1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I am Jeff Kirkshon, Dad, A 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: player hit four home runs in one game. We're gonna 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: get into that. It's been so crazy. A triple play 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: that wasn't really a triple. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Play, right, and we had a couple of wild walk 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: offs in a couple of series. It was a bizarre weekend, 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Jet But I'm telling you every weekend of this season, 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: every week of this season, has been totally bizarre to me. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: This is the jumping off point of the twenty twenty 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: five season. It has made absolutely no sense, and last 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: weekend especially made no sense, which is again, Jem, this 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: is why we do this show. This is why we 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: cover baseball for a living, so we can slap our 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: forehead and go, how did that happen? I've done it 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: a hundred times this season, already a bunch of times 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: this weekend. 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: So before we dive into the weekend, in the take ways, Dad, 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: we we screwed the pooch. 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: Oh boy, ever, we have to take I'll take full 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: blame for all of these. 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Go ahead said, we almost got canceled, and here's why. 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: Last week on the show. We had mel Kiper the 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: week of the NFL draft, right, and so we kind 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: of did a little bit of a football theme here 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: in the football offseason. And and Dad, you came up 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: with a team Tim that involved the All Football Baseball Team. 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: So these are the best players to play both sports. 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: And well, we're just gonna say we left out the 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: maybe the greatest two sport athletes. 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: Of all time, right right, we left boj I left 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: Bo Jackson off the All Football Baseball team when he 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: is clearly the greatest combination of baseball and football that 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 2: has ever played. I'm not sure how I did this, Jeff, 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: but I got to the album fielders, and I've got 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: Deonce Sanders and Brian Jordan and Jim Thorpe, and I 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: thought Kirk Gibson, so I thought, well, I got enough outfielders. 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: He just moved on, and I just moved on because 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: I once you get three or four, you just say, right, 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: that's enough. And I left off Bo Jackson. So we 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: got a call from a very nice caller like, did 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: Tim have a senior moment? Yes, Tim, at age sixty eight, 43 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: has senior moments more often than he should. This is 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: the worst one I've ever had, and I do these 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: lists every week, and I'm not apologizing to anyone. These 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: are pointless lists. They don't mean anything. However, this one 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: one meant something and I got it completely wrong. The 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: only other guy who's really called in to say, how 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: could you leave this guy off? Was I left on 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: the All Eclipse Team? I left Moonlight Graham off the 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: All Eclipse Team. And a guy wrote tweeted to me, 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: and he's right, how would you leave Moonlight Graham off 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 2: the All Eclipsed team? He's right? Only the guy who 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: wrote it about Bo Jackson was totally right. All I 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: could say is I'm sorry, I'm sixty eight at a 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: terrible mistake was terrible, omission was made. 57 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: It's okay, Do you feel better now? 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it would be like leaving Seth Beer off the 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: All Saint Patrick Steve. Thank god I got him right. 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: Right, So we're glad that we could come on. It 61 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: was frustrating that it was on a Thursday show and 62 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: we didn't have until Tuesdays. I almost had our PR 63 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: people on it as a nightmare. Jeff, look, I am 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: laughing right now. But when you called to tell me, 65 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: did we leave Bo Jackson? 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: Off. I am not exaggerating, no sympathy required, but I 67 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: had a sleepless night thinking how could I have forgotten 68 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: the number one guy on the list? I would be 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: like leaving Babe Ruth off the all time baseball player list. 70 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: And can I just say, and this speaks volumes to 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: the people who listen to this show, the members of 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: our family, as we call it. Right, nobody messaged in 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: and said how many are are you? That's what social 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: media would do. Now, let it be known. I purposely 75 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: did not put that list on social media as to 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: save my dad's career. 77 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: Here. 78 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: However, everybody who had messaged in was super polite and 79 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: super cool about it, and we're glad that you're listening 80 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: and paying attention that much. 81 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I'm worried that they're really paying attention this much, 82 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: because if I make another mistake, they're going to point 83 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: it out. That was awful and I'm sorry, and it's 84 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: not gonna happen again. 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: We have another team, tim Dad. Hopefully you'll redeem yourself today. 