1 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: This is Elis Susman. You're managing editor here at Fish Stripes. 2 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: On Wednesday, June fifth, our lead writer Danny Martinez was 3 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: invited on Good Morning Amigo, the morning drive time show 4 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: for on SLAM Radio, which is a serious XM channel. 5 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm just here to introduce that big interview that touched 6 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: on the entire state of the Marlins organization, their farm system, 7 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: they're rebuilding, philosophy, and the recent success they're having at 8 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: the major league level. Right now, things are going about 9 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: as well as they could possibly go for the team 10 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: in all facets at this moment in time, So you 11 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: usually won't hear me on the podcast. For those who 12 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I produced money of our podcast episode and 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: distribute it. But I wanted to record this intro at 14 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: a time where it's so much fun to cover the 15 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Marlins and talk about what's going on, and just to 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: get everybody up to speed on a few things happening 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: around Fish Stripes and then around the Marlins organization. And 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: then we're gonna throw it over to Danny and his 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: appearance with the Amigo. As you're listening to this, the 20 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Marlins have just wrapped up their twenty nineteen MLB draft class, 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: which featured the number four overall pick JJ bil Day, 22 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: but a lot of other high quality players behind them. 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: It's drawing rave reviews from people inside the Marlins, but 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: also outside the Marlins if you listen to the podcast regularly. 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Our previous episode on Earning their Stripes, episode ten, grated 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: the draft that was with Danny Ethan Badowski Ian Smith. 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: They went through a lot of the key picks that 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: were made, the reasoning behind the picks, the projections for 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: some of those players, and overall it's gone pretty well. Ultimately, 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to which of these players sign 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: a contract with the Marlins, but shaping up to be 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: a very big deal. If you want previous coverage of that, 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: listen to that episode or go to fishtraps dot com, 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: where I've been tracking every single pick that they've been 35 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: making and adding some perspective to what those players are 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: and why they were selected where they were, and how 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: they fit into the larger rebuilding plan. So make sure 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: to get caught up on that draft because they might 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: not be picking that high ever again. We'll see in 40 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, but this is a critical draft and by 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: all accounts, the Marlins stepped up and nailed it. Some 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: news from the Clinton lumber Kings to Low a affiliate, 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: you may know that they're played by play broadcaster Eric Os. 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: He has his podcast show on our podcast feed as well, 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: A Ball with Eric Os, so make sure you're listening 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: to that. Earlier this season, Eric interviewed a couple players 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: that were just recently named Midwest League All Stars. That 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: includes outfielder Gerard and Carnacion, who has just been mashing 49 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: the ball for these first two months of the season. 50 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Really impressive from a twenty one year old twenty eighteen 51 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: draft pick. Chris Vaalamont has been arguably the ace of 52 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: that rotation in one of the big strikeout artists in 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: the entire farm systems. Congrats to him and thirdly, umberto Mehea, 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: fellow starting pitcher in that rotation, even with a lower 55 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: era than Valmont does a really impressive former international amateur 56 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: signee of the Marlins moving up a level to High 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: A jupiters. They've already announced their three All Stars that 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: include shortstop Jose Devers and starting pitchers Edward Cabrera and 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Holloway, all three really having terrific years and especially 60 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera, who was probably a consensus top ten Marlins 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: prospect entering the season, has seemingly taken another step forward, 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: even while going up against older competition in the Florida 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: State League. The Florida State League All Star Game is 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: being hosted in South Florida in Jupiter's Roger Dean Shefferley 65 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: Stadium on Saturday, June fifteenth. Fish Stripes is gonna be there. 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of our riders there. We 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: wanted to get a big group together with a lot 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: of you guys as well. At just seven dollars a ticket, 69 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: big discount over the regular price. We have decided to 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: sweeten that offer a lot as sweet as it could get. 71 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Fifty tickets are being given way to members of our 72 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: audience on our podcast feed. Make sure you're subscribing to 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: fish Stripes social media at fish Stripes on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: and more details of course on the website. In our 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: articles about how you can win free tickets the Florida 76 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: State League All Star Game for yourself and a friends, 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: maybe yourself and the whole family. We're gonna give them 78 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: away in chunks to make sure that we have all 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: them in the hands of people that really want to 80 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: be there and really want to get to know us, 81 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: talk some baseball, have a great time at a minor 82 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: league ballpark. Stay tuned for that for the time being. 