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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,

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Speaker 2: you had one heck of a day and anybody that

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Speaker 2: was watching the SpaceX launch, so you standing right next

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Speaker 2: to President Trump and Elon Musk, this had to be

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Speaker 2: a very interesting day of conversations as you spent eleven

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Speaker 3: Well, I did, and I'll tell you last night, I

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Speaker 3: was on the Senate floor till nearly midnight because Chuck

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Speaker 3: Schumer is ramming through a whole bunch of judges and

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Speaker 3: we were fighting him until midnight, kept the Democrats on

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Speaker 3: the Senate floor until midnight. And then this morning, I

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Speaker 3: woke up early, I got on a plane and I

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Speaker 3: flew from DC down to Palm Beach, and then I

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Speaker 3: flew with President Trump from Palm Beach to Brownsville, Texas

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Speaker 3: for the launch the SpaceX launch today, and spent the

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Speaker 3: afternoon with President Trump and Elon Musk, and then flew

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Speaker 3: back with President Trump to Palm Beach where I'm overnighting

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Speaker 3: and I'll be back in DC to So it was

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Speaker 3: a full day. It was a fascinating day, a lot

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Speaker 3: to talk about. We also are going to talk about

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Speaker 3: today Alvin Bragg's attempt to extend lawfair, to extend this

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Speaker 3: criminal trial for five years, to punt it down the road,

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Speaker 3: and to hold it as a sort of damocles over

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Speaker 3: President Trump. This is going to fail, is my prediction.

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Speaker 3: But we're going to talk about that as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going I got a lot of questions to

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Speaker 2: ask you about that plane ride and what I was

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Speaker 2: talked about, because it's the first time you guys have

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Speaker 2: spent some real quality time together since election Day, and

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Speaker 2: I know everybody listening has got a million questions in

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Speaker 1: That's the word.

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Speaker 2: Text the word America to eight seven two to two

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Speaker 2: right now, all right center, We're going to do rapid

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Speaker 2: fire here because there's a million people that are thinking

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Speaker 2: what I'm thinking and that is how does it work.

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Speaker 2: You go down to Florida, you meet at the tarmac,

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Speaker 2: and then you get on Trump Force one.

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Speaker 1: What is the process of that? Even?

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Speaker 3: Like so, that's exactly right, and the way it worked

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Speaker 3: is I got to call yesterday from Trump's team saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: And I said sure, And so I had to get

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Speaker 3: Uh, And so I flew in commercial down to Palm

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Speaker 3: and met the President on Trump Force one. I have

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Speaker 4: You know. It made me.

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Speaker 3: It reminded me of the first time I joined him

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Speaker 3: he laughed as well. And I have to say his

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Speaker 3: having been on both Trump Force one is really nice.

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Speaker 3: It's a very well decked out. It's a beautiful plane

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Speaker 3: inside a lot of space. And so we sat sad

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Speaker 3: a lot of time sitting in the plane talking. It

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Speaker 3: was beautiful. We were there also with a number of folks.

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Speaker 3: Don Junior came, Don Junior's eldest.

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Speaker 4: Or Kai came.

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Speaker 3: Uh. We we had Actually, you are going to be

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Speaker 3: very impressed.

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Speaker 4: By who came. Do you know who was there?

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Speaker 1: Who else?

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Speaker 4: Bryson Deschambeau.

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Speaker 1: Well, see that now I'm now I'm having fomo right now.

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Speaker 1: That's that.

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Speaker 2: And for people that don't know who Bryson is, Bryson

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Speaker 2: uh and is and has been a huge Trump supporter

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Speaker 2: and loves hanging out with him.

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Speaker 1: They play golf together quite often.

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Speaker 4: Well, and he just won the US Open.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And and it was I'll tell you a good

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Speaker 4: A good chunk of the conversation was about.

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Speaker 3: Their golf game and and he he and Trump play

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Speaker 3: a lot, and what do you think Bryson drives?

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go three forty would probably be somewhere

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Speaker 2: in that area. I mean, the guy just hammers the ball,

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Speaker 3: He said he drives pretty consistently three fifty to three sixty.

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Speaker 2: And that yeah, with technology now, he's getting better every year.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. So he just went to go watch the

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Speaker 3: No, he's he is, and he's a he's a Texan

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Speaker 3: I didn't know him, but I hung out with him.

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Speaker 4: He was a great guy.

