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Speaker 2: because I know if you own some unmanly with me,

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Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifights, hustle, pet Price,

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Speaker 3: Life, sacrifics, hustle, pet Price, one slice got the bronc

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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shade Shape. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of

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Speaker 1: Club Shape Shape. Today, we all at least go underground

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Speaker 1: at Resources World, Las Vegas, stopping by for conversation on

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Speaker 1: the drink Today is one of the Internet's most popular comedian.

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Speaker 1: He has one of the most watched comedy special ever

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Speaker 1: successful entrepreneur, a confident artist, a comedic genius, a great orator, commentator, producer, hosts, author,

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Speaker 1: age time. Let's give it up for a comics comic.

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Speaker 1: That's the Oli Sadik. I appreciate you stopping about age

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Speaker 1: How was that?

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Speaker 2: That was great? That was great. You put a lot

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Speaker 1: You know, we like to make sure we give our

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Speaker 1: guess when they come, they take time out of their

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Speaker 1: to make sure we give them what they've earned. Not

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Speaker 1: what you deserve, but what you've earned and everything that

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Speaker 1: I read off this card, you've earned it. Bro Yes, sobsolute,

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Speaker 1: I know you. You got off that brown a little

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Speaker 1: while ago. So we go we go to man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I man, that brown is different. Man, it's different.

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Speaker 1: See I thought it was the g because see when

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Speaker 2: Brown man, it's that hen that said, all all that

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Speaker 2: brown is is difficult. It was saying, yeah, look at you.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you that brown is different. Man, It's different.

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Speaker 2: It's different. It gives you a little give give you

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Speaker 2: I don't what you on that brown when you were

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Speaker 2: you something. I don't know. You had on an oversized

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Speaker 2: sweat yeah, and your back muscles was still showing on

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Speaker 2: I man, I we're done.

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Speaker 1: You haven't been in a situation when you go dark. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a whole lot. I just remember getting back.

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Speaker 1: The security took me back and it's like you okay,

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Speaker 2: Hey? Man? Because when I don't know if you did

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Speaker 2: you go back and watch it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I really haven't paid at till I hadn't watched out.

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Speaker 2: You got you got up, and I'm this game is lived.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, what is what is Shaw done? Yeah? Man?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know what's said to you, but you

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Speaker 1: You know sometimes you forget you in public that you

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Speaker 2: I've done them several times. You know, my whole team

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Speaker 2: with athletes. Really, could y'all be tripping? Man? Man? You

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Speaker 2: know y'all aggressive? No, man, I didn't got into it

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan. I had the Ewings and the

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Speaker 2: Man, we are this Nigerian brother in the Didas store.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the Dadda store. That man hugged me. I said, brother,

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Speaker 2: You just have to bite me huge fan man, I said,

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Speaker 2: all you drank was a double shot of that double

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Speaker 2: I was. I started with doubles. You ain't have it

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Speaker 1: That's why you got to get put it on the rock.

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Speaker 2: It's a little cooler. It's a little cooler.

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Speaker 2: Cool I've been drinking hand the fish I used to drink. Henny.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about since I was. I think I started.

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Speaker 2: That was my first. Now, Saint Ies, I know I

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Speaker 2: drank a lot of things that that that Thunderbird with

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Speaker 2: of dollars twice? Mad Dog twenty twenty? Yes, and win

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Speaker 2: those were drinking. But that what else? I didn't know nobody.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know no other drinks. If you get that

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Speaker 2: then you started drinking. I remember they came out with

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Speaker 2: a forty, you know what I'm saying. Then my partner

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Speaker 2: Weller's and there JB. Weller, He'll put it. It's a

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Speaker 2: I used to be I used to be toe up,

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Speaker 2: I need that. I need that, I need that extra

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Speaker 2: like five seven? But I was what one thirty three? Nah,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I wasn't that when I went to prison.

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Speaker 2: I'll buy one fifteen, one twenty. Yeah, and you out

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Speaker 2: I said, what's going on? You tell me what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I said, some boys out there trying to jump on

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Speaker 2: You said, how many is it? I said, bout eight?

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Speaker 2: They scared because it's that many. I said, what they scared?

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Speaker 2: How many? How many do you ask? I said, just me?

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Speaker 2: there with me and said, he I ain't gonna let

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Speaker 2: See if you once you teed off on one of them.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, don't even run because I'm chasing you down. Now.

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Speaker 2: My thing is, if you got a bunch of people

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Speaker 2: with you, you're only talking because you got a bunch of people. Correct,

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Speaker 2: Just like with dudes with all these crews. If I

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Speaker 2: sure about myself and we're gonna we're gonna dance. I

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Speaker 2: don't care how many people you got with you, because

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Speaker 2: I don't have no no rules of that. It's no

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Speaker 2: were like, nah, I'm cold. I'm cold at that because

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Speaker 2: that's a hard way to go. So when I got

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm in your mouth so fast, like YO,

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Speaker 2: looked at it right there, got them hands bro, and

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Speaker 2: I'm and I'm like, I'm fifty one now and I'm

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Speaker 2: still that. You're still in the gym getting it in.

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Speaker 1: What makes people get more violent? The double shot of

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Speaker 2: Double Shots of Hen double shots a Hen that that

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, were you when you

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Speaker 2: I was on that hen pull of it had a

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Speaker 2: look Kim, and I had just read in this article

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Speaker 2: I said, i'mthing, I'll the Kim she like regular dudes.

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Speaker 2: He started laughing. He' say that. I get right over

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Speaker 1: I heard you like regular dudes. I'm your regular. I'm

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Speaker 1: up with. That that's all I had. It was the Hennessy.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't me.

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Speaker 2: I apologized, Kim, but I saw again on the time

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Speaker 2: join the cruise and up Mounse was like, Ali, don't

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Speaker 2: you start that. I said, I don't even drink no more.

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Speaker 2: I don't even drink that. I don't even drink that

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Speaker 2: I was. I was wild on that Hennessy. I was

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Speaker 1: You drink anything now or you don't drink it all. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you get away from the brine. It's just the brown

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Speaker 2: I stayed away from the brown. I like water. But

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Speaker 1: But your problem, See, your problem wasn't the double shot

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Speaker 1: It was two.

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Speaker 2: It was the Hennessy. Hennessy is a problem. It's no okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll say you name all the pleasant stories you ever

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Speaker 1: You hey, you want to come up your clothes and

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Speaker 1: fight now for sure? Why you gotta take your clothes out?

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Speaker 2: You know how we do. We gotta come up out

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Speaker 2: extra violet. Can't nobody talk to you being from a town?

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, man, look at Beyonce Travis Cott. I mean

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Speaker 2: I want to meet. Yeah, man, Andre Johnson, why you

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Speaker 1: I don't want to fight all the athletes, the ones

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Speaker 2: The ain't about the picture. It's about sometimes people mouth

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Speaker 2: get them in trouble. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: They because they look at you and look at you

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Speaker 2: That's that's a mistake. That's a mistake because the uppercut

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my whole thing into it. I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what they talking about it.

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Speaker 1: I was like Max sometimes, but that's my man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see how y'all rock me me. I

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Speaker 2: that live in Hugh Shack on me one thousand dollars?

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Speaker 2: What do you are you for? Man Shack first album? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He getting his haircut at Robert Young Salon on Richmond.

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Speaker 2: I started this club called Just Joking right across the street.

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Speaker 2: Shaq coming at a Deeze is coming there and he

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Speaker 2: talking about his album, and I said, your album ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna be good. He I bet you you get my album,

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Speaker 2: you gonna like every song on there. So I get

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Speaker 2: the album. Okay, how many songs you like? Two? Two?

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Speaker 2: How many songs on the album? Probably faulty, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I said, Shack, two songs? You lying? Two songs? I like?

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Speaker 2: That's it? Where's my money? Still, to this day, every

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Speaker 1: You just said you might have liked more than you

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Speaker 1: might have liked by six or seven of those song.

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Speaker 2: No, I did not like sixty seven of them songs.

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Speaker 2: You go back and listen to that first album. You

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Speaker 2: the crazy you're asking. You ain't even support it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: see you ain't. You ain't listen to it. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: And you know the song with the food snickings and

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Speaker 2: you heard him freestyle, that's not it? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now he good at freestyling. You don't think You don't

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Speaker 2: When you don't know rappers? Yeah, if you don't know rappers, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so he good at freestyler. So what is the answer

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Speaker 2: me this?

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Speaker 1: Why are so many people moving to Houston? I think

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Speaker 1: Drakes moved. Didn't Drake just buy a place in Houston?

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Speaker 1: Or he's moving to you?

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Speaker 2: He's not like us? There you go. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: First of all, since you brought that up, why do

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Speaker 2: Man? I was this is me and people who know

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Speaker 2: me know this. I really wasn't a Drake fan like

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Speaker 2: that because it always was it was always selling something

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Speaker 2: that I already heard. So I'm a real hip hop person.

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Speaker 2: I've been around as long as hip hop, So you

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Speaker 2: can't give me a rendition of somebody else's style. And

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Speaker 2: think I'm rocking with it. I'm just not. He sounded

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Speaker 2: like short on this one. He sounded like this person.

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Speaker 2: And then when you when you being from the age,

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Speaker 2: I don't honor you stealing anything from us, like chopped

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Speaker 2: and screwed, any of that, any any thing that we created,

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Speaker 2: and you don't pay homage to us from from getting it.

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Speaker 2: I got a problem with that. I've always had a

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Speaker 2: problem with that.

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Speaker 1: But what about all the people that he put on,

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Speaker 1: all the people that he helped about the mud who man,

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Speaker 1: come on, come on, don't do that now, don't do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who he helped you do though, No,

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Speaker 2: I really don't, because was it from Houston who did it?

