Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I am Jeff Kirkshon, Dad, A
Speaker 1: player hit four home runs in one game. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get into that. It's been so crazy. A triple play
Speaker 1: that wasn't really a triple.
Speaker 2: Play, right, and we had a couple of wild walk
Speaker 2: offs in a couple of series. It was a bizarre weekend,
Speaker 2: Jet But I'm telling you every weekend of this season,
Speaker 2: every week of this season, has been totally bizarre to me.
Speaker 2: This is the jumping off point of the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five season. It has made absolutely no sense, and last
Speaker 2: weekend especially made no sense, which is again, Jem, this
Speaker 2: is why we do this show. This is why we
Speaker 2: cover baseball for a living, so we can slap our
Speaker 2: forehead and go, how did that happen? I've done it
Speaker 2: a hundred times this season, already a bunch of times
Speaker 2: this weekend.
Speaker 1: So before we dive into the weekend, in the take ways, Dad,
Speaker 1: we we screwed the pooch.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, ever, we have to take I'll take full
Speaker 2: blame for all of these.
Speaker 1: Go ahead said, we almost got canceled, and here's why.
Speaker 1: Last week on the show. We had mel Kiper the
Speaker 1: week of the NFL draft, right, and so we kind
Speaker 1: of did a little bit of a football theme here
Speaker 1: in the football offseason. And and Dad, you came up
Speaker 1: with a team Tim that involved the All Football Baseball Team.
Speaker 1: So these are the best players to play both sports.
Speaker 1: And well, we're just gonna say we left out the
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest two sport athletes.
Speaker 2: Of all time, right right, we left boj I left
Speaker 2: Bo Jackson off the All Football Baseball team when he
Speaker 2: is clearly the greatest combination of baseball and football that
Speaker 2: has ever played. I'm not sure how I did this, Jeff,
Speaker 2: but I got to the album fielders, and I've got
Speaker 2: Deonce Sanders and Brian Jordan and Jim Thorpe, and I
Speaker 2: thought Kirk Gibson, so I thought, well, I got enough outfielders.
Speaker 2: He just moved on, and I just moved on because
Speaker 2: I once you get three or four, you just say, right,
Speaker 2: that's enough. And I left off Bo Jackson. So we
Speaker 2: got a call from a very nice caller like, did
Speaker 2: Tim have a senior moment? Yes, Tim, at age sixty eight,
Speaker 2: has senior moments more often than he should. This is
Speaker 2: the worst one I've ever had, and I do these
Speaker 2: lists every week, and I'm not apologizing to anyone. These
Speaker 2: are pointless lists. They don't mean anything. However, this one
Speaker 2: one meant something and I got it completely wrong. The
Speaker 2: only other guy who's really called in to say, how
Speaker 2: could you leave this guy off? Was I left on
Speaker 2: the All Eclipse Team? I left Moonlight Graham off the
Speaker 2: All Eclipse Team. And a guy wrote tweeted to me,
Speaker 2: and he's right, how would you leave Moonlight Graham off
Speaker 2: the All Eclipsed team? He's right? Only the guy who
Speaker 2: wrote it about Bo Jackson was totally right. All I
Speaker 2: could say is I'm sorry, I'm sixty eight at a
Speaker 2: terrible mistake was terrible, omission was made.
Speaker 1: It's okay, Do you feel better now?
Speaker 2: Yes, it would be like leaving Seth Beer off the
Speaker 2: All Saint Patrick Steve. Thank god I got him right.
Speaker 1: Right, So we're glad that we could come on. It
Speaker 1: was frustrating that it was on a Thursday show and
Speaker 1: we didn't have until Tuesdays. I almost had our PR
Speaker 1: people on it as a nightmare. Jeff, look, I am
Speaker 1: laughing right now. But when you called to tell me,
Speaker 1: did we leave Bo Jackson?
Speaker 2: Off. I am not exaggerating, no sympathy required, but I
Speaker 2: had a sleepless night thinking how could I have forgotten
Speaker 2: the number one guy on the list? I would be
Speaker 2: like leaving Babe Ruth off the all time baseball player list.
Speaker 1: And can I just say, and this speaks volumes to
Speaker 1: the people who listen to this show, the members of
Speaker 1: our family, as we call it. Right, nobody messaged in
Speaker 1: and said how many are are you? That's what social
Speaker 1: media would do. Now, let it be known. I purposely
Speaker 1: did not put that list on social media as to
Speaker 1: save my dad's career.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: However, everybody who had messaged in was super polite and
Speaker 1: super cool about it, and we're glad that you're listening
Speaker 1: and paying attention that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I'm worried that they're really paying attention this much,
Speaker 2: because if I make another mistake, they're going to point
Speaker 2: it out. That was awful and I'm sorry, and it's
Speaker 2: not gonna happen again.
