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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt it's a Thursday's Super Bowl Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Thursday. How about that him coming down the

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Speaker 2: home stretch here. I'm prettysyched for this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, we're right there. I didn't realize Matt

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Speaker 1: that the NFL honors. Yeah, yeah, thing is tonight.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you're gonna say Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday night. It used to be Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was always sad the day before the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So it's tonight. So we'll find out the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame announcements tonight, although the the Chicago Tribune has already

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Speaker 1: they released the three former Bears.

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Speaker 2: Three former Bears Hester Hester. Oh you're talking about that yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a joke.

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Speaker 2: I think that's insane.

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Speaker 1: There's the other Bears, McMichael and Pepper's.

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Speaker 2: And Pepper's got a cup of coffee at them. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was different, fair amount. It'signed a big contract with Pepper's.

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Speaker 2: We knew McMichael was the senior, and we said this

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Speaker 2: exact same thing yesterday. I was fearing that this would

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Speaker 2: be the year Hester gets in because the group's not

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Speaker 2: that good doesn't mean he should get it.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he should get in.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know if I don't like that at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, going to go over the awards, Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: we were yeah last week? Did they do we get

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Speaker 1: back together tomorrow? Are we talking about two time NFL

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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year TJ Watt? Or are we

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Speaker 1: talking about how he got robbed? All along?

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Speaker 2: I thought he's gonna get robbed, And I think his

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Speaker 2: case got stronger at the end, even though he didn't,

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Speaker 2: even though he got injured. And people have to realize

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Speaker 2: playoffs don't matter for any of this stuff. The votes

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Speaker 2: are already in. But the guys around him, his competition

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Speaker 2: I thought, hurt themselves near the end, especially Garrett. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you said it was one in his last six games,

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Speaker 2: Zach his last six games. So I wonder did all

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Speaker 2: those things help his cause enough to get him in.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's slightly over fifty percent Chancey wins it.

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Speaker 1: I I didn't think. Yeah, I thought he wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to win it. You know the fact that again we

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Speaker 1: went over this, uh this voting last week on NFL

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Their predictions on who winds these Yeah, they all.

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Speaker 2: Got to vote or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they went with their thirty two writers. Obviously they

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Speaker 1: had Lamar winning overwhelmingly winning the MVP MVP and Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey overwhelmingly winning Offensive Player.

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Speaker 2: Although I think Tyreek Hill has a case, but he

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Speaker 2: missed a game or two in there.

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Speaker 1: And what it was, it was close. It was eleven

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Speaker 1: eleven votes to nine votes over Garrett to eight votes

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Speaker 1: over pars for Parsons, but he get them. He got

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Speaker 1: the majority of the votes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think there is more and more steam

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Speaker 2: just even just based off numbers. It's his, but it

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Speaker 2: doesn't always work that way. And I do think because

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Speaker 2: we've talked about all season, there's been a sentiment coming

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Speaker 2: into the year that Scarrett's turn, it's his year, you know,

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Speaker 2: to hear that crowd, I think that's garbage. But I

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Speaker 2: mean bean hearing that since the beginning of the you know,

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Speaker 2: before the seasons, nobody.

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Speaker 1: Said any of that. When when Aaron Donald was winning

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them. Nobody said that, when when JJ

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Speaker 1: Watt was winning a bunch of them.

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Speaker 2: In next years, it could be Michael Parsons turn, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean that's that doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Make any award to who deserves the ward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, don't predetermine anything, you know, I did like

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Speaker 2: the idea of oh Schwartz is there that you know

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Speaker 2: gives him a better opportunity. There's more around them defensive

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Speaker 2: line wise. Great, that's all true. I mean, surroundings absolutely matter.

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Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I mean, I hadn't thought of

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Speaker 2: this angle until weeks ago when you said it for

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Speaker 2: the first time. I think Crosby's has a better case

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Speaker 2: than most of these guys. Yeah, yeah, second best case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he would be the only other guy

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Speaker 2: He's got no chance. He's a great year, a great year.

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Speaker 2: He plays more snaps than all those guys, he has

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Speaker 2: less around him, and he was equally as effective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he would be the only one if if if

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby won it, and Jade what didn't, he would

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Speaker 2: Okay, I get it, I get it. Yeah, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Who are the five? One of them's.

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Speaker 1: Bland, Yeah, one of them is to Umbreland.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder if that hurts Parsons by one

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Speaker 1: Well, and this one, you know, Parsons got eight votes,

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Speaker 1: which watch out eleven. Bland got two, which I think

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Speaker 1: he should get none. He should, I'm with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just again, this is this is the Devin Hester argument exactly. Well,

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Speaker 1: he scored a bunch of touchdowns, he did.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 1: Everybody targeted game, right. Yeah, he's not a complete football player.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not nearly the impact player. These guys are.

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Speaker 2: Like if Rokuan or Fred Warner was on that list,

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Speaker 2: I get it, you know, I mean right right, they

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Speaker 2: do different things than these edge dudes, but they're elite

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Speaker 1: And that would land that to me. You know, when

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Speaker 1: when the people were putting the argument out there, Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett's the best defensive player on the best defense. The

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Speaker 1: Browns don't have the best defense, right right, Baltimore had

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Speaker 1: the best defense.

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Speaker 1: If Justin Matta book Oka was on this list, I

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Speaker 1: would understand. I would understand understand it, Like, boy, you

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Speaker 1: had a tremendous year.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know he was before Smith.

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Speaker 1: Was on that list, I'd get it. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm hundre percent with you, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of great candidates this year, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: in terms of who's that fifth guy or Bosa didn't

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Speaker 2: have as good a year as he did last year. Garrett,

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Speaker 2: to me, is not an MVP level.