86 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: And this one's a surprise even for you, Joe. So 87 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to spring this on you at the end 88 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: of the episode, and I'm going to tell you that 89 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: eu Haanios Tuarez has something to do with it. 90 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I mean, let's go right to the 91 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: takeaway is great transition, dadus. 92 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: So Euhanio Suarez hit four home runs in a game 93 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: the other night. So he's the nineteenth player in Major 94 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: league history to hit four home runs in one game. 95 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: Keep in mind that Gary Sheffield, David or ti He's 96 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: Raphael Palmarrow, all five hundred home run hitters never hit 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: three in a game. This is the third three plus 98 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: home run game of Suarez's career and his first, of course, 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: four homer game. The last guy to hit four homers 100 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: in a game was JD. Martinez, and he was also 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: a member of the Diamondbacks, So the last two players 102 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 2: who did this were members of the Diamondbacks. So Tory Leavello, 103 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: the manager of the Diamondbacks, is the only manager to 104 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: manage two players who hit four home runs in one game. 105 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: Think about that for a second. So before JD. Martinez, 106 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: the last guy to hit four homers in a game 107 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: was Scooter Janette, who, by the way, he hit eighty 108 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: seven homers in his career, but he hit four in 109 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: one game and one of his teammates on the Reds 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: that year was Uhanio Nel Juarez. So, as I told you, Jeff, 111 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: I listened to this in higher game driving from home 112 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: to Bristol to do baseball tonight, six hours in the car, 113 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: listen to every pitch. Darren O'Day was doing the color 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: on the radio for the Braves broadcast in a four 115 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: homer game. He's great, by the way, Jeff, not good. 116 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: He's great, and he's just started his broadcasting career. He 117 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: was fantastic. But I didn't know this. The last guy 118 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: before Scooter Janetta hit four homers in a game was 119 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: Josh Hamilton. So after Suarez hit his fourth, Darren O'Day says, oh, 120 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: by the way, I gave up Josh Hamilton's fourth home 121 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: run of the game that night in Baltimore Way, How 122 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: great is that? So here I'm driving up thinking like 123 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: I've learned like a hundred things tonight, but I've forgotten 124 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: that Darren O'Day had given up number four to Josh Hamilton. 125 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: And now Darren O'Day is broadcasting a game in which 126 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: Johanio Suarez hit his fourth, which is just incredible. 127 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: Another wrinkle in this whole four homer takes right. 128 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: There are so many wrinkles, so that homer gave him 129 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: ten homers for the year he has he had nineteen hits, 130 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: so over half of his hits or home runs. And 131 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: also he's the third player to hit four homers in 132 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: a game, yet his team lost ed Delahanty in the 133 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds, and Bob Horner hit four homers in a 134 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: game in which their team lost. And I hope this 135 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: means something, Jeff. But on the way to Bristol, it's 136 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: a six hour ride and I have nothing else to do. 137 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't listen to music, but I listened to every 138 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: game on the radio. Serius XM Radio's the greatest invention 139 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: of my lifetime. But I'm thinking I'm driving them all 140 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: by myself, of course, and I'm thinking I got to 141 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: be able to name the nineteen guys off the top 142 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: of my head who hit four home runs in a game. 143 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: So I do pretty darn well because I used to 144 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: have this list memorize. I have him tried it in 145 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: a long time. But I got to eighteen and I 146 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: couldn't come up with the nineteenth guy. So I considered, 147 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: all right, I might have to cheat on this, but 148 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: I got an hour left to go before Bristol, So 149 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: I got one more hour, and I say, I'm not 150 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: getting out of this car till I get this right. So, Jeff, 151 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: if you're in a car and you want to cheat 152 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: on a question or get information on a question, how 153 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: do you do that in your car? Who do you call? 154 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean you call the Elias Fortunes? 155 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: No? No, in your car? Like is there a button 156 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: in your car that you can call to answer a question? Oh? 157 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do Siri? Right, you ask siria question? 158 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: So get this. I don't even know how to use sirious. 