WEBVTT - IAAI Town Meeting: Obsessed with Jess (Season 2, E5 “Nick & Nora/Sid & Nancy”) 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:04.120 I Am all in again. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:10.559 Oh that's you. 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.800 I Am All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.160 Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.680 another episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:28.840 Tara and Suzanne. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:29.640 Hello. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:35.040 Hello, Today we are talking about season two, episode five, 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.319 Nick and Nora, Sid and Nancy, which aired October thirtieth. Oh, 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.000 Halloween episode two thousand and one. Kind of Halloween episode. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:44.120 Not really could have been. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.240 It could have been, but it is the episode. Actually 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.920 there was a lot of fall leaves, so it gave 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:50.479 the Halloween. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.440 Yeah, and we saw a guy like decorating. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:53.320 Yeah. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:58.240 Yeah, but it is the first episode that we see Jess. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.520 I love this episode. This is one of my favorite 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:02.840 episodes in the entire series. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:04.560 It's a It's a really good one. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:06.800 And uh, in a little bit, we're going to bring 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.520 on our producer Jackie, who uh this was her first 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:13.200 time watching this, so I want her input. But to start, 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.880 I just want to say, like this was five episodes in. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.679 I felt like this felt like more than five episodes in. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.560 Like I feel like we were deep into this season 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.520 right now. Yeah, there was a lot of unpack right, Yeah, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:29.000 like the. 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.720 Whole Max engagement seems like a million episodes ago. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:35.880 I guess, I guess, let's just start there. Even though 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:40.319 we're jumping around, I feel like he was kind of 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.240 childish in the way where he's like, oh, rory, as 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.319 if like she doesn't go to the school, like like 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:47.760 as if he wasn't. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:48.320 Going to run into her. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.920 Yeah, But then I also felt really bad at the 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.400 end when she said I really wanted you to be 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:55.080 my stepdad. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.720 Yeah, it was a it was a cute, poignant moment. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.480 I thought it was interesting that they wrote, like we 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.680 got basically Max's entire backstory in that episode, and I 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.840 thought it was interesting that they didn't give that to 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.360 us until after the engagement was called off. You know, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.600 like we learned more about Max as he's on his 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.320 way out, which, yeah, interesting. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:25.120 Did he have like a conflict like scheduling conflict, like. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:26.000 Did he have another show? 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:26.320 Oh? 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:26.840 I don't know. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.000 Because this made me realize that Chad Michael Murray's officially gone. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:35.679 Right, No, he's not gone yet. No, No, no, we there, 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.959 we still have all the confrontation with Dean and Tristan. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.640 Oh my god, you're right there. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.200 We still got a long way to go there. 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.799 I think I think I was just like, oh, new 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:49.239 school year, Tristan's out. Yeah, which, by the way, kind 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.120 of threw me off, because I would have liked, as 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.400 it was my decision. I would have liked if like 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.880 this was like episode one of the season. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.600 Yeah, it did get a little confusing, and a couple 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.760 episodes ago there was a kitchen scene where they talked 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.320 about it about school starting, and I thought that was 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.480 the first day of school, and then I realized when 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.919 I watched this episode, I'm like, wait, no, they were 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.200 just yeah, it must have been talking about it. This 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.040 was the actual first day of school. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.440 Like I kind of wouldn't mind if the season one 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.960 finale was touring Harvard, do you know what I'm saying, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.160 Like it would have been like twenty six episodes, twenty 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.840 five episodes for that season, right it was. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:35.720 But yeah, yeah, it kind of throws us off because 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.640 we started the season it was still summer, and so 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.800 for the people like when it aired, it was the fall, 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.120 but the story was taking place in the summer, and 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.640 so then when it actually gets to the fall and 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.040 school starting, yeah, we're already like part way through the season. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.360 So yeah, but anyway, we can't really change with what 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:56.760 happens twenty five years ago. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.280 So there's that. No, I didn't see a clown pillow, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:01.600 did you? 