WEBVTT - Declan Doyle eager to make an impact | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.960 Cut open that Dj Moore nisode Touchdown Touchdown Bears. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:10.479 I am Jeff Joniack blitz us up, Donnie go up? 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.680 What was like playing for coache goodgo. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.439 I don't want to answer any questions like that pressure 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:30.360 coming is a big trouble Dommie Goos Mottest Sweat. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:26.720 Bears, et cetera. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.120 Brought to you by Miller Lake with the voices of 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.400 the Bears, Jeff Joniac and Tom Thayer. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:36.280 Well, there is some really palpable momentum building at Hallis 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:38.440 Hall these days as the coaching staff fills out with 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.919 a blend of significant experience and youth, with branches from 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.280 many trees in the National Football League, and in the 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.479 end this is going to be a new Bears tree 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:50.160 with a confluence of concepts and strategies unique to the franchise. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.400 For twenty twenty five and be on with Super Bowl 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:53.480 winning Bears guard Tom Thayer. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:54.360 I'm Jeff Joniac. 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.600 Episode one thirty one of the Bears et Cetera podcast 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:58.560 is brought to you by Miller Like good to be 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.480 back with you each week here the off season until 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.040 we get rolling again and it is coming fast. Tom, 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:04.600 how are you feeling? 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.280 Number One? Off knee replacement surgery. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.319 I feel good. I'm ready to roll. They did a 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:09.959 great job. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.520 I think whenever you have a tough beginning to a week, 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.919 but you always know you're waiting for that five thirty 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:20.039 Central starting time of a super Bowl. You're envious, you're jealous, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.160 but you're excited as well. So I think I always 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.800 have my site set on doing the podcast, seeing what's 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.640 new in the next day of Bears football, watching the 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.840 super Bowl, and then it's pretty much Bear focus after that. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.119 Oh yeah, you know, we have the luxury of paying 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.440 attention to the super Bowl, but the luxury after that 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.240 is paying attention to Bears football. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:40.840 Yeah, and it's going to come swiftly. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.479 Combine's coming up here in a couple of weeks, and 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.640 so a lot of talk about that free agency. You'll 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.800 kick in all that, and everybody's got ideas, ideas are 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.400 floating everywhere, Tommy. With each passing day, there is more 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.160 good news pouring into the franchise in terms of the 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.920 coaching staff, the position coaches. Some have been announced, some 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.320 have not been announced. It's going to be a situation 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.520 now where it's reportedly so we're talking about a lot 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:10.120 of different experiences here, different experiences in terms of where 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.640 people have been on defensive side of the ball the 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.400 offensive side of the ball. And we're going to hear 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.560 from one of those coaches, offensive coordinator Declan Doyle. Overall, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.799 before we get into any details, what is your impression 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.480 of the mix? Is the mix important to you of 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.560 the age and experience and the youthful influence as well? 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.000 Of course it is, But you know, my interest is 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:33.040 where they came from, where's their foundation lede who was 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.560 the biggest influences in their football life. Since they have 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.800 an opportunity to have a job of such importance of 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.200 getting this Bear team turned around. And whether it's an 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.519 ex player background or if it's the difficulty of climbing 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.000 the coaching ladder in the NFL, but all the lessons 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.080 you learned in your past, I think that's what I'm 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.680 most encouraged and most excited about. And when you have 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.720 people calling Ben Johnson one of the most talented play 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.280 callers in the NFL at this stage of his career, 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.560 the staff that he's putting together, and ever we all 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.480 know what Dennis Allen has done in his past, and 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.359 we know a lot about Richard High tower. I'm excited 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:14.560 to see what the future holds. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.840 Tom, I'm calling it a staff with substance. Would you 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.959 say that's a fair representation one hundred percent? 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:25.120 Of course it's a staff with substance, because, like we've mentioned, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.200 is the ladders that they had to climb if they 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.400 didn't have playing in their background. But then if you 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.359 have playing in your background, everything you are able to 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.520 learn and how you can transfer that information to the 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:41.600 playing groups that you're coaching. Listen, Listen, I'm super excited 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.760 because we're not only talking about a coaching staff. We're 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.800 talking about a coaching staff that comes to a team 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.360 that has a franchise. 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.000 Quarterback in place. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.920 And when is the last time throughout the course of 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.240 the off seasons that, whether we had a podcast or not, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.080 that we're talking about having a franchise quarterback in place 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.240 doesn't come with that great of frequency. So I'm excited 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:08.680 to see how all these pieces fit in place with substance. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.280 And that is also a fair representation of Tom Thayer. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:15.320 Pieces fit together, and a man with substance because our 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.080 aches and pains or injuries keeping you on the sidelines, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.000 Athletico's movement experts are here to help you turn your 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.880 setbacks into comebacks and create a personalized game plan for 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.920 your recovery with no prescription or referral needed. Athletico Physical 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.599 Therapy is where your comeback story begins. Athletico is proud 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.120 to be the official physical therapy partner of the Chicago Bears, 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:40.080 a longtime partner, we welcome in into the podcast. As 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.520 an ex player, you're a little bit like Humpty Dumpty, right, 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.600 you need things over the course of your life. You've 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.600 already had hips, knee, got back surgeries in the course 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:50.400 of your career. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.800 What is the best. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.880 Advice you can give players when they end their careers 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.440 and move into their post professional life. As you get older, 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.520 you're going to have some pains, regardless if you played 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.840 sports or not. And if you played sports, you're guaranteed 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.480 to have something. You played in the trenches for ten 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.880 or eleven years at the NFL level, not to mention 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.280 your high school and college experiences. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.440 Don't become bored and stationary. Find something that activates your 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.400 mind in your system. Find something that you're excited about 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.400 attacking every day, whether it's getting back into the weight 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.640 room without the responsibilities of being in there as a 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.080 football active football player. What can you do to put 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.680 that as an enjoyable experience to go to the weight 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.719 room where what is going to light your system on fire? 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.000 And for me, and I know it's not for everybody 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.919 who was surfing, because surfing put that same feeling in 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.279 the pit of my stomach that pulling up to a 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.200 stadium on the day of a game did. But for somebody, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.400 some way, shape or form, there is that element of 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:56.479 excitement that can happen for every single X player out there. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.160 I know you don't want to talk about you. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.919 I know you're uncomfortable with that, and I'm gonna pose 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.200 this to you. You know that lure of the ocean 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.200 and the board, and you've adjusted over the course of 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.440 your life to you know, the long board and paddle board. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.000 Would you now be able to do this here in 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.040 the coming months again? 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.680 Were your body allowed? Do you believe? 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:16.839 Yeah? 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.839 You know the thing about it, what I like most 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.680 about it is the fear I have when I go 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.560 back into the ocean for the first time of being 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.560 in the Midwest and I go have a chance to 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.240 go back out to Why there's times out there that 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.160 my knees are shaking as if I was facing Reggie White, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.360 And I think that's the healthy part of it, because 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.600 once you lose that pulling up to the stadium on 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.320 the Sunday of a game, whether you're on a team 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.640 bus or you're in your own car, it's hard to 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.720 find that nervousness. Again, that's a healthy nervousness. And so 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.840 that's what surfing has done for me, and that's why 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.400 I recommend it to anybody, you know. I mean, it 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:00.760 could be getting into a cooking contest, getting into a tournament, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.400 getting to pickleball, whatever the case is, because a lot 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.600 of times you and I talk to ex players that 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.120 have been out of the game for thirty years and 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:13.440 now they're into this whole pickleball thing and they're excited 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.000 about it and they want to talk about it, and 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.720 they're on their feet and they're working hard. And so 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.840 whatever is going to get you up off the chair 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.040 and on your feet, take advantage of it. 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.520 Well, a guy like you who's fidgety, you need to 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.720 have You need to be active otherwise you're not gonna 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.320 be happy, right. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.160 As so do you? Yeah, we'll blame it all on me. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:33.600 You're as fidgety as I am. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.240 For savings, and service get more with Geico. All right, 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:40.360 let's listen into our interview with new offensive coordinator Declan Doyle. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.600 Welcome, thank you. How does this feel? How does Chicago 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:44.200 Bears feel? 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.280 Feels good? Yeah, excited to be here and excited to 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:48.880 be a part of it. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.960 And what about the history you roll in here? George 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.480 Howise statue greenya, I mean do you embrace that? 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.320 You know, growing up in the Midwest, obviously very aware 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.880 of the history of the Chicago Bears and kind of 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:02.120 the weight of that and the fan base and all that, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.080 and it's pretty surreal you walk in here, and it's 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:07.640 what brings you to a place like this. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.760 Right, because not every franchise has it totally. Some do 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:12.520 totally a lot, don't yep. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.160 Relationship with Ben Johnson, How did that all come about? 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.880 Yeah, so funny story. At three years ago, I actually 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.320 interviewed for the tight end job in Detroit and I 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.400 was I was an offensive assistant in New Orleans. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.640 I went in and I had worked. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.040 For Dan Campbell in New Orleans, like directly underneath him, 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.560 and so I felt good about the situation and kind 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.959 of going in there did the interview. Ben kind of 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.200 led it that was going to be his first year 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.080 as a coordinator, and I felt like I did well. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.599 You know, I'm looking around at the room and I'm like, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.000 I think that, you know, the rest of this room 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:41.560 is going to feel like I got this job. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:42.240 Ben was. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.160 Ben was very challenging to interview with, and I was like, 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.840 I think that guy doesn't like me. So I actually 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.280 left the room and I was like, I think everybody 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:50.959 in this room would say like, hey, you know this guy, 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.120 this guy should be the guy, except for Ben. I 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:54.960 was like, Ben, I think he hates me. He actually 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.520 reached out to me, you know, I ended up not 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.640 getting the job. He reaches out to me, you know, 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.080 shortly after that, and we kind of got together at 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.520 the combine and had some coffee, and we've maintained a 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:08.599 relationship since then. Obviously have followed him in Detroit and 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.760 watched the success that he's had, certainly somebody that I'm 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.200 really really excited to work directly with, but really just 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.280 kind of had that, like, you know, a little bit 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.320 of a mentor relationship from the side, stayed in contact 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.640 and obviously very excited for his opportunity here as well. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.439 When I found out he was coming here. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.920 Well, yeah, obviously said something right and then yeah right, 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.000 maybe not right then, but you definitely did. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:32.480 How would you describe Ben? 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.360 Ben is very detailed, smart, He's intentional with the way 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.080 he talks to people. He has very very little ego. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.880 When I talk to him, I feel like I'm talking 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:44.679 to a peer, even though he may be one of 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.800 the best play callers in football right now. You know, 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.800 I think that he is driven by the right things, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.000 and that is the relationship with the people, players, the 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.160 other coaches. You know, when I look at Ben, he's 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.640 somebody that I looked at even you know, after interviewing 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.760 with him three years ago, and I looked at him 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.360 as you know, it's hard to find mentors in this business, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:03.840 and you look at him and you're like, I want 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.120 to be like that guy, just really really excited to 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:07.120 be here with him. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:11.160 Does that make the collaborative process easier than for you 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.319 because you've been looking up to this guy? In a sense, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.200 I think, so you guys are also smart guys, both 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:21.240 of you. Do you make this offense then a reflection 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:22.439 of I think. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.719 The offense is a reflection of all of us, you know, Ben, 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.040 certainly the players and then the staff that's going to 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.920 be assembled. It kind of becomes, you know, all of 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.760 ours put together. And you know, we're certainly very early 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.520 in that process and we'll start to hammer out that work. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.520 I'm really excited to work with him, and I think 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.000 the collaborati process is going to be great. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:42.760 How would you describe your philosophy? 