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Speaker 1: If Fred Warner had been on this list, I'd have

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Speaker 1: gotten it, I said, Warner broquand those type of guys

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Speaker 2: I get that, but I don't know. I think Wat's

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Speaker 2: got a really good chance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The rest of it I think is pretty much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we know Joey Porter Junior is also up for the

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Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year word. I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get it. Yeah, he just didn't.

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Speaker 1: I think if he had like two more picks.

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Speaker 2: I said, an interception or two would have gone a

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Speaker 2: long way. One more highlight take it to the house

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Speaker 2: to on Bland play you know, Okay, you know, but

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Speaker 2: he was little.

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Speaker 1: Because he's everything that. He's the exact opposite of Bland, Right.

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Speaker 1: People don't throw at people, don't throw at them, and

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Speaker 1: when they do, they don't complete the passes when you throw.

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Speaker 1: When you throw a Bland pland doesn't follow number ones, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, by any means it's the ever some wall.

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Speaker 1: He's the ever remember of the year ever some walls

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Speaker 1: led to Lady like fourteen in eighties.

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Speaker 2: Yeeah. Yeah, a great year he's had because everybody threw it.

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Speaker 2: So they also have a great pass rush, which helps

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Speaker 2: Bland as well. And I know it means more to

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Speaker 2: take an interception to the house, but it doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: mean it was a more difficult or better play. I

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Speaker 2: mean there's sometimes you pick it off there's no one

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Speaker 2: that's great. You created six points, seven points for your team,

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Speaker 2: and that's very very important. But that doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 2: a noticeably better player than Jalen Ramsey screaming across the field.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Peters argument, Yeah, yeakay. If I if I jump

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Speaker 1: every out that's ever thrown at me, yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: because there's nobody there.

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Speaker 2: If I'm jumping a quick out, the quick out and

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Speaker 2: I'm jumping in it, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get I don't think I bite on that

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Speaker 1: my head right if.

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Speaker 2: He already keep throwing at me, Yeah, and then I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna end up with more picks. They have more touchdowns

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Speaker 2: and more volume.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The Porter didn't have any of that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think one that was it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think his competition is super strong, But I

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Speaker 2: really have little inkling that he's gonna end up with

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Speaker 2: the award.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if it came down to him or

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Speaker 1: Devon Witherspoon.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think they're very equal. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they both had really good years. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: i'd trade Porter for Witherspoon right this minute, but they're

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Speaker 2: both in the same neighborhood. All these Rookie of the

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Speaker 1: Dude, like I would vote for Kobe Turner for Defensive

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Speaker 2: I bet he doesn't get it.

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Speaker 1: He probably won't win it because he was a six

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it took a month before anyone knew

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Speaker 2: who he was. I think Anderson will win that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Houston's an easy team to root for. He's

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Speaker 2: an early pick, high character guy. Competition is not real strong,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I saw a thing I think it was on ESPN

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Speaker 1: where they redrafted the first two rounds of this year's drafts.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to go through the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but they they'd be several Steelers picked.

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Speaker 1: They were three picks. Yeah, okay in those first round,

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Speaker 1: which the Steelers had higher, but they were all in

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Speaker 2: I bet they three top thirty two rookies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but the one they had Christian and Zalez

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Speaker 1: Zalez was was good play well yeah, but he played

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Speaker 1: four games. Yeah, like I.

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Speaker 2: Can understand it though, I mean, if you like them more,

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna trash Porter because well he didn't become

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Speaker 1: a starter until midway through the season. Yeah, how can

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Speaker 1: you put a guy on there then it only started

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Speaker 1: four games to say he was better than Porter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're saying. He's better than Porter.

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Speaker 2: I think they'd say they'd rather have them than Porter. That,

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Speaker 2: you know, because like Bryce Young, I bet was still

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Speaker 2: in the top thirty two.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't believe he was.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I assumed it's still get if they drafted today,

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Speaker 2: So somebody would pick him in the top thirty two.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's good. I wouldn't have taken him

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Speaker 2: like did Levis go. I mean, I hope like O'Connell

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Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers might want to nominate somebody else too, right.

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Speaker 2: They've got other else do in tremendous work too, right.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the past winners of the Walter

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Speaker 2: And not going to get in, but it was really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you get to wear that patch the

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow, maybe it's Watton Ayward, that would be something I

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Speaker 2: They don't know the man. They don't so we'll know,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean I'm sure people do know the

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Speaker 1: Anyways, let's take a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lallie. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to the drive. I'm Dale Lalli.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt Maurice Jones. Drew

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Speaker 2: Season season, kind of like the run to the quarterback runs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah reference.

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Speaker 1: So in this one though, the running Back Index, he

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Speaker 1: ranked all seventy two starting running backs from the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three season, not starting anyone who played, anybody who

443
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Speaker 1: started a game.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, now I'm wow. Okay, so he has made sense.

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Speaker 1: He has Jalen Warren in here. Okay, Jalen Warren didn't

446
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Speaker 1: start a single game this year.

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Speaker 2: He ranked seventy two backs. Warren better be one of

448
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Speaker 2: the seventy two. Yeah, but he was.

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Speaker 1: Never the frow I can remember there was, but I

450
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Speaker 1: don't know. Midway through the season there was a home

451
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Speaker 1: game and Jalm Warren was announced as a starter along

452
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Speaker 1: with Nausea Harris.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and he didn't play the first play the game.

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Speaker 1: Somebody somebody posted out there, you know, Jaylen Warren is

455
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Speaker 1: supplanted Nag Harris. This is the starting run like.

456
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Speaker 2: The fantasy sites.

457
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not what happened, not at all.

458
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Speaker 2: Gotcha. I scrolled you sent me this, and I scrolled

459
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Speaker 2: down just to see where the first stealer was at.

