WEBVTT - Ghost : "An Inside Job" 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.080 We like to welcome everyone to another episode of Against 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:06.760 the Chronicles. I am Big Still and James McDonald. Today 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.560 we have a very very special guest. We have VJ. Brett, 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:13.520 a kid Goes who spend time in every prison from 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.520 Lon Park to Terminal Island. Goes did a total of 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.720 seventeen secretive calendars in the system. How are you doing today, Birth, 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.000 I'm doing I do on Man. You know what, any 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.040 day above ground is always a good day, like I 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.520 was just talking about, Man, So Um, you had something, 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.880 Man that was very interesting to me. Man, you know, 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.400 we had long conversation last week and I love your 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:38.040 spirit and everything. But explain this to me. Man, Man, 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.760 that is my history right there. You know I used 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.640 that right there, So um, these youngsters can see that, 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.360 Um that this this is real and um in the 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.440 choices and decisions that you make. Instead of that being 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.440 a college, I D, that's a penitentiary, I D right there, 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.360 and um that's my prison. I D card Um. I'm 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.200 not known as my first name on my last name. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.960 I'm known as nine two eight five seven dash old 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.679 one too and U. I use that so I never 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:11.600 forget where I've been. Wow, that's real. That's that's that's real. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.040 Talk's real, that's real. Yeah, it's real. Man. I knew 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.880 a lot of people like the glorified man, that whole experience, 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.360 and unfortunately we got way too much of that right now. Man, 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.720 you know, it's become like you know, that's become almost 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.440 like a writer of plastic job. I've even heard kids say, 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:27.920 you know, I can't wait till I go to the 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.240 pin when he was young, you know, and it's crazy, man, Yeah, 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:35.360 you know that's um, that's my fault. That's my fault 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:41.280 right there, because that's how it was glorified, you know, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.680 for you know, growing up in the streets as the 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.600 passive manhood, you know, catching that case, you know, going 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.960 to juvenile getting out, you know, being known as a rider. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.800 You feel what I'm saying. And so I'm desensitizing. I'm 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:01.720 desensitizing the judicial system for my nephews, for your nephews, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.440 for your sons. That's I'm desensitizing that right there. So 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.000 I'm just like it was desensitized for me, you know, 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.440 going getting the rest. It was a badge of honor. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.920 And but like I said before, you know, the homies 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.680 don't tell you or didn't tell me the ugly side 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:29.040 of that lifestyle you know of um, incomprehensible demoralization. And 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.320 when I say that, that means when you go to jail, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.080 the first thing you do is they're gonna strip search you. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.640 You know, body cavities, parts of my body. I ain't 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.600 never seen what I'm saying. And I gotta show that 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:47.720 to another person, another man before I hit it, before 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:52.760 I hit that block. So when I say that's that was, um, 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:57.760 part of my fault is now it's my duty and 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:04.160 my responsibility to desensitive eyes, my nephews, your nephews, your sons, 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:09.560 their sons, that that penitentiary, Um, that should have never happened. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:14.120 That should have never happened. Well, I mean I always 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:15.600 say if I know what I knew now, and I 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:22.280 wouldn't have did what I did. You feel the same way, UM, 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.440 Yes and no. And when I say yes and no, Um, James, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.480 is that UM, I was strong enough to handle that, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.120 you know, And I wouldn't change nothing because if that 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.800 didn't happen, I wouldn't be sitting with both of y'all 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:40.520 right now, you feel me right right? Well, I'm trying 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.880 to reach out to all these these young cats out 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.920 here that I think game banking is the way. UH 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:53.160 think they don't have another choice. Uh believe that all 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:59.800 the homies are the homies. Um, I'm I've been shaying, 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.520 it ain't that way. It ain't like that the homies 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.440 can change them. And you're in a second, who's gonna 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.360 be there for you when you go to prison? Which 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.480 I didn't have. None of my homies gared me in prison. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.880 I had a woman and a mother that you're garing me. Um. 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.040 So I'm trying to show them as well as my 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.000 nephews that you don't want to live the life that 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:27.279 I lived. I mean, and then you out there, you 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.960 you you're spreading your word and teaching these kids pretty 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.560 much the same thing. I mean. Do you feel like 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.360 you're reaching them? I am, Um, I feel like I 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:41.960 do reach them, especially um when I touched down, Um, 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.040 I said, you know, it's one thing I got to change. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.080 There's only one thing I got to change my whole life, 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.480 and that's that was everything. You know. So I used 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.680 my past as my greatest asset because when I go 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.840 to these high schools, it's a school, and um, it's 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.479 a probation school it's called Can I say, I can 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.240 say the name. It's called hell Crests Academies and the 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.360 Probation Schools Continuation in Inglewood and so um when I 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:11.080 pop up there, man, Um the principal, all that artwork 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.320 you saw, I started that for these kids. Um, the 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:19.279 principal saw. It's funny. Um, I'm at the bus stop. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.559 On me. I'm at the bus stop. I'm crow Shan. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.640 I'm crow Shan. You know, you know when you're in 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.880 the pan and stuff like that. You know, I'm gonna 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.039 keep one hunting when you're in the pan for me 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.919 to keep baby coming, you know, keep it running. You know, 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.960 Grandma tossed the trade back in the day. I took 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.760 it up, you know. So I'm in the pan, homie. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.279 You know, I'm just crocheting Teddy Bears blankets and stuff 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.520 like that. And I'll shoot it out, you know, to 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.400 the females so they can look look what God sent me, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.040 you know what I'm saying, And keep them coming, keep 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.560 them coming. So here I am, you know, um, twirling 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.560 verides and wireless signs and do what I'm doing at work. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:57.960 You know, I'm at the bus stop. I mean, I'm 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.680 just croche and reporter from l A sitting up and 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.360 looked at me. Now, remember when I got to pen 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.080 I was two hundred pounds with long braids in my hair, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.560 you know I was. I was heavier. He did and 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.280 and it just shocked the hell out of her. And 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.799 she pulled up and said, um, what are you doing? 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.200 And I said, um, I'm crocheting. So I teach kids 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:23.279 at this at school program. See now, if I was 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.960 if I didn't walk the path that I walked, I 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.480 wouldn't have got the attention of these youngsters who are 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:34.360 following my footsteps. So by me doing that and being 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:38.440 where I was in the penitentiary and at that bus stop, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.920 I got a chance to talk to these kids because 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.880 you know, of of um, of how it was, you 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.440 see what I'm saying. So I'm telling them like, how 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.279 would you you know, like I'm seventeen, I said, he 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.359 wasn't even born when I went to the penitentiary. I 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.640 did seventeen years? Really Like, yeah, what was it? Like? 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.040 It horrible? Horrible? You know what you mean? Horrible? You 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:09.000 smoke budding there, I said, smoke bud drank. I said, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.360 But that's that's the easy part. I said that the 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.360 horrid part is doing a seventeen year bit in a 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:20.720 violent environment where there is no running away, there is 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:25.080 no um, there is no I'm not I'm not a 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.160 part of that. Yes, you are a part of everything 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.800 that goes on in here. And I would teach these 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.960 kids some stuff which is called like basically a CBT. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.480 I didn't know what I was doing at the time, 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.640 but I'm using cognitive behavioral therapy tools which I knew 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.119 nothing about at the time. You see what I'm saying. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.680 So I'm teaching them how to crochet and and these 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.760 younsters man, you know pants saging, you know doing I said, 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:55.080 you come in my you come in this after school program. Um. 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.040 There was a mayor named Mayor Dorn. You've heard of 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.520 mayor doing in in in Inglewood. That dude gave me 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:07.559 accommodation of of appreciation from the Inglewood Unified School District 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.840 in the city of Inglewood because I started out with 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:15.600 these youngsters and these kids are crow shame. We started 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.960 out making knots at first, right like loops, and they 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.880 will call me eight a ghost ghost, Mr ghosts. I'm like, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.840 what's up. I'm like, yeah, um under it, like do 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.200 it better. Your your knots are not perfect. You did 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:33.559 what I'm saying, man, for real, this right here. What 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:39.440 happened was, um, it starts to grow. It's the APT 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.720 school program started to grow with boys and the girls, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:48.199 the little, the little hard headed, little knuckleheads. Well, um, 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.840 for my little my little Verizon wireless money, I would 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.800 go to the store and buy balls or yarn. You 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.719 did what I'm saying, and I'll just donate. So these 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.880 kids were taking them home and they're like, a, um, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.640 A ghost is my nots right. I'm like, yeah, teach 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.520 him it. Ghost is my notts? Right? Yeah, teach them. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.400 So I broke them off in groups of four and 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.200 gave them patterns how to make blankets and Teddy bears 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:17.679 and all this stuff. And and then I used the 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.319 past as my greatest asset. So therefore I would talk 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.480 about life, what kind of life you want to live? 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.840 Use the same thing that you were doing, calling my name? 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.840 Are my notts right? Are my stitches right? I told 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:35.400 these youngsters in this probation school, use the same principle 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:39.320 in your math class, your history class, your English class. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.680 If you don't understand it, raise your hand to ask 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.959 your teacher and all of a sudden, Man, it's just 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.880 it's just blew up. Man. We have like fifty two kids, 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.800 and and I would tell them, you know, this is 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.800 this is part of the life, you know, of how 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.760 you're gonna make your stitches. So I'll use that metaphorically, 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.360 you know. So that was my beginning right there. So 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.600 so did you know you was gonna be into that 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:06.320 in the penitential? Man? For real? For real, I'm gonna 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.360 keep you wandling. Um, I was gonna take this game 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.720 to the year two thousand, because that's all I knew. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.440 I ain't never had a job before, you know. Um, 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.679 And you know, and I'm gonna keep I'm like, I'm 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.960 gonna keep a gangster. I'm not gonna turn religious. I'm not. 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.680 That wasn't my thing, you know what I'm saying. Um, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.880 I had zero clue what I was gonna do when 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.199 I touched down, when I touched these tin toes down 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.640 at zero clue, Man, you know the funny part. But 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.880 it man, we see you now, man, how you are 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:40.520 which you evolved into being. Let's go back to the beginning. Man, 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.840 how did you get there? What happened? Like? How did 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:49.800 you wind up in the system. Man, Um, I blamed. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.520 I blamed God for one. I blame not having the 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:58.560 father there. Um, I blame living in the projects. I'm 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.599 looking for acceptance and all the wrong places. Remember the 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.280 song looking for Love and all the wrong places. Well, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.360 well that was me, you feel me? That was me. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.959 I um, you know, I gave my life, my will 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.559 to the care of my my neighborhood. You know, they 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.880 accepted me. I had companionship, acceptance and understanding, you know, 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.679 because that's what we all. I'm gonna say me, that's 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.360 what I was seeking. Acceptance, companionship, and understanding. So I 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.760 never liked my name, you know, my first name. So 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.480 the homies, my bigger homie, he was eighteen years old. 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.960 He started calling me Casper the ghosts because of my 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.280 light skin. So I took that persona on for the 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:39.960 rest of my you know, for the rest of my days. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:45.760 He taught me a trade back in night two and 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.680 you can sell this and make this. Remember at the 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.880 time I was mowing lines and ship like that, collecting cans. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.920 I mean I started doing that. Man eight four, I 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.319 bought me a six night in parlor parked on the 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.560 other side of the projects. I had front back on it. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.480 That was all we had. With the changed with the 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.560 change there will, I didn't have no permit, and um 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:09.959 I took off man and and it started going and 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.000 started going, you know, catching little cases of possession of salves, 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.160 cases going to LP you know, all the little juvenile 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.199 East Lake and all that spot, all the all them 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.680 stuff like that, and getting out of there being viewed 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.200 as a hero, you know, a rider, you know, ghost 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:29.160 as a rider. And then I, um, um, it was 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:33.040 too much competition in l A, and so I took 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.440 that work out of town. And UM kind of blew 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.040 up like a man smoking at the gas station and 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.680 knew nothing else. And that's what I that's what I did. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:48.040 So Um February six, I gave my um my homeboys. UM, 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.360 I gave him three of them, three bricks, gave him 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:58.400 three birds. Um they got arrested. They didn't take my direction. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.640 They got arrested by the fair and UM told them 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.240 but that I gave it to him on February six, 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:09.200 nineteen nine. And I make a long story short, Uh 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.400 I played guilty to a twenty year prison cents from 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:18.360 nineteen twenty one twenty two, twenty three twenty four, twenty five, six, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:24.080 twenty nine, thirty thirty one, thirty two, thirty three, four, 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.960 thirty five, thirty six. So basically, I spent half of 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:32.640 my life in the unnatural, violent but necessary environment, and 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:39.760 so um being angry as hell um because it goes 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.320 back to I'm not good enough. I was, I shouldn't 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:47.600 have been here. Um, all all these deeply ingrained negative 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.160 feelings and thoughts. So I'm all of my dude James 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.679 keeping gangster us all I know. Yeah, seventeen years, you've 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.800 got to I mean, you gotta surviving there, and you can. 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:01.199 You ain't gonna surviving there being quiet and sitting on 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:05.880 your bums. Um. That's what these kids today think going 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.760 to jail because they see a lot of cats coming home. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.880 It's a lot of ship that you gotta do it 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.360 you have to do in prison. Yes, you know what 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:19.680 I'm saying, Yes, and and and that's learning how to survive. 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.040 You know what I'm saying. You ain't going in there 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.440 begging and asking for handouts and can't pay them back. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.880 You had your hat brother t if you don't pay 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:32.760 it back. So you know, it ain't no kids in prison, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.240 it's some cats in prison, that's been in their little 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:39.600 motherfucking time. And like, boys, these little cats are, ain't 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.880 nobody gonna sunk me. Ain't nobody, boy, please, I didn't 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.480 see the best of the best. Get too. It's happened. 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.440 I'm just happening, you know, Like um, like the homies, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.040 you know when you run them with the car, you know, Um, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.480 I ran with a particular car, you know, And that 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.760 was a no no. You know, if one of the 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.960 homies you know, funk with the boys, he getting rolled up, 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.520 you did what I'm saying. But some homies did do it, 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.120 you know what I'm saying, So we kind of blackballed them. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.480 That's that was kind of the get down right there, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.480 you know. Um, it was kind of like a different generation. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.200 And um, and some of these um cats is unaffiliated, man, 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.840 especially like a lot of these junks is that I 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.760 see walking around the day. It's like you unaffiliated. You 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:27.400 were crash dum me you're gonna be a girl. They're 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.800 gonna be girls, man, And ain't nothing you could do 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.040 to save them because um, you know, like like some 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.000 of the cats that's been um that you know, the 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.280 homies don't funk with you did what I'm saying, because 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.520 you know, we ride, and this is what we do, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.680 you know, we that's what we do. Right. Um, these 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:47.280 unctions hitting that line getting off that bus, if they 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.080 are unaffiliated, um, you know they are out there hustling 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:55.080 for tennis shoe money, you know, um and and getting ship. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:16:00.000 So when they hit that line on me, it's like, Uh, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.080 one of the homies pushed up on him. What you need, 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.280 here you go, here you go, here goes some zoos 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.120 was way Williams, here you go, um, put him in, 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.720 put him in my cell and uh and you nothing 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.000 you could do about that, you know, and you won't 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:21.520 you here on your own, you know, So you're gonna ride. Um. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:26.560 And most of a lot of these youngsters nowadays thinking, um, 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.720 what kills me is test my gangster. That's what killed 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.920 because it's gonna get tested. It's gonna get tested, you know. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:39.960 And yeah, I remember when Um, I remember I had 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.720 the line one of the homies, Um, he was he's 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.560 old bully, He's he's old bully. You know. He wanted 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.840 to you know, he was with the car and everything, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.280 and um, you know, I'm soft spoken, I'm kind of quiet, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:59.160 you know, and he was talking that talking to that bullshit. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.840 You did what I'm saying, high yellow nigga, you know 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:07.000 what I'm saying, pretty motherfucker. And I used to box 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.600 for Archie Moore and I got hands you know, and 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.360 the home is kind of bigger and ship like that. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.000 But size don't mean nothing, you know. Take four pounds 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.400 of pressure knock him other funk out. And then we 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.480 was in the day room and um, he was on 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:25.360 one and and he's focused on me because I ain't. 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:30.720 I ain't no big motherfucker, you know, And call me 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.920 a bit, call me a bit in the day room 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.359 for all the homies. I gotta I gotta strike. You 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:42.520 ain't got I gotta strike, you know. So Um he cleared, 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.160 you know, watch for the CEO cleared and everything. Clear 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.119 that ship up and clear the day room. And we 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.800 you know, came from the shoulders. And as soon as 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.040 he put him up, I said, I'm gonnaknock this motherfucker out. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.760 As soon as he put them hands up, I said, oh, 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.600 I got him. I got him, and I got to 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:01.920 I got this bike mark on my arm right here. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:09.399 I show you this bit me, you know. So no, no, 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.640 he couldn't get close to me. Because I kept putting 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:18.639 my south Paul having frustrated. Yeah, so, um, the Homies 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.880 like it's done and all that, and um, um if 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.920 I don't stand up now, um it's over. You did 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.280 what I'm saying. And um, so he put um once 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:33.080 we locked, you know, I said this, he don't. He 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.919 don't want to get down. He's he's he want to wrestle. 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.600 So it's like the Homies like, ain't no wrestling. We 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.800 come from the shoulders. And after it was over, Um, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:44.680 it was nothing wrong with me, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:49.439 His mouth busted, no, busted, and he breathed hard and 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.800 we shook hands. So we shook hands. He grabbed me 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.320 and pulled me and bit me my arm right here. 