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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them.

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Speaker 2: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride. And

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Speaker 2: our comic girl shared for the right team Drama Queens.

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Speaker 2: Jaylie's my girl Girl Fashion, but your tough girl. You

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, John the

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Speaker 1: Queens Drama Queens.

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Speaker 2: Hi Friends, welcome back. We have Amanda Shule today and

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Speaker 2: we're talking all about episode seven one. What's in the

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Speaker 2: ground belongs to you? We have a synopsis. Here is

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Speaker 2: it in the chat? Amanda, Amanda, do you want to

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Speaker 2: do the honors and read the synopsis for us?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Nathan struggles to reach an increasingly despondent Haley, while

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Speaker 3: Quinn leads Jamie on this is an in it, but

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Speaker 3: what an epic Tree Hill treasure hunt? Oh yeah, holy

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Speaker 3: col Julian shows his finished film to Brook and Clay

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Speaker 3: is for to deal with deranged.

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Speaker 4: Katie after he spent the whole Q and A trying

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Speaker 4: to humanize her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, de ranged. This was directed by Peter Kowalski. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's get into it, guys. Wow, where do we start?

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Speaker 4: What a fun episode.

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Speaker 2: It really was. I have to say I was all

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Speaker 2: here for this treasure hunt that this was my favorite

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Speaker 2: thing in the episode. I just kept waiting for these

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Speaker 2: scenes to come back. I was. I loved watching Chantelle

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Speaker 2: and Jackson run around Wilmington. You could tell Chantelle was

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Speaker 2: It was such a great idea, and as a parent,

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Speaker 4: And the choice to open up though on the shot

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Speaker 4: the camera at a low angle, Oh yeah, I was like,

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Speaker 4: miss is she bearing a body?

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Speaker 2: Yes, she preparing to marry a body? What is going on?

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Speaker 4: That was a great, great little teaser.

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Speaker 3: M Oh yeah. I really enjoyed because she I did

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Speaker 3: believe everything that Chantal was saying. I believe it, and

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Speaker 3: I loved how she like led him along with it.

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Speaker 3: She never did like a wink wink you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was she was at his level, just playing, having fun,

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Speaker 3: and that was really enjoyable. But every single time they appeared,

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Speaker 3: I was like, she waded into a fountain earlier that

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Speaker 3: like the Aunt of the Year award.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so chantal too, by the way, I

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Speaker 4: It's so sweet. She goes full out. But it was

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Speaker 4: it was so good. We were talking about this last

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Speaker 4: was saying, as a parent, it means so much when

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Speaker 4: show up for your child, And so I was saying

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Speaker 4: I watched it, and I because I've been sort of

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Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting how it colors everything you see now

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Speaker 3: seeing it and appreciating it differently, and now you have

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Speaker 4: And to see that Quinn put listen. It would have

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Speaker 4: it was like, Hey, this is something important to me

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Speaker 4: That would have been great. But the fact that she did,

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Speaker 4: I mean, let's be honest, that's about a whole day's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, epic, epic treasure hunt, Quinn saving the day.

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Speaker 4: How about the opposite of Quinn. Yeah, I think we're

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Speaker 4: falling apart. That was another shade of it was that

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Speaker 3: Not needing to talk about it either. That That's also

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Speaker 3: but it is, it is. It is really different to

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Speaker 3: showing up and not needing it to show up because

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Speaker 3: this movie and we're just gonna watch this movie. You know.

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Speaker 2: That's so true. Kids don't want to talk about the thing,

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Speaker 2: and they don't necessarily need to, Like I learned that

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Speaker 2: you're boring me. I don't. I'm it's too much. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So it takes it's a skill to learn how to

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Speaker 2: Things get worked out Sometimes just by being in someone's presence,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it don't like to talk about it,

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's partially because of what we were

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Speaker 2: talking about earlier about how people, you know, the very

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Speaker 2: human nature to want to compartmentalize and reduce people down

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Speaker 4: All the time we are all the time we are.

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Speaker 4: I mean think I try to remind myself it's like,

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Speaker 4: They probably think they're better than me. It's like I

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Speaker 4: you know. And I think kids just they haven't had

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Speaker 2: And they take you at your word too, like if

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Speaker 3: Thank you some of your apology, accept it and move on. Yes, man, Hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: Can we do that?

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Speaker 4: Guys, we're like the emotional goonies. Okay, we're going on

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Speaker 4: our own adventure hoping to find serenity in peace. Yes, Like,

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Speaker 4: let's check back in a month. I'm so in for that.

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Speaker 4: I'm in it. And I have a note in my phone.

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Speaker 4: I have two notes that I keep at the bottom

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Speaker 4: and one of them is just don't take it all

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Speaker 4: supposed to go. Yeah, good, because it's like, but the kids,

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Speaker 4: because in my head it's like, come on, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: you know, this isn't when we do bath times. It's

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Speaker 4: like it's bath time. It's just a bath like it's

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Speaker 4: the steaks couldn't be lower. You're just tired and you

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Speaker 4: haven't had a meal in eight hours. Have a snack,

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Speaker 3: It's all okay, the stakes couldn't below.

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Speaker 2: I see it. But it really grows in us the

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Speaker 2: older we get. You know, my daughter's thirteen. Now I

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Speaker 2: It's not that wasn't there when she was five and

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Speaker 2: And it's the repetitive squashing of curiosity, I think, and

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Speaker 3: And judgment and yes, right, squashing of curiosity and also

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, makes a horrible comment to her, and her

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Speaker 4: Not okay, and then and then they go. Then My

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Speaker 4: It's conceivably like six months away from being locked, and

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Speaker 2: Those publicists are working.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they are. It's just funny that the host is like,

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Speaker 4: Gosh, yes, I had a huge we both we both

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm glad. I'll listen to it. I haven't

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Speaker 4: in that tape that got was treated lighthearted, as if

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Speaker 4: it wasn't a big deal. So yeah, we spent a

434
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Speaker 4: good amount of time, okay, talking about how that didn't

435
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Speaker 4: quite sit right.