159 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: Because well that was immediately where my head went. But 160 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: I was assuming you had no clue how to do it. 161 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how to do it. But get this, Jeff. 162 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: And I find this to be the stupidest thing, maybe 163 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: of my entire life. The nineteenth guy, the last guy 164 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: I got was in nineteen forty eight, Pat Siri No 165 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: hit four homers in a game? 166 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: How about that? If I knew how to. 167 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: Call Siri, I might have. But that's when I figured 168 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: out who the nineteenth guy was. Was thinking about calling Siri, 169 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: which I don't know how to do, And the answer 170 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: was Pat Siris ee r e y. 171 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: She would have said, my grandfather, Pat Siri. 172 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: Jeff, this is the life that your dad leaves. I 173 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: know he's driving six hours in the middle of the 174 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: night to get to work, and all he can think 175 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: about is can I name all nineteen guys? This is 176 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: a challenge I put myself through and I got him 177 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: right with a little help from Siri, Pat Serri, Pat Siri. 178 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: What other takeaways you got for us? 179 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Jeff, So the Tigers are really good. I told 180 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: you I saw them in the playoffs last year, got 181 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: a really good look at them, and through Sunday they're 182 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: eighteen and ten. Now. Last year, Jeff, they won in 183 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: part because they had Trek Scuble, the best pitcher in 184 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: the American League, and as aj Hinch, the managers say, 185 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: we're Trek Schuble and then we're chaos, like we don't 186 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: even know who's starting next game or the game after that. Well, 187 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: now they've got their rotation straight out. Casey Mies, once 188 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: one of the best pitching prospects in baseball, has found 189 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: it after a bunch of injuries. He's four and one 190 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: two point one two er. Jack Flaherty is in the 191 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: rotation so this tremendous, you know, weakness they had after 192 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: their start, after their a starter is no longer a weakness. 193 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: I really like what I see from the Tigers spots 194 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: plus Spencer Torklsen, their big first baseman is having a 195 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: very good year. Remember overall number one pick in the country, 196 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: Spencer Torklsen, and he struggled terribly and the and the 197 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: Tiger sent him to the minor leagues last year, and 198 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: he fixed his swing, and he came back and hit 199 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: last year and has hit all of this year. And 200 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: the takeaway there is that aj Hinch told me he's 201 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: such a good manager. He's such a great feel with people. 202 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: He told me he called Spencer Torkelsen every day during 203 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: his minor league stay last year just to make sure 204 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: to see how he's doing and make sure, Look, you're 205 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: a part of our team. We just got to get 206 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: you straight out. 207 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: Just looking out for you. 208 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: Does that tell you something about the manager? And if 209 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: you're a player and your guy calls you every day, 210 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: do you not think I gotta do my best for him. 211 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you got to think too, Hey, this is temporary, 212 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: so let me fix out the kinks and get going. 213 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great manager. It's a great boss. 214 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: Of course. That goes for any any industry that you're in. Right, Okay, 215 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: The Yankees, at least for the moment, have changed their 216 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: closer to Luke Weaver, who's great, not good. Great. He 217 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: was tremendous last year when he finally developed his perfect 218 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: change up, which changed the entire arc of his career. 219 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: But Devin Williams is out. Williams is a great pitcher. 220 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: He has the best change up in baseball. Last year 221 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: he gave up three runs in twenty two appearances, and 222 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: then he gave up three runs in back to back 223 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: appearances this year for the Yankees, and they just have 224 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: to give him another role in the bullpen until he 225 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: gets it straightened out. I told you I wrote a 226 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: story on the change up, most important pitch in baseball, 227 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: And if you lose the field for the change up, 228 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: it becomes like an eighty four by all hour fastball, 229 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: and they know it's coming, then that's a BP fastball 230 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: and you're in a lot of trouble. That's what's happened 231 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: to Devin Williams. But it's gonna change. He'll be the 232 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: closer before the season's over, and if Luke Weaver is 233 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: your setup guy, you're in pretty darn good shape. Lastly, 234 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: you talked about the triple play that wasn't a triple play. 235 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: So Saturday in the Nationals game, an amazing three game, well, 236 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: an amazing weekend series met there was a line drive 237 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: hit too, Nathaniel Lowe, the first basemen, two guys on, 238 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: nobody out and it looked like it short hopped him. 239 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: They called it a catch. The runners were running and 240 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: so it really wasn't a triple play. But the umpire's 241 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 2: upheld the call because there is no replay on balls 242 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: that don't leave the infield, and the Jeff look, we're 243 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: big on pire guys. We're not here to slam anybody, 244 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: but why is there not Why are you not allowed 245 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: to review a ball that doesn't leave the infield? That 246 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: ball needed to be reviewed, That ball was not caught. 