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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and getting and he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: With cities across the US bracing for sweeping deportation raids

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Speaker 3: as promised by President elect Trump during his campaign, his

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Speaker 3: administration says it's rethinking where to launch the large scale crackdowns,

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Speaker 3: sources initially telling ABC News the raids would begin right

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Speaker 3: after the inauguration, likely in Chicago and then other big

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Speaker 3: sanctuary cities. The operations involving high priority criminal targets that

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Speaker 3: DHS teams have been.

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Speaker 2: Investigating for months.

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Speaker 3: In Mexico, immigration officials ramping up sheltered capacity, bracing for

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Speaker 3: an influx of deepoort teas that could create chaos.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh jeez, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mexico. That'd be horrible if you had chaos

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Speaker 1: having a bunch of criminals return to your country. I

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Speaker 1: guess that's something I'm supposed to be concerned about. Are

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Speaker 1: you freaking kidding me? This is part of the revolution

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Speaker 1: of common sense that begins at noon today. Yeah, Trump's

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Speaker 1: calling it, and this actually is a revolution of common sense.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get to some of the polling the New

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Speaker 1: York Times right over the weekend around the immigration stuff.

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Speaker 1: Ninety percent of Americans think we should return illegal criminals

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Speaker 1: ninety percent.

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Speaker 2: It's not controversial.

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Speaker 4: Ah oh no, no, it's as close to unanimous as

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Speaker 4: you can get on any question. Would you like to

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Speaker 4: be jabbed in the eye? Ten percent of Americans and say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that sounds great. This is absolutely functionally unanimous. Ship the

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Speaker 4: criminals out right, and they're gonna start that like immediately.

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Speaker 4: And as you heard in that ABC ree there, the

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Speaker 4: Justice Department has been working on the paperwork in this

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Speaker 4: stuff for a long time, so they know they've got

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Speaker 4: these people identified, they know what they did. It was

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Speaker 4: only the Biden policies that kept it well. And you're

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Speaker 4: stupid allowing cities and states to be sanctuaries. Just didn't

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Speaker 4: send it a revolution of common sense. And as we know, Jack,

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Speaker 4: things are three point four percent or three point four

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Speaker 4: times more popular if they spell out a word, and

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Speaker 4: Revolution of common sense spells out rocks.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, it does rocks. Rocks, That's what I say.

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Speaker 2: Huh cool, all right, made my point.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, between being out six hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: criminals and renaming the gulf.

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Speaker 2: It's a good day. Yes, it's gonna walk around and.

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Speaker 1: Saying, hey, you know what I do for vacation this summer.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Gulf of Is it America? Let's

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Speaker 1: go to the Gulf of America in the summer. See

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Speaker 4: I love you, I love it. Why not, it's our golf. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: President of Mexico with her wives cracking. We'll show her.

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Speaker 2: Huh, We'll rename the golf. And it's not even their golf.

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Speaker 2: They have a female president, Yes they do. Wow. Yes,

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Speaker 2: isn't that funny? Ah?

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of funny, how about this bit of inauguration

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Speaker 4: trip Michael, do we have like hail to the chief

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Speaker 4: or something that we can know? There you go, this

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Speaker 4: inauguration trivia. When Andrew Johnson piece of Crap, was inaugurated

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Speaker 4: as vice president in eighteen sixty five, he was completely drunk.

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Speaker 4: He'd been suffering from typhoid fever at the time and

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Speaker 4: purportedly drank whiskey to numb the pain, except he drank.

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Speaker 2: A little too much and ended up slurring through his oaths.

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Speaker 4: In fact, a contemporary newspaper account of the time jack

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna read it to you. The headline is the

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Speaker 4: Inaugural humiliation. Andrew Johnson, the Vice President elect, presented himself

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Speaker 4: drunk at the great Inauguration ceremony and the presence of

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Speaker 4: the assembled Executive and Judicial Departments, blah blah blah, the representatives.

