1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Ron and Aien each and every week, I think, well, 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: there'll be nothing to talk about on Saturday for the weekend, 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: depending upon where I do this show, and however comes out, 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: and I think to myself, what can I possibly say? 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: And then I go to work on Monday and I 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: get the collect information all week all something talk about 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the car Doctor and you end up pulling your hair 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: out over you know, just a badly, badly manufactured part, 9 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: and you get to go through all these tests and 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: find out I should have had a V eight um. 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: I wish I had a Welcome to the radio home 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: where car owners the world over too for their definitive 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. The 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 17 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: your calls at eight and now running. Some auto repairs 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: defy the law of physics. They do, They just they 19 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: don't always make sense. Hello and welcome. By the way, 20 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, I've sat here for thirty plus years, and 21 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: I've always told you it's a game of vengeance. It's 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: a matter of numbers two and two has to be four, 23 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: and it really does. But every once in a while 24 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: you get a week where yeah, it's just nothing makes 25 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: sense and it seems like PM pure magic fixes the 26 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: cars and you don't know why. It just when you 27 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: least expect it. As a mechanic, maybe as a consumer, 28 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: you find yourself in the twilight zone. Jeep was in 29 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: the shop two weeks ago. A half weeks ago, I 30 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: think I told you about. We talked about this twitter 31 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand mile ge branch Cherokee that needed a 32 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: water pump in the most of the cooling system. We 33 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: had rod issues and just complete failure at cooling system 34 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: level on a on a bunch of different problems. And 35 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: when I tell you, I painstakingly went through this vehicle 36 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: with It wasn't about making money on the job. It 37 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: was about revived this vehicle. And I elected to do 38 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: that of my own free will. I wanted to straighten 39 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: this vehicle out. The vehicle owner is a a younger 40 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: person because everybody's younger than me Um except for Tom, 41 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: and you know, she just she needed this vehicle to 42 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: get to work. It was very important to her as 43 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: a single woman trying to survive in today's economy. It 44 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: wasn't hey, you need to go buy a new vehicle. 45 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna revive this ten year old quarter million 46 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: mild truck Jeep that she was driving. And everything was 47 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: done wrong. Initially, the water pump when they had it 48 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: replaced about seven years ago, they used gray RTV silicone 49 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: to put it together, which you don't do. It's a 50 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: it's a precision formed gasket that will seal just fine 51 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: if you put it on dry. There's no need in 52 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: this application. You just don't need to do that. And 53 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: you know upper and lower radiator hoses, a thermostat, and 54 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: she wanted to go the extra distance. She wanted extreme longevity, 55 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: and in this case she opted for all original parts. 56 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: She wanted everything right out of jeep. She's a cheap person. 57 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I understand that. You know, everybody's got their preference. You know, 58 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: done replaced. Phil Burke Leak checked gone vehicle back on 59 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: the road. Fast forward the middle of this past week. 60 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: I get a phone call. So it's been two and 61 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: a half weeks and out of nowhere, their steam coming 62 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: out the front of the hood. You know, my heart sank. 63 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: It really did. I put a lot in that car? 64 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: I was trying to make that vehicle do what it 65 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: was supposed to do. And I was just like, why, 66 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, you go through all the right steps and 67 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: all the right motions and and you're just trying to 68 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: make it happen. Got the vehicle to the shop, we 69 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: determined that it was okay to drive. The cooling bottle 70 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: wasn't low. The radiator was just steaming, and they dropped 71 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: it off. I looked at it, and sure enough, on 72 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: the inside face of the radiator there was all pinkish 73 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: orange cooling. Christ are cooling for this vehicle is pinkish orange. 