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: Keeping locked in on this episode where we have this 84 00:04:35,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: interview recorded on Wednesday. Danny Martinez the Amigo enjoy. 85 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: They call me an ego for a reason, right, How 86 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: gon I be on a migo and be a jackass 87 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 2: at the same time. 88 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: Oh know, you walk a good line. 89 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 4: I do it right on the ita, right on it. 90 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: And then when you wear a dory hat and start 91 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: complaining about a stadium one day, the guy you might 92 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: write for Fish Stripes might come and call your ass out, 93 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: like like Danny Martinez did that day. 94 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 4: I was so mad at Danny. I was like, Daddy, 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: do I know you? No, you just pissed me off. 96 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: But Danny covers the Martins for the fish Stripes, which 97 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: is an Espnation site, and they do great work. 98 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: I've been checking it out and the guy's a good sport. 99 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: Because one I. 100 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: Did argue vehiment with him on Twitter, I still believe 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm somewhat right. 102 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 4: But here's what I was wrong about. Team may not 103 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 4: be as. 104 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: Bad as I thought, joining us here on good morning 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: an ego, the one and only Danny Martinez fistripes, what's 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 2: going on, Danny? 107 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: Are you doing? 108 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 5: My brother? 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: Doing? 110 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: Good? Bro? I feel bad for you because say that. 111 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: I think they're extracting teeth or something from you. So 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm I feel your pain almost. I don't want to 113 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: go through that pain, but I I will be thinking 114 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: of you very much so. But I think last night 115 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: the Marnins left you the situation where like if they 116 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: had to numb up the area, scoring sixteen runs in 117 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: a game could make you happy going into this procedure. 118 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: Talk to me about what went through your mind last 119 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: night as they put up sixteen runs. 120 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: That was nuts. 121 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think I think that the truth is 122 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 5: stealing a little better. I might just have to cancel 123 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 5: the appointment at all. I'm not a big fan of dentist. 124 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: Not a big fan of dentist. And by the way, 125 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 5: just so everyone knows, you know what I mean. 126 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: You are right. 127 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 5: If I was the esher bro, I would have let 128 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 5: you in. I told you that from the beginning. 129 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: I thod you know what you did. I gave you 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: a hard time. Frank right, He did say that from 131 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: the beginning. It just ripped me for everything else. 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: But he did say following you in. But you gotta 133 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: understand that's a paid area for those who don't know. 134 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: I bitched and moaned about I'm having back issues. That's 135 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: I guess what happens when you get old. And I 136 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: didn't want to sit for the game. I wanted to stand. 137 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: The truth is, there's like three free areas to stand. 138 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: There was an area it was completely empty. Unbeknownst to me, 139 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: they were ticketed. So from the moment we got there, 140 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: I just stood there. And I literally wasn't planning on 141 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: standing there long either. I wanted to stand for half 142 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: an inning, yell at NEMO, and then go to my seats, 143 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: which are right above NEMO. 144 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: But I just needed to stand for a little bit. 145 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: Immediately dispatch us out of there, kicked us out. So 146 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: I went to Twitter and bitched, Oh boy, was there? 147 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: Oh well, I didn't go too good. 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: Was there anybody else standing there? 149 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: Was nobody? Yeah, it was like my deal was all right, guys, I. 150 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: Get the rules, but like you're trying to get people 151 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: to come in the building, like this is one way 152 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: that someone say I'm never coming back and I did 153 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: say that that I'm done. 154 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: I'm done. I don't know if I'm done. I've been 155 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: rooting twenty. 156 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Six years for them, Danny, and I think that's where 157 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: my frustration lines. You're younger than I am, but do 158 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: you feel the same frustrations. 159 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: I know you cover them. You want to be objective, 160 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: but the truth is you're a fan. 161 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: You're a huge fan, the same way out, of course, 162 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: So tell me what's through your mind when some of 163 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: the frustrating stuff goes on, and then we'll get to 164 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: the positive stuff that's been going on with that team 165 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: over the last three weeks. 166 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 5: Of course. Well, listen, I am younger than you, right, 167 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 5: I'm only twenty six, but I basically was burst with franchise. 168 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 5: I was very young when it was ninety seven. I 169 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 5: was in it when it was two thousand and three. 