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<v Speaker 1>three finale of The Mandalorian on Disney Pluce. Hello. My

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<v Speaker 2>three finale of The Mandalorian and whoa finale it was

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<v Speaker 1>Next to the air lock, stepping out of the airlock

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<v Speaker 1>and into a galaxy far far away to discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian season three finale alongside friend of the pod, Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Manzuka's co host of How Did This Get made? Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining.

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<v Speaker 3>R to be here. Guys. This is the way, this is.

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<v Speaker 2>The way, this is this is the way it would.

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<v Speaker 3>Be done all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Let's talk about season three, Episode eight, Chapter twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>the Return, directed by Rick fam we had written by

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<v Speaker 1>John Favreau. We pick up right after the events of

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<v Speaker 1>the previous episode. First off, on behalf of the x

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<v Speaker 1>RA Vision. I would like to apologize to ax Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>who is not a spy and also whose jet pack

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<v Speaker 1>can absolutely get him into orbit up to the spacecraft which.

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<v Speaker 4>Crazy crazy who I mean, we just only a few

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<v Speaker 4>episodes ago saw the Mandalorians in the covert run out

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<v Speaker 4>of gas chasing a bird.

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<v Speaker 2>How did Haas Bisla manage to run out of gas?

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<v Speaker 2>But Axwoves can fly into space.

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<v Speaker 4>X Woves can basically has a hyperdrive on his back.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's going on. My guys like up

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<v Speaker 4>in the atmosphere and are the rest of the covert

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't even chase the bird when it captured Ragnar.

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<v Speaker 2>And it had many children at that point, like more

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<v Speaker 2>than its stolen more than one child child. So this Axe,

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<v Speaker 2>you could have been more useful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think there's I have two possible theories. One

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<v Speaker 1>is that Axe and his crew they kept it tight.

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<v Speaker 1>They were active mercenaries. They're working out in the world

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<v Speaker 1>doing stuff for cash, and they had to be ready

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<v Speaker 1>for game time in a way that Pause and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of them rednecking around by Crocodile Lake were not like.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the second theory is that Pause is just

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<v Speaker 1>a deadbeat dad who never who was just irresponsible number one,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can see that by the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have his jetpet gassed up. And then number two,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of think that the reason that he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna hold off the dart Trood.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys get out of here. It's just he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to raise his kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I mean, I blink believe. I mean that is brutal.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what that is a brutal take on our

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<v Speaker 4>guye as Vizla.

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<v Speaker 2>He sacrificed himself the three for Toorian guys to save

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<v Speaker 2>the Mandalorians.

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<v Speaker 1>But you say not because he didn't want to pay Chiles,

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<v Speaker 1>not even a word for his son, not even to

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<v Speaker 1>tell my not even tell tell him, tell Ragno, I

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<v Speaker 1>love him and tell him what a hero he's getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like I'm out, I'll take him. You guys get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>It was that was there has been some wild wild

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<v Speaker 4>Did you guys also feel like I got so pregnant

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<v Speaker 4>with the idea that ax Wolves was a spy?

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<v Speaker 3>Or was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we were invested, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a hard time believing he was saving the day,

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<v Speaker 4>which unqueslatably he was doing. He is hero on Mandalor.

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<v Speaker 4>And the entire time I was like this fucking guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was, I was like, oh, getting old the

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<v Speaker 2>Mandalorians to leave the ship. That's suspicions.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way the captain of the ship gives him

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<v Speaker 1>like a double tap, look like really like.

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<v Speaker 2>What it looks out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, here it comes, here comes with

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<v Speaker 1>xbos like shoots them all in the back. It just

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<v Speaker 1>never happened. Axe Wolves stand up died in the end.

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<v Speaker 4>My apologies, Oh yeah, we're gonna hand out a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of apologies today.

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<v Speaker 2>I think absolute apologies.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say. Unfortunately, unfortunately, we are going to hand

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<v Speaker 4>out a lot of apologies, because boy, would I like

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<v Speaker 4>what I have loved for one of these things to

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<v Speaker 4>have been proven true, for one of these people to

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<v Speaker 4>have been duplicitous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Back on the planet, bo is leading the survivors

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<v Speaker 1>out of moff Gidion's base. She radios to the very

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<v Speaker 1>very loyal axe Wolves before he's cut off by the

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere to say, hey, okay, use the capital ship as

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<v Speaker 1>a decoy. Get all the warriors off the chips and

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<v Speaker 1>down to the surface, so I'll talk to you earlier. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she has to use a thermal detonator to collapse

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<v Speaker 1>a tunnel because the dark Trooper armor is really really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Back Uh, somewhere else in the base, Dinn breaks for

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<v Speaker 1>you from his captain. You gotta have more guys on Dinn.

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<v Speaker 2>Truly, this is an absolute strategical mistake. Do you have Mandalorian?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh'm a guess who knows how to use it? Bout

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<v Speaker 2>a Mandalorian every time. And also he has a full

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<v Speaker 2>sensitive baby whose medichlorians are so strong you are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to steal them.

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<v Speaker 1>And MAV what are you saving them for? You got

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<v Speaker 1>so many guys and you got baby guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I was also confused throughout both last week.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of last week and this week.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe MAF Gideon was not intrigued or interested

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<v Speaker 4>at all that Grogu was there, Like the dude spent

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<v Speaker 4>the first entire season chasing Grogu for his blood. They

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<v Speaker 4>bring Grogu to his cloning base. He doesn't even taste

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<v Speaker 4>full on playing hard to get. He's ignoring Grogu.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not even.

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<v Speaker 3>Like are you again?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like and now is it? It's a Guru in

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<v Speaker 2>a mech Yeah, so this is like not an easy

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<v Speaker 2>thing to just ignore.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like, how is there not a scene where where

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<v Speaker 4>Moff Gideon is like, is that Grogu in a.

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<v Speaker 2>You put that baby in a gun?

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<v Speaker 4>I would love it. I would love it if if

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<v Speaker 4>if Werner. Herzog came in and was like, I would

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<v Speaker 4>like to see the mech baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see the man.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see the mech baby.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dinn takes out these dark troopers, and then Grogu

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<v Speaker 1>arrives to kind of save the day when Dan is

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<v Speaker 1>about to get choked out and then shut my head

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<v Speaker 1>comes up, says no, no, no, crushes the pistol, and

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<v Speaker 1>then is he what is he spraying on his dad?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like fire extinguisher fluid?

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<v Speaker 4>I assume it was back yeah, the same way that

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<v Speaker 4>I g eleven did Sorry Rosie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say I think he did it because

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<v Speaker 2>that was heat and fire, but yeah, it's it's It

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely back to And it was funny because Den's like,

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<v Speaker 2>please stop. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was also sweet because Grogu's trying to risk

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<v Speaker 3>you his dad, and his dad's like, I'm okay, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I should at this point apologize for bringing you into

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<v Speaker 4>an active war zone.

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<v Speaker 3>My child is Ragnar here no.

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<v Speaker 1>But then THENDN says, Grogu, I'm gonna need you to

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<v Speaker 1>be brave for me, because if we don't take out

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<v Speaker 1>maf Gideon, this will never end. Are you with me?

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<v Speaker 1>And of course baby Grogu' is like, oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just love that. Dinn is like, listen, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>murder this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was like, are you with me? My child,

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<v Speaker 2>my small baby?

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta kill You're gonna kill him? Like yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna have to You're gonna have to be brave

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<v Speaker 4>grogu because today we murder.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna happen now. Din then Radio's Bow with the update. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he and the baby are gonna kill maf Gideon Bow

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<v Speaker 1>and the fighters escaped to the surface. They head to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the night Owl hideouts, and it is at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment that the Tie forces the TIE fighters and

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<v Speaker 1>the bombers screaming in the sky to attack the capital ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Jin radios Are five is like, I need you, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>We need you to SCOMP. Did anybody did anybody track them?

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote it down, Scomp. I wrote it in my notes.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what the hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Verb, We're gonna need you to Scomp into the base

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<v Speaker 1>and get me the location of mom Getdeon's commands letter.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this scumping what we call when the droids do

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<v Speaker 2>that little jet pack.

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<v Speaker 3>Is specific interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, that might be true. I took it to mean

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<v Speaker 4>like hack, I'm gonna need you to hack. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>pack into the system and blah blah blah whatever he said.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember what he said to do, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I assumed it was.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's such a weird word.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so also like I feel like we still have

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<v Speaker 2>never tapped in, you know, decades later, to the absolute

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<v Speaker 2>amount of gadget the eye units have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>They just always have what you need, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tiny little hand to electrocute something, a hacking. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like being a green Latin. You have infinite will power.

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<v Speaker 1>And shuts the R five for having the appropriate amount

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<v Speaker 1>of gas in his jets.

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<v Speaker 2>Times he's not making that Missay look.

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<v Speaker 1>Like daddy visla so our five. Using his little jets,

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<v Speaker 1>he floats down from the surface to the base and

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<v Speaker 1>begins looking for the nearest port data port that he

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<v Speaker 1>can use to scomp into the system. If that is

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<v Speaker 1>the axe gets through the gets through the clouds, he

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<v Speaker 1>makes it to the ships. He tells all the mandolarns, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. Suspicions drop and suspicion I will

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<v Speaker 1>pilot the capital ship. And there's all these really cool

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<v Speaker 1>uh like scenes of the Mandolarns, like skidding onto the

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<v Speaker 1>ramp of a ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say as well, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they were looking at a lot of ease Iron Man comics,

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<v Speaker 2>because while these Mandalorians are flying, there is so much

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<v Speaker 2>time that it looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered if they used like Iron Man assets.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I had the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I bet you they did, right, they had to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so much easy and it's so clean.

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<v Speaker 2>This does not look rushed. This looks like you literally

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing tens of people flying through aranizable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they don't have a lot of flying from past seasons.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a brand new thing. So but they have a

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<v Speaker 4>ton of metal suited character flying through the air.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm sure this is very.

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<v Speaker 2>Similar position to that kind of Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you it's Iron Man three assets and fight

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<v Speaker 1>where Tony is fighting like all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Suits multiple Man's.

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<v Speaker 3>We cracked it, guys, we cracked it.

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<v Speaker 1>We did. We figured it out.

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<v Speaker 3>That is true. Facts.

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<v Speaker 2>Cannon absolutely happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Mandalorians are heading towards the planet and just

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<v Speaker 1>then the tai bombers tie fighters come up and they

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<v Speaker 1>start attacking the ship, where X Wolves is heroically piloting

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<v Speaker 1>the ship without any kind of ulterior motive.

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<v Speaker 2>They as he's gonna do it, he crashing.

