1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Hey Aaull, It's Jason. If you think the conversations on 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: X ray Vision get real, you need to listen to 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: Louder Than a Riot. They're calling out or breaking down, 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the unwritten rules of rap that have held the entire 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: culture back. This is not me saying this. I'm not 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: weighing in here. This is the promo read. Whether it's 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: confronting sexism or queer phobia, these are the stories of 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: rule breakers who refuse to play nice. Rico Nasty, Trina, Saucy, Santana, 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Megan the Stallion, and more. I'm telling you this podcast 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: brings the heat. Listen Louder Than a Riot from NPR 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. This ad read was written 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: by NPR. Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for the season 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: three finale of The Mandalorian on Disney Pluce. Hello. My 14 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rodsday Night and welcome 15 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: to Next for Revision, the Crooked podcast, where we dive 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: In this episode in the Airlock, we're recapping the season 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: three finale of The Mandalorian and whoa finale it was 19 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: with our lovely friend Jason Manzukas. Yes, in the Hive 20 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: Mind more Manzucas for Comics Corner, where we talk about 21 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: all the books we have been reading, what we can't 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: wait for, and what you should be reading. And in 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: ned out It's a Star Wars pitch from listener Marcus up. 24 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: Next to the air lock, stepping out of the airlock 25 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: and into a galaxy far far away to discuss the 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Mandalorian season three finale alongside friend of the pod, Jason 27 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Manzuka's co host of How Did This Get made? Jason, 28 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining. 29 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: R to be here. Guys. This is the way, this is. 30 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: The way, this is this is the way it would. 31 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: Be done all the time. 32 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: This is the way. 33 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Let's talk about season three, Episode eight, Chapter twenty four, 34 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: the Return, directed by Rick fam we had written by 35 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: John Favreau. We pick up right after the events of 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: the previous episode. First off, on behalf of the x 37 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: RA Vision. I would like to apologize to ax Wolves, 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: who is not a spy and also whose jet pack 39 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: can absolutely get him into orbit up to the spacecraft which. 40 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 4: Crazy crazy who I mean, we just only a few 41 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 4: episodes ago saw the Mandalorians in the covert run out 42 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: of gas chasing a bird. 43 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: How did Haas Bisla manage to run out of gas? 44 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: But Axwoves can fly into space. 45 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: X Woves can basically has a hyperdrive on his back. 46 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. My guys like up 47 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 4: in the atmosphere and are the rest of the covert 48 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: couldn't even chase the bird when it captured Ragnar. 49 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: And it had many children at that point, like more 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: than its stolen more than one child child. So this Axe, 51 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: you could have been more useful. 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's I have two possible theories. One 53 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: is that Axe and his crew they kept it tight. 54 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: They were active mercenaries. They're working out in the world 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: doing stuff for cash, and they had to be ready 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: for game time in a way that Pause and the 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: rest of them rednecking around by Crocodile Lake were not like. 58 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: And then the second theory is that Pause is just 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: a deadbeat dad who never who was just irresponsible number one, 60 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: and you can see that by the fact that he 61 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: didn't have his jetpet gassed up. And then number two, 62 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: I kind of think that the reason that he was like, 63 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna hold off the dart Trood. 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: You guys get out of here. It's just he didn't 65 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: want to raise his kid. 66 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, I blink believe. I mean that is brutal. 67 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: You know what that is a brutal take on our 68 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: guye as Vizla. 69 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: He sacrificed himself the three for Toorian guys to save 70 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: the Mandalorians. 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: But you say not because he didn't want to pay Chiles, 72 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: not even a word for his son, not even to 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: tell my not even tell tell him, tell Ragno, I 74 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: love him and tell him what a hero he's getting. 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: Just like I'm out, I'll take him. You guys get 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: out of here. 77 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: It was that was there has been some wild wild 78 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 4: Did you guys also feel like I got so pregnant 79 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: with the idea that ax Wolves was a spy? 80 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: Or was it? 81 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: Yes? 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: Yes, we were invested, but. 83 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: I had a hard time believing he was saving the day, 84 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: which unqueslatably he was doing. He is hero on Mandalor. 85 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: And the entire time I was like this fucking guy. 86 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, I was like, oh, getting old the 87 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: Mandalorians to leave the ship. That's suspicions. 88 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: And the way the captain of the ship gives him 89 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: like a double tap, look like really like. 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: What it looks out. 91 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, here it comes, here comes with 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: xbos like shoots them all in the back. It just 93 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: never happened. Axe Wolves stand up died in the end. 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: My apologies, Oh yeah, we're gonna hand out a lot 95 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: of apologies today. 96 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: I think absolute apologies. 97 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: I will say. Unfortunately, unfortunately, we are going to hand 98 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: out a lot of apologies, because boy, would I like 99 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 4: what I have loved for one of these things to 100 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: have been proven true, for one of these people to 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: have been duplicitous. 102 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Yes. Back on the planet, bo is leading the survivors 103 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: out of moff Gidion's base. She radios to the very 104 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: very loyal axe Wolves before he's cut off by the 105 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: atmosphere to say, hey, okay, use the capital ship as 106 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: a decoy. Get all the warriors off the chips and 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: down to the surface, so I'll talk to you earlier. Uh. 108 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Then she has to use a thermal detonator to collapse 109 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: a tunnel because the dark Trooper armor is really really good. 110 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Back Uh, somewhere else in the base, Dinn breaks for 111 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: you from his captain. You gotta have more guys on Dinn. 112 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: Truly, this is an absolute strategical mistake. Do you have Mandalorian? 113 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: Oh'm a guess who knows how to use it? Bout 114 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: a Mandalorian every time. And also he has a full 115 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: sensitive baby whose medichlorians are so strong you are trying 116 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: to steal them. 117 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: And MAV what are you saving them for? You got 118 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: so many guys and you got baby guys. 119 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: I was also confused throughout both last week. 120 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: At the end of last week and this week. 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe MAF Gideon was not intrigued or interested 122 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: at all that Grogu was there, Like the dude spent 123 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 4: the first entire season chasing Grogu for his blood. They 124 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 4: bring Grogu to his cloning base. He doesn't even taste 125 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: full on playing hard to get. He's ignoring Grogu. 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: No, not even. 127 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 3: Like are you again? 128 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: Just like and now is it? It's a Guru in 129 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: a mech Yeah, so this is like not an easy 130 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: thing to just ignore. 131 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, how is there not a scene where where 132 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: Moff Gideon is like, is that Grogu in a. 133 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: You put that baby in a gun? 134 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: I would love it. I would love it if if 135 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: if Werner. Herzog came in and was like, I would 136 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: like to see the mech baby. 137 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: Let me see the man. 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: Let me see the mech baby. 139 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: So Dinn takes out these dark troopers, and then Grogu 140 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: arrives to kind of save the day when Dan is 141 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: about to get choked out and then shut my head 142 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: comes up, says no, no, no, crushes the pistol, and 143 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: then is he what is he spraying on his dad? 144 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Is that like fire extinguisher fluid? 145 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: I assume it was back yeah, the same way that 146 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: I g eleven did Sorry Rosie. 147 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 148 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: I was gonna say I think he did it because 149 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: that was heat and fire, but yeah, it's it's It 150 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: was definitely back to And it was funny because Den's like, 151 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: please stop. Oh. 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 3: But it was also sweet because Grogu's trying to risk 153 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: you his dad, and his dad's like, I'm okay, I'm okay. 154 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 4: I should at this point apologize for bringing you into 155 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: an active war zone. 156 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: My child is Ragnar here no. 157 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: But then THENDN says, Grogu, I'm gonna need you to 158 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: be brave for me, because if we don't take out 159 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: maf Gideon, this will never end. Are you with me? 160 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: And of course baby Grogu' is like, oh yeah, and 161 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: I just love that. Dinn is like, listen, we gotta 162 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: murder this guy. 163 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was like, are you with me? My child, 164 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: my small baby? 165 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: We gotta kill You're gonna kill him? Like yeah, I 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: love it. 167 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to You're gonna have to be brave 168 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: grogu because today we murder. 169 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen now. Din then Radio's Bow with the update. Uh, 170 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: he and the baby are gonna kill maf Gideon Bow 171 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: and the fighters escaped to the surface. They head to 172 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: one of the night Owl hideouts, and it is at 173 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: that moment that the Tie forces the TIE fighters and 174 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: the bombers screaming in the sky to attack the capital ship. 175 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: Jin radios Are five is like, I need you, buddy, 176 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: We need you to SCOMP. Did anybody did anybody track them? 177 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: I wrote it down, Scomp. I wrote it in my notes. 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: I was like, what the hell. 179 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: Verb, We're gonna need you to Scomp into the base 180 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: and get me the location of mom Getdeon's commands letter. 181 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: Is this scumping what we call when the droids do 182 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: that little jet pack. 183 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: Is specific interesting. 184 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 4: Interesting, that might be true. I took it to mean 185 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: like hack, I'm gonna need you to hack. Oh yeah, yeah, 186 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: pack into the system and blah blah blah whatever he said. 187 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: I can't remember what he said to do, but you know, 188 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: that's what I assumed it was. 189 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: But it's such a weird word. 190 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: It's so also like I feel like we still have 191 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: never tapped in, you know, decades later, to the absolute 192 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: amount of gadget the eye units have. 193 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,239 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. 194 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: They just always have what you need, whether it's a 195 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: tiny little hand to electrocute something, a hacking. It's it's 196 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: almost like being a green Latin. You have infinite will power. 197 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: And shuts the R five for having the appropriate amount 198 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: of gas in his jets. 199 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: Times he's not making that Missay look. 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Like daddy visla so our five. Using his little jets, 201 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: he floats down from the surface to the base and 202 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: begins looking for the nearest port data port that he 203 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: can use to scomp into the system. If that is 204 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: the axe gets through the gets through the clouds, he 205 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: makes it to the ships. He tells all the mandolarns, okay, 206 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: get out of here. Suspicions drop and suspicion I will 207 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: pilot the capital ship. And there's all these really cool 208 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: uh like scenes of the Mandolarns, like skidding onto the 209 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: ramp of a ship. 210 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 2: I just want to say as well, I feel like 211 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: they were looking at a lot of ease Iron Man comics, 212 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: because while these Mandalorians are flying, there is so much 213 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: time that it looks like. 214 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: I wondered if they used like Iron Man assets. 215 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: That's what I had the same thing. 216 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I bet you they did, right, they had to. 217 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: It's just so much easy and it's so clean. 218 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: This does not look rushed. This looks like you literally 219 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: are seeing tens of people flying through aranizable. 220 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't have a lot of flying from past seasons. 221 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: That's a brand new thing. So but they have a 222 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: ton of metal suited character flying through the air. 223 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm sure this is very. 224 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: Similar position to that kind of Superman. 225 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: I bet you it's Iron Man three assets and fight 226 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: where Tony is fighting like all the. 227 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: Suits multiple Man's. 228 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: We cracked it, guys, we cracked it. 229 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: We did. We figured it out. 230 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: That is true. Facts. 231 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Cannon absolutely happened. 232 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: So the Mandalorians are heading towards the planet and just 233 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: then the tai bombers tie fighters come up and they 234 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: start attacking the ship, where X Wolves is heroically piloting 235 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: the ship without any kind of ulterior motive. 236 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: They as he's gonna do it, he crashing. 237 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: He is absolutely loyal to the cause. And again, I'm 238 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: so sorry X quove there. 