Speaker 1: We have another team, tim Dad. Hopefully you'll redeem yourself today.
Speaker 2: And this one's a surprise even for you, Joe. So
Speaker 2: I'm going to spring this on you at the end
Speaker 2: of the episode, and I'm going to tell you that
Speaker 2: eu Haanios Tuarez has something to do with it.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I mean, let's go right to the
Speaker 1: takeaway is great transition, dadus.
Speaker 2: So Euhanio Suarez hit four home runs in a game
Speaker 2: the other night. So he's the nineteenth player in Major
Speaker 2: league history to hit four home runs in one game.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind that Gary Sheffield, David or ti He's
Speaker 2: Raphael Palmarrow, all five hundred home run hitters never hit
Speaker 2: three in a game. This is the third three plus
Speaker 2: home run game of Suarez's career and his first, of course,
Speaker 2: four homer game. The last guy to hit four homers
Speaker 2: in a game was JD. Martinez, and he was also
Speaker 2: a member of the Diamondbacks, So the last two players
Speaker 2: who did this were members of the Diamondbacks. So Tory Leavello,
Speaker 2: the manager of the Diamondbacks, is the only manager to
Speaker 2: manage two players who hit four home runs in one game.
Speaker 2: Think about that for a second. So before JD. Martinez,
Speaker 2: the last guy to hit four homers in a game
Speaker 2: was Scooter Janette, who, by the way, he hit eighty
Speaker 2: seven homers in his career, but he hit four in
Speaker 2: one game and one of his teammates on the Reds
Speaker 2: that year was Uhanio Nel Juarez. So, as I told you, Jeff,
Speaker 2: I listened to this in higher game driving from home
Speaker 2: to Bristol to do baseball tonight, six hours in the car,
Speaker 2: listen to every pitch. Darren O'Day was doing the color
Speaker 2: on the radio for the Braves broadcast in a four
Speaker 2: homer game. He's great, by the way, Jeff, not good.
Speaker 2: He's great, and he's just started his broadcasting career. He
Speaker 2: was fantastic. But I didn't know this. The last guy
Speaker 2: before Scooter Janetta hit four homers in a game was
Speaker 2: Josh Hamilton. So after Suarez hit his fourth, Darren O'Day says, oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, I gave up Josh Hamilton's fourth home
Speaker 2: run of the game that night in Baltimore Way, How
Speaker 2: great is that? So here I'm driving up thinking like
Speaker 2: I've learned like a hundred things tonight, but I've forgotten
Speaker 2: that Darren O'Day had given up number four to Josh Hamilton.
Speaker 2: And now Darren O'Day is broadcasting a game in which
Speaker 2: Johanio Suarez hit his fourth, which is just incredible.
Speaker 1: Another wrinkle in this whole four homer takes right.
Speaker 2: There are so many wrinkles, so that homer gave him
Speaker 2: ten homers for the year he has he had nineteen hits,
Speaker 2: so over half of his hits or home runs. And
Speaker 2: also he's the third player to hit four homers in
Speaker 2: a game, yet his team lost ed Delahanty in the
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds, and Bob Horner hit four homers in a
Speaker 2: game in which their team lost. And I hope this
Speaker 2: means something, Jeff. But on the way to Bristol, it's
Speaker 2: a six hour ride and I have nothing else to do.
Speaker 2: I don't listen to music, but I listened to every
Speaker 2: game on the radio. Serius XM Radio's the greatest invention
Speaker 2: of my lifetime. But I'm thinking I'm driving them all
Speaker 2: by myself, of course, and I'm thinking I got to
Speaker 2: be able to name the nineteen guys off the top
Speaker 2: of my head who hit four home runs in a game.
Speaker 2: So I do pretty darn well because I used to
Speaker 2: have this list memorize. I have him tried it in
Speaker 2: a long time. But I got to eighteen and I
Speaker 2: couldn't come up with the nineteenth guy. So I considered,
Speaker 2: all right, I might have to cheat on this, but
Speaker 2: I got an hour left to go before Bristol, So
Speaker 2: I got one more hour, and I say, I'm not
Speaker 2: getting out of this car till I get this right. So, Jeff,
Speaker 2: if you're in a car and you want to cheat
Speaker 2: on a question or get information on a question, how
Speaker 2: do you do that in your car? Who do you call?
Speaker 1: I mean you call the Elias Fortunes?
Speaker 2: No? No, in your car? Like is there a button
Speaker 2: in your car that you can call to answer a question? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do Siri? Right, you ask siria question?
Speaker 2: So get this. I don't even know how to use sirious.
Speaker 1: Because well that was immediately where my head went. But
Speaker 1: I was assuming you had no clue how to do it.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do it. But get this, Jeff.