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<v Speaker 1>He is absolutely loyal to the cause. And again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry X quove there.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, X Wolves, thank you for your service.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, actually we apologize, but I would like to put

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<v Speaker 2>the blame for us suspect like suspecting you very directly

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<v Speaker 2>on whoever chose to name the last episode the Spies,

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<v Speaker 2>just saying I wait, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess let's talk about this. So what were the

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<v Speaker 1>Spies than R five n G sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the Spies are like the Imperial Remnant,

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<v Speaker 2>who are still you know, the zoom call, okay, the Imperials.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's I mean, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't add up because only because I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>we all have spent so much time theorizing and trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure it out and came up with we also

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<v Speaker 4>an apology to the night Owls very true, also as

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<v Speaker 4>oh well, don't they know exactly what trap to bring

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<v Speaker 4>everybody into it?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, everybody's like, yeah, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally command her whole life to rebuilding the Maglorians. And

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, guess who knows how to make best

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<v Speaker 2>that would be useful for gidiots?

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<v Speaker 4>Guess who's selling out our people. But I will say

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<v Speaker 4>once again and I listen, I love this show. This

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<v Speaker 4>is like one of my love this show. But I

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<v Speaker 4>would have liked for one of these things to be

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<v Speaker 4>true because I would have liked one more layer of

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<v Speaker 4>double crosses or all that just surprises.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>And make it the night owls, I say, because acts,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, like he's almost too suspicious, and that

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<v Speaker 1>also we just met these guys.

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<v Speaker 5>That's fine also as well, you would have had a

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<v Speaker 5>definite narrative satisfaction to show how Ax was really heroic

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<v Speaker 5>and then pull the rug from underneath you and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>act what it was that.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been fun. But that's okay. Back at

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<v Speaker 1>the base, there's some really classic Star Wars stuff happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Din and Grogu sneaking around an imperial base.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like the old days. You have an R

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<v Speaker 1>unit hacking in guiding them along the way. They come

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<v Speaker 1>to this the tunnel that we saw I'm off Gideon

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<v Speaker 1>Emerge from when he went to go take that zoom

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<v Speaker 1>call which is protected by a series of laser shields

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<v Speaker 1>which are five needs to open one at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the fight that unfurls here where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Din has to be like, okay, now open the next

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<v Speaker 1>gate where he and then he's gonna fight two dark

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<v Speaker 1>troopers there, and then open the next one. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fight two dark troops. Very reminiscent of the jin Obi

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<v Speaker 1>Wan Mall duel from the Phantom menas at least the visual.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you in those shields, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like the Reds, I feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>again is feeling very lost Jedi. I feel like there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of lost Jedi echoes here with obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the Praetorian gods and everything, but the Reds and the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like you got to fight a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>troopers in this very dynamic way. I was a fan

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<v Speaker 2>of this fight. It was a cool life.

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<v Speaker 4>I liked a lot of the fights. I liked this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought had good a good variety of fights, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>big sky like dog fight stuff. Yeah, practical on the

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<v Speaker 4>ground hand to hand, the Bocatan fight with the Dark

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<v Speaker 4>Saber and the and whatever Maf Gideon's staff is called.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure, but you know, I really liked the

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<v Speaker 4>variety of stuff that this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody got to whoop a little eggs, Like whenever

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<v Speaker 1>we went back to the armor in the sky, just

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<v Speaker 1>Molly whopping dark troopers. I was like, Wow, that was

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<v Speaker 1>that's really cool. And I love that the.

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<v Speaker 3>Armor is never like you know what for this, Give me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not happening, Give me the barbecue, the barbecue tools,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to town.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also nice that they built up this idea of

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<v Speaker 2>these Mandalorian partially Mandalorian armored troopers and then actually showed

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<v Speaker 2>us them using their Malorian armor and Mandalorian weapons. That

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<v Speaker 2>could have been very easy to skip over, but we

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<v Speaker 2>really got that in Din with like the little lessus

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<v Speaker 2>that shot out and everything. That was very fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and Maf Gideon had like the rockets that

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<v Speaker 4>shoot out of his classic the Whispering Angels or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>not Oh my god, please that's.

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<v Speaker 3>The rose, please make it. Those what were they called

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<v Speaker 3>whispering birds?

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<v Speaker 1>Were the whispering birds, right, yeah, whispering.

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<v Speaker 3>Birds something like that man.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish it was called Whispering Angels, and they just

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<v Speaker 4>had a delightful little sip of rose that came.

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<v Speaker 3>Along with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, R five has to escape a gang of mousteroids

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<v Speaker 1>who are loved that moment getting in his face because

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<v Speaker 1>sirens like the.

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<v Speaker 2>One came up and he shocked him and then he

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<v Speaker 2>came up and he was just like up and he

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<v Speaker 2>just flew up scumped.

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<v Speaker 1>Away inside the command center. Didn't Grogu find all of

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<v Speaker 1>Gideon's clones. He's been cloning himself, apparently to give himself

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<v Speaker 1>versions of himself.

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<v Speaker 2>The force session.

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<v Speaker 1>Gives poor baby Grogu a mighty scare and.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like eye opening scare, something in a tank.

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<v Speaker 1>Boom, and so Den is like, fuck these clones, they

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<v Speaker 1>all got to die, and he just.

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<v Speaker 2>Killed my son.

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<v Speaker 1>The night Owls then lead who again hearty apologies to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, can I interrupt you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry Jon the question only because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like this beat where we see the mof Gideon's clone process,

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<v Speaker 4>all of the tanks are full of Moth Gideon clones,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I feel like this is a real change

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<v Speaker 4>from what I have thought we've been building towards all

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<v Speaker 4>this time, which is MAF Gideon wanted Grogu's blood so

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<v Speaker 4>that he could participate in the making of Snoke and

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<v Speaker 4>then openmately a forced sensitive Palpatine. Yeah, but this seems

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<v Speaker 4>to say, no, that is not the case. He was

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<v Speaker 4>using pershing to use Grogu's blood to make forced sensitive

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<v Speaker 4>moth gideons.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not think it takes away from It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a diversion. I believe that the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are Project Necromancer, who he has been hiding

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<v Speaker 2>this from, will inevitably find out he did this, and

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<v Speaker 2>the technology will be used.

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<v Speaker 3>But it just pushes it back a little. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it just pushes it back a little.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to take all this and then use it

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<v Speaker 4>to make exactly I think that that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is if that feels right. And I also say on

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<v Speaker 1>that Zoom call they kind of get in MAF Gideon's

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<v Speaker 1>ass for like using pershing for stuff that is not

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<v Speaker 1>related to Snoke, and later on Palpatine it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, you took pershing and you are doing

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<v Speaker 1>all this weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, I don't even like cloning. That's your yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Clone guy after.

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<v Speaker 4>He walked through a room of cloning, like he's like,

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<v Speaker 4>what cloning?

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<v Speaker 3>What you tell?

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite thing about this is, like, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost too big to just immediately commit to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wreckconning and expanding on the sequel trilogies as we

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was gonna most directly do. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>actually a very hilarious motivation when you really think about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just some guy who was like, why I just

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<v Speaker 2>want some fource sensitive clone versions of myself to make

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<v Speaker 2>an army of me's And everyone's like, what would This

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have anything to do with Palpatine and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>just some for sensitive muff.

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<v Speaker 1>Idiot, I can I ask one more question? Obviously, Like

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<v Speaker 1>his plan was to create an army of clones. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't all the guys in the Dark Trooper him, like

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<v Speaker 1>all the or all the Dark Trooper dudes.

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<v Speaker 4>Monkitie, I don't I mean you mean non for sensitive

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<v Speaker 4>muffetting you know, I would say, and making clones.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're just regular.

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<v Speaker 1>Clones, right, these are the beta clones?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that would be interesting. My guess is they're just

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<v Speaker 4>Stormtroopers who are loyal to him. Although he does mention, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>what I was surprised by is that he said, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the new evolution of the dark Trooper. And the

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<v Speaker 4>dark Troopers were robots, right, they were so, but these

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<v Speaker 4>are definitely people in suits, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>These are guys for sure. Uh, A lot, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to think about.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's it is funny you bring it up, Jason,

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<v Speaker 6>because he's said he directly says, well, you're the one

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<v Speaker 6>obsessed with Clone hold.

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<v Speaker 1>On and now it emerges that you were just cloning yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a classic neg He's negging the shadow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great X ray vision will be back, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>So the night Owls lead Bo and the warriors to

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<v Speaker 1>these garden caves that they've living in, beautiful teeming with

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<v Speaker 1>plant life, and again we're sorry to them. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>have been living in caves eating moss.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, this cave looks really small. Hot to

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<v Speaker 2>fight your way out of that when they have to

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<v Speaker 2>on you.

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<v Speaker 1>So the armor radio is in and she's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what the cavalies here. We're here. Uh, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And Bo's like, let's take back our planet. Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>They all scream for Moff Gidion's. Basically, we get this

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<v Speaker 1>delirious airborne battle that may or may not be taken

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<v Speaker 1>from assets from Iron Man three. And I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say this is I'm sitting here watching this, and it

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<v Speaker 1>looks great, looks amazing all like the armor swinging away

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<v Speaker 1>like bo with the dark saber out. We've never actually

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything like this in Star Wars to jet back

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<v Speaker 1>battling certainly nice on this scale, not at the scale.

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<v Speaker 2>This definitely makes me believe we were talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>likelihood of which Star Wars projects would go on to

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<v Speaker 2>become real that this sequence and the amount that they

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<v Speaker 2>committed to the armor and the Iron Man three assets

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<v Speaker 2>makes me think that the Lave allegedly the Dave Felony

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<v Speaker 2>wrap up of this live action kind of manned over

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<v Speaker 2>Suska verse. I. This really upped my expectation of actually

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<v Speaker 2>making it to the big screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm on board for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean imagine, imagine a big, huge dog fight,

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<v Speaker 4>space battle or sky battle between ships and Mandalorians in

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<v Speaker 4>the sky on the ship puts the being RN in there,

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<v Speaker 4>let's go, put the ghost in there, Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, I'd love to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dinn and Grogu find Gideon, and Guinean is whining

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<v Speaker 1>about his fucking clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't care about by the way, my clothes, my clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>you swallowed them before they could take their first Shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have one geography question here, So didn't Grogu.

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<v Speaker 1>They get the location to the command center, they go

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<v Speaker 1>through the laser guarded hallway to get to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they find Gideon standing on what is basically we

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<v Speaker 1>later find out right because as the fight unfolds, Bo

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<v Speaker 1>looks down and sees them fighting. They end up like

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<v Speaker 1>on the spaceport, you know, on the side of the chasm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's open to the air. Why did we have to

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<v Speaker 1>Why did then just fly down? Because they is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I fully agree the other thing that there's a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of confusion there too, which is he's uh,

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<v Speaker 4>they get the information from our five. We gotta find

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 4>maff Gideon's office right right here. It is, we're gonna

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 4>we're on our way. They go through the gates. Everything

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.399
<v Speaker 4>maf Gideon we've seen in his office, he looks at

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<v Speaker 4>a thing where Grogu and the Mandalorians who have who

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<v Speaker 4>have individual.