170 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: I have gone to the multiple rebuilds, and what I 171 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 5: say is the first thing, really don't. I can't blame 172 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 5: anybody for being upset for having to wait and see 173 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 5: approach or getting pissed off at the Marlins. I can't. 174 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 5: I can't blame anyone because this is the most scorned 175 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 5: fan base through history of baseball. Quite frankly, except from 176 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: the teams that have left, from Haizinga to Laia. And then, yes, 177 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 5: even though I see it a little bit differently, I 178 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 5: can understand how everyone can see this latest rebuild is 179 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 5: just another cycle of being a Marlins fan. So when 180 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 5: things are low, when the historical offense, you know, it's 181 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 5: just as bad as it can be earlier this year. 182 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 5: The only difference between me and maybe the observant that's 183 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 5: tired of it and says, this is the fourth time 184 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 5: I'm doing this, I'm not going through it is that 185 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: I feel like you see the differences in this rebuild 186 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 5: versus what has happened before, and I think we're now 187 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 5: starting to see a little flavor of that with the 188 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 5: way the team's performing. 189 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: Deddy Martinez joining us here on Good Morning Amigo. He 190 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: writes for Fish Stripes, a sp nation site that covers 191 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: the Miami Marlins, and they've been fun to cover the 192 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: last three weeks. In fact, they've been fun to watch. 193 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: Last night, I walk in to a shameless plug sports 194 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: grill and the game's about four nothing, I think they 195 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: as I'm walking in, it becomes five nothing and I 196 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: look at go Wow, they're up again. And they're scoring 197 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: the see it's the fifth inning. We go to sit down, 198 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 2: they have menus, let me have some waters. 199 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: I look up. It's like seven or eight nothing. Then 200 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: it's nine to nothing. 201 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: And I just kept repeating the score as we were 202 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: having a conversation at the table, and it seemed like 203 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: every twenty seconds, I go, Okay, it's nine to nothing. Okay, 204 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: it's ten to nothing. By the way, in case you 205 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: even noticed, it's eleven nothing, twelve nothing, guys, okay, thirteen nothing, 206 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: rub by two touchdowns. 207 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: Like it just kept going. 208 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: I don't remember in twenty six years ever seen in 209 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: the mornings do something like that, and they haven't. They've 210 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: never put up that many runs in a game. Isn't 211 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: a testament to the fact that it just takes time. 212 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: I'm a big baseball fan. It takes time for these. 213 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: Young players to get acclimated to that level. 214 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: Is it just a streak or do you think if 215 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: you watch them day and day out, do you think 216 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: that perhaps they're actually starting to come into their own 217 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about championship caliber level, but they're no 218 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: longer that ten and thirty one team like that was 219 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: a quarter of the season and that quarter of the 220 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: season behind them, and you know, this seventeen game stretch, 221 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: they've won more games in the first quarter of the season. 222 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: Are they an improved team and will they continue to 223 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: be improved? In your opinion? 224 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 5: So I'll answer that in two ways. I do think 225 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: they're an improved team, but I don't think they're going 226 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 5: to stabilize where they are right now. What I mean 227 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 5: by that is in the last seventeen games, they've won 228 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 5: twelve of them. Right to pretend that the twenty nineteen 229 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 5: Marlins are going to keep that pace would be blasphemous. 230 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 5: That's not going to happen. You know, the nineteen twenty 231 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 5: seven Yankee aren't going to keep that pace. So what's 232 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 5: going to happen is they're going to fall back a 233 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 5: bit and they're going to stabilize. But they're not that 234 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 5: ten and thirty one team. You know that. I've got 235 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 5: just hammered on Twitter the same way that you and 236 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 5: I went back and forth, Yeah, saying, everyone relaxed, wait 237 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 5: until the younger guys come up. You know. One, you know, 238 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 5: we're not here to see this this one year veteran play. 239 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: We're here to see if Harold Jrmirez get called up 240 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 5: eventually and perform a Garret Cooper. And that's and I 241 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 5: mean this wholeheartedly. The good guys, the better top tier prospects, 242 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 5: aren't even up yet. Wait until Amante Harrison, a top 243 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 5: one hundred guy, comes up. Wait until Eaton dia Is 244 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 5: the top one hundred guy comes up. When the Zach Gallan, 245 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 5: who just actually got added to a top one hundred list, 246 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 5: When these prospects come up and start rolling, that's when 247 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 5: you're really seeing the future of the Marlins. 