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed hanging out with him. Linda McMahon was

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Speaker 3: on the plane. Now, Linda McMahon was just announced as

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Speaker 3: as the new Secretary of Education. I know lynd under

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Speaker 3: he said, well, what do you think Linda's going to

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Speaker 3: of that? And we were like great. In fact, he

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Speaker 3: We put it out tomorrow, And they ended up putting

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Speaker 3: and so I had a good chance. I know Linda

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Speaker 3: American First Policy Institute, so she's been very engaged with

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Speaker 3: a bit about the legislation that I authored during the

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Speaker 3: first Trump administration that that would be the most far

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Speaker 3: reaching federal school choice legislation that's ever passed, and it

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Speaker 3: was legislation that I announced with Betsy de vas Trump's

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Speaker 3: first Secretary of Education at the Department of Education, and

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Speaker 3: Lenna and I talked about that and working to push

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Speaker 3: for school choice, to expand the options for students and

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Speaker 3: working together on that.

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Speaker 2: And she's an advocate for her school choice from what

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Speaker 2: I've read, is that correct? I mean, that's something that

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Speaker 2: certainly she is saying, yes, I like this idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she is certainly an advocate for school choice. And

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Speaker 3: she also has been an advocate for workforce training and education.

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Speaker 3: That's something she's done a lot of at America First

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Speaker 3: Policy Institute. And the proposal that I authored, what it

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Speaker 3: consists of is federal tax credits dollar for dollar tax

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Speaker 3: is focused on workforce development education. And the way the

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Speaker 3: legislation is structured, each state can choose whether to opt

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Speaker 3: and the states can opt into the K through twelve

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Speaker 3: part or the Workforce Development part, or both. And the

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Speaker 3: way it operates is once the state opts in, any

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Speaker 3: results in is ten billion dollars in additional resources going

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Speaker 3: to education and school choice. The way it is drafted, however,

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Speaker 3: the federal government stays out of the business of curriculum.

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Speaker 3: The federal government has no control, no strings over what's taught.

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Speaker 3: The only requirement is that for the states to participate,

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Speaker 3: they cannot discriminate against private schools.

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Speaker 4: Or religious schools. They have to let parents and students decide.

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Speaker 3: And if they do that, the money flows, and it

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Speaker 3: would be transformational. To give you a sense of what

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Speaker 3: it means means for a state the size of Texas.

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Speaker 3: Texas is about ten percent of the national population. The

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Speaker 3: money is allocated pro rata, so that would mean about

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Speaker 3: a billion dollars a year in additional scholarships going to

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Speaker 3: young people and adults in.

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Speaker 4: The state of Texas, which would be really, really potent.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about that reform since you mentioned her name.

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Speaker 2: And this is the best part about this show is

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Speaker 2: we get to, you know, go down these rabbit holes.

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Speaker 2: There has been such just fervor from the left to

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Speaker 2: not move towards school choice because it's all about the teachers' unions.

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Speaker 2: It's all about putting the unions first instead of the kids.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of kids in failing schools. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of African American kids, minority kids. The stand of

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Speaker 2: kids that are in failing schools as well. Is there

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Speaker 2: the political will power this go around to actually do it,

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Speaker 2: because look, I've seen a lot of concerns say, oh,

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Speaker 2: they like the idea a keyword idea of school choice,

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Speaker 2: but when it comes down to it, they're afraid their Gunshi.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like we're seeing a turn now, especially

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Speaker 3: So at the state level, definitely, at the federal level,

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Speaker 1: So stay does that become the blueprint then?

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, Texas should be leading.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things to remember, Texas has about

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Speaker 3: Part of the reason my legislation combines K through twelve

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Speaker 2: That and I know you guys, you had it on

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Speaker 2: slash verdict. So let's talk about this. It's not just

442
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Speaker 2: domestic policy, it's foreign policy. Trump is clearly saying I'll

443
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Speaker 2: talk to anybody anywhere if it's for the good of

444
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Speaker 2: the country and for the good of the people, and

445
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Speaker 2: whether it's on the media peep side or with these

446
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Speaker 2: leaders around the world. And that is something I think

447
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Speaker 2: is contagious that also threatens Washington.

448
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and we spent a good chunk of the

449
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Speaker 3: plane ride, also talking about number one, how to resolve

450
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Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine and Trump's concern and my concern

451
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Speaker 3: that Joe Biden is escalating the war and it really

452
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Speaker 3: is getting dangerous where we are in these next two months.

