1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,240 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 2: What's your name? 3 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: This is Jason. 4 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: What's up, Jason? Where are you calling from? 5 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm calling from Japan. 6 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: You're calling from Japan? Yeah, what what are you doing 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: in Japan? 8 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 3: Actually? 9 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so we've met before. 10 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Wait, I know exactly who you are, all right, I'm 11 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell a story to the chap, to the 12 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: listeners real quick. I'm gonna set a little bit of context. 13 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: So two years ago, I took a trip alone to 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: Japan as a gecko because I wanted to go and 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to make some gecko content there, and I 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: was I did this. I was live streaming myself in 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: a gecko suit walking around. I never I never like 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: made a video out of this. It's just it was 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: just kind of a live stream that I did. And 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: I was live streaming myself as a gecko walking around 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: Japan and talking to people, and I was looking at 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 2: my chat and somebody in my chat was like, yo, dude, 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm like within a mile of where you currently are 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: right now, and I'm like, you're lying. I'm in fucking Tokyo. 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: There's no reason that anyone who's watching my stream right 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: now would be where I am right now. And you 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: were like, no, I'm serious, and everyone in the chat 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: was like, this guy's fucking trolling you, Lyle. This guy's 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: just gonna make you wait and then be like, no, 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. I'm in Alabama. And I was like, 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: you know what, No, I have faith that this chatter 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: is not trolling me and he actually is gonna stream 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: snipe me. So and I'm gonna say And I sat 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 2: and I waited, and I was like, yeah, this chatter 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: is gonna come meet me wherever he is in Japan. 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: And everyone in the just not you had not one 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 2: supporter in the chat. They were all like, this fucking 38 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: guy is trolling you. And sure enough, a man comes 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: up to me and he's like you are you, Lyle? 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, are you Jason? And fucking that 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: was it. And then we wait. We we walked around. 42 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: You hung out on my stream and we walked around 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: and we uh we had a good time. We went 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: to this fucking crazy mall and uh, you told me 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: your life story and uh it was cool, it was great. 46 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: And now we're on the phone together two years later. 47 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: How you do it with Jason? 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm all right, so, uh yeah, that's it was a 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: little bit more than I was in Shibuia, and I 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: saw you and my younger brothers like, you have to 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: you have to go stream slamp and I was like, 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I was like, that's 53 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, I like, it's it's such an awkward thing. 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: But no, So yeah, we hung out for like an 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: hour and a half two hours, and then because of you, 56 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: I started streaming. And then after that, I don't I 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: watched another streamer read a book about a guy who 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: walked across Japan and thought, I want to do that. 59 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Like I turned thirty last year and I was still 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: a kind of chunky, but I wanted to change my life, 61 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: and so I I this year. I just got back 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: from walking across Japan. I walked like two thousand miles 63 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: across Japan. And that was because I met you, Like 64 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: you said, go do content stuff and maybe it works out, 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't, but you should try. And so I 66 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: fucking did the thing. 67 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: And wow wow yeah yeah, so we were I we 68 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: so we were talking about it a little bit on 69 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: the stream. But then after I ended the stream, you 70 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: and I we were taking the uh subway somewhere. We 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: were just chatting about like content and stuff, and you 72 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: were telling me you wanted to do some shit and 73 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: we had it. We talked about it. Yeah yeah, and 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: I think I think, I think, uh uh, you bought 75 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: me a paperry sweat. 76 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, so we because you had to go 77 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: to a sushi place across it was it was on 78 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: my way back home. And yeah, yeah, so I bought 79 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: you for christ and then you want you bought the 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: So I bought two drinks, O Kari sweat and a 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Deca Vida, the vitamin orange citrusy drink. 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, that's awesome. So inspired by that conversation, 83 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: You've walked across fuck I didn't. Hey man, I didn't 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: say to walk across all of Japan. That's overkilled. That's 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: too much. 86 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: No, No, it's I Like I said, it was a 87 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of a perfect storm of watching you and then 88 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: watched another like a Japanese woodlock printer guy who has 89 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: been in Japan for a long time. I read this 90 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: book and then it's like in the book he's like, 91 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm thirty years old, I've been in Japan eight years. 92 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: What the fuck am I doing? And I was like, hey, 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm thirty years old. I've been in Japan seven years. 94 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: What the fuck am I doing? 95 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: You know? 96 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: And I wanted to go out and it's something I 97 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: had to do, not necessarily content, but I had to 98 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: do it for myself. And then many people said, please 99 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: share it if you can, and so I did. I 100 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: streamed like ninety five percent of it because I thought 101 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 1: people might get something from it even if I don't. 102 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: But were you streaming? Were you streaming while you were asleep? 103 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: No? No, no, I didn't. I had work, So I 104 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: worked full time and walked, and so I would work 105 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: like six am to nine point thirty, leave the hotel 106 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: at ten, walk like twenty miles a day, fifteen twenty 107 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: miles a day, and then get to the next hotel 108 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: and work at night and go to sleep like that 109 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: was my routine. 110 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: That's fucking crazy. So where did you start and then 111 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: where did you end? 112 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: I started at the very very southern point of Japan, 113 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Cape Sata in Kagoshima, and then I finished at the 114 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: very very northern part of Hokkaido, Cape Soya. 115 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: Holy shit, you walked to the entire country. 116 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: I walked the entire country. 117 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's completely insane. 118 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: How long. 119 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Did that take you? 120 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty nine days. 121 00:05:53,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: By yourself, by myself? Yeah, that's fucking crazy man. And 122 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: how did this I had, like go ahead. 123 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, I had. The reason it took so long 124 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: is because I had probably like ten days that I 125 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: like throughout the trip, I had injury days, like my 126 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: hip got messed up, my foot got messed up, stuff 127 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: like that. So I had to like sit tight in 128 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: a hotel room for a couple of days at a time, 129 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: but almost every day like my average walking I watched 130 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: thirty thousand steps on average for the six months. 131 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: That's fucking crazy man. So the streams did people were 132 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: people watching along while you were doing it? 133 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I grew quite a lot. I started, Like when 134 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: I started the trip, I was I don't know, twenty 135 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: twenty five average viewers, and now it's like at the 136 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: end of it, it was a couple hundred, like one 137 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two hundred, you know, So it's wonderful. Yeah, 138 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people because it's outside of like I mean, 139 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: you came to like Tokyo Osaka's cool, but like I 140 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: was in like the Montana of Japan, you know, like 141 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: I was placed there. 