74 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: It was obviously some sort of a coolant leak. Now, 75 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't the water pump. It wasn't the hoses. I 76 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: could see it. They were factory band clamps, which have 77 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: you ever seen this style? You know, sometimes with a 78 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: gear style clamp, the clamp will loosen up after you 79 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: install it and it needs to be retweaked a couple 80 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: of days later, and I'll generally ask for them to 81 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: stop back, or I'll run the vehicle long enough in 82 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: the shop before I let it go, and you know, 83 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: just to make sure as the hose warms up and 84 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: settles in a little bit. You'll give that hose clamp 85 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a tweak. But this had band 86 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: clamps on it. One of the nice things about factory 87 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: band clamps is there's there's always tension on them. They're 88 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: always they adjust right as the hose softens up, settles 89 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: into its position, the clamp just snugs a little tighter 90 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: all by itself. It wasn't hoses, wasn't It wasn't effective 91 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: parts by any stretch of the imagination. The radio eater 92 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: just it just had a little bit of coolant spread 93 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: along the inside face. Now, the other problem here is 94 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: it interrupts the day you've got. You've got your day 95 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: scheduled out, and you're trying to get everybody else's cars 96 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: lined up. It's midweek. You're just about over the hump. 97 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: You're trying to fight the fight to get everybody back 98 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: their cars on Friday because everybody needs their vehicle. But 99 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: you've got this this twilight zone issue nagging at you 100 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: over there in bath Read and you're thinking about it. 101 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen, Jeep followed this jeep. It must have been 102 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: Jeep week. It had a misfire on cylinder too. I 103 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: did all the research I needed to do that I 104 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: normally would I really do. When I tell you guys, 105 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: I spend you know, thirty to forty five minutes on 106 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: some of these vehicles researching before I actually work on it. 107 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: I did. I knew where I wanted to go. It 108 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: was a misfire on cylinder to cylinder too, is the 109 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: first cylinder on the driver's side. You can't get to 110 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: anything without removing the upper intake planum. And the problem 111 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: wasn't present now, It wasn't there as a failure. It 112 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: was intermittent. It happened. Judging by the way Mode six 113 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: was telling me things, it looked like it had happened 114 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: about four or five days prior. So I'd have to 115 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: take the intake planum off the top intake planet, which 116 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: isn't terrible. And normally what I would do is I 117 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: would take the plan um off, and I will move 118 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: three components from that cylinder, the coil, the plug, and 119 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: the injector on these V six chryslers and put it 120 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: on the other side, the other side having more access, 121 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: and I will spread those components out across the other 122 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: three cylinders, put it back together and see where this 123 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: intermittent leads me where does the problem come back to. Now, 124 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: some people might have a problem with that ron the 125 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: coils have the highest rate of failure. They do. Coils 126 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: do have the highest rate of failure. I still got 127 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: to pull the plan on to get it off. It's 128 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: still an intermittent problem. Why don't you want to try 129 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: and spend the extra steps so you can be precise? 130 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I would. During the process of taking that intake manifold off, 131 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: I noticed a fuel smell. Gee, where's that coming from? 132 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: And why don't you know? At the end of the 133 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: fuel injector rail on this five year old sixty eight 134 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: thousand mile jeep, the end cap I put my finger 135 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: underneath it and a little swipe of fuel. Mhm. Called 136 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: up Chrysler, Hey, I've got this, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, 137 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I got this jeep. I you know. Oh yeah, you 138 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: need the four fuel rail. However, they're on back water. 139 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: There's none in the country and they won't be available 140 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: till March eleven. Now I've entered the parts twilight zone. 141 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: I've got one vehicle with no logic at all. I've 142 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: got another vehicle I can't get parts for. And that 143 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: isn't even the problem it's here for it's here for 144 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: a misfire issue which won't be caused by the leaking 145 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: or seeping fuel rail. What do you do? You know 146 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: there are moments where I think there there comes a 147 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: time where you have to really sit back and get 148 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: a grip, because you know, I always think of Lou Holtz. 149 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: Lou Holtz a really great book. I've been reading it 150 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: for thirty years now, I say because I reread it 151 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: at times at moments like this, And in one of 152 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: the chapters he talks about when and what wind stands for? 153 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: Wind stands for what's important now is an acronym, And 154 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: I always think of what Coach Holt says, because I 155 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: do go through moments where I think, what's important now? 156 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: What was important now? For that was I've got to 157 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: get this vehicle back to this person, and I've got 158 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: to come up with a reasonable explanation of what happened. 