WEBVTT - The 4th Be With Eugenio

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a great game or what with the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I am Jeff Kirkshon, Dad, A

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<v Speaker 1>player hit four home runs in one game. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get into that. It's been so crazy. A triple play

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't really a triple.

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<v Speaker 2>Play, right, and we had a couple of wild walk

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<v Speaker 2>offs in a couple of series. It was a bizarre weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>Jet But I'm telling you every weekend of this season,

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<v Speaker 2>every week of this season, has been totally bizarre to me.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the jumping off point of the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five season. It has made absolutely no sense, and last

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<v Speaker 2>weekend especially made no sense, which is again, Jem, this

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<v Speaker 2>is why we do this show. This is why we

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<v Speaker 2>cover baseball for a living, so we can slap our

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<v Speaker 2>forehead and go, how did that happen? I've done it

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred times this season, already a bunch of times

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we dive into the weekend, in the take ways, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>we we screwed the pooch.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, ever, we have to take I'll take full

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<v Speaker 2>blame for all of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead said, we almost got canceled, and here's why.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week on the show. We had mel Kiper the

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<v Speaker 1>week of the NFL draft, right, and so we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of did a little bit of a football theme here

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<v Speaker 1>in the football offseason. And and Dad, you came up

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<v Speaker 1>with a team Tim that involved the All Football Baseball Team.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are the best players to play both sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, we're just gonna say we left out the

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the greatest two sport athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>Of all time, right right, we left boj I left

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<v Speaker 2>Bo Jackson off the All Football Baseball team when he

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<v Speaker 2>is clearly the greatest combination of baseball and football that

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<v Speaker 2>has ever played. I'm not sure how I did this, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got to the album fielders, and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>Deonce Sanders and Brian Jordan and Jim Thorpe, and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought Kirk Gibson, so I thought, well, I got enough outfielders.

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<v Speaker 2>He just moved on, and I just moved on because

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<v Speaker 2>I once you get three or four, you just say, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's enough. And I left off Bo Jackson. So we

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<v Speaker 2>got a call from a very nice caller like, did

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<v Speaker 2>Tim have a senior moment? Yes, Tim, at age sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>has senior moments more often than he should. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the worst one I've ever had, and I do these

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<v Speaker 2>lists every week, and I'm not apologizing to anyone. These

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<v Speaker 2>are pointless lists. They don't mean anything. However, this one

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<v Speaker 2>one meant something and I got it completely wrong. The

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<v Speaker 2>only other guy who's really called in to say, how

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<v Speaker 2>could you leave this guy off? Was I left on

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<v Speaker 2>the All Eclipse Team? I left Moonlight Graham off the

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<v Speaker 2>All Eclipse Team. And a guy wrote tweeted to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's right, how would you leave Moonlight Graham off

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<v Speaker 2>the All Eclipsed team? He's right? Only the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>wrote it about Bo Jackson was totally right. All I

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<v Speaker 2>could say is I'm sorry, I'm sixty eight at a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible mistake was terrible, omission was made.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, Do you feel better now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it would be like leaving Seth Beer off the

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<v Speaker 2>All Saint Patrick Steve. Thank god I got him right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So we're glad that we could come on. It

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<v Speaker 1>was frustrating that it was on a Thursday show and

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have until Tuesdays. I almost had our PR

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<v Speaker 1>people on it as a nightmare. Jeff, look, I am

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<v Speaker 1>laughing right now. But when you called to tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>did we leave Bo Jackson?

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<v Speaker 2>Off. I am not exaggerating, no sympathy required, but I

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<v Speaker 2>had a sleepless night thinking how could I have forgotten

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<v Speaker 2>the number one guy on the list? I would be

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<v Speaker 2>like leaving Babe Ruth off the all time baseball player list.

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<v Speaker 1>And can I just say, and this speaks volumes to

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<v Speaker 1>the people who listen to this show, the members of

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<v Speaker 1>our family, as we call it. Right, nobody messaged in

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<v Speaker 1>and said how many are are you? That's what social

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<v Speaker 1>media would do. Now, let it be known. I purposely

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<v Speaker 1>did not put that list on social media as to

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<v Speaker 1>save my dad's career.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>However, everybody who had messaged in was super polite and

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<v Speaker 1>super cool about it, and we're glad that you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>and paying attention that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now I'm worried that they're really paying attention this much,

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<v Speaker 2>because if I make another mistake, they're going to point

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<v Speaker 2>it out. That was awful and I'm sorry, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>We have another team, tim Dad. Hopefully you'll redeem yourself today.