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<v Speaker 3>Dots on the thing. Yeah, beautiful.

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 4>I love that they have the ability to have a

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 4>green and a red dot on screen moving exactly when

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 4>they move, but there's no video surveillance in the entire base.

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, that's the one of the best funniest things.

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Must Gideon leaves his He's like, don't worry, I'll deal

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:24.120
<v Speaker 4>with them.

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Hefe where's the office, guys, anyway, which part is the

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>actual office? So then we get this big fight between

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>mof Gideon and Dinn, and I have to I have

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to hand it to MAF Gideon. Moff Gideon can ball man.

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>MAF Gideon gives Din everything he can handle. And then

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like so confident that he just throws Din over

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to the Praetorians and it's like, you take it. I'm

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 1>not even gonna get my sweat up because I can

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>so easily kick this guy's ass.

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, the suit definitely has hydraulics in it

0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 2>or something, right, it's it's it's an extreme the version

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 2>of anything that we've seen before.

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 4>I felt like they purposefully put in like these servo engines.

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 3>The sounds of.

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 4>His suit is like, uh has more strength than justush.

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 3>It's not him powering.

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 4>The suit it's the suit has power of it, and

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 4>that's why he's so easily able to wipe the floor

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.159
<v Speaker 4>with ding jar In and Bocatan.

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, and g of course cannot stand the sight of

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>his dad getting about to get executed by these prectorians,

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>which is when Grogu cries it is visceral and it

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>hits me so deeply.

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Give that folios some serious money.

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievad. I just find myself being like, how do

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>they make this sound?

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Why?

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>How do they make his.

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Eyes place inside you a feral protective place.

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, then it does trigger a response in me which is, oh, no,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 4>why is he here?

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Like we are going to cover that, and even more,

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 2>the end of this leaves me with more questions about

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 2>Din's parenting skills. But yeah, why is he that?

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Because they have to take them off get in.

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said, just leave the baby in the armor.

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Is he can handle him? He's worth too much money,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>he can handle himself.

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 4>Send them up to the ship with the trader ax

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.199
<v Speaker 4>woves yes, in a.

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Little baby, we'll look off to him.

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>So Grogu tries to intervene, but then the Paturnians are like, oh,

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>this guy is washed. Let's kill the baby first, because

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>we can come back to this, and they pursue Grogu,

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.400
<v Speaker 1>who is recoiling and afraid, and it is so heart

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>wrenching to like the side room, and now Dinn seeing

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>this happen, is like, oh my God, like, no, this

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>can't happen. Gideon is shooting him in the bag, He's

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>lasting we around the neck. And as all of this

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>is happening, Din is powerless to watch the blast doors

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 1>close with the three Pretorians in there with this little babysit.

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 1>But Grogu again, maybe I don't I wouldn't do it

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>this way, but maybe Dinn knows what he's doing. Grog

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>can handle himself. He flips out of the ig mech,

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 1>which is getting cut to piece the love.

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 2>That they were like throughout this season we were like, wow,

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>we need to count of how many times this baby

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 2>flips because they all like it's establishing that the baby

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 2>can flip. And when I go to this episode where

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>he flipped himself onto like the lighting Rick, I was like, Oh,

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>that's why they kept reminding us he could flip. He

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 2>can flip.

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:21.959
<v Speaker 1>Baby.

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 4>They got it's a that's another they've got its control option.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.719
<v Speaker 3>F Yeah, it just it just inserts a flip.

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Bo, who is fighting up in the you know,

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>all the Dark troopers up in the sky, looks down

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>sees maf Gideon down there fighting Din you know, and

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh, there's a moff Guindion's office, and she

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>slides down to join the fray. Now it's Gideon with

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>versus Bow. And again you have to say it have

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to hand it to Gideon. Nobody can take him. He

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>then wipes the floor with bow.

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And all I have to say is we need the

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Mandalorians need to study what mof Gadon did with this.

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Is what I'm saying. Out of all of the technology. Look,

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 2>we know that this technology is going to end up

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 2>in the Imperial hands and we're going to get somehow

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Palpatine retuned. But what I want to know is why

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 2>didn't anyone take the technology off this suit? Because we

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 2>have never seen anything like this in Star Wars.

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe against their religion to like mess augment the strength.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.719
<v Speaker 3>With the but like the Imperial is it Finn wearing

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 3>one of these suits?

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you?

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Thanks?

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Why you know, like, why aren't why aren't the Stormtroopers

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 3>of the New Order?

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Is that first, the first Why aren't the first it's

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 4>not the band New Order, That's why?

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Why was it? Why was Captain FAsMA so easy to

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>take down?

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, it seems like a prime example because this

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>suit is very FAsMA evocative.

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>So in the side room now, because Bo is taking

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the side off the side office, because Bo is getting

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>her ass whooped by mof Gideon, Din and Grogu team

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>up to stomp out the Praetorians. Grogu's force abilities are

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>really really evolved now. Also, he's quite nimble. See you

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>come at the running running across the lighting fixtures there.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I want to ask you guys a question. Yeah,

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>his force is evolved, but I'm guessing what do you

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>think he doesn't choke anyone out he used to be.

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Now he's kind of moving people with the force. Do

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>you think that's because he studied with the Jedi, like.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>He to use the They were like, yeah, that's dark,

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that's dark material. Please don't get lightning and chokes. Please

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>don't do lightning or chokes because he.

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Used to be a powerful force chroker.

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, he was just I felt like in the past

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 4>he was operating from just instinct.

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 3>He was he was operating just he's from emotion.

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 4>Rather, he was just things were happening around him and

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 4>he was just reactive. But now he's spent. You know what,

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 4>did Favro say that that two years? He was with

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 4>Luke for two years or something like that.

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>He's harnessed.

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 4>So he's done something. Yeah, he's done more. And what

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 4>we get out of it is he can move stuff

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 4>with the force and flip and.

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Cool running my little muppet running.

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh my god, the little the little the little

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 4>kermit feet were really great.

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>It makes me so happy when I see a puppet

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 2>with like, I absolutely love it.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>So they take out the Praetorians, uh and then.

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Go love by the way, love seeing the Praetorians.

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>It was really very exciting and can absolutely handle them.

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 3>One of the.

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Best contemporary Star Wars visualizations and creations. They're really scary

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and their weapons are so cool.

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 4>They're really really cool and also a great evolution of

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 4>a of a something that in the in those in

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 4>the old movies.

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Was just the cool. Those guys are red alwaysn't that neat?

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 4>What a great I have the figurine, What a great figure,

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 4>what a great what a great Kenner figurine or whatever

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 4>I had.

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>And then the booth it looks like a cool design, but.

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>What is it.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then in and Last Jedi they come in

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 4>and are just so that scene is maybe visualization.

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 2>It's one of my time favorite Star Feet.

0:30:58.120 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's such.

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>A great empory reintroduction. And to get to see them

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 2>here again and showcase that brutality and that fight is

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>just so good.

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if the ornamental nature of the Praetorians in

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the original trilogy isn't just because Palpatine was such a

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>bad as he didn't really need him. It's like, just

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>get me any guy.

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 2>He was so powerful with the force, like nobody even

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 2>knew that he was up to.

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>She's not a bodyguard, Like I don't who's getting into

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>this room anywhere. So then they go to they go

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to help a bow maf Gideon fighting Bow has her

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>at his mercy, crushes the Dark Saver in his mighty

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>armored up hand, which is here's the thousands of years

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>old artifact. One of the most important objects in Star

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Wars history. I think you could fairly say legendary and

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>one of.

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>The most powerful optifacts.

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's they got to fix it.

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, was it fake?

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Because it was. It had the heaviness to it, It

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>had that to be.

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>It was almost like he crushed the blade, which I

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>just can't sort of comprehend how he'd even be able

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to do it.

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 4>I was surprised again because I felt like the story

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 4>had been telling me he wants this blade back back, right,

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 4>It meant it meant something to him that he had it.

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 4>It meant something to him that he wanted it back,

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 4>and that it seems so easy for him to just

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 4>crush it and be like the Dark Saber is broken.

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so true because if we think about it,

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 2>he kept talking in the last episode about how he

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be the leader of it.

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Give me the give me the Dark.

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Mandlre. I've made these nightmare Man law iron Man suits,

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>so like, let's do it. Lets you have that was

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and he just he just crushed it.

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I know that was until his favorite clones got trash.

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>This is a temperatat Okay, Yes, he's smashing his toys.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>The way he says, my clone so mad about.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 3>It really is Jedi.

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 4>I feel like, throughout their history are constantly losing breaking

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 4>lightsabers all the time and then are having to go

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 4>and remake a new one, get another Kayber Crystal, you know,

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 4>build their lights and so that you get all these

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 4>different lightsabers that different people are carrying. But it seems

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 4>as though the legend of the Dark Saber.

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Is this is the one.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 4>That's yeah, yeah, this is the single one that's been

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 4>going for I don't know, thousands of years.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 3>It's a vizsla, right, yes, it's it's yeah, okay.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>But you you might be onto something actually, because a

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of what we've talked about with this show is

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 2>how we feel like with Gogu and Din, it's this

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>idea of like the Jedi and the Mandalorian coming together

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and these two schools of thought. Maybe because Bo's always

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of been a rebel, maybe we will see how

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 2>go on a journey to rebuild the Dark Saber. I

0:33:58.280 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 2>think that.

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 3>It's I think so. I think so just because it's cool.

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 4>I think it's cool, and I think I think I

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 4>think they didn't do anything to in breaking it. They

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.879
<v Speaker 4>didn't do anything to me that didn't feel like, oh,

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 4>it can be repaired and it still has meaning.

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, you still have like the handle.

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 2>So you've got something to go on from the original.

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>So the dark savers gone Bo's helmetless musketting punches across

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the room. Meanwhile, x Wolves is radioing in and he's like, guys,

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to nine to eleven the base. Okay, I'm

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>coming in. I'm coming it hot. There's flames coming with

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>this cattle ship. Amy gets straight to the base. So

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>now there's a clock ticking on this little fight here.

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Also, can I ask you, is that the ship that

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>at least twenty five thousand people spent painting.

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Of painting that by five gallons of paint.

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Do not tell anyone who's who's three generations of that

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 2>family spent painting that.

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I think it's took it took thirty years to paint that.

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 4>It also makes it impossible to use that ship covert.

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you always know who's coming.

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh Eve, an imperial ship, you can't sneak in anywhere.

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, it's the imperial Oh wait, no, it's

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 3>the man.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>It's somebody had like.