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.920 So I got to mark on my arm right here. Yeah, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.440 did you hit him again? I hit him again. I 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.199 hit him with him plastic chairs and and he had 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.520 to go. He went to the whole, got out of 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.960 the whole about about thirty three days later and was 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.680 like number of respect. Yeah, you gotta have it, enough 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:20.280 time to think about it. Yeah yeah, So, um, it's 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.919 two things happen. If somebody else, James, you know what's 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.840 gonna happen. I'm about to stabbed this cat up. Worry 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.240 about one of these cats telling on me, because if 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.679 my home boys I grew up told on me for 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.919 three birds. If I stabbed this cat up in his dayroom, 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.800 that was him. They don't you know. So, Um, that's 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.160 some of the ship you gotta deal with. Chevin ten 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.280 can turn into light, yes, sir, he can. Two years 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.680 can turn into light. Yeah, and I'm gonna keep on 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.639 with you. I was scared because I know that's the 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.520 next level. Yeah, you know, I was like, man, you 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:00.800 know that's the next level on it's um is he gonna' 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:05.040 I gotta stabbed the homie. He's gonna stab me. It's 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:12.400 known to happen. Yeah, we had a big homie of Mars. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:17.639 The Jailer's used to bring all the homies that come 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.159 came in there and put him in his sell He 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.760 would want them in there and and he would rape them. 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.399 There's a lot of cats that's just walking the street 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.960 right now in the day been raped by by Smiley. 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.760 You know what I'm saying. Smiley Robinson and uh he 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.760 in the newspaper the Old Night and he proudly this ship. 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.359 He probably this ship he's and every time when of 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.679 the homies come in, he said, I'm getting some pussy 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:49.560 and in these in these cats. I just want these 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.800 little kids to understand. Like I tell my nephews, you know, 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.800 back in the days, if y'all were trying to hang 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.840 out and kick it like this, your motherfucker's wouldn't have 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.800 made it. You know what I'm saying. I got nephews 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.040 want to be g Q kind of like just cool 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:11.200 and red hair. Uh, nine jippers on their pains. Come 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.720 on that gang banging ship. Don't that ain't gang banging? 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.040 You know what I'm saying. You can't. You can't hold 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:20.119 two different identities. You gotta be either one way or 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:21.960 the other. You gotta be all the way in the car. 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:27.440 But doing seventeen years in prison, I mean that that 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:31.919 takes a toll on the mind, like spiritually, spiritually, UM, 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.280 I'm gonna tell you right now, I know I've been there. 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:41.560 I know I've been there because certainly my certain habits 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:49.760 you know sometimes um, sometimes they come out, you know, um, um, 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.479 but especially after like I've never been there. You think 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.200 what I'm saying. But I know I've been there because, 0:21:55.400 --> 0:22:00.600 like I said, some of my habits, they come out. Um, 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.119 you know, going um, getting the rest of going to 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:09.040 M d C. And uh in n You know you 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.320 hear all. You know, everybody wanted to be the street king. 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.119 Everybody wanted to be the street king. You know. I 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.399 know I did when I was a youngster. You know 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.040 because I'm hearing stories. I'm hearing these stories. You know, 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:20.840 this is what we're gonna do. Is what we're gonna do. 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.439 That's why I got into the game, you know, because 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:27.120 I wanted that acceptance, that companionship and understanding. You think 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.480 what I'm saying. That's why I joined. Um, I got 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:31.600 put on my hood, you know, because I wanted acceptance, 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:35.680 companionship and understanding. You feel me. Um, So I was accepted, 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.439 I had companionship and had an understanding. But when I 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.400 when I took that fall, you know, all that ship 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:42.840 came down, you know, because I was out there getting it. 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.160 I was getting it, you know, Um, the flashy ship 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.680 that wasn't That wasn't me. You know, my wealth is 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:54.679 hitting basically, you know what I'm saying. And um, and 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.960 one day it was all gone. One day it was 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:58.840 all gone. So I'm sitting up in the cell, man 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.080 with it, and they put this little short dude in 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.399 my cell. You know, I'm an m d C. I 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.000 was on six South and um they put this little 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.440 short duty to myself, and um so I know I 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.280 got the zoos with wam wham. So I go up 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.080 in there and they're like, man, you gotta sell it. 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:17.439 I'm like, fuck, you know, okay, not a problem, you know. 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.080 Um So I go up in there. I'm like, what's up? 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.600 I men, I'm Gohost. He was like, I'm Rick. It's 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.280 nice to meet you, Rick, you know, and it was 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:29.159 free way Rick, you know, and that's my homie today, 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.639 you know. Yeah, so, um well we'll be up in 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.879 the selle man and we sit back talking and you know, 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:39.960 and and you've only I've only I've only heard stories 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:43.879 about Freeway Ricky Ross, you know, you know the story 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:45.960 that you get the street lord. You see what I'm saying. 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.719 He's sleeping on the top bump and the weed, you know, 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:56.560 lays potato chips and and the homies like this is 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:58.880 not it? Because he called me by my first name, 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.120 like like wand this ain't it. And he's like, man, 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.320 read this to me. I'm like, what's that he's like 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:06.480 my core papers. I'm like, you can't read, like I 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.960 have a little trouble reading. And so I read all 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.919 this ship to him, you know, and we stayed in 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.800 that sale man lockdown and we'll talk and he was like, 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:19.639 this is not the life, you know, not the life 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:24.080 you answer, and um, yeah, Rick is a real good 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.159 friend of mine. He coming to my house and you 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:30.720 know we've been through the trenches together, you know. Yeah, 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:32.359 yeah he's out right now. I talked to Rick and 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.760 not too long ago. I'll tell some more about him. 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:41.520 But um, you know it's me um. And then um, 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:48.080 he we got sentenced in January three, Yeah, he got sentenced. 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:57.000 It was me, um, Harry Yo. You know, um, everybody 0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.560 heard about these people, but you know, I really don't know. Now, 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.120 want a bit, you know, when we're in the trenches, 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.040 I'm gonna tell you, man, that dude, that dude, Mike Man, 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.600 he's a solid cat. He was like, he was like, smooth, 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.080 I'm in turmoil. You did what I'm saying. I'm in turmol. 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:17.280 You know. I was nowhere close to to Rick or 0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:22.080 Mike or Tommy or any Mario. I wasn't a bowl, 0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:27.879 you know, I was nowhere close to them. You know. Um, 0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:31.320 I learned acceptance from these cats. You know Bo Bennett, 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.960 you know water That's what they called Waterhead and that 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.439 when we us play ping pong, and you know the 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.959 Cunningham brothers. I'm in contact with all these people today 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:44.680 because the things I've accomplished. They knew thee Shalte Man. 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:48.440 The cats were solid, but I saw serenity in these cats. 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.200 I'm a youngster, I'm the younger, I probably the youngest 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.800 one in there. But um, I would sit back and 0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:58.920 watch these cats. You know, before I knew whom Harry 0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.560 or Mike was, I didn't know who he was. You know, 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.280 I thought was another brother that was you know, stranged up. 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.080 You know. They was like, man, that's um, that's that's 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:14.880 Harry O. I'm like, that's sucking HARRYO. Like yeah, it 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.760 was all calm, you know, it was. It was just 0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.159 they had some kind of serenity inside of him. So 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:25.600 I was sitting back talking to him and um. After 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:32.119 we got sentenced on January three, Mike was wearing a 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.760 cream colored suit, sitting back reading his core papers with 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.960 suspenders on, with his little round glasses, with his legs 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.600 crossed and I came back down and Um, I came 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.960 back down and he's had how much time to give you? 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:49.840 I said, Mike, they gave me a dub. They gave 0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.800 me twenty. I said, how much they give you? And 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.119 he said, um, they gave me life. And I looked 0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:01.320 at him sitting back in his cream color suit with 0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:04.000 a suspender zone with his glass zon and he's sitting 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.760 back with his legs crossed, going over, going over his paperwork. 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.080 And I looked at him. I said, did you just 0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:11.920 say life? He's like, yeah, you know, they just gave 0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.639 me life. I said, they gave me twenty. And he 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:17.199 was like, should you be you'd be at by the 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:23.440 time your foldy. You ain't supposed to tell me that 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.560 you think what I'm saying? So, Um, you know Tommy 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:35.560 came down with life. Who's out now? He got out? Um? Rick, Um, 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.119 I'm in contact with you know, Bowl? Um not in 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.640 contact of Bowl. I heard he's home now. But um, 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:47.720 but these cats I learned surrender. If it wasn't was late, man, 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.040 they was. They were stretched out, you know, they were 0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.760 stretched out. But you would never know, you wouldn't you 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.920 would you would never know? Um? So um, I took. 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.359 I took what I learned, what I saw from because 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:04.159 they're they're unofficially being my mentors. Me and Rick, you know, 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:08.119 we we talked a lot, you know. Um. But but 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.160 Mike and all of them, you know, um, um, once 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:15.080 I found out who he was, I wasn't swinging, you know, 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.600 I wasn't he Mike, Mike, you know like good morning, 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.400 you know, like good morning. You don't have a seat 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.600 like yeah, talking ship like that, you know, And how 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.000 was you? He would asked me about my family? You know, 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.880 how's your family? Like they gonna you know, they're gonna 0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:30.879 be all right. That's how about your families? You know, 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:36.159 this conversation. But they were my unofficial mentors, you know, 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:42.040 and acceptance. You have to accept the ugly side of 0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.280 the game. And I couldn't well most and most of 0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:49.240 them came out here. Most of them came and seventeen. 