1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I Am all in again. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Oh that's you. 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: I Am All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: another episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Tara and Suzanne. 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: Hello. 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: Hello, Today we are talking about season two, episode five, 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 3: Nick and Nora, Sid and Nancy, which aired October thirtieth. Oh, 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: Halloween episode two thousand and one. Kind of Halloween episode. 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Not really could have been. 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: It could have been, but it is the episode. Actually 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: there was a lot of fall leaves, so it gave 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: the Halloween. 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw a guy like decorating. 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is the first episode that we see Jess. 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: I love this episode. This is one of my favorite 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: episodes in the entire series. 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: It's a It's a really good one. 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: And uh, in a little bit, we're going to bring 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: on our producer Jackie, who uh this was her first 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: time watching this, so I want her input. But to start, 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: I just want to say, like this was five episodes in. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: I felt like this felt like more than five episodes in. 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: Like I feel like we were deep into this season 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, there was a lot of unpack right, Yeah, 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: like the. 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: Whole Max engagement seems like a million episodes ago. 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: I guess, I guess, let's just start there. Even though 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: we're jumping around, I feel like he was kind of 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: childish in the way where he's like, oh, rory, as 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: if like she doesn't go to the school, like like 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: as if he wasn't. 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: Going to run into her. 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, But then I also felt really bad at the 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: end when she said I really wanted you to be 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: my stepdad. 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a it was a cute, poignant moment. 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting that they wrote, like we 41 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: got basically Max's entire backstory in that episode, and I 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: thought it was interesting that they didn't give that to 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: us until after the engagement was called off. You know, 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: like we learned more about Max as he's on his 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: way out, which, yeah, interesting. 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: Did he have like a conflict like scheduling conflict, like. 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Did he have another show? 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: Oh? 49 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: Because this made me realize that Chad Michael Murray's officially gone. 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 2: Right, No, he's not gone yet. No, No, no, we there, 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 2: we still have all the confrontation with Dean and Tristan. 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're right there. 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: We still got a long way to go there. 55 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 3: I think I think I was just like, oh, new 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 3: school year, Tristan's out. Yeah, which, by the way, kind 57 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: of threw me off, because I would have liked, as 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: it was my decision. I would have liked if like 59 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: this was like episode one of the season. 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it did get a little confusing, and a couple 61 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: episodes ago there was a kitchen scene where they talked 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: about it about school starting, and I thought that was 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: the first day of school, and then I realized when 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: I watched this episode, I'm like, wait, no, they were 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: just yeah, it must have been talking about it. This 66 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: was the actual first day of school. 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: Like I kind of wouldn't mind if the season one 68 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: finale was touring Harvard, do you know what I'm saying, 69 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: Like it would have been like twenty six episodes, twenty 70 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: five episodes for that season, right it was. 71 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, it kind of throws us off because 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: we started the season it was still summer, and so 73 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: for the people like when it aired, it was the fall, 74 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: but the story was taking place in the summer, and 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: so then when it actually gets to the fall and 76 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: school starting, yeah, we're already like part way through the season. 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, but anyway, we can't really change with what 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: happens twenty five years ago. 79 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: So there's that. No, I didn't see a clown pillow, 80 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: did you? 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: I did not. I did not see a clown. 82 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: There was a lot of there was a lot of 83 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: moving in the house, like camera angles, and I was 84 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: really looking deep. But the one thing I noticed, it's 85 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: the scene where Luke comes after pushing just into the 86 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: into the lake and they're talking in the kitchen. They 87 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: have a lot of yarn just sitting in the kitchen, 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of yarn. You would think that 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: they were sewing like twenty five scarves. 90 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: Oh, that's funny. I didn't even see that. 91 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: There's like a shelf with a basket of yarn, and 92 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: then there's another row of yarn because. 93 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: We know we know Lorelei sews close or. 94 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: She knits well because we had the knit of thon. 95 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: Well, there's also a sewing machine on display in the 96 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: same scene. 