1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: A frustrating twenty to ten loss in Seattle. The Cardinals 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: now hold the second worst record in the league. One 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: in six Welcome into Morning Scramble, presented by Verizen from 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: the Sea Peek Studios alongside Jody Jackson and Dak Gershman. 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm Danny Siak. 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Was a frustrating loss because, unlike previous weeks, the Cardinals 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: didn't give themselves a chance. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: Jody, this felt very. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Much like the performance we saw week one in Washington 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: when the Cardinals only had six days with their quarterback. 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it did. Everything on offense just looked very chaotic. 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: And look, we've gone through some of the numbers. You 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: get three turnovers, they were at times it looked like 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 3: Seattle was giving you the game and you only get 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 3: three points out of that. Again, we saw a second 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: half where they didn't score points, outscored sixty seven to 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: seven in fourth quarters this season. It all added up 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: to really a performance where you said, how are you 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: still in this game? And yet couldn't get over the hump. 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: The only touchdown was just that great effort by Josh 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: Dobbs with his legs. But it begs the question, guys, 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: the passing game, it looks like it's regressed again. 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: There are times where you know, Josh Dobbs. 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: Is making plays with his legs, but as far as 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: anything through the air, it's just not on time. A 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: lot of late throws, a lot of not you know, 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: throws that are not accurate, some passes that maybe. 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: Should have been caught. It's just how do you thread 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: that needle right now? 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: That's kind of the question that we're all asking because look, 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: the defense kept them in this game. 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: I loved the effort. I loved finding. 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they give up some plays, but they stayed in 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: the fight. And on offense they were fighting as well. 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: But like everyone said, and like JG who Josh Dobbs 36 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: quoted after the game, you know. 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: He liked what they were doing. Just have to do 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: it better. 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: You just have to execute the plays a little bit 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: better as. 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 4: Much as it's executing. As much as it's execution, though, 42 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: the chemistry just did not seem to be there. They 43 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: were so out of it. Think, yeah, that there were 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: moments where the passes were inaccurate, but when you just 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: don't have that sort of that sort of chemistry. We 46 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: spoke about how in the past, about how it seemed 47 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: a little bit off with zach Ertz and how it 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: seemed off with Hywood Brown. In this case, it seemed 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: off across the entire eleven man offense. 50 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't just passes that were behind players, which we've 51 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: seen the last couple of weeks. There were multiple situations 52 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: where there were two players near each other and dogs 53 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: would throw the ball in between them. It was unclear 54 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: who he was even targeting in that. 55 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: Interception that was ultimately called back. The interception was negated. 56 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 4: It was one of those It was one of those 57 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: passes from Josh Dopps where you're like, what is exactly 58 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: the thought process here? That's why I would love to 59 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: sit down, be a fly on the wall in the 60 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: film room and hear what the coaching staff is talking 61 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: about with this and with Drew Petsing talking about with 62 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs, because in this case you were wondering who's 63 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: he exactly targeting. They were only about three four yards 64 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: away from each other, the two wide receivers were and 65 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: he thread the needle. It just was to Devin Witherspoon. 66 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: So obviously, fortunately the penalty was the penalty force the 67 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: interception and had been negated, but it was so it 68 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: was a head scratching moment. There were multiple head scratching 69 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: moments on the offensive side of the ball. 70 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: Let's take a closer look at the offensive numbers for 71 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and they're twenty to ten loss to the 72 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks Sunday. Two hundred and forty nine total yards, 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven on the ground, one twenty 74 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: two in the air, one touchdown, zero turnovers, Josh Dobbs 75 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: nineteen for thirty three, no chemistry with his receivers, inconsistent accuracy. 76 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Jody which part of Dobbs's play was most hindering the 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: offensive success. 78 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really hard to pinpoint it because look, when 79 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: you have a game like that. While Josh Dobbs is 80 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: the quarterback and has to take a lot of the 81 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: blame when he misses throws, it's never really only one guy. 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: It starts up front. And look this offensive line. At 83 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 3: times we've looked and we've said what a great job 84 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: they're doing, and you know, these are guys that haven't 85 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: played together much. Again, chemistry is actually use your word, 86 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: that's tough. O line is important with that, and at 87 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: times they've overachieved. But look the last couple of weeks, 88 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: the pressure's really getting to Josh Dobbs in those passing situations. 