1 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: All right, welcome man. Late Kick is live. It is 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: Sunday night. It is April twenty sixth, the year of 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: Our Lord, twenty twenty. We are so so so jam 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: packed tonight. We're gonna waste no time. We've got the 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Bulls documentary coming on in right at an hour from now. 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: If you're watching the live show, please hit the thumb 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: up button, get us over fifty and get us trending 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: in the YouTube live section. I've got news about the 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: podcast that I have promised was coming at the end 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: of the show, so stay tuned for that. And I've 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: also got several things to touch on tonight. A great, 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: great piece by our own Bud Elliott. I'm actually gonna 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: lead the show kind of catapulting off, for lack of 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: a better term, of a piece that he put out 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: about the G five, and I want to kind of 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: juxtapose it to the arguments made about including the G 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: five and the College Football Playoff recruiting against the SEC 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: negative recruiting. It's the SEC, especially in lieu of the 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: draft results that we just saw. That's something Kirby Smart's 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: been talking about. I'm going to talk about it too. 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: Jake from this perception amongst some that Jake From fell. 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: See these quotations if you're listening to the podcast, I'm 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: very sarcastically doing the air quotes fell in the draft. 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: Jake From didn't fall anywhere. He went right where he 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: was supposed to go. What does that mean though? About 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: the Georgia offense. I don't care about so much the 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: draft where Jake From went. Is he going to disappear 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: in Buffalo? Will he be a career backup? I'm not 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: talking about Jake From so much. Tonight. I am going 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: to talk about what that means in retrospect as it 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: relates to a lot of what was said about the 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Georgia offense this past year and moving forward. And I'm 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: also going to give you a little sneak peek about 34 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: what about two minutes Colin Worth of a conversation that 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: we had with Notre Dames Brian Kelly. We're going to 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: debut that Tuesday, but I'm going to play a little 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: sneak preview of it for you tonight. I had him 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: go pretty in depth on their recruiting blueprint. Pretty fascinating stuff. 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: I think you'll like it. All that and if we 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: have time about two or three Q and as so 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: let's get to it. Some very revealing numbers I think 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: we can all agree from this past weekend's NFL draft 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: as it relates to the continued dominance of the SEC 44 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: and Power five versus G five and all that. And 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to waste time making this a Southeastern 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: Conference infomercial. You guys all know those stats already. But 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do, and I tweeted this out 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: a couple of times over the weekend, including about an 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: hour or two before we went on air tonight, is 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about a really good article that 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: our own Bud Elliott put out. Now, as I was 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: watching the draft, we have our own Slack channels for 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: twenty four seven Sports, and Bud drops in there and 54 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: he says, way, do you guys see this stat that 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: I just uncovered. And he's doing a lot of work. 56 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: They're trying to pump out a lot of articles and whatnot, 57 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: trying to capitalize on draft traffic, which they did a 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: very good job of. And so he includes me in 59 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: the raw word document or pages document, whatever file is 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: you used, And so I got to see it before 61 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: he published it, and I said, man, I got to 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: lead the show with this. I think I tweeted it 63 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: out Friday. I mean, I'm leading late kick with this. 64 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: And so what I want to do is I want 65 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: to briefly reset my position so that we're all clear 66 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: on where I stand here. I do not believe in 67 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: college football playoff expansion for and no more. If there 68 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: is expansion, which even I have to admit to you, 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: seems inevitable. I don't have to be for it, but 70 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: it seems inevitable if there is expansion. I am not 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: for auto bids. I'm not for guaranteeing a Power five 72 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: conference champion a seat at the table. So I'm certainly 73 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: not in favor of guaranteeing any G five champion or 74 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: otherwise a seat at the table. I'll go a step further. 75 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't believe in spots for the G five period 76 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: at the college football playoff table. Now I'm going to 77 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: make the argument for that in just a second, because 78 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: it sounds really exclusionary and unfair in some ways. Maybe 79 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: it is. I just don't think it's my problem. I 80 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: think the G five should have its own separate playoff. 81 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: That is my stance. Okay, Now, the rebuttals. Anytime that 82 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: I've gone down this road, the rebubbals are always well, 83 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: if the G five had its own playoff, and I'm 84 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: just accumulating the ones I saw this weekend given to 85 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: me on Twitter, if the G five had its own playoff, 86 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be able to remain financially viable. Again, probably true. 87 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's true, actually, but let's say 88 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: it's true. Whose problem is that? Is it someone else's 89 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: job to subsidize you? I don't necessarily know that I 90 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: agree with that. The second rebuttal, how would they get 91 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: by without the cash infusion that they get from playing 92 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: in the New Year six games. I never said exclude 93 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: them from the New Year six games. I just said 94 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: exclude them from the college football playoff conversation. The G 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: five deserves to be in. They've proven. Now this is 96 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: the one. This is always the go to. This is 97 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: the one that I just want to rip the shreds. 98 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: The G five deserves to be in. And what is 99 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: the argument. Commonly, it's because they've proven they can play 100 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: with power five teams on the field any given day. 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: And guess what, You're dead on the money, right, and 102 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: guess what it doesn't matter. Number one, No, you have 103 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: not ever proven as a G five team that you 104 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: can play with the power five team in a playoff setting. 105 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: But number two, even if you did, Guys, that's never 106 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: been the argument. And this is where I want to 107 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: bring up Bud Elliott's piece. That's never been the argument, 108 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: at least from people that I'm in a camp with. 109 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: It's never been the argument that if Central Florida were 110 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: to get in a semi final matchup against Alabama, they 111 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't even be competitive. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't, 112 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: But that's never been my argument. I don't care about 113 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: what you can do in one game. I care about 114 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: the journey it takes to get there. I care about 115 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: the challenge that you have to go up against to 116 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: get there. So I want to bring in Bud Elliott's 117 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: piece here, and what he did was essentially he was 118 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: just accumulating. I'm going to start with a rolling four 119 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: year average, and this is really looking at first round 120 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: talent taken in the draft. Okay, there's no surprise here. 121 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any shocking stat A rolling four 122 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: year average, writes Bud, can help show the declining contribution 123 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: of the G five schools in the first round of 124 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, and sure enough, precipitously, the amount of 125 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: G five players being taken in the first round declines 126 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: every year. It was eighty seven percent of first rounders 127 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: being from Power five schools twenty eleven to twenty fourteen, 128 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen to twenty twenty. The latest four year period, 129 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: ninety two percent of players taken in the first round 130 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: are from Power five schools SEC ACC, Big ten, Big twelve, 131 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: PAC twelve. Now that's obvious, Okay, no one was going 132 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: to argue, Hey, most of the talent in the first 133 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: round is in the Power five. But then I want 134 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: to continue, and I want you to listen to this part, 135 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: specifically the talent flight to the Power five via conference expansion. 136 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Here's why I want you to listen to this because 137 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: another one of the rebuttals that I get a lot 138 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: of times is well, we're never going to be allowed 139 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: into this club. It's very exclusionary. They won't let us in. 140 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: And that's an interesting rebuttal because I ask how TCU 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: get in? Where'd West Virginia come from? How's Rutgers at 142 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: this table? Syracuse, Pittsburgh Louisville. How they get in here, 143 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: pause and let's continue. Bud rights. The numbers in the 144 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: first round do roughly match up with some of the 145 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: best G five teams joining Power five leagues through conference expansion, 146 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: and they are not being replaced by similar quality teams 147 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: in the G five ranks. Now, the teams he's talking 148 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: about here, Utah going to the PAC twelve TCU in 149 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: West Virginia joining the Big twelve, Pitt and Sarahcuse in 150 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: the ACC, Rutgers to a lesser degree in the Big ten, 151 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: and Louisville in twenty fourteen they started in the ACC. 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: So there's a perception first off, before I get to 153 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: my main point that I want to knock down here 154 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: like a pinata, the perception is, okay, maybe there's a gap, 155 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: But those G five teams any given year, they're closing 156 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: the gap. No, they're not. They're not at all. There 157 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: may be a blip on the radar screen like a 158 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Boise State or a UCF, and they are the exception 159 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: to the rule. But when it comes to the top 160 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: of the Power five closing it all, guys, the gap 161 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: is very much widening here. Now I get to more 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: of the money quotes. I'm not done talking about that 163 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: gap yet, but I want to get to the money 164 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: quotes because that GAP's far wider than it looks. I 165 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: want you to consider what I'm about to read and 166 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: tell me what this has to do with who should 167 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: make the playoff. So I'm going to tie the two together. 168 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Conference expansion among Power five teams has made the Group 169 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: of five weaker than ever before from a talent perspective. 170 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: And then Bud continues, and this was the hammer since 171 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: the final Power five expansion, which is a few years ago. 172 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: Let's start with the twenty fifteen draft. Every single Power 173 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: five conference has had more picks in the first round 174 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: than the rest of the Group of five combined. At 175 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: this point, we're not talking about the SEC. The SEC 176 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: has had sixty one first round picks since the twenty 177 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: fifteen draft. The ACC it's second with thirty three. But 178 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: let's not even talk about that. The Big Twelve has 179 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: been by far the lowest performing Power five conference when 180 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: it comes to sending kids in the first round. The 181 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: Big Twelve has only sent fifteen kids in the first 182 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: round since twenty fifteen. It's not a good number, is it. Well, 183 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: pause and let me read you this American Athletic Conference 184 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: six Mountain West four Conference USA two. The entire MAC 185 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: has sent one. Add them all up, and it still 186 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: does an equal the amount of teams that the worst 187 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: Power five conference has sent. And so what does all 188 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: this mean. Let's go back to the argument that I 189 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: said was given all the time. The argument that's given 190 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: all the time is, Okay, maybe the schedules aren't comparable, 191 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: and maybe UCF, for example, does have a lighter load 192 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: to bear in the regular season, but they've shown Boise 193 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: State has shown fill in the blank team any given 194 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: year has shown in the past if they're given the 195 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: opportunity on a neutral field, any one given Saturday or 196 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: whatever night they play the semi final games or big 197 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: time Bowl games, any given night, any given four quarter stretch, 198 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: they can compete and they can win. Sure, Cam, it's 199 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: never been the argument. I want you to think about 200 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: what it takes to get there, because the argument has 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: always been what are you exposed to? How many risks 202 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: does your schedule force you to take? How many violent 203 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: collisions does your schedule force you to take? How many 204 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: elite athletes, maybe even on teams that are going to 205 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: eventually go seven to five, but can batter your roster 206 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: in the process of you beating them? Are you forced 207 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: to compete against? Consider Texas A and M. This year, 208 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: Texas A and M, by my math, probably faced more 209 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: draft eligible players, players that were eventually going to be drafted. 210 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: They probably faced more this year alone than some of 211 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: these teams will face in a three decade stretch. They're 212 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: not even playing the same sport, is what I'm telling you. 213 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: Whatever you're capable of come season's end, in any four 214 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: quarter stretch is because you haven't been beaten into oblivion. 215 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: And that's always been the cry. The cry is not 216 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: what are you capable of in any one game? The 217 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: cry is Texas A and M. The reason I bring 218 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: them up is they weren't even on the verge of 219 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: being in the conversation this year. I think they lost 220 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: four or five games. Whatever the case was, Texas A 221 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: and M's probably favored against a minimum eleven games of 222 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Central Florida's schedule this year. What does it mean, Well, 223 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: it means that the caliber of team isn't so much 224 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 1: the variable here, it's the schedule. And you got to 225 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: ask yourself this too. You play teams down here that 226 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: have several future NFL players on their schedule. I'm not 227 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: just talking about in the SEC, and they may end 228 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: up going eight and four. Texas A and M is 229 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: a perfect example. Would you rather have played them? I 230 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: asked a coach off the record, of course, and this 231 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: I think would surprise a lot of you. Didn't surprise me. 232 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: I asked a coach, would you rather face? This was 233 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: a playoff caliber team. Coach was on would you rather 234 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: face Texas A and M? Or would your other face 235 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: Memphis this year? And the answer, without hesitation was Memphis 236 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: doesn't sound right, doesn't Memphis was a team that in 237 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: any given year as of late, is pushing for one 238 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: of those G five automatic bids. They're a double digit 239 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: win team. Texas A and M wasn't even the playoff conversation. 