97 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: But I was like, why so much yarn? 98 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't I didn't pick up. But 99 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: now that I think about it, you're right, the. 100 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: Two of them usually have some like random hobbies. I 101 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: feel like they weren't you know, yeah, have all right, 102 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: Well Jackie our producer. I guess I'll bring Jackie in now. 103 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: Hi guys, Hi, Okay, we're changing it up this town 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: meeting because I feel like it's a very important episode. 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: Yes, Jackie. 106 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: As a first time viewer, what are your first thoughts 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: of Jess. 108 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: Since you guys told me, I knew it was coming 109 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: and the bus was coming, and it was like the anticipation. 110 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: Well, he was also in the opening credits. Did you know, 111 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: like I skip the credits. Oh no, if you watched, 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: he was. 113 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: Actually they said Mile events Milia in the opening credits, 114 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 3: which is a big deal because for a character's first 115 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: appearance to just be put into the show open is 116 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: it's pretty big. 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. My first thought he walked off the bus and 118 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: I said hello handsome. Oh yeah, I literally wrote hello handsome. 119 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: And then I noticed that they just stood there like 120 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: staring at each other, and they're the same person, like 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: they had the same mannerisms. 122 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: They didn't talk much. 123 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: It's like, okay, they pretty much established this is like 124 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: a no, no great communicator talking kind of guy like 125 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: Luke is, but he's obviously way more angry. 126 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: But he is so cute and like I first watched. 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 4: Him, and this is us. I knew about Hero and 128 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: that he dated Hayden Panetier or whatever. Yeah, but I'm like, 129 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, she's so cute. And then jumping ahead, 130 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: I didn't know this was the toss in the Lake 131 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 4: episode either. 132 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty iconic. 133 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 134 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: The one thing about that, Sorry to just jump ahead, 135 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: I didn't realize right by the high school goes straight 136 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: to that like dirt road. 137 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't. That was it. I was going to bring 138 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: that up. So that was an editing trick. And if 139 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: you watch closely, there's a van that passes in front 140 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: of the camera and that's when the scene changes. So 141 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: if you. 142 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: Watch, so it's supposed to be two scenes. 143 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: No, it's supposed to be one scene. But they're two 144 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: different locations on the lot. 145 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: No. I know. I know it's two different locations because 146 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: I've seen them both. But I'm saying, like they made 147 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: it seem like this lake was behind the high school. 148 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like in my head, I was like, we've 150 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: never seen this pathway leaving Stars Hollow High School. 151 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to get to the water quickly. 152 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: I think They're like, we're gonna throw a truck in there. 153 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: And when they were doing that little pathway, I was like, 154 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: where's this going, where's this going? 155 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: Why? Why they in the woods? 156 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: Why? 157 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Then oh, oh see the lake is it? 158 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: And then you see their little like bridge and I'm like, 159 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: this is it? And then he does it and I 160 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: was like, oh my god. 161 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: I like how there was no music, you know, like 162 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: sometimes Golmer girls throws like music in. I like how 163 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: it was just silence and then shove. 164 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen that scene before, just like on Instagram 165 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: and just like iconic moments. It's working on this pod. 166 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: You you see, I just didn't know where it was. Yeah, 167 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: it's happily surprised it was in this episode because I'm like, 168 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: these are iconic Susane. 169 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: I don't remember because I wasn't on the podcast when 170 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: when Scott talks about this, was it one take? 171 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: I believe it was. 172 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 173 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm sure like they could have done 174 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: it's another take, but you just have to like get 175 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: him out and try him. 176 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: And yeah, it was taken a while. But I think 177 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: what I recall him saying in the past is that 178 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: the walk and talk leading up to it. They did 179 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: like a gazillion takes of that, but the actual part 180 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: on the bridge with the push, that was just one. 181 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 182 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't be like it wouldn't be consecutive like 183 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: they would need you. Wow. Yeah, I what a great 184 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: way to like launch into Yeah. 185 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: And I will say so I watched this episode twice, 186 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: and the first time I watched it, I just was 187 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: trying to refresh my mind on the story. So I 188 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: watched it at one and a half speed so it 189 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: was faster and that push scene is hilarious. 190 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: Oh okay, So I had to finish this episode this morning. 191 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: I had like a meeting that got canceled, so I 192 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: was like, oh great, I have like extra time. But 193 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: then I was like, it's taking all at long, So 194 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: I want to watch it watching them walk in one 195 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: point five speed on Netflix and then the shove it 196 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 3: is the funniest thing. I watched it in that speed too. 197 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: It's so funny. And then I went back and watched 198 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: it a normal speed. 