436
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so now we're still dealing with the aftermath of that.

437
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: In a sort of tongue in cheek ha ha. Well

438
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: let's make the best of it kind of way. But

439
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: I do enjoy watching the two of them. I mean

440
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: it's really it's really fun to see them, to see

441
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: any couple that has chemistry, watching them hate each other

442
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: and then play like they love each other. It's kind

443
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Speaker 2: of a fun device.

444
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Speaker 4: Also to your point about how it was the way,

445
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 4: it's just sort of the whole tape thing got like

446
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 4: laughed at and downplayed. There's a scene in the episode

447
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 4: where it's after the talk show appearance. Alex goes to

448
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 4: trick Chase, our favorite bartender, apparently the only bartender outside

449
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 4: of Grabs and Olive Tree Hill. But that's great, I'll

450
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 4: take all the Stephen Clady I can get. But it's like,

451
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Speaker 4: can we get him in a scene outside of the

452
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Speaker 4: bar soon? But anyways, he's there and he's sulking because

453
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: we find out me I broke up with him over

454
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: text message bummer, and Alex is sulking and she says,

455
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm having a bad day.

456
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Speaker 3: You know.

457
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Speaker 4: He's like, you're in a relations what do you have

458
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 4: to complain about? And he's like, the talk show's currently on,

459
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 4: and she's like it's fake. It's all because of the

460
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: sex tape. And Chase doesn't even look up at her

461
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Speaker 4: and goes, yeah, seeing it, you're prettier in person, dude.

462
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Speaker 4: What First of all, Chase has been a sensitive guy.

463
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Speaker 4: He has showed a lot of heart up to this point,

464
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Speaker 4: and I just thought that was the most inappropriate dismissive comment.

465
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Speaker 4: How you could casually say no, Yeah, I watched the

466
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Speaker 4: sex tape you're in and it's like I had to

467
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Speaker 4: pause it and rewinding because I thought for sure I

468
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Speaker 4: misheard what he said. Nope, with the subtitles on, that's

469
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Speaker 4: what he said, the subtitle song. What is that?

470
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Speaker 3: I mean?

471
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Speaker 2: This is the stuff that frustrated me behind the scenes

472
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: on our show is when they started giving lines of

473
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Speaker 2: dialogue like that. Our boss would start giving lines of

474
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: dialogue like that to actors who were not series regulars

475
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: and who didn't really have the ability to say, you

476
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Speaker 2: know what, this doesn't feel right, like this not only

477
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Speaker 2: does this not connect with my character, but it's degrading

478
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Speaker 2: and like, I don't think that's what we're trying to

479
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: do on this show. Is there something else I can say?

480
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: Is there another way we could phrase this? They those

481
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: actors weren't in a position to speak up and say

482
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Speaker 2: anything like that because there was this looming threat of like, oh,

483
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Speaker 2: if you say anything other than exactly what's on the page,

484
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Speaker 2: or even have a question about it, like we'll just

485
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Speaker 2: replace you. We don't need you on this show. We'll

486
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Speaker 2: bring in another person to fill in our huge cast.

487
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Speaker 3: May I say, as a guest star, not necessarily on

488
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Speaker 3: this show, but I have been lucky enough to be

489
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Speaker 3: a guest star on a lot of other shows. You're

490
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Speaker 3: you're just sitting at the table for the day. You know,

491
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Speaker 3: it's not your class, you know, you're just it's somebody

492
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: else's house, and you just kind of do what you're told.

493
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Speaker 3: And I know I, personally, especially at that point in

494
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Speaker 3: my career, wouldn't have felt comfortable if I had had

495
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Speaker 3: the opportunity to, you know, to have dialogue that felt

496
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Speaker 3: dismissive or unkind or sexist or bigoted or you know whatever,

497
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Speaker 3: you know, fill in the blank. I wouldn't have felt

498
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Speaker 3: comfortable just because maybe that is the tone of the

499
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Speaker 3: show and I just don't understand maybe that is where

500
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Speaker 3: they want to go. And for the reason that you

501
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Speaker 3: just said, also, you know the retribution personally that you

502
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: you my face. But there were definitely times when I

503
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: was a guest on a show and I'd be like, well,

504
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: not what I would say personally, But it's their show. Yeah,

505
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: just show up, stay my langes lines, stand on my mark.

506
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Speaker 2: I find that so unfortunate though, because the nature of

507
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: acting is exploration and play, and there should be a

508
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: space for everyone to come to the table with their

509
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: own ideas rather than just showing up and sitting there

510
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: and saying the lines. And I understand the pace of

511
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: TV that we don't have a lot of time to

512
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: sit and explore everyone's thoughts and ideas, but also like

513
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: you should have the phone number of the person who

514
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: is in charge, to the director or the producer whoever,

515
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Speaker 2: And hey, I'm just thinking about this, Like there should

516
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: be a space of, I mean, an attitude of creativity

517
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: and collaboration on every set. I think it would be

518
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: so much more healthy and you'd probably get better performances

519
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: from everyone across the board any show. And if the

520
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: answers no, the answers no. But to not be able

521
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 2: to ask a question, to not be able to like

522
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: raise the idea of could this go a different way?

523
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: Like I'm wondering about this. I'm wondering about that. I

524
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: know I've been a guest star too, I know how

525
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: that feels. It's like, oh, it's uncomfortable, but I think

526
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: people should feel like they they can do that because

527
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: the work turns out better when you do. But it's

528
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: usually a power trip, you know the thing. It's hard

529
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Speaker 2: to find that it's.

