1 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 3 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, presented by bally Bet Sports Book, an 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: I'm still live on a reaction Monday eds of Cleveland 7 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Browns Daily. I am merely bow. He is the great, 8 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: z Am. I you are well, thank you. Yeah, you're 9 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: doing great. I mean you had yet a little time. 10 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: And then you get to see the bouncing baby boy 11 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: on her probably this morning, and I guess he was 12 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: asleep by the time he got home. 13 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: And and then there you go, smile him this morning. 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: He loves So we have like a thing now we 15 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: watch Sports Center or Good Morning Football in the morning 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 2: together and he digs it and it's very fun. Yeah, 17 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: he loves it. He Today Kyle Brandt went deep into 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: his bag of tricks for a very overproduced Where's Waldo? 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: Oh there, deep into his bag of tricks for very 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: overproduced angry runs. Thought he awarded the wrong person, if 21 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: I'm being honest with you. But so that was funny. 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: He had like a guitar player and nice who was 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: like famous. He had a pyro and all this craziness 24 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: for it. Seems like he's got a big budget for those. 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: He did a really funny walk and talk his Flacco 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: last week. 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 4: That was good. 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: When he went to the gym was good. I'm loving 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: this beanie. That's the thing that's giving me joy right now. 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: You look great. I'm a big beanie guy. I know 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: you are. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good look. 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: It is. 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 4: It's a great look. 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's gonna get to it. We can't talk 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: about what it's like. 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: To go to I'd like to do all those, but 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: I just think like otherwise, let's. 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Say five years it was a quarter of a century. 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: Let's let's table that because we'll probably pick me up 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: at some point. Okay, is my tablet because we're gonna 41 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: need to pick me up because this will be a 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: little bit of drug. 43 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: You're acting like I don't. 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett went out there and had not one, not two, 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 3: not three, not four. 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: Five sacks. He did, yeah, five sacks on approximately Let's 47 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: say we'll go to pro football folks, we'll give the 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: exact number. But in my mind. I'm gonna say on 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: approximately like thirty four ish dropbacks, because twenty four pass attempts, 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: six sacks, and then he scrambled probably another four or 51 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: five times would be my guess if I was, if 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: I was to guess, if I was to wager on it, 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: but we can't do that here the scores. I hope 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 2: you paid attention a little bit this week. Last week 55 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: it was Uncle Bo's week. This week. Oh, kids back, 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: all right, kids back. I mean last week you were gone, 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: but you just had a nice week, really real nice week. 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: Kind of middling for me middle. Oh yeah, that's fine. 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: Thirty four dropbacks, so had it exactly? No big So 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: he sacked him five times on thirty four dropbacks. That 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: is absolutely insane. It is now a new Cleveland Browns 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: franchise single season record he now has had and put together. 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: I believe it is eight straight, eight straight seasons with 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: double digit sacks. I believe I have that right. 65 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's him and Reggie White, Yes, he and he 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: surpassed Reggie White. Yeah, for the most sacks before somebody's 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: thirtieth birthday. He now leads the NFL in sacks and 68 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: in tackles for loss and to put the tackles for 69 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: a loss in a. 70 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: Little bit of perspective. In the year twenty twenty four, 71 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: he also led the NFL and tackles for loss with 72 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: twenty two. For the season, he has fifteen and eight games, 73 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: ten sacks, fifteen tackles for loss in eight games. His 74 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: hair's on fire. I mean, he really is, just really, 75 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: he is the defensive player of the year. He will 76 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: win it again. Barring something unforeseen, he will win it again. 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: He is on pace, obviously, said his career highs and 78 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: never had more than sixteen in a season. He will 79 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: become the first person ever to have five straight seasons 80 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: of fourteen or more sacks. It feels like we're on 81 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: We're going. We're training in that direction. 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: Yep, you know, singular greatness in a sea of not 83 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: so great That says here on Pro Football Focus that 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: his nicknames are Superman or Bigfoot. 85 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: I've never heard that either one. Superman, I get, I've 86 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: never heard Bigfoot. 87 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I've never heard anyone refer to him as 88 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: Superman either. 89 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: It fits. Yeah, yeah, it definitely fits. 90 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: Maximus desmus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North. 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: Looks like it yeah, I think he might be right. Yeah, 92 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: I think that's fair. No, it's incredible. It's reminiscent of 93 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: Joe this year. 94 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: It is this year. 95 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: It is like it's singular greatness that gets swallowed up 96 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: by you know, the opposite sometimes. 97 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: And you know, this was. 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: Always going to be a brutal matchup because of their 99 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: strengths versus our weaknesses. And that's kind of the way 100 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: that it played out. I mean, you're in it at 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: half down nine to seven, you're kind of in it, 102 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: and then it just waterfalled in the third quarter and 103 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: it was done. 104 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: This game played out incredibly similarly to our game in 105 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: Detroit and our game in Baltimore, where the defense for 106 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: the first half did a great job. And let's be honest, 107 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 2: if you're talking about yeah, there are thirty two points 108 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: on the scoreboard, the defense six sacs, two takeaways, three 109 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: of eleven on third down. Now, you could say, well, 110 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: they still averaged six and a half yards of play. 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: There were plenty of chunk plays, and you would be 112 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: correct with that as well, but at some point they 113 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: just get worn down. They give up nine points in 114 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: the first half. They were on the field for Neil 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: Over thirty six minutes in this game. Yeah, and in 116 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: the first half it was worse than that. It was 117 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: a worse split. 118 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 3: I mean, buddy, this's the third quarter. Here are our drives. 119 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: Three for one yard, three for three yards, five for 120 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: eleven yards that ended in an interception. It's thirty to 121 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: seven at the end of the third. Yeah, So so 122 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: you can't I don't care how you could have Miles 123 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: Garrett and the eighty five Bears playing with him defensively 124 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: and you're still okay. 125 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 2: So it was nine to seven at the half, yep. 126 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: And I just gave you the plays from US three 127 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: for one yard, three for three yards, five for eleven 128 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: that's the whole third quarter. 129 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: That's two interceptions we had after our opening drive. Bough 130 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: after the opening drive, we went on seven straight possessions. 131 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: We don't even have the game book. I don't even 132 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: need it. Seven straight possessions that did not produce more 133 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: than twenty yards in a single possession, including one where 134 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: Carson Swesterner got his first interception. We didn't even get 135 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: a first down. We kick a field goal that misses, 136 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: but I wanted to go back this. So halftime in 137 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: Baltimore was ten to three Ravens. Halftime in Detroit was 138 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: twenty to seven, but early it was within three minutes ago. 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: In the first half it was ten to seven, and 140 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: then things got I guess a little unruly there. 141 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's unbelievable. That's Lee Love or is that 142 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Stitch could be either one. My nieces would know for sure, 143 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: they would know that's one of them. Yeah, they just 144 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: got back from Disney. 145 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: That's pretty good, Clark Kent, I mean Maximus right now, 146 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: is that's the most legit costume I've seen. Yeah, that's 147 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: pretty good. There was a Velma that was pretty good. 148 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: Elm it was very good. Yeah, yeah, this is interesting. Yeah, 149 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: but these are games where you're in it, you're in it, 150 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: you're in it, and then it's just blown right open. 151 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, one of the parallels to the Detroit game 152 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: was Andre Schmid misses a field goal and it felt 153 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: like that just took the wind out of everything that 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: was going on in the game, and then it went down. 155 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: Certainly not his fault, don't. I don't want anybody to 156 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: know far of that at all. This is, unfortunately, the 157 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: story of the twenty twenty four Cleveland Browns. This is 158 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: a very good defense, a very good defense. It is 159 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: a defense that is playing as well as it can 160 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: given what it had, has or does not have to 161 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: work with. And now it's a defense. It is one 162 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: hundred percent better at home. It just has been. That's 163 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: been the kind of the past. And the splits are 164 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: getting to be kind of bizarre that they're real. But 165 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: this is an excellent defense, and right now we are 166 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: we are one of the worst offenses in the NFL. 167 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: Our wide receivers on thirty five pass attempts, caught two 168 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: passes in this game two And I got news for you. 169 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: You go back the week before, fewer passes in that one, 170 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: but the wide receivers in that one caught five. So 171 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: if you're going to call in eight quarters of NFL football, 172 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: our wide receivers have caught seven passes seven passes, just 173 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: to put that in perspective, in a game in which 174 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: to a tongue of Ailoa completed twelve passes period, yeah, 175 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: against US, and they had yours. So they completed seventeen 176 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: passes total seven eight eleven twelve, twelve of them went 177 00:09:53,920 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: to wide receivers. We aren't getting the balled. You've talked 178 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: about weapons and the lack of the dearth, the paucity 179 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: for those of you who are getting into sat words, 180 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: and it's tough, it's a tough it's tough. It is 181 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: a tough watch. It is tough to understand how we 182 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: are in this predicament because it is an excellent defense. 183 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: Our running game is now not looking as good, and 184 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: you'd say, well, what's going on. 185 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you. 186 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: We are not Nobody is afraid of us on offense. No, 187 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: they are not afraid. There is no fear on offense. 188 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: And thus their job is to stop the run, and 189 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: so that is exactly what they are trying to do. 190 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: They are trying to stop the run. Quin Shawn Judkins 191 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: in this game nineteen yards rushing, fifteen yards after contact, 192 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: So on average he got hit a half yard downfield. 193 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: Last week, on average, you got hit in the backfield. 194 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: So you could have those together said, Okay, he's getting 195 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: hit aft the line of scrimmage for the last two weeks. 196 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: That's not very good. We knew this was a good 197 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: run defense, and that's why we said go into it. 198 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: This had to be I said. The other one had 199 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 2: to be the Quinn Shawn Judkins game. The Miami one. 200 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: It was I said, this has to be the Dylan 201 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: Gabriel game and it was not. It was no, No, 202 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: it was not no. 203 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: And you know, you you use the weapons, weapons, weapons, 204 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: echoes all the way back to February for us, we 205 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 3: were talking about weapons the whole way. You just looked 206 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: at I mean even in the summer, I was like, gosh, 207 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: is there somebody is there a trade out there? Is 208 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: there somebody on Is there somebody on a roster who's disgruntled. 209 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: I am disgruntled that could come in and give us 210 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: a hand because I just looked at the room and 211 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: I just thought there's not enough there. And then you 212 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: thought that maybe Isaiah Bond could be that. But like, 213 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: this was a guy who comes in late to camp 214 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: and he's basically operating as our number two receiver right now, 215 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: and he does get open deep, deep, but you have 216 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: to be able to get it to him deep and 217 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: right now we're. 218 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: Not for myriad reasons. 219 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: And so, like we've been talking for a while, whether 220 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: you connect on it or not, you have to take 221 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 3: some shots, and you have to take them in the 222 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 3: low of the offense just to make people give pause 223 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: to putting so many people up up near the line 224 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: of scrimmage, and so this is this is kind of 225 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: what comes from it. 226 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: This was a just a touch one go ahead to 227 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: a buttress set. Yeah. Average depth of target is something 228 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: that they they track now in the NFL. Number one 229 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: in the league this year. An average depth of target 230 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: of ten yards is Sam Darnald of like full time 231 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: starter Sam Donold was one, Lamar Jackson nine point six, 232 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: Matt Stafford nine point five. Those were the top three 233 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: in average depth of target of the thirty six quarterbacks 234 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: who played at least twenty percent of their team snaps. 