239 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: Honestly, X Wolves, thank you for your service. 240 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: Look, actually we apologize, but I would like to put 241 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: the blame for us suspect like suspecting you very directly 242 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: on whoever chose to name the last episode the Spies, 243 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: just saying I wait, so. 244 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: I guess let's talk about this. So what were the 245 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: Spies than R five n G sixty eight. 246 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: I wonder if the Spies are like the Imperial Remnant, 247 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: who are still you know, the zoom call, okay, the Imperials. 248 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 249 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: I think it's I mean, it doesn't. 250 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: It doesn't add up because only because I feel like 251 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: we all have spent so much time theorizing and trying 252 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 4: to figure it out and came up with we also 253 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 4: an apology to the night Owls very true, also as 254 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: oh well, don't they know exactly what trap to bring 255 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 4: everybody into it? 256 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: You know, everybody's like, yeah, she. 257 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: Literally command her whole life to rebuilding the Maglorians. And 258 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: we were like, guess who knows how to make best 259 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 2: that would be useful for gidiots? 260 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: Guess who's selling out our people. But I will say 261 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: once again and I listen, I love this show. This 262 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: is like one of my love this show. But I 263 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 4: would have liked for one of these things to be 264 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 4: true because I would have liked one more layer of 265 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: double crosses or all that just surprises. 266 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: That's what I was looking for. 267 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: And make it the night owls, I say, because acts, 268 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: I get it, like he's almost too suspicious, and that 269 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: also we just met these guys. 270 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 5: That's fine also as well, you would have had a 271 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 5: definite narrative satisfaction to show how Ax was really heroic 272 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: and then pull the rug from underneath you and go, oh, 273 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 5: act what it was that. 274 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: It would have been fun. But that's okay. Back at 275 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: the base, there's some really classic Star Wars stuff happening. 276 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: Now. 277 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: You got Din and Grogu sneaking around an imperial base. 278 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: It's just like the old days. You have an R 279 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: unit hacking in guiding them along the way. They come 280 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: to this the tunnel that we saw I'm off Gideon 281 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: Emerge from when he went to go take that zoom 282 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: call which is protected by a series of laser shields 283 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: which are five needs to open one at a time. 284 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: And it's the fight that unfurls here where you know, 285 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: Din has to be like, okay, now open the next 286 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: gate where he and then he's gonna fight two dark 287 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: troopers there, and then open the next one. He's gonna 288 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: fight two dark troops. Very reminiscent of the jin Obi 289 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Wan Mall duel from the Phantom menas at least the visual. 290 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: Well you in those shields, yeah, yeah, yeah. 291 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: And I feel like the Reds, I feel like this 292 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: again is feeling very lost Jedi. I feel like there 293 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: was a lot of lost Jedi echoes here with obviously 294 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: the Praetorian gods and everything, but the Reds and the 295 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: kind of like you got to fight a couple of 296 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: troopers in this very dynamic way. I was a fan 297 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: of this fight. It was a cool life. 298 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: I liked a lot of the fights. I liked this episode. 299 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: I thought had good a good variety of fights, you know, 300 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: big sky like dog fight stuff. Yeah, practical on the 301 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: ground hand to hand, the Bocatan fight with the Dark 302 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: Saber and the and whatever Maf Gideon's staff is called. 303 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but you know, I really liked the 304 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: variety of stuff that this episode. 305 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: And everybody got to whoop a little eggs, Like whenever 306 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: we went back to the armor in the sky, just 307 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Molly whopping dark troopers. I was like, Wow, that was 308 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: that's really cool. And I love that the. 309 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: Armor is never like you know what for this, Give me. 310 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: It's not happening, Give me the barbecue, the barbecue tools, 311 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: and I'm going to town. 312 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: It's also nice that they built up this idea of 313 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: these Mandalorian partially Mandalorian armored troopers and then actually showed 314 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: us them using their Malorian armor and Mandalorian weapons. That 315 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: could have been very easy to skip over, but we 316 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: really got that in Din with like the little lessus 317 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: that shot out and everything. That was very fun. 318 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and Maf Gideon had like the rockets that 319 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: shoot out of his classic the Whispering Angels or whatever 320 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: not Oh my god, please that's. 321 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: The rose, please make it. Those what were they called 322 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: whispering birds? 323 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Were the whispering birds, right, yeah, whispering. 324 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: Birds something like that man. 325 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: I wish it was called Whispering Angels, and they just 326 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: had a delightful little sip of rose that came. 327 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: Along with them. 328 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, R five has to escape a gang of mousteroids 329 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: who are loved that moment getting in his face because 330 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: sirens like the. 331 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: One came up and he shocked him and then he 332 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: came up and he was just like up and he 333 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: just flew up scumped. 334 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Away inside the command center. Didn't Grogu find all of 335 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: Gideon's clones. He's been cloning himself, apparently to give himself 336 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: versions of himself. 337 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: The force session. 338 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: Gives poor baby Grogu a mighty scare and. 339 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: This is like eye opening scare, something in a tank. 340 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Boom, and so Den is like, fuck these clones, they 341 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: all got to die, and he just. 342 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: Killed my son. 343 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: The night Owls then lead who again hearty apologies to them. 344 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 3: Sorry, can I interrupt you? 345 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry Jon the question only because I feel 346 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: like this beat where we see the mof Gideon's clone process, 347 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 4: all of the tanks are full of Moth Gideon clones, 348 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 4: and so I feel like this is a real change 349 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 4: from what I have thought we've been building towards all 350 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: this time, which is MAF Gideon wanted Grogu's blood so 351 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: that he could participate in the making of Snoke and 352 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: then openmately a forced sensitive Palpatine. Yeah, but this seems 353 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: to say, no, that is not the case. He was 354 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: using pershing to use Grogu's blood to make forced sensitive 355 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: moth gideons. 356 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: I think that's true. 357 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: I do not think it takes away from It's just 358 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: a little bit of a diversion. I believe that the 359 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: people who are Project Necromancer, who he has been hiding 360 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: this from, will inevitably find out he did this, and 361 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: the technology will be used. 362 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: But it just pushes it back a little. I think 363 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: it just pushes it back a little. 364 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 4: They're going to take all this and then use it 365 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 4: to make exactly I think that that. 366 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: Is if that feels right. And I also say on 367 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: that Zoom call they kind of get in MAF Gideon's 368 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: ass for like using pershing for stuff that is not 369 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: related to Snoke, and later on Palpatine it feels like 370 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: because it's like, you took pershing and you are doing 371 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: all this weird stuff. 372 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: And he's like, I don't even like cloning. That's your yeah. 373 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: Clone guy after. 374 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: He walked through a room of cloning, like he's like, 375 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: what cloning? 376 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: What you tell? 377 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: My favorite thing about this is, like, I get it. 378 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: It's almost too big to just immediately commit to kind 379 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: of wreckconning and expanding on the sequel trilogies as we 380 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: thought it was gonna most directly do. But it is 381 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: actually a very hilarious motivation when you really think about. 382 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: It's just some guy who was like, why I just 383 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: want some fource sensitive clone versions of myself to make 384 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: an army of me's And everyone's like, what would This 385 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do with Palpatine and he's like, 386 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: just some for sensitive muff. 387 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Idiot, I can I ask one more question? Obviously, Like 388 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: his plan was to create an army of clones. Uh, 389 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: aren't all the guys in the Dark Trooper him, like 390 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: all the or all the Dark Trooper dudes. 391 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 4: Monkitie, I don't I mean you mean non for sensitive 392 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 4: muffetting you know, I would say, and making clones. 393 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: But they're just regular. 394 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Clones, right, these are the beta clones? 395 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be interesting. My guess is they're just 396 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 4: Stormtroopers who are loyal to him. Although he does mention, Well, 397 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 4: what I was surprised by is that he said, this 398 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 4: is the new evolution of the dark Trooper. And the 399 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: dark Troopers were robots, right, they were so, but these 400 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: are definitely people in suits, for sure. 401 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: These are guys for sure. Uh, A lot, a lot 402 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: to think about. 403 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 6: And it's it is funny you bring it up, Jason, 404 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 6: because he's said he directly says, well, you're the one 405 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 6: obsessed with Clone hold. 406 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: On and now it emerges that you were just cloning yourself. 407 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: It's like a classic neg He's negging the shadow. 408 00:20:53,760 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: It's great X ray vision will be back, and we're back. 409 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: So the night Owls lead Bo and the warriors to 410 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: these garden caves that they've living in, beautiful teeming with 411 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: plant life, and again we're sorry to them. These guys 412 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: have been living in caves eating moss. 413 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: And we have been. 414 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 415 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this cave looks really small. Hot to 416 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: fight your way out of that when they have to 417 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: on you. 418 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: So the armor radio is in and she's like, okay, 419 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: guess what the cavalies here. We're here. Uh, let's do this. 420 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: And Bo's like, let's take back our planet. Love it. 421 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: They all scream for Moff Gidion's. Basically, we get this 422 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: delirious airborne battle that may or may not be taken 423 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: from assets from Iron Man three. And I have to 424 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: say this is I'm sitting here watching this, and it 425 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: looks great, looks amazing all like the armor swinging away 426 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: like bo with the dark saber out. We've never actually 427 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: seen anything like this in Star Wars to jet back 428 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: battling certainly nice on this scale, not at the scale. 429 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: This definitely makes me believe we were talking about the 430 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: likelihood of which Star Wars projects would go on to 431 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: become real that this sequence and the amount that they 432 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: committed to the armor and the Iron Man three assets 433 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: makes me think that the Lave allegedly the Dave Felony 434 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: wrap up of this live action kind of manned over 435 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: Suska verse. I. This really upped my expectation of actually 436 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: making it to the big screen. 437 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm on board for that. 438 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean imagine, imagine a big, huge dog fight, 439 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: space battle or sky battle between ships and Mandalorians in 440 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: the sky on the ship puts the being RN in there, 441 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: let's go, put the ghost in there, Let's go. 442 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: Come on, I'd love to see it. 443 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: So Dinn and Grogu find Gideon, and Guinean is whining 444 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: about his fucking clothes. 445 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: He doesn't care about by the way, my clothes, my clothes, 446 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: you swallowed them before they could take their first Shut up. 447 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: Now I have one geography question here, So didn't Grogu. 448 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: They get the location to the command center, they go 449 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: through the laser guarded hallway to get to it, and 450 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: then they find Gideon standing on what is basically we 451 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: later find out right because as the fight unfolds, Bo 452 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: looks down and sees them fighting. They end up like 453 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: on the spaceport, you know, on the side of the chasm. 454 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: It's open to the air. Why did we have to 455 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: Why did then just fly down? Because they is that? 456 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 4: Like, I fully agree the other thing that there's a 457 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: little bit of confusion there too, which is he's uh, 458 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: they get the information from our five. We gotta find 459 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: maff Gideon's office right right here. It is, we're gonna 460 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 4: we're on our way. They go through the gates. Everything 461 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 4: maf Gideon we've seen in his office, he looks at 462 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 4: a thing where Grogu and the Mandalorians who have who 463 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 4: have individual. 464 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: Dots on the thing. Yeah, beautiful. 465 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: I love that they have the ability to have a 466 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 4: green and a red dot on screen moving exactly when 467 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: they move, but there's no video surveillance in the entire base. 468 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's the one of the best funniest things. 