530
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Speaker 4: And it's so hard to do when you're the guest

531
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Speaker 4: star because, like Amanda said, you are a visitor at

532
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: the dinner party. You're a guest. Yeah, you don't live there.

533
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: And it's also it's kind of not barring something like

534
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: wildly egregious. You know, it's it's not really the response.

535
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: It's not fair for the responsibility to be on the

536
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Speaker 4: guest star because you don't know what's been happening in

537
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: all of the episodes prior that haven't aired. You don't

538
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: know if there's been a tonal shift lately. So it's

539
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 4: it's hard. It's hard for you to be the one

540
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: sort of deciding whether it's too far or not. Like

541
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Speaker 4: that that's the case when you know the onset producer

542
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: in an ideal world who has a firm grasp on

543
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 4: the tone and the stories goes yeah yeah, Like as

544
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: the guest are you're kind of like the best question

545
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 4: you can ask is this seems a little harsh. Yeah,

546
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: you know, and Hope the director who's also just a

547
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: guest star, you know, goes, yes, here's why, you know,

548
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: But it's TV. When you're making it's different when you

549
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: do like a movie. Right, it gets collaborative with the

550
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: right crew because it's a short sprint. When you're doing

551
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: twenty four episodes a year, it very quickly turns into

552
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: a factory where every directors are just trying to make

553
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 4: a day. People are just trying to do it, and

554
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: so it's not an environment at all that's conducive to going.

555
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: Can we circle up and talk about this, you know.

556
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's fair. But Stephen COLLETTI was and maybe

557
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: that's true for you're popping in for one episode, like

558
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: I get that, but Stephen was around. I mean, he

559
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: was a staple on the show. He wasn't a series regular,

560
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: but he was technically a guest are recurring. But also

561
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: still in this position where I don't think there was

562
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: a culture on our show of collaboration, especially unless you

563
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: were a series regular, and then you could, you know,

564
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: you had the space to push back. So I hope anyway,

565
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I hope that that culture of collaboration

566
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: and creativity is something that there are producers out there

567
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: who are looking for and trying to create in their environments.

568
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: And I bet that's why lines like this slipped through

569
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: the cracks, because it isn't in keeping with Chase's character.

570
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Speaker 2: I don't know why, you know, it's the only thing

571
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: I could come up with with. Why Stephen wouldn't have

572
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 2: changed it?

573
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows. Maybe he did change it and that's

574
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: just not the take they used.

575
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's true too, Yeah, you know what that often happens.

576
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: Just yeah, try it your way. Just let's do it

577
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: for you.

578
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: Let's do one is scripted, and then we can let's

579
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: go with what you have. Ye did I have a

580
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: roll on the second tape. Let's get to some of

581
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: the real fun, juicy stuff involving yourself. I had this thought,

582
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: so when Clay sees the grape juice in the fridge,

583
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 4: because this is one of the things I vaguely remember

584
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 4: because at first I thought, why is Clay looking at

585
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 4: the grape juice like it's a childhood bully? And then

586
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: I remembered, and I thought, listen. And then there's the

587
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: next scene where he comes home and Katie's doing dishes.

588
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: No one wants a stalker, obviously, Yeah, horrendous, But hear

589
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: me out, a stalker who makes your favorite drink, so

590
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: it's ready for you chewing in the fridge when you

591
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 4: come home and does your dishes, you know. So it's

592
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: not all bad that storm cloud houses silver lining on it.

593
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, thoughts, I'm not arguing that.

594
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: I wondered for a minute if Clay was going to

595
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: buy it only a little like you were so convincing, Amanda,

596
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: you're very good. I did wonder if Clay was going

597
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: to be like, am I crazy?

598
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: Well, there's a mislead at the very end, not to

599
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: jump ahead when we as an audience are supposed to

600
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: think that he did buy it, right, Yeah, yeah, that's

601
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 3: it's my wife, you know. And and so there is

602
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: that that that at the very end. But in that moment, Yeah,

603
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: I can see if you come home a little unsettling.

604
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: The door isn't broken somehow, master lock bicker, but in

605
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: there doing the dishes and like frying up eggs or

606
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: you know whatever, not the worst thing to come home too.

607
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, she didn't make a mess. She tied it up.

608
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: You pay people to do that. Yeah, he's a bit ungrateful,

609
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: is what I'm saying. I mean, she didn't have a

610
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: stalker buddy, could show a little gratitude.

611
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: You know.

612
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: I had this conversation with Sophia last week where it's

613
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: this really funny thing that our show does, but also

614
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: I think a lot of shows and movies do where

615
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: there is this weird thing that happens when a character

616
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 4: goes off the deep end. They not only go a

617
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: bit cracker Jacks, but they also simultaneously become an expert

618
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: lock pick, lock picker and cat burglar. Where it's like,

619
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: with with You're crazy, is gonna come some incredible sleuthing

620
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: and lock picking. Because all of a sudden, Katie is

621
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: scaling second story balconies, she is expertly getting into the

622
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: house undetected. She's getting back an alarm system the art gallery.

623
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Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know how a tennis player is

624
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: suddenly new, but I just like that we all make

625
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: this leap in logic where it's like, well, guys, she's

626
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 4: she's gone cuckoo for cocoa puff, so clearly she can

627
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 4: pick a lock and hack an alarm system.

628
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: I appreciate that you're seeing it so one sidedly you're

629
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: not her first victim.

630
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: Play was her first and only room.

631
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: Sorry, that's fair.

632
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: It's a fair point to Clay. Wow, hard truths being

633
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 4: shared on this episode of Drama Queens. You played it great, though.