0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.080 I hadn't seen to break a lot of cash down life. 0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.160 I didn't see a lot of cats come to that 0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.280 County jail with life in turn up. They sail just 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:03.360 just in disbelieve. Um, you ain't got nothing a looking 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.600 for it once you get life. But the way you're 0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:09.520 saying how they was they accepted it and fucking this 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.600 push let's do this. Knew we had knew they had 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:18.960 to do that time and you know most a month. Yeah, yeah, 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:20.960 a lot of people was a lot of people's hot 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:22.800 you know. Um there were some people that was on 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.680 our floor that got moved off the floor, you know, 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.400 because they were like they I guess they rethought it 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.120 like you know, um it was him, you know, so 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.240 they moved, they moved off our floor. But but all 0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:41.040 of us, um, you know, um, we we took it. 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.280 I learned acceptance from them. Another thing too on me 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.719 is when you hit that line, is that, um, this 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:51.520 is that gangster ship you know, um you know, um 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.520 we I'm gonna say me, I believed I was a 0:29:54.560 --> 0:30:02.040 gangster because a young gangster you know, Um I was, 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.840 I was acting. Uh, this is this is what I know. 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.479 You know, Um, if you ask me my you know, 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.920 was I gangster? I had gangster ways because I watched 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.120 the I watch you you know, I watch you you know, 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.360 I watch watch my uncles. You know, I watched watched 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:23.520 all of them. But it's just acceptance, companionship man. And 0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.800 but again when I did hit the line, the first 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.080 thing they want to see is that pre sentence report? 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:36.120 Is there a five K one? You know, was there 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:41.280 substantial assistance? You know? And you know I like say 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.760 it wasn't. On the yard right now like a homie. 0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.880 He goes, um bringing that paperwork, you know, bring the 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.840 paperwork up to the day room. Alright, but he going on. 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.719 You know, you guys will flip through my ship. You know, 0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.800 you go straight to the that's if you spoke on 0:30:55.880 --> 0:31:00.560 anybody else. Yeah, so they'll go to your please agreement. 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.600 I played guilty, right, you know there was no there 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:08.320 was nothing. You know, Um play guilty to a twenty 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:13.000 year prison sentence. He's good. You know. It's like we 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.320 need you to bring a song. So bring your paperwork 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:19.960 up to day room. Why because we asked, We told you, 0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.600 We told you to. If you don't bring that presentence 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.560 report to the day room, um, you're gonna get carried 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.800 out or we're gonna let you check in, and then 0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:31.880 the word gonna spread. You know what I'm saying. The 0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.360 word's gonna spread. You're gonna be treated like a bit 0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.400 to what your whole bit you did. What I'm saying, 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.600 so presentence report and then you know the bureau prisons 0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:42.920 changed all that. They wouldn't let you have it no 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.880 more because like ten years later, motherfucker's getting rolled up, 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:50.680 getting the head caved in because song So told them 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:55.200 song So, and we know you're coming, you know, um 0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:59.239 So that right, there was a lot of stuff, you know, 0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:05.960 you know well that that's pretty much jail. How ship, 0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:08.760 I mean, just because you're in jail. To me, you 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:13.840 ain't got no rules, and and just knowing that that's home, man, 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.640 motherfucker's they handle business like it's home. You know what 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.680 I'm saying. It's it's it's home away from home for 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:25.280 the time, Ben. But the way guys got down in prison, 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:30.120 it's totally different how cats interact out here, you know 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.680 what I'm saying. Yeah, just like you said, ain't no running, 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:38.160 They no hiding, you know, hiding. So to be amongst 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:41.600 us in this right here on this yard, we can 0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.200 bring that ship out here that she was. She was cracking. 0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.640 So we ain't got no funny business in there, no 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.760 funny niggers in there. We know we all ride us exactly. 0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.080 But I'm gonna tell you one hunter though, when you 0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.880 go back in that cell, when it's getting rich, like 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.040 these scars on my hand right here, that's from the 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:03.080 racial ride, you know, as from like I said, if 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.240 you were blood or a crip and you're from California 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.080 and you ride because we're gonna ride against so and so, 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.680 so and so, you know, and ain't no, um I 0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.400 gotta visit coming. No, ain't none of that. Um My 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.960 mama coming, No, she ain't coming. You're gonna be on 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.320 the front line. You You're gonna be on the yard. 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:26.840 You know what I'm saying. So, um, it's we had 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.840 ride and she was burning up. It was in Phoenix 0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.600 and it went down, you know, Um, it went down 0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:40.400 and it was wild. So a building called on fire 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:45.520 and the homies were inside the building. Man and um 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.480 and this right here we are busting them windows and 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:53.120 thick as bulletproof glass windows, taking them. Had to get 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.400 them out because the c os left. They locked him 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.200 in that building and they locked him in. They locked 0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.680 him in that building, and we gotta try to get 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:05.560 through this glass and so the doors it was stuck. Oh, 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.200 it was stuck. Oh, so the homies, so they were 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:12.160 trying to break the frame. I took one of them ashtrays, 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.400 you know, the concrete astrays, little round ones picked up. 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.880 I kept throwing against the window and then broke the 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.000 window and pulled the homies out. And that's when my 0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.680 hand cut this thing, and all of a sudden, the 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.480 whole fucking building just came down, you know. And um. 0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:33.040 But then again during this time, remember I still got 0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:37.400 fourteen years left to do there. There is no tomorrow. 0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:42.480 You know, we gotta get it in. You know, we 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.120 have we have to do this. But I ain't gonna 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.680 lie to you. I ain't gonna lie on me. Um. 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:53.720 I did say before UM, before I walked out that unit, 0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:58.799 I did believe in God, said God, please don't let 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.680 me kill nobody, and please don't let nobody kill me, right, 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.160 you know know, let me go back to one thing. Man. 0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.160 I don't think this is what these junctions realized. You 0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.280 caught your case, man, and lived through that like pretty 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.080 much went through hell, and you never got caught with nothing. 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.640 It was just these cats words that you sent. At 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:21.960 the time, they called conspiracy a forty one a UM 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.759 and a forty six. They called it a constructive possession. 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.680 I didn't fully have it in my possession, but I 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.719 had domaning in control over it because let me say 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:35.280 this for the people out there too, And I'm pretty 0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.640 sure we all got homeboys like that. How many homeboys 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.680 y'all got who went to jail for no reason because 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:47.320 somebody says some ship that wasn't true. Yeah, so somebody 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.319 right now could say I heard that James ghosts and 0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:53.680 still got birds up in that thing that they yet 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.800 and we can mess around to be sitting in the 0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:01.319 celle wondering what the hell happened? Hell happened? And you see, yeah, 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.000 that was it was. It was kind of crazy because 0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.680 the fact of the matter is is that how many 0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.000 nineteen year olds have that much money in the house. 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.240 And back then when the when when the Co Canadian 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.799 ship came out, man, it was it was big and 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:25.440 it was it was so many cats that reached that top. 0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:30.320 You know that the average hood nigger wouldn't getting that 0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.640 type of money or wouldn't getting it like that. That's 0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.040 where you had the the the big deep boys, you know, 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:41.480 like like Free Read that was had controller ship like 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.280 that and distributed and putting it out there like that. 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.360 Half of us didn't happen like that. So something that 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.480 was going to the fairs for half of birds and 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.600 selling ship to to motherfucker three or four times. Uh, 0:36:55.719 --> 0:37:00.719 your phone was being tapped easily, and nine times out 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.560 of tea. It was somebody in the hood that was 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:04.839 sucking with you and working with you and then doing 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.200 anything like that. But going to jail is going to 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:12.040 jail the time you're gonna do it. And like they 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.960 had my brother and in there, Hey, I got call 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:20.120 with a pistol. So they said the pistol was from 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:24.600 you talk. So now just because it's prison record, they're 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:26.960 trying to give forty years for the pistol and state 0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:32.000 Commerce Article one sex night Claus seventeen of the US Constitution. 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:36.359 That's what that is, his commerce clause forty years. So 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:40.400 I'm sitting there people and it's a cool ast. Uh. 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:45.000 The federal ship is totally different from state. And all 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.799 these people walked in this room. I don't like they're 0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:54.120 been a pick a jury just like that. He had 0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.480 a jury sitting right there and he ready to go 0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:00.759 in you know what I'm saying. So, and Alton case 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.919 was the only case they said ninety nine point nine 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:08.080 percent eight percent of conviction rate from from the federal 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.200 witch camps. So he went all the way. M hm. 0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:15.279 The police said that when he jumped out the car 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.799 and ran the person that was driving the car through 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.680 the pistol out, that's how they got there. So they 0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.640 ate the ship up. But he sat there for a 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.960 minute and uh, how did he how did he get it? 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.960 The lawyer that he had was was a cool lawyer, 0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.920 but he wind up beating it. And they said he 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:42.239 was the only only person in three years that that 0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:48.240 one a case at that time. About Man, it's crazy, Yeah, 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.759 it's crazy. So just watching how they program go and 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.319 opposed to you know, stay, they sit there and they 0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.920 do all these questions and ship and all that ship 0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.239 and then pick a jury and take maybe maybe two 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.239 weeks maybe a month to pick. Yeah, And I'll tell 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:05.840 you the crazy thing about it, Man, I got a 0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.360 brother in lawdis in the fives right now. He was 0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.040 supposed to be up five years ago and wound up 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.640 you know, little things happening to there and stuff where 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.879 he had defend himself or whatnot. Man. But just when 0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:19.799 you get to see the discovery papers at the end 0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:21.640 of the case, because when they came and got him, 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.960 he was messing with that math, right, and so you 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.399 just saw the whole assencion It was like a movie. 