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Speaker 3: R to be here. Guys. This is the way, this is.
Speaker 2: The way, this is this is the way it would.
Speaker 3: Be done all the time.
Speaker 2: This is the way.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Let's talk about season three, Episode eight, Chapter twenty four,
Speaker 1: the Return, directed by Rick fam we had written by
Speaker 1: John Favreau. We pick up right after the events of
Speaker 1: the previous episode. First off, on behalf of the x
Speaker 1: RA Vision. I would like to apologize to ax Wolves,
Speaker 1: who is not a spy and also whose jet pack
Speaker 1: can absolutely get him into orbit up to the spacecraft which.
Speaker 4: Crazy crazy who I mean, we just only a few
Speaker 4: episodes ago saw the Mandalorians in the covert run out
Speaker 4: of gas chasing a bird.
Speaker 2: How did Haas Bisla manage to run out of gas?
Speaker 2: But Axwoves can fly into space.
Speaker 4: X Woves can basically has a hyperdrive on his back.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. My guys like up
Speaker 4: in the atmosphere and are the rest of the covert
Speaker 4: couldn't even chase the bird when it captured Ragnar.
Speaker 2: And it had many children at that point, like more
Speaker 2: than its stolen more than one child child. So this Axe,
Speaker 2: you could have been more useful.
Speaker 1: Well, I think there's I have two possible theories. One
Speaker 1: is that Axe and his crew they kept it tight.
Speaker 1: They were active mercenaries. They're working out in the world
Speaker 1: doing stuff for cash, and they had to be ready
Speaker 1: for game time in a way that Pause and the
Speaker 1: rest of them rednecking around by Crocodile Lake were not like.
Speaker 1: And then the second theory is that Pause is just
Speaker 1: a deadbeat dad who never who was just irresponsible number one,
Speaker 1: and you can see that by the fact that he
Speaker 1: didn't have his jetpet gassed up. And then number two,
Speaker 1: I kind of think that the reason that he was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna hold off the dart Trood.
Speaker 1: You guys get out of here. It's just he didn't
Speaker 1: want to raise his kid.
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, I blink believe. I mean that is brutal.
Speaker 4: You know what that is a brutal take on our
Speaker 4: guye as Vizla.
Speaker 2: He sacrificed himself the three for Toorian guys to save
Speaker 2: the Mandalorians.
Speaker 1: But you say not because he didn't want to pay Chiles,
Speaker 1: not even a word for his son, not even to
Speaker 1: tell my not even tell tell him, tell Ragno, I
Speaker 1: love him and tell him what a hero he's getting.
Speaker 1: Just like I'm out, I'll take him. You guys get
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 4: It was that was there has been some wild wild
Speaker 4: Did you guys also feel like I got so pregnant
Speaker 4: with the idea that ax Wolves was a spy?
Speaker 3: Or was it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, we were invested, but.
Speaker 4: I had a hard time believing he was saving the day,
Speaker 4: which unqueslatably he was doing. He is hero on Mandalor.
Speaker 4: And the entire time I was like this fucking guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, I was like, oh, getting old the
Speaker 2: Mandalorians to leave the ship. That's suspicions.
Speaker 1: And the way the captain of the ship gives him
Speaker 1: like a double tap, look like really like.
Speaker 2: What it looks out.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, here it comes, here comes with
Speaker 1: xbos like shoots them all in the back. It just
Speaker 1: never happened. Axe Wolves stand up died in the end.
Speaker 4: My apologies, Oh yeah, we're gonna hand out a lot
Speaker 4: of apologies today.
Speaker 2: I think absolute apologies.
Speaker 4: I will say. Unfortunately, unfortunately, we are going to hand
Speaker 4: out a lot of apologies, because boy, would I like
Speaker 4: what I have loved for one of these things to
Speaker 4: have been proven true, for one of these people to
Speaker 4: have been duplicitous.
Speaker 1: Yes. Back on the planet, bo is leading the survivors
Speaker 1: out of moff Gidion's base. She radios to the very
Speaker 1: very loyal axe Wolves before he's cut off by the
Speaker 1: atmosphere to say, hey, okay, use the capital ship as
Speaker 1: a decoy. Get all the warriors off the chips and
Speaker 1: down to the surface, so I'll talk to you earlier. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then she has to use a thermal detonator to collapse
Speaker 1: a tunnel because the dark Trooper armor is really really good.
Speaker 1: Back Uh, somewhere else in the base, Dinn breaks for
Speaker 1: you from his captain. You gotta have more guys on Dinn.
Speaker 2: Truly, this is an absolute strategical mistake. Do you have Mandalorian?
Speaker 2: Oh'm a guess who knows how to use it? Bout
Speaker 2: a Mandalorian every time. And also he has a full
Speaker 2: sensitive baby whose medichlorians are so strong you are trying
Speaker 2: to steal them.
Speaker 1: And MAV what are you saving them for? You got
Speaker 1: so many guys and you got baby guys.
Speaker 4: I was also confused throughout both last week.
Speaker 3: At the end of last week and this week.
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe MAF Gideon was not intrigued or interested
Speaker 4: at all that Grogu was there, Like the dude spent
Speaker 4: the first entire season chasing Grogu for his blood. They
Speaker 4: bring Grogu to his cloning base. He doesn't even taste
Speaker 4: full on playing hard to get. He's ignoring Grogu.
Speaker 2: No, not even.
Speaker 3: Like are you again?
Speaker 2: Just like and now is it? It's a Guru in
Speaker 2: a mech Yeah, so this is like not an easy
Speaker 2: thing to just ignore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, how is there not a scene where where
Speaker 4: Moff Gideon is like, is that Grogu in a.
Speaker 2: You put that baby in a gun?
Speaker 4: I would love it. I would love it if if
Speaker 4: if Werner. Herzog came in and was like, I would
Speaker 4: like to see the mech baby.
Speaker 1: Let me see the man.
Speaker 3: Let me see the mech baby.
Speaker 1: So Dinn takes out these dark troopers, and then Grogu
Speaker 1: arrives to kind of save the day when Dan is
Speaker 1: about to get choked out and then shut my head
Speaker 1: comes up, says no, no, no, crushes the pistol, and
Speaker 1: then is he what is he spraying on his dad?
Speaker 1: Is that like fire extinguisher fluid?
Speaker 4: I assume it was back yeah, the same way that
Speaker 4: I g eleven did Sorry Rosie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say I think he did it because
Speaker 2: that was heat and fire, but yeah, it's it's It
Speaker 2: was definitely back to And it was funny because Den's like,
Speaker 2: please stop. Oh.
Speaker 3: But it was also sweet because Grogu's trying to risk
Speaker 3: you his dad, and his dad's like, I'm okay, I'm okay.
Speaker 4: I should at this point apologize for bringing you into
Speaker 4: an active war zone.
Speaker 3: My child is Ragnar here no.
Speaker 1: But then THENDN says, Grogu, I'm gonna need you to
Speaker 1: be brave for me, because if we don't take out
Speaker 1: maf Gideon, this will never end. Are you with me?
Speaker 1: And of course baby Grogu' is like, oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: I just love that. Dinn is like, listen, we gotta
Speaker 1: murder this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was like, are you with me? My child,
Speaker 2: my small baby?
Speaker 1: We gotta kill You're gonna kill him? Like yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to You're gonna have to be brave
Speaker 4: grogu because today we murder.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen now. Din then Radio's Bow with the update. Uh,
Speaker 1: he and the baby are gonna kill maf Gideon Bow
Speaker 1: and the fighters escaped to the surface. They head to
Speaker 1: one of the night Owl hideouts, and it is at
Speaker 1: that moment that the Tie forces the TIE fighters and
Speaker 1: the bombers screaming in the sky to attack the capital ship.
Speaker 1: Jin radios Are five is like, I need you, buddy,
Speaker 1: We need you to SCOMP. Did anybody did anybody track them?
Speaker 3: I wrote it down, Scomp. I wrote it in my notes.
Speaker 3: I was like, what the hell.
Speaker 1: Verb, We're gonna need you to Scomp into the base
Speaker 1: and get me the location of mom Getdeon's commands letter.
Speaker 2: Is this scumping what we call when the droids do
Speaker 2: that little jet pack.
Speaker 3: Is specific interesting.
Speaker 4: Interesting, that might be true. I took it to mean
Speaker 4: like hack, I'm gonna need you to hack. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: pack into the system and blah blah blah whatever he said.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what he said to do, but you know,
Speaker 4: that's what I assumed it was.
Speaker 3: But it's such a weird word.
Speaker 2: It's so also like I feel like we still have
Speaker 2: never tapped in, you know, decades later, to the absolute
Speaker 2: amount of gadget the eye units have.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: They just always have what you need, whether it's a
Speaker 2: tiny little hand to electrocute something, a hacking. It's it's
Speaker 2: almost like being a green Latin. You have infinite will power.
Speaker 1: And shuts the R five for having the appropriate amount
Speaker 1: of gas in his jets.
Speaker 2: Times he's not making that Missay look.
Speaker 1: Like daddy visla so our five. Using his little jets,
Speaker 1: he floats down from the surface to the base and
Speaker 1: begins looking for the nearest port data port that he
Speaker 1: can use to scomp into the system. If that is
Speaker 1: the axe gets through the gets through the clouds, he
Speaker 1: makes it to the ships. He tells all the mandolarns, okay,
Speaker 1: get out of here. Suspicions drop and suspicion I will
Speaker 1: pilot the capital ship. And there's all these really cool
Speaker 1: uh like scenes of the Mandolarns, like skidding onto the
Speaker 1: ramp of a ship.
Speaker 2: I just want to say as well, I feel like
Speaker 2: they were looking at a lot of ease Iron Man comics,
Speaker 2: because while these Mandalorians are flying, there is so much
Speaker 2: time that it looks like.
Speaker 1: I wondered if they used like Iron Man assets.
Speaker 3: That's what I had the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, I bet you they did, right, they had to.
Speaker 1: It's just so much easy and it's so clean.
Speaker 2: This does not look rushed. This looks like you literally
Speaker 2: are seeing tens of people flying through aranizable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't have a lot of flying from past seasons.
Speaker 4: That's a brand new thing. So but they have a
Speaker 4: ton of metal suited character flying through the air.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm sure this is very.
Speaker 2: Similar position to that kind of Superman.
Speaker 1: I bet you it's Iron Man three assets and fight
Speaker 1: where Tony is fighting like all the.
Speaker 2: Suits multiple Man's.
Speaker 3: We cracked it, guys, we cracked it.
Speaker 1: We did. We figured it out.
Speaker 3: That is true. Facts.
Speaker 2: Cannon absolutely happened.
Speaker 1: So the Mandalorians are heading towards the planet and just
Speaker 1: then the tai bombers tie fighters come up and they
Speaker 1: start attacking the ship, where X Wolves is heroically piloting
Speaker 1: the ship without any kind of ulterior motive.
Speaker 2: They as he's gonna do it, he crashing.
Speaker 1: He is absolutely loyal to the cause. And again, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry X quove there.
Speaker 3: Honestly, X Wolves, thank you for your service.
Speaker 2: Look, actually we apologize, but I would like to put
Speaker 2: the blame for us suspect like suspecting you very directly
Speaker 2: on whoever chose to name the last episode the Spies,
Speaker 2: just saying I wait, so.
Speaker 1: I guess let's talk about this. So what were the
Speaker 1: Spies than R five n G sixty eight.
Speaker 2: I wonder if the Spies are like the Imperial Remnant,
Speaker 2: who are still you know, the zoom call, okay, the Imperials.
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 3: I think it's I mean, it doesn't.
