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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Can't you believe that you're not gonna take them up

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Speaker 2: What's off the general nation? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is the Big Twelve being preview. I'm stucky with

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Speaker 2: me as always is Colin Wilson ready to argue some

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Speaker 3: Brother potentially our last Big Twelve conference preview and the

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Speaker 3: history of college football. It's a little sad. It's been

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Speaker 3: one of our most fun conferences to bet. The fact

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Speaker 3: that we don't we might not ever get the chance

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Speaker 3: to talk about Kansas football. If they're gonna even gonna

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Speaker 3: win a game, that kind of brings a tear to

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Speaker 3: my eye. So this could be it for the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, depending on where Kansas goes, you could have like

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Speaker 2: Kansas wind totals at like three and a half four

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Speaker 2: and everyone's die. It's the reason most people are tuning

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Speaker 2: in here today. And obviously we're alluding to some of

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelve news swirl about Texas Oklahoma joining the

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Speaker 2: SEC and then what's the fall for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the teams of the conference. We're gonna talk with front

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Speaker 2: of the podcast Brett McMurphy here in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: We'll start there, kind of clear the air and some

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Speaker 2: of that news. Is no better person to talk to,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll jump into profiles for all ten teams,

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Speaker 2: close up with just our favorite win total, future Big

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Speaker 2: Twelve title game prediction, and get out of here. So,

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Speaker 2: without further ado, let's bring in Fred of the pod,

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Speaker 2: mister Brett McMurphy.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable college Football, the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're now joined by friend of the podcast, Brett McMurphy,

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Speaker 2: America's college football insider. You can find him sources sources

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Speaker 2: for days at Brett Underscore McMurphy on Twitter. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're we're doing the Big Twelve preview today and I

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Speaker 2: think that there's some news with the big twelve in

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Speaker 2: the college FOOTBA world. I saw, I've heard. This is

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Speaker 2: why we brought Brett on to kind of catch us

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Speaker 2: up because there might be some news out there. What's

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Speaker 2: going on? Brett?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, glad to have me. Maybe one of these

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Speaker 4: days you'll have me on more than once a year.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: But I enjoyed coming on before the season. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was actually at SEC media days last week in

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Speaker 4: Birmingham and all hell broke loose. Now the big twelves

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Speaker 4: in Flux, Oklahoma and Texas are going to greener pastures,

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Speaker 4: and by greener, I mean more money. How will that

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Speaker 4: impact the rest of the landscape. That's what we're going

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Speaker 4: to find out. Hope I can shed some insight into that.

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Speaker 4: But it is always great to join you guys, and Stucky.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of disappointed. I don't see the Nate Army

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Speaker 4: you go.

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Speaker 2: There you go on, Brett, And I noticed that you

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Speaker 2: got it in there. The little I better be. I

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Speaker 2: that to make sure we get you back on at

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Speaker 2: guess most people have heard that. You know, Texas and

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Speaker 2: timing of that, and I think it's twenty twenty six season.

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Speaker 2: Is that essentially a done deal? Like? Is there no

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Speaker 4: So basically, Stucky, everything you've sat seen now says that

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Speaker 4: However, hopefully you guys are fans of Warren Zevon because

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Speaker 4: I think that will happen if you go back and

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Speaker 4: all these schools had contracts to get where they had

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Speaker 4: one is a little bit different. The Big Twelve could decide,

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Speaker 4: you know what, we don't want the eighty million dollars

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Speaker 4: or whatever it is that you're going to pay to

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Speaker 4: Seinfeld when he returns the jacket and ask him why,

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Speaker 4: and he goes for spite, and I'd like to return.

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Speaker 3: This jacket, certainly, mask why first bite.

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Speaker 4: The Big Twelve may go, you know what, We're going

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Speaker 4: the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: Stucky.

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Speaker 4: The Big twelve, to use the cliche, does not control

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Speaker 4: depends on the Big ten, the ACC and the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 4: And quite simply, if those conferences decide to expand and

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Speaker 4: that's to be seen. That's what all these conferences are

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Speaker 4: talking about right now. They're talking to their television consultants.

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Speaker 4: determine the fate of the Big twelve. But the unknown

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Speaker 4: they say, look, this is a lot of money, we're

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Speaker 3: I mean, I live in the state of Oklahoma, and

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Speaker 3: we've got the president of Oklahoma State coming out and

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Speaker 3: just throwing the Sooners under the bus. Like I thought

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Speaker 3: you were all about the state of Oklahoma. We're here

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Speaker 3: there's a number of teams that have a fallout from this,

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Speaker 3: From a territorial perspective, this manufactured rivalry with LSU is

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Speaker 3: does Texas A and M ultimately fall. They're just going

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Look the vote you know, and I don't

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Speaker 4: you know, the vote may have already occurred by the

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Speaker 4: time you guys post this, but the vote will be fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it'll be unanimous.

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Speaker 4: Texas A and M will change their vote, you know, no,

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Speaker 4: they publicly said they're against it. Look, it's going to

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Speaker 4: for our conference for the next fifty years? I mean, basically,

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Speaker 4: this is a smart move by the SEC.

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Speaker 3: So Texas A and M.

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Speaker 4: I guess they can they can take a little bit

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Speaker 4: of pride in the fact that they can tell recruits. Look,

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Speaker 4: we were in the conference. Texas came crawling to us

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Speaker 4: So that shows you know that we're quote better than Texas.

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Speaker 4: The bottom line is they're going to go start playing again.

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Speaker 4: Whoever wins the games on the field, we'll have the

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Speaker 4: you guys know I'm Oklahoma State. Grab you know this

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Speaker 4: kills me. What's going to happen to my alma mater?

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Speaker 4: I have no idea what's going to happen to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: But on the flip side, I don't blame Oklahoma and Texas.

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Speaker 4: You know, the SEC smart enough to figure out what

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Speaker 4: So as much as I hate it from Alma Mater,

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Speaker 4: I totally understand why OU and Texas did it. It

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Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense, and it positions the SEC

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Speaker 4: which I don't anticipate happening.

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Speaker 3: I think what you're trying to say is that Frank

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Speaker 3: Broyle's in the early nineties had the vision before everybody

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Speaker 3: else to leave the Southwest Conference join the SEC like

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Speaker 3: triple the money, and geographically, it made no sense to

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Speaker 3: And this whole move to the SEC never made any sense,

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Speaker 3: I think that's the thing. Oklahoma State would want to

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Speaker 3: group of five that it's just unbelievable to think of.

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Speaker 4: It's not their option. I mean basically, if again, if

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma State, you know it's not And I just want

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Speaker 4: I want to say one thing. It's not it is,

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Speaker 4: but it is an Oklahoma State's fault for being proactive.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can be proactive. You could send the

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma and Texas are obviously a better product. They they

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Speaker 4: you know, they attract more TV eyeballs, which is most important.

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Speaker 2: Look, football runs the world, right, it is the breadwinner.

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Speaker 4: No, no, absolutely not. That's impossible, No way won't happen.

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Speaker 3: I think this is really from a gambling perspective. It

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Speaker 3: But Brett, I got to ask you about one team

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Speaker 3: I mean, former Big Eight member, former rival to Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Colin, No, there hasn't. I mean, they've got their

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Speaker 4: That hasn't translated to success at Nebraska. I mean, he

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Speaker 3: This year, well, you know projected oklot Nebraska going to Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nebraska, which is that game was what on Every

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Speaker 4: I guess I've got kind of a different view of

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Speaker 4: I understand that feeling. But you know, sometimes you know,

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Speaker 4: I think this year they've got a chance to be

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Speaker 4: But you have to have a quarterback, and as you

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Speaker 4: They'll have plenty of skill, guys, Gundy always has that.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of you know, I don't think you can

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Speaker 4: I mean, heck, until until last year they owned Texas.

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Speaker 4: So is that a dip or is that just a fluke?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, Stuckey. It's like you mixed

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Speaker 4: it's kind of like we're going to do very good,

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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, No, it's not an easy answer. It's because

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Speaker 2: always appreciate your thoughts there, Colin. What else you got

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Speaker 3: No, I think Brett's probably happy that Bedlam got moved

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Speaker 4: Oh that that place is going to be crazy. I

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Speaker 3: The Sooners in the Longhorns.

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Speaker 2: Colin and I, we're gonna after this, we're going to

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Speaker 2: this thought when this all came out, I said, well,

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Speaker 4: Stucky, You're dead on I mean, we're laughing about it,

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Speaker 4: You know, it's human nature and it could happen, especially

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Speaker 4: You knew it was going to go seven games no

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Speaker 3: I agree with your sentiment about taking an under up,

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Speaker 3: some Big twelve teams are playing some defense, which is

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Speaker 3: going to be an amazing thing to talk about here on

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Speaker 3: this podcast. Brett, before we let you go, you always

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Speaker 3: do a great piece on bowl predictions, so I can't

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Speaker 3: let you go unless we mentioned about the now sponsored

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Speaker 3: Barstool Arizona Bowl between the Mac and the Mountain West.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a prediction for the Mountain West and

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Speaker 3: MAC team that will be in that bowl.

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Speaker 4: Sources have told me that Big Cats kind of try

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Speaker 4: to invite, has already invited Wisconsin. The Badgers are mulling

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Speaker 4: that over. But unfortunately, you know, the bowl tie ins

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Speaker 4: have kind of been mixed up, and obviously with COVID

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Speaker 4: last year. To be honest, I'm not sure I think

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Speaker 4: it's a Mac Mountain West Coals. Here's one trick for

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Speaker 4: you youngsters out there. They want to do bowl projections.

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Speaker 4: Look at the bowl and see what teams haven't been

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Speaker 4: to the Bowl in a long time. So based on

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Speaker 4: that expert analysis, I'm going to go with the Aztecs

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Speaker 4: of San Diego State from the Mountain West playing the

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Speaker 4: Fighting Jim Mcelwaine's from Central Michigan. As part of the

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Speaker 4: contract with the Barstool Sports Arizona Bowl, both teams are

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Speaker 4: only allowed to play eight players on defense and the

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Speaker 4: over under per Big Cat has already been set as

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Speaker 4: one hundred. That's for the first half. Take the over.

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Speaker 4: One other little tidbit, I have never had a wrong

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Speaker 4: projection for the Barstool Arizona Bowl in my career, so

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Speaker 4: keep that. Keep that in mind when you're looking at

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Speaker 4: this game.

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Speaker 2: Those two teams actually played in the New Mexico Bowl

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Speaker 2: two years ago.

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Speaker 4: There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Just your Brett's coming on our podcast and telling me

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Speaker 3: to take San Diego State overs. I can't get away

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Speaker 3: from it.

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Speaker 2: All right, good stuff. As always we well on my word.

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Speaker 2: I will make sure that by the end of the

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Speaker 2: year we will have you on again. And as always,

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Speaker 2: if you aren't already, make sure you follow Brett on

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Speaker 2: Twitter at Brett two Teas Underscore McMurphy follow him for

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Speaker 2: all this news and then all college football news and

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Speaker 4: When the time comes, Hey, one thing real quick. I

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Speaker 4: kind of buried the lead. So last week I put

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Speaker 4: out Collins projected standings in the SEC if Oklahoma and

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Speaker 4: Texas would have joined the league, and it was one

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Speaker 4: of my most retweeted and commented posts of the week.

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Speaker 4: But more impressively, Texas head coach Steve Sarkesian is now

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Speaker 4: following Colin on Twitter that I wanted to drop that.

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Speaker 4: You know, I buried the lead that should have been,

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Speaker 4: That should have been the lead to the whole podcast.

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Speaker 3: I can't even begin to tell you how pro Steve

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, I'm about to see how

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Speaker 2: biased we're going to get on Texas now. Texas fans

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Speaker 2: used to hate Coln, They're about to start loving him now.

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Speaker 3: A live and huh in the herd.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks, says always Brad. We'll talk soon. You

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Speaker 2: got it, guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again to Brett. Okay. So this is just kind

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Speaker 2: The gener Nation get.

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Speaker 3: Gon a college specific channel for our podcast is going

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Speaker 3: to be fantastic. It's going to be continue to be

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Speaker 2: Right, college, So let's start at the top of the competition.