142 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that sounds fucking no. 143 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: We oh it was really fucking cool. And I made 144 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: like I have a whole stack of like every place, 145 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Like I had to call so many places and I 146 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: was like, hey, you guys have any rooms, like ah, 147 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: now we're full, and I explained the project to them, 148 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Well we might have a room, but are you like 149 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: a guest, are you a foreigner? Like what's what's going on? 150 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: And so I had to call THEMM like almost negotiate 151 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: a lot of places to like let me in. And 152 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: there were like half a dozen to a dozen places 153 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: that were like you're the first non Japanese person to 154 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: ever be here, like ever, like this is one hundred 155 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: year olds in, you're the first one Like wow. 156 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: Wow Yeah, because I guess when you're walking across the country, 157 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 2: you run into a lot of places where it's like 158 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: like no tourist would ever go to this place of 159 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: the countryside. 160 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's so remote. There were some places I 161 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: was at where there was a bus that ran like twice, 162 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: like seven thirty in the morning, like five thirty the 163 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: afternoon or in the evening. 164 00:07:59,000 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: That's it. 165 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: So even if I like I didn't take transportation, but 166 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: if I had to. Then I got to like sit 167 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 1: at a bus stop or sleep at a bus stop 168 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: until you know, if I you know, emergency type shit. 169 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: So wow, did you ever have to sleep outside? 170 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: Uh? 171 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: Twy the camp twice? It was I think day sixteen 172 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: or seventeen. I stayed at a campsite. I didn't have 173 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: work that night, and then I slept at a bungalow, 174 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: which is like, I guess that's not the way nowtside, 175 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: It's just a cabin type thing. But yeah, that was it. 176 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Every other time I stayed at like local inns, small 177 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: little hot spring towns or I mean it just I 178 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: mean one hundred and fifty eight different hotels or like 179 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: inns and stuff. 180 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: So everything. 181 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, where was the coolest place that you saw 182 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: along your route? 183 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: And that's hard, that's hard because there were there were 184 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: like I made paper, like I made traditional Japanese style 185 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: paper and made a bunch of friends in Etchison and Ukui. 186 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: But as far as scenery, I mean, Hokkaido is nuts. 187 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: Like a lot of people go to Hokaido and they 188 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: go to the cities Hakodate or Sathwoo or something. But 189 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: when you're out like towards the top of Hokkaido, there's 190 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: nothing like there were some days I had to walk 191 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: twenty five miles to the next town, like there was 192 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: nothing between towns. So you have to pack food, pack water, 193 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: and that's it. Like it's it's so vast in a 194 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: way that like Tokyo is not, or it's it's vast 195 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: in a way that's different. Tokyo's vast is a city 196 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: out there, it's just like quiet, peaceful flat roads. Like yeah, 197 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to explain. 198 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: Did you get lonely walking across just being by yourself 199 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: for one hundred and sixty nine days. 200 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: I did well, you know, when I had stream on, 201 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't too bad. But what really hit me is 202 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: like eating dinner almost every night alone. And that sounds 203 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: so like when you're in a hotel, and so it is. 204 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean, especially when you know in Tokyo, it's like 205 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: I can have dinner with friends or you know, significant 206 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: other or whatever and it's uh, but on the road, 207 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: it's like it's just me. And sometimes the innkeepers would 208 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: come and have dinner with me, but a lot of 209 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: times they would not. They would just be like because 210 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: even though I speak Japanese, they were like, ah, like 211 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of a client and not client customer patron 212 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: type thing, so they don't want to like encroach on 213 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: the customer's eating experience or something. 214 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: So do you speak fluent Japanese? 215 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: I speak pretty good. I mean I had I traveled 216 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: for six months for one hundred and sixty nine days, 217 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Sladay problems fluent. I don't like the word fluent. I 218 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: think a lot of people throw fluent around, and that's 219 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: for me. Fluent means no hiccups at all, and I'm 220 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: not quite there. 221 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: But I spoke with like. 222 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Old dudes for a couple hours at a time, politics 223 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: or I had trouble talking about religion because I just 224 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: never studied those words and so it's it's like I 225 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: have thoughts about it, but I couldn't articulate it as well. 226 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: So pretty conversational, say above conversational. 227 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: Tell me about some of these conversations that you had 228 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: with these like elderly Japanese folks on the country side, 229 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Like there any stories, did you learn anything? Did you 230 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: like to tell? What would you take away? 231 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: You know, I felt there was one guy in Particu. 232 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean I talked with a lot, but there was 233 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: the one guy that's kind of burned into my memory. 234 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: He wasn't old. 235 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: He was. 236 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: Fifty eight, which I mean, I guess relative. I'm sure 237 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: some people in chat are going to be like fifty 238 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: eights old as anyway, but I remember it really kind of. 239 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: I felt so weird because I'm doing this trip. I'm 240 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: a little bit past halfway. I'm in in yudah and 241 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: Igata and it's this kind of beach town type thing. 242 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: And I talked to the owner of the Yokamda Japanese 243 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: in and he's drunk and we're drinking, and he goes, man, 244 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: you must be really rich to travel like this, and 245 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: I said, not really. I saved during COVID and I'm 246 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: just an English teacher, Like I don't make money from 247 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: I make a few bucks from twitch or whatever. But 248 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm not rich. I just saved during COVID. 249 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: And he goes, well, it's it's really cool that he 250 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: said you're You're so cool and I'm so stupid. And 251 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? And he goes, man, 252 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: I've been in this town. I'm fifty eight years old. 253 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: I've been in this town. I've been working at this 254 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: same inn for forty years and he's like, I've never 255 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: he said, I've only been to Tokyo like twice. He said, 256 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: I've never traveled in Japan and I've never done this 257 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: and that, And he said, here, you are a foreigner 258 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: and you're doing this crazy thing. And I'm just a 259 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: fifty eight year old old man and I don't have money. 260 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: I just have this in and like that really stuck 261 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: with me because I'm like, fuck, like you know, I'm 262 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: just sitting there. 263 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: Like what do I say? 264 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you are you know, like what do you want? 265 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: Like I don't know what? And so he and I 266 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: drank for a couple more hours, but it very much 267 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: was you know, I told him, I was like, this 268 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: isn't you know, that's your life and you can still 269 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: make changes. Fifty it's young, you can still go travel 270 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: like you're gonna you're gonna outlive me, dude, you know. 271 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: So But for me, that stuck with me, cause like 272 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: it's very much we make our lives and sometimes we 273 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: are born into family businesses, we're born into situations and 274 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: it's hard to. 275 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: Get out of that. 276 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: But for that, it kind of hit me like if 277 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to get stuck in something I have 278 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: to take active choices to get out of that. 279 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: Totally. 280 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, that's that's so interesting because you know you 281 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: are a foreigner, but yet you've seen probably more Japan 282 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: than most Japanese people have. 283 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but almost Like that's one thing whenever I traveled 284 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: to like not that I'm not checking things off and 285 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: making a list, but just like in America, like how 286 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: many Americans have been to the Midwest, I mean, how 287 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: many like you know, flyover states, Like how many people 288 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: have actually been to Oklahoma or Kansas or you know whatever, 289 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: And so the same thing in Japan, like people go 290 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: to Tokyo, Osaka, Oki, Noawa, Hokkaido, but no one's going 291 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: to Shimani Prefecture to go, you know, check out hot 292 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: springs or whatever. 