634
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: I mean there's some really awesome scenes in seven twenty

635
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: between you and Quinn at the art gallery where you're

636
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 4: just there. I think there's there is a an inexperienced

637
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: actors choice when they're told to play a character who's

638
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: unhinged to do more and to be bigger, and I

639
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: think there's a power and doing less. And that's what

640
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 4: you did in the art gallery with Quinn, especially when

641
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 4: you kind of corner her in the back room. There

642
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: is a real ominous feeling throughout that whole scene where

643
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: she's sort of the trapped prey and you're the predator,

644
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: and your stillness works so well for creating such an uncomfortable,

645
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 4: tense feeling.

646
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Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you. I think that people who are

647
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: more contained are way less scarier than those who like

648
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: somebody like a fighter, you know, like a physical fighter

649
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: who can channel and focus all of their energy, so

650
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: their outbursts are like a viper. You know, you don't

651
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: expect it as opposed to somebody who shows their cards,

652
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: you know, and is flailing all around. It's way scarier

653
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: to have the rage simmering, you know, and where it's

654
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: not on display and you don't know what the next

655
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: move is going to be.

656
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an unpredictability.

657
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: That's the better word for it.

658
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 4: So let's continue then with it, because it does not disappoint.

659
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: The crazy train stays on the rails, picks up some speed.

660
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 4: Clay gets a phone call and I was very confused

661
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: as to why that phone call wouldn't be because it's

662
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 4: from the police, obviously saying this. Gal says she knows you.

663
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: She's hanging from a bridge, which, by the way, a

664
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: bridge that is definitely not high enough to do bodily harm.

665
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: At worst you would sprain an ankle or get a

666
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 4: really bad belly flog. Yeah, but I love that all

667
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: of the police in tree Hill have shown up for

668
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: this potential sprained ankle.

669
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: I don't Also, by the way, that was way lower

670
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: than the bridge that you and I jumped off.

671
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 4: Yes, it wasn't the same bridge, No, oh no, because

672
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 4: the one we jumped off was a proper bridge. This

673
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: was a pier.

674
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: Oh right, Why didn't they send you guys to the

675
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: same bridge. Wouldn't that have been kind of the point

676
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: with Katie?

677
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she would have survived that one. I guess

678
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: maybe the thought is that she'd time it with the

679
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: tide so that it would be it would wash.

680
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: But if that's the case, don't show the whole pier

681
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 4: in a master shot. Yeah, never show us that, just

682
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: and let us fill in the blank, and we will

683
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 4: paint a much higher peer in our imagination. So the

684
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 4: fact that you would be hanging the outside of it

685
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 4: and anyone would be like, ma'am, you could hurt yourself

686
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 4: falling fifteen feet into water, are you okay? You know,

687
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: like it was so confusing. But the fact that Clay

688
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 4: gets a call from all of the police departments saying

689
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: you gotta come quick. This gal's twenty feet up in

690
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 4: the air above water, and he doesn't go no, yeah, yeah,

691
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: she's my stalker. Absolutely not.

692
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck, guys. Bye.

693
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: He wants the notebook back, okay.

694
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 4: See that's fair. And I also think it's one of

695
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: those moments of just getting to see Clay's character and

696
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: that he sees beyond the unhinged behavior and he sees

697
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: a person underneath and he's choosing to show up for

698
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 4: that person, which I thought very compassionate. Right, So he

699
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 4: plays along, he does the ruse. Katie is supposedly gonna

700
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: get help, but when they yeah, but when then they

701
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: cut to the master and you can see that the

702
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 4: pier is like, at best twenty feet above water. I

703
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: was like, what if it is low tide, then why

704
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: not have her go on the ledge of a building?

705
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 5: You know?

706
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 4: It was just it was odd, it was.

707
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: Pretty, it was pretty. There was something sort of sadly

708
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: romantic about the whole thing. I really it broke my heart.

709
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean, when you let her go into the arms

710
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: of the police and you're like, it's gonna be okay,

711
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 2: They're going to help you. I guess I felt maybe

712
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: maybe he felt the the sting of having to send Sarah,

713
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: like he knows it's not Sarah, but she looks so

714
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: much like him. Is there a part of you that

715
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: felt like you had to or that Clay had to

716
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: wrestle with that, or were you in full like she's

717
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: fully crazy the whole thing, And I was just putting

718
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: my own interpretation on that.

719
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: I think it was Clay was grieving, and I think

720
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 4: there is one form of grieving, which is just avoidance.

721
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 4: So I don't know, Uh, I just remember thinking that

722
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 4: it's it's not easy for Clay because he's not actively

723
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: facing it every day, like he's sort of doing a

724
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: slow grieving, But having to play this game with Katie

725
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 4: is really bringing it right up to the forefront and

726
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 4: having to say things aloud like Sarah died, She's not

727
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 4: here anymore. Oh, He's like he is having to echo

728
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: the painful truths that he may not wanting to be

729
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: facing every day.

730
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: So Katie is actually facilitating his recovery.

731
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: Keisha, I'm telling you, did I not say five minutes ago?

732
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: He should have a little more gratitude for Katy.

733
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, she does the dishes and she helps with mental

734
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: health on your side, not so much hers.

735
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: For her, she's selfless. She's a really good friend if

736
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: we think about it. She makes his favorite juice, she

737
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: cleans his house, she helps his emotional and mental well being.

738
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 4: And how does he say thank you? He gets her

739
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: locked up.

740
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Clay's the.

741
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: Villain in this story. I think we're finding out guys clearly.

742
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a plot twist we're just discovering now.

743
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: I can't wait for the spinoff of Katie in her

744
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: roommate just doing whatever they do.

745
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: The things we did for those ungrateful men.