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Speaker 2: So when I look at the Big Twelve, you know,

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Speaker 2: this year, I look at it is I guess, yeah,

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Speaker 2: four clear tiers of teams they have. Oklahoma and Iowa

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Speaker 2: State are clearly the elite of the conference. And then

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Speaker 2: there's you know, TCU, Oklahoma State, Texas We're gonna be

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Speaker 2: around that seven eight win total mark West Virginia kind

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Speaker 2: of you could argue there or the next tier with

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Speaker 2: Kansas State, bail or Texas Tech. The interesting part with

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Speaker 2: your you know, West Virginia is your Kansas States, your

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Speaker 2: Bailer is your Texas Tech is year two or year

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Speaker 2: three of some coaches there. So if you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: that's going to take a jump in year three or

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Speaker 2: year two of a coach once you have those schemes

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Speaker 2: of them, you know, knowing that there was a COVID

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Speaker 2: of the conference is Kansas sitting in the basement. So

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Speaker 2: let's start at that top tier. We'll start with Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: They're going for their seventh straight Big Twelve title and

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Speaker 2: they did so last year despite starting zero to two

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Speaker 2: in the conference for the first time in twenty two years.

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Speaker 2: But they still found a way to get it. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: there's not much you could set out Olima. They're loaded.

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Speaker 2: They bring back nineteen starters. You have the Heisman front

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Speaker 2: runner in Spencer Radler back at quarterback. Lincoln Riley has

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Speaker 2: a top ten recruiting class coming in. They did lose

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Speaker 2: a couple of pros, but they have some twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: opt outs coming back in. They have some Tennessee transfers

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Speaker 2: at running back, safety, offensive line that should be plugged

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Speaker 2: into starting positions. So this team is absolutely loaded over

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Speaker 2: under at bet MGM the official Lotro fighter at the

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Speaker 2: one twenty. What do you see with Oklahoma? Where do

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Speaker 2: you project? And we'll start there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Lincoln Riiley has been in Norman since

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen and this is his best chance at winning

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Speaker 3: a national championship. Riley's been to three College football Playoffs

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Speaker 3: as a head coach. He's lost all three and now

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Speaker 3: finally Oklahoma is loaded on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 3: The offense, they're always loaded and I would argue the

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Speaker 3: reason that they lost two games early, the first two

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Speaker 3: conference games was because Spencer Rattler was the first quarterback

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Speaker 3: to take the field for OU And so, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's completely understandable that the Sooners dropped two games to

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Speaker 3: start off conference play last year because when's the last

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Speaker 3: time that they fielded a quarterback that had no experience whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Spencer Ratler got better as the year went on. The

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Speaker 3: biggest knock on him was, you know, pressure in the pocket.

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Speaker 3: His adjusted completion percentage was way down compared to what

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Speaker 3: it was towards the end of the season. And this

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Speaker 3: was the hottest team in the country after dropping two

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Speaker 3: of their first three. So, you know, listen the glaring

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Speaker 3: mark from last season. I could go on and on

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Speaker 3: about their success rate of both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 3: They're finishing drives on both sides of the ball. It's

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Speaker 3: top notch. It was eighty third and Havoc allowed. That

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Speaker 3: was the big problem. It was the offensive line not

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Speaker 3: protecting Ratler. Ratler making bad decisions. That all kind of

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Speaker 3: fixed itself towards the end of the season, and it

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Speaker 3: should be interesting to see how he comes out this year.

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Speaker 3: His adjusted completion percentage was huge eighty one percent when

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Speaker 3: kept clean, and I expect that to be the case

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Speaker 3: here from day one. They're loaded in the trench both

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Speaker 3: sides of the ball. Even though that we've had some

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Speaker 3: changeover in the skill positions, he still has some of

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Speaker 3: the best in the nation. And it's amazing how the portal,

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Speaker 3: a transfer portal is being used by Oklahoma to build depth,

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Speaker 3: not to go out and find starters or go out

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Speaker 3: and find someone on the offensive line. It's being used

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Speaker 3: to build depth at running back with Eric Gray, with

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Speaker 3: Mike Woods at wide receiver. Like it's not to fill

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Speaker 3: holes in the starting unit. So you know, Oklahoma Lincoln

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Speaker 3: Riley's taking huge advantage of that. You know. I think

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Speaker 3: one thing about the defense that we have to talk

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Speaker 3: about is this is probably the best defense that Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: will ever field in a long, long history. You and

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Speaker 3: I joked about the Ou defense and the Rose Bowl

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Speaker 3: against Georgia basically being statues being lawn chairs not moving around.

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Speaker 3: Now we got Nick Benito, We've got tons of players

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Speaker 3: returning to this defense that are havoc minded. Top twenty

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Speaker 3: five in defensive havoc. They're going to turn you over

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Speaker 3: they're going to sack you. Alex Grinch in year three

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Speaker 3: is going to pay dividends this year. They are national

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Speaker 3: title contenders because of defensive coordinator Alex Grinch and not

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Speaker 3: because of Spencer Ratler and offense, which is what most

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Speaker 3: people want to focus on. So it's a win total

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Speaker 3: I have at ten point one, which means if you

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Speaker 3: had to make a bet on the wind total, I

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Speaker 3: would take the under. But that's really, you know, just

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Speaker 3: probabilities of games being added up. I would say there's

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Speaker 3: a higher probability of them winning ten games versus them

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Speaker 3: winning twelve. I think eleven. The only way you can

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Speaker 3: play is the under. But at the same time, I

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Speaker 3: don't see who's beating them. I mean, Oklahoma reminds me

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Speaker 3: of Clemson. There's always one conference game, whether it's Kansas State,

650
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: there's always somebody on the conference slate that gives them

651
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: a problem because they just didn't show up. And I'm

652
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: not sure if the talk of Oklahoma going to the

653
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: SEC is going to have them on point every single game.

654
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: Alabama was on a mission last year as Oklahoma as

655
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: their swan saw onto the Big twelve, show up every

656
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: single weekend. That's the question with the wind total, I'm

657
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: passing on their win total. I have bigger plans for

658
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: Oklahoma futures.

659
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the wind total's a bit high, but

660
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 2: I don't want any part of the under And if

661
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: you look at their road games, it's two lane Kansas State,

662
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Kansas Baylor, and Oklahoma the state. So you know they

663
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: get Texas in Dallas, semi top finish. You know, they're

664
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 2: at Baylor then Iowa State than at Oklahoma State. I mean,

665
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: but that's the toughest stretch of the year. So yeah,

666
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: if I had a guess, they'd probably end up going

667
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: eleven and one. Can they finally beat Kansas State? They

668
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: seem to always drop that, But yeah, I mean the

669
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: defense is the defense is loaded. The only questions I

670
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: really have of them is in the secondary, but that's

671
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: down the line. You know, if they were to face

672
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: an elite passing attack in the College Wall Playoff, you know,

673
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: they did lose some corners, but I mean, they have

674
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: talent back there. But they were a top ten pass

675
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: defense last year. But I have some questions about if

676
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: they were to go up against an elite passing attack.

677
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: We didn't get to see it against Florida, because I

678
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: mean Florida's basically their whole offense was out the offensive line. Yeah,

679
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: you know, you do lose. Creed Humphrey was an All

680
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: American center, So I want to see how that position

681
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: is plugged with maybe a freshman and some of those

682
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: using pieces. But yeah, what really would hold held them

683
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: back last year was Spencer Rattler making just really a few,

684
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 2: just a few I mean close and lost questionable throws

685
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: late that cost him, and then towards the end of

686
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: the year he wasn't making those same throws. So you

687
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: would assume, you know, with a year of starting experience,

688
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: now he's going to be even better. And whenever Lincoln

689
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: Riley has had an experienced quarterback during his time in Norman,

690
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: he's gone to the college football playoffs, all right, So yeah,

691
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: I think win total's right. We'll get to futures later on,

692
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: and then we have Iowa State their win total over

693
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: nine and a half minus won ten. I already mentioned

694
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: that they're going to go to Oklahoma, which is obviously

695
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: a big difference in the two schedules, butts, there's no

696
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: divisions here. It's just the top two teams. So even

697
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: if they lose that game, you know, and they take

698
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: care of business against Oklahoma State, Texas and TCU, who

699
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: they host. So if they take care of those three

700
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: teams at home, they're going to have a really good

701
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: shot of getting a rematch with Oklahoma, whether or not

702
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: they win or lose that game. The questions with Io State. Look,

703
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: it's Matt Campbell, it's his tenth year. I believe the names.

704
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: This team brings back nineteen starters. It's rock Party. You know,

705
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: one of the best running backs in the country in

706
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: Brice Hall. They have probably the best tight end room

707
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: and Kohler and Allen in all of college football. Their

708
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: offensive line is loaded. They bring back everyone on the

709
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: offense line and they have depth now and last year

710
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: the offense line was good, but you know they lost Downing,

711
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 2: who comes back now healthy. He's an NFL talented guard.

712
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: Oh you know, there's the receivers aren't spectacular, but I

713
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: think it'll be a better receiving room than it was

714
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: last year. So as long as you know Hall and

715
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: Purty stay healthy, offense is going to be great. We

716
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: know about the defense. The defense in that three three five,

717
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: it brings back I mean almost everybody you know, at

718
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 2: all three levels you have NFL caliboy players starting Anthony

719
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: Johnson at corner. You know you have Will McDonald leave

720
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: the nation in Saxon, go on and on about Aysworth

721
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: and Mike Rose. It's his defense is just loaded in

722
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: its experience. This team has an identity, They're very well coached,

723
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna be as deep as they've

724
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: been in years. The questions here with them are can

725
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: they get off to the best start and go undefeated

726
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: its tenor before b October happens, and then can they

727
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: take care of business? I'm assuming they lose at Oklahoma.

728
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: Could they win that game, sure, but I'm assuming they

729
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: lose that game. So can they just take care of

730
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: business against Texas, you know, TCU and Oklahoma State? Assuming

731
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: they do that at home, they're probably going to go

732
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: to the Big Twelve title as long as they don't

733
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: drop some other games. But yeah, this teams loaded. It's

734
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: a in my opinion, it's the top six team in

735
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: the country. What are your thoughts on the Cyclones.

736
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, from Iowa State, every coach, every player from twenty

737
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: twenty is locked in for this twenty twenty one Big

738
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: Twelve championship run. The real question is if the Cyclones

739
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: have officially hit their ceiling as the number two program

740
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: in the Big Twelve. I mean nine wins. It's only

741
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: the third time in their program history that they've done that.

742
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: We can go over all the stats, but I mean

743
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: their top twenty five in all of our favorite categories

744
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: from success rate to finishing drives on both sides of

745
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: the ball. But does this team have the talent to

746
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 3: knock off Oklahoma? If not twice, then just once in Arlington.

747
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: Iowa State has not finished above sixth and Big Twelve

748
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: recruitings since twenty sixteen. For comparison's sake, since twenty sixteen,

749
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: Iowa State the number of four and five star recruits

750
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: they have is three. Oklahoma in that same time span

751
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 3: since twenty sixteen has had eighty four recruits that are

752
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 3: four star or five star. So that said, Iowa State

753
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: had every chance to win the Big Twelve last year.

754
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: They had more total yards. They held ou to just

755
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: one of eleven on third downs. They had a sack,

756
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: two tackles for loss, five passes defense, four hurries with

757
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: Spencer Ratler, I mean, there was three turnovers, but it

758
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: resulted in no points for the Sooners. I mean, Matt Campbell,

759
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: they had it all right there in that Big twelve

760
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: championship game. They just got down twenty four to seven

761
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: early and Oklahoma went into cruise control. To me, that

762
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: feels like the ceiling of this program for this season,

763
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: especially when I think Oklahoma has improved versus a version

764
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: that they had last year. For them to win this conference,

765
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: I would need a fat number to take Iowa State.

766
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: The plus two to fifty doesn't work for me. I'd

767
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 3: need more like plus four to fifty to take Iowa State. Here,

768
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 3: there's no value in the conference odds or the win

769
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 3: total for me. I project them at nine point six.