469 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: Must Gideon leaves his He's like, don't worry, I'll deal 470 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: with them. 471 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: Hefe where's the office, guys, anyway, which part is the 472 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: actual office? So then we get this big fight between 473 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: mof Gideon and Dinn, and I have to I have 474 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: to hand it to MAF Gideon. Moff Gideon can ball man. 475 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: MAF Gideon gives Din everything he can handle. And then 476 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: it's like so confident that he just throws Din over 477 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: to the Praetorians and it's like, you take it. I'm 478 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: not even gonna get my sweat up because I can 479 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: so easily kick this guy's ass. 480 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, the suit definitely has hydraulics in it 481 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: or something, right, it's it's it's an extreme the version 482 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: of anything that we've seen before. 483 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: I felt like they purposefully put in like these servo engines. 484 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: The sounds of. 485 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: His suit is like, uh has more strength than justush. 486 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: It's not him powering. 487 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 4: The suit it's the suit has power of it, and 488 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: that's why he's so easily able to wipe the floor 489 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 4: with ding jar In and Bocatan. 490 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, and g of course cannot stand the sight of 491 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: his dad getting about to get executed by these prectorians, 492 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: which is when Grogu cries it is visceral and it 493 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: hits me so deeply. 494 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: Give that folios some serious money. 495 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: It's unbelievad. I just find myself being like, how do 496 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: they make this sound? 497 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: Why? 498 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: How do they make his. 499 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: Eyes place inside you a feral protective place. 500 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 4: Well, then it does trigger a response in me which is, oh, no, 501 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 4: why is he here? 502 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: Like we are going to cover that, and even more, 503 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: the end of this leaves me with more questions about 504 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: Din's parenting skills. But yeah, why is he that? 505 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: Because they have to take them off get in. 506 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, just leave the baby in the armor. 507 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: Is he can handle him? He's worth too much money, 508 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: he can handle himself. 509 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: Send them up to the ship with the trader ax 510 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 4: woves yes, in a. 511 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: Little baby, we'll look off to him. 512 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: So Grogu tries to intervene, but then the Paturnians are like, oh, 513 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: this guy is washed. Let's kill the baby first, because 514 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: we can come back to this, and they pursue Grogu, 515 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: who is recoiling and afraid, and it is so heart 516 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: wrenching to like the side room, and now Dinn seeing 517 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: this happen, is like, oh my God, like, no, this 518 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: can't happen. Gideon is shooting him in the bag, He's 519 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: lasting we around the neck. And as all of this 520 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: is happening, Din is powerless to watch the blast doors 521 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: close with the three Pretorians in there with this little babysit. 522 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: But Grogu again, maybe I don't I wouldn't do it 523 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: this way, but maybe Dinn knows what he's doing. Grog 524 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: can handle himself. He flips out of the ig mech, 525 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: which is getting cut to piece the love. 526 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: That they were like throughout this season we were like, wow, 527 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: we need to count of how many times this baby 528 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: flips because they all like it's establishing that the baby 529 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: can flip. And when I go to this episode where 530 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: he flipped himself onto like the lighting Rick, I was like, Oh, 531 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: that's why they kept reminding us he could flip. He 532 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: can flip. 533 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: Baby. 534 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: They got it's a that's another they've got its control option. 535 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 3: F Yeah, it just it just inserts a flip. 536 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Bo, who is fighting up in the you know, 537 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: all the Dark troopers up in the sky, looks down 538 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: sees maf Gideon down there fighting Din you know, and 539 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: is like, oh, there's a moff Guindion's office, and she 540 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: slides down to join the fray. Now it's Gideon with 541 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: versus Bow. And again you have to say it have 542 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: to hand it to Gideon. Nobody can take him. He 543 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: then wipes the floor with bow. 544 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 3: Uh. 545 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: And all I have to say is we need the 546 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: Mandalorians need to study what mof Gadon did with this. 547 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: Is what I'm saying. Out of all of the technology. Look, 548 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: we know that this technology is going to end up 549 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: in the Imperial hands and we're going to get somehow 550 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: Palpatine retuned. But what I want to know is why 551 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: didn't anyone take the technology off this suit? Because we 552 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: have never seen anything like this in Star Wars. 553 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: Maybe against their religion to like mess augment the strength. 554 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 3: With the but like the Imperial is it Finn wearing 555 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: one of these suits? 556 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you? 557 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: Thanks? 558 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: Why you know, like, why aren't why aren't the Stormtroopers 559 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: of the New Order? 560 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: Is that first, the first Why aren't the first it's 561 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: not the band New Order, That's why? 562 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: Why was it? Why was Captain FAsMA so easy to 563 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: take down? 564 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: You know, it seems like a prime example because this 565 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: suit is very FAsMA evocative. 566 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: So in the side room now, because Bo is taking 567 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: the side off the side office, because Bo is getting 568 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: her ass whooped by mof Gideon, Din and Grogu team 569 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: up to stomp out the Praetorians. Grogu's force abilities are 570 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: really really evolved now. Also, he's quite nimble. See you 571 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: come at the running running across the lighting fixtures there. 572 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to ask you guys a question. Yeah, 573 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: his force is evolved, but I'm guessing what do you 574 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: think he doesn't choke anyone out he used to be. 575 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: Now he's kind of moving people with the force. Do 576 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: you think that's because he studied with the Jedi, like. 577 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: He to use the They were like, yeah, that's dark, 578 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: that's dark material. Please don't get lightning and chokes. Please 579 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: don't do lightning or chokes because he. 580 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: Used to be a powerful force chroker. 581 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: Well, he was just I felt like in the past 582 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 4: he was operating from just instinct. 583 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: He was he was operating just he's from emotion. 584 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 4: Rather, he was just things were happening around him and 585 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 4: he was just reactive. But now he's spent. You know what, 586 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 4: did Favro say that that two years? He was with 587 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: Luke for two years or something like that. 588 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: He's harnessed. 589 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 4: So he's done something. Yeah, he's done more. And what 590 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: we get out of it is he can move stuff 591 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 4: with the force and flip and. 592 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: Cool running my little muppet running. 593 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, the little the little the little 594 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 4: kermit feet were really great. 595 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: It makes me so happy when I see a puppet 596 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: with like, I absolutely love it. 597 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: So they take out the Praetorians, uh and then. 598 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: Go love by the way, love seeing the Praetorians. 599 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: It was really very exciting and can absolutely handle them. 600 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: One of the. 601 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: Best contemporary Star Wars visualizations and creations. They're really scary 602 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: and their weapons are so cool. 603 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: They're really really cool and also a great evolution of 604 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 4: a of a something that in the in those in 605 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 4: the old movies. 606 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: Was just the cool. Those guys are red alwaysn't that neat? 607 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: What a great I have the figurine, What a great figure, 608 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: what a great what a great Kenner figurine or whatever 609 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 4: I had. 610 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: And then the booth it looks like a cool design, but. 611 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: What is it. 612 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then in and Last Jedi they come in 613 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 4: and are just so that scene is maybe visualization. 614 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: It's one of my time favorite Star Feet. 615 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such. 616 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: A great empory reintroduction. And to get to see them 617 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: here again and showcase that brutality and that fight is 618 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: just so good. 619 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: I wonder if the ornamental nature of the Praetorians in 620 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: the original trilogy isn't just because Palpatine was such a 621 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: bad as he didn't really need him. It's like, just 622 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: get me any guy. 623 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: He was so powerful with the force, like nobody even 624 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: knew that he was up to. 625 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: She's not a bodyguard, Like I don't who's getting into 626 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: this room anywhere. So then they go to they go 627 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: to help a bow maf Gideon fighting Bow has her 628 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: at his mercy, crushes the Dark Saver in his mighty 629 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: armored up hand, which is here's the thousands of years 630 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: old artifact. One of the most important objects in Star 631 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: Wars history. I think you could fairly say legendary and 632 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: one of. 633 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: The most powerful optifacts. 634 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: And it's they got to fix it. 635 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: Right. 636 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, was it fake? 637 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: Because it was. It had the heaviness to it, It 638 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: had that to be. 639 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: It was almost like he crushed the blade, which I 640 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: just can't sort of comprehend how he'd even be able 641 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: to do it. 642 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: I was surprised again because I felt like the story 643 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 4: had been telling me he wants this blade back back, right, 644 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: It meant it meant something to him that he had it. 645 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 4: It meant something to him that he wanted it back, 646 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: and that it seems so easy for him to just 647 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 4: crush it and be like the Dark Saber is broken. 648 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so true because if we think about it, 649 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: he kept talking in the last episode about how he 650 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: wanted to be the leader of it. 651 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: Give me the give me the Dark. 652 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: Mandlre. I've made these nightmare Man law iron Man suits, 653 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: so like, let's do it. Lets you have that was 654 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: and he just he just crushed it. 655 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: I know that was until his favorite clones got trash. 656 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: This is a temperatat Okay, Yes, he's smashing his toys. 657 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: The way he says, my clone so mad about. 658 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: It really is Jedi. 659 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: I feel like, throughout their history are constantly losing breaking 660 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: lightsabers all the time and then are having to go 661 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 4: and remake a new one, get another Kayber Crystal, you know, 662 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 4: build their lights and so that you get all these 663 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: different lightsabers that different people are carrying. But it seems 664 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: as though the legend of the Dark Saber. 665 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: Is this is the one. 666 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: That's yeah, yeah, this is the single one that's been 667 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 4: going for I don't know, thousands of years. 668 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: It's a vizsla, right, yes, it's it's yeah, okay. 669 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: But you you might be onto something actually, because a 670 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: lot of what we've talked about with this show is 671 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: how we feel like with Gogu and Din, it's this 672 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: idea of like the Jedi and the Mandalorian coming together 673 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: and these two schools of thought. Maybe because Bo's always 674 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: kind of been a rebel, maybe we will see how 675 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: go on a journey to rebuild the Dark Saber. I 676 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: think that. 677 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: It's I think so. I think so just because it's cool. 678 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: I think it's cool, and I think I think I 679 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: think they didn't do anything to in breaking it. They 680 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 4: didn't do anything to me that didn't feel like, oh, 681 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 4: it can be repaired and it still has meaning. 682 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: And then you know, you still have like the handle. 683 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 2: So you've got something to go on from the original. 684 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: So the dark savers gone Bo's helmetless musketting punches across 685 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: the room. Meanwhile, x Wolves is radioing in and he's like, guys, 686 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm about to nine to eleven the base. Okay, I'm 687 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: coming in. I'm coming it hot. There's flames coming with 688 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: this cattle ship. Amy gets straight to the base. So 689 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: now there's a clock ticking on this little fight here. 690 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: Also, can I ask you, is that the ship that 691 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: at least twenty five thousand people spent painting. 692 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: Of painting that by five gallons of paint. 693 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: Do not tell anyone who's who's three generations of that 694 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: family spent painting that. 695 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: I think it's took it took thirty years to paint that. 696 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 4: It also makes it impossible to use that ship covert. 697 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 2: Yes, you always know who's coming. 698 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 4: Oh Eve, an imperial ship, you can't sneak in anywhere. 