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Speaker 2: He didn't help Okay, JK was u GK? Yeah, face

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about all the guys that went at him

425
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: this summer. I ain't talking about the Old Guard. No,

426
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: he didn't help the Old Guard. But I'm talking about

427
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys that he helped that went

428
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: on went at him this summer. Not just k Dot

429
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 1: because Kate he he helped brought kay Don onto it

430
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: with him, but he helped a lot of other people.

431
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: I don't know who all this man helped. That's I'm

432
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in my own world. I don't know who

433
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: all they helped. Give me, give me somebody. You don't

434
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: know who he helped. But you know what he stole.

435
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: You don't. I hit a style. I can hit a style.

436
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: It's on the radio. They pumped him on the radio.

437
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 2: And then when you say certain things, you know it, man, yo,

438
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: turn what got you to okay that aside?

439
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe it's because you say he biting people style

440
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: and you've heard that style before, But what is it

441
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: about Drake to rub you the wrong way?

442
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: Because it's more than the style that was just a

443
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: style I didn't have. I didn't have no other problems

444
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: with the with the man I know in Houston. Man,

445
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 2: it's some things that didn't happen in the age that

446
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: other people had problems with him. Sauce Sauce Walker had

447
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 2: problems with him. You know, I wasn't in it. But

448
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: the thing is, when you talk about our style, you know,

449
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: our style is very unique and we get overlooked. And

450
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: that's the other that's the other part of it. You

451
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: you can come and take something from a place that

452
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: gets overlooked anyway, if you don't put no shine on.

453
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: That's why I never left Houston. I wasn't going to

454
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: La or New York to do nothing. I'm aged town

455
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: and I didn't think that La or New York had

456
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: the pattern on who was funny or not? So why go?

457
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: Why go there and give them all this recognition? And

458
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 2: then the other thing is when I make it, Because

459
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: in my mind, I was gonna make it so La

460
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: and New York get all of the contribute everything I

461
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: put into it. So I spend my money there. I'm

462
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: gonna do everything. What about the people from my city

463
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: that's not gonna get a chance to see me because

464
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: i'd have moved away. I'm from here, right, you know

465
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So the people that's from where I'm

466
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: from got to see me in the grocery store, at

467
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: the bodega, you know what I'm saying, walking up the street,

468
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 2: so they can benefit from me. A Ali, how did

469
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: you do such and such? Oh man, this is how

470
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: I did it. I'm not going somewhere else where. Everybody's

471
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: trying to do that now. I'm agetown all day, all day.

472
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that that because we've seen

473
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of rappers, try to

474
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: go back their home and it doesn't end up well.

475
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: For why do you think that is? They didn't cultivate.

476
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: They didn't cultivate their area from the beginning. I'm not

477
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm not in this space where I've helped. Everybody that

478
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: ever asked me for help, I've helped, and some people

479
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: who didn't ask me our help, because sometimes might help

480
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: come when you don't know it. I'm in a room

481
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: and I bring you up. Hey, you can get this

482
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 2: person that. Don't tell them that I said it, Just

483
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: get them. The thing is, if you don't cultivate your neighborhood, now,

484
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: you can't go back. Man, I can go anywhere in Houston.

485
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: Who got a problem with me? Nobody? I live here,

486
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: I love here, this is this is my space. So

487
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: if you didn't do that, then know you can't come

488
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: back now. You can't come back unless you're coming back

489
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: with a purpose to love your city. I don't. I

490
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: don't think none of them. This is what's so unique

491
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 2: about Houston. We see. That's why I don't know a

492
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: person that I did I would like to meet because

493
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: I see all I see everybody, and we don't run

494
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: around with no entourages in all of this nonsense. I'm

495
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: in a safe space in my city. I don't have

496
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: no problems in my city. If you and your city

497
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: you got problems, what did you do?

498
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: But you know, everybody's not happy for your successfully, everybody's not.

499
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: But when you when you have so many people that are,

500
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: it's probably people that it's probably people that hate me.

501
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: But it's so. But you gonna say something that somebody

502
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: else gonna say, for what right they gonna question your hate?

503
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: If you ain't got nobody questioning it your hate, there's

504
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: something wrong. I don't have to always defend myself. The

505
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: city will defend me, right, you know what I'm saying.

506
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: The people that know me, it's people in the city.

507
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: When I I said something about a situation I don't

508
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 2: even know him, and people like you don't know him, Oh,

509
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: you must be young. You must be young. You gotta

510
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: be And then the young people that know me like,

511
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: wait a minute, you do know that he did such

512
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: and such and such and such. I'm a charitable person

513
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: and I don't need to. I don't need a camera

514
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 2: to record it. Right. If I if I give some charity,

515
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: I don't need to post it and none of that.

516
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: And me and Marcus Marcus d Wiler is my partner

517
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: that we was together one time he said, hey, man,

518
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: you know what you just did. People have a camera

519
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: and they need to point and I said, God recorded it.

520
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't need That's how I am. I like

521
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: to I like to do and not. Because the question

522
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: that you have to ask yourself is this, if you

523
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: did something that was special and no one told you

524
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: it was special, would you still feel special?

525
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? There you go, that's your answer. Yeah, because just

526
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: like this Domino Effect one, two, three, and four, the

527
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: first ever special, I'm the first comic ever in the

528
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: world to do a special that's all connected, a four

529
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: part series special. People don't recognize it, but it's still.

530
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: Special, right, you believe it special. That's all that matters.

531
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: That's the and that's what matters to me.

532
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: The Ghetto Boys came out with a song mind Playing

533
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Tricks on Yeah, why why do you relate to that song?

534
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: Man? This is just I I was friends with Boyshwick,

535
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm friends with wille D now for I just got

536
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: really just got out the phone with him, friends with

537
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: Brad So mind playing Tricks on you. First of all,

538
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: the beat was crazy, yeah, and that what he was rapped,

539
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: what they were rapping about. This is a lot of

540
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: times people's life. You know what I'm saying. You can

541
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: think that you something and you and you not. Your

542
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: mind is actually playing tricks on you. So to stay

543
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: grounded in reality is what this song was really about,

544
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, and I that pulling

545
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: it man. That man said, I pulled in the pipe

546
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: pies and belled out quick. If it's going down, let's

547
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: get it over with. And that's a that's a that's

548
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: a slogan for me. If it's going down, let's get

549
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: it over with. I've never I wish I was scared

550
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: of somebody shing. I really wish I was. So I

551
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: can I can understand that you always have that mentality. Yeah, yep.

552
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: I've been a small man in stature like you said so,

553
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: But you know something, I was, first of all shanned.

554
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: I was big. I've been five to seventh since like

555
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: seventh eighth grade before that, like about some let me

556
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: see sixth grade, and I can't. I was a center.

557
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: I start off playing center. I was the five. That's

558
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: where it would come basketball. Yeah, I was the five

559
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: and over one summer. It's like everybody went to sleep.

560
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: And then I was a one I know well. My

561
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: first position playing football inside linebacker, right inside linebacker, and

562
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: I was vicious. I'm not head off because I don't

563
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: have no regard for my own self. So I'm out

564
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: there inside linebacker. Then I went from that to receiver,

565
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: and then I went to cornerback. You know what I'm saying.

566
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: And it was all you couldn't catch that way you

567
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: went to the cornerback. No, I wanted to hit people. I

568
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: can still catch now saying. The difference is between like

569
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: now you talk about today's supposed to be thug and

570
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: rappers and all this supposed to be in the streets, right,

571
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: they're not athletic, So I don't believe them. Because when

572
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: you saw Drake hooping, Drake be hooping, I got who

573
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: Drake shut up? Let him rain in the gym. You

574
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: saw it. You saw it too, see it.

575
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: Breathy be dropping, Davy, all the boy be hooping, hooping.

576
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: Stop change hooping, stop me, Shad stop it? Oh man

577
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: Z dickon hoop, Brian mcknike and who these boys can't

578
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: even catch they might not can catch. They might not

579
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: can catch man. They might not catch the football, but

580
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: they can't get the baseball a tennis ball. I've seen

581
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: Drake put it in the basket. Man, you did too, No,

582
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: I did not. I did not see this man putting.

583
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: Probably beat you one on one. I doubt it. I don't.

584
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: You're not You're not gonna skip. You're not gonna skipp me.

585
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: See what you know you're trying to do? What skip this?

586
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: I just saying, I've seen that man. Who I've seen

587
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: some of these others. I've seen Breezy Hoo they I've

588
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: seen h J.

589
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: Cole.

590
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: Give you that work, give you that work. You think

591
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 4: Jay's gonna give me that work? Work work I would put.

592
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: I would put Jacob in the post.

593
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: Throw it to me. How you gonna be in the post?

594
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm still a big man. Bud Web couldn't post up.

595
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: That's fun.

596
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: Chris Paulkin's post up Chris paul six. But what that

597
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: means ain't no five to seven post players. That's what

598
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: that means.

599
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: Man, that man, man that I put that man on

600
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: my hip, put that work on left l right hand.

601
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: You fine get these boys, You finla get these boys

602
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: in trouble. So the thing is this why they don't

603
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: do the celebrity basketball games like they used to in

604
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: All Star. They know they just had it. Man, did

605
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: you did you see bb D? Did you see these boys? Who?

606
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: These boys was nasty? Brian mcdaddy getting boys at work

607
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: right now. I'm talking about real hoopless that he should

608
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: have win. The NBA loved to have Brian Madnight out

609
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: there master peaking hoop. Yes, the new boys can't have.

610
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: You haven't seen him in a in a in a

611
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: softball game. They can't can't catch you trying to get

612
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: these new boys, Travis cot The fathers, they can't catch

613
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: they the father ain't do nothing with them.

614
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: Oh lord, they can't catch can I You let me

615
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: ask you this, let me transition to this. You and

616
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: PMC almost get into it. What what was that about?