159 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: It isn't a question of proving ourselves. They know who 160 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: we are, they know what we do. She and her husband, 161 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: her I'm sorry, her father and her the daughter were 162 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: just as confused by it as we were. I washed 163 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: it all down, I went over hose clamps, I looked 164 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: at all the obvious. I drove it around the block, 165 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: out all the water, there was nothing else, went on 166 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: the radiator, let the vehicle sit outside and idle for 167 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: the better part of two hours. Drove it again, bone 168 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: dry into the day, bone dry, gave it back to her. 169 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: I still don't know what happened. I really don't. I 170 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: just said, wow, it was like we drove through the 171 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: twilight zone. Jeep. Well, upon further research, we found out 172 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: that it was a certified pre honed vehicle and fortunately 173 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: or unfortunately for the for the vehicle owner, it's under 174 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: warranty seven year, hundred thousand mile with Chrysler. So on 175 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: Monday there going to take it to one of the 176 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: local jeep dealers, and I know where they're going. The 177 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: last time we send somebody to this jeep dealer for 178 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: warranty work, they ended up spending nine I'm not quite sure. 179 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: Neither is the vehicle owner. They just felt so badgered 180 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: they had to get the heck out of there. And 181 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: I've I've warned her the vehicle owner, the jeep owner, 182 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: seventeen jeep owner. I've explained to her what may or 183 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: may not happen. I've explained to her how to go 184 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: about it. Will she be successful, will she actually get warranty? 185 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. She's in the twilight zone. Physics doesn't 186 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: count sometimes in order repair, and you have to remember that. 187 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: And I think the mark of a good technician isn't 188 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: necessarily the guy that can just fix the car. It's 189 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: fixed the problem, fixed the situation. And when you talk 190 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: to your mechanic or when you're the mechanic talking to 191 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: the customer, you have to get them to understand that 192 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: and vice versa. It's such an important part of the process. 193 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: And that's what makes a success, and that's what makes 194 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: a good repair, and that's what makes a good relationship 195 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: between consumer and vehicle owner. It's hard to find. I know, listen, 196 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: I experienced it for the better part of twenty months 197 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: trying to get forward to resolve my my my own 198 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: Ford Explorer. And I think I ever told you guys 199 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: the end of that story. I will maybe later on 200 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: this hour, but UM just suffice it to say, if 201 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: you think you're in the twilight zone, take a step 202 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: back and try and get out and come back to 203 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: reality and deal with the laws of physics. Zero nine 204 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: zero zero I'm Ronandy in the Car Doctor. I'll be 205 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: back right after this. Have what's more fun than listening 206 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: to Ron and Ay in the Car doctor and getting 207 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: that car fixed? Right? Eight five five five zero zero zero. 208 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: Give Ron a call? Now back to Ron. Hey, let's 209 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: let's get over to Alan, Maryland ninety nineiean centr and 210 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: some issues with the fuel pump. Al. Welcome to the 211 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? All? Right? Ron, 212 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: thanks to taking my call, long time listener, and I 213 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: really appreciate you automotive education you give all of us 214 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: every week. UM Nissan Center two hundred sixty eight thousand 215 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: miles just say, just broken in and at that kind 216 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: of mileage, you kind of wonder what's going to crap 217 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: out first? And apparently it turned out to be the 218 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: fuel pump. UM was running fine, all of a sudden, 219 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: just lost power, no misfiring, no bucking, just you couldn't 220 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: get it over twenty miles an hour. I tried to 221 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: nurse it home and it just petered out and died. 222 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: So got it home and it shut. Seemed like it 223 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: was the fuel pump. And with that kind of mileage, 224 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: the fuel pump has probably been living on borrow time anyhow, 225 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: UM I hate the thought of just changing parts, but 226 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: wasn't sure what I could test because obviously wouldn't start. 227 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: The only UM I thought about putting the fuel pressure 228 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: gauge on it, but the only spec I had was 229 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: for the engine running at idle, and there were two 230 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: different specs on that, so I wasn't sure what I 231 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: would get if I put a fuel pressure gauge on 232 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: it with the engine not running. So I decided, with 233 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: that kind of mileage, go ahead and change the fuel pump. 234 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: So I got the old fuel pump out and I'm 235 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: getting ready to get another one. And of course, as 236 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, there's all sorts of stuff in the aftermarket, 237 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: some of its garbage, some of it may be good. 238 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: You can't tell the difference. So UM, I wanted your 239 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: opinion as to any particular brands. I saw brand new 240 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,479 Speaker 1: Bosch that included the old ring and included the strainer. 