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Force sensitivity that was letting them know the future. And

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh, this ship's only gonna loast like

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>two weeks after we finish painting it, So let's just

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>go out.

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Some off getting into after crushing the dark shads, Mandalorian's

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>weak once they lose the trinkets, and Bo says no, no, no,

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Mandelins are stronger together, and here comes in and Grogu

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to help out. But I mean, I gotta say it again,

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>even they all together are really struggling to handle Gideon,

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>who is like throwing them around, eating blaster shots to

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the face. Grogu is like pushing him with the force.

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>He's still hanging on. It's very NATed to be.

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 2>A little bit more rough there with his That's my feeling.

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>It is only the devastating impact of the capital ship

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>follow by what could only what I only imagine is

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a massive nuclear explosion that finally takes down maf Gideon.

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>But you wonder what about our heroes, what happened to them? Well,

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and in it what can only be described as a

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>impressive he was saving it for that force display. Grogu

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>has kept them safe inside this force bubble as the

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>nuclear fires swirl all around them. The good guys. When

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Jason you were saying.

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I was just saying it.

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 4>I feel like they are powering and depowering Grogu throughout

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 4>the series Harry Match, you know, in the sense that

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 4>like in season one, he can literally freeze a mudhorn

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 4>in mid air that is fully charging forward, and here

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.359
<v Speaker 4>he can't seem to knock mof Gideon off the off

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 4>a ledge, you know what I mean. And that's that's

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 4>a bit of it. There's a bit of a confusion

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 4>for me there as to how strong is he and

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 4>when does he decide to exhibit it? And obviously this

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 4>you're right, it takes a profound amount of force to

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 4>hold them safe in a bubble while the fire rages

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 4>around them.

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 3>But you know that, I was also like, this is

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 3>a wild this is wild. What's happened?

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Let me give it? Let me profer a theory here.

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>We of course, we just mentioned how instinctively Grogu is

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>force choking folks and his pushes certainly are quite powerful,

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 1>but certainly not powerful enough to move Mafkidion. What if

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>what if Luke's whole thing was like, okay, you know,

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>light side of the force. It's defensive mainly, Yes, so

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 1>when he's strongest, when he is defending the people, because

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 2>He's been trained as. I just want to say this

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 2>sums up a problem for me. Look, I have just

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>want to say, I have a rebellion tie. I love Jedi,

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I grew up in stars, but I have issues with

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 2>the Jedi culture right, like and the way that they

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 2>like train children for war, etc. But like, this to

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>me is a problem. You spend two years with one

0:37:58.080 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 2>of the most famous Jedi in the world and he

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 2>basic dempowers you because like of the right way to

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 2>use the force. This is why I know it's not

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.479
<v Speaker 2>Cannon but gray Jedi. That space where you can play

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 2>with both sides. I think it's so powerful. I think

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 2>that you are probably right, and that Luke taught Grogu

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>to harness it for defensiveness. But I feel like protecting

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 2>his dad. He still has that love for him and

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 2>that power. I feel like I was expecting to see

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>him do more, but I love to.

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>See him do a little Susie.

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>It was very very cool. Uh, you know, Canaan Jarris

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>could never And also all right, I don't I don't

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.720
<v Speaker 1>know why I said that. I'm so sorry, edicated, Actually

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't like to apologize. You're like it felt bad

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>as it came out of my mind.

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Dare you malign I know.

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, sorry, but I will say one thing like that

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the bubble, Like he brings it down after thirty seconds,

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>there's no way that you could bring it down after

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>it would you'd probably be there for like thirty minutes.

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Way more way more oxygen in the air would be

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>burning them off the radioactive debris.

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Like everything I.

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Did, I did love one of my favorite moments, like

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 2>visually it's such a good, funny little gag is like

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Bo trying to protect them with her tiny shields and

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>she's like, I like, good for you, Bo, But it

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 2>was never gonna happen. No, definitely not safe unless grogus

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 2>like force filtering the air.

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was definitely like he was like a

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>light cruiser into from them.

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they can see see.

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 4>That's the thing is if they were in maff Gideon's office,

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 4>like tuck.

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Tucked into the mountain.

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Somewhere, I'd be like, okay, the blast, they could shield

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 4>themselves from the blast.

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 3>But they are watching the light cruiser descend in front

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 3>of them.

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Makes it's yeah, it makes no sense that they are

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 4>left not just alive, but fully unscathed.

0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh. Later on, the armorer blesses in a new geneneration

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>over at the Living Waters that includes our friend Grogu.

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Was that Ragnar who she was blessing? He is, right, yeah,

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>it was sorry about your dad.

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Never never, Yeah, it's it's Ragnar.

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 4>But I know both because of his helmet and also

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 4>because I watch everything with closed caption affections.

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 3>And when he spoke. When he spoke, he.

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Was credited because I was like, oh, I see. So

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>they're like, well, your dad's dead, so now you're going

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.320
<v Speaker 2>to get adopted into the mandlorin this is the way

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you Also, sorry, I just need this is actually from

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 2>last episode, but I do need to say this because

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 2>it relates to them adopting babies. What happened to the

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 2>bird dragons because them they did eat them amazing discord

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Uses found a screen grab of them roasting the baby

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 2>bird dragon things that both saved when she was like,

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 2>I've got foundlings, So I guess if you're tasty and

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you're not a humanoid.

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>That night, that night that all the tribes got together

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, hey, we got we'll make you dinner.

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It was they eat the baby.

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 3>It's got it's it's either got to be that. That

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 3>would be incredible that would be so incredible.

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 4>You know what it would be incredible is if next season,

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 4>because we all were like, you know what, guess what

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 4>these Mandalorians are going to be riding helmets. Yeah, these

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 4>these are going to be their mounts for when they

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 4>retake Mandolin and blah blah blah, And wouldn't it be

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 4>funny if they.

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Did do that next season? But there was only two

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 3>they just ate the one.

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.439
<v Speaker 2>I guess Ragna should be feeling lucky that they didn't

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:34.720
<v Speaker 2>just eat. And when when.

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Past died, so didn't Din steps up? And it's like, okay,

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>my my founding Grogu, I think you know we he

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>beat Moff, Gideon, saved Bow and my life. Yeah, let's

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>let's make him a true apprentice now and baptize him

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>in and then, in what can only be described as

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>an ablest policy, the Armor is like, well, he can't speak,

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:01.439
<v Speaker 1>so talk about it. Although I will say it from

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>a positive point of view, it is also clear to

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 1>me from the Armorer's voice performance, an excellent voice performance,

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that what the Armorer was trying to do was to

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.240
<v Speaker 1>get Dinn to formally adopt Grogan.

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>And it is also I think like a matter of consent.

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't want someone to just be bought into the

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Mandalori infection. Who can't agree that he wants to be that.

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Though it's very clear that Grogu, I mean, his the

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>way his face falls when it's like, sorry, you can't speak,

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>he's just like I was like, come on, I was.

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, is he gonna like do the creed

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and yo to speak? Like, is he gonna do it?

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:37.959
<v Speaker 2>But are we going to see the baby talk?

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:38.479
<v Speaker 1>I could.

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see where he was.

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Going, Rosie.

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 4>I thought that I had At one point, they at

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 4>one point close up on him right when he right

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 4>when it's right when normally he would talk because they're

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 4>saying he can't talk, he can't talk, he can't talk,

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 4>And then they close up on him, and I was like,

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 4>is he about to talk?

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 3>If he talks, I'm gonna fucking flip.

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>If he says can the way this is he says that.

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I don't. I'm curious what you what

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 4>you both think? I do not want Grogu to talk, period.

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that right now, no, And I think obviously

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, like Yoda was nine hundred, so we got

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>potentially fifty years before.

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was gonna say, and and Grogu is what

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 4>now what they say he was fifty when they got him.

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 4>From now he's fifty two, fifty three years old. Okay,

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 4>so you think in the last three years he's advanced

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 4>exactly much for a being that live to nine hundred.

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:37.959
<v Speaker 2>He's the baby. We love the baby also as well.

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 2>That can be something they can work up to. When

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 2>he inevitably shows up in the Ray movie as one

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 2>of her Judi students, like, somewhere down the line, we

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>may be.

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 3>I have no problem, you know, I keep it, keep it.

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:58.240
<v Speaker 1>The baby sou Grogu is re christened Din Grogu, a Mandolin,

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>an official Mandalin apprentice. Now Din and Jr. As part

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of the apprenticeship, have to travel the space ways together

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 1>as as Dinjarren shows his newly adopted son Ding Junior

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the ways of the Mandolorin so that it can become

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a full fledged Mandalorian. And as this is happening, the Misosaur,

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 1>which is slumbering below the waters, opens its eyes. There's

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>this wonderfully emotional moment where Bo relights the Great Forge

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and the Mandalorins are back. Great big cheer led by

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>axe Wolves, sorry ever.

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Down Okay, So when the baby just before the mythso

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 2>wakes up, the baby looks into the water and almost

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>like touches it with the force, like he knows the

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 2>mythisaurs down there.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 3>He can he can sense the mythosaur down there.

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's why the Mithisaur opens its eyes

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 4>as if it is right, I don't hearing sens or something. Yes,

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 4>so should we presume although I guess Grogu has had

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 4>has had contact with other animals some sort of like

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 4>so that maybe he has a the force allows him

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 4>to connect with this mythosaur. And I did really think

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 4>he would get more mythosaur.

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I thought that the Mandalorians being back on Mandalor, I

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 2>thought we would see bo on the mythosaur with the

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 2>dark saber fighting Gideon.

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 4>I feel like the same, and I feel like all

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 4>of the you know, all of the chatter around the

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 4>watching of the show successfully wrote a shadow version of

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 4>the season that I'm very intrigued by, where the Armorer

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 4>or ex Wolves are duplicitous double agents, where the Mythhisaur

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 4>comes out and Bocatan gets to ride it, like all

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:46.240
<v Speaker 4>this stuff that I'm like, yeah, yeah.

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, time to team up for our fan fit.

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I will say that it's the you know, a lot

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>probably happens off screen obviously, but it does also seem

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 1>as if either A bo is not really shared the

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Mithisaur news or b the Mandalorids are just bewhelmed about

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the Mythosaur's back, like we talk about this.

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my gut says I. I believe the shadow version

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 2>of this was at least probably kicked about at least

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>a bit about the mythisour being in the final episode.

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Now we know that there's going to be a movie.

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 2>I think you saved that for the movie. Who's gonna

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 2>ride the Mythosaur? Is it going to be both? I

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 2>think Grogu is rising up the mythosaur riding ranks now

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 2>that he's connection.

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 4>And you also have to figure the Mythosore has it

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 4>done right? That's a very expensive VFX.

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh exactly, And it's like something that canon wise, and

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 2>the amount of time that we've heard about it but

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 2>never seen it to really have the reveal is huge.