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<v Speaker 2>And this one's a surprise even for you, Joe. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to spring this on you at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the episode, and I'm going to tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>eu Haanios Tuarez has something to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, I mean, let's go right to the

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<v Speaker 1>takeaway is great transition, dadus.

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<v Speaker 2>So Euhanio Suarez hit four home runs in a game

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<v Speaker 2>the other night. So he's the nineteenth player in Major

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<v Speaker 2>league history to hit four home runs in one game.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep in mind that Gary Sheffield, David or ti He's

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<v Speaker 2>Raphael Palmarrow, all five hundred home run hitters never hit

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<v Speaker 2>three in a game. This is the third three plus

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<v Speaker 2>home run game of Suarez's career and his first, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>four homer game. The last guy to hit four homers

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<v Speaker 2>in a game was JD. Martinez, and he was also

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<v Speaker 2>a member of the Diamondbacks, So the last two players

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<v Speaker 2>who did this were members of the Diamondbacks. So Tory Leavello,

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<v Speaker 2>the manager of the Diamondbacks, is the only manager to

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<v Speaker 2>manage two players who hit four home runs in one game.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that for a second. So before JD. Martinez,

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<v Speaker 2>the last guy to hit four homers in a game

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<v Speaker 2>was Scooter Janette, who, by the way, he hit eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven homers in his career, but he hit four in

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<v Speaker 2>one game and one of his teammates on the Reds

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<v Speaker 2>that year was Uhanio Nel Juarez. So, as I told you, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to this in higher game driving from home

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<v Speaker 2>to Bristol to do baseball tonight, six hours in the car,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to every pitch. Darren O'Day was doing the color

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<v Speaker 2>on the radio for the Braves broadcast in a four

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<v Speaker 2>homer game. He's great, by the way, Jeff, not good.

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<v Speaker 2>He's great, and he's just started his broadcasting career. He

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<v Speaker 2>was fantastic. But I didn't know this. The last guy

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<v Speaker 2>before Scooter Janetta hit four homers in a game was

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Hamilton. So after Suarez hit his fourth, Darren O'Day says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I gave up Josh Hamilton's fourth home

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<v Speaker 2>run of the game that night in Baltimore Way, How

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<v Speaker 2>great is that? So here I'm driving up thinking like

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned like a hundred things tonight, but I've forgotten

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<v Speaker 2>that Darren O'Day had given up number four to Josh Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 2>And now Darren O'Day is broadcasting a game in which

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<v Speaker 2>Johanio Suarez hit his fourth, which is just incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Another wrinkle in this whole four homer takes right.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many wrinkles, so that homer gave him

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<v Speaker 2>ten homers for the year he has he had nineteen hits,

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<v Speaker 2>so over half of his hits or home runs. And

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<v Speaker 2>also he's the third player to hit four homers in

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<v Speaker 2>a game, yet his team lost ed Delahanty in the

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundreds, and Bob Horner hit four homers in a

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<v Speaker 2>game in which their team lost. And I hope this

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<v Speaker 2>means something, Jeff. But on the way to Bristol, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a six hour ride and I have nothing else to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't listen to music, but I listened to every

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<v Speaker 2>game on the radio. Serius XM Radio's the greatest invention

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<v Speaker 2>of my lifetime. But I'm thinking I'm driving them all

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<v Speaker 2>by myself, of course, and I'm thinking I got to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to name the nineteen guys off the top

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<v Speaker 2>of my head who hit four home runs in a game.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do pretty darn well because I used to

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<v Speaker 2>have this list memorize. I have him tried it in

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. But I got to eighteen and I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't come up with the nineteenth guy. So I considered,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I might have to cheat on this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I got an hour left to go before Bristol, So

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<v Speaker 2>I got one more hour, and I say, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>getting out of this car till I get this right. So, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in a car and you want to cheat

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<v Speaker 2>on a question or get information on a question, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you do that in your car? Who do you call?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you call the Elias Fortunes?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, in your car? Like is there a button

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<v Speaker 2>in your car that you can call to answer a question? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could do Siri? Right, you ask siria question?

