WEBVTT - Merrill Kelly Helps D-backs Salvage Split vs. Padres; Pavin Smith DFA'd

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of Snake's Territory, part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Foul Territory Network. My name is Jesse Friedman,

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<v Speaker 1>alongside the one and only Jack Summers. As always, be

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<v Speaker 1>sure to do all the things like this video. Subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>to our channel, maybe leave us a five star review

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you get your podcast. Jack, we just witnessed a

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<v Speaker 1>game that the Diamondbacks very much needed to win, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to do just that. Merril Kelly really

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<v Speaker 1>put the team on his back with seven innings of

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<v Speaker 1>one run ball Diamondbacks offense able to do just enough

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<v Speaker 1>behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels great to see Meryl pitch that well again.

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<v Speaker 2>I thoroughly admit that I had my doubts that we

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<v Speaker 2>would get to see this kind of performance. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>not just a good pitching line, but how he looked

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. It was We're back to a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 2>watch Merril Kelly pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, you know, the way this game started, It's

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<v Speaker 1>still felt like, okay, you know, we'll see, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>if Meryl Kelly is able to able to be successful

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<v Speaker 1>and go on a nice run and put some innings together.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly he was better his last time out against Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty clean first inning for Meryl Kelly won two three,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he comes out for the second and Manny

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<v Speaker 1>Machado takes the first pitch and hits it very deep,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's like, all right, well, here we are

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<v Speaker 1>with Merrill Kelly. You know, certainly allowing home runs has

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<v Speaker 1>been a trend for him this season. But as the

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<v Speaker 1>game went on, Jack Merrill made some really big pitches,

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of really important double plays, and it

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<v Speaker 1>felt like as the game went on, Merrill just seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to get better and better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and don't forget to pick off. It was fun

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<v Speaker 2>to see me getting back to picking guys off again.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was something that he was among the

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<v Speaker 2>leaders in the league for a few years in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, that's another weapon in his arsenal. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>isn't going to get a lot of ink, but picking

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<v Speaker 2>off Tatisa was pretty big there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Moreno gets the credit most of the credit

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<v Speaker 1>for that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh, I'm sorry. Was that two two three not

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<v Speaker 2>a one three?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a two three. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a two three. I mean, Merrill, I guess contributed, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, you're quick to play, but Gabby's the one

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<v Speaker 1>who gunned out Tatis at first base, originally called safe

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Diamondbacks challenged, and it looked pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cut and dry. Nice nice play all the way around.

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<v Speaker 2>Bonehead. I saw the plate, but for whatever reason, I

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<v Speaker 2>just looked at my sheet instead.

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<v Speaker 1>That happens to the best of us. But yeah, as

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<v Speaker 1>the game went along, Jacket just felt like Merrill got

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<v Speaker 1>more and more comfortable. We saw him have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Tory Lavello and the dugout after the sixth inning.

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<v Speaker 1>He was right around I don't remember the exact pitch count.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was low mid eighties something like that

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<v Speaker 1>through six innings, and then he went out there. He

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<v Speaker 1>won the argument with Tory Lavello was able to make

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<v Speaker 1>his case to go back out there, and rightfully so.

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<v Speaker 1>So Merrill went back out there, tossed to really clean one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>seventh inning, and only finished the game with ninety four pitches.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was very efficient.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, you kind of wonder about those conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about this while it was happening, like

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<v Speaker 2>is that motivating for a pitcher? Like, you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>is he saying? If anybody gets on you're out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like that that would seem to make a

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<v Speaker 2>guy pitch tight. But that's the last thing that Meryl did.

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<v Speaker 2>He came out and dominated at seventh inning and just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, got through it really quickly. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to be a fly on the wall in

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<v Speaker 2>some of those conversations. I'm sure that they'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it in a few moments about what was said, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, between them, you know where they're coming from. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Merril's like, get out of my way, I want to pitch,

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<v Speaker 2>and Toy's like, okay, I'll let you go back out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm sure it went along those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>This outing, to me, had a different feel than his

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<v Speaker 1>game against Milwaukee. I know, the final line against Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 1>was decent. Five innings of two runs. Certainly you would

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<v Speaker 1>take that, but there was kind of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>hard contact in that game. I think Merrill allowed eight

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<v Speaker 1>or nine base runners in that one, something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just felt like he wasn't really in control

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<v Speaker 1>of the game as much as he was just doing

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<v Speaker 1>like damage control when he needed to, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>minimizing situations to his credit, finding ways to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of jams. That he hasn't been able to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of this season. But this game felt more like vintage

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<v Speaker 1>Meryl Kelly. I mean, this was a as the outing

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<v Speaker 1>went on, right, it didn't always look this way, but

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<v Speaker 1>as the outing went on, it felt more and more

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<v Speaker 1>like Merrill was in control of this game. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>if I was nitpicking Jack, I would reference the thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've referenced a lot with Merrill Kelly this season, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that he just isn't throwing as many pitches in

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<v Speaker 1>the strike zone as you would like to see. And

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<v Speaker 1>oddly enough, that was very much the case in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>His zone rate and this one was only thirty nine percent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is actually well below his season average, very far

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<v Speaker 1>below the league average. Merrill really did not throw very

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<v Speaker 1>many pitches in the zone at all in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>but it absolutely worked for him. I mean, he got

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<v Speaker 1>a decent amount of chase outside the zone. He generated

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of soft contact. This had a very different

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<v Speaker 1>feel from the Milwaukee outing. Even though, yeah, we would

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like to see Meryll land a few more pitches

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<v Speaker 1>for strikes.