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.919
<v Speaker 2>And even though a finale of a big TV show

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.240
<v Speaker 2>like this would be a great place, I can understand

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>why they'd want people to see that on Imax in

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 2>the most.

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:55.720
<v Speaker 4>Expensive Honestly, probably why we didn't see those birds again

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 4>is because they are completely digital and if they're not

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 4>doing something integral to what's going on, then why are

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 4>we going to waste?

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:04.919
<v Speaker 3>Why burn the money on them?

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Now you could potentially take some of the Scott Lang

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Giant Man assets from you know, no from or from

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:22.799
<v Speaker 1>the From Endgame. Okay, so I was going to say,

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and reskin it from Missaur.

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that would be really easy. That's no

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 2>harm sentence. Okay, So what about this then? If we're

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about reusing assets, will the asset of Grogu saving

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 2>them in mof Gideon's office, is that going to be

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 2>used when we first see Sue Storm it will just

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 2>be the same bubble that's like the trade back.

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 3>That'd be great, Yeah, let's do it.

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, they're definitely testing out how to do the Fantastic

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Four powers.

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 1>In these In these movies and shows, I will say

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I did sense small moments where you you could kind

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:00.959
<v Speaker 1>of put your finger on the moment where it's like, okay,

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>here's where they tried to save money, you know, like

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 1>when Bo is leading the charge. She ignites the dark

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.760
<v Speaker 1>sab has it out. They only showed like her hand

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and about an inch of the handle, like, which is

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a weird shot.

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Right to not show the sword like an Authorian style moment.

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:22.720
<v Speaker 1>They say his five grand and don't show the whole sword.

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Get to go home on time today, just just to

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 2>be a little about the sword.

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.479
<v Speaker 1>So then didn't Grogu go and visit our good friend

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Captain Teva. I love to see him, love to see

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>him at the tropical. I'm like you already stay down.

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 4>All I wanted, I like screamed, please let Zeb meet Grogu.

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>All I want.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.840
<v Speaker 3>All I wanted was for Ze to meet Grogu in

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:47.959
<v Speaker 3>the bar. Please just give him.

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 2>A little like nod while the baby's like eating his

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 2>snacks or something.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 1>So the New Republic is, of course stoked that the

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Mandos took out Gideon and for free, like they cost

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>them zero credits for this. Uh, and then Mando pitches

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Captain on a team.

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't even get me thought.

0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 1>He basically says, listen, Grogu and I will hunt imperials

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 1>right off the books. Okay, uh, this is not a

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.720
<v Speaker 1>New Republic operations, just you and me talking. You slide

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 1>us some credits under the table. We'll take you.

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 3>We'll do the wet work. Me and my child will baby.

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, He pitches it as he

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>says to him, I've got a baby. Now, I've got

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:30.799
<v Speaker 2>some I've got something. He's like, I can't be doing

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 2>that dangerous stuff. I'm just gonna become an assassin from

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 2>remnants and bring my child. That is more dangerous than

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 2>being a bounty Hannah.

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Now, I I wonder if what he was saying was

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I can't be doing this immoral bounty hunting and where

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.879
<v Speaker 1>it's just like I'm bringing everybody in. I'm bringing everybody in, droys. Yeah,

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I have different kind of aliens that.

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 2>He wants to just and of the legitimacy of people.

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 1>That just like didn't pay their parking tickets, Like, now,

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 1>what if I just go after peace people who were

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>probably bad? I mean we're talking about imperial Yes.

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 4>No, I think that's when because doesn't he say something

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 4>like I wanted to, I can't go back to being

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 4>just a bounty hunter.

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 3>It needs it needs to matter or something like that.

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, so uh and he says, listen, you

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 1>can you can in terms of payment, which you are

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 1>going to pay us because we're going to work for this,

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>but you can give us an advance. And that advance

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.399
<v Speaker 1>is that ig head that my son just spotted above

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 1>your mar which is by the way, quite horrific to

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 1>just have a droid anyway. Uh. And then closing a

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 1>loop on the memoryship plotline.

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 2>When we say it was over, let's give an apology

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 2>to didn't because we really thought he was distracted.

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>We thought that they just had forgotten about the memoryship.

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's back back on Navarro. Grief, our good friend,

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>High Magistrate Grief Karga gives Mando the keys and the

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>deed to his beautiful news a piece of land. And

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>by the way, with all the Mandalorians back on Man,

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.880
<v Speaker 1>he now has like this huge That's what.

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 4>I was wondering, did he get the whole land that

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 4>Greek because that was such a weird moment in the

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:12.839
<v Speaker 4>in the season where they they they rescue or they

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:16.320
<v Speaker 4>save Navarro. The Mandalorians intercede in Navarro with the pirates.

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:20.080
<v Speaker 4>They are awarded this enormous piece of land and they

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 4>immediately depart.

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 3>They're given they're given up.

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 4>They're given a home area to make their to make

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 4>themselves at home, and they immediately go to retake mandl

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Or totally fine. But when they came back, did is

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 4>that where Dnjarren is?

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:36.919
<v Speaker 3>Or did? Did he did?

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 4>It was with Grief Cark like, I'm so sorry man,

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.160
<v Speaker 4>after you guys left, I gave that away.

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 3>So I've just I've just got.

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 1>This little cabin right. That was a deal for the

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>existing Mandlarn people, like, I'm sure you understand, like I

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>have to just like a thousand square feet I had

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to take some of that back. But no, I think

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that is all. I think that was all of their land.

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it was. It does look like very barren

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 2>and not a bad way.

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.799
<v Speaker 4>But like that, it's very much like the end of

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 4>a Western you know, like it's like very much like out.

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 3>On the planes.

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 4>He kicks up his feed he's got there's even like

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 4>there's even like, uh, you know posts in front of

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:17.760
<v Speaker 4>the house too that you would attach your horse.

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 2>And they do the little favor.

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So then Manda says, well, Grief, guess what I have

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a gift for you. Check this out, And next thing

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.240
<v Speaker 1>we know, we see a refurbished I G eleven.

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 4>First we see gens. First, we see the works.

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Who worked very hard on this right, and here we

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>see refurbished I G. Eleven walking up saying good evening citizens.

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:44.799
<v Speaker 1>I am I G eleven your new marshall. I am

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 1>here to serve and protect the Citrus citizenry. And the

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 1>crowd goes, wow, grief, Cargon is chirt, And I just

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>have to say, what's We've talked a lot about the

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:55.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of questionable politics around droids here in this world.

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>This is very funny to me that everybody is like,

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:03.799
<v Speaker 1>we've the bottomize and other folks, he will only follow order.

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Is this droid no longer has any free will? And

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:09.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody's like yes, yes.

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 2>It's especially fucked up because like Dynn literally was like,

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>that's my friend. That's the only droid I trust. I

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 2>need his memory chip back because I trust him. And

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 2>then he was like, I don't need imaturally, you guys

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 2>have him. He can just be all like please seven.

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.799
<v Speaker 1>And he very specifically says, and I forget what the

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 1>exact wording is, but I G. Eleven basically says, listen,

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I will just follow orders.

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I Am not gonna go and do weird things and

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>bounty hunt on the side. I am just strictly the

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Marshall and it's great to see you. Big cheers from

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 1>everybody and listen. I guess we until more information emerges

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and we know exactly what was doing with Ig eleven,

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 1>we can't really say. But it did feel a little weird,

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:54.839
<v Speaker 1>you know what, from the dead.

0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 4>That's what I couldn't figure out, was though, like I

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:03.240
<v Speaker 4>didn't need Ig eleven to come back, like I wasn't.

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Frankly, to me, I that moment where Ig eleven.

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 4>Sacrifices himself so that they can escape the lava flow,

0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:14.000
<v Speaker 4>et cetera, et cetera, I loved and was such an

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 4>incredibly moving So the idea that, oh, now we have

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:19.719
<v Speaker 4>to bring him back, but not bring him back as

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 4>the character we loved, but bring him back as a

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:25.760
<v Speaker 4>mind wiped like automaton. I was like, yeah, I don't

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.879
<v Speaker 4>quite get I feel like this because also because it's

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 4>the last beat, I feel like we're supposed to be like, yeah,

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 4>my guy, you know, And I was like, yeah, why

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 4>exactly it is?

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:41.320
<v Speaker 2>It is especially weird because didn't even says to Teva,

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>he says, you know, oh, that reminds him of someone

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 2>he used to know, so he even has that emotional thing,

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:51.200
<v Speaker 2>but then they just turn him into like it's like, also,

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:53.799
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you need a certain amount of sentience to be

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 2>a marshal that is not like a I.

0:54:55.719 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Mean, listen, we just watched two episodes of grog riding

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:03.760
<v Speaker 1>around in the carcass of Dinn's professed friends.

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:10.080
<v Speaker 2>We're doing comedy beats with the soup board. Yes yes, yes, yes,

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 2>no no.

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 4>How great would it have been if, like I g

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.239
<v Speaker 4>eleven is there like I'm your new marshall, welcome, thank

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 4>you people or whatever, and Groglu's just cling at his

0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 4>chest trying to get in.

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, he just pops out of the chest and

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 2>he's like yes, yes, yes, and it's Gregor.

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I hope they do get him a new little mech

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:29.879
<v Speaker 1>because he really seemed to enjoy it, and he took

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to it that Matt he was very good at piling

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:33.840
<v Speaker 1>in it. And then we get to the end where,

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:37.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously a very a wonderful Western beat. There's

0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:41.759
<v Speaker 1>so much classic Star Wars stuff here with you know,

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 1>all the kind of thematic beats, and then here leaning

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:48.720
<v Speaker 1>into the Western themes that have always been there. President

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of Star Wars, we see the home on the range.

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Jason mentioned the post where you would tie up your horse,

0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 1>tie up your blur.

0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Greg who's playing with a little frog in the cree

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:01.439
<v Speaker 2>eating definitely.

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:04.320
<v Speaker 1>And then Dan, you know, kicking up his feet, taking

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a much needed rest and relaxation. And it felt like

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 1>a very hard and definitive end felt this chapter of

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the Mandalorian Who knows what comes after? Well, I think,

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 1>what do you think?

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you know.

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 4>I think that you know this season and you know, frankly,

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 4>and I love again, I love this show. I've loved

0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 4>spending all of this time both watching these episodes, waiting

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:38.839
<v Speaker 4>until midnight every Tuesday night and just rushing these episodes

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:42.600
<v Speaker 4>and being really engaged and delighted by so much of

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 4>what they've done, confused and confounded at some of the

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:46.919
<v Speaker 4>other things that were done.

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 3>But I definitely think that's.