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Speaker 2: I didn't read any of them. I didn't pay a

461
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Speaker 2: whole lot of attention, So maybe I'll regret saying this.

462
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Speaker 2: But I respect MJD a lot more as a player

463
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Speaker 2: than analysts. Yeah, he was a really good player and

464
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Speaker 2: a really good back, but I rarely agree with his

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Speaker 2: running background.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 1: I don't typically either, but I thought it'd be interesting

468
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Speaker 1: just to see why. Yeah. Yeah, just stealer guys rank

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Speaker 1: So he's Christian McCaffrey number one.

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Speaker 2: That's easy used to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no argument there. At number two he is kieran.

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Speaker 2: Real quick christ McCaffrey, you Hall of famer. I think

473
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Speaker 2: he's making a heck of a case.

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Speaker 1: Maybe more years another year or two year? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he has Karen Williams two.

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Speaker 2: I can't go there. A great year. Rankings are funny

477
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Speaker 2: to me because who had the best year and who's

478
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Speaker 2: the best football player aren't always the same thing. I

479
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Speaker 2: don't know what he's doing here, so I'll give him

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Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if he says Okay. The twenty twenty three

482
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Speaker 1: NFL campaign culminates a Sunday, once again tackling the mountainous

483
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Speaker 1: test of ranking every running back who started the game.

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Speaker 1: This is just his pecking order, how.

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Speaker 2: He fails, just how good they are. Yeah, I don't

486
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Speaker 2: think the second best back.

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Speaker 1: In the league. He has Derrick Henry three.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's the third best back in league anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good year.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I think he's gonna go to

491
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Speaker 2: another team, a contender and be very helpful.

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Speaker 1: Now he is a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah, from this generation, I think

494
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Speaker 2: he's one of the easiest ones.

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Speaker 1: At four. He has raheem Mostert ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Production, but he doesn't blow me away as a ball carrier.

497
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Speaker 2: And he's not a great receiver. I mean all prefaces.

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Speaker 2: This also is not a phenomenal running back group. I

499
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Speaker 2: mean there's not Trubb got hurt, and guys like Jacobs

500
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Speaker 2: are slowing down a little, and you know.

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Speaker 1: Those guys have to be ranked Onmando.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know the class of running backs at

503
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Speaker 2: this current Setecon is at its strongest it's been lately.

504
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Speaker 1: At five, he as James Cook.

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Speaker 2: None of these are sitting well. I mean he's a

506
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Speaker 2: good player, and he was productive, but he's not a

507
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Speaker 2: tackle breaker and he's not a workhorse.

508
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Speaker 1: At six, he as bres Hall.

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Speaker 2: If he stays healthy. I think he's two. It's a

510
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Speaker 2: big if though, Yeah, I mean in terms of like

511
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Speaker 2: talent and on their best day, nothing around him. Maybe

512
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Speaker 2: not two, but close.

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Speaker 1: At seventy is James Connor.

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Speaker 2: He had a great year. I don't have a problem

515
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Speaker 2: with that. I mean, like, would I rather have Connor

516
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Speaker 2: or Nausea going forward? That's not the question. But Connor

517
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Speaker 2: did a lot on his own this year. It really

518
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Speaker 2: really played well.

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Speaker 1: In a vague if you could guarantee me that James

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Speaker 1: Connor could play seventeen games, oh yeah, I'm all in.

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked.

522
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Speaker 1: You can't do that because every year he misses three

523
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Speaker 1: or four games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And terability aside, I'm shocked he's as effective as

525
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Speaker 2: he is now on his best days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

527
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Speaker 2: I mean he's been in the league a long time.

528
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Speaker 2: I mean that class, that class is starting to tail

529
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Speaker 2: off heavy.

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Speaker 1: At eight, he has David Montgomery.

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Speaker 2: Really good season, but you have Montgomery or Gibbs. Though

532
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Speaker 2: Montgomery's better early in the year.

533
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Speaker 1: Montgomery such a tough runner.

534
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Speaker 2: He is. I'm a fan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Gibbs moves at a crazy level. Thing he does

536
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Speaker 1: he does at nine. DeAndre Swift, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he did a lot on his own, fine,

538
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Speaker 2: but i'd have him spots lower.

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Speaker 1: At ten is Jumior Gibbs, I understand that completely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Eleven Rashad White M.

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Speaker 2: I kind of respect that. I don't think he's a

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Speaker 2: great player.

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Speaker 1: But fifteen total yards this year.

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Speaker 2: It catches a ton of balls and no other help

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Speaker 2: in the backfield there. I mean, he's a total running

547
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Speaker 2: game for those guys. He's better than I thought.

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Speaker 1: Twelve. No, g Harris cool.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we can have the conversation Warren

550
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Speaker 2: versus Harris, you know. But I respect him putting Harris there,

551
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Speaker 2: and I think he's coming off his best year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen Travis ATM scares me a little, but he's dangerous.

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Speaker 2: I wish he was a better receiver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hit fifty eight catches this past year, but there

556
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Speaker 1: are a lot of dumps. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a misconception because he's fast, he was

558
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Speaker 2: a first round pick, that he's this route runner.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that I would look this is. He

560
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Speaker 1: had over three hundred touches this year, like I would

561
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Speaker 1: look at that a little bit like, is he going

562
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Speaker 1: to fall back a little bit more next year.

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Speaker 2: I was hesitant to bring this up, but I do

564
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Speaker 2: a Dynasty podcast once a week now, and one of

565
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Speaker 2: the questions for me was, who's the highly ranked Dynasty

566
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Speaker 2: player you're most afraid of. I picked him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like actually three hundred and twenty five

568
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Speaker 1: touches on the nose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I mean they they drafted Tanks Bigsby

570
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Speaker 2: high for a reason. Biggsby was just terrible. Yeah, So

571
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Speaker 2: I don't think I think they know that he's yeah,

572
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Speaker 2: maybe on walking on an eggshells.