699 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, it's the imperial Oh wait, no, it's 700 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: the man. 701 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: It's somebody had like. 702 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 2: Force sensitivity that was letting them know the future. And 703 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: they were like, oh, this ship's only gonna loast like 704 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: two weeks after we finish painting it, So let's just 705 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: go out. 706 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: Some off getting into after crushing the dark shads, Mandalorian's 707 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: weak once they lose the trinkets, and Bo says no, no, no, 708 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: Mandelins are stronger together, and here comes in and Grogu 709 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: to help out. But I mean, I gotta say it again, 710 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: even they all together are really struggling to handle Gideon, 711 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: who is like throwing them around, eating blaster shots to 712 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: the face. Grogu is like pushing him with the force. 713 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: He's still hanging on. It's very NATed to be. 714 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: A little bit more rough there with his That's my feeling. 715 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: It is only the devastating impact of the capital ship 716 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: follow by what could only what I only imagine is 717 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: a massive nuclear explosion that finally takes down maf Gideon. 718 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: But you wonder what about our heroes, what happened to them? Well, 719 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: and in it what can only be described as a 720 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: impressive he was saving it for that force display. Grogu 721 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 1: has kept them safe inside this force bubble as the 722 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: nuclear fires swirl all around them. The good guys. When 723 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: Jason you were saying. 724 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: Oh no, I was just saying it. 725 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 4: I feel like they are powering and depowering Grogu throughout 726 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 4: the series Harry Match, you know, in the sense that 727 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 4: like in season one, he can literally freeze a mudhorn 728 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 4: in mid air that is fully charging forward, and here 729 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 4: he can't seem to knock mof Gideon off the off 730 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 4: a ledge, you know what I mean. And that's that's 731 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 4: a bit of it. There's a bit of a confusion 732 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 4: for me there as to how strong is he and 733 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 4: when does he decide to exhibit it? And obviously this 734 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 4: you're right, it takes a profound amount of force to 735 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 4: hold them safe in a bubble while the fire rages 736 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 4: around them. 737 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 3: But you know that, I was also like, this is 738 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 3: a wild this is wild. What's happened? 739 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: Let me give it? Let me profer a theory here. 740 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: We of course, we just mentioned how instinctively Grogu is 741 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: force choking folks and his pushes certainly are quite powerful, 742 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: but certainly not powerful enough to move Mafkidion. What if 743 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: what if Luke's whole thing was like, okay, you know, 744 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: light side of the force. It's defensive mainly, Yes, so 745 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: when he's strongest, when he is defending the people, because 746 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: that's what. 747 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 2: He's been trained as. I just want to say this 748 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: sums up a problem for me. Look, I have just 749 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: want to say, I have a rebellion tie. I love Jedi, 750 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: I grew up in stars, but I have issues with 751 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 2: the Jedi culture right, like and the way that they 752 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: like train children for war, etc. But like, this to 753 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: me is a problem. You spend two years with one 754 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: of the most famous Jedi in the world and he 755 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: basic dempowers you because like of the right way to 756 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 2: use the force. This is why I know it's not 757 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,479 Speaker 2: Cannon but gray Jedi. That space where you can play 758 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: with both sides. I think it's so powerful. I think 759 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: that you are probably right, and that Luke taught Grogu 760 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: to harness it for defensiveness. But I feel like protecting 761 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: his dad. He still has that love for him and 762 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 2: that power. I feel like I was expecting to see 763 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: him do more, but I love to. 764 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: See him do a little Susie. 765 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 2: It was. 766 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: It was very very cool. Uh, you know, Canaan Jarris 767 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: could never And also all right, I don't I don't 768 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: know why I said that. I'm so sorry, edicated, Actually 769 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: you don't like to apologize. You're like it felt bad 770 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: as it came out of my mind. 771 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: Dare you malign I know. 772 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, but I will say one thing like that 773 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 1: the bubble, Like he brings it down after thirty seconds, 774 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: there's no way that you could bring it down after 775 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: it would you'd probably be there for like thirty minutes. 776 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: Way more way more oxygen in the air would be 777 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 2: burning them off the radioactive debris. 778 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: Like everything I. 779 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 2: Did, I did love one of my favorite moments, like 780 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: visually it's such a good, funny little gag is like 781 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: Bo trying to protect them with her tiny shields and 782 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 2: she's like, I like, good for you, Bo, But it 783 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 2: was never gonna happen. No, definitely not safe unless grogus 784 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: like force filtering the air. 785 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: I mean it was definitely like he was like a 786 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: light cruiser into from them. 787 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: Yes, they can see see. 788 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 4: That's the thing is if they were in maff Gideon's office, 789 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 4: like tuck. 790 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 3: Tucked into the mountain. 791 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 4: Somewhere, I'd be like, okay, the blast, they could shield 792 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 4: themselves from the blast. 793 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: But they are watching the light cruiser descend in front 794 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 3: of them. 795 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: Makes it's yeah, it makes no sense that they are 796 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 4: left not just alive, but fully unscathed. 797 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: Uh. Later on, the armorer blesses in a new geneneration 798 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: over at the Living Waters that includes our friend Grogu. 799 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: Was that Ragnar who she was blessing? He is, right, yeah, 800 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: it was sorry about your dad. 801 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 3: Never never, Yeah, it's it's Ragnar. 802 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 4: But I know both because of his helmet and also 803 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 4: because I watch everything with closed caption affections. 804 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 3: And when he spoke. When he spoke, he. 805 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: Was credited because I was like, oh, I see. So 806 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 2: they're like, well, your dad's dead, so now you're going 807 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 2: to get adopted into the mandlorin this is the way 808 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: you Also, sorry, I just need this is actually from 809 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: last episode, but I do need to say this because 810 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: it relates to them adopting babies. What happened to the 811 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 2: bird dragons because them they did eat them amazing discord 812 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: Uses found a screen grab of them roasting the baby 813 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: bird dragon things that both saved when she was like, 814 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 2: I've got foundlings, So I guess if you're tasty and 815 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: you're not a humanoid. 816 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: That night, that night that all the tribes got together 817 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, we got we'll make you dinner. 818 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: It was they eat the baby. 819 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: It's got it's it's either got to be that. That 820 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 3: would be incredible that would be so incredible. 821 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 4: You know what it would be incredible is if next season, 822 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 4: because we all were like, you know what, guess what 823 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 4: these Mandalorians are going to be riding helmets. Yeah, these 824 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 4: these are going to be their mounts for when they 825 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 4: retake Mandolin and blah blah blah, And wouldn't it be 826 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 4: funny if they. 827 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 3: Did do that next season? But there was only two 828 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 3: they just ate the one. 829 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 2: I guess Ragna should be feeling lucky that they didn't 830 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 2: just eat. And when when. 831 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: Past died, so didn't Din steps up? And it's like, okay, 832 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: my my founding Grogu, I think you know we he 833 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: beat Moff, Gideon, saved Bow and my life. Yeah, let's 834 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: let's make him a true apprentice now and baptize him 835 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: in and then, in what can only be described as 836 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: an ablest policy, the Armor is like, well, he can't speak, 837 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 1: so talk about it. Although I will say it from 838 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: a positive point of view, it is also clear to 839 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: me from the Armorer's voice performance, an excellent voice performance, 840 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: that what the Armorer was trying to do was to 841 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 1: get Dinn to formally adopt Grogan. 842 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 2: And it is also I think like a matter of consent. 843 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 2: She doesn't want someone to just be bought into the 844 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: Mandalori infection. Who can't agree that he wants to be that. 845 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: Though it's very clear that Grogu, I mean, his the 846 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: way his face falls when it's like, sorry, you can't speak, 847 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: he's just like I was like, come on, I was. 848 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 2: I was like, is he gonna like do the creed 849 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 2: and yo to speak? Like, is he gonna do it? 850 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,959 Speaker 2: But are we going to see the baby talk? 851 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,479 Speaker 1: I could. 852 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: I didn't see where he was. 853 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 3: Going, Rosie. 854 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 4: I thought that I had At one point, they at 855 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 4: one point close up on him right when he right 856 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 4: when it's right when normally he would talk because they're 857 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 4: saying he can't talk, he can't talk, he can't talk, 858 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 4: And then they close up on him, and I was like, 859 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 4: is he about to talk? 860 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 3: If he talks, I'm gonna fucking flip. 861 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: If he says can the way this is he says that. 862 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I don't. I'm curious what you what 863 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 4: you both think? I do not want Grogu to talk, period. 864 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: I think that right now, no, And I think obviously 865 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, like Yoda was nine hundred, so we got 866 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: potentially fifty years before. 867 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, and and Grogu is what 868 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 4: now what they say he was fifty when they got him. 869 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 4: From now he's fifty two, fifty three years old. Okay, 870 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 4: so you think in the last three years he's advanced 871 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 4: exactly much for a being that live to nine hundred. 872 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,959 Speaker 2: He's the baby. We love the baby also as well. 873 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 2: That can be something they can work up to. When 874 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: he inevitably shows up in the Ray movie as one 875 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: of her Judi students, like, somewhere down the line, we 876 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 2: may be. 877 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: I have no problem, you know, I keep it, keep it. 878 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 1: The baby sou Grogu is re christened Din Grogu, a Mandolin, 879 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: an official Mandalin apprentice. Now Din and Jr. As part 880 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: of the apprenticeship, have to travel the space ways together 881 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 1: as as Dinjarren shows his newly adopted son Ding Junior 882 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: the ways of the Mandolorin so that it can become 883 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: a full fledged Mandalorian. And as this is happening, the Misosaur, 884 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: which is slumbering below the waters, opens its eyes. There's 885 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: this wonderfully emotional moment where Bo relights the Great Forge 886 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: and the Mandalorins are back. Great big cheer led by 887 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: axe Wolves, sorry ever. 888 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 2: Down Okay, So when the baby just before the mythso 889 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: wakes up, the baby looks into the water and almost 890 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 2: like touches it with the force, like he knows the 891 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 2: mythisaurs down there. 892 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 3: He can he can sense the mythosaur down there. 893 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 4: And I think that's why the Mithisaur opens its eyes 894 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 4: as if it is right, I don't hearing sens or something. Yes, 895 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 4: so should we presume although I guess Grogu has had 896 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 4: has had contact with other animals some sort of like 897 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 4: so that maybe he has a the force allows him 898 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 4: to connect with this mythosaur. And I did really think 899 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 4: he would get more mythosaur. 900 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: I thought that the Mandalorians being back on Mandalor, I 901 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 2: thought we would see bo on the mythosaur with the 902 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 2: dark saber fighting Gideon. 903 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 4: I feel like the same, and I feel like all 904 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 4: of the you know, all of the chatter around the 905 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 4: watching of the show successfully wrote a shadow version of 906 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 4: the season that I'm very intrigued by, where the Armorer 907 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 4: or ex Wolves are duplicitous double agents, where the Mythhisaur 908 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 4: comes out and Bocatan gets to ride it, like all 909 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 4: this stuff that I'm like, yeah, yeah. 910 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, time to team up for our fan fit. 911 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: I will say that it's the you know, a lot 912 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: probably happens off screen obviously, but it does also seem 913 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: as if either A bo is not really shared the 914 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: Mithisaur news or b the Mandalorids are just bewhelmed about 915 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: the Mythosaur's back, like we talk about this. 916 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, my gut says I. I believe the shadow version 917 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 2: of this was at least probably kicked about at least 918 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 2: a bit about the mythisour being in the final episode. 919 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 2: Now we know that there's going to be a movie. 920 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 2: I think you saved that for the movie. Who's gonna 921 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 2: ride the Mythosaur? Is it going to be both? I 922 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 2: think Grogu is rising up the mythosaur riding ranks now 923 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 2: that he's connection. 