453
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Speaker 3: But also talking about how to end the war in Israel,

454
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Speaker 3: how to defeat himas and get the hostages back. And

455
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Speaker 3: so we had a really robust conversation on both of

456
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Speaker 3: those fronts, and those are major foreign policy challenges that

457
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Speaker 3: Trump was inheriting, and I have predicted for a long

458
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Speaker 3: time that both of those wars will come to an

459
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Speaker 3: end in the next year and maybe even sooner than that,

460
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Speaker 3: because they were both caused I think fundamentally by the

461
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Speaker 3: weakness of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the.

462
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Speaker 4: Weakness of our commander in chief.

463
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Speaker 3: And I think having a strong commander in chief is

464
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Speaker 3: going to dramatically alter how our enemies behave and bring

465
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Speaker 3: those conflicts to an end.

466
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Speaker 4: So we talked about that at considerable length.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can see people taking his lead at Germany,

468
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Speaker 2: even talking with Russia saying maybe it's time to wind

469
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Speaker 2: this thing down. That's not something they'd said before. So

470
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Speaker 2: let's talk about confirmations. For a second, what does the

471
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Speaker 2: schedule look like right now? And I'm sure this had

472
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Speaker 2: to be part of the conversation because he names people.

473
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Speaker 2: And then what you do next is you go meet

474
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Speaker 2: with members of Congress to try to gain support. I'm

475
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Speaker 2: assuming that's full speed ahead right now. Those meetings are already

476
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Speaker 2: taking place.

477
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Speaker 3: Sure that is moving forward. And what's going to happen

478
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Speaker 3: is at the beginning of January, the new Congress will

479
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Speaker 3: be sworn in, So the new Congress will be sworn

480
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Speaker 3: in before Trump is, and so we will begin in

481
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Speaker 3: the Senate hearings on the people he's name to the

482
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Speaker 3: cabinet even before he's president. Now, we can't confirm anyone

483
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Speaker 3: before he's president because he can't nominate anyone until he

484
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Speaker 3: is president. But we can do the hearings the first

485
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks of January, and I fully anticipate that's

486
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Speaker 3: what the Senate will do, so that we can move

487
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Speaker 3: expeditiously with confirmations, in particular of the top cabinet appointments.

488
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Speaker 3: And so we talked about that at considerable length as well.

489
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Speaker 3: And then I got to tell you when we landed

490
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Speaker 3: in Texas, and we landed in Brownsville. Brownsville, as you know,

491
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Speaker 3: is the southern tip of Texas, and it's where SpaceX

492
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Speaker 3: at Boca Chica has built their launch site and has

493
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Speaker 3: built a factory.

494
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Speaker 4: And the factory is where they build.

495
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Speaker 3: Starships, which are massive that that they're the largest rockets

496
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Speaker 3: in the world.

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Speaker 4: They're absolutely massive. Uh.

498
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Speaker 3: They build them there, and it's where the launch was

499
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Speaker 3: and and and the size of it just the rocket

500
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Speaker 3: booster has thirty three Raptor engines in it.

501
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Speaker 4: Wow.

502
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Speaker 3: And each of those Raptor engines produces twice as much

503
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Speaker 3: thrust as all four engines on a seven forty seven. So,

504
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Speaker 3: I mean, it is incredible the power that comes out

505
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Speaker 3: of the engines. And by the way, SpaceX makes those engines,

506
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: they make the boosters, they make, they make the starship.

507
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Speaker 3: And so we were gathered at the observation deck to

508
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Speaker 3: watch the launch. And the observation deck is a couple

509
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Speaker 3: of miles away from the launch because you can't be

510
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: too close the noise it is too great. And so

511
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Speaker 3: we you know, saw the launch control room and and

512
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Speaker 3: and then stood there with it with Elon and he

513
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: was telling us about all the challenges and listen, they're

514
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Speaker 3: still in the in the testing mode.

515
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is.

516
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: A star ship that that that Elon hopes and intends

517
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: to take to Mars. And so they are testing that

518
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: that they're improving, for example, the the the ceramic heat

519
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: shield tiles that are on the starship. They're improving their thrusters,

520
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 3: and then they're experimenting and learning what works, and so

521
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: we you know, look, Elon was was very honest. He said,

522
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Speaker 3: look at a test like this, we don't know what happens.

523
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Speaker 3: And sometimes when you're testing rockets, you know, rockets can

524
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Speaker 3: blow up.

525
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Speaker 4: It's why you test them to.