235 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: Vilan Gabriel is thirty six, tied for thirty six, so 236 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: I guess they're thirty seven quarterbacks tied for thirty six 237 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: with Kyler Murray six point four yards average depth of target, 238 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: so the lowest in the NFL, which which checks. And 239 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: he also Ceciliano had a great stat yesterday. He throws 240 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: on third down short of the sticks as much as 241 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: anybody in the NFL. 242 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it feels to me you'd have to you know, 243 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: Kevin would know the answer to this empirically, and Dylan 244 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: would too, But it feels to me like he wants 245 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: it out of his hands as quick as he can, 246 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: and a lot of times, I mean even on the safety, 247 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: that's one where it's like, don't take a sack, don't 248 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: take a sack, don't take a sack. And he just 249 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: got rid of it without anyone being over there. And 250 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: that's what it feels like that it's just got it's 251 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: almost hot potato, like it's got to come out so quick. 252 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: And so when you play that way, then who are 253 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: you throwing to. You're throwing two tight ends and backs 254 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: and you're throwing to them within three between two and 255 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: five yards from the line of scrimmage. That's just not 256 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: a way to go about your business, unfortunately, is it not? 257 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: That now he's two point seven, he's eleventh, eleventh fastest 258 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: to throw. But remember some of the names I gave 259 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: on people who are pushing the ball down the field. 260 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: I said Sam Darnald, I said Aaron Matthew Stafford. They're 261 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: two point six and two point six three, So. 262 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: They're getting the ball out faster on average than Dylan 263 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: Gabriel and Yarnald. Here, Sam Darnald and Matt Stafford. Okay, 264 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: and yeah, their depth of target are amongst Sam Darnald's 265 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: number one in the NFL over ten which compared to six. 266 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: I mean that is a monster difference forty yards of pass. 267 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: It sure is. 268 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: He also has Jackson Smith and Jigba and the other 269 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 3: one's got DeVante Adams and Pukinnakua. So there's that part. 270 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: All this, Mary's it all marries and it all there's 271 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: not a coincidence in any of this, like it all 272 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: marries together. It's just a tough on offense, it is. 273 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: It's very difficult. It's very difficult. I mean, we've we 274 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: had Joe Flacco here and and Joe flat now they 275 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: lost because they gave up twenty three points in the 276 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: fourth quarter, which just stupefying. But the Joe Flacco in 277 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: since you know what he's doing, do you have any 278 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: times he threw it to Jamar Chase you want to say, 279 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: eighteen twenty three, I'm sorry, nineteen to Chase this week 280 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: twenty three, the week before to Chase. He's started to 281 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase forty one times in the last two games. 282 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: Feels good if you have Jamar Chase in fantasy, it 283 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like out of PPR. 284 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: He's doing quite well, although he didn't even have one 285 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: hundred yards in the one yesterday. But that's we digress 286 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: all of these things, Mary, and it's like there is 287 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: such as how many times did you and I talk 288 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: about a specific needle to thread. It's a difficult needle 289 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: to thread with this offensive approach. There's a there's one 290 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: very specific path to getting wins. And when you play 291 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: teams like the one we played Sunday, everything has to 292 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: go your way and you got to pick and you 293 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: sacked him six times and it's still it's not enough. 294 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were outscore twenty one nothing in that third quarter. Right, sorry, Right, 295 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: that's that's six sacks and two interceptions. That is that's 296 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: eight big time defensive plays. Yeah, and we had a 297 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: ton of tackles for a loss. I mean, Alex Wright 298 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: had three of them. He's got a new career high. 299 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: He's playing well. 300 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: It's just. 301 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: No defense can hold it. And by the way, you 302 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: want evidence about our defense, Miami Dolphins hung thirty four 303 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: on the Falcons this week. Yeah, we held this six Yeah, 304 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: thirty four they hung on the Falcons. Yeah. By the way, 305 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: think I just saw stone cold Steve Austin that I 306 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: wanted to walk back this way. I thought that looked. 307 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no no no no no no. 308 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: I would like to see I want to see that. 309 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. I don't know Hoppy Dog Hot did 310 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: you kids? 311 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 5: What? 312 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse of course, the best Man 313 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: you guys, the. 314 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 6: Rest of the day, guys. I just got that out. 315 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, keV just got it out. I mean it's 316 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: like yeah like that. Yeah, that was Luke. 317 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: He'll he'll be there, he'll be that's all timeless. You're 318 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: gonna get You're gonna get steady, steady diet of Bluey 319 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: coming down here. Don't know blue Oh, You're gonna thrive 320 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: with Bluey. 321 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna enjoy it. 322 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great, really, Yeah, unbelieve grand baby. You can 323 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 4: put it on and you'd laugh because there's a lot 324 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: of things, a lot of stuff for you. O. 325 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: God, that Stone Cold Steve Austin's music. 326 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: That is, oh my gosh, it's pretty convinced. 327 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: That Papa Blind Mice good. 328 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 4: I needed nothing to see here. 329 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: That's nice. Yeah, you're gonna like the Bluey. Uh, well, 330 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get him. He's gonna get on because when 331 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: I was kidd my fair was the Gummy Bears. And 332 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: I had the kids going through the gun Bears, bears 333 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: bouncing here, there and everywhere. We did that. We did 334 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 2: the people say it's high adventure beyond compare. 335 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did a lot of the Gummy Bears. I 336 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: did a lot of the g I Joe and all 337 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: of that. So, yeah, sure you need Jake in the 338 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: Neverland Pirates. 339 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: Oh they loved it. Yeah, j It's great. 340 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: Jake's great. 341 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: They'll run all that back. Oh yeah, that's great. Yeah, Lucas, 342 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: he's in for a real treat. 343 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have all this information to share with him. 344 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: You can really wait. 345 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: Injury update, Tyson Campbell in concussion protocol, Quinchawn Judkins with 346 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 3: the shoulder, ray Shawn Jenkins growing. 347 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: They are day to day. 348 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: But of course the bye week seems like we did 349 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: get some decent news on Sweassenger, but Kevin wasn't as 350 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: specific in his availability. Do I have this right? I 351 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: thought I saw this morning from Rapaport and among others 352 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: that it wasn't maybe that he had the high ankle spring, 353 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: but maybe not as bad as they typically are, and 354 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: it was going to be more of a more of 355 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: a day to day thing with Swessenger. 356 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: But I didn't get anything from Kevin. Did you guys 357 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: hear anything. He said that it is a it's an ankle, 358 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: but that he might not need to go on I R, 359 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: which would be nice because he's been so so Our 360 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: booth in New England, Sedric Tillman expected back after the 361 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: bye week. By the way, is so low, like you 362 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: can walk down one flight of stairs in the crowd 363 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: and you're on the field. That's nice. So it's nice. 364 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: It was a little bit, although I think I felt 365 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: like I saw the passing game as I thought, well, 366 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: oh my god, my good pointing going on. It was 367 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: useful pointing. But what was cool about it is we 368 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: were behind the Browns bench, which I don't know at 369 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: any stadium we've ever been behind the Browns bench our 370 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: rmally it's behind the home team's bench everywhere you go 371 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: except our stadium. So that was cool to be able 372 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: to like see the sideline and really see it. And 373 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: then so all the Browns fans and friends and family 374 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: were there as well, and Sweesterner's like whole family was 375 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: there so he got the pick. They were all going 376 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: nuts and we got to see that kind of right 377 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: in front of us. Then obviously It was a bummer 378 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: that he ended up getting hurt, but I'm glad it's 379 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 2: just an angle. The Tyson campbellon was really scary because 380 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: it was he basically got knead in the head by 381 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: Devin Bush, who was trying to get out of the 382 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: way when they went down as he tackled Steffon Diggs 383 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: near the goal line. 384 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 385 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: No, no costumes for those guys. No costumes, noluminaries. 386 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: All right. 387 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: One thing, we. 388 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: Pay homage to the great late Nick Mangol. Pretty shocking 389 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: former Ohio State Buckeye. He's a Centerville kid, he went 390 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 3: to Kettering Altar. I didn't know Nick. I interviewed him 391 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 3: a handful of times, but I'm really good friends with 392 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: people who knew him well. And as as great of 393 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: a player, and you're talking about a seven time Pro bowler, 394 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: you're talking about three time at least three time All 395 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: Pro two I think first team, one, second team, just 396 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: a better dad, father, coach, coach youth football in New Jersey. 397 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: You saw the video, I'm sure of Rex Ryan among others, 398 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: Damian Woody among others, with the outpouring of emotion for him, 399 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: it was just so shocking and sudden He put out 400 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: that plea eleven days before on the fourteenth, that he 401 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: was in dire straits, But I don't think anybody thought 402 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: it was that dire. Talking to folks closer to him 403 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: and to his family, it seemed like they was thinking 404 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: they'd have a few months rather than eleven days. And 405 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: so just our thoughts and prayers with the family, Jennifer's 406 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: wife and the four kids. Just a stunning thing at 407 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: age forty one. Just a man's man, an incredible family man, 408 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 3: incredible teammate. He was part of a group of guys 409 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: along with Mike DeAndrea and Bobby Carpenter and Ajhawk and him, 410 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: that kind of all came in in the same class. 411 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 3: It was Tressel's first class of recruits, and it was 412 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: buoyed by this incredible talent in the state, and he 413 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: was thrust into action, if memory serves, early in his 414 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: freshman year there was an injury to the center. He 415 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: got thrust in the San Diego State game, and he 416 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: basically started for four years, is what it amounted to, 417 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 3: and was an All American and all those things, and 418 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: always just carried himself with a great amount of class 419 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: and dignity and kindness, and I saw him on the 420 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: Buckeye Cruise a couple of times and was always there 421 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 3: for fans and everything. And it's just stupefying and saddened 422 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 3: to have at forty one, to have life end in 423 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 3: a situation like that. So our thoughts and prayers to 424 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: the Mangold family and just a legendary Ohioan and a 425 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: legendary Buckeye as well. He passed away at the age 426 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 3: of forty. 427 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: It's brutal. 428 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: Those are your hot topics today, presented by University Hospital, 429 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: official healthcare partner of your Cleveland Browns. This season, checked 430 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: the Browns social channels daily to play our digital scratch 431 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: off game for your chance to win club seats and 432 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: other great prizes, presented by the Ohio Lottery, proud partner 433 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 3: of your Cleveland Browns. 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When you 457 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 3: watch the film now compared to those couple of instances 458 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: or when it was humming at its best offensively, what 459 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: are the differences that you notice. 