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<v Speaker 2>Right well, you know, I mean I'd probably go back

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<v Speaker 2>and look up and see how many were just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in that shadow zone or just on the outside part

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<v Speaker 2>of the strike zone on the edges. I'd be interested

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<v Speaker 2>to look at that, because it sure felt like he

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<v Speaker 2>was around the zone most of the time, or when

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<v Speaker 2>he was missing, it seemed like it had purpose, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was a pitch running in on a right

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<v Speaker 2>hand into batter just kind of get his hands up

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, sliding back a little bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then makes it more susceptible to the changeup. So

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<v Speaker 2>I feel pretty good about the way he was locating

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<v Speaker 2>the ball today, despite the fact that the zone percentage

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't great, you know, but yeah, you know, who am

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<v Speaker 2>I to counter you when it comes to nippicking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if that's something I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be known for per se, but yeah, this was I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely think that's a valid point on your part. Looking

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<v Speaker 1>at at Merrill's pitch chart, just pulling it up on

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<v Speaker 1>Savant on my computer. Here, pretty much every pitch is competitive,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was something we talked about after the Milwaukee outing,

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<v Speaker 1>was he had still quite a few misfires in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>where especially the cutter, it felt like was just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in no man's land time after time. But a

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<v Speaker 1>different story in this game. He was out of the zone,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little more than you'd like, but it was very,

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<v Speaker 1>very effective and he does there's a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 1>for that. On the offensive side of things, Jack, not

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot to speak of for the Diamondbacks, and

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<v Speaker 1>this one you'd like to see more than three runs,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with someone like Griffin canning on the mound. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk a little more about what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>the offense later, but to get into the positives from

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<v Speaker 1>this one, the d Backs scratched across a run in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth inning, Corbyn Carrel unfortunately thrown out at second

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stretch a single into a double. He really

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<v Speaker 1>beat the tag, but then he just leaked off the

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<v Speaker 1>base for a split second and that was that. But

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<v Speaker 1>the d Backs still score a run in the inning

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<v Speaker 1>there on a wild pitch. Max Kepler and Lord of

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<v Speaker 1>s Gariel both hitting singles to contribute to that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then in the top of the fifth Heraldo Perdomo drove

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<v Speaker 1>in Tommy Troy from second base clutch two out single

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<v Speaker 1>RBI single there gave the Diamondbacks a two to one

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<v Speaker 1>lead at the time, and then the other run for

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona and this one Nolan Arnato against Yuki Matt Suey

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<v Speaker 1>somehow hitting a splitter that was several inches below the zone.

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<v Speaker 1>You could tell looking at Matt Suwey's face that he

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of like, how on earth did you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty impressive swing from Nolan Arnado, Jack, who is just

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<v Speaker 1>a fascinating hitter. It feels like, you know, sometimes he

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<v Speaker 1>feels like he can't do anything with a pitch that's

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<v Speaker 1>right down the middle, and yet he every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while will just run into a splitter that's six

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<v Speaker 1>inches below the zone and hit that out of the yard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, you know, you just don't expect that

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<v Speaker 2>pitch to be the one that hit. I mean, splitters

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<v Speaker 2>have been driving this team crazy all year long, so

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<v Speaker 2>that was the last thing you would expect, especially Nolan

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to go down and get that one.

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<v Speaker 2>But he did. You know he's do is he have

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<v Speaker 2>the most home runs in Petco Park amongst visiting players

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<v Speaker 2>are close to it. I think they said he had

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<v Speaker 2>over thirty homers and at go so it must be

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<v Speaker 2>just something about hitting there. He likes it and they

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<v Speaker 2>need him to, you know, at least be league average.

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<v Speaker 2>He's kind of been doing better over the last week

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<v Speaker 2>or so, but you know, his year to date numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are still a little below average, I think, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the home run tonight probably helped get him up closer

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<v Speaker 2>to that. With his steady defense, if they can get

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<v Speaker 2>that all year long, Tory's going to have to get

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<v Speaker 2>him his days off a little bit more frequently than

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<v Speaker 2>he had been. So you know, it's just great to

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<v Speaker 2>see him still be able to contribute and get going

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dbac's bullpen was solid behind Meryl Kelly in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Ginkle pitched a one two three eighth inning and

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<v Speaker 1>then Paul Sewald followed that up with a one two

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<v Speaker 1>three ninth inning couple of strikeouts. Actually a really good

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<v Speaker 1>game for Paul Sewalt. He looked particularly sharp in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>So not a great series overall for the bullpen jack Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday's game was a bit of a rough one for them,

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<v Speaker 1>but again, it feels like when it has mattered in

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<v Speaker 1>the situation where you really need your bullpen to step

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<v Speaker 1>up and protect a slim lead, this bullpen has very

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<v Speaker 1>consistently done that in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, Paul was dominant I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't just have a nice outing. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was ten pitches, nine strikes. He struck out Tattoos and

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<v Speaker 2>bok Arts, two guys that have both taken him deep

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<v Speaker 2>in their careers, you know, and it was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, good morning, good afternoon, good night. Yeah, it doesn't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it doesn't. It was almost a nine pitch inning.

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<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't really get much more dominant than that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just amazing to watch Paul sometimes pitch that dominantly

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<v Speaker 2>considering you know, some of the other factors that we

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<v Speaker 2>know well about his home run proneness and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know twenty one for twenty two, who had

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<v Speaker 2>that on their bingo card.

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<v Speaker 1>Not mean, yeah, I would be lying if I if

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<v Speaker 1>I said I was expecting that from Paul Seawall. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been despite the fact that the ra is still

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<v Speaker 1>up there. I know he's been less sharp lately, but again,

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<v Speaker 1>he's generally stepped up when the Diamondbacks have needed him.