Speaker 2: And I find this to be the stupidest thing, maybe
Speaker 2: of my entire life. The nineteenth guy, the last guy
Speaker 2: I got was in nineteen forty eight, Pat Siri No
Speaker 2: hit four homers in a game?
Speaker 1: How about that? If I knew how to.
Speaker 2: Call Siri, I might have. But that's when I figured
Speaker 2: out who the nineteenth guy was. Was thinking about calling Siri,
Speaker 2: which I don't know how to do, And the answer
Speaker 2: was Pat Siris ee r e y.
Speaker 1: She would have said, my grandfather, Pat Siri.
Speaker 2: Jeff, this is the life that your dad leaves. I
Speaker 2: know he's driving six hours in the middle of the
Speaker 2: night to get to work, and all he can think
Speaker 2: about is can I name all nineteen guys? This is
Speaker 2: a challenge I put myself through and I got him
Speaker 2: right with a little help from Siri, Pat Serri, Pat Siri.
Speaker 1: What other takeaways you got for us?
Speaker 2: Okay, Jeff, So the Tigers are really good. I told
Speaker 2: you I saw them in the playoffs last year, got
Speaker 2: a really good look at them, and through Sunday they're
Speaker 2: eighteen and ten. Now. Last year, Jeff, they won in
Speaker 2: part because they had Trek Scuble, the best pitcher in
Speaker 2: the American League, and as aj Hinch, the managers say,
Speaker 2: we're Trek Schuble and then we're chaos, like we don't
Speaker 2: even know who's starting next game or the game after that. Well,
Speaker 2: now they've got their rotation straight out. Casey Mies, once
Speaker 2: one of the best pitching prospects in baseball, has found
Speaker 2: it after a bunch of injuries. He's four and one
Speaker 2: two point one two er. Jack Flaherty is in the
Speaker 2: rotation so this tremendous, you know, weakness they had after
Speaker 2: their start, after their a starter is no longer a weakness.
Speaker 2: I really like what I see from the Tigers spots
Speaker 2: plus Spencer Torklsen, their big first baseman is having a
Speaker 2: very good year. Remember overall number one pick in the country,
Speaker 2: Spencer Torklsen, and he struggled terribly and the and the
Speaker 2: Tiger sent him to the minor leagues last year, and
Speaker 2: he fixed his swing, and he came back and hit
Speaker 2: last year and has hit all of this year. And
Speaker 2: the takeaway there is that aj Hinch told me he's
Speaker 2: such a good manager. He's such a great feel with people.
Speaker 2: He told me he called Spencer Torkelsen every day during
Speaker 2: his minor league stay last year just to make sure
Speaker 2: to see how he's doing and make sure, Look, you're
Speaker 2: a part of our team. We just got to get
Speaker 2: you straight out.
Speaker 1: Just looking out for you.
Speaker 2: Does that tell you something about the manager? And if
Speaker 2: you're a player and your guy calls you every day,
Speaker 2: do you not think I gotta do my best for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you got to think too, Hey, this is temporary,
Speaker 1: so let me fix out the kinks and get going.
Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great manager. It's a great boss.
Speaker 2: Of course. That goes for any any industry that you're in. Right, Okay,
Speaker 2: The Yankees, at least for the moment, have changed their
Speaker 2: closer to Luke Weaver, who's great, not good. Great. He
Speaker 2: was tremendous last year when he finally developed his perfect
Speaker 2: change up, which changed the entire arc of his career.
Speaker 2: But Devin Williams is out. Williams is a great pitcher.
Speaker 2: He has the best change up in baseball. Last year
Speaker 2: he gave up three runs in twenty two appearances, and
Speaker 2: then he gave up three runs in back to back
Speaker 2: appearances this year for the Yankees, and they just have
Speaker 2: to give him another role in the bullpen until he
Speaker 2: gets it straightened out. I told you I wrote a
Speaker 2: story on the change up, most important pitch in baseball,
Speaker 2: And if you lose the field for the change up,
Speaker 2: it becomes like an eighty four by all hour fastball,
Speaker 2: and they know it's coming, then that's a BP fastball
Speaker 2: and you're in a lot of trouble. That's what's happened
Speaker 2: to Devin Williams. But it's gonna change. He'll be the
Speaker 2: closer before the season's over, and if Luke Weaver is
Speaker 2: your setup guy, you're in pretty darn good shape. Lastly,
Speaker 2: you talked about the triple play that wasn't a triple play.
Speaker 2: So Saturday in the Nationals game, an amazing three game, well,
Speaker 2: an amazing weekend series met there was a line drive
Speaker 2: hit too, Nathaniel Lowe, the first basemen, two guys on,
Speaker 2: nobody out and it looked like it short hopped him.