240 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: Here's what that coach knew that beat either one of 241 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: those teams, but in the process that lose two or 242 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: three guys playing against Texas A and M. Because Texas 243 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: A and M has a bunch of six four and 244 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: a half three hundred and fifteen pound guys that can 245 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: run sideline to sideline and the collisions even though they're 246 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: going to go seven and five, don't make your training 247 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: room any less full the following morning. You have to 248 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: pay the price when you play a Power five schedule 249 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: that you don't necessarily get asked to pay if you 250 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: play a G five schedule. That was tougher to say 251 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: than I thought it was going to be. So here's 252 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: the final synopsis that Bud put in this piece. I 253 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: thought it was really good to conclude with this. He 254 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: kind of asked, transfer portal, what's the transfer portal going 255 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: to do here? Because there are a lot of folks, 256 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: erroneously in my opinion, that believe now that the transfer 257 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: portal is this revolving door, and eventually it's thought to 258 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: be a matter of when, not if, legislation will be 259 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: passed that makes anyone eligible to transfer one time without 260 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: having to sit out blah blah blah. So a lot 261 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: of people would suggest to you, Okay, once we get 262 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: that legislation enacted, then all of a sudden, a lot 263 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: of players who don't start for Power five teams are 264 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: going to find their way to G five rosters. And 265 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: that's what's going to close the gap. I'm telling you 266 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: it's not. This is what Bud writes, becoming transfer portal 267 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: rule relaxations help to change the disparity in these numbers 268 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: a bit, perhaps, But it's also possible, and he's dead 269 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: on the money here, that the best of the players 270 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: from the G five might look to move up to 271 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: the Power five to finish their careers. It's going to 272 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: be a net loss for you at the G five level, 273 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: I am telling you, because for every kid who can't 274 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: crack the two deep, or maybe can't crack the starting 275 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: lineup at Clemson or Oklahoma State or Texas, you're going 276 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: to have kids that as freshmen wouldn't have made much 277 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: of an impact at Auburn, but as juniors and seniors, 278 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: maybe late developers, late bloomers athletically and physically, all of 279 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, they're playing at Tulsa and they walked in 280 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: the program at six foot, one hundred and seventy five pounds, 281 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, they're a six three, 282 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: two hundred and five pound receiver with sub four or 283 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: five speed, and all of a sudden, Auburn had want 284 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: that kid. Those kids will look to elevate to finish 285 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: their careers, and that's the way that that's going to 286 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: play out. I can almost promise you it's not going 287 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: to be this great, big leap in potential athleticism in 288 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: an edge that you didn't have previously, whereas now you 289 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: have it at the G five. The power five is 290 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: always going to win in that equation. So I thought 291 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: that was a really good piece by Bud. And it's 292 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: all numbers, it's all fact, it's all data, and you 293 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: can interpret it any way you want to. But every 294 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: argument that I get back in my face, that includes 295 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: needing to involve the G five in the playoff picture, 296 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: in the playoff table, is all based on feeling and emotion. 297 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: There is no data. There is no logic based argument 298 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: that's ever presented to me that makes any sense. It's all, well, 299 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: it's not nice to keep them out. It's not fair, 300 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's not right. Well, who writes the rule book? 301 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: Who decides that? And by the way, this table you 302 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: guys talk about, some of you talk about all the time, 303 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: where just the elites hang out and they don't ever 304 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: let anyone in their club, Well, that argument number one 305 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: is blown to smithereens. When you talk about UTAH or 306 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: TCU or West Virginia, these aren't programs in New York 307 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: or La or Miami, San Francisco. These aren't just medium 308 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: market overrides. You can come in here, maybe Rutgers, but 309 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: the other ones, the Morgantown, West Virginia TV market and 310 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: surrounding area. You're telling me that's why West Virginia got 311 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: invited to the club. What about Louisville? What about Utah? 312 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: Do they really need Salt Lake Cities TV viewing market 313 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: at the table in order to prop their coffers up 314 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: even more than they already are. No, there's a way 315 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: to get in here. But you got to understand something. 316 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: These folks who built the table, and these folks who 317 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: created this entire climate with in some cases tradition and 318 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: investment and just carrying a great deal emotionally about programs 319 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: that extend over one hundred years back. Sometimes, believe it 320 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: or not, they're very hesitant to watch a program that 321 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: just popped up out of nowhere in the last five 322 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: years and say, yeah, come on in, have an equal 323 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: seat at the table that we had to take seventy 324 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: five years to reserve ours at. That's not the way 325 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: that works. It's not the way that it would work 326 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: if the roles were reversed. Nor should it. So you 327 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: talk about fair, I could counter that argument. I could 328 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: counter if things were truly fair, they wouldn't even give 329 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: you the time of day. At least they're willing to 330 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: somewhat acknowledge that you belong here. But I'll tell you this, 331 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: as we move on, I've already spent too much time 332 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: on this. I will tell you this. We read two 333 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago where an anonymous athletic director at a G 334 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: five school sort of floated this eye idea of a 335 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: class action anti trust lawsuit if when there's a playoff expansion, 336 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: the Power five doesn't allow them to have an auto 337 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: bid into that dance. And see, that's all in a 338 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: kind of a vacuumed chamber, and it's not acknowledging that. 339 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: If you want to throw that anti trust language out there, 340 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: a lot of folks at this level are able to 341 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: counter with just peeling that NCAA sticker off their helmets 342 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: and walking away entirely. And there goes the wallet with them. 343 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: So careful, don't rock that boat too much, would be 344 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: my advice. All right, let's move on here. Kirby Smart 345 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: was very vocal this week. Kirby Smart, I believe, went 346 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: on the Paul Finebomb Show, and he was very vocal 347 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: about people negatively recruiting against the SEC. Now, I'm not 348 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: going to make you or waste your time. I'm not 349 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: going to waste your time at all trying to get 350 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: you to shed tears for the South Eastern Conference. I 351 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: am talking about this for a couple of minutes tonight 352 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: because I've witnessed it, and so I have some firsthand 353 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: knowledge here. Firstly, what Kirby Smart alleged on that show 354 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: this week, I can confidently tell you happens. I have 355 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: spoken to kids myself who have echoed the same to me. 356 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: This happens. What is this I'll tell you in just 357 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: a second. But I've heard it from players themselves. So 358 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't just echo Kirby Smart here. I'm telling you firsthand, 359 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: I've seen this happen. Here's what Kirby Smart said on 360 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: the Paul Fine Bombs Show this week. He's talking about 361 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: programs and negatively recruiting against the SEC. That's not the 362 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: way nflgms are looking at it. That's not the way 363 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: the NFL coaches are looking at it. This is Kirby 364 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: Smart talking. They want to take kids that want to 365 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: compete at the highest level. They want to go and 366 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: play in those big time matchups. And that's what kids want. 367 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: They want to go play in the biggest games, biggest pieces. 368 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: That is what they aspire to do. So for coach 369 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: in another conference to sell, hey, it might be an 370 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: easier path to come here and go this way, it 371 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: just speaks volumes. All right, what do we think about this? 372 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think. This works on some kids. 373 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't knock a kid for going anywhere he wants 374 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: to for his reasons. You go to Oregon, Southern col Georgia, Clemson. 375 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't care where you go. It's your lives. Even 376 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: if I did care, who cares that I care? It's 377 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: your decision, it's not mine. But I can tell you 378 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: that this works on some kids. There are some kids 379 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: who are drawn. Maybe they grew up in the South, 380 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: Maybe they want to go to an SEC program and 381 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: someone gets in their ear. Recruiting is all about planting seeds. 382 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: It is all about harvesting. Everyone's trying to plant their seeds, 383 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: and you hope that the top soil is not only fertile, 384 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: but it is a very advantageous situation for your seed 385 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: to grow. Specifically, and if you plant seeds in someone's 386 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: mind that you're going to get beat to death in 387 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: this conference, and hey, you can still compete for championships 388 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: here and maybe have a lot easier road. Sometimes that 389 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: manifests itself in you getting a really good player. Now, 390 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I can tell you this, The great programs don't have 391 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: to do this. The great ones get you to come 392 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: play for them because of them, the second tier types 393 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: and the Tier B and Tier CRE recruiters, in other words, 394 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: the ones that can't sell their program, then they have 395 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: to pull the other guy out of their bock pocket. 396 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: And if if I can't land you with our merit, 397 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: then I'm just going to negatively recruit against whoever it 398 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: is we're going up against and hope to win you 399 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: by default lesser of two evils here. I've never really 400 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: been a big fan of that approach. I've never really 401 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: been a big fan of coaches who feel the need 402 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: to have to use that approach, not mentioning anyone specifically 403 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: here for a very specific reason. Let's continue. I can 404 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: tell you this, and this is why I don't think 405 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: it bothers. It bothers Folks like Smart and Saban and 406 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: whoever else is feels like they've been affected by this. 407 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: It bothers them in a way. It's never fun to 408 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: lose a kid. But I can tell you this, I've 409 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: had coaches telling me in the long run, it benefits 410 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: us sometimes that this does happen. This is not even 411 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: exclusive to the SEC. Expand it out. You don't think 412 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: Clemson occasionally loses out on a kid because their depth 413 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: chart is used against them negatively. You don't think that Oklahoma, 414 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: or Ohio State or Penn State. You don't think they 415 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: ever occasionally lose out on a kid because someone comes 416 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: in and says you may not start there for a 417 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: little while. You know, they're different pitches that can be 418 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: used negatively against you. Kirby Smart's just telling you, hey, 419 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm in the SEC. We've had some coaches tell kids, boy, 420 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: it's a brutal path in the SEC. Why don't you 421 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: come here? You can still achieve the same thing, but 422 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: not risk injury as much. Just telling you there are 423 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: different ways to go about it. But ultimately ask yourself this. 424 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: If you're recruiting like Ohio State right now, for example, 425 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: just take Ryan Day, Ohio State, may Land the best 426 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: class of all time Ryan Day's recruiting and they're in 427 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: it for a kid. And let's say someone comes along, 428 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: maybe not necessarily in the top five conversation every year, 429 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: but you know, maybe a fringe Top twenty type program, 430 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: and they tell a kid, you could go to Ohio State, 431 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: but if you come here, you're virtually guaranteed to start. 432 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: If that appeals to a kid, and that is in 433 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: the seesaw battle, that is a recruitment, the straw that 434 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: tips the edge in your opponent's favor. Ultimately, sometimes it's 435 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: a natural filtration process. When you consider what it takes 436 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 1: to start at Ohio State, it takes sort of a 437 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: dog's mentality to start at Ohio State to ever crack 438 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: the too deep at a place like Columbus, Ohio, or 439 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa or Clemson, South Carolina. To ever start for those programs, 440 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: you got to be the best of the best on 441 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: planet Earth physically and mentally. Because there are a lot 442 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: of guys. These programs don't recruit them if they don't 443 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: have the physical tools that could eventually be molded into 444 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: elite physical skill. But if you're c plus from the 445 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: neck up, if you're soft, if you're constantly looking for 446 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: the shortcut. A lot of times these programs will tell 447 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: you if we lose out on you on the recruiting trail, 448 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to find out then than two 449 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: years into your tenure here when you're taking up a 450 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: roster spot and we know you're never going to be 451 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: able to contribute. So a lot of times these programs 452 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: lose these big time recruitments because those kinds of pitches, 453 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: and it ultimately ends up being a good thing for him. 454 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: But what does it say about your program if you 455 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: have to use those tactics, Because I'll tell you this, 456 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: I don't care. You run your program how you want to, 457 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: but you have to choose a lame because as sure 458 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: as I'm sitting here, the same folks who Kirby Smart's 459 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: talking about here, who I can tell you are out 460 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: there who pitch kids on the recruiting trail and say, 461 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: don't go there, man, the schedule's brutal, you risk injury. 