248 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, Danny, I I think that finally, 249 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: after much ado, I finally have a one hundred percent 250 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: agreement on something with you and I, and that is 251 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: that they're not that ten and with thirty one team, 252 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: but they're not that twelve and five team either, and 253 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna watch them develop and grow. 254 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 4: The one thing I've. 255 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: Got in my quote inside information is that the Marlins 256 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: really are trying to gain equity. So, like give you 257 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: an example, They're going to get as many young hot 258 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: arms as they can get, and then they're gonna determine 259 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: who the best ones are and the rest of one 260 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: the rest of them are gonna be dispensable pictures aren't 261 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: hot commodity in baseball. The idea is, if we're not 262 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: gonna keep a picture who's pretty good or doesn't fit 263 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: our plans, we might be able to get two or 264 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: three players for that picture, because that's the way baseball 265 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: is today. And the idea of building equity within your 266 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: roster is what seems to be the modest plan. 267 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: Right now, Do you think it's gonna work. 268 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I think. I think so and 269 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: you can call me optimist, okay, but I'll tell you why. 270 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 5: I'll give you three points. The first point is if 271 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 5: we just look at the major league roster right now, 272 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 5: when it comes to pitching, all right, the starting staff 273 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 5: average for twenty five, they're the only starting staff to 274 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: have the same five pitchers go out there from opening 275 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 5: days to now, all of them will be Jamarins are 276 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 5: the only team and they are ninth in earn run average, 277 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 5: So one of the youngest staffs, who's most durable in 278 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 5: the major league and they're top ten at the moment 279 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 5: you decide who you want to keep from them, right, 280 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 5: I would say that Jose Urine is probably traded at 281 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 5: the deadline. Yep, maybe Caleb Smith to go get them baths. 282 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 5: You decide who you keep from them. Because the second 283 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 5: point is that in the minor league you have fourteen 284 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 5: starting pitchers with a sub three point five oh ERA. 285 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 5: That's a lot of pitching depths that's coming up. So 286 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: they've rebuilt this on pitching. It's the hottest commodity in baseball. 287 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: Use that value and what do they need backs? So 288 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 5: go ahead and use that value for a return of 289 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 5: bats that you can add to the core that they 290 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 5: already have building. 291 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 4: I'm so glad I got into a fight with you. 292 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: You're teaching right now, son, Danny Martinez doing a teaching 293 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: lesson here Han Slam Radio and rightfully sold. 294 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: Does he have to school the old man? Holy Toledo. 295 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 5: I think you got some jabs in there too. 296 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: What's that I did? 297 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: You know? 298 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: You know my concerns, But my concerns are from a 299 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: place that I'm not talking about today. That's one day 300 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: when you and I get together, have a Hamburg or 301 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: a subway sub or whatever, and we go in I'm 302 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: explain to you why I feel the way I feel. 303 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: But I'm not doing that on the air today because 304 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything negative about what's been going 305 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: on in the last three weeks with Miami and the Martins, 306 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: And truthfully, we have to embrace that. 307 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: We cannot sit. 308 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: There and be flippant about it and then later on 309 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: claim to be a fan of the team or support 310 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: the team, and the folks in that building will tell 311 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: you unanimously that I have been borderline a shill for 312 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: the team. That was Al was trying to tell you 313 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: that day that I have supported them every which way. 314 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: But Tuesday there's stuff that I'll share with you privately. 315 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: You don't know that I could have ten reasons to 316 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: be angry at them and never speak to them again, 317 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: and I. 318 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: Continued rooting for them. So maybe I. 319 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: Feel like I'm able to say certain things, and that's 320 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: just an old man being an old man. The truth is, 321 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: I had no idea that their starting rotation while in 322 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: the game not a collective team era, but the starting 323 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: pitchers in starts their eras are ninth in Major League Baseball. 324 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: I had no idea. 325 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: I also have not known that the same five pictures 326 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: had been the same rotation all season. I thought maybe 327 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: they had mixed in somebody else. You know, sometimes you 328 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: have to have a six starter, especially early in the season, 329 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: the days off. I had no idea it was the 330 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: same five guys. I do know that they're wealthy in 331 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: the air, in the area of arms. Here's where they're 332 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: not wealthy, and I'm concerned it's butts and chairs. They're 333 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: gonna come back to a home stand after winning a 334 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: bunch of games, and I would expect more people to 335 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: come to the park. You and I both know that's 336 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: probably not gonna be the case, but it's gonna Does. 337 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: Winning cure this? In your opinion? 