924 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 4: And you also have to figure the Mythosore has it 925 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 4: done right? That's a very expensive VFX. 926 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 2: Oh exactly, And it's like something that canon wise, and 927 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 2: the amount of time that we've heard about it but 928 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 2: never seen it to really have the reveal is huge. 929 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,919 Speaker 2: And even though a finale of a big TV show 930 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 2: like this would be a great place, I can understand 931 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 2: why they'd want people to see that on Imax in 932 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 2: the most. 933 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,720 Speaker 4: Expensive Honestly, probably why we didn't see those birds again 934 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 4: is because they are completely digital and if they're not 935 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 4: doing something integral to what's going on, then why are 936 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 4: we going to waste? 937 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 3: Why burn the money on them? 938 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 939 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: Now you could potentially take some of the Scott Lang 940 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: Giant Man assets from you know, no from or from 941 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: the From Endgame. Okay, so I was going to say, 942 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: and reskin it from Missaur. 943 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would be really easy. That's no 944 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: harm sentence. Okay, So what about this then? If we're 945 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 2: talking about reusing assets, will the asset of Grogu saving 946 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: them in mof Gideon's office, is that going to be 947 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 2: used when we first see Sue Storm it will just 948 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 2: be the same bubble that's like the trade back. 949 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 3: That'd be great, Yeah, let's do it. 950 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 2: Definitely, they're definitely testing out how to do the Fantastic 951 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 2: Four powers. 952 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: In these In these movies and shows, I will say 953 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: I did sense small moments where you you could kind 954 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,959 Speaker 1: of put your finger on the moment where it's like, okay, 955 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: here's where they tried to save money, you know, like 956 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: when Bo is leading the charge. She ignites the dark 957 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: sab has it out. They only showed like her hand 958 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: and about an inch of the handle, like, which is 959 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: a weird shot. 960 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 2: Right to not show the sword like an Authorian style moment. 961 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,720 Speaker 1: They say his five grand and don't show the whole sword. 962 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 2: Get to go home on time today, just just to 963 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 2: be a little about the sword. 964 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,479 Speaker 1: So then didn't Grogu go and visit our good friend 965 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: Captain Teva. I love to see him, love to see 966 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: him at the tropical. I'm like you already stay down. 967 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 4: All I wanted, I like screamed, please let Zeb meet Grogu. 968 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: All I want. 969 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 3: All I wanted was for Ze to meet Grogu in 970 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,959 Speaker 3: the bar. Please just give him. 971 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 2: A little like nod while the baby's like eating his 972 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 2: snacks or something. 973 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: So the New Republic is, of course stoked that the 974 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: Mandos took out Gideon and for free, like they cost 975 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: them zero credits for this. Uh, and then Mando pitches 976 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: Captain on a team. 977 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 2: I don't even get me thought. 978 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 1: He basically says, listen, Grogu and I will hunt imperials 979 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: right off the books. Okay, uh, this is not a 980 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: New Republic operations, just you and me talking. You slide 981 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: us some credits under the table. We'll take you. 982 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 3: We'll do the wet work. Me and my child will baby. 983 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 2: I just want to say, He pitches it as he 984 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 2: says to him, I've got a baby. Now, I've got 985 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 2: some I've got something. He's like, I can't be doing 986 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 2: that dangerous stuff. I'm just gonna become an assassin from 987 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 2: remnants and bring my child. That is more dangerous than 988 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 2: being a bounty Hannah. 989 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: Now, I I wonder if what he was saying was 990 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 1: I can't be doing this immoral bounty hunting and where 991 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 1: it's just like I'm bringing everybody in. I'm bringing everybody in, droys. Yeah, 992 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: I have different kind of aliens that. 993 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: He wants to just and of the legitimacy of people. 994 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: That just like didn't pay their parking tickets, Like, now, 995 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: what if I just go after peace people who were 996 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: probably bad? I mean we're talking about imperial Yes. 997 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 4: No, I think that's when because doesn't he say something 998 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 4: like I wanted to, I can't go back to being 999 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 4: just a bounty hunter. 1000 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 3: It needs it needs to matter or something like that. 1001 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so uh and he says, listen, you 1002 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: can you can in terms of payment, which you are 1003 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: going to pay us because we're going to work for this, 1004 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: but you can give us an advance. And that advance 1005 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 1: is that ig head that my son just spotted above 1006 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 1: your mar which is by the way, quite horrific to 1007 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: just have a droid anyway. Uh. And then closing a 1008 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: loop on the memoryship plotline. 1009 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 2: When we say it was over, let's give an apology 1010 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 2: to didn't because we really thought he was distracted. 1011 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 1: We thought that they just had forgotten about the memoryship. 1012 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: But it's back back on Navarro. Grief, our good friend, 1013 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: High Magistrate Grief Karga gives Mando the keys and the 1014 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: deed to his beautiful news a piece of land. And 1015 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: by the way, with all the Mandalorians back on Man, 1016 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 1: he now has like this huge That's what. 1017 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 4: I was wondering, did he get the whole land that 1018 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 4: Greek because that was such a weird moment in the 1019 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 4: in the season where they they they rescue or they 1020 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 4: save Navarro. The Mandalorians intercede in Navarro with the pirates. 1021 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 4: They are awarded this enormous piece of land and they 1022 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 4: immediately depart. 1023 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 3: They're given they're given up. 1024 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 4: They're given a home area to make their to make 1025 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 4: themselves at home, and they immediately go to retake mandl 1026 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 4: Or totally fine. But when they came back, did is 1027 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 4: that where Dnjarren is? 1028 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,919 Speaker 3: Or did? Did he did? 1029 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 4: It was with Grief Cark like, I'm so sorry man, 1030 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 4: after you guys left, I gave that away. 1031 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 3: So I've just I've just got. 1032 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: This little cabin right. That was a deal for the 1033 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: existing Mandlarn people, like, I'm sure you understand, like I 1034 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: have to just like a thousand square feet I had 1035 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: to take some of that back. But no, I think 1036 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: that is all. I think that was all of their land. 1037 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 2: I think it was. It does look like very barren 1038 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 2: and not a bad way. 1039 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 4: But like that, it's very much like the end of 1040 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 4: a Western you know, like it's like very much like out. 1041 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 3: On the planes. 1042 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 4: He kicks up his feed he's got there's even like 1043 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 4: there's even like, uh, you know posts in front of 1044 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,760 Speaker 4: the house too that you would attach your horse. 1045 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 2: And they do the little favor. 1046 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: So then Manda says, well, Grief, guess what I have 1047 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: a gift for you. Check this out, And next thing 1048 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,240 Speaker 1: we know, we see a refurbished I G eleven. 1049 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 4: First we see gens. First, we see the works. 1050 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: Who worked very hard on this right, and here we 1051 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 1: see refurbished I G. Eleven walking up saying good evening citizens. 1052 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 1: I am I G eleven your new marshall. I am 1053 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: here to serve and protect the Citrus citizenry. And the 1054 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: crowd goes, wow, grief, Cargon is chirt, And I just 1055 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: have to say, what's We've talked a lot about the 1056 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,720 Speaker 1: kind of questionable politics around droids here in this world. 1057 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: This is very funny to me that everybody is like, 1058 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: we've the bottomize and other folks, he will only follow order. 1059 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: Is this droid no longer has any free will? And 1060 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 1: everybody's like yes, yes. 1061 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 2: It's especially fucked up because like Dynn literally was like, 1062 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 2: that's my friend. That's the only droid I trust. I 1063 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 2: need his memory chip back because I trust him. And 1064 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 2: then he was like, I don't need imaturally, you guys 1065 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 2: have him. He can just be all like please seven. 1066 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: And he very specifically says, and I forget what the 1067 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: exact wording is, but I G. Eleven basically says, listen, 1068 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: I will just follow orders. 1069 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 4: Now. 1070 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: I Am not gonna go and do weird things and 1071 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: bounty hunt on the side. I am just strictly the 1072 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: Marshall and it's great to see you. Big cheers from 1073 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: everybody and listen. I guess we until more information emerges 1074 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,760 Speaker 1: and we know exactly what was doing with Ig eleven, 1075 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: we can't really say. But it did feel a little weird, 1076 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 1: you know what, from the dead. 1077 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 4: That's what I couldn't figure out, was though, like I 1078 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 4: didn't need Ig eleven to come back, like I wasn't. 1079 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 3: Frankly, to me, I that moment where Ig eleven. 1080 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 4: Sacrifices himself so that they can escape the lava flow, 1081 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, I loved and was such an 1082 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 4: incredibly moving So the idea that, oh, now we have 1083 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 4: to bring him back, but not bring him back as 1084 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 4: the character we loved, but bring him back as a 1085 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,760 Speaker 4: mind wiped like automaton. I was like, yeah, I don't 1086 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,879 Speaker 4: quite get I feel like this because also because it's 1087 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 4: the last beat, I feel like we're supposed to be like, yeah, 1088 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 4: my guy, you know, And I was like, yeah, why 1089 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 4: exactly it is? 1090 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 2: It is especially weird because didn't even says to Teva, 1091 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 2: he says, you know, oh, that reminds him of someone 1092 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 2: he used to know, so he even has that emotional thing, 1093 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 2: but then they just turn him into like it's like, also, 1094 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 2: wouldn't you need a certain amount of sentience to be 1095 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 2: a marshal that is not like a I. 1096 00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: Mean, listen, we just watched two episodes of grog riding 1097 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,760 Speaker 1: around in the carcass of Dinn's professed friends. 1098 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 2: We're doing comedy beats with the soup board. Yes yes, yes, yes, 1099 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 2: no no. 1100 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 4: How great would it have been if, like I g 1101 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 4: eleven is there like I'm your new marshall, welcome, thank 1102 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 4: you people or whatever, and Groglu's just cling at his 1103 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 4: chest trying to get in. 1104 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he just pops out of the chest and 1105 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 2: he's like yes, yes, yes, and it's Gregor. 1106 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 1: I hope they do get him a new little mech 1107 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 1: because he really seemed to enjoy it, and he took 1108 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: to it that Matt he was very good at piling 1109 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: in it. And then we get to the end where, 1110 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: you know, obviously a very a wonderful Western beat. There's 1111 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: so much classic Star Wars stuff here with you know, 1112 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: all the kind of thematic beats, and then here leaning 1113 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 1: into the Western themes that have always been there. President 1114 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: of Star Wars, we see the home on the range. 1115 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 1: Jason mentioned the post where you would tie up your horse, 1116 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: tie up your blur. 1117 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 2: Greg who's playing with a little frog in the cree 1118 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 2: eating definitely. 1119 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,320 Speaker 1: And then Dan, you know, kicking up his feet, taking 1120 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: a much needed rest and relaxation. And it felt like 1121 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 1: a very hard and definitive end felt this chapter of 1122 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: the Mandalorian Who knows what comes after? Well, I think, 1123 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: what do you think? 1124 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know. 1125 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 4: I think that you know this season and you know, frankly, 1126 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 4: and I love again, I love this show. I've loved 1127 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 4: spending all of this time both watching these episodes, waiting 1128 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 4: until midnight every Tuesday night and just rushing these episodes 1129 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 4: and being really engaged and delighted by so much of 1130 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 4: what they've done, confused and confounded at some of the 1131 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,919 Speaker 4: other things that were done. 1132 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 3: But I definitely think that's. 1133 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 4: A lot of the kind of unevenness or or any 1134 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 4: of the kind of stuff that people have been confused 1135 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 4: by or or or weren't quite tracking were part and 1136 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 4: parcel of a much different version of the show this season. 1137 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 3: This season was definitively a heavily. 1138 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 4: Serialized narrative, whilst one thrust of a story with lots 1139 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 4: of characters, and I feel like at the end, when 1140 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 4: when the armor is like now you have to the 1141 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 4: armorer basically says now next season you can go on 1142 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 4: your adventures exactly. 1143 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 2: And that's what they have a Villain of the Week. 1144 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 3: And I don't think so. 1145 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 4: I think the setup is now they're gonna now they're 1146 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 4: looking out. They don't We're not gonna be like with 1147 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 4: them on mandal or we're not gonna be inside of 1148 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 4: that story anymore. I think that chapter is done and 1149 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 4: the next chapter will open up, probably as it relates 1150 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 4: to them. My guests is Dinn and Grogul will be 1151 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 4: enlisted in the Ahsoka. 