Speaker 2: They called it a catch. The runners were running and
Speaker 2: so it really wasn't a triple play. But the umpire's
Speaker 2: upheld the call because there is no replay on balls
Speaker 2: that don't leave the infield, and the Jeff look, we're
Speaker 2: big on pire guys. We're not here to slam anybody,
Speaker 2: but why is there not Why are you not allowed
Speaker 2: to review a ball that doesn't leave the infield? That
Speaker 2: ball needed to be reviewed, That ball was not caught.
Speaker 2: That is not a triple play, but it was so
Speaker 2: bang bang. That's where replay really comes in Handy, am
Speaker 2: I wrong about this?
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. And we've seen this for
Speaker 1: years in the NFL. You know, they're like, well that's
Speaker 1: not reviewable though, and it's like, well, clearly that was
Speaker 1: there wasn't a catch or whatever it might be. So
Speaker 1: these rules, I mean, I look at it as that
Speaker 1: if we're gonna have replay, might as well just have
Speaker 1: replay and do it right.
Speaker 2: We might as replay everything except for balls and strikes,
Speaker 2: which we're gonna be doing sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: Yes, what do you got for Quirk Gins, These are
Speaker 1: the best parts of the game that we love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So we talked about some of the crazy walkoffs.
Speaker 2: So Friday night and Nationals Park, we just talked about
Speaker 2: what an amazing weekend series that was against the Mets.
Speaker 2: Friday Night. Cj Abrams, who can really run, is on
Speaker 2: first base, three to two count, two outs, ninth inning
Speaker 2: and he's running on a three to two pitch. James
Speaker 2: Wood hits a single up the middle, and cj Abrams
Speaker 2: scores from first base on a walk off single. Now
Speaker 2: does that sound odd to you? Ye?
Speaker 1: Very strange.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm surprised, I asked Frank from the Elias. Last
Speaker 2: time it happened. It was in twenty twenty one. Miguel really, yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought it would be before that. Miguel Cabrera singled
Speaker 2: up the middle or singled and Jonathan Scope scored from
Speaker 2: first base with a walk off single that scored a
Speaker 2: runner from first. So it's been almost five years since
Speaker 2: that happened. I thought it would have been longer.
Speaker 1: Now, do you. I mean, I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into the fine tuning of scoring, but at a certain point, well,
Speaker 1: maybe if he's running on the pitch, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think about. Maybe maybe the guy who hit the ball
Speaker 1: didn't want to risk getting out at second, right, so
Speaker 1: he didn't want to stretch what would have been a
Speaker 1: double into a double and just said I'm going to
Speaker 1: say it at first because there's no point of me
Speaker 1: being on second because if it's fresh and no, that's
Speaker 1: part of it, Jeff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: In that situation, the runner getting to second with two
Speaker 2: outs is irrelevant, right, And if you get out at all, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's a fireable offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, now I'm trying to justify. Okay, maybe it
Speaker 1: does make more sense that guys are hitting singles, Okay.
Speaker 2: The other walk off was Sunday in San Francisco. Elliott
Speaker 2: Ramos of the Giants high score two to two against
Speaker 2: the Rangers. He singles and an infield hit and the
Speaker 2: balls thrown all over the field, and it's what we
Speaker 2: called jeff a little league home run. That he's got
Speaker 2: a single and errors brought him the rest of the
Speaker 2: way home, so it goes as a walk off single,
Speaker 2: even though he didn't drive anybody in. But the game
Speaker 2: ended on a single, which is the single that he hit.
Speaker 2: So I asked again Frank from the Elias, when's the
Speaker 2: last time a game ended quite like that? And to
Speaker 2: my astonishment, a game ended like that last year when
Speaker 2: Josh Young of the Rangers had a hit that scored
Speaker 2: a run and then an error ended up scoring him
Speaker 2: the batter runner with the winning run. And Josh Young
Speaker 2: was also a player in that game yesterday as Sunday
Speaker 2: against the Giants, So the last two times that happened,
Speaker 2: Josh Young was involved in the plays.
Speaker 1: Maybe we got to talk to our friends, a game
Speaker 1: changer of how the moms and dads are scoring that,
Speaker 1: because if you're under thirteen, that's a home run, right?
Speaker 1: And I say that because I think my only career
Speaker 1: triple in little league was an error filled single, really right,
Speaker 1: probably just an error filled error. I don't even think
Speaker 1: I reached Jeff.
Speaker 2: You were a better player than you gave yourself credit for.
Speaker 2: All right, So Brenton Doyle of the Rockies struck out
Speaker 2: four times out of the leadoff spot the other day.
Speaker 2: So that marks the ninth time this year that a
Speaker 2: leadoff hitter has struck out four times or more in
Speaker 2: a game. That's the most ever before the month of May.