617
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: He was talking crazy with my sister. He was young.

618
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: He was a young boy. He was talking crazy with

619
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: my sister, and your sister told yeah, and I saw it.

620
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm in I'm I'm in the club at the time.

621
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: At the time, you gotta think I'm I'm already a

622
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: doe boy. I'm in the streets already. This man is

623
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: a rapper, young boy, you know what I'm saying. So

624
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm already mad, aggressive. I'm already in streets. See, I've

625
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: been in the streets since eighty eight. Damn yeah, since

626
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: a eight forty year. I'm not a I'm not a

627
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 2: I'm not one of these guys. I usually listen to this,

628
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: these guys when I when I came home nineteen ninety seven,

629
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: I'm already. I've been in the streets since eighty eight,

630
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: eighty eight. I'm already doing things right and stuff I

631
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: won't say on camera. I'm already doing things, and I'm

632
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: a problem. So when they rappen that ain't got nothing

633
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: to do with what I'm actually doing. Okay, what I'm

634
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: actually doing, you real in the streets. They talking about

635
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: the streets. I'm already. I'm already in the streets, you

636
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So like now, when I listen

637
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: to people, I'll be like, man, that's what y'all y'all really,

638
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: but y'all cool? Now? He dead? Oh about this? Right?

639
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: I forgot. I forget. We went to the same ball

640
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: and all that big shot out to Nick. We went

641
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: to the same barber made peace with that. I made

642
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: peace for mostly everybody mostly.

643
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. We don't get to that a little later.

644
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: So help me understand. You went to the You went

645
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: to the Skrill Club.

646
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: With Moses Malone man Big Mo Big. He gone to

647
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: yes Man, how did you? How did you meet Moeso?

648
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: Anthony Covin Okay, first person to ever invest in my career.

649
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: He bought me some headshots. I started doing stand up.

650
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: He said, hey, man, you're gonna need some head shots.

651
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: And he sent me to this guy named Montaque, who

652
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: was the same person that was shooting Destiny Child. And

653
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: I knew that them pictures was expensive because the man

654
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: is named Montaque. Anybody named Montacue is definitely charged. His

655
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 2: name is Marty, and he was He had some circle

656
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: glasses and I say, yeah, this is this is this

657
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: is high quality, great head shots. Him and Moses very

658
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: very close friends. I learned a lot hanging out with

659
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: Moses and Anthony Kobt Senior. Anthony Koba Junr. Is my accountant,

660
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: my my close friend. We got we were on a

661
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: food truck park together forty five oh one. Our meet

662
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: his when his father passed. Before his father passed, he

663
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: told he told me and Anthony to always stick together,

664
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: so I mean, y'all always stick together. So we do.

665
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: But man Moses would want to go to the strip

666
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: club to have lunch. The spot called Treasures. He want

667
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: to have lunch, so we go. I go with him, me,

668
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: Anthony Senior. We in this strip club and I'm thinking

669
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: that they going for the strippers. This buffet in this

670
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: strip club was amazing.

671
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, people people see when you tell people that, people

672
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: think you lying. I mean the five were nice too, though,

673
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: but the food is really good. Magic feed that you

674
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: have been to magic I've been to Magic City.

675
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: The food. Tell me I didn't eat no food in

676
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: Magic City? Why are you? Why are you that in?

677
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 2: Because so I was with some other people. I didn't

678
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: eat no food in Maddic City. I was like, I'm

679
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 2: not a strip what's crazy is I'm not a strip

680
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: club guy. I ain't either because I don't want the

681
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: stripers dancing on me. I just I can't. I just

682
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: don't want you be dancing on you. What's wrong with you?

683
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: They ain't got where's the shower at? They've been in

684
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: there all day? Where's the shower? Don't don't be wipe,

685
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: don't be wet wiping. Nothing is sliding on me, man,

686
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: I just think, oh my my clothes close out something.

687
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: I don't want you on me like that. Man, they

688
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: go down and freshen up after the press. Enough say

689
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: what they got showers down there? Ain't no shot what

690
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: a shower was at.

691
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna call Madge if I get off here

692
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: and asking, Yeah, ain't no showers in them. Spotty bird

693
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: going down there changing it into them same bathing and

694
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: suit just whe okay, a little bird bad, little bird

695
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: man shining. Now. I don't no bird bath broad on me.

696
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: You do it just in there, bird bathroom just maybe

697
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: just vagina, just mat all that bacterial.

698
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: Vagin notes all on me.

699
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't want all that going on on me. Man.

700
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: I throw my money from a distance. I got baby,

701
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: I pitched my money to him. I still I will

702
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: let me tell you that what I let me tell me,

703
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 2: Hey be live. I was in V live one time. Thing.

704
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm in that. That's I love the making it right,

705
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: when making it rain came out because you can throw

706
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: your one up and there, yeah, and that's it. You

707
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: ain't You don't need nobody dancing on you, even this girl. Man,

708
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 2: god risk his soul man big Thow, big Thoe and

709
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: Eric I would come to the spot, and they know

710
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: they know how to give bad, they know how to

711
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: give me. It was a girl named tam at the Tiger.

712
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: Oh she wold I'm talking about I And the first

713
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: time I didn't even know she was no dancer. I

714
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: saw her in the Roxy. She's just in the Roxy

715
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: looking great. I was. I was center Murlow because she

716
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: drank Murlow Man. I found that that girl was a dance.

717
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: I went down to that club find that she can be.

718
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm but still I don't want nobody to dance on me.

719
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: I can. I didn't let Tampa dance on Nah. I

720
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: throw that money she on that stage. I throw that

721
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: money off there. But I just died. Don't dance on me.

722
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like it. Shaa, you gave me

723
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: the creeps. Now, I don't. I don't like nobody dancing

724
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: on me. If you ain't got no bath you Sometimes

725
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: I see right now. Sometimes you came down to you.

726
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: You came downs. I remember he was in Houston, you

727
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And then and they got you.

728
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: They got you because I heard you and and Ocho

729
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: Sinko because you know he he gets it in so

730
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: y'all in Houston. Yeah, and you in that strip club.

731
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: I didn't go to strip club. I didn't. I almost

732
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: moved to Houston.

733
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: The best decision I made, one of the best one

734
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: in the last five years. One of the best decisions

735
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: that I made. Sometimes the best decision is the one

736
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: that you don't make.

737
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna leave, right, says that ain't Styn It's different animal,

738
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: It's full of you don't need to go no strip club.

739
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: Get to see one. That galleria. I'm with you when

740
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: you're right. Oh that gallow, that gallows. I'm with you

741
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: all the right. When you right. I'm talking about you. Hey,

742
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: if you come on our meter, just own just this

743
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: stand out there, this stand out there on our meter.

744
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: They out there. I'm talking about a sun dress. A

745
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: sun dress, no draws on. It's crazy.

746
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Let's talk about I heard trying to move to Houston.

747
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: You in the Tupac or when he was with Digital Underground.

748
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I was already in the streets, already in

749
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: the streets, money b on that elevator, just drunk, were

750
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: chopping it up. We had a it's a rap convention,

751
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: rap convention, and they come down. Danna Dane was on

752
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: big shadow of Dan Dane. Danny Dane. It's the escalator

753
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: wasn't working in the in the hotels. Everybody had to

754
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: catch the elevator, and Dan Dane was sitting on the

755
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: broken escalator. I get on the elevator. Money b is

756
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 2: on that. We just finish chopping up with him. He drunk.

757
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: I see who now tupa. I didn't know that was

758
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: with him. I know that was him, dancer, you know,

759
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: with digital und digit on the ground, But it wasn't this.

760
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't that thugs ona And how would it be

761
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: a thud persona to somebody who's already thugging in the streets,

762
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 2: Like I'm already a wild man. So I didn't see

763
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: him like everybody else saw him. Even when I was

764
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: locked up. I used to be like, man, that kid

765
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: wasn't no thug like that.

766
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 1: So when you see having been in the streets, live

767
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: that life, breathe that life, when you hear guys talk

768
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: about that life, You're like, man, y'all need to stop this.

769
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: They really do? They really do. I'm talking about because

770
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: it is like even with these young boys. Now, it's shameful.

771
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: It's shameful. And my problem is there. I never lied

772
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: on my mama like that. Hey, that's all we know.

773
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: Stop it nowg So your mama never said nothing. Didn't

774
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: nobody ever say nothing good to you. So everybody's just

775
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: doing bad. Every every black person just doing bad. Everybody's

776
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: from the hood. Everybody wasn't nobody mama making it, nobody,

777
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: daddy was making it. No, everybody just everybody just destitute. Man,

778
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: stop it, man, I tell people in the special I

779
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: never had to be in the streets. My MoMA had

780
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: a job. I just couldn't handle being outside, not being

781
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: in the atmosphere. My daddy, my dad had a job.

782
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: When I moved to my dad, my dad had a job.

783
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: My dad was fly tailor, made suits all that. My

784
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: dad was selling powder cocaine only because he had a

785
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: carrier service downtown and it was lawyers that he was

786
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: carrying the stuff for getting document signed and they was

787
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: on powder. So my daddy just just right into it,

788
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So him, Ivory James James,

789
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: a boxer. What I'm saying, Ivory has one side of

790
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 2: downtown as to carry serve. My dad had the other

791
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: side of downtown. They potting us. My dad was selling

792
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: these pills. Everybody was popping pills back then, what I'm saying,

793
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: So when he started selling powder, he didn't want me

794
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: to sell powder, even though I had to open the

795
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 2: door and sell the pills for him when he was gone.

796
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: But he was a Wow. But my dad didn't want

797
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: me in the streets. My mama didn't want me in

798
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: the streets. I heard all that from my mama. Just

799
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: now be finding out stuff that I was that I

800
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: did back then. Wow. But so I don't give this

801
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: story of oh we was destiny, we do it. I

802
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: had to sell job. I ain't had to do ship.