338 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: I mean you are more of the generation that matters 339 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: to this than me, So I. 340 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: Ask you, does winning cure? Do your friends go? 341 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: They're winning, We're going because I don't know if they're 342 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: as jaded as I am. You're not as jaded as 343 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: I am, because you said you were born into the team. 344 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: You've seen it, but that's all you know. Like, this 345 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: is the Yankee fan being pissed off. 346 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: Play me. I like them too, But the truth is 347 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: I'm not as big a fan as you are because 348 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: that's that's your team. 349 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, these are my team, that it's your team. Do 350 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: you honestly feel winning can start getting butts and chairs? 351 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: Because historically we haven't seen that, but it's an interesting 352 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: dynamic that's going on right now with this team. 353 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so this type of winning, no, because at the 354 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 5: end of the day, fans in Miami, you are not 355 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 5: gonna come out for a last week rebuilding teams. But 356 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 5: that's not what this franchise is. Rebuild is hopefully for. 357 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 5: We're not trying to get a flash in the pan 358 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 5: of two thousand and three and then resetting. That's why 359 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: I guess we have a different perspective with the rebuilds. 360 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 5: They needed to do this from the ground up so 361 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 5: that in twenty twenty twenty twenty one, when they are winning, 362 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 5: they don't have to trade off all their assets and 363 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 5: then go have another rebuilds. They can continue to upload 364 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: from the layers of talent beneath. So to answer the question, no, 365 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 5: I don't think that this year's attendance is at all 366 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 5: going to really improve if they continue winning at its 367 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 5: taste in the second half of the season. I would 368 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 5: hope so. But my answer is that Miami will show 369 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: up when the Marlins show a sustainable winner. I think 370 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 5: that's like the first layer of fans when they're sustainable 371 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 5: winner one year after another, they're around five hundred, they're 372 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 5: a little better. Fans will come. And then I think 373 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 5: the biggest portion of fans, the scorn portion of it, 374 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 5: is when they win and they retain their players. I'm 375 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 5: not saying they retain everybody that's not intelligent baseball operations, 376 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 5: but when they extend a Brian Anderson or a George 377 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 5: Offer and they don't just do another Reset, another Lauria, 378 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 5: another Hyzinga, yes, even another Jeter in twenty seventeen, that's 379 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 5: how you win over Miami. And I'll just have one 380 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 5: last point. The icon of sports in Miami are the 381 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 5: Miami Heats. Correct, we should look we should go look 382 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 5: at their attendance before Wade got drafted. Now, Miami's always 383 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 5: been a basketball city with Zoe and with hard Way, 384 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: I understand that, but look at the attendance before Wade 385 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 5: got drafted, and he brought sustainable winning, and really it's 386 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 5: before Shot King. So there there is precedent. If you 387 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 5: win in Miami and you sustain it, people will come. 388 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: Danny Martinez schooling the old man here on good Morning, Amigo, 389 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: uh slammerio series excam. I know you're limited with time, 390 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: but we have a few more questions. My Coves wants 391 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: to ask you a couple of questions as well. 392 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: Hey Dan, this is Danny the other Danny and Larry's life. 393 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 4: Second place, Danny, you're the first place. 394 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: Martina than nice to me, so talk. You kind of 395 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: touched on that twenty twenty twenty one area. Now do 396 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: you see the Marlins at that point being more like 397 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: a Cubs and an Astros where they can be signed 398 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 3: and keep these guys, or do you see this market 399 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: kind of falling in the vein of the Royals where 400 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: they're going to have that run, but it's only a 401 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 3: run that they can sustain for so long. And at 402 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: some point, you know, the Lorenzo Knes are going to 403 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: be gone, the hospas are going to be gone, the 404 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: way Davis is going to be gone. 405 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: Like where do you see? 406 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: Do you see that they can sustain it all out 407 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: of the Cubs or is it more like a Royals 408 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 3: thing done here? 409 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: Right? 410 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 5: So I think they have to be a little bit 411 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 5: more nuanced than the Cubs in this market. You have 412 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 5: to play things a little bit more differently. So I 413 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 5: will not blame anyone that said, oh, they're going to 414 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 5: be the Royals. They might give us three or four years, 415 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 5: and then the same thing is going to happen. They're 416 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 5: going to be gone. Here are where the very important 417 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 5: hypotheticals matter. The Marlins finally have a stadium. The city 418 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 5: of Miami owns it, but the ownership put fifteen million 419 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 5: into it in order to renovate it this offseason. That's 420 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 5: a little point that I use for those that say, oh, well, 421 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 5: they might just leave. I wouldn't put fifteen million to 422 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 5: something I don't own if the intention is to leave 423 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 5: at some point. Number Two, they've invested enough in Miami, 424 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 5: they're starting. Their marketing has improved enough that I think 425 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 5: when the winning comes, it's