Speaker 2: And I keep telling you this, Jeff, because the lead
Speaker 2: opposition has changed so much in baseball, it doesn't make
Speaker 2: any sense anymore. We put Aaron Judge, we put shohe Otani,
Speaker 2: we put Kyle Schwarber, we put Austin Wells, We put
Speaker 2: almost anybody in the leadoff spot to get more at bats.
Speaker 2: But the leadoff spot used to be the pixie little
Speaker 2: second baseman who put the ball in play, didn't strike out,
Speaker 2: could run. Those days are over, and this statistic certainly
Speaker 2: proves that out. So Austin Wins. We told you the
Speaker 2: other day he was one of that eight to nine
Speaker 2: group that you drove in fourteen runs in one game.
Speaker 2: So Austin Wins, backup catcher for the Reds, in consecutive games,
Speaker 2: not back to back games, but consecutive games for him,
Speaker 2: had eight hits and nine RBIs and he's like a
Speaker 2: bottom of the order hitter, the backup catcher for the Reds.
Speaker 2: So he tied the Reds franchise record for most hits
Speaker 2: and most are in consecutive starts, so you know the
Speaker 2: rich history of the Reds. He tied a record with record.
Speaker 2: I don't even know who holds those records, but Johnny Bench,
Speaker 2: George Foster, Frank Robinson, all these guys, these great players
Speaker 2: played for the Reds. And now Austin Wins is in
Speaker 2: that group.
Speaker 1: He is a part of some real royalty in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Writer, and we love it all right. Last thing, Jeff,
Speaker 2: So Saturday night, I got a kick out of this.
Speaker 2: The Mariners beat the Marlins fourteen to nothing. Anytime there's
Speaker 2: a fourteen to nothing scores, somebody says, oh, there was
Speaker 2: a football game that happened on Friday on Saturday night
Speaker 2: in Seattle. So just take a guess for me, Jeff,
Speaker 2: do you think there was a fourteen to nothing game
Speaker 2: in the NFL last year?
Speaker 1: My guess would be, well, the Browns did play last year.
Speaker 1: And I can make that joke because I lived in
Speaker 1: Cleveland for three years. Three years I lived in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: They won one game.
Speaker 2: Really yeah.
Speaker 1: I went to eleven Browns home games, oh and eleven
Speaker 1: really yeah.
Speaker 2: So, Jeff, wherever you go winning follows. You went to
Speaker 2: Cleveland and the Cabs won. You went to Cleveland and
Speaker 2: the Indians went.
Speaker 1: To the World Series, went to Vegas when the Golden
Speaker 1: Knights went to the Stanley Cup Final and then won
Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Final. Years later, then I moved to Philly. Right,
Speaker 1: and in the first year I live here in Philly,
Speaker 1: Philly to miracle comeback in twenty twenty two to make
Speaker 1: it to the World Series. Then the Eagles go to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Later a couple of years win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So right, didn't someone from Portland, some average some fan
Speaker 2: call you and say, Jeff, can you please move to Portland?
Speaker 2: We need we need some help.
Speaker 1: I've had three different cities friends of mine contact me,
Speaker 1: Portland and Buffalo and Miami. Now I didn't feel as
Speaker 1: bad about Miami. You had all those championships with Lebron
Speaker 1: But Portland and Buffalo could use some Jeff Kirkshond magic
Speaker 1: on the radio.
Speaker 2: I guess, well, so, Jeff. The last NFL football game
Speaker 2: that ended fourteen to nothing was in two thousand and eight. Wow,
Speaker 2: eight two thousand and eight, and get this, the Bengals
Speaker 2: beat the Browns fourteen to nothing.
Speaker 1: Wow. That is beautiful. That is so beautiful.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: And that is our quirk gins coming up next here
Speaker 1: shortly on is this a great game? Or what we're
Speaker 1: gonna get that mysterious team tim hoping to redemption, get
Speaker 1: a redemption there for my dad, redemption.
Speaker 2: Irredeemable Jeff. After the Bojacks of the state.
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna unrelate them because there's nothing we can
Speaker 1: do to win you back. But we've got that. We've
Speaker 1: got an on the state in baseball history.
Speaker 2: Dad.
Speaker 1: And then my intern and my full time job asked
Speaker 1: me a question. That's going to be our kirkhon quandary.
Speaker 1: That's all coming up next on this is a great
Speaker 1: game or what? All right, Dad, let's jump right into.
Speaker 2: On this date in baseball history, right, So, on this
Speaker 2: date in nineteen eighty six, Roger Clemens struck out twenty
Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners in one game. So he's the first pitcher
Speaker 2: ever to strike out twenty in a nine inning game.