241 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: UH for like under fifty bucks. That seemed like a 242 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: good deal. But I was just wondering what you thought 243 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: about various brands and just any other tips you might 244 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: have in putting it back together. This thing is a 245 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: little bit complicated in that the the fuel gage has 246 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: to be separated from the carriage that holds the pump. 247 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: They don't. They don't all come out as one piece. Right, 248 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: it's a fuel pump. It's a fuel pump module assembly 249 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: where all the pieces are self contained as one piece. 250 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: And of course it's at the bottom of the gas 251 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: tank and so with on gallons of gas and there 252 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: are lots of fun fishing around trying to get it out. 253 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: But I got it out, and um, and I'm just 254 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: wondering about your thoughts. I heard that you you ought 255 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: to change the old ring that steals the unit at 256 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: the top of the gas tank, that if you try 257 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: to use the old one and will never steal again. 258 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's true or not. And just 259 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, just your general idea and your thoughts on 260 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: any brands. My first thought, okay, in all fairness, my 261 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: first thought would be a call to the Nissan dealer. 262 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: Do they still make this pump? Is this pump still available? 263 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: And if they're currently available, really available in the aftermarket, right, 264 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: But if the dealer, if if Nissan still makes this, 265 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: do they make it as an assembly and does it 266 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: come with the fuel pump sending unit? And how much 267 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: is it? Right? You know? Okay, never never negotiate with yourself, 268 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: all right. You know, when I when I when I 269 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: talk to you guys about doing research, sometimes the research 270 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: is just a call to the parts department. How much 271 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: is the O E part? How much is the aftermarket part? 272 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: And and and and there are times I will find that 273 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: the aftermarket part is actually more than the original equipment part. Um. 274 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that will be the moment in 275 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: this case. I'm just saying I want to do my research. 276 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: I want to know what I'm selling, all right. From 277 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: my perspective. All right, Um, you know, set step one. 278 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: I've got a feeling that it probably won't be available 279 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: or it's gonna be ridiculously priced, and you're still gonna 280 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: end up having to take it all apart. So that 281 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: being said, I just like to throw that out there. Um, 282 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: I want to buy it. I want to buy a 283 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: name brand, you know. I want to buy a name brand, 284 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: and I want to buy something from someone that's gonna 285 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: back it up when and if there's a problem. All Right, 286 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, I want that guarantee on my back. I 287 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: want to know that I've got somebody watching over my shoulder. 288 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's no different. You ever walk into a 289 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: delicate test and you've never been to, or a restaurant 290 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: you've never eaten that, and you say, hey, what's good? Right? 291 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: And they tell you right, you know, or you know, 292 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: like we we go the suburban diner here in New Jersey, 293 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: and I'll say to Adele, the gentleman that always waits 294 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: on as Adele, do I want the swordfish tonight? And 295 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: I get the and I know that that means the 296 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: swordfish isn't good that night, or the you know, the 297 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: chef isn't so I you know, I did get something else. 298 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: So you know, in your situation, you know, do you 299 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: have a local parts house you deal with or can 300 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: you go online? Go go talk to the folks over 301 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: to Oiley Oto Parts, go to Oreley. We've got two units, 302 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: one fifty bucks quarter and what's the brands? One was 303 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: all the let me see here, um gosh new, um new. 304 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: Something wasn't not recognizable. It wasn't Bosch. One was I 305 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: think one was dense, so one may have been dense, 306 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: so a wall bro I think was one of them. 307 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: And one was dense, so and I did find online 308 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: a Bosch which I do trust. I've had good fun 309 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: with Bosch. Um, I haven't heard of the other brand, 310 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: but I can tell you Denso. Denso is an original 311 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: equipment manufacturer and supplier like Bosh. I would rate Denso 312 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: right up there with Bosh, if not maybe a little 313 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: bit better in my opinion. From what I've seen, Denso 314 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: is a great brand. We use it all the time. Um, 315 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: you know it is a It is a preferred brand 316 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: over other rotating electric as we say in the business. 317 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: For me in my shop, I like Denso. Denso is 318 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: probably the more expensive one. Um, I'm gonna guess you're 319 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: gonna tell me from O'realoto Parts. But you know, by 320 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: the same token, I would call O'realioto Parts up and say, hey, 321 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: I've got this nine center. I'm looking for this. What 322 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: can you tell me? You know, what can you tell me? Works? 