746
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 4: It's going to be good.

747
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: Ye.

748
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: Speaking of good, I loved Alexander and Victoria's storyline the

749
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 4: whole episode.

750
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fun.

751
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 4: They have been so fun to watch. And I was

752
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 4: worried that when Brooke called out Victoria last episode and

753
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 4: she goes, oh, so you're not ashamed of this, I

754
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: thought that was going to be the end of it.

755
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 4: I thought, as soon as the cat's out of the bag,

756
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: the fund's gone.

757
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

758
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: But the fact that she's into him and he's into

759
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: her and now they're talking about doing clothes or excuse

760
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: me close four bros in New York together. I love it.

761
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really sweet.

762
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 4: The only thing I didn't like about it was that

763
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 4: it makes me sad because does that mean we're going

764
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: to be seeing less Victoria in future episodes?

765
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: You know? I think so? I think it does. I know.

766
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: She's so good. Oh man, I remember doing that scene

767
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: with her too, The scene.

768
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 6: Oh that was a beautiful scene and her bros where

769
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 6: she just sits me down and talks about my mother

770
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 6: and what my mother would want for me as Haley.

771
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: I remember shooting that scene with Daphne. Daphnie and I

772
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: were getting close at the time, like we were really

773
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: spending a lot more time together off behind the scenes

774
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: as well, having dinners and just running errands together, and

775
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: she was becoming a mentor for.

776
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 3: Me, and.

777
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: Which I desperately needed at that time in my life.

778
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: And so that scene holds a special place in my

779
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: heart because I remember it feeling very similar to a

780
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: lot of conversations as she and I were having offline,

781
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: you know, off screen. She's such a wonderful woman, like

782
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: really deep, soulful, brilliant woman, and I love seeing that

783
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: come out in Victoria finally too, who we never expected

784
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: that from.

785
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: I also really appreciated that your character didn't respond, that

786
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: it wasn't just a sudden light bulb moment where she

787
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: writers felt compelled to make you say, Okay, I get

788
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: it now, because her words were so sage that another

789
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: script could have the light bulb moment you get it

790
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: and then be just fine, you know, and that's not

791
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: what it was. You processed it, but you were still

792
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: angry at the world, you know.

793
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it still gives us somewhere to go.

794
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: The softer side of Victoria has been so much fun

795
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: to watch come to light and the way she has

796
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 4: shown up for Brook throughout the season and then Millie

797
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: and now Haley, and it was the perfect thing. It's

798
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: kind of like Amanda saying there was such a finesse

799
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: to the scene in that it wasn't forced. Victoria started

800
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 4: by being like, you want to snap at each other,

801
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: I can play this game. I'm better than you. In fact,

802
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: sit down, And then when she sits down, she's like, Okay,

803
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna hit you with some mom truths and

804
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 4: some love, you know. And it's not a hard cell.

805
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: She's just telling her what is and then she's not

806
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: looking for a response, and to the scene's credit, she

807
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: doesn't get it. Yeah, there's nothing forced. Also, before anyone

808
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: comes from me in the comments, I apologize it was

809
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: not grape juice, Clay's favorite drink. Apparently it was grape

810
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 4: kool aid, because I surely would have been roasted for that,

811
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: So that's right, noted fixed.

812
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: Also seeing Brooke respond to Victoria, just emotionally being able

813
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: to watch her mom be a mom, like show up

814
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: as a mom for somebody else. It looked like it

815
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: was really healing for Brook's heart to know that her

816
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: mom has that capacity, and you know, to see the

817
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: arc of their relationship over the course of the last

818
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: few seasons that she she also has grown and arrived

819
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: in this place where she's much more open hearted and

820
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: willing to be vulnerable. I really loved that, And I

821
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: think Brooke is getting so much right now. It's really

822
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 2: nice to see after her struggling through so many things

823
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 2: that finally all the pieces are starting to fall into

824
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: place relationally for her. That does my heart good as

825
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 2: a fan to watch. It's really cool.

826
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 4: Huge. We talked about this last episode that was saying,

827
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 4: it's so nice to get a whole episode of Brilliant

828
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: just being happy, yes, and just delighting in each other

829
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: and having cute date nights and fun bantern being back

830
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: because I'm with you. I'm a big fan of the

831
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 4: two of them, and yeah, they have just been through it.

832
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: We got an episode without Sophia crying, and I was like,

833
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 4: it's about I know, and.

834
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: Even though he's made some bad decisions and she's had

835
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: some misunderstandings and reacted poorly to things without asking the

836
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: right questions or whatever, like, it's just normal relationship stuff.

837
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: But I really loved being able to see that work

838
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: through those things instead of what teenagers do, which is

839
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: what we saw for so many years on the show,

840
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: which is just blow up at each other and then

841
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: you break up or you disappear like they're really having

842
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: a very mature adult relationship and not reducing each other

843
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: down to their worst qualities and making space for I

844
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: accept you for who you are. This part of you

845
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: really bothers me, but I can manage it, and we're

846
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: going to grow. We'll grow through it. It's just so adult.

847
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah, and the way she is showing

848
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 4: up for him as a teammate when yes, he's waiting

849
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: to hear about the festival and she's just kind of

850
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: calming and cheering him on.

851
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: You know, well she's also already plugged the name of

852
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: the festival into her phone. I know.

853
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: So sweet.

854
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 4: She's willing it.

855
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 5: She is.

856
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: Did we talk about India and grubs yet? Or no,

857
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: Miranda un grubs yet?

858
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: Let's talk about Miranda and grubs.

859
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 3: That was not the travel outfit I would have chosen

860
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 3: for an international fight.

861
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 6: That was the thing that was like, that's perfect.