770
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: The market is at nine point five. I mean you

771
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: have to ask yourself. Can Matt Campbell beat Iowa? Is

772
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: there another Drake game where they win by three? Is

773
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: there another Northern Iowa game where theyre go to three overtimes?

774
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: Is there Louisiana loss type game on this schedule? And

775
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 3: I think that's if you're betting these numbers. I have

776
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 3: no problem with Stucky betting a forty to one. There's

777
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: twenty five ones out there for the national title for

778
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: Iowa State. In my opinion that has no value. Forty

779
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: to one is where it starts with Iowa State, and

780
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: if they lose to Iowa by the way in week two,

781
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 3: I still I mean, there's an argument to be made

782
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: that if they fall to sixty or eighty to one,

783
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: the national championship is still in front of them. They

784
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: just have to win out. So you know, I'm not

785
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: going to take anything away from what happens in September.

786
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: They can still sweep the schedule and win the national title.

787
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: And maybe this is just something we have to accept

788
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: with Matt Campbell. You know, with Tom Herman, we had

789
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: to accept his ways of coaching Texas highly emotional. We'll

790
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: get to that, right, But with Matt Campbell, maybe we

791
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: just have to accept that there is going to be

792
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: a game where you lose where you shouldn't have in September.

793
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: But I keep going back to the recruiting three, four

794
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: and five star recruits. That's it, and Oklahoma's had eighty

795
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: four since twenty sixteen. It just makes it seem like

796
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 3: it's impossible for Iowa State to overcome this mountain.

797
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the I mean, this is the this is the

798
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: year for Iowa State, and I think that especially with

799
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: all this Big Twelve, everything that's going down in the

800
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: Big Twelve. And you mentioned their recruiting classes that they've

801
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: been they're not an elite recruit recruiting school that this

802
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: team is just with all their super seniors and you know,

803
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: party coming back in Hall, like this is it for

804
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: Iowa State, right, Like this is the year if they're

805
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: going to do something this year and then I think

806
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: assuming like next year, I don't know where they're going

807
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: to be, but they're not going to be in the

808
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: discussion for even an outside shot at winning getting to

809
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: the College Wall playoff. The other part of that is

810
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: I think that there's questions with Alabama, with Clemson their

811
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: quarterbacked up with Ohio State, Like if they get to

812
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: the college I don't think it's like last year where

813
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm like I don't want to touch anybody because it's Alabama.

814
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: Like I think that at the top, it's not as

815
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: elite as it's been in years past, and this is

816
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: the peak of Iowa State. So I completely agree with you.

817
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: One thing I'll mention with Iowa State. Yeah, I mean

818
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: they have to beat Iowa can they They've lost five

819
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: in a row. I mean they've they've all been close,

820
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: and they've been right there, and that's so it's Iowa

821
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: and then they're they're September woes. Can they can they

822
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: get over that? I mean their road games this year,

823
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: you and l be Baye or Kansas State, West Virginia, Texas,

824
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: techn Okclhoma. So there's some tricky ones in there that

825
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: they could drop one or two.

826
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 5: I have.

827
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a little higher in Iowa State than

828
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: I think you and others. I mean I have their

829
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: wind total, their projected wins is it right around ten?

830
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: So like I think there's a tiny bit of value.

831
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 2: But it's not like I'm rushing to bet over nine

832
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: and a half. It's one ten if I make it

833
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: around ten, especially because I took the shot on the

834
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: national title. I did bet them when they were minus

835
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: one ten to get to the Big twelve title game,

836
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: which leads us into and by the way, one thing

837
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: I will mention on I would say their special teams

838
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: were bad last year and I had a kick return

839
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: it was really good. They lost to the NFL, but

840
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: their touchback percentage was awful. Remember the name Nevis's and

841
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: he's one of my favorite kickers. I said he's the

842
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: next Justin Tucker, the kid from Missouri who I love well.

843
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: His brother is transferred from FLORIDAM So you have two

844
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: mevs's kicking in Power five schools. But he has a

845
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: big leg and hopefully can address some of those touchback

846
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: and kick for turn coverage issues, because that's basically how

847
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: they lost that game to Louisiana last year. But I

848
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: had to get a shout out for Meves and my first,

849
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: my first special team's nugget of many.

850
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: Oh, that was smooth.

851
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: That leads us into TCU next. Maybe it's a look

852
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: in the past. Has been a sore subject between us

853
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: because you went to TCU and id Ohio State, and

854
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State luckily got into the Collegepora Playoff and ended

855
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: up winning it. But your guy, I think you're you know,

856
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: we talked about this on our first podcast. You're gonna

857
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: make a case for TCU getting to the Big twelve

858
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: title game where and I don't hate that, and I

859
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: don't hate your number, and a lot of times what

860
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: we're doing is just trying to find value the number.

861
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: The way that I just see this playing out is

862
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: that Iowa State with a million seniors post TCU at

863
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 2: the end of the year, and I'm high on TCU,

864
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: and I think that's the difference, and that's they're basically

865
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 2: playing to see who goes to the Big twelve title game.

866
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: But let's let's talk to TCU here over under at

867
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: bet MGM seven and a half over seven and a

868
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: half minus one fifteen. Gary Patterson year twenty two, and

869
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: he's been there forever eighteen and seventeen the past three years,

870
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: so it's been he's been middling the past years. But

871
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: they finished really strong last year, finished five and one.

872
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: The you know, you have Max Duggan coming back for

873
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: his junior year. They're running back is pretty loaded with

874
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 2: Zach Evans the company. They get their top three receivers back.

875
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: You know, they're O line. There's some questions there, but

876
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: there's some experience as well. Their defense is generally going

877
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: to be good under Patterson. They do have to replay

878
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 2: up the middle is where the questions are, so they lose.

879
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: You know, while they're they're great and middle linebacker went

880
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: to the NFL, and then they're two safeties. They're two

881
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: stud safeties. One was the second overall safety taken in

882
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: the draft, so they got to replace Morgan Washington at safety,

883
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: so there's some questions on the defense. They do bring

884
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: in a couple of Memphis transfers who should help t J.

885
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: Carter at safety, and then a tackle who had started

886
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: for two years of Memphis, so I think will help

887
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: on the offensive line. So this team has a lot,

888
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: They have a lot. I love their defensive line this year,

889
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: which is really experienced, and I think Dugan will take

890
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: that next step. The team that brings back, you know,

891
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: including kicker and plinyters that you're right around nineteen twenty starters.

892
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: So look, TCU is going to be a player in

893
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: the Big twelve this year. I know you're high on

894
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: the Horned Frogs. What are your thoughts here?

895
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love I'm gonna start call him

896
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 3: Hacksaw Max Duggan because I always think of the wrestler

897
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: Jim Duggan with the hoe and the two by four.

898
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: But you know, at twenty twenty was filled with plenty

899
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: of hurdles, and it starts with Max Duggan. He had

900
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: the unexpected surgery of the non COVID related heart condition

901
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: that was announced before you know. The pandemic really pushed

902
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: Big Twelve playoff for a few weeks, all the hurdles

903
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: were on the offensive side of the ball. You know,

904
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: once the rust came off of Max Duggan and we

905
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: started to see the brilliance of what he is. But

906
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 3: he was escaping, you know, some problems with the offensive

907
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 3: line and assignments. I mean, twenty two scrambles last year

908
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: for one hundred and sixty seven yards. That displays a

909
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: that Max Duggan can escape anybody, but b that the

910
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: offensive line was a huge issue. Four hundred and eighty

911
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: two yards on designed runs. And you know what he

912
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 3: does with these designed runs is he's opening up holes

913
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: for targets like Quinton Johnson, Tay Barber. These are very

914
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: skilled wide receiver positions that I think Max Duggan is

915
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: going to be able find easily because of what he

916
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: can do out in space. Now, it's important to know

917
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: that Sunny Comby is no longer the offensive coordinator at TCU.

918
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: He has moved on to Texas Tech. Kind of going

919
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: back home sort of thing for him after being at

920
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: TCU for a really long time. Doug Meetscham moves over

921
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: from wide receiver tight end coach to offensive coordinator. But

922
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 3: the name that you should be listening to Kenny Hill

923
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: has been elevated from offensive analysts to quarterback. Coach Patterson

924
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: has said the transition from Comby to Hill to work

925
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: with Dougan has just been seamless. So everything that we

926
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: loved about Kenny Hill, the explosiveness and some of the

927
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: flashes of brilliance, Hopefully Max Douggan gets all of that

928
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: and none of the Kenney Hill turnovers that you and

929
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 3: I are used to from the past. If the offensive

930
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: line can upgrade through a few players that they got

931
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 3: in the transfer portal, and Patterson did. He went out

932
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: and seek some players to build some depth there, the

933
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: success rate and the continued explosive plays will climb. The

934
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: defensive players that led the nation and tackles for loss.

935
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: Krey Coleman, ocean On mathis from the edge positions, and

936
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: Tarrel Cooper and George Ellis from from the inside. Even

937
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: a transfer from UCF Kenny Turnie, he's been able to

938
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: get into opponents' backfield. They're all back though. The four

939
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: to two five is loaded, the edge positions are loaded,

940
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: The secondary is going to be just fine. The linebacker

941
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: position is fine. You know, both safeties are gone, so

942
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of vulnerability between the hashes deep,

943
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean that they're not going to be

944
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: able to find people to replace some of that production

945
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 3: that they had. Win total is at seven and a half.

946
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: I project TCU at eight point one, So this is

947
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: an overplay for me. It's a solid contender in my opinion.

948
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: I think they can do better than just state wins.

949
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: I think they're a solid contender to make the Big

950
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: Twelve Championship Game. So besides the over I would go

951
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: out and seek a Big Twelve Championship Game appearance down

952
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: to the number of four to one. And I keep

953
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: preaching that because I know that there's eight to ones

954
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: out there, and I've seen some plus six fifties out there,

955
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: and I would assume that that's probably going to get

956
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: hit on a little bit. So I would take it

957
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: all the way down to four to one. And I

958
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: really think this is an easy hedge because if you

959
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: look at the TCU schedule, as with any win total,

960
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: you need something to line up at the end where

961
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 3: you get out of it. And right here we have

962
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 3: TCU ending the season against Iowa State, and Iowa State

963
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: team that's coming off their game against Oklahoma so we

964
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: don't know what the state of Iowa State is going

965
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: to be at that time. TCU gets them in a

966
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 3: prime spot and what I think could be a play

967
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 3: in game to the Big Twelve Championship. If Iowa State's

968
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 3: not up to the task to bring it two weeks

969
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: in a row, TCU could catch this championship game appearance.

970
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: I really think they're a really strong contender to do

971
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: some damage here. You know, if you want to get

972
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: some math behind that, you know four to one is

973
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 3: the last bypoint for the Big Twelve Championship. They're four

974
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: to fourteen to one odds to win the Big Twelve.

975
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: But what you do is you take that four to

976
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 3: one and you would take a time to plus two

977
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: hundred and the Big Twelve Championship game. So I think

978
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: they're odds of winning the championship at fourteen to one

979
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 3: are correct. I would opt to find the Big Twelve

980
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: title appearance at fod to one or better.

981
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you also have what Bethley's coming back

982
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: healthy on the defensive line, and yeah, last year, a

983
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 2: lot of their problems on offense started with the offense line.

984
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: Going into last year, they lost all five offensive line starters,

985
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 2: and then they had injuries and then there was Covid.

986
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: They had five different guys started right guard. That's just

987
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: hard to build any continuity. So they did lose, you know,

988
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: they lost their left tackle story. But yeah, they brought

989
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: in Easy from Memphis. They get West Harrison left guard

990
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: back from injury, and now they have over seventy five

991
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: career starts coming back on the offensive line. It's a

992
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 2: little more continuity. Obviously, have an off season a spring

993
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: to kind of build some of that with Dugan in

994
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: his junior year. So I agree, And ye have the secondary,

995
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: you have Hodges, Thomlinson is an All American corner. They

996
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: find their safeties to plug in TJ. Carter, Memphis and

997
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: a few other guys. The defense is going to be

998
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: fine under Patterson, as usually is. So yeah, I agree

999
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: that I think there's a lot of reasons for optimism

1000
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: in Fort.