462 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: Come here. It's not nearly as cannibalistic our schedules, not 463 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: nearly the grind that there is is. And you can 464 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: still make it to the NFL. You can play for 465 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: a national championship, you can either say that or at 466 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: the end of the year you can tout your strength 467 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: of schedule. You can't do both. You can't recruit against 468 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: SEC teams in the off season and say come here, 469 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: it's easier, and then go through the regular season, get 470 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: to playoff selection time and go on TV and try 471 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: and talk about how tough your schedule was. You can't 472 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: do both of those, and right now we may have 473 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: some people that are trying to do that the best 474 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: that I'll say you can't. Also, by the way, the 475 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: other thing that we get thrown at us a lot 476 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: SEC bias, And I told you last week we absolutely 477 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: have it on this show for a reason, same reason 478 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: those NFL general managers had SEC bias this last week, 479 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: same reason you have SEC bias. We get the TV 480 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: ratings every Monday morning, everyone's got it because they're the best. 481 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: That's it. Same reason I was biased for USC in 482 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, two thousand and three four because 483 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: they were the best at the time. My bias flows 484 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: where the elite action is so right now it's in 485 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: the SEC. But SEC bias nevertheless is thrown out all 486 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: the time. You can't claim SEC bias every weekend. But 487 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: then go out on the recruiting trail and tell kids 488 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: the SEC is two good man. You go down there. 489 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: You got to play good players every week. You got 490 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: to play good teams every week. You may never get 491 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: to play for a college football playoff spot or national championship. 492 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: Come here roads a lot easier. We'll still develop you. 493 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, YadA, YadA YadA, But you don't have 494 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: to take as much risk. Well, you are knocking down 495 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: your own SEC bias argument because you just portrayed it 496 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: right there in your recruiting pitch. Got to pick a 497 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: lame one way or the other. Can't have it both ways. Boy, 498 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: there was something that happened that got a lot of 499 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: you have been out of shape over NFL Draft weekend, 500 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: wasn't there A lot of folks love Jake From. I 501 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: don't have anything against Jake From. I was on the 502 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: field at Notre Dame Stadium when he had to an 503 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: impromptu fashion make his college debut. Remember, Jacob Easton got 504 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: hurt in Game one. So Jake from takes the field 505 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: in South Bend and leads Georgia to a very very 506 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: close victory on the road at Notre Dame. Think about 507 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: driving around. Sometimes driving around I live in Nashville right now, Sometimes, 508 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: especially these days, because there's nothing else to do. Sometimes 509 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: I'll just kind of drive out in the country during 510 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: the afternoon. I also have to learn my bearings around here, 511 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: so that's another reason I'm driving back the other day. 512 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: There's a detour. I can't see any construction going on. 513 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: It makes no sense to me. It took me twenty 514 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: minutes out of my way. I was not happy about 515 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: it at all, and I never found out what the 516 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: detour was for. I just have to assume that it 517 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: was valid. I have to assume that construction workers weren't 518 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: just trying to hamper my schedule. Ninety eight percent of 519 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: the time, you never find out the context of the detour. 520 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: Think about Georgia football this past year. And I want you, specifically, 521 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: speaking of Notre Dame, to think about this past year's 522 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: Notre Dame game. It was the return trip they went 523 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: to Notre Dame in twenty seventeen. Notre Dame comes to 524 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Athens in twenty nineteen. You Georgia fans remember this game, 525 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: of course you do. It was big, It was a 526 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: very memorable atmosphere. Do you guys remember what the talk 527 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: was afterwards. You won it. You didn't cover very close 528 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: game quote unquote, a lot closer than the experts thought 529 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: it was going to be. You got the win, but 530 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: there was an argument afterwards. And the argument and I 531 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: was very very passionate on the other side of most 532 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: of you. You argued that your play calling offensively in 533 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: this game was too conservative, and you argued that you 534 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: made things a lot harder on you than it needed 535 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: to be. And I argued on the other side, I said, 536 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: I think it was a brilliantly called and brilliantly handled 537 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: game because Kirby Smart and his staff know exactly what 538 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: they have, way better than most of you do, way 539 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: better than all of you do, let's be honest. And 540 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: they called the game in the manner that they thought 541 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: best suited them to win the game, and that's what 542 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: they did, and they won the game, and there was 543 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: never a whole lot of fear about Georgia not winning 544 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: that game. Well, what have we learned since then, Because 545 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: just like the dtour ninety eight percent of the time, 546 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: I said, you never find out the context. You never 547 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: find out why that dtour was there. I think there's 548 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: some context being provided to us right now. Did you 549 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: watch the NFL draft? Did you see Jake From fall 550 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: to the fifth round? And I use fall in a 551 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: very intentional manner. No one falls in the draft. They're 552 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: just drafted where they get drafted. It doesn't matter what 553 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: a magazine says. It doesn't matter how much the media 554 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: was in love with you before the season. Nothing you 555 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: say at SEC media days, unless you admit to having 556 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: a body in your trunk, is really going to impact 557 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: what happens in the draft. Several months later. You are 558 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: who you are as a player. The thing is, sometimes 559 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: people get fooled, and they get fooled by how charming 560 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: you are, how smart you are, how relatable you are, 561 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: how clean cut an image you have. None of these 562 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: are bad things. They just don't really have all that 563 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: much to do with where you're going to get drafted. 564 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: What do we know now, though maybe that we didn't know. 565 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: Let's say that Saturday in Athens. What we know is 566 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: you had an awesome home field atmosphere that night. You 567 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: had a very smart quarterback there in Jake From who 568 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: lacks elite physical traits. You had an elite defense on 569 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: the field. Your opponent in Notre Dame was not with 570 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: the ability to capitalize offensively. They were not going to 571 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: move up and down the field. They did not possess 572 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: explosive elements offensively. You had a sizeable overall roster advantage. 