862
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: No, But that was literally the first thing I thought,

863
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: I was like, that's possible for like a like an

864
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: international that's a long that's a long time to be

865
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: I think.

866
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: Miranda strikes me as the kind of person who also

867
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: travels with folded, like carefully folded cashmere pajama sweatsuit in

868
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: a silk bag that probably is in her carry on,

869
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: so she'll dip into the first class lou and change.

870
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: Look at you using the lingo.

871
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like this is her vibe. Man.

872
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: I like the device of this as a way to

873
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: get Grubs and Mia together. I don't know if they

874
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: have a romance or if they just start making music together.

875
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: And I can't remember, but I do like this this

876
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle. But it's kind of sad. It's like,

877
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 2: does this also mean India's leaving?

878
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: Is? Yeah? I mean I hope not. But is she

879
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 4: doing is she pulling a Harry in the Henderson's Is

880
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 4: she doing the thing with him where at the end

881
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 4: when she's like, because I don't want you to come,

882
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: because he's like, you didn't ask if i'd go, and

883
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: she screams at him really harshly.

884
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was intense.

885
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 4: Is she doing the Harry and the Henderson thing where

886
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 4: she really likes him, but she she just knows what's

887
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: better for him.

888
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: I don't.

889
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: Purpose would they send him back out into the wilderness.

890
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ending scene is Casablanca. Like, I feel like

891
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: we've got Harry and the Henderson because A I've already

892
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 3: used it on the show, so people have probably googled

893
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: it or they already know it too.

894
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: I have so little original material.

895
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: They went to their local Blockbuster and got their VHS

896
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 3: and watched it.

897
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: That's right.

898
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 4: It's the end of it where John Lithgout takes the

899
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 4: Bigfoot out to the woods because he realized he can't

900
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: have the life he's supposed to have, living a domestic

901
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 4: life with his family, and Bigfoot's like, what are we

902
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 4: doing here? And he's like get out of here? Bigfoot?

903
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: Of course it is like no, we're best friends, and

904
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: he's like get and then he goes he hits him,

905
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: and he goes, don't you see we don't watch you here?

906
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 4: Go in Bigfoot? Of course, it's like, what the hell

907
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 4: just happened? Fine, and he walks off in nature and

908
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 4: then Liftgout turns to Cameron and he's a tear rolling

909
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 4: down his cheek and he's like, goodbye, my friend.

910
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to watch this show. That sounds terrible.

911
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: Oh you want to hear terrible news. I just found

912
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 4: out this is India's last episode. What oh on? This

913
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 4: is how we send her off being rude to sweet

914
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 4: sweet Grubs.

915
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: Boom is I bet she had something else she was

916
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: going off to do.

917
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure she did.

918
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 3: Yes, she's a very busy working actor, so I'm sure

919
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: that that was the device that exit.

920
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah had to have been. Yeah, well, I think it

921
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: was that she was just pushing him away, like I

922
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: don't want you to go. I don't I she knew

923
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: that he'd be better off there. He's not gonna he's

924
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: not going to build a whole new start, a whole

925
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: new life, a whole new career in England. And yeah,

926
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: she was.

927
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: She was John Let though he was Harry. She was

928
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: the Harrison.

929
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: Ugh, you have such dated references, Amanda. Couldn't you've used

930
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: like Casa Blanca or something younger and hipper?

931
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 3: Gosh, okay, boomer asa Blanc of younger and Hipper. I know, oh,

932
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: I know, that's the magic of your comedy.

933
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: But getting Mia and Grubs into the same room having

934
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: that intro happen. Also a little I was like watching

935
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 2: her walk in when she just broke up with Chase

936
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: on text message and she still passes through the bar like, hey, sorry,

937
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: I broke up with you, but I do need to

938
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: get into the office, Can I can? I can? I

939
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 2: just go into the recording.

940
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 3: Studio real quick?

941
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: Sorry?

942
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: And also wasn't the whole text like, Hey, this isn't

943
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 4: fair to either of us. I'm not around, like I'm

944
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: busy away doing stuff. And then she shows up and

945
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: she's like, gotcha, I actually done. Just don't want to

946
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: be your girlfriend. Yeah. It was odd because she when

947
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: they go outside to talk basically just says this is

948
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: better for you. Why you're here now?

949
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, the text message on his phone was clearly

950
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: written on the phone on the phone on his phone

951
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: because it had a cursor at the end of it.

952
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: That I was like, are we not Are we supposed

953
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: to believe that this is the message that Mia sent

954
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: because it's clearly something that he just wrote on his phone.

955
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: He's just writing it over and over again self punishment.

956
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 4: It did lead to a wonderful scene though, with Julian,

957
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: Alex and Chase where they all come in pretty salty

958
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 4: and just sort of throwing like barbs at each other.

959
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 3: And it's no, I'm in more pain.

960
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 4: The pity pool was crowded that day. And I also

961
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: love though, how it turned into Alex giving Julian a

962
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 4: reality check sort of a prospective shift and helping him

963
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 4: see that like, no, man, this is a this is

964
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: a monster win and it felt very genuine and believable.

965
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I liked it too.

966
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 4: And then did we find out that he got in?

967
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: At the end? He got a call? Didn't he?

968
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: He said hello? And then that was it?

969
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: Right?

970
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: Or did I miss something?

971
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: I think That's all I remember is that she goes, well,

972
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: look who it is or something like that, and he

973
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: answers it. Yeah, but I'm assuming he gets in because

974
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 4: isn't that why we went to Park City?

975
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: Yes? It is, that's right.

976
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, spoiler he got in?

977
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: Alert. Yeah, didn't you all go? Shoot? There? You all

978
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: went on location, didn't you? We did? Yeah? I remember,

979
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 3: I was. I was disappointed that I wasn't. The more

980
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: pivotal part in.