293 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: So I also love the perspective of like, I mean, 294 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: you know this trip that you take, I mean, you 295 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: have a remote job, but a lot of people have 296 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: remote jobs these days. It's like you would this trip 297 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: did it sounds to me? And you know, you can 298 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,119 Speaker 2: tell me if if you don't know what the financials 299 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: are of doing something like this, But this isn't a 300 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: trip that it seems like it's something you are able 301 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: to do because you have a lot of necessarily a 302 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: lot of money. It's something you're able to do just 303 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: because you fucking put your because you had the fucking 304 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: balls to do it, you know. 305 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is one thing, I mean, full disclosure, 306 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: the entire trip, food, lodging, everything, about eight to ten 307 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. But when you think about, like that's six. 308 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: Months, eight ten dude, eight to ten thousand dollars over 309 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: six months is like what that's like that month nothing? 310 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and I know some people are like, well, 311 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: that's a lot of money. I'll never do it, But 312 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean I saved during. 313 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: COVID like that, that's not a lot of money. That's 314 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: seventeen hundred. That's like cheaper. That's seventeen hundred dollars a month. 315 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: That's cheaper than if you that's not a lot, but 316 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: that's cheap, literally cheaper than if you like rents an 317 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: apartment in a in a major city in America. 318 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like multiply seventy to seventy seventy five percent 319 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: of my hotel nights were like five to six thousand 320 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: in which were like forty to forty five bucks. 321 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, that's cheaper than a yeah. 322 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of those included one to two meals. 323 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: So it's like some people ask me, that's a lot 324 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: of money. It's like, well not, I mean yes, if 325 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: you just like here's ten thousand dollars cash, but you know, 326 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: and that's what I had to work. Like some of 327 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: my other streamer friends are like, why why didn't you 328 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: like just stream And I'm like, cause I make like 329 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: three hundred bucks a month from it, Like you know, 330 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: let me just quit my fucking job to do this thing, 331 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, like, uh yeah, souse. 332 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: I mean that's uh. I mean that's like the fact 333 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: that you were able to like have a have a 334 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: remote job that you could do while you were doing this, yeah, 335 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: is great. And I mean finding a job. You know what, 336 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: what's your remote job? 337 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: I still teach English? Yeah, I still do English teaching. 338 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: So again, I don't make a ton of ton of money, 339 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: but I have the schedule too, you know. I've I've 340 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: spent the last eight years kind of shaping my life 341 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: bit by bit, whittling away the things I don't need, 342 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: adding into things that I want. 343 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: And so m hmm, what are you gonna do now 344 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: that you've accomplished this. 345 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people ask if I'm gonna write a book. 346 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: They they, uh, you know, I was inspired by a book, 347 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: and I'll do that. I do need to put some 348 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: stuff up on YouTube. What book the Roads to Sata? 349 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: I thought you were inspired by me? I was I 350 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 2: was gonna take like all the credit for this. 351 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: No I mean no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 352 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: you you inspired? 353 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: Like no, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm 354 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm completely kidding. 355 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 3: What's what's yeah? 356 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: No, no, what's that? What's that? What's the book? 357 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 358 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: So The Roads to Sata by Alan Booth. I con 359 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: sindu you a message or something later, but no, I 360 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: mean no, no, cap. 361 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, Oh what's the what's the book about? 362 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: It's it's about who again. The book is not necessarily 363 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: earth shattering good. It was more of it's one of 364 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: those one of those things that hit you at that moment. 365 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: Like if I had read the book this year, I 366 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have had the same But it was halfway 367 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: through the book. In the book, I'm like, God, this 368 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: guy is a British guy and he's writing about how 369 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: dreary countryside Japan is and how it because it's post 370 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: he did his walk in nineteen seventy seven, and I thought, man, 371 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: this guy's kind of boring and I don't you know whatever, 372 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: And so then halfway through the book, he goes, I'm 373 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: thirty years old, I've been in Japan for eight years? 374 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: What am I doing? And I thought, oh shit, I'm him, 375 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: like not not necessarily a mirror, but I go, oh, 376 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: this guy is just like me, and so it more 377 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: inspired me to just go out and do my own 378 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: shit and figure things out. 379 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: So that's so cool, man, I really, I really love that. 380 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: Honestly, it's you, like it's I'm not I'm not bullshitting 381 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: it like it if you hadn't it mainly the conversation 382 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: we had in the train after. But if you hadn't 383 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: did you start doing stuff? I would have probably never 384 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: watched that other guy's stream, never saw the book, never 385 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: saw like in a weird butterfly effect way like no therapy, 386 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: get go, no, like it wouldn't have happened. 387 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: I'm I'm so, I'm so so honored, and I really 388 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: I I'm very very touched by that and very honored 389 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: by that because I'm inspired by you, brother, this is 390 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: we're we're playing a little inspiration tennis right now. To 391 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: be honest with you, because I'm I'm kind of like, 392 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: should I walk across fucking Ireland or not? I'm definitely 393 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: not Ireland, but some some other place. I'm like, you're 394 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: you're Because I'm about to turn twenty seven. Then I'm 395 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: really tired, and I feel it's like making me fucking 396 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: sad because I have so so much of my life 397 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: has been like on these crazy adventures and been fueled 398 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: by a desire to go on crazy adventures and do 399 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: weird stuff. And I'm like tired now, and I'm like, oh, 400 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: I hope I'm not tired forever. Yeah, you know, because 401 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: I want to. 402 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a struggle, Sorr, No, you go ahead, 403 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: I slug around. 404 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: Well. 405 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a struggle that because when I 406 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: did this trip, I had so many people asking me like, oh, 407 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: you should collab with this guy, you should do this, 408 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: you should do this, and I'm I had to tell 409 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people there I'm like, I didn't do 410 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: this for content, Like I'm I am making content from 411 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: it and I am streaming it. If the camera blows 412 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: up tomorrow, fuck you guys, like I mean, I I don't. 413 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I'm very proud of my community. But 414 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: doing things simply for content, I think is and I'm 415 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: not saying this, but doing things just to do them, 416 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: you get in this monotony and then it you do 417 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: get tired from it, like like I'm back in Tokyo. 418 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: I've been back in Tokyo a couple of weeks, and 419 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm feeling tired of like, gotta do this thing, gotta 420 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: do this, like I don't. It's it's exhausting, dand. 421 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean, look, dude, I I the 422 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: thing I was making when you and I met, I'm 423 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: sure I was streaming it, but I also planned to 424 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: make it into a YouTube video. But the main reason 425 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: I was streaming, the main reason I did the thing 426 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: that I did when you and I met, was because 427 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to fucking walk around Japan and like, dude, shit, 428 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: I went to fucking Thailand and I filmed a bunch 429 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: of stuff and I still haven't put it out because 430 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: the main reason I did it is because I just 431 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: I wanted to go and talk to people and have 432 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: have the weird cool adventure. Yeah no, and so I 433 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: just I've always looked at it as also kind of 434 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: like that's specifically that stuff, specifically going and making videos 435 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: in foreign countries and stuff. That stuff is just the 436 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: content is just like I'm gonna have way more interesting 437 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: and cooler adventure is if I have a camera and 438 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: I have my Gecko suit, then if I just kind 439 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: of went and didn't do anything, and it's also it's 440 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: fun to document it and share it with other people. 