460 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 7: Well, there's there's basic things like execution certainly that I mean, 461 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 7: like you draw some of these things up on a whiteboard, 462 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 7: and there's pathways to this working conceptually. Right, That's definitely, 463 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 7: definitely true. There's also, you know, on top of you know, 464 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 7: schematic issues or whatever you want to call them, the 465 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 7: personnel failures are happening, right, I think I think Joel 466 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 7: talked about this today. It's usually one guy on a 467 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 7: play missing a down block, not pulling for the right 468 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 7: guy not getting to the spot on the second level 469 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 7: to get, or a quarterback missing a read or a 470 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 7: running back missing a cut. I mean, this is how 471 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 7: it goes. Most bad offenses in the NFL are driven 472 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 7: by a failure and execution, which sounds like coach speak, 473 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 7: but that is what's happening here. And on top of that, 474 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 7: I don't think that they have a very good identity 475 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 7: collectively as a team. I mean, you go back and 476 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 7: you know, if you want to look at you know, 477 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 7: the specific you know data, they're much more of a 478 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 7: zone wide, zone running team in those days, and based 479 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 7: a lot of their play action and ability to drive 480 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 7: the football you know, downfield, based on that ability to 481 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 7: you know, match and mirror their pass and their run. 482 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 7: Really well, that's not the case anymore. I think they 483 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 7: they live in a world where they probably need to 484 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 7: be in the gun more often, but you don't necessarily 485 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 7: have a quarterback that is able to thrive and drop 486 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 7: back from the gun. But also, like the run game 487 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 7: suffers a little bit, but they're also not able to 488 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 7: manipulate things up front in the run game the way 489 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 7: they did when guys were a little bit younger up there, 490 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 7: and maybe you had more experience in a running back 491 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 7: in Nick Chubf. So I just feels to me like 492 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 7: eight weeks in, they don't really know who they are. 493 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 7: They don't have a great feel for what they want 494 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 7: to try to accomplish with, Like what are our guys 495 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 7: really good at? So to be like on the most 496 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 7: vanilla form, you know form possible here is like this 497 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 7: team is getting older on the offensive side, speaking only upfront, 498 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 7: and that has led to some failure to execute up 499 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 7: front as crisply as they used to. And they don't 500 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 7: have as dynamic skill talent as the Jarvis Odell you know, 501 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 7: Nick days when Chief was a little bit younger. You know, 502 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 7: those things are happening in front of them, and I 503 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 7: think from that world, they haven't really altered who they 504 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 7: are to get to a spot where they're a bit 505 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 7: healthier on offense. They haven't changed that identity. And not 506 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 7: to say they haven't, because I feel like they tried 507 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 7: to last year, but this year going back and reverting 508 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 7: to a little bit more of who they were, you 509 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 7: know in those previous years, it's not working the same way. 510 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 7: So you know, there's so many many details inside of that, 511 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 7: but it just feels like, Hey, this snap, we're gonna 512 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 7: try to be Dix offensive lineman, two tight ends, run 513 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 7: the football into a loaded box. Next play, we're gonna 514 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 7: try to get into eleven personnel see if we can 515 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 7: identify a passing mismatch. And it's like, okay, well, what 516 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 7: are you doing that gives you a baseline of success 517 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 7: that helps you build off of it. The teams have 518 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 7: to take away and as you get into a world 519 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 7: where you can't push the football downfield organically, you can't 520 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 7: run dynamically outside the tackle box the way you used to. 521 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 7: Everything condenses down. Defenses play tighter to the line of scrimmage. 522 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 7: They're less afraid of things behind them. Happening, and you 523 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 7: get a lot of snaps where it feels like that 524 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 7: play was dead upon arrival, and that's the world they're in, 525 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 7: and that makes everything really challenging. 526 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I. 527 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: Mean you see that a lot of times. It feels like, 528 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: even pre snap, that that things are going to be 529 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: in a very very bad situation for the Cleveland Browns. 530 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: But I think one thing that a lot of people 531 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: notice is that there are opportunities at least a couple 532 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: times a game down the field for this offense, and 533 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: the ball just never seems to go there. What would 534 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: you say, you know, how can we fix this and 535 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: get the passing game going? Iquin John Jenkins is very good. 536 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: I think if we are able to block it up 537 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: for him, we're gonna be just fine. But in terms 538 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: of the passing game, you know, we had a bust, 539 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: busted coverage, couldn't get the ball down to Isaiahahon. How 540 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: do we how do we get this passing game working 541 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: down the field? Yeah? 542 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 7: I mean, great question. I think that's the challenge. They're 543 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 7: trying to process out some snaps. They're trying to max protect, 544 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 7: and what I mean by that is keeping a tight 545 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 7: end in keeping maybe even two in including a back 546 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 7: and trying to give the quarterback as much time to 547 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 7: find an answer downfield. I think some snaps they're trying 548 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 7: to put more guys into the rout concepts to open 549 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 7: up different portions of the field. I mean, it sounds 550 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 7: again very vanilla, and it's almost it's almost. It's not 551 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 7: a cop out of things, but they when they have 552 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 7: those opportunities, one guy is failing, right, Like there's an 553 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 7: example from the game last week where the quarterback doesn't 554 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 7: see the rail routes running wide open and doesn't throw 555 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 7: it to him. The week before, it was a max 556 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 7: protect takeoff. Isaiah Bond runs up the left sideline and 557 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 7: it's wide open and we don't get to it because 558 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 7: our eyes never find it right and that happens right, 559 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 7: These are a third round quarterback playing. You go back 560 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 7: and look at the history of third round quarterbacks playing 561 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 7: the guys who usually find the most successful when everybody 562 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 7: around them is playing really good football, And I think 563 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 7: this kind of harkens back to your question. There are 564 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 7: other opportunities to find throws downfield where if one player 565 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 7: doesn't have a leak in pass protection, they can get 566 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 7: to it and that's like the thing that keeps happening. 567 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 7: A route gets run, it's on the money, it's delivered, 568 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 7: it's dropped. The next play a guy loses a block 569 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 7: up front, so we don't get the eyes to that 570 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 7: spot on the field that you want to get to. 571 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 7: And then the next play it's a quarterback doesn't see it. 572 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 7: And I think, you know, when you're this young at quarterback, 573 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 7: and if they do end up going to shadors also 574 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 7: young and inexperience. These are growing pains that are going 575 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 7: to happen. But like ultimately, the guys who have had 576 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 7: that third round or later success, and even if you 577 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 7: lump in the second round or later guys, they come 578 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 7: into situations where everybody is propping the guy up at quarterback. 579 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 7: And right now, and I'm not saying anything that players 580 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 7: in the locker room aren't saying, especially even today, they're 581 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 7: not playing well enough. And if they're not playing well enough, 582 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 7: then the quarterback is going to struggle. And listen, I 583 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 7: think we can all agree that the quarterback isn't overcoming 584 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 7: any of those obstacles, is not creating out of structure. 585 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 7: They're not getting much of that. But I'm just like 586 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 7: it's a multi layered issue that doesn't really have a 587 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 7: quick fix other than you know, guys have to do 588 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 7: their job. All eleven have to do their job cohesively. 589 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 7: And then there's probably like five or six quarterbacks in 590 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 7: the world who, when eleven are doing their job, can 591 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 7: still make a play out of a play that's da 592 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 7: right the dead on arrival. And they don't have one 593 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 7: of those right now. So if that's the case, then 594 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 7: you better find a way to be better within structure. 595 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 7: And the execution is really rough. It's really rough, and 596 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 7: I don't think there's enough creativity in how they're going 597 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 7: about seeking out some of those plays that can put 598 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 7: them into a bit more of an advantageous spop. Again, 599 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 7: that's the very nuanced discussion as well, But like it's 600 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 7: just it's a top down failure that is just rendering 601 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 7: a poor result on almost every one of those downfield 602 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 7: opportunities because there's not a ton of them a team 603 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 7: gets per game. You got to hit on. If you 604 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 7: get eight or nine chances, you gotta find a way 605 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 7: to hit three or four of them at minimum, and 606 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 7: the Browns are lucky to find one right now. And 607 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 7: I know you guys know this, but like the perfect 608 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 7: example is the first play, a first drive touchdown. That's 609 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 7: a beautiful design. That's a fullback insert design where Harrold 610 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 7: Fannin's in the backfield, he's running through the line of 611 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 7: scrimmage to sell run and then he's the a he's 612 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 7: the intermediate route on a corner route. And you know, 613 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 7: usually flood concepts have a deeper middle in a shallow 614 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 7: instead of having the fullback slide outside the tackle box 615 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 7: and be the flat, which is very common football one 616 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 7: oh one for decades. You put him through the line 617 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 7: of scrimmage like he's blocking and then convert him to 618 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 7: a corner. There's nobody around him. They're not getting to 619 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 7: enough of those creative things that make defenses really think. 620 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 7: They hit Malachi Corley on a nice little jet sweep 621 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 7: and then they never really leveraged that success on the 622 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 7: jets suite to create anything off of it. Hey, we 623 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 7: use the jet sweep, busted it for thirty one yards. 624 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 7: How about we use that in a specific way to 625 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 7: run play action where we fake that we toss it 626 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 7: to the perimeter and use it as a run action. 627 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 7: How About we use it off play action where we 628 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 7: have him sell that and then we'll kind of boot 629 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 7: out and throw a screen back to him. I'm just 630 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 7: saying like, and I'm not trying to be like I 631 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 7: could coach the Cleveland Browns here, but I'm just saying 632 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 7: they don't really seem to have an identity of layering 633 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 7: what they're doing, what they're finding some success with, to 634 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 7: leverage other parts of success. It feels very much like 635 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 7: call what you think is going to work based on 636 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 7: the down and there's no like setting something up in 637 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 7: the first quarter that you you render a successful result 638 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 7: in the third or fourth quarter. That's where they're struggling 639 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 7: right now. 640 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: And what's so strange about that is what you just 641 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: described is what the what the sequencing that we raved 642 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: about years ago, you know when in the beginning when yeah, 643 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: and you know, was this sets up this, which happens 644 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: here and then they'd make this variation off they. 645 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: Touched down against Tennessee was something we had set up 646 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: like the week before. 647 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: Right like, yeah, yeah, there was all that, and we 648 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: knew this was always going to be a difficult needle 649 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: to thread, Jake, because you knew that there were deficiencies 650 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 3: in the weapons game. You knew that especially if there 651 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: were injuries at tackle that that could be a little 652 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: bit of a struggle. And then this is the youngest 653 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: quarterback room in the NFL. I mean we have two 654 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: rookies and Bailey z appy like that's what this has 655 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 3: turned into now. So just a really young raw group. 656 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: But you mentioned that first drive where you go down 657 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: and you you mentioned the design on the play to 658 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: fan and that what is the walk in touchdown? And 659 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: it's seven to three? Okay, let's go what did New 660 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: England do in the drives that followed that that made 661 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: whatever success we had in that first drive go away? 662 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: Or what did we not do that we did do 663 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: on the first drive? 664 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to be careful because, like you know, 665 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 7: I don't want to say they're never trying to build 666 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 7: plays off of other plays. I think two weeks ago 667 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 7: was a really good example of what they were. I'm 668 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 7: kind of trying to jar Browns fans memory here a 669 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 7: little bit, But two weeks ago they were using this 670 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 7: sort of hybrid tight end. They would put an extra 671 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 7: offensive lineman in the wing, which was Luke Whipler they 672 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 7: used in that game against Pittsburgh, and then they would 673 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 7: put a tight end just outside of him, and they 674 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 7: used that formation to run on the first play, and 675 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 7: then they came back to it and tried to get 676 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 7: a big play action where they put in Joku and 677 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 7: Fanin in the same alignment and booted off of it 678 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 7: and had Isaiah Bond on a vertical touchdown up the 679 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 7: left sideline, but the quarterback never gave it any attention 680 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 7: and threw the bond. I think he threw it over 681 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 7: the middle to Thrash on a drag and like they're trying, 682 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 7: I'm not saying they're not trying. What I'm saying is 683 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 7: they're not successful with what they're trying to do here. 684 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 7: So your question about, hey, they did this on the 685 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 7: first drive. The plays that they hit big, they didn't 686 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 7: really revisit wrinkles of those throughout this game. I didn't 687 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 7: see much of Fannin in the backfield after this. I 688 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 7: certainly didn't see any play action similar to that, and 689 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 7: I don't think I think Corley only had four snaps 690 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 7: in the game, so they didn't really leverage that. So 691 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 7: those are the two things that really work. 692 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 6: Now. 693 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 7: They hit a nice drag route on a third and 694 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 7: long that Fannin took for like nineteen yards up the 695 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 7: left sideline, but that was just a bust in coverage 696 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 7: that they were able to find with the safety driving 697 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 7: down on in man coverage with late getting there. There 698 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 7: were three big chunk plays, the second being Quarterly's thirty 699 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 7: one yard run and then obviously the touchdown throw up 700 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 7: the right sideline, but they didn't really visit those two things. 701 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 7: It really became very much they couldn't run it. They 702 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 7: only had nine runs for Judkins on the day. A 703 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 7: lot of loaded boxes, a lot of people inside of 704 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 7: tight spaces. They really don't want to put the football 705 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 7: on the perimeter very much in the run game, which 706 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 7: to me is like that really is hard to just 707 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 7: run between the town. You saw a lot of what 708 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 7: New England likes to do, and teams keep doing it 709 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 7: where they're influencing linebackers, like pulling a guard and the opposite, 710 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 7: like linebackers read a guard. That's like football one oh 711 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,959 Speaker 7: one when you're in middle school. Hey, if the guard 712 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 7: steps down, you go here at the guard pools, you 713 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 7: go there. This kind of stuff, and their teams are 714 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 7: influencing the Browns defense by putting guards opposite of a 715 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 7: tossout and. 716 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: If you watch. 