Speaker 4: It doesn't add up because only because I feel like
Speaker 4: we all have spent so much time theorizing and trying
Speaker 4: to figure it out and came up with we also
Speaker 4: an apology to the night Owls very true, also as
Speaker 4: oh well, don't they know exactly what trap to bring
Speaker 4: everybody into it?
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's like, yeah, she.
Speaker 2: Literally command her whole life to rebuilding the Maglorians. And
Speaker 2: we were like, guess who knows how to make best
Speaker 2: that would be useful for gidiots?
Speaker 4: Guess who's selling out our people. But I will say
Speaker 4: once again and I listen, I love this show. This
Speaker 4: is like one of my love this show. But I
Speaker 4: would have liked for one of these things to be
Speaker 4: true because I would have liked one more layer of
Speaker 4: double crosses or all that just surprises.
Speaker 3: That's what I was looking for.
Speaker 1: And make it the night owls, I say, because acts,
Speaker 1: I get it, like he's almost too suspicious, and that
Speaker 1: also we just met these guys.
Speaker 5: That's fine also as well, you would have had a
Speaker 5: definite narrative satisfaction to show how Ax was really heroic
Speaker 5: and then pull the rug from underneath you and go, oh,
Speaker 5: act what it was that.
Speaker 1: It would have been fun. But that's okay. Back at
Speaker 1: the base, there's some really classic Star Wars stuff happening.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: You got Din and Grogu sneaking around an imperial base.
Speaker 1: It's just like the old days. You have an R
Speaker 1: unit hacking in guiding them along the way. They come
Speaker 1: to this the tunnel that we saw I'm off Gideon
Speaker 1: Emerge from when he went to go take that zoom
Speaker 1: call which is protected by a series of laser shields
Speaker 1: which are five needs to open one at a time.
Speaker 1: And it's the fight that unfurls here where you know,
Speaker 1: Din has to be like, okay, now open the next
Speaker 1: gate where he and then he's gonna fight two dark
Speaker 1: troopers there, and then open the next one. He's gonna
Speaker 1: fight two dark troops. Very reminiscent of the jin Obi
Speaker 1: Wan Mall duel from the Phantom menas at least the visual.
Speaker 3: Well you in those shields, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I feel like the Reds, I feel like this
Speaker 2: again is feeling very lost Jedi. I feel like there
Speaker 2: was a lot of lost Jedi echoes here with obviously
Speaker 2: the Praetorian gods and everything, but the Reds and the
Speaker 2: kind of like you got to fight a couple of
Speaker 2: troopers in this very dynamic way. I was a fan
Speaker 2: of this fight. It was a cool life.
Speaker 4: I liked a lot of the fights. I liked this episode.
Speaker 4: I thought had good a good variety of fights, you know,
Speaker 4: big sky like dog fight stuff. Yeah, practical on the
Speaker 4: ground hand to hand, the Bocatan fight with the Dark
Speaker 4: Saber and the and whatever Maf Gideon's staff is called.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but you know, I really liked the
Speaker 4: variety of stuff that this episode.
Speaker 1: And everybody got to whoop a little eggs, Like whenever
Speaker 1: we went back to the armor in the sky, just
Speaker 1: Molly whopping dark troopers. I was like, Wow, that was
Speaker 1: that's really cool. And I love that the.
Speaker 3: Armor is never like you know what for this, Give me.
Speaker 1: It's not happening, Give me the barbecue, the barbecue tools,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to town.
Speaker 2: It's also nice that they built up this idea of
Speaker 2: these Mandalorian partially Mandalorian armored troopers and then actually showed
Speaker 2: us them using their Malorian armor and Mandalorian weapons. That
Speaker 2: could have been very easy to skip over, but we
Speaker 2: really got that in Din with like the little lessus
Speaker 2: that shot out and everything. That was very fun.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and Maf Gideon had like the rockets that
Speaker 4: shoot out of his classic the Whispering Angels or whatever
Speaker 4: not Oh my god, please that's.
Speaker 3: The rose, please make it. Those what were they called
Speaker 3: whispering birds?
Speaker 1: Were the whispering birds, right, yeah, whispering.
Speaker 3: Birds something like that man.
Speaker 4: I wish it was called Whispering Angels, and they just
Speaker 4: had a delightful little sip of rose that came.
Speaker 3: Along with them.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, R five has to escape a gang of mousteroids
Speaker 1: who are loved that moment getting in his face because
Speaker 1: sirens like the.
Speaker 2: One came up and he shocked him and then he
Speaker 2: came up and he was just like up and he
Speaker 2: just flew up scumped.
Speaker 1: Away inside the command center. Didn't Grogu find all of
Speaker 1: Gideon's clones. He's been cloning himself, apparently to give himself
Speaker 1: versions of himself.
Speaker 2: The force session.
Speaker 1: Gives poor baby Grogu a mighty scare and.
Speaker 2: This is like eye opening scare, something in a tank.
Speaker 1: Boom, and so Den is like, fuck these clones, they
Speaker 1: all got to die, and he just.
Speaker 2: Killed my son.
Speaker 1: The night Owls then lead who again hearty apologies to them.
Speaker 3: Sorry, can I interrupt you?
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry Jon the question only because I feel
Speaker 4: like this beat where we see the mof Gideon's clone process,
Speaker 4: all of the tanks are full of Moth Gideon clones,
Speaker 4: and so I feel like this is a real change
Speaker 4: from what I have thought we've been building towards all
Speaker 4: this time, which is MAF Gideon wanted Grogu's blood so
Speaker 4: that he could participate in the making of Snoke and
Speaker 4: then openmately a forced sensitive Palpatine. Yeah, but this seems
Speaker 4: to say, no, that is not the case. He was
Speaker 4: using pershing to use Grogu's blood to make forced sensitive
Speaker 4: moth gideons.
Speaker 1: I think that's true.
Speaker 2: I do not think it takes away from It's just
Speaker 2: a little bit of a diversion. I believe that the
Speaker 2: people who are Project Necromancer, who he has been hiding
Speaker 2: this from, will inevitably find out he did this, and
Speaker 2: the technology will be used.
Speaker 3: But it just pushes it back a little. I think
Speaker 3: it just pushes it back a little.
Speaker 4: They're going to take all this and then use it
Speaker 4: to make exactly I think that that.
Speaker 1: Is if that feels right. And I also say on
Speaker 1: that Zoom call they kind of get in MAF Gideon's
Speaker 1: ass for like using pershing for stuff that is not
Speaker 1: related to Snoke, and later on Palpatine it feels like
Speaker 1: because it's like, you took pershing and you are doing
Speaker 1: all this weird stuff.
Speaker 2: And he's like, I don't even like cloning. That's your yeah.
Speaker 1: Clone guy after.
Speaker 4: He walked through a room of cloning, like he's like,
Speaker 4: what cloning?
Speaker 3: What you tell?
Speaker 2: My favorite thing about this is, like, I get it.
Speaker 2: It's almost too big to just immediately commit to kind
Speaker 2: of wreckconning and expanding on the sequel trilogies as we
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna most directly do. But it is
Speaker 2: actually a very hilarious motivation when you really think about.
Speaker 2: It's just some guy who was like, why I just
Speaker 2: want some fource sensitive clone versions of myself to make
Speaker 2: an army of me's And everyone's like, what would This
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do with Palpatine and he's like,
Speaker 2: just some for sensitive muff.
Speaker 1: Idiot, I can I ask one more question? Obviously, Like
Speaker 1: his plan was to create an army of clones. Uh,
Speaker 1: aren't all the guys in the Dark Trooper him, like
Speaker 1: all the or all the Dark Trooper dudes.
Speaker 4: Monkitie, I don't I mean you mean non for sensitive
Speaker 4: muffetting you know, I would say, and making clones.
Speaker 3: But they're just regular.
Speaker 1: Clones, right, these are the beta clones?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be interesting. My guess is they're just
Speaker 4: Stormtroopers who are loyal to him. Although he does mention, Well,
Speaker 4: what I was surprised by is that he said, this
Speaker 4: is the new evolution of the dark Trooper. And the
Speaker 4: dark Troopers were robots, right, they were so, but these
Speaker 4: are definitely people in suits, for sure.
Speaker 1: These are guys for sure. Uh, A lot, a lot
Speaker 1: to think about.
Speaker 6: And it's it is funny you bring it up, Jason,
Speaker 6: because he's said he directly says, well, you're the one
Speaker 6: obsessed with Clone hold.
Speaker 1: On and now it emerges that you were just cloning yourself.
Speaker 4: It's like a classic neg He's negging the shadow.
Speaker 1: It's great X ray vision will be back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: So the night Owls lead Bo and the warriors to
Speaker 1: these garden caves that they've living in, beautiful teeming with
Speaker 1: plant life, and again we're sorry to them. These guys
Speaker 1: have been living in caves eating moss.
Speaker 3: And we have been.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this cave looks really small. Hot to
Speaker 2: fight your way out of that when they have to
Speaker 2: on you.
Speaker 1: So the armor radio is in and she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: guess what the cavalies here. We're here. Uh, let's do this.
Speaker 1: And Bo's like, let's take back our planet. Love it.
Speaker 1: They all scream for Moff Gidion's. Basically, we get this
Speaker 1: delirious airborne battle that may or may not be taken
Speaker 1: from assets from Iron Man three. And I have to
Speaker 1: say this is I'm sitting here watching this, and it
Speaker 1: looks great, looks amazing all like the armor swinging away
Speaker 1: like bo with the dark saber out. We've never actually
Speaker 1: seen anything like this in Star Wars to jet back
Speaker 1: battling certainly nice on this scale, not at the scale.
Speaker 2: This definitely makes me believe we were talking about the
Speaker 2: likelihood of which Star Wars projects would go on to
Speaker 2: become real that this sequence and the amount that they
Speaker 2: committed to the armor and the Iron Man three assets
Speaker 2: makes me think that the Lave allegedly the Dave Felony
Speaker 2: wrap up of this live action kind of manned over
Speaker 2: Suska verse. I. This really upped my expectation of actually
Speaker 2: making it to the big screen.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm on board for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean imagine, imagine a big, huge dog fight,
Speaker 4: space battle or sky battle between ships and Mandalorians in
Speaker 4: the sky on the ship puts the being RN in there,
Speaker 4: let's go, put the ghost in there, Let's go.
Speaker 2: Come on, I'd love to see it.
Speaker 1: So Dinn and Grogu find Gideon, and Guinean is whining
Speaker 1: about his fucking clothes.
Speaker 2: He doesn't care about by the way, my clothes, my clothes,
Speaker 2: you swallowed them before they could take their first Shut up.
Speaker 1: Now I have one geography question here, So didn't Grogu.
Speaker 1: They get the location to the command center, they go
Speaker 1: through the laser guarded hallway to get to it, and
Speaker 1: then they find Gideon standing on what is basically we
Speaker 1: later find out right because as the fight unfolds, Bo
Speaker 1: looks down and sees them fighting. They end up like
Speaker 1: on the spaceport, you know, on the side of the chasm.
Speaker 1: It's open to the air. Why did we have to
Speaker 1: Why did then just fly down? Because they is that?
Speaker 4: Like, I fully agree the other thing that there's a
Speaker 4: little bit of confusion there too, which is he's uh,
Speaker 4: they get the information from our five. We gotta find
Speaker 4: maff Gideon's office right right here. It is, we're gonna
Speaker 4: we're on our way. They go through the gates. Everything
Speaker 4: maf Gideon we've seen in his office, he looks at
Speaker 4: a thing where Grogu and the Mandalorians who have who
Speaker 4: have individual.