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Speaker 2: Of the people. Before that imposing.

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Speaker 4: Concourse, he bellowed for half an hour, the idiotic babble

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Speaker 1: Oh, that should have happened in the area the era

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's some good writing.

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Speaker 4: He dragged its proudest ceremony into the slough is the

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Speaker 4: slew of his degradation, and turned it to shame and mortification. Man,

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Speaker 4: you hate to drag his speech into the old sod

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Speaker 2: Trump needs to avoid that today, Jackie.

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Speaker 1: In my estimation, no kidding, Trump becomes president at noon today.

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Speaker 1: I assume you know that, and Joe Biden is running

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Speaker 1: need to discuss that a little bit later. Some of

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Speaker 1: the executive orders, as we said, are around immigration. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to people's opinions on that later this hour. Great

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Speaker 1: article from the New York Times basically pointing out, hey,

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Speaker 1: That's probably why. One it's funny that they're finally getting

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Speaker 4: Wow, what am I supposed to say thank you? Or

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Speaker 2: Or I don't know, ivey, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Well, the bigfoot media are committing a medium speed suicide,

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Speaker 4: and I say let them.

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Speaker 1: I had a number of teenagers in my home over

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Speaker 2: They noticed right away because that's like.

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Speaker 1: The first thing they do is go to their phone

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Speaker 2: Now, my son doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Have TikTok, and he constantly complains that his friends do.

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Speaker 1: But I became aware that his friends are super into it,

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Speaker 1: at night. He goes to sleep scrolling through TikTok until

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Speaker 1: he falls and then he wakes up. His phone is

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Speaker 4: Wow, And that interesting, which is you know, if you

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Speaker 4: take him take that away. Obviously that's a bit of

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Speaker 1: And between them and conversations with my nieces who are

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Speaker 1: knowledge slash concern about the fact that the communist Chinese

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Speaker 4: At that age, or they reject the notion as you

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Speaker 4: I think I know what Trump is doing. He has

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Speaker 4: said he would issue an executive order to reinstate TikTok

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Speaker 4: for the ninety days that the law gives it. I

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Speaker 4: think if there is a a negotiation for the sale

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Speaker 4: it's not clear at all whether Trump can, you know,

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Speaker 4: bring it back to life for ninety days. Is that constitutional?

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Speaker 2: Not constitutional or illegal.

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Speaker 4: It's it's not legal because Congress passed the law and

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Speaker 4: want that, no matter how much you like Trump or not.

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Speaker 1: Especially votes that went fifty zero coming out of the

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Speaker 1: they were nine to nothing. You don't want presidents to

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Speaker 1: Trump is doing. Number One, he made a couple of

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Speaker 1: comics before. What's that He's a populist people. There's one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy million people that love TikTok. He's getting credit.

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Speaker 1: It was on the TikTok TikTok's own screenshot that they

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Speaker 1: basically gave Donald Trump the credit for it. Coming back

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Speaker 1: on that's what he's doing here, popular with young people.

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping it's that Trump fancies himself the greatest deal

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Speaker 4: maker on earth, and he thinks he can work out

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Speaker 4: satisfies the law and TikTok TikTok users. If that is

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Speaker 4: simply his somewhat egotistical point of view, then I say

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Speaker 4: let him try. It's fine. We'll be rid of it

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Speaker 4: Trump is saying as he seemed to be hitting, look,

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Speaker 4: it helped get me elected. I'm big on TikTok. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's a tool of espionage and propaganda by our most

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Speaker 4: bitter enemy on earth. But if it helps me, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna leave it that. I can't take that.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Well, and.

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Speaker 4: Trump himself was the guy who hammered away to get

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Speaker 4: TikTok banned his first term.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got this going for good. Fun fact Charles C. W.

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Speaker 1: Cook tweeted out fun fact after viewing classified material about

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Speaker 1: the Communist Chinese Party's influence on TikTok. The bill to

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Speaker 2: It was unanimous. That's how it was.