323 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: What have you had the least amount of return on? Listen, 324 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: there's moments where I'm in the shop and I'm faced 325 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: with exact same situation and it just happens. I deal 326 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: with the parts house here in New Jersey by Wise 327 00:17:55,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: Auto Parts, Samuel Auto Parts, and Charles Charles is my guy, Charles, 328 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: What do I want here, What do you get the 329 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: least amount of return when I'm backed up against the 330 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: wall and I've got nothing else to pick from, And um, 331 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: you know that's what I will do. But that's where 332 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: I would go with this al and by all means, 333 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: change the O ring, change as many of the parts 334 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: as you can, because they're all over twenty years old 335 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: and they're all tough to get to. Hope that solves 336 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: it for you. And I appreciate the call, and I 337 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you listening all these years. I'm running any in 338 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, We're back right after this. Welcome back. 339 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: We're name the Car Doctor here at zero nine zero. 340 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: Next up, David, Mississippi oh three nissanic STERID Dave. Welcome 341 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes, yes, 342 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: trying to see if it was normal for the hands 343 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: to be booms of an inch out from end en 344 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: bop heads. They've got a twist. They've got a twist 345 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: to him. In other words, Yeah, I'm I got a 346 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: machine that he can machine them down. Is that safe? 347 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Or should I go with new hits? Well, let's let's 348 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: back up a second. Is this this is a three? Three? 349 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Is this normally aspirated or supercharged motor. It's it's normal aspiration. 350 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: Happened my daughter? She running hot? Did you run hot again? 351 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: Trying to get to her? Person? The ball game? Jackson? 352 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: How many? How many miles are on this Dave? Like? 353 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, I think the rules of You know, it's funny. 354 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: I opened the show talking about the rules of physics today, 355 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: and I think the rules of physics apply to engines 356 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: ever so much more. Um, you know, if she overheated 357 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: it and twisted the heads, is that what we're thinking happened? Well, 358 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: everything that was attached to the head got hot too, 359 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: So you know, why are you know, shouldn't we be 360 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: concerned with what kind of shape the bottom end is in? Also? Well, 361 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: the bottom there is no order any runs is great 362 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: except for the by passing the heads? Right? But I 363 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: mean the block It sounds good. I drove it, Um, 364 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: I got red new to the head, gast for everything. Well, 365 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: but but but who pulled the heads? You were the 366 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: machine shop or a mechanic Okay, I'm electrician slash mechanic okay. 367 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: And then so then if the heads are twisted ten 368 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: thousand's what makes you think the block isn't we put 369 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: a straight age on the block in this spot? Cast? 370 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: Stay all right? Yeah? No, I mean I know it's cast. 371 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: I would just you know, I listen, I'm I'm kind 372 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: of come from old school. I want to check it 373 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: for cracks. I want to check it for you know, 374 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: twist and warp and and everything else that could possibly happen. Um, 375 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: I think I would probably if it were me, because 376 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: of the age and the mileage. Um. New heads have 377 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: to be much more than remachining or machining the old ones. 378 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: What's the price difference? Talk about seven? Now? Would it 379 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: make more sense to have him machine the heads and 380 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: consider putting a little money into the bottom end if 381 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: you have a problem later on and working it that way. 382 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: My only issue with machining the heads is in an 383 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: overhead chain or even in in any overhead cam. This 384 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: is an overhead cam motor correct, Yeah yeah, um, you 385 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: know it was out of time when I got it right, 386 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: I grove it. But it had to put up that 387 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: ball to just laying her down on the inside of 388 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: the shop, you know, right. What does the machinists say 389 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: about machining the head affecting cam timing? Shouldn't affect that. 390 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: It's a little bit out of like just get the 391 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: plant again, take them Take the man at his word. 392 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: I don't think it will affect it either. But I 393 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: just want to make sure somebody's thinking about it, which 394 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: is why I bring it up. He's been doing it 395 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: for years. Mr Men machine job. You know I would 396 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: I would prefer now he's also going to go through 397 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: the heads and make sure, you know, valves and seats 398 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: and so forth. Ye yes, or he's going to die 399 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: ject them and everything. Yeah. Then I just don't know 400 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: that I would spend the extra seven eight dreds on 401 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: new heads. I'm just gonna try this quick fix it 402 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: don't work, I'm going to the creat right well, and 403 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: that's where I was gonna Yeah, That's that's where I 404 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: was going to take you after that. You know, we 405 