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<v Speaker 2>Too.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard to argue with twenty one for twenty two, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's really excelled in that role despite what

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people expected from him going into the season.

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<v Speaker 1>We have more to get to on this series in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego. We're going to take a step back and

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to dive too much into what happened

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of days, but we will talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some big picture takeaways. Look ahead to the trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>check in on the standings, talk a little more about

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the offense. So a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>more ahead. Don't go away, we'll be back right after

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned earlier how the Diamondbacks got their runs in

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<v Speaker 1>this game. It was not exactly a firework display for

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<v Speaker 1>that unit in this one, just scoring three runs in

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<v Speaker 1>this game, and by and large in the series, the

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks offense did not do particularly well against what has

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<v Speaker 1>been a weaker starting pitching group for San Diego this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the vibes were high on Monday, Jack, when

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<v Speaker 1>they came out and they scored eight runs. You felt

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe this was going to be a big swing

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<v Speaker 1>in the other direction for that group. But then the

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<v Speaker 1>d Backs came back and just mustered one run on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday and then three runs in the game yesterday, which

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<v Speaker 1>did not particularly matter much at that point, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a rough go for that group for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a while now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Unfortunately, almost every player except for a few,

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<v Speaker 2>have been underperforming their projections this year what was expected

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<v Speaker 2>of them, some by very large margins. Some are players

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<v Speaker 2>that are on the firing line as far as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>severe underperformance to the point of DFA DFA. Others are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some of the stars on this team have

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<v Speaker 2>not done what is expected of them, and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>all kind of combined to an offense that's severely underwhelmed

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<v Speaker 2>and underperformed. You know, I wrote an article the other

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<v Speaker 2>day and I made a case for you can almost

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<v Speaker 2>calculate that the team is about fifty runs shy of

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<v Speaker 2>where they should be based on their projections and playing

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<v Speaker 2>time that they've gotten. You know, the one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>the players themselves can't really control is the playing time

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<v Speaker 2>they get. Obviously, you play better, you get more playing time.

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<v Speaker 2>But whether it's injury, who got called up, who got

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<v Speaker 2>sent down, and how Tory decides to put the lineup in,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't really control that. But you know, you still

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<v Speaker 2>can look at things based on how much playing time

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<v Speaker 2>they've got gotten and how much they've produced versus how

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<v Speaker 2>much they were expected to produce. So that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to do in my article the other day,

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<v Speaker 2>and here's the chart on it. So the metric that

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<v Speaker 2>I used was runs created. The runs created metric is

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<v Speaker 2>simply looking at the inputs of you know, hits, walks,

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<v Speaker 2>home runs, strikeouts, et cetera, et cetera, all their bat

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<v Speaker 2>at all events and all their walks and strikeouts and

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<v Speaker 2>looking at how many runs those typically create. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what runs created is because it takes sequencing out of

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<v Speaker 2>the picture. And when you look at this, the team

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<v Speaker 2>has created has runs created three hundred and sixty eight

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<v Speaker 2>heading into yesterday's game is a two games old data

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<v Speaker 2>and there were fifty two runs under what they were

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<v Speaker 2>projected to do. So I'm showing here the plate appearances,

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<v Speaker 2>the runs created, and the over or under projection. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, Gabra Marino has thirty eight runs created in

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty three plate appearances. He was projected

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<v Speaker 2>in this many per plate appearance to have about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>almost thirty five, so he's three point two over. If

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<v Speaker 2>you flip all the way to the bottom of the table,

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<v Speaker 2>Lord Escuriel only has thirteen runs created in one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty eight plate appearances, where he should have had

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty one or twenty two based on his preseason projection,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he's minus eight point six. So that's the

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<v Speaker 2>top and the bottom of this chart. And this was

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<v Speaker 2>a way for me to calculate the impact of each

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<v Speaker 2>player on the team. And it's really fairly evident obviously

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<v Speaker 2>that looking at ten other metrics, you don't need this

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you that Lordis and Peven have been extremely

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<v Speaker 2>detrimental to the offense, as was Adrian del Castillo before

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<v Speaker 2>being sent out. I mean they're at minus seven point

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<v Speaker 2>four minus seven point six and minus eight point six. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>surprisingly you see Katel Marte and Heraldo Padomo just above

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<v Speaker 2>them at minus five to five and minus six six.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously they're good players and they're still well above average,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was supposed to be even better than this,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they're each missing about five or six runs.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you look at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the table, I mean del Castillo, Smith and Guriel, they

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<v Speaker 2>account for forty five percent of the negative fifty two

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<v Speaker 2>runs in just twelve percent of the played appearances. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is just another way to quantify how badly they've

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<v Speaker 2>impacted the team. But also more to the point, if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the top, the positive numbers are there

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<v Speaker 2>for Marino Lawler, who's only got forty four played appearances,

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<v Speaker 2>Jose Fernandez. However, Jose didn't have a very high projection

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<v Speaker 2>to begin with, and then as same for Vargas. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at this point you don't really have enough

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<v Speaker 2>positive above expected production above projected production from the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the table, and almost everybody's underperforming. So that's the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom line. I mean, it's just it's a lineup wide thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's three or four guys that really hurt the

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<v Speaker 2>s team. The most.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you mentioned that there are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>better hitters that show up in the negative here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Likekzel was projected to do more, Heraldo Perdomo was projected

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<v Speaker 1>to do more. But what really stood out to me