1001
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: Worth was good.

1002
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: Let's move on to one of the other teams in

1003
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 2: that tier two and we'll talk Texas. It's the Steve

1004
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: Sarkesian era. Begins over under eight over eight minus one

1005
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: ten at at MGM. Not a ton of returning starters,

1006
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: but there's obviously some talent here at Texas and there's

1007
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: some talent that is left. But one of the big

1008
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: questions how much can Sarkisan do to the culture? And

1009
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: I think that's been one of the problems of Texas

1010
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: in the past few years, and it's why we've seen

1011
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: talent leave there and just some of the issues that

1012
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: they've had on and off the field. How much can

1013
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: he do for that. He's gonna call plays as well.

1014
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: You know, I think that there're always gonna be a

1015
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: lot different. So it's the first year of a new offense.

1016
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: I think that it's gonna be a you know, an

1017
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: RPO power running game focused to start, and then a

1018
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: complex passing attack, which we know that Stark Sark likes

1019
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 2: to run. And I think there's gonna be more motion,

1020
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: there's gonna be different offensive line splits. There's a lot

1021
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: of changes here. They do have Jean Robins, who I

1022
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: think is going to be featured in that offense and

1023
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: should put up huge numbers. He averaged over eight yards

1024
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: of carry last year. And you know, not only did

1025
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: have all that change, I have to find a quarterback.

1026
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 2: So it comes down to Casey Thompson, who saw throw

1027
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: four touchdowns in the Bowl against Colorado or Hudson card

1028
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: who I think are going to be in a competition

1029
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: through the fall. And you know, they bring in on

1030
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: the defensive side someone that you're gonna wax butudic about

1031
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: in Pete Kwakowski as their new defensive coordinator. Again, changes

1032
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: on the defensive side, it's gonna be a more of

1033
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: an attacking, blitzing style and there's some talent there, but

1034
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: there's a lot of coaching staff changes. They got to

1035
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: find a new quarterback, so a lot of questions in Texas.

1036
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: They were one thing that Sam Allinger, who was a

1037
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: winner and didn't do it. He didn't turn the ball

1038
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: over last year plus ten turnover margin last year. Can

1039
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: they repeat some of that? I'm not sure? But what

1040
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: are your early thoughts on Texas? Who away games are

1041
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: katsasll TCU, Baylor, Iowa State, West Virginia, and OU in Dallas?

1042
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: Not easy? What are your thoughts there?

1043
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: No, not an easy schedule at all. And I think

1044
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 3: the one thing that we need to get out in

1045
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: the discussion first is when you listen to our college

1046
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: football podcast, we try to be as scientific and mathematical

1047
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: and try to bring a perspective that at least has

1048
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 3: some credibility to what we're trying to tell you, not

1049
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: just oh I feel this or oh I think this.

1050
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: Something we can't measure. Is what SARK has to do

1051
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: from day one, which is establish a new locker room culture,

1052
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: just a new culture all over campus. The way that

1053
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 3: we set expectations for the Boosters, the way that we

1054
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 3: bring players in from recruiting, the way that we have

1055
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 3: player development. There have been plenty of recruits leave the

1056
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: state of Texas and shun the Longhorns because the player

1057
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: development was not up to speed. They didn't feel like

1058
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: the Texas Longhorn program was going to get them ready

1059
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: for the NFL. And I think that translates into what

1060
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: Tom Herman every single year. Texas would enter Week one

1061
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 3: with injuries. Why because Tom Herman was beating the shit

1062
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 3: out of them in two a day's practices.

1063
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: We are not in a point in our program where

1064
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: we can not play our best and expect to win.

1065
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen.

1066
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: You know, when you do that week after week after week,

1067
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: or maybe it's in October and you're still making them

1068
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: go full pads on a Thursday and Friday, you're going

1069
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 3: to have all these injuries and it's gonna show on

1070
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: the field. So you can't you beat your team up

1071
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: for a week of practice and then go up to

1072
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: Kansas and almost get beat and you wonder why it's

1073
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: because you beat your team up all week in practice.

1074
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: So you know, in Tom Herman, just the whole hoop hah,

1075
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: we're underdogs and they you know, always get a win

1076
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: as an underdog, and or hey, we're favored and we

1077
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: don't care about this game and you almost always lose it.

1078
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 3: That's out the door. Now we get a stable sark

1079
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: And one thing I do know, that guy was fifty

1080
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 3: six percent against the spread and his time as a

1081
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: head coach at USC in Washington, if you want to

1082
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: throw his in his time as the offensive coordinator at Alabama,

1083
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: he is one of the most winningest coaches against the

1084
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: mark if you throw in Alabama's numbers in his time there,

1085
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: than anybody in the coaching rank. So this is somebody.

1086
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: Steve Sarkisian is a coach that we can throw our

1087
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: wallet behind and we can trust. Now the question is

1088
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: this going to translate Day one? Getting fifty three percent

1089
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: of our offense back. But then I go when I

1090
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: watch the Alamo bowle, and I think, holy God, Casey

1091
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: Thompson is a mini Patrick Mahomes. Why am I not

1092
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: betting this kid for the Heisman? Well, I mean there's

1093
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: only twenty dropbacks, right, I mean I can't base a

1094
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: heisman bet on twenty drop backs. So that's gonna be tough.

1095
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the things. And he might not start,

1096
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: he might and he might not start AKV. Hudson Car.

1097
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: But man, you watch at Alim mobowle, and I know

1098
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: it's against Colorado, but good lord, you look at the

1099
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 3: talent Tom Herman had. Is it a disposal? And you

1100
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: can never do any better with this team. I think

1101
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: Sark is gonna have the ability to what I called

1102
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: sitting on a powder keg and gonna be able to

1103
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 3: light the fuse and show these guys's talent what they have.

1104
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: So the transition from Sark to go from analyst offensive

1105
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: coordinator for Lane Kivin's departure was absolutely fault flawless. At Alabama.

1106
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: We may never see anything in college football quite like

1107
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty Alabama offensive attack. More importantly, Sark adopted

1108
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: more more tight end concepts, and he found plenty of

1109
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 3: ways to get the balls in the hands of his

1110
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: best players. Devata Smith, whether you know we had to

1111
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: do some motion, we found ways to get the ball

1112
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: in the right people's hands at the right time, in

1113
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: the right spot in the field. Kyle Flood coming over

1114
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: with Sark from Tuscaloosa is extremely notable. Flood has a

1115
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: history of getting the most out of his offensive lines.

1116
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 3: He comes into a unit that and you mentioned it.

1117
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot of turnovers and Elanger did a

1118
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: great job ball protection. They were twenty second and havoc allowed.

1119
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: Last year the Longhorns were and Flood should continue that

1120
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: kind of protection. So at least Casey Thompson or Card,

1121
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: you know, if they make mistakes, it shouldn't because of pressure.

1122
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: We'll see who wins that battle inside of camp. There's

1123
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: no worries for the quarterback here for the Longhorns. You know,

1124
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: three of the top five targets return tight end Kate

1125
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: Brewers is expected to be a big weapon in this offense.

1126
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 3: Considering what Sark did at Alabama, beyond Robinson, you can't

1127
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: get this guy enough compliments.

1128
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: He was completely.

1129
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 3: Underutilized by Tom Herman. I was just staring at a

1130
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 3: box score we had ten carries for one hundred and

1131
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: eighty three yards. He's just a huge weapon in this offense.

1132
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 3: And then journeyman position, journeyman Roshawn Johnson backing him up.

1133
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: We say that because I think he was linebacker for

1134
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: a little while before he flip back over to the

1135
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: offensive side. But let's just say Texas on offenses, they're

1136
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: I mean, they're not Oklahoma loaded, but they have a

1137
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: lot of talent and they're you know, they're deep. Even

1138
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: with fifty three percent returning. There's no questions in my

1139
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 3: mind that Pete Kowodokowski taking over DC that they will

1140
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: be prepared for these air raid RPO offenses, kind of

1141
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: like what Washington and Boise saw all the time. They

1142
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 3: were always prepared for these. The biggest issue is replacing

1143
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: the havoc with Joseph Asai not there anymore. The depth

1144
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: in the front seven goes too deep. There's five starters

1145
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: come back from the Alima Bowl in the secondary alone,

1146
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 3: this team is is a Big twelve championship contender. If

1147
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: Stark is able to mix clock control with explosiveness similar

1148
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 3: to what he did at Alabama. Now Kuwadakowski is able

1149
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: to maintain the Havocan success rate without Joseph Asai. It's

1150
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: really not huge asks of these two coaches, considering the

1151
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 3: talent they have. So I think I think the floor

1152
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: is what their win total is. My wind total makes

1153
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 3: it seven point seven.

1154
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: They're at eight.

1155
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: I actually think that's their floor. I don't know if

1156
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to tap in now that they

1157
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 3: have a huge mark on their back Texas leaving the conference.

1158
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 3: This can be the final year you're gonna get everybody's

1159
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 3: best game, doesn't matter what week it is, and this

1160
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: schedule you mentioned it is brutal. So I'm not taking

1161
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: the over eight. But I do think that seven point

1162
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 3: seven is their floor. And that's amazing thing to say

1163
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 3: about Texas football. So no value in the conference, no

1164
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 3: value in the wind total. But I will say this

1165
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: we said in the last podcast, I'll say it again.

1166
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: That number opened at sixteen and a half against Louisiana.

1167
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: For Week one, it's all the way down to nine

1168
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 3: and a half. I'm willing to sit here for the

1169
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: next couple of weeks and let that number continue to drop.

1170
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: I will happily let everybody else take Louisiana and they're

1171
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: billy napiers. If that thing gets down to a touch,

1172
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: you can count me all in on Texas taking to

1173
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: Texas Longhorns in week one.

1174
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I mean it's pretty shocking to

1175
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: think that Texas, you know, under Strong and Herman, they

1176
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: are to only twenty six and fifteen at home during

1177
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: their ten ures. That's I mean, that's that's pretty bad.

1178
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: But I like, I like there for for where you

1179
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: think Texas should be. I like their defense. I mean,

1180
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: I think Kwikowski has a lot of pieces to work with.

1181
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: I mean you have linebackers a bit of a question.

1182
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 2: You have overshown there, but Mitchell transferred. But I mean

1183
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: the defensive line, even though they lost Osa, you have

1184
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: Collins and Coburn and Sweat. And then you bring in

1185
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: some transfers. So you're hoping that you know, Power five

1186
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: transfers Thornton at LSU, Notre Dame transfer. They're gonna hope

1187
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: they can duplicate or at least help fill the void

1188
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: that Osi left. As far as getting pressure, you know,

1189
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: you have talented corners. You did lose you know some

1190
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: town the second I be a really talented corner. So

1191
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: there's a lot to work with with Kwakowski the offensive line,

1192
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: I agree. I think that flood It can only help

1193
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: the offensive line. Now, they did lose Cosmy to the NFL.

1194
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: You know, you know Curse Setter is gonna move from

1195
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: center to right tackle presumably, and he's was hurt. Is

1196
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: he going to be ready to go? So there are

1197
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: some moving pieces on the offensive line. But I think

1198
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: flood there. You know, there's gonna be some a little

1199
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: some scheme changing. So are there some growing pains early? Maybe?

1200
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 2: And that's to be expected with a brand new scheme,

1201
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: and who knows what the quarterback is going to be.

1202
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm at like seven to six, so I'm

1203
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: close to you and I have no interest in the

1204
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: wind total or future. But there is a world where

1205
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: just everything works for Texas this year. Now it's asking

1206
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: a lot. Now if you had Ellinger be a different story,

1207
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 2: but you know, just not the unknown at quarterback, which

1208
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: can work if you want to take more of a

1209
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: shot with Texas on the upside. But I think their

1210
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: win total is priced right.

1211
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: You've allowed no time for analysis or decision making.

1212
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: You still have not taken into account the human factor.

1213
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: Let's move on to Oklahoma. State. Their wind total over

1214
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: seven and a half minus one ten. We talked with

1215
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Brey McMurphy about Oklahoma State. This is Gundhi's about seventeenth

1216
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: year again, been there forever. Their defense is going to

1217
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: be loaded. We don't need to go into their deed.