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Speaker 1: And he averaged three point eight yards of carry.

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Speaker 2: Long ones mixed again, right, I mean it's not as

575
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Speaker 2: good as you think. He started the year hot and

576
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Speaker 2: then fizzled.

577
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Speaker 1: Fizzled fourteen Joe Mixon, I think he's.

578
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Speaker 2: Close to being shot. To be honest with you, I

579
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Speaker 2: think they'll cut him to save some bucks to give

580
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Speaker 2: the Higgins.

581
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did have a pretty gay good year.

582
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, this is a third year in a

583
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Speaker 2: row with Nause that he's created what thirteen hundred scrimming

584
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: yards or more. They're the only two in the league.

585
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Speaker 2: I mean there's some consistency there.

586
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Speaker 1: H Fifteen Bijon Robinson.

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Speaker 2: He'd be way higher for me, but I understand having

588
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Speaker 2: him there. I mean, just how good a football player

589
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Speaker 2: you are. He'd be second.

590
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Speaker 1: Sixteen Saquon Barkley, he'd be higher too, Yeah, Seventeen Isaiah Pacheco.

591
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: Like Barkley's better than moster.

592
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, as is Bijon Robinson. Yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah,

593
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Speaker 1: Seventeen Isaiah Pachecko.

594
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Speaker 2: I had a hard time coming around on him too,

595
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: but he's effective. He's really effective. He's fun to fun

596
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Speaker 2: to watch.

597
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Speaker 1: Like Tasmanian. Yeah, there's on fire.

598
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: He's a lunatic spinning yeah right right, Like I'm surprised

599
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: he's still healthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what for you? Bury me in the cold, cold ground.

601
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Speaker 1: Eighteen Tony Pollard.

602
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Speaker 2: Somewhat disappointing year, but when it's all said and done,

603
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Speaker 2: it wasn't a bad statistical season, like six total touchdowns

604
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: that skills you like anyone draft him in fantasy. He's

605
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 2: not happy with him, but so he's lower on the

606
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: list than he would have been, but he's not a workhorse.

607
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Speaker 1: Nineteen Jonathan Taylor m tough one.

608
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Speaker 2: To rank because I think on his best day he's

609
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Speaker 2: a top five. Don't see many of those lately. Yeah,

610
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: and hold outs and injuries and yeah, well the.

611
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Speaker 1: Colts regret that contract they signed him too. I think

612
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Speaker 1: so probably, I think so. Twenty Gus Edwards.

613
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Speaker 2: I mean he's like a running back's running back, you know,

614
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Speaker 2: like if you block it for four, he gets you five.

615
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: Do you block it for five, he gets you six.

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Speaker 1: He had eight hundred and ten rushing yards this year?

617
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Speaker 2: Did he? I mean Lamar didn't run.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought.

619
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought that either. I mean, Jayleen Warren's

620
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: better than he is. I'm sure there's a lot of

621
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: guys are better than him.

622
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Speaker 1: Twenty one Kenneth Walker, Walker's lot. Kenneth Walker's talented.

623
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean his numbers might not be through the

624
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: roof because he's not a great receiver and Charbonna's there,

625
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: But I'd love him to be on my favorite team,

626
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

627
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Speaker 1: Twenty two Devin a Chan Yeah, I mean he's just scary.

628
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: He's a specialty player.

629
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Speaker 2: He's a specialty player, but he's frightening.

630
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Speaker 1: Twenty three Devin Singletary.

631
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Speaker 2: He's not for me, but I was wrong. I mean,

632
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: there's a couple of these dudes that Pachecko, the Bucks

633
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: dude who we were just talking about. His name escaped

634
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: me that I was never real high on. But I've

635
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: been better than I thought.

636
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Speaker 1: Twenty four Jerome Ford.

637
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Speaker 2: I don't know. If I see that it wasn't bad.

638
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: We'll see who's lower again again, right, I mean, I

639
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: know the bottom twenty are gonna be nobody's twenty five

640
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: Chub Hubbard. Okay, back couple. I think he's a two.

641
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: Twenty six Josh Jacobs. He did not have a good

642
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: year five yards of carrying this year.

643
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I mean he's a hit the market

644
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: and that's the problem.

645
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean again, he was ridiculously used last year, like

646
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: l four hundred touches used.

647
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: Last year and led the league rushing, I think, right.

648
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the touches I think war on

649
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: History shows twenty seven Jalen Warren.

650
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I would have him higher, but I think that's

651
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: a respectable spot for who's the number two? You know,

652
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: yeah that seers are seers and lines going ones with two,

653
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 2: back with two.

654
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty eight Zach Moss.

655
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: Quality year.

656
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Actually if you look at his overall numbers are they're

657
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: kind of better. They're better than tailor.

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00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

659
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: Twenty nine Aaron Jones.

661
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: Who I'd be higher on him still, especially the last

662
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: glimpse of you know, the way he finished the season

663
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: in playoffs. I thought he was really good.

664
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Problem, I know he might be breaking down though.

665
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: He came the league old and he's in that Connor

666
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: McCaffrey class.

667
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

668
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: Thirty Alvin Kamara, speaking of that class.

669
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: Another one like remember he was suspended, right, Yeah, caught

670
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: a million balls from car but really did nothing on

671
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: the ground This year.

672
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: He had seventy five catches for four hundred and sixty

673
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: six yards in one touchdown.

674
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: And they're all for like two yard catches. Yeah, yeah,

675
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of the classes losing it.