573 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: You add all that stuff up. Remember physical limitations is 574 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. How would you manage that game? All 575 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: those ingredients? Put him in the pot? Pour it out? 576 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: What gives you the best chance to win? Now we 577 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: get context. Now you know. Now you see what the 578 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: thirty two NFL general managers and their army of scouting 579 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: departments thought about Jake From none of them, not a 580 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: single one out of thirty two, viewed him as worth 581 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: any more than a fifth round selection. But preview magazines 582 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: told you that you had a first round caliber quarterback 583 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: on your roster, and so it just boggled your mind 584 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: how Georgia wouldn't be ultra aggressive in their passing game. 585 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart and James Coley, whom he never criticized as 586 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: much as you guys did, take note, looked at their 587 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: same roster, knowing it much better than you, and said, 588 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: the only way we're probably going to lose this game 589 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: is if we take risks through the air, and they didn't, 590 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: and they manage their roster in the best way that 591 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: gave them the best chance to win, and they did. 592 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: Now in retrospect, knowing what Jake from Wan lacked, you 593 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: see why Georgia handled things the way they did a 594 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: lot of times offensively this past year. That's in the past. 595 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: As we look forward, here's the biggest question for Georgia 596 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: can't change any of that is their change coming because 597 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: the best way, you know, you can marry two things here, 598 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: two things can be true. It could be true that 599 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: Kirby smart thought in twenty nineteen, given his ingredients, the 600 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: best way to go about things was a more conservative 601 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: offensive approach. Let's not lose it, let's game manage this 602 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: thing to steal a term from yesteryear, and let's win 603 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: on dominant defense, and let's be really sound and special teams, 604 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: and let's win the turnover battle. Maybe that is the 605 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: way that he wanted to go about it in twenty nineteen. 606 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that that's the most preferable way that 607 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: he'd love to go about it in the future. It's 608 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: just what he had at the time. So that's the 609 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: big question here, is that just who Kirby Smart is 610 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Nick THEYD used to say that about Nick Saban all 611 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: the time. Is that just Nick Saban? Is that his 612 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: MO does? He just want to get a quarterback that's 613 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: smart enough not lose them a game. And then they're 614 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: going to win by suffocating their opponent. They're just gonna, 615 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, wrap around their neck and slowly choke them 616 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: to death, and they're gonna lean on them with that 617 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: superior roster, and over four quarters, the Bama factor will 618 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: win out. Well, once upon a time, it was then 619 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it wasn't anymore. Who's to say 620 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart doesn't undergo the same philosophical evolution. Who's to 621 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: say Georgia's offense doesn't undergo the same kind of evolution. 622 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you this, Jamie Newman got a white 623 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: hot spotlight on him now, just like Monkin new offensive coordinator. 624 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: There white hot spotlight because there's a lot of talk. 625 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: You miss spring, so that was your install period, you 626 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: miss spring. There's a lot of talk and a lot 627 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: of expectation that even with a dominant defense again and 628 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: even with sound special teams play and a really good 629 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: roster advantage over ninety nine out of one hundred teams 630 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: they face. Even with all those elements still there, there's 631 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: an expectation that offensively, they're gonna overhaul a lot. So 632 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: we'll see. That's the big question with Georgia, and it's 633 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna be until finally toe meets this fall or whenever. Alrighty, 634 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: let's continue moving. I'll run a good pace right now, Colin, Okay, 635 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: we set a benchmark for what time we were gonna 636 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: get off the air. I'm not going to tell you 637 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: what it is. I just hope we hit it here. 638 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: We got an interview with Brian Kelly coming up Tuesday. 639 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to play the whole thing tonight, but 640 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: I talked about Notre Dame recruiting. Seems like about three 641 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: weeks four weeks ago, talked about how there's a Tier A. 642 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: I talked about this, Brian Kelly, you'll see this Tuesday. 643 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: There's a Tier A in college football, and there's a 644 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: Tier B. Tier A is Baan mcclems in Ohio State LSU. 645 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: You can put Georgia there if you're talking roster, if 646 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: you're talking championships, No, George is not there. But whatever 647 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: the case may be, Notre Dame's not in the first tier. 648 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 1: They are solidly I think in the second tier of teams. 649 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if you realize this. They've won double 650 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: digit games back to back to back years. They are 651 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: on as solid a foundation as they've been in two 652 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: or three decades. It just didn't feel that way because 653 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: I hadn't won a championship. So what I wanted to 654 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: do is I wanted to talk about recruiting with Brian Kelly. 655 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to dig a little bit deeper. And what 656 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: I did in this interview is I tried to get 657 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: him to recruit me. I tried to tried to get 658 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: the idea from him about how he goes about trying 659 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: to take kids out of the South. There's a map 660 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: they put it out every year after the NFL Draft. 661 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: Where did the kids who were drafted grow up? And 662 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: of course you've got a sprinkling up and down the 663 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: West coast, mainly in California. East Texas is loaded, but 664 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: Florida there's so many kids. The dots overlap each other. Georgia, Alabama, 665 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: the Carolinas, tide water in Virginia, and then some in 666 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: Ohio and the Midwest. No kid came out of Nebraska. 667 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: Just pray for Scott Frost every night before you guys 668 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: go to bed. But I wanted to know Brian Kelly academic. 669 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: You can call it a hurdle or an opportunity. They 670 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: got that to deal with. They got geography maybe working 671 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: against him. You got to recruit nationally. How do you 672 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: do it? So this is a couple of minutes of 673 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: our eventual about twenty minute long interview that's coming out 674 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: Tuesday with Brian Kelly, head coach at Notre Dame. ROLLI column. 675 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: If I'm a kid, I'm from Columbus, Georgia. So let's 676 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: say I'm a kid in the Deep South and the 677 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: golden helmet still resonates with me. I've heard the stories 678 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: about Notre Dame. I see you guys on NBC every 679 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: week every other week. But I really love home, and 680 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: I've never been away from home before. I would imagine 681 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: you deal with this a lot. Everyone recruits the South, 682 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: and you got to convince kids leave home. We're what's 683 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: best for you. Leave home. How difficult a process is that? 684 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: And how do you typically go about pitching a kid 685 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: and recruiting a kid and developing a relationship with a 686 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: kid who you know it's going to be tough to 687 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: pull from home. 688 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point, Josh. And so we have 689 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: to do that in every single state. We're taking the 690 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: best player generally from the state, from the local school, 691 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 2: right whether it's Georgia or Columbus in Ohio state or 692 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: on the West coast, whether it's USC or UCLA or Oregon. 