717 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 7: A lot of successful concepts are driven in this game 718 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 7: to Trevion Henderson on the perimeter, based on influencing linebackers, 719 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 7: and like, the Browns are just running a very vanilla 720 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 7: run scheme that doesn't really stress the lateral fifty three 721 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 7: yards across the field. It's inside the tackle box and 722 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 7: that's hard to run on. And then when your run 723 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 7: game renders nineteen yards on nine carries from your best player, 724 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 7: building anything off of that is really challenging because teams 725 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 7: are not afraid at the safety level and corner level 726 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 7: to hey, I got to fit the run here, or 727 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 7: we can be in trouble now I'll slow play it. 728 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 7: And then you start throwing trick plays out like a 729 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 7: double pass or a flee flicker, and nobody's honoring it 730 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 7: in the back half because what rush do I have 731 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 7: to play forward? So that's why they're struggling. They're not 732 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 7: able to find explosives, and teams don't respect their ability 733 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 7: to find explosives and are playing them accordingly. So until 734 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 7: they're always playing in the rug answer, it's a condensed 735 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 7: field all the time. 736 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's red zone is very difficult to operate 737 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: in because it's taken ends field, and so if you 738 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: do that all the time, that's tough. Hopefully, you know, 739 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: they're going to go through sell scouts, they're going to 740 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 2: take these two weeks and and hopefully we can come 741 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 2: up with something that gets it going and when it 742 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: is there, because there have been plays to be made 743 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: that you know, Dylan sees it and is willing to 744 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 2: deliver the football on some of those vertical shots. Now, defensively, 745 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: I said that this reminds me of some of the 746 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: other road games where you do a really good job, 747 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, Ben, but don't break you only have three 748 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 2: field goals in the first half, but just kind of 749 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 2: being on the field so much it wears on this defense. 750 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 2: But we did see a singularly great performance from Miles 751 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 2: Garrett that is it's you don't want that to be 752 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: lost in the result. Alex right three tackles for loss. 753 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: He's having a great year and looks like somebody that 754 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: they want to, you know, give a contract to to 755 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: keep him here with with the Browns. You know, defensively, 756 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: at least, what are you seeing in terms of the 757 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: good and then is it just a simple matter of 758 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: over time? You know, if your offense isn't producing. We 759 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: had seven straight drives that didn't gain more than twenty yards. 760 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: That nobody can play defense for that long. 761 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 7: No, there's yeah, like to the point of getting getting 762 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 7: mad at the defense is certainly like if you step 763 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 7: back and look at all of it, it's kind of 764 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 7: it's kind of challenging. But they did give up four 765 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 7: hundred and eleven yards. I mean that's a lot. And 766 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 7: there's no doubt that the ability of Drake may is 767 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 7: certainly his ability to step up, run and create when 768 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 7: something's not there is probably still underrated across the NFL. 769 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 7: I thought he had a good game. The Browns did 770 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 7: do a good job of bending. I think teams have 771 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 7: a real identifiable way to run the football on them 772 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 7: actually pushing the perimeter with pen poll concepts where you're 773 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 7: penning the defensive end inside pulling alignment and the tight 774 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 7: end usually or an extra running back outside to take 775 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 7: care of linebackers scraping. So there's some stuff here that 776 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 7: is schemed up. I was very interested they went such 777 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 7: heavy zone last week against TUA in Miami, like the 778 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 7: lowest percentage of man percentage that they have played in 779 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 7: a game. In Jim Schwartz tenure according to True True Media, 780 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 7: which is a big data collection company. So that was like, okay, 781 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 7: are they going to try to double down on that 782 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 7: and try to be different. I thought maybe it was like, Okay, 783 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 7: Raves knows us, let's be different this week and kind 784 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 7: of give them something. Next. They were back to like 785 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 7: seventy five percent man in this game, and the Patriots 786 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 7: after halftime said, all right, if that's how they're going 787 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 7: to play us, we're gonna put these run schemes in 788 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 7: action that stress it. We're gonna give them run action 789 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 7: stuff that makes guys those guys who have multiple you know, 790 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 7: you know task on a play he has to play 791 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 7: the D gap but also have this player in coverage 792 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 7: like Mac Collins and the going for like eighty yards 793 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 7: off of concepts where they're just run actioning and stressing 794 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 7: sort of man defense and putting them in a tough 795 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 7: spot in a buying. So yeah, the second half was, Hey, 796 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 7: they had a great plan at halftime of like, hey, 797 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 7: they're gonna go back to who they've always been. They're 798 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 7: playing a bunch of men. Let's put our man beaters 799 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 7: in place and act accordingly. And the Brown still did 800 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 7: a nice job of making Drake may hold onto the 801 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 7: ball at times. You don't get six sacks unless you're 802 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 7: making that young man hold onto the ball, because Miles 803 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 7: sacks were not often done without him getting blocked by 804 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 7: a chipper for like a full second and then go. 805 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 7: So it's not like they weren't making Drake think at times. 806 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 7: It's just they had the right action in place, hit 807 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 7: the right home run balls. The ball to Kaseean booty up, 808 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 7: the double move was a beautiful throw. It's not a 809 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 7: total failure, but they're just when they get figured out. 810 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 7: And I thought McDaniels did a great job at halftime 811 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 7: of like, that's how they're gonna play. It's here's our answer, 812 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 7: and then twenty one third quarter points and the game's over. 813 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 7: I mean, it's just that that's that's the nature of it. 814 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 7: So you know, I'm sure New England was not panicking 815 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 7: based on what my I also said. I said a 816 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 7: couple of days before he went out and said it, 817 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 7: which was ironic that like, hey, defenses are opposing teams. No, 818 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 7: let's get some points on the board. We can play 819 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 7: smart and take advantage of opportunistic stuff because we're not 820 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 7: going to really have to chase the scoreboard a ton, 821 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 7: So it felt like a lot of that, and they 822 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 7: schemed him up at the perfect times, caught Dom Jones 823 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 7: once there, and all of a sudden, it's kind of 824 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 7: off and. 825 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: Running, you know. 826 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 7: So it's an interesting game plan for Schwartz to kind 827 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 7: of really roll back into man coverage, and it felt 828 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 7: like McDaniel's had a real feel for when they did that, 829 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 7: how to how to combat that in the second half. 830 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: Is Miles what he's doing right now in spite of 831 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 2: everything that else that's going on around him, all the 832 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 2: attention he's getting is this is this one of the 833 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 2: singularly great seasons and he's got fifteen. 834 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 3: Tackles for a loss in ten sacks in eight games. 835 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 7: Well, he's This is going to sound crazy, but he's 836 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 7: been better before. I mean, the pressure rates aren't astronomical 837 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 7: and he usually puts up. I'm a believer that the 838 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 7: pressure rate matters more than sacks. So like he's having 839 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 7: a great season. I think he's had better seasons. But yeah, 840 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 7: I mean this is like Michael Jordan ninety eight versus 841 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 7: ninety six stuff here, Like you know what I mean, 842 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 7: Like this this guy's extremely obviously extremely talented and is 843 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 7: as good as it gets to the position. And that's 844 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 7: what makes it so challenging to have this outcome in 845 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 7: place where he's doing these special things and they can't 846 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 7: leverage it, because boy, if you had and I don't 847 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 7: know this specifically, I'd love to look it up. And 848 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 7: I'm not trying to just compare him to TJ. Watt, 849 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 7: but thinking about other players at the position who have 850 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 7: had success with his timeline because they were in the 851 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 7: same draft. How many times has Watt rushed with his 852 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 7: team in the lead versus how many times Miles has 853 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 7: had that opportunity? 854 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 3: Man much much more, manymore. 855 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 7: That's kind of the point is like, how difficult how 856 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 7: much easier life could be if he was playing seventy 857 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 7: percent of a season with the deposing offense was chasing 858 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 7: the score board in even a more neutral way. Guys 859 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 7: like a more neutral way sure where it's within one 860 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 7: score type of stuff. So what he's able to do 861 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 7: given some of the difficulties around him is why it's 862 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 7: starting to feel like the guy's just like he's a 863 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 7: sure ballot Hall of Famer, but he wants to win 864 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 7: the sideline stuff to helmet. He wants to he wants 865 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 7: to win, and they got to find a way to 866 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 7: pay these veterans off who have been here, Denzel and Grant, 867 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 7: some of these guys. They got to start winning, man. 868 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 7: So that's the hope. But he's yeah, I mean, he's 869 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 7: a unicorn. He's a unicorn. 870 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: Thanks, buddy, appreciate you. 871 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 7: Jake, Yes, Hey, thanks for having me, guys anytime. 872 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 3: All right, There he goes Jake Burns for the Browns 873 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 3: Film Breakdown. You can follow him on x at Brown's 874 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: Film bd N is where you will get that. 875 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 2: We'll head to the podium. 876 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 3: Coming up next to listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on 877 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 3: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 878 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, 879 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: presented by bally Bett Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner 880 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 881 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 3: Add more fun to your fan of the ballet Bet 882 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 3: Sportsbook app downloads today, get fifty back in bonus bets 883 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 3: you place your first wager of ten or more. 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You know, we'll 892 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 6: see how he looks coming into out of the buy, 893 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 6: but I'd say that's really like a week to week 894 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 6: type injury. 895 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 4: You know. 896 00:43:54,120 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 6: Obviously, like we talked about yesterday evening, frustrating on a 897 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 6: bunch of different levels not to play our best, not 898 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 6: to coach our best in that game, and then you know, 899 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 6: just that frustration will lead to us looking at how 900 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 6: to get better. And that's where this buy will be 901 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 6: huge for this football team. You know, we still got 902 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 6: more than half of the season left, but we got 903 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 6: to make some definitely have to look at it and 904 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 6: as as a coaching staff, look at it and find 905 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 6: ways to set our players up for success. And that's 906 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 6: what our sole focus will be this week. With that, 907 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 6: I'll take any questions. 908 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 8: Kevin with Carson there's a report there's a high ankle, 909 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 8: and if so, is IR a possibility for him? 910 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. I'm not going to get in the specifics of it, Scott, 911 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 6: but I don't believe this will be IR. 912 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 8: Okay, And then is do you expect Cedric Tillman to 913 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 8: come back following the buy I do? And last thing 914 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 8: on that just receiver corps? How much do you miss 915 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 8: the size out there in just a bunch of different ways. 916 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, Listen, we would like the guys we got. Obviously 917 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 6: we have some guys are smaller, fast, that type of thing, 918 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 6: but we like the guys we got. But it would 919 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 6: be good to have said back. 920 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, Kevin, when you talk about what you can do, 921 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 9: and yesterday you mentioned that you're going to stick with 922 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 9: with Dylan going forward, when you talk about looking at 923 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 9: every single thing, I mean is play calling? I mean like, 924 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 9: is that something that you'll look at when you think 925 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 9: about letting Tommy have a shot at it, or you know, 926 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 9: what are some of the things that you actually can 927 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 9: do to change things over the spot? 928 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I need to spend time on all 929 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 6: those things, Mary Kay, and I think it's by position 930 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 6: we have to be better, and we have to put 931 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 6: our players in better spots, if you will, and that 932 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 6: includes every position. So we'll look at all of it 933 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 6: this week and make a decision coming out of the buy. 934 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 10: Kevin land Tommy throughout this kept saying we have to 935 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 10: put our players in better positions. So since you've been 936 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 10: trying to do that since the first game, can what 937 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 10: more can be done? Well? 938 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 6: I think the big picture there, Jeff, is to have 939 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 6: success as an offense, you have to be efficient in 940 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 6: what you're doing, and you have to be explosive and 941 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 6: what you're doing. And in order to do that, we 942 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,479 Speaker 6: have to put guys in certain spots, put them in 943 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 6: whatever position it may be at wide receiver, tight end, 944 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 6: running back, if you will, and find ways to maximize 945 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 6: their skill set. So when you're not having the success 946 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 6: that we need to be having and we're working towards 947 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 6: obviously we're not doing enough. So you're constantly looking at 948 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 6: different players, different ways, the routes that they can run, run, 949 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 6: concepts that they can run, So you have to continue 950 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 6: to search for those things so that you can be 951 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 6: efficient and then ultimately explosive. 