really easy to go to 426 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 5: a team that has marketed in Little Havana, has marketed 427 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: in Coral Gables, has marketed all around. But those aren't 428 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 5: even the most important ones. The most important thing here 429 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: is money, right, Let's just get to it. The Marlins 430 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: need to have money in order to be able to 431 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 5: resign these players. Two things need to happen. Adam Jones, 432 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: who's an executive on the business side, has to be 433 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: able to get a TV deal that the Marlins have 434 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 5: never had. And secondly, they have to get a naming 435 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 5: right deal for the stadium that the Marlins have never had. 436 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 5: Think about the way that Lauria and previous ownerships ran 437 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 5: this organization with no stadium, with no TV deal, and 438 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 5: with no naming rights because they didn't even own the stadium. That's, 439 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 5: I mean, just incredible that they'ven survived the twenty years 440 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: they did with Lauria. The Marlins now have all of 441 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: those if Adam Jones can go and get the TV 442 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 5: deal and the naming rights. If they can, and it's 443 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 5: a hYP I think that they will be more like 444 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 5: the Cubs and the Royals, but they're never going to 445 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 5: replicate a big market here until they become the Miami 446 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 5: Heat of baseball. 447 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: Danny Martinez joining us from Fish Stripe's sp Nation. You 448 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: can catch his work on there. I invite you to 449 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: check it out because the guy is versed. You got 450 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 2: three adults over here, forget the kids. You got three 451 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: adults here wanting more. So I think you, of course, 452 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: with your permission. 453 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: We're poor. We do this for kids. I wish I 454 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: could pay you, but I'd love to have you. 455 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: On periodically, if not even a weekly, and create a 456 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: segment for you. You you've got your hands around this, 457 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: You really do, and I'm impressed with your knowledge. I 458 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: do want to ask you one last question. I mean, 459 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: not even pay my last question, but keep in mind 460 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: that I am optimistic that the person in charge, who 461 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: happens to be my favorite athlete of all time, will 462 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: take what was his greatness for twenty years on the 463 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: field and equated into greatness as an executive for the 464 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: Miami moments. Not being said, many people are being critical 465 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: of him here because guys like Derek Dietrich and Domingo 466 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: Hemang and others who didn't really need to get let 467 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: go in this mix did get let go and they're 468 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 2: just tearing the baseball off now. I get that we 469 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: needed to rebuild completely and it wasn't about winning right now, 470 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: but I wanted your take on some of the people 471 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: they let go that they could have probably held on 472 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: to affordably and waited and seen because they themselves could 473 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: have been assets in mid season trades, Guys like Dietrich, 474 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: guys like Yelich or Ozuna. I'm just curious your take 475 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: on it, because the common fan doesn't like the fact 476 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: that those people got you know, dispatched and with these 477 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 2: young arms people just sit here and dream about how 478 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: good they could have been. But the truth is they 479 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: still weren't a championship caliber team. 480 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 5: Would you agree, Yeah, I mean they averaged seventy five 481 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 5: wins together when they were together. Over the four years 482 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 5: that those that core played together, they averaged seventy five wins. However, 483 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 5: I'll actually I'll go not player by player. Of course, 484 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 5: I'm not going to take your entire segment, but i'll 485 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 5: touch it on a see that you spoke about. 486 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: So just for. 487 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 5: Clarification, right, so you mentioned like domingoid Man. He's one 488 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 5: of the best pitchers right now in the Yankees. Thank 489 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 5: goodness that you guys had him because y'all needed him. 490 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 5: He often gets mixed with like a Chris Paddock, right, 491 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 5: he gets he gets mixed with a Chris Paddock from 492 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: the Padres or das Guefani from The Reds. Oh, how 493 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: can Luis Castill from the from the Reds? Actually, how 494 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 5: can the Marlins give these guys away? 495 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 4: You've been listening to our show because we do this 496 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: all the time. 497 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, So, so Lauria, Lauria gave them away. It's very 498 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 5: it's very important now when we talk about in the 499 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 5: ownership to differentiate between which ones were traded under the 500 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 5: old ownership and which ones were traded under the new ownership. 