693 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: So I think first and foremost it's being very, very 694 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: careful in our selection process, and that is somebody that 695 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 2: really recognizes and understands the value of what the degree 696 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: will do for them when they're done playing football. If 697 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: we're not careful in our selection process, will be spinning 698 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: our wheels. We'll be on the young man from Georgia 699 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 2: who just really is interested in playing college football working 700 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 2: towards a degree, whether he gets it or not. Okay, 701 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: that'll be fine, But I want to play in the NFL. 702 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: We need to get that guy who recognizes the value 703 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: of a Notre Dame degree is working hard to get 704 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: it in three and a half years so we can 705 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: then graduate to the NFL and then take that network 706 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: that Notre Dame has and apply it after he's done 707 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: with the NFL. So we've got to be very, very 708 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: careful in finding those people. 709 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you don't have to sign 710 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: one hundred kids a year. You're right at plus or 711 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: minus a couple twenty five a year. There's this, I 712 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: call it a misconception. I don't believe it. I was 713 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: talking to, for instance, Jeff Collins at Georgia Tech. They 714 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: deal with this same sort of I call a stigma 715 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: of man, you're academics. That's really a hindrance to your recruiting. 716 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: Maybe if you had to sign one hundred guys a 717 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: year it is. But I gotta believe, especially with the 718 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: brand you guys have, I got to believe there are 719 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: more than twenty five kids in America qualified to play 720 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: high level football and also qualified to accept the academic challenge, 721 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: which I would imagine is the way that you pitch 722 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: it is it does any you can't afford to look 723 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: at that is any kind of hindrance, can you? No? 724 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I mean I use the analogy. You know, 725 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: you can go to. 726 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: A recruiting station, right and you can sign up to 727 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: go to the army, or you can go over next 728 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: door where it says we want a few good men 729 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 2: that's the Marines, and so that tagline it's right, goes wow, 730 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 2: they want a few good men. 731 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: Maybe that's me. 732 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: So for us at Notre Dame, we're really pushing that. 733 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: It's like we're looking for somebody unique. Is that you 734 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 2: and so Georgia Tech, Duke Northwestern Stanford. You know, they're 735 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: all looking for that unique profile and that they are 736 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: out there. But you've got to dig, and you've got 737 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: to work at it, and you've got to find them. 738 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 2: And when you get that connection, you're in the hunt, 739 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: and then that's when the work is on. 740 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: I could talk recruiting with these people all day, literally 741 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: all day. So that full interview with Brian Kelly comes 742 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: out Tuesday morning. It is the Social Distance series that 743 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: we've been doing tomorrow. By the way, if you don't 744 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: want to wait until Tuesday, I got Jeff Collins from 745 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. I've been really high on them. I've been 746 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: pumping Georgia Tech for over a year now and a 747 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: lot of the reasons that I've been doing that will 748 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: be on full display in that interview with Jeff Collins 749 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: that'll be live tomorrow morning. So a big shout out 750 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: to that Georgia Tech staff. I'm telling you they are coming. 751 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you now. And there will be people 752 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: once Georgia Tech is an ACC contender and then they're 753 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: a serious challenger in the ACC and all of a 754 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: sudden that Draft Day special starts to include a lot 755 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: more Georgia Tech flavor and whatnot. There'll be people that 756 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: say no one saw this coming. False. Almost no one 757 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: will have seen it coming. We see it coming. But 758 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, that's a really really good We got him 759 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: to go really in depth on some stuff. We really 760 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: appreciate him making the time to join us too. So 761 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: that's that. Now let's wrap the show up because there's 762 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: some stuff that's happened today that I didn't have time 763 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: to put on the front end of the show. But 764 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: we really have to touch on this, and then I'm 765 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: gonna tell you about the podcast at the very end. 766 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: And I can tell you right now, I have our 767 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: trusted colleague who will remain nameless, who is aggregating the 768 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: best of the questions that you guys submit in the chat, 769 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: and we are doing the bonus podcast this week, and 770 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: I am taking directly from this chat and Twitter the 771 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: best questions and I'm going to hit as many of 772 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: them as I can in that podcast this because I 773 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: can't hit him all in the show. Let's hit the 774 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 1: ones that we can here or we can't hit here. 775 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: Impact jas starts us off here. What is the impact 776 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: of Dylan Brook's commitment to Tennessee Huge? In a word huge. 777 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: Colin and I were talking about this before the show. 778 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: How many of you know where Handley High School is? 779 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: How many of you know or have ever heard of Ronoke, Alabama? 780 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: That is where Dylan Brooks is from. He is a six', 781 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: five two hundred and twenty pound defensive end outside. LINEBACKER 782 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: i am from this part of the. Country i've got 783 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: family down there At my Uncle jimmy doesn't live too 784 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: far from. There shout out To Uncle jimmy On lake We. 785 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: Dowie there are not a lot Of tennessee flags that 786 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: fly In, Ronoke. Alabama this kid was thought to initially 787 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: be An alabama. LEAN i can tell you, internally The 788 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: alabama coaching staff really never had all that much confidence 789 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: they were going to land to. Him he was straight 790 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: with him the whole. TIME i saw Our Tim watts 791 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: Over onbama online Dot com talking about this earlier. Today 792 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: he was straight with. Him bama took one of the 793 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: most loaded outside linebacker and edge rusher classes ever last. 794 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: Year they are loaded to the brim and beyond at that. 795 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: Position it Was auburn that thought they were landing this. 796 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: Guy and not to say he signed, anything but he 797 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: has committed verbally to The university Of. Tennessee it is 798 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: a huge. Deal it. IS i cannot overstate how big it. 799 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: Is and here's. Why you remember last, year if you 800 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: were watching late kick at the, time we were doing 801 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: it independently down In, georgia AND i Said tennessee started off. 802 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: Terribly they lost To Georgia state at. Home they had 803 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: to finish. Strong they had a softer back half of the, 804 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: schedule and they had to finish, strong and they had 805 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: to win their bowl. GAME i placed a lot more 806 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: importance on that stuff With tennessee THAN i normally, do 807 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: and the reason is because they had to have something 808 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: they could. Sell you certainly can't sell the way they 809 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: started last. Year you certainly can't sell hot seat talk 810 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: around your head coaching. Staff but what you can sell 811 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: is if you get things together and then you finished, 812 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: strong and THEY i think they won seven games and 813 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: ended up winning seven, games you go out on the 814 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: recruiting trail and you can tell, Guys, okay look the 815 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: back half version of. Ten that's what we are moving. 