247 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: That is not a triple play, but it was so 248 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: bang bang. That's where replay really comes in Handy, am 249 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: I wrong about this? 250 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. And we've seen this for 251 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: years in the NFL. You know, they're like, well that's 252 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: not reviewable though, and it's like, well, clearly that was 253 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: there wasn't a catch or whatever it might be. So 254 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: these rules, I mean, I look at it as that 255 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: if we're gonna have replay, might as well just have 256 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: replay and do it right. 257 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: We might as replay everything except for balls and strikes, 258 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: which we're gonna be doing sooner rather than later. 259 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: Yes, what do you got for Quirk Gins, These are 260 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: the best parts of the game that we love. 261 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So we talked about some of the crazy walkoffs. 262 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: So Friday night and Nationals Park, we just talked about 263 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: what an amazing weekend series that was against the Mets. 264 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: Friday Night. Cj Abrams, who can really run, is on 265 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: first base, three to two count, two outs, ninth inning 266 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: and he's running on a three to two pitch. James 267 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: Wood hits a single up the middle, and cj Abrams 268 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: scores from first base on a walk off single. Now 269 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: does that sound odd to you? Ye? 270 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: Very strange. 271 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: Well, I'm surprised, I asked Frank from the Elias. Last 272 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: time it happened. It was in twenty twenty one. Miguel really, yeah, 273 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: I thought it would be before that. Miguel Cabrera singled 274 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: up the middle or singled and Jonathan Scope scored from 275 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: first base with a walk off single that scored a 276 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: runner from first. So it's been almost five years since 277 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: that happened. I thought it would have been longer. 278 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Now, do you. I mean, I don't want to get 279 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: into the fine tuning of scoring, but at a certain point, well, 280 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: maybe if he's running on the pitch, I'm trying to 281 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: think about. Maybe maybe the guy who hit the ball 282 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to risk getting out at second, right, so 283 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: he didn't want to stretch what would have been a 284 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: double into a double and just said I'm going to 285 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: say it at first because there's no point of me 286 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: being on second because if it's fresh and no, that's 287 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: part of it, Jeff, you know what I mean. 288 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: In that situation, the runner getting to second with two 289 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: outs is irrelevant, right, And if you get out at all, yeah, 290 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: that's that's a fireable offense. 291 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean, now I'm trying to justify. Okay, maybe it 292 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: does make more sense that guys are hitting singles, Okay. 293 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: The other walk off was Sunday in San Francisco. Elliott 294 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: Ramos of the Giants high score two to two against 295 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: the Rangers. He singles and an infield hit and the 296 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: balls thrown all over the field, and it's what we 297 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: called jeff a little league home run. That he's got 298 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: a single and errors brought him the rest of the 299 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: way home, so it goes as a walk off single, 300 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: even though he didn't drive anybody in. But the game 301 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: ended on a single, which is the single that he hit. 302 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: So I asked again Frank from the Elias, when's the 303 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: last time a game ended quite like that? And to 304 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: my astonishment, a game ended like that last year when 305 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: Josh Young of the Rangers had a hit that scored 306 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: a run and then an error ended up scoring him 307 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: the batter runner with the winning run. And Josh Young 308 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: was also a player in that game yesterday as Sunday 309 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: against the Giants, So the last two times that happened, 310 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: Josh Young was involved in the plays. 311 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we got to talk to our friends, a game 312 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: changer of how the moms and dads are scoring that, 313 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: because if you're under thirteen, that's a home run, right? 314 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: And I say that because I think my only career 315 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: triple in little league was an error filled single, really right, 316 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: probably just an error filled error. I don't even think 317 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: I reached Jeff. 318 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: You were a better player than you gave yourself credit for. 319 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: All right, So Brenton Doyle of the Rockies struck out 320 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: four times out of the leadoff spot the other day. 321 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: So that marks the ninth time this year that a 322 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: leadoff hitter has struck out four times or more in 323 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: a game. That's the most ever before the month of May. 324 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: And I keep telling you this, Jeff, because the lead 325 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: opposition has changed so much in baseball, it doesn't make 326 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: any sense anymore. We put Aaron Judge, we put shohe Otani, 327 