501 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 5: All these pitchings that have been dominated on other teams 502 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: and other uniforms could have been Marlin's if that previous 503 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 5: regime had not traded them for a Fernando Rodney for 504 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 5: two months or and Andrew Pashener for six months. So 505 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 5: they were traded before. And that's what I like to 506 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 5: all the cause and effects. If Paddick, Heman, Cisco and 507 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: Williams and the rest of them, Castillo, we're all here 508 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen, then the magical two Unicorn pitches that 509 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 5: everyone talks about that we should have gotten would have 510 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: been in the system. And then you don't have to 511 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 5: go and deplete your entire system other than Stanton because 512 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 5: of the money. You don't have to deplete an Ozuna, 513 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 5: you don't have to deplete a Yelich. Now, the only 514 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 5: thing I'll say is this stan was always gone. Even 515 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 5: if phill gates about this team, when Laura backloaded that 516 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: contract to them, you know it was done, and the 517 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 5: contract came up. The contract came up. 518 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna interrupt you. The line of the interview. 519 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean it's true. 520 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: Hyperbolic, hysterical. I'm sorry, go ahead, good thing. I didn't 521 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: mean that was great. 522 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 5: So, like I was sitting there, and that's that's when 523 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 5: you say agony. Sometimes I'm not trying to sound like 524 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 5: I'm more observant or whatever. But when I'm sitting there 525 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 5: watching him hit sixty home runs knowing he's gone the 526 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 5: next year, whether Mass buys this team or anybody else, 527 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 5: that's agony. The casual fan enjoys the sixty homers. The 528 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: fan that knows that his contract is about to get 529 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 5: helium like us Capital, all of a sudden, you know 530 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 5: it's gonna be gone. So I'm sitting there enjoying the 531 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 5: sixty home runs knowing that Stan's going to be in 532 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 5: a Yankee uniform next year because he has a no 533 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 5: trade clause and he wants to go to the Yankees, 534 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: and he's gonna deny us everyone else, that's agony. 535 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: Now. 536 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: The only thing else say, is this the only real 537 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 5: trade in that rebuild that really hurts when you start 538 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: to look at the prospects, when you sit and you 539 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 5: look at prospect performance is Christian Yelich. Because Yelich went 540 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 5: to Miller Park and he became my trout and we 541 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 5: could talk a little bit about how that ballpark helps. 542 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 5: I mean, Castro hit a home on yesterday that would 543 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 5: have been a flyout in Marlin Starks. 544 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: Yes, but I saw your tweet. 545 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: By the way, let's move in the fences so the 546 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 2: Monus can be an offensive team. 547 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 4: I agree. 548 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 5: I'm all in give me some offense because I can't. 549 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 5: I can't anymore. But yees the Yelich goes and look, 550 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 5: the only thing I'll say with this is the original plan, 551 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 5: at least from those that have told me, was to 552 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 5: trade Stanton and trade Marcelo Zuna because Ozuna was a rental. 553 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 5: He's a free agent this year. If also wants to 554 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: come back today, he can well, you know, in the 555 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 5: off season he could come back. He was a free agent. 556 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: But then Christian Yellows gets upset. He goes to the media, right, 557 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 5: he has his public demands. I don't blame the kid. 558 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 5: The kid obviously made the right choice. He goes and 559 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: he wins MVP. But what are you going to do? 560 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 5: Hold him hostage? Now? They could have They did that 561 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 5: with Removes and they got a much better trade for 562 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 5: remodal because they held him for a year. So all 563 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 5: I'm saying, there's a cause and effect. If the pitching 564 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 5: was here, the trades aside from Stanton doesn't happen. But 565 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 5: the pitching wasn't here, So Stanton gets traded. Because Stanton 566 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: gets traded, Yellows gets upset, he demands the trade, he 567 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 5: gets upset, and he and he's traded. And then when 568 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 5: you trade the best guy, you might as well just 569 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 5: do it all over again. So you go from the 570 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 5: last farm system in baseball to a top thirteen. There 571 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 5: is a cause and effector that a lot of people overlook. 572 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Dan, at what point do you blame Mike 573 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: Hill for that cause and effect? 574 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: Oh? 575 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, okay, because that's. 576 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 5: How he survived the cross No, no, no, absolutely. But when 577 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: people say, and I don't like to talk about people's jobs, 578 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 5: like people ask me all the time on my podcast, 579 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 5: when is Maddingly going to get fired? Who should we replace? 580 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 581 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. 582 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 5: I don't like that. You know, that's fine, that's their job. 583 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 5: But yes, everyone that says, when is Mike Hill? Why 584 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 5: is the person who conducted these traits still here? Has 585 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 5: a very fair point. The only thing I can think 586 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 5: of to that is two things there are and this 587 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: isn't from me, This is from the Ken Rovenboles of 588 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: the world. There are a lot of reports that Laurier 589 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 5: really had a power struggle where mikeel actually wanted to 590 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 5: rebuild in step and sixteen and lawyer said, no, this 591 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 5: isn't happening because the twenty seventeen All Star Game is coming. 592 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 5: Lauria himself signed John buff in twenty and thirteen or 593 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 5: whenever that was the case. Lauria, it doesn't seem like 594 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 5: they had a good split in base on ownership relations. 