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:51.919
<v Speaker 4>A lot of the kind of unevenness or or any

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 4>of the kind of stuff that people have been confused

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 4>by or or or weren't quite tracking were part and

0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:01.640
<v Speaker 4>parcel of a much different version of the show this season.

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 3>This season was definitively a heavily.

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 4>Serialized narrative, whilst one thrust of a story with lots

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.439
<v Speaker 4>of characters, and I feel like at the end, when

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 4>when the armor is like now you have to the

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:19.160
<v Speaker 4>armorer basically says now next season you can go on

0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 4>your adventures exactly.

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's what they have a Villain of the Week.

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 3>And I don't think so.

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 4>I think the setup is now they're gonna now they're

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 4>looking out. They don't We're not gonna be like with

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:32.440
<v Speaker 4>them on mandal or we're not gonna be inside of

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 4>that story anymore. I think that chapter is done and

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 4>the next chapter will open up, probably as it relates

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 4>to them. My guests is Dinn and Grogul will be

0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 4>enlisted in the Ahsoka.

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Live Action Rebels Crew throng narrative.

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Right, They're gonna somehow be sucked into that story that

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 4>is the result of whatever happens in ah Soca.

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 2>That's my hope, at least I think that's true. So

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<v Speaker 2>do you think, and this is for both of you, like,

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 2>do you do you think we'll ever get another season

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:05.360
<v Speaker 2>called the Mandalorian, because that's not That's what I'm not

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 2>sure of. I think we'll get Ahsoka. I think this

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:09.720
<v Speaker 2>will tie into it, But you know, Is it going

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:11.680
<v Speaker 2>to be like Din and the Baby? Is it going

0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 2>to be like Grogu? Is it?

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 4>I think just for marketing, I think just on a

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 4>craven business level, the Mandalorian is too big a property

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 4>like Comparatively, the Mandalorian is enormous and their flagship and

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 4>is huge for them versus a show that I know

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 4>we all just were obsessed with and or my understanding

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:36.120
<v Speaker 4>is underperformed for them. So yeah, I think they will

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 4>keep putting, they'll make a Mandalorian show. But I wouldn't

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 4>be surprised if there's a season like this season at

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 4>some point where a Mandalorian season is where Din and

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 4>Grogu are side characters again.

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you see them rebuilding of Mandalori.

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or you see them inside of the Rebels crew

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 4>doing something that they're you know, they've signed on to

0:58:59.200 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 4>do with them. You know, they they could be, they

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 4>could both be, which I like, And this makes it

0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:08.080
<v Speaker 4>a very creatively interesting show, which is you can tell

0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 4>individual stories. You can tell the case of the week,

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Monster of the Week stories for a while, but then

0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 4>you can also make ensemble based shows in which Din

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:20.560
<v Speaker 4>and Grogu are just part of a larger ensemble and

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 4>that I love.

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah do.

0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:27.760
<v Speaker 1>We later find out that Din and Grogu were round

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:31.120
<v Speaker 1>for the big battles in the most recent Star Wars trilogy.

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 1>How do they how do they in your mind theorizing now,

0:59:36.520 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>how do they explain away the lack of attendance in

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the big, big fight scenes from Grogu and Din.

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they build in some kind of story.

0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Because I ask because I I was a little bit

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 1>worried they were gonna killed in at the end of

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the d the fight was non zero worried, like I.

0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Had the feel just also as well, like Pedro's busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Comments about the comments from the showrunners about this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually an exact about help well, this is the Mandalorian

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<v Speaker 1>refers to them, is not just it. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of worried.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also notable in no live action, he's not the

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<v Speaker 4>helmet doesn't come off at all exactly. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>a first this season is the first time we right

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<v Speaker 4>because at the end of both.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think there was a lot of people even

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<v Speaker 2>wondering what that meant on a business level of being

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<v Speaker 2>a leading person who doesn't have your face shown at

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<v Speaker 2>any point in any episode of a season, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely interesting stuff. I think that they will probably do

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<v Speaker 2>a story beat that says, Grogu is the future of

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<v Speaker 2>the Force. Grogu is the most powerful, a mega level mutant,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to hide him from Palpatine from everyone else,

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<v Speaker 2>and then him and Dinn will be hidden somewhere off

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<v Speaker 2>on a moon or something, and that's why they weren't there.

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<v Speaker 2>But also you could imagine him being kind of retroactively.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, he was behind a tree, like doing

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<v Speaker 2>some forced stuff now.

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<v Speaker 4>You also, it also opens up the question to where

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<v Speaker 4>why isn't Ezra part of Yes, part of raised Big

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<v Speaker 4>Big Why is part of Ray's story?

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<v Speaker 3>He would truly be like a senior Force user.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>My hope is that there are very cool, very creative

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<v Speaker 4>ways to tell those stories. Wouldn't it be what if

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<v Speaker 4>the reason that they're not is because Ezra and Grogu

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<v Speaker 4>are What if Grogul becomes like Ezra's padawan and they go.

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<v Speaker 1>On it exactly exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, No, I love that idea. And now that

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<v Speaker 2>we're in this outer rim space and this wider ideas

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<v Speaker 2>of the galaxy, there are multiple different conflicts happening. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not just what we know from the main timeline and

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<v Speaker 2>the main the main trilogy. So I think there's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a space. And we've been saying it's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best things. We all love the animed stuff. They're start

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<v Speaker 2>to do with these live action shows what they've always

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<v Speaker 2>done with animation, which is expand on and add context

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<v Speaker 2>to these moments that make you say, oh, why did

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<v Speaker 2>that happen? Or why wasn't so and so there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think in Asoka especially and probably further seasons of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mandlaurian, we will get those answers. Where was Ezra,

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<v Speaker 2>where was Grogu? How do these things tie in? And

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<v Speaker 2>why weren't they a part of these stories that came after?

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<v Speaker 7>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Huge? Huge?

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<v Speaker 1>Any final thoughts?

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<v Speaker 4>My final thoughts are I really enjoyed it? I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, again, this is one of my favorite shows.

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<v Speaker 4>I would I would cut off my arm to be

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<v Speaker 4>on this show.

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<v Speaker 3>I would. I want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to be. Star Wars is my stories,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like this is. I'm fifty. I grew up

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<v Speaker 4>on these movies from the time they were coming out

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<v Speaker 4>in theaters, the original trilogy. These are my movies. These

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<v Speaker 4>are my stories. This is what I'm This is a

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<v Speaker 4>world that I love being inside of.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like it's it'll happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, I was gonna say it's inevitable.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the amount of improv world people that have

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<v Speaker 1>already played on the show is quite notable. It is

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, oh no crazy Kevin Dorr character.

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<v Speaker 2>If they came to you and said who do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to play and you get to pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, you know what.

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<v Speaker 7>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>What I would love to play is there are characters

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<v Speaker 4>that I would love to play, But I would love

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<v Speaker 4>to play someone in like the Acolyte or someone Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to play someone in the High Republic era,

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<v Speaker 4>or someone in this James Mangold movie if that ever

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<v Speaker 4>gets made. I'd love to play a character who's an

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<v Speaker 4>unknown that I that is, you know, that is able

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<v Speaker 4>to be defined by the performance, rather than wouldn't it

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<v Speaker 4>be cool to be Quinlan Voss? Wouldn't it be cool

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<v Speaker 4>to do Dark Disciples and be Quinlan Voss? You know, no,

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<v Speaker 4>it would be, but you know, like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that's ever gonna originate.

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<v Speaker 2>A character in that world.

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<v Speaker 3>These are my stories. This is what I love.

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<v Speaker 4>So any time that I can spend and with characters

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<v Speaker 4>in this world, and then also consuming all the podcasts

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<v Speaker 4>and all this stuff. Just during the time that this

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<v Speaker 4>season has aired, I've been so excited and having so

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<v Speaker 4>much fun inside Star Wars. I've rewatched Rebels again, and

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<v Speaker 4>I've rewatched the last three seasons of Clone Wars again

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<v Speaker 4>just because I was having so much fun being inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Star Wars stories.

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<v Speaker 4>So I had a great time, even though I did

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<v Speaker 4>genuinely feel like the season was a little uneven for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I my thought would be I understand the and

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat share the criticism of being uneven. I considering the

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<v Speaker 1>ambitions that they had, which was to kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>tie up these final mof Gideon threads and tie down

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<v Speaker 1>the the you know, retaking of mandalor kind of plot lines,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there was almost no way to do it

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<v Speaker 1>without it feeling like a lumpier show, and it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>feels like there's there's also a, in true Dave ful

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<v Speaker 1>Any style, a kind of larger mission to tie into

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<v Speaker 1>the most recent trilogy and shore up some of the

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<v Speaker 1>I get, you know, for lack of a better word,

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<v Speaker 1>weak spots in the trilogy. That's what I think my

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<v Speaker 1>main note is that, like, I am shocked still at

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<v Speaker 1>the power that this puppet.

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<v Speaker 2>Has over me.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time they do a one shot a Warner of

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<v Speaker 1>this of this puppet's face, every time it makes some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of cooing sound or or presses the button to

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<v Speaker 1>say yes or no, it is. I could watch that

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<v Speaker 1>for two hours. I could just watch it cooing and

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<v Speaker 1>making facial making different faces. It's to the emotion that

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<v Speaker 1>this fucking puppet carries, it is and.

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<v Speaker 4>The emotion that it can elicit, you know, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's incredible, it conveying. It's an incredible job they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Emo.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an incredible performance literally, yes, from the from the

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<v Speaker 4>puppet and the VFX operators, and it's incredible. But then

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<v Speaker 4>it makes me like when Groku is you know, sous

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<v Speaker 4>storming everybody in the in the invisible shield, I'm like crying.

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<v Speaker 4>He's saving his mom and dad. I'm crying. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's very emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>It greatly is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm grateful every day that Werner has called them cowards

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<v Speaker 2>and told them to use the puppet, because truly we

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<v Speaker 2>need more puppets in our life. Yeah, I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>both of you. I think you covered it up very well.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say I am a huge fan of the

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday Morning Adventure aspect of sci fi, of Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that shape George Lucas in making this

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<v Speaker 2>the trilogy originally. So for me, I actually enjoy the

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<v Speaker 2>wild Romp adventures and the side quests and the Plazia fifteens,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's easier for me to feel that I can

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<v Speaker 2>I can sand out the unevenness because I like when

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<v Speaker 2>it goes back to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh one more question, are we gonna Are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to tie up the G sixty eight loosens and the

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<v Speaker 1>MNSTY program the very clear uh you know neo Imperial

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<v Speaker 1>plot that is slowly unfurling there on Coruscant, which is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the project to create Snoke and bring back Palpatine

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<v Speaker 1>like further down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well do you think that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let me ask you this, do you think that

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think Moff Gideon is dead?

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<v Speaker 1>Dead dead?