89 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: And I think that's what we saw yesterday. Now as 90 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: a quarterback again, you have to handle that better. That's 91 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: how quarterbacks, you know, make their money in this league. 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: That's how they become. You grow from a backup to 93 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: a starter. When you're under pressure, when you're under duress, 94 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: when things are going haywire, you find a way to 95 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: make a play. And I think at the end of 96 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 3: the day, Danny, without you know, really looking at play 97 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: by play what happened on each one, Josh Dobbs has 98 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: to find a way to make those. 99 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: Plays under duress. 100 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: But I will say the other word that I came 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: to my mind was some catastrophic plays on offense. Right, 102 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: So they had momentum when you had the McBride hurdle. 103 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: You had a nice play there, and then you take 104 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: a big step back with a snap over the head, 105 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: and then a missed field goal, and then the fake 106 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: punt that didn't work, and then the the Dobs to Ertz. 107 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: Can you know that didn't happen on third and nine? 108 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: I believe it was so. And as they went out 109 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: of order, because then that's what precipitated the fake punt. 110 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: But you know, all of those plays, you just can't 111 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: have that many catastrophic plays. 112 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: Everybody makes mistakes, but when you have that many over 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: a game, you see what you saw, which was only 114 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: ten points. 115 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: I think a big part of it, too, is the 116 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: type of passes that were thrown. There were so many 117 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: passes that were short of first downs across the board. 118 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 4: There were three receptions twenty one yards was the longest 119 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: reception from Hollywood Brown, nineteen for Trade McBride, eleven for 120 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. After that, no other receiver had a pass 121 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: that completed for longer than ten yards. And when those 122 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: type of situations happened, when you know you're struggling in 123 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: first and second down and third down especially, this team 124 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: has not been able to get over the hump, and 125 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon has repeatedly said, in order for us to 126 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: avoid getting stuck on third down, we have to be 127 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: stronger on first and second When you're not throwing the 128 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: ball further down the field, then nine yards you're not 129 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: going to run. You're not gonna have much success in 130 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: that category. 131 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: A slow start for the Cardinals in the first quarter, 132 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: aftering just one point seven yards per play. The bright 133 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: spot was the touchdown Josh Dobbs, the twenty five yard 134 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: run into the end zone. That entire series was a 135 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: roller coaster. Dodds throws the interception in the end zone 136 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: to Michael Wilson. It's negated by a Seattle roughing the 137 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: passer penalty. There's a little bit of a dust up afterwards, 138 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: and as left tackle DJ Humphries goes to take a 139 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Seattle's player's hand out of his face, he ends up 140 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: making contact with an official, having him disqualified. 141 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: For the game. 142 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: Arizona was already without their starting offensive line lineup. Left 143 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: guard Elijah Wilkinson was out with a neck injury. It 144 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: was Tristan Cologne, So now the entire left side is different. 145 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: You've got Colone in at left guard. Kelvin Beacham went 146 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: in at left tackle. However, mentally, Cardinals responded well because 147 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: that following play was the touchdown drive. 148 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 4: And that ability that Josh Dobbs has to get out 149 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: of the pocket has been the one thing that has 150 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 4: kept the Cardinals in games week after week. We've talked 151 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: about the passing has not been able to get the 152 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: job done. But the rushing skills with the running backs 153 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: and with Josh Dobbs, knowing you have that Ann rondel 154 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 4: Moore as a whole, He's done a great job getting 155 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: in the backfield as well and getting some first downs 156 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: at that. But that ability in the the resilience to 157 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: bounce back after your starting left tackle, your captain goes 158 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: out and I the dust up. I mean in the moment. Obviously, 159 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: I think after the fact, I'm sure if the referee 160 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: is watching it over the decision might have been a 161 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: little bit different. But in the moment, the call is 162 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: what the call is. 163 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: I decided to lose it anyway. 