Speaker 2: Tom Cheney holds the record with twenty one strikeouts, but
Speaker 2: that was in extra innings. So Roger Clemens strikes out twenty.
Speaker 2: By the way, ten years later he had another twenty
Speaker 2: strikeout games. So he had two twenty strikeout games and
Speaker 2: they were ten years apart. So if you wonder how
Speaker 2: great Roger Clemens was, all you got to do is
Speaker 2: know that note. So a week later, the Red Sox
Speaker 2: are in Seattle to face the Mariners again, and he's
Speaker 2: doing a radio interview like the day before his start,
Speaker 2: and the poor guy interviewing him got a little bit
Speaker 2: confused and said to him, Roger, the last time you
Speaker 2: faced the Mariners, you struck out thirty. So Roger, to
Speaker 2: his eternal credit, very politely said well, actually it was
Speaker 2: only twenty. And the poor radio guy pats him on
Speaker 2: the back and goes, well, maybe thirty the next time,
Speaker 2: do which, like the people, I'm sure the people in
Speaker 2: the broadcast booth said, great recovery there, whereas I think
Speaker 2: Roger had every ride to say, yeah, I'm gonna pitch
Speaker 2: ten innings and strike out everyone everywhere everyone. That's so
Speaker 2: that was the last. That was April twenty ninth, nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty six, and a little closer to home for me,
Speaker 2: Jeff on April twenty ninth, nineteen eighty eight. That was
Speaker 2: the night that the Orioles won their first game of
Speaker 2: the season. Remember the eighty eight Orioles started out oh
Speaker 2: and twenty one. Yeah, and I was the beat writer
Speaker 2: for the Baltimore Sun. I covered every one of those losses.
Speaker 2: And the first game they finally won was a Friday
Speaker 2: night at then Comiski Park. They beat the White Sox
Speaker 2: nine to nothing. Mark Williamson and Dave Schmidt combined on
Speaker 2: the shutout and Eddie Murray, hall of Famer, hit a
Speaker 2: home run in the first inning to give them the lead.
Speaker 2: Cal Ripken, hall of Famer, had four hits in that game.
Speaker 2: And it just amazes me. They had two Hall of
Speaker 2: Famers on that team, not their fault, and they lost
Speaker 2: twenty one consecutive games. They'll never forget being in Frank
Speaker 2: Robinson's office after the game and the phone rang in
Speaker 2: there and he picked it up and he goes, yes,
Speaker 2: mister President, like he was joking that the President of
Speaker 2: the United States had called him to congratulate him. But
Speaker 2: as you know the storage, you have to be right.
Speaker 2: The President had called him during the winnings the losing
Speaker 2: streak to offer some sort of support to which it's
Speaker 2: a long story which I've told fifty times. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to tell it again. But the President called Frank
Speaker 2: Robinson and said to Frank after the lost number eighteen
Speaker 2: in a row, Frank, I know what you're going through.
Speaker 2: And Frank said, mister President, you got no idea what
Speaker 2: I'm going through. Well, that was the night that the
Speaker 2: streak ended, April twenty ninth, nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1: That's on this state in baseball history.
Speaker 2: Dad.
Speaker 1: I thought I could kind of surprise you here today.
Speaker 1: So I'm a country music morning show host in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Our show's played in Boston and Las Vegas. And this
Speaker 1: morning my intern walks into my office after the show
Speaker 1: and he says, hey, I.
Speaker 2: Got a question for you.
Speaker 1: They going, okay, yeah, what can I do to help?
Speaker 1: How can I help you? I'm helping him learn how
Speaker 1: to edit video and do some other stuff. Our intern
Speaker 1: looks at me and he goes, I think one hundred
Speaker 1: men could kill a gorilla. I said, excuse me, and
Speaker 1: he goes, I'm sorry. I just me and my buddies
Speaker 1: are texting about this, and I think it's ridiculous. I
Speaker 1: don't think one hundred men could kill a gorilla. So
Speaker 1: we we sat there and talked about it, and I thought,
Speaker 1: this is perfect for a Kirchen quandary. One hundred men,
Speaker 1: no weapons, just men against one gorilla. Dad. Do you
Speaker 1: think one hundred men and they are allowed to plan before,
Speaker 1: they're allowed to get together, one hundred men and make
Speaker 1: a plan. If if a hundred men can figure out
Speaker 1: anything together, then yeah, they'll do that. Do you think
Speaker 1: who wins?
Speaker 2: Where? Where is the where is the fight taking place?
Speaker 1: Is this cage match?
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it in a cage? Is it a
Speaker 2: jungle or what?
Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, it's not just open ground.
Speaker 2: Just all right, all right, it's on a football field.