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't sure. I thought, you know, we know, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>really dies. We saw it off all dimes, so happened there, spider,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, But I actually do think the explosion was

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<v Speaker 2>big enough that he is I'm like ninety percent on

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<v Speaker 2>the dead side ten percent on a like general grievous situation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only way.

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<v Speaker 4>We can come well, because like we've invested some much

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<v Speaker 4>time in his spy network. You know, it's his spies

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<v Speaker 4>that got to that are inside the New Republic. It's

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<v Speaker 4>his spies that get to pershing in the mind flare,

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<v Speaker 4>like all of that stuff. If he's gone, does that

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<v Speaker 4>spine network just go to someone else? Or yeah, to

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<v Speaker 4>your point, will we never see them again? Because we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that G. I think G sixty eight eliot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she is actually going to be like a

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<v Speaker 2>very big connecting thread between all of these stories as

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<v Speaker 2>basically the representative of the Imperial remnants. So if that

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<v Speaker 2>spy network goes to anyone, I think it's her, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think she keeps it alive. I love that performance

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<v Speaker 2>that Katie O'Brien did. She's so nefarious and so villainous.

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<v Speaker 4>I would also love to see her as a thron spy.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love it if she if Thron saw in

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<v Speaker 4>her this is this is someone I can use to

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<v Speaker 4>my advantage. That would be so you know, and that

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<v Speaker 4>would be great if if basically thrown enters and just

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<v Speaker 4>takes over the vacuum left by Maff Gideon's death.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes a lot of sense. And also mof was

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<v Speaker 2>outspokenly against Thrawn and constantly presented himself as a better

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<v Speaker 2>option or suggested they were beout options. And Thorn is

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<v Speaker 2>a very egotistical person, So I think that taking over

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<v Speaker 2>from Moff Gideon, who didn't survive. And also if we

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<v Speaker 2>look at the mall situation, that could also set up

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<v Speaker 2>something very cool if ten years down the line they

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<v Speaker 2>actually wanted to bring Moff back and it's him and

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<v Speaker 2>thrown in that kind of competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Will say that I believe that Maff Gideon is dead

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<v Speaker 1>dead only because it was you know, a feat of

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<v Speaker 1>the force, right, that Palpatine was able to take his

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<v Speaker 1>consciousness at the moment of death and move it to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like beam in over Wi Fi to his clone.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would assume that that is not something that

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<v Speaker 1>Gideon has either the wherewithal to do through the force.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly it had no completed his project of and right

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<v Speaker 1>his only force experiments anyway, and that in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the technology required to move his mind at the moment

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<v Speaker 1>of death to a place I would assume that he

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<v Speaker 1>is not capable of doing that. That's not something that

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<v Speaker 1>he would be able to do. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he is for real dead, And I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the Spy Network. I wonder if Thron

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<v Speaker 1>takes it over at a certain point and that becomes

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<v Speaker 1>the Snoke Project. Well, it was wonderful to talk Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun. Up Next, Comics Corner, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Hive Mind, where we explore a topic and more detail

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<v Speaker 1>with the help of expert guests. This week, Jason Manzucus

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<v Speaker 1>tells us what he's reading. So I will just say,

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<v Speaker 1>off rip that I am behind. But Jason, you're such

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<v Speaker 1>a well read person. What are you reading it?

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<v Speaker 7>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>You know I'm also behind, I will admit, And it

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<v Speaker 4>is you know, as a comics reader, I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 4>comics readers you both understand that feeling when you look

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<v Speaker 4>over where your comics are and suddenly, suddenly, somehow there's

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<v Speaker 4>piles of stuff and you're like, oh God, what is this?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's interesting what I choose to read, what I

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<v Speaker 4>choose to keep going with, and a lot of that

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<v Speaker 4>tells you, like what I'm loving, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 4>like I will still.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been a.

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<v Speaker 4>Completist on hell Boy stories, yeah, from the beginning basically,

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<v Speaker 4>And so those are books I always read partially because

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<v Speaker 4>they usually come in digestible stories single, one shots, two shots,

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<v Speaker 4>or four issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Max tell a story in Hellboy, and so I keep

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<v Speaker 3>up with that. I love that. The what was the

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<v Speaker 3>Cliff Chang Catwoman book that came out?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it called Lonely City?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's called City Something.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was fantas I love Cliff Chang, so

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was just fantastic. So beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm another one of the artists that I really like.

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<v Speaker 4>Declan Schalvey has a new book out right now called

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<v Speaker 4>I Think Old Man, The Old The Old Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's called I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>There's only been a couple of issues so far, and

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<v Speaker 4>I read that, which I really liked.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie, what about you? What are you reading?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So yesterday was I'm also behind on the weekly

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<v Speaker 2>single issues. It's hard to keep up. There's so many

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<v Speaker 2>great comics. But yesterday it was the eight if an

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary of Superman's first appearance and Lois Lane's first appearance,

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<v Speaker 2>and DC released this absolutely gorgeous Lowest Lane graphic novel

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<v Speaker 2>called Girl Taking Over. It's by Ariel Jo Vilanos and

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Coon, who is so such a brilliant writer, and

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<v Speaker 2>together it's just unbelievable. It's got gorgeous colours by Olivia Puccini.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got Melanie yu Jumori did the letters, which are

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<v Speaker 2>super dynamic, and it's basically Lowis Lane and she's Asian

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<v Speaker 2>American and she's going to National City to start her

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<v Speaker 2>dream internship and it is this coming of age journalism

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mystery. But it's so vibrant and so colorful.

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<v Speaker 2>I love those DCYA graphic novels, and this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best that they've done. And it's a great

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<v Speaker 2>thing to read because it's eighty five years of Lewis Lane.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's been a big one for me, as always

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<v Speaker 2>reading a lot of reading a lot of manga. I

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<v Speaker 2>recently read Sticking on the DC. I recently reread Rachel

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<v Speaker 2>Pollock's Doom Patrol Run. We sadly lost Rachel recently a

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<v Speaker 2>really trailblazing transcreator. Her Doom Patrol Run that she took

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<v Speaker 2>over from Grant Morrison is so good, and they recently

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<v Speaker 2>collected it for the first time. Oh, it's unbelievable. If

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<v Speaker 2>you love Doom Patrol, if you love Grant Morrison, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to read it. She takes it over with Richard

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<v Speaker 2>Case the series penciler Stam walks on there and it

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<v Speaker 2>is just so subversive and a truly great follow up

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<v Speaker 2>to Morrison's Doom Patrol on which is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh, that's great because like that's a Doom Patrol a book.

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<v Speaker 4>I have almost zero knowledge of D Like DC in general,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very ignorant of is so much so that I

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<v Speaker 4>would love if and I don't want to put you

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<v Speaker 4>on the spot, but if you have any recommendations, I've

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<v Speaker 4>recently watched a ton of the animated a ton of

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<v Speaker 4>the DC animated movies, right YEI, which I'd only seen

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<v Speaker 4>a couple here and there, and I just watched a

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<v Speaker 4>whole bunch of them that were all about John Constantine. Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>another character that I'm woefully ignorant of. So if you

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<v Speaker 4>have like runs or you know, go this writer or

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<v Speaker 4>this era or whatever I want to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>It, You're going to be very happy. Because Constantine was

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<v Speaker 2>created by Alan Moore, so you're in a good place. YEA,

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<v Speaker 2>the brilliant space. I would say the old school, the

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<v Speaker 2>ago hell Blazer, which is what his story was, is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best places to go. They actually recently

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<v Speaker 2>did a really incredible John Constantine y a graphic novel

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<v Speaker 2>in that same series, which is a really good jumping

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<v Speaker 2>on point that I adored, and it has really really

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful art. There's so many good ones. I love Mike Carey.

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<v Speaker 2>He did a great hell Blazer run. So you're really

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<v Speaker 2>blessed because John Constantine is basically it's all good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just such a great character. I love him so much. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, if you want to watch more John Constantine,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't hit the version that Matt Ryan did in

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<v Speaker 2>Legends of Tomorrow. You can just skip to when he joins.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I love all of Legends, but it's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Book is like an incredible John Constantine and he actually

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<v Speaker 2>ended up voicing him in some of those later movies too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, cool, Yeah, I've watched none of that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's a joyous queer superhero romp through space. Great,

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<v Speaker 2>very very star Wars in that way, like Villain of

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<v Speaker 2>the week kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you guys ever read Johanna the Chris Book?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that book.

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<v Speaker 4>That book is absolutely fantastic and dible, all ages book

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<v Speaker 4>that I cannot recommend, especially if you have a young

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<v Speaker 4>person in your life who you want to read comics

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<v Speaker 4>or who does read comics. Chris Somney maybe one of

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite artists right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well then I'm gonna actually one of the other

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<v Speaker 2>books I was going to recommend, which you will definitely

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<v Speaker 2>love if you love that comic. There's this great new

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<v Speaker 2>publisher called Saturday Am that's trying to like replicate kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the shown and Jump like Manga magazine. They have

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<v Speaker 2>this book called gun Hild by Fred Tornega, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love this book. It's like a girl She's it's all

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<v Speaker 2>ages comic. It feels very much in that same vein,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's about a girl who's like a twelve year

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<v Speaker 2>old who lives in a world of Norse gods, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like feels a bit like fantasy sports

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<v Speaker 2>and a bit it's just a really great all ages

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<v Speaker 2>kind of romp through this fantastical world with this really dynamic,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful art. So it's so good. I'm a huge fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they just collected it in print recently.

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<v Speaker 1>I have one thing to recommend, even though I am behind,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is an older not older, but a recent

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<v Speaker 1>but but it's the run is finished. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the Good Asian Yes, which is now Oh incredible books.

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<v Speaker 2>Incredible adapted to company.

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<v Speaker 1>By porn Sac Pisiste and Alexander TCHEFENGI beautiful, gritty, pulpy

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<v Speaker 1>art this morning. A really really cool story about a

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese American detective on the trail of a killer during

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<v Speaker 1>the era of the Chinese Exclusion ACTU just really really great,

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful read, and it's a finished story. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to pick something up that you can just be

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<v Speaker 1>done with with definitive ending. Uh, it's available there in

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<v Speaker 1>trade paperback, multiple volume trade paper I'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Throw out another recommendation because it's a mashup of two

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<v Speaker 4>things that I really love, which is the I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>fan of all really was the very into the Kirkman

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<v Speaker 4>Walking Dead books as they were coming out, very into

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<v Speaker 4>the Walking Dead. I never really converted into a TV

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<v Speaker 4>show watcher by I loved that comics run and but

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<v Speaker 4>one of my favorite comics writer and artists Tilly Walden

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<v Speaker 4>has done, has done now a story and now a

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<v Speaker 4>second one is coming out set in that world called Clementine.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>Tilly Walden incredible, uh has has put out a number

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<v Speaker 4>of truly incredible on a sunbeam spinning graphic novels that

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<v Speaker 4>are just.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the best cartoonists working at the moment. Without question, Are.