164 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: On X I'm getting better at not calling at Twitter 165 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: and get upset about that it was in Inverton. But 166 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: you know, again, the adult in me knows that contact 167 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: is contact. We all know how that's called, and so 168 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: they don't care how or why it happened. And we've 169 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: seen it before in the past where it's just if 170 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: you touch the official, you're gonna get called there. But yeah, 171 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: I mean Beacham, that's why Beacham this yere right. He 172 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: did a nice job filling in and he's the guy 173 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: you can rely on but yeah, I Dobbs. Going back 174 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: to Dobbs, which was your initial question. I mean, that's 175 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: the one thing, you know, and I kind of I 176 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: kind of ripped him a little earlier for the not 177 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: making the place through the air, but you know, with 178 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: his legs, he is willing to do whatever it takes. 179 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: And that's the second kind of angry run into the 180 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: end zone that we've seen from him, and now he's 181 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: got I believe it's more than any other in the 182 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: league as far as runs of twenty yards or more. 183 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: I believe it was the staff that I saw where 184 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: he's got five or six of those this season, and 185 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: I think that's that individual effort, and that really just 186 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: him kind of taking the moment on his back and 187 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: doing what he can to get in the end zone. 188 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: And you gotta love that. 189 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Dobbs was a second leading rusher for the Cardinals in 190 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: their game Sunday, just behind rookie running back Amari de Mercado. 191 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: Second straight week without starting running back James Connor, who 192 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: was on ir with a knee injury. Second straight week 193 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: with a running backs by committee approach, However, it looked 194 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: very different last week. De Mercado didn't get a lot 195 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: of snaps. It was heavy on Damian Williams and Keante Ingram. 196 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: Different story this week. De Mercado, with fifty eight rushing 197 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: yards on thirteen carries, also had some yardage in the air. 198 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: He stepped up as you're starting running back. 199 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: Yes, he did. And the fact that Amri de Mercado 200 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 4: had that undrafted rookie mindset. He spoke when after the 201 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: Bengals game where he had that touchdown, we talked about it. 202 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: He said, how it's that next place mentality, that next 203 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: man up, that next game mentality, to go to his 204 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 4: hometown in Los Angeles and Inglewood and not be able 205 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: to put up the numbers that I think he would 206 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: have wanted to see. And Johnathan again and said that 207 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: they're going to dive you up the numbers a little 208 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 4: bit differently for this one to see a complete one 209 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: point eighty. With this one, Damie Williams only gets the 210 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: one attempt for two yards on the ground after having 211 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: eight rushes for thirty plus yards last week. To see 212 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: Amari come in step up, he played really well. 213 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 3: I thought I thought it was the person I was 214 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: playing in fantasy had Ingram in there, probably because they 215 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: got faked out last week. The storyline was Demarcado was 216 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: getting picked up, uh, and so it was dem Occado 217 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: getting all the touches. 218 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: So just throwing everyone off. 219 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, the coaching staff knows what they're doing and 220 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 3: that they obviously had a plan for Ingram to have 221 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: success last week and have the reasons for that. They 222 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: moved to de Mercado this week and he did really well. Also, 223 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: I loved the call on third and seven late in 224 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: that game. That was a big play where he got 225 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: twelve yards. Unfortunately, again they could not continue that drive, 226 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: but you got I like what you're seeing from Amri 227 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: de Mercado, a lot of heart and they again we 228 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: cannot reiterate enough though, how much they are really missing 229 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: James Connor. And I think that is yet another reason 230 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: why the passing game is broken, Danny. It's just it's 231 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: hard when you don't have James Connor in there. 232 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: The production is different. The numbers might look similar enough 233 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: without Connor, however, the production has definitely fallen off with 234 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: his absence. Stea Mercado is the best blocker in that 235 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: running backs room, and when you have an offensive line 236 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: that was entering the game with some adversity that came 237 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: into play as well. My problem with the run game 238 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: is that you're leading rusher Sunday running back of Mario 239 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: de Mercado, quarterback Josh Dobbs, wide receiver ron Dale Moore. 240 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: That's not how it should look. You need production throughout 241 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: every running back that is out there on the field. 