803
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: But be a kid, right, which people find hard to

804
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: do nowadays. Like being a kid. Everybody won't grow up

805
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: fast and it makes no it makes no sense to me.

806
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: And then and then lie on your family like there's

807
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: no honorable people in your family. Man, cut it out, Man,

808
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 2: cut it out. It's crazy.

809
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: So you you mentioned that your mom had a job,

810
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: your dad had a job. You really didn't, So what

811
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: type of upbringing? So give me give us some synopsis.

812
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: When you were a kid growing up in Houston, you

813
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: were in the projects. If I'm not mistaken, what did

814
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: you want to be when you grew up?

815
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: A chef? A navy seal? Okay, that will happened. I

816
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: started cooking the wrong thing. I'm looking the wrong thing.

817
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: You want marcare up and collar greens and anything like that.

818
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: Hey, man, I'm a chemist. That I'm cooking the wrong thing. Man,

819
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: So that and that's stuff, and that's theff. Just being

820
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: in the streets, man, I was. I didn't have to

821
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: be out there yet real talking. I just didn't. And

822
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: my mom, my mom, that that that really was embarrassing

823
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: for my mama. You know. I apologize for my mom

824
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: too all the time, for being dishonorable to what she

825
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: was about, you know. And I think that in families nowadays,

826
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: it's no honor true. They don't want to honor the mother,

827
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 2: honor the father, honor the family. You want you want

828
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: to put mud on your people's name. And that's and

829
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: that's that's wrong. But a lot of guys don't see

830
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: it like that. They think that street cred what is it?

831
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: What does it get you? You can't buy nothing with it,

832
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: can't buy nothing with it. You you were more embarrassing

833
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: to society, to your family, to your children. What I'm

834
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: saying to your grandma you it's it's it's really shameful, man,

835
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: that how these people. And I'm not I'm not I'm

836
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: not perfect in this, but I'm not gonna And it

837
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: would break my heart, man, for my kids to be

838
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: out in the streets acting like I didn't teach them

839
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: what was right and I didn't do do anything for

840
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: I didn't do anything for him that And it would

841
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: break my heart to see my friends children like that.

842
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: You know, I got them friends that their their their

843
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: kids want to be in the streets, and you know,

844
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: I go try to talk to them. Man, why do

845
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: you want to be out here? What you what you missing? What?

846
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: Why are you trying to hurt your father? Why are

847
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: you trying to hurt your mother? Like? What is the

848
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: what is the real core of it? Are you? You

849
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: have to be a part of what everybody else is doing,

850
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: and everybody else is not really doing it. I see

851
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: these young kids out here that masquerading to be thug life,

852
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: but this is what the music sells them, right, So

853
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: I have a problem with that as well. What you

854
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: what you say? You're selling something that you not so

855
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: when you run into people, that's that they take offense

856
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: to it. I'm offended because you bro, gone on, man,

857
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: before you make me show you the difference between me

858
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: and you, because Bro, you ain't really been tested, you

859
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 2: ain't been in nothing. I'm telling you exactly what's going

860
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: to happen. Bro, and you and I'm not And I'm

861
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what

862
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: I've already done. So it's a different type of intensity

863
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: when it with man, I do my best, I do

864
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: my best sharing and I cry a lot. Man, I

865
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: cry a lot man for people?

866
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: Is there is there is there a mentality that you

867
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: must adopted in order to be in the streets like

868
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: you were in the streets.

869
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and it's brutal. It's brutal. You can't.

870
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: You got to be heartless. You got to be ruth

871
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 2: you gotta be you got to be shanning. You looking

872
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: at a man that will kill you with your baby

873
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: and your hand. Hey, man, put your kid down. Bro,

874
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this in front of your kid.

875
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: And now the intensity with me, Man, gone on, Bro,

876
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: before before something happened to you for real, for real,

877
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to play with you because you don't

878
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: really have enough people for real, because you're dealing with

879
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: somebody that you don't really understand. I was nineteen years

880
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: old by myself in prison, and it won't be one

881
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: person ever to talk out a turn about what happened

882
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: in there with me because I got a mean, mean,

883
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: mean streaking me. Hey, man, you better go on before

884
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 2: I put your ass in the grave. Boy, I don't

885
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: need nobody. I don't need nobody. I ain't gotta go

886
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 2: get nothing. I'm a quit right now with my bare

887
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: fucking hands. Do you take that in there into those

888
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: walls like that in the streets. Wow, When that man

889
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: hit me, When this man hit me in my face,

890
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm fifteen years old. This man six four sixty five,

891
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: he stole on you, Yeah, from behind, because that knew

892
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: he had to get busted down. I'm not playing no

893
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: games with nobody. This is the This is the thing.

894
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: My mom she dated a man that was brutal to me.

895
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, he was brutal, and I said, in

896
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: my life, I will never in life let somebody beat

897
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: on me again. I'm seven, man. The type of violence

898
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: that that that he I want you, I would inflict

899
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: on a person trying to do that ship that he

900
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: did to me. When I was seven, did you tell

901
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: your father? Yeah, my daddy came over, got into it

902
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: with him. They pushed my daddy out the house right

903
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: and my daddy is in the window. He say, oh,

904
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: un locked the door. I unlocked the door. Let him back.

905
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: You've been on that for a minute. I unlocked that door.

906
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: Let that man back in. My daddy right back on

907
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: his ass. But that on even made it worse for me,

908
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: right because he gonna leave and you still got to

909
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: be there. Yep.

910
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: So how old were you when you decided to say,

911
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: you know what, you ain't gonna put your hands on

912
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: me no more. You're not gonna talk out of place.

913
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: Did he leave or did you leave my mom?

914
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: My mom left him, But it was a it was

915
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: a thing by the time I was nine. Man, you're

916
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: not doing nothing to my mama, not doing nothing to me,

917
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: not doing nothing to my sister. I remember this man

918
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: living in these apartments, and it's my mom getting closed

919
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: out the dryer, the bottom dryer, and this man left

920
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: the top drive open, and my mom came up and

921
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 2: my mama only four eleven came up and hit her head.

922
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: She came in, She rubbed her head. I said, what happened?

923
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 2: His stupid ass man left the dry open? I said,

924
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: did the apologize? Timehout? Now it's it's these little bats

925
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 2: that they call astroworld bata. We used to get him from

926
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: this astworld, the little littleville sluggers. Yeah, I got that

927
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: bat and I put it in my back and I

928
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: went down and said, hey boom. Did the lady just

929
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: bump her head in? He said? I said, did you?

930
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: Did you apologize because you left the draft? He said no?

931
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: So how old are you at this time? Eleven? Okay? Man?

932
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: It was a it was a bad scene in that

933
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: in that at Lune bad scene. A grown man didn't matter.

934
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: Why am I? If my mother wouldn't have came down there,

935
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: I would have killed him. My MAMMNNA tell anybody if

936
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: you get into it with him, you better hope that

937
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: he talking, because if he's not talking, he's thinking of

938
00:52:54,760 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: a way to hurt you bad. And I'm not a person.

939
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get away with nothing. I'm I'm

940
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: gonna do what I'm going to do, and that is it.

941
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: Just like when I was locked up. That offers a Mitchell, Bro,

942
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: you trying to man, you're stripping me down in the

943
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: vessel of area. You tripping, bro, you're tripping. So what

944
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: so when you say stripping you down? Yeah, making me

945
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: get naked in the vestal area just because he just

946
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: because he felt like he had the power to do it.

947
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: And I told him, I say, met your man, this

948
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be good for you. Bro, now I'm telling you.

949
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: And it happened, and I changed, like I used to

950
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: be very jovial, and everybody know I was like this

951
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 2: every day like four months. I was like, it's gonna

952
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: come up. I'm gonna get an opportunity to show this

953
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: man why he shouldn't have did that. And when I did,

954
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: I was gonna kill that man. And I was gonna

955
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: go back to my cell. I wasn't I'm in prison

956
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: while I'm ago, I'm not gonna escape. I'm gonna kill

957
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: that man. I'm gonna go back to my cell. They

958
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: gonna come get me, I'm gonna pack my stuff up,

959
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: they gonna come give me, and I'm gonna be here

960
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: for disrespect. Come on, bro, if it wasn't for Alam

961
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: and the musta for I'd have killed that man. Name

962
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: was Mitchell, not not not playing at all. And I

963
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: and I know people like, oh he act like he tough. No,

964
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: I don't, No, I don't. I'm I'm very jovial, I'm

965
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: very peaceful. You got to push me to something, and

966
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm man, I and I'm I pause

967
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: up most of the time. Hey brother, But if you

968
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: keep going, you trying to take it there, you trying

969
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: to take it there, and I'm probably gonna take it there,

970
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna cry for you and and and and

971
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: wish the best for your family and all the rest

972
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: of that. Oh but man, it's it's bad. It's bad.

973
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: It's bad because I'm not I've never started to fight

974
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: in my whole life. I finished a lot of them,

975
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: I've never started one. I'm more offended that you bothering

976
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: me than anything, because this is what people do. They

977
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: not coming to pick on you, why not, my sides.

978
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: But they look at you. They think you an easy victory,

979
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: now say they so? They basically they underestimate you because.

980
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: They looking at it. Why even bother me? Because they

981
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: feel that's easy way? Dolly? Why you think why not

982
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 2: bother you.

983
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: They say what they want, You ain't what they want,

984
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: but I'm what they want because you know how animals are.

985
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: When animals hunt, they find the old or the weak.

986
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so watch this. What would you what would what

987
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 2: would anybody rather deal with a lion or a hunted badger? Well, see,

988
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: people don't know about that honey badger, and that's their problem. This.