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<v Speaker 4>You Listening is another one of hers that are just

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<v Speaker 4>really fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I loved Clementine also has it's got disabled protagonist

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<v Speaker 2>because it's Clementine from the Walking Deck Games. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's set an Amish country, which is something I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I've never really seen in comics. I loved that

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<v Speaker 2>comics so much. I actually chatted to Tilly about it

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<v Speaker 2>Polygon with just a really great interview. Tilly was recently

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<v Speaker 2>made the Comics Laureate of Vermont.

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<v Speaker 3>We really yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh that's rare.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those Clementine comics are red and you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fans did not approach them in a

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<v Speaker 2>supportive way because, as we know, some top fandoms can

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<v Speaker 2>be quite toxic. So I would just say go out

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<v Speaker 2>and read.

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<v Speaker 1>Those wait really, oh yeah, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 3>But Rosie is certainly not comics.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately. That is the case. Let's see, since we spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time talking about the Mandalorian in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is, you know, on some level inspired by

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<v Speaker 1>the classic Wolf and Cub comics. You know, anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>have an older warrior with a baby, the baby, it

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<v Speaker 1>can only be inspired by a Wolf and Cub. Any

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<v Speaker 1>particular favorite Wolf and Cub stories for either of you, Rosie.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would say, if you haven't read it, go

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<v Speaker 2>and read Lone Wolf and Cub. Dark Horse has multiple

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<v Speaker 2>collections of them. It's like one of the most influential

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<v Speaker 2>comics ever made. It's the writer is Kazu Koike, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the artist was go Cy Kajima. And these are

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<v Speaker 2>just some of the most astonishingly brilliant comics. They have

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<v Speaker 2>played a huge influencer. Frank Miller, for example, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel about him, that is someone who deeply

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<v Speaker 2>took from those comics. I would say that's the place

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<v Speaker 2>to go, especially as we're about to watch you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Grogu and didn't go on this journey. They became assassins

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, so it's very so I would say the

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<v Speaker 2>classic Lone wolfh and Cub. There's so many collections. They're brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>You can probably get them from the library. It's this

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful samurai story. One of the most famous manger of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. Also, I'll put out there just any Wolverine

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<v Speaker 2>story where he was with a kid days. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>Wolverine is the like good Lone Wolf and Cub.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, he really like as a reader of the

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<v Speaker 4>time too. It like Wolverine really became one of my

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<v Speaker 4>favorites when he would get paired with Jubilee exactly, when

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when they would go on and adventure together.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that's the balance that you want, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope they keep that whenever they whoever they cost as Wolverine.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, now I'm like, are they gonna cost

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<v Speaker 2>Pager as Wolverine? Like is that happening? Because this really

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<v Speaker 2>feels like they're setting him up for it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they keep that because I think that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite Western iterations in comics, is Wolverine as

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of he's the cranky dad, yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like he has to look after all these annoying mutant

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<v Speaker 2>kids and it's like he doesn't want to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he really loves to do it, but he can

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<v Speaker 2>still kill you with his adamantium clause.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what one of my favorite recent comics run is

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<v Speaker 1>over now. But Wolverine and the X Men, when Wolverine

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<v Speaker 1>was basically the headmaster of the school for a period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, it was so fun because it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that was like prime cranky dad in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of like all these preteen and teenage kids who are

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<v Speaker 1>just like you, old man.

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<v Speaker 2>He's refereeing the baseball games.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely fun. Any any final Lone Wolf and Cub.

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<v Speaker 3>Mixed, Jason, You know, I'm trying. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm having trouble coming up with other comics because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>stuck on like oh yeah, like true Grit falls in

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<v Speaker 4>like Exaust that's a great Lone wolfing uh and Cub

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<v Speaker 4>story type story. The Sam Mendy's movie, what's the movie

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<v Speaker 4>with Tom Hanks where he's got his son and.

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<v Speaker 1>There he wrote todition thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>On a comic.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right. I'd never read it

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<v Speaker 4>though I don't I didn't process.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're right, you'll be You'll be okay with it

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<v Speaker 2>Lone Wolf and cop I will also say, brilliant movies.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want more of that, to see where

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<v Speaker 2>that influence came from, you can really get to enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Batman and Robin, you know, like when exactly

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<v Speaker 4>exactly when they've really leaned into it, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>the you know they Frank Frank Miller's done it, Like

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<v Speaker 4>when they really lean into it. Those the Batman and

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<v Speaker 4>Robin relationship, when Robin especially isn't Damian Wayne, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>is not is not a cup like, he's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Assassin.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, the Dark Knight returns like Carrie Kelly exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was very lone Wolphone Cup like, and

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<v Speaker 2>and Frank was hugely influenced by these.

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<v Speaker 4>Right because he can't he kind of can't shake her.

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<v Speaker 4>He kind of she is you know, there is an

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<v Speaker 4>element of it. There's a reluctant dad element too that

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<v Speaker 4>I think is part and parcel of this. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>his child, he just has to take care of the women.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I love that. Also. I I went when

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<v Speaker 2>The Batman came out, I went to Warner Brothers and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it and Robert Pattinson was there and he

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<v Speaker 2>said something that I've never forgotten where somebody was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, would you do a robin and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>only if the only if robin is like eleven, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see it so badly because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>that is how weird it needs to be and that

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<v Speaker 2>is that lone wolphing cup thing like why do you

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<v Speaker 2>have a child with you? Just like we asked why

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<v Speaker 2>is didn't taking the baby everything?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would love that. I think that would be

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<v Speaker 3>rad and so upsetting in a.

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<v Speaker 4>Way that in a way that I feel like they're

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<v Speaker 4>interested in, Like I feel like that that Matt Reeves

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<v Speaker 4>Batman universe is interested in him, in him making mistakes

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<v Speaker 4>and him and him, you know, taking els and that

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<v Speaker 4>that would certainly be one.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jason, it's been so delightful to have you on

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<v Speaker 1>the program.

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<v Speaker 3>Thrilled to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, such a wonder please come back.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything to oh I will plug Well you were kind

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<v Speaker 4>enough to mention the how did this get made?

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast? That I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Horful podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Just so much fun?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thanks?

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<v Speaker 4>With Paul Sheer and June Diane Rayphael, where we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about terrible movies and subject ourselves to watching them. It's

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<v Speaker 4>really it's been going on for fourteen or thirteen years,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's deeply upsetting.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll also throw out a recommendation.

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<v Speaker 4>For something that I think you're, especially fans of the show,

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<v Speaker 4>will like, which is I'm one of the voices on

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<v Speaker 4>Star Trek Prodigy, Yes, which is a fantastic st Our

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<v Speaker 4>Trek animated show that is geared towards young people. It

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<v Speaker 4>is it's the first Star Trek story that takes place

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<v Speaker 4>primarily with young adults with with a it's a group,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a found family, it's a it's a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a group of kids who are basically trapped on a

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<v Speaker 4>slave planet where they're you know, they they managed to

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<v Speaker 4>steal a ship and escape and and and they go

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<v Speaker 4>on like truly just like adventures all all throughout Star

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<v Speaker 4>Trek Lore and Cannon and it's fantastic Janeway Supremacy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just a voyager Janeway show. I should not

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<v Speaker 2>say no to that.

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<v Speaker 4>It really is so fun and so beautiful, and it

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<v Speaker 4>feels very and I hope this is okay to say,

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<v Speaker 4>but it to me feels very similar to a Clone

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<v Speaker 4>Wars or a Rebels in the sense of it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it is young protagonists, and it is adventure based and

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<v Speaker 4>it's a blast, and I play, you know, as always

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<v Speaker 4>a sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Year old, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet again.

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<v Speaker 4>But please everybody watch Star Trek Prodigy. Show it to

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<v Speaker 4>your kids. It's incredible, hard Star Trek sci fi. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a blast. And you know, if you don't mind, it's

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<v Speaker 4>on Paramount Plus. Set it up to auto play the

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<v Speaker 4>whole series.

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<v Speaker 3>We really want it. I love that completion rate, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thank you so much, Jason, absolutely, thank you. Up

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<v Speaker 1>next nerd Out.

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<v Speaker 2>In today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you

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<v Speaker 2>love them, why, or a theory you're excited to share.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus pictures us on the Star Wars sequel trilogies in

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<v Speaker 2>the wake of Star Wars Celebration twenty twenty three, and

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<v Speaker 2>specifically on the Fantastic Daisy Ridley as Ray.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Jason and Rosie, First time, long time.

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<v Speaker 7>This week on the nerd Out, I'm pitching a small

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<v Speaker 7>series of independent films better known as the Star Wars

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<v Speaker 7>sequel trilogy.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever heard of it.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan who grew up with

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<v Speaker 7>the prequels and never ever expected we would get a

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<v Speaker 7>sequel trilogy, but I always dreamed of one, So to

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<v Speaker 7>get a trilogy starring an actress as talented as Daisy

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<v Speaker 7>Ridley was a dream fulfilled look. The trilogy is not perfect,

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<v Speaker 7>and its flaws are often over exaggerated because of the

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<v Speaker 7>perverse incentives of social media, but that's a nerd out

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<v Speaker 7>for another time. Ray is quite simply one of the

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<v Speaker 7>most compelling characters in all of Star Wars, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>a testament to Daisy Ridley's incredible performances. As amazing as

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<v Speaker 7>it was to see han Leah and Luke on screen

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<v Speaker 7>once more, it's Ray whose arc the trilogy is rightfully

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<v Speaker 7>centered upon, and she is more than up for shouldering

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<v Speaker 7>that responsibility. The raucous reaction in London when Lucasfilm announced

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<v Speaker 7>Ridley was returning to the role is only a small

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<v Speaker 7>testament to that fact. With the rise of Skywalker in

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<v Speaker 7>the rearview mirror and the new Jedi Order on the horizon,

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<v Speaker 7>it's really no better time to dive do into raise

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<v Speaker 7>arc with fresh eyes, unburdened by theories about her lineage

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<v Speaker 7>and poisonous online discourse. Look, I can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 7>her pass on what she has learned not only from

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<v Speaker 7>her predecessors, but her sequel trilogy peers to a new generation.

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<v Speaker 7>After all, the force is about much more than lifting rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Marcus. If you have theories of passions that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to share, hit us up at x ray at

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<v Speaker 2>crooked dot com. Instructions is always in the show notes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we also wanted to thank everyone for sending so

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<v Speaker 2>many brilliant Mandalorian fan theories in We love featuring a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch on the pod and reading them over email. Apologies

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<v Speaker 2>for not being able to include them all, but thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for sending them and keep them coming.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for us. A big thank you to Jason Manzucas,

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