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.160 I did not. I did not see a clown. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.400 There was a lot of there was a lot of 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.960 moving in the house, like camera angles, and I was 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.760 really looking deep. But the one thing I noticed, it's 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:17.720 the scene where Luke comes after pushing just into the 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.520 into the lake and they're talking in the kitchen. They 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.240 have a lot of yarn just sitting in the kitchen, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:26.719 Like there's a lot of yarn. You would think that 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.040 they were sewing like twenty five scarves. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.000 Oh, that's funny. I didn't even see that. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.520 There's like a shelf with a basket of yarn, and 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.640 then there's another row of yarn because. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.960 We know we know Lorelei sews close or. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.479 She knits well because we had the knit of thon. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.279 Well, there's also a sewing machine on display in the 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:47.080 same scene. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.560 But I was like, why so much yarn? 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.120 Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't I didn't pick up. But 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.000 now that I think about it, you're right, the. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.240 Two of them usually have some like random hobbies. I 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:09.600 feel like they weren't you know, yeah, have all right, 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.080 Well Jackie our producer. I guess I'll bring Jackie in now. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:18.040 Hi guys, Hi, Okay, we're changing it up this town 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.240 meeting because I feel like it's a very important episode. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:21.919 Yes, Jackie. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.520 As a first time viewer, what are your first thoughts 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:26.240 of Jess. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.080 Since you guys told me, I knew it was coming 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.960 and the bus was coming, and it was like the anticipation. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.599 Well, he was also in the opening credits. Did you know, 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.440 like I skip the credits. Oh no, if you watched, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:37.760 he was. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.600 Actually they said Mile events Milia in the opening credits, 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.559 which is a big deal because for a character's first 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.120 appearance to just be put into the show open is 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:47.680 it's pretty big. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:51.920 Yeah. My first thought he walked off the bus and 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:58.560 I said hello handsome. Oh yeah, I literally wrote hello handsome. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.960 And then I noticed that they just stood there like 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.159 staring at each other, and they're the same person, like 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:07.800 they had the same mannerisms. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:09.080 They didn't talk much. 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.600 It's like, okay, they pretty much established this is like 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.760 a no, no great communicator talking kind of guy like 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.480 Luke is, but he's obviously way more angry. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.200 But he is so cute and like I first watched. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.040 Him, and this is us. I knew about Hero and 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:29.520 that he dated Hayden Panetier or whatever. Yeah, but I'm like, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.479 oh my gosh, she's so cute. And then jumping ahead, 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.440 I didn't know this was the toss in the Lake 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:36.359 episode either. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.200 Yeah, that's pretty iconic. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:39.520 Yeah, you know. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.640 The one thing about that, Sorry to just jump ahead, 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.440 I didn't realize right by the high school goes straight 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.640 to that like dirt road. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.120 It doesn't. That was it. I was going to bring 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.400 that up. So that was an editing trick. And if 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.520 you watch closely, there's a van that passes in front 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.480 of the camera and that's when the scene changes. So 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:04.560 if you. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.320 Watch, so it's supposed to be two scenes. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.680 No, it's supposed to be one scene. But they're two 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:10.920 different locations on the lot. 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.280 No. I know. I know it's two different locations because 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.840 I've seen them both. But I'm saying, like they made 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.960 it seem like this lake was behind the high school. 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:20.440 I see what you're saying. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.040 Yeah, yeah, Like in my head, I was like, we've 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.560 never seen this pathway leaving Stars Hollow High School. 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.840 Yeah, they had to get to the water quickly. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.560 I think They're like, we're gonna throw a truck in there. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.320 And when they were doing that little pathway, I was like, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.560 where's this going, where's this going? 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.080 Why? Why they in the woods? 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:37.400 Why? 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.840 Then oh, oh see the lake is it? 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.240 And then you see their little like bridge and I'm like, 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.120 this is it? And then he does it and I 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:45.440 was like, oh my god. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.640 I like how there was no music, you know, like 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.160 sometimes Golmer girls throws like music in. I like how 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.480 it was just silence and then shove. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.440 Yeah, I've seen that scene before, just like on Instagram 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.160 and just like iconic moments. It's working on this pod. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.960 You you see, I just didn't know where it was. Yeah, 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.440 it's happily surprised it was in this episode because I'm like, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.720 these are iconic Susane. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.200 I don't remember because I wasn't on the podcast when 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.000 when Scott talks about this, was it one take? 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:15.000 I believe it was. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:15.720 Yeah. 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.280 Yeah, I mean I'm sure like they could have done 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.360 it's another take, but you just have to like get 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:21.480 him out and try him. 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.600 And yeah, it was taken a while. But I think 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.240 what I recall him saying in the past is that 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.000 the walk and talk leading up to it. They did 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.360 like a gazillion takes of that, but the actual part 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.679 on the bridge with the push, that was just one. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:35.040 Yeah. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.840 Yeah, it wouldn't be like it wouldn't be consecutive like 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:43.320 they would need you. Wow. Yeah, I what a great 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.439 way to like launch into Yeah. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.680 And I will say so I watched this episode twice, 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:51.640 and the first time I watched it, I just was 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.440 trying to refresh my mind on the story. So I 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.679 watched it at one and a half speed so it 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.840 was faster and that push scene is hilarious. 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:03.800 Oh okay, So I had to finish this episode this morning. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.400 I had like a meeting that got canceled, so I 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.480 was like, oh great, I have like extra time. But 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.040 then I was like, it's taking all at long, So 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.600 I want to watch it watching them walk in one 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.240 point five speed on Netflix and then the shove it 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.959 is the funniest thing. I watched it in that speed too. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.920 It's so funny. And then I went back and watched 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:21.680 it a normal speed. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.400 Yeah. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.520 And then when he meets Rory, I mean, like I 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.720 just I just like was the stereo at that too? 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.080 I didn't know, do you think they just met on 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.160 the show? They weren't dating by then, right. 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.000 Yeah, I don't think so, you know, they weren't dating 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.480 it because. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.240 When the way he looks at her when she says 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.000 don't I look trustworthy? I was like, and the way 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.600 he the look he gives her, I'm just like, Oh, 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:45.959 he loves Alexus Wladel. 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:48.480 He's a great actor. 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.560 I know, but exactly so I liked that too. And 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.600 she's just so casual whatever. It's like, oh yeah, my book. 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.480 So I was waiting for that because I we see Jess, 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.080 we get he it's all grumpy and then he's then 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.280 I was waiting for the Rory meet up at the 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:06.960 dinner and I was like, oh okay, because I didn't 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:08.920 know how them too met. And I just loved the 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.320 way he looked at her and it's like, don't I 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:12.040 look trustworthy? 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.760 And he just except when he walked into the house, 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.840 he just like walked in and started like going through 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:17.839 the house and like grabbing the photos and I was. 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.320 Like, yeah, hold up, he's such a grump. Yeah yeah. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:22.640 They went and got a beer and. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.640 Then he's like ready to just jump out the window 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:25.120 and bail. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.640 I would I would be lore like to and being like, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.280 you don't talk to me in that way in my house. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.040 I was like, yes, girl, yes. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:35.000 Yeah, yeah, seventeen year old taking beer out of my fridge. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.520 No, that's not way, by the way, after being there 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:43.239 for like thirty five seconds, I know, like take a little. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.679 But it paints a picture, right, Like we see that 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.320 he's a troublemaker. We've already we get a call from 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.360 Taylor Docy already in this episode that you know he's 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.880 taking money out of the donation cam. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:55.400 Well that was after the dinner. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.760 Oh oh yeah yeah yeah, I'm just saying, like the 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.600 whole like his whole baby is painting the picture. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.080 The gnome thing, too, is another iconic thing. I didn't 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.840 know it was in this episode Ei there. I was 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.920 like when they talk about gnomes before and I was like, 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.160 what is this gnome talk? 