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<v Speaker 2>So get this. I don't even know how to use sirious.

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<v Speaker 1>Because well that was immediately where my head went. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was assuming you had no clue how to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to do it. But get this, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I find this to be the stupidest thing, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>of my entire life. The nineteenth guy, the last guy

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<v Speaker 2>I got was in nineteen forty eight, Pat Siri No

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<v Speaker 2>hit four homers in a game?

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? If I knew how to.

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<v Speaker 2>Call Siri, I might have. But that's when I figured

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<v Speaker 2>out who the nineteenth guy was. Was thinking about calling Siri,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't know how to do, And the answer

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<v Speaker 2>was Pat Siris ee r e y.

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<v Speaker 1>She would have said, my grandfather, Pat Siri.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, this is the life that your dad leaves. I

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<v Speaker 2>know he's driving six hours in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>night to get to work, and all he can think

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<v Speaker 2>about is can I name all nineteen guys? This is

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<v Speaker 2>a challenge I put myself through and I got him

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<v Speaker 2>right with a little help from Siri, Pat Serri, Pat Siri.

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<v Speaker 1>What other takeaways you got for us?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jeff, So the Tigers are really good. I told

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<v Speaker 2>you I saw them in the playoffs last year, got

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<v Speaker 2>a really good look at them, and through Sunday they're

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen and ten. Now. Last year, Jeff, they won in

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<v Speaker 2>part because they had Trek Scuble, the best pitcher in

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<v Speaker 2>the American League, and as aj Hinch, the managers say,

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<v Speaker 2>we're Trek Schuble and then we're chaos, like we don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know who's starting next game or the game after that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>now they've got their rotation straight out. Casey Mies, once

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best pitching prospects in baseball, has found

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<v Speaker 2>it after a bunch of injuries. He's four and one

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<v Speaker 2>two point one two er. Jack Flaherty is in the

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<v Speaker 2>rotation so this tremendous, you know, weakness they had after

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<v Speaker 2>their start, after their a starter is no longer a weakness.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like what I see from the Tigers spots

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<v Speaker 2>plus Spencer Torklsen, their big first baseman is having a

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<v Speaker 2>very good year. Remember overall number one pick in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Torklsen, and he struggled terribly and the and the

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger sent him to the minor leagues last year, and

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<v Speaker 2>he fixed his swing, and he came back and hit

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<v Speaker 2>last year and has hit all of this year. And

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<v Speaker 2>the takeaway there is that aj Hinch told me he's

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<v Speaker 2>such a good manager. He's such a great feel with people.

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<v Speaker 2>He told me he called Spencer Torkelsen every day during

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<v Speaker 2>his minor league stay last year just to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>to see how he's doing and make sure, Look, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a part of our team. We just got to get

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<v Speaker 2>you straight out.

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<v Speaker 1>Just looking out for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that tell you something about the manager? And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a player and your guy calls you every day,

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<v Speaker 2>do you not think I gotta do my best for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you got to think too, Hey, this is temporary,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me fix out the kinks and get going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great that's a great manager. It's a great boss.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. That goes for any any industry that you're in. Right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>The Yankees, at least for the moment, have changed their

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<v Speaker 2>closer to Luke Weaver, who's great, not good. Great. He

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<v Speaker 2>was tremendous last year when he finally developed his perfect

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<v Speaker 2>change up, which changed the entire arc of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>But Devin Williams is out. Williams is a great pitcher.

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<v Speaker 2>He has the best change up in baseball. Last year

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<v Speaker 2>he gave up three runs in twenty two appearances, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he gave up three runs in back to back

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<v Speaker 2>appearances this year for the Yankees, and they just have

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<v Speaker 2>to give him another role in the bullpen until he

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<v Speaker 2>gets it straightened out. I told you I wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>story on the change up, most important pitch in baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>And if you lose the field for the change up,

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes like an eighty four by all hour fastball,

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<v Speaker 2>and they know it's coming, then that's a BP fastball

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<v Speaker 2>and you're in a lot of trouble. That's what's happened

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<v Speaker 2>to Devin Williams. But it's gonna change. He'll be the

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<v Speaker 2>closer before the season's over, and if Luke Weaver is

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<v Speaker 2>your setup guy, you're in pretty darn good shape. Lastly,

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<v Speaker 2>you talked about the triple play that wasn't a triple play.