676
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: Thirty one Ezekiel Elliott.

677
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: Better than I thought. I mean, he played a good

678
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: game again Steelers, but better than I thought. I thought

679
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: he was kind of shot.

680
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: We haven't seen Ramandre Stevenson on here yet.

681
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: No need a bad year, but Stevenson's better than a

682
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: lot of the guys we've mentioned.

683
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

684
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: Thirty two Brian Robinson.

685
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: I think he's very ordinary, but that's not necessarily bad

686
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: and that's solid.

687
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Can count on it.

688
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: You count on it. But they might draft the back

689
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: or pay one.

690
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: Thirty three Austin Ekelar.

691
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: That's sad but true.

692
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, really bad year. That might be a little.

693
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: Rich, might be a little rich. Like I don't think

694
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: he's going to be back this year. Is he going

695
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: to be a total part time I next year? Old

696
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: man or somebody else, that type of move.

697
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: You know. Thirty four Javonte Williams.

698
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: I don't think he's back all the way.

699
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: I I mean loved him coming out, loved him now,

700
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: I loved him. They never recover from that knee injury.

701
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: No, I might snag him in fantasy for next year though,

702
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: if he's going pretty late.

703
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know which he probably will be. Will be

704
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: the season that he had just because of how much

705
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: I liked him. Uh thirty five or Mandre Stevenson.

706
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: I think he's better than that, but didn't have a

707
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: good year.

708
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: He did not have a good year. I don't know

709
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: how much of that is him and how much of

710
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: that was their quarterback situation, but right, yuck. Yeah, Uh

711
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: thirty six Tyler Algaier.

712
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: Quality player too, Yeah, I have him right there with

713
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: like a Brian Ross.

714
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: That's the thing you know when people talk about and

715
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: we talked about this during the season, like I get

716
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: using still wanting Tyler Algier to have some kind of

717
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: rule because he's, I mean talking about guy who had

718
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: thousand yards two years ago.

719
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: So a couple thoughts on that first, And this says

720
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 2: a lot to do with the Steelers. Obviously coming up,

721
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: the Falcons used Algier and Robinson on the field much

722
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: more than the Steelers used Robinson and Harris on the field,

723
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: So I think that's something you might see more of

724
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: going forward. And I also think the Falcons took somewhat

725
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: of a Steeler's approach with Bijeon early that they wanted

726
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: to stretch because they used them much much more of

727
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: the second half of the year. And I went and

728
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: looked at it after they hired Arthur Smith, Bijon had

729
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: like eight hundred snaps compared to like two fifty for Algier. Yeah,

730
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: so everyone, myself included, I used the first round pick

731
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: in my top league on Bijeon.

732
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: It's the same argument that we were having with Dan Campbell.

733
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're not using Yeah, you.

734
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: Know, when Jamal Williams was in there. It's taking every

735
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: touchdown or whatever.

736
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: Well, they did this past Gibbs with Gibbs. Yeah, oh,

737
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: why aren't they using Gibbs? Why are they using Dave Montgomery?

738
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: Going to rookie backs also need to show they can protect, yeah,

739
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: and their trustworthy. So everyone gets mad at Arthur Smith

740
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: when a Augier or John hu Smith would score a

741
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: touchdown because they have and Bijon in fantasy right, Well,

742
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: it's on his job to feed your fantasy.

743
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: Thirty seven Kareem Hunt, he's just about shot. He's shot.

744
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: He's in that same class.

745
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: He avers three yards of carry, yeah, three yards.

746
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: I mean he was a free agent for a long.

747
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: Average three He got one hundred and thirty five carries

748
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: in average three yards of carry yeah yeah, fifteen catches

749
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: for eighty four yards like yuck.

750
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: I mean, including Zeke and some of these other old dudes.

751
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: If you told me one of the guys we mentioned

752
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: isn't in the league next year, I.

753
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 1: Would he use the guy?

754
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

755
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: Uh thirty eight A J. Dillon not what he used

756
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: to be three point four yards of carry yeah, uh

757
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: thirty nine. Khalil Herbert, I'm still a fan.

758
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: He just didn't do anything this year because he missed

759
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: most of the year.

760
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: Actually played in twelve games, did he Yeah.

761
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: They had also quite the rotation too, did I wonder

762
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: when how much you really got featured?

763
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: But that's so like him forty in this I want

764
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: to pat myself on the back for this one because

765
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't taken him in the draft if he was

766
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: the only back available. Alexander Madison.

767
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I made a couple bucks on Madison under yardage

768
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: this year for lifelong proud. I think he's a boring

769
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: as could be. Yeah, I think he's an average at best.

770
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Number two.

771
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Forty one ty j Spears.

772
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: Arrow going up in a row. Yeah, I mean I

773
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: think he'll be way higher than that next year.

774
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: Forty two Zach Charboney.

775
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: He was okay. I expected a little more on a

776
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: per touch basis, but he was okay. Forty three Ty Chandler,

777
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: he might be better. He was way more effective than Madison. Yeah,

778
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: I mean he was harder to tackle the Madison. He's

779
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: more explosive. Yeah, I think I'd have him higher.

780
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Forty four Julia McLaughlin.

781
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: I wonder if he'll be the Vikings lead back next year.

782
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, Yeah.

783
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: McLaughlin was also pretty explosive. Like mcglocky's tiny tiny I

784
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: just said him and the Ravens dude that got hurt,

785
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: I would have almost the exact same. They're explosive little

786
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: dudes of a hard time Glacklam. They played more though

787
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: he didn't get hurt.

788
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh forty five Nick Chubb.

789
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: Sad, we just cut.

790
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: We just don't know what's right and what's gonna happen.