1152 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 3: Live Action Rebels Crew throng narrative. 1153 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 4: Right, They're gonna somehow be sucked into that story that 1154 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 4: is the result of whatever happens in ah Soca. 1155 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 2: That's my hope, at least I think that's true. So 1156 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 2: do you think, and this is for both of you, like, 1157 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 2: do you do you think we'll ever get another season 1158 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 2: called the Mandalorian, because that's not That's what I'm not 1159 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 2: sure of. I think we'll get Ahsoka. I think this 1160 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 2: will tie into it, But you know, Is it going 1161 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 2: to be like Din and the Baby? Is it going 1162 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 2: to be like Grogu? Is it? 1163 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 4: I think just for marketing, I think just on a 1164 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 4: craven business level, the Mandalorian is too big a property 1165 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 4: like Comparatively, the Mandalorian is enormous and their flagship and 1166 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 4: is huge for them versus a show that I know 1167 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 4: we all just were obsessed with and or my understanding 1168 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 4: is underperformed for them. So yeah, I think they will 1169 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 4: keep putting, they'll make a Mandalorian show. But I wouldn't 1170 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 4: be surprised if there's a season like this season at 1171 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 4: some point where a Mandalorian season is where Din and 1172 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 4: Grogu are side characters again. 1173 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you see them rebuilding of Mandalori. 1174 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, or you see them inside of the Rebels crew 1175 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 4: doing something that they're you know, they've signed on to 1176 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 4: do with them. You know, they they could be, they 1177 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 4: could both be, which I like, And this makes it 1178 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 4: a very creatively interesting show, which is you can tell 1179 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 4: individual stories. You can tell the case of the week, 1180 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 4: Monster of the Week stories for a while, but then 1181 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 4: you can also make ensemble based shows in which Din 1182 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 4: and Grogu are just part of a larger ensemble and 1183 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 4: that I love. 1184 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah do. 1185 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: We later find out that Din and Grogu were round 1186 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 1: for the big battles in the most recent Star Wars trilogy. 1187 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: How do they how do they in your mind theorizing now, 1188 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: how do they explain away the lack of attendance in 1189 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: the big, big fight scenes from Grogu and Din. 1190 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 2: I wonder if they build in some kind of story. 1191 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: Because I ask because I I was a little bit 1192 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: worried they were gonna killed in at the end of 1193 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: the d the fight was non zero worried, like I. 1194 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 2: Had the feel just also as well, like Pedro's busy. 1195 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Comments about the comments from the showrunners about this is 1196 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: actually an exact about help well, this is the Mandalorian 1197 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: refers to them, is not just it. So I was 1198 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: kind of worried. 1199 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 4: It's also notable in no live action, he's not the 1200 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 4: helmet doesn't come off at all exactly. And that's that's 1201 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 4: a first this season is the first time we right 1202 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 4: because at the end of both. 1203 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 2: So I think there was a lot of people even 1204 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 2: wondering what that meant on a business level of being 1205 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 2: a leading person who doesn't have your face shown at 1206 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 2: any point in any episode of a season, so it's 1207 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 2: definitely interesting stuff. I think that they will probably do 1208 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 2: a story beat that says, Grogu is the future of 1209 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 2: the Force. Grogu is the most powerful, a mega level mutant, 1210 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 2: and we have to hide him from Palpatine from everyone else, 1211 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 2: and then him and Dinn will be hidden somewhere off 1212 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 2: on a moon or something, and that's why they weren't there. 1213 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 2: But also you could imagine him being kind of retroactively. 1214 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,919 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, he was behind a tree, like doing 1215 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 2: some forced stuff now. 1216 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 4: You also, it also opens up the question to where 1217 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 4: why isn't Ezra part of Yes, part of raised Big 1218 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 4: Big Why is part of Ray's story? 1219 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 3: He would truly be like a senior Force user. 1220 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 7: You know. 1221 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 4: My hope is that there are very cool, very creative 1222 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,919 Speaker 4: ways to tell those stories. Wouldn't it be what if 1223 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 4: the reason that they're not is because Ezra and Grogu 1224 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 4: are What if Grogul becomes like Ezra's padawan and they go. 1225 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 1: On it exactly exactly? 1226 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 2: You know, No, I love that idea. And now that 1227 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 2: we're in this outer rim space and this wider ideas 1228 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 2: of the galaxy, there are multiple different conflicts happening. It's 1229 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 2: not just what we know from the main timeline and 1230 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 2: the main the main trilogy. So I think there's definitely 1231 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 2: a space. And we've been saying it's one of the 1232 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,919 Speaker 2: best things. We all love the animed stuff. They're start 1233 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 2: to do with these live action shows what they've always 1234 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 2: done with animation, which is expand on and add context 1235 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 2: to these moments that make you say, oh, why did 1236 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 2: that happen? Or why wasn't so and so there. So 1237 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 2: I think in Asoka especially and probably further seasons of 1238 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 2: the Mandlaurian, we will get those answers. Where was Ezra, 1239 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 2: where was Grogu? How do these things tie in? And 1240 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 2: why weren't they a part of these stories that came after? 1241 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 7: Wow? 1242 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 3: Huge? Huge? 1243 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: Any final thoughts? 1244 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 4: My final thoughts are I really enjoyed it? I thought, 1245 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 4: you know, again, this is one of my favorite shows. 1246 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 4: I would I would cut off my arm to be 1247 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 4: on this show. 1248 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 3: I would. I want to. 1249 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 4: I would love to be. Star Wars is my stories, 1250 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 4: you know, like this is. I'm fifty. I grew up 1251 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 4: on these movies from the time they were coming out 1252 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 4: in theaters, the original trilogy. These are my movies. These 1253 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 4: are my stories. This is what I'm This is a 1254 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 4: world that I love being inside of. 1255 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: It feels like it's it'll happen. 1256 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I was gonna say it's inevitable. 1257 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of improv world people that have 1258 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: already played on the show is quite notable. It is 1259 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh no crazy Kevin Dorr character. 1260 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 2: If they came to you and said who do you 1261 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 2: want to play and you get to pick. 1262 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 3: Oh wow, you know what. 1263 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 7: You know? 1264 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 4: What I would love to play is there are characters 1265 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 4: that I would love to play, But I would love 1266 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 4: to play someone in like the Acolyte or someone Yes, 1267 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 4: I would love to play someone in the High Republic era, 1268 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 4: or someone in this James Mangold movie if that ever 1269 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 4: gets made. I'd love to play a character who's an 1270 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 4: unknown that I that is, you know, that is able 1271 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 4: to be defined by the performance, rather than wouldn't it 1272 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 4: be cool to be Quinlan Voss? Wouldn't it be cool 1273 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 4: to do Dark Disciples and be Quinlan Voss? You know, no, 1274 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 4: it would be, but you know, like, I don't think 1275 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 4: that's ever gonna originate. 1276 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 2: A character in that world. 1277 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 3: These are my stories. This is what I love. 1278 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 4: So any time that I can spend and with characters 1279 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 4: in this world, and then also consuming all the podcasts 1280 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 4: and all this stuff. Just during the time that this 1281 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 4: season has aired, I've been so excited and having so 1282 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 4: much fun inside Star Wars. I've rewatched Rebels again, and 1283 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 4: I've rewatched the last three seasons of Clone Wars again 1284 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 4: just because I was having so much fun being inside. 1285 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 3: Star Wars stories. 1286 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 4: So I had a great time, even though I did 1287 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 4: genuinely feel like the season was a little uneven for me. 1288 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I my thought would be I understand the and 1289 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 1: somewhat share the criticism of being uneven. I considering the 1290 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: ambitions that they had, which was to kind of like 1291 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 1: tie up these final mof Gideon threads and tie down 1292 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 1: the the you know, retaking of mandalor kind of plot lines, 1293 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: I guess there was almost no way to do it 1294 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: without it feeling like a lumpier show, and it certainly 1295 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: feels like there's there's also a, in true Dave ful 1296 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Any style, a kind of larger mission to tie into 1297 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 1: the most recent trilogy and shore up some of the 1298 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: I get, you know, for lack of a better word, 1299 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: weak spots in the trilogy. That's what I think my 1300 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: main note is that, like, I am shocked still at 1301 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 1: the power that this puppet. 1302 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 2: Has over me. 1303 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: Every time they do a one shot a Warner of 1304 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 1: this of this puppet's face, every time it makes some 1305 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: sort of cooing sound or or presses the button to 1306 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: say yes or no, it is. I could watch that 1307 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: for two hours. I could just watch it cooing and 1308 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 1: making facial making different faces. It's to the emotion that 1309 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: this fucking puppet carries, it is and. 1310 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 4: The emotion that it can elicit, you know, it is. 1311 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 4: It's incredible, it conveying. It's an incredible job they do. 1312 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 3: Emo. 1313 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 4: It's an incredible performance literally, yes, from the from the 1314 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 4: puppet and the VFX operators, and it's incredible. But then 1315 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 4: it makes me like when Groku is you know, sous 1316 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 4: storming everybody in the in the invisible shield, I'm like crying. 1317 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 4: He's saving his mom and dad. I'm crying. You know, 1318 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 4: It's it's very emotional. 1319 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 3: It greatly is. 1320 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 2: I'm grateful every day that Werner has called them cowards 1321 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 2: and told them to use the puppet, because truly we 1322 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 2: need more puppets in our life. Yeah, I agree with 1323 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 2: both of you. I think you covered it up very well. 1324 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 2: I will say I am a huge fan of the 1325 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 2: Saturday Morning Adventure aspect of sci fi, of Star Wars, 1326 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,320 Speaker 2: of the things that shape George Lucas in making this 1327 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 2: the trilogy originally. So for me, I actually enjoy the 1328 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 2: wild Romp adventures and the side quests and the Plazia fifteens, 1329 01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 2: so it's easier for me to feel that I can 1330 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 2: I can sand out the unevenness because I like when 1331 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 2: it goes back to that. 1332 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: Oh one more question, are we gonna Are we going 1333 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 1: to tie up the G sixty eight loosens and the 1334 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 1: MNSTY program the very clear uh you know neo Imperial 1335 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 1: plot that is slowly unfurling there on Coruscant, which is 1336 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: probably the project to create Snoke and bring back Palpatine 1337 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 1: like further down the road. 1338 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well do you think that? 1339 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this, do you think that 1340 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 4: Do you think Moff Gideon is dead? 1341 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 1: Dead dead? 1342 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure. I thought, you know, we know, nobody 1343 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 2: really dies. We saw it off all dimes, so happened there, spider, 1344 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 2: you know, But I actually do think the explosion was 1345 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 2: big enough that he is I'm like ninety percent on 1346 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 2: the dead side ten percent on a like general grievous situation. 1347 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 2: That's the only way. 1348 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 4: We can come well, because like we've invested some much 1349 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 4: time in his spy network. You know, it's his spies 1350 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 4: that got to that are inside the New Republic. It's 1351 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 4: his spies that get to pershing in the mind flare, 1352 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,000 Speaker 4: like all of that stuff. If he's gone, does that 1353 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 4: spine network just go to someone else? Or yeah, to 1354 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,640 Speaker 4: your point, will we never see them again? Because we 1355 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 4: don't have to? 1356 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 2: I think that G. I think G sixty eight eliot. 1357 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 2: I think she is actually going to be like a 1358 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 2: very big connecting thread between all of these stories as 1359 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 2: basically the representative of the Imperial remnants. So if that 1360 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 2: spy network goes to anyone, I think it's her, and 1361 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,440 Speaker 2: I think she keeps it alive. I love that performance 1362 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 2: that Katie O'Brien did. She's so nefarious and so villainous. 1363 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:50,440 Speaker 4: I would also love to see her as a thron spy. 1364 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 4: I would love it if she if Thron saw in 1365 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,720 Speaker 4: her this is this is someone I can use to 1366 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 4: my advantage. That would be so you know, and that 1367 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 4: would be great if if basically thrown enters and just 1368 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 4: takes over the vacuum left by Maff Gideon's death. 1369 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 3: That's interesting to me. 1370 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. And also mof was 1371 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 2: outspokenly against Thrawn and constantly presented himself as a better 1372 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 2: option or suggested they were beout options. And Thorn is 1373 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 2: a very egotistical person, So I think that taking over 1374 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 2: from Moff Gideon, who didn't survive. And also if we 1375 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 2: look at the mall situation, that could also set up 1376 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 2: something very cool if ten years down the line they 1377 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 2: actually wanted to bring Moff back and it's him and 1378 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 2: thrown in that kind of competition. 