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<v Speaker 1>looking at that was like, oh my gosh, like every

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<v Speaker 1>single non star level hitter shows up not only in

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<v Speaker 1>the red, but like deep in the red. Consider how

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<v Speaker 1>many played appearances they had, right, I mean, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>a massive difference between lordus Guriel Junior having an OPS

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the mid five hundreds versus having an

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<v Speaker 1>OPS in the low mid seven hundreds. Like the difference

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<v Speaker 1>there is as big as the difference between lordis having

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<v Speaker 1>an OPS and the seven hundreds and having an OPS

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<v Speaker 1>and then nine hundreds. I mean, that's the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gap that you're talking about there, and that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of different hitters on this team where

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<v Speaker 1>you were expecting to get at least like a competent,

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<v Speaker 1>roughly league average sort of production and instead you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>well below that. And so yeah, I mean, would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to see Catel's numbers continue to go up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit? Heraldo had a nice game today, Maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to get on a bit of a continued run.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had stretches here and there, but hasn't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain it for a long period of time. You

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<v Speaker 1>would like to see those things happen, but you just

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<v Speaker 1>need like a level of competence from the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the lineup. And it feels jack like the Dbacks have

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<v Speaker 1>been chasing that all season long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know, at a certain point you

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<v Speaker 2>have to say, like, I'm ready to throw in the

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<v Speaker 2>towel on the projections, right, like, you know, the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of season projections still, I mean, they've all taken a

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<v Speaker 2>hit almost you know, most of them have taken a

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<v Speaker 2>hit as far as what the rest of season numbers

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<v Speaker 2>look like compared to their preseason numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting the paid Smith numbers on the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go. Yeah, and then of course you know

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<v Speaker 2>the obligatory now we've gone. I've showed this table before.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just an update. Back in middle June. On

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<v Speaker 2>June sixteenth, I published an article and we posted this

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<v Speaker 2>this table and you've probably seen it on Twitter if

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<v Speaker 2>you follow me there, and this just shows you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what Peven Smith did the first part of his career

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<v Speaker 2>through September of twenty four, over eleven hundred and almost

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<v Speaker 2>twelve hundred played appearances, he was a little bit below

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<v Speaker 2>average with a ninety two WRC plus, so he's about

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<v Speaker 2>eight percent below average hitter for the first twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 2>played appearances of his career. I see a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people quoting his war totals. I kind of ignore the

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball Reference war total because Smith played over at almost

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen hundred innings in the outfield.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, sorry, Jack, I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt you real

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<v Speaker 1>quick because I saw someone put this in the chat

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<v Speaker 1>and I just confirmed on Twitter, speaking of Peven Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>we have some news. The Diamondbacks, according to Nick Bacoro

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<v Speaker 1>one minute ago, have designated Peven Smith for assignment and

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Waldschmidt is on his way back up to the majors.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is breaking news live on the show from

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<v Speaker 1>our good friend Nick Bacoro out in San Diego. The

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks made the move Jack that people have been calling

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<v Speaker 1>for for a long time. Peven Smith has been designated

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<v Speaker 1>for assignment, and Ryan Waldschmid, who's been down in Triple

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<v Speaker 1>A for a few weeks now, he's on his way

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<v Speaker 1>back to the majors overdue.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been talking about this for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>despite what a lot of people seem to think. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously I was a little slower than many to call

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<v Speaker 2>for him to be removed from the roster. But my

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<v Speaker 2>line in the sand was my article on June sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>and at that point I'm like, Okay, he's got to

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<v Speaker 2>do it right now or he needs to be removed

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<v Speaker 2>from the roster. And he didn't, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they let it go an extra couple of weeks. I

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<v Speaker 2>really expected him to not last past Max Kepler returning

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<v Speaker 2>coming up on June twenty fifth. That was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like my absolute deadline for him to get things turned around,

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't. And it was frustrating as much for

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<v Speaker 2>me as everybody else to see him, you know, continue

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<v Speaker 2>on for more than another two weeks. Unfortunate for him,

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<v Speaker 2>nice guy. I would have loved to have seen him

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<v Speaker 2>be successful, but this should have happened a while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Peven Smith, I mean, it's hard to argue with

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers. Right this season, he has slashed one forty

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<v Speaker 1>one two thirty six two and just for the heck

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<v Speaker 1>of it, I'll throw this graphic back up on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you were just talking through it. Peven's career

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<v Speaker 1>WRC plus is ninety eight, his career OPS is seven

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty, and as you have here on the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>his rest of season projection was to be just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit south of that, to have an ops of

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<v Speaker 1>seven oh two and a WRC plus in the low

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<v Speaker 1>ninety range. The issue is that while Peven Smith has

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<v Speaker 1>sort of always projected as a league average hitter on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>he's almost never been that. Like if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>Peven Smith's year by year line, he pretty much has

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<v Speaker 1>always either been way better than that, although it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen for very long, as your table points out, that

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<v Speaker 1>really just happened over a couple of months, really, but

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<v Speaker 1>it heavily impacted his numbers both in twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>and in twenty twenty five. Both of those season numbers

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<v Speaker 1>look great, but then you have you know, his twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two twenty three season where he had a six forty

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<v Speaker 1>two OPS, in his twenty twenty two season where he

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<v Speaker 1>had a six sixty seven OPS, and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>this year where he was one of the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst hitters in baseball when he was actually in

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the lineup. So just a bizarre situation where like the

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>full body of work was right in the middle. And

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the d Backs would have taken a seven

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 1>to twenty ops from Peven this year. I mean, if

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>if he had a seven twenty ops, he'd be one

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 1>of the best hitters on the team. He would probably

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>he would probably be batting fifth, and people would be

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:36.439
<v Speaker 1>okay with that. But for whatever reason, Jack, he just

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.919
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been able to have any kind of consistency at

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.439
<v Speaker 1>the plate. It was just those those two months at

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>the end of twenty four in the beginning of twenty

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>five where he lit the world on fire. And understandably,

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>after you see that, it's it's maybe a little bit

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 1>hard to let go. But I at the same time,

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I think we're all on the same page. This is

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a move that Diamondbacks probably could have made a while back.