242 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've talked about in the beginning half of the season, 243 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: James Connor was getting all the rushes and any time 244 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: Keante or a Mario would get into the game, they 245 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: would not be able to get any positive yardage. And 246 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: the trend continues to go. And I'm not sure what 247 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: the falloff is once you have the back of running 248 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 4: backs come in because whoever has been taking most of 249 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: the snaps, they've been getting most of the yards. Obviously, 250 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: that's how it's supposed to work out. But to see 251 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 4: Damian Williams go from the type of success he had 252 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: last week to only one rush for two yards. As 253 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 4: I previously mentioned, it's confusing because he has the hot hand. 254 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: He came into it with that momentum, similar to similar 255 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: to the Bengals game, Amari had the hot hand. He did 256 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 4: not get much in the Los Angeles game, Damian Williams 257 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: went off. Damian Williams did not getting much in this game, 258 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: Amari went off. So that running back by committee, I understand, 259 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: is a good philosophy, but it's selective running back by 260 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: committee because it's whose number is going to be called 261 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 4: for that game. You have the ability to rush with 262 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 4: whoever you want. But the backups have not been able 263 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: to get much yards going overall. 264 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: Not enough production by Arizona's offense, just five for fifteen 265 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: on third down, three points off three turnovers. Let's take 266 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: a look at how the Cardinals defense performed, because they 267 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: took care of business through two turnovers plus that one 268 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: on special teams, and just held Seattle to only three 269 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: points despite two straight red zone trips. Jody the big 270 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: talking point, safety Buddha Baker making his return missing five 271 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: games with a hamstring injury. Where was Baker's presence most 272 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: evident in the Cardinals defensive performance? 273 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know a lot of places throughout 274 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 3: this game. Danny just providing some stability, providing the veteran presence. 275 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: We saw him in coverage at times, some good, some 276 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 3: not so good, but you know. 277 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: That's part for the course. In the NFL. 278 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: I think though, you know, he was he looked good, 279 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: He looked like he was ready physically to go. I 280 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: think Buddha's always mentally ready to go, and it's gotta 281 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: be nice for these young guys to have him. You know, 282 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: It's one thing for him to be on the sideline, 283 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: it's another thing for him to be in the game 284 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: and sharing his insights. He's been in all these stadiums, 285 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: he's been against all of these teams, especially a team 286 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 3: like Seattle in the NFC West, that he. 287 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: Can share a lot of insights on these guys. 288 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: But I think it really was as much as the 289 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: storyline was Buddha coming back, it was the youngsters as well. 290 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: And you saw a guy like Starling Thomas I thought 291 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: was pretty impressive to me. And then we saw Garrett 292 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: Williams have the interception and play pretty well and play physically. 293 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: You know. 294 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: I think going forward, you continue to see Granted its 295 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 3: injuries and we saw Antonio Hamilton was all at control. 296 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: Clark was out, so again precipitated by injury, but shaking 297 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: things up and trying to see what you have on 298 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: this roster, because you know, you know you have Buddha Baker. 299 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: You know you have Jalen Thompson when he comes back. 300 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: You have to figure out, you know, what other guys 301 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: are going to contribute. 302 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: We didn't see Kimon Wallace again. 303 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: That continues to be that shaking up by the coaching 304 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: staff to try to figure out exactly who's going to 305 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: contribute back there. 306 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: To one point about Buddha Seattle is the game that 307 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: he's always going to circle on the calendar. He's the 308 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: he's the hometown kid there and when he when he 309 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: was placed on IR, that game was in jeopardy and 310 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: he did everything he could. It was about a six 311 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: to eight lee recovery. He got back in four and 312 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 4: a half five weeks and he was able to play 313 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,359 Speaker 4: in this game. I think what Buddha Baker brings a 314 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 4: much as he had the six tackles the one TfL 315 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: was tied for Andre Shascheri for leading the team in tackles. 316 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 4: It's the ability to just have an opposing offense circle 317 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 4: him on there on the field when you're watching tape. 318 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon said to us during training camp, Buddha Baker 319 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: has the ability to make opposing coaches say who the 320 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: pause for two seconds is that guy, and that's the 321 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: ability that Buddha Baker brings to the table and to 322 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: it was definitely something that Gino Smith had to be 323 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: aware of. In the backfield. 324 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker is built different. There's a reason defensive coordinator 325 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: Nick Ralis earlier in the week called Baker the eliminator. 326 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Having him on the field, his technique, how much ground 327 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: he covers, really affects in a positive manner the rest 328 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: of the defense. 329 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: Baker is also built different. 330 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: When I was on the sideline pregame, it was about 331 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: fifty three degrees, no sun shining. Everybody on the field 332 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: was in pants and a sweatshirt. I was wearing two jackets. 333 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: Baker was warming up in shorts, just shorts. 334 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Truly built too. Like I said, he's used to that weather. 