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: we put Kyle Schwarber, we put Austin Wells, We put 328 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: almost anybody in the leadoff spot to get more at bats. 329 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: But the leadoff spot used to be the pixie little 330 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: second baseman who put the ball in play, didn't strike out, 331 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: could run. Those days are over, and this statistic certainly 332 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: proves that out. So Austin Wins. We told you the 333 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: other day he was one of that eight to nine 334 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: group that you drove in fourteen runs in one game. 335 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: So Austin Wins, backup catcher for the Reds, in consecutive games, 336 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: not back to back games, but consecutive games for him, 337 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: had eight hits and nine RBIs and he's like a 338 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: bottom of the order hitter, the backup catcher for the Reds. 339 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: So he tied the Reds franchise record for most hits 340 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: and most are in consecutive starts, so you know the 341 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: rich history of the Reds. He tied a record with record. 342 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: I don't even know who holds those records, but Johnny Bench, 343 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: George Foster, Frank Robinson, all these guys, these great players 344 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: played for the Reds. And now Austin Wins is in 345 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: that group. 346 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: He is a part of some real royalty in Cincinnati. 347 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: Writer, and we love it all right. Last thing, Jeff, 348 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: So Saturday night, I got a kick out of this. 349 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: The Mariners beat the Marlins fourteen to nothing. Anytime there's 350 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: a fourteen to nothing scores, somebody says, oh, there was 351 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: a football game that happened on Friday on Saturday night 352 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: in Seattle. So just take a guess for me, Jeff, 353 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: do you think there was a fourteen to nothing game 354 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: in the NFL last year? 355 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: My guess would be, well, the Browns did play last year. 356 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: And I can make that joke because I lived in 357 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland for three years. Three years I lived in Cleveland. 358 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: They won one game. 359 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: Really yeah. 360 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I went to eleven Browns home games, oh and eleven 361 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: really yeah. 362 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: So, Jeff, wherever you go winning follows. You went to 363 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: Cleveland and the Cabs won. You went to Cleveland and 364 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: the Indians went. 365 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: To the World Series, went to Vegas when the Golden 366 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: Knights went to the Stanley Cup Final and then won 367 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Final. Years later, then I moved to Philly. Right, 368 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: and in the first year I live here in Philly, 369 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: Philly to miracle comeback in twenty twenty two to make 370 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: it to the World Series. Then the Eagles go to 371 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Later a couple of years win the 372 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 373 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: So right, didn't someone from Portland, some average some fan 374 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: call you and say, Jeff, can you please move to Portland? 375 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: We need we need some help. 376 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: I've had three different cities friends of mine contact me, 377 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: Portland and Buffalo and Miami. Now I didn't feel as 378 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: bad about Miami. You had all those championships with Lebron 379 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: But Portland and Buffalo could use some Jeff Kirkshond magic 380 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: on the radio. 381 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: I guess, well, so, Jeff. The last NFL football game 382 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: that ended fourteen to nothing was in two thousand and eight. Wow, 383 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: eight two thousand and eight, and get this, the Bengals 384 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: beat the Browns fourteen to nothing. 385 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: Wow. That is beautiful. That is so beautiful. 386 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: It's so good. 387 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: And that is our quirk gins coming up next here 388 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: shortly on is this a great game? Or what we're 389 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna get that mysterious team tim hoping to redemption, get 390 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: a redemption there for my dad, redemption. 391 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: Irredeemable Jeff. After the Bojacks of the state. 392 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Then we're gonna unrelate them because there's nothing we can 393 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: do to win you back. But we've got that. We've 394 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: got an on the state in baseball history. 395 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: Dad. 396 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: And then my intern and my full time job asked 397 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: me a question. That's going to be our kirkhon quandary. 398 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: That's all coming up next on this is a great 399 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: game or what? All right, Dad, let's jump right into. 400 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: On this date in baseball history, right, So, on this 401 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 2: date in nineteen eighty six, Roger Clemens struck out twenty 402 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners in one game. So he's the first pitcher 403 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: ever to strike out twenty in a nine inning game. 404 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: Tom Cheney holds the record with twenty one strikeouts, but 405 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: that was in extra innings. So Roger Clemens strikes out twenty. 