595 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 5: That does not excuse what Mike kill has done. The 596 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 5: only thing else is this, when you buy a business, 597 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 5: you usually have one person that carries over and Baseball 598 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 5: would imagine it be the guy who knows the farm system. 599 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 5: And if that's the mentality, then so be it. I'm 600 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 5: not sure he's here next year, but I do understand 601 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 5: that point of it. 602 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: You're amazing dude, Like I'm glad I got into a 603 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: fight with you that you don't need anyway. 604 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're our new teacher. 605 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: We have to I have to subdue myself to the 606 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: fact that I'm being taught by a young man. 607 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 3: You say for baseball one for football. 608 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good. There you go. 609 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 2: Hey, you said you have a podcast. Where can we 610 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: hear this podcast? And then I want to ask you 611 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: one more question. I've been saying that for twenty minutes. 612 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely so. Fish Stripes has three sisted podcasts on Nation. 613 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 5: They're found anywhere you find podcasts, so iTunes, Apple, Google, Spotify, 614 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 5: whatever the case is. I host fish Bite and Earning 615 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 5: their Stripe, which is a podcast on the minor league system. 616 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: Now is this all part of esp Nation so that 617 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: they own it and you don't? 618 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: Because here's my thought process. 619 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: Brother, I don't know if two people listen to me 620 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: or two hundred thousand people listen to me, but I 621 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: am so willing to take that podcast and put it 622 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 2: on our airwaves with the permissions of whoever wants. 623 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: To because you're you. 624 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 2: I've spoken to people in the media that know nothing 625 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: about the Martins compared to you. It's straight up up you. 626 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: We sit here, we read up on it. Danny didn't 627 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: tell you anything. But Danny's really in the He's in 628 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: the fiber of everything that has to do with mornings, 629 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: and he's just sitting here nodding yes to everything you're saying. 630 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: I'd love the opportunity to have and host, at least 631 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: for a few months your podcasts. If ESB Nation allows it, 632 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if they do or not. Find out 633 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: and if that's the case, I mean, we're willing to 634 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: do this. 635 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 4: Man. 636 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: We'd like to have you in once a week at 637 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: least if you have time with work and whatnot, or 638 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: at your leisure. 639 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: But you are a. 640 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: Wealth of knowledge, my man, and I really appreciate you 641 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: coming on the show. 642 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: Thank you, my brother. I appreciate you for having me on. 643 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 5: It's honestly gonna blast you. Guys had any heights with 644 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 5: other music before I came on, so I was excited 645 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 5: for it. But but yeah, I will definitely let you know, 646 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: and you know, we'll text back and forth find out. 647 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: I'm serious now, I'm not just saying this on radio. 648 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: I'm incredibly serious. 649 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: If they say sure, you can do it, and it's 650 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: all in how you have to do sentinels, we'll give 651 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: you instructions. 652 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: We'll put it on the air and put it on 653 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 4: two three times a week if you want. I don't care. 654 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: I've got room to do it. You need to take advantage. 655 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: It is national airwaves. Not too bad. 656 00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 5: Sounds good to me. 657 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: Sounds good to me, Danny Martinez. 658 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: He is our new resident Marlins expert here on Good 659 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: Morning on Ego. Because myself and Frank know nothing about 660 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: you know, Frank's an employee. 661 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: Of the team. I don't know if you know that. 662 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: Oh, there we go. 663 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't talk about it much here because well, 664 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: whenever I get mad at the Marlins, we turn off 665 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: his mic. 666 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: He's not allowed to speak, he's not allowed to say anything. 667 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: We don't want him to even burp on the air, 668 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: just we don't want it to be mistaken. 669 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 4: Right, We don't want Yeah, we don't want him to 670 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 4: burp on the air. 671 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: That's just not just in case they think maybe he's being, 672 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: you know, flipping towards the team. Yeah, don't burp, Frank, 673 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: don't do that. That's not good anyway. Man, I appreciate 674 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: you big time. I'll be texting you later today. Find 675 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: that out for me. Man, we want you on here. 676 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: You're You're fantastic and I'm gonna put you on hold 677 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: real quick before we go to break. 678 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: But thanks again, Danny Martinez. 679 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: Catch him on Fish stripes, Espion Nation site covering the 680 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: Miami Martins and guess what, guys, The dude is a G. 681 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: He knows this all. Man. I'm really impressed with your knowledge. 682 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 4: Thanks Danny, I appreciate it.