335 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, Buddha, I think when he gets at adrenaline going, 336 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: he's not like the rest of us that needs some layers. 337 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: Chicago, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, all in the latter half of the season, 338 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: that's when I want to see how I mean. I know, 339 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: Buddha Baker's built different, but if you could do that, 340 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: then then man, you're really built different. 341 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: Also a great performance by Ricky cornerback Garrett Williams, making 342 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: his season debut after tearing is ACL roughly a year ago. 343 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: Williams became the first Cardinals rookie to have an interception 344 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: in his first career game since Hall of Fame cornerback 345 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: in the Is Williams back in the season opener against 346 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: the Rams in nineteen ninety one. Zach, what relief did 347 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Williams provide in the secondary? 348 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: I think it was also just a breath of fresh air, 349 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: having a new face go out there, somebody that has 350 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: had that fire and that desire to want to go 351 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: out there and play football. He did well the stats, 352 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the interception is the key thing that 353 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: stands out. The two tackles are are only that they're 354 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: just the two tackles, but knowing that it was somebody 355 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: that has fresh legs under them, it has the ability 356 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: and the fire in their gut to want to play. 357 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: That's something Gannon has repeatedly said he wants people that 358 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: had that look in their eyes, and Garrett Williams has 359 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: come to the table with that look in his eyes, 360 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: and he stepped up and to get that first interception 361 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: out of the way. I know he spoke about that 362 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: postgame in the media scrum, he said, to get that 363 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: out of the way is huge. Now it's a matter 364 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: of letting the games slow down. He already said on 365 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: the radio. It slowed down from the first half to 366 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: the second half. As these games continue to progress, the 367 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: game is going to continue to slow down, and we're 368 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: going to see Garrett Williams hopefully evolved to being a 369 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: star starting quarterback. 370 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: They picked him for a reason and they knew he'd 371 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: have to rehab the injury and it would take some 372 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: time and to see him come out and have not 373 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: only that fire, but just see that talent, because again, 374 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: this is a team that you when you draft, you 375 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: draft on character and talent and you see that come together. 376 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: I think that's what we're going to see from Garrett Williams, 377 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: and he should be a great addition as far as 378 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: getting that experience this year and then growing into a 379 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: player that can really count on. 380 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: Williams said he didn't feel like there was much of 381 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: a learning curve, just that speed, which he said was 382 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: very different than the speed of practice. Cardinals held scoreless 383 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: in the second half. Jody there were some opportunities, however, 384 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: unable to take advantage of it. Take us back to 385 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: that fake punt in the fourth quarter. 386 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there were a lot of turning points 387 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: Stanny that were offensive inefficiency, right, you make and that's 388 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 3: why you know your word to start the show was frustrating. 389 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: I think we all felt the frustration. 390 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: That if you had just made a couple of plays, 391 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: you could have scored, you could have continued to drive. 392 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: And so when you go down, when you look at 393 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: the fake punt, I think it's clear that the element 394 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: of surprise, which was I think exactly what the coaching 395 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: staff was banking on, was gone. It was gone once 396 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 3: the punter moved out to the left and quickly then 397 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: you saw Clayton Tune enter the game, which we've all 398 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: been excited to see me through the ball for four 399 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 3: yards to Michael Wilson. But there were a couple of 400 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: Seattle defenders right there who had really sniffed that out, 401 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: and unfortunately, Look, I'll just say this right now, I'm 402 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: hesitant to question Jeff Rodgers because he does a terrific job. 403 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: We've seen it time after time, year after year. A 404 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: guy that I think will be a head coach in 405 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: this league at some point. But his special teams, the 406 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 3: design of the plays. All of this is usually spot on. 407 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: So I don't know exactly what was supposed to happen. 408 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm guessing. I won't even get. 409 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: But obviously it was clear. I know Michael Wilson said, 410 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: maybe he wasn't the first read there, or maybe they thought, 411 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: if you have that element of surprise, does he run 412 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: four or five yards? 413 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: Does he run twenty yards? That is another option. 