406 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: By the way, ten years later he had another twenty 407 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: strikeout games. So he had two twenty strikeout games and 408 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: they were ten years apart. So if you wonder how 409 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: great Roger Clemens was, all you got to do is 410 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: know that note. So a week later, the Red Sox 411 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: are in Seattle to face the Mariners again, and he's 412 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: doing a radio interview like the day before his start, 413 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: and the poor guy interviewing him got a little bit 414 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: confused and said to him, Roger, the last time you 415 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: faced the Mariners, you struck out thirty. So Roger, to 416 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: his eternal credit, very politely said well, actually it was 417 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 2: only twenty. And the poor radio guy pats him on 418 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: the back and goes, well, maybe thirty the next time, 419 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: do which, like the people, I'm sure the people in 420 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: the broadcast booth said, great recovery there, whereas I think 421 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: Roger had every ride to say, yeah, I'm gonna pitch 422 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 2: ten innings and strike out everyone everywhere everyone. That's so 423 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: that was the last. That was April twenty ninth, nineteen 424 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: eighty six, and a little closer to home for me, 425 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: Jeff on April twenty ninth, nineteen eighty eight. That was 426 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 2: the night that the Orioles won their first game of 427 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: the season. Remember the eighty eight Orioles started out oh 428 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: and twenty one. Yeah, and I was the beat writer 429 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: for the Baltimore Sun. I covered every one of those losses. 430 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: And the first game they finally won was a Friday 431 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: night at then Comiski Park. They beat the White Sox 432 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: nine to nothing. Mark Williamson and Dave Schmidt combined on 433 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: the shutout and Eddie Murray, hall of Famer, hit a 434 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: home run in the first inning to give them the lead. 435 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: Cal Ripken, hall of Famer, had four hits in that game. 436 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: And it just amazes me. They had two Hall of 437 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: Famers on that team, not their fault, and they lost 438 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: twenty one consecutive games. They'll never forget being in Frank 439 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: Robinson's office after the game and the phone rang in 440 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: there and he picked it up and he goes, yes, 441 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: mister President, like he was joking that the President of 442 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: the United States had called him to congratulate him. But 443 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: as you know the storage, you have to be right. 444 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: The President had called him during the winnings the losing 445 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 2: streak to offer some sort of support to which it's 446 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: a long story which I've told fifty times. I'm not 447 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: going to tell it again. But the President called Frank 448 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: Robinson and said to Frank after the lost number eighteen 449 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: in a row, Frank, I know what you're going through. 450 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: And Frank said, mister President, you got no idea what 451 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 2: I'm going through. Well, that was the night that the 452 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: streak ended, April twenty ninth, nineteen eighty eight. 453 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: That's on this state in baseball history. 454 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: Dad. 455 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: I thought I could kind of surprise you here today. 456 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: So I'm a country music morning show host in Philadelphia. 457 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: Our show's played in Boston and Las Vegas. And this 458 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: morning my intern walks into my office after the show 459 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: and he says, hey, I. 460 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: Got a question for you. 461 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: They going, okay, yeah, what can I do to help? 462 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: How can I help you? I'm helping him learn how 463 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: to edit video and do some other stuff. Our intern 464 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: looks at me and he goes, I think one hundred 465 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: men could kill a gorilla. I said, excuse me, and 466 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: he goes, I'm sorry. I just me and my buddies 467 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: are texting about this, and I think it's ridiculous. I 468 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: don't think one hundred men could kill a gorilla. So 469 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: we we sat there and talked about it, and I thought, 470 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: this is perfect for a Kirchen quandary. One hundred men, 471 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: no weapons, just men against one gorilla. Dad. Do you 472 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: think one hundred men and they are allowed to plan before, 473 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: they're allowed to get together, one hundred men and make 474 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: a plan. If if a hundred men can figure out 475 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: anything together, then yeah, they'll do that. Do you think 476 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: who wins? 477 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: Where? Where is the where is the fight taking place? 478 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: Is this cage match? 479 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it in a cage? Is it a 480 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: jungle or what? 481 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, it's not just open ground. 482 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: Just all right, all right, it's on a football field. 483 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: Never mind, it's a football field. All right. This is 484 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: the stupidest hypothetical I've ever heard. Can can get a 485 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: man killed? A charging tiger with a chainsaw? Was the 486 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: previous dubbest thing I've ever heard. But I love that. 487 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 488 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: All right. I'm gonna say that the hundred men strategically 489 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 2: could figure out a way to kill them. How much 490 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 2: is one hundred men weigh? 