952 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 10: Thank you, yeah, Kevin. 953 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 5: You guys seem to be somewhat excited in the draft 954 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 5: to get Dylan Gabriel in the third round, and obviously 955 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 5: he's not shown maybe some of those things that you 956 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 5: guys saw coming out of colle It's just, you know, 957 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,280 Speaker 5: what's been missing in these four starts as far as 958 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 5: bringing out some of those traits that really got you 959 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 5: guys as an organization excited about him. 960 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's like you, as you know, Darryl, 961 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 6: this is playing good on offense is about eleven guys 962 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 6: on the field and us as coaches doing our job. Obviously, 963 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 6: young players will will learn in each outing that they're 964 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 6: out there. I think Dylan will continue to learn, will 965 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 6: continue to get better. But it's really an entire offensive 966 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 6: type of thing where we all need to be better. 967 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,959 Speaker 5: And it seems like we're going to talk to Andrew 968 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 5: this week, but just for you, you know, going back 969 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 5: to last season and it's obviously been a difficult stretch 970 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 5: here for the organization, just you know, how has this 971 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 5: been for you to kind of, you know, get through 972 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 5: these growing pains as you guys try and find your 973 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 5: footing again. 974 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's football. There's ups and downs to a game. 975 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 6: There's ups and downs to a season. We'll take a 976 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 6: breath here, players. Certainly we'll get refreshed and we'll be 977 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 6: ready for the final nine of the regular season. 978 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 11: Hey Kevin, No, I know we've talked a lot over 979 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 11: the last several weeks about the passing game. Are you 980 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 11: noticing defenses starting to really really start to overload the box? 981 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 11: You know, almost dare you to try to throw deep 982 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 11: or doing things defensively, you know, because of what because 983 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 11: of what you guys haven't been able to do in 984 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 11: that aspect. 985 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 2: Of the game. 986 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 6: I think every game is different, Chris. Every defense has 987 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 6: has a different plan week to week. You know, sometimes 988 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 6: it can be disguised. Sometimes it can be like you're 989 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 6: mentioning a seven or eight man box, but it really 990 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 6: we've seen all different types of defenses throughout the season. 991 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 12: Hey, Kevin, A few of the guys we're talking about, 992 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 12: you know, with the run kind of along those lines. 993 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 12: The lack of production on early downs hurting you guys. 994 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 12: I mean, how much does that impact the play calling, 995 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 12: especially when you're facing so many third and longs even 996 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 12: earlier in the game. 997 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a key to being successful on offense. 998 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 6: Ashley is having success on early downs, whether you run 999 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 6: or pass it to either stay out of third down 1000 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 6: or stay into third and manageable distances. And I think 1001 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 6: too often in that game we didn't do a good 1002 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 6: enough job on first down, and that led to not 1003 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,760 Speaker 6: staying on the field. The time of possession was such 1004 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 6: that we weren't able to, you know, remain on the 1005 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 6: field get to plays that we wanted to get to. 1006 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 6: And you're really you end up running out of time 1007 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 6: there if you're not doing your job on first and 1008 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:45,919 Speaker 6: second down. 1009 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 12: And I know you got asked about Jerry yesterday, but 1010 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 12: just the fact that he didn't get a target until 1011 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 12: early in the fourth quarter, like, like, what needs to 1012 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 12: happen to get him involved earlier? And are you guys 1013 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 12: worried at all about you know, frustration with him with 1014 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 12: how the year has gone. 1015 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'm frustrated with that loss. I'm frustrated 1016 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,479 Speaker 6: that we don't get the ball to Jerry, our best 1017 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 6: wide receiver, earlier in that game and throughout that game. Now, 1018 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 6: are there always reasons for those type of things, Sure, 1019 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 6: but it's not lost on me that Jerry is our 1020 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 6: best player at that position and we have to get 1021 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 6: him in the ball and that goes back to the 1022 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 6: earlier comment we talked about just making sure we have 1023 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 6: our guys in the right positions, you know, whether it's 1024 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 6: you know, the where they're playing in the formation. The 1025 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 6: routes were asking the run et cetera, et cetera. 1026 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 13: Yeah, Kevin, you're obviously in the bye we middle of 1027 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 13: the road kind of crossroads. How do you evaluate your 1028 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 13: playing a lot of young guys, but where the organization, 1029 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 13: where the team is versus this topsy turvy AFC North, 1030 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 13: you know, two games out of first place at the 1031 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 13: midway point, So how do you balance that, you know, 1032 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 13: with nine games to play all in or contain you 1033 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 13: you know, and just what's been going on? 1034 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 6: Now we're all in, Fred, I mean, you know you 1035 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 6: are what your record says you are, so we got 1036 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 6: to own it. That's where we are. But we're excited 1037 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 6: about the challenge in front of us. We get again. 1038 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 6: Guys will take a breath this week, but then you've 1039 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 6: got nine games coming up, five of them at our place. 1040 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 14: Kevin, you mentioned some of that frustration, and you guys 1041 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 14: share in the frustration. Is there a balance to kind 1042 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 14: of handling the frustration and not letting it go overboard, 1043 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 14: but also maybe letting it fuel you trying to change 1044 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 14: some things. 1045 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 15: Is there a balance and what does that look like? 1046 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 6: I think it's really so specific to all of us. 1047 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 6: We know we have a job to do. The fun 1048 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 6: in this business is winning. So there's the frustration that 1049 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 6: comes with losing a game is very real. But how 1050 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 6: you channel that and how you, like you said, use 1051 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 6: it as fuel moving forward, I think is really important. 1052 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 14: And then when you're doing that, managing you know how 1053 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 14: guys are performing. To think about a guy like Alex Wright, 1054 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,280 Speaker 14: who says. 1055 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,479 Speaker 15: Seems to have a strong year. 1056 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 14: Do you kind of lean on the production of some 1057 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 14: of those guys as you're trying to move forward and 1058 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 14: use them as examples? 1059 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 15: Is that something that you can do? 1060 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, without a doubt. I mean we're gonna moving forward. 1061 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 6: We need our best players to play great like and 1062 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,240 Speaker 6: there's some really good moments of that throughout this season. 1063 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 6: And again, we just have to as from the coaching 1064 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,800 Speaker 6: staff on down, we got to make sure that we're 1065 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 6: doing our job, playing our role, putting our guys where 1066 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 6: they need to be. And then, like you said, guys 1067 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 6: are going to make plays. And I think Alex is 1068 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 6: a great example of that. 1069 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 9: Yeah, Kevin, I have a couple of questions real quick, 1070 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 9: if you don't mind. The first one, a clip circulated 1071 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 9: showing Miles on the sideline just whipping his helmet, you know, 1072 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 9: into the ground during the game, just wondering, you know what, 1073 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 9: what you think of an outburst like that. What do 1074 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,280 Speaker 9: you think that he was so angry about in that moment. 1075 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 9: I mean, I think it may have been that he 1076 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 9: got taken out of the game and wanted to play, 1077 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 9: is what I think he said afterwards, But I don't 1078 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 9: know what was specifically about that moment. But what do 1079 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 9: you think about that sort of show a frustration by 1080 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 9: him on the sideline? 1081 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, similar to what I was just saying, Mary Kay 1082 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 6: with Cam. We're all frustrated obviously in those moments. We 1083 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 6: want to make sure it doesn't get the best of us. 1084 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 6: But with that frustration comes to resolve. And I think 1085 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 6: I know Miles and I know him as a leader. 1086 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 6: I know the leaders in this football team will show 1087 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,760 Speaker 6: that Metal will show that resolve. 1088 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 9: And then the other question that I had was about 1089 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 9: Shador not playing yesterday, and I think I'm pretty sure 1090 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 9: he mentioned in the locker room that it wasn't his decision. 1091 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 9: And so you know, I mean if he had said 1092 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 9: to you guys, hey, I want to play, I can play, 1093 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 9: I mean, would that have factored into this at all 1094 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 9: or what was the thinking behind. 1095 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 15: That and how'd that go? 1096 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, he obviously came in on Saturday with his back injury. 1097 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 6: We were hopeful that he'd be able to move around 1098 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 6: well enough to suit up on Saturday or excuse me, 1099 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 6: on Sunday, but put him through a pregame warm up 1100 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 6: and obviously it just didn't feel like he was ready 1101 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 6: to play, Mary Kay. But he's getting better every day 1102 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 6: and I'm hopeful that he'll continue to improve. 1103 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 9: And if I can ask a super quick follow up 1104 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 9: on that, why wouldn't you just to see if it 1105 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 9: does anything to the offense give him an opportunity to 1106 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 9: go in there and play. 1107 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously my focus is where we are right now, 1108 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 6: Mary Kay, that's not my focus. 1109 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin, I apologize for asking a question I normally 1110 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 5: asked Andrew, But you're here. So with the trade deadline 1111 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 5: that's coming up here, do you see the team focusing 1112 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 5: maybe on move similar to the Greg Newsom Tyson Campbell trade, 1113 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 5: where you're more so looking forgetting players that can help 1114 00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 5: you now as opposed to picks, and then also to 1115 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 5: what is your role in those conversations when it comes to, 1116 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 5: you know, looking for help that you need with the roster. 1117 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, you'd have to ask Andrew. I'm just kidding. Yeah, listen, 1118 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 6: Ab is doing his job. We talk every day about 1119 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 6: opportunities that may or may not come up. I really 1120 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 6: like the group we have, but I'm sure you know, 1121 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 6: I know we're working hard and looking at all those avenues, 1122 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 6: but I like the guys we got. 1123 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 8: Kevin, how did Shadar hurt the back? 1124 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? Not sure, I mean nothing specific, just came in 1125 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 6: with stiff and. 1126 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 8: Then Miles, have you ever seen a performance like that? 1127 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 8: And how unfortunate that it comes in a loss like that? 1128 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 6: Well, you know that's the frustrating well among the many 1129 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 6: frustrating things is you want to celebrate a performance like that, 1130 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 6: and you know I told him that that's he should 1131 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 6: be very proud, and uh, I know he We win 1132 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 6: as a team, we lose as a team, and it's 1133 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 6: hard to to think about that right now. But that's 1134 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 6: pretty special to be able to do that. 1135 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,479 Speaker 8: Thanks, thanks coach, Thank you guys. 1136 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 3: All Right, second out of the program coming up next week, 1137 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 3: go one thought around the National Football League. You listen 1138 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 3: to Cleveland Browns Daily. We're presented by bally Bet, official 1139 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 3: sports betting partner your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly on 1140 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 3: a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1141 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, 1142 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 1: presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner 1143 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 1: of your Cleveland Browns. 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There's some beasies there were. 1155 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 3: It was really really crazy. So gibe nice to see it. 1156 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, the in the first window other than the 1157 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 2: Jets Bengals and to some degree the Niner Sexons for 1158 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 2: a period was somewhat close. I mean they were all beatings. 1159 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 2: Twenty four, fourteen, thirty one, eleven, nineteen and eighteen were 1160 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 2: the margins of victory. And in the afternoon it was 1161 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty and twenty four. There are a lot of 1162 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 2: beatings handed out there were. Yeah, yeah, it was. It 1163 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 2: was crazy Jets Bengals only close game. Well that really wasn't. 1164 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 3: I mean it was thirty eight to ten, twenty four 1165 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter in the Bengals lost. Yeah, thirty 1166 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:04,959 Speaker 3: eight to twenty four. 1167 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the last night was a good game that it 1168 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 2: was closer than the final score with them, it was. 1169 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 2: It was. 1170 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1171 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 4: That being said, total sidebar from the weekend excursion that 1172 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 4: we had. Here's my wife's like, how was vacation? That's 1173 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 4: her running thing. She even has her father asking. He 1174 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 4: sends me an email, was vacation? Well, Dad, you. 1175 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 2: Have to assure you got the real truth on that. 1176 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I will say this Providence, Rhode Island. 