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Speaker 1: Well, there is some really palpable momentum building at Hallis
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Speaker 1: back with you each week here the off season until
Speaker 1: we get rolling again and it is coming fast. Tom,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling?
Speaker 2: Number One? Off knee replacement surgery.
Speaker 5: I feel good. I'm ready to roll. They did a
Speaker 5: great job.
Speaker 6: I think whenever you have a tough beginning to a week,
Speaker 6: but you always know you're waiting for that five thirty
Speaker 6: Central starting time of a super Bowl. You're envious, you're jealous,
Speaker 6: but you're excited as well. So I think I always
Speaker 6: have my site set on doing the podcast, seeing what's
Speaker 6: new in the next day of Bears football, watching the
Speaker 6: super Bowl, and then it's pretty much Bear focus after that.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you know, we have the luxury of paying
Speaker 6: attention to the super Bowl, but the luxury after that
Speaker 6: is paying attention to Bears football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to come swiftly.
Speaker 1: Combine's coming up here in a couple of weeks, and
Speaker 1: so a lot of talk about that free agency. You'll
Speaker 1: kick in all that, and everybody's got ideas, ideas are
Speaker 1: floating everywhere, Tommy. With each passing day, there is more
Speaker 1: good news pouring into the franchise in terms of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff, the position coaches. Some have been announced, some
Speaker 1: have not been announced. It's going to be a situation
Speaker 1: now where it's reportedly so we're talking about a lot
Speaker 1: of different experiences here, different experiences in terms of where
Speaker 1: people have been on defensive side of the ball the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. And we're going to hear
Speaker 1: from one of those coaches, offensive coordinator Declan Doyle. Overall,
Speaker 1: before we get into any details, what is your impression
Speaker 1: of the mix? Is the mix important to you of
Speaker 1: the age and experience and the youthful influence as well?
Speaker 6: Of course it is, But you know, my interest is
Speaker 6: where they came from, where's their foundation lede who was
Speaker 6: the biggest influences in their football life. Since they have
Speaker 6: an opportunity to have a job of such importance of
Speaker 6: getting this Bear team turned around. And whether it's an
Speaker 6: ex player background or if it's the difficulty of climbing
Speaker 6: the coaching ladder in the NFL, but all the lessons
Speaker 6: you learned in your past, I think that's what I'm
Speaker 6: most encouraged and most excited about. And when you have
Speaker 6: people calling Ben Johnson one of the most talented play
Speaker 6: callers in the NFL at this stage of his career,
Speaker 6: the staff that he's putting together, and ever we all
Speaker 6: know what Dennis Allen has done in his past, and
Speaker 6: we know a lot about Richard High tower. I'm excited
Speaker 6: to see what the future holds.
Speaker 1: Tom, I'm calling it a staff with substance. Would you
Speaker 1: say that's a fair representation one hundred percent?
Speaker 6: Of course it's a staff with substance, because, like we've mentioned,
Speaker 6: is the ladders that they had to climb if they
Speaker 6: didn't have playing in their background. But then if you
Speaker 6: have playing in your background, everything you are able to
Speaker 6: learn and how you can transfer that information to the
Speaker 6: playing groups that you're coaching. Listen, Listen, I'm super excited
Speaker 6: because we're not only talking about a coaching staff. We're
Speaker 6: talking about a coaching staff that comes to a team
Speaker 6: that has a franchise.
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Speaker 2: Welcome, thank you. How does this feel? How does Chicago
Speaker 2: Bears feel?
Speaker 3: Feels good? Yeah, excited to be here and excited to
Speaker 3: be a part of it.
Speaker 1: And what about the history you roll in here? George
Speaker 1: Howise statue greenya, I mean do you embrace that?
Speaker 3: You know, growing up in the Midwest, obviously very aware
Speaker 3: of the history of the Chicago Bears and kind of
Speaker 3: the weight of that and the fan base and all that,
Speaker 3: and it's pretty surreal you walk in here, and it's
Speaker 3: what brings you to a place like this.