989
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 2: See now, when you when you mess around and find

990
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: out about it to lay a lion, don't want it

991
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: with a honey badger at all. No, And I'm a

992
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: honted badger. I'm low to the ground, and I'm saying

993
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: I can fight backwards. I'm saying that my Steevens raised

994
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: a short you know what I'm saying, like, why is

995
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: you playing with me? They don't know they need to

996
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 2: find out about a hunting badger.

997
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this thing with your parents got

998
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: divorced when you were very young. Did that impact you

999
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: and and and and make you or or do what

1000
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: you because what you became because you say you were

1001
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: in the street and you didn't have to be you

1002
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: chose to be in the streets. And you you you've

1003
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: told me right here that look my dad would have

1004
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: a job, my mom have a job. I didn't have

1005
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: to do anything that I did. But did they they're divorced,

1006
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: did that play a role.

1007
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: That major man? When you are father, it's very important

1008
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: that you stick close. Even if you detach, you still

1009
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: gotta be in the kids life. You gotta be there

1010
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: because it's a certain amount of protection comes with that.

1011
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: People pray on the week and when they see something

1012
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: weak or they can figure out how to get in there.

1013
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: But when your father is there, my daddy, I don't

1014
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 2: even really know if my daddy could fight, but because

1015
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: he never would be in a fight because he was Pete.

1016
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: Don't mess with me. I know karate. I don't know

1017
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: why he would always say that. I've never seen my

1018
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: daddy knew no karate. He probably didn't know it. But

1019
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 2: he's sixty three, right, My dad is six three j Black,

1020
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: my uncle Mac. I'm talking about fight from the go

1021
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: my dad. If he would have stuck closer to us,

1022
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: then the abuse would have never happened. Right, Okay, what

1023
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if you make sure that you taking care

1024
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: of things, then my mom don't have to sacrifice like

1025
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: she did to try to take care of us. Now

1026
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: we're being left at home by ourself, right. You know,

1027
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: it's all these things. If you facilitate certain things, then

1028
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: you cut out a certain amount of nonsense. Predators know

1029
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: when no father's around. Man, you can't really come to

1030
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: my kids because they like, hey, man, it is a

1031
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: father very close and I'm gonna be a problem. Like

1032
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: I questioned everything, and I'm like, yoh, man, what's going

1033
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: on with you? I pop up everywhere. I'm always I'm

1034
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: always showing up. So if you that type of father,

1035
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: then predators stay away. Like this this man was talking about.

1036
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: He said how he chose his victims.

1037
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: I saw that. He said, he didn't you in the

1038
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: Black White LA team. That didn't matter, he said, he

1039
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: looked at the father.

1040
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: If the father wasn't a threat. But I knew that

1041
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: from being inside. Talking to these type of predators makes

1042
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: me very skeptical in the world. I don't I don't

1043
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: want you to do certain things. I want you to

1044
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: be certain places. I'm always on guard because I know

1045
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: the actual predators. I know how they think, I know

1046
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: how they move. And what's crazy? Do you know those

1047
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: type of predators get protected inside because of real.

1048
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: Oh they standing no chance, because we're gonna kill them.

1049
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about what I heard. They keep

1050
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: them away from us, and I used to it used

1051
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: to burn me up, though I come, how y'all know

1052
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: them people come in?

1053
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: Because I've always wondered, how y'all know this guy was

1054
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: a he killed the old person, he killed the elderly,

1055
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: or he even molested a child and he killed How

1056
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: y'all know about that?

1057
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: Y'all getting new y'all who killed? Y'all off about that? Ali?

1058
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: I was a fine safety clerk. I know what's going on.

1059
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm in the front office, right, okay.

1060
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: Is that people know what your jacket is when you

1061
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: come in there, they know what you're doing. And once

1062
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 2: we find out or hell to pay, Oh it's hell

1063
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 2: to pay. But they keep them in protective custody.

1064
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: Why they get protected? Nod do that? You want to

1065
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: do all that to the little kid that can't protect themselves?

1066
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 2: They got to go ahead. That's that's where you should

1067
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: do it. That's the cray the craziest thing. I'm a

1068
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm a street pharmaceut correct, which is very frown upon it.

1069
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: I coming there, non violent, right, you put me with

1070
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: everybody else.

1071
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: The most violent of the violent.

1072
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: But then this dude who then serial rape, serial molest

1073
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: you put him down there in protective custody with other

1074
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: serial molesss and rapist. Why don't you throw him to

1075
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: the wolves like everybody else, because you know we're gonna

1076
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: pull them apart. Don't pull them apart. The justice will

1077
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: be served if you kill a baby, Oh, the justice

1078
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: will be served. We're gonna get you in the county.

1079
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: So we already know what you came in there in

1080
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: the county, in the county jail. We're trying to bust

1081
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: you to the white meat in the county jail. I remember,

1082
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: I'm on ten B three and on the other end

1083
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: it's ten C two. We can see they we can

1084
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: see they block and it's a guy that had killed

1085
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: a baby, baby girl, threw in the braves by you.

1086
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: He get arrested because we see on the news get arrested.

1087
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: Everybody hoping that he gets sent to the tenth floor.

1088
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: Thirteen oh one, Franklin, that man gets sent to the

1089
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: tenth floor. We're hoping that he come to ourselves so bad.

1090
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: They send him down the ten C two and the

1091
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: sheriffs put him in there and closed the main salad

1092
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: door where you can hear in the hallway he already

1093
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: behind the ball. They closed the salad door, and it

1094
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:49,919
Speaker 2: was like on cartoons. You saw him run this way,

1095
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: and you saw a pack go that way. Then you

1096
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: saw a run this way, and you saw pack, saw

1097
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: the pack go that way, and then the next thing

1098
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: we know, it's a cold blue it's over. They coming

1099
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: to get him on a stretcher. They didn't slam this

1100
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: bone in his neck so many times trying to kill him,

1101
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: because you killed the baby.

1102
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: So the elderly and the kids and women and women

1103
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: see I think sometimes that these it's funny. It's funny

1104
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: that you guys have rules and regulations in there, but

1105
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: you don't follow by the rules and regulation out here.

1106
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 2: Hey, there you go, there you go breaking down. You

1107
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: so listen when you're trying to get the money, you're

1108
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: trying to get bread. So you you're not messing with

1109
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: women and children right long.

1110
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: You don't harm the women, children, the elderly.

1111
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: You good. You may do what you're doing. You know

1112
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, do it. Do it fair business, because

1113
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: I come from an era of fair business. You know

1114
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So if you're doing dirty business, then

1115
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with you. But I come from fair business.

1116
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: And this no, we didn't even back then, we didn't

1117
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: even do you understand you You asked, You asked Gilly

1118
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: a question about athletes getting protected. It wasn't just athletes.

1119
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: It was anybody that had potential that we saw. Man.

1120
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: We was honorable, It was honored amongst these. Man the

1121
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: dude named Phil we out in the streets selling dough.

1122
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: We ain't letting Field sell no dope. Field play the saxophone. Man,

1123
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: you can't sell no dope Field. What you you? The

1124
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 2: next you? The next one? We will see this boy?

1125
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 2: Hey Phil, say Phil, Hey, Man, come on here with

1126
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: your little harmonica. May just call it this instrument. All

1127
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: the wrong names may come on. Man, the savages, you know,

1128
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: they unruled. May play something to sue these savages. And

1129
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: he plays something and what begging mall? Man gone, my boy,

1130
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: Michael Van He tried to sell dope, and I say, boy,

1131
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: cut it out. I took him to the mall. I said,

1132
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: get whatever you want, and then sent them to school. Bro,

1133
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: you ain't this ain't for you out here. We're not well.

1134
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: We had a lot of honor about ourselves. Then what happened?

1135
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: These same people wanted to be in the streets. They

1136
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: wanted to be in the streets. See everybody it. Man,

1137
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: it's like my friends. Now, I don't have no thug friends.

1138
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: All these boys as fathers, they're not in the not

1139
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: in the streets. I don't hang with no I don't

1140
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: hang with no thugs. Like, for what, it's not even cool.

1141
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: It's not even cool to be under constant stress. Man,

1142
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: that's not man always getting into it. You can't y'all

1143
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: can't ever go out and have a good time because

1144
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 2: you always into it, you always beefing. It's like the

1145
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: reason why a lot of these dudes are doing this

1146
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: is because it's really not no street consequences. It's a

1147
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: safe space. If you talking, you talking all out loud, man,

1148
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 2: you ain't trying to do nothing. You trying to do nothing.

1149
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: But I just don't get I just don't get the

1150
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: atmosphere of everybody want to be a thug. Everybody everybody

1151
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: with you, you playing, you playing football, right, how many

1152
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 2: thugs was out there on the football field when you

1153
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: was playing. No. No, Now you got people that come

1154
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: to leagues and they uncoachable because they they they want

1155
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: to have this this street persona right, why when you

1156
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: play football and.

1157
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: Are you making all this money you want to go

1158
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: hang out with the dudes on the.

1159
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: Why when you play basketball? I don't know why when

1160
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: you play baseball? Because the others are not doing that?

1161
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 2: Right you? What's the boy that went to jail play

1162
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: for the Patriots? Her name is it? Why? Bro? What

1163
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: inadequacy are you trying to cover up by doing that?

1164
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: Got to show the homies, I'm real, keeping it real.

1165
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: But that's the great thing. Who thinks that that's keeping

1166
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 2: it real? Some more people that ain't got no sense. Yeah,

1167
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: that's not in your situation. That's not even in your situation.