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:10.560 Wait? 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:11.640 Is it? Is it a nome? 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.560 I didn't know that. That's like an actual, like big 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.959 moment the time. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.040 Yeah, I've heard it before, like or I like with 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:19.960 the gnomes, and I was like, what is that? 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.120 And then it's in this episode. Oh, it's like literally 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:23.600 a gnome bad bad, Yeah. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.880 Literally you can hear them talking to you at night. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:31.839 She was great just to just to take it back before. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.400 Before Jess got there, and he's like, he bought a 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.960 bunch of stuff for his apartment, like food and stuff. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.360 I really want to know. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:45.439 Why there were like six boxes of rice crispy trees. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:48.520 And they were all open too. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.600 Did you notice they were all they were all open? 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.120 And I was like, who is eating this much? 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.000 I mean, I love rice krispy trees, don't get me wrong, 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:58.200 but I'm like, what he could have gotten, like I 0:11:58.200 --> 0:11:59.240 don't know anything else? 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.160 Well, and the fact that he called out to just 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.559 like I got what did you say, oh, frosted flakes? 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.960 I got frosted flakes. Like it's clear he has no 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.199 idea what a seventeen year old wants. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.360 No, But I mean, you gotta give it to Luke. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:14.000 He was trying. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.040 I mean, yeah, oh dub. I mean I liked. One 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:18.960 of the things I like so much about this episode 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.199 is that we got a lot of Luke's backstory and 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.800 really see like how loyal or how important family loyalty 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.040 is to him. Like he's he probably wouldn't have like 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.960 voluntarily gone out and adopted a seventeen year old, but 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.400 it's his family, and so he feels a responsibility towards 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:37.560 his family to do what's right. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.920 So Elsa just shows you that, like especially at the 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.200 end when he comes to find the gnome and he's like, 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.360 you know, you're gonna get off, you're gonna put the 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.640 patch on, you're gonna stop smoking, you're gonna work, You're 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.720 gonna do this. You can tell that Liz has never 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.559 done that to Jess. Yes, yeah, you can tell that. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.960 Like this kid is seventeen years old and he, for 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.560 his seventeen years on this earth has done whatever he wants. 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.079 And I know that it was a little bit of 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.040 Lorelized influence to Luke, But I do like that Luke 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.679 didn't wait to like put his foot down, like this 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.560 is probably what like his second night there at this point, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.000 Like he put his foot down on day two and 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.600 was like, you're gonna live under this roof. You're gonna 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.920 do now, mind you. He then left the apartment and 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.040 said I'm leaving an not come back. But you know 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.800 he at least said it, yeah, yeah, put his foot down. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.840 He's trying to do well. But also stars Hollow is 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:40.320 it's never been like disruptive, like like disrupted by anything 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.200 like this before. And that one scene when he walks 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.360 out of the diner. What was the song that was playing? 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.160 It was like this is l or something. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:53.160 So yeah, I was like, wow, what a great use 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:57.480 of music because you're using his point of view, not 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.360 like the la la lahs that we usually. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.600 Yeah, that was the perfect song selection there. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:04.360 Yeah. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:08.120 Did you guys notice that when Jess was sitting there 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.800 and he had his little like plate of cigarettes next 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.600 to him, and then there was something else And I 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.320 was like what is that? It was like mush or 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:18.679 I don't know what what on a yellow plate. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.920 Yeah, there was something on his left side. I couldn't 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.320 tell what that was. Either it was a plate of something, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.800 but it was I don't know. I couldn't figure out 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.680 what it was either, like was it food? I don't know. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.240 Yeah, I didn't see that. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.760 But the one thing that I paid attention to is 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.720 when it's the first time where he's sitting on like 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:41.120 his little cot whatever it is, right and he has 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.280 a stack of cards. He's not shuff This has pissed 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.440 me off so much. He's not shuffling the cards, but 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:48.560 take the cards. 