1218
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: It's going to be really good. And they bring eleven

1219
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: of their top ten tackles they're back. It's it's gonna

1220
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: be a really really good defense. The questions are going

1221
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: to be on offense. They lose seventy percent of their

1222
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: receptions and they kind of the headline story will be

1223
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: they lost Hubbard and they lost Wallace, but you know

1224
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: it's not like they were that involved last year. But

1225
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: those were obviously two guys who went to the NFL.

1226
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: But you know you also lost Stoner and you know,

1227
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 2: Wolf transferred at receiver, so there's you know, you lost

1228
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: a lot of talent on the outside and the offensive

1229
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: line is was last year, but first of all, it

1230
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: was just decimated by transfers and injuries and COVID. You know,

1231
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 2: you do lose Jenkins, the right tackle to the NFL

1232
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: was a stud. You lose your center, you do out

1233
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: of Miami, Ohio center, and God Lesky's who's good and

1234
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: Sills comes back at left guard, your right guard and

1235
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: right tackle or back there were you know, the softoworre

1236
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: has got experiences freshmen, So there's some experience there, but

1237
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: still questions on the offensive line. B Oklahoma State questions

1238
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: on the outside, and you're gonna have some young guys.

1239
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: You're gonna have Tay Martin and some of you might

1240
00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: remember him at Washington State. So Ken the offense step

1241
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: up and take that next step for Gundy, who no

1242
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: longer has the mullet, by the way, because we know

1243
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: this ded is going to be really good. So this

1244
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: is not a this is not your older brother's Oklahoma

1245
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: State team. This is really really really good defense. Questions

1246
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 2: about the offense, Yeah, the defense that did lose Verdarius

1247
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: Wims was a great cornerback, but they have NFL safeties

1248
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: and just the defense is loaded. Questions on the offense,

1249
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,479
Speaker 2: Spencer standers, He's just look, he's got a lot of talent.

1250
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: He also has to cut down on his mistakes and turnovers.

1251
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: The offensive line hasn't really helped him. There's been a

1252
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: lot of in flux around it. But he has to

1253
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: cut down on his turnovers his bottom line. What are

1254
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: your thoughts on the pokes.

1255
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad Brett's not on anymore. Howm I get

1256
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: chewed out from an alumni standpoint, and a crowded pocket

1257
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 3: is not the place Spencer Sanders wants to be. Offense

1258
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: return sixty six percent of we'll call it TARP from

1259
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: transfer order activity to returning production, and they finished one

1260
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: hundred and second in success rate. Last year they finished

1261
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: ninetieth and finishing drives. I would like to blame this

1262
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 3: all on offensive line, but it seems like it's a

1263
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: little bit more than that. It's just a last year

1264
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty with Chuba Hubbard Thailand Wallace set to

1265
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: join Spencer Sanders for a big twelve championship run last year,

1266
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: and then it just didn't happen. Pandemic got Gundhi wearing

1267
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: a Oaan T shirt, we got strife within the program,

1268
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: we got COVID running rampant everywhere. It was just an

1269
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 3: absolute mess. Offense finished outside the top one hundred successory

1270
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: for the first time in a really long time. Whether

1271
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: that's mistakes from skill positions or gaps from the offensive line,

1272
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 3: it's just a unit that could not generate yards one

1273
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 3: hundred and sixteenth in line yards. Plenty of starters returned

1274
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: to the offensive line, and the left tackle should be

1275
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: filled by a Juco transfer in place of Tevin Jenkins,

1276
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 3: who's now playing for the Chicago Bears. But the question

1277
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: is is that enough to improve on a rank of

1278
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixteenth. Wide receiver is absolutely gutted, from

1279
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 3: Wallace to Dylan Stoner to Land and Wolf. Like you

1280
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 3: mentioned that, I know a ton of pokesbackers would point

1281
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: to the reloading of skill positions, but maybe for once

1282
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: we should actually question this offensive staff. You know, I'll

1283
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: leave the defense alone because I think it's fine with

1284
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: Jim Knowles, But from the offensive perspective, when Oklahoma State

1285
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 3: was rolling, it was with Mike irrisich now currently with

1286
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 3: He went to Ohio State and now he's with Penn State.

1287
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: Mike Earrison should the amazing things in still Water from

1288
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen. Since then, we had the

1289
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: Princeton influx with Sean Gleason in twenty nineteen. Then longtime

1290
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: wide receiver coach Casey Dunn took over in twenty twenty.

1291
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: The direction of the offense is going the opposite direction

1292
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 3: of where the defense is going. The defense was stellar

1293
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: under Gym Moles his fourth season is defensive coordinator. Pokes

1294
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: were the best third down defensive stop unit in the nation.

1295
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: Eighty six percent of this unit returns deep at safety.

1296
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: They maintained the defensive line. I mean, there shouldn't be

1297
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: much of a drop off from eleventh and success rate

1298
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 3: and tenth in Havoc. Another win total of eight point

1299
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: one that I make similar to TCU with a BETMGM

1300
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: line at seven point five. But despite the mathematic numbers

1301
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,479
Speaker 3: that I've got, I'm not going over on this team.

1302
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: The Pokes get Tulsa and Boise State in two of

1303
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: their first three games. And if the offense isn't clicking,

1304
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 3: if that offensive line hasn't figured it out, if Casey

1305
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: Dunn hasn't figured it out as offensive coordinator, if Yundi

1306
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 3: can't figure it out, and Spencer Sanders can't throw a

1307
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 3: pass when somebody's in the pocket, they're going to struggle

1308
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 3: against Tulsa and Boise State. Now, I know Tulsa loses

1309
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: zav and Collins the all world everything, but they still

1310
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: return everything else on that defense project that spread to

1311
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: be around ten. Now that then they have to go

1312
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: to Boise and they get Andy Avlos, who's known for

1313
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 3: his defensive coordinator skills, returns as head coach. That's great

1314
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: news for the Broncos defense. That spread should be around forests.

1315
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: Oklhoma State favored by four. Those are must wins to

1316
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: eclipse U a win total of seven and a half.

1317
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: The Big twelve schedule includes Texas and at Iowa State

1318
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 3: on back to backs, and the three most explosive offenses.

1319
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: You want to talk about taxing your defense and maybe

1320
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: they're tired of carrying all the water. The three most

1321
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: explosive offenses come against that stellar defense at the end

1322
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: of the year in TCU, Texas Tech with Tyler Show

1323
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 3: and Oklahoma. So I'm actually going to go against my

1324
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: mathematics with say eight point one. I think under seven

1325
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 3: and a half is the play on the Cowboys.

1326
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma State. Road schedule is brutal Boise, Texas eight,

1327
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: West Virginia, Texas Tech. I mean it is only five,

1328
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: but it's not an easy road schedule. I had to

1329
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: shave half half of a wind total off my number

1330
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: because Conda got rid of the mullet, so I would

1331
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: have got done kidding, but yeah, I would either go.

1332
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty much right on the big twelve.

1333
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: A lot of the wind totals I think are priced

1334
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: pretty accurately, So nothing for me with Oklahoma State. Let's

1335
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 2: kind of move down to that next here. Then I'll

1336
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: ask you about a pair of teams we could talk

1337
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: about all at once, to Kansas State and West Virginia too.

1338
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 2: You know why, I think that they're interesting and if

1339
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: we want, we could throw Texas Tech in the here

1340
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: because they have three coaches who are all in year three,

1341
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: where at times you'll see a big jump if you,

1342
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 2: you know, you get some more of your guys in there,

1343
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: you're you know, you've got a couple of years of

1344
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: implementing your schemes and your changes. So you have Chris

1345
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: climb in year three, Kansas State, your boy, Neil Brown

1346
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: year three at West Virginia, Matt Wells year three at

1347
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. Texas Tech over under five over five minus

1348
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: one twenty five, Kansas State five and a half minus

1349
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: one twenty. What's a little higher over six and a

1350
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: half minus one twenty. We can go a little more

1351
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: in depth of any of these teams, but which one

1352
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: of those three intrigues you the most, or do you

1353
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: want to talk about.

1354
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 3: First listen, I think what West Virginia's doing on the

1355
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball is amazing, considering they had

1356
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: to swap out of defensive coordinator before last season and

1357
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 3: it was kind of a piece together coaching staff and

1358
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 3: the numbers they were able to put up fifteenth and

1359
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 3: success rate eighteenth and finishing drives twentieth in defensive havoc

1360
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: and you fired your defensive coordinator and a pandemic. I

1361
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: mean pretty amazing stuff. And I mean, really they're struggling

1362
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: to find answers. On the offense. We got our Bowling

1363
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 3: Green transfer Jerio Doje. We got a thousand yard back

1364
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 3: and Leddy Brown coming back behind an offensive line that

1365
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 3: returns a bunch of players that allowed seventy six tackles

1366
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 3: for loss. So when you look at West Virginia, they

1367
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: were one hundred and thirteenth in tackles for loss per

1368
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 3: game on the offensive line. It's the biggest reason why

1369
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: West Virginia isn't a contender for the Big Twelve and

1370
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 3: the reason that held them back last year because the

1371
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 3: defense was absolutely stellar. That has to improve or Neil

1372
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 3: Brown is just going to have to find, you know,

1373
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 3: ways to have the defense win games. Letty Brown is

1374
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 3: a good running back, but he only averaged two point

1375
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: nine yards after contact. That's not like you know, Trey

1376
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 3: Sermon five yards after contact type stuff. You know, so

1377
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 3: we'll see. I think the defense can carry them. Tyke Smith,

1378
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: you know, transferring to be in Georgia's secondary that hurts

1379
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 3: a little bit. But Darius, you know, Darius Stills is

1380
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 3: in the NFL, but there's still Stills left. I think

1381
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: that this is another year of build on the offensive

1382
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 3: side for West Virginia. There's no play here for me.

1383
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: But what you need to watch for if you were

1384
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: looking at West Virginia football is Week one against Maryland.

1385
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 3: And the reason I say that is because Maryland, on

1386
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball was outside the top

1387
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: one hundred in line yards. And if West Virginia has

1388
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 3: retooled this offensive line, they should be able to move

1389
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: the ball with Letty Brown against Maryland's defensive line. If

1390
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: that can't happen in Week one, it's going to be

1391
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 3: a long season for West Virginia. So I'll get your

1392
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: thoughts before I pivot into Tyler's Show and the Texas

1393
01:05:58,920 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: Tech Show.

1394
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean their defense was great last year. I

1395
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: mean I think in some matters are number one against

1396
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: the pass. They were number two nationally in defensive success

1397
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: rate improvement from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty. Now they

1398
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: and they have a lot of talent coming back. You know,

1399
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: Messador is a stud They have one of the Stills back.

1400
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: But they did lose a decent amount of town. I mean,

1401
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: you lose Fields to the NFL. Linebacker, you lose Tayke Smith,

1402
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: you lose Miller, your corner to Auburn, you lose Jeffrey Pooler,

1403
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: and then Stills. The other Stills is in the NFL.

1404
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: They have, you know, some promising transfers coming in though

1405
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: that you know, guys like Scott a Young who started

1406
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: in the Bowl game. So they have some experience that

1407
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: are going to come in. And you know, you bring

1408
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: in Lance Sticks in for Penn State, a cornerback Charles

1409
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: Woods from Illinois State who has a lot of promise

1410
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: that he's gonna probably need to step up and start.

1411
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: So I think the defense will still be okay, it's

1412
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: not just a lot They're going to be as good,

1413
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: which is scary because they were so good last year

1414
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: and it's hard to maintain a top five level. So

1415
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,959
Speaker 2: if there's any drop off, it's it's gonna hurt because

1416
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 2: their offense needs to pick it up, and you have

1417
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: Deggy and Letty Brown's a good back. Their offensive line,

1418
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: they say they address it, but everyone says they address it, right.