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Look, let's be one hundred percent transparent here. We sat

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 2>in that press room time after time, whether it was

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Mike or whether it was Tory insisting to us Peven

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Smith can hit, and that phrase became somewhat of not

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 2>just a talking point, but an eye roll point. I mean,

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 2>we heard it over and over and over again, and

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 2>very few of us in that press room bought into it. Yeah,

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:33.919
<v Speaker 2>and every time we heard it, we're just going to

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 2>do again. Really, they're going to keep saying this, and

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 2>then it just kind of became a joke, you know,

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and they had a misplaced confidence. I think it was

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:45.959
<v Speaker 2>very much born out of a lot of bad at

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 2>bald data. When he did have some of those lower ops,

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 2>some of his bad at bald data suggested that he

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 2>should be doing a lot better. And then when he

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>had that hot one hundred and thirty seven PA, they

0:25:56.200 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 2>felt very validated in waiting him out, you know. And

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>what they were not able to see and what they

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 2>were blind to was the following two hundred and fifty

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 2>PA were just absolutely abysmal. And so they stuck with

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 2>it too long. And you know, this is something again

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 2>that you know, you can say, all right, well you

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 2>give them a shot this year. That's great. But heading

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 2>into the year again, i'll you know, I pointed out

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 2>to Mike that they should bring in a left handed

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 2>bat because they can't go into the season thinking that

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 2>finding a right handed first base on the platoon of

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Paven's going to get it done. They need a left

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 2>handed bat because they can't depend on just Peven and

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Adrian del Castillo. And so that's why I went on

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 2>and on about Ryan, Ryan O'Hearn or you know, somebody.

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>They needed to get a left handed bat, and you know,

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.239
<v Speaker 2>they didn't see it that way. And you know, they

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 2>were right about a lot of things that I've been

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.159
<v Speaker 2>wrong about. And I don't mean to in any way

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 2>imply that I could do a better job as a

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>GM of the Arizona Diamondbacks. It's way above my level,

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>but I was right about this one thing.

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's a I think it's hard to

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>argue with that at this point. Mighty Schuman in the

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>in the chat says Il Tomorrow can take the left

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>handed first base at bats. Yeah, I mean it seems

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>like that's sort of the course of action from here.

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the d Backs are bringing Rian Walschman

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>back to play first base, so presumably it's going to

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>be Eil Tomorrow and basically an everyday role over at first.

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>And then Tim Tawas as we saw today, he can

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 1>he can play the position as well if the d

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>Backs need him to. But yeah, I think it's I

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's eel Tomorrow Vargas's job, which in some ways

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 1>is a is a credit to Eil Tomorrow and the

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>season he's had, especially what he did early on offensively

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 1>and what he's continued to do defensively. He's he's played

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that position really, really well. But on the other hand, Jack,

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the fact that Eldamara Vargas is is the

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>best option right now at first base is is kind

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.719
<v Speaker 1>of a problem. I mean, even for the good moments

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that eild Tomorrow has had this year. I mean, the

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>fact that he's your best option against even right handed pitching,

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>that's that is problematic eild Tomorrow this season. I'm finding

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>these numbers. Eield Tomorrow this season against righty's is hitting

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>two twenty three with a five ninety one ops. I

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>mean that is that is not the kind of production

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for from any position, much less at first base.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So you know, I kinda shoot something at you, Jesse,

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna see if you can get this up

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 2>on the screen. I don't know if you're able to

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>or not.

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>We can try.

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's a table that I posted image. Sorry, folks,

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 2>stay with us. This is in the moment. Okay, So

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>the table that Jesse is about to put up is

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the Diamondbacks first baseman sorted by plate appearances with their

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 2>OPS showing alongside it. Oh dear, and you know this

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 2>is again heading into tonight. Three hundred and sixty six

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 2>plate appearances as a first baseman for the Diamondbacks, and

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Ildemaro Vargas had one hundred and eighty one of them

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 2>so half, and as a first baseman he's had a

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>six thirty three OPS. The second most was Jose Fernandez

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 2>was sixty PA and he had a five to fifty seven.

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 2>The third highest amount of PA at first base was

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Peven Smith with fifty three and he had a four

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 2>to oh nine OPS. Lou James Gruver thirty three PA

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>with a five oh nine. Carlos Santana, who they signed

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 2>and expected to play most of the time, was terrible

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>for eight games twenty six PA with a two seventy

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>nine OPS, and then got hurt and never came back.

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>So you know two things here that you should glean

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>from this table. Ildemar Vargus is not the answer at

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>first base. And actually, if you're just focusing on first

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 2>base alone, and what's made the news recently, about the

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>worst first base ops since nineteen twenty. Peved Smith only

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>was responsible for fifty three of those PA, So I

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>think that that's important to recognize. You know, their first

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>base problem is an organizational problem. It wasn't a Pavent

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Smith problem. Not a defense of Pavent Smith, don't twist

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 2>my words, just like guys enough, there's a problem.

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Was he was one of many problems is sort of

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the takeaway there.