526
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Speaker 3: Make sure that that that that if they do have

527
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Speaker 3: a problem, that they have a problem before you have

528
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Speaker 3: a man's crew on it. And there was no man

529
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Speaker 3: crew on this launch. But you're testing different different technology

530
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Speaker 3: to see how it operates. And so we stood there

531
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Speaker 3: and watched the launch, and people all around the world

532
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: watch the launch. The launch was successful. It was amazing

533
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Speaker 3: to watch. We saw it. What was really striking is

534
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 3: you see it and then then it takes several seconds

535
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Speaker 3: for the sound to travel that distance. So it's already

536
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Speaker 3: and I mean you're literally even at a cut several

537
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Speaker 3: miles away, like like the ground is shaking from the

538
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Speaker 3: force of the rocket launch.

539
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Speaker 4: And Elon is someone whom I know.

540
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Speaker 3: Well, I've spent a lot of time with Elon, but

541
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: every time I'm with him, the guy is just so

542
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: friggin smart. I mean, it's look, Ben, I've been blessed

543
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: to get to know a lot of really scary smart people,

544
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: and I got to say, Elon is just in a

545
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: class all by himself. I mean, it's the guy just

546
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: thinks it's not even outside the box. He doesn't know

547
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Speaker 3: there's a box.

548
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Speaker 4: He just you look at.

549
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Speaker 3: Something like rocket ships. Everyone fired rockets in the air

550
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Speaker 3: and then the boosters fell and you just discarded them

551
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: and you did it again, and so every rocket was

552
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: a single use rocket, and and Elon revolutionized said well,

553
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: wait a second, why do we have to have single

554
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: use rockets? Why not fire rocket in the air and

555
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: then have it come down, and why not catch it

556
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: out of the air with giant robot arms which he

557
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: calls chopsticks. And everyone said, Okay, that's absurd, that's insane.

558
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: Nobody can do that. That doesn't make any sense. And

559
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: of course that's exactly what Elon built, and it's it

560
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: has so changed it was kind of funny. Elon referred

561
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: several times, uh to the to this as alien technology

562
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: and and and you know it, I don't think that's

563
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: too much of an exaggeration watching it, so we all

564
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: watched an amazement as.

565
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Speaker 2: As as we were watching it, or I was watching

566
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Speaker 2: on TV, and many others were. I do have to

567
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: say one of the most fun parts for me of

568
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: watching you know, Trump and you and everybody there is

569
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: just the boy boyhood excitement is and I say that

570
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: in the in the in the the most sincere and

571
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: authentic way ever on the faces of everyone that was.

572
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Speaker 1: Able to watch this.

573
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Speaker 2: I don't care who you are, just getting to watch

574
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Speaker 2: it and to see Elon's face and in your face

575
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: and President Trump's face and others that were around you guys.

576
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: I saw Haggarty there for example. It was just the

577
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Speaker 2: moment of like, this is unbelievable.

578
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: Well, and it was traveling, so the starship itself traveled

579
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Speaker 3: halfway around the world.

580
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: The booster separated.

581
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: We saw the booster separate, and initially the plan was

582
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Speaker 3: that it was going to go down and be caught

583
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: by the robot arms where it had been launched, and

584
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: in fact it separates. So the booster was attached to

585
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: the starship for a minute and a half and then

586
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: it separated, and we initially got the call catches a go,

587
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: which we were excited about because they only tried to

588
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: catch it if all the conditions are right. And so

589
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: they were going to catch the booster, and then they

590
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: ended up altering the plan and not doing the catch,

591
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: but having it instead landed the Gulf of Mexico, and

592
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: so the conditions were slightly.

593
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Speaker 4: Off, and so they had it landed the gulf.

594
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: But Elon was really happy because it landed in the gulf,

595
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: but it did not explode, and last time when it

596
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: landed the golf, it did explode. And so look, they're

597
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: testing different things to see what happens. And it was interesting.

598
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: It floats in the water, and I was asking Elon

599
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: why does it float? He says, well, look, once once

600
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: the liquid methane and liquid oxygen is out, he said,

601
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: it has the density essentially of an empty beer can.

602
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: And so just like you throw an empty beer can

603
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: on the water and it floats, that's the same thing

604
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: as the booster. And so they're going and salvaging the

605
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: booster and discovering Okay, what happened? What's going on there?

606
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 3: So that landed pretty quickly. The starship traveled for about

607
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Speaker 3: an hour and it landed.

608
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Speaker 2: I think about go inside after how long were you outside?