Speaker 2: Right, because not every franchise has it totally. Some do
Speaker 2: totally a lot, don't yep.
Speaker 1: Relationship with Ben Johnson, How did that all come about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so funny story. At three years ago, I actually
Speaker 3: interviewed for the tight end job in Detroit and I
Speaker 3: was I was an offensive assistant in New Orleans.
Speaker 5: I went in and I had worked.
Speaker 3: For Dan Campbell in New Orleans, like directly underneath him,
Speaker 3: and so I felt good about the situation and kind
Speaker 3: of going in there did the interview. Ben kind of
Speaker 3: led it that was going to be his first year
Speaker 3: as a coordinator, and I felt like I did well.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm looking around at the room and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, the rest of this room
Speaker 3: is going to feel like I got this job.
Speaker 5: Ben was.
Speaker 3: Ben was very challenging to interview with, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I think that guy doesn't like me. So I actually
Speaker 3: left the room and I was like, I think everybody
Speaker 3: in this room would say like, hey, you know this guy,
Speaker 3: this guy should be the guy, except for Ben. I
Speaker 3: was like, Ben, I think he hates me. He actually
Speaker 3: reached out to me, you know, I ended up not
Speaker 3: getting the job. He reaches out to me, you know,
Speaker 3: shortly after that, and we kind of got together at
Speaker 3: the combine and had some coffee, and we've maintained a
Speaker 3: relationship since then. Obviously have followed him in Detroit and
Speaker 3: watched the success that he's had, certainly somebody that I'm
Speaker 3: really really excited to work directly with, but really just
Speaker 3: kind of had that, like, you know, a little bit
Speaker 3: of a mentor relationship from the side, stayed in contact
Speaker 3: and obviously very excited for his opportunity here as well.
Speaker 3: When I found out he was coming here.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, obviously said something right and then yeah right,
Speaker 1: maybe not right then, but you definitely did.
Speaker 2: How would you describe Ben?
Speaker 3: Ben is very detailed, smart, He's intentional with the way
Speaker 3: he talks to people. He has very very little ego.
Speaker 3: When I talk to him, I feel like I'm talking
Speaker 3: to a peer, even though he may be one of
Speaker 3: the best play callers in football right now. You know,
Speaker 3: I think that he is driven by the right things,
Speaker 3: and that is the relationship with the people, players, the
Speaker 3: other coaches. You know, when I look at Ben, he's
Speaker 3: somebody that I looked at even you know, after interviewing
Speaker 3: with him three years ago, and I looked at him
Speaker 3: as you know, it's hard to find mentors in this business,
Speaker 3: and you look at him and you're like, I want
Speaker 3: to be like that guy, just really really excited to
Speaker 3: be here with him.
Speaker 1: Does that make the collaborative process easier than for you
Speaker 1: because you've been looking up to this guy? In a sense,
Speaker 1: I think, so you guys are also smart guys, both
Speaker 1: of you. Do you make this offense then a reflection
Speaker 1: of I think.
Speaker 3: The offense is a reflection of all of us, you know, Ben,
Speaker 3: certainly the players and then the staff that's going to
Speaker 3: be assembled. It kind of becomes, you know, all of
Speaker 3: ours put together. And you know, we're certainly very early
Speaker 3: in that process and we'll start to hammer out that work.
Speaker 3: I'm really excited to work with him, and I think
Speaker 3: the collaborati process is going to be great.
Speaker 2: How would you describe your philosophy?
