 2: no one is above the team. Ladies and gentlemen, will

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Speaker 2: be reconvening as soon as there is news Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: regardless of whether or not there's news, We're gonna do

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Speaker 2: a hot stove kickoff party with Terrence, my my co

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Speaker 2: host from another coast. He's out west and he'll be

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Speaker 2: joining us to you know, kick off the winter meetings.

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Speaker 2: But hopefully we'll have some news before then. Again, like

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Speaker 2: subscribe all that good stuff. Let me know what you

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Speaker 2: thought about any of the comments, any of the any

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Speaker 2: of the topics in this podcast, and I'll see you

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Speaker 2: next time on Pinsright Territory. If you enjoyed this video,

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Speaker 2: please drop a like and give us a subscribe. It

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