816 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: Forward we're not talented enough yet. Though we can't compete 817 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: With georgia without guys like. You we can't compete Against 818 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: alabama without guys like. You it was a sellable end 819 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: to the, season and it was sellable on the recruiting. 820 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: Trail that's What i'm talking. About and the surest sign 821 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: that that's true is landing kids Like Dylan. Brooks, again 822 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: there is No, Roanoke alabama To, Knoxville tennessee. Pipeline there just. 823 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: Isn't but it didn't matter Because Jeremy prewitt high school 824 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: coaches In, alabama they may not Know tennessee a whole 825 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: heck of a, lot they Know Jeremy prewitt and he 826 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: got the job done. Here now he's got to get 827 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: the job done again and again and. Again and as 828 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: was pointed out to, me and it's very accurate On 829 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: twitter earlier, Today, yes eventually the results do have to. Follow, 830 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: eventually you do have to Beat, Florida, Alabama georgia because 831 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: eventually you can only sell a vision for so, long 832 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: it has to become. Reality this is a really really 833 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: promising first, step. Though cheryl is up. Next cheryl asked, 834 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: me how was The matthew McConaughey. Interview we had a 835 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: out thirty minutes With matthew. McConaughey i interviewed him the 836 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: other day in my, kitchen no. Less it was a 837 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: part of Our Social distance. Series you can go on 838 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: the twenty four seven YouTube, channel which you are on right, 839 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: now if you're watching and if you're, listening you can 840 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: very easily find it and you can find that. Interview, Awesome, cheryl. 841 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: INCREDIBLE a lot of folks are not who they are on. 842 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: Camera on, screen you meet a healthy mixture of all 843 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: kinds in this. Business matthew McConaughey is a guy who 844 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: is the characters he plays in his. Movies so, authentic so, 845 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: Incredible and the best part was we sat there and 846 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: chatted for about fifteen minutes before we ever hit. RECORD 847 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: i WISH i would, have in retrospect hit record on 848 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: some of that. Conversation i'll probably tell a more lengthy 849 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: version of that story one day when we have more. 850 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: Time but, really really, awesome really. Cool the third question 851 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: By joseph how far WILL lsu drop off losing all 852 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: this talent to the, draft Including Joe brady And DAVE. 853 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: A randa as. COACHES lsu just sent fourteen guys to 854 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: THE Nfl. Draft there are two schools of. Thought one, 855 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: is you guys better enjoy twenty nineteen because it was 856 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: a one hit wonder and it's not that you're gonna be. 857 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: Terrible it's not gonna that you're struggling to make a 858 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: bowl all of a, sudden but you know it'll be 859 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: back to nine win a YEAR. Lsu that's one school of. 860 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: Thought the other school of thought is the culture has 861 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: been rewritten there and it's, gonna of course be tough 862 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: to ever duplicate or come close to duplicating what they 863 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: just did for them or. Anybody you don't have to 864 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: duplicate WHAT lsu just did to win a. Championship you 865 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: got to duplicate that to maybe be in conversation for 866 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: the best of all time period in the SPORT. Lsu 867 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: here's WHAT i think you're looking. For you're looking for 868 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: What clemson did defensively this last. Year if you're finding 869 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: out whether you got a cultural overhaul, There if they 870 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: are there to, stay look and see if they're able 871 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: to pull off some of What clemson did last. Year 872 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: do you remember this time last year we were talking 873 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: about all these dudes That clemson had on campus, forever 874 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: all this defensive, linemen felt like a millillion of, them 875 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: and they were all going to THE Nfl. Draft think 876 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: about how many of them they were losing three in 877 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: like the first whatever picks in the first round of 878 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: THE Nfl. Draft there's no way that they can be 879 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: dominant defensively this. Year and then they were dominant defensively, 880 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: again not just against the bakery of cupcakes that is 881 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: the acc they got in the playoff and Against Ohio, 882 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: state after giving up an early lead at defense was 883 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: able to stiffen its neck a little bit and they 884 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: ended up coming from behind and. Winning and the point 885 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: is you're watching. IT i was watching, that and even 886 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: WITH lsu eventually beating them in The National Championship, GAME 887 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: i thought the Job Brent venables did last year with their, 888 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: defense all things, considered was one of the most incredible 889 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: Things i'd ever. Seen the reason is because the expectations weren't, 890 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: there because they lost the pieces the year. Before, WELL 891 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: lsu is losing a lot of pieces. Here that coaching 892 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: staff is to the level that maybe we think it. 893 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 1: Is they're able to replace the departures on the coaching, 894 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: staff and they're able to overcome cumulative lee the losses 895 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: on the. Roster and it may not be a twelve 896 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: wins season this, year but IF lsu wins ten games 897 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: this year and they're, challenging if they're a ten win 898 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: caliber team and they're Challenging alabama and they're challenging whoever 899 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: would be favored over, them that's a sign that they're 900 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: here to. Stay because you find me anyone, else take 901 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: the fourteen best players off anyone else's, roster and then 902 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: throw them right back in the meat. Grinder the next, 903 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: year you tell me how they. Do they're over under 904 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: win total is. NINE i think this upcoming, Year i'd 905 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: take the, over thinking all the, while what's more likely 906 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: ten wins or eight? Wins because IF i land on, 907 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: nine you just give me my money. Back i'd take 908 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: the over BECAUSE i think it's far more likely THAN 909 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: lsu exceeds expectations than it is that they all all 910 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden fall not back to the, pack but 911 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: behind the. Pack a couple of runs and go to eight. 912 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: WINS i don't think that's what's. HAPPENING i think a 913 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: lot of what they implemented last year is here to, 914 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: stay even if some of the players that executed what 915 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: they implemented have moved. On all, right podcast matters here 916 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: told you give me as many questions as you've. 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Com we have to 954 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: represent the seven oh, Six so we got to get 955 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 1: out of here because we have got The bulls documentary 956 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: coming on in about ten. Minutes so wherever you have, 957 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: been we appreciate you watching give us a light on 958 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: the way. Out we appreciate you being here For, colin For, 959 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 1: aaron for our podcast, guys and for everyone. Else I'm Josh. 960 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: Pate willpack at the same Time thursday. Night have a great. 961 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: Week