Speaker 3: We didn't talk a ton about you know, you know,
Speaker 3: what he believes or what I believe. I believe that,
Speaker 3: you know, the offense has to be physical, and it
Speaker 3: starts with being physical upfront, physical with the ball in
Speaker 3: your hands, violent run after catch, team, being one of
Speaker 3: the best perimeter blocking units in football. I think that
Speaker 3: that's really going to be important with you know, establishing
Speaker 3: who we are here. I believe in, you know, an
Speaker 3: offense that's very detailed. You know, you're always trying to
Speaker 3: attack the eleven brains on defense. You're trying to attack
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator, find ways to stress them and figure
Speaker 3: out the rules and then stress their rules. And you know,
Speaker 3: that was something I was exposed to around coach Peyton
Speaker 3: obviously in New Orleans and Denver, and it's why you
Speaker 3: stay up all night, you know, trying to figure out,
Speaker 3: you know how are they gonna defend us? And what
Speaker 3: can we do to you know, make their lives a
Speaker 3: little bit more challenging. And then lastly, you know, you
Speaker 3: gotta find ways to be explosive. You gotta find ways
Speaker 3: to get the ball to your best players in space,
Speaker 3: uh and put your players in position to have success,
Speaker 3: whatever that may be. And Ben said it, he said,
Speaker 3: you know, this isn't a drop the playbook and you know,
Speaker 3: just recreate what he did in Detroit. It's got to
Speaker 3: be based around the players. It's got to be a
Speaker 3: base around the personnel that you have. And I think
Speaker 3: that you know, over the next you know, six months
Speaker 3: and into this this first season, we're going to kind
Speaker 3: of see, you know, what that is and who we
Speaker 3: want to be.
Speaker 1: You're been trying Haydn's backyard. I grew up in Naperville,
Speaker 1: just west to Hear Right. How would you describe that
Speaker 1: experience with Sean?
Speaker 3: Yes, I would say that transformational is how I would say.
Speaker 3: He is somebody that has had a huge impact in
Speaker 3: my life. He's pulled me from relative anonymity twice. He
Speaker 3: gave me my first job in the NFL when I
Speaker 3: was twenty two years old. I had coached at IOWA
Speaker 3: for three seasons as a student and kind of done
Speaker 3: some work there. And Joe Brady left and he went
Speaker 3: to LSU, and so that job opened up and I
Speaker 3: was able to interview for it and I got it.
Speaker 3: I spent four years in New Orleans, three under Sean.
Speaker 3: That was outstanding. I mean that I described that I
Speaker 3: have a middle brother who went to Harvard, and I
Speaker 3: described that as you know my Harvard experience, you know,
Speaker 3: earning a PhD in football. You know. Then moving forward,
Speaker 3: Sean goes to Denver and I'm able to go with him.
Speaker 3: He elevated me and allowed me to be a position coach.
Speaker 3: But I have so much respect for coach Peyton, and
Speaker 3: you know what he built in New Orleans and then
Speaker 3: you know what he's beginning to build in Denver. Obviously,
Speaker 3: being able to be there for the beginning of it
Speaker 3: is a really special thing.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: So your experience with bo Nicks, Yeah, we spring up,
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: You know what is the key in developing a young quarterback?
Speaker 2: In your opinion, First.
Speaker 3: And foremost, it's about the processing ability, fitting the offense
Speaker 3: to the player. And so I would describe that like
Speaker 3: the quarterback is a processor. There are physical tools that
Speaker 3: are required to do the job, but he's the leader
Speaker 3: of the offense. He is he is the processor. And
Speaker 3: if you look at a phone, okay, like the computer
Speaker 3: processor behind that. Drew Brees was an iPhone twenty five
Speaker 3: when I was there, Okay, he was way beyond I
Speaker 3: think the most important thing is you fit it and
Speaker 3: don't ask the guy to do anything that is beyond
Speaker 3: him yet. I think it's a process. I think all
Speaker 3: of that is earned and I think, you know, we
Speaker 3: got to do a really good job of fitting this
Speaker 3: thing to him. It was the same with Bo. When
Speaker 3: Bo came in, we had to shape it around him
Speaker 3: and his skill set. You know, Caleb has a very
Speaker 3: unique skill set that's that's different than Bo's, and so
Speaker 3: it's going to be about evaluating, you know, how he plays,
Speaker 3: and then being able to build in schemes and ask
Speaker 3: him to do things and with the operation that are
Speaker 3: going to fit him.