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.400 We didn't talk a ton about you know, you know, 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.199 what he believes or what I believe. I believe that, 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.200 you know, the offense has to be physical, and it 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.960 starts with being physical upfront, physical with the ball in 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.760 your hands, violent run after catch, team, being one of 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.800 the best perimeter blocking units in football. I think that 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.199 that's really going to be important with you know, establishing 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.200 who we are here. I believe in, you know, an 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.400 offense that's very detailed. You know, you're always trying to 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.559 attack the eleven brains on defense. You're trying to attack 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.360 the defensive coordinator, find ways to stress them and figure 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.960 out the rules and then stress their rules. And you know, 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.640 that was something I was exposed to around coach Peyton 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.960 obviously in New Orleans and Denver, and it's why you 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.000 stay up all night, you know, trying to figure out, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.520 you know how are they gonna defend us? And what 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.679 can we do to you know, make their lives a 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.000 little bit more challenging. And then lastly, you know, you 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:32.800 gotta find ways to be explosive. You gotta find ways 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.920 to get the ball to your best players in space, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.840 uh and put your players in position to have success, 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.760 whatever that may be. And Ben said it, he said, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.080 you know, this isn't a drop the playbook and you know, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.559 just recreate what he did in Detroit. It's got to 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.000 be based around the players. It's got to be a 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.560 base around the personnel that you have. And I think 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.320 that you know, over the next you know, six months 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.400 and into this this first season, we're going to kind 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.679 of see, you know, what that is and who we 0:11:58.720 --> 0:11:59.080 want to be. 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.880 You're been trying Haydn's backyard. I grew up in Naperville, 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.079 just west to Hear Right. How would you describe that 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:06.720 experience with Sean? 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.600 Yes, I would say that transformational is how I would say. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.400 He is somebody that has had a huge impact in 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:18.520 my life. He's pulled me from relative anonymity twice. He 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.040 gave me my first job in the NFL when I 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.320 was twenty two years old. I had coached at IOWA 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.760 for three seasons as a student and kind of done 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.959 some work there. And Joe Brady left and he went 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.520 to LSU, and so that job opened up and I 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.240 was able to interview for it and I got it. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.320 I spent four years in New Orleans, three under Sean. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.880 That was outstanding. I mean that I described that I 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.480 have a middle brother who went to Harvard, and I 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.280 described that as you know my Harvard experience, you know, 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.559 earning a PhD in football. You know. Then moving forward, 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.000 Sean goes to Denver and I'm able to go with him. 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.840 He elevated me and allowed me to be a position coach. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.400 But I have so much respect for coach Peyton, and 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.520 you know what he built in New Orleans and then 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.959 you know what he's beginning to build in Denver. Obviously, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.480 being able to be there for the beginning of it 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.000 is a really special thing. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:01.439 Right. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.960 So your experience with bo Nicks, Yeah, we spring up, 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:05.800 Caleb Williams. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.600 You know what is the key in developing a young quarterback? 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:09.840 In your opinion, First. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.640 And foremost, it's about the processing ability, fitting the offense 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.000 to the player. And so I would describe that like 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.000 the quarterback is a processor. There are physical tools that 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.120 are required to do the job, but he's the leader 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.640 of the offense. He is he is the processor. And 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.640 if you look at a phone, okay, like the computer 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.480 processor behind that. Drew Brees was an iPhone twenty five 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.480 when I was there, Okay, he was way beyond I 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.920 think the most important thing is you fit it and 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.280 don't ask the guy to do anything that is beyond 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.439 him yet. I think it's a process. I think all 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.240 of that is earned and I think, you know, we 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.360 got to do a really good job of fitting this 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:47.800 thing to him. It was the same with Bo. When 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.439 Bo came in, we had to shape it around him 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.400 and his skill set. You know, Caleb has a very 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.240 unique skill set that's that's different than Bo's, and so 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.280 it's going to be about evaluating, you know, how he plays, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.280 and then being able to build in schemes and ask 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.200 him to do things and with the operation that are 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:05.880 going to fit him. 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.560 Still yet to come, what else is on the roster. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.120 But you intrigued with the talent at the skill. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.360 Positions, yes, very much. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.800 So. Obviously followed Dj Moore while he was in Carolina 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.040 and saw a ton of crossover tape when I was 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.600 in New Orleans. He's somebody that I've admired from Afar 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.680 coaching the tight end position co comet, very impressive. You know, 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.800 he's somebody that probably hasn't He's a little bit, you know, overlooked. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.120 I would say he absolutely has value in both the 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.200 running the past. Huge fan of him and from Afar. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.720 You know, obviously Rome very talented. The backs, you know, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.480 you get Swift and and some of those guys. There's 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.400 a ton of pieces here that are really exciting. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:44.760 I didn't know about this. They told me to ask you. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.880 There were Twitter reports that you were related to Mike 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:48.280 Dick g. 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.160 Yeah, I saw this true. That is not true. What 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.520 an honor that would be. I saw that. My brothers 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.800 actually sent me, uh kind of the side by side, 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.760 and I could I could see, I could see the resemblance. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.080 But no, I am not related to my right. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.160 One of the first things that stick out is is 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.520 the tailoring of the offense around Caleb's strengths, and Caleb 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.280 is quoted as saying as much over the course of 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:15.400 his post. Ben Johnson higher that, yeah, it's going to 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.960 be an offense build around my strengths. Something that suits 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.840 me and then built it out from there. How important 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:22.120 is that? 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:23.120 Got it? 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.760 You know, first of all, you have to do the 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:28.480 evaluation of what you consider the strengths of the quarterback 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.840 that you're going to get ready to work with. Then 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.760 you got to think about the pieces you already have 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.040 in place and how that system mentally and physically can 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.080 fit that quarterback into the rest of the players on 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.960 the team. And I'm glad one thing about Declan in 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.320 his interview with you, he didn't just have a complete answer. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.040 I think there was a question that you ask him, 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.320 he didn't give you an answer, And. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.240 I like that because it is not that clear cut. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:58.000 There's so much evaluation, so much studying, so much time 0:15:58.040 --> 0:15:59.400 to consideration of. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.160 The different that you have and how you're going to 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:02.640 use them. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.640 And then you think of the tree that he grew 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.560 up with, you know, between Ben Johnson, between Sean Payton. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.120 You know, it wasn't an obvious hire the first time 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:15.160 he met Ben Johnson, but bo Ben Johnson wasn't impressed 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.440 by what he showed him as a young person and 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.880 then being involved in coaching since he's been twenty two 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.840 years old. Right, my gosh, we won the Super Bowl 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.280 when I was twenty four years old, and I think 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.800 of a guy, you know, two years younger than me 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.520 at that point already being involved in coaching. Man, there's 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.400 so much you can learn on your way up that 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:37.800 coaching ladder. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.600 Yeah, he says, he's already had a decade of some 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.520 sort of coaching experience. And that question was what was 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.320 going to be the message to the fans who've been 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.200 thirsting for an offensive and he goes, no, get to work, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.280 And that seems to be the philosophy here. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:52.280 You mentioned trees too. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.720 We talk about it all the time, and just going 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.800 through all the offensive hires, some have not been officially announced, 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.480 but you talk about a few that already have Dan Campbell, 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:09.280 Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Doug Peterson. That's just to name 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.639 a few. So what I get out of that, though, 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:16.560 is the impact of the running game, A power running game, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.639 ball control. Obviously, there's going to be the ball is 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.359 going to be in the air with a quarterback like 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:27.120 Caleb Williams. But you know, Ben Johnson values, he said 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.639 he values the impact of a running game. I'm thinking 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.600 efficient offense, run game. What do you think when I 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.480 throw all those names at you because they're all linked 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:35.040 in some way. 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.320 I mean, there's a variety of different types of influences 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.720 in all the background of every one of those guys. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.320 But I think the importance of a running game in 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.080 football is what dictates the variety of things you can 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.840 do on the offensive side of the ball, because you 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.600 can't run play action passing that is super deceptive if 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.639 you can't run the ball, because the opponent gives you 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.760 no respect. So if that is your number one priority, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.480 then that is going to be the foundation of your offense. 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:04.760 And that's the first thing you're going. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.480 To install to have the all the other elements within 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.159 an offense. And then when you talk about guys like 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.560 Cole and DJ and Rome and DeAndre and all the 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.800 other guys that you can mention Roshan and stuff, and 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.480 you have to have that base. You have to have 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.200 that one element that is going to be the ignition 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.040