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: want to try and get out of this as inexpensively 406 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: but safely as we can, and be prepared that at 407 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: some point we may end up having to go for 408 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, a fresh motor, a crate motor, et cetera. Um, 409 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think that's what I would 410 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: do if I were faced with it. It's coming up 411 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: on twenty years old. But you know the fact is 412 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: if you had to put a crate engine in it, 413 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know what's a crate engine for it? 414 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: Three grand, four grand, yes, something like it. Right. You 415 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: can't buy a vehicle right now, and if you could, 416 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: a replacement vehicle or replacement truck, anything is going to 417 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: be thirty to thirty five thousand if you can find one, 418 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: you know, and there's nothing suv. Yeah, um so because 419 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: she needs something safe to drive into work. She's working 420 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: now again going a year to know. I'm proud of her, 421 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: but she ain't a good way of going now. I 422 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: want to get that X now. You're a good dad, 423 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, listen, And I think I think the most 424 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: important thing here too is obviously looking at the rest 425 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: of the truck as far as you know, why did 426 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: it overheat? Did it over here because it failed a 427 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: radiator hose? Uh? You know, I'm not sure. But everything 428 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: got replaced. He's got a brand new radiator, brand new 429 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: order pump, brand new uh, that brand new radiator cap, everything, 430 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: brand new posesses everything, yeah, yeah, yeah, And she just 431 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: went watching the game, don't it with lower water? And 432 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: it could have just been that, right, Yeah, it could 433 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: have just been that. Now I think you're doing it right, thedave, 434 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: I really do, and I, like I said, I would 435 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: go with getting a machine and um, you know the 436 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: nice thing about using the local machine shop, a guy 437 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: that's got some tradition behind them. Now you've got somebody 438 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: to go back and talk to. Heaven forbid you have 439 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: a problem, you can sort of sort it out and 440 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, see where it goes. All right, sir, I 441 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: should appreciate your You're very welcome anytime I'm here. If 442 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: you need me, you'd be well, Thank you, thank you, sir. 443 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: Bye bye. Um. Yeah, listen, sometimes the decisions and the 444 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: and the and the comments and the questions are you know, 445 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's uh, it's it's a game of inches 446 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: and a game of dollars. Ever so much more in 447 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: this day and age. Um, we're seeing that more and 448 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: more so. Um, it is what it is. Let's do 449 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: a quick piece of email. This comes to us from 450 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: russ and North Carolina. Hey, Ron, I've got an older 451 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: Chevy S ten pickup truck manual transmission and I'm going 452 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: to due to service the transmission. And the funny thing 453 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: is they're telling me to put automatic transmission fluid in 454 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: my manual trans Does that make sense to you? Is 455 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: that what you would do? Or is there something else 456 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: available for me? Russ um, Well, you know what, Russ Yeah, 457 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: they do a lot of the older gms. Um, some 458 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: of them take manual transfer would some of them take 459 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: automatic trans fluid? I was never a fan of automatic 460 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: trans fluid in a manual transmission vehicle. Doesn't make sense 461 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: to me. Automatic transfluid is a hydraulic fluid. It's not 462 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: a lubricating fluid in the truest sense of the word. 463 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: There's some lubrication properties there, but not quite what an 464 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: oil would do. What I would like to see you 465 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: use in this situation is a product from the folks 466 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: over at Royal Purple. The folks at Royal Purple you 467 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: can find more information at Royal Purple dot com make 468 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: a product called synchro Max. Synchro Max. Synchro Max is 469 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: recommended for manual transmissions that specify an automatic transmission or 470 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: other light viscosity oil. It's actually designed for this application. 471 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: It's got lubricating properties in it. It's something that Royal 472 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: Purple has specifically formulated with proprietary editive technology and it 473 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: works really well. So get yourself out to the Royal 474 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Purple dot com website. Synchro Max is the product you're 475 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: looking for, and while you're there, take a look at 476 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: some of the other things that Royal Purple has as 477 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: well as their motor oils and some of the things 478 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: they have for their racing division as well. They make 479 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: a whole slew of products for vehicles, and they're very 480 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: innovative and very technology driven. So that's what I would do. 481 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: A five five five zero zero. I'll run on any 482 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 483 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back on any of the car Doctor. Let's let's 484 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: go over to Jack in Wisconsin. Return call er Jack, 485 