791
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: Maybe one or two uh forty six Zamir White finish

792
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: the season is wrong. He played back better than Jacobs

793
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: than Jacobs, Yeah, yeah, and it was a decent sample size.

794
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: And the last three or four.

795
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 1: Years, one hundred and four carries, he averaged four point

796
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: three yards per carry. Yeah, Jacobs averaged three point five.

797
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: If he's there starting back next maybe maybe.

798
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: Uh forty seven Deontay Foreman.

799
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: Quality, hard guy to tackle, not special, you know.

800
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: Uh forty eight Keaton Mitchell the afore minutes.

801
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah man, they missed, they missed him a little bit.

802
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: H forty nine Miles Sanders.

803
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: Him and Jacobs are the same draft class, and they

804
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: both really.

805
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: Fell three point three yards of carry like Chewba Hubber.

806
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: He might be a guy like that's available when training

807
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: camp opens.

808
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: You know they signed him to a four year twenty

809
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: five points. God, yeah, boy, that's a bad deal. Fifty

810
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: Justice Hill Okay, yeah yeah. Fifty one Damian Pierce.

811
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: Boy.

812
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: I thought two point nine yards of carry.

813
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: Now had much higher hopes for him. I thought he

814
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 2: was a nice.

815
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: And they can actually throw the football, I know, And

816
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: he averaged two point nine yards of carry.

817
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean in his rookie year there was no

818
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: passing threat, and he was better this year. He was

819
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: just flat out bad.

820
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: Uh. Fifty two Joshua Kelly Okay, I mean the Chargers

821
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: don't have a running back.

822
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: No, they don't, and they just signed a offense coordinator

823
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: runs the ball like crazy, and they're gonna have a

824
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: running back.

825
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna run the football.

826
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: I'd be Dereck Henry. I mean, they're gonna give somebody

827
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: that's a good money. They can't afford Derek. They can't

828
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: afford anybody, right, They'll drop the Michigan guys.

829
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: Fifty three Kenneth Game Will MHM is what he is

830
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah. Fifty four Sama p Ryan really.

831
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: Good in protection that keeps in illegal all the time.

832
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: He hit fifty catches this year.

833
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's out there on passing downs.

834
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Right, speaking of which, Antonio Gibson.

835
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at higher hopes, but I think that

836
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: ship sailed.

837
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: He had forty eight catches this year.

838
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's gonna be a free agent. I'm curious

839
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: what kind of market he has.

840
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: Fifty six Clyde Edwards Hilaire, He's just.

841
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: A flat out bust. Yeah, he has a good, good

842
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: draft class and he's bad.

843
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: Uh. Fifty seven Latavious Murray. Can't believe he is still

844
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: he's good in protection. He was in the Levey on

845
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: Bell draft.

846
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't run. He can't run. He's a goal

847
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: hind back pass protector.

848
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a fifty eight. And Mari de Mercado.

849
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: I forgot about him, but he had a game or two.

850
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. Fifty nine Pierre Strong.

851
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: Okay, he's like a game.

852
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: Well yeah, sixty Elijah Mitchell, poor guy. I mean, so

853
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: you can get Elijah Mitchell. I just I was looking

854
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: at some different pro for the Super Bowl this weekend.

855
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell's over under, at least it was on DraftKings.

856
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: Four rushing yards, four rushing yards, She's like two carries

857
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: might be one, might be one.

858
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: You might get it with one.

859
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure McCaffrey's gonna get ninety percent of snap. Yeah,

860
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: but if he just even tweaks anything, Mitchell's gonna get it.

861
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

862
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean I definitely go over before i'd go under.

863
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I under four. Under four he can fall

864
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: forward and almost get four.

865
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

866
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: Sixty one Dalvin Cook looks pretty.

867
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: Shock to me too. It's same draft class as Connor.

868
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Sixty two Jamal Williams.

869
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: Same draft class as Connor, all beat up.

870
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: Sixty three Cam Akers never really put together. He averaged

871
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: two point eight yards of carry this year.

872
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, by the rams. How about a big upgrade

873
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: going from him to the number two dude on this list.

874
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: Sixty four Tony Jones.

875
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a guy. Yeah, I hope he's going on

876
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: special teams.

877
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: Sixty five is Matt Brida two point seven yards of carry? Really?

878
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: And maybe is he in the league anymore?

879
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean like they probably not right. Sixty six Darryl Henderson.

880
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: He averaged two league for four yards per carry. Wow,

881
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: he looks good. A couple of years ago when people don't.

882
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: You can find running backs anywhere.

883
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: If you want these guys.

884
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: Sixty seven JK. Dobbins, he averaged two point eight yards

885
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: to carry.

886
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he plays next year. Him and him

887
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 2: and Chubber sad stories.

888
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sixty eight Ronnie Rivers.

889
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: The price you ever started a game?

890
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: Uh? Sixty nine Tyler Goodson.

891
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: Surprise you ever started a game?

892
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: Thirteen carries, thirteen carries, seventy is Lemichael P.

893
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: Ryan.

894
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have a lot of comments on

895
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: these guys.

896
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Seventy one Ingram.

897
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: I actually thought he'd be okay coming out of you see,

898
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: he's not.

899
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: Two point one yard carry this year rough and seventy

900
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: two the Great Deon Jackson. Okay, fourteen carries sixteen yards.

901
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: Those last ten are really borderline NFL players, maybe the last.

902
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: So when people say that you can just find running

903
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: backs anywhere, no, I don't. That's not true. It's not true.

904
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: I mean, Warren's a heck of a story. Yeah, that's

905
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: like getting an extra second round pick or an extra

906
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: first round paper, right. That doesn't happen all the time.