199 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 200 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: And then when he meets Rory, I mean, like I 201 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: just I just like was the stereo at that too? 202 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: I didn't know, do you think they just met on 203 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: the show? They weren't dating by then, right. 204 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so, you know, they weren't dating 205 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: it because. 206 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: When the way he looks at her when she says 207 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: don't I look trustworthy? I was like, and the way 208 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: he the look he gives her, I'm just like, Oh, 209 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 4: he loves Alexus Wladel. 210 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: He's a great actor. 211 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 4: I know, but exactly so I liked that too. And 212 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: she's just so casual whatever. It's like, oh yeah, my book. 213 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: So I was waiting for that because I we see Jess, 214 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: we get he it's all grumpy and then he's then 215 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: I was waiting for the Rory meet up at the 216 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: dinner and I was like, oh okay, because I didn't 217 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: know how them too met. And I just loved the 218 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: way he looked at her and it's like, don't I 219 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: look trustworthy? 220 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: And he just except when he walked into the house, 221 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: he just like walked in and started like going through 222 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 3: the house and like grabbing the photos and I was. 223 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, hold up, he's such a grump. Yeah yeah. 224 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: They went and got a beer and. 225 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: Then he's like ready to just jump out the window 226 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: and bail. 227 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: I would I would be lore like to and being like, 228 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: you don't talk to me in that way in my house. 229 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, girl, yes. 230 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, seventeen year old taking beer out of my fridge. 231 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: No, that's not way, by the way, after being there 232 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,239 Speaker 3: for like thirty five seconds, I know, like take a little. 233 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: But it paints a picture, right, Like we see that 234 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: he's a troublemaker. We've already we get a call from 235 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Taylor Docy already in this episode that you know he's 236 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: taking money out of the donation cam. 237 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Well that was after the dinner. 238 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah yeah yeah, I'm just saying, like the 239 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: whole like his whole baby is painting the picture. 240 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: The gnome thing, too, is another iconic thing. I didn't 241 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 4: know it was in this episode Ei there. I was 242 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: like when they talk about gnomes before and I was like, 243 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: what is this gnome talk? 244 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: Wait? 245 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a nome? 246 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. That's like an actual, like big 247 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 3: moment the time. 248 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard it before, like or I like with 249 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 4: the gnomes, and I was like, what is that? 250 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: And then it's in this episode. Oh, it's like literally 251 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: a gnome bad bad, Yeah. 252 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: Literally you can hear them talking to you at night. 253 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: She was great just to just to take it back before. 254 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: Before Jess got there, and he's like, he bought a 255 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 3: bunch of stuff for his apartment, like food and stuff. 256 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: I really want to know. 257 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 3: Why there were like six boxes of rice crispy trees. 258 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: And they were all open too. 259 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Did you notice they were all they were all open? 260 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, who is eating this much? 261 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I love rice krispy trees, don't get me wrong, 262 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: but I'm like, what he could have gotten, like I 263 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: don't know anything else? 264 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Well, and the fact that he called out to just 265 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: like I got what did you say, oh, frosted flakes? 266 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: I got frosted flakes. Like it's clear he has no 267 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: idea what a seventeen year old wants. 268 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: No, But I mean, you gotta give it to Luke. 269 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: He was trying. 270 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, oh dub. I mean I liked. One 271 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: of the things I like so much about this episode 272 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: is that we got a lot of Luke's backstory and 273 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: really see like how loyal or how important family loyalty 274 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: is to him. Like he's he probably wouldn't have like 275 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: voluntarily gone out and adopted a seventeen year old, but 276 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: it's his family, and so he feels a responsibility towards 277 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: his family to do what's right. 278 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: So Elsa just shows you that, like especially at the 279 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: end when he comes to find the gnome and he's like, 280 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: you know, you're gonna get off, you're gonna put the 281 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: patch on, you're gonna stop smoking, you're gonna work, You're 282 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: gonna do this. You can tell that Liz has never 283 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: done that to Jess. Yes, yeah, you can tell that. 284 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: Like this kid is seventeen years old and he, for 285 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: his seventeen years on this earth has done whatever he wants. 