1177 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 2: Pretty good little town, maybe. 1178 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 4: One of the finer ones that we go to of 1179 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 4: the thirty two road cities. 1180 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 2: It's an interest. I've never been there. It's awesome. Yeah yeah. 1181 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 3: I remember my wife when she was in TV was 1182 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 3: they tried to hire her to go there. She went 1183 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 3: to Columbus instead, but I remember her being probably a 1184 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 3: better move, I would Thineah. But the food scene undefeated Ocean, 1185 00:58:58,760 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 3: that's pretty. 1186 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 4: It's right there. 1187 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 2: It's all. It's got some good like classic looking bill. 1188 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 2: It's also a beautiful time of year to be there. 1189 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 3: Because all the trees and the you know, all the 1190 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 3: trees are turning. 1191 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, got all the beautiful fall colors. 1192 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 4: We're finding positives. That was a big one. All right, Sunday, 1193 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 4: let's recap it. The Dolphins thirty four, as you mentioned, 1194 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 4: Bo Bishop, the gutless Falcons ten oh, and they're back 1195 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 4: to being gutless bo Bishop lead this one off. 1196 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 3: Crazy week too, you know, like on the injury report, 1197 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 3: like all that stuff with Lamar on Friday for Baltimore, 1198 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 3: which was crazy. And I heard Harbaugh's you know, reaction 1199 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,439 Speaker 3: or his answer for that Sunday after their game, which 1200 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 3: was what I did not hear. His answer was, there 1201 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 3: was nothing malicious. We really didn't know until Saturday. 1202 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 2: But fully you can't say, then he practiced in limited 1203 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 2: fashion like either know. 1204 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 3: He said, well, he did practice fully. Friday just ran 1205 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 3: the scout team and then they changed it to limited 1206 00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 3: and downgraded. 1207 00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 2: And downgraded him. 1208 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 3: And but they did that on and then the other 1209 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 3: thing that was weird, as he said, if there was 1210 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 3: there were used to he said that he made some 1211 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 3: point of reference to that there was a different terminology 1212 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 3: in the old system. 1213 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Doubtful. 1214 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, there used to be doubtful question and he said 1215 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 3: he probably would have been doubtful in the old way, 1216 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 3: he would have been doubtful. But we don't have that anymore, 1217 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 3: and that I don't either. But that this goes back 1218 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 3: into Penix because this kind of snuck up on all 1219 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 3: of us. Yeah, that all of a sudden Penix was out. 1220 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 3: And what happened to Drake London too, because right he 1221 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 3: was out. The other thing that was pretty crazy about 1222 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 3: this one, I'll take take the Falcon side of it, 1223 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 3: So Cousins was didn't do much. You really struggled. But 1224 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 3: the other thing that was pretty crazy is like the 1225 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 3: U I shaw Bjeon Robinson had a And the only 1226 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 3: reason I took notice of this is because of the 1227 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 3: extreme nature of it. He had a total yards prop 1228 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 3: in this game. There was the second highest in PROP history, 1229 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 3: next to a Christian McAffrey game with the Panthers from 1230 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 3: like nineteen or something like. That was the last time. 1231 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 3: And Bjean Robinson had twenty three yards receiving in twenty 1232 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 3: five yards rushing. It was like his his It was 1233 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 3: like two hundred and eleven total yards. It was way 1234 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 3: out there, hiest since McCaffrey. Yeah, and he had less 1235 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 3: than fifty total yards. So you make sense of the 1236 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 3: NFL this weekend, I dare you drunk crazy? 1237 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 2: Nathan One thought, Yeah, Kirk Cousins came back and did 1238 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 2: not look good in this game, and Miami and Tua 1239 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 2: did look good in this game. Two goes twenty of 1240 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 2: twenty six for two to five and four touchdowns. I 1241 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 2: knew they were a better team in a dome and 1242 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 2: perfect environment, and then certainly you saw the differences from 1243 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 2: here to there. But man, that is just that's wild, 1244 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 2: and that's a team that they could have gone in 1245 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 2: there and laid down, yeah and said, I thought they 1246 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 2: would get this guy out of here. And they went 1247 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 2: in there and it was a butt kicking. It was, 1248 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it was seventeen to three at the half, 1249 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 2: like this was they it was no chance. Yeah, they 1250 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 2: put it on him pretty good. Atlanta's now three and four. 1251 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 3: Three and four, people thought they were actually division was 1252 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 3: back to gutlass uh. 1253 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 4: Next up, the Radbirds come back and handily take care 1254 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 4: of the Chicago Bears in the second half, final score 1255 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 4: thirty to sixteen. Ravens get win number two on the year. 1256 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 4: Nathan's the girl one thought. 1257 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 2: Chicago outgained him. They averged six yards of play, they 1258 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 2: had the one turnover obviously, they just couldn't convert into scoring. 1259 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 2: Got to give Snoop Puntley seventeen to twenty two six 1260 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 2: in a touchdown, give him a lot of credit. Derreck Henry. 1261 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 2: They kind of just you know, ground it out. But 1262 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 2: this was a game that, especially once the quarterbacks which 1263 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 2: was made, You're like, okay, this is the Bears are 1264 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 2: going to be able to put the nail on the coffin. 1265 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 2: But this was a Ravens team now that I think 1266 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 2: is ready to roll. 1267 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,919 Speaker 3: Yeah to Butcher step and by the way, stay night right, yeah, 1268 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 3: stup Huntley just just be the backup quarterback in Baltimore. 1269 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that's perfect, Like. 1270 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 4: Just do that for your career. 1271 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 2: It works, sign up for it. 1272 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 3: I mean he was here, yeah this year August like 1273 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 3: he was here. Yeah, you want to you want to 1274 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 3: know if you're Baltimore at two and what are they 1275 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 3: two and six, two and five, five too and five? 1276 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 3: Now they have Miami, then they're at Minnesota at US, 1277 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 3: Jets at home, Bengals at home, Steelers at home at Bengals. 1278 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 4: You get right back in. 1279 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 3: They'll be favored in every single one of those games, 1280 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 3: except for maybe maybe maybe at Minnesota if Minnesota has 1281 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 3: a good but not right now, I don't think they 1282 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 3: would be, but maybe every other game will be big 1283 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 3: favorites in the rest from there all the way until 1284 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 3: they're Patriots at home on December twenty first. Is the 1285 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 3: next game they won't be favored in my opinion. 1286 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 2: Well, if they go on the run that they we 1287 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 2: think they're going to go on, and Lamar's playing well 1288 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 2: and all that, they'll be favored at home over the PA. 1289 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 3: They could, oh for sure, they could be fair. And 1290 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,479 Speaker 3: then they're at Green Bay, so that be an odd 1291 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 3: underdog there. But it's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 1292 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 3: seven straight games or they will be. They'll probably be 1293 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 3: touchdown or more. I met money of those favorites they 1294 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 3: catch down in this game. Now you're nine and five, Yeah, 1295 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 3: pretty easy. Their defense showed up too. They have random 1296 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,439 Speaker 3: one or two. 1297 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1298 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna end up being ten and seven 1299 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 2: and that might win it. I think that'll be I 1300 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 2: think that will be enough. 1301 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 4: Up next, the Buffalo Bills heard of Bo Bishop's dilemma 1302 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 4: and the wager with his young son. Oh god, thank 1303 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 4: god it and they said, hey, we have a two 1304 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 4: game losing streak. Let's end this and let's take care 1305 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 4: of the Carolina Panthers. Forty to nine. Bills beat the Panthers. 1306 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,959 Speaker 4: Bo Bishop a comment from you. 1307 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm just an idiot. 1308 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 3: Buffalo's coming off a bye, right, and I we are 1309 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 3: both okay. 1310 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 2: We talked or so with you. Yeah, I know you were, buddy. 1311 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 3: I didn't want to throw you with me, but like 1312 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 3: I I, Buffalo's coming off a bye. They it was 1313 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 3: a decent size number. Carolina has been really good at home, 1314 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 3: been a really good home team. Andy Dalton in for 1315 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 3: Bryce Andy Dalton had I don't know if you guys 1316 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 3: saw this. It was among the most stupefying plays. A 1317 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 3: veteran quarterback I've ever seen. So the score is, it's 1318 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 3: nineteen to three. They're inside the red zone going into half. 1319 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 3: They have no timeouts left. Oh gosh, with fifteen seconds 1320 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 3: on the clock. Andy Dalton takes a sack. He took 1321 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 3: a sack, a veteran quarterback took a sack, and the 1322 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 3: play they it goes out, no points, nothing, They get 1323 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 3: nothing out of it. They're inside that. I want to 1324 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 3: say they were inside the fifteen. Unbelieve they were right 1325 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 3: on the doorstep and couldn't get it done. One other 1326 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 3: thing on Carolina, I have no idea why they don't 1327 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 3: just run. Rico Dowdle always. 1328 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Said a couple of weeks ago. Don't make sense and 1329 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 2: it's cleaided. Lookchuba Hubbud was very good, but right now 1330 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 2: Rico Dawdle is their best back and he needs to 1331 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 2: touch the ball the most on that team. Bottom line. 1332 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 2: On the other side of it, did James Cook have 1333 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 2: one of the quietest two hundred yard games he'd ever 1334 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 2: nineteen for two sixteen two touchdowns. He and Dalvin Cook 1335 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 2: now are the only brothers in NFL history to have 1336 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 2: two hundred yard rushing games. 1337 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 3: Awesome, that's a great story. You imagine them like growing up. 1338 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 3: Anything you can do, I can do better? 1339 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 6: Thing? 1340 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 2: No cool, and he's like signific younger than him. 1341 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 3: Yes me, yeah yeah. 1342 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 4: Up next, the New York Football Jets are no longer 1343 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 4: winless and every team in the NFL now has a win. 1344 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 4: The Jets come back to shock the Bengals of Northern 1345 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 4: Kentucky thirty nine thirty eight the final score. Nathan zegirl 1346 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 4: One thought. 1347 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 2: It's inconceivable that the Bengals blew this game. It really 1348 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 2: is inconceivable that they blew it. I mean, they had 1349 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,919 Speaker 2: it all working. They're running the ball great p Ryan 1350 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 2: nine for ninety four in a touchdown, Chase Brown twelve 1351 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 2: for seventy three a touchdown. Flacco we even got a 1352 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 2: touchdown in there. He throws two touchdowns, twelve catches for 1353 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 2: Chase only two targets for t Higgins. Oh that strange, 1354 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 2: and one was for forty four yards on a touchdown. 1355 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 2: That was very strange. But they're up thirty eight to 1356 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 2: twenty four with ten twenty one to go, yep, and 1357 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 2: lose the game. 1358 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 3: And it's crazy. And you know, one of the things 1359 01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 3: that's so funny to me is. 1360 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 2: How much how Oh, it's become an analytically accepted thing 1361 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 2: now that when you're down fourteen on the first touchdown, 1362 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 2: teams go for two and people get so mad about 1363 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 2: it when people miss it, because then it's like, well, 1364 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 2: you could have just been down seven and now you're 1365 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 2: down eight, so you're gonna have to go for two again. 1366 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 2: The best you can do is time. Yeah, but when 1367 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 2: you do what the Jets did, or they score, they 1368 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 2: go for two and get it. Now, guess what they 1369 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 2: did at the end of the year. They win the 1370 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 2: game because they scored the two touchdowns. So this is 1371 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 2: one where it worked out. Bottom line in this one 1372 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 2: with the mangoled stuff you talked about. And by the way, 1373 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna end up being everything that will 1374 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,840 Speaker 2: happen for them for Jets factor is gonna happen in 1375 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 2: our game because they don't they probably they don't play 1376 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 2: yet the home. They're not home. 1377 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 3: They're at Baltimore, aren't They don't they have Baltimore this week? 1378 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 3: Baltimore is the Dolphins. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, Yeah, 1379 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 3: they're us next. They got to buy too. Yes, that'll 1380 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 3: be so very. 1381 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 2: Cool for them that they win in this almost improbable 1382 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 2: fashion and always reminds me of the way that we 1383 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 2: probably beat the Ravens on right after the guy quarterback 1384 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 2: by the way, and good for Justin Fields. Did you 1385 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 2: hear his post game. 1386 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like crying in his closet. He it's the 1387 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 3: most vulnerable I've heard a professional athlete. So I'm just 1388 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 3: tona be honest with you guys. And he talked about 1389 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 3: how he was He's closed the door in his closet, 1390 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 3: crying on the floor. 1391 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the. 1392 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 3: Woody Johnson comments last week and just everything and all 1393 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 3: of it, and you just go, geeze man. 1394 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 2: And there are people too, I think. 