Speaker 3: Dots on the thing. Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 4: I love that they have the ability to have a
Speaker 4: green and a red dot on screen moving exactly when
Speaker 4: they move, but there's no video surveillance in the entire base.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's the one of the best funniest things.
Speaker 4: Must Gideon leaves his He's like, don't worry, I'll deal
Speaker 4: with them.
Speaker 1: Hefe where's the office, guys, anyway, which part is the
Speaker 1: actual office? So then we get this big fight between
Speaker 1: mof Gideon and Dinn, and I have to I have
Speaker 1: to hand it to MAF Gideon. Moff Gideon can ball man.
Speaker 1: MAF Gideon gives Din everything he can handle. And then
Speaker 1: it's like so confident that he just throws Din over
Speaker 1: to the Praetorians and it's like, you take it. I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna get my sweat up because I can
Speaker 1: so easily kick this guy's ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, the suit definitely has hydraulics in it
Speaker 2: or something, right, it's it's it's an extreme the version
Speaker 2: of anything that we've seen before.
Speaker 4: I felt like they purposefully put in like these servo engines.
Speaker 3: The sounds of.
Speaker 4: His suit is like, uh has more strength than justush.
Speaker 3: It's not him powering.
Speaker 4: The suit it's the suit has power of it, and
Speaker 4: that's why he's so easily able to wipe the floor
Speaker 4: with ding jar In and Bocatan.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, and g of course cannot stand the sight of
Speaker 1: his dad getting about to get executed by these prectorians,
Speaker 1: which is when Grogu cries it is visceral and it
Speaker 1: hits me so deeply.
Speaker 2: Give that folios some serious money.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievad. I just find myself being like, how do
Speaker 1: they make this sound?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: How do they make his.
Speaker 2: Eyes place inside you a feral protective place.
Speaker 4: Well, then it does trigger a response in me which is, oh, no,
Speaker 4: why is he here?
Speaker 2: Like we are going to cover that, and even more,
Speaker 2: the end of this leaves me with more questions about
Speaker 2: Din's parenting skills. But yeah, why is he that?
Speaker 1: Because they have to take them off get in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, just leave the baby in the armor.
Speaker 1: Is he can handle him? He's worth too much money,
Speaker 1: he can handle himself.
Speaker 4: Send them up to the ship with the trader ax
Speaker 4: woves yes, in a.
Speaker 2: Little baby, we'll look off to him.
Speaker 1: So Grogu tries to intervene, but then the Paturnians are like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy is washed. Let's kill the baby first, because
Speaker 1: we can come back to this, and they pursue Grogu,
Speaker 1: who is recoiling and afraid, and it is so heart
Speaker 1: wrenching to like the side room, and now Dinn seeing
Speaker 1: this happen, is like, oh my God, like, no, this
Speaker 1: can't happen. Gideon is shooting him in the bag, He's
Speaker 1: lasting we around the neck. And as all of this
Speaker 1: is happening, Din is powerless to watch the blast doors
Speaker 1: close with the three Pretorians in there with this little babysit.
Speaker 1: But Grogu again, maybe I don't I wouldn't do it
Speaker 1: this way, but maybe Dinn knows what he's doing. Grog
Speaker 1: can handle himself. He flips out of the ig mech,
Speaker 1: which is getting cut to piece the love.
Speaker 2: That they were like throughout this season we were like, wow,
Speaker 2: we need to count of how many times this baby
Speaker 2: flips because they all like it's establishing that the baby
Speaker 2: can flip. And when I go to this episode where
Speaker 2: he flipped himself onto like the lighting Rick, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's why they kept reminding us he could flip. He
Speaker 2: can flip.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 4: They got it's a that's another they've got its control option.
Speaker 3: F Yeah, it just it just inserts a flip.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Bo, who is fighting up in the you know,
Speaker 1: all the Dark troopers up in the sky, looks down
Speaker 1: sees maf Gideon down there fighting Din you know, and
Speaker 1: is like, oh, there's a moff Guindion's office, and she
Speaker 1: slides down to join the fray. Now it's Gideon with
Speaker 1: versus Bow. And again you have to say it have
Speaker 1: to hand it to Gideon. Nobody can take him. He
Speaker 1: then wipes the floor with bow.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And all I have to say is we need the
Speaker 1: Mandalorians need to study what mof Gadon did with this.
Speaker 2: Is what I'm saying. Out of all of the technology. Look,
Speaker 2: we know that this technology is going to end up
Speaker 2: in the Imperial hands and we're going to get somehow
Speaker 2: Palpatine retuned. But what I want to know is why
Speaker 2: didn't anyone take the technology off this suit? Because we
Speaker 2: have never seen anything like this in Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Maybe against their religion to like mess augment the strength.
Speaker 3: With the but like the Imperial is it Finn wearing
Speaker 3: one of these suits?
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1: Thanks?
Speaker 3: Why you know, like, why aren't why aren't the Stormtroopers
Speaker 3: of the New Order?
Speaker 4: Is that first, the first Why aren't the first it's
Speaker 4: not the band New Order, That's why?
Speaker 1: Why was it? Why was Captain FAsMA so easy to
Speaker 1: take down?
Speaker 2: You know, it seems like a prime example because this
Speaker 2: suit is very FAsMA evocative.
Speaker 1: So in the side room now, because Bo is taking
Speaker 1: the side off the side office, because Bo is getting
Speaker 1: her ass whooped by mof Gideon, Din and Grogu team
Speaker 1: up to stomp out the Praetorians. Grogu's force abilities are
Speaker 1: really really evolved now. Also, he's quite nimble. See you
Speaker 1: come at the running running across the lighting fixtures there.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to ask you guys a question. Yeah,
Speaker 2: his force is evolved, but I'm guessing what do you
Speaker 2: think he doesn't choke anyone out he used to be.
Speaker 2: Now he's kind of moving people with the force. Do
Speaker 2: you think that's because he studied with the Jedi, like.
Speaker 1: He to use the They were like, yeah, that's dark,
Speaker 1: that's dark material. Please don't get lightning and chokes. Please
Speaker 1: don't do lightning or chokes because he.
Speaker 2: Used to be a powerful force chroker.
Speaker 4: Well, he was just I felt like in the past
Speaker 4: he was operating from just instinct.
Speaker 3: He was he was operating just he's from emotion.
Speaker 4: Rather, he was just things were happening around him and
Speaker 4: he was just reactive. But now he's spent. You know what,
Speaker 4: did Favro say that that two years? He was with
Speaker 4: Luke for two years or something like that.
Speaker 2: He's harnessed.
Speaker 4: So he's done something. Yeah, he's done more. And what
Speaker 4: we get out of it is he can move stuff
Speaker 4: with the force and flip and.
Speaker 2: Cool running my little muppet running.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, the little the little the little
Speaker 4: kermit feet were really great.
Speaker 2: It makes me so happy when I see a puppet
Speaker 2: with like, I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: So they take out the Praetorians, uh and then.
Speaker 3: Go love by the way, love seeing the Praetorians.
Speaker 1: It was really very exciting and can absolutely handle them.
Speaker 3: One of the.
Speaker 2: Best contemporary Star Wars visualizations and creations. They're really scary
Speaker 2: and their weapons are so cool.
Speaker 4: They're really really cool and also a great evolution of
Speaker 4: a of a something that in the in those in
Speaker 4: the old movies.
Speaker 3: Was just the cool. Those guys are red alwaysn't that neat?
Speaker 4: What a great I have the figurine, What a great figure,
Speaker 4: what a great what a great Kenner figurine or whatever
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 2: And then the booth it looks like a cool design, but.
Speaker 3: What is it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then in and Last Jedi they come in
Speaker 4: and are just so that scene is maybe visualization.
Speaker 2: It's one of my time favorite Star Feet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such.
Speaker 2: A great empory reintroduction. And to get to see them
Speaker 2: here again and showcase that brutality and that fight is
Speaker 2: just so good.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the ornamental nature of the Praetorians in
Speaker 1: the original trilogy isn't just because Palpatine was such a
Speaker 1: bad as he didn't really need him. It's like, just
Speaker 1: get me any guy.
Speaker 2: He was so powerful with the force, like nobody even
Speaker 2: knew that he was up to.
Speaker 1: She's not a bodyguard, Like I don't who's getting into
Speaker 1: this room anywhere. So then they go to they go
Speaker 1: to help a bow maf Gideon fighting Bow has her
Speaker 1: at his mercy, crushes the Dark Saver in his mighty
Speaker 1: armored up hand, which is here's the thousands of years
Speaker 1: old artifact. One of the most important objects in Star
Speaker 1: Wars history. I think you could fairly say legendary and
Speaker 1: one of.
Speaker 2: The most powerful optifacts.
Speaker 1: And it's they got to fix it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: I'm like, was it fake?
Speaker 1: Because it was. It had the heaviness to it, It
Speaker 1: had that to be.
Speaker 2: It was almost like he crushed the blade, which I
Speaker 2: just can't sort of comprehend how he'd even be able
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 4: I was surprised again because I felt like the story
Speaker 4: had been telling me he wants this blade back back, right,
Speaker 4: It meant it meant something to him that he had it.
Speaker 4: It meant something to him that he wanted it back,
Speaker 4: and that it seems so easy for him to just
Speaker 4: crush it and be like the Dark Saber is broken.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so true because if we think about it,
Speaker 2: he kept talking in the last episode about how he
Speaker 2: wanted to be the leader of it.
Speaker 1: Give me the give me the Dark.
Speaker 2: Mandlre. I've made these nightmare Man law iron Man suits,
Speaker 2: so like, let's do it. Lets you have that was
Speaker 2: and he just he just crushed it.
Speaker 1: I know that was until his favorite clones got trash.
Speaker 2: This is a temperatat Okay, Yes, he's smashing his toys.
Speaker 1: The way he says, my clone so mad about.
Speaker 3: It really is Jedi.
Speaker 4: I feel like, throughout their history are constantly losing breaking
Speaker 4: lightsabers all the time and then are having to go
Speaker 4: and remake a new one, get another Kayber Crystal, you know,
Speaker 4: build their lights and so that you get all these
Speaker 4: different lightsabers that different people are carrying. But it seems
Speaker 4: as though the legend of the Dark Saber.
Speaker 3: Is this is the one.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, yeah, this is the single one that's been
Speaker 4: going for I don't know, thousands of years.
Speaker 3: It's a vizsla, right, yes, it's it's yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: But you you might be onto something actually, because a
Speaker 2: lot of what we've talked about with this show is
Speaker 2: how we feel like with Gogu and Din, it's this
Speaker 2: idea of like the Jedi and the Mandalorian coming together
Speaker 2: and these two schools of thought. Maybe because Bo's always
Speaker 2: kind of been a rebel, maybe we will see how
Speaker 2: go on a journey to rebuild the Dark Saber. I
Speaker 2: think that.
Speaker 3: It's I think so. I think so just because it's cool.
Speaker 4: I think it's cool, and I think I think I
Speaker 4: think they didn't do anything to in breaking it. They
Speaker 4: didn't do anything to me that didn't feel like, oh,
Speaker 4: it can be repaired and it still has meaning.
Speaker 2: And then you know, you still have like the handle.
Speaker 2: So you've got something to go on from the original.
Speaker 1: So the dark savers gone Bo's helmetless musketting punches across
Speaker 1: the room. Meanwhile, x Wolves is radioing in and he's like, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm about to nine to eleven the base. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: coming in. I'm coming it hot. There's flames coming with
Speaker 1: this cattle ship. Amy gets straight to the base. So
Speaker 1: now there's a clock ticking on this little fight here.
Speaker 2: Also, can I ask you, is that the ship that
Speaker 2: at least twenty five thousand people spent painting.