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.719 I saw his whole as Sencion and rides to where 0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.719 he first hooked up with these people. Right, he's doing 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.080 his thing. Then he had the five point on dating's right. 0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.400 Then he had the f one fifty on these you 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:40.919 know what I'm saying. Then he got the big house 0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.560 in Cerritos, the other one in Lakewood. Three or four 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.279 hours is. So we're having a birthday party. This when 0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.240 I knew he was in there some ship, right, because 0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.040 he was stressed out all the time. Man, you know, 0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.480 just like he had all this stuff but could never 0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.160 enjoy it. Just seemed like he was always just going 0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.080 you know what I mean. So we're having the birthday 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.040 party for the kids for my son over the this 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.280 house were over in Lakewood. Right, it's a new creative 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.240 you got. So I'm looking for the bathroom. I walking 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.560 run room. Remember they had the brown bag trade trash 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:13.680 bags whole room for the money. Just you know, just 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.719 like talked about me. You know, you see some ship 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.960 like that. So me I'm talking like, man, what you 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:19.960 got going on? Bro? You know what I mean? Because 0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.600 had I known you got all this over you, I 0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:23.200 wouldn't not damn sh it. Wouldnt be over it with 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.960 you because I've always been no nonsense, you know what 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:27.840 I mean, Because I know I'm not trying to go 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.600 to jail with nobody. They run up in his motherfucking 0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.160 and sure, as you know, I look at his discovery papers. 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.920 I'm in there as shock. They called me shocking the 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:44.040 discovery papers. How you getting conversation? You know, phone conversations 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.560 and just me, Thank god, we never he never put 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:47.959 us none of his ship, you know what I mean. 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.160 But he has given us money. He had given his 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.000 money before. You know what I'm saying for Look, you 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.440 know little things say bro, go talk to your homeboy. 0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:59.759 This car. You know I had a partner to deal 0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:03.440 with cars and ship, right, you know, giving well, get 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.520 this for me. I guess they found that I didn't 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.279 have nothing to do with it because I always had 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.839 some squares ship going on. It's like when I did 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.759 my little dippling and dabbling. It took me one time 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:14.840 for the police to tell me, hey we and I 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.680 was that was I left a hole my homeboy, and 0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:19.239 tell you you know, a big fine. But you tell 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.000 y'all left a hole zone back in the bid and 0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:25.719 walked away because I recognized left, walked, walked away, left 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:27.680 it right down the building. Because what happened was, um, 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.960 we was on Ohio and An and they should be 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:32.520 the spot. You know, I'm not here from Ohio with 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.319 no money, right, So I was pretty good at it. It 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:38.400 It was easy. It wasn't nothing. You know, I'm a big, tall, intimidating. 0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:41.680 The first thing, I actually had good customer service. The 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.200 mother dudes out there beating niggers up, taking their money 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:46.479 and ship I was, you know, gave you a nice 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.719 big huver rock, you know what I mean. Feeding all 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.759 the smokers, you know, you know I had them, you know, 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:55.080 having things. Then I you know, one lady gave me 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.480 the idea, you know, Nickels. I started selling Nicholas, right. 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.720 I had goes out there right, so I was short 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:06.000 stopping everybody ship between motherfucker's hitting that corner, me having 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.880 the box, motherfucker's niggas pulling the hand, and little niggas 0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.040 this tall pulling downs on me this big and ships 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.080 about you're sucking up my money, you know what I mean. 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.239 And they don't want to do nothing because they're cool 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.759 with the homie, but they you know, if they don't 0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.640 want to see me like this, but they just pretty 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.120 much I just saw it wasn't worth it to me. Man, 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.040 it just wasn't worth it. You'll have some money in 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.960 my pocket now. Man. But I remember my mom had 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:28.560 called me early that morning and she said, what's going 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:32.080 on with you? Now, Monty in California? Play football. I 0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.880 ain't came out here to become the king piano scarface. 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.759 You gotta remember this, nineteen eighty nine. And it was 0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:40.480 it was easy, you know when I because when I 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.680 first went out to the first night I was out there, 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.440 I made twelve hundred dollars, just like it was easy. 0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.200 The only thing that slowed me down I didn't have 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.840 enough savvy in the game. I kept going back buying 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.520 double ups like a dumbass, you know what I mean. 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:58.040 Like I didn't have another sense, you know. You know 0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:59.759 what I'm saying. I don't have enough sense. So I'm 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.239 just study going back. You could you could have held, 0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.280 you could have handled at the time you walked away 0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:09.520 from my house, you know what I'm saying. So, but 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.320 you know that's the thing I got, man, because it 0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.400 starts I start feeling this sense of power. Right because 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.120 first of all, now I don't went from being a 0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.239 nigger that where the same leaver as the school every 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.319 day to where I got the cock sport t phone, 0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:22.479 I got me a little cube and ling, I got 0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:24.440 me a page and my homeboy don took me the 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.799 compass wapping me and I'm you know, I'm feeling good. 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:29.880 I don't got the little I don't grow the little shaggy, 0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.359 you know what I mean. And you know what I'm saying. 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:33.920 I don't got me a little thing. You know, you know, 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:35.600 nigger got a kno in this pocket. You know, you 0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.920 go to you know, Friday night, you're going, um, what's 0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:40.880 a little Tommy Burger? And you out there, you know 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:42.560 you actually a little night in your pocket. You got 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.759 your twenty five dollars in your pocket. You know, you're right, 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:47.239 you know what I mean. You're doing your thing. You're 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.879 going to Hollywood and you're just getting the attention. Right. 0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.239 But my mom had called me the morning. It was 0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:53.919 something in the the foray. She said, I know you out 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.080 there doing something. Whatever you're doing, you need to stop. 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:58.919 So it was just different that day. It felt dark 0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.160 that day because I will starts getting football practice to 0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:04.120 go to the block. First of the month, man, fun practice. 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:06.719 I'm this ship is this is the thousand dollar day, 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.960 you know what I mean? But just how you how 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.520 you explain it? A whole bunch of cats can't explain 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:17.120 it like that. I was done, man, Is that you know? 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:18.920 Because you know what I measured up with it? Man, 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.960 Because the way this cop broke me down was like 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.160 I was animal. The way like they could you could 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.239 tell they was frustrated. They couldn't find nothing. You know, 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.200 I didn't have no pistol on me. I didn't have nothing. 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.359 I left my little pistol at the house that day, right. 0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:34.719 I didn't had no pistol on you didn't have nothing 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.000 on me, And I kept my ship. One thing my 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:40.080 boy told him, he said, never keep that ship on you, 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.200 Never keep it on you. So they was looking forward, dog, 0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:47.640 and they couldn't find it. I walked away. I walked 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:49.919 straight back to the house. Man. I didn't I didn't 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.839 pay us go, didn't try to go back and look 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:53.479 at it for nothing, and didn't try to do nothing, 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:57.640 you know what I mean. No, I wasn't working with it, dog. 0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.560 I'm pretty sure fine he's fat ass went back over 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.319 there trying, you know what I mean, try to do 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.319 this ship. But I was done, man, because what idea was. 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.840 I did the math for it because I got people, 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.719 know how, they all my whole family, you know how man. 0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:11.600 My daddy said, all of them dudes is in the 0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:15.000 fizs now for hustling, right, So I already knew the 0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:18.000 endgame was and I always did the math for I said, okay, 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:20.800 you figure I'm doing this now and I could probably 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.759 go this, but when they stretched me that time gonna 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:27.440 be like me getting a check from McDonald's. Yes, when 0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:29.120 they break it down, you know, when you break down 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.160 the time. So it just wasn't. It just wasn't. It 0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:34.880 just went in the mix. What goes? What's the eyes 0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:39.800 of coming home and and you still have money left? 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.760 How many guys would you say came home that still 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:47.520 had paper from from during twenty years and then get 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:52.040 out and still can relax off the money they made. 0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:56.680 I don't know none. I don't. I don't know none. Um. 0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:08.800 You know the stuff that you but I had, Um, 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:11.719 I don't. I didn't need it. You know I needed it, 0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.319 but um, it's something I didn't think about because you 0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:18.200 know it's like Mom's you know you can have it. 0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:24.080 You know, um my mom, man, Um, she wouldn't accept nothing. 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.120 She wouldn't accept nothing. So I put it in there 0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.919 and I'll hold it for you. He's like, my mom 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.360 didn't want nothing, you know she you know, she's um. 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.879 The church in Compton, you know, yeah, she didn't want nothing, man. 