286 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: And I know that it was a little bit of 287 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: Lorelized influence to Luke, But I do like that Luke 288 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: didn't wait to like put his foot down, like this 289 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: is probably what like his second night there at this point, 290 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: Like he put his foot down on day two and 291 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: was like, you're gonna live under this roof. You're gonna 292 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: do now, mind you. He then left the apartment and 293 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: said I'm leaving an not come back. But you know 294 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: he at least said it, yeah, yeah, put his foot down. 295 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: He's trying to do well. But also stars Hollow is 296 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: it's never been like disruptive, like like disrupted by anything 297 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: like this before. And that one scene when he walks 298 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: out of the diner. What was the song that was playing? 299 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: It was like this is l or something. 300 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, I was like, wow, what a great use 301 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 5: of music because you're using his point of view, not 302 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 5: like the la la lahs that we usually. 303 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the perfect song selection there. 304 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 305 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: Did you guys notice that when Jess was sitting there 306 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: and he had his little like plate of cigarettes next 307 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: to him, and then there was something else And I 308 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 4: was like what is that? It was like mush or 309 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 4: I don't know what what on a yellow plate. 310 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was something on his left side. I couldn't 311 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: tell what that was. Either it was a plate of something, 312 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: but it was I don't know. I couldn't figure out 313 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: what it was either, like was it food? I don't know. 314 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see that. 315 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: But the one thing that I paid attention to is 316 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: when it's the first time where he's sitting on like 317 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: his little cot whatever it is, right and he has 318 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: a stack of cards. He's not shuff This has pissed 319 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: me off so much. He's not shuffling the cards, but 320 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: take the cards. 321 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: Did you see this? 322 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 323 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: He would take the cards and he. 324 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: Would like like pan them open. Yeah, and then just 325 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: close it and then like pan them open and close it. 326 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: And it was driving me and said, I'm like, oh, 327 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: least sit and shuff full of cards, like put some. 328 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: Use into like this energy. 329 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: And then he did that little magic trick with Rory 330 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 4: and I'm like, are you a magician? 331 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: But it was the same This is so specific. 332 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: It was the same hand motion, so I wonder if 333 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: he was just like working on his magic. 334 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very odd. 335 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: I just I was so distracted by like the cards 336 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: that scene that I had to rewatch the scene because 337 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: I was like, what did Luke say? I guess let's 338 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: jump to Paris real quick. 339 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 340 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: When Rory wrote that stellar article about the what was 341 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: it the paper, I was like, you know what, that's 342 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: the way to do it. 343 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: You just put your. 344 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: Head down and you do the job, and you do 345 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: it well and pissed off Paris. 346 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: Mind you, Paris had this. 347 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: Maxim Medina thing in her back pocket, unfortunately, But I 348 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: liked this bancer and it's like the banster that's going 349 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: to continue for like the rest of the show. 350 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice to see the good guy when 351 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: after Paris kind of screwed her by telling her the 352 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: wrong time to show up, and so she made a 353 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: total fool of herself because she came in forty five 354 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: minutes late. And so I loved that the teacher was like, 355 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: you know, she wrote a really good article, Give her 356 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: something better next time. I love that vindication. 357 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't, But I will say I didn't 358 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: see anything else in this episode of like things I 359 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: wanted to point out or was there anything you had? 360 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: The only thing that I was going to call out 361 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: because I know that somebody will mention it in the 362 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: comments if we don't, okay, is the comment when Laurel 363 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: I asks Luke what happened to Jess's dad, and Luke says, 364 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: the hot like the hot Dog King took off two 365 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: years ago. Because later on when we meet Liz, so 366 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: he says in this episode, later on, when he's blowing 367 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: up the raft slash bed, he says that right after 368 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: high school, Liz married the hot Dog King, So if 369 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: Jess is seventeen, that means Liz was married for fifteen years. 370 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: And then but then when we actually do meet Liz, 371 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: they make it sound like she's just had this endless 372 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: string of boyfriends, and Jess is talking about how he 373 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: doesn't like any of the guys. 374 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 3: That she goes out, and then we go see the 375 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: dad in California. 