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<v Speaker 2>So Saturday in the Nationals game, an amazing three game, well,

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing weekend series met there was a line drive

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<v Speaker 2>hit too, Nathaniel Lowe, the first basemen, two guys on,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody out and it looked like it short hopped him.

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<v Speaker 2>They called it a catch. The runners were running and

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<v Speaker 2>so it really wasn't a triple play. But the umpire's

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<v Speaker 2>upheld the call because there is no replay on balls

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<v Speaker 2>that don't leave the infield, and the Jeff look, we're

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<v Speaker 2>big on pire guys. We're not here to slam anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but why is there not Why are you not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to review a ball that doesn't leave the infield? That

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<v Speaker 2>ball needed to be reviewed, That ball was not caught.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not a triple play, but it was so

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<v Speaker 2>bang bang. That's where replay really comes in Handy, am

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<v Speaker 2>I wrong about this?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're absolutely right. And we've seen this for

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<v Speaker 1>years in the NFL. You know, they're like, well that's

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<v Speaker 1>not reviewable though, and it's like, well, clearly that was

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't a catch or whatever it might be. So

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<v Speaker 1>these rules, I mean, I look at it as that

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<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna have replay, might as well just have

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<v Speaker 1>replay and do it right.

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<v Speaker 2>We might as replay everything except for balls and strikes,

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<v Speaker 2>which we're gonna be doing sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, what do you got for Quirk Gins, These are

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<v Speaker 1>the best parts of the game that we love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So we talked about some of the crazy walkoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>So Friday night and Nationals Park, we just talked about

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<v Speaker 2>what an amazing weekend series that was against the Mets.

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<v Speaker 2>Friday Night. Cj Abrams, who can really run, is on

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<v Speaker 2>first base, three to two count, two outs, ninth inning

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<v Speaker 2>and he's running on a three to two pitch. James

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<v Speaker 2>Wood hits a single up the middle, and cj Abrams

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<v Speaker 2>scores from first base on a walk off single. Now

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<v Speaker 2>does that sound odd to you? Ye?

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<v Speaker 1>Very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm surprised, I asked Frank from the Elias. Last

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<v Speaker 2>time it happened. It was in twenty twenty one. Miguel really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it would be before that. Miguel Cabrera singled

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<v Speaker 2>up the middle or singled and Jonathan Scope scored from

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<v Speaker 2>first base with a walk off single that scored a

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<v Speaker 2>runner from first. So it's been almost five years since

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<v Speaker 2>that happened. I thought it would have been longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, do you. I mean, I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the fine tuning of scoring, but at a certain point, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if he's running on the pitch, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>think about. Maybe maybe the guy who hit the ball

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to risk getting out at second, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to stretch what would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>double into a double and just said I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>say it at first because there's no point of me

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<v Speaker 1>being on second because if it's fresh and no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, Jeff, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>In that situation, the runner getting to second with two

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<v Speaker 2>outs is irrelevant, right, And if you get out at all, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's a fireable offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, now I'm trying to justify. Okay, maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>does make more sense that guys are hitting singles, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The other walk off was Sunday in San Francisco. Elliott

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<v Speaker 2>Ramos of the Giants high score two to two against

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<v Speaker 2>the Rangers. He singles and an infield hit and the

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<v Speaker 2>balls thrown all over the field, and it's what we

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<v Speaker 2>called jeff a little league home run. That he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a single and errors brought him the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>way home, so it goes as a walk off single,

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<v Speaker 2>even though he didn't drive anybody in. But the game

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<v Speaker 2>ended on a single, which is the single that he hit.