441 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: Well, and that's that's one thing that I I didn't realize, 442 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: Like with you and I video, I did end up 443 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: shortening it down and I put it on my YouTube channel. 444 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: I hope that's all right, because I didn't want. 445 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: To Yeah, sure here what before I ever? What's your 446 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: YouTube channel? I want to plug it to the people. 447 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: Since a Martian, Yeah, since a Martian, since a Martian? 448 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, sense a Martian? 449 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. There's no underscore, Yeah, no underscore on the YouTube. 450 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: There is on the twitch because like I originally had 451 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: the original and then I forgot all that ship and 452 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: I had to make. 453 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: Any one us Hey, how the hell do you spell? 454 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: Sense s E N S E? I okay, and then 455 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: Martian they can figure that one out ahead. What were 456 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: you saying. 457 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: Uh, but no. I I A lot of people you know, 458 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: reached out through the therapy through you, sorry, and they're like, 459 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: I wish I could find that VOD And I was like, well, 460 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: it's on twitch, Like go to Lyles Twitch. It's on there. 461 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: That gets hard to find. I go, okay, I'll post 462 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: up our conversation part of it on my thing so 463 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't get lost. But I didn't realize how, especially 464 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: like because I do long streams, like I'll walk outside 465 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: for like eight hours a day type shit, and so 466 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: it's not like like your show is a show one two, 467 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: three hours maybe, and so people can watch that in 468 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: the entirety. But my streams were like second screen. People 469 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: were working, some people would fall asleep to the ASMR 470 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: of the rain falling or the highway trucks or whatever. 471 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a different type of content. 472 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 473 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: So I'm with you though on the yes, sometimes people 474 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: could be like with certain with certain things, and I 475 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: get it with certain because there's certain there's certain types 476 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: of and and my hold on I'm gonna try to 477 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: actually say a real thing. The there's types of content 478 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: certain ways. I've like looked at my career and looked 479 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: at what I'm doing where I have looked at it 480 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: in that sense of like oh I want to make 481 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: the best thing, or like do something that will go 482 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: viral or be popular. And still there's very like I make. 483 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: I do a lot of different things, and some things 484 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: I do look at with that lens, but there's a 485 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 2: lot a lot of things where it's like, oh, I 486 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: just I literally just want to do this, just to 487 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 2: do it because it's exciting and cool, and those are 488 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: of course, you know. I mean, that's where the most 489 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: compelling thing is for me. I mean, I fucking made 490 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: this video where I traveled, uh Like, I just walked 491 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: around the beach in Australia and I talked to people 492 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, this is so cool. This 493 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: is like I'm in I'm in Australia on the beach alone, 494 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: talking a random people and getting really interesting interviews with them. 495 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: And everyone was just like that, we want to watch 496 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: you take talk to people about diarrhea and the phone 497 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: from your house. And I was like, all right, that's fine, 498 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: but I don't. 499 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: But I still like to do a question for you, 500 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: like how do you balance? I mean, because not I'm 501 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm a drop in the butt like you know, but 502 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: I am a lot of people have asked me like, oh, Jason, 503 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: you should push to be more full time, and I'm like, 504 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't get to decide that. The universe like it's 505 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: it's a luck thing. It's a luck and a networking thing. 506 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: But for you, like you're you're there, like you can 507 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: you have doda kata on or you have uh I 508 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: mean you you have these opportunities, how do you decide like, 509 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: all right, I want to have this person on versus 510 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: like I want to answer fan mail like is that 511 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: something you you do day by day or is that 512 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: something that. 513 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: It's it's I guess people through throughout my throughout the 514 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: four four or five years I've been doing this, it 515 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: is that my motivations of strongly uh evolved, my motivations 516 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: and priorities and certain things have strongly evolved. Uh well 517 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: because for me, like there's certain kinds of content that like, 518 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: you know, well, there's certain kind of content that like 519 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: you know, make some money, and then there's certain kind 520 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: of content that like, oh I just really fucking want 521 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: to do this, and you know you kind of you 522 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: kind of you kind of balance it and then there's 523 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: stuff like and then there's stuff like touring where it's like, 524 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: you know, this is like this makes money and is 525 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: really fun and exciting and cool. 526 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 527 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: Ideally, if you can find something that makes money and 528 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: is really fun and exciting and cool, then then you've 529 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: hit the jackpot. 530 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 531 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I actually talked to. And so after 532 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: my walk, like a few of the creators in Japan 533 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: are like, oh, so you you like because some people 534 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: they heard it, but like it rumors out because it 535 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: is the content creation world in your pan is very 536 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: wide but not very deep. So just take degrees with 537 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon, like it's like two degrees of Chris broad 538 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: like and so people so anyway, and they're like, oh, 539 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: so you like biked it and I was like, ah, no, 540 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: I walked it and they're like what why? And that 541 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: was different, Like They're like I would like why would 542 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: you take the time to do that? And you know, 543 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: I was like I had to. It was something that 544 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, I had to see for myself, kind of 545 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: like when I bought the one way ticket to Japan, 546 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: Like what am I made of? And now I'm thirty? 547 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 548 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 3: What am what? 549 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: Am I still made? Of you know, like, what am I? 550 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: What are my limits if I don't go out and 551 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: push them? And I found out, like I you know, 552 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: hurt my body quite a bit throughout this thing, but 553 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: I also found out I can do way more than 554 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: I thought I could. 555 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: So dude, you're awesome. I think this is so cool. 556 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: Again we're playing we're playing inspiration tennis because you're I 557 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: I really do I feel like tired And I'm like, uh, 558 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: I feel too young to be tired. And I'm like 559 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: kind of nervous that I'm only gonna get more tired 560 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: as I get older. And so to hear that, you 561 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you're three years older the man 562 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: you're going on this crazy, fucking it physically challenging thing. 563 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, maybe I'm not. Maybe maybe I'm not. 564 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm not dead yet, you know. 565 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well. And you know, like I said, I 566 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: I watch your stream as often as I can't. Time 567 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: time difference kind of fucks with that. But yeah, I 568 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: mean I started the trip at two hundred and ninety 569 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: six pounds wow, and I hadn't because I last last year, 570 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: I walked from Tokyo to Kioto as like a test 571 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: tour leg muscle, and then I spent three months recovering 572 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: from that, and I thought, okay, I got to do 573 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: this one because if you know, I got but I 574 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: got to be smarter about it. 575 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: But can I ask what you ended the trip on. 576 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: About two sixty two fifty eight? 