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:43.279 And um, you know she had a little um trying 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.239 to buy her things. She tried to buy her car, 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.960 she didn't want that. Um, try to move her out 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:54.200 the project, she didn't want that. Um, she didn't want nothing, man. 0:46:54.280 --> 0:47:01.239 And UM, I'm trying to. I'm trying to. I'm trying 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.560 to help her out, you know, trying to help her out. 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:05.600 But my mom is like one of them women from 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:11.040 old school, you know. Um, God, God faring, you know that. 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:14.560 You know what am I to say, you know to Jesus? 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.440 And you know because the church and Compton that's where 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.239 we grew up at. You know, my my um, my 0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:24.960 godmother was the pastor of the church in Compton, and 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.040 and she still go there to this day. And my 0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:30.480 mom is, UM. I had to tell her, you know, 0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.200 you need you with cars, so go ahead and take it. 0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:38.080 And she did. Man. Um, I'm thinking she's gonna buy 0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:44.719 Honda or something mom mom bought escalade, Mom bother escalade, 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.560 you know, and she was enjoying that part right there. 0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:51.640 But um yeah, it's um. You know what Norm talking 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:55.320 about Homi is um is I saw no danger in it. 0:47:56.480 --> 0:48:00.560 And that's the problem. That's because it's different his lifestyle 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:04.360 and your lifestyle. Your lifestyle and mind is in the hood. 0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:09.919 His lifestyle is a transfer coming to the hood. Coming 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.719 to the hood is easy to walk away. But on 0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:15.879 a daily living in the hood and got to see 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.640 these same people every day on the daily basis and 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:23.640 functioning this that's what I am. I'm from the hood. 0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:27.080 The hood is me. So that's why our situation is 0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:31.719 totally different. He didn't. He didn't have to endure a 0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.960 day to day with the hood. I kept with one 0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:37.560 hundred to the game. I took twenty with it and 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:42.040 I ran with it. This is my mentality, my values, 0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:46.759 and my beliefs was funked up. Well, God, dude, was culling. 0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:54.319 Your ego killed my ego. Verizon wireless signs getting my 0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:59.600 foods into me, my homeboard, my homeboy gave me get 0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:05.640 feet me. So going back to norm, going back to norm, 0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:07.880 I mean like I had to get the gap. You 0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:10.520 know I can. I can bump one easy. You think 0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:12.160 what I'm saying. I still had a little bit. I 0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:16.120 still had that right there. But it's different now if 0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:17.360 I do bump. But what can I do with it? 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:21.400 Not goddamn thing. So this fear of financial insecurities come in. 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:27.160 I say, I call a a homie. Um its ghost man, 0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:31.439 it's ghosts and um oh yeah, my probation just got 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:37.400 transferred from Long Beach to Inglewood, right and uh and 0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:40.440 I had you know, so I'm doing that. I'm catching 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:45.640 this goddamn bust. And so I called aos. What's up? 0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.560 Homies like this? Ghost gain? Yeah, Hey, I can get you. 0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:51.560 I can get you. Thirty I can get I can 0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:57.080 get the car um almost in the game. You know, 0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:00.200 Um I can, I could, I could thirty thousand was 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:05.240 I'm getting paid four hundred four twenty dollars a week, 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:15.560 twirling rising Wireley signs the fuck. I tell Norm like, Norm, um, 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:19.560 I'm gonna get a jack And he's like, I go 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:23.200 over his house and he said back and talk. He said, bag, 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.040 you know what you do anything you want to do. 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:32.480 All I do is make a suggestion phone ring. Hey, ghost, 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:36.560 what's up. What's up? Else? It was up on me? Um, yeah, man, 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:41.200 you know what, M I got the whole sixty fuck 0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:49.200 shoot room. I felt it right here Norm Norm's We're 0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.759 sitting in his backyard eating toast. You know what. He's 0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:54.719 an old man, you know. And Um, he said, I'm like, 0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:57.480 you know what I'm gonna tell you on me, I'm good, 0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:01.600 I'm good. He's like, what your man? I said, I'm good? 0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:03.359 I said, you know. He said, you know you looked 0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:04.919 out for me back in the eighties, you know, giving 0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:07.239 me that work. I said, you know that was part 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:11.919 of my old lifestyle. Man. Um, you know what on me? Um, 0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:15.040 I don't need it. Man. You know I'm cool. I 0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:19.439 guarantee you. I continued into I'm cool. So UM, I said, 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.520 you know what on me? Um, I can't you know, 0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:24.000 we can't talk no more. He said, you're sure. I'm like, 0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:29.680 I'm positive Gary, And he's like and Norms like looking 0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:33.640 at me, not not this Norm. You know. Um, his 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:37.440 name is Norman, you know. Um? And I say, Um, 0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:39.480 I'm good, I'm good. I hanged the phone up and 0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:42.000 I'm like, he said, what happened? I said? He said, 0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:44.799 he can get me all sixty. He said, when was 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.080 the first I've been asking for that? For that, I said, 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.480 about a week ago and took what he said. He 0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:51.960 said give me eight and didn't give me thirty, and 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.640 now he could get the whole sixty. So my my 0:51:55.719 --> 0:52:00.879 other homeboy, what messing with this female? Who knew? Soon? 0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:06.000 So I gotta go. Um, I gotta go to Englewood, 0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:08.480 you know, to you know, go see the Pyo Go 0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:12.520 peanut bottle ship like that. And he sits back. His 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:18.440 name is Mr mctoire. He said, Um, you you changed. 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:23.920 I see what you mean. He said, Um, I'm glad 0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:27.560 you changed. Mr. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, 0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:29.840 what do you mean? And he was like, are you 0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.400 associating with your old cronies? I said, some people do 0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:34.600 call me, you know, I said, but I have I 0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:36.759 have a strong mentor in my life now. And he 0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:44.680 was like, can I show you something? I said, yeah. 0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:50.640 It's August a special special agent maur Hand with Gary. 0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:54.440 Oh well you know Gary, he gonna you know, the 0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:58.400 wan for Wred. They called the ghost um known drug dealer. 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:04.319 He's gonna try to um. They called it um an 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:08.360 overt act. I didn't agree. I agree but I didn't agree. 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:13.279 I didn't agree. Um, you're don't try to get him. No, No, 0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.640 I didn't know that he caught a case coming through Mexico. 0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:23.520 You know, I just got out and I had to 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.800 go drop a deuce. I listened to that ship, special 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:33.520 Agent marahand the federal um um, the d A. Lauren 0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:36.640 mallerhand this scared ship. Scared. He was about to work 0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:40.480 you and put you back in for sixty grant that 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.239 you had twenty years ago. His mother go was because 0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:48.840 he knows, he knows that what it was for was 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:52.160 for and where it where it came from. And I 0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:56.040 never told on nobody I got got from doing the 0:53:56.120 --> 0:54:01.120 seventeen year bit on a drug case. Right, they try 0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.520 to He's trying to get me, you know, show you 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:08.880 back to another team. Um, probably so, probably so. And 0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.719 then he listened again. A couple of days later, it's 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:16.480 August fourteen, so on so time, Special Agent maraham, we're 0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:20.840 going to attempt with Mr Gary, attempt to speak with 0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:27.319 Mr Diwan for one more again. I need your thirty dog. 0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.880 I'm good. Yeah, let me think about, you know, a 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:35.960 conversation and then the last one normal sitting there with me. 0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:40.840 And you know what my po said. He said, I'm 0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.520 glad you did not say yes because we were gonna 0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:47.319 come and get you. I suppose you're gonna get me 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:51.240 fall he said, ex feeling and put um in the conspiracy. 0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:58.959 Um um frettened um um its been a conspiracy. Yeah yeah, 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.120 that and I forgot to I've got the other charge. 0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:05.000 It's some bullshit, right. I had no money. I have 0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.239 no more money. Pay no lorders, no more. You know, 0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:10.200 eight dollars, eight dollars. He sain't gonna pay no, I'm 0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:15.400 gonna get a public pretender. So make a long story short. Um. 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:17.440 I came out the bathroom and I said, I dropped 0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:18.920 the duce. I had to go drop a duce. So 0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.480 I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want to go. 0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:23.799 I don't want to do that no more. You see 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:28.520 what I'm saying. So um, I called, I walked out. 0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:31.400 I walked down the Brea and I went to the 0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:33.920 bus stop right there on Manchester because I got a 0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:38.440 little studio apartment, implied del Rey. You know, it was 0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:42.600 probably biggest you bathroom you know? And I called, I 0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:46.640 called Norm, and I said, man, I'm gonna take every 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:51.400 suggestion that you give me. And he started laughing and says, 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:59.399 start over again. And I did. And that's the good lad. 0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:04.319 And it's it's hard because most of us don't take heed, 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:09.000 especially these young cats today ain't gonna listen to you. 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:14.120 You had to close that book before you started a 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:18.920 new one. I realized that you can't be Midel James 0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:23.080 and then be James McDonald. You have to close one 0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:27.200 of them. You're only old and possessed one identity. You 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:30.800 can't live two different knives. You're gonna they gonna interact 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:34.320 at some point, which what this was, What's gonna happened 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:37.239 to you? By working with this cat? Now I got 0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:41.359 the whole sixty temptation is a motherfucker. If you never 0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:45.279 spoke with no him and he gave you those suggestions, 0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:47.319 you just you have been out there trying to get 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.120 that jack. Yes, but that jack would have put your 0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:54.360 drove you straight back to where you came from exactly. 