Speaker 1: Still yet to come, what else is on the roster.
Speaker 1: But you intrigued with the talent at the skill.
Speaker 2: Positions, yes, very much.
Speaker 3: So. Obviously followed Dj Moore while he was in Carolina
Speaker 3: and saw a ton of crossover tape when I was
Speaker 3: in New Orleans. He's somebody that I've admired from Afar
Speaker 3: coaching the tight end position co comet, very impressive. You know,
Speaker 3: he's somebody that probably hasn't He's a little bit, you know, overlooked.
Speaker 3: I would say he absolutely has value in both the
Speaker 3: running the past. Huge fan of him and from Afar.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously Rome very talented. The backs, you know,
Speaker 3: you get Swift and and some of those guys. There's
Speaker 3: a ton of pieces here that are really exciting.
Speaker 2: I didn't know about this. They told me to ask you.
Speaker 2: There were Twitter reports that you were related to Mike
Speaker 2: Dick g.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw this true. That is not true. What
Speaker 3: an honor that would be. I saw that. My brothers
Speaker 3: actually sent me, uh kind of the side by side,
Speaker 3: and I could I could see, I could see the resemblance.
Speaker 3: But no, I am not related to my right.
Speaker 1: One of the first things that stick out is is
Speaker 1: the tailoring of the offense around Caleb's strengths, and Caleb
Speaker 1: is quoted as saying as much over the course of
Speaker 1: his post. Ben Johnson higher that, yeah, it's going to
Speaker 1: be an offense build around my strengths. Something that suits
Speaker 1: me and then built it out from there. How important
Speaker 1: is that?
Speaker 5: Got it?
Speaker 6: You know, first of all, you have to do the
Speaker 6: evaluation of what you consider the strengths of the quarterback
Speaker 6: that you're going to get ready to work with. Then
Speaker 6: you got to think about the pieces you already have
Speaker 6: in place and how that system mentally and physically can
Speaker 6: fit that quarterback into the rest of the players on
Speaker 6: the team. And I'm glad one thing about Declan in
Speaker 6: his interview with you, he didn't just have a complete answer.
Speaker 6: I think there was a question that you ask him,
Speaker 6: he didn't give you an answer, And.
Speaker 5: I like that because it is not that clear cut.
Speaker 6: There's so much evaluation, so much studying, so much time
Speaker 6: to consideration of.
Speaker 5: The different that you have and how you're going to
Speaker 5: use them.
Speaker 6: And then you think of the tree that he grew
Speaker 6: up with, you know, between Ben Johnson, between Sean Payton.
Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't an obvious hire the first time
Speaker 6: he met Ben Johnson, but bo Ben Johnson wasn't impressed
Speaker 6: by what he showed him as a young person and
Speaker 6: then being involved in coaching since he's been twenty two
Speaker 6: years old. Right, my gosh, we won the Super Bowl
Speaker 6: when I was twenty four years old, and I think
Speaker 6: of a guy, you know, two years younger than me
Speaker 6: at that point already being involved in coaching. Man, there's
Speaker 6: so much you can learn on your way up that
Speaker 6: coaching ladder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says, he's already had a decade of some
Speaker 1: sort of coaching experience. And that question was what was
Speaker 1: going to be the message to the fans who've been
Speaker 1: thirsting for an offensive and he goes, no, get to work,
Speaker 1: And that seems to be the philosophy here.
Speaker 2: You mentioned trees too.
Speaker 1: We talk about it all the time, and just going
Speaker 1: through all the offensive hires, some have not been officially announced,
Speaker 1: but you talk about a few that already have Dan Campbell,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Doug Peterson. That's just to name
Speaker 1: a few. So what I get out of that, though,
Speaker 1: is the impact of the running game, A power running game,
Speaker 1: ball control. Obviously, there's going to be the ball is
Speaker 1: going to be in the air with a quarterback like
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. But you know, Ben Johnson values, he said
Speaker 1: he values the impact of a running game. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: efficient offense, run game. What do you think when I
Speaker 1: throw all those names at you because they're all linked
Speaker 1: in some way.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's a variety of different types of influences
Speaker 6: in all the background of every one of those guys.