1168
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, let me let my partner have eighty million dollars. Okay,

1169
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: So Marcus d Wilett, right, this is what he said

1170
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: to me. This type of this is the type of

1171
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: partners that I have. I'm I'm talking about doing something

1172
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: reckless and this man say, hey, just you just got

1173
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: presented with a with a plaque at all your cities

1174
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: on there, your gross earnings, you know, and it's that's

1175
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: something really to be alive and really be proud of. Now,

1176
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 2: go out there and throw all this shit the way

1177
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: if you want to and walk in his house, get

1178
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: off of my y'a off, I call the police on

1179
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 2: your asd here man, I got my friends are not

1180
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: letting me throw my career away for nothing if you

1181
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: And the other thing is, most of these people now

1182
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: under ford and I got a real I got a

1183
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 2: real theory about me, and that's under fifty in that

1184
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 2: in that in that era behind me, they have a

1185
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,839
Speaker 2: lot of embarrassment in them. They can be embarrassed easily.

1186
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: So when you can be embarrass you in turn realize things.

1187
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: And that's why most of these guys have these mental

1188
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: health here to go, oh, my mental health because you

1189
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: do not have friends. This is why you have a

1190
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 2: mental health condition, because you do not have friends. For

1191
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: checks and balances, you for fifty six yep, okay, do

1192
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: you and your friends talk? Yeah about everything. You're not embarrassed.

1193
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: You're not embarrassed my my whole era. Man, whether you

1194
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: had bro I remember I called this ain't birketball. Let

1195
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 2: me just clear this up. It wasn't from me doing nothing.

1196
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: Somebody had step in my bed with somebody that was

1197
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: that was unclean and I don't know. I get back

1198
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 2: in my bed. I'm early in the morning, cause that's

1199
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: when you find out you got crafts. Early in the morning.

1200
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 2: It's never in the daytime, it's always earlier. So I'm

1201
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: sitting on the komod and man, what a look crab thing. Man,

1202
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is. Man, I'm seventeen. I

1203
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 2: don't I've never man, I got bugs on me. I

1204
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: go right and knock on the door. My partner is

1205
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: in there, and I can't say no because he in

1206
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: there with my girlfriend's friends. Okay, I'm not going on

1207
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: the dog. I said, gee, come here. He said what

1208
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 2: I said, Look here, man, what's that? I said, I

1209
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 2: don't know? And he looked because he wore glass and

1210
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 2: put his glass on. He said, we got a cry up.

1211
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: I got something for that. I told him. I have

1212
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: told him. I'm not keeping the bugs to myself. Me

1213
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,839
Speaker 2: and kid, Me and kid styles we go to Echo Drugs.

1214
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 2: It's X drugs. We go to X Drugs and I

1215
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: I knew it was gonna be something's gonna happen. I

1216
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: get to the EX drugs, Me and a kid and the pharmacist.

1217
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: This is when pharmacist was open all night, and the

1218
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 2: pharmacies the man had I never forget. He had a

1219
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 2: thick mustache and some glasses. He turned his heart. He

1220
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 2: turned around. That man turned around, yees. I said, hey,

1221
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: I need some medicine. And I'm whispering because it's some

1222
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 2: construction workers in there doing painting and stuff. And I said,

1223
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: he said for what I said? I He said, you

1224
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: got crabs. All the constructions do all little man got

1225
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: crabs out. Give me the medicine, right, tell me what

1226
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: the medicine is the little shampool, look home, I got

1227
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: just the medicine. We go to the register. Oh it's

1228
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: just girl at this register. She fire kiss that one,

1229
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 2: not the window. Now we go back and this when

1230
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: that little basket, the little purse basket just came out.

1231
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 2: We get the basket. We put the crab ins, and

1232
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 2: we put a bunch of other stuff in there. And

1233
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: I said, hey, kid, when we get up there, just

1234
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: talk to her. She ringing up. He talking and she

1235
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: just ringing up up. She ain't even looking at it.

1236
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: So she said do do just ringing up to doo doop,

1237
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: and then keep the medicine. Didn't ring up. This is

1238
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 2: the only thing that didn't ring up, and she looked

1239
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: and saw that crab message. My pie is so dirty.

1240
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: He going to mind that's his medicine. But I went

1241
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: in sold my I remember probably claim to me and said, man,

1242
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: my meat hot. I said what he said, Man, I'm

1243
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: pissing off fire. I said, well you got some. You

1244
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: got some. You meet juice and you got some. But

1245
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: I went and told my part, and I said, hey, man,

1246
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: this boy meet how they woke up the meat stuff

1247
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: to hisself and he said, hey mane, then let me

1248
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: take you to the doctor. What now? We all three

1249
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: go to Riverside it was, and together we in f Yeah. Yeah,

1250
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: this boy me hot. But it's no embarrassing people nowadays.

1251
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: Let that fester into something else because they embarrassed. Now, man,

1252
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: you gotta have friends, and you gotta have real friends

1253
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 2: that's dedicated to what you're doing. If not, yeah, you're

1254
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: gonna have mental health conditions. Yeah, you're gonna be out

1255
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 2: in the streets wild, and you don't have nobody to say,

1256
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 2: hey man, better don't do that. I mean, you don't nothing, man, bro.

1257
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: But if everybody thugging, how many kids out here just

1258
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: going along? Just get along? Right?

1259
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: You mentioned your grandma early in the beginning. How influence

1260
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: you was she.

1261
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: Man, big deal, both of them, my dad's mom and

1262
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: my mom's mom, both of them, my grandma CALLI. She

1263
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: was different than my Grandma Luise, but they and I

1264
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 2: didn't like my Grandma Louise at first when I was

1265
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 2: a kid, you know, but I understood why she did

1266
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: the things that she did. You know. These are the

1267
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: same people that taught me how to guard and taught

1268
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: me how to grow stuff, taught me, gave me work ethic,

1269
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, babysat me, whoop my ass

1270
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: when I when I when I needed it. You know,

1271
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: all these all these different things. When they instill a lot,

1272
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: they still a lot of me, you know. And they

1273
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: never lied to me. Neither one of them. Never lied

1274
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: to me. Didn't didn't make me out to be more

1275
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 2: than what I was or none of that. Just man,

1276
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: you gotta be solid. My mama was like that, my

1277
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: aunts were like that. I'm I'm groomed by my family

1278
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: and I go back to me and I hate that

1279
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 2: I got locked up and my family had the bet

1280
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: at that burden of sending me stuff and explaining where

1281
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 2: I was at and all these things. Man, I'm supposed

1282
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: to be doing something else. Let me ask you a question,

1283
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: had you not gotten locked up? Are you sitting here today? Yeah,

1284
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here today. I'm one of the greatest chefs alone. Yeah,

1285
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there. See that's the thing I tell people, Man,

1286
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: you ain't got to go through no hardship to get nowhere.

1287
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,560
Speaker 2: Everything doesn't have to be hard. Life is supposed to

1288
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: be fun. It's supposed to be fun. It's not supposed

1289
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: to be hard.

1290
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: You wanted to be a chef, were somewhere along the line,

1291
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: you started cooking stuff that wasn't on the menu. The menu,

1292
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: So when you decided to make that turn, do you

1293
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: remember like, Man, I'm gonna start selling.

1294
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do the wrong people. And I was like, man,

1295
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: what y'all what y'all doing? Get? Because they felt like

1296
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: big walls of money and my mama, my mama working

1297
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: hard for her money. She ain't and she ain't coming

1298
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: off of it easy staying to come to my mom

1299
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 2: and ask for something. You got to have your situation together. Hey,

1300
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: all that coming to like, it's some new shoes out

1301
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 2: and not what's wrong with shoes? You got on but Mama,

1302
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 2: these these cool. But my daddy bought him in the

1303
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: grocery store. These grocery store, my dad. And my daddy

1304
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: was cheap. I can't have no money. He was just cheap.

1305
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: Most old people cheap. He didn't, but I didn't understand that.

1306
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: My grandma, my grandma, she would work. She would put

1307
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 2: our stuff in lailway and work right. But by the

1308
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: time we got it out of our.

1309
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: Grew its style too.

1310
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: Man, my grandma, you and you're still gonna wear them clothes.

1311
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 2: We mad. And my grandma used to stop this by

1312
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 2: called Wieners bells, you know, palace roll. I member, my

1313
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: daddy got me a nice at the round table. It

1314
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: was supposed to be a polo. Don't do that, man,

1315
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 2: I get, I get that it's a post. It looked

1316
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: like a polo. But he but he had an act.

1317
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: He had that man had a flag. Man. I'm like, man,

1318
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm like hey, and and I'm rocketed like it's a polo.

1319
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 2: And and this is being embarrassed at school. Boy acts

1320
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 2: like he got on a polo. Man, that's the same.

1321
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: But nod on your chap. It ain't no dog on

1322
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: my shirt. Man, bro The rabbits. Man, I had these

1323
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: shirts with rabbits on. Man. My daddy, My daddy was

1324
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 2: a cold man because he was like, hey, man, you

1325
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 2: are the man. You made the clothes, not the clothes

1326
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 2: donna make.

1327
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: You and not a no kid, No kid's gonna drove

1328
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: you out.

1329
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. That's the part of growing up

1330
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 2: learning embarrassing, right, That's why you grow up in have

1331
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 2: tough skin. But I already knew it was gonna be

1332
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 2: like that because jones Is started at home and my cousins,

1333
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: my cousin mama, who had some more money than us,

1334
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: He got polos, and that boy come over with the

1335
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: collar popped up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, look at you, yeah,

1336
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: look at you. Like, first of all, boy, you didn't

1337
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 2: buy you didn't buy none of this. You ain't got

1338
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 2: no money. Your mama got the money, right this budget?

1339
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you see, I'm flying by and I'm I'm not.

1340
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 2: But I can wear my clothes. Well you know, so,

1341
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 2: now what difference does it make what I have on now?

1342
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: Because sometimes people don't even know what I have on.

1343
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: You don't know what I have on it.

1344
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: I stay laced Gucci LV.

1345
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 2: Now. But see when I was wearing the way way.