491 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if you say the average let's let's take 492 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: an average weight one hundred and sixty five. 493 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: Two hundred pounds we need. We need one hundred two 494 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: hundred pounds men. 495 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: So you and Iron we're not in this, okay, So 496 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: two hundred pound yeah, I mean that's that's two hundred 497 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: thousand pounds of man, all right? 498 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: If they charge all at the same time, could they knock? 499 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: Could they could? Yes, they could knock them to the ground. 500 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: How do you how do you kill a gorilla? Though? 501 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: Do you hit him in the head? 502 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: I think it's just I think you just have to 503 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: suffocate him. Just put a hundred men on top of them. 504 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the first ten men are gonna totally. 505 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 2: Be dead, but well maybe the first fifty men. But 506 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: then now we're down to oh, now we're down to 507 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: can fifty men kill? All right? I'm gonna say one 508 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: hundred men could somehow, given that their lives are at stake, 509 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: one hundred men could figure out how to kill one gorilla. 510 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: It may be the dumbest Kirkhon quandary because it has 511 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: no importance to anything we're talking about, nor does it 512 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: have any theme to it. Usually we theme it out, 513 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, could you beat Tiger Woods had one hundred year? 514 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: Usually there's a hook. Jeff there's no there's no hook 515 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 2: for a curiate intern. Now, speaking of the stupidest Jeb, Now, 516 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you the stupidest team, Tim of 517 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: all time. I did this in hopes of redemption, as 518 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: you said, for leaving Bo Jackson off the All UH 519 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: baseball football team. Okay, so I'm just going to start 520 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: to read this, and I want you to tell me 521 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: when you understand where I'm going with this. Do you 522 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: remember my clue? And it's a. 523 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: Big I got your clue. You don't need to give 524 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: me any more clues. 525 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: First basement is Vinnie Pascotino. The second basement. 526 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: All of the players have all of the vowels. 527 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you cheated. You looked at you dare 528 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: you did? 529 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: Dad? You are the least subtle at clues. What is what? 530 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: All right? All right? You told me about Hano was 531 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: going to be in it, so I know our thing. 532 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: I brought up to you last week that olmar Viscal 533 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: also is he the shortstop? So I mean, listen, Dad, 534 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: I didn't I wish I could have let you just 535 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: go through, and you should go through your team. 536 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: Tim. 537 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: I will let you do it, but I wanted to 538 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: prove to you one that your your clues subtlety, as 539 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: subtle as a sledgehammer. 540 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: Dad. But all right, I'm sorry that I insulted you, Jeff, 541 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: I didn't mean to do that. 542 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: As soon as I heard the first one, I knew 543 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: what I was looking for, and I Vinnie. I was like, 544 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: and then when you hit me. 545 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: Vinnie Pascuatino, that was pretty okay. I'm sorry, all right, 546 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: kill v O Varus is the second baseman, marvisal shortstop, 547 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: and you Haneo Suarez is the third base. 548 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: I have a question for you. I'm only interrupting because 549 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: this is genuinely a pet peeve, or is it not? 550 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: When you're listing out players, right, who plays first? Second? 551 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: There's you could go shortstop, then third. Well, it's the 552 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: third thing. What I'm saying, third shortstop because if you're 553 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: going to do three, four, five, six the third base. 554 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: Do you do it by the scorer's book right exactly 555 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: what you're saying, or or the position? Do you if 556 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: you don't have a preference either way. I'm just genuinely asking. 557 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: I usually go I usually go third basement first and 558 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: then the shortstop, but a lot of times I switch around. 559 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a correct answer. Okay, but I 560 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: just Jeff, you're starting to think like I didn't want 561 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: to commit a starting to really worry me. 562 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: I didn't want to commit a crime. Like when Mark 563 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: Simon reached out to me and said, I said, the MLB, 564 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean pretty much he deleted my number after. 565 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: That, The NFL, the NBA. 566 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: It all makes sense. 567 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: And it's MLB, not them, the big League. It's the 568 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: big League, like the Major League Baseball. Okay, outfield moist 569 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: is salou. 