Speaker 6: But I think the importance of a running game in
Speaker 6: football is what dictates the variety of things you can
Speaker 6: do on the offensive side of the ball, because you
Speaker 6: can't run play action passing that is super deceptive if
Speaker 6: you can't run the ball, because the opponent gives you
Speaker 6: no respect. So if that is your number one priority,
Speaker 6: then that is going to be the foundation of your offense.
Speaker 5: And that's the first thing you're going.
Speaker 6: To install to have the all the other elements within
Speaker 6: an offense. And then when you talk about guys like
Speaker 6: Cole and DJ and Rome and DeAndre and all the
Speaker 6: other guys that you can mention Roshan and stuff, and
Speaker 6: you have to have that base. You have to have
Speaker 6: that one element that is going to be the ignition
Speaker 6: switch to your offense. And so when you think about
Speaker 6: the priority of the running game with a guy like
Speaker 6: Dan Campbell, you think the variety of the passing game
Speaker 6: with Andy Reid and where he came from the Lovell
Speaker 6: Edwards system, and you think of a guy like.
Speaker 2: Sean Payton at Bill Parcells.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and and how you amass all those varieties of
Speaker 6: the elements of successful offensive football.
Speaker 5: And then how you kind of gather them and then.
Speaker 6: Put him into one system that best suits Caleb and
Speaker 6: the rest of the weapons they have here. If you
Speaker 6: make offensive running the ball your priority, you're going to
Speaker 6: open up a lot of other windows of success.
Speaker 1: And then you go back Andy Reid being on that
Speaker 1: Green Bay staff. Andy was with Mike Holmgren. I mean,
Speaker 1: they ran the football too. Despite all those great they
Speaker 1: ran the football.
Speaker 6: But so Andy Reid was an offensive tackle at BYU
Speaker 6: when Jim McMahon was the quarterback. There was a game
Speaker 6: where Jim McMahon threw the ball seventy three times. So
Speaker 6: as much as Andy Reid has been able to take
Speaker 6: quarterbacks throughout his career and never lose sight of the
Speaker 6: importance of the running game, but always having a variety
Speaker 6: of attacks for the passing game, it does go back
Speaker 6: to his foundation. But even though the foundation was throwing
Speaker 6: the ball, the foundation is really running the ball.
Speaker 1: What impact and role can Decklan Doyle play in helping
Speaker 1: craft the game plan and help craft the scheme that
Speaker 1: the Bears are going to put together heavily influenced, of
Speaker 1: course with Ben Johnson's background in particular in protection, because
Speaker 1: all these coaches they all value getting rid of the
Speaker 1: football quickly and avoiding sex.
Speaker 2: That's instrumental.
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's the variety of information you already
Speaker 6: have at your disposal, with all the film of every
Speaker 6: one of the games from this past season that Caleb
Speaker 6: is already played in. Now, if you're just right there
Speaker 6: now taking the draft in consideration and see what quarterback
Speaker 6: you're going to draft, and then you got to kind
Speaker 6: of feel him out a little bit and see how
Speaker 6: he digests that the information that you're feeding him every day.
Speaker 6: You can go back and you can look at game
Speaker 6: one to game seventeen and look at the improvements that
Speaker 6: Caleb had.
Speaker 5: Made throughout the season.
Speaker 6: So now you can take your own background and you
Speaker 6: can say, Okay, this is what he really does well.
Speaker 6: This is where his athleticism fits my system the best.