Speaker 2: Never mind, it's a football field. All right. This is
Speaker 2: the stupidest hypothetical I've ever heard. Can can get a
Speaker 2: man killed? A charging tiger with a chainsaw? Was the
Speaker 2: previous dubbest thing I've ever heard. But I love that.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: All right. I'm gonna say that the hundred men strategically
Speaker 2: could figure out a way to kill them. How much
Speaker 2: is one hundred men weigh?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you say the average let's let's take
Speaker 1: an average weight one hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 2: Two hundred pounds we need. We need one hundred two
Speaker 2: hundred pounds men.
Speaker 1: So you and Iron we're not in this, okay, So
Speaker 1: two hundred pound yeah, I mean that's that's two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand pounds of man, all right?
Speaker 2: If they charge all at the same time, could they knock?
Speaker 2: Could they could? Yes, they could knock them to the ground.
Speaker 2: How do you how do you kill a gorilla? Though?
Speaker 2: Do you hit him in the head?
Speaker 1: I think it's just I think you just have to
Speaker 1: suffocate him. Just put a hundred men on top of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, the first ten men are gonna totally.
Speaker 2: Be dead, but well maybe the first fifty men. But
Speaker 2: then now we're down to oh, now we're down to
Speaker 2: can fifty men kill? All right? I'm gonna say one
Speaker 2: hundred men could somehow, given that their lives are at stake,
Speaker 2: one hundred men could figure out how to kill one gorilla.
Speaker 1: It may be the dumbest Kirkhon quandary because it has
Speaker 1: no importance to anything we're talking about, nor does it
Speaker 1: have any theme to it. Usually we theme it out,
Speaker 1: you know, could you beat Tiger Woods had one hundred year?
Speaker 2: Usually there's a hook. Jeff there's no there's no hook
Speaker 2: for a curiate intern. Now, speaking of the stupidest Jeb, Now,
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you the stupidest team, Tim of
Speaker 2: all time. I did this in hopes of redemption, as
Speaker 2: you said, for leaving Bo Jackson off the All UH
Speaker 2: baseball football team. Okay, so I'm just going to start
Speaker 2: to read this, and I want you to tell me
Speaker 2: when you understand where I'm going with this. Do you
Speaker 2: remember my clue? And it's a.
Speaker 1: Big I got your clue. You don't need to give
Speaker 1: me any more clues.
Speaker 2: First basement is Vinnie Pascotino. The second basement.
Speaker 1: All of the players have all of the vowels.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you cheated. You looked at you dare
Speaker 2: you did?
Speaker 1: Dad? You are the least subtle at clues. What is what?
Speaker 1: All right? All right? You told me about Hano was
Speaker 1: going to be in it, so I know our thing.
Speaker 1: I brought up to you last week that olmar Viscal
Speaker 1: also is he the shortstop? So I mean, listen, Dad,
Speaker 1: I didn't I wish I could have let you just
Speaker 1: go through, and you should go through your team.
Speaker 2: Tim.
Speaker 1: I will let you do it, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: prove to you one that your your clues subtlety, as
Speaker 1: subtle as a sledgehammer.
Speaker 2: Dad. But all right, I'm sorry that I insulted you, Jeff,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 1: As soon as I heard the first one, I knew
Speaker 1: what I was looking for, and I Vinnie. I was like,
Speaker 1: and then when you hit me.
Speaker 2: Vinnie Pascuatino, that was pretty okay. I'm sorry, all right,
Speaker 2: kill v O Varus is the second baseman, marvisal shortstop,
Speaker 2: and you Haneo Suarez is the third base.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. I'm only interrupting because
Speaker 1: this is genuinely a pet peeve, or is it not?
Speaker 1: When you're listing out players, right, who plays first? Second?
Speaker 2: There's you could go shortstop, then third. Well, it's the
Speaker 2: third thing. What I'm saying, third shortstop because if you're
Speaker 2: going to do three, four, five, six the third base.
Speaker 1: Do you do it by the scorer's book right exactly
Speaker 1: what you're saying, or or the position? Do you if
Speaker 1: you don't have a preference either way. I'm just genuinely asking.
Speaker 2: I usually go I usually go third basement first and
Speaker 2: then the shortstop, but a lot of times I switch around.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a correct answer. Okay, but I
Speaker 2: just Jeff, you're starting to think like I didn't want
Speaker 2: to commit a starting to really worry me.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to commit a crime. Like when Mark
Speaker 1: Simon reached out to me and said, I said, the MLB,
Speaker 1: I mean pretty much he deleted my number after.
Speaker 2: That, The NFL, the NBA.
Speaker 1: It all makes sense.