577 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: Whoa? 578 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, I'm not like chiseled or anything, 579 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: but I feel a lot better. 580 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's wonderful. 581 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: It's like and it's just walking, like walking doesn't even 582 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: I had a forty five pound backpack the whole time 583 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: because like York stuff, stream stuff, clothing and stuff. But uh, 584 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: just getting out there and taking some steps. 585 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: What's well, well, I don't forgive me if I asked 586 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: this already, But what's next for you? 587 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: Uh, there's there's a couple of So I'm going to 588 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: go in December. I'm going to try to go walk Chikoku, 589 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: which is a smaller it's one of the smaller main 590 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: islands of Japan. 591 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: I'll do that. 592 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: But there's actually a really big YouTuber that I would 593 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: like to There's a very big American YouTuber that's talked 594 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: about coming to Japan, and I would love to get 595 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: involved with that. 596 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: Guy who is he can your name drop? Is that bad? 597 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: Can you throw it out there? Can you throw it 598 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: out that? Can you throw can you throw your invitation 599 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: out there? On the Therapy Gecko show. 600 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: I can't. 601 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: Only if you want to, I'm just yeah. 602 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: No, Ludwig has talked about motor. 603 00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: Ludwig or Ludwig. 604 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: So I luga is how he how? 605 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: I guess. 606 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: I watched the video on him talking about it, and he's. 607 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: Like it's blued big. 608 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: But a lot of people say Ludwig, and I'm like, 609 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know anyway, So yeah, Ludwig, he's 610 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: talked about driving a motorcycle across Japan, and who better 611 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: to help him than a guy who walked it, you know. 612 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: So well, if he hears this, maybe he'll maybe he'll 613 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: maybe he'll be inspired. 614 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: Well I'm I'm gonna hopefully make I need to, I 615 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: think make a make an actual video calling him. But 616 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's hard, like it's hard to 617 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: break into those upper echelons when you're down. I mean, 618 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: I anyway, it's the thing, you know, Well. 619 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: Shit, man, I might I've I don't know when, but 620 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: I keep thinking about taking another trip to Japan because 621 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: I missed it. I had such a fucking good time 622 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: last time I was there. 623 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: So if I'm back again and I will you tell me, 624 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: I'll take you wherever you want to go. You want 625 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: to see some ship that no one's seen, I'll do it. 626 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: Cool, all right, now I'll hit you. I have your 627 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: you on an email or some shit right or Instagram. 628 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll reach out against you. 629 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, out again? All right? 630 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: Cool man, dude, I'm glad we got to have this, 631 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: this this reunition on yeah, on the podcast. I'm glad 632 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: you got to tell your story because I think I 633 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: feel like either I don't know where, but I knew 634 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: that you were walking across Japan. I like saw it somewhere, 635 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: like maybe it was on your Twitch or or maybe 636 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: you reached out. I don't I don't remember where I 637 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: saw it, but I just was like, oh, I remember 638 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: I saw you doing that, Like that's fucking cool. 639 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think maybe I think you because I was 640 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: gone for I think you probably rated me a couple 641 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: of times. I don't know if you because I don't 642 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: know it's people I don't you know, other streamers, like 643 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: if they follow or not I don't know. I mean, 644 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard, like life is tough and people 645 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: are busy and so but no, I'm pretty sure you 646 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: rated me a few times and I got a lot 647 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: of like because they're like, oh shit, this is the 648 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: guy that vile met to you. Like so it was 649 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: kind of full circle moment, like yeah, but. 650 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: Well shit, Jason, isn't anything else us say to the 651 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: people the computer before we go. 652 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: Just gotta take the first steps. 653 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: That's it. 654 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: It's gotta, you know, even if it's a giant journey. 655 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: As a cliche, that is, this is a quote. 656 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: From Loud Loud Tu. I think it's from the Fucking 657 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's from the Art of War. 658 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what laud Su wrote, but I don't 659 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: even know who Lausu is, and I don't even know 660 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: if this is a quote by him. But this is 661 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: a quote by Laotsu. It's a journey of a thousand 662 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: miles begins with a single step, has been that's Gecko 663 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: on NPR. 664 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, no, but I think so many me too, 665 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: Like there are so many times where you're kind of 666 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: paralyzed with fear because you are so worried of failing. 667 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: And that's future Jason problem or future Lyle problem. I mean, 668 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: like today's today, and if you always worry about tomorrow, 669 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: then tomorrow never actually comes. Tomorrow comes, but those fears 670 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: don't because you always put things off put that not 671 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: you the general, like you know, big you, not you individually. 672 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's it's kind of like what you were 673 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: talking about earlier with like when I was younger, Like 674 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: the problems that I had nine years ago when I 675 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: got here are not the same problems I have now, 676 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: And all problems in relation to other stuff are not that. 677 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: Big Jason, great to talk to you, man, And I'm 678 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna follow you. I'm gonna follow 679 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: you on I already follow you on Twitch. I'll fow 680 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: you on YouTube. I'll be keeping up with your ship. 681 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: And I'll let you know if I come to Japan again. 682 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: Dude, Like I said, any on off stream, whatever you want, 683 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: I know, people all you want to make paper, you 684 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: want to go to a take factory. 685 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: I mean you let me know, okay, cool man, all right, 686 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: maybe I'll have to take the trip just for this. 687 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: It let me know. Yeah, But thank you so much, 688 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: and take care of yourself man, like I you know 689 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: you're doing You're doing good man. 690 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: So thank you man, thank you, thank you man. Take 691 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: care of Jason. 692 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, see you guys. 693 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 2: That was really cool. Yeah, I oh yeah, I met 694 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: that guy. Uh just he fucking streams sniped to me 695 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: when I was in Japan and we hung out and 696 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: we had this conversation about content and about life and 697 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: stuff and the train and it was it was uh, 698 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: it was great. I really feel honored that he said 699 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: that I inspired him to take the trip, and again 700 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: he's inspiring me. So who knows. Who knows? Yeah, I'm hoping. 701 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: I love I love crazy adventures. I do, I in 702 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 2: my deep heart. I love them so much. I think 703 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: I've gotten tired because I've been on so many crazy 704 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: adventures over the past, over just the years, and there's 705 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: were also beautiful and I want to keep that part 706 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: of myself alive. So yeah, I don't know. Hopefully the 707 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: folks listening have been inspired by Jason's journey. Check him out. 708 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: Go to Sense Martin on YouTube and then Sense Underscore Martin. 709 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 2: No crap, I keep calling him Martin. It's Martian Sense. 710 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: Martian Sense Martian on YouTube. Sense Underscore Martian on Twitch. 711 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: Go check him out, go watch him walk across Japan. 712 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 2: I feel like if I walked across Japan, I wouldn't 713 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: lose any weight because I would just gain all the 714 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: weight back that I was losing by walking from eating 715 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: delicious Japanese food. Thanks for calling, Jason, Hello, Hello, Hi, 716 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: what's your name? 717 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 3: Seth? 718 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: Seth? I had a friend named Seth once. 719 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: That's right. 