Speaker 6: This is what he can do to make sure that
Speaker 6: he can move safeties or move defensive backs around the
Speaker 6: field with his eyes. And then even when Declan says, look,
Speaker 6: we have a real asset here in Cole Comet, and
Speaker 6: we're going to be able to use him in a
Speaker 6: variety of ways, and he's going to be a part
Speaker 6: of our offensive package. You know, that's one thing that
Speaker 6: he's already recognized just by what he've seen, but having
Speaker 6: that information at his disposal of Caleb is probably the
Speaker 6: most important element to expedite the installation of this offense.
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Speaker 1: bo Nix, whom Declan Doyle or worked with obviously on
Speaker 1: that offense as the tight ends coach in Denver with
Speaker 1: the Sean Payton sacked just twenty four times last season,
Speaker 1: So that's a guy who got rid of the football quickly.
Speaker 1: So that's something to keep an eye on how that
Speaker 1: fits with the Bears. He was an offensive assistant in
Speaker 1: New Orleans four years, three hunder Sean Payton and one
Speaker 1: under the Bears defensive coordinator Dennis Allen, who was the
Speaker 1: head coach of the Saints the last three years and
Speaker 1: former Raiders coach from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen. So
Speaker 1: valuable resources here, that's what we can keep talking about
Speaker 1: a lot of valuable resources, including from a defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: for the head coach.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad you brought that up because it just
Speaker 6: brought a thought back of mind because when you talk
Speaker 6: about the analogy of Drew Brees and he says, you know,
Speaker 6: Drew Brees is an iPhone twenty five, a smartphone twenty five,
Speaker 6: and that's almost incapable for a lot of us that
Speaker 6: have been around in football to just think how intelligent
Speaker 6: and how developed he was mentally in the game of football.
Speaker 5: But now you go the opposite end of the spectrum.
Speaker 6: You have an iPhone twenty five to a modern, up
Speaker 6: to date iPhone. When you talk about a young quarterback
Speaker 6: they had in Denver and what you have in Caleb.
Speaker 6: So now you're trying to see what is the end
Speaker 6: what can the end result be of a quarterback when
Speaker 6: you install this information over a period of time.
Speaker 5: So I think you kind of have a chance to.
Speaker 6: Look at the big picture of what a quarterback can
Speaker 6: be having the experience of being around Drew Brees, and
Speaker 6: look how it starts. When you have a quarter you
Speaker 6: have a chance to be around a couple rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: So I think that experience right there is as valuable
Speaker 6: as anything that you can ever learn in football.
Speaker 1: All right, So, reportedly the Bears are hiring and the
Speaker 1: offensive line Dan Roschar with Tulane twenty three to twenty four,
Speaker 1: but a decade with his Saints. He's in Northern Illinois
Speaker 1: grad worked with Drew Brees at a key time when
Speaker 1: that offensive line was one of the best in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to learn more about him. There's
Speaker 1: a lot He's got forty years of coaching experience, Tommy.
Speaker 6: You know, I've already talked to a couple of offensive
Speaker 6: line coaches around the NFL that know a lot about him,
Speaker 6: and the glowing remarks that they set about him, his
Speaker 6: work ethic, his attention to his attention to details in
Speaker 6: terms of fundamentals.
Speaker 5: And techniques is super encouraging.
Speaker 6: So without ever without ever having met him, I'm excited
Speaker 6: about what I hear from other experienced NFL offensive line
Speaker 6: coaches that brag about the quality of coach he can be,
Speaker 6: because we're not going to fool anybody the you know,
Speaker 6: the improvements that need to be made on this football
Speaker 6: team are from the inside out. And if you can
Speaker 6: take the talent and develop this offense and defensive line,
Speaker 6: you're talking about, like Ben Johnson said, we're here to
Speaker 6: win immediately, and you're talking about competing for a division.
Speaker 1: Year one could be a major title shift just because
Speaker 1: the offense and defensive line improve and become more productive
Speaker 1: and efficient correct.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent.