1379 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Will say that I believe that Maff Gideon is dead 1380 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 1: dead only because it was you know, a feat of 1381 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 1: the force, right, that Palpatine was able to take his 1382 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: consciousness at the moment of death and move it to 1383 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, like beam in over Wi Fi to his clone. 1384 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 1: And I would assume that that is not something that 1385 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:58,679 Speaker 1: Gideon has either the wherewithal to do through the force. 1386 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 1: Certainly it had no completed his project of and right 1387 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:09,640 Speaker 1: his only force experiments anyway, and that in terms of 1388 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: the technology required to move his mind at the moment 1389 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,280 Speaker 1: of death to a place I would assume that he 1390 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 1: is not capable of doing that. That's not something that 1391 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: he would be able to do. So I think that 1392 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: he is for real dead, And I agree with you. 1393 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 1: I think that the Spy Network. I wonder if Thron 1394 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,080 Speaker 1: takes it over at a certain point and that becomes 1395 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 1: the Snoke Project. Well, it was wonderful to talk Star Wars. 1396 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: It was fun. Up Next, Comics Corner, Welcome to the 1397 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,759 Speaker 1: Hive Mind, where we explore a topic and more detail 1398 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,520 Speaker 1: with the help of expert guests. This week, Jason Manzucus 1399 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: tells us what he's reading. So I will just say, 1400 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: off rip that I am behind. But Jason, you're such 1401 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 1: a well read person. What are you reading it? 1402 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 7: You know? 1403 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 4: You know I'm also behind, I will admit, And it 1404 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 4: is you know, as a comics reader, I'm sure you 1405 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,000 Speaker 4: comics readers you both understand that feeling when you look 1406 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 4: over where your comics are and suddenly, suddenly, somehow there's 1407 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,760 Speaker 4: piles of stuff and you're like, oh God, what is this? 1408 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 4: And it's interesting what I choose to read, what I 1409 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,600 Speaker 4: choose to keep going with, and a lot of that 1410 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,280 Speaker 4: tells you, like what I'm loving, you know, and so 1411 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:33,639 Speaker 4: like I will still. 1412 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 3: I've been a. 1413 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 4: Completist on hell Boy stories, yeah, from the beginning basically, 1414 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 4: And so those are books I always read partially because 1415 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 4: they usually come in digestible stories single, one shots, two shots, 1416 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 4: or four issues. 1417 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 3: Max tell a story in Hellboy, and so I keep 1418 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 3: up with that. I love that. The what was the 1419 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 3: Cliff Chang Catwoman book that came out? 1420 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 7: Oh? 1421 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:07,679 Speaker 3: Is it called Lonely City? 1422 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:13,280 Speaker 1: No, it's called City Something. 1423 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,600 Speaker 3: I thought that was fantas I love Cliff Chang, so 1424 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,480 Speaker 3: I thought that was just fantastic. So beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. 1425 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 3: I'm another one of the artists that I really like. 1426 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 4: Declan Schalvey has a new book out right now called 1427 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 4: I Think Old Man, The Old The Old Man. 1428 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,920 Speaker 3: Maybe it's called I can't remember. 1429 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 4: There's only been a couple of issues so far, and 1430 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 4: I read that, which I really liked. 1431 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Rosie, what about you? What are you reading? 1432 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 2: Okay? So yesterday was I'm also behind on the weekly 1433 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 2: single issues. It's hard to keep up. There's so many 1434 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 2: great comics. But yesterday it was the eight if an 1435 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 2: anniversary of Superman's first appearance and Lois Lane's first appearance, 1436 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 2: and DC released this absolutely gorgeous Lowest Lane graphic novel 1437 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 2: called Girl Taking Over. It's by Ariel Jo Vilanos and 1438 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 2: Sarah Coon, who is so such a brilliant writer, and 1439 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 2: together it's just unbelievable. It's got gorgeous colours by Olivia Puccini. 1440 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 2: It's got Melanie yu Jumori did the letters, which are 1441 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 2: super dynamic, and it's basically Lowis Lane and she's Asian 1442 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 2: American and she's going to National City to start her 1443 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 2: dream internship and it is this coming of age journalism 1444 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 2: kind of mystery. But it's so vibrant and so colorful. 1445 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 2: I love those DCYA graphic novels, and this is one 1446 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,400 Speaker 2: of the best that they've done. And it's a great 1447 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 2: thing to read because it's eighty five years of Lewis Lane. 1448 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 2: So that's been a big one for me, as always 1449 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 2: reading a lot of reading a lot of manga. I 1450 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,679 Speaker 2: recently read Sticking on the DC. I recently reread Rachel 1451 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 2: Pollock's Doom Patrol Run. We sadly lost Rachel recently a 1452 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 2: really trailblazing transcreator. Her Doom Patrol Run that she took 1453 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 2: over from Grant Morrison is so good, and they recently 1454 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 2: collected it for the first time. Oh, it's unbelievable. If 1455 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 2: you love Doom Patrol, if you love Grant Morrison, you 1456 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 2: got to read it. She takes it over with Richard 1457 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 2: Case the series penciler Stam walks on there and it 1458 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 2: is just so subversive and a truly great follow up 1459 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,040 Speaker 2: to Morrison's Doom Patrol on which is one of the 1460 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 2: greatest of all time. 1461 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 4: Ooh, that's great because like that's a Doom Patrol a book. 1462 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 4: I have almost zero knowledge of D Like DC in general, 1463 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 4: I'm very ignorant of is so much so that I 1464 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 4: would love if and I don't want to put you 1465 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 4: on the spot, but if you have any recommendations, I've 1466 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 4: recently watched a ton of the animated a ton of 1467 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 4: the DC animated movies, right YEI, which I'd only seen 1468 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 4: a couple here and there, and I just watched a 1469 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 4: whole bunch of them that were all about John Constantine. Oh, well, 1470 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,680 Speaker 4: another character that I'm woefully ignorant of. So if you 1471 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 4: have like runs or you know, go this writer or 1472 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,679 Speaker 4: this era or whatever I want to hear. 1473 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 2: It, You're going to be very happy. Because Constantine was 1474 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 2: created by Alan Moore, so you're in a good place. YEA, 1475 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 2: the brilliant space. I would say the old school, the 1476 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 2: ago hell Blazer, which is what his story was, is 1477 01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,799 Speaker 2: one of the best places to go. They actually recently 1478 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,679 Speaker 2: did a really incredible John Constantine y a graphic novel 1479 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,719 Speaker 2: in that same series, which is a really good jumping 1480 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 2: on point that I adored, and it has really really 1481 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,759 Speaker 2: beautiful art. There's so many good ones. I love Mike Carey. 1482 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 2: He did a great hell Blazer run. So you're really 1483 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,759 Speaker 2: blessed because John Constantine is basically it's all good stuff. 1484 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 2: It's just such a great character. I love him so much. Also, 1485 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 2: I would say, if you want to watch more John Constantine, 1486 01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 2: they didn't hit the version that Matt Ryan did in 1487 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,439 Speaker 2: Legends of Tomorrow. You can just skip to when he joins. 1488 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 2: It's like, I love all of Legends, but it's so good. 1489 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 2: Book is like an incredible John Constantine and he actually 1490 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,439 Speaker 2: ended up voicing him in some of those later movies too. 1491 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,479 Speaker 3: Oh okay, cool, Yeah, I've watched none of that show. 1492 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a joyous queer superhero romp through space. Great, 1493 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 2: very very star Wars in that way, like Villain of 1494 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 2: the week kind of. 1495 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 4: Have you guys ever read Johanna the Chris Book? 1496 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:56,759 Speaker 2: I love that book. 1497 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 4: That book is absolutely fantastic and dible, all ages book 1498 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 4: that I cannot recommend, especially if you have a young 1499 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 4: person in your life who you want to read comics 1500 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 4: or who does read comics. Chris Somney maybe one of 1501 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 4: my favorite artists right now. 1502 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 1: Chris. 1503 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 2: Okay, well then I'm gonna actually one of the other 1504 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 2: books I was going to recommend, which you will definitely 1505 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 2: love if you love that comic. There's this great new 1506 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,000 Speaker 2: publisher called Saturday Am that's trying to like replicate kind 1507 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 2: of the shown and Jump like Manga magazine. They have 1508 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,720 Speaker 2: this book called gun Hild by Fred Tornega, and I 1509 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 2: love this book. It's like a girl She's it's all 1510 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 2: ages comic. It feels very much in that same vein, 1511 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 2: and it's about a girl who's like a twelve year 1512 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 2: old who lives in a world of Norse gods, and 1513 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,480 Speaker 2: it's kind of like feels a bit like fantasy sports 1514 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,639 Speaker 2: and a bit it's just a really great all ages 1515 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,640 Speaker 2: kind of romp through this fantastical world with this really dynamic, 1516 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 2: beautiful art. So it's so good. I'm a huge fan. 1517 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 2: I think that they just collected it in print recently. 1518 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 1: I have one thing to recommend, even though I am behind, 1519 01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: and this is an older not older, but a recent 1520 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 1: but but it's the run is finished. And this is 1521 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 1: the Good Asian Yes, which is now Oh incredible books. 1522 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 2: Incredible adapted to company. 1523 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 1: By porn Sac Pisiste and Alexander TCHEFENGI beautiful, gritty, pulpy 1524 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 1: art this morning. A really really cool story about a 1525 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,080 Speaker 1: Chinese American detective on the trail of a killer during 1526 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 1: the era of the Chinese Exclusion ACTU just really really great, 1527 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: a wonderful read, and it's a finished story. If you 1528 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: want to pick something up that you can just be 1529 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: done with with definitive ending. Uh, it's available there in 1530 01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 1: trade paperback, multiple volume trade paper I'll. 1531 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 4: Throw out another recommendation because it's a mashup of two 1532 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,840 Speaker 4: things that I really love, which is the I'm a 1533 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:51,160 Speaker 4: fan of all really was the very into the Kirkman 1534 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 4: Walking Dead books as they were coming out, very into 1535 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,320 Speaker 4: the Walking Dead. I never really converted into a TV 1536 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 4: show watcher by I loved that comics run and but 1537 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 4: one of my favorite comics writer and artists Tilly Walden 1538 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 4: has done, has done now a story and now a 1539 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,400 Speaker 4: second one is coming out set in that world called Clementine. 1540 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 1541 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 4: Tilly Walden incredible, uh has has put out a number 1542 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 4: of truly incredible on a sunbeam spinning graphic novels that 1543 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:27,760 Speaker 4: are just. 1544 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 2: One of the best cartoonists working at the moment. Without question, Are. 1545 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,600 Speaker 4: You Listening is another one of hers that are just 1546 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 4: really fantastic. 1547 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved Clementine also has it's got disabled protagonist 1548 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,919 Speaker 2: because it's Clementine from the Walking Deck Games. It's amazing. 1549 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 2: It's set an Amish country, which is something I feel 1550 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 2: like I've never really seen in comics. I loved that 1551 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 2: comics so much. I actually chatted to Tilly about it 1552 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 2: Polygon with just a really great interview. Tilly was recently 1553 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,679 Speaker 2: made the Comics Laureate of Vermont. 1554 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 3: We really yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh that's rare. 1555 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, those Clementine comics are red and you know what, 1556 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 2: a lot of fans did not approach them in a 1557 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 2: supportive way because, as we know, some top fandoms can 1558 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 2: be quite toxic. So I would just say go out 1559 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:10,479 Speaker 2: and read. 1560 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,560 Speaker 1: Those wait really, oh yeah, unfortunately. 1561 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 3: But Rosie is certainly not comics. 1562 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 1: Unfortunately. That is the case. Let's see, since we spent 1563 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about the Mandalorian in this episode, 1564 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: and that is, you know, on some level inspired by 1565 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,880 Speaker 1: the classic Wolf and Cub comics. You know, anytime you 1566 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,280 Speaker 1: have an older warrior with a baby, the baby, it 1567 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 1: can only be inspired by a Wolf and Cub. Any 1568 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,440 Speaker 1: particular favorite Wolf and Cub stories for either of you, Rosie. 1569 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 2: Well, I would say, if you haven't read it, go 1570 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,839 Speaker 2: and read Lone Wolf and Cub. Dark Horse has multiple 1571 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 2: collections of them. It's like one of the most influential 1572 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 2: comics ever made. It's the writer is Kazu Koike, and 1573 01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 2: then the artist was go Cy Kajima. And these are 1574 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,680 Speaker 2: just some of the most astonishingly brilliant comics. They have 1575 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,439 Speaker 2: played a huge influencer. Frank Miller, for example, no matter 1576 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,719 Speaker 2: how you feel about him, that is someone who deeply 1577 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,360 Speaker 2: took from those comics. I would say that's the place 1578 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 2: to go, especially as we're about to watch you know, 1579 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,080 Speaker 2: Grogu and didn't go on this journey. They became assassins 1580 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 2: this episode, so it's very so I would say the 1581 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 2: classic Lone wolfh and Cub. There's so many collections. They're brilliant. 