1419
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you bring it a you know,

1420
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: Doug Nester from VA Tech. I mean, how's it all

1421
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: gonna work. We'll see. They lose three starters, they get

1422
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: a couple of guys, guys back health, either center has

1423
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: a lot of promises a freshman All American. But one

1424
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: of the other biggest questions is drops. Their drops were

1425
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: awful last year. One of the worst teams in the

1426
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: nation as far as wide receiver drops. So you know,

1427
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: they need to bounce back from Sam James. They need

1428
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: someone to just step up as the number one go

1429
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: to receiver. I'm not sure that they have that. Otherwise

1430
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: you're just gonna the offensive line. Is it gonna give

1431
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: you a time? And you know teams are just teeing

1432
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: off on Letty Brown. That's that's you know where I

1433
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: think West Virginia's gonna struggle.

1434
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:39,959
Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree.

1435
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: I think the wind ttal's right at about six and

1436
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: a half. They I amaged to see. Week two, they

1437
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 2: play Long Island, the university's second year and their coach

1438
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: just resigned their quarterback then said he's leaving because of

1439
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: it just happened like this month, So that that should

1440
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: be an interesting spreading game. I mean, it's July. The

1441
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: coach just left their head coach, there's the searching for

1442
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: a head coach. It's literally it's July twenty seventh. So yeah,

1443
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: I agree with you on everything you said. With West Virginia.

1444
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: Do you want to take a receiver step off, we'll see. Yeah.

1445
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 3: Do you want to take a guess on what that

1446
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 3: projected point spread is going to be?

1447
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't even Like, I don't know how

1448
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: to project Long Island I.

1449
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 3: Fifty five, I don't know based on Sagarin fifty nine

1450
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: and a half. So that that Long Island shorts game,

1451
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 3: that's that's interesting. Can West Virginia muster that many points

1452
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 3: the total?

1453
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: It could be it could be I don't know. I

1454
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 2: mean Long Island they don't have they don't have a

1455
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 2: coach or a quarterback as of like two weeks ago

1456
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 2: somehow I ran into a story about that. So yeah,

1457
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: let's uh that Baylor. I mean it's Dave Randa year two.

1458
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: So how much can you really take from what happened

1459
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: last year? In a pandemic year. With Dave Randa, they

1460
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: bring back some talent. You know, their defense should be

1461
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: a lot better, you would think under Randa. Joe Bernard,

1462
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: their stun linebacker comes back from injury. Now their offense

1463
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: is going to go in a different direction. You bring

1464
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: in the offensive coordinator from BYU, and you lose your quarterback,

1465
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: Charlie Grewer. I don't know who their quarterback is going

1466
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: to be from everything that I've read, I mean, you

1467
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: have something you guys might have heard of. Some of

1468
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: these things like Vohannan and Zena, Like you know when

1469
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 2: Brewer was hurting in the bowl game. They've gotten some

1470
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: reps in the past. You also have like a couple

1471
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 2: freshmen in the mix and shape, and I think was

1472
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 2: ahead of the race in the spring. He was supposed

1473
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: to be a baseball player, but now he said he's

1474
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: focusing more on on football. Grimes is going to change

1475
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: this offense. It's going to be like more wide zone split,

1476
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 2: so you know, then they couldn't run the ball last year.

1477
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: They do get evnder Back at running back, so I

1478
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: have a lot of questions how the offense is going

1479
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: to work this year in year one of grimes and

1480
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: then finding a quarterback. I do think that Randa will

1481
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: have this defense. Their defense wasn't bad last year. It

1482
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: was their offense, and I think the defense will take

1483
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: even another step in the right direction. But their offense

1484
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: last year one hundred and twenty fifth in explosiveness and

1485
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: their tackle for a lost percentage allowed dead last in

1486
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: the nation. I mean, just some scary, scary numbers. They're

1487
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 2: over under seven four, five and a half. They do

1488
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 2: have an easy road schedule like for a Big twelve

1489
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: team in Texas State, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State TCU,

1490
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: so could be a lot worse as far as that.

1491
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: With your thoughts on Baylor.

1492
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 3: The Dave Randa defense, I was actually a little bit

1493
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 3: pleasantly surprised that they finished fifty fourth and success rate

1494
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 3: considering how complex his defensive scheme is because they line

1495
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 3: up in different you know, whether there's two down linemen,

1496
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: three down line, and it really changes. Hey, he moves

1497
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: that around so much, but they were able to grasp

1498
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 3: that they were one hundred and first and finishing drives

1499
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 3: and sixty six then havoc. So they're not really there

1500
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 3: when it matters down in scoring opportunities, and they weren't

1501
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 3: really able to take the ball away. Pretty vanilla in

1502
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 3: those categories. But I expect the defense to continue to

1503
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 3: get better. They returned seventy five percent from a transfer

1504
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: portal and a returning production aspect. The offense is where

1505
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 3: all the question marks come. Just like you said, they

1506
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: can't get much worse hundred nineteenth and success rate one

1507
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: hundred and thirteenth and havoc allowed. I mean there was

1508
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: only like one hundred and twenty seven teams that even played,

1509
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 3: So you know the listen. The biggest acquisition that we

1510
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 3: could say, I know, we just you ran through all

1511
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 3: the players and there's a lot of names on there

1512
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 3: that might not mean anything when it comes to Saturdays,

1513
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 3: But the biggest acquisition that Baylor made was to go

1514
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: and get offensive coordinator Jeff Grimes to come in from

1515
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,879
Speaker 3: BYU after you know, one of the most successful offensive

1516
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 3: seasons a team could ever have in the Cougars last year.

1517
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: You know, you should expect an even distribution of run

1518
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,759
Speaker 3: and pass BYU had one of the best passing attacks

1519
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 3: in the nation, but still was sixty fifth and rush rate,

1520
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 3: so you know there's we're going to see something towards that.

1521
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: There's questions of quarterback with Bohannon and Zeno to an

1522
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 3: offensive line that went the transfer route and the transfer

1523
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 3: portal to fill some of the holes. Is that a

1524
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: good thing? I don't know if that. I mean the

1525
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 3: non conference is cay with Texas State and Texas Southern

1526
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 3: and a completely depleted BYU team that now has Grimes.

1527
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 3: Baylor's offensive coordinator's gonna have all the info on that

1528
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: BYU Geme. That's a huge leg up there. You know,

1529
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 3: can they get three games out of their conference? I mean,

1530
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 3: KU is a double digit spread, West Virginia, Kansas State

1531
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: complete coin flips. You would need all three of them

1532
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 3: to eclipse this win total. It's tough to do when

1533
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 3: there's so many questions on offense. The good news is

1534
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 3: this is a team that should win a minimum of

1535
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 3: four games because the schedule dictates it. But they have

1536
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 3: to find the offense if they're gonna get over the

1537
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 3: hump and beat teams not named Kansas. I'm not sure

1538
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: Baylor can pull it off. To me, they're a stay

1539
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 3: away until I see a sign of life on offense.

1540
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the one good thing I always write

1541
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: down for these teams, I'll put I'll mark down like

1542
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: I marked down for Baylor four conference road games, which

1543
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: is awesome because I don't can't count Kansas, so like

1544
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 2: they only got four and then Kansas, so they have

1545
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: that work in your favor. But I agree, and I

1546
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: think the number is about right speaking of Kansas, but

1547
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: the other school kids. But you did kind of skip

1548
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 2: over Kansas State. Chris Climbs down three. Skylettopsk was back

1549
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 2: for sixth year. It's got a good young running back

1550
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: to and the ball off to induce ball. You know,

1551
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: they have questions at receiver. I mean they need a

1552
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: guy like Lak knowles Is to step up. And their

1553
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 2: offensive line a lot of experience returns, which is good.

1554
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 2: Their defense loses a bunch. They're gonna rely on transfers.

1555
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: Their defense was awful last year. It was just bad,

1556
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 2: and then their offense was not efficient. So does this

1557
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 2: team take a step forward in year three under climb

1558
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: and any thoughts on Kansas State Yeah, I.

1559
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: Mean Skyler Howard is returning at the age of what

1560
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 3: twenty four years old? Yeah, so Will Howard got some

1561
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 3: playing time when Skyler Thompson was hurt. So you do

1562
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 3: have two quarterbacks that have game experience. The offensive line

1563
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 3: has experienced through the too deep and one of the

1564
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 3: most explosive players in the Big Twelve named Deuce Fawn.

1565
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 3: But are these good things that the offensive line runs

1566
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 3: too deep and his most experienced. When you're one hundred

1567
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 3: and twelve in success rate and you're one hundred and

1568
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 3: first and havoc allowed, this team is completely dependent on

1569
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 3: the explosive play and the problem is if it's not

1570
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 3: Skyler Thompson or reduced Fawn, they haven't identified anybody else.

1571
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 3: Success rate has plagued new coach Chris Climban two years straight. Now,

1572
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 3: moving the chains as has got to be a top

1573
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 3: priority this season and not allowing explosive plays to dictate

1574
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 3: wins and losses on both sides of the ball. Kansas

1575
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: State wins ball games when they have exposive plays, and

1576
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 3: they limit exposive plays. Think of Arkansas State right then

1577
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 3: beating OU and losing to Arkansas State is because of

1578
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 3: explosive plays. It has nothing to do with success rate,

1579
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 3: which is just a problem with Kansas State and betting

1580
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 3: them week to week and year to year is an

1581
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: issue when you can't lick the whole success rate and

1582
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 3: controlling the chains. So you know the three three five,

1583
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 3: they took some losses in the linebacker unit. That'll be

1584
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 3: a point of attack for all of the Big twelve.

1585
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 3: Although two returning corners and safety jeral McPherson or positive

1586
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 3: returns case. They didn't have an interception in their last

1587
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 3: five games. So five conference home games is good. Like

1588
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: you mentioned, getting Stanford Arlington at full health and the

1589
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,839
Speaker 3: very first game of the season, that's good. But Nevada

1590
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 3: and Carson Strong could be trouble, especially when I say

1591
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: the point of attack is going to be in the

1592
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 3: middle of the field at the linebackers. Win total for

1593
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 3: me is a complete pass. If they're going to clip

1594
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 3: five and a half wins, then you know, if you

1595
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 3: think that they're good enough to eclipse five and a

1596
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 3: half wins, then just take plus one and a half

1597
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 3: against Stanford in the first game. I think you make

1598
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 3: a decision against Stanford and you don't play the win

1599
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 3: total and.

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01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: You don't have to hold your money.

1601
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 3: I agree.

1602
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: I think it digital comes down to that game, which

1603
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: is essentially a pick. I agree though, Miss Hubert too.

1604
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: On the defensive line. You give up way too many

1605
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 2: explosive runs last year. So they have a lot of

1606
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,879
Speaker 2: issues except that they could they'll maybe they'll beat Oklahoma

1607
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: again and then in that before we get to Kansas,

1608
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: which we probably won't spend much time on Texas Tech

1609
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 2: Matt Well's year three. Last year, you look at the record,

1610
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: pretty lucky. They were four to one in one possession

1611
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: games three and now in games decided by three or

1612
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: less against Kansas, Houston Baptists, and Baylor three and anguints.

1613
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: But I mean that's just so there's but there's gonna

1614
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: be some changes here. Tyler Schuck probably going to be

1615
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: your starting quarterback, coming in from Oregon, highly town of

1616
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: guy who started there twenty twenty. Their offense was just bad.

1617
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: This was not Texas Tech. This is poor offensive line play,

1618
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: poor quarterback play. You know, you had Colombia who ended

1619
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: up coming in for Bowman who just never looked right.

1620
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: Me would battle, but he's not, you know, starting big

1621
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 2: twelve caliboard Texas Tech quarterback Shug at least has that

1622
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 2: pedigree and more, you know, the stronger arm, and he

1623
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: can move. I mean that the potential is there. They're

1624
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: gonna change up their offense. Look, the AD came out

1625
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: and said that this is ridiculous. We needed we're Texas Tech,

1626
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: and they brought in Sonny Comby to be the offensive

1627
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 2: coordinator we talked about before. Sonny Comby, this is what

1628
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: the AD is thinking about. Texas Tak two thousand and

1629
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: four led the nation in passing yards. I mean, these

1630
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 2: are the quarterbacks that Texas Tech has used to have.