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<v Speaker 2>So I asked again Frank from the Elias, when's the

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<v Speaker 2>last time a game ended quite like that? And to

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<v Speaker 2>my astonishment, a game ended like that last year when

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Young of the Rangers had a hit that scored

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<v Speaker 2>a run and then an error ended up scoring him

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<v Speaker 2>the batter runner with the winning run. And Josh Young

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<v Speaker 2>was also a player in that game yesterday as Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>against the Giants, So the last two times that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Young was involved in the plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we got to talk to our friends, a game

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<v Speaker 1>changer of how the moms and dads are scoring that,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're under thirteen, that's a home run, right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that because I think my only career

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<v Speaker 1>triple in little league was an error filled single, really right,

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<v Speaker 1>probably just an error filled error. I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>I reached Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>You were a better player than you gave yourself credit for.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So Brenton Doyle of the Rockies struck out

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<v Speaker 2>four times out of the leadoff spot the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>So that marks the ninth time this year that a

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<v Speaker 2>leadoff hitter has struck out four times or more in

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<v Speaker 2>a game. That's the most ever before the month of May.

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<v Speaker 2>And I keep telling you this, Jeff, because the lead

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<v Speaker 2>opposition has changed so much in baseball, it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>any sense anymore. We put Aaron Judge, we put shohe Otani,

0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.600
<v Speaker 2>we put Kyle Schwarber, we put Austin Wells, We put

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<v Speaker 2>almost anybody in the leadoff spot to get more at bats.

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<v Speaker 2>But the leadoff spot used to be the pixie little

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<v Speaker 2>second baseman who put the ball in play, didn't strike out,

0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.720
<v Speaker 2>could run. Those days are over, and this statistic certainly

0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.000
<v Speaker 2>proves that out. So Austin Wins. We told you the

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<v Speaker 2>other day he was one of that eight to nine

0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.320
<v Speaker 2>group that you drove in fourteen runs in one game.

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<v Speaker 2>So Austin Wins, backup catcher for the Reds, in consecutive games,

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<v Speaker 2>not back to back games, but consecutive games for him,

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<v Speaker 2>had eight hits and nine RBIs and he's like a

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the order hitter, the backup catcher for the Reds.

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<v Speaker 2>So he tied the Reds franchise record for most hits

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<v Speaker 2>and most are in consecutive starts, so you know the

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<v Speaker 2>rich history of the Reds. He tied a record with record.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know who holds those records, but Johnny Bench,

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<v Speaker 2>George Foster, Frank Robinson, all these guys, these great players

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<v Speaker 2>played for the Reds. And now Austin Wins is in

0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:19.760
<v Speaker 2>that group.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a part of some real royalty in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Writer, and we love it all right. Last thing, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>So Saturday night, I got a kick out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mariners beat the Marlins fourteen to nothing. Anytime there's

0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.159
<v Speaker 2>a fourteen to nothing scores, somebody says, oh, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a football game that happened on Friday on Saturday night

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<v Speaker 2>in Seattle. So just take a guess for me, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think there was a fourteen to nothing game

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL last year?

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<v Speaker 1>My guess would be, well, the Browns did play last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can make that joke because I lived in

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland for three years. Three years I lived in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>They won one game.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to eleven Browns home games, oh and eleven

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<v Speaker 1>really yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Jeff, wherever you go winning follows. You went to

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland and the Cabs won. You went to Cleveland and

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<v Speaker 2>the Indians went.

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<v Speaker 1>To the World Series, went to Vegas when the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>Knights went to the Stanley Cup Final and then won

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<v Speaker 1>the Stanley Cup Final. Years later, then I moved to Philly. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the first year I live here in Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>Philly to miracle comeback in twenty twenty two to make

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<v Speaker 1>it to the World Series. Then the Eagles go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. Later a couple of years win the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>So right, didn't someone from Portland, some average some fan

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<v Speaker 2>call you and say, Jeff, can you please move to Portland?

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<v Speaker 2>We need we need some help.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had three different cities friends of mine contact me,

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<v Speaker 1>Portland and Buffalo and Miami. Now I didn't feel as

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<v Speaker 1>bad about Miami. You had all those championships with Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>But Portland and Buffalo could use some Jeff Kirkshond magic

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, well, so, Jeff. The last NFL football game

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<v Speaker 2>that ended fourteen to nothing was in two thousand and eight. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>eight two thousand and eight, and get this, the Bengals

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.840
<v Speaker 2>beat the Browns fourteen to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That is beautiful. That is so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is our quirk gins coming up next here

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<v Speaker 1>shortly on is this a great game? Or what we're

0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:26.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna get that mysterious team tim hoping to redemption, get

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<v Speaker 1>a redemption there for my dad, redemption.