981
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: That she follows she breaks out of the psychiatric hospital

982
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: and follows him.

983
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: There you go? Yeah, No, I remember you all getting

984
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: ready to go. Oh bummer for.

985
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 4: Me, I'm excited to see where the Katie stuff goes.

986
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 4: I remember some of the broad stroke endgame things, but

987
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't remember the road to getting there.

988
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't. This has actually been fun

989
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: for me to watch because I definitely did not watch

990
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: these episodes, and especially with everything going on in my

991
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: personal life and then with Katie, I mean sorry, not Katie,

992
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: with Lydia dying and Haley's whole storyline revolving around depression,

993
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: I just was not. I wasn't aware of really anyone

994
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: else's storyline. I would get the scripts at this point

995
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: and read my scenes and make sure that I wasn't.

996
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: You know, whatever I was connected to I understood, but

997
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: everything else I just I didn't have the capacity.

998
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: For during that time. Did you didn't read the scripts holistically?

999
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: No? I was going through such a I don't know

1000
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: if you know. I wrote a book about being in

1001
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 2: a cult. So I was the New.

1002
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 4: York Times best selling book about being in a cult.

1003
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 3: Thank you, Darling, Jennifer Vampire, excuse me King, I was

1004
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: about to say, please, thank you.

1005
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yes, that was at the sort of pivotal

1006
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: time in my life when everything was really at its

1007
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: absolute worst and I was just surviving and on autopilot.

1008
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: So I would get the scripts and just didn't I

1009
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: didn't have the capacity. I didn't know how to invest

1010
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: myself in other people's storylines. I just had to like

1011
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: get my scripts, learn my lines, and do enough to

1012
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 2: be professional to show up and still keep my job,

1013
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: and then I would get offset and go deal with

1014
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: my personal life. And so this has been really fun

1015
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: to watch back. I didn't even know about this, this

1016
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: scavenger Hunt storyline with Chantelle and Jackson. No, I know

1017
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: very little about what's coming up with Katie and Clay,

1018
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: except for this big fight in the rain, because Chantelle

1019
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: and I were friends and talking and so I would

1020
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: she'd come have a coffee with me after work and

1021
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: be still in her bruises and cuts and scrapes and

1022
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: from whatever you guys were doing together. So I know,

1023
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: something crazy we did.

1024
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 3: That was one of the first scenes, one of the

1025
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: first like people do stunts, actors do more of the action,

1026
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 3: And that was one of the first times I ever

1027
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 3: did like an action fight with another actor.

1028
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: Wow, I think that's fun.

1029
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 4: When you do ventions. Or when you're out in public

1030
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: and you get approached by a fan, how much like

1031
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 4: what's the ratio of they talk about Katie versus they

1032
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 4: talk about Sarah. Who if you had to say, who's

1033
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: the fan favorite? Is it Katie or is it Sarah.

1034
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 3: Katie's not a fan favorite, but she's a fan fascination.

1035
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: You know. People don't like Katie, but they like to

1036
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: not like her, you know, yea, And people were already

1037
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: invested in Clay's storyline at that point, so they are

1038
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: sort of mad. I think. Also, I don't know whether

1039
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 3: you've talked about this a lot, but I have been

1040
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: on a few shows as the mean woman.

1041
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: Or okay, you did pretty Little Liars after.

1042
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 3: That, Pretty Little Liars, But on other shows my character

1043
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 3: has taken a turn, and women really love to pile

1044
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: on the the judgment and the the anger to other women.

1045
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: And I've had a lot of confusion between Haiti and Amanda.

1046
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: And at first it was so strange, hurtful, and then

1047
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 3: it was actually quite complimentary.

1048
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm that good.

1049
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 3: Well, it was more just like there was during that time,

1050
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 3: it was, you know, Twitter was just starting to get big,

1051
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 3: and I I started a Twitter account, kind of just

1052
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: around the time that I was doing these, around these episodes,

1053
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: and somebody started to say some really unkind things to

1054
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 3: me on top on Twitter. And at first, you know,

1055
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: I would vacillate between like either not responding or just

1056
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: doing like a little you know, short response or whatever.

1057
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 3: I never like, I don't read member really engaging, but

1058
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: and they would have to. I think they would get

1059
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 3: shut down because they would change their address quite a bit,

1060
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: their handle. And then it was like I just had

1061
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: this shift, this mental shift where I was like, thank you,

1062
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: thank you so much for being confused, because that means

1063
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: I did my job and I appreciate you. Yes, And

1064
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: once I kind of said that, and I said if

1065
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: you ever want to I think I do remember saying

1066
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: if you ever, you know, want to get together to

1067
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 3: discuss it. Once I called out this person and said

1068
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: that I would engage face to face, it was like

1069
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: game over, you know, yeah, because nobody wanted to step

1070
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: out behind the safety of the computer screen. But it

1071
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: was like people people did love to hate Katie, you know.

1072
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: And that's just one example, Yeah, fear of the unknown.

1073
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 4: Maybe that person just needed a little touch of lithium,

1074
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 4: just like this.

1075
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 3: Little little lithium in the kool aid.

1076
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, it is people. People are People are

1077
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: afraid of things that they don't understand. Speaking of fear

1078
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: of things that we don't understand, we have a listener

1079
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: question tani is asking when you were younger, what is

1080
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: an irrational fear that you had that you thought was

1081
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Speaker 2: an extreme issue. I love this.

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Speaker 4: Cause this is such a good question.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the Bermuda triangle I thought was a really big

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Speaker 2: problem that we had to solve.

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Speaker 3: A lot.

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but there was the other thing too, Like

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00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: remember the tags on the furniture that say do not remove.