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, they don't have a first basement and

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>they haven't all year, right, and they didn't going into

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 2>the season. They didn't have a valid plan for first

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>base heading into twenty twenty six.

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember when I think it was Gambo tweeted out

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>at one point during the offseason that first base was

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>not going to be a priority for the team this offseason,

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that they were focused on the rotation, they were focused

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>on the bullpen, and they thought they had they had

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>they had at least had guys there who could play

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the position. And I remember reacting to that here and

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>being like, that doesn't that doesn't It seems like a

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>bold move to just roll with what you got at

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that position, and it couldn't have gone any more disastrously

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>than it has up to this point. I mean, you're

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about the lowest ops at the position by any

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>team since nineteen twenty. That's not exactly where you want

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to be in that regard. So I think Ildmorrow could

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>be fine against lefties, Like if you want to make

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>him your short side platoon at first base, the defense

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>is there, and he has good numbers against lefties this

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>season at the plate, Eildamara Vargas is hitting three twenty

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.959
<v Speaker 1>two with a nine oh seven OPS against lefties, but

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>we know what he is against righty's. And if the

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>d Bacs are serious about trying to get back in

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>this thing, Jack, it is abundantly clear that they will

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>need a left handed bat who can play first base

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>at the trade deadline. And we weren't planning to talk

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>about this today, but I'm just going to throw his

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>name out there because I know you've mentioned him before.

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Nathaniel Lowe of the Cincinnati Reds makes kind of a

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of sense. He's someone that you know the Reds

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.479
<v Speaker 1>are going to sell. They're going to be sellers. He

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make all that much money, and he's a left

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.959
<v Speaker 1>handed hitting first baseman who's had a pretty good season

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Nathaniel Lowe.

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean you look at his ops plus in his career,

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>and he's what Peven Smith was supposed to be. Yeah,

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, not eye popping power, but should give you

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>double digits, maybe fifteen or twenty in a good year,

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and you know, be over one hundred ops plus most

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 2>years one hundred and ten hundred and fifteen, one hundred

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 2>and twenty and other than twenty twenty five. That's pretty

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>much what He's been a lot of buzz about Manny Pina,

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>So I want to address that as well. Sure, So

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, look, I've been following Penya pretty closely since

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 2>last year. I again apologize if I got an edge tonight. Yeah,

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I do you know, I had people chirping at me.

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 2>They probably never even heard of Manny Pena sixty days ago,

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to make it sound like I don't

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 2>like Manny Pina, and so I got a little defensive

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter. I apologized if that edge has come out,

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to explain since this morning. At seven

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 2>thirty this morning, I tweeted out, hey make sure you

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>look at the pictures that are facing the Reno aces,

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 2>and I wasn't even thinking of Pina. When I wrote that,

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I was just saying in general, because they scored fourteen

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>runs last night. Adrian Doug Castillo went four for four

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 2>and had a homer. Okay, came back and you know,

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and so what I was trying to say to people

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, thirty four year old, washed up Marco

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Gonzalez was a starter, and they had a thirty two

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 2>year old washed up for Lever come in and give

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>up a bunch of runs too. And so it's just

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>really important when you look at those minor league numbers.

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>In a minor league box scores, like, hey, who are

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>they going against? Look for the other team's good pictures.

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Who's in the other team's pipeline, right, you know, are

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>they in their top thirty pictures? Where were they drafted?

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 2>What's their pedigree? You know? And if it's a twenty

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 2>nine to thirty year old journeyman, you know, it's you

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 2>just got to take it a little bit with a

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 2>grain of salt. I mean, it's the PCL. They score

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 2>almost six runs a game. They're at forty five hundred

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 2>feet in Reno. We see this over and over and

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 2>over again. Guys come up from Reno with great numbers

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 2>and they're ops and the Majors is two or three

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 2>hundred points lower. So it's just a way to say, hey,

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 2>chill a little bit on some of these numbers that

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 2>you're seeing coming out of Reno. Now many Pina hit

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty six home runs in Double A, He's hit three

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 2>or four now in TRIPA A. He's hot lately, and

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 2>he may very well be the guy. I mean, maybe

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.959
<v Speaker 2>he's going to come up and be able to step

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>right in and produce right away, and I hope he does.

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 2>I think he might get a chance. I think that

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 2>it's not outside the realm of possibility that they just

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>turn to him and give him a shot. You know,

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I just don't want it to be where people have

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 2>the expectation, Oh, this guy's going to come in, he's

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>going to hit two eighty and you know, go on

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 2>a thirty homer pace as soon as he steps into

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the major leagues. It's not very likely. That's all I'm

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 2>trying to say. Don't set your expectations too high there,

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 2>especially when it comes to evaluating these players. So that's

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 2>my Manny Penia rank. You know, I love the guy

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 2>as a prospect. I'm really excited to see what he

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 2>can do. That home run he hit today was an

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 2>APO shot, which is great to see because when he

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 2>was hitting Amarillo, they were all pull fly balls, So

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 2>hitting opposite field Homer's great to see.

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to highlight the a couple of comments here.

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>One is on one is on the screen from corbon barrels.