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<v Speaker 2>Irredeemable Jeff. After the Bojacks of the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we're gonna unrelate them because there's nothing we can

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<v Speaker 1>do to win you back. But we've got that. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got an on the state in baseball history.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my intern and my full time job asked

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<v Speaker 1>me a question. That's going to be our kirkhon quandary.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all coming up next on this is a great

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<v Speaker 1>game or what? All right, Dad, let's jump right into.

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<v Speaker 2>On this date in baseball history, right, So, on this

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<v Speaker 2>date in nineteen eighty six, Roger Clemens struck out twenty

0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Seattle Mariners in one game. So he's the first pitcher

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:10.160
<v Speaker 2>ever to strike out twenty in a nine inning game.

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Tom Cheney holds the record with twenty one strikeouts, but

0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 2>that was in extra innings. So Roger Clemens strikes out twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, ten years later he had another twenty

0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:26.119
<v Speaker 2>strikeout games. So he had two twenty strikeout games and

0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 2>they were ten years apart. So if you wonder how

0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:31.840
<v Speaker 2>great Roger Clemens was, all you got to do is

0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:36.159
<v Speaker 2>know that note. So a week later, the Red Sox

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>are in Seattle to face the Mariners again, and he's

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 2>doing a radio interview like the day before his start,

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 2>and the poor guy interviewing him got a little bit

0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 2>confused and said to him, Roger, the last time you

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 2>faced the Mariners, you struck out thirty. So Roger, to

0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:02.080
<v Speaker 2>his eternal credit, very politely said well, actually it was

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.439
<v Speaker 2>only twenty. And the poor radio guy pats him on

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the back and goes, well, maybe thirty the next time,

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 2>do which, like the people, I'm sure the people in

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 2>the broadcast booth said, great recovery there, whereas I think

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Roger had every ride to say, yeah, I'm gonna pitch

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:24.199
<v Speaker 2>ten innings and strike out everyone everywhere everyone. That's so

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 2>that was the last. That was April twenty ninth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty six, and a little closer to home for me,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff on April twenty ninth, nineteen eighty eight. That was

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:39.159
<v Speaker 2>the night that the Orioles won their first game of

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 2>the season. Remember the eighty eight Orioles started out oh

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:45.520
<v Speaker 2>and twenty one. Yeah, and I was the beat writer

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 2>for the Baltimore Sun. I covered every one of those losses.

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.560
<v Speaker 2>And the first game they finally won was a Friday

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 2>night at then Comiski Park. They beat the White Sox

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:01.679
<v Speaker 2>nine to nothing. Mark Williamson and Dave Schmidt combined on

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 2>the shutout and Eddie Murray, hall of Famer, hit a

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.440
<v Speaker 2>home run in the first inning to give them the lead.

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Cal Ripken, hall of Famer, had four hits in that game.

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And it just amazes me. They had two Hall of

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Famers on that team, not their fault, and they lost

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty one consecutive games. They'll never forget being in Frank

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Robinson's office after the game and the phone rang in

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>there and he picked it up and he goes, yes,

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 2>mister President, like he was joking that the President of

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the United States had called him to congratulate him. But

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.400
<v Speaker 2>as you know the storage, you have to be right.

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 2>The President had called him during the winnings the losing

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 2>streak to offer some sort of support to which it's

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 2>a long story which I've told fifty times. I'm not

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 2>going to tell it again. But the President called Frank

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Robinson and said to Frank after the lost number eighteen

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>in a row, Frank, I know what you're going through.

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 2>And Frank said, mister President, you got no idea what

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm going through. Well, that was the night that the

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 2>streak ended, April twenty ninth, nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's on this state in baseball history.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I could kind of surprise you here today.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm a country music morning show host in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>Our show's played in Boston and Las Vegas. And this

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<v Speaker 1>morning my intern walks into my office after the show

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, hey, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a question for you.

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<v Speaker 1>They going, okay, yeah, what can I do to help?