1346
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 2: They didn't know what that was at all, right, just

1347
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 2: like on my oh my wrists. I remember this lady

1348
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 2: walking through something. Oh, I like them clovers, them clothes,

1349
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 2: they COVID braces. I'm like, yeah, that's all I say

1350
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 2: is yeah. Now you see I was wearing Van Cleaves

1351
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 2: before everybody else. Now everybody now Lebron. I remember Lebron

1352
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: when they got this one right here, right, I'd already

1353
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: had on my wrists when he went. Yes, A lot

1354
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 2: of people steal my style. Oh shit, oh man, it's terrible. Man.

1355
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: Now now boys wear their shirt, they shirt buttoned up.

1356
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: I've been wearing my shirt like that because that's how

1357
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: my daddy wear shirt. No tie. Taylor made suits. See,

1358
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: I see this is the thing. You go back, I

1359
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: was wearing Taylor stuff when jay Z was still wearing jerseys.

1360
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 2: We go back and look at jay z first pictures

1361
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: him and Beni Sigu with them suits on, with all

1362
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 2: that all that material at the bottom. When see you,

1363
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: you wasn't doing what you were doing at first. I

1364
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: been doing this. Ain't no no bad pictures of Lee

1365
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 2: out there. They wouldn't fly then fly, Like I said,

1366
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 2: what the what this lady said, Kendrick Lamar k Dot

1367
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 2: The new style is bail bottom DM. I'm like the

1368
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 2: new style. Bill Bobbin was in back in the said

1369
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 2: don't tell him though I'm seventy three. Don't tell seventy three,

1370
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: ye don't tell them? Had them? Yeah, I'm gonna have them,

1371
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Just like I really think

1372
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: k Dot on this new album got some lingo from me.

1373
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah on the cool because he's not in that era

1374
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: to say squabble. Yeah, I'm I do my special. And

1375
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: I said theyre in there squabbling like them, and then

1376
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: then I was sudden squabble up. I said, yeah, ka

1377
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: do got me? He got me.

1378
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: But see, ain't nobody gonna believe it though. But see

1379
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: back then, it wasn't like you said, you win some,

1380
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: you lose some, but you went home. You not to

1381
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: the n You ain't pulling no gun on nobody. You

1382
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: had a you took your lump or you gave a lump.

1383
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 2: But ay ay you see these t right here, the

1384
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 2: two t right here that has been cracked several times.

1385
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: I'd have been hitting the mouth before. I always went

1386
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: home right, always went home. Man, you can you can

1387
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: tussle and go to the crib. Everybody ain't trying to walk.

1388
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 2: Why these boys can't tussle because they can't.

1389
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: They they ain't never been in no fight.

1390
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 2: But then you shoot somebody, then you go to prison.

1391
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: Then you got to fight. Yeah, but you we grew

1392
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 2: up in there. You had to fight. You're gonna get

1393
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: You had to fight your brother, your cousin. You gotta fight.

1394
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe that somebody in our

1395
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: in our age group didn't fight, didn't have at least one.

1396
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: He now, Marcus D. Wiley never had a fight in

1397
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: his life, really never had a fight in his whole entire,

1398
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: like man fiftwo years old. He's never had a fight.

1399
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: But they had other people that would fight for him

1400
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: because he's a good dude. Right, I find myself do

1401
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 2: that now? He got all tight be cousins everything, Little

1402
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: Larry go hard. But but I man, somebody say something, monk.

1403
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to watch our monk. What

1404
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: that was? I ain't I ain't had a good one.

1405
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: I ain't had a good one in a minute. But

1406
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: I have got you old the waller.

1407
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: Now we done got you old waiting since the walle Now,

1408
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 1: I got I got a grad, got another one on

1409
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: the way.

1410
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 2: And the man saying, listen, it depends on the situation.

1411
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 2: Just let it go. You got too much going on

1412
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 2: the wall.

1413
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: Now what you're trying to bump with these kids, these

1414
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: young boys out here, because ain't nobody your ain'ge trying

1415
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: to bump with you.

1416
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: Yes, they that's the problem. They the young. Some of

1417
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: these old cats forget sometime. Hey man, you ain't had

1418
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: a fight since the third grade. I had one last year,

1419
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 2: so it's and then I got a problem. I punched

1420
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 2: the dude in the mouth and in Arizona for saying

1421
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: the N word to me. Black dude, white guy. I

1422
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: understand the culture. And they listen to the music and

1423
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: all that. And I told that man, I say, bro,

1424
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 2: I am in my fifties. I'm a different era, right,

1425
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm not with it. Many go man, listen, I'm I'm

1426
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this with you man. And

1427
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: then he said, he said again, I don't understand how

1428
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: they how they talk nowhere else, anybody that's outside of

1429
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 2: this skin color, anybody, Latino, Puerto Rican, Dominican, anybody, Because

1430
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 2: my grandmother ain't gonna understand you didn't go through the

1431
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 2: same You didn't go through the same thing. I don't

1432
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: care what you're talking about, because you can. You can.

1433
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: You can go back to your community and pretend and do.

1434
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm in this skin period. We from the South. I

1435
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: don't care what you're doing up north, come downhill, because

1436
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this. You ain't gonna say that

1437
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 2: in front of somebody that you respect. Right, they'll never

1438
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 2: sit on the couch with Roland Martin, a Fara Kahn

1439
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: or or or any of these guys that they respect.

1440
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 2: And and it be in word in word in word

1441
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 2: in word in where you wouldn't do it. You're not

1442
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: gonna do that in front of my grandma. And she

1443
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: don't understand. She don't understand me kicking with you like that.

1444
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: My uncles don't understand all that you from it. Now, Bro,

1445
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 2: you not from this. So when people get people of

1446
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 2: passes on that you can't do it, I can't do it.

1447
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: And I and I watched I watched Entertainer's coward to

1448
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: these people because you're not gonna do And see that's

1449
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 2: the other thing that that sparked me up. Hey, bro,

1450
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: I know better, I know better because inside the walls,

1451
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna do it because you know what the

1452
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 2: problem is. It's a problem all that. Ol I'm hip

1453
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 2: to the culture and oh man all that, Yeah, you

1454
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: ain't from the culture. You ain't from the culture. Yeah

1455
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: you don't get no past. No, and I man, I can't.

1456
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I just can't do it. Just like,

1457
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: go watch this. What racial slurs do we grow up

1458
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 2: having for other people? Yeah, but we don't use them.

1459
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: No, I ain't never felt because I had a white friend,

1460
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 1: or I didn't have Jewish friends until I didn't know

1461
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: they were Jewish when I was growing up, until I

1462
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: got till then fi til I got I started working

1463
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 1: at CBS. But I have no slurs. But I wouldn't

1464
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: say that.

1465
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it, oh just because we cool, because

1466
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 2: that don't make you cool.

1467
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: They're not gonna tolerate it. You already know you can't

1468
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: see you no slur to subscribe the Jewish community. It's over,

1469
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: it's over, so all this emotion. Oh it's just the word.

1470
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: Well if it's just the word, why can't we said

1471
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: to other groups? Because it's not just the word. It's

1472
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: not just the word but they can say it to

1473
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: us and everything's more, that's just words.

1474
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: It's an unrecorded amount of people that died behind that

1475
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: word true, behind the whole the whole system. Unrecorded. They

1476
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: can tell you how many people died doing this, but

1477
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 2: it's unrecorded how many of us actually died in that

1478
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 2: slave trade. But then we got the we got the

1479
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: audacity want to kill each other or say the history

1480
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 2: don't matter. You know how crazy that sound. I do,

1481
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 2: because we wouldn't be sitting here. You wouldn't be able

1482
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 2: to do what you're doing on no level without the

1483
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: sacrifice of our ancestors. No, I'm talking about the real sacrifice.

1484
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: It's easy to to say whatever now, but what about

1485
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: when you could not talk? True, they would cut your tongue,

1486
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 2: got your mouth. That's crazy. They would cut your tongue

1487
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 2: out of your mouth. But you have no type of

1488
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: honor for your ancestors. They would bury a woman in

1489
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: the ground while she was trying to give birth for entertainment.

1490
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 2: They would burn you and chop you up and throw

1491
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: you in a river. But you have no honor for them,

1492
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: and you insane. You're insane. That's what's wrong. I don't

1493
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 2: think they understand. Prison really made me understand, really made

1494
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: me understand. I'm so apologetic for what I did to

1495
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: in the streets. I'm so apologetic. I don't I don't

1496
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: make it light. I don't try to honor it. You

1497
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 2: don't try to glamorize it. But not at all because

1498
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 2: I'm so a fent man. I remember being in Frisco.

1499
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Big shout out to Roy Woods Jr. And my man

1500
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 2: Chris Cotton. Chris Cotton passed, man, I'm so, I'm such

1501
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm in such a dark place because we at this

1502
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 2: comedy Comedy Centum has this comedy convention, and I'm walking

1503
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: from my hotel to the spot where we're performing at

1504
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: and I'm there for days, and I keep trying to

1505
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: walk different ways to avoid all these homeless, drugged out

1506
01:28:55,640 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 2: people because it's just breaking my heart. And I said

1507
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: to myself, I said, man, what did I do to

1508
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 2: contribute to this? Because this is a chemical generation based

1509
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 2: upon the people who I sold drugs to. These these

1510
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 2: are their offspring. And I'm I'm so affected and I'm

1511
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm not doing well and I'm talking to

1512
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:34,799
Speaker 2: Chris and Roy Woods is telling me this story about

1513
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 2: what he's going to say on this storytelling the show

1514
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 2: that were about to do and it and it lightened

1515
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:50,560
Speaker 2: me up because I was so depressed about my contributions

1516
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 2: to this. I'm so I don't think I got a

1517
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 2: lot of remorse. Like people are like, I ain't got

1518
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 2: no regrets.