414 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: But I can't go through all the different permutations of 415 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: maybe what was supposed to happen there. I think a 416 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 3: few of them are pretty clear, but it's clear didn't 417 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: work out. Why is that one turning point? It's one 418 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: of many turning points, really. I also look at the 419 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: fact that the bad snap set you back after some 420 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: momentum plays you had them training. I mentioned the hurdle 421 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: and all the excitement there, which, by the way, I 422 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: loved how James Connor was pretty excited to, you know, 423 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: hit Trey McBride on the helmet when he came over 424 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: a They liked those either stiff hurdle, big boy a 425 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: big boy play right where you you either run through 426 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: someone or McBride jumping over someone. So you know, they 427 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: had that momentum going, then the bad snap takes you back, 428 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: and then they gained yardage on the next two plays, 429 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: but then you end up missing a field goal. You know, 430 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: just too many plays that didn't work out. And I 431 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: like the thought of the fake punt obviously, just to 432 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 3: try to try to do something, but you know, they 433 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: couldn't execute it, and it was a zero for three 434 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: on fourth down, which again severy sometimes on fourth down 435 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: hard to convert, but especially fourth and longer. You'd like 436 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: to see them be able to fourth and short, be 437 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: able to run run the ball. You have to be 438 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: in fourth and manageable. So just didn't work out yesterday. 439 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: I liked the idea of going forward on fourth down, 440 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 4: but on that type of fake punt, Seattle sniffed that 441 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 4: out from the jump. Once once Blake Giligan went to 442 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: the left side of the field, they already had everybody 443 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: lined up ready to go, and when Clinton Tune swung 444 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 4: the rock, not a single player was beyond the So 445 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 4: at that point, no matter what it is, you're not 446 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 4: getting the first down. So when you go into it 447 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: already like that, obviously hindsight's twenty twenty, I would have said, 448 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 4: called the time out, But then again, I just saw 449 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 4: the Cardinals not converted, so obviously I'm gonna say that. 450 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: But I think in those type of moments, you want 451 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: to see Clayton tune. You want to add that element 452 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 4: of surprise, bring Clayton tune in. That's something that's definitely different. 453 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 4: With that being said, though, you have to be mindful 454 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: of knowing that you are driving down the field. You 455 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 4: need any opportunity you could get. A fake punt could 456 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: definitely change the momentum, but it could also really hurt you, 457 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: and in this case, it really hurt the Cardinals. 458 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals gained four yards on that play. Still five short 459 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Seattle would score what would end up being the final 460 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: field goal for a twenty to ten final score on 461 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: the following drive. Let's take out the whiteboards. Time to 462 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: have some fun. After talking about this performance, we're gonna 463 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: go into our song birds segment. Take a song that 464 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: represents how you felt either watching the game or on 465 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: this Monday morning. 466 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna go another or loophole or needs 467 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 3: approval here, but Zach said it was a proval. It's 468 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: not so much the title as a lyric of this song. 469 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: So the I don't know how to work a pen either, 470 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: So this is great. It's going really well, Zach. You're 471 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 2: finished first, all right. 472 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: So I figured with my entire social media field, my 473 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 4: entire social media feed was filled with Taylor Swift yesterday 474 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: because of Travis Kelcey and a stack graphic. So I 475 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: was looking at depressing Taylor Swift songs. I decided not 476 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 4: to go with any of them. Instead, I went down 477 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: to the Seattle route and I went with Macklemore's over It 478 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 4: because I think Macklemore's a Seattle native. He's a big 479 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: Seattle fan. I'm really over with how this second with 480 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 4: how the second half has gone for the Arizona Cardinals 481 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: week after week after week after week after week after week. 482 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 4: That's the sixth that we've had so far. It's been 483 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: just repeatedly, that second half has hurt you. One hundred 484 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: and one to thirty in that second half, the score total. 485 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: The offense is not able to get anything going once 486 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: they leave the locker room. In the second half. The 487 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: defense kept the car was in this game this past week, 488 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 4: but obviously it still was not enough. You already are 489 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 4: down and out. I just think that it's a very 490 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: frustrating feeling. To get back to the word you used 491 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: to start off the show, it's frustrating. This team has 492 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: to figure out a way to turn it around, because 493 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: you still can turn it around. And that's where the 494 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: optimism kind of comes in, knowing that you are in 495 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: every game, but this is the one game where you 496 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: allowed yourself to really lose this one. You let this 497 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: game get too far out of hand. 498 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: Jody your song, Okay, so follow me here. It's