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<v Speaker 1>How can I help you? I'm helping him learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to edit video and do some other stuff. Our intern

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<v Speaker 1>looks at me and he goes, I think one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>men could kill a gorilla. I said, excuse me, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, I'm sorry. I just me and my buddies

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<v Speaker 1>are texting about this, and I think it's ridiculous. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think one hundred men could kill a gorilla. So

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<v Speaker 1>we we sat there and talked about it, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>this is perfect for a Kirchen quandary. One hundred men,

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<v Speaker 1>no weapons, just men against one gorilla. Dad. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think one hundred men and they are allowed to plan before,

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<v Speaker 1>they're allowed to get together, one hundred men and make

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<v Speaker 1>a plan. If if a hundred men can figure out

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<v Speaker 1>anything together, then yeah, they'll do that. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>who wins?

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<v Speaker 2>Where? Where is the where is the fight taking place?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this cage match?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Is it in a cage? Is it a

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<v Speaker 2>jungle or what?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's yeah, it's not just open ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Just all right, all right, it's on a football field.

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<v Speaker 2>Never mind, it's a football field. All right. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the stupidest hypothetical I've ever heard. Can can get a

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<v Speaker 2>man killed? A charging tiger with a chainsaw? Was the

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<v Speaker 2>previous dubbest thing I've ever heard. But I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. I'm gonna say that the hundred men strategically

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<v Speaker 2>could figure out a way to kill them. How much

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<v Speaker 2>is one hundred men weigh?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you say the average let's let's take

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<v Speaker 1>an average weight one hundred and sixty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hundred pounds we need. We need one hundred two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred pounds men.

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<v Speaker 1>So you and Iron we're not in this, okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred pound yeah, I mean that's that's two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds of man, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>If they charge all at the same time, could they knock?

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<v Speaker 2>Could they could? Yes, they could knock them to the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you how do you kill a gorilla? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you hit him in the head?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just I think you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>suffocate him. Just put a hundred men on top of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the first ten men are gonna totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Be dead, but well maybe the first fifty men. But

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<v Speaker 2>then now we're down to oh, now we're down to

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<v Speaker 2>can fifty men kill? All right? I'm gonna say one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred men could somehow, given that their lives are at stake,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred men could figure out how to kill one gorilla.

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<v Speaker 1>It may be the dumbest Kirkhon quandary because it has

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<v Speaker 1>no importance to anything we're talking about, nor does it

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<v Speaker 1>have any theme to it. Usually we theme it out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, could you beat Tiger Woods had one hundred year?

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<v Speaker 2>Usually there's a hook. Jeff there's no there's no hook

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<v Speaker 2>for a curiate intern. Now, speaking of the stupidest Jeb, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you the stupidest team, Tim of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. I did this in hopes of redemption, as

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you said, for leaving Bo Jackson off the All UH

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>baseball football team. Okay, so I'm just going to start

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<v Speaker 2>to read this, and I want you to tell me

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<v Speaker 2>when you understand where I'm going with this. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember my clue? And it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Big I got your clue. You don't need to give

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<v Speaker 1>me any more clues.

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<v Speaker 2>First basement is Vinnie Pascotino. The second basement.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the players have all of the vowels.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you cheated. You looked at you dare

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<v Speaker 2>you did?

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<v Speaker 1>Dad? You are the least subtle at clues. What is what?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? All right? You told me about Hano was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in it, so I know our thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought up to you last week that olmar Viscal

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<v Speaker 1>also is he the shortstop? So I mean, listen, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I wish I could have let you just

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<v Speaker 1>go through, and you should go through your team.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>I will let you do it, but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>prove to you one that your your clues subtlety, as

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<v Speaker 1>subtle as a sledgehammer.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad. But all right, I'm sorry that I insulted you, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mean to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I heard the first one, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>what I was looking for, and I Vinnie. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>Vinnie Pascuatino, that was pretty okay. I'm sorry, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>kill v O Varus is the second baseman, marvisal shortstop,

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>and you Haneo Suarez is the third base.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you. I'm only interrupting because

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<v Speaker 1>this is genuinely a pet peeve, or is it not?

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<v Speaker 1>When you're listing out players, right, who plays first? Second?

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<v Speaker 2>There's you could go shortstop, then third. Well, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>third thing. What I'm saying, third shortstop because if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do three, four, five, six the third base.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do it by the scorer's book right exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, or or the position? Do you if

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't have a preference either way. I'm just genuinely asking.

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<v Speaker 2>I usually go I usually go third basement first and

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<v Speaker 2>then the shortstop, but a lot of times I switch around.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a correct answer. Okay, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just Jeff, you're starting to think like I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to commit a starting to really worry me.