570 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one. 571 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: Jack Fournier, who led the Major led his league in 572 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: home runs. He's the only guy to lead his league 573 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: in home runs with all the vowels in his last 574 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: name or in both names. So if if Janio Suarez does, 575 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: he'll become the second one Carlos Quinton most home runs 576 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: ever by someone whose last name begins with a Q. 577 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: And our catcher. I had to look this one up. 578 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: Julio Moscaro, which he played in the last twenty years, 579 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: but I frankly don't remember him. Played for Toronto very 580 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: very well. 581 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: Where do you even start when you need to cull? Look? 582 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: What do you type in? 583 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: Right? Well? I did this yesterday and I just typed 584 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: in in my Encyclopedia online q U. There were one 585 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy seven players q U, so because you 586 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: is usually the hardest one, so I didn't go through 587 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: all the names, but I started with qu and this 588 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: was the list I came up with. And my two pictures. 589 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: And you know you're not allowed to use the same 590 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: name twice because it's cheating, but we have two pictures 591 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: with the same Nelson and Ed Figueroa. Is what is 592 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: the significance of Figueroa? 593 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Help me here. 594 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: It has all of them right, Oh yeah, in the 595 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: in the last name right, yeah, now, I'm sure. I'm sure. David. First, 596 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: this is gonna call us and tell us about other 597 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: guys who have all the vowels in their last name. 598 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: But I know that Ed and Nelson Figueroa have all 599 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: the vowels in their last name. And that's why they're 600 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: the two pictures on our team. 601 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. That's our team. Tim redemption round, Dad, I 602 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: gotta say I'm proud of you. 603 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm still like, I'm still hurting inside from bo Jackson. 604 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we had the largest amount of unsubscribers, 605 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: and I'm just kidding. Don't don't worry. 606 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: We laugh and we learn on the show, and I 607 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: learned a lesson. Don't don't just get to three outfielders 608 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: of move on. 609 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: Move on, make sure we're not missing anybody. Hey, So 610 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow the podcast will feature an interview with Steve Sparks. 611 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: And let me tell you right now, I personally, if 612 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: you're like me, I didn't know much about Steve Sparks 613 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: right new his former major leaguer, spent some time in 614 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: the miners. Now he's a broadcaster for the Astros. That's 615 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: pretty much it. So when you bring in a heavy 616 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: hitter like a Coward Ken Jr. Or Johnny Bench right, 617 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: I get nervous, I get excited, right and we know 618 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: more or less what to expect from that person. Steve 619 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: Sparks completely blew me away. 620 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: We laughed, we cried. 621 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: It was such a fun time, and he taught us 622 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of things. He did, he did. I cannot 623 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: recommend enough. Don't look at the feed tomorrow and think, oh, 624 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with him. I haven't heard of him. 625 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: I'm not. 626 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Just listen, I promise you you will be entertained the 627 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: entire time. 628 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeh. When I talk to young students about becoming a 629 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: journalist broadcaster and they say what should I be looking for? 630 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: I tell them all, just be curious, keep your eyes open, 631 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: keep your ears open. That's what Steve Sparks does as 632 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: well as certainly any former player that I've ever seen. 633 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: And he's right on the top of the list of 634 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: people who think outside the box on stuff. And he' 635 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: said at the edge of our interview, he said, I'm 636 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: hoping to become a seamhead, and I'm thinking hoping to 637 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: become a seam ed. You're one of the captains of 638 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: the All Seamed team already, and you're a former player. 639 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: That's the separator for Steve spart not to mention that he. 640 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: Is a member of the family. I mean he listened. 641 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: The amount of recall he had for episodes this or 642 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: last season was unbelievable, which is so flattering. 643 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: Dad. 644 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: That's something our guests do not need to listen. We 645 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: don't need, you know. Gosh, it's like trying to even 646 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: handcuff your wife, my mom to listen to one episode 647 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: is difficult. But that was a really cool moment, right 648 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: and when I saw him in Minneapolis earlier this year 649 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: for radio game. 650 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: We came up to be it just said poor Popa 651 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: and I went, oh my gosh, Steve, you've been watching 652 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: way too much. 653 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: You're part of the family, and so are you. We 654 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: love doing this show. 655 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: We do it for you. 656 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for listening, 657 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: and as always, thank you so much for being a 658 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: part of our family.