376 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: Right, and then well, Jimmy the dad comes to Stars 377 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: Hollow and Luke confronts him in the hotel room and 378 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: he says in that episode that Jimmy left to go 379 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: get diapers and never came back. So once Liz is 380 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: in the picture, then they make it sound like Jimmy 381 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: left when Jess was just. 382 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: A bunch of inconsistency with the dad. 383 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: Right, because in this episode they were married for a 384 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: long time, but then in later episodes they she was 385 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: dating all these random randos and. 386 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: It went right over my head to be I like 387 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 3: heard it, but like I didn't pay attention, Like I 388 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: was like, uh whatever, Yeah. 389 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: I just see it come up a lot. And so 390 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: there's always like a debate about I mean it's not 391 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: really a debate because it's just an inconsistency, but about 392 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: you know, Jess's dad, and so yeah, just one of 393 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 2: those things that comes up. 394 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: But really this episode had like nothing else that was 395 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: like I have to it was like a perfect episode. 396 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: It was really good. Yeah, and that editing trick with 397 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: the van like that was so cool because if like 398 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: if you if you don't know the physical layout, you 399 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: don't realize that those two things aren't right next to 400 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: each other. 401 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: In real life, it's like a fifteen minute walk from 402 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: where the school is, like really like it's not close. 403 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean it's not It's not right around the corner 404 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: like that. 405 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: But that's what threw me off because I was like, 406 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: when did it Stars Hall have this dirt road behind it? 407 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: Like I knew it was because I've been on the lot, 408 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: so I knew like geographically it wasn't correct, But like 409 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: in the show, I'm like, do we ever see this again? 410 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Because I know that, like Rory drives. 411 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 3: School in the jeep and she's like on her way, 412 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: so it is like a backroad, but it's like I 413 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: don't know. 414 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to remember if. 415 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: We it's also right by where the shed, like yes, 416 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: if we're thinking of like actual like literal location to 417 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: the left of where that all happened, is the shed, Yes, 418 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: that lourle I and Rory grew up in right or 419 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 3: went to after she left the Gilmore's. 420 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: Which would put the Independence in like right next to 421 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: Stars Hall of Lot. We know, doesn't make any sense 422 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: movie magic. 423 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: You know that meme that's like I know what it's like, 424 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: I know like this, this house or whatever. I'm like, 425 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: I I know the map of stars Hollow more than 426 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: I know like my own neighborhood. Like I'm that person 427 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 3: who even though I'm driving like ten minutes away, I 428 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: still could have been navigation, like I know where to go. 429 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: It's more of like a time thing, like right, how long? 430 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: It's like what if the road's blocked you have to 431 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: go a different way? 432 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: Like well, yeah, and I know all the different ways, 433 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: but I want my map to tell me. 434 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: It's not like the days of map quest. Oh yeah, 435 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: to print. 436 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: It out and you had one out and then you're 437 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: trying to read it while you're driving. I do not 438 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: miss that. 439 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: Between that and then like texting and driving was like 440 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: still allowed you like kind of wonder like how. 441 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: Did we we get around? 442 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 2: I know, how did we get anywhere? It's so we're 443 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 2: so reliant on our devices. 444 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: Now, yep. 445 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 3: But other than that, I guess it was a fabulous episode. 446 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: Welcome Milo, two Gilmore girls, You're here to stay for 447 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: a tad bit. But yeah, it was funny because I 448 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 3: watched the opening credits I'm like, damn, they threw them 449 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 3: in this opening credit quick. 450 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: That's fretty yeah. I didn't even notice that. That's awesome, though, 451 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: I like missed the plan for him to stay. 452 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, what happened is I missed 453 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: the frame, like the timeframe of when you can skip 454 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: the music, like you know, when it like goes away 455 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 3: after five seconds. Night. I was like, oh, I guess 456 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: I'll just play it. And then I was like, Milo's 457 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 3: in this, But now I'm wondering is he in all 458 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 3: of season two's credits. I don't know, but I let 459 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: this one roll so I notice this one. 460 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: Maybe because I know, like other people, like other regulars, 461 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: they just they're just left in there even if they're 462 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: not in that episode, like like Suki and Michelle and 463 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: those people, even if they're not in the episode, they're 464 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: still true. Yeah. 465 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: Well, next week we're gonna be watching Season two, episode six, 466 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: presenting Lorile Gilmore. 467 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: That's another fun episode. 468 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: You're right, this one Tristan's in. 469 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: Yes, I jumped ahead of myself because I now I 470 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: read this how and I was like, oh, it's all 471 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: coming back to me. Yeah, all right, Well, we'll see 472 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: you next week meeting adjourn. Hey everybody, and don't forget. 473 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: Follow us on Instagram at I Am All In Podcast 474 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com