going 499 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 3: to take a moment here. Opposites at Tract, which is 500 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: by Paula Abduel. By the way, loved her back in 501 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: the day, but it was the if you're wondering where 502 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: I'm going with this, the one of the lyrics is 503 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 3: two steps forward, two steps back, and unfortunately, again to 504 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: your point, Danny, when you open the show with saying 505 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: it looked like week one, I just feel like they've 506 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: made some strides on offense. And so that's what was 507 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: dancing in my head was the you know, the song 508 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: and the lyrics. But yeah, I know the title is like, 509 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: whoa where is that coming from? I really don't two 510 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: step full over, two steps back? 511 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, opposite. Okay, she was a great dancer to Paul, 512 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: better than exactly that. 513 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 4: I like to think I did pretty good so far 514 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: in morning scramble. I have so far a morning scramble 515 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 4: I have saying I have now danced. Come on, give 516 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: me some more stuff hashtag morning scramble. Give me something 517 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 4: to do. 518 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: You are a balanced offense right there? You got it 519 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: all going. What happens? 520 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: You use the legs, you use the vocal cords, the 521 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: arms a little bit. Dan, you just take it away? 522 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: God? How about how about I take it away from that? 523 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: I also picked a song based off one lyric and 524 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: I went with rich Flex by Drake and twenty one 525 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Savage simply for the lyric of twenty one Can you 526 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: do about? 527 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: This is for you? 528 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: Garrett Williams incredible performance, incredible debut in his career. Just 529 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: the way that he was flying all over the field, 530 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: the corner back was getting more of those reps in 531 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: the slot corner position. That incredible interception just outside the 532 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: end zoned stop a touchdown. Very impressive with what we 533 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: saw from the rookie cornerback and also hearing from him 534 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: postgame that he's happy to have that interception out of 535 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: the way. Already looking ahead for improvements that he can 536 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: still make. 537 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: He's one of those cornerbacks as not satisfied. He could 538 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: have been a first round pick if he did not 539 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 4: get injured at Syracuse. Now he's coming into this with 540 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 4: that chip on his shoulder. Has been eager to play 541 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: and get to have the type of performance in their debut. 542 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 4: A lot of players dream of having a debut like 543 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: Garrett Williams have. I think he would have hoped to 544 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: have come away with the win as well, But kudos 545 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 4: to number twenty one. 546 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about what everybody's been wanting us to talk about, Charlie. 547 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: The second thing everybody wants us to talk about Zach. 548 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: Quarterback Kyler Murray will he be making his return to 549 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: the field Sunday at State Farm Stadium against the Baltimore Ravens. 550 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: Murray has been designated to return. He started practicing last 551 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: week for the first time coming off that ACL injury 552 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: last December. Cardinals have twenty one days to activate Murray 553 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: to the final fifty three man roster, which in turn 554 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: and can have him active on game days. Jody realistic 555 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: that Murray can play Sunday. 556 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: I think it's realistic. I think certainly he could play. 557 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 3: Do I think he will play. 558 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: I don't. 559 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: I think it is more likely to happen at Cleveland 560 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 3: or home against Atlanta. It is home against Atlanta, correct, 561 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: And I know there have been some media reports pointing 562 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 3: more to Atlanta. I honestly think, Look, this is the NFL. 563 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: You got to play anywhere anybody. So I think if 564 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: he's ready to go, he'll go. Now this week, Danny, 565 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 3: you know, again, after just one week of practice, I 566 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: think maybe two might be better. I know we looked 567 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 3: pretty good out there. Passes were zipping around the field, 568 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: and I think it's exciting. And you're right, no offense, 569 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: Zach to your singing and you're dancing. But people do 570 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 3: want to talk about Kyler Murray. 571 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: I want to talk about dak after watch. 572 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: They might, they might, but you know, Tyler is that 573 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: lightning rod. Okay. 574 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 3: He's a guy that has skills and talents that very 575 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: few quarterbacks in the league currently have, and in some 576 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: ways none of them have exactly what Kyler can bring. 577 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: And so I think we're all excited to see that 578 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: in this offense. We're excited to see if he can, 579 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: you know, make some of those plays that just have 580 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: been a little bit off right and kind of connect 581 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: everyone on this offense bring it together. And we've seen 582 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 3: that years past at times, but then last year in particular, 583 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: before the injury, you know, we wondered where did it go? 584 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: Why is it not happening? 