720 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 2: There's no how oh okay, I thought you were gonna 721 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to struggle to figure out 722 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: what to say in response to that, because there's nothing 723 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: there's nothing about what I just said that invites any 724 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: kind of good way for you to respond. Like if 725 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 2: I if you were having a conversation with someone and 726 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: you said my name is Seth and they say, oh, 727 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 2: I have a friend named Seth, and then they stop talking. 728 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of options you have from there 729 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: to response to. There's someone just stating that they have 730 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: a friend named Seth. But you did a good You 731 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: did it as good of a job as you could 732 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: with the given the situation you were in. 733 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 3: My friend does that a lot. He likes to I 734 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: like to be stuck in conversation. 735 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: What's up, seth, how you doing. What do you want 736 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: to talk about? 737 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 3: I'm good. Uh well, I have two things I want 738 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 3: to talk about. Either the fact that I got to 739 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 3: college and I don't want to do anymore, or that 740 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: I have a friend that are like liked but like 741 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: it's been low key weird, but like more than that. 742 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: Is this a lady friend? Yeah, okay, you have you 743 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: have a friend that you like, but it's been like 744 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: kind of yeah. But the thing is is I've been 745 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: gay okay, and I kind of am, but like they're 746 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 2: kind of the exception is the thing. I mean, you 747 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: can be on a spectrum of oh yeah. 748 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just yeah, that part I'm not weird about. 749 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: It's just that's like a little bit of awkward. It's 750 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 3: more than just the been like completely friend zone friends 751 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 3: for a really long time and it's just kind of 752 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 3: like there's not really point anymore. 753 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 2: M hmm. What how old are you? 754 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: Eighteen and you just moved to the fresh out of 755 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 3: high school? Yeah, just went to college. 756 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 2: Where did you go to college? Did you leave your 757 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: like hometown or did you go close to home? 758 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 3: So that's that's a part of the I don't know 759 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: what to do because I stayed close to home, so 760 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: it's like I'm close to my friends, but my family 761 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: decided that they did not like where we were, and 762 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 3: so they now live around two and a half hours away. 763 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: Okay, do you like where you were in going to school? 764 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? I like the school. 765 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: It's just. 766 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 3: No one's really here, and it's like the whole thing 767 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 3: has been like I'll just get to college, just get 768 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 3: to college. Now I'm at college. 769 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 2: Now, it's like, so you like, you like this girl, 770 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: but it is weird. 771 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more complicated though, because like, so we've been 772 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: friends since I believe my junior year, and like she 773 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 3: had this one boyfriend she was friends with for a while, 774 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 3: but then she they broke up because it was just stuff. 775 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: And then there's another other other dude and he like 776 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 3: instantly was like in our friend group and we were 777 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 3: all chilling with him, and then this one camping trip 778 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 3: shit went down that like indirectly led to like the 779 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 3: downfall of my entire friend group. So shit went down 780 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 3: between the dude because he was going to go to 781 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 3: like military or something, but then he didn't, and if 782 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 3: he would have left, everything would have been fine. But 783 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: it's the fact that you stay on that camping trip 784 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 3: and stayed that fucked everything. 785 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: What how did what do you mean that fucked everything up? 786 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: So he was dating my best friend, which is the chick, 787 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 3: and so he ended up cheating on her and she 788 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 3: fucking broke up with him, and but she like said that, 789 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 3: like so they kind of went through like a rough 790 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: thing and they like were taking a break kind of, 791 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 3: but she said, we can still hang out with him. 792 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 3: But then apparently she's pissed at us for hanging out 793 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 3: with them and just is not talking to us at all. Okay, 794 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 3: I a dude's like, gone. 795 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 2: I have I have I have thoughts for for you, Seth, 796 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 2: I have some thoughts. I don't I'm I I have 797 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: some thoughts for you and about your friends being like 798 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: kind of weird and stuff. Yeah, I'm gonna just tell you. 799 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna kind of tell you my unfiltered gut reaction 800 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 2: and I don't want to minimize your I'm I just 801 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,479 Speaker 2: tell you what's going on my brain, my in my gut. 802 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 2: I'm immediately minimizing your problems because they are all happened 803 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: in high school, which once you get older, you realize 804 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: it's not fake. It is formative memories. But very naturally, 805 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: as you get older, starts to you realize, oh, that's 806 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: just so everything was nothing. But I empathize with you 807 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 2: because at the time it's not it's everything because it's 808 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: all you know at that point. But the fact that 809 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 2: you just you're eighteen and. 810 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: You just got. 811 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: Into your you're in school, and you're at it like 812 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 2: a point in life where you where you start to 813 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 2: branch out of high school and build your own life. 814 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 2: And when you cool thing about fucking you turn eighteen 815 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 2: you go to college is that you will start to 816 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: be in charge of more aspects of your life, like 817 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 2: who you choose to keep in contact with and how 818 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: much bullshit you choose to allow into your life, into 819 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 2: your brain. And you get older and make it when 820 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 2: you get you get better at making those decisions as 821 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 2: you get older, and so I got to be less 822 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: ethereal and bring it back board to where you actually are. 823 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: Is these people that you're talking about the downfall of 824 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: my friend group though whatever, whatever, whatever, how many how 825 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 2: many people are in this group? 826 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 3: So originally it was there's seven of us, okay, but 827 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 3: also there's a little bit more, uh, the camping trip. 828 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 3: Also ship went down there that led to another two 829 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 3: people of a friend breaking up, which is what I 830 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 3: mean by like the downfall. 831 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 2: Yes, but that that's not That's my promise you, Seth. 832 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 2: I promise you that information doesn't matter. How many how 833 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 2: many people are in this group seven? 834 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 835 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 2: How many of them? Seth? How many? How much Seth? 836 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 2: How many is people? 837 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 3: Do you really like from all seven of them? 838 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 2: Do you like all seven of them? Is it important 839 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: to keep in contact with all seven of them and 840 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: be friends with them? 841 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 3: I would like to. And also but like I'm moved also, 842 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 3: which is so like it's even more. 843 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: Well, you guys in a group chat, but yeah, but 844 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 2: you're in a group chat, you have Facebook, you got 845 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 2: discord but. 846 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but also the friend that's ignoring us, she just 847 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 3: doesn't respond to anything. 848 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 2: You can't do anything about that. You can't do anything 849 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, every group of every group of friends 850 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: has the one or two people who they just disappear 851 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: and you'll see with them. But I one of the 852 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: things that like you'll figure out is with your friendships 853 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: is like, and I swear I'm trying not trying to 854 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: minimize how you're feeling right now about all this, But 855 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: I really do think this is important. The people that 856 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: you like, you'll put effort into those relationships. And yes, 857 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 2: perhaps putting effort into one of your relationship ships will 858 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 2: cause another one of your relationships them to like get 859 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 2: upset with you, like, oh, why are you hanging out 860 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 2: with this person? 861 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 3: Whatever? 