Speaker 1: Of painting that by five gallons of paint.
Speaker 2: Do not tell anyone who's who's three generations of that
Speaker 2: family spent painting that.
Speaker 3: I think it's took it took thirty years to paint that.
Speaker 4: It also makes it impossible to use that ship covert.
Speaker 2: Yes, you always know who's coming.
Speaker 4: Oh Eve, an imperial ship, you can't sneak in anywhere.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, it's the imperial Oh wait, no, it's
Speaker 3: the man.
Speaker 1: It's somebody had like.
Speaker 2: Force sensitivity that was letting them know the future. And
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, this ship's only gonna loast like
Speaker 2: two weeks after we finish painting it, So let's just
Speaker 2: go out.
Speaker 1: Some off getting into after crushing the dark shads, Mandalorian's
Speaker 1: weak once they lose the trinkets, and Bo says no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Mandelins are stronger together, and here comes in and Grogu
Speaker 1: to help out. But I mean, I gotta say it again,
Speaker 1: even they all together are really struggling to handle Gideon,
Speaker 1: who is like throwing them around, eating blaster shots to
Speaker 1: the face. Grogu is like pushing him with the force.
Speaker 1: He's still hanging on. It's very NATed to be.
Speaker 2: A little bit more rough there with his That's my feeling.
Speaker 1: It is only the devastating impact of the capital ship
Speaker 1: follow by what could only what I only imagine is
Speaker 1: a massive nuclear explosion that finally takes down maf Gideon.
Speaker 1: But you wonder what about our heroes, what happened to them? Well,
Speaker 1: and in it what can only be described as a
Speaker 1: impressive he was saving it for that force display. Grogu
Speaker 1: has kept them safe inside this force bubble as the
Speaker 1: nuclear fires swirl all around them. The good guys. When
Speaker 1: Jason you were saying.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was just saying it.
Speaker 4: I feel like they are powering and depowering Grogu throughout
Speaker 4: the series Harry Match, you know, in the sense that
Speaker 4: like in season one, he can literally freeze a mudhorn
Speaker 4: in mid air that is fully charging forward, and here
Speaker 4: he can't seem to knock mof Gideon off the off
Speaker 4: a ledge, you know what I mean. And that's that's
Speaker 4: a bit of it. There's a bit of a confusion
Speaker 4: for me there as to how strong is he and
Speaker 4: when does he decide to exhibit it? And obviously this
Speaker 4: you're right, it takes a profound amount of force to
Speaker 4: hold them safe in a bubble while the fire rages
Speaker 4: around them.
Speaker 3: But you know that, I was also like, this is
Speaker 3: a wild this is wild. What's happened?
Speaker 1: Let me give it? Let me profer a theory here.
Speaker 1: We of course, we just mentioned how instinctively Grogu is
Speaker 1: force choking folks and his pushes certainly are quite powerful,
Speaker 1: but certainly not powerful enough to move Mafkidion. What if
Speaker 1: what if Luke's whole thing was like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: light side of the force. It's defensive mainly, Yes, so
Speaker 1: when he's strongest, when he is defending the people, because
Speaker 1: that's what.
Speaker 2: He's been trained as. I just want to say this
Speaker 2: sums up a problem for me. Look, I have just
Speaker 2: want to say, I have a rebellion tie. I love Jedi,
Speaker 2: I grew up in stars, but I have issues with
Speaker 2: the Jedi culture right, like and the way that they
Speaker 2: like train children for war, etc. But like, this to
Speaker 2: me is a problem. You spend two years with one
Speaker 2: of the most famous Jedi in the world and he
Speaker 2: basic dempowers you because like of the right way to
Speaker 2: use the force. This is why I know it's not
Speaker 2: Cannon but gray Jedi. That space where you can play
Speaker 2: with both sides. I think it's so powerful. I think
Speaker 2: that you are probably right, and that Luke taught Grogu
Speaker 2: to harness it for defensiveness. But I feel like protecting
Speaker 2: his dad. He still has that love for him and
Speaker 2: that power. I feel like I was expecting to see
Speaker 2: him do more, but I love to.
Speaker 1: See him do a little Susie.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was very very cool. Uh, you know, Canaan Jarris
Speaker 1: could never And also all right, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know why I said that. I'm so sorry, edicated, Actually
Speaker 1: you don't like to apologize. You're like it felt bad
Speaker 1: as it came out of my mind.
Speaker 3: Dare you malign I know.
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, but I will say one thing like that
Speaker 1: the bubble, Like he brings it down after thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: there's no way that you could bring it down after
Speaker 1: it would you'd probably be there for like thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Way more way more oxygen in the air would be
Speaker 2: burning them off the radioactive debris.
Speaker 1: Like everything I.
Speaker 2: Did, I did love one of my favorite moments, like
Speaker 2: visually it's such a good, funny little gag is like
Speaker 2: Bo trying to protect them with her tiny shields and
Speaker 2: she's like, I like, good for you, Bo, But it
Speaker 2: was never gonna happen. No, definitely not safe unless grogus
Speaker 2: like force filtering the air.
Speaker 1: I mean it was definitely like he was like a
Speaker 1: light cruiser into from them.
Speaker 3: Yes, they can see see.
Speaker 4: That's the thing is if they were in maff Gideon's office,
Speaker 4: like tuck.
Speaker 3: Tucked into the mountain.
Speaker 4: Somewhere, I'd be like, okay, the blast, they could shield
Speaker 4: themselves from the blast.
Speaker 3: But they are watching the light cruiser descend in front
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 4: Makes it's yeah, it makes no sense that they are
Speaker 4: left not just alive, but fully unscathed.
Speaker 1: Uh. Later on, the armorer blesses in a new geneneration
Speaker 1: over at the Living Waters that includes our friend Grogu.
Speaker 2: Was that Ragnar who she was blessing? He is, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was sorry about your dad.
Speaker 3: Never never, Yeah, it's it's Ragnar.
Speaker 4: But I know both because of his helmet and also
Speaker 4: because I watch everything with closed caption affections.
Speaker 3: And when he spoke. When he spoke, he.
Speaker 2: Was credited because I was like, oh, I see. So
Speaker 2: they're like, well, your dad's dead, so now you're going
Speaker 2: to get adopted into the mandlorin this is the way
Speaker 2: you Also, sorry, I just need this is actually from
Speaker 2: last episode, but I do need to say this because
Speaker 2: it relates to them adopting babies. What happened to the
Speaker 2: bird dragons because them they did eat them amazing discord
Speaker 2: Uses found a screen grab of them roasting the baby
Speaker 2: bird dragon things that both saved when she was like,
Speaker 2: I've got foundlings, So I guess if you're tasty and
Speaker 2: you're not a humanoid.
Speaker 1: That night, that night that all the tribes got together
Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, we got we'll make you dinner.
Speaker 1: It was they eat the baby.
Speaker 3: It's got it's it's either got to be that. That
Speaker 3: would be incredible that would be so incredible.
Speaker 4: You know what it would be incredible is if next season,
Speaker 4: because we all were like, you know what, guess what
Speaker 4: these Mandalorians are going to be riding helmets. Yeah, these
Speaker 4: these are going to be their mounts for when they
Speaker 4: retake Mandolin and blah blah blah, And wouldn't it be
Speaker 4: funny if they.
Speaker 3: Did do that next season? But there was only two
Speaker 3: they just ate the one.
Speaker 2: I guess Ragna should be feeling lucky that they didn't
Speaker 2: just eat. And when when.
Speaker 1: Past died, so didn't Din steps up? And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: my my founding Grogu, I think you know we he
Speaker 1: beat Moff, Gideon, saved Bow and my life. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: let's make him a true apprentice now and baptize him
Speaker 1: in and then, in what can only be described as
Speaker 1: an ablest policy, the Armor is like, well, he can't speak,
Speaker 1: so talk about it. Although I will say it from
Speaker 1: a positive point of view, it is also clear to
Speaker 1: me from the Armorer's voice performance, an excellent voice performance,
Speaker 1: that what the Armorer was trying to do was to
Speaker 1: get Dinn to formally adopt Grogan.
Speaker 2: And it is also I think like a matter of consent.
Speaker 2: She doesn't want someone to just be bought into the
Speaker 2: Mandalori infection. Who can't agree that he wants to be that.
Speaker 1: Though it's very clear that Grogu, I mean, his the
Speaker 1: way his face falls when it's like, sorry, you can't speak,
Speaker 1: he's just like I was like, come on, I was.
Speaker 2: I was like, is he gonna like do the creed
Speaker 2: and yo to speak? Like, is he gonna do it?
Speaker 2: But are we going to see the baby talk?
Speaker 1: I could.
Speaker 2: I didn't see where he was.
Speaker 3: Going, Rosie.
Speaker 4: I thought that I had At one point, they at
Speaker 4: one point close up on him right when he right
Speaker 4: when it's right when normally he would talk because they're
Speaker 4: saying he can't talk, he can't talk, he can't talk,
Speaker 4: And then they close up on him, and I was like,
Speaker 4: is he about to talk?
Speaker 3: If he talks, I'm gonna fucking flip.
Speaker 1: If he says can the way this is he says that.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I don't. I'm curious what you what
Speaker 4: you both think? I do not want Grogu to talk, period.
Speaker 1: I think that right now, no, And I think obviously
Speaker 1: you know, like Yoda was nine hundred, so we got
Speaker 1: potentially fifty years before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, and and Grogu is what
Speaker 4: now what they say he was fifty when they got him.
Speaker 4: From now he's fifty two, fifty three years old. Okay,
Speaker 4: so you think in the last three years he's advanced
Speaker 4: exactly much for a being that live to nine hundred.
Speaker 2: He's the baby. We love the baby also as well.
Speaker 2: That can be something they can work up to. When
Speaker 2: he inevitably shows up in the Ray movie as one
Speaker 2: of her Judi students, like, somewhere down the line, we
Speaker 2: may be.
Speaker 3: I have no problem, you know, I keep it, keep it.
Speaker 1: The baby sou Grogu is re christened Din Grogu, a Mandolin,
Speaker 1: an official Mandalin apprentice. Now Din and Jr. As part
Speaker 1: of the apprenticeship, have to travel the space ways together
Speaker 1: as as Dinjarren shows his newly adopted son Ding Junior
Speaker 1: the ways of the Mandolorin so that it can become
Speaker 1: a full fledged Mandalorian. And as this is happening, the Misosaur,
Speaker 1: which is slumbering below the waters, opens its eyes. There's
Speaker 1: this wonderfully emotional moment where Bo relights the Great Forge
Speaker 1: and the Mandalorins are back. Great big cheer led by
Speaker 1: axe Wolves, sorry ever.
Speaker 2: Down Okay, So when the baby just before the mythso
Speaker 2: wakes up, the baby looks into the water and almost
Speaker 2: like touches it with the force, like he knows the
Speaker 2: mythisaurs down there.
Speaker 3: He can he can sense the mythosaur down there.
Speaker 4: And I think that's why the Mithisaur opens its eyes
Speaker 4: as if it is right, I don't hearing sens or something. Yes,
Speaker 4: so should we presume although I guess Grogu has had
Speaker 4: has had contact with other animals some sort of like
Speaker 4: so that maybe he has a the force allows him
Speaker 4: to connect with this mythosaur. And I did really think
Speaker 4: he would get more mythosaur.
Speaker 2: I thought that the Mandalorians being back on Mandalor, I
Speaker 2: thought we would see bo on the mythosaur with the
Speaker 2: dark saber fighting Gideon.