907
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely not No, And I guarantee you if we went

908
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: over the across this list, most of the guys on

909
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: the top twenty five ish of this list or like

910
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: third round picks are better or higher.

911
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I would think so, yeah, you do it

912
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: super quick. McCaffrey's at one. Yeah.

913
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for every Isaiah Pacheco.

914
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of Camaros that had great

915
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 2: careers that were third. Yeah, but he's not a great example,

916
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: but yeah, I was. I mean Zeke was the top five.

917
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyra Williams was like a five, I believe.

918
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of These guys were all including like

919
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: the Chubbs of the world.

920
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, right. I mean, you know, Chubb was

921
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: one of the first picks of the second round, like

922
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: the same thing as Derek Erick Henry. They were very

923
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: very early seconds. So yeah, you can you can, you know,

924
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: catch lightning in a bottle every once in a while,

925
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: but you can't count on it.

926
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't believe you can find backs anywhere.

927
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: The argument is, can you get ten years out of them?

928
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: You know, can you get that's your money? Different argument different.

929
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: But if I if I get five years out of

930
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: the guy right now, people were calling Nausea Harris a

931
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: bust at mid season, right, I think that he's at

932
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: three consecutive thousand yard seasons. He's not a bust.

933
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: He's not a bust. He was worth the pick. Yeah,

934
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: he wasn't a fifth pick in.

935
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: The drug No, he wasn't. He wasn't where they took McCaffrey,

936
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: right or Zeke or what? Yeah? Right, he was anet Yeah,

937
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: a second half of late second half of the of

938
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: the first Roald running back. There's really not a lot

939
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: of difference between taking him at at twenty four and

940
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: taking Javonte Williams at where he got like thirty six

941
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: or whatever.

942
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, something in that neighborhood.

943
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: Right, there's no difference there other than the fact that

944
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: you get the fifty year option.

945
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 2: Well that's a nice bonus prize.

946
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

947
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 2: I mean, if Williams was playing as well as Harris,

948
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: they would have a world decision on the hands.

949
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: What are they?

950
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: You know right where the Steeler will probably pick up

951
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: airs for six point six.

952
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: And be happier later.

953
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, take as a gift.

954
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

955
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,719
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956
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:18,879
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957
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963
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: I also like to remind everybody that we're playing back

964
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: all of the Steelers' Super Bowl victories. Yeah on Steelers

965
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. I can hear those every day. Let's see.

966
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: We should be up to seventy nine.

967
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: Today, more so than other teams Nation radios. It takes

968
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: a little longer than some other squads. Yeah.

969
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. You can listen to these rebroad cast on Steelers

970
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Nation Radio, live, on Steelers dot com. Uh, the Steelers

971
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: Official mobile app, or on the iHeartRadio app.

972
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: Always you get a kick out.

973
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: I put always try to listen to those.

974
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: It's just a different world. Yeah, throwback to my youth. Absolutely.

975
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: Uh, we're just talking about running backs, Matt and I

976
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: wonder so I've been writing my pieces here for Steelers

977
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: dot Com on on position or position yeah. And so

978
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: when I did the running backs group, and anytime I

979
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 1: write about the running backs, people, So what, Nogie Harris

980
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: got a thousand yards? Anybody that's only sixty yards a game.

981
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: If that's the case, if it's if that's all it takes,

982
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: and it's not that big of a deal. Why were

983
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: there only twelve running backs in the league this passion

984
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: that had a thousand yards?

985
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: It's not common. I mean it. I mean, guys do

986
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: it every year, so I guess in that regard it's common.

987
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: But it's not like I just got my sixty today.

988
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: I'll do check it, you know, put the go into

989
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 2: work and check the time clock. You know, I got

990
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: my sixty. I'll do it again. That we do again

991
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: that next week.

992
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: There were wide receivers that had over one thousand yards.

993
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: There were twelve running.

994
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: Backs, okay, And again part of its durability and fighting

995
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: through pain and reliability and you know, grinding it out

996
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 2: when the going gets tough. I mean, and he's done

997
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: three years.

998
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: In a row, right, I mean that means something. He

999
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: thinks he was seventh in the league in rushing this year.

1000
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: I bet a lot of people just heard that and

1001
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 2: be like, really, seventh, seventh. Right, it's a pretty good season. Yeah,

1002
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: really good season.

1003
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean if you finished top ten pretty much every

1004
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: year that you've been in the league and rushing, you're

1005
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 1: pretty good football player.

1006
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: You're doing your job.

1007
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: You do them with them which you were drafted to do.

1008
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: Who was the ones ahead of him?

1009
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: Chris McCaffrey, He led the league in rushing fourteen fifty nine.

1010
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: Then you had Derrick Henry second at eleven sixty seven.

1011
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: Shocked, he's still second.

1012
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: Kyram Williams was third, James Cook fourth, DeAndre Swift fifth,

1013
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: James Connor six, Nagee Harris seven.

1014
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: Connor only played He played thirteen team games.

1015
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: Caro william only played twelve.

1016
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: I was wondering he started the season. I don't think

1017
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: playing a ton.

1018
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1019
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: Wow.

1020
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: Then you lost some running back year, but still Joe

1021
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: Mix and David Montgomery, Raheem Moster, Travis Aten. Those are

1022
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: the guys that was.

1023
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: It guys, right, I mean those are the top producing

1024
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: running backs in football right now.

1025
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: Everybody else you better have had two, because yeah, you

1026
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: weren't getting there. You know.

1027
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: Warren was in the conversation too, especially for all purpose yards.

1028
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: Warren finished twenty eighth and overall rushing.

1029
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: Rushing, Yeah, but had more receiving yards than most of

1030
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: those guys.

1031
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1032
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought both two guys with two thousand

1033
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: yards with scrimmage goes a long way.