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Speaker 4: As we shared with you last week, Peter Schweitzer doing

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Speaker 4: some great writing if you look at those quotes, some classified,

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Speaker 4: They love TikTok and they said specifically why because it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this tweet continues.

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Speaker 1: Banning a CCP espionage and propaganda app was obviously the

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Speaker 2: For a minute, it shouldn't right.

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Speaker 1: I had one more thought on that blah blah blah

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Speaker 4: TikTok, because it's controlled by the communist Chinese who are

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Speaker 4: desperate to have it continue, TikTok is going to be

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Speaker 4: just absolutely a wash in flattery of Donald Trump. Now, Oh,

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Speaker 4: and effort to manipulate his ego, and I just I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: We'll continue to call it the way we see it

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Speaker 4: around here. If when Trump's right, we're going to say

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Speaker 4: he's right. When he's wrong, we're going to say he's wrong.

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Speaker 4: If that doesn't satisfy, ye, well let us part his friends.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump just wants to make sure if TikTok

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not comfortable with that either, but I get

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Speaker 1: So that's where we are on that. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: hard for me to get into the whole. TikTok gets

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Speaker 1: I don't have TikTok. I've never been on it. Seeing

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Speaker 2: do you know what code switching is? You can google.

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Speaker 4: It has to do with patterns of speech. I need

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Speaker 2: All right, No it doesn't. You're an idiot. Be quiet.

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Speaker 4: So and the first psychologist actually says, hey, look, it's

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Speaker 4: Great for your mental health Number one, give back, give

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Speaker 2: Then they still have needles. Anyway, you'll feel humbled.

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Speaker 4: This mountain is going to be there forever and ever

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Speaker 2: Everything passes. Eventually you'll be okay.

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Speaker 4: Forest bathing, spend five minutes journaling, Go see your performance,

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Speaker 4: Do something kind, Smile at other people, dance it out,

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Speaker 2: This was another one of my favorite.

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Speaker 4: It might seem counterintuitive, but if you need to shed

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Speaker 2: Find other people to cry with.

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Speaker 1: I'll call some of my friends, say can I cry

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Speaker 2: See how we stop acting like a child? Huh Armstrap

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Speaker 1: A little montage from Trump's big rally yesterday, and.

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Speaker 2: By a good feeling. We're like winning, don't we in Washington,

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Speaker 3: We have twenty hours until our long national nightmare is over.

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Speaker 2: We're almost there.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow, everybody in this very large arena will be very happy.

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Speaker 4: With my decision on the Jay six hostages.

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Speaker 1: We will not be invaded, we will not be occupied,

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Speaker 2: We will be a free and proud.

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Speaker 2: At twelve o'clock.

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Speaker 1: As the actual Village People, whoever's left of the Village

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Speaker 2: Boy, that is exciting.

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Speaker 4: It's so sad that only Paul McCartney and Ringo Star

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Speaker 1: The important people are filing into the Capitol because of

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Speaker 1: because they're going to get out of the limo here soon.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to do some play by play

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 2: But go ahead.

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Speaker 1: The New York Times got into the immigration issue and

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Speaker 1: pointing out that, hey, Trump's policies are really popular on

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Speaker 1: some of this stuff. For instance, do you support or

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Speaker 1: oppose he to the following deporting immigrants who are here

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Speaker 1: illegally and have criminal records? Eighty seven percent? So damn

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Speaker 1: near ninety percent of Americans want to boot out illegals

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Speaker 1: who are criminals. No freaking kidding. Practically everybody agrees with that,

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Speaker 1: except for Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, the state of

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Speaker 1: California governor knew some kambala hairs. But you people are

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Speaker 1: so on the wrong side of history. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you could be so blind to how wrong you are.