Speaker 4: I feel like the same, and I feel like all
Speaker 4: of the you know, all of the chatter around the
Speaker 4: watching of the show successfully wrote a shadow version of
Speaker 4: the season that I'm very intrigued by, where the Armorer
Speaker 4: or ex Wolves are duplicitous double agents, where the Mythhisaur
Speaker 4: comes out and Bocatan gets to ride it, like all
Speaker 4: this stuff that I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, time to team up for our fan fit.
Speaker 1: I will say that it's the you know, a lot
Speaker 1: probably happens off screen obviously, but it does also seem
Speaker 1: as if either A bo is not really shared the
Speaker 1: Mithisaur news or b the Mandalorids are just bewhelmed about
Speaker 1: the Mythosaur's back, like we talk about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my gut says I. I believe the shadow version
Speaker 2: of this was at least probably kicked about at least
Speaker 2: a bit about the mythisour being in the final episode.
Speaker 2: Now we know that there's going to be a movie.
Speaker 2: I think you saved that for the movie. Who's gonna
Speaker 2: ride the Mythosaur? Is it going to be both? I
Speaker 2: think Grogu is rising up the mythosaur riding ranks now
Speaker 2: that he's connection.
Speaker 4: And you also have to figure the Mythosore has it
Speaker 4: done right? That's a very expensive VFX.
Speaker 2: Oh exactly, And it's like something that canon wise, and
Speaker 2: the amount of time that we've heard about it but
Speaker 2: never seen it to really have the reveal is huge.
Speaker 2: And even though a finale of a big TV show
Speaker 2: like this would be a great place, I can understand
Speaker 2: why they'd want people to see that on Imax in
Speaker 2: the most.
Speaker 4: Expensive Honestly, probably why we didn't see those birds again
Speaker 4: is because they are completely digital and if they're not
Speaker 4: doing something integral to what's going on, then why are
Speaker 4: we going to waste?
Speaker 3: Why burn the money on them?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Now you could potentially take some of the Scott Lang
Speaker 1: Giant Man assets from you know, no from or from
Speaker 1: the From Endgame. Okay, so I was going to say,
Speaker 1: and reskin it from Missaur.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would be really easy. That's no
Speaker 2: harm sentence. Okay, So what about this then? If we're
Speaker 2: talking about reusing assets, will the asset of Grogu saving
Speaker 2: them in mof Gideon's office, is that going to be
Speaker 2: used when we first see Sue Storm it will just
Speaker 2: be the same bubble that's like the trade back.
Speaker 3: That'd be great, Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Definitely, they're definitely testing out how to do the Fantastic
Speaker 2: Four powers.
Speaker 1: In these In these movies and shows, I will say
Speaker 1: I did sense small moments where you you could kind
Speaker 1: of put your finger on the moment where it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: here's where they tried to save money, you know, like
Speaker 1: when Bo is leading the charge. She ignites the dark
Speaker 1: sab has it out. They only showed like her hand
Speaker 1: and about an inch of the handle, like, which is
Speaker 1: a weird shot.
Speaker 2: Right to not show the sword like an Authorian style moment.
Speaker 1: They say his five grand and don't show the whole sword.
Speaker 2: Get to go home on time today, just just to
Speaker 2: be a little about the sword.
Speaker 1: So then didn't Grogu go and visit our good friend
Speaker 1: Captain Teva. I love to see him, love to see
Speaker 1: him at the tropical. I'm like you already stay down.
Speaker 4: All I wanted, I like screamed, please let Zeb meet Grogu.
Speaker 1: All I want.
Speaker 3: All I wanted was for Ze to meet Grogu in
Speaker 3: the bar. Please just give him.
Speaker 2: A little like nod while the baby's like eating his
Speaker 2: snacks or something.
Speaker 1: So the New Republic is, of course stoked that the
Speaker 1: Mandos took out Gideon and for free, like they cost
Speaker 1: them zero credits for this. Uh, and then Mando pitches
Speaker 1: Captain on a team.
Speaker 2: I don't even get me thought.
Speaker 1: He basically says, listen, Grogu and I will hunt imperials
Speaker 1: right off the books. Okay, uh, this is not a
Speaker 1: New Republic operations, just you and me talking. You slide
Speaker 1: us some credits under the table. We'll take you.
Speaker 3: We'll do the wet work. Me and my child will baby.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, He pitches it as he
Speaker 2: says to him, I've got a baby. Now, I've got
Speaker 2: some I've got something. He's like, I can't be doing
Speaker 2: that dangerous stuff. I'm just gonna become an assassin from
Speaker 2: remnants and bring my child. That is more dangerous than
Speaker 2: being a bounty Hannah.
Speaker 1: Now, I I wonder if what he was saying was
Speaker 1: I can't be doing this immoral bounty hunting and where
Speaker 1: it's just like I'm bringing everybody in. I'm bringing everybody in, droys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have different kind of aliens that.
Speaker 2: He wants to just and of the legitimacy of people.
Speaker 1: That just like didn't pay their parking tickets, Like, now,
Speaker 1: what if I just go after peace people who were
Speaker 1: probably bad? I mean we're talking about imperial Yes.
Speaker 4: No, I think that's when because doesn't he say something
Speaker 4: like I wanted to, I can't go back to being
Speaker 4: just a bounty hunter.
Speaker 3: It needs it needs to matter or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so uh and he says, listen, you
Speaker 1: can you can in terms of payment, which you are
Speaker 1: going to pay us because we're going to work for this,
Speaker 1: but you can give us an advance. And that advance
Speaker 1: is that ig head that my son just spotted above
Speaker 1: your mar which is by the way, quite horrific to
Speaker 1: just have a droid anyway. Uh. And then closing a
Speaker 1: loop on the memoryship plotline.
Speaker 2: When we say it was over, let's give an apology
Speaker 2: to didn't because we really thought he was distracted.
Speaker 1: We thought that they just had forgotten about the memoryship.
Speaker 1: But it's back back on Navarro. Grief, our good friend,
Speaker 1: High Magistrate Grief Karga gives Mando the keys and the
Speaker 1: deed to his beautiful news a piece of land. And
Speaker 1: by the way, with all the Mandalorians back on Man,
Speaker 1: he now has like this huge That's what.
Speaker 4: I was wondering, did he get the whole land that
Speaker 4: Greek because that was such a weird moment in the
Speaker 4: in the season where they they they rescue or they
Speaker 4: save Navarro. The Mandalorians intercede in Navarro with the pirates.
Speaker 4: They are awarded this enormous piece of land and they
Speaker 4: immediately depart.
Speaker 3: They're given they're given up.
Speaker 4: They're given a home area to make their to make
Speaker 4: themselves at home, and they immediately go to retake mandl
Speaker 4: Or totally fine. But when they came back, did is
Speaker 4: that where Dnjarren is?
Speaker 3: Or did? Did he did?
Speaker 4: It was with Grief Cark like, I'm so sorry man,
Speaker 4: after you guys left, I gave that away.
Speaker 3: So I've just I've just got.
Speaker 1: This little cabin right. That was a deal for the
Speaker 1: existing Mandlarn people, like, I'm sure you understand, like I
Speaker 1: have to just like a thousand square feet I had
Speaker 1: to take some of that back. But no, I think
Speaker 1: that is all. I think that was all of their land.
Speaker 2: I think it was. It does look like very barren
Speaker 2: and not a bad way.
Speaker 4: But like that, it's very much like the end of
Speaker 4: a Western you know, like it's like very much like out.
Speaker 3: On the planes.
Speaker 4: He kicks up his feed he's got there's even like
Speaker 4: there's even like, uh, you know posts in front of
Speaker 4: the house too that you would attach your horse.
Speaker 2: And they do the little favor.
Speaker 1: So then Manda says, well, Grief, guess what I have
Speaker 1: a gift for you. Check this out, And next thing
Speaker 1: we know, we see a refurbished I G eleven.
Speaker 4: First we see gens. First, we see the works.
Speaker 1: Who worked very hard on this right, and here we
Speaker 1: see refurbished I G. Eleven walking up saying good evening citizens.
Speaker 1: I am I G eleven your new marshall. I am
Speaker 1: here to serve and protect the Citrus citizenry. And the
Speaker 1: crowd goes, wow, grief, Cargon is chirt, And I just
Speaker 1: have to say, what's We've talked a lot about the
Speaker 1: kind of questionable politics around droids here in this world.
Speaker 1: This is very funny to me that everybody is like,
Speaker 1: we've the bottomize and other folks, he will only follow order.
Speaker 1: Is this droid no longer has any free will? And
Speaker 1: everybody's like yes, yes.
Speaker 2: It's especially fucked up because like Dynn literally was like,
Speaker 2: that's my friend. That's the only droid I trust. I
Speaker 2: need his memory chip back because I trust him. And
Speaker 2: then he was like, I don't need imaturally, you guys
Speaker 2: have him. He can just be all like please seven.
Speaker 1: And he very specifically says, and I forget what the
Speaker 1: exact wording is, but I G. Eleven basically says, listen,
Speaker 1: I will just follow orders.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I Am not gonna go and do weird things and
Speaker 1: bounty hunt on the side. I am just strictly the
Speaker 1: Marshall and it's great to see you. Big cheers from
Speaker 1: everybody and listen. I guess we until more information emerges
Speaker 1: and we know exactly what was doing with Ig eleven,
Speaker 1: we can't really say. But it did feel a little weird,
Speaker 1: you know what, from the dead.
Speaker 4: That's what I couldn't figure out, was though, like I
Speaker 4: didn't need Ig eleven to come back, like I wasn't.
Speaker 3: Frankly, to me, I that moment where Ig eleven.
Speaker 4: Sacrifices himself so that they can escape the lava flow,
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, I loved and was such an
Speaker 4: incredibly moving So the idea that, oh, now we have
Speaker 4: to bring him back, but not bring him back as
Speaker 4: the character we loved, but bring him back as a
Speaker 4: mind wiped like automaton. I was like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: quite get I feel like this because also because it's
Speaker 4: the last beat, I feel like we're supposed to be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: my guy, you know, And I was like, yeah, why
Speaker 4: exactly it is?
Speaker 2: It is especially weird because didn't even says to Teva,
Speaker 2: he says, you know, oh, that reminds him of someone
Speaker 2: he used to know, so he even has that emotional thing,
Speaker 2: but then they just turn him into like it's like, also,
Speaker 2: wouldn't you need a certain amount of sentience to be
Speaker 2: a marshal that is not like a I.
Speaker 1: Mean, listen, we just watched two episodes of grog riding
Speaker 1: around in the carcass of Dinn's professed friends.
Speaker 2: We're doing comedy beats with the soup board. Yes yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: no no.
Speaker 4: How great would it have been if, like I g
Speaker 4: eleven is there like I'm your new marshall, welcome, thank
Speaker 4: you people or whatever, and Groglu's just cling at his
Speaker 4: chest trying to get in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he just pops out of the chest and
Speaker 2: he's like yes, yes, yes, and it's Gregor.
Speaker 1: I hope they do get him a new little mech
Speaker 1: because he really seemed to enjoy it, and he took
Speaker 1: to it that Matt he was very good at piling
Speaker 1: in it. And then we get to the end where,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously a very a wonderful Western beat. There's
Speaker 1: so much classic Star Wars stuff here with you know,
Speaker 1: all the kind of thematic beats, and then here leaning
Speaker 1: into the Western themes that have always been there. President
Speaker 1: of Star Wars, we see the home on the range.
Speaker 1: Jason mentioned the post where you would tie up your horse,
Speaker 1: tie up your blur.
Speaker 2: Greg who's playing with a little frog in the cree
Speaker 2: eating definitely.