1631
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: And he threw close to five thousand yards, threw for

1632
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: over five hundred yards against the cow when to beat

1633
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 2: Aaron Ryders in the bowl game. So he's gonna come

1634
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: in and they want to throw it more. And like

1635
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 2: last year was just that not your older brothers. Texas

1636
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 2: Tech team defense wasn't bad. Defense is experience. It's not

1637
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: going to you know, win any Big twelve championships. But

1638
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 2: the questions are on offense here what can Comby do

1639
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: with Shuck coming in? There's a couple other questions here

1640
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: I have with and then the defense, there's some powerfive

1641
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: trenches are gonna need to step up in the secondary.

1642
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 2: That's the main question, and I have there, but they

1643
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 2: lost you know, Ki Shwan Carter. They also a lot

1644
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: of wide receiver talent. They bring in Troy transfer Geiger,

1645
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 2: who's caught like one hundred and fifty balls the last

1646
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: couple of years. But there's just no there's a lot

1647
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: of questions that receiver, especially since Izu Konma broke his arm,

1648
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: so he might not be ready for Houston or maybe

1649
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks they're running back. Thompson also

1650
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: had surgery in the spring. He might not be ready

1651
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: for Houston. I think that line is crashed or early on.

1652
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 2: So we'll see if this offense, which I have way

1653
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 2: too many turnovers last year to bottom ten and turnover

1654
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 2: of actual one projected turnover market. They couldn't finish drives,

1655
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 2: Ben don't finish and drives on each end. So does

1656
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 2: Comby come in and is he allowed to just go

1657
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: all out air raid with Matt Wells as he let

1658
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: him do his thing. I don't know, but that's what

1659
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 2: they're going to try to do. They average under thirty

1660
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: points for the first time since two thousand. Last year.

1661
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: Four of the ten games they didn't even get past

1662
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: twenty one. So the DEE was a big improvement. I

1663
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: mean they allowed almost a yard less per play than

1664
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: the year before. But this is all about the offense.

1665
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 2: I mean they lost Carter polk Vasher to the NFL

1666
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: at receiver, so there's some injury questions on offense. Shuck

1667
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 2: coming in. You know, he's gonna be working with a

1668
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, not all his parts in the spring and

1669
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: then this new scheme. And so I asked some questions

1670
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: about Texas Tech road games Houston. That's not a neutral.

1671
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: I think that's in Houston at NRG Texas, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Baylor,

1672
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: and then they do get Kansas on the road. Total five.

1673
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: I think it's right about right. What are your thoughts

1674
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: on the Red Raiders.

1675
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I echo everything that you have to say, So

1676
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 3: I mean I'll just add a little bit. I mean,

1677
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: Tyler Shug is a huge upgrade from Colombia and from

1678
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 3: Alan Bowman. I mean, Alan Bowman is the walking Madden.

1679
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 3: You know, hit your hot receiver with your ex button.

1680
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 3: I mean Alan Bowman was able to hit his number

1681
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 3: one receiver every passing play, but the second he had

1682
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: to check down, it just turned into a sham.

1683
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 2: So I think he was too afraid of getting hurt.

1684
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 2: He had all these have all he could.

1685
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 3: Do, Yeah, have a pierced long. I would be trying

1686
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 3: to hit my hot receiver too after I got the balls.

1687
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 3: So you know, I think this is a huge upgrade here,

1688
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 3: and sunny Comb be coming in after seven years of

1689
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: work at TCU. This team is going to pass all

1690
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 3: the time. Their identity is passed. Defense be damned, They're

1691
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 3: going to pass. I think it's a big improvement at

1692
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 3: the quarterback position. The defense is going to try to

1693
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 3: patch up holes through the transfer portal. But I mean,

1694
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 3: the reason why Matt Wells is on the hot seat

1695
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 3: is because they're outside the top one hundred and finishing

1696
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 3: drives on both sides of the ball. You're getting self

1697
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 3: yourself into position on offense, and you can't put any

1698
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 3: points on the board. Your defense isn't stopping anybody after

1699
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 3: they cross the forty yard line. If that doesn't resolve itself,

1700
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 3: maybe Matt Wells is Jordan Loves offensive coordinator in the

1701
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 3: NFL next year. I don't know what happened with that combo.

1702
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 3: It was on fire when they were together, and maybe

1703
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 3: that happens again. But Wells might not be in this

1704
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 3: job very long if they can't have an identity as

1705
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 3: a you know, passing team and at least play a

1706
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 3: little bit of defense. You can't let Houston Baptist, you know,

1707
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 3: get six hundred yards on you. So I mean the

1708
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 3: good news about them, there are more super seniors in

1709
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 3: this defense and almost anyone in the nation. But I mean,

1710
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 3: is that a good thing when you look at the

1711
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 3: overall numbers eighty third and success rate eighty fifth and

1712
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 3: havoc win total projection at five point one, win total

1713
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 3: sitting at five, So not a play on the bet

1714
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 3: MGM number. But I think there is a way to

1715
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 3: play Texas Tech, and since twenty thirteen, Texas Tech is

1716
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 3: twenty three and three when opponents are less than one

1717
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty yards of rushing. So all you need

1718
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 3: to do really is handicap how many yards of rushing

1719
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 3: and play them on a week to week basis. I'm

1720
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 3: not saying from a future's perspective, play Texas Tech, but

1721
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 3: twenty three and three when opponents are less than one

1722
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 3: hundred and three yards of rushing, I think if you

1723
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 3: can just handicap that that's going to work against Kansas,

1724
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 3: that's going to work against West Virginia. There isn't anything

1725
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 3: really particular special about the Houston running attack if you

1726
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: look at their advanced splits and who they bring back.

1727
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 3: But Texas Tech should be looked at on a game

1728
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 3: by gay basis, and if they can stop the rush

1729
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 3: of the opponent, it's a team you should be playing on.

1730
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 3: So that's the only way to play Texas Tech. And

1731
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 3: we'll see if Wells can survive being on the hot seat.

1732
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: They do have a sick punter, I do. We'll say

1733
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: that in Texas Tech in mac.

1734
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,759
Speaker 3: The Man so Hidden Yards, Baby Hidden Yards.

1735
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's close out the Big twelve with

1736
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not going to go to in depth

1737
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: there with Kansas or Betam GM one and a half.

1738
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: I'll let you go to death over over one and

1739
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 2: a half plus one fifty. So if you want to

1740
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 2: play over, at least you're getting plus one fifty. This

1741
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: team that's lost thirteen in a row. This is a

1742
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: team in two thousand and eight was the top ten

1743
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: team in the country. They've done nothing since. But it's

1744
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 2: crazy to see how far far this has fallen. Obviously,

1745
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: a coaching change here. You bring in Lance Leopold from Buffalo.

1746
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 2: This is his first year. He was hard one day

1747
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 2: before the spring game. It's gonna be a brand new

1748
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 2: stat He also brought a ton of new Buffalo transfers

1749
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: with him, so I brought a bunch of Buffalo players

1750
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 2: with him. Justin Bean from North Texas well, I never

1751
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 2: loved he transferred there. I don't know who's gonna end

1752
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 2: up starting a quarterback. You have Miles Kendrick, Jalen Daniels

1753
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: still there. The team just stinks. There's not much more

1754
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 2: you can say. I mean, some of my favorite stats

1755
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 2: on the shit. They allowed five point two sacks per game.

1756
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 2: That's the most by an FBS team in ten years.

1757
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 2: They allowed five forty plus yard punt returns. Nobody else

1758
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 2: allowed more than two. They left five. I mean, I

1759
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 2: bet them. I remember they had games where I was like,

1760
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: all right, they give a punt return. They would give

1761
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: up multiple punt return touchdowns. I forget what game that was.

1762
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Their punt return coverage, just the little

1763
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: things were also bad. So that's something that Leble can

1764
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 2: at least fix these things that will maybe help you

1765
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 2: cover right, Like when you're catching. They're catching twenty eight

1766
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 2: to thirty one with Kansas, and then you can't even

1767
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 2: trust them to do that because they give up two

1768
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: punt returns for a touchdown or THEYD fumble a punt

1769
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 2: or they'd get a punt flock. I mean, their special

1770
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: teams are just embarrassing. Yeah, they're switching back to a

1771
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: four to three D. They're gonna rely on transfers. It's

1772
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 2: brand new staff. I mean, what more can you say?

1773
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: Their away games are at Coastal Duke, Iowa State, Oklahoma State,

1774
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 2: Texas TCU. They're not winning any of those games. The

1775
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: games where I mean, maybe they could beat Due, I

1776
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, Duke is headed in the wrong direction,

1777
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: but don't think so. So if you're gonna look at

1778
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 2: their win total, I mean, listen, this is one of

1779
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: the worst teams. It's the worst Power five team in

1780
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 2: the country. You're gonna look at their win total. I mean,

1781
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm I'm at like one. But if you want to

1782
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: look at their schedule and be like, if I'm actually

1783
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 2: gonna beat over one and half, who could they beat? Well,

1784
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: they play South Dakota at home to open up the season. Yes,

1785
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 2: they could win that game and then to me, yeah,

1786
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: that's it. I mean, you know, you're it's Big twelve.

1787
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: It's candas if they're a little better, you maybe can

1788
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 2: steal a home game. You're counting on them, you know,

1789
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: stealing a game against Texas Tech or Kansas State or

1790
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 2: West Virginia to close the year. I don't say it,

1791
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 2: but I'm not laying minus one eighty under one and

1792
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 2: a half. I'm also you could find over over one

1793
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 2: minus one ninety five. So I mean no, this is

1794
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: just not play on. I'll end up fucking betting them

1795
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 2: during the week and losing money during the season. I

1796
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: got nothing more on on Kansas. What do you got?

1797
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 3: The best thing is when I see Stucky's Twitter timeline,

1798
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 3: he's trying to figure out when he's going to make

1799
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 3: his Kansas play. It some point he's going to make

1800
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 3: an Acorn play. He's going to make a UMass in

1801
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: a Kansas play. We just have to figure out what

1802
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: it's good. And he'll torture himself all week while he

1803
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 3: does it. So, uh listen, They're gonna be comfortably flavored

1804
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 3: over South Dakota. And the projection is our Action network

1805
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 3: projection is one point three wins. So I think the

1806
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 3: question I don't know. I can't give really a betting

1807
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 3: recommendation on going over under one and a half because

1808
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to take some other game besides that

1809
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 3: initial opener against South Dakota one hundred and twenty seventh

1810
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 3: and havoc allowed. Last year, there's only one hundred and

1811
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 3: twenty seven teams that played. How do you get to

1812
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: be one hundred and twenty seventh and havoc allowed? Like, literally,

1813
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 3: you're hiking the ball and just handing it over. I

1814
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 3: don't even know how you get that ranking. But you know,

1815
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 3: ku bottom three Big Twelve recruiting since twenty seventeen, Buffalo

1816
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 3: has been dead last and recruiting most of the last

1817
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 3: five years in the MAX. So at least Lance Leopold's

1818
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 3: coming in and he knows how to manage a worst

1819
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 3: recruiting class in the conference. He did manage it against

1820
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 3: the spread team since twenty seventeen, thirty one and fifteen

1821
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 3: against the spread for Lance Leopold at Buffalo. So if

1822
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 3: you want somebody that knows how to take chicken shit

1823
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 3: and turn it into chicken salad, Leopold's the guy that

1824
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 3: went down and found two star Jared Patterson hanging out

1825
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 3: in Maryland, brought him up to Buffalo and turns out

1826
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 3: to be one of the best running backs in the

1827
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 3: group of five, right, So I mean, and he was

1828
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 3: recorded and he was recruited as an athlete, not even

1829
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 3: as a running back. So in Leopold's first year a Buffalo,

1830
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 3: you have to ask, like, when he came in to

1831
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 3: that mess, what exactly happened? So they had won five games,

1832
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 3: and when Leopold came in, they won five games. But

1833
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 3: then the next season, in the year two, Buffalo went

1834
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: two and ten, So there was a dip when he

1835
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 3: was trying to establish his system. And I wonder if

1836
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen here with Kansas, if they

1837
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 3: maybe get two wins, but then they dip next year.