862 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever you're you have to decide for yourself if 863 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: you think that person is being reasonable or not. And yeah, 864 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 2: I guess fucking trying to be a peaceful person and 865 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 2: just keep in contact with the people you like. And 866 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: then if you're trying to keep in contact with people 867 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 2: that you like but they're not you're not getting the 868 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: energy reciprocated, it's okay to accept that you have no 869 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 2: control over whether or not they reciprocate your energy, and 870 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: to mourn the friendship like, oh, that's a bummer. I 871 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 2: really fucking liked this person and it's a bummer that 872 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 2: they're not getting back to me, or that than not 873 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: is part of my life. But but you just you 874 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 2: just I swear my life. You you you mourn it, 875 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 2: and you just have to mourn it and accept it. 876 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 2: And you can still really like that these people and 877 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 2: and and love these people. But if you just can't 878 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 2: really have you just have such finite time and energy 879 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: in your life too for people for relationships like that, 880 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: and because you because you're eighteen and you're in college 881 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 2: and you are like prime set up to level up 882 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: your life and make new friends and do new things 883 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 2: were that are that are ideally drama free. And to 884 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 2: sit here and talk about this fucking camping trip is 885 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: what is tragic to me, Well because it because it's 886 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 2: it's neglectful of all all that could be because of 887 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 2: a fixation on all that that was at such a 888 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: pivotal time. 889 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole the the friend group going to crap 890 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 3: thing though, is like uh huh, it's more I'm kind 891 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 3: of I'm getting to the point where I'm over it. 892 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 3: It's just it's more backstory to the am at a 893 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 3: point where it's like where do I go from here? 894 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 3: It's like I I just sit here and wait for 895 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 3: it and just kind of do my own thing and 896 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 3: see how it turns out. Or do I just move 897 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 3: on and like go do one of those like Australian 898 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 3: No not. 899 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: Uh. 900 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 3: You know how some people like when they get out 901 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 3: of high school they go for like the summer, like 902 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 3: Alaska and like gut fish and shit, just for the 903 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 3: summer and just come back. I was thinking of like 904 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 3: doing something like that and just like fucking going across 905 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 3: the country for the summer. Yeah, dude, fucking to anybody 906 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 3: do to go to Alaska. 907 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 2: And never fucking talk about this what this guy did 908 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: that was crazy at the campus. You can go to 909 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: Alaska and talk to strangers and stand in the middle 910 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 2: of an empty town and look around and go I'm alone. 911 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 2: Do shit like that. Do things like that instead of 912 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: thinking about your friend that want text your back. 913 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to do that. And two of the 914 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 3: people from the seven they're still like they still like, 915 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 3: haven't been weird about anything, okay, And I'm still kind 916 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 3: of close with them, Okay. They still are like trying 917 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 3: to salvage ship, and I'm like, come on, just like 918 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 3: I sed. 919 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 2: I still don't know what Seth, Seth, Seth, I still 920 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about. Are you trying to 921 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 2: get them to come with you? No? 922 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 3: No, no, so yes is like Seth Seth. 923 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: Seth, Seth, I swear on my seth you if you 924 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 2: like go ahead and try go ahead and ask them 925 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 2: if they want to come with you. You know what, Seth, 926 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 2: you know what, seth fucking complete Go and tell them 927 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: they can come with you if they want. Okay, that'll 928 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 2: make your just to make your fucking life a thousand 929 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 2: times easier. I swear my life. Please trust me. If 930 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: you I don't know what your life is like, if 931 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: like how you're gonna get, like what your means are 932 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 2: to get to Alaska. But if you have the means, 933 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 2: you have the ability to go, please please please please go, 934 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: Please go and tell them that if they want to 935 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 2: come with you they can, and then leave. 936 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 3: It at that. 937 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 2: Please do that, okay, Like at I like, just go, 938 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 2: go go alone, get into weird shit. Be if you go, 939 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 2: when you're alone and it's snowy and it's cold, just 940 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 2: feel that, you know, like, please just go. Just go 941 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 2: and tell them you're going and they can come with 942 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 2: you if they want. Because if you're gonna spend you 943 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 2: just want to, like to just to to tether your 944 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 2: growth as a human being to these people because you 945 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 2: need them is a is a real mistake to make. 946 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 2: It's a natural mistake of because that gues that's how 947 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: you've been living your life this whole time. In high school, 948 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 2: you're around a lot of people, but just just go, please, 949 00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: just go. 950 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have this like underlying though, like once or 951 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 3: like my through my twenties, I just have this like 952 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 3: these two friends that we have like a like a 953 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 3: Harold and Kumar type relationships though, and Loki, I got 954 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 3: the that's why I want them to come with, because 955 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 3: like I don't want to have to try to socialize, 956 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 3: to try to meet more people why besides the two, 957 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 3: Because it's it's too much effort. 958 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm so. Can I tell you can? 959 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 3: I can? 960 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 2: Ice? 961 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 3: Seth? 962 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: Seth, Seth, You're too I really mean this. You're too 963 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 2: young to be this tired. Well why are you so? 964 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 3: Why? 965 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 2: Why are you so? Why are you so tired? Seth? 966 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 3: No, it's just what I mean that. It's a sin said. 967 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 2: I mean that as a sincere question. Why do you 968 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 2: feel so tired right now? Eh? 969 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 3: I don't really feel tired. I just don't like people. Really, 970 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 3: they're not my I don't know, I don't like the 971 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 3: majority of people. I should put it like that. 972 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 2: Why again, how do you how do you know that? Uh? 973 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just that easy to assume that 974 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 3: they would be not my people because. 975 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 4: It's yes, yes, it is easier to assume. It's correct, 976 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 4: it's correct, it's it is easier to assume. But why 977 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 4: your life will be your life will be richer if 978 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 4: you do. 979 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 2: Not assume. 980 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 3: That's true, that's true. I'd be nice, like I I I. 981 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 2: I said, I sow. I just so badly. I so 982 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 2: badly because I think about, like I guess, like when 983 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 2: I was in high school, I think about, like, oh, 984 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 2: if I knew now all the things I did, you 985 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 2: can't you You physically like cannot be aware at that 986 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: age of all the things that you don't have to 987 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 2: fucking care about. And then you get older and you're like, 988 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 2: oh my god, I didn't have to care about any 989 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 2: of that. And I'm listening to you and I'm like, 990 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 2: there's just so many things that you don't even know 991 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 2: that you don't have to care about, and you can 992 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 2: just go to Alaska. 993 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well that's what I mean is like I don't 994 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 3: really think it's worth my time to socialize it because 995 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm doing other stuff. 996 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 2: No, it's no, no, it's not worth your time. It's 997 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: not worth your time to sit around going All my 998 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 2: friends are being weird and stuff. 999 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 3: Well, no, no, I don't complain. 1000 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 2: It's not worth there's time to No, it's nothing you 1001 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 2: can play. It's just it's not worth your time to 1002 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 2: dwell upon that. It's very worth your time to go 1003 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 2: out of your comfort zone and socialize with people and 1004 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 2: do things that you didn't want to do before. 