1395 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like God, almighty good lord. He was great in 1396 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 3: this game, twenty one to thirty two to two forty four. 1397 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 3: He had the touchdown, kept a lot of plays, uh 1398 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 3: a touchdown rush he did not, but he was he 1399 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 3: was frisky. They got Breisee all going a little bit. 1400 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 3: I like how Aaron Glenn goes about his business too. 1401 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 3: So I was happy that they got to win, and 1402 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 3: then I was really happy for Justin. Yeah, it's an 1403 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 3: impossible loss for Cincinnati. I mean that's devastating. They would 1404 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,599 Speaker 3: have been four and four and. 1405 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,679 Speaker 2: Fourth half game out, half game out. It's so hard. 1406 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,679 Speaker 3: Their schedule gets so robust from here going forward, they're 1407 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 3: gonna be fun to watch because they'll spend it. But 1408 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 3: like Hendrickson goes down at half, and their defense got 1409 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 3: shut off when he went down. So there's a lot 1410 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 3: of factors in it. 1411 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 2: Since Theirs at home next week, then they get a buye, 1412 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 2: then they go at Steelers. That could have been had 1413 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 2: they won that, that could have been for first place. Yep, yeah, 1414 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 2: it was. 1415 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 3: That was a must win, and you just kind of 1416 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 3: assumed that they would. They were up two touchdowns most 1417 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 3: of the game. 1418 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,599 Speaker 4: You scored thirty eight points. 1419 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 3: When Hendrickson went out. Again, when Hendrickson went out, their 1420 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 3: defense lost whatever teeth it hapdened. 1421 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 2: They have no they have nothing, They have. 1422 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 3: No response if he goes down toothless. 1423 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 4: Up next, the fighting paid Ros go down in Houston. 1424 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 4: Forty nine Ers dipped five and three on the year. 1425 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 4: The Texans come away with a much needed to win 1426 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 4: twenty six to fifteen. 1427 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 3: Bow Bishop thought, this is the most stupefying result of 1428 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 3: the weekend to me. Honestly, it really is even more 1429 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 3: so than honestly Cincinnati. Not that the forty nine Ers lost. 1430 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,640 Speaker 3: They were underdogs in this game by a point and 1431 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 3: a half. They're not that they lost. They're battered, they're 1432 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 3: all these but they were dominated by Houston, who hasn't 1433 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,680 Speaker 3: dominated anybody. Stroud had a really good game. They got 1434 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,640 Speaker 3: the run game going a little bit with with what 1435 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:17,799 Speaker 3: he marks? So what marks no Nico Collins doesn't matter. 1436 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:22,759 Speaker 3: Like just a very weird forty nine Ers approach and result. 1437 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 3: To me, this was the most shocking result of the week. 1438 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 3: Good for CJ played well. Woody Marx needs to be 1439 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,639 Speaker 3: set free. So my nerd, my dad is just up 1440 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,280 Speaker 3: in arms. They have no pass rush, so he wasn't 1441 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 3: sacked at all. The show is not sacked. Okay, I 1442 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 3: don't think he was hit much, and my dad said 1443 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 3: mac Jones was hit every other play. 1444 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 2: So their injuries on the lines and the loss for 1445 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 2: them of Nick Bosa has been devastating to their ability 1446 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 2: to get the quarterback. Now they're still five and three. Yeah, 1447 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 2: very much in it. I think Houston is still They're 1448 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 2: not gonna I don't think they're necessarily in its Houston 1449 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 2: to catch Indy the way Indy's playing right now, but 1450 01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 2: they are in it to maybe they're gonna be in 1451 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 2: the wildcard mix. I think the wildcard mix is going 1452 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 2: to be very interesting to watch. But they are the 1453 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 2: number one scoring defense in the NFL. They allowed the 1454 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 2: fewest points for game Houston. Yes really so last week 1455 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 2: there was some stat in the packet that they were 1456 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 2: the first team to be the number one scoring defense 1457 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 2: in the league and be they were at that time 1458 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 2: two and four, to be two games under five hundred 1459 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 2: through six games and be the number one scoring defense. 1460 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 2: That could never happen. 1461 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 4: Before next up to round out the early window. On Sunday, 1462 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 4: in one thought, the Eagles take down the g Men 1463 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 4: thirty eight to twenty. Camp Scataboo likely for the year. 1464 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 4: Pretty nasty ankle injury. The Eagles go to six and 1465 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,839 Speaker 4: two the g Men two and six. Nathan one thought, 1466 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 4: believe you had. 1467 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,639 Speaker 2: This, said, one's gonna go nuts. First play the game, 1468 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 2: sixty five yards to the house. He was great. Tank 1469 01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 2: Bigsby looked pretty good. He would be the person to 1470 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,839 Speaker 2: handcuff to sake on Barkley in the event of an injury. 1471 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 2: There couple of things. One Pedro distraught. He's not he 1472 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 2: is not okay about the loss of Scataboo. He wanted 1473 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,679 Speaker 2: to go head butt them like Jackson Dart did. He's 1474 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 2: very unhappy about this. And then the other is the 1475 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 2: way that the tush push has been officiated this year 1476 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,600 Speaker 2: is to me, the reason why it's gotta go. That 1477 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,719 Speaker 2: was a fumble. You can't say it's four progress to stop. 1478 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 2: He was still driving his legs forward. Of course in 1479 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 2: a tush push situation. It's ridiculous. Eagles are better than 1480 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,919 Speaker 2: people think they are. They're six and two and everybody's 1481 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:38,680 Speaker 2: acting like they're like the most aj Brown didn't even 1482 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 2: play in this one. No, but Hurts has been efficient. 1483 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 2: They got it going on the ground. Yeah, they're gonna 1484 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 2: be just fine. And the Giants they're not gonna be 1485 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 2: as fun without Scataboo. And I think that I think 1486 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 2: they're in for a long season. 1487 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 3: This would have been I mean they're without Malik Neighbors too, yep. 1488 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 3: So you have two guys who are pure joy to 1489 01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 3: watch in Neighbors and Scataboo both done for the year. 1490 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 2: Yep. 1491 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 3: I mean you saw the emotion on Dart's face with 1492 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 3: the injury with it, I mean just totally broken. Yeah, 1493 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,759 Speaker 3: it's a it's a very it's going to be to Honestly, 1494 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 3: though it might ben now that this has happened, provided 1495 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 3: they can both get back to one hundred percent, their 1496 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 3: pick is going to be a better pick. And now 1497 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 3: maybe you can really add to this thing. And darts 1498 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 3: shown you Flashes Scataboo. Certainly flashes get Neighbors back. 1499 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 2: He's a stud. 1500 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,599 Speaker 3: They could be fun pretty quickly, Yes, pretty quickly next year. 1501 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 2: But Neighbors, I Ceciliana told me yesterday, Neighbors hasn't even 1502 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 2: had surgery yet because the swelling has not gone down. 1503 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I hadn't heard that. He'd No, that's wild. Well, 1504 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 3: that's changes things dramatically. 1505 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 2: Then, Yeah, it really sucked, and he was quite good. 1506 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah to the late window and the debut of Tyler 1507 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 4: Schuck in for Spencer Retler in New Orleans didn't matter. 1508 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay takes down the Saints, the Saints not coming 1509 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 4: marching in twenty three to three, Tampa Bay with the win. 1510 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 3: Bo Bishop Pointy thought this felt to me like a 1511 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 3: sporting event contested between two like forty year olds who 1512 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 3: have had like a let's let's like pickle ball or 1513 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,320 Speaker 3: one on one hoops, pick a sport and They've been 1514 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 3: competing all day against other people and they get to 1515 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 3: the end of the day and they're like, good, good, 1516 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 3: all right, see you next week. That's what it felt. 1517 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 3: Nobody tried. 1518 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 2: This was ut or non. This game was not look 1519 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 2: at this, look go look at the box score from this. 1520 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 3: The Bucks had two hundred and twelve yards of offense 1521 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,840 Speaker 3: where three of their scoring game ever ever five people 1522 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 3: were targeted by Baker. 1523 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 2: It's it just. 1524 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 3: I felt bad for my guy, answered on red zone. 1525 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,639 Speaker 3: He was just like, I guess I got to show 1526 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 3: you this only got three games in the late window. 1527 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 2: I got to show you. 1528 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:47,120 Speaker 4: This thing for things terrible. This was bad. 1529 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,479 Speaker 2: You might kept looking at it. So they scored. The 1530 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:55,040 Speaker 2: Bucks had a touchdown, interception touchdown. They had one drive 1531 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 2: where they actually like went seventy yards of their of 1532 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 2: their whole yards of the game. Then they had three 1533 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 2: field goal drives McLoughlin fifty five, fifty two, fifty four 1534 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,679 Speaker 2: where they went seven plays eighteen yards, seven plays sixteen yards, 1535 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:15,639 Speaker 2: and four plays eight yards. Like yeah, it's it was. 1536 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 3: It was really really and they have injuries, but like 1537 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 3: now it looks like there's been some adjustments to MEC 1538 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 3: and it's starting to come back. I mean, Bank's only 1539 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,679 Speaker 3: completing sixty four percent of his pass. 1540 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,400 Speaker 2: They're six and two, but it feels but they're gonna 1541 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 2: win their division. There's nobody to challenging. 1542 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 4: No next up, then the main game in the late window, 1543 01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 4: the Broncos take down the Cowboys in a big way. 1544 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 4: Denver forty four Dallas twenty four. Is the girl, one. 1545 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 3: Thought, and this was probably the most surprising results of 1546 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:45,599 Speaker 3: the day. 1547 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,720 Speaker 2: They hold my beer on the of the forty nine 1548 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 2: ers with this one, just and Denver's legit. This is 1549 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 2: a This was a beating of what had been a 1550 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 2: pretty red hot Cowboys team. It's certainly a Cowboys offense. 1551 01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 2: I think that's the more surprising. Dak nineteen of thirty one, 1552 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,919 Speaker 2: one eight and two picks. They get a late touchdown 1553 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 2: from Milton. It was really this was a forty four 1554 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 2: to seventeen game. While the principals were playing it just dominant. 1555 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 2: Nicks was great, Dobbins is running it. Are they getting RJ. 1556 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 2: Harvey involved? Now? Troy Franklin looked, I mean, this was 1557 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 2: this was an absolute beating by the Denver Broncos. 1558 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,760 Speaker 3: It really was, and you do wonder like how much 1559 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 3: it Sean Payton always takes it personally with Dallas. We 1560 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 3: know that there's a lot of history there. But then 1561 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,120 Speaker 3: the other thing that's interesting is like that miraculous comeback 1562 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 3: against against the Giants last week at home? Did that 1563 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,720 Speaker 3: fuel this was there? Did something happen there that flipped you? 1564 01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,600 Speaker 3: You wonder that because they were they were on the 1565 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 3: cusp of really, I mean, they only beat the Jets 1566 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 3: by two, and then they were gonna lose it home 1567 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 3: to the Giants, And now all of a sudden, you 1568 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,200 Speaker 3: get these two games. They're at the Texans on sunny. 1569 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,240 Speaker 3: That'll be a big That's a big So that's a 1570 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:57,559 Speaker 3: be a big defensive game. 1571 01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 1572 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 3: A nighter against the Raiders, so that's yeah. 1573 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 4: Quickly Power ranked the AFC West. 1574 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,680 Speaker 3: Sansas City, Denver, Denver, Chargers, Vegas. Hey, Vegas doesn't get 1575 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 3: ranked in the first three. I think are all making 1576 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 3: the postseason? 1577 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,520 Speaker 2: Yes? And all could make a conroll. 1578 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 4: Next in the late window, the Colts take care of 1579 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 4: Tennessee thirty eight fourteen. 1580 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 3: Bosh, you better start thinking about Jonathan Taylor for MVP. 1581 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,320 Speaker 2: They have two MVP candidates. 1582 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 3: They have two Danny dime's been incredible. Taylor, He's like 1583 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 3: eight hundred and fifty yards rushing already, bro think something 1584 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,480 Speaker 3: like that. He had won fifty three and two touchdowns 1585 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:40,480 Speaker 3: on twelve. 1586 01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,719 Speaker 4: Year fourteen touchdowns, twelve touch. 1587 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, thirteen to fourteen touchdowns. 1588 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:49,639 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he's got hold on all right. Here 1589 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 2: is his last four games. Last four games, he's got 1590 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 2: ten touchdowns. He has at least three touchdowns three of 1591 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,960 Speaker 2: us last four. So this one one hundred and seventy 1592 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 2: four total yards on fourteen touches, three touchdowns. The week 1593 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,919 Speaker 2: before nineteen touches one hundred and thirty two yards, three touchdowns, 1594 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,719 Speaker 2: and that's against the Chargers. The week before that twenty 1595 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,479 Speaker 2: five touches one hundred and thirty seven only one touchdown 1596 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 2: against Arizona week at before that twenty for eighty six 1597 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 2: and three touchdowns. He's got four games with three touchdowns 1598 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 2: this year. He had three touchdowns. Was well against Tennessee 1599 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,479 Speaker 2: the first time. He also has a two hundred and 1600 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 2: fifteen yard game against Denver. YEP. 1601 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 3: He's got eight and fifty yards and twelve touchdowns and 1602 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,879 Speaker 3: six yards of carry. He leads the NFL in rushing attempts, 1603 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:38,800 Speaker 3: rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, yards from scrimmage, total touchdowns. 1604 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 2: They really could be eight no, very easily. 1605 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 3: The only one they lost is that they und crazy 1606 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 3: rams the boy when the guy dropped it going to 1607 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 3: the end zone. 1608 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 2: Amahi Mitchell. 1609 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,640 Speaker 4: Final one Sunday Night foosball, the Packers take down the 1610 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 4: Squealers thirty five, twenty fives. 1611 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,040 Speaker 2: Is a girl one thought this is a good game. 1612 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 4: It was. 1613 01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 2: It was a good game. It was fun to watch 1614 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,479 Speaker 2: and love trying to get into the MVP. Voting twenty 1615 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 2: nine to thirty seven, three sixty and three. Tucker Craft 1616 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 2: is like the new drunk. I mean, not that level. 1617 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 2: That's that's maybe the new Kittle. When Kittle was really rolling, 1618 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 2: that's what reminds me of He's just a beast. Yeah, 1619 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,839 Speaker 2: and like some of them, he's just carrying dudes, trucking dudes. 