Speaker 6: And the experience to get into the mind of these
Speaker 6: offense and defensive linemen, you know, compliment the offseason with
Speaker 6: the weight room and then bring it on to the
Speaker 6: competitiveness of the practice field. You know, it's it's going
Speaker 6: to be interesting to watch the competition, especially when you
Speaker 6: bring in a new position coach, and how all these
Speaker 6: guys try to earn their stripes.
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So many interesting angles here, but I'm going to start
Speaker 1: with not the quarterbacks town, which is always the case,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts of Philadelphia, of course, Patrick holhomes Kansas City.
Speaker 1: This is going to be Steve Smagnolo, the outstanding defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator outstanding the playoffs annually for Kansas City. And Vic Fangier,
Speaker 1: our old friend here from the Bears, is the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles defensive coordinator. The game plans that they're going to
Speaker 1: come up with. I just can't wait to watch what
Speaker 1: they have in store for these two offenses.
Speaker 2: I'm going to begin there. How do you look at
Speaker 2: that matchup?
Speaker 6: You know, I really like the defense of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 6: I think when you look at where they start, it
Speaker 6: is upfront. They have players that have been healthy and
Speaker 6: playing a good brand of football all year, and they
Speaker 6: have some guys coming back for the Super Bowl that
Speaker 6: have been on the injured list now for a few weeks.
Speaker 6: So when I think of Vic Fangio in what he's
Speaker 6: capable of doing, I do think that he can challenge
Speaker 6: the offense of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 5: But Spagnola, he.
Speaker 6: Is a good football coach and there's no doubt about it. However,
Speaker 6: now when you're playing in a neutral atmosphere, you don't
Speaker 6: have that crowd noise of Kansas City to make your
Speaker 6: offensive line dysfunctional. And then when you look at the
Speaker 6: offensive line of the Philadelphia Eagles, even though they're banged
Speaker 6: up a little bit, I think it evens out that
Speaker 6: match a little bit.
Speaker 5: And so I.
Speaker 6: Think both defensive coordinators are going to have to be creative.
Speaker 6: They're going to have to figure out where their best
Speaker 6: matchups are lie. When you have a guy in Kansas
Speaker 6: City like Chris Jones, you can really do a lot
Speaker 6: with them and take advantage of what you perceive as
Speaker 6: maybe a weakness on the offensive line. Just like with
Speaker 6: Jalen Carter, you can do the same thing with him
Speaker 6: on the defensive line. And where do you preserve, where
Speaker 6: do you perceive be of vulnerability on the offensive line,
Speaker 6: then attack it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I'll make Chris Jones and Jalen Carter run
Speaker 1: sideways as much as possible in the run game, and
Speaker 1: I'll get him plump, tuckered out because that may be
Speaker 1: the only way you run the football successful or get
Speaker 1: the offense going. But will the Eagles run Saquon Barkley
Speaker 1: away from Chris Jones and will the Kansas City offense
Speaker 1: run the ball away from a guy like Jalen Carter.
Speaker 6: Well, when you have a guy like Chris Jones and
Speaker 6: you have a guy like Jalen Carter, it's not necessarily
Speaker 6: that they have to make the tackle, but they can
Speaker 6: cut the field in half. And so if you have
Speaker 6: a running game that maybe have a little bit misdirection,
Speaker 6: a little creativity, a little RPO, and if you have
Speaker 6: a guy like Chris Jones or Jalen Carter that can
Speaker 6: dominate the point of attack and get pressure up field
Speaker 6: into the backfield, now you make the running play one dimensional.
Speaker 6: And so now you've got ten guys chasing the point
Speaker 6: of attack because of you have the assets of one
Speaker 6: guy like that.
Speaker 1: And the matchups, there's so many Eagles receiver AJ Brown
Speaker 1: against Kansas City's Trent McDuff. They play a lot of
Speaker 1: man coverage, press coverage, so that'll be something to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. And then the two tight ends Dallas
Speaker 1: Goddard against the Kansas City defense aligning the most receiving
Speaker 1: yards to a tight end in the NFL this season,
Speaker 1: and Travis Kelcey one hundred and eighty four targets, nearly
Speaker 1: seven and a half catches per game in his postseason life,
Speaker 1: nineteen touchdowns and ninety seven first downs, and according to
Speaker 1: the next Gen Stats, leads all NFL players in receptions,
Speaker 1: receiving yards, and touchdowns on scramble plays, which Mahomes is
Speaker 1: great at.