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.759 And and you know and one thing that um, what 0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:01.000 he tells me is he tells me that this is 0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:03.520 an old man, is seventy two year old man, a 0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:07.680 little bity dude by five four. He puts his finger 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:12.160 in my chest and tell me you're not your story 0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:18.240 no more. You will tell your story. Fox me excuse 0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:21.960 my language, fox me up. You will tell your stories 0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:28.320 to being your story. And that's that's And the thing 0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:31.880 about it is he never had no sons, and he 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:35.040 he has two daughters. And I said, I want everything 0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:38.520 that you got. I want everything that you got. And 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:44.160 he said, continue to take suggestions and elevate your mind setting, 0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:48.520 your vibration and your frequency, and you will produce similar 0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:51.320 results to myself. See now this is what the This 0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:53.240 is what I do. This is what I do on 0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:56.360 a daily basis. My palms are down these junctures. I 0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:59.560 told Junior the other day, Um, I wear with the 0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:01.840 funk I wanted to wear. I love to think this. 0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:04.400 I ain't gonna lie. Um, but I'm wearing a red 0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:06.680 a Theata sweatsuit just like this. And I'm in the 0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:11.040 store in Inglewood called Robert's Market. I see these three youngsters, right, 0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:14.040 you know, wearing these skinny jeans you know, you know, 0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:16.000 sagging and ship. So I walk up to the store 0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:18.040 and the first thing they do is they look at this. 0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:20.480 Remember I used to be on the other side, you know, 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:22.240 so raids a new thank to me. You know what 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:25.480 I'm saying. So I'm wearing this red on four dita suit. 0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:32.120 This was Thursday, Friday, last Friday. Um. And then I 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:34.480 walked inside the liquor store, right I got, I got 0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:37.880 my mask on everything, and these three youngsters they just 0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:44.720 look at me. I said, what's up, youngsters, how do 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:48.200 you doing? What's your name? What's your name? I'm d 0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:50.160 J Vaerette man. They used to call me. Go push 0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.720 up with your name. And they look at me, and 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:54.680 I said, don't be afraid of me. I'm not afraid 0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:58.240 of you. I see your life matters to me. I said, 0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:01.400 I come here to buy a fantasy and a pack 0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:07.640 of cigarettes. Don't get afraid of me. And in all 0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:12.600 this right here and all that following went down, and 0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:16.280 I said, um, sit y'all up to night. We're just 0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:18.080 trying to get a little, you know, a little something. 0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:20.560 You know, I'm forty nine years old. Then they're made 0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:22.560 by in their early thirties. You know what I'm saying. 0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:27.400 And and they said, I'm not afraid of you. I 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:29.840 see you look defensive when I walk inside the store. 0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:32.560 You guys just kept looking at me, you know, I said, 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:34.640 I'm don't be afraid to be youngest. You know. You 0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:37.200 said your life matters to me. You know, I hope 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.960 my life matters to you too. And they were like, 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:44.080 make a long story show. I called Junior right after that, 0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.480 and we're on the phone. I said, Man, I'm in 0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:50.920 the fucking parking lot at Robert's Liquor and Inglewood and 0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:55.200 we're just chopping it up with these junctions. And I said, 0:59:55.400 --> 1:00:00.600 the thing is, you need to give this away. You 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:05.000 need to evade your vibration, your frequency. So when we 1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.720 see somebody that looks like you, you don't have to 1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:11.320 be afraid. You see what I'm saying. I said, because 1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:15.320 your life matters. My life matters, I said, Edward, the 1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:17.640 funk I go. If I'm on eight of the main, 1:00:18.080 --> 1:00:21.000 if I'm in fucking Compton, if I'm in fucking Wise, 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:23.560 if I'm in the Pacific Palisades, and if I'm if 1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:25.640 I put off the freeway and I'm by the Nicholsons 1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:27.280 and I go up to the gas station, I should be. 1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:31.440 I should don't be. Don't be afraid of you, because 1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:39.800 fear means false evidence appearing real. So don't be afraid 1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:43.360 of me, you know, I'm you know, I taught these 1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:48.640 guys face everything and rise. This is my this is 1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:54.200 my thing, and that's where we gotta get afraid of 1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:56.480 each other. And when I told you me, answer James, 1:00:57.000 --> 1:01:03.920 I just I spent seventeen years in penitentiary. No, no, 1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:09.200 you've seen me. Saw my prison card. I'm like, no, like, yes, 1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:11.200 I did, I see I did. I've been there, So 1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:17.160 you don't have to We're gonna keep spreading that. Yeah, 1:01:17.160 --> 1:01:19.400 we don have to keep spreading up if you can't 1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:21.640 do me a favor because we got a lot of 1:01:21.640 --> 1:01:25.560 people look at the show. Explain what vibrations and frequencies are, 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:27.360 because I'm pretty sure it's a lot of people out 1:01:27.360 --> 1:01:29.760 there that don't know. Oh right, all right, um, I'm 1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:31.920 gonna I'm gonna speak about my experience or what I 1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:35.520 learned through vibrations and frequency. It's it's it's it's a feeling. 1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:38.560 You cannot see it. You can see the results of 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:42.040 a vibration or or higher frequency, but you cannot see it. 1:01:42.480 --> 1:01:46.600 Um My, Now, I never imagine even speaking like this before. 1:01:46.920 --> 1:01:50.840 But me, um, I know that everything is perfect, right. 1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:53.720 I do believe in I believe in God, you know, 1:01:54.080 --> 1:01:56.600 not organized religion. That's not my thing. But if it's 1:01:56.720 --> 1:01:58.320 it's it's more of a spiritual thing, which is an 1:01:58.320 --> 1:02:01.680 invisible thing, right, which is a vibration, which is the frequency, 1:02:01.720 --> 1:02:05.480 which is I like to call God. This is me right, 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:10.960 which is perfect? It's perfect. So everything I look at, 1:02:11.080 --> 1:02:14.560 I see a vibration or a frequency. Like when we 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:19.920 met high vibration, high frequency, we and you transmitted something 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:24.760 which the laws of attraction. So I know that you're perfect. 1:02:26.040 --> 1:02:30.520 I know everybody's perfect, right, I know, but that vibration 1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:35.120 needs a point of reference. The vibration needs a point 1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:37.880 of reference for me. This is my interpretation of that. 1:02:38.440 --> 1:02:43.520 So if I can transmit it our it's a laws 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:47.440 of attraction. And I know that my invisible part of me, 1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:53.760 my invisible the part that only I know, was undeveloped 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:58.880 at one time. That's because we live a toxic life. 1:02:59.160 --> 1:03:04.680 It was perfect, but undeveloped. So therefore my human experience 1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:09.600 has been toxic. Right. So once I learned to tune 1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:14.080 in to this thing called perfection, which is a vibration 1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:17.480 or frequency, and I developed that just like buff iron, 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:21.080 just like we learned, like we learned stuff. I learned 1:03:21.080 --> 1:03:24.920 this inside stuff which is the invisible part which I 1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:29.760 know it was perfect and therefore the results I produced 1:03:30.600 --> 1:03:33.720 A dann, You're perfect and my toxic and my human 1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:37.920 experience ain't been toxic anymore. So it's a tuning in. 1:03:38.160 --> 1:03:43.920 It's listening to that my voice, which is which connects. 1:03:44.000 --> 1:03:47.440 So it's kind of deep, man, it's real deep. But um, 1:03:47.480 --> 1:03:50.480 I learned. I learned this stuff when I was um, 1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:54.400 when I was in Turkey. Um, I learned this the 1:03:54.520 --> 1:03:57.400 same thing when I was in Australian Melbourne, when I 1:03:57.480 --> 1:04:00.320 was speaking with the Aboriginals when they were in cars rated. 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:02.040 Because this is what I get a chance to do. 1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:05.120 I get a chance to go with different places. You know, 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:08.120 I'm blessed on me. I'm blessed. I can take this. 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:10.600 I can take the twenty year prisoners that they gave 1:04:10.640 --> 1:04:15.120 me and I can convert that into an asset. Yeah 1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:17.080 I do. You know, I do get paid for that. 1:04:17.120 --> 1:04:19.320 You know, I like, I ain't a lie, but um, 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:24.160 I take that and I go to these places. You know, Um, 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:28.280 and I talked about this perfection and you know, Aboriginals 1:04:29.240 --> 1:04:33.480 they're real spiritual. Everything is nature, everything is is they 1:04:33.520 --> 1:04:35.880 see God. You know, you know what I'm saying, but 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:42.200 I get them, I get their attention by telling my 1:04:42.280 --> 1:04:49.640 story and they don't see saying And so that's that's 1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:56.320 that's tuning in to that how my frequency um of 1:04:56.480 --> 1:04:59.320 tuning that in and getting the high vibration. Because if 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:02.360 I wasn't little different vibrations or say, a different channel, 1:05:03.080 --> 1:05:05.320 I wouldn't be sitting him with you. I wouldn't be 1:05:05.320 --> 1:05:10.880 sitting him exactly exactly. And that's the thing, um, what 1:05:11.000 --> 1:05:14.120 I wanted to get across, man is um, I look 1:05:14.200 --> 1:05:17.720 at James, I look at you. You know, people that 1:05:18.240 --> 1:05:21.600 actually been through the storm, just changed their life right, 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:23.800 and and all of that is real. I tell I 1:05:23.880 --> 1:05:25.800 preached that to everybody that I know that you know, 1:05:25.840 --> 1:05:28.080 trying to get in the business or whatever it is 1:05:28.120 --> 1:05:29.960 they're doing. I'm telling that you have to get you 1:05:30.080 --> 1:05:33.200 right first before you try to embark on anything. And 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:36.640 everything can't be about money because if you're doing the 1:05:36.720 --> 1:05:40.360 right thing, the money had comes. It's weird how it works. 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:43.000 It's a reward because if you do, if you work hard. 1:05:43.080 --> 1:05:45.000 Like when we came in here to do this podcast, 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:48.920 we never talked about money. At first. It was always 1:05:49.000 --> 1:05:51.360 less make the dopest thing possible. Because I had this 1:05:51.400 --> 1:05:55.280 idea for three years and I never went forward with 1:05:55.320 --> 1:05:58.520 it because I got to get the right people involved 1:05:58.520 --> 1:05:59.840 with it, you know what I mean, Because it was 1:06:00.160 --> 1:06:03.520 that I saw being like, um, not just a seasonal 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:05.600 show one or two years things. I saw being a 1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:08.160 thing that where brothers can get together around table to 1:06:08.160 --> 1:06:12.000 a certain experiences, and it's something that's like that's gonna 1:06:12.080 --> 1:06:15.400 go beyond me. You know. It's almost like the guy 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:18.800 that opened up the first McDonald's franchise, you know, he 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:21.080 didn't see him have him you know, McDonald's all over 1:06:21.080 --> 1:06:22.520 the world at that time. He just opened up a 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:25.040 Burger's thing, you know, but then it spread. I see 1:06:25.040 --> 1:06:27.520 this being a thing that where thirty years from us, 1:06:28.040 --> 1:06:30.960 three more brothers sitting at the table talking. You know 1:06:31.000 --> 1:06:33.840 what I mean. Well, it is actually time for it, 1:06:34.560 --> 1:06:38.560 and like I said, things in life is happening because 1:06:38.560 --> 1:06:41.919 of that, and it's time for change, and it's it's 1:06:42.520 --> 1:06:44.880 you know, we didn't happen to be sitting across the 1:06:44.920 --> 1:06:48.400 table on the flute. You know what I'm saying. I 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:51.800 think things are being placed in front of me. Is 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:55.920 what as you was knowing and everybody that listened to 1:06:56.000 --> 1:07:00.600 this podcast we all getting a chance to see in 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:05.640 here and listen to your story, my story, and if 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:09.400 you if you add it up, man, it's all the same, 1:07:09.520 --> 1:07:13.560 the same fucking road. But I went over the hill 1:07:13.680 --> 1:07:16.560 this way, I hit the curve this way, and yours 1:07:16.560 --> 1:07:20.160 went that way. But it's all the same thing, and 1:07:20.240 --> 1:07:25.840 everything is coming straight out of the neighborhood. So learning 1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:29.440 that and understanding that and then growing up and growing 1:07:29.520 --> 1:07:33.880 up as men sinning wrong and knowing that there's a 1:07:33.960 --> 1:07:38.520 need for change. That's that that this is, this is 1:07:38.560 --> 1:07:41.840 a cold piece right here, and everybody got to see 1:07:41.880 --> 1:07:43.560 and understand that. You don't want to be on this 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:47.320 pin off, you know that, because with this, I mean 1:07:47.760 --> 1:07:51.400 you gotta bring you hey game to to to get out, 1:07:51.720 --> 1:07:54.360 to get out of prison and then be able to 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:56.840 show that and say I've made it out. But this 1:07:56.880 --> 1:07:58.920 is what I'm doing with it. And that's one of 1:07:58.960 --> 1:08:03.520 my biggest things. The young catch is not understanding that 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:07.439 today it's glorifying it, man, you know it's um. It's 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:12.480 it's it's you know, glorifying and desensitizing um. And they 1:08:12.520 --> 1:08:15.680 don't understand of how you watch your mama get old 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:18.920 in the visiting room, These catching understanding when they watch 1:08:19.000 --> 1:08:22.000 their kids grow up in the visiting room and then 1:08:22.120 --> 1:08:25.720 have grandkids in the visiting room. They ain't understanding that. 1:08:25.800 --> 1:08:28.800 You know. They're talking about, you know, pulling these pistols out. 1:08:29.120 --> 1:08:31.439 Now there's a consequence for that. Either gonna get the 1:08:31.439 --> 1:08:34.880 death penalty or you're gonna get stretched the funk out 1:08:35.520 --> 1:08:41.240 or get killed. And these these bullet wounds I got 1:08:41.240 --> 1:08:45.519 in my back. I made it. I heard you talking 1:08:45.560 --> 1:08:48.760 about that. It's like motherfucker's don't understanding what what a 1:08:48.800 --> 1:08:52.040 hot one feels like. And you and you got your 1:08:52.240 --> 1:08:55.280 you got your fifteen years old, and you wonder why 1:08:55.320 --> 1:08:57.479 he fell on the ground. He's bleeding out of his ear, 1:08:58.120 --> 1:08:59.720 and then you know, you look back in. Motherfucker's just 1:08:59.760 --> 1:09:02.479 shoot because I'm wanting a different code. You know, motheruck's 1:09:02.479 --> 1:09:05.320 ain't understanding that, you know, because it's the values and 1:09:05.400 --> 1:09:08.759 beliefs I believed in my in my hood at one time, 1:09:09.040 --> 1:09:11.519 and I believed that I was grapping my hood. But 1:09:11.680 --> 1:09:14.360 now I got this new information real on me. What 1:09:14.520 --> 1:09:16.599 I was doing was I was a part of holding 1:09:16.600 --> 1:09:21.519 my neighborhood hostage and making it dangerous. That's true. You know, 1:09:21.800 --> 1:09:25.000 my neighborhood. Now, I'm gonna tell you it's funny. It's 1:09:25.040 --> 1:09:29.000 the most populated place for tricker treaters because I sit 1:09:29.080 --> 1:09:31.960 on my porch and give off and give off candy, 1:09:32.280 --> 1:09:35.200 and like where y'are from, they ain't from nowheld, I 1:09:35.240 --> 1:09:37.960 live in the Pacific Palace, Sage. Now you see what 1:09:38.000 --> 1:09:40.160 I'm saying, and it's it's a blessing that I got 1:09:40.200 --> 1:09:42.720 a chance to. You know, I got blessed with opportunities. 