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Speaker 4: Well, and it's a testament to what effective bullies they

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Speaker 4: are that if you that unpopular is the law of

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Speaker 4: a number of major cities and d I mean gnarrhea

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Speaker 4: is more popular than the notion of keeping criminal illegal

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Speaker 4: aliens in the country, and yet it endures.

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Speaker 1: Deporting immigrants who are here illegally and arrived over the

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Speaker 1: last four years. So he came in during Biden's term.

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Speaker 1: You're here illegally. Sixty three percent of Americans want them booted.

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Speaker 1: Almost two thirds of Americans.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, having heard the first question, includes the law abiding Yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: you came in illegally.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll get to that. Deporting all immigrants who are

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Speaker 1: here illegally. So that's going back years and years and

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Speaker 1: years and includes the dreamers.

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Speaker 2: What about the dreamers? That includes everybody who's here illegally.

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Speaker 1: The New York Times pulling fifty five percent fifty.

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Speaker 2: Five for two, it's a thirteen point win for boot out.

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Speaker 1: Everybody who's here illegally, I don't care what their story is.

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Speaker 4: Is a popular issue. It's a solid majority. I actually

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Speaker 4: don't think people mean that when you got down to

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Speaker 4: brass hacks, but I think it is an It's a

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Speaker 4: full throated announced pronouncement of what they think about the

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Speaker 4: last four years of immigration policy. They are screaming for reform.

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Speaker 1: Well, what do you think about it?

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Speaker 4: And they don't want for a second to have any

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Speaker 4: sort of moderation mistaken as an endorsement of these policies.

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Speaker 4: It's the classic I'm not going to give you an

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Speaker 4: inch until I see progress.

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Speaker 2: Kick them all out, right.

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Speaker 1: But on that previous number deporting all the people that

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Speaker 1: came in in the last four years, which is almost

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Speaker 1: two thirds, how about this, fifty four percent of Hispanics,

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Speaker 1: a majority of Hispanics say anybody who came here illegally

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Speaker 1: in the last four years, get them out of here.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about that. The

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Speaker 1: way it's portrayed to us through the media versus the reality.

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Speaker 4: Well, right, and it's just so interesting again to watch

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Speaker 4: Peter Baker in the New York Times using those polls

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Speaker 4: to try to send the signal to their subscribers. And

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Speaker 4: this has probably come from the top down. Look, we

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Speaker 4: got to tell you the truth about this stuff. The

494
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Speaker 4: woke mind virus is infected us all. But hey, folks,

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Speaker 4: here's the way Americans actually think about this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Here's one that does not have a majority approval. And

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Speaker 1: here's one where I'm knocking Trump. He is going today

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Speaker 1: sign an executive order or action, and I get him

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Speaker 1: mixed up. One is different than the other. But he's

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Speaker 1: going to sign an executive something ending birthright citizenship. I'm

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Speaker 1: fine with ending birthright citizenship. It's back from slave days.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense that it's applied the way

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Speaker 1: it is today. But the president can't do that. It's

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Speaker 1: in the freaking constitution. But that's only forty one percent

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Speaker 1: approval on that, and I think it's because people don't

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Speaker 1: understand where it came from or what it's for. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's true. Yeah, but he's going to try

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Speaker 1: to do it through executive order. So you got Biden

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Speaker 1: with illegal executive orders out the door. Trump coming in

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Speaker 1: the door with at least one that's clearly unconstitutional, and

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Speaker 1: he has no right even trying.

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Speaker 4: I need to investigate the difference between executive actions and orders.

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Speaker 4: But if the action is simply an announcement to get

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Speaker 4: the discussion started, I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: Good point. Good point. I would have to dig into that.

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Speaker 1: God dang it, what are Trump and Biden talking about

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Speaker 1: in the limo as they head to the Capitol. It's

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Speaker 1: taking them a long time to get there. I just

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Speaker 1: walked from the Capitol from the White House to the Capitol.

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Speaker 1: Actually I rode those little scooters a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Not that far. Are they taking the scenic crowd?