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>You can't have too much penia power on one team,

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>guys will break the algorithm. And then Mark followed up

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>and said, okay, but Jack that we considered we can

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>replace penia power with penia power. So yeah, that there

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 1>would be the dvac's Twitter account. I'm sure would would

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of fun with that. But yeah, I

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>mean I think I think you don't have to even

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.240
<v Speaker 1>look too deeply at the numbers with with penia to

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>to think that maybe he has there's a little more

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>seasoning needed there. He entered today with a one hundred

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>w RC plus in triple A, exactly league average. The

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>walk and strikeout rates have both been pretty decent, but

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the quality of contact has has not not been what

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you'd expect given the surface numbers, which of course is

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>something we're we're always paying attention to with Reno, So uh,

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see him get a shot at some

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>point this year, but it feels like we're probably a

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>little ways from that. At this point. We have more

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to get to end this episode, we're going to check

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>in on the standings, maybe talk a little bit more

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>trade deadline toward Lavello, kind of what his job security

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>situation is with where the Diamondbacks are sitting in the standing.

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<v Speaker 1>We are back here on Snake's territory. Thank you again

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 1>to all of you for being here with us. Jack.

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll talk a little bit about Tory Leavello

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>and that'll kind of lead us into some more trade

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>deadline shatter. Derek Hall was asked about this on the

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>radio today. Of course, it's no it's no secret. I

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>mean Tory Leavello. His contract is up at the end

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of the year, as it seems like it always is,

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and the Diamondbacks have a decision to be made there.

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Even with the win today split against the Padres, the

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Dbacks are still a game under five hundred, and I'll

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>bring in the standings here as well. The Diamondbacks are

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>sitting at five and a half games behind the Miami

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Marlins and the Philadelphia Phillies, who are now tied for

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the second and third wild card spots, and this is

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>not a great place to be Jack, There's there's no

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>getting around it. The Dbacks would have to jump four teams,

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and they also are sitting five and a half back,

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty big number.

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and don't forget the Marlins hold the tiebreaker advantage

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 2>three to nothing thanks to that sweep, so they can

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>tie the Marlins, they're really six and a half back.

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 2>They have to be a game better.

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess they have the tiebreaker with the Phillies though

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>right now I.

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Remember, Yeah, they're up to one.

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I guess you could argue that that they

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>are there. They're six and a half behind Miami, But

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>then they're they're only five and a half behind the Phillies.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>So maybe we should be viewing Miami as really being

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the second wild card spot right now and the Phillies

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>being in the third wildcard spot. But no matter how

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>you're going to view that, the Diamondbacks still have a

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of ground to make up here. Things have gotten

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>much worse for them in the standings over the past

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.919
<v Speaker 1>few weeks, especially as the Miami Marlins have really caught

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>fire been one of the best teams in the league

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>here for a while. And so that brings us back

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>to Tory Levello Jack and the fact that there was

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>a game in this series. I don't think we need

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to rehash every little thing, but the Wednesday game was

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously very important to all of these games were, and

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>not only did the Diamondbacks lose ten to four, but

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>they played a really sloppy baseball game. There were a

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of mishaps throughout that one, and I think it's

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 1>fair to wonder if that made Tory Leavello seat a

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit hotter than it was before.

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 2>I think it's more than fair to wonder. I think

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 2>it's a certainty that it did. Think that it's been

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 2>getting warmer and warmer. And you know, look, people are emotional, right,

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's not just fans that get emotional or press

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 2>or podcasters. Ownership gets emotional too. Absolutely, whether you're talking

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 2>about Ken or Derek, they feel the same things that

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 2>we do when they're watching these games. And it's their business,

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 2>it's their ball team, right, so they're going to be

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 2>even more frustrated than we all are, even if they're

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 2>raking in the money or whatever they want to win.

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I know that they want to win. A

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of people think that they don't care about winning,

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>but they really do. I mean, I know these people personally,

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 2>they care about winning, and so you know, when when

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 2>things go the way they did and when the team

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 2>plays like they did, I mean, they have a visceral reaction.

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 2>And that came out today, I believe. You know, Look,

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Derek is very professional, and you know, I think he

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 2>was trying to be measured, but he was very apologetic

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 2>to the fans about how sloppy and terrible the team looked.

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 2>He did not pull in punches about that. And you know,

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>when the topic of Tory's job security came up, I

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 2>was a little confused by the way he phrased it. Like,

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 2>on the one hand, he's talking about, you know, these

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 2>are the pieces that you're given, and I don't know

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 2>if he was trying to say that he wasn't given

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 2>good enough pieces or if he was trying to say

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 2>the pieces you've been given are good enough, you should

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 2>be doing better, you know, But it did ultimately seem

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 2>to come down to they feel like the team is

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 2>underperformed despite the injuries that they've had, that the team

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>should be performing better. So you know, now where do

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 2>is that? We've talked about this for seven, eight, ten

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 2>minutes on a mailbag the other day. You know, what

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 2>does that mean? Also for Mike Kaysen, you know, is

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>he in the same boat as Tory or is he

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.399
<v Speaker 2>in a different situation? His contract runs through twenty eight

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 2>with a team option for twenty nine. You know, could

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 2>it be a situation where Tory takes to fall first

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and then if things don't turn around in a next

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 2>year or two, then Mike is out. I don't know.

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's a lot of speculation, but it's front

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 2>and center on the topics right now. Toy's seat is

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 2>more than just warm, it's basically hot. I think he's

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>on the hot seat.

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I think there's been a trend that has formed over

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the past few years which is troubling for to wear

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>leavelo and makes his seat hotter in a moment like this,

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>and that is that in the biggest moments in the

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 1>regular season, the Diamondbacks have often faded, right. I mean

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you think back to even twenty twenty three. I know

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the World Series happened, and Toy deserves a whole lot

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>of credit for that, But if we're thinking about the

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>last few regular seasons. The d Backs kind of coasted

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.479
<v Speaker 1>to the end in twenty three and they very much

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.760
<v Speaker 1>backed their way into the playoffs with eighty four wins,

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and then you follow up in twenty four, they basically

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>had a playoff spot, secured their playoff odds or you know,

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>north of ninety seven percent with a couple of weeks

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 1>to go, and they missed the playoffs in twenty twenty four.