1838
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: As he tries to we figure out where the Kansas

1839
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 3: is even as a program, he brings in his offensive

1840
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: coordinator kddle Nicky comes in Andy Cottle Nicky. Buffalo was

1841
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 3: fifth and rushing rate per snap. So while I can't

1842
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 3: tell you whether you need to go over under one

1843
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 3: and a half, something inside of me wants to go

1844
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 3: over just for the fun of it. The torture for

1845
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,839
Speaker 3: the entire season Buffalo. I will tell you the Buffalo

1846
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 3: was fifth and rushing rate, And what that means is

1847
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 3: is Lance Leopold knows how to call games where they

1848
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 3: focus on the rush. The quarterbacks on this roster, Jalen Daniels, Juco, Miles, Kendrick, Transfer,

1849
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 3: Jason being whatever right, they're going to run the ball

1850
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,440
Speaker 3: a lot. So what that tells me is if oddsmakers

1851
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 3: do not adjust, totals that are in the forties and fifties,

1852
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 3: probably deserve an underlook because I don't think these games

1853
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 3: are going to go fast whatsoever. And if the defense

1854
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 3: shows any kind of life whatsoever, then that even helps

1855
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 3: the under even more. But this offense is not going

1856
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 3: to be fast. This offense is not gonna have tempo.

1857
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: They don't have Jared Patterson to sit there and get,

1858
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 3: you know, twelve yards per carry. So I like playing

1859
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 3: unders on the totals in every game. I do think

1860
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:46,560
Speaker 3: they're going to be improved. From a coaching standpoint, he

1861
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 3: can't get any worse. It can't get any worse.

1862
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 2: So that's all I think that's scary, is uh? Well,

1863
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: I think then we mentioned less miles. There's story is

1864
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: of less miles paying off. But who's he paying off?

1865
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: Or people selling weed? I mean, it's just bad, but

1866
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: he it's gonna take time if he's gonna try and

1867
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: turn this around at all. And if you want, if

1868
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: you want an ugly winting total one one and a half,

1869
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 2: I got one for you coming up. Hint, hint, you Mass.

1870
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 2: I might be betting over one and a half with

1871
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: U Mass and I think there's a much better shot

1872
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 2: they get two wins if they just need to beat

1873
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: like Rhode Island and h who is it Yale or

1874
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: Rhode Island and Yale, which I think there's a much

1875
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: better chance that Now the price isn't as good. But

1876
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 2: if you're only in it for I want to do

1877
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 2: this is hilarious for you Mass and or Kansas, I'm

1878
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 2: gonna be and you want to join me on one

1879
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: we are almost positive. Yeah, I'm gonna be betting you

1880
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: Mass over. So don't don't do Kansas for your paying

1881
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 2: bet of the year.

1882
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 3: Listen, ulm is at one, U Mass is at one

1883
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 3: and a half. We're taking one of these overs. I

1884
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 3: don't know which one.

1885
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: It is not Kansas, It's not it's not Kansas.

1886
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 3: Not Kansas.

1887
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 2: No, and I wouldn't be shocked that Kansas lost to

1888
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 2: South Dakota. And then you're dead, like they should win

1889
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 2: that game. You need them to win that game. And

1890
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 2: they lose that game, You're dead in the water week

1891
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: one on your wind total, all right, uh, and then

1892
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 2: they can't you can't even get your money back. They're

1893
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 2: gonna you're not to hold it. And wait, so we

1894
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 2: got we got more uh coming for you in the

1895
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: pay department before we get out of here. Let's quickly

1896
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: go three and out. We'll just do a quick recap

1897
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 2: for you.

1898
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: Let's make it a quick three and out.

1899
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: First down. Let's go favorite win total. Uh.

1900
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 3: I'll start.

1901
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, look, I thought the big twelve win totals,

1902
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: like I have with all of my notes and all

1903
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: the pre gonna previous for every conference. And by the way,

1904
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 2: we have a college football channel for just these podcasts

1905
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: college channels. A lot of times I'll started like three

1906
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 2: or four that I like. I leaning to this. I

1907
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 2: thought the big twelve. The numbers are pretty good that

1908
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 2: are out there. My my favorite wind total is only uh,

1909
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: like I kind of like bailor. I was thinking about

1910
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: Bailor over just too many quests with the offensive quarterback.

1911
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,560
Speaker 2: So the only other one that I show value and

1912
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 2: then like is TCU over seven and a half. So

1913
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: that's where I'll go for my favorite win total. Where

1914
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 2: you go, Yeah, no complaints there.

1915
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with a team on the under, even

1916
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 3: though mathematically I'm not supposed to. I project Oklahoma State

1917
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: at eight point one. The number is seven and a half.

1918
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 3: I'd love it if this number was eight, but it's not.

1919
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to go under seven and a half on

1920
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State, and the reasons are pretty clear. The offense

1921
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 3: is going in the wrong direction. We're swapping out coordinators

1922
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 3: year after year. We finished outside the top one hundred,

1923
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 3: and success rate finishing drives was ninetieth last year. That

1924
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 3: number is getting worse and worse, and they had better

1925
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 3: talent last year. So I'm not a big fan of

1926
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 3: what's going on in Stillwater. From an offensive perspective, your

1927
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 3: defense can only take you so far the end of

1928
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 3: the season. Listen, I don't like these out of conference

1929
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 3: games against Tulsa. Tulsa is a legit defense, and if

1930
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 3: your offense is sputtering, you could get beat at Boise.

1931
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: That's a bad that's a bad game from an If

1932
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 3: you have an offense it isn't working, that's not good

1933
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 3: place to go. Visit you in the year against three

1934
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 3: explosive offenses in TCU, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma. So I'm

1935
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 3: gonna go under Oklahoma State, not for mathematic reasons, just

1936
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 3: because offensively they are not figuring it out and they're

1937
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 3: going the wrong direction.

1938
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry Brett for that one. We will have you

1939
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 2: on there to make it up for you. We'll have

1940
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: you back on second down. Favorite future.

1941
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about the future. Every time you look

1942
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 3: at it, the changes because you looked at it.

1943
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 2: Just any way you want to go with it. We'll

1944
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 2: always do this for the converex wis you can do

1945
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 2: Heisman National title. I'll give two on the same team.

1946
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: It'll depend on the number that you can get. And

1947
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,640
Speaker 2: I would agree at Oklahoma State. Try to find not

1948
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 2: all the books a right, I try to find an

1949
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 2: eight juic date. I would like that too. I would

1950
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 2: recommend that the But I'm gonna say Iowa State, I

1951
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 2: mean I'm gonna be I've said it a bunch already.

1952
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 2: But if you could find like a forty to one.

1953
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm high on Colin. I'm high on ohioa

1954
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 2: state than Colin. I wouldn't go under thirty to one.

1955
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 2: I even wouldn't go thirty to one if there's like

1956
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 2: a thirty three, thirty five. But try to find a

1957
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 2: forty to one, which is what I got at CIRCA

1958
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 2: And then I also played minus one ten to make

1959
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 2: the Big twelve title, you know, so that that number

1960
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 2: has gone up a little bit. If you can find

1961
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: like minus one ten minus one twenty, I'll explain why

1962
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 2: on third down or if you just want to take

1963
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 2: more of a shot. And by the way, we do

1964
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 2: have somewhat of a natural hedge with TCU over and

1965
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 2: Iowa State making it to the Big total time. I

1966
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,560
Speaker 2: still think there's a chance that Iowa State, based on

1967
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: my numbers, that can make the Big Toal title. NTC

1968
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 2: you can go over seven and a half, but obviously

1969
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 2: with them playing at the last game of the year,

1970
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 2: good chance, you know, worst case scenario, mean you're just

1971
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 2: splitting those. So how about your favorite future of the

1972
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 2: Big Twelve.

1973
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 3: I would say to add on to that, I completely

1974
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 3: agree with all your numbers, very respectable numbers. Those are

1975
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 3: the Iowa State bypoints. I would say to make the

1976
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 3: big total championship game, you don't want to go past

1977
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 3: minus one thirty because you are going to have to

1978
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 3: hedge possible against TCU, and that's probably what the money

1979
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: line in that game is going to be a round,

1980
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't go past minus one thirty. Those are

1981
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 3: very respectable. I'm just going to go for the Granddaddy.

1982
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 3: This is the year Oklahoma's winning the national title. They

1983
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 3: finally have a defense that is going to be able

1984
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: to hang with the big boys of college football. This

1985
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 3: is a year in which Clemson fields a first year quarterback.

1986
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 3: I know DJ has experienced, Georgia has JT. Daniels, new

1987
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:25,759
Speaker 3: quarterback in a new situation.

1988
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: CJ.

1989
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 3: Stroud going on for Ohio State, Alabama, Rice Young. I mean,

1990
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 3: there's new quarterbacks, there's new stuff going on with all

1991
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 3: the power programs. Not Oklahoma, hottest team coming out of

1992
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, defensive returns. Almost every single player this besides

1993
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 3: Ronnie Perkins. Listen, this is the team. This is the year.

1994
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 3: It's Grinch's year, It's Riley's year. Oklahoma. Find it at

1995
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 3: eight to one, don't go any lower than that.

1996
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 2: All right, and then finally before we get out of

1997
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 2: here a third down, let's go with our Big Twelve

1998
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 2: championship prediction. I'm going to say, and I'll tie it

1999
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 2: back into interview with McMurphy, I'm going to say, you

2000
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 2: and I will have a It'll be a really interesting

2001
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 2: week leading up to TCU Iowa State winner Iowa State

2002
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: as one loss. I'm gonna say TCU has two losses

2003
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 2: and Iowa State on Senior Day wins that game. TCU

2004
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 2: wins the win total, Iowa State gets to the Big

2005
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 2: Twelve title This obviously everything works out, and then Iowa State,

2006
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 2: who loses who lost Oklahoma in the regular season, gets

2007
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: their revenge with the help of the Big Twelve officials

2008
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 2: as long as it's first and last play of the game,

2009
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 2: past interference on long bombs for Iowa State. But I'll

2010
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 2: say Iowa State I got I mean sticking the gum,

2011
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 2: so I say I would State beat Ockahoma in the

2012
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 2: Big Twelve title game.

2013
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 3: Before you go, I love you and I sitting here

2014
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 3: in July calling our shots on Thanksgiving weekend here, I

2015
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 3: absolutely agreed TCU Iowa State is going to be for

2016
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 3: the playing game for the Big twelve Championship. I'm going

2017
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 3: to take TCU to win. That game should be a

2018
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 3: low spread, definitely within six points with TCU as the dog,

2019
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 3: and TCU can be found out there eight to one

2020
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 3: to make the Big Twelve Championship game. That is your deliverable,

2021
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 3: that is your actionable deliverable, is that TCU should be

2022
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 3: played all the way down to four to one to

2023
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 3: make the Big Twelve Championship game. It's a number you

2024
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 3: can easily hedge out of against Iowa State in that

2025
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 3: season ending game. It's a great spot for TCU to

2026
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 3: catch Iowa State. They might be coming off a loss

2027
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 3: against Oklahoma. Who knows if Matt Campbell's going to be

2028
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 3: able to get up off the mat if they take

2029
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 3: a loss there against the Sooners and come up against

2030
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,799
Speaker 3: a TCU team that is just loaded at skill position,

2031
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 3: loaded at the edge position, loaded in places that you

2032
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 3: need to be to win this conference. So I'm going

2033
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 3: to take TCU to ruin the story for Iowa State

2034
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 3: and we'll see if the Big Twelve refs are going

2035
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 3: to give the flags to Gary Patterson as Oklahoma makes

2036
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 3: its exit from the conference.

2037
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's a beautiful thingy making predictions about Thanksgiving

2038
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 2: weekend right now, and everyone will forget if I'm wrong.

2039
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 2: There's no time in between. But thanks again to Brett

2040
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 2: McMurphy for joining us. Good stuff there, Thanks as always

2041
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 2: to Colin, Thanks everyone for listening. We'll be back next week.

2042
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: We're going to go big ten NACC two episodes in

2043
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 2: one day being released. Want will be on this channel,

2044
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 2: Want'll be on the new channel. More details to come

2045
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 2: on that and we will catch you all later.

2046
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 3: Cheers, Gas out