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Speaker 1: Or did Biden need to stop and pick up some

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Speaker 1: pills at the CBS before they I got out a prescription.

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Speaker 2: I'm laid for feeling so good? Boy? Did Granta Garbo

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Speaker 2: have great gams? Jeers Classic?

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Speaker 1: So there were some rumors floating around over the weekend

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Speaker 1: that perhaps they didn't move it in doors because of

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Speaker 1: the cold. Again, I don't quite understand that, because there

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Speaker 1: were a couple of football games over the weekend that

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Speaker 1: were every bit is cold or colder and eighty thousand

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Speaker 1: people willingly stood out there for like five hours.

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Speaker 2: Right, So who makes that call? Capitol police, Trump himself,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Don't know either, But there are some rumors floating around

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Speaker 1: over the weekend that it was the terrorist threat, and

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Speaker 1: you know, they wouldn't necessarily tell us about it, and

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama when he was inaugurated the first time in

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Speaker 1: eight was wearing a bulletproof vest because they thought there

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Speaker 1: was an active terrorist threat happening and we didn't find

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Speaker 1: out about it until like two years later. So that

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Speaker 1: could be true, although I checked in with somebody in

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Speaker 1: the know who would absolutely have access to this knowledge

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Speaker 1: and said, no, no, no sniff of a major terrorist

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Speaker 1: threat outside of the normal. It's just because of the cold.

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Speaker 4: So who knows, Jack, how about a little presidential trivia.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep it brief.

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Speaker 1: You're about to get out of the car. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see this.

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Speaker 4: The Oaths of Office is only thirty five words, and

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Speaker 4: every time I watched the president give it, I'm fightened

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Speaker 4: for them because they give them fairly long phrases to

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Speaker 4: keep back, and I'm so easily distracted.

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Speaker 2: I'm always terrified.

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Speaker 4: When I got married, I was terrified that do you

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Speaker 4: Joe take this woman?

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Speaker 2: Do I Joe take? What was the rest of it?

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Speaker 1: Well? Who who screwed it up? And they had to

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Speaker 1: redo it in the Capitol? Remember that a couple of

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Speaker 1: years back, somebody got the words wrong, and then to

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Speaker 1: make sure it stuck, then.

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Speaker 2: They had Rehnquist.

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Speaker 4: When rehn Quis gave it to Obama, I think you're

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Speaker 4: a second interesting bit of inaugurabal trivia. While presidents are

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Speaker 4: made to place their hands on a book to swear

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Speaker 4: in the.

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Speaker 2: Book, is of their choosing.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's gone with a Bible, except John Quincy Adams.

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Speaker 2: Are the deal art of the deal. That's right. No

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Speaker 2: JQA used his law book.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we got to take a break here pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: But they're getting out of the beast Biden and Trump.

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Speaker 1: What if Trump just gets out and kind of pulls

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Speaker 1: Biden out? Biden is no longer conscious having been in

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Speaker 1: a fist fight like we keep seeing online with those

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Speaker 1: AI fights.

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Speaker 2: I really thought they'd go through McDonald's drive through hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Biden's gonna say to Trump, I'm thinking of pardoning Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Trump's gonna say you already did what.

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Speaker 1: He's got what two hours and twenty minutes to pardon

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Speaker 1: his brother. There's a lot of people wondering if that's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen, Oh, Old James, is that one gonna land?

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Speaker 2: Plausible denial? My boy? Plausible denial?

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Speaker 1: How do you possibly pardon all those other people and

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Speaker 1: not your brother unless he just thinks that's.

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Speaker 4: Too much of an admission of guilt or he's on

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Speaker 4: D's d as well Deaths Store.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we got more on the way. You can text

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Speaker 1: us anytime. What are your thoughts on anything? Four one five,

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Speaker 1: five KFTC.

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Speaker 2: This is a historic day.