1005 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm probably doing the Alaska thing. I'm just waiting 1006 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 3: for summer, all right, man. 1007 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 2: Well, seth, I if I can, I really feel if 1008 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 2: I can get through to you on anything, which I 1009 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 2: I really I just I really if you I don't 1010 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 2: know if you listen to my show or if you 1011 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 2: care about any of this stuff. It's funny, but just please. 1012 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 2: It's like genuinely tragic to me because I in like 1013 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 2: in college and in my early twenties, and like I 1014 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 2: feel like I went on these adventures and there they 1015 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 2: were really life transformational and it's like feels tragic to 1016 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: me to hear you say at at eighteen that you 1017 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 2: assume you're not going to like the majority of people. 1018 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 2: That's like tragic to hear. And I really just hope 1019 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 2: that you, yeah, I hope that you dub that you 1020 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 2: reanalyze that mindset and at least it's okay if you 1021 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 2: if you go put yourself out there when you try 1022 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 2: a little bit and you just decide you're an introvert 1023 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 2: and you don't want to do it, but give it. 1024 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 2: Let allow yourself to go out and collect some fucking data. 1025 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 3: You know. 1026 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I do. 1027 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 3: I do get what you're saying where it's like I 1028 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,879 Speaker 3: should keep that open mindset of people. 1029 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: I do. 1030 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 3: But it's just like I do always just have that 1031 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 3: assumption that like I should say that I don't get 1032 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 3: disappointed when people are shitty. I should say okay, more 1033 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 3: like I'm always expecting, not not expecting it. 1034 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,280 Speaker 2: Just yeah, are you gonna go ahead? Go ahead? 1035 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go do something, all right, crazy, 1036 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 3: I hope. The other thing is the two friends, like 1037 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 3: how I want to have them go. That's the thing 1038 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 3: is they're kind of lazy and they don't really want 1039 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 3: to do anything. 1040 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 2: Don't fucking wait for them, set I know. 1041 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 3: It would be nice if they game. I'm gonna try 1042 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 3: to convince Seth. 1043 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm Seth. I'm actually going to kill you right now 1044 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 2: with how badly I want you to go to No, no, no. 1045 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 3: No, I'm still going I'm still going on. 1046 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna try to convince them, don't be an 1047 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,439 Speaker 5: interest that they come, but I se without them, Seth, 1048 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 5: can I can you? 1049 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 2: Can you do me a fake? Can you do me 1050 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 2: a favor? Where in Alaska you to go? 1051 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if I'm specifically going 1052 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 3: to do something like that, Probably just like an internship 1053 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 3: over the summer, somewhere not here? 1054 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 2: Where do you want to Seth, Seth, do me a favor. 1055 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 2: Whatever energy you were going to spend into convincing your 1056 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,280 Speaker 2: lazy friends to come with you, put all that energy 1057 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: into researching places that you would love to fucking go 1058 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 2: to and things that you can do in those places. 1059 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I will do that. 1060 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 2: Do that instead of trying to convince your friends to 1061 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 2: do something that that that they don't want to do, 1062 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,959 Speaker 2: which is kind of what I'm. 1063 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,280 Speaker 3: Have you been a Montana. 1064 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 2: Montana is one of the states I've never been to, 1065 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 2: but I've been to states around it, and be beautiful. 1066 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful part of the country to w beautiful. 1067 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 3: It's even it's even prettier than why I'm like you 1068 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 3: should go. 1069 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 2: Do you live in Montana? 1070 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 3: It's very green? I do not. 1071 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 2: Do you have you ever been? 1072 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 1: I have? 1073 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:12,879 Speaker 3: Yes. 1074 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 2: Was this conversation helpful? Did you understand or anything that 1075 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 2: I did? 1076 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 1: I did? 1077 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 3: It was helpful. Okay, good, it was helpful. 1078 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 2: Are you all right? 1079 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1080 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 2: All right? Is there anything else you want to say 1081 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go? Uh? 1082 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 3: I don't think so, though. 1083 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'll see around the universe. Seth. 1084 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,320 Speaker 3: All right, let's see it. 1085 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 4: M hm. 1086 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 2: Oh man. 1087 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1088 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 2: Really, I felt like I get it. I get it. No, 1089 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 2: when you're just when you're in high school and everyone 1090 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 2: is being like weird and stuff, it's it's intense, it's crazy. 1091 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 2: But I'm trying to give I was really trying to 1092 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 2: give him my like twenty seven year old mindset on 1093 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 2: what it was like being like in high school. And 1094 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 2: because I wanted I would go back. I wouldn't go back. 1095 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 2: You physically can't. You can't understand how little that shit 1096 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 2: matters when you're in it, because it matters a lot 1097 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 2: when you're in it. Honestly, I could probably say the 1098 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,959 Speaker 2: fucking same about whatever problems I have right now. Here's 1099 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 2: you know what's actually you know what? I just cut 1100 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 2: you know what. Here's the thing. All the problems I 1101 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 2: have right now are probably just as stupid as the 1102 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 2: ones I had in high school. And even when like 1103 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 2: I get diagnosed with cancer and I'm about to die, 1104 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: which is what happens to all of us, Like when 1105 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, even if I get lucky and 1106 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm like eighty and I'm about to die and I 1107 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 2: have cancer, even that is like not even that won't 1108 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 2: matter once I've been dead for you know, thousands of years. 1109 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 2: So I guess all of life's problems are similarly as 1110 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 2: stupid as the problems that we had in high school, 1111 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 2: if you just if you just because I feel like 1112 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm just looking back at ten years ago, and I'm like, oh, 1113 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 2: those problems were all stupid. They didn't because they don't 1114 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 2: matter to me anymore. But when I'm thirty seven, I'll 1115 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,919 Speaker 2: probably look back, Yeah, my problems from ten years ago 1116 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: and go, those were stupid that I don't know why 1117 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 2: I was freaking out about any of that. And I'll 1118 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 2: just keep doing that every ten years and then I'll die, 1119 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 2: and then you know, in a thousand years, none of 1120 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 2: the things that I ever mattered about my life will leave. 1121 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 2: Those will all be every grand problem or it's even 1122 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 2: like dark, serious stuff will have mattered just as much 1123 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 2: as my as my friends in high school having been 1124 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 2: like kind of weird, you know, Okay, maybe that's everything. 1125 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I don't I think I don't know. I'm 1126 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 2: only I'm not I'm only saying this because he comforts 1127 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 2: me to think about that. Oh, everything is just as 1128 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 2: stupid as the things that bothered me in high school. 1129 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 2: Because here's the thing. Even like people who lived a 1130 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 2: thousand years ago had really horrible people who lived a 1131 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 2: couple hundred years ago had really horrible problems. They got 1132 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 2: horrible diseases, and their children would get uh, what's the 1133 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 2: diarrhea thing that they that kids would get in the 1134 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 2: Oregon Trail. Close it starts with the claw, but they 1135 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 2: would get it and they would die. And even and 1136 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 2: now that it's now that it's like hundreds of years later, 1137 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 2: even that kind of matters just as much as like 1138 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 2: your friend, like something that happened in high school, the 1139 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: Oregon Trail and everything that happened on it, I guess 1140 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 2: matters as much is everything that happened in high school. 1141 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 2: Kind of is what I think I'm trying to say. Yeah, Okay, 1142 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 2: I feel I feel like I feel like I expressed 1143 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 2: to this thought adequately, and I'm going to stop talking now. 1144 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 2: Goes on the line, making your phone calls every night. 1145 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 2: The reacon goes to his i's teaching your loud in 1146 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 2: the mean of your life that he is not really 1147 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 2: an expert.