Speaker 2: Since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a season that would be worthy of
Speaker 1: very good attention if it was just one season, but
Speaker 1: this is since twenty eighteen, sixty one catches, nine hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty three yards and ten touchdowns.
Speaker 2: What do you think of these matchups?
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not.
Speaker 6: Gonna give Travis Kelcey any freedom. I'm going to challenge
Speaker 6: him at the line of scrimmage. I'm gonna make him
Speaker 6: divert his route. I'm not going to allow him to
Speaker 6: be predictable. If Patrick Mahomes has to scramble, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: make Patrick Mahomes have to cite them and then accurately
Speaker 6: deliver the ball, which he can. But I'm not going
Speaker 6: to make it easy and convenient for Travis. But when
Speaker 6: you look at the other side in the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 6: their main concern is going to be Saquon Barkley, and
Speaker 6: that gives the tight end opportunities from zero to eight
Speaker 6: yards downfield. And so I'm still going to have the
Speaker 6: tight end for the Eagles be a viable option because
Speaker 6: of Saquon Barkley. And I know Kansas City they have
Speaker 6: good running backs, but they don't have anybody that you
Speaker 6: have to be determined to stop. When you go back
Speaker 6: to our Super Bowl, I think Walter Payton had twenty
Speaker 6: two carries for sixty one yards. They were determined to
Speaker 6: stop him. But Willie gald had one hundred and twenty
Speaker 6: nine yards receiving. Emery Moore had had a big game,
Speaker 6: Kenny Marjoram had a big game. Matt Seuwey had a
Speaker 6: big game. So if their intentions is to take something
Speaker 6: or somebody out of the game, you got to think
Speaker 6: where else we can go with it?
Speaker 1: All right, thing at the Super Bowl this week you
Speaker 1: had the State of the Union from Commissioner Roger Goodell
Speaker 1: said that they are definitely going to be looking at
Speaker 1: considering starting professional flag football leagues for both men and women.
Speaker 6: No I saw that they were going to have the
Speaker 6: first women's flag football game at the Peyton Center. The
Speaker 6: Bears release a statement.
Speaker 1: March eighth, Yes, Rockford University against Benedictine University at six fifteen.
Speaker 1: It's a driving force that the Bears have been a
Speaker 1: part of. The flag football statewide has grown significantly from
Speaker 1: a twenty one team high school league in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one to become in the ninth state to sanction the
Speaker 1: sport in twenty twenty four. So it's an historic moment.
Speaker 1: Tanisha Wade, the executive vice president of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion
Speaker 1: and Chief Impact Officer of the Bears, saying, it's an
Speaker 1: historic moment for the growth of girls flag football in
Speaker 1: the state of Illinois.
Speaker 2: Yes, any kind of football, you and I are all in.
Speaker 6: I really want to go to that game too, because
Speaker 6: of the historic relevance to that game, and if I'm
Speaker 6: up and moving and easy to get around, I really
Speaker 6: want to go to that game because and I know
Speaker 6: tanish is going to do a great job, but I
Speaker 6: just I want to go and see that game because
Speaker 6: of I think there's going to be significant importance of
Speaker 6: that game that's going to be talked about forever.
Speaker 1: Yep is you can't stop it now. Flag football is
Speaker 1: going strong. So yes, as much football as you could get,
Speaker 1: man as much and listen.
Speaker 6: I love the inclusion of everybody. That gives everybody an
Speaker 6: outlet to play sports. And I love watching the development
Speaker 6: of you know, anybody playing a new sport. But I'm
Speaker 6: excited to see how you know this is handled by them.
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