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And then we just had Corbyn Carroll a few days

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 1>ago very openly talk about how the team was pressing

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>last year around the trade deadline, and certainly that wasn't

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 1>rocket science. As an observer, it felt that way as well.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.240
<v Speaker 1>And now the Diamondbacks find themselves in a very similar

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>position a year later. And so, you know, I think

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a manner in which moving on from Tory Leavello

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.320
<v Speaker 1>would sort of be him being the fall guy for

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>all of this. I certainly this is not all his fault.

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>That would not be a fair way to frame this.

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>But there is also this narrative developing Jack where you know,

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the organization could look at this team's performance when it

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>has really mattered the most and see a team that

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.280
<v Speaker 1>has struggled to rise to the occasion.

0:44:55.680 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Under Tory Leavello, it's been a I would say, a

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 2>very consistent thing that when this team has low expectations

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 2>they do well, and when they have high expectations they

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 2>do poorly. Yeah, that's been a fairly consistent theme. I

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:16.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know why. I don't have an answer for that specifically.

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean you can say, oh, well, it's a manager,

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 2>but like, what is he doing or not doing? That

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.800
<v Speaker 2>creates that I don't know, and I know we're fairly

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 2>close to it, but it's a very difficult thing to

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 2>tease out like why that occurs. But it's very clear

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 2>when when expectations are high, they've underperformed. When expectations are low,

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:35.879
<v Speaker 2>they've overperformed.

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's hard to know how much of that

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>is Tory Lavello's doing. How much of that is is

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 1>there a call reference the roster that he's been given

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.800
<v Speaker 1>That did sort of feel like, you know, maybe maybe

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about the responsibility that Mike Kazen has in all

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.720
<v Speaker 1>of this as well. If Peven Smith is on the roster,

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 1>then you know Tory sort of has to use him

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>at least to a degree, that kind of thing. But yeah,

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it is very fair to say that Tory

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Lavello is in a difficult position right now, and how

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the next few weeks, how the next even three days ago, Jack,

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>feels very significant, and that leads us into a look

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.439
<v Speaker 1>ahead at this weekend as a Diamondbacks head to Los

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Angeles three games against the Dodgers to finish up the

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>first half of the season. And tomorrow's pitching matchup is

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of a fun one.

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Jack.

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 1>It is Eduardo Rodriguez against Joho Tani. And I'm not

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 1>sure I ever thought I would say this, but e

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>rod against Otani advantage Diamondbacks, no or something.

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>You still have to score. I mean, look, you could

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 2>go out and catch another excellent game, go seven innings,

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 2>give up one or two runs. You have to score. Yeah,

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 2>and question, I can just light up score against on Tani.

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, I guess I was saying, like purely from a

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>pitching matchup perspective, you know, But then again, I mean know,

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Tani's era is still lower than e Rods somehow, Tony's

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 1>just had an absurd season with a one point seventy nine.

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, as good as Eduardo Rodriguez has been this year,

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 1>there is I think probably no case to be made

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that the Diamondbacks have the upper hand in that game tomorrow,

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 1>but nonetheless Dbacks have their ace for the twenty twenty

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>sixth season on the mound. It's going to be a

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 1>difficult weekend from a pitching matchup standpoint. D Backs get

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Yamamoto in the Saturday game. He'll go against Brandon Fott,

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and then it's Zach Gallon against Emmett Shehan listed on Sunday.

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Jacket appears that Brandon Garcia will not be opening for

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Gallon on Sunday unless the Diamondbacks pull some last minute switch.

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 1>There doesn't look like we're getting the opener this time around.

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's what's coming up this weekend. We had some

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>other trade deadline stuff that we were going to talk about.

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>We wound up talking a whole lot about Peven Smith

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and that decision instead. But we'll circle back to the

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 1>trade deadline on tomorrow's show and you can find us

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 1>back here basically twenty four hours from right now. We'll

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:18.439
<v Speaker 1>be live after that Diamondbacks Dodgers game, so we would

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 1>love to see all of you back here then if

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you haven't already, you can find us on social media.

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>I am at jesse En Friedman on Twitter. Jack is

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>at Shoe Wizard fifty nine, and our show is at

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Snake's Territory. You can find Jack's written work, including that

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>article about the offense and that deep dive that we

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>were doing earlier. All of that is in written form

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>over at Arizona Diamondbacks on SI, so be sure to

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 1>check that out as well. Jack, any final thoughts here

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 1>as we say goodbye, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just want to respond to a couple of questions. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people think that maybe we're letting Mike Asen off here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just spent five ten minutes talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how you know, he did have a good plan for

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<v Speaker 2>first base. We've talked a lot about things that we

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<v Speaker 2>felt were deficient in the roster construction. Mike Casen and

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<v Speaker 2>Tory Levello are joined at the hip. This is an

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<v Speaker 2>organizational situation. Mike Casen's the boss, but him and Tory

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<v Speaker 2>Levello are the creators of this baseball team. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that is that is very fair. Certainly are

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<v Speaker 1>the criticism that we have for Tory Leavello. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Hasen shares a lot of that as well. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the author of this roster, and this roster certainly is

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<v Speaker 1>not as well constructed as you might like it to

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<v Speaker 1>be here in twenty twenty six. Once again, we really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate all of you being here with us in the Chat,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will be back tomorrow night with another edition

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