Speaker 1: And then Dan, you know, kicking up his feet, taking
Speaker 1: a much needed rest and relaxation. And it felt like
Speaker 1: a very hard and definitive end felt this chapter of
Speaker 1: the Mandalorian Who knows what comes after? Well, I think,
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 3: Well, I think you know.
Speaker 4: I think that you know this season and you know, frankly,
Speaker 4: and I love again, I love this show. I've loved
Speaker 4: spending all of this time both watching these episodes, waiting
Speaker 4: until midnight every Tuesday night and just rushing these episodes
Speaker 4: and being really engaged and delighted by so much of
Speaker 4: what they've done, confused and confounded at some of the
Speaker 4: other things that were done.
Speaker 3: But I definitely think that's.
Speaker 4: A lot of the kind of unevenness or or any
Speaker 4: of the kind of stuff that people have been confused
Speaker 4: by or or or weren't quite tracking were part and
Speaker 4: parcel of a much different version of the show this season.
Speaker 3: This season was definitively a heavily.
Speaker 4: Serialized narrative, whilst one thrust of a story with lots
Speaker 4: of characters, and I feel like at the end, when
Speaker 4: when the armor is like now you have to the
Speaker 4: armorer basically says now next season you can go on
Speaker 4: your adventures exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's what they have a Villain of the Week.
Speaker 3: And I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I think the setup is now they're gonna now they're
Speaker 4: looking out. They don't We're not gonna be like with
Speaker 4: them on mandal or we're not gonna be inside of
Speaker 4: that story anymore. I think that chapter is done and
Speaker 4: the next chapter will open up, probably as it relates
Speaker 4: to them. My guests is Dinn and Grogul will be
Speaker 4: enlisted in the Ahsoka.
Speaker 3: Live Action Rebels Crew throng narrative.
Speaker 4: Right, They're gonna somehow be sucked into that story that
Speaker 4: is the result of whatever happens in ah Soca.
Speaker 2: That's my hope, at least I think that's true. So
Speaker 2: do you think, and this is for both of you, like,
Speaker 2: do you do you think we'll ever get another season
Speaker 2: called the Mandalorian, because that's not That's what I'm not
Speaker 2: sure of. I think we'll get Ahsoka. I think this
Speaker 2: will tie into it, But you know, Is it going
Speaker 2: to be like Din and the Baby? Is it going
Speaker 2: to be like Grogu? Is it?
Speaker 4: I think just for marketing, I think just on a
Speaker 4: craven business level, the Mandalorian is too big a property
Speaker 4: like Comparatively, the Mandalorian is enormous and their flagship and
Speaker 4: is huge for them versus a show that I know
Speaker 4: we all just were obsessed with and or my understanding
Speaker 4: is underperformed for them. So yeah, I think they will
Speaker 4: keep putting, they'll make a Mandalorian show. But I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be surprised if there's a season like this season at
Speaker 4: some point where a Mandalorian season is where Din and
Speaker 4: Grogu are side characters again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you see them rebuilding of Mandalori.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or you see them inside of the Rebels crew
Speaker 4: doing something that they're you know, they've signed on to
Speaker 4: do with them. You know, they they could be, they
Speaker 4: could both be, which I like, And this makes it
Speaker 4: a very creatively interesting show, which is you can tell
Speaker 4: individual stories. You can tell the case of the week,
Speaker 4: Monster of the Week stories for a while, but then
Speaker 4: you can also make ensemble based shows in which Din
Speaker 4: and Grogu are just part of a larger ensemble and
Speaker 4: that I love.
Speaker 2: Yeah do.
Speaker 1: We later find out that Din and Grogu were round
Speaker 1: for the big battles in the most recent Star Wars trilogy.
Speaker 1: How do they how do they in your mind theorizing now,
Speaker 1: how do they explain away the lack of attendance in
Speaker 1: the big, big fight scenes from Grogu and Din.
Speaker 2: I wonder if they build in some kind of story.
Speaker 1: Because I ask because I I was a little bit
Speaker 1: worried they were gonna killed in at the end of
Speaker 1: the d the fight was non zero worried, like I.
Speaker 2: Had the feel just also as well, like Pedro's busy.
Speaker 1: Comments about the comments from the showrunners about this is
Speaker 1: actually an exact about help well, this is the Mandalorian
Speaker 1: refers to them, is not just it. So I was
Speaker 1: kind of worried.
Speaker 4: It's also notable in no live action, he's not the
Speaker 4: helmet doesn't come off at all exactly. And that's that's
Speaker 4: a first this season is the first time we right
Speaker 4: because at the end of both.
Speaker 2: So I think there was a lot of people even
Speaker 2: wondering what that meant on a business level of being
Speaker 2: a leading person who doesn't have your face shown at
Speaker 2: any point in any episode of a season, so it's
Speaker 2: definitely interesting stuff. I think that they will probably do
Speaker 2: a story beat that says, Grogu is the future of
Speaker 2: the Force. Grogu is the most powerful, a mega level mutant,
Speaker 2: and we have to hide him from Palpatine from everyone else,
Speaker 2: and then him and Dinn will be hidden somewhere off
Speaker 2: on a moon or something, and that's why they weren't there.
Speaker 2: But also you could imagine him being kind of retroactively.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, he was behind a tree, like doing
Speaker 2: some forced stuff now.
Speaker 4: You also, it also opens up the question to where
Speaker 4: why isn't Ezra part of Yes, part of raised Big
Speaker 4: Big Why is part of Ray's story?
Speaker 3: He would truly be like a senior Force user.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: My hope is that there are very cool, very creative
Speaker 4: ways to tell those stories. Wouldn't it be what if
Speaker 4: the reason that they're not is because Ezra and Grogu
Speaker 4: are What if Grogul becomes like Ezra's padawan and they go.
Speaker 1: On it exactly exactly?
Speaker 2: You know, No, I love that idea. And now that
Speaker 2: we're in this outer rim space and this wider ideas
Speaker 2: of the galaxy, there are multiple different conflicts happening. It's
Speaker 2: not just what we know from the main timeline and
Speaker 2: the main the main trilogy. So I think there's definitely
Speaker 2: a space. And we've been saying it's one of the
Speaker 2: best things. We all love the animed stuff. They're start
Speaker 2: to do with these live action shows what they've always
Speaker 2: done with animation, which is expand on and add context
Speaker 2: to these moments that make you say, oh, why did
Speaker 2: that happen? Or why wasn't so and so there. So
Speaker 2: I think in Asoka especially and probably further seasons of
Speaker 2: the Mandlaurian, we will get those answers. Where was Ezra,
Speaker 2: where was Grogu? How do these things tie in? And
Speaker 2: why weren't they a part of these stories that came after?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 3: Huge? Huge?
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts?
Speaker 4: My final thoughts are I really enjoyed it? I thought,
Speaker 4: you know, again, this is one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 4: I would I would cut off my arm to be
Speaker 4: on this show.
Speaker 3: I would. I want to.
Speaker 4: I would love to be. Star Wars is my stories,
Speaker 4: you know, like this is. I'm fifty. I grew up
Speaker 4: on these movies from the time they were coming out
Speaker 4: in theaters, the original trilogy. These are my movies. These
Speaker 4: are my stories. This is what I'm This is a
Speaker 4: world that I love being inside of.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's it'll happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I was gonna say it's inevitable.
Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of improv world people that have
Speaker 1: already played on the show is quite notable. It is
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh no crazy Kevin Dorr character.
Speaker 2: If they came to you and said who do you
Speaker 2: want to play and you get to pick.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you know what.
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 4: What I would love to play is there are characters
Speaker 4: that I would love to play, But I would love
Speaker 4: to play someone in like the Acolyte or someone Yes,
Speaker 4: I would love to play someone in the High Republic era,
Speaker 4: or someone in this James Mangold movie if that ever
Speaker 4: gets made. I'd love to play a character who's an
Speaker 4: unknown that I that is, you know, that is able
Speaker 4: to be defined by the performance, rather than wouldn't it
Speaker 4: be cool to be Quinlan Voss? Wouldn't it be cool
Speaker 4: to do Dark Disciples and be Quinlan Voss? You know, no,
Speaker 4: it would be, but you know, like, I don't think
Speaker 4: that's ever gonna originate.
Speaker 2: A character in that world.
Speaker 3: These are my stories. This is what I love.
Speaker 4: So any time that I can spend and with characters
Speaker 4: in this world, and then also consuming all the podcasts
Speaker 4: and all this stuff. Just during the time that this
Speaker 4: season has aired, I've been so excited and having so
Speaker 4: much fun inside Star Wars. I've rewatched Rebels again, and
Speaker 4: I've rewatched the last three seasons of Clone Wars again
Speaker 4: just because I was having so much fun being inside.
Speaker 3: Star Wars stories.
Speaker 4: So I had a great time, even though I did
Speaker 4: genuinely feel like the season was a little uneven for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I my thought would be I understand the and
Speaker 1: somewhat share the criticism of being uneven. I considering the
Speaker 1: ambitions that they had, which was to kind of like
Speaker 1: tie up these final mof Gideon threads and tie down
Speaker 1: the the you know, retaking of mandalor kind of plot lines,
Speaker 1: I guess there was almost no way to do it
Speaker 1: without it feeling like a lumpier show, and it certainly
Speaker 1: feels like there's there's also a, in true Dave ful
Speaker 1: Any style, a kind of larger mission to tie into
Speaker 1: the most recent trilogy and shore up some of the
Speaker 1: I get, you know, for lack of a better word,
Speaker 1: weak spots in the trilogy. That's what I think my
Speaker 1: main note is that, like, I am shocked still at
Speaker 1: the power that this puppet.
Speaker 2: Has over me.
Speaker 1: Every time they do a one shot a Warner of
Speaker 1: this of this puppet's face, every time it makes some
Speaker 1: sort of cooing sound or or presses the button to
Speaker 1: say yes or no, it is. I could watch that
Speaker 1: for two hours. I could just watch it cooing and
Speaker 1: making facial making different faces. It's to the emotion that
Speaker 1: this fucking puppet carries, it is and.
Speaker 4: The emotion that it can elicit, you know, it is.
Speaker 4: It's incredible, it conveying. It's an incredible job they do.
Speaker 3: Emo.
Speaker 4: It's an incredible performance literally, yes, from the from the
Speaker 4: puppet and the VFX operators, and it's incredible. But then
Speaker 4: it makes me like when Groku is you know, sous
Speaker 4: storming everybody in the in the invisible shield, I'm like crying.
Speaker 4: He's saving his mom and dad. I'm crying. You know,
Speaker 4: It's it's very emotional.
Speaker 3: It greatly is.
Speaker 2: I'm grateful every day that Werner has called them cowards
Speaker 2: and told them to use the puppet, because truly we
Speaker 2: need more puppets in our life. Yeah, I agree with
Speaker 2: both of you. I think you covered it up very well.
Speaker 2: I will say I am a huge fan of the
Speaker 2: Saturday Morning Adventure aspect of sci fi, of Star Wars,
Speaker 2: of the things that shape George Lucas in making this
Speaker 2: the trilogy originally. So for me, I actually enjoy the
Speaker 2: wild Romp adventures and the side quests and the Plazia fifteens,
Speaker 2: so it's easier for me to feel that I can
Speaker 2: I can sand out the unevenness because I like when
Speaker 2: it goes back to that.
Speaker 1: Oh one more question, are we gonna Are we going
Speaker 1: to tie up the G sixty eight loosens and the
Speaker 1: MNSTY program the very clear uh you know neo Imperial
Speaker 1: plot that is slowly unfurling there on Coruscant, which is
Speaker 1: probably the project to create Snoke and bring back Palpatine
Speaker 1: like further down the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well do you think that?