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to commit a crime. Like when Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Simon reached out to me and said, I said, the MLB,

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean pretty much he deleted my number after.

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<v Speaker 2>That, The NFL, the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>It all makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's MLB, not them, the big League. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>big League, like the Major League Baseball. Okay, outfield moist

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 2>is salou.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a good one.

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Jack Fournier, who led the Major led his league in

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<v Speaker 2>home runs. He's the only guy to lead his league

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 2>in home runs with all the vowels in his last

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>name or in both names. So if if Janio Suarez does,

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>he'll become the second one Carlos Quinton most home runs

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<v Speaker 2>ever by someone whose last name begins with a Q.

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<v Speaker 2>And our catcher. I had to look this one up.

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<v Speaker 2>Julio Moscaro, which he played in the last twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>but I frankly don't remember him. Played for Toronto very

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 2>very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you even start when you need to cull? Look?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you type in?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Well? I did this yesterday and I just typed

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<v Speaker 2>in in my Encyclopedia online q U. There were one

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy seven players q U, so because you

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>is usually the hardest one, so I didn't go through

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>all the names, but I started with qu and this

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>was the list I came up with. And my two pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know you're not allowed to use the same

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>name twice because it's cheating, but we have two pictures

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>with the same Nelson and Ed Figueroa. Is what is

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the significance of Figueroa?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. Help me here.

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<v Speaker 2>It has all of them right, Oh yeah, in the

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>in the last name right, yeah, now, I'm sure. I'm sure. David. First,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna call us and tell us about other

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 2>guys who have all the vowels in their last name.

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>But I know that Ed and Nelson Figueroa have all

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 2>the vowels in their last name. And that's why they're

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 2>the two pictures on our team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic. That's our team. Tim redemption round, Dad, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say I'm proud of you.

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm still like, I'm still hurting inside from bo Jackson.

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we had the largest amount of unsubscribers,

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just kidding. Don't don't worry.

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>We laugh and we learn on the show, and I

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 2>learned a lesson. Don't don't just get to three outfielders

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 2>of move on.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Move on, make sure we're not missing anybody. Hey, So

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow the podcast will feature an interview with Steve Sparks.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you right now, I personally, if

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you're like me, I didn't know much about Steve Sparks

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>right new his former major leaguer, spent some time in

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the miners. Now he's a broadcaster for the Astros. That's

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>pretty much it. So when you bring in a heavy

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>hitter like a Coward Ken Jr. Or Johnny Bench right,

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I get nervous, I get excited, right and we know

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>more or less what to expect from that person. Steve

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Sparks completely blew me away.

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<v Speaker 2>We laughed, we cried.

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>It was such a fun time, and he taught us

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of things. He did, he did. I cannot

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>recommend enough. Don't look at the feed tomorrow and think, oh,

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not familiar with him. I haven't heard of him.

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Just listen, I promise you you will be entertained the

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>entire time.

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeh. When I talk to young students about becoming a

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 2>journalist broadcaster and they say what should I be looking for?

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I tell them all, just be curious, keep your eyes open,

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>keep your ears open. That's what Steve Sparks does as

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>well as certainly any former player that I've ever seen.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>And he's right on the top of the list of

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 2>people who think outside the box on stuff. And he'

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>said at the edge of our interview, he said, I'm

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 2>hoping to become a seamhead, and I'm thinking hoping to

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 2>become a seam ed. You're one of the captains of

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the All Seamed team already, and you're a former player.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 2>That's the separator for Steve spart not to mention that he.

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Is a member of the family. I mean he listened.

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>The amount of recall he had for episodes this or

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>last season was unbelievable, which is so flattering.

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Dad.

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>That's something our guests do not need to listen. We

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>don't need, you know. Gosh, it's like trying to even

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>handcuff your wife, my mom to listen to one episode

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>is difficult. But that was a really cool moment, right

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and when I saw him in Minneapolis earlier this year

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>for radio game.

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 2>We came up to be it just said poor Popa

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 2>and I went, oh my gosh, Steve, you've been watching

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 2>way too much.

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>You're part of the family, and so are you. We

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>love doing this show.

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 2>We do it for you.

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for listening,

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and as always, thank you so much for being a

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>part of our family.