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Speaker 5: Finally the guns have fallen, silent relief of people inside

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Speaker 5: guards or we're seeing people already streaming back to what

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Speaker 5: is left of their homes. It's going to be hugely

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Speaker 5: challenging for President Trump's team. This is just phase one.

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Speaker 5: Phase two and three need to see the release of

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Speaker 5: all of the hostages, dead or alive, and the crucial

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Speaker 5: question of what comes next. What does Garza look like?

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Speaker 5: Who governs Garsa? Remember a mass is a military organization,

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Speaker 5: but it was also the government inside Gaza elected democratically,

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Speaker 5: So what replaces them?

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Speaker 1: If we weren't involved in this deal, the deal would

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Speaker 1: have never happened. And it was so ungracious of Biden is.

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Speaker 2: Oh he did it. He didn't do anything. If I

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Speaker 2: didn't do.

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Speaker 1: This, if we didn't get involved, the hostages would never

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Speaker 1: be out. It is not our best moment for it

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Speaker 1: to be so focused upon who gets the credit for what,

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Speaker 1: Especially as watching Mark Alpern's Zoom call on Friday, he

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Speaker 1: was disgusted with the media focusing on and arguing about

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Speaker 1: who gets the most credit for bringing this deal together.

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Speaker 1: That's not the way to get things accomplished.

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Speaker 4: It's almost as if that is their only interest, right, exactly,

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Speaker 4: the day to day bickering of politics as opposed to

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Speaker 4: governments and governance and policy and actual outcomes for actual

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Speaker 4: human beings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and history. It won't matter. It won't matter at all.

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Speaker 1: I thought the coverage of the hostages being freed was weird.

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Speaker 1: In most cases, it was way too happy. I mean, it's,

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Speaker 1: you know, it'd be great to get your loved one

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Speaker 1: back and they're still alive. But let's not pretend that

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Speaker 1: these young women, some attractive twenty year old who was

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Speaker 1: grabbed from a concert hasn't gone through absolute hell for

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Speaker 1: the last year and a half. One woman is missing

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Speaker 1: fingers because they were shot off or something like that

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Speaker 1: when she originally was fighting captors. Remember a woman who

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Speaker 1: was released like a year ago talking about being raped daily.

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Speaker 1: Guy would come in and hit her with the butt

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Speaker 1: of his rifle and raper every day. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: are some really rough stories.

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Speaker 4: Well right, and the coverage was like they just on

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Speaker 4: Olympic medals or something like that. That is entirely a

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Speaker 4: happy occasion, not a not a relief after the grim,

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Speaker 4: in some cases unimaginably grim holding of women and children

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Speaker 4: hostage by in this organization of monsters.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the video of the one of the

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Speaker 1: women being transferred from the Hamas vehicle to the Israeli

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Speaker 1: vehicle there and you had all the Hamas fighters their

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Speaker 1: faces covered, guns, screaming at this woman as she walked

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Speaker 1: ten feet or they moved her ten feet from one

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Speaker 1: car to the other. Freaking monsters, animals. They need to

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Speaker 1: be killed, every single freaking one of them. National Review

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Speaker 1: out with a good piece on how this is just

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Speaker 1: such a horrible deal. Neither president should be trying to

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Speaker 1: take credit for it, because in retrospect it's going to

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Speaker 1: look like a horrible deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The only relief to me is that I expected to

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Speaker 4: fall apart within a week, two weeks tops.

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Speaker 2: There's no idea about those Hamas fighters.

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Speaker 4: No, and the quote unquote deal to get to hostages

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Speaker 4: back at least some of them, God bless their souls,

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Speaker 4: is giving Hamas an excellent opportunity to reconstitute itself so

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Speaker 4: it can continue trying to wipe Israel.

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Speaker 2: Off the map.

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Speaker 1: The inauguration proceedings are getting started. We'll give you play

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Speaker 1: by play on that.

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Speaker 4: Among other things, Armstrong and Getty