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this, do you think that
Speaker 4: Do you think Moff Gideon is dead?
Speaker 1: Dead dead?
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure. I thought, you know, we know, nobody
Speaker 2: really dies. We saw it off all dimes, so happened there, spider,
Speaker 2: you know, But I actually do think the explosion was
Speaker 2: big enough that he is I'm like ninety percent on
Speaker 2: the dead side ten percent on a like general grievous situation.
Speaker 2: That's the only way.
Speaker 4: We can come well, because like we've invested some much
Speaker 4: time in his spy network. You know, it's his spies
Speaker 4: that got to that are inside the New Republic. It's
Speaker 4: his spies that get to pershing in the mind flare,
Speaker 4: like all of that stuff. If he's gone, does that
Speaker 4: spine network just go to someone else? Or yeah, to
Speaker 4: your point, will we never see them again? Because we
Speaker 4: don't have to?
Speaker 2: I think that G. I think G sixty eight eliot.
Speaker 2: I think she is actually going to be like a
Speaker 2: very big connecting thread between all of these stories as
Speaker 2: basically the representative of the Imperial remnants. So if that
Speaker 2: spy network goes to anyone, I think it's her, and
Speaker 2: I think she keeps it alive. I love that performance
Speaker 2: that Katie O'Brien did. She's so nefarious and so villainous.
Speaker 4: I would also love to see her as a thron spy.
Speaker 4: I would love it if she if Thron saw in
Speaker 4: her this is this is someone I can use to
Speaker 4: my advantage. That would be so you know, and that
Speaker 4: would be great if if basically thrown enters and just
Speaker 4: takes over the vacuum left by Maff Gideon's death.
Speaker 3: That's interesting to me.
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. And also mof was
Speaker 2: outspokenly against Thrawn and constantly presented himself as a better
Speaker 2: option or suggested they were beout options. And Thorn is
Speaker 2: a very egotistical person, So I think that taking over
Speaker 2: from Moff Gideon, who didn't survive. And also if we
Speaker 2: look at the mall situation, that could also set up
Speaker 2: something very cool if ten years down the line they
Speaker 2: actually wanted to bring Moff back and it's him and
Speaker 2: thrown in that kind of competition.
Speaker 1: Will say that I believe that Maff Gideon is dead
Speaker 1: dead only because it was you know, a feat of
Speaker 1: the force, right, that Palpatine was able to take his
Speaker 1: consciousness at the moment of death and move it to
Speaker 1: you know, like beam in over Wi Fi to his clone.
Speaker 1: And I would assume that that is not something that
Speaker 1: Gideon has either the wherewithal to do through the force.
Speaker 1: Certainly it had no completed his project of and right
Speaker 1: his only force experiments anyway, and that in terms of
Speaker 1: the technology required to move his mind at the moment
Speaker 1: of death to a place I would assume that he
Speaker 1: is not capable of doing that. That's not something that
Speaker 1: he would be able to do. So I think that
Speaker 1: he is for real dead, And I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think that the Spy Network. I wonder if Thron
Speaker 1: takes it over at a certain point and that becomes
Speaker 1: the Snoke Project. Well, it was wonderful to talk Star Wars.
Speaker 1: It was fun. Up Next, Comics Corner, Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Hive Mind, where we explore a topic and more detail
Speaker 1: with the help of expert guests. This week, Jason Manzucus
Speaker 1: tells us what he's reading. So I will just say,
Speaker 1: off rip that I am behind. But Jason, you're such
Speaker 1: a well read person. What are you reading it?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 4: You know I'm also behind, I will admit, And it
Speaker 4: is you know, as a comics reader, I'm sure you
Speaker 4: comics readers you both understand that feeling when you look
Speaker 4: over where your comics are and suddenly, suddenly, somehow there's
Speaker 4: piles of stuff and you're like, oh God, what is this?
Speaker 4: And it's interesting what I choose to read, what I
Speaker 4: choose to keep going with, and a lot of that
Speaker 4: tells you, like what I'm loving, you know, and so
Speaker 4: like I will still.
Speaker 3: I've been a.
Speaker 4: Completist on hell Boy stories, yeah, from the beginning basically,
Speaker 4: And so those are books I always read partially because
Speaker 4: they usually come in digestible stories single, one shots, two shots,
Speaker 4: or four issues.
Speaker 3: Max tell a story in Hellboy, and so I keep
Speaker 3: up with that. I love that. The what was the
Speaker 3: Cliff Chang Catwoman book that came out?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 3: Is it called Lonely City?
Speaker 1: No, it's called City Something.
Speaker 3: I thought that was fantas I love Cliff Chang, so
Speaker 3: I thought that was just fantastic. So beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 3: I'm another one of the artists that I really like.
Speaker 4: Declan Schalvey has a new book out right now called
Speaker 4: I Think Old Man, The Old The Old Man.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's called I can't remember.
Speaker 4: There's only been a couple of issues so far, and
Speaker 4: I read that, which I really liked.
Speaker 1: Rosie, what about you? What are you reading?
Speaker 2: Okay? So yesterday was I'm also behind on the weekly
Speaker 2: single issues. It's hard to keep up. There's so many
Speaker 2: great comics. But yesterday it was the eight if an
Speaker 2: anniversary of Superman's first appearance and Lois Lane's first appearance,
Speaker 2: and DC released this absolutely gorgeous Lowest Lane graphic novel
Speaker 2: called Girl Taking Over. It's by Ariel Jo Vilanos and
Speaker 2: Sarah Coon, who is so such a brilliant writer, and
Speaker 2: together it's just unbelievable. It's got gorgeous colours by Olivia Puccini.
Speaker 2: It's got Melanie yu Jumori did the letters, which are
Speaker 2: super dynamic, and it's basically Lowis Lane and she's Asian
Speaker 2: American and she's going to National City to start her
Speaker 2: dream internship and it is this coming of age journalism
Speaker 2: kind of mystery. But it's so vibrant and so colorful.
Speaker 2: I love those DCYA graphic novels, and this is one
Speaker 2: of the best that they've done. And it's a great
Speaker 2: thing to read because it's eighty five years of Lewis Lane.
Speaker 2: So that's been a big one for me, as always
Speaker 2: reading a lot of reading a lot of manga. I
Speaker 2: recently read Sticking on the DC. I recently reread Rachel
Speaker 2: Pollock's Doom Patrol Run. We sadly lost Rachel recently a
Speaker 2: really trailblazing transcreator. Her Doom Patrol Run that she took
Speaker 2: over from Grant Morrison is so good, and they recently
Speaker 2: collected it for the first time. Oh, it's unbelievable. If
Speaker 2: you love Doom Patrol, if you love Grant Morrison, you
Speaker 2: got to read it. She takes it over with Richard
Speaker 2: Case the series penciler Stam walks on there and it
Speaker 2: is just so subversive and a truly great follow up
Speaker 2: to Morrison's Doom Patrol on which is one of the
Speaker 2: greatest of all time.
Speaker 4: Ooh, that's great because like that's a Doom Patrol a book.
Speaker 4: I have almost zero knowledge of D Like DC in general,
Speaker 4: I'm very ignorant of is so much so that I
Speaker 4: would love if and I don't want to put you
Speaker 4: on the spot, but if you have any recommendations, I've
Speaker 4: recently watched a ton of the animated a ton of
Speaker 4: the DC animated movies, right YEI, which I'd only seen
Speaker 4: a couple here and there, and I just watched a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of them that were all about John Constantine. Oh, well,
Speaker 4: another character that I'm woefully ignorant of. So if you
Speaker 4: have like runs or you know, go this writer or
Speaker 4: this era or whatever I want to hear.
Speaker 2: It, You're going to be very happy. Because Constantine was
Speaker 2: created by Alan Moore, so you're in a good place. YEA,
Speaker 2: the brilliant space. I would say the old school, the
Speaker 2: ago hell Blazer, which is what his story was, is
Speaker 2: one of the best places to go. They actually recently
Speaker 2: did a really incredible John Constantine y a graphic novel
Speaker 2: in that same series, which is a really good jumping
Speaker 2: on point that I adored, and it has really really
Speaker 2: beautiful art. There's so many good ones. I love Mike Carey.
Speaker 2: He did a great hell Blazer run. So you're really
Speaker 2: blessed because John Constantine is basically it's all good stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just such a great character. I love him so much. Also,
Speaker 2: I would say, if you want to watch more John Constantine,
Speaker 2: they didn't hit the version that Matt Ryan did in
Speaker 2: Legends of Tomorrow. You can just skip to when he joins.
Speaker 2: It's like, I love all of Legends, but it's so good.
Speaker 2: Book is like an incredible John Constantine and he actually
Speaker 2: ended up voicing him in some of those later movies too.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, cool, Yeah, I've watched none of that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a joyous queer superhero romp through space. Great,
Speaker 2: very very star Wars in that way, like Villain of
Speaker 2: the week kind of.
Speaker 4: Have you guys ever read Johanna the Chris Book?
Speaker 2: I love that book.
Speaker 4: That book is absolutely fantastic and dible, all ages book
Speaker 4: that I cannot recommend, especially if you have a young
Speaker 4: person in your life who you want to read comics
Speaker 4: or who does read comics. Chris Somney maybe one of
Speaker 4: my favorite artists right now.
Speaker 1: Chris.
Speaker 2: Okay, well then I'm gonna actually one of the other
Speaker 2: books I was going to recommend, which you will definitely
Speaker 2: love if you love that comic. There's this great new
Speaker 2: publisher called Saturday Am that's trying to like replicate kind
Speaker 2: of the shown and Jump like Manga magazine. They have
Speaker 2: this book called gun Hild by Fred Tornega, and I
Speaker 2: love this book. It's like a girl She's it's all
Speaker 2: ages comic. It feels very much in that same vein,
Speaker 2: and it's about a girl who's like a twelve year
Speaker 2: old who lives in a world of Norse gods, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of like feels a bit like fantasy sports
Speaker 2: and a bit it's just a really great all ages
Speaker 2: kind of romp through this fantastical world with this really dynamic,
Speaker 2: beautiful art. So it's so good. I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 2: I think that they just collected it in print recently.
Speaker 1: I have one thing to recommend, even though I am behind,
Speaker 1: and this is an older not older, but a recent
Speaker 1: but but it's the run is finished. And this is
Speaker 1: the Good Asian Yes, which is now Oh incredible books.
Speaker 2: Incredible adapted to company.
Speaker 1: By porn Sac Pisiste and Alexander TCHEFENGI beautiful, gritty, pulpy
Speaker 1: art this morning. A really really cool story about a
Speaker 1: Chinese American detective on the trail of a killer during
Speaker 1: the era of the Chinese Exclusion ACTU just really really great,
Speaker 1: a wonderful read, and it's a finished story. If you
Speaker 1: want to pick something up that you can just be
Speaker 1: done with with definitive ending. Uh, it's available there in
Speaker 1: trade paperback, multiple volume trade paper I'll.
Speaker 4: Throw out another recommendation because it's a mashup of two
Speaker 4: things that I really love, which is the I'm a
Speaker 4: fan of all really was the very into the Kirkman
Speaker 4: Walking Dead books as they were coming out, very into
Speaker 4: the Walking Dead. I never really converted into a TV
Speaker 4: show watcher by I loved that comics run and but
Speaker 4: one of my favorite comics writer and artists Tilly Walden
Speaker 4: has done, has done now a story and now a
Speaker 4: second one is coming out set in that world called Clementine.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Tilly Walden incredible, uh has has put out a number
Speaker 4: of truly incredible on a sunbeam spinning graphic novels that
Speaker 4: are just.