609
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Speaker 1: And then where did you get to watch the second part?

610
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: So we were outside.

611
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: We arrived probably an hour before the launch, and so

612
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: we were talking with Elon and we were in the

613
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Speaker 3: control room and just having conversations, and we watched lunch,

614
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: and we watched the booster separate, and.

615
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: Then we watched the booster come down, although.

616
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Speaker 3: We couldn't see the booster landed far enough out in

617
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Speaker 3: the gulf that we couldn't see with our naked eye

618
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: the booster landing in the water, but we had the

619
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Speaker 3: video on a.

620
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Speaker 4: Big screen, so we were watching it there.

621
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Speaker 3: And then what we did, because you had about an

622
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: hour while the starship was traveling in space and it

623
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: was going about twenty six thousand kilometers an hour. It

624
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 3: was about one hundred and sixty kilometers above planet Earth.

625
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: One of the things Elon said is that the starship

626
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: was traveling about ten times the speed of a bullet

627
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: out of an assault rifle, which there's an analogy you

628
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: can understand. Ben and as find out. Junior was laughing, going,

629
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: all right, that makes sense to me too.

630
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: But that's fast.

631
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fast on a whole nother level. And so

632
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: you got to watch all of this take place. How

633
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: important is this just this technology and the fact that

634
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: it's being done in Texas, because that is the reason

635
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: why you were on that plane. That's why they asked

636
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: you to go down there, because this is in Texas.

637
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 2: I don't think people realize what this is doing for

638
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: the Texas economy as well.

639
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: So it is incredible.

640
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: And while the starship was flying halfway around the world,

641
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: left the launch observation site, we went to the factory,

642
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: which is right at the launch site now the factory,

643
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: so five years ago this was essentially an empty beach,

644
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: like just sand and nothing was on it. And in

645
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: five years Elon has built this incredible and I've been

646
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: to it before, I've toured it before, but it is

647
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: it takes your breath away. They are manufacturing about one

648
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: rocket ship a month, and then these things are massive.

649
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: So you go into the factory and there I think

650
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: it was twenty two stories high. As how tall the

651
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: booster is, I mean it just goes up and up

652
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: and up and up, and it's huge. And you know,

653
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: we went in and saw and they are manufacturing them

654
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: to a level of precision down to the tenth of

655
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Speaker 3: a millimeter. I mean, you think about this, it's not

656
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: like it's not like SpaceX is making just widgets. I mean,

657
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: if a screw is wrong, the damn think can blow up.

658
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: There's so many ways for something to go wrong. And

659
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: and they have a level of precision that is just astonishing.

660
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: And so we went in and saw and toured. And

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Speaker 4: That was a very cool aspect of it as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, final question on this trip.

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Speaker 2: So you get done with all this excitement and then

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Speaker 2: this is still kind of awesome. You get back on

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Speaker 2: Trump Force one and you fly back to Florida. What

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Speaker 2: was the conversation like on the way home again?

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Speaker 4: It was relaxed. We're having fun, We're talking.

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Speaker 3: You know, we had had Fox on and so we're

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Speaker 3: You know. As we were landing, Trump began playing music.

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Speaker 3: And so when he's standing at mar a Lago, Trump

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Speaker 3: likes to basically be the DJ, and he has an

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Speaker 3: a music video that he loves from guns N' Roses,

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Speaker 3: and then he put on another music video from Pabroti,

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Speaker 3: which would you want to talk about some breadth in

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Speaker 3: music Taste. That's what we were listening to as we

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Speaker 3: went wheels down back in Florida.

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Speaker 2: Now, did you eat any McDonald's, Because there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of pictures that get taken on Trump forts one eat McDonald's.

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Speaker 4: We did not. Our dinner instead was Waterburger because we

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Speaker 1: Dammit, I love it. See I set you up perfect

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Speaker 1: for that answer.

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Speaker 4: So the answer to that, did you?

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Speaker 1: I know?

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Speaker 2: But I set you up there perfectly. So what did

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Speaker 2: no brainer for him?

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Speaker 4: He was like, this is a really good Hamburger. Wow,

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Speaker 4: this is really great. I mean he was I would

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Speaker 4: say he was a fan.

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Speaker 1: I love it. All right.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you lastly about big news that happened,

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Speaker 2: and this is much more of a serious topic. Trump

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Speaker 2: team is declaring victory after the Manhattan prosecutors push for

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Speaker 2: a four year freeze on sentencing Donald Trump in his

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Speaker 2: business records case. I've never heard of this before in

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Speaker 2: my life. Maybe this is something that's normal. And Alvin

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Speaker 2: Bragg is upset. He's like, no, no, I still want to

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Speaker 2: go after Donald Trump. You gonna delay it. We'll delay it.