1620 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 2: They're impressive. That was That was a good one there. 1621 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,120 Speaker 2: Could they could very easily be undefeated as well. 1622 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:31,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1623 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1624 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 3: They have the crazy tie to Dallas and then lost 1625 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,639 Speaker 3: US Yeah and that and in this game they're kicker. 1626 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 2: I think it's two field goals as well. They held 1627 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,679 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh to one of ten on third down in this game. 1628 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, from the Pittsburgh side, Rogers is clearly plenty talented 1629 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,559 Speaker 3: to make every throw, but their approach is so different 1630 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,639 Speaker 3: than any other system he's played in. They go that massive, 1631 01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 3: heavy package with like four tight ends on the field 1632 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 3: and DK metcalf. They can't really run it, like I 1633 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 3: don't know, like they drafted Caleb Johnson in the second round. 1634 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,720 Speaker 3: He's like he can't see the field because of that, 1635 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,800 Speaker 3: I think because of that er on specialty. 1636 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 2: The field, so he's dead to them. 1637 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,599 Speaker 3: So it's it's and Warren just isn't really special and 1638 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,639 Speaker 3: and so they just don't have anything that they can 1639 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 3: rely on. And their defense is not good defense. Their defense, 1640 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 3: their defense is not. 1641 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:24,160 Speaker 2: Good at all. Also, one thing, did you see the 1642 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,559 Speaker 2: play and by the rule it's smart, but if you 1643 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,759 Speaker 2: just throw the ball at the last second, So Rogers 1644 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 2: is getting sacked and at the last second, he just 1645 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 2: kind of pushes the ball to the ground at the 1646 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 2: feet of Jail Warren who's blocking for him. Yeah, and 1647 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 2: they counted that as an incomplete pass and not post 1648 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 2: to grounding. You're not even intending to a complete a pass. No, 1649 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 2: I understand that that's just was. It was a very 1650 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,840 Speaker 2: smart play by him. That's something with the rule that 1651 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 2: maybe there's problem, but I don't think they're going to 1652 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 2: change it, nor they probably shouldn't, but that was just 1653 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:56,320 Speaker 2: interesting one. 1654 01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one thought from week eight the National football. 1655 01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 3: And this one's one of the local business platform presented 1656 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 3: by a Minuteman Association with Medical Mutuals and Vision Design Group, 1657 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,240 Speaker 3: locally owned and menor Envision Design Group is dedicated to 1658 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:12,040 Speaker 3: crafting authentic, innovative, affordable brand solutions. 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No gain 1674 01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,600 Speaker 3: on that one from the thirteen May to throw May. 1675 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,480 Speaker 4: Up in the pocket, May taken down by Miles. 1676 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:17,800 Speaker 12: There it is. 1677 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett has five sacks today, a new Cleveland Brown's 1678 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 4: single game record, and. 1679 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,800 Speaker 3: He now has ten on the season. You want to 1680 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 3: have at least one bright spot today. Obviously it is 1681 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. No quitting to him. You're down thirty to seven, 1682 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 3: He's still out there delivering it. Ten sacks again for 1683 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. The consistency of his greatness is really something 1684 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,799 Speaker 3: to behold. Derek Thomas the record, did he have seven? 1685 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,200 Speaker 2: Seven? Seven? Yeah, the late. 1686 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 4: Great I will say one of the funnier moments yesterday, 1687 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,799 Speaker 4: and there were not many, Yeah, but a light moment. 1688 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:06,000 Speaker 4: Are so close to the stands that Ceciliano has the call. Yeah, 1689 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:06,920 Speaker 4: he's excited. 1690 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:07,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1691 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,439 Speaker 4: Most of the people in the stands are turning around, 1692 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 4: going what could the Browns radio people really be celebrating 1693 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 4: right now? Yeah? 1694 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,480 Speaker 2: They were kind of like giving us like the scoreboard. 1695 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,599 Speaker 4: They they were all very nice about it. Yeah, let 1696 01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 4: us have our moment. Shut up in eat your chowder. 1697 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, that was good. There is another 1698 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 2: good moment where Ceciliano said, I don't know if if 1699 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 2: you have this one at the ready gibe, probably not, 1700 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 2: but Siciliano said something and we came back a couple 1701 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 2: of different things he had to do. 1702 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:42,080 Speaker 6: That's great. 1703 01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:43,880 Speaker 2: Uh. And at the end of the point he was 1704 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,800 Speaker 2: like a who cares, like basically whatever, And I said, 1705 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,920 Speaker 2: you sounded just like the great Harry Doyle and majorly yeah, 1706 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,640 Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah. And they dropped the besties, not the 1707 01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 2: best color man the business for nothing. Look at these guys. 1708 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,040 Speaker 3: Look at that. 1709 01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:56,960 Speaker 4: That's great. 1710 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little twins, that's pretty good. 1711 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 4: The twins twins. 1712 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 2: That's really good. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, we got I 1713 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,720 Speaker 2: think they should win. We're men. That's my favorite. Now 1714 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,439 Speaker 2: that's my favorite. Yeah, they did a good job. 1715 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:20,720 Speaker 3: Colonel Sanders, Oh it looks like it. Yeah, what a time, folks. 1716 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:21,639 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1717 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 4: I can tell you, no reaction or overreaction. 1718 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,680 Speaker 2: Let's do a little reaction or overreaction. Givee let's do it. 1719 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:28,400 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 1720 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 4: Well, the first one I think we've already told. 1721 01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 2: I didn't even see this. 1722 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 4: You guys hit on two of them already. I was like, well, well, 1723 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor should be more of an MVP candidate than 1724 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. 1725 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 2: You know, when we're good, we're good at what we're doing. Ah, 1726 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,240 Speaker 2: sure for now? Yeah, he's sure. I think. Yeah. 1727 01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,680 Speaker 3: I think if he has, if he runs for if this, 1728 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,040 Speaker 3: if he gets near two thousand and like twenty five touchdowns, 1729 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:54,839 Speaker 3: then yeah, and that's where he's trending. 1730 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, reaction or overreaction, The Ravens are definitely think 1731 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:00,360 Speaker 4: the AC North. 1732 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,840 Speaker 2: They are one hundred still in it. Pittsburgh. 1733 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,600 Speaker 3: I mean you think about the last two weeks, for 1734 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,880 Speaker 3: them to lose that game in Cincinnati last week and 1735 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:10,559 Speaker 3: then to lose at home. I mean, you're up at 1736 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 3: half against against Green Bay, feel pretty good about things, 1737 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,480 Speaker 3: and give it up in the fourth quarterway that they did. 1738 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 6: No. 1739 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 3: I yeah, I think I think Baltimore absolutely can do it. 1740 01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,120 Speaker 3: I haven't looked at Pittsburgh schedule to see what's coming 1741 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,320 Speaker 3: for them, but Pittsburgh's defenses it ain't there. 1742 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,759 Speaker 2: It is not there. Oh, they get the Colts next. 1743 01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, there he is, there he is what's he dressed 1744 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 3: up as somebody running a business. He's running a business, 1745 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:41,439 Speaker 3: That's what that is. 1746 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 1747 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the Steelers go Colts at Home at Chargers, 1748 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 3: then Bengals at Bears, Bills. Yeah, Baltimore definitely can do it. 1749 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Uh the gutlass Falcons missed their window to 1750 01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 4: trade Kirk Cousins. 1751 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 3: That'll that whole thing is crazy to me. And they're 1752 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 3: three and four or I'll never understand why they signed 1753 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,880 Speaker 3: him to begin with. It's it's just stupefying that they 1754 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 3: did well. 1755 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,040 Speaker 2: If it or if you were gonna sign him, you 1756 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 2: could have drafted Roma done Za and built it that way, 1757 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,160 Speaker 2: and so you'd be like, all right, we're gonna go 1758 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:18,920 Speaker 2: out here with Cousins, Roma, Dooneza, Drake London, Bijon Pitts. 1759 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 2: Instead you use it on a quarterback who, by the way, 1760 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,960 Speaker 2: the knock on him oft injured. Yep, and he still Judge. 1761 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 2: Judge's pretty good as Colonel Sanders got a happy Gilmore. 1762 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 2: Twins twins is that's twins is twins pretty good? 1763 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:34,720 Speaker 4: That's a good one. 1764 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, twins should win. I mean, Omar looks unbelievable. 1765 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:45,960 Speaker 4: He does. That's pretty good. Uh, next, Dak Prescott is 1766 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,920 Speaker 4: not a big game quarterback reaction or overreact. 1767 01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,800 Speaker 3: It feels like it feels like reaction that feels a 1768 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 3: bit like an overreaction. 1769 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,479 Speaker 2: That screams like a Romo take. 1770 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 4: Steal it from the light Whale himself. Bill Barnwo who 1771 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:03,920 Speaker 4: was like, you can make the argument. 1772 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 2: I guess you can. 1773 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 3: I mean, they don't have anything defensively at all to 1774 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,559 Speaker 3: speed and they I mean, Jerry had this crazy line 1775 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,439 Speaker 3: where he's talking about the work, we just can't get 1776 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,240 Speaker 3: one great defensive player and it's like. 1777 01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,439 Speaker 2: Well, dude, you had one. Yeah, you just traded him. 1778 01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 2: Who is the panda massive? 1779 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 4: That's an enormous costume to lug in and like out. 1780 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,080 Speaker 2: It's going on out themes. 1781 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 3: He's got some sort of shark thing that he's wearing. 1782 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,360 Speaker 3: I can tell he's instantly regretting it because it's like, 1783 01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:31,639 Speaker 3: how am I going to wear this around? 1784 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:33,559 Speaker 2: I was signed up for it, dude. 1785 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:35,680 Speaker 4: What's everybody else going? 1786 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, but we need an We need to 1787 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 2: know who won. Did Twins win? Because yeah, I think 1788 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:42,120 Speaker 2: there was a. 1789 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,960 Speaker 3: Whole Scooby Doo groups pretty good. You got a fred 1790 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 3: back there, you got Velma. I don't see a Daphne. 1791 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:49,679 Speaker 3: I don't see a Shaggy or a scoob. 1792 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:51,639 Speaker 2: Yeah you need it, don't you need those? 1793 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1794 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,479 Speaker 2: You and I should have judged this. Yeah, well we 1795 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,639 Speaker 2: need it, We need answers. He could have got some answers. 1796 01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean based on TikTok trend. 1797 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,679 Speaker 6: I think they have the right group of let's screw 1798 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:04,200 Speaker 6: we do group. 1799 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Oh is that a TikTok than keV? I think so, yeah, okay, yeah, 1800 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,639 Speaker 3: what do you mean, We're not gonna partake not getting 1801 01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 3: probably a win, So that's yeah, safe smart judgment. 1802 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 4: keV uh one Final one on reaction or over reaction Monday, 1803 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 4: the AFC North champion will have no more than nine wins. 1804 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,439 Speaker 2: I think ten does it. I'm not sure if someone 1805 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,040 Speaker 2: gets to ten in the AFC. 1806 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,960 Speaker 3: North AFC North, either Baltimore or or Pittsburgh will get 1807 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,760 Speaker 3: to ten. I bet would be on Baltimore now, which 1808 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,160 Speaker 3: is crazy cause two and five so they got to 1809 01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 3: go eight and two the rest of the way. But 1810 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,720 Speaker 3: I still think their talent is such it's crazy. Yeah, 1811 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 3: I think it's I think ten will do it. But I, 1812 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 3: you know, I thought three would get in in this division, 1813 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,160 Speaker 3: and it looks more and more like might just be 1814 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,160 Speaker 3: one because there's a lot going on in. 1815 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,200 Speaker 2: The West certainly. 1816 01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, real quick in our final minute here before 1817 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 4: we take a break, lsu firing Brian Kelly. The first 1818 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,760 Speaker 4: thought that went through your mind when you find them duh. 1819 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear anybody in college athletics talk 1820 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 3: to me about how they have to find money. If 1821 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 3: you can scratch checks for fifty four million dollar buyouts 1822 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,240 Speaker 3: for Brian Kelly and fifty million buyouts for James Franklin 1823 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 3: and twenty five million for Billion Apier, if you can 1824 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,040 Speaker 3: do that, then don't come to me and say you 1825 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,120 Speaker 3: need private equity cash. Don't tell me you got to 1826 01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 3: cut sports. There's money in the banana stand. There's always 1827 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,599 Speaker 3: money in the banana stand, and there is here too. 1828 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 3: The two other things real quickly on this number one, 1829 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,920 Speaker 3: the SEC and those fan bases have got to get 1830 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 3: used to their teams being ten and two, nine and three, 1831 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,160 Speaker 3: eight and four in those being successful years because of 1832 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,000 Speaker 3: how they schedule and how few teams there are in 1833 01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,960 Speaker 3: that conference. That's something that they all have to get 1834 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,840 Speaker 3: used to and we've never seen this before. We have 1835 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:54,040 Speaker 3: three Cadillac jobs open in college football before November, Penn State, Florida, LSU. 1836 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 3: Those are all top twelve jobs in the country and 1837 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,880 Speaker 3: they're all open at the same time. Lane Kiffin is 1838 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 3: going to make a lot of money, either from somebody 1839 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 3: else or from somebody giving him an extension at Ole Miss. 1840 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,479 Speaker 3: But something to watch for there. It's crazy, crazy weekend 1841 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 3: in college football, all right. I've tried on the Google 1842 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:11,479 Speaker 3: machine to find an answer to this. 1843 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:12,639 Speaker 2: I found nothing so far. 1844 01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,360 Speaker 3: On what's that Brian Kelly, Oh, the Daphney thing. Kevin 1845 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:16,600 Speaker 3: will tell you in the break. Kevin'll tell you in 1846 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,880 Speaker 3: the break. We'll get your scores from Monday night coming 1847 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,759 Speaker 3: up next. 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