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:49.120 Did you see this? 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:49.600 Yeah? 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:51.360 He would take the cards and he. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:55.040 Would like like pan them open. Yeah, and then just 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.800 close it and then like pan them open and close it. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.280 And it was driving me and said, I'm like, oh, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.160 least sit and shuff full of cards, like put some. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:03.600 Use into like this energy. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.000 And then he did that little magic trick with Rory 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.440 and I'm like, are you a magician? 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.680 But it was the same This is so specific. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.880 It was the same hand motion, so I wonder if 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.440 he was just like working on his magic. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.240 Yeah, it was very odd. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.680 I just I was so distracted by like the cards 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.800 that scene that I had to rewatch the scene because 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:35.160 I was like, what did Luke say? I guess let's 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.800 jump to Paris real quick. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:39.120 Yeah. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:45.120 When Rory wrote that stellar article about the what was 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:49.040 it the paper, I was like, you know what, that's 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:49.800 the way to do it. 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:50.600 You just put your. 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.400 Head down and you do the job, and you do 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:54.800 it well and pissed off Paris. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:55.960 Mind you, Paris had this. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.640 Maxim Medina thing in her back pocket, unfortunately, But I 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.440 liked this bancer and it's like the banster that's going 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.480 to continue for like the rest of the show. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.960 Yeah, it was nice to see the good guy when 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.320 after Paris kind of screwed her by telling her the 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.440 wrong time to show up, and so she made a 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.400 total fool of herself because she came in forty five 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.640 minutes late. And so I loved that the teacher was like, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.000 you know, she wrote a really good article, Give her 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.480 something better next time. I love that vindication. 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:33.120 Yeah, yeah, I didn't, But I will say I didn't 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.720 see anything else in this episode of like things I 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.080 wanted to point out or was there anything you had? 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.040 The only thing that I was going to call out 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.360 because I know that somebody will mention it in the 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:48.680 comments if we don't, okay, is the comment when Laurel 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:54.960 I asks Luke what happened to Jess's dad, and Luke says, 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.320 the hot like the hot Dog King took off two 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:05.240 years ago. Because later on when we meet Liz, so 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.520 he says in this episode, later on, when he's blowing 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:13.120 up the raft slash bed, he says that right after 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.520 high school, Liz married the hot Dog King, So if 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:22.400 Jess is seventeen, that means Liz was married for fifteen years. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.080 And then but then when we actually do meet Liz, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.400 they make it sound like she's just had this endless 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.280 string of boyfriends, and Jess is talking about how he 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:34.600 doesn't like any of the guys. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.239 That she goes out, and then we go see the 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.400 dad in California. 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.639 Right, and then well, Jimmy the dad comes to Stars 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.760 Hollow and Luke confronts him in the hotel room and 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:49.920 he says in that episode that Jimmy left to go 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:54.359 get diapers and never came back. So once Liz is 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.399 in the picture, then they make it sound like Jimmy 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:57.720 left when Jess was just. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.119 A bunch of inconsistency with the dad. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.399 Right, because in this episode they were married for a 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.280 long time, but then in later episodes they she was 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.080 dating all these random randos and. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.240 It went right over my head to be I like 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.639 heard it, but like I didn't pay attention, Like I 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.520 was like, uh whatever, Yeah. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.600 I just see it come up a lot. And so 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.359 there's always like a debate about I mean it's not 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.560 really a debate because it's just an inconsistency, but about 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.359 you know, Jess's dad, and so yeah, just one of 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:30.439 those things that comes up. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.280 But really this episode had like nothing else that was 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.320 like I have to it was like a perfect episode. 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.600 It was really good. Yeah, and that editing trick with 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.600 the van like that was so cool because if like 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.639 if you if you don't know the physical layout, you 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.800 don't realize that those two things aren't right next to 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:50.160 each other. 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.640