Speaker 2: And it's MLB, not them, the big League. It's the
Speaker 2: big League, like the Major League Baseball. Okay, outfield moist
Speaker 2: is salou.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Jack Fournier, who led the Major led his league in
Speaker 2: home runs. He's the only guy to lead his league
Speaker 2: in home runs with all the vowels in his last
Speaker 2: name or in both names. So if if Janio Suarez does,
Speaker 2: he'll become the second one Carlos Quinton most home runs
Speaker 2: ever by someone whose last name begins with a Q.
Speaker 2: And our catcher. I had to look this one up.
Speaker 2: Julio Moscaro, which he played in the last twenty years,
Speaker 2: but I frankly don't remember him. Played for Toronto very
Speaker 2: very well.
Speaker 1: Where do you even start when you need to cull? Look?
Speaker 1: What do you type in?
Speaker 2: Right? Well? I did this yesterday and I just typed
Speaker 2: in in my Encyclopedia online q U. There were one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy seven players q U, so because you
Speaker 2: is usually the hardest one, so I didn't go through
Speaker 2: all the names, but I started with qu and this
Speaker 2: was the list I came up with. And my two pictures.
Speaker 2: And you know you're not allowed to use the same
Speaker 2: name twice because it's cheating, but we have two pictures
Speaker 2: with the same Nelson and Ed Figueroa. Is what is
Speaker 2: the significance of Figueroa?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Help me here.
Speaker 2: It has all of them right, Oh yeah, in the
Speaker 2: in the last name right, yeah, now, I'm sure. I'm sure. David. First,
Speaker 2: this is gonna call us and tell us about other
Speaker 2: guys who have all the vowels in their last name.
Speaker 2: But I know that Ed and Nelson Figueroa have all
Speaker 2: the vowels in their last name. And that's why they're
Speaker 2: the two pictures on our team.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. That's our team. Tim redemption round, Dad, I
Speaker 1: gotta say I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2: I'm still like, I'm still hurting inside from bo Jackson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we had the largest amount of unsubscribers,
Speaker 1: and I'm just kidding. Don't don't worry.
Speaker 2: We laugh and we learn on the show, and I
Speaker 2: learned a lesson. Don't don't just get to three outfielders
Speaker 2: of move on.
Speaker 1: Move on, make sure we're not missing anybody. Hey, So
Speaker 1: tomorrow the podcast will feature an interview with Steve Sparks.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you right now, I personally, if
Speaker 1: you're like me, I didn't know much about Steve Sparks
Speaker 1: right new his former major leaguer, spent some time in
Speaker 1: the miners. Now he's a broadcaster for the Astros. That's
Speaker 1: pretty much it. So when you bring in a heavy
Speaker 1: hitter like a Coward Ken Jr. Or Johnny Bench right,
Speaker 1: I get nervous, I get excited, right and we know
Speaker 1: more or less what to expect from that person. Steve
Speaker 1: Sparks completely blew me away.
Speaker 2: We laughed, we cried.
Speaker 1: It was such a fun time, and he taught us
Speaker 1: a bunch of things. He did, he did. I cannot
Speaker 1: recommend enough. Don't look at the feed tomorrow and think, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with him. I haven't heard of him.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: Just listen, I promise you you will be entertained the
Speaker 1: entire time.
Speaker 2: Yeh. When I talk to young students about becoming a
Speaker 2: journalist broadcaster and they say what should I be looking for?
Speaker 2: I tell them all, just be curious, keep your eyes open,
Speaker 2: keep your ears open. That's what Steve Sparks does as
Speaker 2: well as certainly any former player that I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: And he's right on the top of the list of
Speaker 2: people who think outside the box on stuff. And he'
Speaker 2: said at the edge of our interview, he said, I'm
Speaker 2: hoping to become a seamhead, and I'm thinking hoping to
Speaker 2: become a seam ed. You're one of the captains of
Speaker 2: the All Seamed team already, and you're a former player.
Speaker 2: That's the separator for Steve spart not to mention that he.
Speaker 1: Is a member of the family. I mean he listened.
Speaker 1: The amount of recall he had for episodes this or
Speaker 1: last season was unbelievable, which is so flattering.
Speaker 2: Dad.
Speaker 1: That's something our guests do not need to listen. We
Speaker 1: don't need, you know. Gosh, it's like trying to even
Speaker 1: handcuff your wife, my mom to listen to one episode
Speaker 1: is difficult. But that was a really cool moment, right
Speaker 1: and when I saw him in Minneapolis earlier this year
Speaker 1: for radio game.
Speaker 2: We came up to be it just said poor Popa
Speaker 2: and I went, oh my gosh, Steve, you've been watching
Speaker 2: way too much.
Speaker 1: You're part of the family, and so are you. We
Speaker 1: love doing this show.
Speaker 2: We do it for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for listening,
Speaker 1: and as always, thank you so much for being a
Speaker 1: part of our family.