1034
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1035
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: So running back is set for next year. Yeah, but

1036
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: would you like to have a third that? I mean,

1037
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: someone else is gonna make the team? Yeah, would you

1038
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: just kind of bring up.

1039
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: I'd like to have a young guy that because I

1040
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: don't want Jaylen Warren to have to play special teams

1041
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: as much as he has. Definitely, I'd like to bring

1042
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: in a young guy who can do some of that

1043
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: stuff and maybe be your kick returner and things of

1044
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: that nature.

1045
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: Kind of what McFarlane never quite turned it out to be.

1046
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: I'd like someone a little more dynamic than Snell, though,

1047
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: who was a really good special team or but not

1048
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: much of.

1049
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: A Give me a two hundred and ten pound back

1050
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: that they can return some kicks and run down and

1051
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: cover punts and things like that.

1052
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and can get me out of a game

1053
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: and carry the ball a little bit. Because the chances

1054
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: of both those guys staying healthy all year next year

1055
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: are probably not great, my approach might be, though, seventh

1056
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: rounder later, sixth.

1057
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: Rounder later, and I'm not gonna be early.

1058
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, spending good money on undrafted free agents and do

1059
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: the old three dogs one bone trick for who wants

1060
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: to work hardest on teams and get on the steam.

1061
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: I want that. I want that rookie the first year.

1062
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't want him to have to go out there

1063
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: and pass, protect no and things of that nature. I

1064
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: want him to learn how to do that from Najie

1065
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: Harrison Jalen Warren. Yeah, because they're both good at it.

1066
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: So I definitely don't want to get the camp and oh,

1067
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson's still out there, one of those old dudes.

1068
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to blog.

1069
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to go get that guy

1070
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: unless there's a big injury early in can.

1071
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: Because the other thing is you want to stay cheap

1072
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: at that position very much.

1073
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm thinking.

1074
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: Because if you're going to pick up Harris's fifty year

1075
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: option and then Warren's going to be restricted, like, they're

1076
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: going to start to cost a little bit more money. Yeah, right,

1077
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: I'd like to kind of supplement that a little bit.

1078
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I at their age, that's a bargain position for you.

1079
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: H Yeah, and that's a nice situation to begin.

1080
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: They're the same age, by.

1081
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: The way, Yeah, I know, yeah, same recruiting class.

1082
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's not you know, they're both at

1083
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: both of.

1084
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: Their share of wear and tear. Yeah, I mean they

1085
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: run hard. I mean I don't know if you encount

1086
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: those guys for two years from now, right, I mean

1087
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: that's a year to year position for me when I

1088
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: team built without a doubt.

1089
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at this year's thousand yard

1090
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: rushers compared to last year's thousand yard brus how.

1091
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: Man you think actually repeat, like, I'll take my chances

1092
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: on McCaffrey. I probably wouldn't. Un moster, I don't think

1093
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: I would on Henry Tyon Williams torn. I mean, the

1094
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: opportunity is going to be he's gonna have to be

1095
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: a volume guy. Yeah, they hope James Cook No, like

1096
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: Henry might end up in Buffalo.

1097
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: Andre Swift do it again? Do you trust him?

1098
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: Something great about it? Right?

1099
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: Do you trust Connor to stay healthy for the full season?

1100
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: I bet no.

1101
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: I mean you know if you just look at let's

1102
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: go back and look at last year's.

1103
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: That's gonna be funny because it's going to be Jacobs

1104
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: and you.

1105
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Know guys like a bunch of guys that didn't make it,

1106
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: didn't do it again, Jacobs, Derrick, Henry, Nick Chubb got hurt,

1107
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Sad Sae Kwon Barkley didn't get there this year. Miles

1108
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: Sanders didn't come close this year. Ballpark, Dalvin Cook, Nope, No,

1109
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: probably never will again. McCaffrey had eleven thirty nine yards.

1110
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: That's a huge case for McCaffrey and Henry for Hall

1111
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: of Fame. To me, yes, they're actually doing it every year.

1112
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: I don't think Henry is exactly the same player he was,

1113
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: but he was second in the league in rushing.

1114
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. At n had eleven hundred last year. Not nearly

1115
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: as good though, in terms of yards three point eight

1116
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: yards per cary this year, five point one last year.

1117
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones got to a thousand last year. Yeah, Okay,

1118
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams got to a thousand last year.

1119
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

1120
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker got to a thousand last year. Romndre Stevenson.

1121
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 2: So there was more last year?

1122
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1123
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: So uh there were actually sixteen last year of twelve.

1124
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: Did you say this?

1125
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1126
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: Ok.

1127
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Algierrenajee, Harris, Tony Pollard.

1128
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: M Yeah, it's short lived man.

1129
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Year to year year tough to do it every year.

1130
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: Did Mixon didn't get to a thousand yards last year?

1131
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: You must have had a thousand total yard over a

1132
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: thousand total yard. I think the stat with him was

1133
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: he had eight hundred and fourteen rushing yards because he

1134
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: missed three games.

1135
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I think the stat with him is him and

1136
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: Nausea are the only only backs over the last three

1137
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: years that have gotten thirteen hundred yards total brimmage you

1138
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: know of anyone like Henry doesn't have any receiving to

1139
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: add to that.

1140
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't give you anything.

1141
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: To McCaffrey missed some time in one of those or.

1142
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: Something, but it's yeah, you're right. It's a year to

1143
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: your position.

1144
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: And McCaffrey and and Henry have put together is pretty

1145
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: darn sty and they're both not done done, I mean

1146
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: especially McCaffrey.

1147
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, let's get to another break. That's going to

1148
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: do it for our number one of the drive. We'll

1149
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: be back with our number two right after this