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00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: I was absolutely terrified. I remember one day I ripped

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: the tag off. Like I played on my furniture all

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00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: the time. I was always climbing around on things, and

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Speaker 2: I remember we spilled something on the cushion and had

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Speaker 2: to flip it around, and I ripped the tag off.

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00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: And I look at the tag and it says like

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00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: it's like FBI or some.

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Speaker 3: Kind of did people like descend from them? I was

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Speaker 3: afraid of your living room for like a week.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Oh my god, is someone going to

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00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: come arrest me for taking the tag off of this couch?

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Speaker 3: I definitely thought that there was something under my bed

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Speaker 3: kind night, Oh certain of it.

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00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 4: I spent way too much time worried about quicksand than

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00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 4: was probably necessary.

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00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: The Princess Bride ruined us.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why. As a kid growing up in

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00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 4: suburban southern California, quicksand was at the forefront of my

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00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 4: fear list. But yeah, things like quicksand acid rain, Oh, rain,

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00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 4: acid rain. I might drown if I don't wait thirty

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00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 4: minutes after I eat before I sway.

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00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: Quicksand. I did sink into mud about this high ones

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00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: on a hike when I was really young.

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00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: So WHOA listen, Quicksand is an issue. It's a serious problem.

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Speaker 3: Not to reignite any dormant concerns.

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Speaker 4: They're rob but listen. If there had been a political

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00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 4: candidate in nineteen eighty four whose platform was I am

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00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 4: going to fix the quicksand issue the world, I would

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00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 4: have had my vote.

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01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: So fast, your four year old vote.

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Speaker 4: Yep, so good. Oh, Amanda schul you are a delight always.

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01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that I got to be here this

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Speaker 3: morning with you. What a lovely way to spend the sunrise.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being here with me.

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01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 4: Well before we say goodbye, because I just wanted to

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Speaker 4: get in some preliminary compliments before I really hit you

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 4: with the whole barage of them. Afterwards, we do spin

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Speaker 4: a wheel and we do an honorable mention. So we're

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01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 4: not quite done yet. Let's spin that wheel.

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01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: So the wheel is most likely to Amanda. So it's

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01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: like in your high school yearbook, you've got most likely

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01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: to become president, most likely to know join a tennis

1130
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: club or whatever. Anyway, Okay, here's what we have, most

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01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: likely to get locked out of their own house. So

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01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: you have to pick a cast member and then the

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01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: character a character on the show.

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to say this. Here's the person who

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01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 4: is lee likely to ever get locked out of their house.

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01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 4: It's clearly Katie because she can pick locks.

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01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: Pro Yes, absolutely most likely to get locked out of

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01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: their house. I mean, I've been locked out of my

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01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: house multiple times, so it might be me in real life.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say you Joy, because you sort of

1141
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 4: have a tendency to just like leave things behind occasionally.

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01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really absent minded. I'm such an absent minded professor.

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01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: I would say your character, you know around this time,

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01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: is absent minded.

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01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, Haley right now, might be, but Haley

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01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: in regular life definitely not. Haley's the one who's got

1147
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: copies of everyone else's keys and they come to her

1148
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 2: when they lock themselves out of their house.

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Speaker 3: Are we discussing this particular point or in general?

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: Could could be any time?

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01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, oh okay, okay, listen.

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01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 4: If it's at this particular point, I agree it's Haley.

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01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: If it's in general, I'm going to also throw Clay's

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01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 4: hat in the ring, because, as we will see, he's

1155
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 4: pretty good at forgetting things.

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, he's a little spacey right now too, trying

1157
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: to stressed out.

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Speaker 4: Do you have an honorable mention? It's sort of just

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Speaker 4: one thing that stood out to you for the episode.

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Speaker 3: You want to shout out an honorable mention? Uh? Well,

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01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: can we just discuss all the women's skin for just

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01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: a split second? Yes, because I was just the skincare

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01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: routine was on point, your like, the lady's skin was

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01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 3: just a dewy kiss of perfection, and I just want

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01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 3: to honorably mention your skin, Sophia. Well, listen, everyone's skin

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01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 3: was just absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Skin was great. I wish we had somebody to help

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01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: us with our eyebrows, because that was rough. Eyebrows were

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01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: real rough for me back then.

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Speaker 3: Eros didn't stand out to me. Your skin stood out

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad, thank you. Honorable mention for me will

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01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: be Paul Tiel until he's done. I just love watching him.

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01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: I also remember, I think he was twenty when we

1175
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: did this, so all of us were older than him,

1176
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: So he came in at twenty years old playing this,

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01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: you know, hot shot movie star, working with Janna, and

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01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: this might have been his first on camera role too.

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01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: I have to double check that. But he he just

1180
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: was so great and so committed and had really great

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01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,479
Speaker 2: instincts and I love I love watching him and always will.

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01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's.

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Speaker 4: A great one. My honorable mention is Aunt Quinn, who

1184
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 4: clearly wins Aunt of the Year. Oh yeah, we heard

1185
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 4: Goonies inspired treasure Hunt with Jamie. That was awesome.

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01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: Agreed, So good?

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01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 4: What have we got next episode?

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Speaker 2: Joy? Well, the next episode Rob is season seven, episode

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Speaker 2: twenty two. Almost everything I wish I'd said the last

1190
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: time I saw you. That's a very long time a mouthful.

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01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: It just certainly is. I wonder how the episode will.

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01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 4: Be tune in to find out.

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Speaker 2: Thanks everybody, Thank you Amanda for joining us. It's so

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Speaker 2: good to see you. That's your contribution today.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here with you all right.

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Speaker 4: Bye, guys, you're the best buddy. Bye everyone, Bye friends.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review.

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Speaker 3: H or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

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