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: welcome back. You're eighteen GMC canyon. What's going on with 486 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: this truck? Yeah? Well great, Ron, I appreciate you taking 487 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: my call. I have a eighteen canyon, uh, and I 488 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: have a misfire hat mean, when it's cold out, I'm 489 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: kind of lucky so I don't have I don't use 490 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: the vehicle most of the winter. But it started out 491 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: last fall a year ago where when it was below 492 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: thirty reeths outside that it would start, uh misfiring. And 493 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: I have the traction control and a stability light that 494 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: would pop up on the screen at that time. Uh. 495 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, I only had it happened a couple of 496 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: times last fall and then once in the springtime, uh, 497 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: where I'd sit there and let it warm up, shut 498 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: the engine off, and then she was fine. Well, when 499 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: it happened this this last fall here, I was up 500 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: deer hunting, uh, and I was close back home where 501 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: a buddy owns a shop, and I took it in 502 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: there and he scanned it and said, well, you gotta 503 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: a misfire happening in many different cylinders and it's jumping around. 504 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: He said, change his spark books. So I did that. 505 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: Why I did that, I also did the clean up 506 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: the intake valves since you have to take the plumb 507 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: them off. I did the clean up for the intake 508 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: valves and also the throttle body. Uh ran great after 509 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: they at but then as soon as we got another 510 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: cold day, it started misfiring again. Uh. So that obviously 511 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: didn't take care of the problem. On my next step 512 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: is I don't want to change all the coil the 513 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: coils out because of that we're talking. They're quite expensive 514 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: and uh, you have take the airplane them off to 515 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: get to three of them already? So what is my 516 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: best and next step to do? Did we talk about 517 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: this truck already? Jack, I'm just trying to get caught 518 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: up into that. Or I've heard this story from someone 519 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: else recently? We? Yeah, we never. I never talked to 520 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: you about this truck. I talked to you up like 521 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve, which you very you answered the 522 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: problem for me on that one. Absolutely it was a 523 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: GM scan problem. But not with this one. Okay, somebody else, 524 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: But you know, I can't. You know, It's like I 525 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night sometimes going 526 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: who do I talk to about that? And what was 527 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: the original? I just I lose tracks so much. I'm 528 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: starting I'm starting to see things a little bit. Um, 529 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: So let's do it like this, UM, get your hands 530 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: on GM bulletin. You got a pencil and piece of 531 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: paper one second eighteen n A one five eighteen n 532 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: A one one five. It's title it's gonna be titled 533 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: Cold Start Misfires. It's dated somewhere around October of eighteen. 534 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: This one came out early, all right, and it describes 535 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Did you get that number eighteen 536 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: and a one one five uh to one eight five 537 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: eighteen and a North America all right, uh, and it 538 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: fits a slew of vehicles. It It goes across a 539 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: lot of the three leader and three six V six 540 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: is some of the two eights. It goes right across 541 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Buy Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC and so on. And it's very common. Um. 542 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: And the way the description where it is, if I recall, 543 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: it's something about that customers may talk about a cold 544 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: start or during cold start, the angel will misfire and 545 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: have a rough idal. The mill will come on and 546 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: they'll get a P zero three hundred, which is misfires 547 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: across multiple multiple cylinders. All right, you're not gonna like 548 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: the answer. You're ready. The bulletin talks about possible engine 549 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: cylinder block perosity. In other words, the way the blocks 550 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: were cast. Oh boy, Um, the way the blocks were 551 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: cast will uh create an issue where it's going to 552 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: seep cool and under certain conditions into the cylinders and 553 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: create a misfire. So if that's the case, and the 554 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: bulletin goes on to point out how they want you to, 555 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: um do what you're doing. They want you to you know, 556 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: get it warm, pressurize the cooling system, look for cooling 557 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: inside the cylinders to see what you see, and uh, 558 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, kind of run from there, um you know. 559 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: And then cases you know, it's it's cylinder heads, some 560 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: cases it's engine block. But they cite all the specifics 561 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: and all the potential areas where you're gonna end up, 562 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: um in all likelihood. And I believe GM has extended this, 563 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: um you know, to some degree, but you're gonna end 564 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: up replacing the engine probably not what you want to hear. No, no, 565 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: not at all. Yeah, um, but