1:09:42.720 --> 1:09:46.160 So that's that's where I raised my children at. You know, 1:09:46.760 --> 1:09:50.760 but living up there is very few people that look 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:55.599 like my neighbor Barondad, she lived down street. You know, Um, 1:09:55.760 --> 1:10:00.000 Sugar Ray Leonard, you know ship like that, you know. Um. 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:05.519 Sitting back on my porch seeing these youngsters man, these 1:10:05.600 --> 1:10:10.320 kids and they're having fun. It's like we used to 1:10:10.360 --> 1:10:15.560 leave the projects to go trick or treat, you know, um, 1:10:15.600 --> 1:10:20.639 because my older homeboys made it dangerous. That's people keep 1:10:20.680 --> 1:10:24.679 a call. We just gonna put in work. I ain't 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:29.080 talking about going to McDonald's or putting work to rep 1:10:29.160 --> 1:10:31.560 the neighborhood. You feel what I'm saying. I know what, 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:33.800 I know what Chicken previous lay, I knew what the 1:10:33.920 --> 1:10:37.599 fourth of July, was like, yeah, I don't stay at home. 1:10:37.840 --> 1:10:41.000 You know where I live now, where I raised my 1:10:41.080 --> 1:10:46.479 children that right now, Um, it's it's it's a little 1:10:46.479 --> 1:10:51.200 bit different. And um and people say, are you gonna 1:10:51.200 --> 1:10:54.400 tell your kids about your previous life? I said, when 1:10:54.479 --> 1:10:56.880 they don't have to understand, I said, because you know 1:10:57.640 --> 1:10:59.680 they're gonna read. They're gonna read daddy's book. You know, 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:03.240 I wrote, Um, some of the stuff that I get 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:05.360 a chance to do when I get a chance to 1:11:05.400 --> 1:11:08.400 go out there to a university or a different country 1:11:08.760 --> 1:11:11.719 to go look at their penal system and wonder what 1:11:11.920 --> 1:11:15.960 I've done, because they want to have a blueprint, you know, 1:11:16.160 --> 1:11:19.840 so they want to know that. So when they asked me, um, 1:11:19.880 --> 1:11:24.280 you know who ever thought you asked my opinion of 1:11:24.320 --> 1:11:27.880 how can I add some ship to a prison, um 1:11:27.920 --> 1:11:32.880 for a re entry programs for our inmates to um 1:11:32.920 --> 1:11:37.920 to use because you've been successful in it. So um, 1:11:38.040 --> 1:11:40.960 they're foreign field between. But I do get a chance 1:11:41.000 --> 1:11:45.680 to go do that. You see what I'm saying. Um, Um, 1:11:45.800 --> 1:11:47.960 we're just giving them for an important person to cut off. 1:11:48.560 --> 1:11:50.800 Because people need this information. That's what this show was 1:11:50.840 --> 1:11:55.680 all the semblance of information what's the name of your book? Oh? 1:11:55.720 --> 1:11:57.840 The name of my book is called an Inside Job 1:11:58.000 --> 1:12:01.439 from Life and Amaze to an Amazing Life. What could 1:12:01.439 --> 1:12:05.719 people go first? They can go purchases at www dot 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:09.240 mr d J for red dot com m R d 1:12:09.479 --> 1:12:12.320 J v E R R E t T dot com. 1:12:12.680 --> 1:12:14.519 They can go get that right there, and we can 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:16.439 have a link right there in the description. We have 1:12:16.560 --> 1:12:19.840 a link for the podcast and description. So check for that. Man. 1:12:20.560 --> 1:12:23.120 You know, this has been incredible, man, Man, and I 1:12:23.280 --> 1:12:25.640 really you know, I thank you for coming through and 1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:28.040 sharing this information with us, Man, because it's very important. 1:12:28.080 --> 1:12:31.240 We're gonna have you back again. I appreciate that, Man, 1:12:31.320 --> 1:12:34.599 I think was one quick thing. All close with this. Man. Um, 1:12:36.479 --> 1:12:38.559 I'm a clinical supervisor. I'm got to school and I 1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:41.679 got some education from my belt. Because can't nobody take 1:12:41.720 --> 1:12:46.599 that from you the films, am Um. I'm a clinical 1:12:46.640 --> 1:12:52.200 supervisor and I get these inmates ready. That's all I do. 1:12:52.760 --> 1:12:55.320 I work with the mind. I said they will never 1:12:55.680 --> 1:13:01.000 this this mc RP would never hire me. They hired me. 1:13:01.320 --> 1:13:05.000 I've been working at two years and the success rate 1:13:05.120 --> 1:13:11.280 is fucking ridiculous because I have the blueprint and I'm 1:13:11.280 --> 1:13:13.400 one of them. I go to work. I wore a 1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:16.879 tie every day I go to work. I model away 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:28.800 and closing February six, I'm I'm the clinical part. I'm 1:13:28.840 --> 1:13:35.240 the clinical part. Right. They bring these guys in and 1:13:35.360 --> 1:13:39.880 I issue them out to my staff. Right, they're all 1:13:39.920 --> 1:13:44.559 they're all counselors. They're all clinical counselors. I look at 1:13:44.560 --> 1:13:49.639 the birthday on there, and I say, April second, nineteen 1:13:49.760 --> 1:13:53.919 and one. I look at the name. It's Cold defending 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:59.400 my home boy, the one who pointed me out. M hmm. 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:02.679 Here I am twenty eight years later to the day 1:14:02.680 --> 1:14:06.960 on I said, I said, make sure he's the last 1:14:07.000 --> 1:14:08.880 one that comes to my office, comes to me because 1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:11.760 I had to do a clinical assessment on him. He 1:14:11.880 --> 1:14:16.559 comes in my office and look like he saw ghosts 1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:20.640 and then ship, I'll tell him to sit down. He 1:14:20.640 --> 1:14:22.519 looks at me like I'm looking at you. He's tall, 1:14:22.680 --> 1:14:25.880 you know, talk brother, you know. I was like, this 1:14:25.920 --> 1:14:29.519 is Bizarres, and you know what the day is, He says, 1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:37.400 February six. I see. I said, man, before we start, 1:14:37.520 --> 1:14:41.200 let me apologize to you. And he said for what. 1:14:43.040 --> 1:14:45.439 He still got the orange jumps, So don't he say 1:14:45.520 --> 1:14:50.760 for what? I let me apologize for my behavior and 1:14:51.600 --> 1:14:56.080 forgiving you something that you couldn't handle the consequences which 1:14:56.200 --> 1:14:57.840 forced you to do something you don't want to do. 1:14:58.000 --> 1:14:59.960 It was based on fear. I forgive you. I said, 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:04.000 twenty years did not break me. Twenty years and my 1:15:04.120 --> 1:15:06.479 brave dog. And he looked at me. I said, who would. 1:15:06.479 --> 1:15:08.400 I would have never thought that will be in this position. 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:12.160 I said, numbers, numbers, February seen you in my office. 1:15:12.920 --> 1:15:14.840 I'm here to help you with your thinking, your values 1:15:14.840 --> 1:15:17.680 and beliefs. I held on to this. You're telling on me, 1:15:17.720 --> 1:15:20.280 you're bringing me to the lifestyle, and you're telling on me. 1:15:21.439 --> 1:15:25.240 So I forgive you. I said, do you forgive me? 1:15:25.280 --> 1:15:32.439 I need your forgiveness. And you just said, yeah, that's 1:15:32.439 --> 1:15:34.880 the man ship right there. Yeah, because you know the 1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:40.360 thing meals nothing happened seeing and I noticed for effect 1:15:40.439 --> 1:15:44.840 man because we're nothing like that. But I know I 1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:48.000 forgave him because we all have these journeys in life 1:15:48.040 --> 1:15:50.320 man like James said, this is like a book, right, 1:15:51.000 --> 1:15:54.360 but nothing happens in this story that we're living right now. 1:15:54.479 --> 1:15:57.479 Nothing happens in this reality we're living by action, like 1:15:57.600 --> 1:16:00.040 I just didn't meet you him by accident, like this 1:16:00.120 --> 1:16:02.680 didn't meet you by accident. Some people are there for 1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:06.360 a season. Some people are there for the whole duration 1:16:06.439 --> 1:16:08.400 of that book. However, long with he is, you know 1:16:08.920 --> 1:16:12.360 how long with hels. And we have to be able 1:16:12.920 --> 1:16:15.920 to recognize that, will be conscious of it that nothing 1:16:15.960 --> 1:16:19.519 is about mistake. Everything is part of a plan. For 1:16:19.640 --> 1:16:21.880 every failure, there's a lesson, not of You can't look 1:16:21.880 --> 1:16:24.000 at it as a failure. It's a lesson, you know 1:16:24.000 --> 1:16:25.680 what I mean, For every victory you have to look 1:16:25.720 --> 1:16:28.800 at and learn from. This is a continuous learning process, man. 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:31.519 And it's just amazing how everything works. It was a 1:16:31.520 --> 1:16:35.960 blessing man. And you know, Um, I told my mama. 1:16:36.800 --> 1:16:40.200 I told my mama and she was like, thank you Jesus, 1:16:40.680 --> 1:16:43.320 thank you Jesus. And I said, you know, I said, 1:16:43.400 --> 1:16:45.759 I said down, Yeah, that was it, you know, yeah, 1:16:45.960 --> 1:16:48.599 let's I forgive you. It fucked him up because I'm 1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:51.080 asking for his forgiveness, you know, you know what I'm saying. 1:16:51.400 --> 1:16:54.080 And he's I forgive you as I forgive you too. 1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:59.080 So we grew up together, you know you. But yeah, 1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:02.639 that's that's about it. And I spread the word for real, 1:17:02.840 --> 1:17:06.320 and I want to thank um. Thank you James for 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:08.160 having me with Thank you knowing for having me and 1:17:09.280 --> 1:17:14.120 on Gangs to chronicles, you know, and hopefully that something 1:17:14.120 --> 1:17:17.759 that I said will affect or reach you know, the viewers. 1:17:18.400 --> 1:17:22.280 I'm quite sure a lot of things you said would. Uh. 1:17:22.439 --> 1:17:25.960 I can't get my point across without them hearing your 1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:29.240 point and everybody else just sit at the table with 1:17:29.360 --> 1:17:34.160 their views and values on ready yet now and it's working. 1:17:34.920 --> 1:17:37.840 It's working. And I guarantee you this just just when running, 1:17:37.840 --> 1:17:42.080 this episode's gonna work, bro because a lot of good 1:17:42.080 --> 1:17:47.799 things came out of seventeen years. So people just gotta understand. 1:17:47.880 --> 1:17:51.200 We take these rides and they all mean something. Yeah, 1:17:51.520 --> 1:17:53.320 you know what I'm saying, But we just we just 1:17:53.360 --> 1:17:56.880 took those rides in different cards, but we arrived in 1:17:56.920 --> 1:18:00.320 the same motherfucker place. Man. We're trying to get back 1:18:00.320 --> 1:18:03.040 and trying to put a band aid on what we 1:18:03.520 --> 1:18:06.280 you know, what we show up, you know what I'm saying, 1:18:06.400 --> 1:18:11.280 and if we don't do that, we lost. So with 1:18:11.520 --> 1:18:14.640 us doing what we're doing, and man, I would I 1:18:14.720 --> 1:18:17.880 wish nothing but the best. And we got to do 1:18:17.920 --> 1:18:20.479 a part two here because it's so much to you 1:18:20.600 --> 1:18:23.800 that these cats realn't need to hear well. I'm just 1:18:23.840 --> 1:18:26.760 seeing the thing man, the dynamic that you too add Man. 1:18:27.680 --> 1:18:30.320 I really want a man like you guys need to 1:18:30.320 --> 1:18:34.240 go and road together. Let's do it. I'm pretty sure. Man, 1:18:34.240 --> 1:18:38.479 it's a lot of you know. I tell him I 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:41.320 love having conversations with him, man, because I can always 1:18:41.360 --> 1:18:43.840 tell him that he's an onion of me. It's like 1:18:43.880 --> 1:18:46.760 you peel back those layers. Man, you just like this 1:18:46.840 --> 1:18:49.320 dude is not that you think he was because C James. 1:18:49.720 --> 1:18:53.640 I think people get a certain impression of him and 1:18:53.640 --> 1:18:55.360 they think that's what it is. I'm saying, No, it's 1:18:55.400 --> 1:18:57.960 one of the people's brothers. I think you want me. 1:18:58.360 --> 1:19:00.280 I mean, we want to these people that you for me. 1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:02.920 You know what I'm saying. So don't so do yourself 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:04.960 a favorite, don't prea judge. You know what I mean 1:19:05.439 --> 1:19:08.600 that you're doing yourself with the service you so um 1:19:08.680 --> 1:19:13.240 um you know him and you James um again, man um, 1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:15.040 I could do it. I can't do it by myself. 1:19:15.800 --> 1:19:18.040 I really, I really want to thank both of you 1:19:18.080 --> 1:19:22.320 guys for having this, this podcast, this Gangster Chronicles. I 1:19:22.400 --> 1:19:25.080 really want to I really I really appreciate that and 1:19:25.080 --> 1:19:27.920 what you guys are transmitting for real is you gots 1:19:27.920 --> 1:19:32.000 are transmitting the bank keeping your palms down because you 1:19:32.000 --> 1:19:34.360 guys are helping a lot of people. Yes, there's a 1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:37.599 story that goes along with it, but it's the depth 1:19:37.640 --> 1:19:40.320 and way that you guys bring. And I want to 1:19:40.360 --> 1:19:44.400 say thank you because um, I'm a fan of gangster chronicles. 1:19:44.560 --> 1:19:47.960 I don't know, so you guys appreciate it, man, And 1:19:48.240 --> 1:19:50.000 that's the whole purpose of the story. And that's what 1:19:50.080 --> 1:19:52.920 I tell people, because you know, we talked to all 1:19:52.960 --> 1:19:54.920 the fans out there, so wherever you email, it comes 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:57.720 to you an answer. Man. Not tell them this is 1:19:57.760 --> 1:20:01.240 not glorification of it. Don't take the wrong stuff from 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:03.880 this is not here, you know, because they want to. 1:20:03.960 --> 1:20:05.639 You know, some of these people who watched this show, 1:20:05.640 --> 1:20:07.800 they want everything to be shooting my bang bang, and 1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:09.559 it's not about that. If that's all you get them 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:11.559 from it, then that men, either we're doing something wrong 1:20:11.880 --> 1:20:14.519 or your frequency is all right, you know what I mean. 1:20:14.600 --> 1:20:17.679 You need to open up a little bit more. Jill 1:20:17.760 --> 1:20:20.280 part to part to pick