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Speaker 2: But I want him. I still want him. I still

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Speaker 2: believe I'm right. I still want to put him in jail.

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Speaker 3: Well, President Trump has filed emotion to dismiss his criminal conviction,

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Speaker 3: and the Manhattan Prosecutor, instead of agreeing to that, has

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Speaker 3: suggested to the judge, no, no, no, don't dismiss it. Just

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Speaker 3: put it on hold for four years, just freeze it.

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Speaker 3: Don't sentence him, just leave the conviction hanging out there.

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Speaker 3: And I got to say, look, unprecedented doesn't begin to

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Speaker 3: describe it.

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Speaker 4: It is an absolute abuse of power.

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Speaker 3: And look, you had to understand, Alvin Bragg is an

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Speaker 3: elected Democrat in Manhattan. In Manhattan, you've still got an

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Speaker 3: overwhelming majority of Democrats, many of whom hate Donald Trump's guts,

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Speaker 3: and so for Alvin Bragg, even though politically nationally the

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Speaker 3: a significant factor in his winning.

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Speaker 4: And that was the point I made to him on

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Speaker 4: the play, is.

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Speaker 3: That I said, we talked quite a bit about all

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Speaker 3: the cases and everything he's endured, and I said, look, ironically,

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Speaker 3: the more they went after you, the more I think

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Speaker 3: it helped you.

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Speaker 4: And if it had been just one indictment, it might

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Speaker 3: There were so many that it became obvious to anyone

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Speaker 3: that this was just a persecution.

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Speaker 4: This was a political witch hunt.

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Speaker 3: This was a partisan effort to go after someone because

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Speaker 3: they were terrified that what would happen.

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Speaker 4: Is what, in fact did.

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Speaker 3: Happen, that the American people would vote to re elect him,

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Speaker 3: and and and I think, as I said, it ended

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Speaker 3: it it I think was harmful to Democrats nationally in Manhattan,

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Speaker 3: I suspect it's quite helpful to Alvin Brad because there

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Speaker 3: are a lot of partisans who hate Trump. And I

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Speaker 3: got to say, I am very hopeful, you know that

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Speaker 3: this will be thrown out. The judge, Juan Marchan has demonstrated,

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Speaker 3: I think, a lot of bias he is. He is

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Speaker 3: put this on ice for four years, I think that

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Speaker 3: will prompt an appeal. It will probably prompt what's called

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Speaker 3: what Alvin Bragg wants to do is he wants to

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Speaker 3: a conviction of Donald Trump, and to use it number.

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Speaker 4: One, for his political advantage.

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Speaker 3: Number two, he wants to avoid a depellate reversal, so

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Speaker 3: But number three, he wants to use this to threaten

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Speaker 3: enough of a zealoth that. I mean, he's literally talking

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Speaker 3: about okay, four plus years from now, when he's done

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Speaker 3: with being president's eighty two years old. Alvin Bragg wants

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Speaker 3: to put him in jail like it just to be

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Speaker 3: there to threaten the president every day. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: number four, he wants CNN and MSNBC and all of

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Speaker 3: the corporate media to refer to him as a convicted

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Speaker 3: felon over and over and over again. And if the

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Speaker 3: case is thrown out, that becomes a lot more problematic.

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Speaker 3: I do not believe Album and Bragg will succeed in this.

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Speaker 3: Either the trial judge will say, look, this is not tenable,

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Speaker 3: you can't you can't have a jury verdict, and then

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Speaker 3: just free sentencing for four years, or if not, I

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Speaker 3: think we will see an appellate court step in and

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Speaker 3: say that this is inconsistent with New York law and

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Speaker 3: it's inconsistent with the Constitution.

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Speaker 4: I'm very hopeful that's what will happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's fair to say one heck of

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Speaker 2: a day, Senator, and a great day for the citizens

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Speaker 2: in Texas, for just everybody down there in Brownsville, and

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Speaker 2: also to hear that things are full speed ahead on

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Speaker 2: the Trump train after this mandate and a big victory.

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Speaker 2: I also just love hearing the Donald Trump's and such

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Speaker 2: good spirits. He's been through hell and back. He's literally

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Speaker 2: been shot in the last six months. And to see

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