1519
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 3: I do.

1520
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 2: I regret ever picking up a fifty pack. I do.

1521
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: It's because it the ramifications of it is so crazy.

1522
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 2: We're talking about people who we weren't allowed to read,

1523
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to do certain things. So how dare I

1524
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 2: come and set us back destroying more people, more families.

1525
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 2: It's not one person, it's a family is going through

1526
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 2: So in prison, this is the closest that you ever

1527
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 2: get to slavery. I'm a judicial slave, and I know

1528
01:30:56,080 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 2: it from the jump, reading history, knowing history. I come in,

1529
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 2: they strip you down, Okay, say that man put his

1530
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 2: fingers in my mouth to make sure I ain't have

1531
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 2: nothing in my mouth. I got to squat hold my

1532
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 2: my butt open for the officer spreads. If you got

1533
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 2: to do all this, you are you? They they give

1534
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 2: you a number. They shave your head down, give you

1535
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 2: a number like branding you. They put you on a

1536
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 2: bus they chain you to another person and you riding

1537
01:31:54,720 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 2: for hours and miles. Hm h the buses, the ship.

1538
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm still chained. They put you on a farm and

1539
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 2: you work no pay, They feed you very little. You

1540
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: in a seal, the and it's it's they on a horse, right,

1541
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 2: you getting mentally whipped, you getting abused. The craziest thing

1542
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 2: about being in prison was this. I wasn't worried about

1543
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 2: no inmates. I was worried about the officers because a

1544
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 2: lot of these officers. You you locked up and you

1545
01:32:54,200 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 2: in these small towns, everybody family, any dad. A week,

1546
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: you could have died and they could have covered you up.

1547
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 2: Eight hundred miles from home. The closest communication is a letter.

1548
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 2: You gotta wait for that to get there. They could

1549
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:22,879
Speaker 2: kill you and say whatever happened, Who gonna find out? Nobody?

1550
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that it's people that die

1551
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 2: in the county jail. They put them in there and

1552
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 2: they and they tuck them away. There's people families down

1553
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 2: there that's dying. Like, if I do my best and

1554
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 2: somebody I know go to you, I'll do my best

1555
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 2: to bond you out, and you gotta fight for your

1556
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 2: freedom or fight for your situation when you're on the street,

1557
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 2: because I know what had happened in there. Anything can

1558
01:33:51,400 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 2: happen in there. So I've seen people get it stabbed up,

1559
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 2: just left and they say, don't nobody know into the

1560
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 2: next shift. I've seen officers beat people up real bad,

1561
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 2: put you in the hole. They don't know if you're

1562
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 2: in there breathing or not. This is the closest to

1563
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 2: slavery you ever be. And once you understand this condition,

1564
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 2: you don't want no young kids, and you don't want

1565
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 2: no old people. But you you have a healthy respect

1566
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 2: for the ancestors, what they went through, just what they

1567
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 2: went through, and to not honor that, to not be

1568
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 2: an honorable person. And I have bro when I when

1569
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 2: I see somebody of my same ethnic group, I'm always

1570
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 2: gonna smile at you because I'm happy to see you.

1571
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 2: We frowned each other too much that we don't even

1572
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 2: know each other what you frowning for. Because you will

1573
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 2: have this person. I don't have to have no persona

1574
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 2: of being tough. I already know I'm tough. I'm just

1575
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 2: like I see hey white, like you see guys in

1576
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 2: pictures they not smiling. Why some wrong with your tea,

1577
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 2: some wrong with your attitude, some wrong with your heart.

1578
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. A lot of people they heart,

1579
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 2: they got they got a heart condition, they got black

1580
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 2: spots on their heart. What's wrong with the heart? What's

1581
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 2: the man? The community? And we're still in We're still

1582
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: in the same condition that we were in the fifties,

1583
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 2: same condition. Some situations worse. And people think that they

1584
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 2: are they better because you got some money. Man, money

1585
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 2: don't really make you nothing. And a lot of people

1586
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 2: not putting no, they're not putting no deposits in their

1587
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 2: spiritual bank account. They find out they gotta financial money,

1588
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: But what about your spiritual bank account? What about the

1589
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 2: things that the creator is gonna count? What about those things?

1590
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 2: Stop doing everything for show because it's not it's not

1591
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 2: a it's not a real It's over for that. Do

1592
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 2: the Internet doesn't ruin that?

1593
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I gotta make you believe that I'm

1594
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: something that I'm not. Why how else would you like me.

1595
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like you.

1596
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: Period know you won't. Why not because they believe that

1597
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: you won't. I know what you're saying, but you see,

1598
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean the internet be something I'll be. I g

1599
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 1: they have me questions.

1600
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: I like you, I liked you before the internet, but

1601
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm broncos I like to people go to the internet.

1602
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: But if you think about it, how many times people

1603
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 1: take go rent a car, a nice car, rent a house.

1604
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 1: Beat don't take spend five thousand dollars just to go

1605
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: take pictures like they're going on a private jet.

1606
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 2: See saying that people that do that, it's crazy. It's

1607
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 2: like people who go on vacation and come back to bills.

1608
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 2: This is really not a vacation.

1609
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't understand that you take out a

1610
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 1: loan to go on vacation.

1611
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,560
Speaker 2: Why would you do that because you got to be

1612
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 2: seen taking the pack? Hey I could take that. First

1613
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 2: of all, I'm not living to take a picture. If

1614
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 2: I do a lot of stuff that a picture ain't

1615
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 2: there far? Yes, I'm not. Why do I need the

1616
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 2: picture wrong? What's wrong with the memory up here? Yes,

1617
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 2: said my man. I went somewhere and I didn't tell

1618
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 2: nobody where I was at. You don't need to let

1619
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 2: me ask you this. When you started selling.

1620
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: When you're young and you're selling drugs, the older guard

1621
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 1: feel they can take advantage of. They feel they can

1622
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 1: run down on you because you young. What you said,

1623
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 1: you went to jail a with nineteen. So nineteen do

1624
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 1: people steal your stuff? The people just take your stuff,

1625
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 1: take what your drugs?

1626
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 2: And I went to jail four days as I turned nineteen. Hell,

1627
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 2: you didn't even get this. I parted really, really hard.

1628
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 2: So I wasn't on the streets at nineteen. So my

1629
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 2: birthday is October seventeenth. October twenty. First, I'm locked up. Okay,

1630
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 2: So before that, I got robbed one time. How did

1631
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 2: you get to drop on you? Me? Thinking fair business?

1632
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 2: I deubled to these people before thinking fair business. I

1633
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 2: get there and they draw down on me, and I said,

1634
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 2: and what we're doing? And people took my drugs and

1635
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 2: they put me in my own trunk. I had a

1636
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,560
Speaker 2: brown money call over I would put them in. And

1637
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 2: I'm in the trunk and I'm duct taped. And what

1638
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 2: I was mad about. I had just moved my tire

1639
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 2: and I was supposed to put it back, just put

1640
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 2: the tide back in there. I ain't put the tie

1641
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 2: back in the right. So I'm in there uncomfortable. Uncome

1642
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 2: on this tie and I'm in I'm doing end up

1643
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 2: doing bad right. So when that happened. That changed the

1644
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 2: whole temperature of the game for me. So now you

1645
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 2: don't trust nobody, don't trust nobody, and I got them back.

1646
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 2: Is that is? That?

1647
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Is that the mindset that you have to have that

1648
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: you really don't have friends, You really can't trust nobody

1649
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: in this situation because the moment you let your guard

1650
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 1: down to start to trust, that's when somebody get the

1651
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 1: edge on you.

1652
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was on amongst these and

1653
01:39:56,640 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 2: then it changed out of know where. It just changed,

1654
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: just like hip hop folks was rapping positive and then

1655
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they weren't right. Everybody was selling.

1656
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 2: It's like everybody was selling drugs. But when I came up,

1657
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 2: it was all type of rappers. None of them was

1658
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 2: talking about selling drugs, none of them.

1659
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 1: But one of your biggest advocates was your mom. Your

1660
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 1: mom bailed you out several times. Once your mom bailed

1661
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: you out at sixteen, she put up two thousands. Uh huh,

1662
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: she misspoke the truth under oath you bought your mom.

1663
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 1: You bought your mom a car.

1664
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 2: I mean you were doing a lot. Yeah, you put

1665
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 2: your mom in a situation though, bro, Yeah, but what's

1666
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 2: crazy when I was beefing with a particular ethnic group,

1667
01:40:56,120 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 2: these Columbias. We had a war with these people. It'd

1668
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 2: take me forever to get to my mama's house because

1669
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 2: I never I would never go to her crib unless

1670
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm taking all types of routes. Make sure anybody following

1671
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 2: me getting out, going in places, coming back around. I

1672
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: was doing a lot, man, Just go see my mama.

1673
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 2: I didn't. I and I stayed away a lot because

1674
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 2: I was in these beefs and these people would kill

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01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 2: my family because I would do the same. For that.

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Speaker 2: They didn't want they didn't want me to know where

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01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,600
Speaker 2: they was at because we beefing. This and this is

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01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 2: this is what a beef is. When you beefing, it's

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01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 2: no safety in this. Like when people say, oh, you

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01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 2: ain't even know beef. You you probably y'all, y'all, y'all

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01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 2: arguing with each other, but you ain't no beef because

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01:41:55,400 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: a beef, man, it's add yeah. Man, people kill your brother,

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01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 2: kill your mama, kill your cousins, just to just to

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01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 2: flush you out, just to get you to come out.

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Speaker 2: That's a beef. Ain't no ain't no rules, ain't no

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01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 2: rules to it. Besides to kill or be killed, but

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Speaker 2: you don't want to do none of that.

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Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

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Speaker 1: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

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Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

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Speaker 1: simply go back to club shap profile and I'll see

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Speaker 1: you there