that are they are 566 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: they looking at doing an extended warranty on I believe so, yes? 567 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: Or um um how many miles are on this? I 568 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: bet you you're out of warranty not But I'm just 569 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: a bearer of real bad news for you today. Um 570 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: uh yeah, Um listen, I think your argument has to be, um, 571 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, eighty one thousand miles. If this is the case, 572 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: if this is what's wrong with it, how how how 573 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: how can this happen at eighty one miles? Like that's 574 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: just that's just ridiculous, you know, that doesn't that doesn't 575 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: make any sense? Um. Uh you know I would um, 576 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I would I would, you know, listen, get your hands 577 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: on the bulletin first and let's see where we go 578 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: from there, and then we can uh kind of resolve 579 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: it after that, all right, sir, Okay, okay, let me 580 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: know what happens. Keep me posted, Yes, sir, yes, sir, 581 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm on an any of the Car Doctor. We're back 582 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 1: right after this talking back the Car Doctor. Mr Ray, 583 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: I haven't said a load to you the whole hour. Um, 584 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: how are things up there? And it's been a good thing. 585 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: I haven't had to talk to you. Um listen, did 586 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: your internet connection just drop? We should do a little 587 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: tech here on the show. Just uh, I saw your 588 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: face go away, but everything else has been fine. Yeah, 589 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: just you know, I lost I lost it here in 590 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: the studio against I think I'll be out. We'll be out. 591 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: We'll do be doing some troubleshooting after today's show. But 592 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, trouble shooting is what we do, right I listen, 593 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: I was I was thinking that we should start. We 594 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: should we should do like you know, world wrestling, right, 595 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: we become a wrestling due. I'd be like Ron the 596 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: Execution or a Nanian, you know, telling everybody that their 597 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: engine needs to be replaced at eighty thousand miles in 598 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: ruin their day, and you could go in and you know, 599 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: play with the technical side of the broadcast, and uh, 600 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: what kind of effect would we have on the world wrestling. 601 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: I hated to tell that guy that he needed an 602 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: engine at eighty one. You were just a baringer of 603 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: bad news. Yeah, like you know, like, oh my gosh. 604 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: But then again, you don't remember what GMC stands for. 605 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: You know, GMC stands for got a got a mechanic coming. Um, 606 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, he mad, He just you know, I just 607 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: every everything out of his mouth, you just poo know well, 608 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: and I wasn't trying to. I was trying to, you know, 609 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: And I like GMC, I really do. It's just that 610 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: you look at some of the mistakes that GM makes 611 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: and some of the things, and what gets me is, 612 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't understand how any car company can. You know, 613 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: we've only been making internal combustion engines for oh, I 614 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: don't know, a hundred and twenty years. It by now 615 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: we would have gotten past things like casting perosity issues 616 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: and incorrect assembly of parts. I just you're asking people 617 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: to actually do their job correctly. You know, we complain 618 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: about it all the time, but it doesn't make any sense. Um. 619 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: A lot of things don't make any sense. Listen a 620 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: couple of comments from this hour. I want to point out, UM, 621 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: and I hope Al doesn't take offense to this in Maryland, 622 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: but I hope it's the fuel pump on that Ninete 623 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: center because he never actually put the fuel pressure gauge 624 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: on it. UM. I think before me personally, and I 625 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: mentioned this in the call, we didn't have time. UM. 626 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: But thinking back on it, I think may before I 627 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: pulled the pump, pulled the tank, et cetera, I probably 628 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: would have put a gauge on it. Does it have 629 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: no fuel pressure or at least tapped in? Do I 630 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: have fuel? You know? Would it run if he splits 631 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: the little propane into the intake give it an alternate 632 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: fuel source? And you know, this could be something as 633 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: simple as a cracked intake boot. If it's a mass 634 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: airflow sensor chrome trymer what ninety centers looked like. It's 635 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: a cracked intake boot, it will have the same problem. 636 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: And for aide with the nissanic Sterra. I really appreciate 637 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: his trust in me, I really do, but i'd be 638 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: more curious, why did the engine overheat. That's a major 639 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: concern for me because I hope it's nothing that he 640 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: hasn't replaced, and I hope it works for him. I 641 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: really do. I just you know what, auto repairs A 642 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: step by step process, a game of inches. I'm not 643 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: an Adian, the car doctor reminding each and every one 644 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: of you till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, 645 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: They're priceless. See you