585 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 3: But this is an entirely new coaching staff, and so 586 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: we want to see this all meshed together. So I'm 587 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: gonna go with one of those other two games. I'm 588 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: not sure. I think we're getting excited though. It's kind 589 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: of like, Okay, Christmas is coming? Is it holiday time? 590 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: Is Kyler coming back? And again, no disrest. Josh Dobbs 591 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: has given his heart and his soul to this team 592 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: and he's done a fantastic job. While we are all 593 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 3: waiting for Kyler to come back, I might throw a 594 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: monkey wrench in this conversation and say, maybe do you 595 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: guys expect to see Clayton tune at all? Maybe I'll 596 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: throw that in. Okay, I would hope, So maybe for net, 597 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: I mean there's been some talk. I'll just throw it 598 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 3: out there again, talk about do you put him out 599 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 3: there next week? 600 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 2: If it's not gonna be Kyler? You know, I don't know. 601 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: Again, he was in there on the one play because 602 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: it was a fake punt, a trick play essentially. I 603 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 3: think they have a plan for him as well, but 604 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: it all really is according to Maybe it has to 605 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: do with how practice goes, guys. Maybe it's really I 606 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 3: don't know that the coaches have their minds made up 607 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: on this. 608 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they do or don't. The reason 609 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 4: why I said no so abruptly about Clayton Tune is 610 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: because I feel like jonathangan is the type of person, 611 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 4: the type of head coach that won't let his team 612 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 4: feel like that they gave up. In a sense, if 613 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: you put down Josh Dobbs and you bring up Quay 614 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 4: and Tune, I feel like you're basically saying we're giving 615 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 4: up till Kyler gets back. And I don't feel like 616 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: that's the type of guy and the type of head 617 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 4: coach that Jonathan Gannon is. Is it realistic for Kyler 618 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 4: to get back and play next week? It is realistic, 619 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 4: It's a possibility. Hollywood Brown's post game they're really close, 620 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 4: they're really close friends, not postgame during practice week and said, 621 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: how you know, Kyler's got something to prove and he's 622 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 4: able to prove that he is still one of the 623 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: best quarterbacks that you talked about in the NFL, the 624 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: type of skill set that he has. I do think 625 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: because the coaching staff recognizes the type of valuable piece 626 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 4: that they have in Kyler Murray, they're going to go 627 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 4: into it. It's trying to slow play him into this 628 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: kind of how Izzy Wolford has talked about it, saying 629 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: that they're gonna kind of slowly put him into this. 630 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like it's going to be 631 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 4: the game against Atlanta, like most signs are pointing towards, 632 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 4: because you bring it back home, you bring it back 633 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 4: in his environment that he's ready to play in, and 634 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 4: in this case, you give him that three weeks of 635 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 4: practicing as well. 636 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: I will probably wear the title as optimist. I think 637 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: there is a good chance we see Kyler Murray take 638 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: the field Sunday at State Farm Stadium against Baltimore this week. 639 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: Like Bold Like Kyler Murray is a different type of competitor. 640 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: We know that by now, and we know how smart 641 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: he is. He has been in the film room, he's 642 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: been watching practice. He has a good grasp on this scheme. 643 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: He's been talking with Offensive Corney or Drew Petzing about 644 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: plays he likes and doesn't like. Getting out there at 645 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: practice and physically going through them is a different story. However, 646 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: I think it's most realistic that regardless of when Kyler 647 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Murray returns to the field, we will see him ease 648 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: into some of those new aspects that he hasn't really 649 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: had to deal with a lot in his career playing 650 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: under center, more more play action. I think if you're 651 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: already going to ease those parts of this offense in 652 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray is physically and mentally feeling ready to play, 653 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't see why you'd hold him out. We'll see 654 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: who's right, if it's me or if it's Jody or 655 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: Zach moving forward, whoever it is. Do they shock the world? 656 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: No one expected them to beat the Cowboys after with 657 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: the Ravens did this past Sunday? 658 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: No one's gonna expect this. Do they shock the world again? 659 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: Great to make songbirds interesting? 660 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely destroyed the lines. This week, Cardinals hosts the Ravens 661 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: Sunday at State Farm Stadium. It's a one twenty five kickoff. 662 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: We'll have more coverage on Adycardinals dot Com all week 663 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: long leading up to that matchup for Jody Jackson and 664 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: Zach Gershman. I'm Jaysuri. Thanks so much for joining us 665 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: here on Morning Scramble. We'll get you all right here 666 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: next week, ten am.