Speaker 2: One of the best cartoonists working at the moment. Without question, Are.
Speaker 4: You Listening is another one of hers that are just
Speaker 4: really fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved Clementine also has it's got disabled protagonist
Speaker 2: because it's Clementine from the Walking Deck Games. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: It's set an Amish country, which is something I feel
Speaker 2: like I've never really seen in comics. I loved that
Speaker 2: comics so much. I actually chatted to Tilly about it
Speaker 2: Polygon with just a really great interview. Tilly was recently
Speaker 2: made the Comics Laureate of Vermont.
Speaker 3: We really yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh that's rare.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those Clementine comics are red and you know what,
Speaker 2: a lot of fans did not approach them in a
Speaker 2: supportive way because, as we know, some top fandoms can
Speaker 2: be quite toxic. So I would just say go out
Speaker 2: and read.
Speaker 1: Those wait really, oh yeah, unfortunately.
Speaker 3: But Rosie is certainly not comics.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately. That is the case. Let's see, since we spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about the Mandalorian in this episode,
Speaker 1: and that is, you know, on some level inspired by
Speaker 1: the classic Wolf and Cub comics. You know, anytime you
Speaker 1: have an older warrior with a baby, the baby, it
Speaker 1: can only be inspired by a Wolf and Cub. Any
Speaker 1: particular favorite Wolf and Cub stories for either of you, Rosie.
Speaker 2: Well, I would say, if you haven't read it, go
Speaker 2: and read Lone Wolf and Cub. Dark Horse has multiple
Speaker 2: collections of them. It's like one of the most influential
Speaker 2: comics ever made. It's the writer is Kazu Koike, and
Speaker 2: then the artist was go Cy Kajima. And these are
Speaker 2: just some of the most astonishingly brilliant comics. They have
Speaker 2: played a huge influencer. Frank Miller, for example, no matter
Speaker 2: how you feel about him, that is someone who deeply
Speaker 2: took from those comics. I would say that's the place
Speaker 2: to go, especially as we're about to watch you know,
Speaker 2: Grogu and didn't go on this journey. They became assassins
Speaker 2: this episode, so it's very so I would say the
Speaker 2: classic Lone wolfh and Cub. There's so many collections. They're brilliant.
Speaker 2: You can probably get them from the library. It's this
Speaker 2: beautiful samurai story. One of the most famous manger of
Speaker 2: all time. Also, I'll put out there just any Wolverine
Speaker 2: story where he was with a kid days. To me,
Speaker 2: Wolverine is the like good Lone Wolf and Cub.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, he really like as a reader of the
Speaker 4: time too. It like Wolverine really became one of my
Speaker 4: favorites when he would get paired with Jubilee exactly, when
Speaker 4: you know, when they would go on and adventure together.
Speaker 3: That was that's the balance that you want, you know.
Speaker 2: Hope they keep that whenever they whoever they cost as Wolverine.
Speaker 2: By the way, now I'm like, are they gonna cost
Speaker 2: Pager as Wolverine? Like is that happening? Because this really
Speaker 2: feels like they're setting him up for it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I hope they keep that because I think that's one
Speaker 2: of my favorite Western iterations in comics, is Wolverine as
Speaker 2: the kind of he's the cranky dad, yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: like he has to look after all these annoying mutant
Speaker 2: kids and it's like he doesn't want to do it,
Speaker 2: but he really loves to do it, but he can
Speaker 2: still kill you with his adamantium clause.
Speaker 1: That's what one of my favorite recent comics run is
Speaker 1: over now. But Wolverine and the X Men, when Wolverine
Speaker 1: was basically the headmaster of the school for a period
Speaker 1: of time, it was so fun because it was fun.
Speaker 1: It was that was like prime cranky dad in charge
Speaker 1: of like all these preteen and teenage kids who are
Speaker 1: just like you, old man.
Speaker 2: He's refereeing the baseball games.
Speaker 1: Absolutely fun. Any any final Lone Wolf and Cub.
Speaker 3: Mixed, Jason, You know, I'm trying. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm having trouble coming up with other comics because I'm
Speaker 4: stuck on like oh yeah, like true Grit falls in
Speaker 4: like Exaust that's a great Lone wolfing uh and Cub
Speaker 4: story type story. The Sam Mendy's movie, what's the movie
Speaker 4: with Tom Hanks where he's got his son and.
Speaker 1: There he wrote todition thank you?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: On a comic.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right. I'd never read it
Speaker 4: though I don't I didn't process.
Speaker 2: But you're right, you'll be You'll be okay with it
Speaker 2: Lone Wolf and cop I will also say, brilliant movies.
Speaker 2: So if you want more of that, to see where
Speaker 2: that influence came from, you can really get to enjoy
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: It really is.
Speaker 4: It's the Batman and Robin, you know, like when exactly
Speaker 4: exactly when they've really leaned into it, you know, like
Speaker 4: the you know they Frank Frank Miller's done it, Like
Speaker 4: when they really lean into it. Those the Batman and
Speaker 4: Robin relationship, when Robin especially isn't Damian Wayne, you know,
Speaker 4: is not is not a cup like, he's not.
Speaker 3: Assassin.
Speaker 2: You're right, the Dark Knight returns like Carrie Kelly exactly.
Speaker 2: That's what I was very lone Wolphone Cup like, and
Speaker 2: and Frank was hugely influenced by these.
Speaker 4: Right because he can't he kind of can't shake her.
Speaker 4: He kind of she is you know, there is an
Speaker 4: element of it. There's a reluctant dad element too that
Speaker 4: I think is part and parcel of this. It's not
Speaker 4: his child, he just has to take care of the women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love that. Also. I I went when
Speaker 2: The Batman came out, I went to Warner Brothers and
Speaker 2: I saw it and Robert Pattinson was there and he
Speaker 2: said something that I've never forgotten where somebody was like,
Speaker 2: you know, would you do a robin and he was like,
Speaker 2: only if the only if robin is like eleven, and
Speaker 2: I want to see it so badly because I'm like,
Speaker 2: that is how weird it needs to be and that
Speaker 2: is that lone wolphing cup thing like why do you
Speaker 2: have a child with you? Just like we asked why
Speaker 2: is didn't taking the baby everything?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love that. I think that would be
Speaker 3: rad and so upsetting in a.
Speaker 4: Way that in a way that I feel like they're
Speaker 4: interested in, Like I feel like that that Matt Reeves
Speaker 4: Batman universe is interested in him, in him making mistakes
Speaker 4: and him and him, you know, taking els and that
Speaker 4: that would certainly be one.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: Well, Jason, it's been so delightful to have you on
Speaker 1: the program.
Speaker 3: Thrilled to be here.
Speaker 2: Yes, such a wonder please come back.
Speaker 4: Anything to oh I will plug Well you were kind
Speaker 4: enough to mention the how did this get made?
Speaker 3: Podcast? That I do?
Speaker 1: Horful podcast?
Speaker 2: Just so much fun?
Speaker 3: Oh thanks?
Speaker 4: With Paul Sheer and June Diane Rayphael, where we talk
Speaker 4: about terrible movies and subject ourselves to watching them. It's
Speaker 4: really it's been going on for fourteen or thirteen years,
Speaker 4: and it's deeply upsetting.
Speaker 3: I'll also throw out a recommendation.
Speaker 4: For something that I think you're, especially fans of the show,
Speaker 4: will like, which is I'm one of the voices on
Speaker 4: Star Trek Prodigy, Yes, which is a fantastic st Our
Speaker 4: Trek animated show that is geared towards young people. It
Speaker 4: is it's the first Star Trek story that takes place
Speaker 4: primarily with young adults with with a it's a group,
Speaker 4: it's a found family, it's a it's a you know,
Speaker 4: a group of kids who are basically trapped on a
Speaker 4: slave planet where they're you know, they they managed to
Speaker 4: steal a ship and escape and and and they go
Speaker 4: on like truly just like adventures all all throughout Star
Speaker 4: Trek Lore and Cannon and it's fantastic Janeway Supremacy.
Speaker 2: I was just a voyager Janeway show. I should not
Speaker 2: say no to that.
Speaker 4: It really is so fun and so beautiful, and it
Speaker 4: feels very and I hope this is okay to say,
Speaker 4: but it to me feels very similar to a Clone
Speaker 4: Wars or a Rebels in the sense of it is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it is young protagonists, and it is adventure based and
Speaker 4: it's a blast, and I play, you know, as always
Speaker 4: a sixteen.
Speaker 3: Year old, which is.
Speaker 1: Yet again.
Speaker 4: But please everybody watch Star Trek Prodigy. Show it to
Speaker 4: your kids. It's incredible, hard Star Trek sci fi. It's
Speaker 4: a blast. And you know, if you don't mind, it's
Speaker 4: on Paramount Plus. Set it up to auto play the
Speaker 4: whole series.
Speaker 3: We really want it. I love that completion rate, guys,
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you so much, Jason, absolutely, thank you. Up
Speaker 1: next nerd Out.
Speaker 2: In today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you
Speaker 2: love them, why, or a theory you're excited to share.
Speaker 2: Marcus pictures us on the Star Wars sequel trilogies in
Speaker 2: the wake of Star Wars Celebration twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 2: specifically on the Fantastic Daisy Ridley as Ray.
Speaker 1: Hey, Jason and Rosie, First time, long time.
Speaker 7: This week on the nerd Out, I'm pitching a small
Speaker 7: series of independent films better known as the Star Wars
Speaker 7: sequel trilogy.
Speaker 3: Ever heard of it.
Speaker 7: I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan who grew up with
Speaker 7: the prequels and never ever expected we would get a
Speaker 7: sequel trilogy, but I always dreamed of one, So to
Speaker 7: get a trilogy starring an actress as talented as Daisy
Speaker 7: Ridley was a dream fulfilled look. The trilogy is not perfect,
Speaker 7: and its flaws are often over exaggerated because of the
Speaker 7: perverse incentives of social media, but that's a nerd out
Speaker 7: for another time. Ray is quite simply one of the
Speaker 7: most compelling characters in all of Star Wars, and that's
Speaker 7: a testament to Daisy Ridley's incredible performances. As amazing as
Speaker 7: it was to see han Leah and Luke on screen
Speaker 7: once more, it's Ray whose arc the trilogy is rightfully
Speaker 7: centered upon, and she is more than up for shouldering
Speaker 7: that responsibility. The raucous reaction in London when Lucasfilm announced
Speaker 7: Ridley was returning to the role is only a small
Speaker 7: testament to that fact. With the rise of Skywalker in
Speaker 7: the rearview mirror and the new Jedi Order on the horizon,
Speaker 7: it's really no better time to dive do into raise
Speaker 7: arc with fresh eyes, unburdened by theories about her lineage
Speaker 7: and poisonous online discourse. Look, I can't wait to see
Speaker 7: her pass on what she has learned not only from
Speaker 7: her predecessors, but her sequel trilogy peers to a new generation.
Speaker 7: After all, the force is about much more than lifting rocks.
Speaker 2: Thanks Marcus. If you have theories of passions that you
Speaker 2: want to share, hit us up at x ray at
Speaker 2: crooked dot com. Instructions is always in the show notes,
Speaker 2: and we also wanted to thank everyone for sending so
Speaker 2: many brilliant Mandalorian fan theories in We love featuring a
Speaker 2: bunch on the pod and reading them over email. Apologies
Speaker 2: for not being able to include them all, but thank
Speaker 2: you for sending them and keep them coming.
Speaker 1: That's it for us. A big thank you to Jason Manzucas,
Speaker 1: Rosie Plugs, Plugs, Plugs, Plugs Plugs read.
Speaker 2: All those great comics that we talked about on the
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