1582 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 2: You can probably get them from the library. It's this 1583 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 2: beautiful samurai story. One of the most famous manger of 1584 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,160 Speaker 2: all time. Also, I'll put out there just any Wolverine 1585 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 2: story where he was with a kid days. To me, 1586 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,519 Speaker 2: Wolverine is the like good Lone Wolf and Cub. 1587 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, he really like as a reader of the 1588 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:50,280 Speaker 4: time too. It like Wolverine really became one of my 1589 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,639 Speaker 4: favorites when he would get paired with Jubilee exactly, when 1590 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 4: you know, when they would go on and adventure together. 1591 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,720 Speaker 3: That was that's the balance that you want, you know. 1592 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,640 Speaker 2: Hope they keep that whenever they whoever they cost as Wolverine. 1593 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 2: By the way, now I'm like, are they gonna cost 1594 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,599 Speaker 2: Pager as Wolverine? Like is that happening? Because this really 1595 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,800 Speaker 2: feels like they're setting him up for it. But yeah, 1596 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 2: I hope they keep that because I think that's one 1597 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 2: of my favorite Western iterations in comics, is Wolverine as 1598 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 2: the kind of he's the cranky dad, yeah, and it's 1599 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 2: like he has to look after all these annoying mutant 1600 01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 2: kids and it's like he doesn't want to do it, 1601 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 2: but he really loves to do it, but he can 1602 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 2: still kill you with his adamantium clause. 1603 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,920 Speaker 1: That's what one of my favorite recent comics run is 1604 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,800 Speaker 1: over now. But Wolverine and the X Men, when Wolverine 1605 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 1: was basically the headmaster of the school for a period 1606 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,599 Speaker 1: of time, it was so fun because it was fun. 1607 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 1: It was that was like prime cranky dad in charge 1608 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,920 Speaker 1: of like all these preteen and teenage kids who are 1609 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,480 Speaker 1: just like you, old man. 1610 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,320 Speaker 2: He's refereeing the baseball games. 1611 01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely fun. Any any final Lone Wolf and Cub. 1612 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,920 Speaker 3: Mixed, Jason, You know, I'm trying. I'm not. 1613 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 4: I'm having trouble coming up with other comics because I'm 1614 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,559 Speaker 4: stuck on like oh yeah, like true Grit falls in 1615 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,720 Speaker 4: like Exaust that's a great Lone wolfing uh and Cub 1616 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:19,120 Speaker 4: story type story. The Sam Mendy's movie, what's the movie 1617 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 4: with Tom Hanks where he's got his son and. 1618 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 1: There he wrote todition thank you? 1619 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's great. 1620 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:25,920 Speaker 1: On a comic. 1621 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,120 Speaker 4: Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right. I'd never read it 1622 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,679 Speaker 4: though I don't I didn't process. 1623 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,960 Speaker 2: But you're right, you'll be You'll be okay with it 1624 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 2: Lone Wolf and cop I will also say, brilliant movies. 1625 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 2: So if you want more of that, to see where 1626 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:44,200 Speaker 2: that influence came from, you can really get to enjoy 1627 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:44,920 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. 1628 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:45,479 Speaker 3: It really is. 1629 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,480 Speaker 4: It's the Batman and Robin, you know, like when exactly 1630 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,800 Speaker 4: exactly when they've really leaned into it, you know, like 1631 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 4: the you know they Frank Frank Miller's done it, Like 1632 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 4: when they really lean into it. Those the Batman and 1633 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:03,240 Speaker 4: Robin relationship, when Robin especially isn't Damian Wayne, you know, 1634 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,600 Speaker 4: is not is not a cup like, he's not. 1635 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:10,480 Speaker 3: Assassin. 1636 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 2: You're right, the Dark Knight returns like Carrie Kelly exactly. 1637 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,240 Speaker 2: That's what I was very lone Wolphone Cup like, and 1638 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,719 Speaker 2: and Frank was hugely influenced by these. 1639 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,639 Speaker 4: Right because he can't he kind of can't shake her. 1640 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 4: He kind of she is you know, there is an 1641 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 4: element of it. There's a reluctant dad element too that 1642 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 4: I think is part and parcel of this. It's not 1643 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,479 Speaker 4: his child, he just has to take care of the women. 1644 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love that. Also. I I went when 1645 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 2: The Batman came out, I went to Warner Brothers and 1646 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,040 Speaker 2: I saw it and Robert Pattinson was there and he 1647 01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 2: said something that I've never forgotten where somebody was like, 1648 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,080 Speaker 2: you know, would you do a robin and he was like, 1649 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,680 Speaker 2: only if the only if robin is like eleven, and 1650 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,640 Speaker 2: I want to see it so badly because I'm like, 1651 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,439 Speaker 2: that is how weird it needs to be and that 1652 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,600 Speaker 2: is that lone wolphing cup thing like why do you 1653 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,479 Speaker 2: have a child with you? Just like we asked why 1654 01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 2: is didn't taking the baby everything? 1655 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love that. I think that would be 1656 01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,680 Speaker 3: rad and so upsetting in a. 1657 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,960 Speaker 4: Way that in a way that I feel like they're 1658 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,960 Speaker 4: interested in, Like I feel like that that Matt Reeves 1659 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 4: Batman universe is interested in him, in him making mistakes 1660 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,799 Speaker 4: and him and him, you know, taking els and that 1661 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,280 Speaker 4: that would certainly be one. 1662 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:21,559 Speaker 7: You know. 1663 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 1: Well, Jason, it's been so delightful to have you on 1664 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 1: the program. 1665 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 3: Thrilled to be here. 1666 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,160 Speaker 2: Yes, such a wonder please come back. 1667 01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:33,559 Speaker 4: Anything to oh I will plug Well you were kind 1668 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 4: enough to mention the how did this get made? 1669 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:35,960 Speaker 3: Podcast? That I do? 1670 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:36,839 Speaker 1: Horful podcast? 1671 01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:37,679 Speaker 2: Just so much fun? 1672 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 3: Oh thanks? 1673 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,559 Speaker 4: With Paul Sheer and June Diane Rayphael, where we talk 1674 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,280 Speaker 4: about terrible movies and subject ourselves to watching them. It's 1675 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,280 Speaker 4: really it's been going on for fourteen or thirteen years, 1676 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 4: and it's deeply upsetting. 1677 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,719 Speaker 3: I'll also throw out a recommendation. 1678 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,120 Speaker 4: For something that I think you're, especially fans of the show, 1679 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 4: will like, which is I'm one of the voices on 1680 01:24:55,680 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 4: Star Trek Prodigy, Yes, which is a fantastic st Our 1681 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,439 Speaker 4: Trek animated show that is geared towards young people. It 1682 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 4: is it's the first Star Trek story that takes place 1683 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,400 Speaker 4: primarily with young adults with with a it's a group, 1684 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 4: it's a found family, it's a it's a you know, 1685 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,680 Speaker 4: a group of kids who are basically trapped on a 1686 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 4: slave planet where they're you know, they they managed to 1687 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 4: steal a ship and escape and and and they go 1688 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 4: on like truly just like adventures all all throughout Star 1689 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:31,680 Speaker 4: Trek Lore and Cannon and it's fantastic Janeway Supremacy. 1690 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 2: I was just a voyager Janeway show. I should not 1691 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:35,720 Speaker 2: say no to that. 1692 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 4: It really is so fun and so beautiful, and it 1693 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,160 Speaker 4: feels very and I hope this is okay to say, 1694 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 4: but it to me feels very similar to a Clone 1695 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,320 Speaker 4: Wars or a Rebels in the sense of it is. Yeah, 1696 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 4: it is young protagonists, and it is adventure based and 1697 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,120 Speaker 4: it's a blast, and I play, you know, as always 1698 01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,040 Speaker 4: a sixteen. 1699 01:25:58,760 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 3: Year old, which is. 1700 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 1: Yet again. 1701 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 4: But please everybody watch Star Trek Prodigy. Show it to 1702 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:12,920 Speaker 4: your kids. It's incredible, hard Star Trek sci fi. It's 1703 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,720 Speaker 4: a blast. And you know, if you don't mind, it's 1704 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,080 Speaker 4: on Paramount Plus. Set it up to auto play the 1705 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:18,719 Speaker 4: whole series. 1706 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:23,639 Speaker 3: We really want it. I love that completion rate, guys, 1707 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,320 Speaker 3: I love it. 1708 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:29,640 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you so much, Jason, absolutely, thank you. Up 1709 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 1: next nerd Out. 1710 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,160 Speaker 2: In today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you 1711 01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,000 Speaker 2: love them, why, or a theory you're excited to share. 1712 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 2: Marcus pictures us on the Star Wars sequel trilogies in 1713 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 2: the wake of Star Wars Celebration twenty twenty three, and 1714 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 2: specifically on the Fantastic Daisy Ridley as Ray. 1715 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 1: Hey, Jason and Rosie, First time, long time. 1716 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 7: This week on the nerd Out, I'm pitching a small 1717 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 7: series of independent films better known as the Star Wars 1718 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:03,160 Speaker 7: sequel trilogy. 1719 01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:04,240 Speaker 3: Ever heard of it. 1720 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,200 Speaker 7: I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan who grew up with 1721 01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 7: the prequels and never ever expected we would get a 1722 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 7: sequel trilogy, but I always dreamed of one, So to 1723 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 7: get a trilogy starring an actress as talented as Daisy 1724 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,679 Speaker 7: Ridley was a dream fulfilled look. The trilogy is not perfect, 1725 01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,720 Speaker 7: and its flaws are often over exaggerated because of the 1726 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,200 Speaker 7: perverse incentives of social media, but that's a nerd out 1727 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,880 Speaker 7: for another time. Ray is quite simply one of the 1728 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,720 Speaker 7: most compelling characters in all of Star Wars, and that's 1729 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,760 Speaker 7: a testament to Daisy Ridley's incredible performances. As amazing as 1730 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,719 Speaker 7: it was to see han Leah and Luke on screen 1731 01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,160 Speaker 7: once more, it's Ray whose arc the trilogy is rightfully 1732 01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,839 Speaker 7: centered upon, and she is more than up for shouldering 1733 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:51,080 Speaker 7: that responsibility. The raucous reaction in London when Lucasfilm announced 1734 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,839 Speaker 7: Ridley was returning to the role is only a small 1735 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 7: testament to that fact. With the rise of Skywalker in 1736 01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 7: the rearview mirror and the new Jedi Order on the horizon, 1737 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 7: it's really no better time to dive do into raise 1738 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 7: arc with fresh eyes, unburdened by theories about her lineage 1739 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 7: and poisonous online discourse. Look, I can't wait to see 1740 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,760 Speaker 7: her pass on what she has learned not only from 1741 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,879 Speaker 7: her predecessors, but her sequel trilogy peers to a new generation. 1742 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 7: After all, the force is about much more than lifting rocks. 1743 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 2: Thanks Marcus. If you have theories of passions that you 1744 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,599 Speaker 2: want to share, hit us up at x ray at 1745 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,439 Speaker 2: crooked dot com. Instructions is always in the show notes, 1746 01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:32,680 Speaker 2: and we also wanted to thank everyone for sending so 1747 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,160 Speaker 2: many brilliant Mandalorian fan theories in We love featuring a 1748 01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 2: bunch on the pod and reading them over email. Apologies 1749 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,880 Speaker 2: for not being able to include them all, but thank 1750 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,559 Speaker 2: you for sending them and keep them coming. 1751 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,600 Speaker 1: That's it for us. A big thank you to Jason Manzucas, 1752 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 1: Rosie Plugs, Plugs, Plugs, Plugs Plugs read. 1753 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,880 Speaker 2: All those great comics that we talked about on the 1754 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,840 Speaker 2: old podcast. Also remember that May six is Free Comic 1755 01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 2: Book Day. Yeah, a special day where you can go 1756 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 2: to your local comic shop and you can get free comics. 1757 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,640 Speaker 2: I will be doing a signing at Jeffrey's Comics, a 1758 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 2: wonderful comic shop that I love in the South Bay, 1759 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,800 Speaker 2: with a bunch of other Godzilla fans and cool rad 1760 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,639 Speaker 2: local creators. So come and visit us there and as always, 1761 01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,040 Speaker 2: you can find me here twice a week doing this 1762 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:19,320 Speaker 2: rad podcast. 1763 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:24,160 Speaker 1: May nineteenth on Amazon Prime Slash, Amazon freeb Watch Primo 1764 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:30,360 Speaker 1: May nineteenth. 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Will be back 1773 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,000 Speaker 1: to our regular schedule programming Wednesday, May third. 1774 01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,000 Speaker 2: And if you miss us and you want to watch 1775 01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,599 Speaker 2: old episodes or watch new episodes, subscribe on YouTube where 1776 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 2: you can watch full episodes of our show. 1777 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,000 Speaker 1: Please follow us at. 1778 01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,800 Speaker 2: XRV pod on Twitter and check out the discord to 1779 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 2: meet and hang with tons of amazing fans, listeners. 1780 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,799 Speaker 1: Rat people who love rat stuff, and me and Jason 1781 01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,080 Speaker 1: five star ratings, five star reviews. We need them, we 1782 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,240 Speaker 1: gotta have them. You gotta give him to us. Here's 1783 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:26,320 Speaker 1: one from Johnny blasts fantastic. Jason and Rosie are very 1784 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,639 Speaker 1: well researched and hilarious. I love this podcast. Their love 1785 01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,400 Speaker 1: of comics has introduced me, and through me, my children, 1786 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,599 Speaker 1: a wonderful world of comics. Thank you so very much. 1787 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,719 Speaker 1: Thank you, Johnny Bless read comics. 1788 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:39,439 Speaker 2: We love that. 1789 01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:41,639 Speaker 1: X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show 1790 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:43,400 Speaker 1: is produced by Chris Lord and Soul Rubin. The show 1791 01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,479 Speaker 1: is executive produced by myself and Sandy's Road are editing in. 1792 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:50,519 Speaker 1: Sound designers by Vacillis Photopoulos, Dylon Villanueva and Matt de 1793 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,080 Speaker 1: Group provide video production support. Alex Rollerford handle social media. 1794 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Thank you Brian Vasquez for the music. See you next time. 1795 01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:03,600 Speaker 2: Bye,